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The shell itself is made of ceramic so it shatters and is very unlikely to penetrate the door
but often itās a standard shotgun primer, and the shot itself is a bunch of metal powder, suspended in wax itās supposed to fall apart when it hits something hard and the metal dust goes flying and rips apart the lock without going through the door itself
Or just press 4 once for taser (make sure to put taser first in equipment)
I wish we could see what our TOC looked like
I know how they look like
taser is goated (only with the mod š )
alr ill try
what mod? is there an extendy mod?
I had a thought while playing through āthe spiderā earlier
Brexley was in the signal Corp. Do we think he was manipulated by USIA?
relapse is impossible bro
the 2 stairways to every floor is just too much
if only i had enough team members to leave atleast 2 to watch the stairways..
but nope! its 5 swat members vs a whole ass hospital
You can do it
I done it alot
S rank though, I dunno man
i lit quit this game because i couldnt do S rank relapse as my last S rank
now i did it and im trying to do it on hard mode for "im tood old for this" or whatever the achievment was called
oh
praying for you to get well soon cause you gotta be a sick fuck to do Relapse Hard

gotta do it to 100% ready or not base edition
relapse is literally top 2 hardest missions oath
greased palms with just a taser is easier bruh
this is the zillionth time im getting third partied on because of every floor having 2 stairways
i also just got new headphones so im pretty much playing on mono audio till i get used to them
my bullet which is JHP btw just commited overpen on a suspect and killed a civilian behind them
what the fuck this game really hates me
i thought one of the bigger reasons police uses hollow points is just that
Lemme dm u twin š
I dm'ed u
yurt
are enemies on ANA immune to gas?
Any enemy wearing a gas mask is immune to gas
MLO only
Is there a mod to give you basically god mode but still be able to get achievements ?
Mods do not affect achievements or anything else, so feel free to use any mod that makes the game more easier 
is my eyes burn bugged?
is no good deed better or worse to s rank than all gods burn?
Ur eyesight is poor š
real
id say that no good deed is probably harder to s rank overall, itās quite a big map and the suspects will start executing civilians if you take too long if I remember correctly, the map being big also allows them to shoot you from a lot of the time as youāre rushing through it to try and find the suspects
the only actually hard part for all gods burn is probably the beginning lobby area as I do get the civilians mixed up with the suspects quite a lot which leads to less desirable outcomes
all gods burn is definitely the easiest level of boiling point though
Also watch out for the gas traps on both levels
Iām pretty sure thereās also gas canisters you can accidentally shoot with release the deadly gas so be careful shooting
how do u enable only the laser on laser/light dual attatchments?
hold the button you would normally use the activate the laser/light to cycle it to the laser and then ir laser is you wanted then
holding that again cycles it back to the flashlight
As in if you hold it it will then allow you to activate the laser the next time you just press the button
holding it does nothing
Pressing the button normally toggles the flashlight on or off, hold the button instead to cycle to the laser, then press the button again to activate the laser
You can also have both the laser and flashlight on together if you wanted that
Although trying to put both lasers on turns off the last one turned on
Nice
as long as it doesnt say "report dead" then it still counts as taking them in right?
Depends
If you re S ranking, no, you have to arrest them

But I you aren't, then its going to affect the score after completing
Bu I personally like to kill the ones that deserve it
What pistols do you guys run? Like general purpose not trying to do a specific thing
The only cosmetic item I donāt have in the game is the devil tattoo as I didnāt see the carving on the table in the alternate ending and I know I will never use it at all but itās really itching me that I donāt have absolutely everything and I feel like I need to get it
my go to has become the 1911 I donāt even know why but i always stick with it
for hvt yes, for arrest objectives otherwise no
if i shoot michael and hes not dead it counts as arresting him, but an objective saying ''arrest x suspects'' doesnt work if they are incapacitated
if you dont want to deal with hvts being annoying use the wanted dead or alive mod
and yes
yeah i know about no mercy, great mod
word
im something a purist tho shi lowk irritating to see unnoficial score w mod stuff, i might run mods and mess around when i complete everything s tier
despite what you may think you still get s rank achievements if you use mods lol
just that the score doesnt save in the ui, but the achievement can still be obtained
im awareš«” also i just tried getting mods actually a second ago and my shi wouldnt even open, kept trying to see if a specific mod was the issue but i tried literally every mod on its own and got the same error
white screen of death rip
was it nexus or mod.io
did the same thing good luck brother use the flash launcher
How do you get that tattoo?
devil tattoo?
Yes
In the prison cell, on the table I believe is a devil carving or something along that, interact with that to get it
shit let me go speed run blowing up the towers then š
I missed that and only got the handcuff and I know Iāll never use that tattoo but I feel like I need it my completionist side is calling me
And to get that ending you gotta s rank ana but then blow up the bomb yourself right?
I did try and go for it again but I got pissed off that I kept getting beamed despite running full heavy armor with the rotating flash launcher
I donāt believe you have to s rank it first but you do have to blow it up
Oh OK cool. The Good ending you have to s rank it tho right?
im gonna just get all my guys flash launchers and use lethal myself to bum rush them and go for boom boom device
Yeah good ending is s rank
You get a pretty nice watch for doing it, Flair Nite Watch I believe itās called
The one I mainly use now it looks nice
I definitely gotta do both then
I didn't know there were either lol
Yeah it really annoys me that they couldnāt just give you both when completing the alternate ending by default instead of making you look at a small detail a lot of people most likely missed
I canāt even be bothered to get the tattoo I think Iāll just skip getting it
i guess i understand the idea of wanting us ot explore but yea thats a bit annoying
you know what else hurts about being a completionist?
my eyes it burns (65/66)
when equipping a gas mask, is it possible to remove the black corners?
I did explore the cell which annoys me but because I didnāt see the carving on the table that means I donāt get it but yeah at the end of the day itās just a tattoo that I was never going to use so im not missing out on much
im looking all over for that damn carving
Using flash goggles or a gas mask puts on the black corners and taking those off removes them I believe
Itās on the table I think
From what Iāve heard
can confirm, on the front left of the table (while facing the left wall the table is mounted to)
strobe light and 50 ae vector it is
Only with mod
Hello, Iām looking for players for serious tactical gameplay! No rushing or friendly fire. Preferably 18+ (or younger but mature players). I mainly play in the evening and sometimes during the day. Iām looking for French-speaking players.
not french speaker but i definetly love me some tactical gameplay. also am 17, soooo
@granite elk i think its to do with the mind control making him believe "the devil made me do it"
or that he himself has become the devil through his evil deeds
I hope the alternate ending isnāt canon thereās still a few loose ends like fisa and the spider that need to be wrapped up
I wouldnāt be entirely against it but I would prefer not
Although to be honest on one hand I wouldnāt mind those two plot points going unresolved
id like to think it is but it doesnt make a lot of sense to continue the story from there
Just like in real life there are corrupt government agents and really horrible people who are just allowed to run free because of their power and influence and get no consequence for their misdeeds
unless hes pardoned or we become a new main character
Yeah
i think a judge joins fisa dlc would be really interesting
I mean I donāt think theyād pardon him for essentially causing another 9/11
wherein he investigates their misdeeds but also sees life through their eyes, their operations going across the country
the USIA and FISA live in a world with a power embalance, they could pull that shit
Yeah true
which feels like the natural continuation for the good ending, judge recognized for his achievements goes to FISA and LSPD fades into the background for a while
which ending is canon then? the bomb one or the s rank one?
we dont know
i think the bomb one would be more interesting but harder to pull off while keeping the game on theme
Maybe they could do both, two dlcs following both endings and itās up to the community to choose witch one we prefer
it could be like maybe depends on what ending you did mroe recently
Would be a lot of work but would be interesting
btw what happens in the bad one?
I would like a dlc where we can get some mlo gear, I love the head scarfs some of them have and would kill to get those for us
i saw the cutscene via yt but i didn't really understand
Judge activates the bombs himself and is arrested for doing so but a strange man appears one day while he is rotting in prison and goes on a rant about the usia and some things I forgot and then leaves after asking judge something to which judge agrees
Kind of forgot most of it but itās along the lines of that
I do hope that for the next dlc we get some cosmetic options for the sections we donāt get much variants for, like the quad nvgs, ballistic masks, glasses, belts, etc
Flash goggle glasses too
how did yall do no good deeds s rank?
i can't get more than 5 dudes without the rest starting to shoot the rest of people
I just rushed though it like I would rush through hunger strike and elephant and I just hoped for the best
do i focus on the outside first?
Iād say so, no civilians are on the inside areas like the haunted house or gassed out arcade from what I remember
Majority of suspects are on the main pier and the many small buildings around it so search those first before going inside
aaaaaaaand a hostage was iklled again
I really do hope we get the mlo scarfs though that are really long and cover the suspects faces as an option someday they look so good
The mloās gear overall just looks so good I need that
rip, just keep trying and youāll get it eventually, even with the same strategy I told you it took me a few tries, itās just luck based like elephant and hunger strike unfortunately
i was doing arcade cuz i thought i had the outside done
which is hell honestly because the police suits fuse in with the backgruond
True
I did get shot from afar a lot as I didnāt see the suspects because of their uniforms
that's another issue really
they can see you in the dark but you can't see them
but that's more general wise
Yeah the suspect ai needs an entire rehaul itās the worst thing about this game
Sneak up behind a dude making no sound and they turn around and shoot you in 50 ms in the head thrice
Sorry youāre dead try again
Embed fail hehehehe
has hardly happened to me really
if i sneak up behind someone either i headshot or i just yell
depends on what i'm aiming for
you get my point though the ai is just cracked and overtuned
yeah
Swat ai being the opposite which makes commander more frustrating then anything
honestly i got an overhaul mod bc of that
because swat would either not shoot back or just get shot down and have no reaction
I really hope the next dlc has a complete swat and suspect ai overhaul
Would genuinely make the game so much more fun
Atleast the dumb cod coded multiplayer players try to shoot back or run into cover
The bots just stand there and get killed itās so infuriating when that happens
i'll be honest i'll do a new america first
One of the Top 3 guns in the game
u playing hard mode?
hard mode was made just to spite utter BS for the dudes htat got way too many hours on a low hour game like this
i've been
nvm i just tried to do it again and i was able to do it
does ANA only have gas traps and IR sensors or also frag traps on hard?
i saw some nades
there are frags on hard yes
ok so i may be stupid but like its worth running stab vest on new america hard cause armor doesnt do anything
I got a question
i may have an answer
no
Nope, never.
ok so i die in 2 shots either way so i might aswell take the flashbangs
Youāre playing on hard?
yea
armor helps
Of course you would.
i still die so fast i might aswell take the flashbangs and move speed
its just maybe they shoot you in the legs or head
Suspectās rifles shoots 50% than their standard counterparts.
You also takes more damage because damage cap got increased.
or the fn fal that shoots a round rated upto gost 5a
yes i understood everything you typed right now
TLDR, donāt bother playing on hard cause void created that mode with no thinking behind it, overbuffed enemies and overnerfed players is their mentality when creating hard mode.
so i want the achevement
Digital badge means nothing.
yea
Use mods i guess.
no
They donāt interferes.
i mean i find the hard mode to be better then standard
Okay, have fun i guess.
wouldnt say the player is nerfed, your still alot stronger then most of the suspects
i mean i did buy a tactical shooter so like
they can be a life saver
fork found in kitchen
Damage cap increased from 70 to 80:
Less lethal stun duration cuts in half:
Gas grenade needs twice as long to takes effect:
Hard is just standard but you sweat more and harder.
Thatās it.
gas nades are useless and the stun on less lethal is fine?
ok but thats not really saying much when you have to fight dozens of them
and each individual suspect can kill you nearly instantly if he gets to fire at you
it's not that bad tbh
Does console still not have keyboard support?
SA58, M14, and custom AR-15s from what i remember
Welcome to the game!!
fuckass ai
Youāll see it happen on Hard a bunch at times too
I tried going for Programmed Psychosis recently, and got killed through a solid wall after taking cover (I saw the bullet holes being made while I died)
Sounds about right 
Nope
literally just now suspect AI saw me, aimed at me, shot me all this in less than 0.20 seconds
your telling me all these years it's still the same
amazing stuff
I'm getting gun downed through wall's while wearing steel plates heavy armor
even insurgency sandstorm's ai doesent have these bugs.
they usually aimlock after they start shooting at you regardless if theres a wall in the way or not, so gotta kill them on the first spot, fr fr
prefiring harder might be fun
unless you mean funny glass or stupid cluttered window you cant see shit from but the ai has perfect 100/100 vision, in which case gg
Ngl RoN AI really be rocking Sharingan out there šš
so they never added the hotel level back in, huh?
shame. I thought it was one of it's stronger climaxes
ai teammates have infinite magazines right
Only if you give them one magazine
They never reload if you give them just one
what???
Whatās pissing me off right now is that Iām playing the campaign all the way through on casual before I attempt to s-rank any levels. But casual is WAY too easy. So I raised it to standard, and immediately got mowed down in 23 megabytes
Hey my replays are not showing in replays section, I hosted a session but I played Solo
9 bang scares the shit out of me every time. I forget that I chose it, and suddenly think I have walked into a gunmanās line of sight
lmfao
I deliberately chose it since I started playing solo a few days ago
the short fuse is so nice to work with, allows for quicker gameplay
Has there ever been given a reason why the levels are all out of order?
What do you mean? Like that you don't play all child exploitation levels at once?
that, plus mindjolt should come before the spider
I'm not aware of any reason, but it seems more realistic since when you storm a location, time needs to pass for the evidence to get investigated
Or that the dates are all weird. Chronologically, neon tomb should be second.
hm
Hardmode enemies are genuinely just some bullshit
Looked it up, itās for difficulty purposes
Yeah imagine doing TYCA and then arguably top 3 hardest maps in the base game
really? Is that from void or speculation
I fucking guess slug ammo has 2 meter fucking range
Genuinely who at VOID decided Armoured suspects that are clearly not wearing armour was good game design?
I'm bringing 7.62 AP to every mission because I can't be sure anymore
Atp 7,62 ain't enough tbh
You need AP only on 4 missions
atp im kinda confused why this game gets so much praise, is the game good? sure, have they done literally anything in the years its been out? besides more paid dlc No
Except for 5.56 
if they're PMCs or security expect them to be wearing armor otherwise most dont atleast not concealed body armor
5.56 ap also cuts it pretty well
just because a game stops developing doesnt mean what they made isnt good and the new content is still good even if its just dlc stuff
mfs cant even get a new gun here and there tho?
theres mods literally everywhere
console
and im pretty sure they did add new guns
i have to get deluxe to use the busted ass flash launcher
thats grim
Hi everyone 
you cant expect them to add a million guns or new cosmetics every update though, they're an independent project not AAA game and even then you can only add so much content before your reinventing the wheel
steam ANGRY!!

what if im just steam okay
theyve made a bazillion dollars and the swat ai are still useless

no not happy just okay
i dont think this guy understands the state of neutral being

if I wanna get all the dlcs, is it worth buying the deluxe edition, or just get all the dlcs except the soundtrack? as it doesn't really matter to me
Do you already own the base game?
nope, but I wanna get it
Then get the deluxe edition, you get all the dlc with it for around 6 extra bucks instead of paying around 12 for them separately
even without the soundtrack it's cheaper?
If you get the base game and then seperately buy the DLCs without the soundtrack itll still cost you way more than just getting the deluxe edition,
Yeah trust me bro just save yourself some money and get the deluxe edition especiall while its super on sale rn, i wish i woulda done that š
yeah, because it's on a 50% sale I'm really thinking about getting it
Get it 
Can confirm, one of the Junky managed to hit me while he faced the opposite direction, after i free leaned lol. Idk what caused him to do that
I got the deluxe edition rn
Hope you enjoy it bro, Im jealous lol
you got it at the regular price?
a 50% sale is the largest the game had
from what I checked
Yeahhh, bid sadge, its a long story but its kinda not my fault lol, I asked my roommate to go on my computer and buy me the deluxe edition while i was away for a couple days, when i got back he had bought the standard edition and already played on my account for like 4 hours, so im fucked unfortunately
And they got the perfect aim for the head for some reason
you will never replace peanut butter jelly time
Is Standard too easy in your opinion?
Well, overall itās easy
Tho I donāt really play it in long time
I mostly play on hard

Are the DLCs needed to reach 100% completion in commander mode??
no
yes, and hard is too overtuned 
is everyone in ANA immune to gas or just selected few?
i think every suspect in the dlc is immune to gas
cs gas atleast
they're not immune to their own fuckin gas 

Standard becomes the easiest from how the M32A1s exist ngl
It feels like Hard was made specifically to give them at least any form of resistance
Everything else is on a more level field for Standard
Instant Flashbangs on sight at angles that Suspects may not even get to see you at, breaks the game a fair bit
Even on something like a Shotgun or Battle Rifle thatās generally good on Lethal, you still have to engage using those types of weapons
On the Launchers, you donāt
We should get a p90
whoās gonna tell them
We have one dont we
Itās one of my guilty pleasures to use occasionally
Its a good cop gun honestly
the ballet of bullets is music to my ears
I guess the caliber/killing power maybe?
Yeah, it got put into a subclass on Boiling Pointās release for that
Used to be with SMGs in the same class iirc
What actually is the difference between a PDW and an SMG?
Thatās actually a good question
Iām not enough of a gun nut to know the exact reason
The only thing I could find online is a PDW is typically more powerful
Ment to be a in intermediate class between rifle and SMG
makes sense
specifically designed for like tank crew and drivers and stuff where space is at a premium, but they still want to have a decent amount of power if they need to use
Most other games that have the P90 for me, just say itās an SMG lol
It has a wird caliber
And the magazine looks wird
I wonder how they get the rounds to flip over like that
yeah the magazine is very unique
All the LSPD budget at its finest 
why are the Belgians so good at makeing firearms?
brings 5 magazines of P90 ammo
Its still a good cop wepon though
Compact so its useful for CQC the main issue is over penetration
oh yeah AP ammo on that thing blows through walls
Belgian engineering, I assume
I didnāt realize how old FN was
1600s
I heard somewhere that theyāre working on prototype guns that can take multiple calibers
high recoil, even more so if your arms got hit.
PDW is a compact firearm designed to penetrate body armor.

what is fn
Fabrique National Herstal
A firearms manufacturer
why are you saying 1600s
Because I was mentioning how old that company is
they only started making guns in the 1890s
Its the same with glock
what?
glock started off as a general manufacturer, they made clocks and some tools
there first firearm was only made in the early 1960s
from glock? isn't the first one from the 80s?
when they arrived in america yes
i dont know anything about a glock gun from the 60s
there early concept was in the early 1960s
austrian police and military were the first people to have them
all of the current RON loadout/map randomizer tools are outdated, so I made an excel sheet that does that. If anyone wants to use it lmk
according to glock's own website they didnt make any guns until 1980 with the glock 17
before that they made like knives and other small shit
yeah i miss worded pretty bad
bro i finally s ranked greased palms
without following any tutorial
just rushed it
awesome
W profile picture btw goated show
completed relapse, now I only have 1 more mission until the DLCs
Trying to platinum RoN is a nightmare
agree
can the ai at all use tasers?
lit half the tools we can equip them with are useless
pepper spray, taser, lockpick gun
especially the lockpick gun
ALL of the gadgets are useless on the ai
they are insanely slow with them, they don't aim them towards suspects and most of the time they will fail to deploy them
even grenades lol
especially grenades
the ai is just gunmen that picks stuff up for you
the big gadgets are also useless on them
they would be useful if they could hand them to you
like the shield and such
being able to trade equipment would make the ai 500x more useful
since they can be mules for the shit you need
or if they had some kind of preset way of throwing a grenade for each diffrent door
it would be useful if you could aim where they throw it but i cannot think of a way to make that work
its almost like swat 4 understood this was an issue and made grenades affect entire rooms rather than the convoluted ass system they have right now that just DOESNT WORK with ai throws
i can understand why they made grenades less effective, but you need to find a solution for ai throws if you're gonna fucking do that
Hello guys! I want to do the "the hermit" achievement. If i fire an officer does it still count? (i want the gold watch too)
achievement - no kia and incap
watch - no kia and resigns
firing is fine but be aware that it increases stress i think for the other officers
Thank you!
you're welcome
You also need to get a C on the final map, Port
in a New America, does completing the soft objective activate a timer for the main one?
You know that in early plans of the police headquarters the briefing room was about to be a restaurant
Im just reading the art book and what a cherries am i picking
thanks choom
So the carriers of the vein were about to look like this(go to #šØron-screenshots-and-art )
if something as big as a new america happened irl who would actually be sent in?
i doubt local swat would be sent in
What are good methods to make suspects immediately surrender in an open space with no cover?
Sometimes suspects can endure multiple stun items like gas, Iāve seen it happen with flash bangs and pepper spray
Local tactical units like in this case. The governor would most likely call the National Guard and various federal agency SWAT units would roll in
The reason why LSPD sent a SWAT team in there was because they were running out of time, and the nearest National Guard unit was stuck in the middle of the city amidst the protests, and FISA's tactical response team was at least an hour+ away
They had no choice but to send you in
Thanks
how often will i get shot in the head on hard
is the helmet worth it...
i want my cool hat and sunglasses
drip first always
I like that you can get one shot in the head without a helmet regardless of it making the game a lot harder, you have to be a lot more careful
I also like running kevlar front plates only to amplify that really changes how I play the game
did neon tomb without getting my head blown off Yay
how do you get an "S" rank on missions?
Doing a mission perfectly which includes taking everyone, including suspects all alive
anyone helping with S ranks?
No thanks Iāve done them all for me and I never want to touch a beanbag shotgun again or that rotating flash launcher
bru rotary launcher is the best gun even on lethal
shoot and everyone in the room goes down
or just flash and switch to your pistol and light em up
I just donāt find it fun to use
turns the game into a point and click sim itās boring
Yeah
If you didn't pre order you don't have it on console and I would've love cheating once at least
buying the deluxe edition gives you it
i preordered but i prefer using beanbag because it feels more fun to use
Had to S rank ANA with the fucking pepper ball rifle
i would use the ar if pepperballs didnt suck ass stil
I need to get the devil tatoo as I missed that when doing the alt ending but I just donāt want to play ana at all even with the rotary launcher
ana with the rotary sucks cause theres sooooo many suspects
No need to go non lethal for the devil tatto
you gotta have a full team with it
If you give yourself full steel platings with 10 rotary rounds and either a single mag with the g18-c or a taser the game becomes way too easy
i normally use light steel plating since full coverage is lowk a waste
When I go it, I got E rank, barely made it
Yeah but itās easier with the rotary launcher but I still donāt want to play ANA even with it
WHO needs side armor
True
I like using light with front only kevlar plates
why tf would u use kevlar
More challenging
i mean ig
Why I also run no helmet and only two mags each for my weapons with jhp rounds
at that point just take off armor etnirely
Gotta be careful with how I traverse and shoot itās a really fun build
I think i haven't tried changing the ceramic plates once, is it really a game changer or just placebo?
u play hard or standard
I do want some semblance of protection but not to the point where im superman
Standard
ohh that makes more sense
Never even tried hard and donāt intend to
i only play hard cause i find standard too easy
but its so painful
i s ranked every mission on hard and i NEVER want to go through that again.
Yeah Iāve seen how absolutely awful the ai is on hard
three letter triad is fucking horrible on hard man i hate it
I haven't and even I don't wanna go through that
Thatās the one map I actually dislike
buy cheap buy twice is my least favourite mission in the game but three letter triad just annoys me
trust me you dont. me and my duo started having married couple type arguments bro it was cooked
relapse and carriers of the vine i straight up HATe
relapse on hard mode is so fucking ass
I donāt mind carrier and relapse that much to be honest
fully stressed out suspects on hard = pain
Yeah theyāre annoying but itās manageable to a point
I donāt know about hard though im just speaking about standard
the problem is on hard they have aimbot. relapse neon tomb and elephtant have that same problem
I remember the first time I turned hard by accident on rust belt and I was flabbergasted by the lethality of the suspects, also I was doing the revolver challenge so imagine my pain lol
you gotta be quiet as a mouse
Donāt they also have bomb vests on hard
yeah
son said flabberghasted
also fuck way out west i hate that mission too
It was the first word that come out father
i called it way out west by mistake, the ptsd is still getting to me
that damn achievement bro
Iāve never went for any of the special achievements all Iāve ever done is do Ironman with no officers dead and all s ranks thatās enough for me
Ironman was easy all you do is alt f4 if you fail
im ngl for the first few runs i tried to NOT do that. and then i said fuck it and did it anyway
i died on relapse and that shit ruined me
I knew I wasnāt doing it legitimately so I immediately started using alt f4
turned the ps5 off and just started at my off monitor for like 10 minutes
Only died first time at relapse I believe
alt f4 method is valid ngl that achievement is ass
i hate permadeath
alt f4 method on hdd sucks tho i cant lie
I'm on that point too, one of my guys got killed because he couldn't bother to shot the guy beside him
stuff like this annoys me bruh the swat ai are so dumb
oh void gods please grace us with a swat ai update š
us solo players dont get enough love
The watch doesnāt even look that good
nahh wym its fresh
flexing on the suspects
Eh
its funny how judge has an iced out rolex but lives in a dusty apartment
They sometimes can be reliable, but they will get themselves killed like a hamster, in the most random way you could imagine
on hard mode the swat ai health goes to 200 so i NEVER find them reliable, infact theyre the opposite and die ruining my run
It looks worse when its the only one blocked, I'm just doing for the whole collection atp
its annoying because it forces you to use nutrionist + armorer just so swat dont die on hard
Fair enough
i like the cuffs more than the rolex now tho
I just feel really pretentious using it and the Hawaiian shirt if thatās the right word for it
Damn
I hope they do add more customisation options for things like the ballistic mask and other items that donāt get much customisation
mandible looks so bad i dont even use it
id rather have one less bullet protection then look stupid
It looks alright I never got the vitriolic hate for it
May as well have it if youāre wearing a helmet with no gas mask
it looks so stupid
My current favorite is the one from S ranking ANA, also it kinda looks like mine in real life (mine is a fuckass 25 dollar casio)
Yeah I really like that one
Flair Nite Watch
Yup
I like the red colour on the clock
Also its the only one that glows in the dark
i use a mod that gives me a balaclava on solo, and it looks so good without the mandible
I like how itās a gift from the other lspd members after their suspicions on judge were cleared
Itās nice
I really do hope they add those to solo
its so weird how it isnt in the game in solo mode, like the assets are already there
Yeah, wholesome way of storytelling
just let us switch to echo in commander/quick play
Fr
I like using it and the tattoo from s ranking hide and seek
Me too, did you know that the Roman numbers on the wrist is the date from no good deed (September 3 of 2028)
Never noticed that
I also like how all gods burn and a new america take place on the new day it really shows how disorganised and chaotic los suenos has become that two high importance operations happen in one day
Yeah
I wish some tattos and the whole tatto section of customization gets a rework, would be cool to actually inspect in detail the tattos
I find the order of missions in the base game to be quite funny d platoon goes from thank you come again to neon tomb, relapse and carriers of the vine
Nightmare blunt rotation
True
I wanna do a chronological run with some of my friends who aren't so familiar with the game
Donāt do that to them youāll make them quit 
Going from 4 suspects to 23 in the second mission is gonna be diabolical
greased palms made me quit for a week when I first got the game
Itās 100x less bad now as Iāve sort of learned that map since and Iāve come to really like it
They're gonna be just fine, I was so lucky because I got 4 of them in the game and they enjoyed so its gonna be bonkers
If you say so
try it on hard and your opinion will change very fast
Iām not playing any level on hard
what about the achievement
I do not care for it
I remember going for the customization items after running the missions for the first time, absolut pain in the ass
damn i always go for platinums when i play games
Iām not doing programmed psychosis or that three letter triad one so im not getting everything anyway
i have every achievement in the game other than programmed psychosis and the lethal gas one
actual torture
Damn, I just do them if the achievement its actually interesting for me
I tried programmed psychosis once and got pretty far
Second last floor
its the fact that runs can take an hour and a half really ruins it for me
Also on xbox you get special backgrounds after getting the achievements, so its a nice little reward
im not tryna spend allat just to fail one run at the staircase
That fucking staircase is either a breeze or the trenches
on ps5 all you get is a sense of accomplishment
Damn
Sometimes nobody spawns up there and some other times thereās a whole battalion
everytime like 10 guys haul ass down the stiars and aimbot me
or i get jumped from every room
I got jumped in the room on the left of courtroom once on a multiplayer ANA run and me and this other guy lost right at the end
There's one double door that got me killed because one guy in the stairs one tapped through the glass above the doors, worst part is that glass isn't mean to throw stuff
Actually pissed me off because I never had beaten ANA on multiplayer and the dude that killed me was hiding behind a fucking plant pot
And I was running the build with no helmet and kevlar front only and I was doing good with it only to get one tapped
Happened to me but in the 2nd floor next to the maintenance room
I hate that area next to maintenance room sometimes suspects can spawn hiding in the corners
Them angles get really crazy sometimes
I have a giant love hate relationship with ANA sometimes itās my favourite level in the game and sometimes itās really not
Story and music wise it is though
I love the ascending note when on the last floor
I love it in a strange way, the other day I played again and beat at the first try but I was really bored and wasn't in the mood to ironman
My favourite level overall is probably neon tomb though
That has a special place in my heart
My favorite part is the final courtroom part, its the us hymn but slowed
Really neat considering the lore
Breaching that room for the first time was the most intense exhilarating experience Iāve ever had in ready or not
Fr, the whole music got me pretty immersed through the whole level, kinda feels going from hell to paradise in a sick way with those chorus
I only had two officers left and one died a few seconds after breaching, me and this other officer had to breach on our own and the sounds of nine bangs and gunfire wouldnāt stop going
I was so damn nervous that I put a timer on my watch and played with reversed, like in the game
Iāve had too many players in public lobbies start the jammer as soon as they find it
I genuinely just shoot them dead now if they do that
We were going to lose anyway because of that
ana for the first time was unlike any other mission, so fire
I like splitting them and blowing up C2 in the front and right door, usually at least one suspect gets blown up in the right door
True
why did they leave the cctv unattended?
Yeah I do that now but I had the whole team breach the front door
new update idea: remove ALL swat ai voicelines
I was nervous I wasnāt thinking of strategies anymore just can I get in there and stop the bombs
they are so goddamn annoying
In my way sir
I failed the first time I got to there because I killed the vip suspect in the heat of the moment, I just thought "fuck that particular guy"
You're in my way sir
rip
When I went for the alt ending the bombs didnāt go off and I thought I did something wrong but I just clicked to end mission and it worked
It took me 3 retries or wondering what I did wrong to realise that
Even if the bombs donāt visually go off you still get the alt ending
What's your favorite drink from the coffee machine?
you're in my way, sir.
sometimes they sound so rude for no reason. but ig its because of the stressful situations lol.
guys, the mexican restaurant map changed a little since last time I played it
hostiles are sooooo nervous
i keep failing it
like killing hostages in 50 sec
wtf
yeah dude
like who do they have up there?
i cant tell if my msg just got deleted or if im schizophrenic
it did
wtf why
auto erase, see it. bad wording?
probably said something the server doesnt like
maybe it was
bruhhh
ok it was
well so, I finished the map without going to 2nd level: bad guys just killed ALL civ, then rush me
it has finish with a bunch of corpse just before the stairs
sometimes suspects rush right into me and I cant turn around to shoot them
hunger strike has a weird active shooter timer
Michael killed me like that one time and i used supernova next time
on hard mode it can be like 20-30 seconds
jesssh
s ranking that shi on hard mode took so many triers
and I find elephant hard becuz of it
rust belt sucks, especially that achievement
yeah well. yes. hmmm. yeah actually. but cool for the ambiance
i literally lost 2 of my guys in the span of 30 seconds
elephant on hard has a 2m timer which isnt even enough time to search the entire building..
and without another human its so frustrating
which one was elephant again
the school
university
did you do it onstandard
the last civilian was the worst part
hard
tried on hard with traps everywhere?
nahh either you lying or you got insanely lucky
probably lucky
i have crazy luck
i always gotta slow down because every damn door has a trap
mostly roam corridor yelling, they rush you
yeah i learned that after the mission
and even if i find all teh suspects which is a miracle, i gotta get the stupid bombs
dude the last regular RoN mission was so disturbing ngl
forgot the title
at the docks
actually a cool features. how many hours I spend in SWAT4 with a broken leg (reduced mvt speed) looking for the last evidence or hostage!
hide and seek
close dat fucking door and PROCEED
so i thought i found it and open it mannn my heart dropped
hate to be that guy, but mission was way more disturbign without censorship
only time i saw judge hesitate and show emotion
I love the fucko on radio mimick your usual TOC command
yeah yeah wtv still disturbing
they did a great job on such details
yeah it was cool
the TOC cut off was also insane
cuz i was wondering "i thought this was a joint operation where are the other guys?"
like 2 minutes before that
the map would have deserved a chopper like in DLC
Not to public lobby players
Every door doesnt have a trap for them
When the suspects resist, just mag dump lol
i guess
how low is my health if I hear beep beep
One hp I believe or around that
makes sense, I got shot in the head point blank
Anyone know what the lung icon status effect is when you take some of that toxin damage?
thank god they didn't hit a vital organ
wtf? then why would I get it on greased palms?
it's so funny HSing teammates and they just don't care
i ment in MP sometimes to friends
Idk, i had it when i triggered a trap
oh, that just kills them
where
new america
i tried looking at the wiki, i didn't see anything about lung icon debuff
apparently hard mode is super realism mode because for some reason no armor 9mm does same damage as 762
i can't send images here, so i can't really explain it
are you talking about enemy 9mm? Cause my 9mm did nothing to a guy lol
yes enemy 9mm
my 9mm takes around 4 shots
what do we do on the home invasion missions?
Whatever the objective is?
invade homes
its you not being able to fucking breathe because gas is entering your lungs and it fucking hurts
Is there a way to hotkey my taser? I don't see a specific bind slot for it anywhere unlike pretty much every other tactical in the game. Would be really nice to not have to pull my door wedge out first before my taser every time I need to use it
anyone notice music not as much playing anymore?
I just press 2 twice
2 is secondary for most people
I wish taser was 3 lol š¤£
I miss the old station
If you play in commander mode it goes back to the old station
unless if you mean the old old station
in which case hopefully that mod gets updated
I'm always on commando mode
why does the ready or not official soundtrack feel "incomplete"
Shot people
Bought RoN on steam and then found out there's no cross progression. Rip
Honestly I would use gas grenades more but they take ten days to deploy once thrown
Folk š š š
Just open a door, throw a grenade in, close door, grenade activates, rush in
Also wear a gas mask
takes too long to go off I cannot use them
yeah when I played my guys would always rush in the moment gas went off giving it no time to spread
speaking of, whats the common census on how to play the game? Revert version or mod back old features?
no clue
really miss booting it up and blowing off steam but ever since dark waters I heard performance has just gotten worse
DO u got boiling point?
The performance has been pretty much the same for me after the boiling point update
glad you could to take out 7 minute of ur time :)
Is there a reason my player healthcard doesent show helmet or my ballistic mask anymore?
It got shot off?
no
This happens during a mission?
no
You forgot to put it on i guess.
howdy, does anyone on here have a detailed understanding of how the hitboxes work for the player?
You share the same hitboxes with the NPC. Head, torso, arms and legs.
what the fuck happened to SWAT AI? I thought they sucked before but holy fuck they just stand there content with getting shot
I breach and use launcher and they take 10 seconds to use launcher so they just get shot at and do nothing
Do the different vests provide protection based on the areas they visually cover on the body, for example, offering additional armor if they extend over the arms or groin or is protection handled more generically, like a standard āpaper dollā system in the HUD regardless of the vestās appearance?
Light vest protects front and back. Heavy vest protects front, back and sides of tour torso, your entire limbs remains unprotected.
Crotch area is counts as torso so theyāre also protected.
The SWAT AI is pretty rough right now and really needs fixing. My biggest issue is Blue team responding to Red teamās commands and vice versa... it completely breaks immersion.
Right I get that but is it just a generic area or is it detailed like it EFT?
I donāt know what EFT means but iād say it is generic like that.
yeah, I am wondering if the generic area is as it's shown on the paperdoll in the HUD
Image permā¦
What values
hitpoints
There's only global health
ah okay, lame.
why do suspects aim for limbs so much
Because their accuracy cone is so big they can hit your limb while targeting your head bone
that's crazy
wut
I see the console censorshit extents a bit beyond the game lmfao
that's got me wanting to crash out and get banned from here man, shits genuinly wild
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weird.
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aren't you the nerd from tech support who can't use a pc?
A nerd that learned and now I fixed it
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your computer understand how a monitor works?
Iām superior
oooooo sonnnnn
thats good
My goat aspid saved me
keep the beef going
HOF instigator, use that energy to solo S rank ana
I came across some wild goats on trail once. They ruled.
I might dude haven't had this much fun in a sec
2 games of Rocket League comp Hoops canceled in a row, thats a sign I need to hop on RoN
These suspects arenāt going to tase themselves
Exactly
*hostages
Tryna re-S rank on Steam, everything i already did on Xbox
Im up to The Spider now. Not ready for GP or VotD
to play VOTD for the 900th time or to avoid ANA because the MLO can smell your presence
Shouldāve used non fragranced deodorant
^
Reading the emails in mindjot always cracks me up the middle management in that place sucks booty meat
good lore in the game
I want a 38 special option for the magnum so I can not die when using it as a snubby
How do i delete a mod?
#šØron-screenshots-and-art message
@cedar knot
you have 25 slots you dirty dirty cheater, be ready to get banned
Sucks what
Meat from the human posterior
Green for yes red for no
Should ready or not add mods on console
Donāt you give me the ghost stare
Yes
you're not missing much, their mod.io integration is meh at best. Most pc players I know prefer to use nexus because navigating in game is a nightmare. Since 1.0 the in-game mod browser has hardly gotten better
they show you two tabs, recent and trending. Furthermore each tab will only display like 25 items at most

@cedar knot AP rounds on pepperball launcher.
Does anyone know how to unlock the oath bearer ring? Is it just with the boiling point dlc or do you have to do something to unlock it?
what are the graphics settings you guys run for the best performance?
Medium with good textures i can read things around the map
Any news on 1.4.3?
Turn off flashlights, use iron sights, move like a snail, always behind your guys
ā RoN Tzu circa 9056 AD
literally self reporting bruh
I downloaded a mod off the ingame mod thingy, how do i get rid of it?
Unsubscribe to it, go to your game folder, readyornot, paks and delete the mod.io folder or go inside and delete the mod you dont want
This.
what are currently the most effective assault rifles? tried searching reddit but the posts are mostly outdated
ARN-180.
If youāre wondering which rifle is the meta.
yeah thatās pretty much what Iām asking. Iāve been running the GA416, I think the G36C is popular? idk Iām really out of the loop I just play by myself lol
thank you
G36 and F90 are the best 5.56 rifles due to their laser like stability and recoil.
And 416 is the worst cause of its massive muzzle kick per shot.
I had no idea
what makes the ARN-180 strong?
Low recoil, working suppressor, has option to put muzzle brake and uses .300 blk.
Other .300 blk rifles doesnāt have all of it so theyāre inferior to the ARN.
I see thank you!
Should I use mk17 for greased palms in lethal or should I use something else?
they have no armor so anything works
g36c is very controllable, p90 or mp7 can work
^
Rotary launcher too strong
S ranked Ides of March on hard 1st try
I think that's kind of the idea from the opinion of everyone
And well, hard isn't exactly "fair" since everyone has aimbot and pumped up health so it's kinda the least we can do
Flash rotary launcher + 6 spare 40mm
Pepper ball pistol with no ammo
Flash M320
Heavy armor, full ceramic + ballistic mask
4 flash, 1 taser or pepper spray
All teammates get BB shotgun w 4 mags, PB pistol with no ammo, 6 flashes, 1 wedge
Put on hard. Win. Profit. Weep, for there are no more worlds to conquer
teammates with bb shotgun are risky since they can accidently kill suspects by shooting them in the head
True but I havenāt had that happen to me yet across 40+ hrs of playtime
oh but when it will... it happened to me
imagine that happening in a long mission, that would SUCK
It happens infrequently enough in my play that I, personally, donāt worry about it
User experience may vary
if you say so
Like someone said, every copy of RoN is personalized.
eh. military service has inoculated me against the long stints of tedium and repetition involved in replays
Es lo que es
š
I will pretend to pretend so š š šÆ

I hope the devs take the time to improve the AI in a future update.
Thatās definitely one of the maps to use it on Iād say since thereās not many tight spaces to mess with your barrel length. You get good use of the battle rifles in that one since thereās a good portion of armored targets.
Itās a mod bozo
Literally can find it on the ingame mod selection
mod = not a cheat
lets make me immune to damage, i mean its a mod
???
so im not cheating, make sense
Cheating means hacking donāt it?
no
cheating in a PVE game...
what

Iām confused
modding is part of the game bruh.
I know that, Iām confused on why Iām getting called a cheater/hacker
yes you're right its part of the game
then why is this conversation is even a thing?
No clue

I just posted an image as a joke, with an obviously modded loadout
i mean you asked a question, i gave an answer
Yeah no I get that

Iām just confused on the cheater/hacker assumption
No clue why the other caller called me that
Cheating means hacking,
I think we grew up with different definitions of game cheating
I donāt..
oh well, i guess you dont 
I donāt cuz I donāt cheat..
i mean i can give you an example how cheating is not hacking
lets say someone is streaming a game and you're on the opposite team, so you can look at their stream to see where their teammates are, but you're not hacking
or hell a student cheating on an exam using hidden notes or something, are they hacking?
you sure cheating and hacking are the same thing?
Cheating in video games 90% of the time means hacking
oh so now its 90%?
Even game devs consider cheating meaning hacking
what?????
Yeah
hell nah stop the cap
āCheatingā would be using an unallowed tool for an unfair advantage and using it to oneās own benefit. Since mods are supported in-game,i donāt see any unallowed tools being used. But thats just my book. To be completely honest just let mans play however they want,cant hurt you since its PVE so
Thank you onx
i mean, im just saying facts, at the end of the day just do what you want
.
but dont say false stuff
Iām not? Literally game devs in the past have considered cheating as hacking
in the past? so not in the present?
Dont pummel into it bro just let it go
I just said 90% as a random but rounded/high number of games having considered it
so you mean now they dont consider it?
Yeah, I lwk think he might be doofy from scary movie
Okay bro hes obv ragebatibg thoš
no im not wtf
And you falling for it hard
Hahahhahahaha
im just stating facts what u mean
Oh well, I guess so, Iām such an idiot for falling for it
lets ask you a question @open bison do you think cheating and hacking is the same thing?
Womp womp for me as the kids say these days
im just curious for your OPINION
Goodnight all, itās getting late
hacking is much different from cheating
thank you!
finally someone with a brain
hacking for example would be hacking an automated car and making it do things outside of it's original programming
Cheating differs from hacking definitively,you can see what i said what i think cheating is if you scroll up a but
cheating for example in a video game would be something like aimbot
What iāve been saying
Thats what iām sayin!!
that guy obviously has not played watch dogs in his life




