#💬general-discussion
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Hey. I have a problem that whenever I try to start a match, the game suddenly freezes (on the loading screen). Can someone help me fix that? I've got that issue by the past few weeks.
Ah
Judge got sensitive eyes from lack of hugs
Looking into the sun is quite difficult
Does effect change if you equip change?
?
Shades
No. It’s part of the map. Flash goggles only help against Flashbangs.
Realistically there’s a only a very few specific angles where the sun shines directly into your soul though so you’ll be okay.
Shades just look cool.
if there are 2 guns shooting the same caliber do they deal the same damage or does it also depend on the gun?
Same caliber doesnt mean same bullet also barrel lenght can be a factor
does the game still have shitty optimization or was it finally fixed
The shitty optimization is bound to stay due to choice of engine
yea
not much out of customization butt he maps are so good
They're decent for a DLC. VOID did a great job giving them a slightly different feel
- npc cops on narcos....wow...
Alr I’ve always liked home invasion door breaches
Best addition out of everything
please add an option to highlight the laststand please
I want to sleep but I have an HDD being fully formatted. Time to test my luck with an alarm I suppose
Guys we should start a console petition🤓
Can't admire my femboy Swan in peace...
…
I'm having zero issues, running the game at 130fps I went into my gpu settings to limit to 60fps. Only ever drop sometimes when I use the team helmet cams
Though I do find King's voice lines pretty fun to listen to
What gpu?
3070ti
Ryzen 9 6900HX
Yes, the 3070ti is for laptops too
I work on the road so I cant use a desktop
yeah its shit
It's pretty good for a laptop GPU tbh
Well considering I can run modern games at 100+fps its pretty good
Yup. My 3050 Ti agrees 😛
how much is his budget
If i make a console petition for this game would any of you sign it lmao
For a console release?
I personally wouldn't because I don't care
Yes im dying to play ts
Absolutely not
Afaik the devs have said they are interested in a console release but not atm
I believe this will eventually come on it's own anyway how many years off that is idk.
Pc cant gatekeep peak forever😔
They’re not powerful enough
I don’t gatekeep, stupid thing to do
Also the demand for tactical sim shooters on console is minimal, everyone on console wants to run and gun with weird randbow pink armor
I have a ps5 pro id be a little surprised if it couldnt
Real
I would love for console people to play EFT as well but I don’t see it happening anytime soon
What a nerd
I got a pc mostly for ready or not
Jk
Even tho I only run it like 55 fps it’s still goated
Lmao yeah i just got lucky this year
RON is surprisingly tough to make run well
This game is going to need a lot more optimization for it to be suitable for console I'd imagine.
If that makes sense
Real
also yes
I mainly got a PC since I was tired of paying for subscriptions
Honestly i think by maybe the end of 2025 or early 2026 it should get announced for console
Nah
Ps5 maybe,not ps4
I'll call it mid 2026
Maybe ron2
I could cook a steak on a ps4 if it attempted to run ts lmao
With the AI's insane reaction times it'll be hard for console players
I’m still surprised that the ps4 is still going
What a beast it must’ve been when it released
High sensitivity could solve that i feel like
I wonder how modding would work on consoles
A few games on console already use Mod.io
Maybe like fallout 4?
Nah void ain't gonna make there own mod installation platform for their game like bethesda.
Yeah its nuts, that and all the key bindings they'll have to use multi key setups like other sims
It's technically possible, but will need tons of time.
Good to know
I guess? How would you handle precision with high sensitivity though?
Well console will likely at least get aim assist which I believe is already a thing when using a gamepad now that they added support for it.
Maybe they could put a disclaimer when you boot saying that mouse and keyboard is recommended for the best experience but console will also work?
Ah true
I play alot of other shooters my aim isnt horrible 🫡
Guys how do I melee with taser?
B button?
B by default.
Ok I will test later thanks
Why not just tase?
How do I get my ai team to actually pull proper security, and also is it just me or do suspect AI always target the player only unless theres no other option?
Well if I run out of ammo and cant reload
Fair point
Fair fair. I won't judge what I barely know anything about
I won’t JUDGE?!??
We listen and we dont judge
Ron reference?
😀
I hope your printer starts malfunctioning the moment you need to print something urgently.
😭😭
It shouldn't be harder for console players. Flicks aren't really a thing in RON. And if you're flicking, you've done something wrong
I hope AI wallbangs you
Printers always exist on impossible difficulty
I cast damp hoodie sleeves
Whats the most budget friendly pc for ron
Wait RON can be played on console?
I hope your food always tastes like British
no
No
Give me a budget,NOW!
I am going to shit your pants
My home printer is much more efficient at listening to me than my work printer lmao

Honestly idk what a decent price range is ive never owned a pc
Had to fight my work printer 3 times today
I'm gonna poison your house and burn your dog (its a joke mods)
UwU?
Great name
I hope you’re computer crashes so that u can’t watch ready or not r34 no more
honestly the most dangerous map is carriers of the wine, make sure your PC is swimming in ice otherwise your house might melt down
I know I fear that
Nahh
💀💀💀
I'm not a Linux user sorry
I hope you have a wonky coffee table
I dont even drink coffee
Guys i just dropped my phone down some stairs
Which # mission is that
6 or 7 iirc
Woman cult mission
the one with big sunny full of life outside which will most likely crash your game or overheat your PC
^
You would’ve told me ages ago if you were🤣
Worst performing map so far was Leviathan. 65fps in multiplier...
the one with wemen living in a cult society
leviathan?
wat dat
Oil Rig
ohhhh
DLC
Ah, the mission im on rn is the suicide bombers in the club forget the name
neon tombe
tomb ?
Yeah btw if you shoot the vest they explode I assume?
never played it before but so far the worst performing map for me was the carriers of the wine, 55 FPS was the least
🤣 That's a good one
They are like the vegans of PC:s
if you shoot a civ with a west then you die, if you dont shoot a suspect with a west you die
“I use linu-“
SIR THIS IS A WENDYS!!!
Unsure, I just shot them in the face with a 1911
vest*
Did you know that technically Linux uses less power so it's more efficient for servers
Makes sense
Windows is so hilariously bloated with shit that it's genuinely amazing how it still functions
Nightclub reminds me too much of the Bataclan shooting so I just murder each suspect
Tell me about it
I work in cyber security, people telling you "But windows is safer !"
😂😂😂
Honey, it's as easy to hack both
Safer from the user because they'll quit before they got to a setting they need, yeah
"Did you use the command I gave you ?"
"Yes"
"Where did you insert it ?"
"Windows Powershell"
FFFFUUUUU

I will never trust anyone with commands, not even my tech nerd friends
Let alone a friend of mine I mentor for programming. It's like I'm talking to an AI that needs explicit step-by-step instructions.
I can be trusted with commands :>
No I won't put a reverse shell script in your server :]
Uh huh
Just trust me, I'm totally not a red team member :)
It will appear there by itself
Ahhhhhhhhh!
just trust me bro
I trust you bro
Guys whats a decently priced pc to play ron
How do I get rid of the mission debrief rq
The score can't be skipped, but there's a button to get back to HQ once that's done
define decently priced
my game crashes or my whole pc turns off after a little bit of play
Get the acer victus
anyone cna help me
in vc
Nah it just makes my pc turn off
ive never had this happen on any other game
Contact @long summit
that sounds like ur pc is struggling to handle the game
hollon
ima go into the game and it wont put strain on my gpu or cpu
or wtv its called
Sum i can buy with a “summer” job😭
What is the target resolution?
yes whats ur budget
i love the ai being dumb and holding the position of a monitor
1080? 1440? 4k?
thats pretty hot
I bought a stormforce onyx
very dangerous monitor clearly
lmao i get called that everyday
Whatever will run ready or nit lmao
i needa change my water then huh
custom build your own. use a website to check compatability
dont normalize it
whats ur budget
IDK man idk what specs ur pc is
@tranquil parcel do you have dlss on
Maybe a band
Just tell me a budget
Band?
build one yourself you can get a pretty decent pc for 1k
youll save like 200 on build fees
Buy an acer victus or build your own
Alright bet bet
use it to upgrade ur gpu
with 1k you can get a good pc
rx5700xt ryzen 9 3950x
do you have a fan or are u only water cooled
this guys is an acer salesmen or some shit
Holy
no I just got it for Christmas
It runs RON fine
I’m getting 120 fps solid
Appreciate it
Now can we get back to discussing judges gyatt?
someone execute this guy immediately
Man what
how do i reset my game files
Whats the performance on the acer victus
For what reason
installed some mods and game keeps crashing
If you downloaded them in-game launch the game in safemode and unsubscribe
If you manually downloaded them, just delete them the same way you would've installed
Buy a prebuilt without any no-name components
It’s still fire
No,3050🤮
thats the problem i think i deleted something i shouldnt have
whoever brought u that PC got ripped off dude ]
Verify the game files and it will reinstall
It’s brand new
thats an outrageous price for a pretty mid gpu and a pretty mid cpu
its overpriced as hell for what it is
over 800 dollars for a 3050 pc
stop overexaggerating
Still a solid 120 fps
On low?
Ultra
3050 is a good budget card, paying 800 for a pc with a 3050 is still overpriced
Depends,3050 6gb or 8gb
I’m playing on ultra graphics hitting a solid 120 fps
im starting to think you dont actually know anything about pc components you just listen to tech bros
if u want a really budget gaming pc get an intel one with an intel gpu
the arc gpus are actually pretty good
ight ty
5 fans
i have no idea what might be causing ur pc to turn off LOL
its says 60% gpu when im in game
Morning.
Im js tryna get a laptop tho so its portable ts
🇦🇺
hello fellows, just bought the game 🫡
ITX maybe?
Explain i know jack all abt pcs lmao
Learn CQB; you’ll need it.
Learn CQB, still die like me.
do not fall for the trap of thinking automatic is better
Get the better swat AI mod
Smol pc basically
Nah, I don't play with AI.
You play on your fridge ?
That’s why you die all the time
Some laptops claim that they have a 4090 but it will perform like a desktop 4070 due to size and cooling issues
No?
I play with people and still die.
Find people with tactical training I guess
I'm skilled at dying.
All G
Too much effort for a video game.
I just lost my entire blue team
🪞
can amos voll still resist arrest after getting tasered multiple times, or is this just a game bug?
Left click will solve your issue
Something you just need to kill him
Yea i just popped him after trying to arrest him for like 5 minutes
@glass mulch coming back from an op into the lspd locker room https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8tMIOyDI_BY
Ahhh i see i see
🤨
🥺
Oh!!! Yes!!! Pretty much that
if your RPD uniforms mod doesn't add a little typewriter to the locker room it's not a mod it's just a skin linch
damn 😔
Mainly just run the stars uniform
I like to think deep down the 'repurposed old building into a police station' thing the LSPD building did is a subtle nod to the RPD station having been a musuem
For sure!
For all those use of force report forms?
An old typewriter..If I had an ink ribbon I could save my progress..
Lol
Jesus.
WHAT!? No ink ribbons!? 🤣
No save for you
I can't think of ink ribbons without flashing back to DSP's infamous re3 playthru
Lol
no ink ribbons is on the same level of in-meme as "I GOT POISON" (rip wolfdnc jesus what a run to lose)
Bro was on WR pace in the clocktower and got poisoned by a spider, ending the run.
Rip
I get so much better at games like RE by watching glitchless any% speedruns tbh.
Cause the tech they use to avoid damage is mindblowing

Extra what?
If you play commander mode correctly, the game is just an RTS game with fps mechanics
my game froze in the loading screen
my b
Hello
Hi
👋
yo is there a room where I can search players?
Lost my entire team
Here
thanks g!
Just had to replace all of my blue squad
What did you in, bomber vest?
nope some guy who sprayed through the wall
F
Lost both of my blue team operators from that

I replaced them anyways
My worst loss was my while fireteam from a bomber vest
I've developed a quick draw response when I hear "Game Over Motherfucker"
Ready or Not
Yes
Kaminsky showed me his 20 incher last night, and I must admit that I was utterly disappointed 😞
You know
That's why you go in with your own SVIED, even the odds. 🧠
You don't have to say 20 incher in every message
Is sks real ?
10.5 incher?
Command is a bunch of pussies and won't let me
VOID is technically our Command. 
Judge is my command
I judge not.
I have an 11.5 inch but disassembled it
did they change the icon, idk if i am going crazy
Judge has an 12 inch
Yknow 6 inches is plenty enough if your using .45 or .357
We talking bout guns?
You worry me.
Yes
I'm more interested in 4 inches


Whats that in cm?
4 inches is too small, you won't get full penetration with that little of powder burn
About 15ish cm
Yea it did but it was changed to something else before it got changed to what it is. 
Especially with magnum cartridges
Where'd the .357 revolver guy disappear to?
4 inches is plenty for 9mm
Not for .357 or .44
That's a snubber, won't get proper penetration or velocity with a mere 4 inches
@acoustic cipher Your time to appear.
6 or 8 is ideal, especially with magnum or +p munitions
Imagine having to worry about penetration bc your 4 inches is not enough
Oh enough
Yeah cause 4 inches is too small
No more inches
When you can have 4 inches and carry a higher capacity with 9mm
Wrte talking about revolvers
Perfect for hostage shots.
mr eman gonna purge soon.
How can you expect to pen body armor with 4 inches of barrel for powder burn
CHAT SHUT UP WITH THE INNUENDO
WHAT THE FUCK IS AN INCH🇪🇺🇪🇺
You're not penetrating body armor regardless of how many inches you have for handgun caliber
What innuendo? I speak of powder burn and projectile penetration

What did I just say
.357 is a magnum cartridge used in some rifles, 8 inches of barrel will pen
We're having a civilized conversation on a scientific subject
Penetrating is the actual term. 
Yes
Soon we will be discussing judges body temp
In Fahrenheit
Just use cm not inches
AP has increased pen, frangible or hollow points don't open as far
You want penetration but not overpenetration, mr eman.
please no ban, it's the actual terms
I am aware
I want overpen so I can hit collaterals
Yet some of you aren't talking about ballistics
You worry me x2.
I always have been
BALLiStics at this point
Shoot THROUGH civilians to hit suspects?
Milk
I am entirely discussing the ballistic properties and powder burn capabilities of revolvers
Yeah.. hunting rifles. The round still becomes ineffective after 200 yards
no hit suspects shoulders and save civilians
For yall who have an answer, why are all of the mods I try to install not work? the only mod that seams to work is Visceral blood. I tried Nexus mods and the in game mods. Any help would be greatfuly appreciated as I have been stuck on this for like 12 hours!
What? Line up 2 suspects and kill em with one shot
Just did by accident and my teammates executed me on the spot. Another ironman gone.
This tbh. Pistol caliber rounds drop like a brick after 200ish
Old mods won’t work
do you know where I can find the new ones at?
They're just too heavy and not enough juice
Tbf you ain't hunting much further than a hundred with irons
Wait, why the shoulder?
We still talking guns?
Which actually makes them ineffective when it comes to maximum penetration
faster reaction time if they shoot back
That's fucking stupid
Ballistics. 
Make sure it has dark waters in the disc
i saved alot of em by shooting the shoulders lmao
You shouldn't shoot at a target if you can't identify it
red dot yes
I prefer legs
Idk man .357 can pen pretty well with 8 inches of barrel behind it
Shoulder is to close to head
if they shoot back u shoot if they dont u tell them to drop to knees
Even after doing that through nexus mods it seemed to not work. I will keep trying though. Thanks for your help!
Hostage shot, head or other exposed. Guarantee hostage rescue. 
If a suspect exists, shoot them in the head
Emran must be pissed lol
theres a few times the AI shot back at me even online
i got jumped twice
Nah, he likes us.
Still tho what advantage does this have over a rifle?
After all we’ve done?
Portability
Ok, not you.
No
Cool factor
Ya and much harder to shoot. Much smaller capacity. And much lower effective range
Real answers, finally!
I know what weapon the next update should add
I just like Judge man…it’s not like an addiction…and I can quit whenever I want I just don’t want to
20mm mounted autocannon
Proper marksman rifles, give me a repeater, a couple bolt rifles
Airburst 84mm.
Let me designate one teammate as a sniper/overwatch
Play a different game
No, gib levergun
Big frame AR is still missing from the game
For 30 meter shots? 😬
Don't pretend that was an accident
We already have a revolver
I heard the next weapon is.... a bullpup L85 :^)
Rdr2 gives you plenty
Die.
Lol
Incher autocorrects to in her I swear
No post him up on a building or something
Is it actually?
No
DLC 3 leak.
No idea what the next weapon ia
Magnum fan was cooking something.
Man I want the damn sopmod
Fair
No
Go play fucking...sniper elite idk
If the L85 just jams every 20.3 seconds, I'd allow it.
I just want an FNC
Yes.
Rude!
Swap shoulders with L85 and open your mouth.
Justified
when it came out?
When we getting female swat officers?
Nu-uh. :(
Mods
Is still cooking, I believe. Doing a big think perhaps 🤔
Probably freeLC!
Need it now
Get mods that’s how
Yeah, no idea. Probably writing Bible in korean or something.
They aim expired?
If you haven't seen Magnum's rants... 🤣
When the lady at station stops complaining about the new co-operation agreement with coast
Also a gal with king voicelines feels weird
Revolvers are bad.
Yes
True. They're cool, but that's about it
6 rounds is plenty if the cartridge is big enough
1911 gang.
3" is bare minimum for typical expected peformance.
4" is pretty standard but longer barrel lengths still eke out additional performance
6" is about as long as handguns can practically get.
Out of a 6" handgun max pressure .357 loads can achieve the expected energies of most commercial spec .44 mag ammo.
I don't know .44 mag that well but most .357 magnum commercial loads are comically under maximum spec. Out of a 6" barrel you'll usually see ~600ft*lbs while proper max pressure 180gr loads can achieve more like 800-900ft*lbs.
I guess they also clear malfunctions easy as well. All you have to do is pull the trigger again
🫦
But when you get enough bang, you will break your wrist
I was not disappointed by this response
8 inches is heavier so less recoil, better powder burn, and I usually use a little heavier of a load to more barrel matters
im on phone wearing glovss lol sorry babe
8" is just a bit unwieldy.
For distances in which handguns are typically shot, why does this even matter tho?
Honestly, if you ask me... Liking 357 is fucking copium
i just think its neat
You've never duelled in the wild west, I see.
1911 is just superior
It might just be that I'm a bigger guy, I find 8" to be perfectly weighted
There's a reason why mag fed 9mm replaced .357 revolvers
Big iron is a banger tho so I’ll allow it
No
Yes.
.45 auto milspec loads are at best marginally more powerful than their 9mm equivalents.
Penetration of cover and armor, improved ballistics for the rare distant shots, and a louder bang makes me feel cool
Louder bangs to intimidate suspects.
I prefer yelling 10 times
Give us a magnum revolver secondary in the next update
Sometimes, you even have to bark like a dog to get that compliance.
357 doesn't pen for shit tho 
Yes but go back to what is the purpose of a handgun and what is it good for? Handguns fucking suck. They're only good for concealment. So ofc you'd go with one that is smaller and easy to shoot
I just gas them if they don't comply
Wait, HANDGUNS as a whole category?
Does louder bang even matter at close ranges anyways? Its still loud.
Idk man big iron hits like a truck
btw to be clear this is more vibes based than id like it. i dont wanna recite ballistics by the inch charts here
New vegas fan spotted
i mean it actually does thats like the one documented benefit for law enforcement. especially vehicles
Ncr or legion?
My brother in christ I literally have the courier as my pfp how did it take this long
Yes
Anyone else have an issue getting a team member to deploy the BB shotgun at a non compliant suspect? Shotgun is out and pointed but won't fire.
Ave
Ok slaver
Alright suicidal tax man
No ballistic advantage .357 magnum could provide would justify the platform over a wonder 9 but the cartridge penetrates obstacles well.
Better than 9mm, a lot worse than something you would actually want to use
Handgun is better for escorting suspects or hostages. You can get hands-on easier. Primary weapon malfunctions. List goes on.
Like what ? .300BLK ? 7.62x51mm OTAN ?
Have fun on a cross when I take that fucking dam from you
Meanwhile house is just laughing at us
for law enforcement application magnums penetrate the relevant obstacles well.
House is a crippled vegetable in a tube he can piss off
I can't imagine SWAT revolvers.
Ok we got:
taxer
Brain tumour
Robot
Old man
just a standard ar-15 in 556 does fine. Plenty better than firing 357 out of a handgun
Actually statistically untrue.
Some Eastern European teams use revolvers for some reason. This is like a decade ago.
I just want FNC in the game
Slide biteywitey hurtywurty.

Lol wut.
I changed my mind
Magnum coming in with the charts.
I want m76 /k-45
I want a bolt rifle in this game
One second I need to find sources now AAAA
WHY?
Mosin
Or a levergun, let me be a stubborn old timer stuck in his ways
Musket
Hatchet.
Rock
We have an m14, let be kick down doors like a wwI commando
Ive already got a service pistol and gas
M14 came long after..
Curious to know where you will find a source which says .357 is as good as 5.56 for penetrating body armor or obstacles
M14 is basically just a polymer frame m1 garand
.357 is too slow to defeat body armor
Garant is ww2 tho
what about 22LR? could be fun
.22 hitters, hell yeah
Also M14 has magazine and full auto option
Tell that to the dumb bastards in Sins of the Father
22LR could be fun you could mug dump everyone without killing them
Do you actually use full auto?
Just gimme a bolt rifle fucker
🤯
Using FMJ 9x19 will consistently outperform 5.56x45 due to projectile deflection and tumbling.
There used to be mod called sniper or not that gave you a bolt action m24
Let me use a .338 lapua in a building
What happened to it?
20 inch M16 enters the chat
Dark waters happened
Damn, and it never got remade?
.50 BMG with the way you're going
It would also give you M249
WIP
in law enforcement usually they'd use JHP because penetration is generally undesirable.
Roger, deleting that direction
Outperform in what sense?
.338 Lapua Magum LMG, courtesy of SIG when?
it will penetrate more
Body armor exists and I don't want it to, fuck them civs
I kinda want frag grenades, m67 maybe.
Penetrate what? Human body? Armor? Concrete?
Thermobarics. 
There's a mod for that
Beslan mindset
I mean I want a legit grenade from the devs you know? fragmentation grenade
like house walls i think lots of tests are
Full penetration is less damage to body tissue. What makes 556 lethal is fragmentation velocity. Creates a nasty wound cavity instead of a hole that's the size of 9mm bullet
Nah, just your typical Australian with a ASM-HG.
were talking about barrier penetration
which 5.56 is imfamously bad at
The bullet tumbling and yawing and breaking apart inside your body will do more damage than just a bullet sized hole zipping through
They'll never do it because SWAT.
That VERY heavily depends on the 5.56 ammo you use and barrel length. M855A1 will penetrate WAY more than any 9mm. Also the OG 20" barrels for the M16 (which the 5.56 was designed for) are better
Are most law enforcement agencies using m855a1 ?
why not use M995?
5.56 yaws heavily. It was designed to do so. Once again, I repeat myself, from 20" barrels
20 inches with m193 is zooming at 3300fps
5.56 mainly relies on frag for lethality and doesnt yaw as much as other intermediate cartridges
No, just an example. But any "proper" 5.56 is going to penetrate more reliably. At least from what I've seen.
Well, if you use a 7" barrel and a low grain bullet, maybe not
You know the argument is solved when you just use .308 like a true law enforcement officer
5.56 was yawing very well in the OG 20" barrels and grains.
It's different with today's shorter barrels indeed
it was fragging mainly
13.7 inches is prob the lowest you can go to get reliable fragmentation
There was heavy yawing as well. I'm speaking OG Vietnam days (not the malfunctioning mess it got adopted as, but design wise
Does RoN have any 20" barrels that use 5.56?
If a suicide bomber surrenders are you able to cuff him without him detonating? One surrendered so I shot him and then I think one of my team members shot me in the head cause I recognize the sound of our weapons
MK211 RAUFOSS gang levitating above chat. 
you hit reliable frag velocities with m193 out to about 100y with a 12.5in so
No. I'm just memeing as a 20" fan
Didnt they fix those issues with the A1 model?
They gotta buff melee or at least give you like a pocket knife. or make the shield bashing actually- stunn or hurt
You can, yes.
Yes it was. Also thank McNamara for dismantling the Ordance Department
Its also not helpful that they created the whole self cleaning myth
M855A1 also has a lower frag threshold than M193 so its kind of a moot point.
Ordnance Dept. strikes once again
Oh okay, well i'll do that for now on i was worried he was just gonna detonate. Also, does your own team shoot you for shooting someone who surrendered? 😂
Seeker just likes the boomer barrel length.
Yes.
They should add the M16 to RoN
Like give these dudes a gerber launch or something holy shit
They added the M14, why not the M16
Well, to be fair. M855A1 was designed to penetrate body armor from a 14.5" barrel, so yea yawing is subpar
Boomer barrel length. 
M193 or match ammo is all anyone should be talking about
We still yappin ballistics?
Both external and wound. 🫡
Alright, never had to before. The game doesnt tell you the literal suicide bomber can just surrender and not detonate when you go in to cuff
5.56 wasnt generally designed to yaw and it doesnt generally yaw that much versus competitors like 7.62x39 and 5.45.
6.8
Don't mention 6.8. Oh no.
Well kinda yes, I like the boomer barrel length. Mostly because general issues with 5.56 are solved by using a 20" inch, but I'm also not stupid and I can see why shorter barrels are more prevalent, especially in law enforcement
The US army is switching over to 6.8
who cares
Me
Don't disrespect a future US Army soldier!
Gun go boom
End of discussion
This whole conversation is one big "who cares", honestly. Yet, here I am.
Soviets designed 5.45 after the 5.56 and one of the design points was better yawing IIRC, but this is an irrelevant argument anyway
Don't disrespect the 20 inches
Future? 
5.45 is superior, but too bad their rifles sucked
Either future or past, never present. 
With the amount of program they have, every US Army soldiers is a "Future Soldier"
LOL.
That is very true
I literally just got done with OSUT 
Dude, remember the XM25 and Google glasses stuff?
I mean in their eras the m16 was arguably inferior to the AK-74, the m16 design just happened to age extremely well into the 90s and 2000s.
I remember the OICW in Soldier of Fortune II
I have no idea what that means but congratulations.
Ok
Oof.
Can we talk about judge now?
The AK-74 was also a later design. Compare OG AKM and the M16. Also, the M16 was lighter and easier to carry
Army, right?
Yes
🤜
M16 also significantly more accurate. Actually not true until the 90's and early 2000
AKM was also an early design so we can can hop scotch forever I guess.

amazing voice
Generally incorrect they both achieve comparable performance on milspec rifles
Eh. Modern samples yes, but also not relelvant. We're talking couple MoAs well within human torso sizes
Indeed,very shy tho
See edit
Judge my beloved 💖
Judge❤️
AKS-74N vs M16A2 is the best 80s peer to peer comparison
Rack grade modern ARs are still like 4moa guns.
When the m16's switched over to free floating handguards, that's when there was a clear winner
Once you start Magnum, it doesn't stop. So hunker down chat.
YEs, but comparing a 74 rifle to something designed in the late 50' is not exactly fair. Especially with all the upgrades later M16s got
M16A4 compared to the 74
Absolutely. Agrred
battering ram or breach shotgun for the college shooting map?
M16A2 vs AKS-74N is the actual comparison I was making
i gotta go soon lol
battering ram is prob faster
C2
bc it opens the door all the way
A2 had better sights tho, so I guess it "balances out"
the manly urge to go on 4chan, see a post about going to some random field for a “prize”, and get murdered never to be seen again:
I prefer AK irons to be honest
breach shotgun only opens the door a lil bit
Compare the modern variants and it's not even a contest. M16a4 > ak74m 💯
i wish they added napalm
Ram is faster and opens all the way. Shotgun can be used from a little further away, making opening the door safer.
Depends on situations.
wait wait wait
I mean with or without aftermarket
chat napalm flamethrower? i should work at lockheed martin
It's 2024, what do you think. Even without aftermarket, m16 is clear winner
yeh i think if your tryna go fast ram is prob best bet
how
Even the KAC rails were aftermarket.
I'd argue even without aftermarket. US soldiers had access to ACOGs and grips back in Op. Iraqi Freedom. as well.
Sights are better for accuracy.
Only issue is that the RIS is heavy as fuck
altho it prob barely matters
chat m16 vs ak debate is stupid
You still have a rail on top for optics
AK-74M has side rail. Not as good but it works.
G51 Supermacy
The modularity just future proofs it
I think with modern aftermarket AKs can be plenty modular.
Sureshot chassis systems are great.
Lol no amount of aftermarket parts will get an AK to outperform an MK12
Problem is that modern ARs come out of the factory being modular.
Also ALL parts of it are modular from grip, to receiver parts, to trigger, etc
okay so what
I like the AK, don't get me wrong, but from a 2024 perspective, it's subpar to an AR platform unless you're in extreme cold
I mean most AK parts are "modular." You can replace them. Especially in Russia where they have consistent spec.
How do you run solo? Everytime I hit a hard mission to get past it pushed my team to their mental limits. Instead I can just run alone on easier ones while they go through therapy
"Consistent" as in hammer in the ZenitCo chassis to fit properly, yes.
Map knowledge. Knowing how the map looks, flows, and where the most likely spawns are
? thats intentional because they have to accomodate AKMs and foreign rifles.
No I mean how do you take the team off your roster so its empty
Since you mentioned zenitco. I need to say that their products are fucking shit lmao
Yeah Zenit sucks.
okay battering ram was bad on the college map
Start friends only lobby and you can play all alone.
Sureshot blows them put of the water.
i just got instantly shot when i opened the door
Play MP alone
Oh okay so mp missions count to your teams therapy?
Happens.
Honestly I use "Cover Me" at the start of the map, so they won't follow but I can still use them for cleanup
i couldn t even switch to my primary
Use the battering ram from the side. NEVER stand in front of the door
Alright, do they still get stressed if you die or have to kill a suspect?
Dunno
I play quickplay
i guess i need a person that stays with ADS so i won t die
Why the hell is twisted nerve so hard
i find the college map pretty hard for b+ mark
Wdym it's pretty good and standard IMO
i s ranked elephant
Do you have night vision equipped?
it only cost me my mental stability and a week of productivity
No these tweakers are everywhere bro
Yes but they pop out of everywhere bro
I have no issues with them. Check closets and beds if they're hiding, otherwise it's not that hard
hey seeker, want to know a fun RON fact
Best way is to MP with a team of like 5.
the only issues i have with twisted nerve are the tunnels
I guess?
I tase them and then I get shot by them while trying to cuff
if you shoot a suspect in the neck they hold on to it and try to stop the bleeding
I usually take my time on that one, clear room by room floor by floor with blue team pulling security. Takes awhile, but its effective
By the same guy? If so, you took too much time. If not, you need to clear that area first
elephant is cancerous because they kill civilians too fast
it was the same guy my team already cleared that area so I went to cuff him after tasing
Yea I've seen that. I double tap them sometimes
oh shit i may have found a modern sniper rifle mod
dont quote me, i gotta check it, but its "large caliber sniper rifle" by SwanisApproaching
Suspects will stand up and fight again after a given time has passed, regardless of map.
You either need to pull security on them or get your teammates to cuff them while you look out for others
Whaat? Now I gotta try.
yeah i discovered that because i whiffed a headshot
killed my s runs far too many times
Also the whole killing suspect increases stress thing doesnt work well when team AI just insta kill any suspect they see with a gun
i had to learn their spawn locations through trial and error
had to purge my entire roster
eventually i figured it out
now when i do that map with friends i instinctually split off to check those areas
My god why can’t they just add a sopmod mod
Looking for a logo designer, you will get payed in USD. Dm me if interested
why cant they just add artillery
Not here
I just want an AMD-65 that also has a flashbang/stinger effect on AoE (optionally)
For real bro
when did dark waters come out
Dec 10
Around December 10th
damnit this was posted before dark waters
RIP
early december or sum idk
Can someone make a sopmod
im not even proficient in f3 menu in minecraft let alone making a whole ass ready or not mod
SOPMOD
CoD4 fan spotted /s
which one
no I just want a damn sopmod in game
block 1 or 2
Newer one the SOPMOD Block II
k
Also peak gameplay:
SPC9, full auto only, 11 mags
I carry 25 lol
mod?
Enhanced vests
Yea I play vanilla in that regard
I play vanilla until a mission drains my ammo
But 11 fine fine for most maps. One mag dump / suspect
its broken
I’m carrying 60 for twisted nerve lol
my friend wastes ammo on dead suspects and i find it irritating
Just use 7.62x51 
i put a shot through their skull and move on with it
thats what 4 for every suspect?
"We're not looking for bodybags!" -TOC
3 rifle mags and 10 flashbangs is the way to go
ATF run
it’s for whatever suspect wants it but yes
im super colorblind and i cant tell if someones alive or not if they're down, so ill just quickly tap them again if i dont see a pool of blood
aka me and my friend killing everyone
Get on a higher level.
Beslan.
Thermobarics. Tanks with canister shell, BTRs, Hinds
suspect is magical and can tell when a suspect is incapacitated or dead
I got a fire ass PCU mod
Just cuff them kekw
captain walker chapter 13
mw19 butcher interrogation aint shit
i can only kill butcher but i want to massacre his child and wife
The last sopmod that was updated was in 2023
The fent gas
I am not a model by any means as I got permabanned from an official discord when I was too drunk 😄
add it now!
Fr
kaminsky you better be taking notes
pumps fent gas into streamer's apartment
its crazy how i cant share opinions i have
1984
1984
if twisted nerve wasnt already full of gas it is now
also the red barrels in twisted nerve explode i learned that the hard way
Tbh mine wasn't an opinion. I get why they banned me, I also knew the autobot would delete my message before it's sent, so it was more venting than anything else,
hey is there a mod that shuts toc the fuck up
its called lowering your volume
Need.
Try deleting the TOC voice folder
I need to make AI and your character STFU too.
1984 is a good book
DROPPING A CHEMLIGHT x200
"this is not a run and gun operation" then why hire a team called "door kickers" mf
its called brutally killing them by sending them into suicide missions against suspects
Preacher Crasher Dot Exe
oh ive found something even better
now instead of TOC yelling at me for ROE violations, randy savage chimes in to tell me im a badass
replace the toc voiceline files with low tier god’s encouraging words
Rules of Engagement are as follows: only shoot when the suspect has shot you 8 times.
AI SWAT mindset
the rules are: they engaged the moment they threatened civs
SWAT is a life saving organization sure, door kickers isnt, and the suspects stopped being people with lives that matter once they raised that pistol
You think SWAT are there to rescue civilians? Pfft.
i wish i could use the kill me command irl when i lose hours of work cuz i forgot to save
swat isnt, thats why i remade who's doing the raiding in my save
works 9 hours a day
"Uhh... I've fucked up"
Just get a mod to fix them
i got a mod that changes the tags on everything, now its the Door Kickers PMC company
‘do me a favor, will ya?’
You scare me.
Nah, I just ignore ROE and don't care for score.
my friend said it was funny i shot civvies before engaging the suspects
Your friend is likely to be a war criminal
let me use incendiary shotgun rounds
Average Australian is also likely.
Set the house on fire?
Drape burn.
just the wall i shoot at
no im the war criminal in my friendgroup
Doesn’t surprise me
anyone having a bug where the game gives you epilepsy and the image is downscaling to 1/4th of your screen for like a frame or 2?
Known issue. DLSS?
hey i keep hearing about a guy in the basement, how do i get to the basement
which mission
the police station itself
Gotta trial and error.
you mean the training area??
Right of armory/range.
wasnt able to find the guy, lets go raid a vinyard with these new ROE upgrades
now macho man will reinforce my rampant murder of suspects instead of tocs grating rants
macho MAN? VINEYARD?
theyre gonna kill your toc
yeah MACHO MAN RANDY SAVAGE
jesus christ
apparently buckshot removes suspects faces
yup
And limbs!
I remember that slugs used to remove heads, was that changed?
it was funny hearing the blood squirting sound effect after i made so their body would have to be identified via cotton swab
You love that picture KEKW
Also, you guys made me want to run 23Mbps with a 308 again
556 gang, unite.
Or shouild I ran an SMG?
GWOTters.
MK18 with vertical grip and no other attachments
Reason I want a 20" M16
Object collision be crazy.
"Just remove the objects" -Artillery/Air Force
Hell yeah.
Body a suspect with an underbarrel launcher. 40mm Slug goes THUNK
@agile merlin
i respect it
Order an 18 incher. It's almost just as good
What fps will I get with an
RX 6700 XT
Ryzen 7 5700G
32GB DDR4
SSD
I can order an airsoft gun
Yo where?
HUN
