💬general-discussion

[sweet sphinx]

With other players? Good comms, and taking it slow.
With AI, I just usually let them go on their own while I clear my own smaller rooms

[modest fern]

Yeah pretty much, we used our kit and talked about when we were doing something like flashing/C2ing

Chased down the Prince together and then took apart the ai

[half echo]

Is anyone on

[sweet sphinx]

I still havent had the prince order executions yet

[half echo]

well manly trying to play lol

[sweet sphinx]

#🔎looking-for-players

[half echo]

Sorry newer to the server

[formal belfry]

Has anyone found the || secret MLO meeting room on the third level||

[sharp cove]

i know good mods for balaclava if you want i can give you pink

so without swat sniper🤧 and balaclavas

[sweet sphinx]

They probably want to keep judge looking like judge

[sacred holly]

From the boat landing spawn on the oil rig, where do you walk to find the laptop

It took me like an extra 8 minutes to find it 😭

[novel patio]

Gas is really pointless unless 3 people all bring 5 grenades each.

Covers too small an area and you have to sit there yelling at them for the entire duration of the gas or else they just up and fuck off

[sweet sphinx]

I run a 2 man with gas only, havent had any issues

Good for keeping suspects down if you for some reason cant cuff em right away

[formal belfry]

I've never used gas grenades unless im trying to smoke them out. Pepperball is mini gas balls that make them cough. Once they're coughing you taser them, which will usually make them surrender once they exit their coughing animation
you need to wait for them to finish their coughing before following up the taser

[novel patio]

That is just so unbelievably unfun.

7 stuns per person it is

[formal belfry]

On the older maps, including the home invasion dlc, you can literally run and taser all the suspects and they instantly surrender.
On the dark water maps, its usually 1-2 tasers

[sacred holly]

I'm so mad, I got unauthorized Use of Force for throwing a stinger at a suspect, but i think the grenade itself hit a civilian. I WAS ABOUT TO GET S RANK ON THE OIL RIG TOO!!

Anyway, I need to sleep so i guess It's fine (its my signal that i've been on for too long so ron wants to piss me off lmfao)

[main owl]

Hi

[main owl]

Hahahah

[neat mesa]

thoughts on yacht hostage timer?

[main owl]

DONT SPOILER

[formal belfry]

There's no hostage timer? Well not exactly.

[ocean mulch]

Hey, my game keeps crashing on launch since the update. Windows updated, Nvidia updated, mods deleted, game reinstalled. No idea what to do next.

[formal belfry]

Did you launch the game using Launch Clean save

[ocean mulch]

I'm hitting the Play button on Steam

[formal belfry]

When you hit play, you should get a launch option

[formal belfry]

Secure the HVT before the other suspect NPCs can tattle to him.

[elder quest]

Question, for the yacht mission - how is it possible to save the civilians? regardless if you rush from the bottom to the top - or the top to the bottom i never end up being at the hostage taker in time

[formal belfry]

Don't let the suspects get away. If they see you, secure them.

[elder quest]

oh nobody gets away

[severe orchid]

my mod was died （

[elder quest]

i run through cuffing or shooting the suspects, but regardless im never in time

[formal belfry]

They are hearing and seeing you before you can get close to them. You need to secure the HVT before they can freak out

[elder quest]

HVT?

[formal belfry]

The saudi prince or whatever suspect gives the order to kill civies.

[elder quest]

the white robe guy?

[simple steppe]

jesus christ this watchman guy is still here?

[elder quest]

what?

[simple steppe]

some guy that hosts games for the sake of preaching with prerecorded audio

[umbral grove]

I have no idea, but man it is like finding Waldo at this point

[simple steppe]

I just ran into them

[neat mesa]

I stood perfectly still from spawn and it triggered lol

[ocean mulch]

Thanks, that got it running. Still crashes with DX12 for some reason though. Will I have to replay the whole game to get my stuff back?

[neat mesa]

I had him surrender only for him to call execution the moment before I arrest him

Honestly between him sprinting faster than us as well as sprinting the very moment he sees us, I feel like it's nigh impossible at times and it genuinely comes down to RNG. If the trigger happens on a timer like it happened to me, then you're forced to rush, but the map is designed in such a way that rushing is the easiest way to get melted. Really odd map and not a fan

[waxen dome]

Ready or Not

[vale shell]

AOHH MA GOD ABATUKAM HK G3

now just the barebone m16

[errant cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/forward-assist-joke-eugen-stoner-funny-m16a2-gif-6499262137439843183

[vital musk]

We got some new ppl joining the void interactive team?

[vale shell]

ngl id pay for a dlc where you can use the m249 or any fun weapons

[errant cedar]

Fun fact there are some M60's still around in the LAPD armouries 😄

[stone raven]

found a keycard on leviathan, anyone know what it does?

[vale shell]

2 poor for 6 days in fallujah barely enough money for ron dlc 🙏

[hardy hawk]

why the fuck does the police have machine guns like that 😭

[vale shell]

brazilian polices in favelas :

[hardy hawk]

grenade launchers:

[vale shell]

i miss the flash grenade launchers its just peak disorientating

[wraith willow]

Man I'm loving that socom dmr or whatever its called, that's deadly (idk why it replied to that)

[hardy hawk]

i shot a civie with the grenade launcher 😔

[hardy hawk]

THERES A SOCOM?

[sharp raft]

Check out this mf #🎨ron-screenshots-and-art message

[hardy canopy]

The mk17 i'd guess

[hardy hawk]

Is it dlc

[novel patio]

The police are the boot the government uses to oppress the masses and enforce their will why wouldn’t they have weapons like that

[fallen sail]

The EBR, and it's free

[errant cedar]

Yes but all players have access to DLC guns

[hardy hawk]

damn how i only got ars smgs and shotties

[radiant quiver]

Hey, so I've been trying to play with my friend and the last 3 times I've started up the game, as soon as I try to join his game, it crashes my entire computer. What the hell is going on?

[hardy hawk]

Specs?

[radiant quiver]

RTX 3080 32GBS of ram on an SSD, and an I711700K

[hardy hawk]

Oh ok thats not the problem then

[errant cedar]

Scroll down in the Assault Rifle menu

[novel patio]

That top rail is cursed

[plush ginkgo]

needed the ebr 😦 no foregrip

[hardy hawk]

Wtf this isn’t in my game

[novel patio]

Oh shit it’s Leonard church

[errant cedar]

Are you able to stream for me your loadout menu?

That's very weird

[hardy hawk]

Did the game update

[plush ginkgo]

yeah update shouldve given you the weapons

[errant cedar]

can you restart your steam for me and see if a update comes up?

[hardy hawk]

yeap

[radiant quiver]

Yes, it's me. And yeah, it just crashed my PC again after trying to join an MP game.

[hardy hawk]

ok yeah the update is there now ty

[errant cedar]

perfect

yeah sometimes with games you'll need to restart your steam to get the update

[stone raven]

Man 3 letter triad is genuinely one of the best missions i have ever played in a multiplayer fps

[errant cedar]

❤️

[stone raven]

absolutely stellar level design and vibes, I felt like I was in the SCP universe. I'm convinced there's an elaborate easter egg on that map

[novel patio]

I’m loving dropping flashes at enemies feet only for them to delete me as soon as I tell them to surrender

[radiant quiver]

Any advice on what I can do?

[hardy hawk]

“Get down hands up!” pulls rocket launcher

[errant cedar]

No idea that's a very weird issue

[radiant quiver]

Dammit XD

[errant cedar]

is this only when you join MP?

[novel patio]

I can watch a stun go off in their face and they just shoot me anyways

[humble horizon]

I just used a good 15 minutes making a load out for my team and it didn't save, is this normal?

[radiant quiver]

Yep, I was able to join a single player game no problem

[errant cedar]

What happens if you host instead?

[radiant quiver]

I just lowered my graphics from epic to high and tried again, same result, and no clue, have to restart again

[errant cedar]

can you try and host a game yourself and see what happens?

[radiant quiver]

I did a fresh install, ran the mod/saves cleaner, and all that

Yeah, I'll give it a try

[novel patio]

New bug yeah

[humble horizon]

lovely

[novel patio]

Indeed

[radiant quiver]

Is it possible Reshade is doing something to it?

[radiant quiver]

Yep, tried to host a game and I got a blue screen

First time that's happened stop code was CLOCK_WATCHDOG_TIMEOUT

OK so I launched it in DirectX11 and it worked, it let me join an MP game

[errant cedar]

sorry about that but glad it seems to be working

just rock DX11 for now

[wintry crescent]

Why maps don't use my GPU resources? 🥲

[radiant quiver]

Yeah, I mean there's not much difference between them, right?

[solid cape]

Because of cpu bottleneck

[wintry crescent]

Ryzen 5 3600 has fallen?

[solid cape]

Just AI being heavy on cpu

[wintry crescent]

Sucks that I can't do anything about it but to buy new cpu

[novel patio]

What did it get more resource intensive this update

[ember axle]

I have a 10th generation i5
rtx 2060;6g
16gb ram
1 terabyte hdd
I play on high and maps work very well but there are maps with drops, especially the new ones. Any recommendations for adjusting?

[versed sequoia]

hello

[solid cape]

Well i have twice less fps with bots on new maps

[minor gull]

hey guys

does anything think itll go on sale over the holidays?

[rain mural]

Considering the new DLC just dropped I would assume no, but you never know!

[novel patio]

For no actual improvement in the AIs capability lmao god damn void keeps surprising

[minor gull]

alrightt ill just get it now then

[runic aspen]

tell me is the ai actually improved or not like that

[pliant briar]

only the surrender animations improved, but it's not exactly working properly from what i've seen

[novel patio]

It is not improved in the slightest.

There’s a couple different animations but their behaviour is still the exact same and none of the animations they advertised ages ago are actually working still.

[versed sequoia]

guys i dont think my pc is ready to play ron

[pliant briar]

the fact that they blind you with their flashlight when surrendering suggests that no one play tested the game smh

[novel patio]

Is that surprising

[pliant briar]

i mean i would expect void to learn from their mistakes

[wintry crescent]

The surrendering animation when they point the gun at you is a big goofy

[versed sequoia]

i have an intel i5 i5-8250U cpu

[novel patio]

They’re kiwis they don’t learn from their mistakes

[versed sequoia]

and an nvidia geforce 930mx and 8 gigs of ram

[novel patio]

New Zealanders just blame their problems on someone else and keep going down the same path.

[pliant briar]

real, and you can't really tell where they hold the weapon (unless it's 1080p with blurry AA skill issue)

nonetheless, some improvements can definitely be seen, just not with the AI

[runic aspen]

unchanged AI behaviour is CRAZYYY 💀

[wintry crescent]

With my frames very much so

[crude leaf]

the ready or not AI situation is insane 😱

[proven sparrow]

So, AI still sucks?

[crude leaf]

yep
theres like new animations and thats about it for the older maps
only the new DLC levels have some of the fancy behaviours they just added. Possibly as a sort of test before they potentially add it to other maps idk

[proven sparrow]

Is the new AI on those maps good?

[crude leaf]

havent played all the maps yet but it feels pretty much the same
only real new thing is how they rally together as a team, so they may fall back to their friends or their friends bum rush in to help them

[proven sparrow]

That is cool, I still think this is an odd thing to have as a DLC

[crude leaf]

theres also some things like a weapon cache they can run to to gear up on one of the levels I think but I havent seen that yet

[proven sparrow]

This feels like Rainbow 6, not a SWAT team

[fallen sail]

I actually think the AI is noticably better tbh, they've done some goofy shit which i love

[topaz tundra]

[royal talon]

[proven sparrow]

Such as?

[fallen sail]

such as bum rushing me with an unarmed AI in front of them

[proven sparrow]

Okay, that is cool

[fallen sail]

that actually got me pretty good, the unarmed ai was also a suspect that was teamed up with them

suspects also run away now without firing at you, which is great to see

[proven sparrow]

I bet the behavior will be ported to Twisted Nerve

[fallen sail]

You cannot fire on them since they don't show clear hostile intent, so you have to stay on your toes afterwards

They already do it on twisted nerve, i just got an unauthorised use of force cause of it, hasn't happened in ages

[upper quarry]

do enemy ai trip their own trip wires

on purpose ofc

[kind raven]

Dlc2 hardly but maybe game with both dlcs goes on sale as a bundle

[fallen sail]

That's not intended but it can happen

[main owl]

Did they updated gunfighter ?

[upper quarry]

gotcha, been trying to ironman mode to get the rolex, ive died way too many times, and dying to something out of my control has me crashing out icl

[fallen sail]

What you're describing should be super rare

[upper quarry]

#🎨ron-screenshots-and-art message

[fallen sail]

bruh

chances are they broke it, whoopsie

[pulsar cape]

mods are crashing game on startup

[fallen sail]

so.... take them off?

[pulsar cape]

ye, but what can i do to stop them crashing?

[upper quarry]

theres an option to remove mods on start up

[fallen sail]

take them off

[pulsar cape]

but i want them

[fallen sail]

sucks

[halcyon nova]

sucks to be you ig

[main owl]

Did they updated gunfighter ?

[halcyon nova]

no

probably the guy who made it needs time to sprays, attachments, etc so would give him a couple of days minimum

[fallen sail]

according to #🔧modding-chat gunfighter might be done

[main owl]

Well I didn’t see it updated

[fallen sail]

As in not being updated anymore

[main owl]

Okay

[halcyon nova]

Thats fair considering that they took inspiration from it or smth

[fallen sail]

I don't think they did, the weapon handling is it's own thing

[hard bone]

no, the author said he's postponing due to health issue

[manic hill]

Is there somewhere to see an image of the new cosmetics, didn't see anything in the changelog

[hard bone]

the mod isn't done

[fallen sail]

it says it's updated for dlc2 anyway so i dunno

[hard bone]

there's emergency fix pack

[halcyon nova]

Which version then

[fallen sail]

There's only one live version

[halcyon nova]

the gunfighter?

[hard bone]

check the mod's download page again, there's super emergency pack

[halcyon nova]

Assuming you mean nexus, its not there cause im looking at it

[pulsar cape]

when doing the first mission of dark water dlc i feel like call of duty

[strong current]

fr

[pliant briar]

you know they're doing something right when swat game feels like call of duty

[pulsar cape]

how many mission do new dlc have?

[pliant briar]

3

[fossil sluice]

They're pretty cool too

We get to fight eco terrorists

[pulsar cape]

i see

[half thorn]

its not johhny silverhandd :(

[pulsar cape]

just listening to briefing of oil rig mission

[fossil sluice]

Johnny is in the space marines episode in secret level

[tardy walrus]

I’m not sure where to put this, so I’ll just drop this here…

I really wanted to shoutout VOID for finding a way to integrate the Coast Guard into RoN!! It’s one of my favorite shooters when I have time from my real life duties… as a member of the real life US Coast Guard, on the California coast!! I love all of the attention to detail including the ODUs, the RB-S, and the way they outlined how C.O.A.S.T. does all of the missions that we actually do in the CG. It’s very rare that our service gets represented in video games, and even more so that it’s done so accurately, so it makes me super happy and excited to play this DLC. Hopefully the team at VOID reads this or this makes its way to them. Keep up the great work!!!!

❤️❤️❤️ 🌊🛡️

[fossil sluice]

Yeah it's really high quality

[tardy walrus]

100%!! Just reading the COAST flyers in the precinct got me super excited and impressed that they really took the time to learn what our agency does. Most people don’t even know we’re a military branch, never mind all of the different missions we do like pollution response, aids to navigation, safety inspections, obviously search and rescue (my favorite and the job I do in the CG is actually to coordinate SAR missions) and obviously when it comes to RoN, the big one being LE as well.

[fossil sluice]

1.0 only came out like a year ago, I imagine there to be at least 2 more dlc's

I haven't played in a year, need to buy the dlc's and have more fun

[kind rapids]

Hi ! It is not possible anymore to lean from one side to another seamlessly with the toggle mode ? Like, If I were to lean left and wanted to switch right, I'd have to tap twice on my key instead, one would make me neutral, and the second would make me lean.

[pulsar cape]

ima do the oil rig mission with gas masks

[tardy walrus]

@rigid bone I think you’d be the best person from VOID to ping to say thanks for this? I just really wanted to relay to your team how awesome this update really is and how thoughtful it was for you to include our agency in the game in such an accurate and realistic manner.

[main owl]

They updated it

[next dragon]

toc tuah, breach that thang

[halcyon nova]

wouldnt call it an update if its an emergency fix pack but sure

[mighty ibex]

Yeah ong it fixed some of them

But he has to completely rework it

[vale shell]

how to dispatch threats as judge : 12 gauge buckshot

[mighty ibex]

12 gauge slug directly to the face the buckshot is only effective vs unarmed while the slug will make the target unidentifiable meaning they won’t know if it’s a civi meaning you can shoot civis

[vale shell]

cheap :

[mighty ibex]

Eheheheh but I like killing civs they can’t identify

[royal flower]

Is that anybody on here cleared 30M kill at leviathan ?

[fresh pulsar]

is that the island map

[royal flower]

mission on Rig

2nd mission of new missions

I can't find that location to kill far 30meter

[somber prism]

Does anyone with the supporter edition got the dlc for free?

[spare pendant]

Hello, is anyone having an issue where they cant cuff complying suspects?

[fresh pulsar]

I got the dlc for “ free “ yeah

[exotic swallow]

How do you remove the headphones on the no helmet option?

[somber prism]

I'm the dlc and i can confirm @fresh pulsar got me for free

[main owl]

Mod io working again?

[whole harness]

new dlc? lets go baby

[main owl]

And also base game update

[whole harness]

ready or not deserves more love

[main owl]

NHA BRO NVG LENSE IS FIRE NOW

[ivory herald]

i think there is a bug with the gas mask i cant change it

BUT THAT G4 IS GREAT

[main owl]

I love this update omg

[main owl]

Long to explain if u want I can show you but you can change it

[stuck kernel]

what mission has the milo room?

[main owl]

Mh?

[empty dove]

Island mission

[stuck kernel]

thanks

[empty dove]

make sure to have C2 for it xD

[stuck kernel]

no handle to pick or locked?

[empty dove]

uhh I don't wanna spoil it too much, so if you want me to tell you everything about it just ask.

[main owl]

W user ❤️

[empty dove]

🫡

[main owl]

my FPS at oil rig going brrrrt

[ivory herald]

same

[prime mist]

gerrat scott on lethal obsession is stitting on the stairs right now, repeating "Moving!" "Taking Cover!" "Bugging Out" "Falling Back". On eternal repeat. lol I should record it, and put some kind of techno, synth track below the voice.

[fading flare]

finally gamepad support very nice

[main owl]

Where’s the keycard on the rig

Nvm

[lethal iron]

hey guys im getting a corrupt data error how do i fix it?

and i dont have any mods

[solid cape]

Post screen of paks folder in https://discord.com/channels/310075021882294272/921527871619620914

[lethal iron]

i just did

[surreal blade]

Hold up wait a minute this DLCS name “dark water” wasn’t that also a mission in mw2 2022?

[rigid tide]

w
w

[jagged cove]

has anyone gotten the 'Party Crasher' achievement?

seems bugged for us

[prime mist]

what do you need the keycard for?

[main owl]

Nahnah nothing

Bc I saw that PC thing idk what was that but it said you needed a keycard to access it but apparently there isn’t one

[rigid coyote]

I have

[dense quail]

hey so anyone else haveing issues playing the game entierly, i can boot it up (sometimes) and go to single or multiplayer but it freezes on 100% and soft crashes and if im extra unlucky it will crash before the main menu, ive tried deleting the game, verifying files, even doing the clean save and starting on safe mode and it keeps crashing when i try to load in

[vapid tiger]

@deep moss welcome welcome

[deep moss]

https://tenor.com/view/woody-toy-story-daddys-home-gif-13675095

[cold lava]

Someone know for what Leviathan key card needed?

[undone bridge]

Dropping chem light

[ancient cedar]

anyone knows for how long will RoN be down on GeForce Now?

[dense quail]

is that why i cant run the fkn game? because im useing NVIDIA?

[molten pasture]

anyone have the bug where all your ammo slots are filled but everyhting is empty?

[atomic copper]

no....

[ancient cedar]

idk it says it's on maintenance, since 8 hours ago

[dense quail]

i havent been able to play for like a month tho.

[molten pasture]

i just logge4d into today to get it : (

[atomic copper]

damm....

[hardy canopy]

You have to complete the level

[raven fossil]

I bought an add-on, but I don't have some clothes, can you tell me what to do?

[jagged cove]

yea i got it now, all i have left is triad

[empty dove]

you did big shell specialist?

[jagged cove]

yea i did, used a friend to bait them and the heli to spot from spawn got both

[empty dove]

nice i just needthat and sleeper agent, S ranks are ready on all 3 of them

[empty dove]

you got it instant right or had to complete?

[jagged cove]

instant no need to complete

[empty dove]

nice

[jagged cove]

okay guys it counts, you can just arrest them and place them really far

[lilac vale]

Did everyone in the party get it or is it only the person who headshotted them?

[empty dove]

oh nice

[jagged cove]

only person who kills but if you arrest a bunch of them and place them far each person gets 2 kills it's pretty easy to get, i did it legit/normally but had really good RNG in spawns

[empty dove]

surprised that works, because it says on ACTIVE suspects

[lilac vale]

Now sleeper agent

[jagged cove]

that one seems hard because you cant kill them i guess?

[lilac vale]

It says arrest or incapacitate 15 of them consecutively with max 15 seconds in between each one

[solid cape]

You can

[jagged cove]

oh then it's easy, is it squad wide or per person?

[lilac vale]

If I had to bet, per person

[lavish charm]

What channel would I go to if I have some questions about the Replay feature? I’ve been having some key bind bugs in the new update

[acoustic cradle]

great update, congrats to the dev team! just final update for the swat team taking cover or utilizing crouch lol

[jagged cove]

finally got 3* achievements (missing one achievement??? hidden)

for triad you can kill them and it counts squad kills too, so shared 15kills everyone gets the achievement and you don't have to complete

[empty dove]

so kills count too, not just incaps or restrained?

[jagged cove]

we went full lethal it worked

[empty dove]

nice only have that 1 left

[jagged cove]

you got the MLO meeting room?

[tranquil loom]

Has anyone figured out how to enable free look camera on controller yet? Took me a while to figure out how to change zoom levels.

[hard trench]

why is every new map a dlc its starting to be cash grab

50€ for base game then 14€ for 6 maps

better would be 2 dlc maps and 1 free at least we would have something else to play

[jagged cove]

i dont see it as an issue we r just paying them for extra content it's dlc afterall

[velvet steppe]

it's not though, only 1 person per lobby needs to have the DLC for everyone to play it

the maps are fantastic for the price, plus cosmetics

[hard trench]

but what if you want to play alone bcs of players that are trolling the lobby

[empty dove]

yeah that was one of the first I did

[jagged cove]

wait WHAT i thought it was still not found, me and my friend have been running around the Triad map for the past 20mins+

[velvet steppe]

then suck it up and buy the DLC, it's not like you have to spend a lot of money for them

[magic nacelle]

epsecially when the maps are mid

[empty dove]

we found it at around 2 hours after dlc was released yesterday

[hard trench]

but why would i pay 10€ for dlc to play for 1 hour

[magic nacelle]

i almost walked past it lol

[cursive dove]

does anyone have a 100 save file with all the cosmetics? The custom. unlocker is broken for me

[hard trench]

go to nexus mods

[magic nacelle]

are you asking for someone to help you pirate dlc cosmetics 😭

[empty dove]

i didnt have a way to unlock it, on my first run if you know what i mean, dont wanna spoil it for the others XD

[cursive dove]

nah i literally cant have mods cuz the dlc breaks it

[magic nacelle]

yea i tried shooting it and then cycled back to my riflke and saw the charge in my inventory

[empty dove]

yea XD

[velvet steppe]

you don't have to unless you want to, that's the point. Also the gameplay changes every time you load a map, they're replayable. Join the VCs on this discord and look for a semi serious/tactical lobby who won't troll

[empty dove]

jeez this last achievement is gonna be tough

[acoustic cradle]

it needs to be updated bro, i think it is not yet updated on nexus

[cursive dove]

I found one with black water support

[hard trench]

k i will try that one day but im just saying that in my opinion beter would be 2 dlc maps and 1 free at least in that one dlc pack the cosmetic isn't that important

[velvet steppe]

it's still good value for money. Plus it helps the devs push quality updates, more maps etc. You could be paying a lot more for a lot less like some other games

[magic nacelle]

it isnt

[jagged cove]

holy complaining just uninstall the game and leave a bad review

[velvet steppe]

ok well that's your opinion, and above it mine

[magic nacelle]

??? why can't I dislike an update but still like the gane

[acoustic cradle]

you can but some opinions need to be kept to yourself

[magic nacelle]

who's gonna stop me

the opinion that these maps missed the mark isnt a hot take lol I'm allowed to have and share my opinion on the game in the games discord

[celest quarry]

oil rig ost fucks hard

[magic nacelle]

ong tho I fw the new OST

[terse fog]

why is it so bright

[magic nacelle]

what

[terse fog]

the graphics feel about 3 times brighter

[boreal pelican]

well why is it so bright?

[velvet steppe]

Possibly to do with the DLSS upgrade?

[celest quarry]

missed having more tense and dynamic soundtracks

[dusty glacier]

New DLC is unplayable I need bright orange coast guard outfits

[magic nacelle]

real

[glad anchor]

Is it just me or is the whole slow surrender thing just annoying at times on mirage at sea?

[kindred ice]

Hey so how do i get acces to the flight suit from the DLC? i have it yet the suit is locked

[tame crown]

its bugged for some people

[kindred ice]

Cos the others are unlocked yeah

[lost mango]

Should we expect a patch soon idk how quick they get them out

[tame crown]

idk probably, the first patch for home invasion took 3 days so id imagine it'd be around the same time frame

[lilac vale]

Kam is formulating a sentence to avoid making us upset...

[gaunt holly]

I'm here to be upset. That can change depending on what kaminsky says

[rigid bone]

Sorry for the late reply, just catching up on everything.

At the moment we are fixing the game, when DLC is being produced it's a simultaneous workflow of our Artists and Modelers creating the new content while the Engineers and Programmers do exactly what you're requesting.

While DLSS is still having issues and some of the longer standing issues still have some degree of extra work required, that doesn't discount all of the fixes that were indeed shipped and that will continute to be shipped as post-DLC patches.

[magic nacelle]

out of curiosity are you guys aware of how bugged the new resistance animations are

[glad anchor]

Yeah and the slow surrender is like done 75% of the time on mirage, which wastes a lot of time

[magic nacelle]

this isnt me being an asshole ive noticed that suspects and civs who undergo the new animations will start to clip into themselves and ive had a few situations where a suspect very slowly raises his gun towards me and aims directly at me and i sill get UOF for shooting him

[rigid bone]

They were intended to be slower and force players to watch suspects a little closer

[magic nacelle]

im assuming they arent working as intended

[glad anchor]

But on Mirage? the map where the map has hostages getting shot after enough time?

[rigid bone]

The suspect pointing the gun is a part of the surrender animation, that's part of the 'watch suspects' part since if you move out of the way the guns don't track you

[magic nacelle]

well yea but if a suspect raises his gun towards me at all regardless of surrendering then its justifiable to shoot him regardless of if hes tracking me with it

no ones first reaction when a suspect raises their gun is to move out of the way lol

[glad anchor]

I still think it be nice if a "Tackle" or a assist in speeding the process up if you have one aimed at the suspect and one behind him

[nocturne steeple]

I still dislike the unauthorized use of force pen
Shooting a tango who's rising his weapon in a terrorist attack discounting you 50 points aint funny

[magic nacelle]

exactly! i dont care if the suspect is doing it by mistake or isnt tracking me with it or whatever other excuse there is, hes raising his gun towards me and posing a deadly threat if he chooses to resist

[rigid bone]

You still get the UOF because they're in the middle of surrendering

[magic nacelle]

ok but theyre raising their gun at me after having it pointed away from me 😭 thats not invalid use of force

[rigid bone]

We are very likely going to be tuning the animation a smidge because it is not communicated the best, it being faster should alleviate some of the problems

[magic nacelle]

if the suspects are going to be aiming their guns at us during the animation at all then making them faster will make the issue worse, not better

[nocturne steeple]

It's just the concept of UUOF.
In a terror attack who's tango counts exceeds a certain number, usually 3 shooters, the use of lethal force is authorized in almost all law enforcement forces

[rigid bone]

You're also still a Law Enforcement Officer, not a Tier 1 operator that's clearing out a compund

[magic nacelle]

ok but im a law enforcement officer that has an assault rifle being pointed at me

[rigid bone]

You're still bound by the concept of Justifiable Use of Force

[magic nacelle]

am i not speaking english 😭 the suspect is pointing his firearm directly at me and has previously demonstrated intent to use it

[nocturne steeple]

There's an issue, you're an op.
The SWAT team in the US and the GEO in Spain are both elite law enforcement units with pretty similar training as military troops

[magic nacelle]

there is no universe where shooting the suspect who has just intentionally raised his loaded firearm towards you, especially when theyre a terrorist, is not justifiable use of force

[uneven basin]

https://tenor.com/view/want-you-to-do-it-gif-20550570

[nocturne steeple]

They also have access to heavy weapons, and their deployment means for them to get an already lost situation for normal law enforcement officers dealt with

[nocturne steeple]

There's also that obvious sight which I ignored for being stupidly obvious, lmao

[magic nacelle]

if void is going to ask a local swat team to go full maritime on domestic terrorists then we shouldnt also be expected to abide by standard use of force policy

and even by that standard uof policy most of the use of forces we're describing would still be justified

[rigid bone]

That goes away the second the suspect demonstrates intent to surrender or intent to cease hostilities, that's the break point that turns them from a legal target to a grey one.

[digital canopy]

Is there a channel for feature requests?

[magic nacelle]

ok but when theyre raising their firearm at me then theyre demonstrating an intent to harm; regardless of if theyve previously demonstrated intent to surrender

[nocturne steeple]

The moment they raise their weapons against you, you're free to pull the trigger.
That's global in all law enforcement forces worldwide

[magic nacelle]

^^ the suspect poses a lethal threat to me, other officers, and civilians when they raise their firearm regardless of if their on their knees or standing

what youre describing is a technical loophole; its like saying if a suspect says theyre surrendering and then points their gun at me i shouldnt shoot them

[glad anchor]

Someone surrendering also doesn't lay their guns out aimed to the officers as well, they'd put it to the side or away. EVEN if false surrender they're trying to play a game of chance.

[uneven basin]

my two cents - the biggest part of the animations that concerns me is the switch from lowering the gun with the offhand to suddenly swapping out and scooting the finger back onto the trigger guard. that makes me tense up much more than just the gun being in my general direction

[rigid bone]

#1050529506022137876

[magic nacelle]

^^ the suspect shouldnt even have a hand on the gun if theyre surrendering

hell it'd be better if we had to disarm the suspects ourselves instead of expecting that when they aim their firearm at us they wont shoot at us. i feel this is extremely prevelant in maps like yacht where the suspects are literally described as loyalists that will do anything to protect their leader

[nocturne steeple]

There's also something called false surrender.
Suspects can be seen as trying to declare their cease of hostilities only for them to raise their firearms.
||It has also been seen in scholar shootouts, as well as officers putting shooters down as soon as they saw a weapon being pointed at all||

[magic nacelle]

which is exactly whats running through my mind when a suspect raises his loaded, non-safetied firearm at me after getting on his knees

[glad anchor]

Even if they're false surrendering, they wont aim at the officer cause that's not generally a good idea. Their intention during a false surrender would very likely be to try to quickly swing the gun from being pointed away to at the officer then shooting.

[magic nacelle]

i understand what point youre trying to make kam but it would make a little more sense if it was something more like them tossing their firearm to the side very quickly or going to unload it / put it on safe. aiming their gun at me automatically invalidates intent to surrender

[uneven basin]

fair to say tweaks to the anim have a great potential to fix this entirely?

[glad anchor]

Just make them aim it to the side

[magic nacelle]

id like to remind you that most of the suspects we encounter are terrorists, t1 operators, and seasoned private security agents, whom are dedicated to their cause either by money or by mind

[nocturne steeple]

I just use No Mercy For Terrorists mod.
Green light to slaughter them.

[magic nacelle]

im aware that we arent t1 operators clearing out compounds, but we are elite operatives clearing out compounds, and certain stipulations come with that especially when large amounts of high value civilians are involved

[nocturne steeple]

Unless we're talking of singular shooters or scholar shotouts, special ops wont care about a Tango's life and will open fire in sight.
6 civs are more valuable than a tango

[magic nacelle]

kams argument makes more sense on a map like 4u gas, where its just a group of young adults robbing a convenience store, although even then theyve demonstrated intent to kill civilians

[glad anchor]

Mainly I feel like 2 things need to be improved:

1. the whole slow surrender thing should have a function where you can tackle to speed the process up.
2. The animation should have the suspects aim their gun away while putting it down.

[magic nacelle]

this is something i will always believe void gets wrong; we're expected to prioritize suspect life over our own and over civilian safety to get an A+/S score

also completely separate note has anyone noticed that suspects only really react to the flash part of the flashbang and not the bang part

[nocturne steeple]

I don't really know anyone on the GEO corps, my country's special ops group, but Im friends with a national cop.
Most of what Im saying here as been said by himself.
If they have to deal with multiple armed suspects they'll open fire, while they'll try to arrest a lone shooter

[magic nacelle]

going up against 1 or 2 suspects implies wildly different uof standards than going up against 10 or 20

[river phoenix]

And allows for different pacing and planning ^

[magic nacelle]

kams gone so im assuming everything we're saying is falling on deaf ears (although it probably was before anyways 😭), im going back to ravenfield

[nocturne steeple]

And for the 19967th time, terrorists and old grandpas shouldn't have faster reaction times than elite ops.
Lmao.

[magic nacelle]

its not really reaction times in alot of cases, but i definitely dont understand how methheads are always so tactical

enemies should have different combat behaviours based on their types; drug addicts for example would be more sporatic, aggressive, but would also make far more mistakes in their movement. a t1 operator would take more steps to set themselves up for an engagement, plan ambushes, etc

[uneven basin]

the first shot accuracy to me is the metric

[nocturne steeple]

Me when Im trying to breach a room without any windows to the exterior getting shot through the door:

[magic nacelle]

i mean if i was cracked out defending myself from a police raid and i heard someone kicking at the door i could see the reaction of shooting through it

[cursive dove]

anybody wanna play the dark waters with me, the ai sucks ass

[inland willow]

is voip really quiet for you guys and guyettes too?

[cursive dove]

i had to bump it up alot since nobody could hear me

[inland willow]

it wasn't that bad before the dlc dropped

[dusk elbow]

One of my friends has a shit pc and wants to play the game on geforce now but its under maintanence bc of the update i assume, when will it be fixed on geforce now

[novel patio]

6 months or so

[red hamlet]

is it just me, or the loading screen won't load ? or the game keeps crashing ?

[dusk elbow]

do you have mods

[red hamlet]

no i moved them to a seperate file and it still not loading

[magic pecan]

Did you download the mods manually or through mod.io?

[red hamlet]

nexus

[magic pecan]

Ok so you will probably have to clean out the paks folder and verify game files

[void sable]

How is the heli cam enabled? Is it a keybind I’m missing?

[dusk elbow]

yeah i wanted to know that too

[lilac vale]

Hold TAB and bottom left 'Helicopter cam'

[dusk elbow]

reinstall the game man idk

[void sable]

Appreciate u good sir

[rigid bone]

You have to clear your configs in Appdata too

[cerulean totem]

i hope the new PC gets pouches

[novel patio]

Agree the rail on the m14 is nightmare inducing

[astral relic]

I wish the oil rig map was set at night, there’s hardly any missions to use NVGs on

[rare pumice]

SCAR-H is damned epic tho

[ivory herald]

performance still bad

[astral sun]

anyone find a way to remap your gamepad controls since this update?

I hate the lean via joystick click. ReWASD and steam mapping just cause me to have double or triple inputs rn

[mint coral]

Is it just me or do the ai seem more competent after the update?

[gaunt jolt]

is there 1 missions taken out of home invasion dlc there is only 1 available

[formal belfry]

On commander mode you need to play them in order at least once. Quickplay you can do all 3 maps

[novel patio]

They seem just as dumb as they used to be

[formal belfry]

Are the new dlc achievements sleeper agents unlockable on multiplayer

[formal belfry]

Only the ai on the new maps have been changed

[novel patio]

And the only major difference is they’ll bum rush you at random

Did they fix the 100% accuracy at long range? Nah

Did they fix AI derendering at long distances? Nope

Did they fix AI occasionally not being affected by drums? No

Did they fix AI tracking and watching you through the map so it can beam you the nanosecond a pixel of you is exposed? Nah

[charred rain]

Why do my weapons keep resetting all the time?

[novel patio]

It’s bugged at the moment.

[charred rain]

I hope they resolve this

[novel patio]

Would be good if they did yeah

[charred rain]

I'm trying to get S rank on all maps

[plush panther]

I'm curious why the HK51 has less recoil then the mk17

[wise scroll]

They made the unauthorized use of force much worse

[sacred flame]

the border one is good

[wise scroll]

Your telling me when they point their gun at me when setting it down like they are fake surrender I can't shoot them?

[livid depot]

did atf route with friend

[wise scroll]

Not a real American police simulator if I can't unload into a surrendering suspect

[livid depot]

got roasted by TOC, 10/10 game
also wtf is with the 30 sec cooldown in gen?

[sacred flame]

get the no mercy for terrorists mod

[night oxide]

no

[wise scroll]

Like your telling me they can shoot 4 hostage and them when they throw they gun up and I'm still shooting I'm the bad guy?

[night oxide]

yes

[wise scroll]

No 😥 I'm good guy

[analog yarrow]

is anybody else game freezing when they start it

[sacred flame]

pc specs?

[analog yarrow]

4070 ti and i5 13400f nd my game literally wont even start just a black screen

[hardy canopy]

Wdym why

[night oxide]

Have u updated ur drivers?

[novel patio]

They overestimated the games popularity

Alternately slowing down chat means people can’t threaten the developers as frequently so that may be it too

[analog yarrow]

yeah

[novel patio]

Isn’t the mk17 famous for having an absolutely stupid amount of recoil

[night oxide]

Im guessing ur files are either corrupted or u forgot to uninstall some mod

[magic nacelle]

kams logic was that theyve "demonstrated intent to surrender" even though theyre raising their loaded firearm at you

[analog yarrow]

gonna restart my pc

[novel patio]

Either way it’s a full game reinstall

[novel patio]

I have yet to see this new animation.

Do they lower their gun and then raise it at you before surrendering?

[magic nacelle]

they painstakingly slowly get down on their knees, aim their gun at the ground, and then raise it up at you for like 5 seconds

[subtle locust]

MY games jsut hard crashing on every launch cant even pass the first intro splash. No clue whats got it doing some nonsense

[novel patio]

I dicked around in the yacht map for like 4 hours last night how did I not see that

[magic nacelle]

stress

[novel patio]

Verify files then completely reinstall the game

[magic nacelle]

if youre going loud suspect stress raises quickly which means suspects are less likely to be surprised and surrender

[hardy canopy]

I mean yeah, kinda. 762 nato with a short stroke piston kinda the recipe for that @novel patio

[analog yarrow]

nvm u were right it was drivers☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️

[clear silo]

where can i find patch notes for the DLC update? cant find them anywhere, not sure if im being dumb

[analog yarrow]

or whoever said ts idk😪

[subtle locust]

#announcements message

[plush panther]

Maybe cause irl scars don't have much recoil and the game itself says the GA51 has increased recoil requiring skill to use, except it has virtually no recoil and recenters after every shot even in full auto

[novel patio]

Suspect stress feels like it’s 100 or nothing because I have yet to see anyone surrender without a flashbang or gas and even then it’s 50/50

[clear silo]

ty lol not sure why it isn't in the channel labeled "patch notes"

[subtle locust]

did that

[novel patio]

Nah they’re famous for being terrible to use lmao

[magic nacelle]

thats because everything you do raises suspect stress; and on alot of maps the thresholds are very low. there are subtle differences though; suspects will be more or less aggressive, they may hesitate more at lower stress, etc

[plush panther]

I dunno man Ive shot a Mk17, it was really nice

[night oxide]

Lmfao

[novel patio]

Refund the game claiming the update broke it and you can no longer use the product you paid money for.

[subtle locust]

I tired that back when it ws in beta, didnt work then either

[hardy canopy]

The hk51 should have more recoil yes but idk if the mk17 should have any less

[plush panther]

Not saying the Mk17 should have less, it is a recoily gun, but it's controlable irl, I just don't get why the gun the game says has a lot of recoil, has like none

[sacred flame]

its a bug qith intel processors they aint fix yet

[hardy canopy]

Could just be an error

[sacred holly]

Hi

[novel patio]

Lots of those at the moment

[plush panther]

It seems to recoil the exact same pattern as the G3

[night oxide]

This isnt csgo. No spray patterns here

[hardy canopy]

I think the g3 has more tbh

[plush panther]

Then you shoot the scar and it's like your driving on Oklahoma streets

[night oxide]

What

[hardy canopy]

But out of all the battle rifles it should have the least to make any kinda sense. That thing is the length of a barrett

[subtle locust]

weight= recoil managment

[novel patio]

Honestly just wish they’d let us get rid of the fuck ugly tan colouring on the guns

[plush panther]

Fde looks nice tho, in the proper color

[subtle locust]

more weight = less energy transfer from recoil

[novel patio]

Fde?

Also what new cosmetics did we even get we got a flight suit and a helmet was there anything else?

[rigid coyote]

So I should be as heavy as possible?

[night oxide]

No, fatass

[hardy canopy]

There's a lot that goes into it. Especially the gas action

[subtle locust]

lemme know how it works out for you

[plush panther]

My marlin 1895 is a short boom stick, I need it in the game

45-70 is the best cqc round and you can't deny that, altho your shoulder might try

[novel patio]

I mean we just got some extremely outdated and obsolete guns so what’s the harm in that

@green wasp lmao yes it’s bugged

[green wasp]

Dawg Im trying to put my entire AI team non lethal, but every time I do, it changes the loadout back to default is this a bug?

[subtle locust]

sure lots of factors, i just mean in terms of JUST the rifle, and why the g3 gets less on recoil stats. Its a big weapon, gets away with more.

[green wasp]

😐 bruh

[plush panther]

Bullets are bullets, it may be outdated but will never be obsolete until you can't get ammo for it
You may get outguned but you at least can fight back

[novel patio]

Either way F90 is still the best rifle in the game

[hardy canopy]

The best at being ugly as fuck

[plush panther]

Steyr Augs are nice and I wanna get one but they do be like 2k
Still cheaper then a scar tho

[novel patio]

Don’t think the f90 is technically steyr

Australia used to license build AUGs but steyr cocked up the measurements so Australia and nz had the most unreliable AUGs ever built

[hardy canopy]

The F90 is not a Steyr is it

I would much rather have an Aug A3 in the game over the F90 tbh

[queen arrow]

got same issue

[plush panther]

It's a development of the Steyr Aug

[subtle locust]

id argue it becomes obsolete when you cant get ammo REASONABLY and for a cost effective price. If it costs more to shoot than readily available calibers that perform near to or at the same level for a lower price point, then your into like obsolesce territory.

[plush panther]

Yea, altho even tho it's like 1.50-2$ a round it's hard to find something that performs like a 45-70, that's also as fun to shoot

[novel patio]

Isn’t that a repeater round

[plush panther]

It's a rimmed big boy round, kicks like a mule, good for short range high stopping power

Basically a 50bmg for when your target is in thick brush and is less then 300m away
Great for defense from larger predators that wanna get too close, hence why I keep a short 16" barrel one

[peak gyro]

void needs to make a VR version of RON

you guys could be billionaires 🤩

[wise scroll]

Would be pretty hard to do

But It would make a good deal of money I think

[peak gyro]

100%, but if they managed to do it they'd own the industry, nobody has good PD virtual reality games

[plush panther]

Tbh I think VR has kinda gone down hill with the quest, cus everyone wants to make games that can be ran easily on it, so it leads to lot of basic stuff
That and a lot of kids use the quest

[peak gyro]

yea true, we just lack actual GOOD vr games, and you can port it into Rift and not Quest so you get a little more of the advanced gamer

[steep wedge]

Talk Tuah

[plush panther]

Half life alyx was great, so much detail and played well

[modest fern]

RoN has a VR mod (probably needs to be updated from UE4 to UE5) that is the Phasmophobia approach of just making you a vr character in a normal game world

[wise scroll]

That's valve valve developers just make anything good.

Valve devs could pick up a turd and it would become the best thing to grace this earth, Just like Rockstar Developers

[plush panther]

Phasma VR always ticks me off, it never gets my height right, so Im either a giant or a short person and it just frustrates me
Ah man you wanna be a normal good height, yea man we don't do that here

[brazen yarrow]

why does ready or not crash when i j load the game

[modest fern]

Remove any mods you may have had

And no beggin for games

[little hawk]

I remember seeing someone play Lawmaker with a VR mod but idk if it's public yet or not.

[twin coral]

Looking rifle, its performance is dookie

[flint hill]

hey so i got the dark waters dlc but one of the cosmetics arent letting me wear it even though i have the dlc does anyone know how to fix this

[boreal star]

Have you?

[formal belfry]

No, why would I be asking otherwise...

[boreal star]

This guy did

[novel patio]

5.56 what do you expect.

[boreal star]

Could you give us a hint?

[modest fern]

#❗known-issues-and-fixes

[modest fern]

I can give you a hint

[scarlet creek]

The room in question ||doesn't have a door||

[twin coral]

ok fair

[boreal star]

Looks like my friends are giving up
Is there any landmark?

[modest fern]

You will need to enter the room with a bang in order to clear the steam obscuring your mind.

[scarlet creek]

that's a great hint I love it

[bright sandal]

Oh btw I still feel recoil is a bit too high in game

[scarlet creek]

Yes, I can give you several hints

1. ||You'll need C2, and it won't show that you can use it unless you have the C2 in hands||
2. ||It's around the small pool that sometimes has the main objective||
3. ||Precisely, it's in the changing/shower room right next to the small pool room ||
4. ||Search for some red construction markings in the room in question||

[bright sandal]

I shot a real full auto AR15 recently and even as a complete beginner it felt very controllable (this is just my excuse to flex shooting full auto)

but yeah a SWAT operator shouldnt have that much recoil on full auto

[modest fern]

Player control > Larp control

[bright sandal]

wdym

[scarlet creek]

Has anyone been able to get the sleeper agent achievement ? It's the last one I need
I have tried some strats (full lethal run & gun, beanbag shotgun and getting the AI to restrain the suspects slowly, using tear gas) but none of them seem to work, I'm just too slow I think
Also the achievement says "apprehend or incapacitate", does killing work too ?
I play solo with AI, maybe it's much easier with friends, if anyone has a good strat I'm quite interested

[modest fern]

I prefer games where I have to manage my control instead of having no recoil because of the story

[bright sandal]

I guess you have a point there

I also shot a full auto M1A1 Thompson and that thing does kick alot

[little hawk]

Bots with new DLC guns, bum rush the whole map basically. That's my guess. I'm gonna attempt this achievement today. I'm not 100% if killing ruins it.

[bright sandal]

for example, I could pretty easily magdump the AR, while the Thompson I could only manage short bursts

[boreal star]

Thx so much

[little hawk]

Doesn't a Thompson shoot twice as fast as an AR? I'm not a gun expert but I would think RPM is a bit of a factor.

[scarlet creek]

I really hope I can just kill, I tried the run & gun with the MK17, no success, I'll try again later

[bright sandal]

the M1A1s shoot slower than the "gangster" Thompsons

[scarlet creek]

No problem 🫡

[bright sandal]

says 600rpm here for the M1A1 while the earlier models were like 900

[boreal star]

Thank you too. I was ready to play that game, but my friends weren't:(

[gaunt holly]

Thompson also has a much shorter barrel length. Assuming bro's AR was a 16 incher. And the gas systems are completely different

[bright sandal]

I can dm you the videos if you want

[little hawk]

I see why they'd chop the stock off. Lighter and it didn't make a fucking difference in control anyways I guess lol

[flint hill]

thank you! i didnt see that the first time

[livid depot]

ready or not resets my team's loadout for no reason

[empty dove]

oh sry was on another game, you still need the info?

[boreal star]

Its ok, other dudes helped

[empty dove]

ah ok nice

[tiny flower]

any idea why it wont let me use the pheonix flight suit, i got the dlc

[modest fern]

#❗known-issues-and-fixes

[modest fern]

^

[dusk egret]

your profile overstimulates me

[modest fern]

Good

[pale rain]

This new dlc maps are soo good, next we need sniper support and 747 map.

[quick cedar]

whats begging for games

[quick cedar]

i forgot heli existed most of my playthrough tbh

[north musk]

haha doubt they do snipers

i want an embassy map like from 6 days with the sas or airplane from the gign

[uneven basin]

I think an airport would be way better than a plane

[stone patio]

No more mods 😭

[north musk]

your right but like with the plane at the end with a bomb in it, similar to real life

[north musk]

why

[runic aspen]

Ground Branch has an Airplane map, its cool but also really stale

[magic nacelle]

i think the helicopter is more for the aesthetic; knowing that a suspect is on the other side of the map isnt super helpful

[uneven basin]

Yeah, maybe, but it would have to be a small plane if it's also an airport level

[north musk]

true true

[frank plover]

using nivida low latency is fine right? if im on a amd gpu

useally nividia feutures want you to spend 2000£ on a 4090

[astral relic]

Did they change the name of the pepperball assault rifle? I dont remember it being named the VPL 25

[pale rain]

@runic aspen is ground branch any good, i was thinking of buying it?

[lilac vale]

Yes it was named VKS before

[astral relic]

thank u i thought i was tripping

[hallow stump]

Anyone know when they’re going to release a new patch because single player is just fucked now

[empty dove]

yea due to copyright most likely

[vale glacier]

Wdym

[hallow stump]

Editing your load out and your AI’s loadout will just reset your loadout

[vale glacier]

For me that isnt an issue, maybe try checking ur mods

[hallow stump]

Removed my mods then played on safe mode

[gaunt holly]

I never change my loadout so I don't have that problem 💅

[vale glacier]

Idk then but I already customized my weapons since the update and it works properly for me

[hallow stump]

On single player?

[vale glacier]

Quick play

[hallow stump]

Huh, idk then, I’ll prob verify files

[vale glacier]

I mean I customized my weapons on multiplayer but solo, and it automatically applied it to quick play

[stone patio]

The update lol?

[gaunt holly]

Did coffee speed get added back?

[proper nimbus]

I’m already hearing that a handful of popular mods are already back up again.

Though the next handful of patches for the dlc are probably gonna break some again though correct?

[prisma quartz]

hello

[white oxide]

Does the ingame modio still not work?

[modest fern]

It installs correctly as of this update

[white oxide]

Oh nice thank god, I wasn’t bothered going through nexus and was waiting for it to be fixed

[quick cedar]

its fine game it just needs more frequent updates

[mighty ibex]

Any lapd patrol l mods that work

[gaunt holly]

Nope

[rigid bone]

Most mods won't be updated at the moment

[lilac vale]

Only like 6 have been updated so far

So give modders time to cook their pak files and then you can enjoy mods in their glory. Not the moderation team but actual mods

[terse fog]

chat what do you prefer Alfa Romeo Giulia Quadrifoglio or Mitsubishi Eclipse Cross

[lilac vale]

Neither, Honda civic

[terse fog]

Yeah but between the 2

[lilac vale]

The second one

[waxen latch]

Rule of thumb

2 weeks before most mods start getting updates

The most popular modders will try to have something for release, but it will break

After the first fix patch or second

[stuck kernel]

are the acheviments sync with multiplayter

[lilac vale]

Most of them yes

[long acorn]

how do i access the new DLC content?

[stuck kernel]

how do i now my kills are 30m+

[fallen sail]

yes

[lilac vale]

You don’t

[fallen sail]

Just try shooting from the helipad i guess, that's like the longest sightlines

[simple ingot]

So is judge former usia

[lilac vale]

Who? Oh that dude. Uh probs or just his dad looking for him

[mighty ibex]

What gun should I use

[simple ingot]

Huh

[gaunt holly]

Any gun. 30m is not far at all. It's like crossing the street

[mighty ibex]

What gun should I use

[gaunt holly]

Sr16. It's the best gun in the game

[mighty ibex]

What’s the actual name anyways I can prob use any gun I’m using gunfighter rn

[gaunt holly]

Sr16

[mighty ibex]

So 300 blk is actually good prob gonna use the smal dr14

[runic aspen]

any mods out yet that work with the update?

[mighty ibex]

Gunfighter

[simple ingot]

Gun fighter no crack cosmetic fix

[runic aspen]

no gun mods yet tho?

[simple ingot]

I think there’s 2 on nexus but I’m assuming a patch is coming soon so it’d break anyway

[runic aspen]

ohh alright thanks, ill just stick to no mods for now

[simple ingot]

Vanilla aesthetic

[stuck kernel]

im so lost on this milo room

[mighty ibex]

Use gunfighter it’s 1000 times better

[hardy canopy]

@rigid bonehas suenos ball always been there downstairs

[modest fern]

Yes

[rigid bone]

[stuck kernel]

also what do i do with this unstable bomb

[halcyon anchor]

nothing, tag it and keep moving

[waxen latch]

https://tenor.com/view/oppenheimer-atom-nuclear-fission-gif-8314897022799710302

[simple ingot]

So judge is former usia and the MLO exist?

[native canyon]

0311

[simple ingot]

Is that who we are against on the resort map?

[native canyon]

The skill level checks

[simple ingot]

Huh

[native canyon]

Oh I thought you were commenting on 0311

[simple ingot]

What’s 0311

[native canyon]

Our MOS code for US Marines Infantry

[mighty ibex]

Bro can traps be above the door handle

[runic aspen]

whys my laser bind not working in game but only in the range

[steep forge]

Mod io still doesn't work?

[worn solar]

What's the last secret achievement? I have the one about the ||MLO meeting room||

But it says there's another one, I have all the achievement before this last update

[maiden jay]

||see yourself on the helicopter camera feed||

[simple turret]

no, use nexus mods instead

[tired swift]

Is it possible to not have any hostages killed on the yatch mission in single player?

[worn solar]

Thank you.

[median egret]

yes,spawn on the pilot deck and try to find this man that gives execution orders,he is usually on the deck lower, your heli often can spot him too

[tired swift]

lol don't even know that man was special. Thanks

[maiden jay]

my pleasure, now can you help me understand why i didnt get the beat cop achievo despite... doing it perfectly

[median egret]

well he is the boss on that yacht xD
also usually he is not having guns on him,but he likes to not surrender easily

[worn solar]

Just use pisstol, dont equip ANYTHING else, maybe?

[median egret]

you can still use tools such as breaching shotgun

[nimble wedge]

so i bought the dark waters dlc, the missions show up in my game, and it shows up in my purchases but it says i cant acces the clothing, and that its not in my library

[nimble wedge]

and whats up with having to get grades on missions that dont exist yet? ridgeline, importer, etc

[maiden jay]

did that lol

made all officers hold, incapped/killed all suspects, didnt use anything else except for the pistol to do it

[plush nest]

hey guys im stuck in correctional and cantg gedt out what do i do#

[maiden jay]

am i not allowed to do it in free play mode or smth

[worn solar]

do it in multiplayer friends only solo

[plush nest]

hey guys im stuck in correctional and cantg gedt out what do i do#

[graceful plover]

I have a quick question. I have the Dark Water DLC but I was wondering if the glowing names on AI work on the base game

[mighty ibex]

Bro what they just take orders from that man and don’t care if there’s no orders

[modest fern]

Those are part of the base game, yes

The DLC is just the 3 missions and the VBSS set, while there are some unique things to the missions, those aren't one of them

[graceful plover]

For some reason the names on seem to work in the Dark Waters DLC, any of the other maps I play they don't seem to work.

[waxen latch]

some behaviors are being tested with the new maps to later implement into the base game.

but thats complex

[mighty ibex]

Guys on the one dude trapped house mission I was walking and heard an ai explode himself

[modest fern]

You mean the name on the SWAT AI vests, right?

[graceful plover]

Correct

[median egret]

they execute hostages only after Sah’id order,i dont really know how it works,but if you cuff him before,there will be no active shooter situation

[mighty ibex]

WHAT THATS NEAT

[modest fern]

Just to be sure, are you giving them loadouts that have name plates? Not every rig has a name plate, for example LSPD heavy doesn't

[maiden jay]

bet

[mighty ibex]

Oh that makes more sense but if he dies do they still kill

[graceful plover]

ahh that could be it, I am using all SWAT 99

[modest fern]

You can turn the character around in the loadout menu to see if it has it or not

[median egret]

no i think, but you need him as objective so better capture him

[graceful plover]

Cool I'll try that, thanks for the help.

[modest fern]

^

Can confirm that it works on base game maps

[mighty ibex]

Hehehe no I’ll “accidently” shoot him in the head with. A beanbag

[median egret]

valid point

[mighty ibex]

After I finish this mission I’m finna go play wit someone for new dlc maps

[modest fern]

Me realizing that these poor teenagers are about to get face fulls of g3

[mighty ibex]

Oh oh no

I accidently killed every hostage on the hospital map with the g3

[quartz hawk]

Is it still worth it to play RON?

[worn solar]

Definitely, 100%. Me and my friend have spent the whole day just doing the new dlc's achievements

[unkempt oracle]

did they ruin mods again

[waxen latch]

thats what updates do

yes

[unkempt oracle]

y did it ruin all of them tho fuck

[waxen latch]

cause, changes

[modest fern]

Cause when you update the game things that aren't updated become outdated

[magic nacelle]

core changes to the game requires core changes to the mods

[unkempt oracle]

Damn, im fucked

[random bane]

literally unavoidable for Void so there's nothing they can do

[formal river]

game updates, new code, mods gotta update

[unkempt oracle]

I’ll figure it out, prolly code some stuff and give up

[timber portal]

Holy shit, S-ranking Elephant feels like it got a lot harder after the update

was there a change to Suspect AI that makes them more likely to shoot civvies right off the bat?

[modest fern]

If you put pressure on em, I think it's always been like that

Would have to check the patchnotes since they did tweak base maps

[timber portal]

When I did my intitial playthrough going lethal, it felt like they didnt start shooting civvies until 4ish minutes. Now, im lucky to get 120 seconds before they pop some poor kid

[modest fern]

Your sense of time was just mixed up

Always been 2-3 mins

[waxen latch]

i see what you did there

[river phoenix]

It can be kinda random too. There have been times when (before the update) I've loaded up and off the bat, shots fired. Other times it'll take a few minutes. I guess it depends on where they spawn and maybe some other small rng elements.

[random bane]

heheh wasn't even intentional

[timber portal]

Whatever, at least that level is done. Feel like it would be infinitely easier if there was an option to give the AI for "dont cuff anyone except suspects while clearing rooms"

[river phoenix]

Honestly you're better off getting a buddy and just charging it with two. beanbag shotgun W

[timber portal]

Trying to S-rank commander mode

[random bane]

All of the new missions are going to be hell to S rank lol

[river phoenix]

Oh geez, nevermind.

I didn't know we had the honor of chatting with John Sueños

[timber portal]

Yea, trying to S rank ||the giant resort|| sounds like an awful time

[empty dove]

I'd say first 2 are not that hard, last one however is quite the challenge.

[random bane]

Mirage at Sea has cracked suspects, and a invisible timer that tells the AI to go shoot every civvie
Leviathan is relatively easy enough, but still fairly complex in terms of the environment
3 Letter Triad... Fuck that. It's fuck-off huge and has ||literal special forces pmcs as the suspects and is filled to the brim with open spaces where non-lethal weapons would suck because of the projectile travel speed||

[river phoenix]

For what it's worth, Mirage at sea becomes (redacted) lol

[timber portal]

Mirage gets a lot easier if you can snag ||the HVT early, since he gives the order to kill civvies||

[random bane]

Yeah. Getting Sah'id is priority otherwise you're screwed

[river phoenix]

PSA for S-ranking Triad:
|| Gas, Gas Gas.||
|| Conventionally, a team will break into a room with the same traditional cqb concepts, but dealing with large rooms (especially when you KNOW a lot of the rooms are massive) come down to starving out the people inside. Gas helps with this, and so does picking apart a room from the outside as much as possible. Clear in blocks and utilize the multi-team function to move your second set of muzzles to a supporting position for the large rooms. That's how we did it at least :)||

[timber portal]

Yea, im entirely convinced that triad has ||suspects that are wearing flash-proof goggles, earlier today I dumped at least 3 flashes into a single room trying to get a guy to surrender and he just tanked it and shot me in the jaw for my troubles||

[random bane]

Some one would have to test ||but half the suspects are private military ex spec ops guys. wouldn't be surprised if they have flash goggles like we can have||

[river phoenix]

|| And even if they didn't, eating a flash becomes super doable by experienced personnel ||

[stone raven]

how do you change zoom on the ATAK sight?

[river phoenix]

I'm getting my guys to do a full-scale raid on Triad soon. I'll probably get clips and post them somewhere.

[random bane]

Annoyingly you can't.

I really REALLY hope they implement adjustable sight zoom. It would make the LVPO and SpectreDR actually viable

[stone raven]

oh that's annoying

[timber portal]

Im kinda of the opinion that all of the new DLC maps would be significantly improved if you could do 2 teams of 5

like, the maps themselves are really good, but they all feel too big to effectively clear as a small squad

[jolly trench]

should i uninstall delta force to play the new RoN update? i dont wanna miss the challenges but i wanna play ron

[twin venture]

The maps aren’t as big as you think. Not even Hide and Seek big. Just a lot of empty space really after playing them a few times. Incredibly detailed, but not crazy amount of enemies for the map size.

[timber portal]

I kinda wanted to play delta force, but Im not gonna install a game with a kernel level anticheat that has documented security issues

[empty dove]

I think last map is bigger than hide and seek with all the floors it has tbh, also has around same suspect count as hide and seek. Other 2 maps are short and easy though.

[jolly trench]

what documented security issues? the fearmongering?

[glass dock]

Where's the lore channel

[timber portal]

Nah bro, theres an actual report on Defense Tech where their anticheat doesnt stop a .sys attack

[jolly trench]

whats a .sys attack

[glass dock]

Anywhere I can check out the lore?

[timber portal]

TLDR its where a driver can be installed to escalate privileges from a low privilege user account to admin/system account

[tall canopy]

anyone have suspects downed but no prompt to restrain or anything??

[jolly trench]

also kernel level anticheat isnt that big of a deal, it sucks sure and doesnt do the job its supposed to but people play valorant all the time and it has the same issue, (cant understand why people like that shit game)

[modest fern]

Did you by chance take their head off (figuratively or literally?)

[green tusk]

Or arm or leg

[tall canopy]

we did now lol but at first beanbag down with hands up

couldn ask to move either

[timber portal]

well yea, dead people cant move silly

[tall canopy]

he was alive at the time

[glass dock]

Does anyone play for the story

[timber portal]

Its kinda hard to play specifically for the story

[glass dock]

No way! How so?

[timber portal]

Its very dark-souls esque, where the gameplay is the primary reason to play, and the story is hidden just far enough out of sight to be obscure or vague enough to never get 100% tied down

[glass dock]

The storytelling in the level design and the hidden suspects tied to other venues is awesome to me but I'm a dork in that sense

[waxen dome]

Ready or Not

[timber portal]

Dont get me wrong, the storytelling is sick and done very well, but its not something that immediately jumps out at you if you dont go looking for it

[glass dock]

U do have a decent understand of the story and how a lot of the maps are connected, or did that go over your head, tbh it went so far over my head the first few times I just looked at it like a shooter

[glass dock]

I understand now, that's a great way to put it. I like the way it has been done tho, I enjoy searching for myself a lot

[jolly trench]

the environmental storytelling is great, but the actual "story mode" is absolute dogshit ass crap balls terrible

literally the only story is in port hokan when you open the box

[glass dock]

There's a story? I thought we just put it together ourselves, I haven't done commander mode yet

[timber portal]

Its hard for me to pay attention to the story when im trying my damn best to keep the ai shitlings from walking through doorways backwards

[jolly trench]

its also in quick play, i prefer quick play. it also actually has more story since your squad will comment on stuff in quick play.

[glass dock]

Play with a small group of friends consider? That's what I have been up to lately and been a lot of fun

[median egret]

investigate map after dealing with mission

[glass dock]

That's where I have been playing is in quick play. That might be how I started picking up on the story but apparently it runs deep AF.

[timber portal]

The "story" is the same in quickplay and commander mode iirc

[viscid trellis]

new dlc is a banger

[glass dock]

I'm not past the mission with the birthday party fyi pls no spoilers past!!! 😂
A lot of ppl were bothered by the mission twisted nerve because of the overdose scene

[timber portal]

m14 my beloved

[jolly trench]

theres more in quick play, in commander your squad wont comment on stuff they see, since their voice is random unlike quick play with the continous "canon" squad

[viscid trellis]

i always do quick play when i want to be a completionist, but doing ironman mode rn

[median egret]

they will comment it in commander too,it depends on rng since all characters have voicelines for environment

[glass dock]

I think it's really cool that some missions are based off irl events, I feel like that can be taken and run with well

[timber portal]

Ive had the AI squad comment on various environments in commander mode as well

[jolly trench]

the overdose scene used to be a LOT worse btw

[viscid trellis]

i love m14, but i’m a slut for the G3

[timber portal]

Honestly, the overdose isnt even in top 3 shocking moments throughout the game imo

[jolly trench]

oh huh. didnt know that.

[glass dock]

I got Ron when it first came out, I remember, I think it was like 24 bucks when I got it

[viscid trellis]

ahem dead chi- ahem

[median egret]

well it was before release i think

[viscid trellis]

the nightclub and the hospital and the school shooting is my top 3

[jolly trench]

the bed used to have used condoms next to it

[glass dock]

The party house with the drums in the basement was alarming. But knowing the story I don't shoot any of the civs because up to this point, seems like the daughter is innocent. Haven't beaten the mission yet tho

[somber prism]

Do y'all remember that beta cutscene of ready or not where judge says "it's ready time" and not'd all over the place

[viscid trellis]

righttttt i remember, it was so damn fucked but they obviously didn’t put it in for consumer purposes…

[median egret]

you mean volley?

[jolly trench]

yeah i loved that! wish they would bring it back smh....

[glass dock]

Volley? I think the name of the mission and family name is voll but not sure.

[timber portal]

Port Hoken, Elephant, and Neon Tomb are some of the worst environments ive ever seen from any game tbh

[viscid trellis]

valley of the dolls?

[jolly trench]

for me the elephant weirdly didnt phase me at all, the first level that really fucked me up was neon tomb. i can actually explain this too

[glass dock]

I think they didn't need to remove it once you understand how it fits the story but it is really messed up. It's cool a game can make me feel emotions in the way it does tho

[viscid trellis]

what’s elephant again i forgor

[timber portal]

||community college||

[median egret]

mb typo,valley of the dolls yes

[glass dock]

Ohh yes valley of dolls is the mission I'm stuck on rn, just keep getting killed here and there at points

[viscid trellis]

right that one, thank you for reminding me

[median egret]

oh,well good luck for you

[viscid trellis]

it’s a tough mission, especially going S rank, i’m scared of that mission in my ironman run

[jolly trench]

neon tomb was really disturbing because it had all those dead bodies, and no notification to report them, because in previous levels when there was a dead guy you would report it. but i guess it just hit me that there was no reason to report them because there were so many dead bodies, it makes little sense when i explain it but it was just really disturbing. also the ringing cell phones. the families that had no idea where their sons/daughters were.

[somber prism]

Peak ready or not moment

[glass dock]

@median egret it's an interesting missing n for sure. Insane how it's so connected. From what I understand the victims that are being sent to the valley home are one in the same from the tweeker house in twisted

[viscid trellis]

i wonder if the container in the twisted mission is linked to the one in port hokan

[timber portal]

90% of that missions difficulty is entirely because nonlethal weapons cant break glass, so the ai cant fight back against suspects on the ground floor on the walkways sometimes

[glass dock]

@viscid trellis omg...

[median egret]

yes,this connection goes well through some missions,they can even have same lines

[viscid trellis]

yeah i hate that it can’t break glass, you really have to plan out your shit for it

[timber portal]

I ended up just bringing 2 mags of pistol ammo and breaking the glass myself when i got to that walkway tbh

[median egret]

||the name spider tells for itself because of marking||

[edgy mountain]

Does anyone else think we should have access to extended mags

[viscid trellis]

my bad i never read the container cuz i kinda forgor to…

[glass dock]

I must have let that one go over my head. I Wana redo those missions now

[median egret]

i just use gunfighter or slots upgrade mods and know how long guns can shoot

[viscid trellis]

ah that would probably work, i still have yet to do that mission to get the billy butcher fit

[glass dock]

Fn p90, shoot all day

[timber portal]

not all of the missions are connected though, but a lot of them are connected to Port Hoken in some way, shape, or form

[median egret]

some missions were cut though,fast food shouldve been connected with 213 park if im right

[timber portal]

Thank you, Come Again is connected to Twisted Nerve directly, yes

[glass dock]

What is the container from twisted nerve, I can't remember it

[timber portal]

but Twisted Nerve is only tangentially connected to Port Hoken through the Los Locos in Buy Cheap, Buy Twice

[graceful vigil]

I like new TOC sounds like HUNK from Resident evil

[glass dock]

It's probably a shorter list to mark what isn't connected
Twisted nerve is where they harvest the underage victims from tho isn't it.

[median egret]

no no i mean other one,it was a fast food restaurant with big hangars and it had connection with meth,its a deleted one old mission sadly

[timber portal]

The underage people are implied to come from Mexico in Rust Belt, iirc

[viscid trellis]

yeah, my videos i’m making on the lore of RoN links to that specific mission and container, and of course to FISA
also @glass dock you can find the container at the very back of the second house

[glass dock]

It may be implied but I found it too coincidental with the situation and the setting

[graceful vigil]

Also i've been getting a lot of throat shots since update. Anyone else getting em more often?

[crisp cradle]

So why does the quality of glass keep getting worse. even the glass in the strip cub doesnt break where you shoot it, the whole thing just shatters with a shitty particle effect

[timber portal]

Neon Tomb, Relapse, and Carriers of the Vine are some of the most loosely connected missions to the main underlying story

[modest fern]

Performance

[glass dock]

I live in New Mexico and I think that adding a dlc containing some of the events that have transpired here would be epic

[viscid trellis]

i love the in-depth lore of RoN

[median egret]

i get my limbs destroyed all time lol

[graceful vigil]

I mean shooting suspects

[median egret]

oh,well i wasn't looking at them usually

[graceful vigil]

I think they made the throat hitbox slightly bigger

[round goblet]

What happened to PvP. Bought this game in early access years ago and it said they would have it eventually 😦

[crisp cradle]

is there no way to make it a settings related thing? bc seeing small things like that that used to be better but are suddenly removed later on in the lifespan is pretty offputting

[glass dock]

Ready or not got me back into it when I found out about the lore. Make some vids and I'll leave a like

[median egret]

they are connected to MLO
not closely

[graceful vigil]

Is this why i only get 45 fps on valley of dolls?

[viscid trellis]

i made two so far, posting a third one as a “leaked footage” type thing with random glitches linking to FISA

[modest fern]

Would get way less if they kept the old glass particles

[modest fern]

No idea on that note however

[glass dock]

I'll go take a look. The more I learn the cooler
Did anyone catch the ruby ridge reference loosely with the ricing facility

[round goblet]

What happened to PvP. Bought this game in early access years ago and it said they would get it and we are now in 1.0 with nothing in sight 💔

[median egret]

pvp in ron will be so complicated

[timber portal]

Honestly, as soon as i find a mod that outright removes glass, i might just download that permanently. Its one of the few things that I cant stand in the gameplay

[glass dock]

There's better games for pvp. Pvp wouldn't be fair. Would have to be like 10 tweekers no body armor in a house they can set up or something for like 2 mins before the 5 police raided. Meh I can't see the pvp in that

[plucky dirge]

skif? from stalker 2?

[viscid trellis]

it would be basically rainbow six siege but realism if pvp was added

[median egret]

that was the idea of r6s until it became a competitive fps

[simple turret]

tweekers would win most of the time. the current maps would be so heavily defender sided lol

[median egret]

eft raid

[round goblet]

@median egret @glass dock sure but I was hoping for a rainbow six type gameplay closer to when seige first releast. Isn't it kind of a rip off that one of the main modes that was advertised back then and is the reason why I bought early access no longer happening?

[simple turret]

devs showed wall breaching being a new mechanic in one of the new dlc missions so siege but without the cringe operators is probably what we will get for pvp lol

[plucky dirge]

Иди ко мне скіф

[median egret]

well i think its different for everyone,pvp had lots of negative reviews isnt it

[median egret]

although i understand you,my name is taken from tarkov xd

[round goblet]

@median egret yea but those were super early builds

I just feel a bit ripped off

[median egret]

sure thing,but i think main thing that everyone liked was the idea of swat 4 type gameplay,as lots of people called ron,swat 5 or swat 4 child
i remember some games tried the pvp idea too in that realistic setting,but it wasn't a huge success probably, unsure

[simple turret]

it is still planned and coming

[velvet fog]

the supporter tan gpnvgs dont work for me rn, like the color doesnt change, anyone else ?

[median egret]

oh my goodness gracious

[plucky dirge]

it's john ready or not

[simple turret]

new ron copypasta just dropped?

[median egret]

the colour of the nvg itself or phosphorus mode

[jolly trench]

i might connect thank you come again to the dlc maps if you guys ask nicely

[velvet fog]

nvg itself

[median egret]

theres no colouring of the nvgs at this time, through mods only

[velvet fog]

there is

[jolly trench]

[velvet fog]

through supporter edition, id post a screenshot, but this channel doesnt allow pictures, i can select the color, but it doesnt do anything @median egret

[median egret]

post in #🎨ron-screenshots-and-art

[glass dock]

I didn't read how they were all connected because it seemed like a joke

[modest fern]

You can change your NVG settings between white and green phosph and quad nods also have I think a black and tan variant

[glass dock]

I got to the part about streamer snacks. I have my own theory but idk if anyone wants to hear it

[median egret]

oh jeez my bad

[jolly trench]

it is a joke. read it anyways.

[glass dock]

Ok lol

[jolly trench]

i want to, how can it be anymore ridiculous than my reasoning

[median egret]

at this point i dont know, might be a glitch

[velvet fog]

yeah what im thinking aswell, no worries

[glass dock]

We start at the gas station

[median egret]

well if it was working before, surely needs a patch

[green tusk]

No it hasn’t

[glass dock]

Possible friends of the tweekers in twisted nerve, hit a gas station one of them works at and has the schedule for the money drops. Things get out of hand when the manager is killed, the veteran hears the commotion from the back and attempts counter measures, being shot in the process along with the dog

[velvet fog]

yeah, was hoping they would add facemask option aswell, but its still character dependant

[jolly trench]

it has

[median egret]

sure, only way to use it in commander is to have echo banks mod for judge and balaclavas on ai,its glitchy sometimes tho

[velvet fog]

nvm it actually works, but i needed to select a few more things

[median egret]

damn alright xd

[jolly trench]

guys i previously had carriers of the vine empty as i couldnt think of a way to connect it but i got one: one of the gangsters is a feminist

[simple turret]

[glass dock]

Things go quiet on the connections for a moment here when we go to the streamers place. Finding out we have been called in on a "swatting" situation,something common in the early 2000s. We find a false claim of him killing the mother and such, arriving to find illicit material on his hd

[jolly trench]

dont listen to him hes not cool enough

[median egret]

they have some sort of mlo connections or some shit, definitely brainwashed ones but theres lore explanations so it might tell more

[jolly trench]

vro the gas station gangsters do NOT have MLO connections 😭 they are just looking for money for drugs

[modest fern]

How do you know that

Money laundering is money laundering

almost like a.. money laundering organization

[glass dock]

The gas station gangsters are friends w the tweekers from twisted nerve. Has to be. The worker says " am I going to jail" and things reminiscent of what have I done and such.

[median egret]

my brain is rotten more i see, alright enough for me im seeing wrong things in your texts😭🙏

[median egret]

yay its confirmed

[jolly trench]

doesnt mlo stand for something else

[glass dock]

The tweekers are buying from the cooks at the twisted nerve site. They owe money. That's why in twisted it says who owes money and such. They need to pay them back.

[jolly trench]

it says in the mission brief goofball, didnt even play the game hes moderating for

[median egret]

its a joke

[glass dock]

Hence the desperation. These tweekers will kill u and bury u in the basement

[jolly trench]

see you guys are thinking of real valid connections between gas station and the other missions but the whole point of the copypasta is that its dumb and makes zero sense

[median egret]

mega large otter

[jolly trench]

you just replied to a joke too

[median egret]

you were caught in my joke trap however

[jolly trench]

actually its Meady Lor Ot