👮ron-discussion

[copper dome]

Tell em to check the door silly

They can’t avoid it if they don’t know about it

[solemn patio]

I didnt tell them to go into a door tho

I told them fall in as my latest command

[muted current]

Is there a way to turn down the bloom lighting on replay mode? I swear Neon Tomb replays feels like playing OG Oblivion on xbox 360, everything just glows so much you can't see anything

[desert island]

wats the highest suspect to map size ratio

[solemn patio]

It honestly feels like theres a small army on hand and left behind levels, maybe its just because of the lmgs

[desert island]

so like brisa cove?

the other maps are huge tho

seems like sinuous trail has 11 enemies on small map

[solemn patio]

Honestly I think narcos might be a contender

[desert island]

rip i dont got narcos

[vivid widget]

finished the home invasion dlc, now to move onto dark waters
how is it?

[dusty ravine]

All of the missions are pretty unique, I liked all of them

Granted it’s the only DLC I have so take it with a grain of salt

[solemn patio]

I love going turtle mode with my shield

[safe shale]

yo

are there any units that aren’t 18+ and run camo?

[chilly thorn]

dark waters is fun but slightly worse then home invasion

Dark waters suffers from having one really shit map

[vivid widget]

that being 3 letter triad i imagine

[chilly thorn]

no mirage at sea

[vivid widget]

oh?

[chilly thorn]

terribly designed

triad is the best map of the dlc

maybe slightly behind rig they are both elite

[coral tapir]

I heard 3LT is hard but I fail to see how.

[chilly thorn]

Its just harder then most maps in the game

narcos is way harder honestly

this game isn't really like hard hard tho more just like you have to actually try hard

its harder the better you play

[ocean steeple]

i’m actually gonna lose it

It took me 3 hours but I got to the final room on new america on hard non lethal

and one of them john wicked across the room and killed one of my NPC squadmates

[oak crest]

[obsidian hornet]

Is there no way to make my zoomed-in sensitivity the same as my overall sensitivity?

[late ledge]

yo um in the gas station mission my ai teammates immediately shoot the guy through the glass door and i can't get an S, any idea how i can stop that?

[oak crest]

give them non lethal weapons, like the VPL or the flash launcher

[smoky moss]

“christ it’s really kicking off out there”

[oak crest]

[quasi coral]

Welp, tomorrows the day that I run and gun the DLC

A New America cannot be that bad

[glass heart]

last words before getting your ass shot off by some green guy with a fal

[late ledge]

ahh i see thank you!

[oak crest]

dont forget to also remove their secondary ammo, or give em the nonlethal pistol

[late ledge]

i didn't know i could change their load out

i see now

[oak crest]

well now u know

[late ledge]

i've just been spamming quick play gas station mission to understand the mechanics

planning on playing commander mode after i do

[sturdy bison]

It sounds painful

[oak crest]

oh no.. he doesnt know...

[sturdy bison]

So it is that painful and bad?

[oak crest]

it's

[late ledge]

nah honestly u can john wick through that thing

go show em true justice ✊

[oak crest]

you did not just say that

[sturdy bison]

Only a moron or complete idiot would say that

[late ledge]

(i don't even know what a new america is)

🤣

[oak crest]

honestly it's for the best

[late ledge]

i'm sure someone has done it before...

[oak crest]

ummm no

[late ledge]

sounds like it'd be a pain in the ass

[oak crest]

unless MAYBE on casual

[sturdy bison]

And I thought the letter triad was pain, I still refuse to do that mission

[late ledge]

does the commander mode have difficulty levels as well?

[oak crest]

yes

[late ledge]

gotcha

im lowkey tryna go for that golden watch in ironman mode sometime

[sturdy bison]

You’re gonna torture yourself for that?

[late ledge]

for a golden watch? hell yeah

[smoky moss]

so hard to find an open lobby where the host doesn’t just immediately end the session after dying

[sturdy bison]

Your more crazy than them people who go for that tropical shirt

[late ledge]

that’s actually kinda funny

[robust dove]

In my experience its only the third floor that is a pain

The rest of the lvl i just make all the MLO guys deaf with a flash launcher and they surrender

🐲

[spark river]

hey is there a bug report already open on steam badges? I've basically s ranked every level on both commander and multiplayer and I havent gotten the badges either times, and I just completed the hanged man badge and steam says I didn't unlock it

and I know I completed it because I was with a friend when we did it and he recieved the badge

[wind gyro]

many

[spark river]

https://tenor.com/view/tung-tung-tung-sahur-dance-trio-gif-12081738338395734699

[chrome vault]

Has anyone else completed the "My Eyes, It Burns!" Achievement? I swear the death made this unnecessarily hard. Whenever I shoot the suspects on No Good Deed they die immediately. It's just unnecessarily cruel that the achievement requires that they are incapacitated. Can't figure out how to effectively incapacitate them, looking for some advice please

[pulsar knot]

hey guys can you recommend me good lore videos? because i really want to learn more

[spark river]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbGahoXnwLo

[wind gyro]

"tung-tung-tung-sahur-dance-trio-gif"

[pulsar knot]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1312993706701492256/1386913185172291666/da6de031-6b13-47e3-b051-ae01b5ad21dc.webp

omg no gifs???

[spark river]

dont worry about it

[inland kelp]

"DONT RUN OR REACH FOR ANYTHING" reaches for phone gets brutally shot in the head by .50 JHP

the intelligence of the npcs is impressive(ly low)

[oak crest]

honestly skill issue

[molten osprey]

FAFO, right?

[inland kelp]

thats FAFO?

whats*

[molten osprey]

Fuck around and find out

[glass heart]

fuck around and find out

[molten osprey]

I love this graph

And why is it a sticker on this server, it's beautiful

[sweet fractal]

aim for the non vital parts of the body

like the uhm

torso

[inland kelp]

and dont use JHP

[ember sparrow]

civs in RON piss me off

Why the hell are you not listening to 5 grown ass men who have their guns pointed at you

[pallid ore]

i usually mag dump them

it gets their mind in place

and the next alive one usually surrenders

[gusty quarry]

Stick those 33 rounds into the Glock 18 better chances of survival

Oh nevermind we can't do that

[stoic thistle]

Freezing tends to happen in stressful situations.

[quasi coral]

I see..

Okay, I'll take your word for it, I'll see what happens for myself

[hasty spear]

Can someone tell me how to stop this guy in A New America from middle easting the city?

[obsidian hornet]

Guys how are the shotguns in this game? Are they realistic or do they cringe after 5 feet like most videogame shotguns?

[hasty spear]

i started playing yesterday but they have a pretty realistic range to them

[obsidian hornet]

Ty

[silk lake]

[brave lance]

I know boiling point came out a month ago but what’s y’all prediction for the next update

[mystic palm]

Rescue the president

[gusty quarry]

Ron Hard S rank walkthrough is a grind

Questions your sanity

[ocean steeple]

fly into the north korean presidential building and save hostages from kim jong un

[hard jewel]

hey guys i doownled tac run adn sporint but now how do i use it

[lost inlet]

https://discord.com/channels/310075021882294272/922350557031702608

[hard jewel]

can u answer this question tho

[lost inlet]

no cause i don't use that mod.

pretty sure such mod would have instruction on how to use it on its page.

[storm belfry]

Pimp slap usually works

[livid aspen]

I just b ranked ANA because I missed 3 weapons

[gusty quarry]

Afghan National Army?

[safe shale]

a new america

[distant rose]

"Search the room"
"Searching"
Stands still

[livid aspen]

I even worked my way back to the spawn point to avoid this exact scenario 🥲

[rocky plover]

@frosty bison #🎨ron-screenshots-and-art message looks like the supporter edition shield i think unless it's a mod

[safe shale]

it looks like a mod ngl

[lost inlet]

it's supporter's version of the shield.

[lost inlet]

@safe shale

[safe shale]

ah

[frosty bison]

I play in ps5 so no mod

@rocky plover thanks

[rocky plover]

then supporter as I said, but got confused cos it should have the 3 letter emblem on it i think

[gusty quarry]

Is it possible to still put PMAGs in the MK18 I forgot

Will have to check but pretty sure they removed that option

[ember sparrow]

Hide and Seek is the last mission I have to get S for in the main campaign

[lost inlet]

no, it got removed long ago.

[ember sparrow]

today has been a grind and a half

[jolly verge]

Yes

[lost inlet]

wut.

[jolly verge]

But you need a mod for that, so you can save preset

[queen jay]

ive accidentally killed my door kicker with a .300 blackout

[lost inlet]

bruh.

[jolly verge]

[queen jay]

im gonna wait untill the paramedic revives him

[jolly verge]

He will be incapacitated after the mission, that all what paramedic do

Instead of 50% chance to be KIA

[lost inlet]

when he recovered, he will quits the force anyway cause you just dome him in the back of his head.

[gusty quarry]

Ah so you need a mod for it ok alright

Still asinine they removed it though

[queen jay]

right between his eyes actually i was having a eye staring contest

[wind gyro]

aspidzeus

[jolly verge]

Where is gort 1?

[ocean steeple]

I give up i’m not trying to non lethal ts anymore

i’m tired of fighting 70 john wicks with a nerf gun 😭

[robust dove]

The pump action one feels like an AR that rips arms off so yeah that one at least feels amazing

[robust dove]

Have you tried flash grenade launcher

[ocean steeple]

all the shotguns except the beanbag are

[ocean steeple]

i don’t have the deluxe game so i dont have it

i’m stuck trying to do ts with a beanbag shotgun and the dumbass AI teammates who are suicidal 24/7 and stand in the direct line of fire

[robust dove]

Thought it was free i got it be4 i copped the dlcs

[lost inlet]

overpowered.

[ocean steeple]

nope. You got it for free during preorder but now on console you only get it if you pay for the deluxe

[robust dove]

Yeah when going S ranks is better to go alone at least in my experience

[ocean steeple]

the beanbag is kinda useless on ANA though

The range is shit so you’re kinda fucked in those wide open rooms

[rocky plover]

they gonna get it for free in future update

[ocean steeple]

especially the way up to the final floor

[robust dove]

Ngl i just spam grenade launcher in wide open levels

It is way too fun and effective

Yesterday got 4 guys rushing me in the courtroom and they gave up after 1 shot of that thing

[warm talon]

I can't make it up the final floor. 😭

[ocean steeple]

You’re not doing it without the rotary flash launcher

Its quite literally not possible with the beanbag

I had to use like two 9 bangs and more flashes to even clear the final stairway out when i managed to get up there

[robust dove]

I wondee if someone ever used the pepper spray

Thats like the worst item in the game

[warm talon]

I tried using that, but it wasn't affecting any suspects for me so I used my regular rifle, still can't get up to the final room.

[ocean steeple]

if you have flashbangs just throw all of them

make the room brighter than the sun

if you have them make sure at least one of your officers has pacifier as well

[robust dove]

THIS

Taser is still effective tho

[warm talon]

Not even the flashbangs or tear gas affects the suspects so I end up having to end them. I swear it's bugged for me

[ocean steeple]

dont use gas on ana

its useless

[rocky plover]

unless you use it as a smoke grenade (yes it works to stay hidden) lol

[robust dove]

Gas is useless there

I mean they gas YOU

[ocean steeple]

Swap gas grenades out for wedges

[robust dove]

And the civilians

[ocean steeple]

lots of wedges

[warm talon]

Honestly, when I get on, I'm probably going to run shield all the way when I get to 3rd floor

[ocean steeple]

Thats useless too

they’ll just flank you

or overwhelm

[rocky plover]

it's good to bait them, but gotta be careful

[ocean steeple]

The best way to do it as annoying as it is is to go slow and mirror literally every room and corner

and wedge the doors to the long hallways

[robust dove]

Shield is not that big of an armor tho

They still flank you

Are you guys watching over the laser traps

[warm talon]

I hate them, is it best for white or green nods to look for them because I use shit but I don't really see them very well

[robust dove]

I always go blue and i see them

[ocean steeple]

yeah I disarm until i can cut the power on the first floor

[robust dove]

U can look it up on yt and compare

[ocean steeple]

also I would suggest leaving your AI squadmates behind until you’re about to get to the final floor

it makes it a lot harder when you’re trying to not alert them and then your guys come in behind you hollering at the top of their lungs

[robust dove]

Yeah when youre going for an S is better to go alone

Like in general

[ocean steeple]

(my AI teammates yelling at a civvie to get on the ground)

the MLO operative behind the door with a flashbang:

[lost inlet]

just fact checking, rifle's horizontal recoil is non-existent most of the time, yes?

[ocean steeple]

yeah most of the time

there’s an annoying glitch i’ve noticed too where the AI squadmates will detect enemies and civvies through the walls and they’ll immediately start yelling when they detect them

[lost inlet]

intimidator or negotiator?

[ocean steeple]

negotiator

put both on the same team if you can

[wooden lintel]

@frosty bison that's supporter edition shield

[sonic saddle]

TP-1E or PHANTASM?

i do ask for which to use

[wind gyro]

#📩feedback-reports-channel message
son

[sonic saddle]

i'on' think he's following the like format but idk

[wind gyro]

hes just complaining from the message i saw before they got deleted

like "do the mods even read the suggestions"

[sonic saddle]

i do NOT think thats a suggestions

[glossy bear]

i watched someone beat new america with taser. S rank solo

[ocean steeple]

average casual experience

[waxen tartan]

Goodluck anyone trying to s rank valley of the dolls with ai it's a fucking nightmare 💀😂

[sonic saddle]

its doeable

doable

forgot how to spell it

[waxen tartan]

It probably is but not for me with this ai

[sonic saddle]

do it solo.

[waxen tartan]

Lmaooooo

[sonic saddle]

fuck the AI they are DEADWEIGHT

[waxen tartan]

Just i can get shot in the back while arresting someone 😂

[bitter sail]

yo i got the hermit but not the delovpers wacth on stanrarnd anyone know why

[jolly verge]

One of your officers resigned

[bitter sail]

it says he lft for therpay if i play some missions will it fix or

[waxen tartan]

The living room on the 1st floor is death circle

[jolly verge]

Like I said, one of your officers resigned, officers being in therapy do not affect the watch unlock

[bitter sail]

so i gotta redo it

[jolly verge]

Yeap

You can do it on casual since you got both achievements

[bitter sail]

that took two months

[waxen tartan]

Im curious why random players play this game like gta though

Every game i played with randoms always rushed like its gta and die 15 seconds later lol

[tacit gull]

thats just how it plays

[balmy patio]

taser is a pretty good tool, people understimate it

its pretty cracked on door breaches due to its size and instant stun effect

its stun being stronger than the beanbag

rarely do suspects resist it too

then you can just zap them a second time

[jolly verge]

Yeah, taser was way better before they nerfed it

[tacit gull]

https://tenor.com/view/mundo-feliz-onetreehsll-world-if-gif-14071235670792471304

life if taser got nerfed and we didnt get m32a1

[jolly verge]

And what if we did not get buffed gas again?

[tacit gull]

Honestly i think gas should still be buffed further especially since the entire new dlc magically has immunity to it

I cannot really find any situation where the gas is as versatile and effective as either other grenade type

[bitter sail]

well ty for the help

[hearty portal]

i love the gas it’s overpowered

[tacit gull]

Its genuienly just slower and requires you to use gas masks

[jolly verge]

Well they made it so suspects have to wait at least 1 sec before flee, and you still can use it as a cover

To kill all suspects while being inside

[tacit gull]

Doesnt it just lower suspect accuracy?

[rocky plover]

it works as a smoke grenade as well lol

[jolly verge]

No

[tacit gull]

oh damn

[jolly verge]

Visual blockers are still there

[rocky plover]

i used it on my hard S on ANA, even though they immune to it, it helped near metal detector so i cant be seen on top floor xD

[tacit gull]

fair enough, maybe it can be useful in hide and seek crossing the map

even though uh

tear gas should be seethrough

in this swat simulation

[distant rose]

how come the SDR 1-4x scope seems to be broken on the M4A1? (default it is very zoomed out and it's adjustable zoom doesn't work)

[desert vapor]

Just a short rant here but I'm genuinely so tired of suspects having 360 degree vision and being specifically programmed to target your limbs instead of aiming center mass. Why the fuck do I have body armor if all that gets targeted are my fucking arms and legs ffs?

[tacit gull]

the limb damage modifiers are really bad

[rocky plover]

sometimes i ask that question to myself as well tbh, i get hit to limbs much more than armor XD

[jolly verge]

Try to run without armor

[feral yacht]

i'm gonna explode with this ai

[jolly verge]

Being hit in the limbs is just a free heal

[feral yacht]

every single room they breach, they thrown a flashbang in their feet

and I get blinded instead

[tacit gull]

though i think steel plates should be about on par damage wise right?

[feral yacht]

how do you guys avoid this shit?

[desert vapor]

This is genuinely so infuriating. I love this game and have more then 200 hours but shit needs to change. A suspect gets a shot off standing right infront of me, and somehow with this single fucking shot he hits my leg, causing it to bleed, while wearing heavy armor.

[tacit gull]

you dont let them breach rooms

[rocky plover]

play solo or MP with good people

[tacit gull]

or do anything really

[desert vapor]

Easy. You don't use swat ai. Ever

[tacit gull]

they're just there to trail behind you and clean up your mess

those are the only things they are capable of

[rocky plover]

^ and for wedges and c2 and thats it

[desert vapor]

Genius. I never thought of that

[feral yacht]

i dont have mp neither good people 🥀

[rocky plover]

oof

[balmy patio]

eh its better for them to hit your limbs, as long as you arent wearing full heavy steel and just light front only you can metagame the bleeds and survive quite alot

atleast they aint hitting you with the 360 degree 60 frame double headshot tap

[robust dove]

Is there a way to do the taco bell mission without rushing bcs damm they hear a mosquito and they start killing civilians

[desert vapor]

99% of my playtime is solo. For genuine advice, if a door is opened and your swat ai is stacked up behind said door, tell them to switch sides. Or else they will throw the flash at the door and it'll just bounce off

Doors are your ai's worst enemy

[rocky plover]

60s timer (30s on hard) before they kill civs

[tacit gull]

me sweating knowing if i post a certain video of this eman is going to pulverize me

[ocean steeple]

i’ve done it

[slim fern]

place c2 on the door as they stack up, and detonate as they breach it

[balmy patio]

use supressors on that mission, or tbh even if you didnt play to S rank it use the flash nade launcher since that map is pretty CQC you can get away with just spamming it easily

[robust dove]

K ill guest ill just go and grenade launch everyone ty

[desert vapor]

How is it in any situation ever better for them to hit your limbs?????

[jolly verge]

No really, try it and see how many times you will die in 2-3 hits, armor saves you more than you thinking. Getting hit in the limbs is good since this is the only way to heal.

[feral yacht]

thanks, this happened to me many times but didn't notice until now

[robust dove]

Since i discovered the flash launcher the whole hand and MLO are deaf atp

[desert vapor]

Healing? Since when can you heal?

[rocky plover]

when you bleed

[feral yacht]

i guess i will put a ton of flashes and bang the room for them

[jolly verge]

Since always

[desert vapor]

I just know you can stop the bleeding

[jolly verge]

You press F - you heal

[robust dove]

Press f to stop bleeding yk

[jolly verge]

It does not just stop the bleeding

[rocky plover]

you heal back to 50%

[desert vapor]

Also, for me, telling them to go into wedge formation has been the best, since single file just means they won't shoot suspects since you're in their way

[desert vapor]

Ah, I did not know that

[tacit gull]

its explained

no its not i just lied

[jolly verge]

[tacit gull]

and you cant even tell it happens because the health ui is broken

unless you literally dig into the files you will never know

[ocean steeple]

a lot of stuff is broke atm 💀

[desert vapor]

Well, i did not. Thank you for telling me

[desert vapor]

Me when my ai simply proceeds to walk to the edge of the map instead of clearing the room

[robust dove]

Yeah that happens too

[tacit gull]

ready or not treating the most non sensical game logic as common sense like of course it would make sense that patching up an artery would bring 20 years back to your life

[ocean steeple]

me when i tell them to flash a room and they stand there staring at the door

[desert vapor]

A lot more since boiling point

[desert vapor]

Rustbelt moment

[ocean steeple]

there’s also the very common occurrence where your gun just

[robust dove]

Or when i say stay here and provide cover and they proceed to hit a gas trap and get some civilian suffocated

[desert vapor]

Doesn't fire

[ocean steeple]

refuses to fire

[desert vapor]

YES. OH MY GOD I THOUGHT I WAS GOING INSANE. THANK YOU

[ocean steeple]

or when you’re point blank aiming center mass and your shot just phases through them into the aether

[waxen tartan]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-cartoon-chicken-funny-dance-gif-14242277

Do it "solo" he said

[desert vapor]

Also on PS5 leaning is broken because when you lean and fire for some reason with every shot your camera snaps back to the middle which makes it impossible to hit your shots

[balmy patio]

read the spreadsheet regarding metamancing the armor system/health system and you will see why them hitting your limbs is best outcome (because it procs bleed which lets you heal back to half everytime, and limb shots cap out at 24 damage on hard mode so regardless of caliber they will only do that little damage compared to bare torso shots doing the hard capped 80)

[desert vapor]

I will. Thank you

[balmy patio]

what you want is for every 2 shots on the steel armor to receive one shot to the limb to proc said bleed

if this happens then you are in theory literally immortal

(obviously extremely rng dependant but yeah)

[desert vapor]

I just get pissed of because recoil gets so mich higher with broken arms

[balmy patio]

yeah its better to get shot on the legs, you dont wanna kick doors anyways its not recommended

[jolly verge]

With what gun?

ARWC ?

[desert vapor]

Man on console aiming can be hard. Yeah it's not that bad, but auto firing becomes much harder. And yes yes, I also know single shot is better but full auto is more fun

[jolly verge]

Anyway, stopping the bleed clears arm injury debuff

[sonic saddle]

ip grabber

[desert vapor]

I guess i know very little for someone with 200 hours in the game

[waxen tartan]

U play on pc or console ?

[rocky plover]

you learn something new everyday tbh xD

[desert vapor]

Also fix stat tracking. Please.

[desert vapor]

Who needs in game info anyway

[rocky plover]

depends tbh

[jolly verge]

We have in-game info
In-game info:

[rocky plover]

yea LOL so accurate

[ocean steeple]

today i learned disabling the power actually doesnt turn off the IR lasers

[desert vapor]

Yeah, it's an independent trap, not connected to the building

[tacit gull]

jerry miculek stats

[desert vapor]

It disables cams from which the MLO stalks you

[rocky plover]

and fire alarm and unlocks metal doors

[ocean steeple]

the merc guys will also start shooting at you immediately when you turn your back to arrest someone

[tacit gull]

i dont think disabling the cams actually does anything other than not letting you see through them

turning off the power is actually mostly a hard nerf on yourself despite the fact it changes like nothing

[desert vapor]

I've been told multiple times that they can see you through the cams, which i am inclined to belive since your teammates also say that they are probably watching you

[tacit gull]

cause you're not gonna us those cams anyway

[rocky plover]

i dont like switching off the power tbh

[tacit gull]

you'd be surprised at how much dumb shit is hinted at but doesn't actually do anything

[rocky plover]

cos i like keeping metal doors locked, and the cams can actually be useful sometimes

[tacit gull]

I have not seen a difference in ai behaviour with cams on

vs off

[rocky plover]

ye in that regard, me neither

[tacit gull]

they still just use the tripwires to trigger the recycled swat code

[rocky plover]

yea

[sonic saddle]

PC

[tacit gull]

it also says it disables the fire alarms

which it does not

[jolly verge]

I would say if there is a difference, but I did not play for over a year

[tacit gull]

and it wouldnt make sense for it to do that

[sonic saddle]

oh shit you play on console js get good bozo @waxen tartan

[tacit gull]

because fire alarms have batteries

[rocky plover]

plus it's only for 2-3 mins anyways then cams are back up

[tacit gull]

it makes so little of a difference that i couldn't tell you when the power goes back up

[sturdy bison]

Cams?

[rocky plover]

ye, personally i dont like switching it off

[sonic saddle]

true..

[rocky plover]

ye you can rewire them in the beginning to access 7 randomised cameras

[tacit gull]

it genuienly feels like its the devs going "hey guys remember how we had breaker boxes to turn the lighting off and do something actually useful to influence the ai, well here it is half assed as always lol"

[rocky plover]

🤣

[green arrow]

Tbh what are even the keycards for in ana, never really cared abt it till today

[tacit gull]

remember this feature we had with the breaker boxes left over in a bunch of levels

remember when the ai used to take cover

[rocky plover]

for unlocking the metal doors (kc used on a pc terminal), which shutting off the power also does the same thing

[tacit gull]

remember when the ai had protective equipment? now every ai has resistance to gas for no reason

but not actual gas just tear gas (somehow)

[rocky plover]

ye lol

[sturdy bison]

Which mission talking about?

[rocky plover]

a new america

[tacit gull]

remember the mlo from pvp guys?? now they're here!!!

[waxen grove]

When haven’t they half assed something?

[tacit gull]

remember the g3? remember the 2011?

[sturdy bison]

Hmmm…. The traid mission is starting to look like paradise

[waxen grove]

I’m just glad to see we are back in the 6 month radio silence phase. Hope your happy with the state of the game because there’s no updates till the next dlc

[ocean steeple]

I literally just got shot through the floor on ANA…

[tacit gull]

have there even been like any patches

[sturdy bison]

That ain’t a thing

[waxen grove]

The devs are so predictable and it’s not even in a good way

[tacit gull]

ok to be fair this is probably the most stable release of an update yet

like hats off there

[ocean steeple]

It just happened to me 💀

[waxen grove]

Exactly 1.

[sonic saddle]

who

[tacit gull]

but it didn't fix like a fraction of existing issues

[sonic saddle]

shit mb caps

[sturdy bison]

Ya right

The floors ain’t something u can shoot through

[ocean steeple]

I was going up the stairwell to the second floor and through that blocked stairwell to the third floor one of the MLO managed to glitch into it and i got shot from above

[rocky plover]

yea got 100% again, and now it feels stale again :/

[ocean steeple]

as i was going up the stairs

[green arrow]

What are yall thoughts abt pvp?

[sonic saddle]

isnt that what happens when you play alot

[rocky plover]

depends, if replayability would be more fun, then maybe it wouldn't be boring again

[waxen grove]

It fixed a whole lot of things that has been sitting in the list of known bugs since the beta but nothing ground breaking.

Swat AI is still stupid, Suspect ai is still John Wick. Zero replayablity.

[tacit gull]

it took 5 years to bring back loadout changing in the ready screen

(which was never an issue when the game just used menus instead of the shitass lobby)

[rocky plover]

not a priority tbh, i guess it could be fun but at the same time it feels like meh xD

[waxen grove]

What we need is levels that feel different. It’s all about the ai.

It’s the same ai in every level and it’s the same everytime you load the game which was never the case in swat 4. It’s stale by design

[tacit gull]

pvp should be fun

doesnt mean it will be

[waxen grove]

PvP after they fix the AI. Not before

[sonic saddle]

never will when you get stingered and flashbang 2 times in a row then rushed

[tacit gull]

you can actually make the stale by design argument for a lot of things in the game

[waxen grove]

Avoid

[rocky plover]

yea 1 of the reasons i miss the old mission types, when having the same mission but 5 different modes for it

[sonic saddle]

who

[tacit gull]

heavy armor and anti flash be like

[sonic saddle]

i GENUINELY think heavy armor does nothing against stingers or smth, i might just not know nor look close to the screen

[sturdy bison]

Least the game runs fine unlike most unreal games

[green arrow]

Still you would prob die due to how well they work (i mean abt stingers)

[waxen grove]

Exactly. So much of the game is static when it doesn’t need to be

[tacit gull]

i think active shooter is probably the best example

[sonic saddle]

elaborate fr

[tired steppe]

If an officer resigns while I am doing Ironman Mode does that ruin the run or is that fine?

[tacit gull]

active shooter is a terrible fucking mode that got butchered because of how it used to work in early access

instead of just having suspects around the map ruining your rank randomly they added a timer that feels so out of place its unreal

[sonic saddle]

if you go for the broken watch? probably

[waxen grove]

Even if we had the old mission types i argue the game would still feel stale

[rocky plover]

doesnt ruin the run but it does ruin getting the watch

[sonic saddle]

wdym timer

[tacit gull]

and instead of implementing new mechanics and systems to facilitate this new way of playing the game they basically just hacked it together

[green arrow]

Round timer i suppose im stpd

[tacit gull]

active shooter suspects are on a timer before they can shoot anyone

[waxen grove]

As it stands i havent played all of the levels but every single level i have played runs the exact same way (except for Gerald)

[rocky plover]

yea but would have more variety i guess, and why scrap the old missions/maps too.....

[green arrow]

My brain aint braining today

[sonic saddle]

i mean its js how it works ofc they could find someone RIGHT when the S.W.A.T. or some patrol officers enter the building

[tacit gull]

it works terrible and it defeats the entire point of the scenario

[sonic saddle]

no

are you familiar with an ACTIVE shooter?

[tacit gull]

where the entire point of an active shooter situation is that you CANT prevent deaths, you can only stop the threat

[sonic saddle]

someone ACTIVELY shooting shit

[waxen grove]

I do miss some of the older missions. Like the old hotel was so good. So many sight lines to just randomly die but it had a few ways of taking the level

[sonic saddle]

if they werent active they'd be passive and thats NOT what it is in elephant or any other ready or not level

[tacit gull]

someone actively shooting shit after 3 minutes when the police arrive so they have a fair chance

[waxen grove]

I think there should be a grace period BUT it should be random

[sonic saddle]

they've been active since the first shot

[rocky plover]

ye i loved old hotel and old port ngl

[tacit gull]

brother i'm literally making the point that they AREN'T ACTIVE untill a timer rolls down

[sonic saddle]

i think that timer is when they enter and kill cuh..

[tacit gull]

they're already on site and they HAVE been killing for a while before you got there

It's reflected by everything but the gameplay

which is at a complete disconnect

[waxen grove]

Old port shits all over new port. Fucking why do things like the postal level and port exist. Like genuinely why. One is too dam open with too many cheaty sight lines that the ai takes advantage of and new port is a dark mess of open areas just waiting for you to get picked off randomly but some fucker you can’t even see

[tacit gull]

I dont think so, it defeats the entire point of the scenario

someone recommended that it should genuienly just be a time trial to stop the threat, civvies getting killed regardless of what you do

[rocky plover]

ye that why i prefer old port over new one

[tacit gull]

it would be a much more logical and impactful way to convey the scenario

[sonic saddle]

thats the students and teachers (someone else probably) hiding and wandering about (like the stupid civvies they are)

[sonic saddle]

i do kinda agree with that

[rocky plover]

layout wise is also nicer and feels like it's bigger, the port we have right now is just 2 giant "rooms"

[tacit gull]

Meanwhile as it currently is it plays like a goofy game of hide and seek (which comically enough isn't the intent of the game despite being called ready or not)

[rocky plover]

the exterior and the warehouse

[tacit gull]

Its such a flat map too, like yeah it has the tower but there is NEVER anyone in it

[sonic saddle]

ready or not just stop the dying yo

[tacit gull]

it's not even worth checking out

[waxen grove]

I don’t really want to load into a mission and immediately have someone die. A random grace period gives us enough time to get your bearings (because at the end of the day it’s a game) and also have each play through of that level feel unique.

At the end of the day what’s to say the suspect can’t find anyone to shoot. The static countdown timer is stupid and should be removed but having a min/max random grace timer would be better.

[tacit gull]

It's not up to you though is it? That's the point

[rocky plover]

ye i just always ignore it lol

[waxen grove]

Yeah and the ai just doesn’t work with giant rooms

[sonic saddle]

we dont control when someone dies

[rocky plover]

ye that as well...

[tacit gull]

in ea active shooter was basically just impossible because it just used the normal scoring system and you had to check the entire map when the suspect could dome someone and give you -500 score on the first frame

[waxen grove]

But you can 😉 you won’t always save everyone but having it so if the stars align you can is better then having it be impossible

[ocean steeple]

me when i walk into spawn and immediately get shot at by 4 suspects with fully automatic rifles

[next lynx]

Trying to S-rank greased palms on hard mode and I've just lost hope man

[tacit gull]

ea meth

[waxen grove]

Yep

[sonic saddle]

nuh uh, the only way we could is stopping the killer, yet we dont control when he sees someone

woah :p

[tacit gull]

trolled

[green arrow]

woaw

[tacit gull]

no ea meth literally started with you getting fucking swissed

[waxen grove]

Which version?

[tacit gull]

there would be a suspect with a tec-9 right in front of spawn that would just delete half the team before they load in

[tacit gull]

it might have been the first ea build from 2021

[sonic saddle]

he just felt too tired to make a scene for 5 hours

[waxen grove]

I can’t say I ever saw that. I have had them fire directly into the front door wiping the team but never have I seen them spawn outside the front door

[tacit gull]

they would spawn right in the garden

[waxen grove]

A execution like that I have only seen on dolls with the glass room of death

[tacit gull]

I think that spawn point is still there its just not used

[peak parrot]

KANYE WEST

[sonic saddle]

hes a black guy

who rapped i think ion know

[tacit gull]

he made graduation

[green arrow]

he bullied or smth

[ocean steeple]

there should be a mission where we raid kanyes house

[peak parrot]

He goes yo yo anything for a klondike

[waxen grove]

Right? Don’t you mean left?

The gate was on the left side of the house

It very well could be a very old version of the map I never played on

As it stands that level now has the t-intersection of doom and is way too large. I kind of liked it when you had the laundromat to deal with too (although I never understood why that business was being raided at the same time)

[harsh forge]

This game is literally a hot steaming pile of shit.......im out of here

[zinc lantern]

Didn’t know this is an airport

[tacit gull]

what

[chrome vault]

Huh?

[zinc lantern]

Dude didn’t need to announce his departure

[vivid widget]

lmao what was his deal

[rocky plover]

he literally said he loves the game 5 days ago

[sturdy bison]

Games to difficult for him, noob I say,

[rocky plover]

and now the opposite

[robust dove]

Hell nah game is fire

[sturdy bison]

To late there already gone,

[robust dove]

That doesnt change the fact that the game is good tho

[sturdy bison]

It is,

[sharp cairn]

Everyone talking about the rate of fire

I am curious to see what absolute gigachad carries 1500 shotgun shells on his kit

[sturdy bison]

Easier then GTFO, so if the person thinks ready or not is hard they are dead wrong

[robust dove]

I mean there are times that you peek and the suspects have inhuman reactions lmao

The game has its problems but its still good asf

[sturdy bison]

Know your targets,

Don’t kill a civilian

[robust dove]

I mean theres nothing in the game that the flash launcher cant handle

[gusty quarry]

And 2 negotiators on Hard

[robust dove]

Thats my to go

[sturdy bison]

Or 7 mil bullets

[gusty quarry]

But Im torn between having 2 negotiators + 1 armorer and 1 nutritionist vs 2 pacifiers + 2 negotiators

This is just my take but preventing enemies to fire their weapons is the best strategy in Hard

[sturdy bison]

Ain’t nothing walking away from the slr47 wounded or dead

[gusty quarry]

You have to avoid firefights and negotiators are the best for that

On the other hand, the armor and health boost is nice

Every stat is buffed to hell in Hard suspects

[sturdy bison]

There’s also way more targets suspects

[gusty quarry]

Yes but not by a huge amount, usually +5 suspects

[robust dove]

Are the weapons of the suspects randomized

[rocky plover]

both very good tbh for less lethal, for lethal i would use 1 armorer, 1 nutritionist and 2 veterans though

[gusty quarry]

Sometimes less or no less than that

[robust dove]

Yesterday i got 5 guys with uzis in twisted nerve and on another run i got like 6 guys with knifes rushing at me

[gusty quarry]

Already have a Hard Greased palms with all of the important traits unlocked, but Im waiting

Because there will be years worth of improving the game

[sturdy bison]

I hate that mission I never sound the last objective

[gusty quarry]

I hate the packaging rooms

Seriously, the amount of times I been capped there is insane

The initial rooms and perimeter, not a serious threat though

The first real difficulty spike is the level with the disgruntled veterans, then it jumps to 2nd spike Greased Palms

Then I can't remember, probably Sins of Valley or Elephant?

[quiet tapir]

OH MY GOD I FINALLY FINISHED GREASED PALMS S TIER

why in the world would anyone do ts on hardmode

[robust dove]

Cuz its fun

[robust dove]

Nice congrats

[gusty quarry]

Braggin rights too

Besides S standard run

[peak parrot]

when an officer resigns is that the same as losing them or no

[rocky plover]

Can still get achievements not the watch though

[peak parrot]

damn thank you for you inputs

[rocky plover]

👍

[rocky plover]

You can get the watch on casual at least though

[sudden gorge]

Can any door on relapse be locked?

[rocky plover]

Don't think I've ever encountered a locked door on relapse tbh

[finite forge]

How long has the "secret not e s between officers" been in the game? Its by the lockerroom in the HQ.

[fast mantle]

I love the front doors on 4u. Only the enemy bullets can penetrate it

Who'd've thunk 38 suspects on a map would be hard

[normal wigeon]

does anyone know how to fix the screen tear at the bottom

[grim island]

so apparently you can place c2 on the other side of a door and blow yourself up

like place it through the door somehow

[bronze sequoia]

Do you only get S rank if you get all suspects unharmed? I got all but 1 without firing a single shot and the last guy wasn't even dead, just incap

[sudden thorn]

It goes from greased palms to elephant

[fallen osprey]

yeah, you need them all up

[bronze sequoia]

Hm
Well I've done the first 2 with just a pistol and no armor anyway, I dont think it's possible to S rank them all with no armor lmao

If it is possible it's gotta be one helluva headache

[rugged ivy]

anyone know if theres a working version of gunfighter rn?

[wind gyro]

there is

[rugged ivy]

which one? i tried aio and basic from nexus and they both didnt work

[wind gyro]

all of them

[rugged ivy]

weird

nvm my game was launching safe mode by defualt 💀

[smoky brook]

Wasn't there a showcase yesterday or supposed to be or did the MLO psyop me?

[alpine compass]

is anyone else put off by the amount of genai used used for descriptions? for example, all the new captions in the evidence locker are totally ai generated and straight up wrong at times. am i crazy or does this just feel lazy and out of character for such a great game

[wind gyro]

https://www.instagram.com/p/DXfnv_qjHOt/
this?

[smoky brook]

Oh so that's what it is. Thanks man. Was hoping it was going to be something about the game but I guess this cool too for the people going to it.

[severe oak]

how to cancel arrest animation

[unkempt granite]

arrest someone, but before you put the ties on them, move

[signal tulip]

Why did VOID remove Old Farm?
It was one of the best maps.
I know neanderthal2 has already ported it, but I wonder why it was removed in the first place

[robust dove]

Wich one is ur fav AR yall and ill try

Mine is the lvar

[proven blade]

anybody noticed that you get shot in arms and legs most of time but rarely in chest? i just played with 2 of my friends new america mission hall, and we noticed we get shot 90% of time in arms and legs, but never in chest?

[glass heart]

brn-180 (fake name is arn-180) and h&k 416 (fake name ga-416)

[robust dove]

i like the last one too, gotta go try the first one

[glass heart]

its very short has little recoil and 300 blackout hits like a truck

one of the best rifles imo

[sharp cairn]

Depends on how you're using it tbh, out of shorter barrels?.300 BLK totally fucks. It's also nice to shoot supressed even with supers

I've shot supersonic .300 BLK out of a suppressed SBR before not wearing my earpro (PS don't try this). It wasn't bad

That being said, I'm a 20" barrel supremacist for ARs

[glass heart]

300 blackout is a lil different in the game in that its more penetrative than 5.56 despite it being bigger

in real life 5.56 would get better penetration due to the equation of kinetic energy

[sharp cairn]

Not really, 5.56 is totally doable for CQB because of how lightweight and fast the bullets are.

[glass heart]

also in game 300 straight up does more damage for equal capacity

[sharp cairn]

In fact, a 5.56 has less chance of overpenetration than pistol or shotgun does

[glass heart]

probably depends on the round

but police use jhp/ jsp for this exact reason

[sharp cairn]

Not really, I've seen M193 have less overpenetration than pistol hollow points do

As long as you do your part and actually hit the target, 5.56 tends to dump its energy. The only issue M193 has over hollow points is there is some potential for it to icepick in a body

[glass heart]

how does that work? it also depends on the barrrel but m193 will be moving at 3.000-2.500 fps while pistol rounds barely manage half that

[sharp cairn]

The reason being is that pistol bullets are slower and more solidly constructed

[glass heart]

surely a round with less mass but twice the velocity would be more penetrative

[sharp cairn]

They need to be since they lack the velocity of a rifle

[glass heart]

fair

most 9mm rounds are 100-150 gr, equivalent rifles are 7.62 nato and above

[sharp cairn]

As opposed to 5.56, which is so lightweight and fast moving it bleeds off energy fast. It doesn't have the mass to keep carrying through

Doubly so since spitzer bullets tend to yaw once they enter a body

[glass heart]

i see

also at sufficiently high velocity they fragment in flesh which makes them bleed off energy even more

[sharp cairn]

Actually no. Some ammunition can, but the fragmention of 5.56 is actually if the bullet hits a bone

Since it shatters the bone and has enough velocity to turn the bone fragments into shrapnel

The mods here definitely will not like me posting a pic of what that looks like IRL. But I can PM you if you really want to know

[glass heart]

go for it

[glass heart]

does m193 specifically do this?

assuming it doesnt actually hit bone which is not that likely

[sharp cairn]

But really, obsessing over ammo choice is what people to do compensate for a lack of knowledge on guns. Most of your duty calibers (5.56, 9mm, .40 S&W, .45 ACP, 12ga) are going to dump their energy in a body. Provided you do your part and actually hit the target. The biggest cause of overpenetration is missing, so don't miss

[sharp cairn]

Most 5.56 ammo will do this, with the exception of varmint rounds

Such as the Hornady VMax. Those little tiny 40gr bullets are meant for like, coyotes and foxes. Not people.

but most anything between 55gr and 75gr will behave like that

Me personally, my go-to ammo in 5.56 is the Federal T556TNB1, which is literally the SOST bullet loaded for carbine length barrels

But it performs well out of 7 inch barrels all the way up to 20" barrels

[glass heart]

whats the velocity out of a 7 inch

[sharp cairn]

Ditto for .308, that will be the T762TNB1

[sharp cairn]

Just sent. I spoiler tagged the exit wound for a reason

[sharp cairn]

This is a phenomena you see fairly often, since most people aren't used to being shot that. They tend to zoom in on the gun in someone's hands. Now due to the circumstances, you can be shot in any number of ways. But, if you're facing the target, odds are they'll shoot at your hands instinctively.

You'll see this is training exercises with UTM rounds all the time, people getting shot in the hands and wrists. There's also bodycam footage out there of police and security being shot like that, their vest stops the bullet, but now they're down to one hand. This is also one of the reasons why FBi requires a minimum 12" of penetration in ballistics gel, since the bullet so often has to travel through the hands and wrists before it ever even enters the chest

[glass heart]

additionally in the game aspect they kinda shoot all over the player and dont specifically aim center mass

exception is the MLO, who specifically aim for headshots

[sharp cairn]

Even then this training has been changed. It's not uncommon at all for bullets, especially handgun bullets, to richochet off skulls. So you're supposed to aim for the eye socket or the ear canal to ensure successful penetration and a CNS hit.

Even then, this isnt' a guarantee for a lot of calibers. I believe the minimum standard put forth by Dr Fackler is .308 in order for it to disrupt the CNS enough for a guaranteed lights out on the target.

But hitting an eyeball moving around in a gunfight is difficult, particularly if you're using handguns like most police do. Instead the training has been changed to aim for the throat instead nowadays

Real talk? Most of what you're going to hear on the internet is outdated by this point. A lot of data has come out which has totally changed things

[glass heart]

most guys who talk about this stuff on the internet talk about their experiences which were in the past im guessing

[sharp cairn]

Still, props to the dev team in Ready Or Not for doing their best to try to capture a lot of this and stay up to date. It's a daunting task for sure, but they're giving it their all

[sharp cairn]

Also there's been some studies released to the public by the FBI which changed everything

back in 2009. Which was over 15 years ago. GWOT progressed, street data from the FBI and police departments have progressed. New threats have emerged. New advances in technology have been made

tbh if they really want to add another level, the dev team needs to get with Axon and see the shit Axon is doing recently. it's mind blowing

I happen to be Axon certified and I've seen some of the new tech they're coming out with. It would really help put Ready Or Not ahead of the curve if they tapped into that stuff

[glass heart]

there are a bunch of tactical innovations they havent added yet

one thing that comes to mind is ENVG technology

[sharp cairn]

Yeah, and I'm saying they should start with the new Axon stuff such as their smart tasers and their advances in bodycams

[glass heart]

would be very powerful and make any other nv option obsolete though

[sharp cairn]

Since that would 1) introduce a new gameplay mechanic that is unique enough to set Ready Or Not apart from other tactical shooters and 2) it would be so tapped in that those of us who actually do this for a living would take notice and promote the game more for their accuracy

A lot of stuff stood out to me about Ready Or Not back in the day. Most notably the fact I've responded to a school shooter before. When I heard that 9-1-1 call for the school shooter map they had in Ready Or Not? I was blown away at the accuracy of that call.

Shit, if the mods wanted to DM me about stuff I'd be more than willing to put them in contact with people I know in the industry. As well as what I know personally from hands on experience. It wouldn't be the first time a writer, artist, developer, etc has reached out to me for technical advice

[glass heart]

i hope they do add what youre talking about, the current focus is on maps and guns which is fine but they need more specialist equipment

[sharp cairn]

I agree, more specialist equipment would really help set the game apart from its peers and competition

[tacit gull]

I dont see what adding different bodycams would add to the game

I would like to see more equipment that actually adds different gameplay though, a different taser isn't really what we need

[glass heart]

i dont think bodycams in specific would do much but other things axon offers would be nice

including tasers but they also make other things now

[sharp cairn]

Cut scenes, of course. Axon is distributing bodycams to more and more auxiliary units. So a cutscene showing their bodycam POV would help add flavor to introduce a map

Since y'know, they are there when it happens. Police have to mobilize and respond to it.

[tacit gull]

right but we haven't really had any cutscenes in game to introduce missions, at most i could see a bodycam perspective used in a trailer

[tulip raptor]

is there any way to sort your presets ingame?

[next lynx]

Don't think so

[fallen osprey]

in today's episode of trying to S-rank all the main levels:
-eli stares at a wall for a solid two seconds while being shot
-prescott stares at a wall for a solid two seconds while being shot
-eli stares at a wall for a solid two seconds while being shot (but different this time)
-a stinger bounces off an invisible wall and hits all my teammates, ruining a really good run of neon tomb

[waxen tartan]

Lmao sounds about right

#🎨ron-screenshots-and-art message

dawg what happened ? 💀 @hallow dew

[solemn patio]

imagine if they add a MP5K

[obsidian hornet]

Guys, is there a list somewhere of officer faces and their assigned voices? I want to have a variety of faces and voices in my roster in Commander Mode with as few duplicates as possible; anyone have a guide or something for this?

[waxen tartan]

Did you google or YouTube it ? Google is very helpful nowadays

[obsidian hornet]

I did; no dice. I also asked Gemini and it said no such data exists

[fallen osprey]

i dunno if its exactly what youre asking about but multiplayer, customization menu, voice and body customization, all of them are named i think

[obsidian hornet]

Yeah that only answers half of my question; it gives me a list of voices but it doesn't tell me which faces/names in campaign mode are automatically assigned those voices

My goal is for a lineup with as few duplicate voices as possible

[torn umbra]

Greetings, I come to this place seeking answers to a very frustrating matter.

Me and my friends have been trying to S-Rank A New America lately and we consistently always are missing one piece of evidence. We check every nook and cranny of all floors, count every weapon from every suspect yet we just always miss one.

[ocean steeple]

found a new bug on a new america

If you try and arrest a suspect on any of the stairs their gun will phase through the floor and into the void

you will not be able to collect it for full rank after this

[torn umbra]

Oh, is that what could be happening? Well, I'll keep it in mind next time, although I'm almost sure they were on flat surfaces during arrests.

[ocean steeple]

I’m not sure if its only on stairwells or everywhere but i literally just watched it happen

[sudden thorn]

what would you all say is the best sidearm because im currently using the g18-c but the five seven is looking really good again

Probably is the latter

[torn umbra]

I see. Odd thing is, I was counting guns, yet we always miss one somehow, never 2 or 3, always 1. A rifle and pistol for the trained suspects, one revolver for flower guy, one handgun for the regular thugs.

[glass heart]

five seven lol

best armor pen for its capacity

[ocean steeple]

it might be doing that then

[waxen tartan]

I discovered it once but i never found where it was again

[waxen tartan]

Five seven is definitely a favorite and one of the best in my opinion along with the default Glock

[ocean steeple]

also pro tip use the mirrorgun to peek around corners on ANA that shit has saved my life several times

[sudden thorn]

Got beamed in ends of the earth I should not be playing ready or not at 4am

I walked right into a suspect’s barrel

[lost inlet]

It would be very mid tbh.

[tacit gull]

i've heard enough, add another 1911

[rocky plover]

Or another Glock but with a calibre we don't have

[hasty hull]

.22

[obsidian hornet]

Is it true that Swat AI have infinite magazines but still have to reload?

[rocky plover]

Yes as long as you give them at least 1 mag

[obsidian hornet]

Ty. So they can just infinitely reload that single mag, correct?

[rocky plover]

Ye

[obsidian hornet]

Ty

[rocky plover]

You're welcome

[sudden thorn]

Okay I might actually just start playing multiplayer on casual the suspect ai is overtuned even on standard it’s taking the fun out of the game

[lost inlet]

P1445?

[fallen osprey]

35mm 1911

[quasi coral]

DAMN No Good Deed was tough

It's so hard to find any of the suspects, feels like a maze of some sort

Although dealing with the suspects wasn't difficult, they seem to be lacking marksmenship

It's also weird the last suspect ran out into our blockade(Spawn), should they do that??

[balmy patio]

No good deed is a speedrun mission just like the college map or the restaurant

Active shooter maps just force you to speedrun since they will dome civilians in record time especially with loud guns

I always recommend dealing with the suspects all around outside the main building first as theres no civilians to worry about inside since they are all fucking dead

[foggy knot]

Hey does anyone get worse performance on their game after a death? I noticed on two different missions that after a failed run, my GPU usage would spike to 99%, and stay there, with increased temps and decreased FPS, when previously it was performing much better

For example, running ides of March, average 120 fps, gpu usage about 85-95% with consistent fps. After a death, spawn back into headquarters, GPU pinned to 99% usage, FPS Dipping into the 80s

[queen jay]

i was doing relapse last night and i kept dying at the bridge to air molecules

[quasi coral]

You're right, don't worry I did play it out like that

When I heard the active shooter call, instantly knew what my goal was

[rocky raptor]

You need another AR-15 you say?

[lost inlet]

AR-1911.

[fallen osprey]

is by the book broken? 4u gas station, didnt even lower my gun, just reported crystal, veteran, and manager, still didnt get that (or tactician for that matter)

[fringe spade]

Hi, I'm trying for the Way Out West achievement for completing Rust Belt with the .357 Magnum, but I'm not getting it. I didn't use anything other than the gun, I played SOLO with no AI or friends, I didn't force doors, I didn't arrest anyone, I sent civilians to the exit, I kicked down locked doors, I didn't collect evidence or anything. And I still didn't get the achievement. Can anyone help me?

[chilly thorn]

honestly

a super short barreled mp5 would be nice

[lost inlet]

i guess, most SMG is already short anyway and positioning well can avoid your gun getting stuck in the wall.

[chilly thorn]

yeah but the mp5k with the grip and the stock is sexy

[lost inlet]

and we already have like... 3 MP5s.

use mod for that i guess.

[chilly thorn]

Yeah and we have like 12 ar15s so who cares

[lost inlet]

MP5A3 with vertical grip have a very similar look anyway.

[chilly thorn]

Yeah but mods just wanna add a bunch of military larp guns with a bunch of magnifiers and others grips

[dense coral]

finally completed sins of the father

[chilly thorn]

good job

[rocky plover]

Swat AI can use anything except shields
Need grade C or higher
Command AI to do everything
Make sure to fire at least once from revolver

[fringe spade]

Ah, okay, I got an E grade, now I understand

[rocky plover]

Also I just saw you did it solo, use the AI and make them clear the map for you, much easier tbh just don't give them shield

[fringe spade]

I will do it like you say, thx u

[rocky plover]

You're welcome

[copper dome]

Buh buh buh boring

[rocky plover]

🤷

Just don't play then

[copper dome]

They can use shields wdym

[rocky plover]

Not for that achievement

[copper dome]

The achievement doesn’t specify no long tactical tbf

Just says weapon

[rocky plover]

Yea plenty of achievements don't specify anything or have wrong description

It's just how it is

[chilly thorn]

most likely miscommunication between who coded the acievements and who put them in steam

[rocky plover]

Yea probably

[balmy patio]

I swear ima do sum to these mfs at void 😭

I be so excited finally see a damn new gun

Wow its just another damn ar15

I cant tell what the hell is different from the arwc arn and sr16

Same for all the mp5 variants like they dont got the stock of the OG

And one of them got that lame ass straight magazine

[obsidian hornet]

What do you guys think is better; Breacher (extra morale damage from breaching tools) or Pacifier (chance for instant surrender when hit with less-lethal gadgets and grenades)?

[vivid widget]

i know that the best weapons for .300 blk out it's the arn, and for 7.62 it's the ga51 or g3a3 but what about 5.56?
between f90, g36c, mcx, and

[bold sky]

doubt if arn is still best .300 when dm4 has a bit more recoil but shorter barrel and faster fire rate now

pull your arms down a bit and thats it

[rocky plover]

Definitely pacifier between those 2

Breacher barely makes a difference while negotiator and pacifier are amongst the best traits

[rocky plover]

Arn has much lower recoil especially with sfmb + vertical grip, while the LVAR is in between the arn and dm4pdw

But ye it is super short hence pdw

[rocky plover]

They all very close to each other tbh, g36C, sr16, f90, MCX (in that order from least recoil)

[vivid widget]

right yeah, still trying to choose between the 5.56 calibers because i prefer using them even on standard where 7.62 is a one shot incap

[rocky plover]

Yea same

The sr16 is very nice tbh if you don't mind the weapons length

If you want a shorter 5.56, then g36C, f90, and MCX also good

[vivid widget]

been using the mcx for the most part, wanting to try something new and give my ai something new as well

[sturdy bison]

Goddam useless I say

[rocky plover]

To each his own but it's the 2nd lowest recoil AR

[sturdy bison]

Ain’t hitting jack shit with a gun that long, in close quarters

[rocky plover]

MCX is good, try g36C and f90 then, just be aware that the f90 has a free lean bug where your aim keeps snapping back with every shot

[vivid widget]

dear god wtf

[rocky plover]

Don't have a problem with it myself tbh especially when you get used to it

[vivid widget]

i'll try the g36c ig

[wide verge]

Morning guys

[rocky plover]

I've been using the new 6.5 creedmore gun in cqc lately and I don't have problems with it

[vivid widget]

main thing is that i do like suppressors, but they don't seem very useful in the grand scheme of things sadly

[rocky plover]

Good morning

[rocky plover]

Yea I use sfmb and call it a day tbh

[wide verge]

You can use the SR16 for every mission without issues. Weapon length isn't that big of a deal

[sturdy bison]

Which was the gun that used the wolf rounds? Or whatever it’s called

[vivid widget]

g36c it is then
what pistol? or is it just really between mkv and 5/7

[wide verge]

The new 2011 is great

[rocky plover]

For armored yea sadly, I do like the new 9mm pistols though even though it's not that good on armored enemies

[wide verge]

Glock 18 for 24 round mag

[vivid widget]

yeah g18c and s2011 seems cool as hell

[rocky plover]

The g18c reload bug needs to be fixed though ffs

[sturdy bison]

Is the rtwc a good rifle?

[wide verge]

I use the M11 a lot

[rocky plover]

Yes especially with JHP on standard (it 1 shots enemies without extra health modifier)

[wide verge]

Gonna be months until that is gonna get fixed

[rocky plover]

Just be aware JHP 6.5 sucks against limbs sadly

[vivid widget]

also wondering what pistols to give to my swat ai, initially i just gave them all mk-v and shield but i recently changed so that each one has a different long tactical

one with shield, one with flash, one with ram, one with breach shotgun just for variety and utility

[sturdy bison]

Even though it’s got such a long barrel?

[rocky plover]

Yea we only had 1 "patch" that barely did anything since the update

[rocky plover]

If it doesn't bother you, then yes.

[sturdy bison]

Well if it ain’t close quarters sure

[wide verge]

The best thing to do is aim center mass, upper chest. Double tap and the recoil often leads to head shots on second shot

[sturdy bison]

Though I do want to see how effective some scumbag can stand up to a rifle round of that calibre

[rocky plover]

Id say it's the best battle rifle now, since it can 1 shot with JHP just like 7.62 can, and it has way lower recoil than 7.62

[wide verge]

No full auto tho. Some don't like that lol

[rocky plover]

True but it has high RoF with single fire taps anyways

[sturdy bison]

So just as good as that deadly ak

[vivid widget]

does that make 6.5 better than ga51 and g3a3? aside from the huge barrel

[rocky plover]

Id say for up to L3 armor on standard without extra health modifier use 6.5 JHP
For L4 armor on standard without extra health modifier use 7.62 AP

[rocky plover]

^ see the above

[rocky plover]

No, the ak uses 7.62x39 not 7.62x51 which is basically same as .300

[sturdy bison]

Why do all those rifles have only 20 rounds though,

[vivid widget]

how does the extra health modifier change things?

[rocky plover]

Won't be 1 shot anymore

[wide verge]

Because they're higher caliber

[rocky plover]

So 5.56 or .300 would be better imo

[sturdy bison]

Different calibre more omph right?

[rocky plover]

Yea 5.56
.300 & 7.62x39 (same dmg)
6.5 creedmore
7.62x51
In that order

[vivid widget]

guess that's why i'm a 5.56 fan

2 shots to the chest is all it takes

[wide verge]

You guys want a drum mag on a 7.62 and go full auto lol

[rocky plover]

Yeah same however I switched to .300 alot

[lost inlet]

no it does not.

JHP 6.5 only deals 160 damage

[sturdy bison]

So the creedmore packs more a punch outta all the battle rifles then?

[rocky plover]

I meant without sorry, fixed it

[lost inlet]

no, it's the weakest in battle rifle category.

[rocky plover]

No 7.62x51 deals more

[vivid widget]

no it's just less recoil and effectively takes the same amount of hits to down people, so if you care about recoil it's the best unless you get to l4 plates

[rocky plover]

It's between .300 and 7.62x51

[vivid widget]

7.62 is always a one shot incap to the chest

at least on standard difficulty

[rocky plover]

On standard yea

[sturdy bison]

Good to know cause I’m getting tired of useing the slr47

[vivid widget]

on hard it becomes a 2 shot, which is where you just go and use .300 blk out or 5.56 at that point

[rocky plover]

Slr47 is basically same as the .300blackout guns

[wide verge]

This is why hard mode sucks

[rocky plover]

Since it's 7.62x39, different than 7.62x51

[sturdy bison]

Explain, is it cause the ammo is the same

[rocky plover]

Yea agree, .300 JHP especially up to L3 and 5.56 AP for up to L4

[vivid widget]

i just use 5.56 ap all around, even on standard
just feels the most consistent to me

[rocky plover]

In game they gave .300 blackout and 7.62x39 same damage

[sturdy bison]

Well I thought it was piss poor weak

[obsidian hornet]

Ty

[rocky plover]

Yea still good, I try to avoid AP wherever I can though since JHP is very good against limbs

[vivid widget]

fair fair

[rocky plover]

You're welcome

[rocky plover]

Not weak but not as strong as 6.5 or 7.62x51

5.56 JHP is good as well but sadly only up to L2

[vivid widget]

still wondering about what pistols i should give to my swat ai, initially i just gave them all mk-v and shield but i recently changed so that each one has a different long tactical

one with shield, one with flash, one with ram, one with breach shotgun just for variety and utility

so now i'm curious if i just keep them with mkv or switch to something else

[sturdy bison]

So the battle riffled are better choices then

[rocky plover]

Depends on a lot of things, maps (what armor they got), difficulty, even personal preference

[rocky plover]

I think MkV yeah

[vivid widget]

mk v it is lol
and i use mkv for myself as well or 5/7

[rocky plover]

Since most of the enemies have armor

[rocky plover]

Both good tbh, but MkV is better against L4, 57 is good up to L3

[sturdy bison]

Casual I play all the time, (dont got the patience to get killed again an again)

[vivid widget]

i think my ai is probably just going to be using the rifles anyway lol, i just give them the same rifle that i use

but mkv is still best so

[rocky plover]

Yeah

Even for yourself, pistol is only going to be a backup as a last resort most of the time

Or maybe in very tight spaces

[vivid widget]

ye even with only 4 mags i rarely use anything close to 2

especially since it only takes 2 shots to incap regardless

[full matrix]

are servers down for anyone? can't join friends lobbies or vice versa

[rocky plover]

Yea same, I take 4 primary, 2 secondary and most of the time I only use around half

[vivid widget]

i take 4 primary 3 secondary, though i should probably lower it to 2 secondary to get an extra flash

[rocky plover]

Some people just remove the secondary ammo all together tbh, but I do like it for those tight spaces, or shooting windows or traps from afar, or for those hostage situations when I have a shotgun as primary

So I keep 2 mags just in case for that^

1 in the gun and 1 extra to reload

[vivid widget]

i should try using a shotgun some time, though with the way i play i just kind of larp as a swat officer
lethal weapons but always trying to respect roe and only shooting when needed

shotguns don't exactly fit that style of play lol

[rocky plover]

With most of the pistols I'd say agree yes, with Mkv maybeee since it only has a couple rounds

[vivid widget]

yeah that's the main reason i use 3 for mkv

[rocky plover]

Ye makes sense

[rocky plover]

Yea shotgun screams destruction with how OP it is lmao

Id say it's even better than a battle rifle 🤣

[vivid widget]

shotguns are still a guilty pleasure, can never go wrong with a benelli m4

[rocky plover]

Ikr!

[vivid widget]

maybe i'll use it if i ever go for programmed psychosis
dear god that achievement terrfies me

[rocky plover]

Yea I used the m1014 actually for that achievement

With buckshot

B1301 is also very good and common choice for that

[vivid widget]

ye

still need to go through the dlcs in order, up to leviathan now

[rocky plover]

Nice

Good luck for next one after leviathan

[vivid widget]

3 letter triad i've heard is a pain yeah, 25+ enemies is crazy
might be the only time where i run into ammo issues lol

[rocky plover]

Tell me about it... When I was doing hard S on it

28 suspects, highest in all of the maps

Had to use beanbag cos flash launcher ammo wasn't enough

Even with the other flash launcher as a backup it still wasn't enough

[vivid widget]

dear lord
that'll be interesting to go through

[rocky plover]

Id say it's up there near a new America in terms of difficulty

Very close actually

[vivid widget]

i've played a new america in a VC squad already lol, probably shouldn't have done that before doing the others first
but yeah that mission is brutal

[rocky plover]

At least in a new America it's easier containing the suspects with wedges, in 3 letter triad it's way harder to do that

[robust olive]

how do i arrest the fisa agent in greased palms bro hes stuck starring at me n ive tried tasering him and flashbangs

[stable kernel]

@livid elbow you should check the keybinds list, as it is already a feature and has been since forever.

[floral peak]

If S rank, restart
If not, just shoot him in legs until he drops

[quasi coral]

Been trying to cleanly do All God's Burn but my mentally ill teammates keep shooting the fucking civis

And civis keep RUNNING INFRONT OF THE GUNFIRE

Holy shit if ya'll don't think you're active enough, run this and everytime you mess up you do five pushups

I'm on my 30th pushup and it's only been an hour or less

[rocky plover]

😂 ngl it's easier giving them the flash launcher instead of an actual firearm

their aim is kinda so and so sometimes and the flash launcher has an AoE effect at least

[floral peak]

yeah, gave my AI launchers and took lethal myself

[quasi coral]

You're damn right, I'm doing that instead

[floral peak]

some of my ai died, but hey at least i cleared the lobby

[quasi coral]

Wow that message took so damn long to send

[floral peak]

after you clear lobby you almost done

[quasi coral]

No one will die on my watch, except the suspects

[floral peak]

Its just Lobby and Vault the most dangerous

[quasi coral]

On my 35th pushup because the bad guys shot the chemical bombs

[floral peak]

also try snipe some suspects behind windows while outside

[quasi coral]

I'll try

Then I'll get my guys to breach

40th pushup, the ai took hostages and I hit the hostage on accident

[floral peak]

i can try play with you

it should be way easier with 2 players

[quasi coral]

45th pushup, flashbang and 9 bang barrage from me and my teammates did not work and my guys shot a civi running across

[quasi coral]

What's yer region?

[floral peak]

East Europe

[quasi coral]

I'm in Asia

[floral peak]

i played even with US, had normal ping

[floral peak]

i played with Asia too

[quasi coral]

Yea, it's normal for ya, for me it's around 300 or higher

[floral peak]

youll be the host then

and 300 aint that bad

[quasi coral]

I have a friend in Europe I also game with, it's either she's handicapped or I am

[floral peak]

i can work with that

trust

[quasi coral]

Alright then, dm me yer steam

[floral peak]

aye, gimme sec

for some reason i cant DM you

says i need to be your friend xd

1840631557 is my steam code

[rocky plover]

can i join in as well?

[loud whale]

Dumb question, in the New America mission, when you find the jammer laptop, do you need to rush to the courthouse to take down the main bomber? I always find it before I get to that main open area with the staircase that has a ton of enemies

And I'm trying to beat that 2-3 minute clock that TOC says

[rocky plover]

yes but i suggest saving it when you actually need to clear the courthouse, clear everything around it first and then use jammer and clear courthouse because you only have 2-3 mins of jamming the signal, that way you don't need to clear alot of area in that time

[loud whale]

Ah ok, last couple times I found it, activated it then rushed past half the guys to the courthouse while ai cleared behind me, then accidentally killed the dude and it failed the mission anyway

because he blew up the building

[rocky plover]

yeah save it for the actual courthouse, because from jammer to courthouse there's a lot of ground to clear and cover and would take way longer than 3 mins

ye dont kill him either

[loud whale]

I got right up to him yesterday and gave him a legshot with my SCAR..and i thought he was alive..think he bled out from the 7.62 which triggered it

Oops lol

[rocky plover]

damn haha

[wide verge]

If I give one swat ai guy the shield and tell them to breach and enter, will the shield guy take point?

[rocky plover]

ye they should swap before entering

[wide verge]

Is the shield effective?

[rocky plover]

when used by someone who knows how to use it especially with good teamwork, then yes super good, swat AI are kinda hit or miss with it however, you're kinda taking away some of their fire power to have better protection, so 50-50 i'd say

[wide verge]

If it improves their survivability, its a win

[jolly verge]

100% bleed chance on 7.62x51 be like

[loud whale]

I should have 9 banged him once more instead, i wanted to stun with 7.62 too..lol

[rocky plover]

he surrenders, pretty easily though, even by just shouting sometimes, just be careful he can get back up and use his revolver though

[loud whale]

Ah ok

[rocky plover]

it's more the mlo guys that's nearby him that are more of a risk

[loud whale]

Also is there a point to disabling the IR laser traps? Sometimes I feel like shooting one guy to lure the others in is easier

[clever cape]

Guys I need help

In a new america dlc

[rocky plover]

Yea, kinda cos I noticed sometimes they can come in groups even from other floors towards your position, not just the ones nearby, it can be used to your advantage as well though so depends.

[loud whale]

Fair enough, yeah I've been disabling them regularly

[clever cape]

Hey, can u play with the dlc

I really want to complete it

[rocky plover]

Not right now, just switched off the game gotta do smth else