💬general-discussion

[waxen latch]

But irish instead

[lilac vale]

you know what

I'll take it assuming I get ticket

[waxen latch]

You get the ticket

But not the flight tickets

You pay that

[lilac vale]

Sure I'll take a Ryanair cheap ticket anyway

[pliant briar]

why do you

type

like this

?

[lilac vale]

Why do you

always have to comment everything

[pliant briar]

pretty sure i don't comment everything

and i only asked because that's the only thing you see when you scroll a bit

[next hollow]

my guy flexing no slowmode

[wild trellis]

NVIDA 5090

[lilac vale]

It's a GPU

That costs as much as a whole PC setup almost

[pliant briar]

that could be said about any gpu tbh

[lilac vale]

sure..

[pliant briar]

usually gpus are like 1/3 of the total price

[dire wasp]

ps5 on ready or not would be cool

[wild trellis]

Will that ever happen idk prolly not

[lilac vale]

not anytime soon at least

[wild trellis]

Booster

[delicate swallow]

can i get someone to watch me do this run

makes it easy to focus

[lilac vale]

Ask your crush

Cute date

[stable salmon]

Is there a roadmap or mainly is the amount of future dlc known?

[lilac vale]

not for 2025 and 2026

[stable salmon]

Alr thanks

[fallen sail]

We only know we're getting one more update that's not gonna have any dlc so far

[gilded granite]

yo

should i get a ps5 or xbox controller for 2k

[gaunt holly]

The final update? 😲

[stable salmon]

But assumedly this is subject to change?

[fallen sail]

Probably not

The next updates though are blank

[gaunt holly]

The game is getting close to completion 😲

[pliant briar]

only 20 years left

[fallen sail]

1.0 soon guys

[lilac vale]

Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

[rigid bone]

Not exactly. Possible patch, but for sure a DLC and Free Content update coming this year

[fallen sail]

I sure fuckin hope we're getting a patch, the surrender glitches are baffling

[lilac vale]

For SURE?!?!?!? I WILL KEEP AN EYE ON YOU

[runic aspen]

Can some tell me how do I get at least a B on elephant

It’s so annoying I crashed out so many times

[runic aspen]

Have a route for clearing it.

[gaunt holly]

Go fast. Don't stop for anything except bombs. And get lucky

[sick flume]

Don't stop for the bombs, get them after you kill all the suspects

You don't have enough time to waste before they start executing hostages

[runic aspen]

Bruh I just suck then I use pepper gun btw for all my crew for s tier

[sick flume]

Flashbangs and beanbags, gas is too slow

[runic aspen]

Hmm true I usually just go where ever randomly

[runic aspen]

YEAH I do

[sick flume]

C2 on all doors in your way for maximum speed

If you just need a completion I can run it with you rn

In multiplayer you just have everyone immediately go to different sections of the map to clear individually, but in singleplayer you can't really do that

Sometimes you get lucky with spawns

[slow moth]

The way I did S-rank was by having 4 people split between top floor and bottom floor. The priority is in this order of importance
TOP No. 1: All 4 shooters (there's only 4, so fan out and get them)
2: Bombs (Only ever 2, so just listen for beeping)
3: Evidence
4: Civilians

If you want S, you all need to be running pepperballs. Beanbags can kill if you headshot, so you'd need someone to be a good shot to trust they won't headshot someone with it

Pepperballs, tazers, no pistol ammo, and maybe a flashbang or 2

[sick flume]

Counterpoint, hitting them in the chest with a beanbag will cause an immediate stagger, allowing you to rush in and make the arrest. Sometimes they do not comply if you're only using pepper.

[torn marlin]

why is this game dead 😭

[sick flume]

It's not lol

Literally 10,000 players on right now

[torn marlin]

I couldn't find a lobby for 10 minutes, it's dead

[sick flume]

Skill issue

[lilac vale]

Just because you can't find a lobby doesn't automatically mean a game is dead

Not everything revolves around you

[wild trellis]

Bloody hell relapse is intense

[stray spire]

Skill issue

[wild trellis]

Lost 2 men in there and got a D

Luckily they still alive

[rotund niche]

l

[ashen oar]

good night guys

[viscid roost]

good night

[wild trellis]

I hate relapse

[soft breach]

is rust belt no longer a map? its not on my list of missions

[hardy canopy]

Skill issue n stuff

[lilac vale]

It’s still there

[wild trellis]

What’s after relapse

[soft breach]

hide and seek

[viscid roost]

play it again when you wake up

[wild trellis]

Then final mission?

[soft breach]

ive flipped through the list over and over its not there for me

[soft breach]

yes

[soft breach]

by far the hardest mission imo

[wild trellis]

Oh crap it took me like 3 days damn that felt long

[lilac vale]

Send a screenshot of your mission list in #🎬ron-clips-and-media

Is that in commander mode or?

[soft breach]

nope. in quick play. shouldnt matter though because hide and seek is the last map and i have that on the list. @lilac vale

[lilac vale]

Strange, I would ask @solid cape for help

[wild trellis]

Why so?

[gentle coyote]

I find the hospital harder, I completed port first try S rank

[soft breach]

its not complicated by any means (no bomb vests) but i feel that the map is so big that it changes so often. once you get into the warehouse theres lots of angles. i also completed the mission all the way through with no officer deaths, all evidence, no civillian deaths, and no points at all taken away and only got a B. theres a reddit post on it and people are saying that you have to do it as if you were going for S? im not sure. but it gets tricky (for me at least)

[gentle coyote]

Elephant took me the most tries for S

[soft breach]

i actually like hospital but i agree its tricky. most of my S ranks were before the big changes (early access) and havent had the desire to go for S on the hospital since lol

[gentle coyote]

Gas helped me a lot on hospital, I think I went with 4 beanbag mags, 2 c2s and the rest into gas grenades + a stinger launcher

[soft breach]

thats a good tip because of all the rooms its easy to gas. as apposed to say a map like narcos thats outside and open

[timber night]

is there a way to change FOV? i just restarted playing and i kinda forgot

[wild trellis]

So what happens after you do the final mission

Your js done?

[lilac vale]

Uh yeah

[wild trellis]

Damn 😔

All my fallen men will be remembered

[gaunt holly]

That's when you can start having fun with the game

Replay your fave missions using different tactics, etc

[glass mulch]

or if you have the DLCs continue on with those

[wild trellis]

I got the dlc

If I replay it I don’t wanna lose more men tbh

[glass mulch]

that's fair

[wild trellis]

Some of my men have been with me since first mission 💀

[glass mulch]

the experiance!

[gaunt holly]

There's always quick play and multiplayer

[glass mulch]

mhm

[pliant briar]

i might've missed the part where the game was replayable

[wild trellis]

I swear my men have aimbot one guy shot a bad guy through the fooor

[glass mulch]

welcome to RoN AI in general how can i take your order?

[gaunt holly]

Gotta nerd out a little and have some fun

[lilac vale]

Dude never has fun

[wild trellis]

Can you like have them like Js do the mission for me haha

[glass mulch]

🤣

[lilac vale]

Only in here to shit on Ron both literally and figuratively

[glass mulch]

huh?

[wild trellis]

Bc they did it for me on buy cheap

[glass mulch]

who?

[gaunt holly]

Me

[glass mulch]

ah

[wild trellis]

They literally cleared all of outside in like 5 mins 💀

[glass mulch]

damn

[wild trellis]

Also neon tomb has some of the best gunfights imo

[glass mulch]

neon tomb is fun

[gaunt holly]

Mansion for me

[wild trellis]

Most intense imo is relapse

[gaunt holly]

It's good layout

[wild trellis]

I was on my guard 24/7

[gaunt holly]

Relapse is just very... long

[glass mulch]

my favorite maps in game is tied between Twisted Nerve and Dorms

[gaunt holly]

But the map layout on relapse is fairly simple to navigate. Not many surprises

[glass mulch]

because, i like the run down feel and the horrorish feel to them

that's just me

[gaunt holly]

Twisted Nerve can be goated if the suspect AI were smarter and took better defensive positions

[wild trellis]

Top 3 hardest maps imo

1. Neon Tomb
2. VoD
3. SotF

No particular order

[gaunt holly]

Interesting

[wild trellis]

I struggled the most on those maps

[glass mulch]

Sins of the father was good

[wild trellis]

It’s overwhelming for first time player like me

[narrow quarry]

Greased palms I hate

[glass mulch]

joining that train

[wild trellis]

Relapse with all the lights and constant maze made me extremely overwhelmed

[gaunt holly]

1. Carriers
2. Port
3. Narcos

Are hardest for me

[wild trellis]

I think I caught myself panting once when I was doing VoD bc I was literally in a 5 min gunfight with the guy we need to keep

[narrow quarry]

best level porbably has to be sinuous trail in terms of gameplay for me

[wild trellis]

Rust belt is js bad

[gaunt holly]

Love sins, personally

[wild trellis]

Js bad

[narrow quarry]

I still think greased is worse

[wild trellis]

Like you literally js are running like a Vietnam tunnel rat

[narrow quarry]

greased is just way too open and too many angles

at least the npcs cant shoot thru the fences

[wild trellis]

Which one is greased again

Vines was js flat out gruesome to look at

[narrow quarry]

post office

[wild trellis]

Oh I did that first try

[gaunt holly]

Not really. Follow the map I drew. It makes it very easy

[wild trellis]

Vines was js weird

Some messed up shit I saw

[narrow quarry]

where can i find it?

[gaunt holly]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/921528178789474314/1314293294317965312/Screenshot_2024-12-05-10-12-06-54_92460851df6f172a4592fca41cc2d2e6.jpg?ex=6787fa83&is=6786a903&hm=0a1b5835af8be0b0dadd65ec5fbcc6cc14e790b0cf3a056490e21f6556366017&

[narrow quarry]

thx

[wild trellis]

Ides of March was lowkey so fun for me

[narrow quarry]

yea ideas is pretty good

I almost S ranked it first try

[wild trellis]

23mb is hands down amazing imo

Great beginner level still exciting for me everytime

[narrow quarry]

my favorite level in terms of visuals is lethal obsession rn

beautiful map

the house is so detailed too

[wild trellis]

Most disturbing map or js flat out gruesome map ?

[ember bay]

why does it keep saying crash report

[wild trellis]

Mine is VoD

[ember bay]

even tho im redownloaded it

[narrow quarry]

so far its twisted

didnt finish the game yet

so thats why

[wild trellis]

Js wait till VoD

You will be liek damn..

[gaunt holly]

Sins and mansion are my fave in regards to aesthetic/vibes

Very good maps

[wild trellis]

But which one was most gruesome or disturbing

[gaunt holly]

Idk. Never really paid attention to that stuff

[wild trellis]

I rlly took more in detail how gruesome or realistic the maps was

[gaunt holly]

Prob talent time is most disturbing

[wild trellis]

I wish I could js shoot the porn stars head off after VoD

[narrow quarry]

most disturbing would probably go to either port or valley

[boreal ore]

Twisted Nerve and Brixley's are the most disturbing to me.

[wild trellis]

School shooting one was absolutely insane to me

I was super rushed the entire time

[narrow quarry]

the amount of stuff they have prepped in the school is crazy

arent there grenade traps in the level too?

and theres a bomb u have to defuse as well i think

absolutely crazy

[wild trellis]

Oml doing yacht mission and seeing them killing the innocents made me js angry and rushed

[narrow quarry]

when I first played yacht I was playing with my friends we just speedran the entire level lol

I didnt even know that he ordered to kill civilians until i got the achievement

we got a pretty bad rating tho

[wild trellis]

So did I and we was constantly run and ginmigm trying to get to the civi

[mild dock]

Wish there was an achievement for having: no shots fired from suspects or officers, no officers, suspects or civs injured at all

[rocky socket]

Don’t think there are grenade traps in Elephant

[wild trellis]

The worst feeling in the game tbh I seeing your men die

Bc of your actions

[rocky socket]

Once saw a guy die on Hide and Seek because a suspect shot him from around the corner of the door and nobody did anything

Before I of course blasted said suspect with my shotgun

[wild trellis]

I one time was rushing to kill the last guy in relapse he held a man hostage I was to late he shot him the moment I pulled out my gun

[rocky socket]

Anybody else have a problem where the ai teammates get stuck at one part of the containers in that warehouse in hide and seek

The containers that hold the auction to be specific

[gaunt holly]

Opposite for me. I found this map the most boring

Very nice map design, but everything nice about it was completely underutilized

[harsh edge]

@gaunt holly

Sls senpai

[wild trellis]

Was school shooting the only controversial thing ready or not has done ?

[harsh edge]

Neon tomb drew some controversy too

[wild trellis]

It’s based off a real shooting I think?

[harsh edge]

In the same sense elephant is

Where details from several irl incidents form one fictional one

[wild trellis]

Idk how VoD is not highly controversial

[sinful forge]

The fact that it takes place in a nightclub is kinda where the inspiration starts and ends

[harsh edge]

But Neon Tomb was to launch in the anniversary of Pulse iirc

[boreal ore]

Bluey :0

[harsh edge]

Which was a shit storm, as you can imagine

[wild trellis]

I mean it’s a swat game and I think they did it to raise awareness of the incding idk

[hardy canopy]

Yikes

[harsh edge]

I stop short of giving them the credit of saying it was about awareness. You can't have a game about Police/SWAT and not talk about the worst kinds of things we respond to, which tends to be mass shootings.

They did a very ugly topic very tastefully

But it didn't raise awareness of anything.

[sinful forge]

If you thought that was something you should go check the New this Week page on nexusmods

[boreal ore]

Please tell me it's a Bluey mod. I'm also stoked if there's something about femtanyl.

[pliant briar]

how is elephant controversial when the worst thing you can do there is shoot adults, genuinely

[sinful forge]

Me when I throw cheese at bystanders to “raise awareness” that it’s possible to throw cheese at people.

[wild trellis]

Because it’s a school shooting

It was also based off a real shooting

The bombs and hostages makes all sense

My teacher was also in that school shooting so

[harsh edge]

Because the overarching narrative is based on columbine

[sinful forge]

Yes and if only

[wild trellis]

Ye my teacher was in that shooting.

[harsh edge]

With a cowardly SRO ala Parkland

[wild trellis]

Her brother was on the hotlist of the shooters

[harsh edge]

A college campus from Virginia Tech

[wild trellis]

Tbh they should do the south Hollywood shooting

[harsh edge]

The only unrealistic thing about elephant is the number of shooters

[wild trellis]

That would be an epic mission

The north Hollywood shootout I mean

[harsh edge]

A modern north Hollywood shootout would be over very, very quickly

[wild trellis]

That shootout imo is absolutely insanely fun to learn about

Okay ngl the robbers looked insanely hard 💀

[harsh edge]

The biggest reasons it was such a cluster is because patrol rifles, Mozambique drills and other rifle training weren't common outside of swat

[sinful forge]

Imagine there was like a Hollywood shootout level, you and the team versus just two final boss tier guys

[wild trellis]

North Hollywood shootout is an incredible story

[boreal ore]

They're getting dropped faster than a sack of potatoes.

[wild trellis]

Or they should add the joker bank heist to the game hehe

[sinful forge]

Two SA-58 bullets:

[wild trellis]

I wonder if void js makes this for fun and be like yayaya more levels or they liek this is real world shit you need to see

[pliant briar]

no clue how out of touch is what i'm about to say, but i don't really get how these things are so controversial if they happen more than once a day (as in i get that it is a tragedy for the people involved, but not really sure where's the controversy when it's fairly common)

[wild trellis]

Bc primarily it’s video games and knowing what people can and will do makes it bad

Like they can make it look fun or goofy

[pliant briar]

and for that reason you're shooting adults

which is funny that it's where the line is drawn, like killing adults is any better

[wild trellis]

Shooting kids in a game is something I have never seen before

[pliant briar]

it happened before but it's rare

[heavy briar]

I got about 26hrs on this game and mainly it’s me trying to figure out a good controller setting or binding keys anyone got any good preset configurations or any help?

[pliant briar]

from my most recent memory far cry 6 had that

even cod had that allegedly

[sinful forge]

That one game clip with the child soldiers getting dunked on, not sure what game that was though

[wild trellis]

Mw19

And mw2 no Russian is also extremely controversial

[gaunt holly]

Was strange bc playing it as a kid, I thought nothing of it. Then years later as an adult, it is widely known as one of the most controversial moments in gaming history

[harsh edge]

I like how Japan did censoring no russian

If you shoot civilians it game overs

I don't support censorship period but I think that was actually pretty legit

[pliant briar]

my autism doesn't really get it

[harsh edge]

Tbh playing no Russian now it is pretty gut wrenching when you go to look at the small details about it

[wild trellis]

You used to think your the good guys

[gaunt holly]

The innocence of gaming as a child. Just trying to beat the dang campaign

[wild trellis]

I still play the campaign and I do shoot the civilians still

I get to trigger happy 💀

[harsh edge]

Nah, teenage me didn't understand videogames as artistic expression, they were just fun then

[boreal ore]

Speaking of art. When is the streamer AI art getting replaced.

[harsh edge]

UwU

[hardy canopy]

Never

[pliant briar]

really confused rn

[gaunt holly]

Same

[harsh edge]

Sls chan is a smackonite

[leaden pasture]

I'm about to purchase this game. Is it any good? I read a review that said the AI is kind of dumb. Will the developers fix it? The game seems pretty good in my eyes. 🤔

Also hello chat

[gaunt holly]

It's a good game. Complaints about AI are 100% a result of skill issue

[wild trellis]

Your swat team AI is extremely smart

[boreal ore]

They couldn't pay an artist to draw for them? Instead just resorting to AI slop?

[nova stratus]

game good. better with people. AI can be derpy but what AI isn't derpy to an extent?

[wild trellis]

Your AI will kill and clear the level for you

Also I like commanding a squad

[boreal ore]

Yup, it's up to you to utilize them correctly. Rather than bum rushing a room.

[hardy canopy]

It kinda fits the theme of the map if i'm honest

[boreal ore]

And getting domed.

[nova stratus]

Same but I'm genuinely ass at managing them separately.

[wild trellis]

I make them clear rooms when it’s js one enemy they will give up

I’ll also have them breach and clear when multiple in the room

I usually keep them all together

Rarely have them split

They also are extremely good at finding people and evidence

[hardy canopy]

I'll be honest, having a random new player with you is twice more useful than the AI

[gaunt holly]

No reason to split. Team is already so small

[wild trellis]

It also is rlly sad when you lose a man

[boreal ore]

It's better to have your whole element clear the room.

[gaunt holly]

I disagree. Swat AI is 100% better than randos

[wild trellis]

Swat Ai I feel more connected in the game tbh

It’s your men and they are your responsibility

[hardy canopy]

Swat AI doesn't do shit on it's own

[wild trellis]

Yes it does it cleared the entire outside of a building once

[gaunt holly]

It's called commander mode for a reason 🤓

[boreal ore]

I wonder what kind of AI did they even get... My team is pretty independent.

[leaden pasture]

soooo I can play solo right? I want to feel the stress playing this game

[wild trellis]

I choose commander over randos one I feel way more connected as they are my responsibility and you can command them and they will get shit some

[boreal ore]

You can leave your team behind.

[gaunt holly]

Solo is fine, yeah

[hardy canopy]

Look i don't wanna tell them to do absolutely everything. I should be the team leader, not giving them basic training in the middle of a situation

[wild trellis]

Also having them die has consequences unlike other games they come back

[wild trellis]

You lead them for a reason they listen to you for a reason your more experienced

[gaunt holly]

Skill issue

[wild trellis]

So make them do their jobs

They basically are there to protect your life and get the job done

[nova stratus]

Not all evidence. The "hidden" objectives they don't do anything with. They seem to always miss a gun or so. They will simply refuse to pick up dropped weapons sometimes. I can't quite figure out how to chain commands together. Like, stack, wand, pick the lock if necessary.

[hardy canopy]

A big problem with the AI is pathing tbh. They will never hold useful angles after breaching a room

[wild trellis]

Mine will do it without me even asking

[hardy canopy]

Rather just pick a random spot to sit in

[wild trellis]

Mine are the exact opposite 💀

[nova stratus]

So yours wand without being ordered to?

[wild trellis]

I must of discovered life

[wild trellis]

No I have to order them to wand duh

[gaunt holly]

You're most likely over extending before issuing a new command

[wild trellis]

But they will hold angels and breach sometimes without me asking

[boreal ore]

Weird, the AI covers open corridors, doors, etc.

[hardy canopy]

I'm not overextending if i'm in the middle of the room they are holding securing the suspects and civis myself because whenever i ask my AI to do that it won't

[gaunt holly]

And they do not just stand in random places when you tell them to breach. They actually do a very clean breach and entry if you stand back and watch

It's textbook

[boreal ore]

Really just get out of their way and act as the support.

[rigid stone]

Anyone what is the dlc name for more uniforms

[boreal ore]

Follow them once they're in, be sure to watch your back.

[hardy canopy]

Yeah sure, they surely won't get themselves killed half the time

[rigid stone]

Anyone what is the dlc name for more uniforms

[wild trellis]

Your Ai is not bad at all you js don’t know how to command them

My AI will get the job done and kill and detain people without orders

[gaunt holly]

They really don't. Like I mentioned before. You're most likely over extending

[hardy canopy]

If you tell them to flash or launcher a room the AI will do it to the most inconvenient spot possible

[boreal ore]

My AI is literally a kill team, they drop anyone that happens to have a gun pointed at them.

[wild trellis]

Same lmao

They also can identify people really fast

[hardy canopy]

Yeah my men get mowed down by a single suspect

[wild trellis]

Like if I can’t find someone I will send them out and boom they find them

[wild trellis]

Mine tank hits

Ones face was all bloodied and was an absolute chad and Js walked it off

[hardy canopy]

Also they seem to be fucking unable to hit their shots ever

[wild trellis]

My men are like John wick 💀

Holy shit they can shoot better than me

[hardy canopy]

Unless it's a vip ofc. That's when they will dome them

[gaunt holly]

They can breach and clear perfectly fine. Are you sure we're playing the same game?

[wild trellis]

He js doesn’t know how to command men

Your men are your responsibility take care of them

Don’t do stupid moves

Like your men say stupid actions stupid prizes

[boreal ore]

If you don't like how they throw flashes in the room. There's always "Open/Breach, Leader, Clear."

[hardy canopy]

I know

[boreal ore]

You can toss the thing yourself.

[hardy canopy]

But then again, what the hell do i need them for

[gaunt holly]

#🎬ron-clips-and-media message

Example of AI clearing a room by themselves after I miss all my shots

[hardy canopy]

Pretty much the only actually useful scenario is when there are multiple suspects surrendering and you have to make sure they don't get up while you arrest another

But one man is enough for that

[tired spruce]

brought the game, its so good i wish it was real

[wild trellis]

To protect you

They literally do anything for you 💀

Send them into a highly contested area

They walk in and kill tjem

They pretty damn useful

Also make the missions a lot quicker

[hardy canopy]

Well that was one clusterfuck of a situation

[gaunt holly]

I've also cleared the entire car dealership map doing nothing but issuing AI commands bc that map tanked my fps. I didn't fire a single shot

[gaunt holly]

No, it wasn't. Pretty basic entry

[wild trellis]

That is what I did 💀

They killed everyone in 5 mins

[hardy canopy]

It would've been if your gun didn't get stuck on the door frame twice

[night oxide]

The goons do not hesitate whatsoever

"Were at it baws!!"

[gaunt holly]

AI still went in and took care of the threat

[hardy canopy]

Sure

[gaunt holly]

I don't understand where the disagreement is

They went in and cleared that side of the room

[hardy canopy]

I'm not saying they didn't

[wild trellis]

The AI are like humans beings dude

They are better than you 💀

They are hella better than me

[hardy canopy]

Well that is highly debatable

[gaunt holly]

Exactly. Except they listen to you 🤭

You tell them what to do, and they do it. Doesn't apply to humans most of the time

[boreal ore]

The AI sometimes have their stupid moments. I'm not arguing against that, but it rarely happens to me, well. To me at least.

[hardy canopy]

My main problem is that they don't actively look for work if i don't issue a command every 10 seconds.

[gaunt holly]

Bc they're not supposed to

You're one element. The brain is the team leader

[hardy canopy]

Actual humans do that tho

[runic aspen]

The game is really easy, especially if you don't aim to play realistically and run and gun.
You essentially can't die unless you throw since you for some reason can tank several shots compared to your enemies tanking 1 or 2, sometimes 3.

[hardy canopy]

If i see an open threshold that no one else is watching i will hold it myself

The AI just doesn't

[wild trellis]

Tbh I take my AI pretty seriously like I smash my desk when one dies

[pliant briar]

people when swat ai doesn't do anything you haven't told them to do: bad
people when swat ai does things on their own: also bad

[wild trellis]

Exactly

[boreal ore]

Weird, the moment I opened the door two element members switched their priority to that open door.

[gaunt holly]

AI is really good at holding flanks... Are you sure you're playing RON?

[hardy canopy]

I'm pretty sure i'm playing ron

[gaunt holly]

Very interesting

[runic aspen]

The main problem I've noticed is them either dying, or killing suspects you're meant to arrest.

If they just prioritize using non lethals on their own and fall back for a second before repeeking when fired upon it would solve one of the issues rather easily.

[hardy canopy]

That would just increase the amount of times they would die

[pliant briar]

no, devs added non lethal just to completely forget about it when swat ai is involved

canon event

[runic aspen]

No, non-lethals are just as good normal weaponry.

[pliant briar]

also if you give them lethal guns they will use them as they should

because that's what would happen irl

[hardy canopy]

I disagree. They are never as reliable

[pliant briar]

beanbag is more reliable than lead tbh

[gaunt holly]

Simply is skill issue, TBQH

[pliant briar]

at least when comparing a single discharge

[hardy canopy]

Beanbags will always stagger a suspect that isn't alerted

But not always if they are actively shooting at you

[runic aspen]

I agree to disagree, whatever works best for you.

[hardy canopy]

The amount of time it takes to rack another round can be the difference between life and death

[gaunt holly]

Just play whatever is fun. If lethal is no fun for you, then go non lethal and vice versa

[plucky dirge]

how could lethal not be fun

[hardy canopy]

Idk

[pliant briar]

why aren't you sleeping

[plucky dirge]

i got vacation playin tarkob

[pliant briar]

sincere condolences

isn't it a bit early for vacations though

[hardy canopy]

They actually got fired

Just doesn't wanna admit

[plucky dirge]

nah

i also asked for a higher position that opened up

hoping i get accepted!!!

[hardy canopy]

Crazy

Good luck on it

[hardy canopy]

Mmmehh i will always bring a lethal primary but i try my absolute best to resolve every interaction by non/less lethal means

This way i will basically never fire more than 40 or so rounds of 556

[wild trellis]

Swat Ai is my best fren

I cry when they died

[hardy canopy]

You could just solo the map to protect them yk

Daddy judge protecting his little children

As they are yet to develop sharp survival instincts

[gaunt holly]

All part of the game. As the team leader, you're responsible for the lives of your teammates. Gotta take care of the AI 🥺

[timber night]

my AI was in a firefight and they moved out of the way so i got shot and died

[hardy canopy]

They will do that if they are on their way to somewhere

[wild trellis]

Bro this math hw is so damn hard

HOLY SHIT

[harsh edge]

At this point it's not police vs fire anymore it's all of us against those CNAs that call themselves nurses on their dating profiles

[zealous raven]

Sorry wrong send

[wild trellis]

I must say playboi carti is the goat

[restive saddle]

somone maybe want to help a noob (me) to get b+ on valley of the dolls?

[placid island]

Mod io mods aren't working, when I launch the game outside of safe mode, it crashes.

Please help

[modest fern]

Stop downloading broken mods

#❓modding-faq

[somber cave]

Hi

[harsh edge]

UwU

[wild trellis]

I got an A without help you got this

[dense aspen]

@restive saddle do you still need help?

[zealous raven]

We don't use mod.io smh

[placid island]

How do I mod the game then? I'm new

[dense aspen]

Nexus mods

[placid island]

I tried and it didn't work

Do I need a loader or modmanager

[dense aspen]

I don't know anything beyond the answer i gave, but i wish you good luck regardless

[placid island]

Or do I delete mod io data and only keep the nexusmods mods

[quaint owl]

modio is pretty bad im my experience

nexusmods just work so stick with them

[harsh edge]

SMH my head

[thin karma]

finally finished getting all the S ranks

[cinder fiber]

Including dlcs?

[thin karma]

ye

did it all with ai team mates

[quaint owl]

there are literally no australian communites to play ron

[swift hull]

Why is it that when aiming, enemies perpendicular to me don’t seem to register if I rotate while moving

[wild trellis]

Good night guys

May your men protect you well

[harsh edge]

I activate my spell card, Monster Reborn 🥺

[languid light]

Does the game have asian servers?

[modest fern]

The game is peer to peer

[wicked quarry]

when you host a game your device is the server, connection for others tends to be better if you're geographically close

[languid light]

Oh so it would make sense if I play with frnd

[wicked quarry]

Yeah youll be fine

[cursive hatch]

The second hardest mission for me was the one with the vets in the woods

[cursive hatch]

I struggled a lot with that one

[wicked quarry]

Havent done that i think

[cursive hatch]

o

i thought it was like the fourth mission..?

[wicked quarry]

It is?

[cursive hatch]

im not sure

i thought it was around that area

[wicked quarry]

Is rhat the one with the crack house in the woods

W the traps

[cursive hatch]

its the one with the one house in the wilderness

[wicked quarry]

and dudes making meth

[cursive hatch]

yea, they have the barbed wire they squeeze thru and stuf

[wicked quarry]

i got gassed irl idk why they avt up so much w cs gas

😎

[cursive hatch]

dam

CS gas is peak strategy

just gas every small room and boom ur the only people that can breathe easy with gas masks

[wicked quarry]

Cant use it in war but you can use it on locals‼️‼️‼️

[cursive hatch]

true..

it's not the gas that kills tho

erm

I think

[wicked quarry]

7.62 to the chest

[cursive hatch]

actually on second thought i dunno if that's actually a thing

[wicked quarry]

i use the mk17

my favorite rifle

[cursive hatch]

i use mk18

and alpha and charlie have mp5s cause they in the front usually

alpha also has a shield

and they all have gas masks

i also have one with a snake cam

me when double snake cam the door

[wicked quarry]

i never use it tbh

[cursive hatch]

dam

It can be pretty useful

so you kinda know what to expect when walkin in the room

[wicked quarry]

I get more nonlethals with the mk17

[cursive hatch]

W

my squad was using pepperballs for a while

UNTIL i got to valley of the dolls today

[wicked quarry]

i also just like using 7.62

[wicked quarry]

I just killed every armed guy in that level

Unless they surrendured

Surrender?

Forgot how to spell it

[cursive hatch]

yea but it's hard when there's like 6 in an area and some of them are just standing there with their hands up or their gun in their hands

[gaunt holly]

Sr16 #1

[wild trellis]

Ye have fun bud

They don’t comply

[wicked quarry]

I also like SA-58

[cursive hatch]

i just beat it after seven attempts 💀

[wild trellis]

Also have fun in that disgusting basement

[wicked quarry]

police brutality=police pragmatism

[wild trellis]

Lowkey the most fuked up thing ever

[cursive hatch]

true

[wicked quarry]

I found the dude in the basement

[wild trellis]

Neon graveyard is also so fuked

[wicked quarry]

Like cmon dude you incriminated yourself being in front of them pics

[wild trellis]

Ready or Not has to be one of the darkest games I have ever played

[cursive hatch]

the entire basement basically: 😲 😦 😲 🤨 🫢

[wild trellis]

Basement made me sad

Bc that shit goes on irl

It’s the hard reality of this world

Also when you get to relapse you need to move fast

They will take hostages and kill tjem if you don’t get there on time

[cursive hatch]

dam

[wicked quarry]

Yo beni are the dlcs worth it

[wild trellis]

Very worth it imo

[cursive hatch]

me when I just want to raid terrorists houses

[wild trellis]

They are extremely different

[wicked quarry]

okay ill hold you to it

[wild trellis]

Also new ai feature

[wicked quarry]

I realised i forgot to the mbps one

[wild trellis]

They will kill the hostages without you knowing

[wicked quarry]

Im gonna kill these redditors💪💯

[wild trellis]

Also the men will grab innocents and shoot them on the spot

So you need to move fast

[wicked quarry]

RoN ISIS expansion when?

[wild trellis]

What level you on?

For RoN

[wicked quarry]

I just finished rust belt

[wild trellis]

And after that one is elephant right,

Okay here is some advice

Kill everyone you see all the gunmen

They will not comply it’s very hard to do so

[wicked quarry]

Oh i know

[wild trellis]

And immediately find the bombs

[wicked quarry]

Suits=Kill on Sight

[wild trellis]

The bombs will kill your entire team

I lost my best men in that level

[cursive hatch]

RIP 🙏

[wild trellis]

This is one of the few games

Where your actions have consequences

Permanent consequences

You make stupid decisions your men will die

[wicked quarry]

Ngl i just play quick play

[wild trellis]

Play commander it’s way more immersive and you feel more connected with the game

You have men you need to take care of your responsible for them

They will also do anything for you

[wicked quarry]

This game is super fun on steam deck

Reminds me of my old psp playing socom

[cursive hatch]

the only time i played multiplayer it was a goofy modded lobby that added like 100 hostiles to the first mission so it was basically just a warzone

[wild trellis]

IMO I like commander more bc I feel more connected as I have more responsibilities to do. I also like having my men with me and they actually will kick ass

[gaunt holly]

Multiplayer experience is really a roll of the dice unless you have your own group lol

[wild trellis]

I only play multiplayer rarely

[wicked quarry]

I ❤️ shooting surrendering gunmen from the comfort of my bed

[wild trellis]

Hey SLS welcome back

[wild trellis]

💀

[gaunt holly]

👋

[wicked quarry]

some dude ranting about jehovas witness theology

[gaunt holly]

That guy has been at it for years. He's basically ron lore

[wild trellis]

Judge

Who is he!?

[gaunt holly]

WatchMenOnTV

[wild trellis]

Is he a superhuman

Is he a god

Is he in purgatory

[gaunt holly]

Perhaps

[wild trellis]

Is he js a regular man like us all

Who is js tryna do what is right

[wicked quarry]

It runs on repeat i think

[wild trellis]

Tbh I think he is in purgatory

[wicked quarry]

Jehovas Witnesses are easy to spot, their theology is wack

[wild trellis]

Judge can’t die his men can but there is infinite of them

[wild trellis]

They are weird basically they will killl them selves than have modern medicine

[wicked quarry]

Christian Science type beat

[wild trellis]

I’m Catholic

We find them weird

[wicked quarry]

Christian Science is unrelated to christianity they just use the name

[wild trellis]

Scientology is fuckingg weird dude 😭

[wicked quarry]

islamic sects from the olden times are wildwr

Can i post a Screenshot from wikipedia

Wait can you help me w something @wild trellis

[wicked quarry]

I checked and i did that already, i have tp do sins of the father

[gaunt holly]

That's a fun map. One of my favorites

[wicked quarry]

why can i play the dlc missions in mp but now i bought them and have to download them

[modest fern]

cause that's not how the dlc works

[wicked quarry]

Can you help me with Something

[gaunt holly]

Perhaps

[wicked quarry]

I randomly stopped getting score messages at the bottom a while ago, line the evidence secured/unauthorized use of force etc

How do i fix it

[gaunt holly]

I'm not sure. I don't really know much about the game tbh

[wicked quarry]

darn

[gaunt holly]

I bet it's something in your settings though

[wicked quarry]

the use of force thing is arbitrary anyway, some dude shot me and i killed him, got an unauthorized use of deadly force thing

wasnt even casualty checking him

[gaunt holly]

It's possible that he started his surrender animation. But who knows

Player vs code

[wicked quarry]

my favorite are fake dead dudes

Or fake surrender

[gaunt holly]

Yeah, they're fun. Wish they happened more tbh

[wicked quarry]

my friend and i played earlier and he shot 5 civillians

[gaunt holly]

Your friend needs to be called out for his lack of skill

[wicked quarry]

Should i play home invasion or dark waters first

[wicked quarry]

hes brand new, he didnt after that

[gaunt holly]

Nice

Both are good DLCs. Dark water has some cooler detailed maps, but nothing wrong with home invasion either

[wicked quarry]

Only 3 missions each?

[gaunt holly]

Yep

[wicked quarry]

gonna start working a second job to afford this

[gaunt holly]

Home invasion is 40% off rn on steam

It's $6

[wicked quarry]

yeah i bought them both already

[gaunt holly]

Then you don't need a second job to play this 😂

[wicked quarry]

Clearly i do because i just bought em

need to get promoted

[gaunt holly]

It's a one time payment of $15 for both DLC's lol, but stay on that grind king 👑 😂

[wicked quarry]

im only an e 2 im not rolling in money yet

[gaunt holly]

The money will come. You'll do fine 👍 👑

[wicked quarry]

LMAO THIS DLC IS HILARIOUS ITS JUST KILLING THE HOMELESS

[gaunt holly]

The other two maps are more fun

[wicked quarry]

I ❤️ JHP

War crime but legal for cops example #2

[tough breach]

narcos was great imo, even tho the suspects are bugged lol

the new factions for both dlcs are cool too, I hope they expand on the military dudes in 3 letter triad, maybe alongside the MLO again

[gusty stump]

Curious... how are they bugged?

[tough breach]

supposedly their loadouts arent correct. I forgot the exact issue but its something to do with the armor of some of them being incorrect

like either unarmoreds being armored or the other way around I cant remember

[gusty stump]

Alright then lol.

[tough breach]

so not really a huge deal. It plays like youd expect and the ”vibe” and premise of the map is really cool

[gusty stump]

Yeah, its not bad map by any means.

[tough breach]

quite the opposite honestly

I love it

[hexed condor]

is this game ever coming to ps5?

[tough breach]

Probably. Theyve not too long ago introduced controller support and have mentioned wanting to do a console release

[alpine moat]

Ready or Not releasing to the arcades

[muted kindle]

any basic guide to CQC/CQB in RON?

[dense python]

How to CQB
1- open the door
2- enter the room

[raven stream]

there are a couple of guides on Steam, amongst them:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3401845551

[muted kindle]

thank you kind sir

[muted kindle]

nah,
guide to CQB

1. See enemy
2. Shoot enemy
3. Repeat

[dense python]

🔥

[raven stream]

pleasure

[night oxide]

1.5 (optional) dont get hit

[hardy hawk]

option 2.5 (mandated) kill all innocents

[runic aspen]

Hi I'm looking for a French guy to play with me

[wanton musk]

#🔎looking-for-players

[molten mesa]

When you good at cqb but nerfed by bad laptop

[flat shadow]

anyone know why its keep crashing on the opening of leviathan mission ?

as soon as i deploy with the boat it crashes

[swift hull]

When you accidentally touch a piece of foil from the homeless guy and now you’re feeling more alert than usual

[left storm]

Maybe a question that you guys hear allot, but when there is coming support for the controller, is there a chance that it is coming to console?

[swift hull]

They added controller support last update I’m pretty sure

[left storm]

Yeah sorry i see now, Wel based on my question and that controller support is there, any chance for the console people?

[swift hull]

Prob not lol

[quiet fulcrum]

I swear someone asks about controller support and console release every day

[open pier]

Anyone wanna play in eu?

[dense python]

Will they release ready or not in consoles?

🦈

[midnight lake]

They should release a Nintendo switch version

[sweet eagle]

quick question guys but are there ever more than 4 suspects on the elephant mission?

[solid cape]

Always 4

[tough breach]

always exactly 4

[sweet eagle]

thanks

i was wondering if my mods were fuckign with it

[fair yacht]

should I buy this game

[smoky vault]

yes

[tight magnet]

yes

how many y'all got Elephant S rank?

[gentle coyote]

That was the hardest one but I got it

[tight magnet]

Judge Pugden

honestly i'm surprised you got an S rank with your pfp /j

[gentle coyote]

First person to get that

[tight magnet]

War is God
Man desireth war

i'm not a fan, but

[gentle coyote]

Any civilian that exists without my knowlege, exists without my consent

[tight magnet]

XD

also the game seems to be easier since the patch

i see all the older posts complain about shit i've never even seen or faced

[stable salmon]

Def not hardest s

[tacit hazel]

Hey guys, how can we call vote to finish the mission ?

[dense python]

When you complete the objectives

[tacit hazel]

ok thankss

[eager lance]

will dark waters go on sale anytime soon? i mean its pretty new so

[lilac vale]

You'll have to wait until next major steam sale in that case

[eager lance]

yeah figured

il just stick with the home invasion then

i got another question, why is the ping so high everytime i join my friend or he joins me

and my discord fucks up everytime i go in a match online too

[fallen sail]

maybe your ISP is capping your connection speed

[wild trellis]

Morning People

[worn leaf]

Morning

[eager lance]

i mean every other game is fine

[fallen sail]

Is your friend in the same country as you?

[solid cape]

They also using steam P2P?

[eager lance]

yuh
and its not only with him

in general, it seems that every match i join the ping just says its always 160ms

[eager lance]

yeah he's also using steam

[fallen sail]

does it happen even without discord?

[eager lance]

well i havent really played multiplayer without being in a call, but, can discord really be causing this much ping in this specific game...?

[fallen sail]

no idea maybe give it a try

try disabling hardware acceleration on discord aswell

[eager lance]

yeah i always got that disabled

[fallen sail]

good

could be something downloading in the background, it could be a bunch of stuff

[eager lance]

maybe its a problem cause of my region idk

[fallen sail]

if you're in the same region as your friends there shouldn't be a problem

[eager lance]

ah shit... peer to peer connection...

[fallen sail]

yeah ron uses steam's P2P servers

[eager lance]

yeah well thats probably the reason lol, me and my friend dont really have good internet, the whole country has p shitty internet ...

[pliant briar]

technically it's a VPN

[pliant briar]

and its purpose is to relay your connection, mostly to reduce the risk of bad routing and not leaking your ip (as a bonus)

[wanton musk]

https://tenor.com/view/chill-guy-chill-guy-just-a-chill-guy-relax-gif-1579445140409713118

[pliant briar]

and technically... if there's a server, it can't be p2p

[bleak fern]

are there any devs here. we need open mic option. its more realistic and makes the game better

[pliant briar]

you can already talk in the game

[bleak fern]

no but open mic not press to talk

[pliant briar]

open mic in a public multiplayer is a terrible idea

[bleak fern]

why?

[pliant briar]

why does anyone need to hear you wheeze?

[bleak fern]

in real life squads dont press to talk, just talk

your not a dev, im not gonna debate

[pliant briar]

why does it matter if the dev will say the exact same thing

it's been discussed here like 1000 times

[wanton musk]

Feel free to leave something in a feedback channel

[bleak fern]

your not a dev brother

[pliant briar]

[wanton musk]

Yes I'm aware? The the devs don't tend to interact here, but they do read the #1050529506022137876

[bleak fern]

ok thanks shibuya, i will use the feedback reports, i want to improve our game

[wanton musk]

[rigid bone]

Our mods do help us direct people to the feedback chat though. :>

Open mics in games are awful, though

[worn leaf]

yes

Welp I just killed a man with the beanbag

[plucky plover]

Is the school map an actual thing?

[dusty sparrow]

cant laucnh RON on Direct X 12 anymore it just crashes ?

[wanton musk]

Pls don't use this server for that

[wanton musk]

It's a uni/college but yah it's there :P

[plucky plover]

😨

What's the mission for

Active shooter?

Or drugs

[wanton musk]

mhm

[solid cape]

What about safemode?

[plucky plover]

Oh wow

[dusty sparrow]

yes it launches in clean mode

even though i wiped all mods and verified integrity even updated bios

[solid cape]

Mods issue #❓modding-faq message

[worn leaf]

Drivers up-to-date?

[spring thistle]

2+3=?

[stable vapor]

LVAR or GA416?

[vocal bobcat]

I was js tryna be nice?

I don’t need it bruh…

[pliant briar]

GA416 is one of the worst weapons you can use in this game

[stable vapor]

How would you rate Lvar tho? Build in suppresor good for small spaces

[pliant briar]

from a pure min-maxing perspective ARN18 is better as suppressor is mostly a gimmick

[wanton musk]

Yes ik, but to avoid scams we don't allow that, it's part of rule 8

[pliant briar]

but iirc lvar is the second shortest suppressed rifle

so if you're into suppressors, that should be good enough

[vocal bobcat]

That’s how yk u a discord mod bruh “rule 8🤓”

[pliant briar]

DDM4 is the shortest when suppressed i think

[wanton musk]

The scams are frequent

[stable vapor]

Whats the number one? Sorry for asking so many questions.

[vocal bobcat]

How am I gonna scam someone if it’s free huh?

[pliant briar]

oh wait, it's integrally suppressed

[pliant briar]

DM4PDW, shortest suppressed rifle, but with a slightly higher recoil

[torn breach]

im ngl these updates have butchered the modding community

[pliant briar]

no updates would kill the game instead :P

[stable vapor]

What AR you reccomend using?

[pliant briar]

ARN18 or LVAR

the former is better overall, the latter looks better and is shorter when suppressed (higher recoil though)

[solid cape]

If you want easy recoil control take G36C, F90, MCX, ARN18, G51, G3A3 with sfmb and vertical/th grip

[pliant briar]

or use gunfighter mod which makes recoil irrelevant

[hardy canopy]

it's not

the handguard is just slightly over the standard muzzle device

which means when you remove it to thread on a suppressor it will also start under the handguard

[pliant briar]

ok

[hardy canopy]

i think the DDM4 loses it's whole point if you smack the suppressor on it tho

as it significantly increases the length

[hardy canopy]

because the gun is so short and most users will have their hand positioned as far on the handguard as possible, the muzzle device will direct the blast forwards to protect... yk, the shooters fingers

that is why you'll mostly find these funny looking things on pdw's

[pliant briar]

to be fair it looks like a suppressor

[umbral mist]

Guysss

Any tips for elephant mission?

It's driving me crazy 😂

[plucky dirge]

just don’t die lol

[umbral mist]

I mean it's not about that

[pliant briar]

how do you even fail elephant

[umbral mist]

They kill hostages too quickly

[pliant briar]

its the easiest map

[solid cape]

You trying to get S grade?

[hardy canopy]

kinda yeah

[umbral mist]

Yeah

And i think I gonna give up

😵‍💫

[plucky dirge]

Give up then

Make Judge go work a blue collar job

So he can see real horrors for once

[pliant briar]

inside of people's homes?

[plucky dirge]

You wouldn’t get it

[umbral mist]

Lol

[solid cape]

If you using beanbag/vpl with steel plates swap it to m320 flash/stinger and ceramic plates, dont secure anyone, let swat ai to do it

[umbral mist]

Let's try

[tight magnet]

you're either lucky, or lying

i had 1 good seed. every other time they executed 1 civ before i even got to the second part of the building

[umbral mist]

Fr

[pliant briar]

skill issue

they never even started shooting civs for me

[umbral mist]

I think that there should be more time before they start to execute civilians

[pliant briar]

there is

[umbral mist]

Like a minute?

Idk but it happens really quick

Or like you said, skill issue XD

[solid cape]

2 min + 10-20 sec to secure only 4 suspects

[umbral mist]

I gotta be quick then

Really quick

[pliant briar]

nuh uh, you should take your time in active shooter scenario

[solid cape]

Make sure you always use low-ready to move fast

[pliant briar]

they will wait for you

[tight magnet]

@umbral mist i'm also trying to S Rank it

we can do it together if you're on EU

[tight magnet]

it's honestly random, i had a run where they haven't killed a single one, and had one where they executed 3 in like 2 minutes

[umbral mist]

I am

[tight magnet]

great, hop on EU 5

[umbral mist]

A sec please, i need some coffee

[tight magnet]

no hurry, i posted an ad on #🔎looking-for-players

we should probably wait for 5 players

[umbral mist]

And plz don't get mad at me if i fuck it up 😂

[tight magnet]

each takes a room with 1 suspect

[umbral mist]

Sounds good

Should we use heavy armor?

[tight magnet]

hop on vc

[torn breach]

im not saying updates are bad for the game although, i feel like there are definitely ways to update a game without having to break a multitude of mods. Prior to the home invasion update there were THOUSANDS of mods and now just about 80% or hell, even more dont even work anymore or arent being updated by their original authors anymore. dont get me wrong, i love the updates that void brings and the lore that ties within ready or not itself, although when you sink hundreds of hours into a game it gets stale, quickly, and one way out of that is through modding.

[pliant briar]

technically ron doesnt even support mods officially

[torn breach]

theres literally a modding section as soon as you open the game

connected through mod.io

please tell me youre kidding

[pliant briar]

no, because mod support is different to being mod-friendly

every game can be modded, but that doesn't mean every game has mod support

[fallen sail]

Promoting and allowing mods isn't equivalent to mod support in other words

Mod support would be tools, easy integrations with UI designed for them etc.

[pliant briar]

^

[torn breach]

nevertheless any of this useless information doesnt contradict what i previously said, these updates have been butchering the modding community.

[fallen sail]

I think you need to put gunfighter down and just play the game, mods are still being made for the game, REALLY cool mods are still being made for the game and old mods are still being updated

[torn breach]

i dont play with gunfighter

[fallen sail]

The updates butchered nothing

[pliant briar]

not devs fault modders don't update their mods

it's not like they made it impossible to update their mods

[torn breach]

many cosmetic mods are gone, many VO mods do not work as normal, i could go on

[fair yacht]

w game

[torn breach]

scripts, maps, et cetera. its a cool fucking game dont get me wrong, but my statement still stands.

[fallen sail]

While it can be disgruntling to have to go back and update mods it's the price you pay for actually updating how a game works

There aren't ways to "update it without breaking mods" outside of implementing MOD SUPPORT

And even then, mods might break

[gaunt holly]

Vanilla #1

[torn breach]

its like youre trying to change my perspective and my statement

but im still out here preaching that these updates are butchering the modding community

[fallen sail]

"I feel like there are definetly ways to update a game without having to break a multitude of mods" are literally your words

[harsh edge]

🥺

[torn breach]

prior to the home invasion update there were updates that did not break every single mod

[fallen sail]

And i'm telling you that no, updating the game's systems can not be done without breaking a multitude of mods

[torn breach]

https://tenor.com/view/freshleb-egg-live-reaction-gif-17284652704169710927

[harsh edge]

What even is this perspective, you understand in every game with a modding scene major title updates break mods because mods need to be made to function with certain major versions of the game in question

[pliant briar]

embed fail

[harsh edge]

You're objectively wrong. we're not trying to change your mind, we're informing you that your opinion isn't factual.

And none of us really care how you feel about the fact that you're wrong, it doesn't make you less wrong.

[torn breach]

that doesnt necessicarily account for EVERY single mod

i could be talking about voice over mods or mods that change ambient sounds

[fallen sail]

what the f-
yes, not all mods break because not all of the systems change

[torn breach]

although, none of those work as well its crazy right

[harsh edge]

If a mod relies on a certain part of the game/game files, that game section/file being updated in a major title update will break it.

[torn breach]

no shit

[fallen sail]

Say VO mods for example, the file extension of the VO lines was changed to (probably) save space

That is what broke your VO mods

[pliant briar]

bro's idea of making an update not break mods is to not have any update whatsoever

[harsh edge]

The only way for mods to not be broken iin a game is for a game to not be updated 🤷‍♂️

[pliant briar]

every skyrim update broke a large amount of mods. did modding in that game die?

[fallen sail]

None of the original mods work on skyrim special edition

The only way to still have them work is to play on the old version

[pliant briar]

what are the odds most of them were updated to work on the newer version?

[harsh edge]

grim sending a whole ass essay so I'ma just bust this out rq

[gaunt holly]

Hit 'em with the Wump! Wump! Wumpus party! 🥳

[sly elk]

does anyone know good small maps to download and work?

[torn breach]

after the home invasion update there were hundreds of modders flocking to update their mods/ create new ones

now looking at the modding community its very small, quiet and kinda sad. there just arent as many authors as was.

also there was already an update prior to the home invasion that made all the voice over audios smaller in size converting them to a different file type. I have ambient sounds on each of the maps and a voice over for a character that consistently meshes the two voices together. there isnt any reason for void interactive to "update" or "change" whatever fucking ambient sound they had on mindjot idc what your explaination is

[harsh edge]

mindjot deez nuts

[torn breach]

i stand by my statement omm

[harsh edge]

[pliant briar]

a change broke some mods, therefore it was stupid even if it made sense to the devs. got it

[fallen sail]

Technically there isn't any reason for VOID to make any change to the game whatsoever, so yes

You are literally arguing against the game being updated

[gentle coyote]

Why doesn't TOC understand that I'm listening to Freebird and the civilian was meerly in the way?

[hardy canopy]

so sad

[torn breach]

yall are missing the point

[pliant briar]

devs could port the game to unity and what? they dont owe modders anything

[hardy canopy]

well.. the way i see it... nobody gives a fuck

[harsh edge]

INDIGO CHAN

🥺

[gentle coyote]

Do you think they'll ever add PVP?

[fallen sail]

VOID are making good changes to the systems and the backend aswell, if mods have to stop working for the game to run smoother, sound better, look better or even add more features so be it

[fallen sail]

I'm not gonna start crying because i can't dressup my barbie judge how i want

(for 1 week before the mod gets updated)

[glass mulch]

Ok folks thats enough

[ripe scarab]

If they do it's way in the future they of course had the early access PVP before. There's a new PVP mod on nexus though.

[fallen sail]

new pvp is super buggy though

[pliant briar]

shouldn't that be eman's job? :P

[gentle coyote]

I'm not really fluent in modding, never done it before

[harsh edge]

God I hope not the PVP community for tac shooters brings all sorts of shit RON doesn't need attached to with it. If they did hopefully it'll be extremely barebones like bringing back the shoot house with just a basic deathmatch mode

[ripe scarab]

Haven't tried it myself but it's something.

[gaunt holly]

Rule #1

• No being mean!

[glass mulch]

Lmao, hes not here rn.

[gentle coyote]

I remember playing battlefield hardline and I'd always go less lethal

[gaunt holly]

You're lucky mr. E-man isn't here 😡

[gentle coyote]

I'd love PvP where you'd still have to obide by engagement rules

[fallen sail]

eman is the only actual moderator change my mind

[glass mulch]

But still, thats enough.

[torn breach]

im all for updated from VOID and whatever they bring to ready or not, i like the lore and the storyline with ready or not. Its simply stated and i dont give a fuck what you think, the updates one way or another are butchering the modding community

[fallen sail]

That wouldn't work outside of roleplaying it

[harsh edge]

The community of "I would've been a soldier but I'd have punched a drill instructor/I would've been a cop but I can't pass the run" LARPers in this game is enough without adding pvp to it.

[torn breach]

i stand by my statement sorry king 👑

[hardy canopy]

the fuck is your job then smh

[fallen sail]

Nope

Sorry, you're just wrong, that's it

[gentle coyote]

Press F to yell and if they even look at you drop em, give swat better weapons & armour and have the only advantage the criminals get be defensive positions and the mercy of the law

[gaunt holly]

I'm only a mere junior weenie ☹️

[harsh edge]

Nothin tickles me more than joining some milsim voice chat and making them mad by revealing none of us actually talk like that and they sound bout sharp as bowling balls

[glass mulch]

pats

[gentle coyote]

But bowling balls are sharp? It hurt when I dropped one on my head

[ripe scarab]

You'll get there eventually just keep it up.

[torn breach]

after playing the game for hundreds of hours the game can quickly become stale and the modding community helps ease that by adding more versatility in gameplay and i can confidently tell you modding definitely isnt what it used to be in this game

[harsh edge]

gimme ink ribbon 🥺 🫴