#💬general-discussion

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leaden flower
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we need a balls update

lean mango
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kinda sucks because the house itself (aside from the shits in it) is designed pretty good as in house design wise

faint wigeon
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that and the fucking gaping windows that the ai blasts u through like john wick

leaden flower
sharp sage
leaden flower
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butwhat is the problem is

lean mango
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"money or the right thing?" mfs when i show them my taser

leaden flower
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"breach & clear"

ai runs to the edge of the window, standing as they get shot

lean mango
sharp sage
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It's impractical

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like windows leading to the kitchen? ARE YOU NUTS?

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This ain't a goddamn Castle!

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On a RANDOM CORRIDOR NO LESS!

faint wigeon
lean mango
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i mean this is the house of amos voll you can't really expect the goon guy to have decent tastes

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the adult film posters in the house is killing me

leaden flower
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what about the dildo trophy

lean mango
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"American Assets" JudgeDredd

faint wigeon
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Atleast have a nice environment to goon in

leaden flower
sharp sage
faint wigeon
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no its not

lean mango
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i mean sick pool and all, minus the goon basement

leaden flower
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yes it is

sharp sage
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You can't just expect people NOT to kill you the second they find the basement

lean mango
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do you guys know that area after you take the stairs to the right when you spawn?

sharp sage
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Yeah?

faint wigeon
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u would honestly live in that slab of glass and marble

lean mango
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yeah what's that area for exactly? chilling?

sharp sage
faint wigeon
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more gooning

lean mango
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the one with the fuckin feet pictures contest

leaden flower
leaden flower
lean mango
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voll besides being a cp enjoyer is into feet 😭

sharp sage
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On his Daughter's birthday

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she's barely 18

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If he wasn't a high value target I would have him executed

faint wigeon
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He’ll get killed in prison lmao

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and inappropriately touched

sharp sage
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I'll be surprised if I ever hear from him again AFTER a month.

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He's killed so many fuckin kids there it's a surprise nobody found him till now

lean mango
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alright chat opinions on valley's ost?

faint wigeon
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putting a serial child predator in prison IS execution

sharp sage
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23 hours in a goddamn cell

faint wigeon
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welp 99% chance he’ll do it himself

sharp sage
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There's NO chance he's getting out

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no bail since assets will be seized

sharp sage
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he'll rot- unless someone's rich enough to pay a guard to have him killed.

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or three.

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maybe a whole shift.

dense python
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meow

fallen sail
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neow

dense python
halcyon oar
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????

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boy wat

mint wraith
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for the life of me, i can't get better than a B on Sinuous.

weak trail
mint wraith
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I'm looking up a guide right now. I wanted to do it blind, but I've already gave it around five to six attempts.

weak trail
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Your collecting all the evidence?

mint wraith
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Yep, you can make the AI collect the guns.

weak trail
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And your restraining suspects after you shoot them?

mint wraith
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All of it.

weak trail
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Odd.

mint wraith
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I thought maybe I wasn't doing it fast enough. I can't safely do it under nine minutes yet.

solid cape
mint wraith
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So I need to get them to surrender!

solid cape
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Yeap

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35 score instead of 5 for kill/incap

mint wraith
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Any advice on how to get Greased Palms S? Highest I've gotten is A+.

fallen sail
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You don't kill anybody

mint wraith
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Bruh.

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Ain't no way I can do that yet.

old current
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equip everyone with non lethal and take the secondary ammo of the bots, than equip two with Shields, Everyone gets heavy body armor, tasers, Pepper spray and Flashbangs and you can have an easy run, Kind of

solid cape
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If you always face suspects they will never shoot you

mint wraith
old current
mint wraith
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Been playing a psychopaths game, lol.

solid cape
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Or you can just bring 2 negotiators, 1 pacifier, 1 armorer, VPL and bunch of cs gas grenades

mint wraith
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What's the radius of the CS Gas grenades?

solid cape
mint wraith
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Thanks for all the help, guys. Learned things I didn't even know about the game.

old current
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no problem

sharp sage
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Managed to three-try Carriers of the Vine

solid cape
sharp sage
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1st try was an A+, second was unfortunately cut short due to a lady with a shotgun in the toilet

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and the 3rd was 19 minutes S-rank

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2 missions to go!

old current
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just remember to command the team intelligently, check the Map layout and send your two teams perfectly to cover a wide area

sharp sage
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I do bring C4 and the right people to intimidate the people

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I rarely split my teams

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And I'm a crackshot with the Beanbag shotgun

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any tips for the hospital?

old current
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same, but sometimes if the layout calls for it i split them up to connect at another point so i can call a small part Secure and than clean the rest up together

sharp sage
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No seriously any tips for the hospital stage?

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Haven't done a mission like this before- or in any other game for that matter

old current
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thats on of the missions i was talking about splitting up and cleaning up one by one, i would suggest to wedge doors you dont neccesery need to enter now and go back to it after cleaning parts of the hospital

sharp sage
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shhhhiiiit...

old current
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thats how i got the S+

sharp sage
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So I gotta re-arrest Qadamah

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the bastard that shot up the Nightclub in Neon Tomb

old current
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yes

sharp sage
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Oh you've got to be shitting me- three floors??

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Oh brother it looks like I gotta get myself some nice music and be prepared to smoke the worries away

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Because the last time I saw this much shit

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it took me hours to finish Greased Palms.

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AND THEN Valley of the Dolls

old current
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yeah it can be tricky but working it slow is the key

sharp sage
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And then I nearly lost my goddamn mind on ELEPHANT.

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I went on that thing like 5 to 6 fucking times to get the S

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first completion was an F

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because apparently 4 to 5 neurotic fucks can outshoot a goddamn SWAT TEAM

old current
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yeah those bots are ruthless XD

sullen tapir
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wsp

normal sinew
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gotta love having 885 ping

sharp sage
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FUCK YES

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I BEAT RELAPSE ON FIRST TRY WITH MY CHARACTER LOOKING LIKE HE NEEDS A FULLBODY CAST

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A+ tho cause I had friendly fire

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nobody died, btw! Got teh bombs too

old current
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nice and now do it without FF

sharp sage
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wait what

old current
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Do It kruzGoblin

sharp sage
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FF??

old current
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friendly fire

sharp sage
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Oh right

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yeah I ended up fucking my second try

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can't believe I have to work through 4 floors total

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Actually.. make that 5.

old current
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you get used to it

sharp sage
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I've been having that lesson beat into me a lot

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Valley of the Dolls and Greased Palms did that pretty well

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had to figure out other ways in here and there

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I kinda became a pretty locked in team player focused on speed since Elephant

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took tips on reddit and such

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I do scoping, my teammates do cover and clean

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GODDAMN IT 3RD TRY FUCKED BY DOOR COLLISON

sharp sage
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FRIENDLY FIRED FLASHBANG AGAIN

old current
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let your teammates flashbang

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if bots flash there is never ff

autumn mural
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I swear to got this map Greased Palms is going to make me change the Rules of Engagement into "Suggestions" of Engagement

sharp sage
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just make sure to pack a lotta flashes

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only way you can stop these guys

autumn mural
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i was screaming at a dude with a pistol to drop it but he hadnt done anything yet so I "couldnt" shoot. mf proceeds to one hit me and end the run

sharp sage
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What were your teammates..

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Cause you'd need negotiator and other members that can help you pacify the enemies

next acorn
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no way I c2 a door that I did not know had a civilian behind it and my teammate domes me

sharp sage
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man NO ONE IS THAT MUCH OF AN IDIOT

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YOU DO THAT WITH SUSPECTS

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NOT CIVVIES!

next acorn
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did not*

hardy canopy
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Probably should not c2 doors without mirroring them, generally speaking

sullen tapir
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a

autumn mural
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if dude is already pointing a gun, is it ok by the ROI to just f him up?

sullen tapir
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,

autumn mural
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DANG IT I SHOULD HAVE SHOOT

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ty lol

sharp sage
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Do with beanbags

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a headshot somehow kills but a bodyshot is a guaranteed stop

autumn mural
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no way they deserve bullets, 7.62* bullets

sharp sage
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S rank? Start praying boy

hardy canopy
# hardy canopy Yes

Like, basically the moment a suspect raises their gun they become free game

autumn mural
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idk why but the most I got so far is A+

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and I did a bunch of maps solo without a single suspect down with the beanbag

sharp sage
autumn mural
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nope

sharp sage
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NOT EVEN the soft evidence??

autumn mural
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nope, even on maps that dont have soft evidence

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after clearing everything I have the bots do a search for weapons I might have missed

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even so A+

sharp sage
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If it helps S rank clarifies

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NO FUCKUPS. No dead witnesses or suspects, and such.

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I dunno where you missed.

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if it helps they also clarify no friendly fire of any kind

autumn mural
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ye I did the first map with tasers only once and not a single civ hurt, still A+ (solo)

sharp sage
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???

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did any of your guys die?

autumn mural
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nope i left them holding at the car

sharp sage
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??? Did you plan on clearing out crime scenes by yourself?!

autumn mural
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yea I try that after clearing every map

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cool challenge

sharp sage
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jesus christ I'm so confused

true plank
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hi jesus i'm gay

sharp sage
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how the fuck did you fuck yourself to an A+??

autumn mural
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thats what I dont understand haha, Ill just do it over and over again i guess

sharp sage
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did you even double check your results screen

true plank
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a usp 45

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and spaghetti

autumn mural
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yea, the results always show eveything cleared and no penalties

solid cape
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That only means you killed/incap someone

autumn mural
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mean me hurting a civ?

sharp sage
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Either you killed a suspect in which its not penalized

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like you only get 5 pts instead of 25

autumn mural
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downing them is fine, just killing that isnt to my understanding. even so the clear with tasers only would make that impossible

sharp sage
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tazers aren't exactly reliable

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for good measure did you make sure your teammates aren't using their sidearms

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like take out ALL of their ammo??

autumn mural
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the tries with taser only were all solo (my dudes were on HOLD by the car)

sharp sage
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that's like being a finalist in hell's kitchen

autumn mural
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lmfao

sharp sage
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Literal HELL

autumn mural
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i mean the first few maps arent so hard

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gas nades, tasers, mirror gun, some wedges, clean

sharp sage
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can I see your results for the first mission

autumn mural
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can I pull them back afterwards? idk how to do that but yea sure just tell me how

autumn mural
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aight hol my beer ill do it again

runic aspen
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war thunder worth playing free?

autumn mural
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consider me bamboozled it was indeed an S this time

hidden wharf
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which gun is the loudest?

lilac vale
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If you equip everyone with it make sure to lower volume

lilac vale
austere heart
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what mode is less laggy? DirectX11 or directX12 or safe mode?(i use no mods)

mild palm
austere heart
sharp sage
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almost done with the Hospital S rank

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LOOKING for ONE LAST CIVVIE

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found the two missing civvies

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and one missing makarov!

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I have now achieved the S rank for the Hospital mission after 40 MINUTES AND 8 TRIES

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One last mission

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Hide and Seek!

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Wish me luck

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And I died on the first try

sleek blade
sharp sage
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GODAAMN IT I DIED ON MY SECOND TRY WHILE SEARCHING THE WAREHOUSE

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SO CLOSE TO THE END!!

steel lintel
sharp sage
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I got caught off guard while trying to incapacitate two enemies partway through the breach

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I SOMEHOW died after going through ALL that work

steel lintel
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That sucks

sharp sage
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Third try

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I got to the Auction Room..

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fucking hell, dude..

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they HAD THIS SITTING IN THE BACK OF A WAREHOUSE.

steel lintel
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Yeah😂

sharp sage
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i got all the civvies

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now just the bastards who thought it was a good idea to do it.

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I DID IT

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I FINALLY GOT THE LAST SUSPECT

steel lintel
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Awesome

sharp sage
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I HAVE FINALLY FINISHED READY OR NOT WITH A FULL PERFECT SCORE

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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

autumn mural
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So I have 2 non lethal loadouts, 1 for the beanbag and 1 pepper, and a ton of others testing different guns but dang there are so many. Which one would you guys say is the best "lethal" weapon to go for A+ and S tiers? Mostly tried rifles so far, idk how subs would fair, shotguns just seem a no go cause no armor would be instakill

autumn mural
sharp sage
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take out ALL sidearm mags for AI

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Add AS MANY FLASHBANGS AND C2 YOU NEED

autumn mural
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thats a nice tip i didnt know I cout mess with their weapons

sharp sage
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and get yourself a nice shotgun

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Beanbag, most likely

autumn mural
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but saying to me, if I want ot use a lethal gun, what would be the "ace"

sharp sage
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There is NO recommended lethal

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Get a beanbag to the body and you're guaranteed downed

autumn mural
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I'm still like clearing the game, after the first successful raid Im all for going in all non lethal but the first time I really like to have something that can respond fast and with power if needed

sharp sage
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C2 on doors and you'll have people wishing they never were born.

pliant briar
sharp sage
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Add Flashbangs and they'll SEE GOD

autumn mural
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Any of the SMGS are worthwhile? I havent meddled with them much aside from the p90 witch is a personal fav

pliant briar
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no

autumn mural
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ah quite sad, 9mm rounds are too weak?

sharp sage
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Yes.

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5.7 or 5.56.

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or 7.62.

pliant briar
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you forgot about .300 BLK

sharp sage
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hell, get me a 45!

pliant briar
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7.62 is a meme cartridge

autumn mural
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thought the 7.62 was more of an overkill like I WANT BLOOOOOD lol

pliant briar
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not much blood as you would just one shoot everything :P

solid cape
autumn mural
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I dont think i tested the arn-18 yet, will do next mission

raven stream
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aim for the head and it becomes irrelevant what caliber you use

autumn mural
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ha id love that, if I could aim that well hahahah

raven stream
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practice makes perfect

raven stream
autumn mural
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i mostly miss a lot when I'm under fire, even if its not hitting the suppresion effect is crazy strong

raven stream
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if there's no concealment to return to under fire, crouch, that throws off the AI for a moment. Just enough for you to return fire

pliant briar
# raven stream ?

you know, the whole police being about preserving life and avoiding collateral damage

gusty stump
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Aim center of mass

pliant briar
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that too

raven stream
pliant briar
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especially for them

autumn mural
raven stream
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yikes

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not cool bro, not cool

pliant briar
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would be very bad for the department if SWAT were to become a kill squad

sharp sage
autumn mural
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true thats why S requires no downs

sharp sage
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an appropriate approach

raven stream
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Judge Dredd approach

autumn mural
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only time I ever headshotted the suspects whas when they were holding someone at gun point

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but I legit dont know what else I could have done

sharp sage
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Shoulder?

autumn mural
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no gunpoint to their heads, hiding behind

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hell if I know a shoulder shot will be enough for that civ to liv

sharp sage
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HOLY SHIT I HAVE A 1.1% ACHIEVEMENT

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I feel so fuckin' proud of myself

steel lintel
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Yeah

sharp sage
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hahahahaha..

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I'm finally fuckin' free.

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Been fighting since March 16th of this year

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and it's finally fuckin' over.

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And this is the same guy who spent a MONTH 100%ing all of Cyberpunk 2077's achievements

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from February to MARCH

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Woo!!

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I was VERY tempted to try and do the Devil and Fool achievements

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but I didn't WANT to risk the S rank in any suggestion

steel lintel
sharp sage
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in the OLD ITERATIONS

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as for Devil that shouldn't be hard

steel lintel
sharp sage
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she was easy to scare with in my approaches

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I literally gave her tinnitus

steel lintel
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Leave the team at the parking lot. You don't shout at her. Just walk over, doing nothing 😂

sharp sage
steel lintel
sharp sage
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I already got the S rank for all the base game missioins

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i didn't feel like worrying now thanks to you

steel lintel
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Yeah

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You always will keep the best rank even if you fail a mission when you do them again

karmic beacon
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dawg anyone here get the big shell specialist achievement

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im hitting shots like more than 30m away and it aint registering

dense python
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meow

supple needle
solid cape
karmic beacon
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active suspects

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have their guns out and not surrendering

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i shot like 3 over 30 meters away

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im even counting in paces

solid cape
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They all were headshots?

halcyon kernel
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Were they doing the whole stand off thing where they slowly back up all hunched over, like ready to decide if they should put down the gun or shoot

karmic beacon
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that counts?

halcyon kernel
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I always get dumb ass penalties during that animation

karmic beacon
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2 of them were shootin

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other was aimin but didnt shoot

solid cape
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Does not matter, if they stand it's will count

karmic beacon
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clearly it aint cuz its not registering

solid cape
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Best way is restart on helipad till you will see 2 suspects on the left or the right side under

karmic beacon
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ive been utilizing the helicopter cam too

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still i know for a fact ive been headshotting active suspects more than 30m away

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but for some reason its not counting

solid cape
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You playing singleplayer?

karmic beacon
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yeah on quickplay

solid cape
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The only way it's wont count is only if you not a host in multiplayer

karmic beacon
solid cape
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Can you make a clip of that?

quiet ocean
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i got 4 of the watt suspects to surrender

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one i had to gun down

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my array of suspects

karmic beacon
true plank
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meow

brisk yoke
solid cape
sharp mist
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Will devs be adding police dogs?

true plank
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no at this rate they're gunna get ff

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lol

karmic beacon
solid cape
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I think you need finish it

sharp mist
true plank
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sorry, friendly fired

sharp mist
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oh alr thanks

true plank
lime eagle
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Is the school shooting a mod or actual level?

lilac vale
wanton musk
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Real level, and it's set in a uni

lilac vale
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Then there are modded maps that also have a school setting

lime eagle
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And how many missions are there in the game excluding dlcs?

lilac vale
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Every current dlc adds 3 more

glacial tulip
brisk yoke
lilac vale
lilac vale
glacial tulip
glacial tulip
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free maps

wanton musk
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This is from Gruntr not gratr so it has credibility hehe

lilac vale
lilac vale
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It’s okay i know you all mod team love each other

silent tendon
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Did anyone else get nightmares from this game

lilac vale
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Judge does

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Look at those eyes, those are the eyes of someone who can’t sleep

halcyon kernel
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those are the eyes of someone who has seen that they are just a person in a game, unable to control their actions

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someone who lies awake, knowing he is being controlled by someone to do the same missions over and over in the futile hope of achieving S rank

dense python
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🦂

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ready

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or

cunning jacinth
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Hi

rigid bone
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No

wanton musk
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wot >:(

dense python
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dot dot dot

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does anyone know

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that
in
ready or not

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you can

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open doors

rigid bone
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That's supposed to be a secret y'know

green tusk
wanton musk
normal sinew
gusty stump
lean mango
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i get nightmare from the amount of people shipping judge and gerard

rigid bone
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It's fine, you'll have your emotional support Judge to hug

runic aspen
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what happened to the preaching guy

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💀

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I joined his steam group chat before, they were interviewing me

rigid bone
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Best guess is now that he can be host-banned, there's been a significant drop in the people he's actually been hitting.

runic aspen
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Buddy decided to preach on RoN 🤣

brisk yoke
dense python
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🐍

karmic beacon
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@solid cape no need anymore ive got the achievement finally

glacial tulip
harsh edge
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omg

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WHATS GOOD HOMIE?!

dense python
harsh edge
dense python
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🦅

gusty stump
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🦈 ❓

green tusk
harsh edge
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holy santa claus shit

dense python
green tusk
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Now that is bannable

harsh edge
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you won't

green tusk
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Perhaps

harsh edge
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you find my cringe too endearing

wanton musk
harsh edge
plucky dirge
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i hate every mod in this server

wanton musk
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Don't knock it 'till you try it

silent tendon
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This server is pretty cool you can play with random ppl instead of AI

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wish my friends had pc

harsh edge
silent tendon
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How is there a Brit in this server

green tusk
silent tendon
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We are abt guns and stuff

harsh edge
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I wanna be a part of a Met dog pile on a suspect just once, seeing their BWC on team blue line on fb it's some of the coolest ass whoopings I've ever seen

gusty stump
harsh edge
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cause like if the ass whooping doesn't work in the Met you're kind of out of options lmao

lean mango
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i love how Container0 is an emoji

harsh edge
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Like "oy m8 stop what you're bloody doin or you're gonna catch a whalloppin ya bloody tosser"

plucky dirge
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Ode à la Joie!!!!

wanton musk
lean mango
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the sheer context behind it is enough for people to understand what that means

dense python
harsh edge
wanton musk
harsh edge
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shibuya I'd forgot my name if it wasn't on my fuckin vest m8

lean mango
rigid bone
lean mango
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is this guy name ready

plucky dirge
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puru sh

gusty stump
crystal jewel
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We need to make CQB widely available information

crystal jewel
# harsh edge It is.

But the dissapointing bit is that so little of the player base knows what a hard corner is 😭 😭 😭

harsh edge
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Anyone with an internet connection can read manuals and watch videos of room clearing and breaching tactics, tactical movements and pieing corners

crystal jewel
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Points of Domination PLEEEASE 🙏

gusty stump
harsh edge
harsh edge
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We learn what a corner is in the sense of pieing it 😭

harsh edge
autumn mural
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ok first time runnin elephant and I just got the terrifying realization that they are killing civs one by one. How fast do I need to be so no one dies?

lean mango
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all i know about cqb is check your corners and occasionally pie room

autumn mural
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HOLY S

crystal jewel
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What I mean when I say CQB is the way you move through a room

lean mango
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im a gamer not a goddamn swat JudgeDredd

steel lintel
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And 10 for the bombs

crystal jewel
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Not just checking corners and what not

autumn mural
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BOMBS!?!?!?!? aight boys we cooked

harsh edge
halcyon kernel
harsh edge
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Until you go to basic swat school most of cqb is don't give up your back and move methodically direct to threat

steel lintel
rigid bone
halcyon kernel
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and don't pay attention to the civs until suspects are down

crystal jewel
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The difficulty with understanding CQB among other people is that its instructed in like a million different ways that are mostly saying the same set of things with a few variations

autumn mural
halcyon kernel
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yeah, they're slippery motherfuckers

harsh edge
halcyon kernel
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they like to run circles around you, so you might have to double back often

harsh edge
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Like I've got no problem admitting my tactical knowledge begins and ends at in service and what they taught us in the academy, but you'll get dudes who don't know shit preaching nonsense to everyone who'll listen

crystal jewel
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For instance, FBI HRT probably uses different verbage than, say, a local SWAT team, or BORTAC, or fuckin DEVGRU

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But the core elements remain the same I think

harsh edge
#

Basic swat is how to be a part of a team, movements, emotional control and breaching

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advanced swat is more of how to lead a team from my understanding

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US Army infantry manual recommends generous use of fragmentation grenades in breaching a house occupied by the enemy yea

wanton musk
#

words

crystal jewel
#

obviously a different SOP than the cops 😭

harsh edge
#

but we're fighting a 21st century war where combat needs to be pretty.

crystal jewel
#

If I'm going to be completely honest, I've never done CQB in real life (I'm not LEO or military), but I've been in so many communities/media circles that regularly discuss really complicated CQB that I know a lot about it

harsh edge
#

You know a lot about what the book says about it. It's never as pretty as people say it should be and human error is abound.

crystal jewel
#

Like I know a lot of the advanced tactics, I just don't know how to apply them outside of a game

tl;dr, I'm a fat larper

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(i'm not really fat)

harsh edge
#

My mantra is win the god damn fight first and foremost. Make sure no one besides the suspect gets hurt second of all, and third of all try to make sure the suspect only gets hurt as much as they need to be.

If you do it legally, with no one getting hurt, and safely? Errors come out in the wash.

harsh edge
#

And for me personally? Present force when your gut tells you to, not when the threat is engaging you. How many excessive or at least very ugly looking uses of force begin as an obvious underuse or underpresentation of force?

glacial tulip
#

runaway

harsh edge
#

Lot of incidents where you see police try to talk when talking obviously isn't working, repeatedly use a TASER when a TASER obviously isn't working, or use otherwise inappropriate or ineffective uses of force because for one reason or another they're afraid to escelate

And it escelates to a suspect being shot because they hesitated to escelate

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Usually the reason boils down to they work for 1 of the 90% of chiefs that are worthless politicians that don't care about them

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This sounds fucked up, but police don't just punch enough people in the face. Is it ever pretty? No.

But it's a lot prettier than TASERing someone til they have a heart attack because you were afraid of how ugly just punching them in the face is.

harsh edge
#

🤷‍♂️

crystal jewel
#

US LEO have demonstrated that they straight up cant de-escelate

harsh edge
#

And you're a subject matter expert on de-escelation?

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Cause I've got a lot of extra training on the matter past the academy

And the reality is there comes a time where talking is ineffective

crystal jewel
#

Oh I'm no expert

harsh edge
crystal jewel
#

Common sense, look at other countries, they have less problems with cops escelating situations that dont need to be

harsh edge
#

If someone is having a violent crisis to the point family is calling us, how effective is de-escelation gonna be? If that person's safest people they've trusted their whole life can't do it, what on god's green earth makes you think we can?

harsh edge
#

If every other country in the world had as broken of a mental health system as we do, it'd be just as bad yea

gaunt holly
#

Cheese, beans and chewna

crystal jewel
#

The United Kingdom, Canada and Australia are all countries with comparable mental health crisises

harsh edge
#

No the fuck they ain't.

rigid bone
crystal jewel
#

They have less of an issue than this

harsh edge
#

They verifiably are not.

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Do you have the slightest clue how bad our mental health crisis is, intersected with our drug crisis?

rigid bone
#

You're also missing the issue of Scale, Socio-econoimic problems, and lack of training standardization in the United States

crystal jewel
rigid bone
#

Hold up, let's pump the brakes here for a second

harsh edge
gaunt holly
#

Ask them politely to stop 🤓

crystal jewel
harsh edge
rigid bone
#

Laika, I'm not asking this to demine or target you, more just to get an idea of where you're coming from

harsh edge
rigid bone
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What's your age range, where are you from, and what do you do?

crystal jewel
rigid bone
#

Because knowing your position helps the conversation

harsh edge
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I mean this with all the love of my fellow human in my heart, and my desire to help people, save lives and make positive change to back it.

If someone presents a deadly threat to my life or the life of a 3rd party, they're getting shot. Time for talk at that point is past and over.

rigid bone
#

I'm in my 30s, have worked with people my entire life, and I live in the US.

rigid bone
#

Spectre himself is a LEO as well, someone that's been doing it for a few years

crystal jewel
#

My problem is with cops who use force against people who are not presenting an active threat

gaunt holly
#

Klubinsky 🤝 Spectre. Good way to start a Sunday morning 😊

crystal jewel
#

Standby

rigid bone
#

I refer to what I said earlier:

In the age of information, many things seem more prevelent based on the fact that 'you see more of it, that means it must be happening more'.

waxen latch
#

i dont think the united states is comparable to any other country to begin with, its less of a single country and more of a giant melting pot that has a spectrum that resembles a nation yet it is far from that.

rigid bone
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Each state is effectively equivelent to a Europian Nation

harsh edge
#

And our insane population density where these problems are at their worst doesn't help

harsh edge
crystal jewel
rigid bone
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Naw.

halcyon kernel
#

Yeah, crime in LA isn't comparable to crimes in podink, Alabama

harsh edge
#

Remembering causation isn't correlation, which one?

crystal jewel
#

Have you ever thought about how the mental health crisis might be effecting police?

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Standby

harsh edge
crystal jewel
crystal jewel
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As tragic as that is, I more mean the fact that police are using force because some of them are legitimately insane\

harsh edge
rigid bone
harsh edge
crystal jewel
harsh edge
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And we have a much higher population density

crystal jewel
harsh edge
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Lower socioeconomic outlook

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And a worse drug and mental health issue

crystal jewel
#

Then why do US police so little training before being operational? See the next figure

rigid bone
#

That figure only covers non-operational training, it doesn't cover the on-the-job or Vocational stuff that many departments require or provide

harsh edge
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I'll never disagree we should get more training, I'm always begging my Sgt to send me to more training, I'm telling you 1000 hours of training on mental health crisis isn't going to change the fact there are societal issues with healthcare, corrections, rehab, drug control and family planning that create situations where shooting are inevitable.

wanton musk
#

Not here man

pale mountain
rigid bone
#

Not on the Discord

pale mountain
#

then

wanton musk
pale mountain
#

Dude i just need a real debrid accoutn

lilac vale
crystal jewel
rigid bone
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Ok

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We're stopping this talk here

#

Both of you

crystal jewel
#

Very well

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I'm fine with that

#

We agree to disagree

rigid bone
#

It's not a discussion, it's someone looking for purchase to fight against someone on a subject they fundamentally do not want to understand.

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You're sealioning this entire thing until you get to a point where you can declare yourself the winner

crystal jewel
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I'm not trying to be bad faith at all, I am honestly concerned about the issue

waxen latch
harsh edge
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The reality is issues in policing aren't the beginning of a societal problem, they're the end of one.

halcyon kernel
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it's all a domino effect that always leads back to a massive flaw that causes someone to be driven to end up in the situation that ultimately has police involved

harsh edge
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When you don't tend to your mentally ill, when you criminalize struggling, when you don't house your homeless, rehabilitate your lost souls and feed your hungry, it ALL ends up the issue of the people whose job it becomes to help, fix or control those people.

crystal jewel
harsh edge
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Which is our mental health clinicians (what few are left), police, EMS and correctional staff.

crystal jewel
#

The US is criminalizing homelessness

harsh edge
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I fully support more training, I think crisis intervention training should be standard in the academy (40 hours) and am fully on board with mental health co-response programs

waxen latch
#

Ready Or Not

crystal jewel
lilac vale
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name of a video game

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crazy right

crystal jewel
#

why did he just show up and say "Ready or Not"

waxen latch
#

best selling game on steam ron

crystal jewel
#

yes, welcome, how do you do

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Ready or Not

rigid bone
compact lotus
#

I think that conversation should've started with it depends

harsh edge
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My point that started this whole thing is that because we DON'T have that training every where yet and because our command staff are a bunch of worthless turds who don't train us, expect us to bend to political will, and don't support us, a lot of cops are scared to use or display force when it in fact would've been effective at de-escelating the conflict before it escelates to the point of someone being shot.

gusty stump
harsh edge
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Someone whose in handcuffs because you showed up, realized they were on an upswing and put them in cuffs isn't gonna end up shot in 99.999% of cases

rigid bone
gusty stump
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Daddyminsky (sorry)

crystal jewel
#

That's just an example\

simple turret
#

@crystal jewel do you even have any interest in the game, do you own or plan on playing the game?

crystal jewel
waxen latch
#

Ready or Not

halcyon kernel
#

Not or Ready

simple turret
harsh edge
lilac vale
crystal jewel
#

Why don't I put a situation in front of you, one that I've seen before

harsh edge
#

Go for it.

rigid bone
wanton musk
rigid bone
#

Guys, please.

lilac vale
gaunt holly
#

Ron Gaming

crystal jewel
wanton musk
rigid bone
#

That's what DMs are for

lilac vale
harsh edge
#

Saying it now no my DMs are not open to carry this on. Kaminsky doesn't have power over my DMs 😭

wanton musk
lilac vale
#

but who am I to judge

halcyon kernel
simple turret
#

haha judge

halcyon kernel
#

that's who you are to judge c:

harsh edge
halcyon kernel
harsh edge
#

dead chat

wanton musk
halcyon kernel
#

is it truly dead if we're playing a game now?

gaunt holly
#

Nobody plays ron

harsh edge
halcyon kernel
#

gasp, am I ender?

gaunt holly
#

😭

harsh edge
gaunt holly
#

I haven't taken my 20 incher out since the day it was delivered 😭

harsh edge
brisk yoke
#

what the fuck

harsh edge
#

certified

nimble dawn
#

where do i report someone here

wanton musk
lilac vale
#

This is a family friendly server

halcyon kernel
#

bruh

brisk yoke
#

okay man

normal sinew
#

i dont think thats a map

crystal jewel
#

come on man

normal sinew
#

not a map either im afraid

lilac vale
crystal jewel
#

You know what I like about Ready or Not lore

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A lot of the time you feel more like a spectator to things going on around you, rather than someone directly involved with the lore

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Your job is simple, bring order to chaos

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To defuse a dangerous situation

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But everything, and everyone around you seems to be hinting at something beyond your paygrade, something you are literally not paid to understand

halcyon oar
#

no.. im hero

crystal jewel
halcyon oar
#

Yeah.. im Ready

crystal jewel
#

I think its a perfect encapsulation of the fact that most people don't really care much for the lore, but its there

halcyon kernel
#

I really like the lore too, it's what keeps me playing, I'm always learning something new

obtuse zephyr
#

we are playing with a girl, can you add a girl character ?

crystal jewel
#

I mean 2023

obtuse zephyr
#

So will they add a female character?

crystal jewel
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Its to be determined

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I personally hope they do, that would be cool

obtuse zephyr
#

Yes, I would like the character to be a girl.

true plank
#

ready? c:

harsh edge
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there's mods that add female officers uwu

plucky dirge
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there shouldnt be mods it should be in the game

obtuse zephyr
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yes i would like the character to be officially a girl

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Can you offer the developers such a proposal to add a girl, ready or not?

plucky dirge
#

audentes fortuna iuvat

simple turret
#

female officer sure, also add a malice skin to the battlepass smidog

pliant briar
plucky dirge
#

yes you stink that is right

green tusk
#

Latin for "I feel quite hungry"

pliant briar
plucky dirge
#

stinky

pliant briar
#

not as much as i did with mutt i guess

green tusk
pliant briar
waxen latch
#

me trying to rewire my conditioning when searching for kavinsky instead of kaminsky

true plank
#

kam.

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wth even is that

rigid bone
#

The old meme from Mass Effect 2

plucky dirge
#

mass effect

true plank
#

is that the fucking boogeyman

halcyon kernel
#

is there a design reason why TYCA was revamped?

rigid bone
#

TYCA?

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Oh, the gas station

halcyon kernel
#

I just played the old 2020 map, I actually like it better than the current one- Thank you come again

#

yeah

rigid bone
#

It was just on the chopping block for an update, both in its' framework to allow it to take better advantage of newer systems and for it to be a more realistic structure.

halcyon kernel
#

that's reasonable

true plank
#

meow

dull tiger
#

Anyone got any tips for Voll Health House? Loadout, etc

runic aspen
#

i aint move my right hand in half an hour and now my pinky and only my pinky is Decomposing

runic aspen
half stratus
#

someone should mod that new 40mm mag fed launcher from remington into the game

runic aspen
#

All pistol AP callibers work, fiveseven you can get away with JHP

half stratus
runic aspen
#

As per strategy, what ive always been doing, clear the top floor all the way until the big living room balcony

half stratus
#

remember, aim for the head

runic aspen
#

and then go down the stairs to the right of the beginning of the map and clear the rest of the main house

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then the outside, then finally the basement

runic aspen
#

Bro they only got L2's

#

How many collaterals do you want?

half stratus
runic aspen
half stratus
#

fuck em

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just aim good

runic aspen
#

hmm

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you are a fallout new vegas enjoyer

#

opinion respected

half stratus
runic aspen
runic aspen
#

or sorry, brotherhood of hands or something

dull tiger
#

I've been running around with a shotgun, it's ok, only problem I'm having is them shooting me through the windows

half stratus
runic aspen
#

You really have to play around windows and keep them in mind because they are a pain up the bozzum

dull tiger
#

Slugs are great personally, I much prefer taking the top half of their head off over a little blood stain on their chest too

half stratus
#

gimme an AA-12 or some similar shit

runic aspen
#

theres an aa12 mod

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and it has a looooooooooooooooooooooooooong magazine

half stratus
#

you cant say that and not link it

runic aspen
#

fine

#

aa12 looks like an unfinished prototype

#

or a minecraft gun

half stratus
#

oh its got the funny mag too

runic aspen
#

saiga12 is beautiful mikhael kalashnikov approved

half stratus
#

you're a legend my good sir

runic aspen
#

Tunnel snakes rule

half stratus
#

i just found a mod that adds a funny looking chinese sniper called the QBU

#

now ive got a sniper and an AA12, these terrorists are in danger

runic aspen
#

Damn

#

ehh

#

mods are very mehh

half stratus
#

mods are fun

runic aspen
#

they try their best to do something called "balance"

#

cringe am i right

half stratus
runic aspen
#

Exactly thats what im saying

#

thats why i turned the useless piss color dissapointment of a 1911 m45a1 into a minigun that has so much recoil it shoots past the top of your screen

#

bests weapon

runic aspen
half stratus
#

im gonna go raid a pedophiles apartment now, wish me luck

runic aspen
half stratus
#

G3A3

runic aspen
#

but its

#

long and boring

runic aspen
#

preposterous

half stratus
runic aspen
#

I just caught my girlfriend cheating on me

#

My question is, how could such a beautiful man sleep with a woman like her?

half stratus
carmine ridge
#

is there ANYBODY struggling to complete elephant?

brave nymph
#

gratr

half stratus
glass mulch
#

gratr ?

regal summit
glass mulch
#

@half stratus You been doing your duty to Krieg?

carmine ridge
runic aspen
half stratus
#

i beat the hell out of a custodes army with kriegers

runic aspen
#

Everyone there is unarmed except the officers

#

How is it hard to complete?

carmine ridge
#

And they kill hostages after 2 mins

runic aspen
#

Thats my crew yeah

formal matrix
#

havent played elephant in a while

#

i remember sometimes the npcs would tweak out and instantly execute civilians before you could even leave the spawn area

runic aspen
#

I completed elephant a few times, once on S tier

carmine ridge
formal matrix
#

yeah it was a temporary thing

carmine ridge
#

No matter what

runic aspen
#

All you need is a solid crew and you can take on any mission really

formal matrix
#

i like elephant its a cool layout

#

only thing i hate is the amount of locked doors but it makes sense ig given the setting

carmine ridge
#

I'm looking for all of the hostages right now and there are so many of them

formal matrix
#

i typically just focus on suspects first, bombs, then order gold to do full search afterwards

#

pretty simple wrap up if done quickly

formal matrix
#

also does anyone have an issue where when using the flashlight whatever ur beam lands on sorta looks pixelated

runic aspen
#

Just spam F many times and youll find them

half stratus
#

man this AA12 fucks

formal matrix
#

i cant tell if its my settings or my monitor bc my pc is more than enough to run the game

half stratus
#

i hit someone in the face and his face disappeared

runic aspen
formal matrix
#

or if i just need to adjust my advanced settings

half stratus
runic aspen
#

Yeah night vision doesnt look pixelated but the flashlight does

formal matrix
#

i like using flashlights bc i like regular swat gameplay but sometimes the way it messes w the graphics throws ne off

formal matrix
runic aspen
#

Just the way the game is

formal matrix
#

rough

#

hope it gets fixed at some point i feel like the lighting typically is solid but the flashlight soley causes issues

runic aspen
#

There is an optimization update coming out soon

#

I have some hopes its gonna be good, perhaps it might even fix the flashlight thing

formal matrix
#

all i rlly want fixed tbh

runic aspen
#

All i really care about is optimization

formal matrix
#

i like utilizing flashlights more than nvgs sometimes just for the fun of it

runic aspen
#

Game runs pretty bad to be honest

formal matrix
#

lore accurate lspd gameplay (cant afford nods or anything of quality)

runic aspen
#

Especially with a lot of players

carmine ridge
#

S tier'd it.

runic aspen
#

nice

carmine ridge
#

Took almost 10 minutes

runic aspen
#

I would've played ready or not for completely free

half stratus
serene moth
#

I keep having this problem where when I open the game iit freezes and I cant close the game or open another tab because it just re full screens the frozen game. Anyone know how to fix it. It didn't do this before

runic aspen
#

UAssetGUI is booting up as we speak

wide sinew
#

heyo

runic aspen
#

mr blank, how fast does a minigun fire?

wide sinew
wide sinew
runic aspen
runic aspen
wide sinew
#

three tata"s

wide sinew
runic aspen
wide sinew
#

six Ta's

runic aspen
#

i can shoot bolt actions faster

wide sinew
#

oh

runic aspen
#

DugaDugaDugaDuga

#

Not BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

wide sinew
#

960,000,000,000,000,000,000,9 Ta's

runic aspen
#

per universe lifespan?

wide sinew
#

no

runic aspen
#

i mean

#

that's still like, Really fast

#

wait nvm

#

back to bolt action

wide sinew
#

idk what answer you want bra😭😭

wide sinew
runic aspen
#

Like in your opion how fast does a minigun shoot

wide sinew
#

never seeen an actual minigun shoot before

runic aspen
#

Me neither

wide sinew
#

uh

runic aspen
#

but in YOUR OPIONONION

wide sinew
#

BUT IDKKK

runic aspen
#

choose a reasonable number

wide sinew
#

fast

#

yeah

runic aspen
#

hmm

wide sinew
#

are you making an ctual minigun like irl?

serene moth
#

Fixed it. just updated my drivers lol

runic aspen
#

by using ascii, f times 128^3+a times 128^2+ s times 128 + t, is equal to 215,513,588 RPM

runic aspen
#

yes kinda

#

ok you know what

#

How many grains of sand can fit in a marble?

wide sinew
#

like

#

which marbel

runic aspen
#

glass marble

#

like the one from squid game famously

wide sinew
#

ya but size

runic aspen
#

width of thumb roughly

wide sinew
#

oh uhh

#

atleast two

runic aspen
#

at most?

wide sinew
#

hm

#

maybe 15,673

runic aspen
#

interesting

wide sinew
#

very

runic aspen
#

now how many glass marbles fit in a medium sized nutella jar?

wide sinew
#

thumb sized?

#

257

runic aspen
#

damn

#

So now how much sand can you fit in the jar provided its filled with marbles?

#

in mols preferably

wide sinew
#

the hell is a mol

runic aspen
#

damn you are not an experimental chemist my mistake

#

Grams then

wide sinew
#

bro im just tryna find someone who wants to play RoN😭😭

modest fern
wide sinew
#

ah thx

runic aspen
#

damn

wide sinew
#

is a mol, a molecul?

#

or

#

however

runic aspen
#

it has to do with avocado's number

#

6.02*10^23

wide sinew
#

okay then 900,000 grains of sand

#

why

runic aspen
wide sinew
#

whats happening

#

oh

#

`

wind badger
#

is this game worth getting

#

genuine question

half stratus
modest fern
#

Yes

#

x2

half stratus
wide sinew
modest fern
#

More acceptable

green tusk
#

There is a reason the bolt action was removed you know

glass mulch
#

:)

green tusk
#

"This is a livesaving organization!"

wide lava
#

Need a magazine fed shotgun, need a RC drone to explore the place too

half stratus
halcyon kernel
#

I wish we had drones so we could roll around the vents on maps like the apartment from megabyte

glass mulch
#

:)

rigid bone