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[rocky plover]

I'm just saying whatever worked for me and others now you do you

[tacit gull]

the m32 would remove any challenge with it, so yes you can only use thrown flashbangs and the taser

[rocky plover]

I mean there's not really a challenge to it anyways lol since you can give the AI anything and let them carry you lol

[tacit gull]

the challenge is having the ai actually do anything

[rocky plover]

Good point

[hexed oyster]

what ar does the most dmg?

[opaque valve]

All are generally the same. They are just integrated differently in technicality terms. Some shoot faster than other’s, some aim better than others, so on and so forth.

[mystic palm]

Swat ai is retared

[opaque valve]

Depending on the situation your in and the environment in which your located.

[tacit gull]

no they're all basically the same

gun either has big bullet and deals big damage or gun has less recoil than other gun

[opaque valve]

Adaptation is really the key for a good run.

[hexed oyster]

i've been using pdw's but i wanna switch to something more reliable

pdw's recoil is too much and the damage isnt great

i js want a one shot one kill (head) weapon

[jolly verge]

Swap to arn-180

[opaque valve]

PDW’s are essentially for real CQC. You use Hollow Points for non armored enemies and Armor Penetration for the armored ones.

[opaque valve]

Like I said, you just have to adapt to each mission and choose what best suits it.

[tacit gull]

or you just get .300 and it doesn't matter

the mission briefing will not tell you what suspects are wearing and neither will looking at them

have fun guessing why your shots aren't doing anything

[opaque valve]

If you replay the mission(s) you’ll for certain put two and two together

Not every mission has armored suspects and not every mission got non armorers suspects

You got AP’s and Hollow’s for each situation

[tacit gull]

here at void we have the "guess" principle when designing our gameplay scenarios

play the mission multiple times and see what the t-shirt wearing suspects react to

[opaque valve]

If you want a single shot headshot weapon, they all generally do that with the right ammo type. But you’ll have a far greater chance of multiple body shots with a full auto

[hexed oyster]

btw how come my ai teammates become high stress?

i just had my cleanest and best mission yet and they're all stressed

[jolly verge]

You killing every single suspect, right?

[last dawn]

7.62 is best yes

fuck it
rip a triple a battery off the hinges and use it

[hexed oyster]

yeah

[lost inlet]

rifle that uses 7.62x51mm.

[lost inlet]

killing stressed them out.

taking in suspect alive and well does the opposite and keeps them happy.

[final ember]

having one door open at the court room in ANA is just such an evil little twist from the devs bruh

AI cannot keep themselves hidden when breaching omfg

[vast chasm]

better than fucking up the mission because of good ol rushing to my death then putting 3 of them into crisis

while the rest of my team is still recovering

[gray otter]

How useful is the ballistic mask really? i feel like most suspects use stuff better than pistol caliber so a shot in the face should be game over either way

I guess it's a "might aswell" option since gasmask is situational

[bitter mason]

It can take like 2 hits before breaking usually i think

[upper ridge]

Armorer trait helps too

[bitter mason]

Helmet and ballistic mask works the same as ceramic armour if im correct so it absorbs a hit but will break after it takes enough damage
Helmets have the health for usually one hit

[glass heart]

depends on what hit them

[bitter mason]

Yea

[glass heart]

different rounds do different durability damage to armor

[lost inlet]

meta if you're not using gas mask.

free 2 shots from any bullets are always a win. 3 if you have armorer.

[lost inlet]

max durability damage your armor can take is 1 anyway.

[final ember]

its too bad you can't just restart the round instead of getting booted back to the station

otherwise I would love to make use of officer traits

[upper ridge]

That's by design, they want you to live with the consequences

tho the stress system isnt realistic

it shouldn't be a thing, SWAT are adrenaline junkies

and they know what they're getting into

the only excuse is that the LSPD are understaffed and overworked

[final ember]

they can do that gladly if they let me restart

certain officer got stressed? alright just get on with it

dont break it down for me 5 minutes and kick me back to station

[upper ridge]

You can just ALT + F4 as soon as you want to restart

I mean, to avoid stress or an officer dying

[final ember]

thats what ive been doing but certain missions proved...challenging
too often to do this over and over lolo

[upper ridge]

What if one dies though?

or leaves due to stress

[final ember]

let me manage my team right at the end game screen

if adjustments need to be made

[upper ridge]

Fair idea, yeah

[lost inlet]

replaying S rank gas station will always solves all mental problem for SWAT bots.

[final ember]

their mental health gets better from mission? (provided nothing happened to add to the stress)

[lost inlet]

it'll only gets better if you takes in more people alive.

[final ember]

im aware of that

I meant that I wasnt aware that their mental health can improve while on operations

[lost inlet]

hmm then i'm not sure if their stress does actually go down by itself or not.

[final ember]

it doesnt

killing or incapping suspects does

among other things

[lost inlet]

grammar fixed.

[final ember]

fairly sure it does
I dont think arresting people helps you get better lol, at best it simply doesn't bother you since no one got hurt

[lost inlet]

except it does helps swat bots's stress going down.

[final ember]

yes because time passed
time passes by doing a mission

[lost inlet]

there's a trait called moral officer which increases the morale point giving from arresting suspect.

[final ember]

mental health gets and update at the end of every mission

[lost inlet]

no, staying in the mission for long time doesn't improves their mental health.

that's just wrong.

[final ember]

true
although I always thought it meant more like that it protects the teams health better rather than increasing it

like, maybe you can kill one or 2 more guys before it starts affecting them

[final ember]

thats not what I meant

every mission completion is time passed is what I meant to say

[lost inlet]

you have S.B.A.G.S trait for that.

[final ember]

oh yeah thats true

[gray otter]

Has anyone else but me experienced unlocking the Developer's Ruined Watch but not the two Ironman Mode Achievements? (The World and The Hermit)

[tacit gull]

sbags and moral officer are basically useless

essentially if you arrest about 3 suspects every mission you will never have stress go down (up rather)

unless its elephant which has a forced decrease

[lost inlet]

so maps has 10 suspects, arresting 3 while incapping 7 other will never have swat's stress going negative?

[marble lance]

Anyone know what cheese loud out for everyone is for hide and seek on hard. Getting sick and tired of restarting

[tacit gull]

Atleast from experience yeah

[lost inlet]

interesting.

[tacit gull]

genuienly just use your flashbangs and it won't be a mechanic

if you know what you're doing just get 1 taser slot

[glass heart]

incap doesnt touch stress iirc

only actual fatalities do

[final leaf]

The new america stairs actually make me want to eat a stinger

it literally feels like RNG at this point, like every other part of the level is fine then i get there

[tacit gull]

incaps and deaths are functionally identical

[lost inlet]

it still does.

[glass heart]

i know but do incaps matter for officer stress or not

i was under the impression they did not

[tacit gull]

yes, they're the same as deaths

[glass heart]

lmfao

[lost inlet]

only time they're different when it's about HVT.

[glass heart]

guess deadchecking people didnt actually hurt their morale then, good to know

[tacit gull]

unless its an hvt dont even bother with incaps lmao

its genuienly just not a thing

[glass heart]

thats already what i do

and i still shoot hvt, just more sparingly

instead of 7-10 they only catch 2-3

ive already basically done everything there is to do w commander so stress doesnt rlly matter

[tacit gull]

stress especially doesn't matter because you shouldn't be playing commander

[glass heart]

even better: you shouldnt be playing with swat ai

[tacit gull]

you shouldn't be playing at all but here we are

[glass heart]

how to enjoy ron:
dont

[lost inlet]

refund.

or uninstall.

[tacit gull]

how to enjoy ron:
play 3 maps
wait 8 months because the gameplay isn't interesting enough to keep you playing
play 3 maps

[glass heart]

its still okay enough for doing cqb with friends and getting the power fantasy of killing people with no consequences but thats about it xd

[lost inlet]

man, i missed mindless horde mod back in early access.

10x the suspects count but they misses pretty much all of their shot.

[hardy marlin]

whats the best caliber of rifle?

[lost inlet]

.300 blk.

[final leaf]

What deployables actually work on new america?

[lost inlet]

by deployable, you mean anything that is not your guns?

[final leaf]

Anything that i can use to MAYBE stun something so i dont get absolutely blasted from every possible nook and cranny as soon as i go up those stupid spiral stairs

[lost inlet]

all except for gas.

they're immune to gas.

[final leaf]

I have been trying to use 9 bangs but they dont seem to work unless it lands super close to the guy

[hardy marlin]

arn or dm4pdw?

[lost inlet]

yep.

[hardy marlin]

im asking which is better

[lost inlet]

yeah, cause 9 bangs has blast radius of 5 meters.

[lost inlet]

they both uses the same caliber so it's up to preferences but i prefer ARN-180.

[winter pendant]

ARN-180 has less recoil (void is lying) but the PDW has less reticle drag

I also prefer ARN-180 myself, feel like followup shots tend to be more important than a snappy reticle

[lost inlet]

drag doesn't means much when you're pre-aiming most of the time.

wait no.

i was thinking of ADS speed.

whatever, they both don't matters much anyway.

[dusty ravine]

Between the g3 and the mk17, is the g3s length restrictive enough to merit taking the mk17?

[winter pendant]

Shrug. I'd check the reload times? I bet the mk17 is faster on an empty mag

[last dawn]

you ever get domed straight after the cctv doors

[winter pendant]

Only on hard

[dusty ravine]

Gotcha, thanks

[final leaf]

Yes but 99/100 times its either outside the fucking death spiral or just above it

you know, when theres like no cover and its a giant room where enemies can see you from a million miles away

[marble lance]

Wow two crashes so far on same map.

[marble lance]

I see the ai is brain dead still

[jagged quartz]

Just with grenades tbf. Otherwise it's in a fairly ok state compared to what it has been in the past

[ivory geyser]

I was about to s rank relapse but some fucker came out of nowhere and one tapped my team

[mystic palm]

Same for ANA

[ivory geyser]

John wick ai bullshit

[vale plume]

I know they’re like John , Hard and normal are like robocop

[naive marsh]

S ranked valley of dolls, hide and seek, 23 mb per second

Ez

[marble lance]

Can you not just get everyone with flash grenades and just spam them all?

[tacit gull]

yes

[marble lance]

On hide and seek?

Grenade launcher I mean

[tacit gull]

yes

[icy crown]

Been stuck 6hrs on new america trying to s rank it

[distant rose]

which one is that again?

[icy crown]

Boiling point dlc last mission

[distant rose]

ah. haven't got the dlc. heard its hard af tho

[icy crown]

Just the team Ai is really silly at times

[mystic palm]

It is

[lost inlet]

no.

the drag and recoil is utter insane on mk17. And length of the gun can be negated if you know how to position well.

so G3 still remains one of the best 7.62x51mm rifle.

and mk17 down near the bottom of the category.

[tacit gull]

i think the mk17 is straight up THE bottom battle rifle

[lost inlet]

i'd place m14 at the bottom of the barrel instead.

[tacit gull]

it's massive, it shoots into the ceiling, it has negative aura from the extended rail

[lost inlet]

no grip and no muzzle brake device.

[tacit gull]

the s14's recoil isnt nearly as bad

[lost inlet]

it's floaty, it's weird to me.

[tacit gull]

it does have the animation timing fucked so it is really slow to put away

[rocky rover]

devs had to do this cuz the mk17 is dope, powerfull, good looking, strikes hard

others rifles jealous

[distant rose]

imo, G3A3 best battle rifle

[lost inlet]

that's what i'm talking.

[dusty ravine]

Thanks for the input, the g3 and scar are such great looking rifles. G3 feels looks really long to the point of being very impractical in cqb but I suppose that rarely makes a big difference in this game

[vale hare]

two questions

First question, is it at all possible to alter the names of my officers in commander mode through changing the files (just wonderin)

secondly, are 9-bangs considered flashbangs for the sake of the hide and seek achievement?

[hollow finch]

no

[vale hare]

gotcha

thanks

[tired jungle]

You wouldn't wanna use them outside anyway

[woven obsidian]

Why friendly Ai is like a normal criminal and suspect john wick with a little bit of navy seals?😂

They die so fast without shooting back

[stable remnant]

Anyone know, why RoN DLC soundtrack isn't on spotify?

Or just I'm blind?

[rotund saddle]

Of the MP5s which gun would you guys say is best

[stable remnant]

for me A2

[rotund saddle]

Im gonna give the 10mm a go

[rocky rover]

never tried the 10mm, just stucked in bad memories about it becuz of fallout games

pretty sure it could do the job, at least for first missions

[wooden lintel]

It's there, but i think without new dlc tracks

Oh you meant dlc sorry

[stable remnant]

yea

[tacit gull]

Not released yet

[stable remnant]

yes?! even dark waters, home invasion?

[rotund saddle]

what would you suggest?

[rocky rover]

spare it for "weak" shooters like with no or little armor

for the rest, I used to play mainly mk17 cuz I loveit, and the mp7 cuz I love it too

since here in the discord, talking with others made me take alook on others rifles like .300

my suggestion is easy: dont take in account public answer to "what is the best rifle" but make some test, have fun, find your favorite, it will be quite useless for other missions

[rotund saddle]

fair fair are any of the MP5s

[gentle python]

A2 for the retro drip

[distant rose]

9mm in general aint that great against armour

[rotund saddle]

yea true

[sweet fractal]

good for suspects that are unarmoured/dont have armour with 9mm JHP

[distant rose]

yep. defo

[peak briar]

I use the GA51 it’s a monster of a weapon compact and it uses a similar platform while also firing 7.62

[wooden lintel]

Anyone lagging today ?

[rocky rover]

what do u mean same platform?

[rotund saddle]

I use the g3a3 because larp IM TRYING TO FIND LAST CIV ON LAWMAKER AND ROOM HELP

can they spawn outside

[peak briar]

So basically the GA51 And the Mp5 function with the same roller system and firing mechanism accept someone thought hey let’s convert a MP5 and make it fire 7.62X51

[rocky rover]

I am really interested in that intel. Hope I willfindadd info likefrom manufacturer

thanksbuddy!

[peak briar]

Oh I got you so the real version of the gun is called the HK51 I am actually looking at buying one right now

[compact isle]

What do you guys think is the best gun

[peak briar]

It’s one hell of a weapon considering the MP5s base is one amazing firearm already

[peak briar]

I wish I could help but I need a bit more experience on that pain of a map to tell you exact accurate information

[rotund saddle]

cameras LMAO

[peak briar]

Well all of them are good but it depends on the purpose, so my question for you is what is your playstyle

[compact isle]

I like going very tactical

[rocky rover]

internet says the HK51 is a short version of the G3 so I feel lost now, but actually great

[compact isle]

Auto correct 😭

[rocky rover]

nah, dont correct that fwend ❤️

[peak briar]

Hmm well how high do you want your kill ratio to be and are you concerned with over penetration?

[compact isle]

Little concerned with penetration and I like arresting suspects not killing

[peak briar]

Correct it is technically but borrows from the MP5

[north hamlet]

Is there any way to stop my free lean from resetting after every shot I’m peeking?

[rocky rover]

using F90 ?

[rocky rover]

yeah I see the handle design

[peak briar]

So actually I would lean towards using something with a lower mortality rate such as the MP5 or I mean if you want complete less lethal even the bean bag shotgun is a fun option

But for tactical sake mp5s

The SD is one cool weapon too.

[north hamlet]

Notice it with multiple guns but this one too yes

[rocky rover]

there is a know bug some kindrestrictive: using the F90 (sometimes P90) and free leaning to right. Talked about that few days ago.

[north hamlet]

Very annoying having it instantly reset my lean and flick back to where it was before

[rocky rover]

can we assume you're not stressed on the key (or gamepad) each time?

have a friend spending the map with side looking (and so running so slow) because he kept the pad too tight

[north hamlet]

No issues with the controller if that’s what you mean - it’s doing same with tac shield & G18-C combo too

[rocky rover]

pretty annoying

@woven obsidian bro, set up agroup for your bug report newsletter!

[rocky rover]

I talked about that bug with member jonjon. he said he mailed dev since a year but have no satsfying answer about it, but encoutner the bug mainly with F90

[north hamlet]

It’s easy enough to just use different guns but I like running both F90/P90 so it’d be nice to see fixed eventually

[rocky rover]

yeah I am glad to not see anymore bullets stucked in the air but I would rather have thoses bugs cleared

[lean gate]

Does my team hate me? 😭 everytime i die their status goes up

[sonic sleet]

I still wanna know how tf the suspects across the map on Ana hear a suppressed gunshot at the start of the map

Oh right they’re just inhuman wall banging one tapping losers

[floral peak]

Me and metal get there usually in 3-4 attempts on hard

We even got A+ on hard here

Because I died to suspect that tanked 4 flashes

[sonic sleet]

I got hard s tier I’m just going for programmed psychosis now

[low agate]

I'm gonna mentally torture myself and try to do programmed psychosis in vr at some point

[peak briar]

RNG I guess and maybe VATS with there luck stats maxed

[opaque zealot]

I wish they added different colors or camo for the fingerless gloves

[peak briar]

Ok so this is bugging me will we ever get ballistic face shields?

[wild atlas]

Why tf is the last mission of boiling point is so hard

The ai pisses me off

Like why do they even shoot trough the concrete walls

[latent glade]

yo did the beanbag get nerfed?

had to shoot a suspect at point blank 4 TIMES to down them

[formal flume]

If you speedrun it, I want to see the video

[lost inlet]

A3.

[lost inlet]

No. Unless you’re playing on hard.

[lost inlet]

It has the same damage profile of .45 ACP. So you’re essentially using the UMP 45 but with more recoil.

[opaque zealot]

Am on the last mission on ironman mode

[lost inlet]

Glhf.

[latent glade]

nah playing on standard

also the game's ai is still fucking broken, am on 23 megabytes and my team just got sprayed in a door way by a dumbass opp

trying to S rank the mission and couldn't because one of my guys is dead

or incapacitated at least , will find out at the end of the mission

[iron willow]

Hot take, All Gods Burn is a way better mission name for ANA than ANA

I feel like ANA and AGB's names should be swapped

[umbral niche]

Bank level is weirdly named to me. It's a bit too symbolic versus what actually happens.

I think whole chain of events of the city rioting doesn't make full sense. Happens way too quickly over something awkward. For example it would make way more sense for the city to be so upset if say Voll goes to trial and gets found innocent because of the city's corruption.

That's a better catalyst if you ask me.

[opaque zealot]

I did it but didn't give me the world trophie

I have a ps5 also nvm

Do I have to complete the los suenos stories to get the tophie or?

I guess the trophy is bugged because I got the gold watch

[stone goblet]

Add sniper missions how y'all feel about that

[opaque zealot]

Kinda mid tbh

[balmy patio]

U tryna get programmed psychosis?

[harsh inlet]

Don’t you love having a watch and tattoo that you can’t see bc your FOV and weapon FOV just blocks it out of your screen boundary lol

[opaque zealot]

Lol true

[harsh inlet]

There’s IR trip wires on doorways, hallways, that alert the ai to your position.

[balmy patio]

@crude prism yo i got a question if you don't mind

So we know about the ceramic damage reduction but does it apply to friendly fire too? Or would friendly fire ignore said damage reduction

Or i guess it would come down to caliber

(since the damage cap doesnt apply to friendly fire, you get one shot even with full steel by a buckshot) however with 100% DR maybe you survive?

[gusty marten]

Hunger strike reminded me I'm not good at shit

[night jewel]

"PLEASE STOP SHOOTING AT THE CIVILIAN!!" mission

[crude prism]

Friendly fire damage does not have the damage-cap that limits the maximum damage received from an AI source.

You can indeed 1 tap other players depending on caliber/zone/armor/etc.

A point blank buckshot shell from another player on steel would only deal 43.2 damage total.

8 pellets * 40 dmg = 320 dmg
320 dmg * 0.135 steel mult = 43.2 dmg

With ceramic you could tank 4 point blank shots (because a buckshot shell deals a total of 1 durability between all 8 pellets)

The 5th shot would kill you even with the 40% reduction

[gusty marten]

Can i just genuinely kill everyone im fucking sick of restarting

[quasi coral]

I will be for eel, a sniper mechanic would be fun and great but sniper missions are too niche

[night jewel]

Wanna head something funny? This is what I do if my Squad fcked up or all killed lmao. Playing with Friend is indeed fun

[gusty marten]

I don't have any friends

[night jewel]

:<

Sorry....

[balmy patio]

Could you realistically get very lucky and get shot on all plates to achieve similar survivability as steel?

I believe there is 0 reason to not run full ceramic right

Aside of the slots ofc, the movement buff is too little and u cant metagame it with one front plate like steel

[crude prism]

Legitimately unless you're a gamer(TM) full-coverage should be the baseline always.

In theory you could get like 12 hits and zero damage but that requires you to get flanked and hit in the back and sides ONLY 4 times each.

[balmy patio]

I thought u did not recommend heavy full steel 😭

But my loadout has been light front back steel to

I really need those slots and the back part is nice for pubs since they love friendly fire even to you flash your light at them 4000 times

[crude prism]

"once you get more comfortable in the game" = gamer mode where you know all the maps and never get flanked

[balmy patio]

I forgot does heavy full steel also cover the shoulders and sides too

That sounds like a living tank even on MP traitless

Although you would be so slow u wouldnt be able to get back into cover to heal up so you would end up just trading more hits

[lost inlet]

Your shoulders are still exposed.

[crude prism]

Just torso ye, arms/legs are always unarmored

[lost inlet]

Didn’t know your crotch are considered part of the torso as well.

[crude prism]

Yeah the torso hitboxes run a little low, but not all the way around your thighs, so it indeed is like a V shape where the leg zones are higher on the side

[harsh saffron]

thats so sad LuL

[chrome vault]

Anyone have advice for meldonin achievement?

[woven obsidian]

I was able to contact Void yesterday, and they finally replied saying they are aware of the bug and that it is currently being investigated by their QA team.

I just hope they fix it, since this bug has been present for over a year.

[lost inlet]

I noticed that the suspects has their own hands and feet hitboxes in the document. Do they follows the same limb multipliers?

[crude prism]

Hand counts as arm now (didn't used to) but foot is still a separate hitbox with 0.1x multiplier for all ammo types. (spare .50AE)

Irrelevant

[elfin flame]

kinda annoyed that the paperdoll has the arms "armored" when you're wearing heavy armor when they're not actually affected, but I guess it's a good visual indicator that you're actually wearing heavy armor

[lost inlet]

Does your bullets hitting suspects’s arms, penetrating it, re-enters their torso and deals another instance of damage?

[crude prism]

Surely one day they'll just implement an F/B/S plate indicator instead of having it be super unclear how the doll works

[lost inlet]

But lower damage based on terrain penetration damage formula or limb damage multipliers?

[crude prism]

Yes, this is possible, but flesh is very(TM) resistant to bullets so you won't really get collaterals with JHP rounds and AP rounds don't do much(TM) damage on limbs for collats.

Damage is entirely based on % of penetration remaining on hit.

So if you had a 100 pen bullet that dealt 100 damage, and it lost 50 pen shooting through a piece of plywood, it would have 50 pen left and thus deal 50 damage on the next thing hit.

[woven obsidian]

Sorry guys

We should encourage anyone experiencing the F90 free lean bug to speak up.

It affects everyone, and unless more people report it, it might just stay this way.

[lost inlet]

So AP 7.62x51mm is like the one case where this is possible and viable?

[woven obsidian]

If anyone is playing Ready or Not right now,
equip the F90, even without attachments.

Try using the right-side free lean and start firing.

You’ll notice the bug.

On both PC and Console

[lost inlet]

I tested it yesterday and i had it occurs but not that serious. I did get pulled back but not all the way back to normal stance.

[crude prism]

Possible yeah, no you shouldn't aim for arms to try and get collats.

[lost inlet]

It’s for people aiming for the head but the barrel is at arm’s length instead. So when they shoots, the bullet hits the arm instead of the head or torso.

[woven obsidian]

Try using the F90 on hard mode and have this issues while free leaning and shoot
You are forced to change weapon
The point here is that you should be to use Every weapon in a game you payed for
And this bug is present since last year maybe more
😕

[lost inlet]

Suspect’s arms is raised to upper torso level when they have their guns up afterall.

[ocean steeple]

coastal grove is actually gonna make me go insane

[golden trellis]

how?

[unkempt granite]

i just s ranked every mission on hard

except boiling point of course but tbh i haven't even touched that dlc yet

[fiery vortex]

The MLO are the best AI because they behave like they will do anything to jump you

Prepare for AI counter breaching, hyper aggression, immunity to gas or flashes, heavy armor and rifles

Oh and uhhhh it feels as if they can temporarily deny death to get shots at you, so have fun

[unkempt granite]

immunity to flashes???

bro how am i even gonna s rank boiling point 💔

[fiery vortex]

I am unsure but I believe it’s on the bank mission for flashes and gas for the final

[fiery vortex]

Get a team with beanbags and never leave eachother, the ai will genuinely just hunt your team down

They are pretty much always patrolling with large detection radius, they can snipe you from windows while sitting at a high up angle on stairs through open doors

They got that shit on lock and key

[fiery vortex]

9 bangs.

It should be consistent enough to stun

[unkempt granite]

i guess i could run like 2 charges of beanbag + 9 9 bangs

since launchers seem useless

[fiery vortex]

They pretty much are

See if you can get a team to run more 9 bangs, make sure to run gas mask

MLO use gas traps and sensors that can only be seen with night vision

[unkempt granite]

bro

atp i should just play r6 💔

what's next? do i have to arrest some dude that it's at the very end and if i kill them the mission fails?

[lost inlet]

They’re only immunes to gas, not flashbang.

[fiery vortex]

Honestly r6 as a new player same vibe

Did you just spawn?

My brother in Christ bandit has the nastiest comp 1 tap

[fiery vortex]

So about that.

If you do a very specific set of things and look at him he fucking explodes

Not the way you think but he explodes all right

[unkempt granite]

why isn't kill me triggering

i've killed like 3 civs

[fiery vortex]

They were terrorists just keep shooting ig

[lost inlet]

You need to tell them to get their knees, have your swat bots be somewhere else far away then kill the said civi.

Suspects works too, same setup.

[unkempt granite]

still nothing

[rich plank]

Launchers are OP wha

Flash launcher can clear a whole room in one shot 💔

[unkempt granite]

i mean yeah but apparently stuns doesn't work neither gas on MLO so

[rich plank]

Really? I'll need to test

[unkempt granite]

wait

does it show on the popup menu

or just the quick order

[fiery vortex]

MLO are immune to gas as they all have masks iirc, flash was me being unsure since the MLO are built different

All of them have level 4 armor so you can’t run 5.56 or a PDW/shotgun. AK, .300BLK or any battle rifle is a necessity all on AP if you wanna survive not do an s rank

It’s genuinely better to take the penalty than hope he’s down from shooting him

[rich plank]

I can't lie I don't like using gas on any mission

Flashes are just too good

[rich plank]

I was doing pretty decent with the G36C, AUG and the MP7 on normal

[fiery vortex]

9 bangs especially, but gas is useful as iirc it behaves as a way to reduce LOS

So it kinda does smoke work.

[fiery vortex]

Yeah but it’s on normal I peeked a corner and he exited behind a printer and headshot me immediately.

[rich plank]

I also don't particularly like 9 bangs, they detonate too fast I like being able to bounce my frags off the doors and walls

[fiery vortex]

On hard too they are cracked

[lost inlet]

Tied them up i guess.

[fiery vortex]

Thing is those weapons have less recoil and faster ROF, you end up hitting more shoots which does the job

[lost inlet]

Flashbang still works…

[fiery vortex]

You can afford to full auto burst them, I am mainly relying on coordinated solo pushes where we hit multiple angles

[rich plank]

Just gotta be extremely careful and learn the spawns tbh, 556 is fine as long as you can hit small bursts to the chest or get solid hits to the face

[unkempt granite]

yeah still nothing

[fiery vortex]

I have to run an SA58 so I can push them to try and surrender.

[unkempt granite]

i'll just do whatever other achievement i can

[fiery vortex]

Yeah it’s just hard to get used to when you are paranoid they can be anywhere and when they actively roam and counter breach you

[rich plank]

The AK is fun but at that point just use a battle rifle tbh

[fiery vortex]

It’s worse than a .300 BLK in all but material penetration.

[rich plank]

The breaching is actually the perfect opportunity for you, they'll shout when they're breaching and if you avoid the flash it's the perfect window to blast them

[fiery vortex]

You just use an AK for the love of the game

[fiery vortex]

Yeah so about that I have a battle rifle so I just fucking shoot the door and that works

[lost inlet]

Bruh. You sure you cuffed the civi up while they are still alive and shot them dead?

[rich plank]

I used to glaze the AK so much before I started to use stuff like the FAL

[high stump]

im kinda confussed, ive been using the RTWC since the beginning of my playthrough and im just now branching up

why is the 6.5 battle rifle much easier to control than everything else?

[fiery vortex]

Long gun it’s probably getting caught

[rich plank]

Fair, using the mirror gun and shooting through doors is a very good strategy

[high stump]

oh i just dropped in here randomly i have nothing to do with the previous conversation

im just wondering if i was just born to use the RTWC or the gun balance is fucky

[fiery vortex]

Measurements. 7.62 nato is far larger than 6.5 creedmore. It has more powder and a larger size meaning it’ll have a nastier kick

It’s trading potential to kill for precision and reduced recoil

[rich plank]

I haven't used it much so I couldn't tell you honestly

[fiery vortex]

No no I open the door and have my teammates posted outside with 2 battle rifles aiming at their likely locations.

[high stump]

i dont mean other battle rifles, i tried a 416 and an arn 180 so maybe my sample size isn't big enough

[fiery vortex]

Sometimes it’s me and if they are about to breach I wait for the slight light from the door open and just execute

[high stump]

but i fire semi auto with those and my aim goes into the stratosphere, i shoot just as fast with the RTWC and the aim stays rock steady

is the RTWC a newer gun by any chance?

[lost inlet]

It’s the newly added gun.

[rich plank]

Ah, I just mirror and full auto through the door

[fiery vortex]

I assume it’s due to the fact that it has probably the longest barrel ingame? Less gas comes out the muzzle as recoil

[high stump]

ah so it is just op then. good for me i guess i love the thing lol

[fiery vortex]

The strongest enemies when a dumb swat officer just mag dumps him with a battle rifle on full auto

[rich plank]

Yee, alongside the full auto glock and the 9mm 1911

[fiery vortex]

It’s great. Sfmb muzzle break, vertical grip and the 1-4x scope you get like 60-70% less vertical recoil

[rich plank]

Though if you use 9mm you better enjoy tickling your suspects

[fiery vortex]

Literally a game changer because it makes full auto even more viable when you have smg level recoil

[fiery vortex]

ATP just use JHP why would someone willingly shoot a level 4 with 9mm

[lost inlet]

Barrel length plays nothing in how much recoil the gun has.

[rich plank]

Be a real man and use the grizzly with the doo doo laser sight that blocks your irons

[rich plank]

Actually it does, same with weight

[lost inlet]

Shooting at limbs with jhp is still a thing.

[rich plank]

Heavier longer guns typically will have less recoil

[fiery vortex]

Not the best with guns so mb

[fiery vortex]

Nah I mean it assuming you see a guy think he can penetrate chest l4 with 9mm.

[lost inlet]

Still no. GA51, G36 and ARN-180 are prime example for that.

[fiery vortex]

Doesn’t the scar serve as the heaviest weapon in the game

[lost inlet]

Short barrel but low to laser level of recoil.

[fiery vortex]

Pretty sure it has the second most battle rifle recoil behind the m14

[rich plank]

Eh, it's the same bullet as the other battle rifles outside the new one

[lost inlet]

It is.

And it kicked the hardest among the 7.62x51 rifles.

[fiery vortex]

Yeah but when you shoor the gun the recoil is harder to control despite iirc being lesser than the 58 and two g’s

[rich plank]

The scar H is a full sized battle rifle, 7.62 NATO is a beefy round not designed for auto fire tbf

[fiery vortex]

Per shot scar, full auto m14?

[lost inlet]

So bo, barrel length doesn’t means except making it harder for you to use when you’re hugging the wall.

[rich plank]

Also it is a game TBF not real life

In game the factors for recoil are just dependant on the gun itself as far as I'm aware

[lost inlet]

M14 has floaty recoil but barely inches away from the controllable circle.

Still better than MK17 imo.

[rich plank]

In fact there's almost no guns with horizontal recoil

[fiery vortex]

Nah I mean it cause of it having the highest ROF iirc making its full auto very difficult

[lost inlet]

Why would you use battle rifle in full auto?

You’re just wasting ammo and sacrificing your aim just to control that thing.

[rich plank]

And all guns are hit scan so velocity is useless

And accuracy only works on shotguns

[lost inlet]

^

[rich plank]

It's not too bad if you do short bursts tbh

I'll sometimes fire a quick four five rounds through doors if I'm quickly trying to drop a guy who doesn't know I'm there

[lost inlet]

Only guns that has travel time for their projectile are less lethal and nade launcher.

[rich plank]

Yessir

[lost inlet]

But they travels so fast, it became irrelevant in a CQB distance.

[fiery vortex]

Not just making note that it has the most full auto recoil

I still do semi auto because I don’t risk missing

[lost inlet]

Kinda unnecessary to bringthat up.

[rich plank]

Kinda wish we could use the launchers as lethal weapons by firing the grenades into their face, it would absolutely kill them

Just firing a big slug at that point lmao

[lost inlet]

Funny thing is, when nade launchers first got added, they can instakill anyone with a direct hit.

And it didn’t exploded on contact so it could bounces around, even back to you and instakill you.

[rich plank]

Ive seen a few guys test under barrel launchers against ballistic dummies and it damn near ripped through them

Nasty stuff

[ivory geyser]

Mgl is so inconsistent

If the guy is running he is not gonna get stunned

[rich plank]

I love the MGL 💔

[lost inlet]

I mean, it’s 40x46mm of pure metal.

[rich plank]

It has so much aura

No sights run just a laser, absolute cinema

[high stump]

is that lady on narcos scripted to kick the fucking door down when you approach?

shes lucky i flinched so hard i missed lmao

[lost inlet]

Obviously, dev had to change it to detonate upon contact and remove the instakill. It was literally a dice roll on old 40mm whether it’d kills you or not.

[rich plank]

I don't think so I've had a few runs where the only doors being kicked were by me

[rich plank]

Sounds fun tbh, MGL roulette

[high stump]

really? i just it for when i want to s rank and its kind of laughably overpowered

its pretty much better than just using a gun, aim and shoot and boom, stunned

[ivory geyser]

Doesn't the grenades have distance they have to reach to explode

[ivory geyser]

I tried it in relapse and it sucked

[visual mortar]

M60 for swat when

[lost inlet]

I don’t know about old 40mm but that isn’t a thing now.

Probably yes if i have to guess.

[ivory geyser]

Lost all my swat officers in commander mode

[lost inlet]

Rip.

Alt+F4.

[ivory geyser]

Although i beaten it

[rich plank]

I'm pretty sure they just explode on contact

[high stump]

man im working through home invassion right now and these levels are great stuff

hope all the dlc keeps it this good or better

[lost inlet]

It’s now.

Back then, it wasn’t.

[rich plank]

Yeee

[golden trellis]

can i get the targeted manipulation achievement on any difficulty? or does it have to be standard or hard?

[high stump]

uh, so does unsubscribing to mods via ingame menu not actually uninstall them?

[rich plank]

The dlcs only get better if you ask me

Home invasion was good, dark waters was great and boiling point is amazing

[lost inlet]

Just manually remove them from your pak folder.

[golden trellis]

also why can i not see the targeted manipulation achievement, it shows me "1 hidden achievment remaining"

[high stump]

lol i installed the mod manager menu so i could see the old hqs and turns out that has seperate save data or some shit so i lost the progress i just made on dorms and narcos

god this game has a lot of weird tomfuckery like that

[lost inlet]

Easy come, easy go.

[balmy patio]

trying to hit those dudes outside greased palms with the beanbag 😢

[lost inlet]

use nade launcher.

[balmy patio]

u aim for the head and it still drops flat on the ground 😭

[lost inlet]

why would you aim for the head with the bean bag?

it instakill them.

[balmy patio]

so that the drop off will hit em in the chest

the beanbag is so slow that you have to lead its shots at that range

realistically thats where the pepperball AR would come in with its faster projectile

but then yknow its hard mode so they take 6 balls to get stunned

so its damn near useless without getting tapped in every encounter

[lost inlet]

bean gas has drop off?

[lost inlet]

just don't use pepperballs.

at least use it with pacifier.

[balmy patio]

beanbag drops off really hard at mid range so you can lowkey get away with aiming at neck or head and let it land on the chest

[balmy patio]

it lowkey wouldnt even be that bad if they kept the standard 3 ball stun

but for some reason they felt that it would be an awesome idea to double the damn hits required to stun

while the beanbag got no real changes on its breakpoints

even to everyone was already running the beanbag

[lost inlet]

RoN on hard is hard just for the sake of being hard.

it's basically standard but you sweat harder.

[rocky plover]

Keep trying until it unlocks lol - in bank vault area of 2nd map

[fiery vortex]

The MLO make normal into hard for me, fuck they are good but relentless

[shut ocean]

i loveprogrammed psychosis

[final leaf]

In New America anyone got any tips for the top floor spiral stairs? ive jammed off everything at the base so the only direction they could come from is those stairs but previous experiences have shown that i will likely get farked pushing the stairs

does purposely triggering the fire alarm work to draw them down?

[shut ocean]

just dont enter it and enter through the main door instead use the secret door or the other door behind the stairs, blocking it off if you want then when you go up the stair either spam flash or run quickly to cover

[rocky plover]

He said top of spiral stairs so 22nd floor not 21st floor

[rocky plover]

Sometimes quickly showing yourself and hiding again makes them come to you but it doesn't always work, could also try flashlight bait but again not always works

Gotta take that part very slowly because it's easy to get killed by a guy hiding behind an obstacle

[final leaf]

Yeah i keep getting screwed because the door to the courthouse is open and it causes the triggerman to see me and i fail the bomb disabling obj

But this has been the first time ive actually made it to the court room so ill take that for now

[rocky rover]

classic "dear customer please leave" answer but there is hope!

[rocky plover]

If the doors are open towards you, you can actually get away with closing them but be careful of other suspects, but if it's opened to the inside it's far worse and you just have to clear what you can without making the VIP see you, then go for jammer and clear the rest but I suggest clearing the 2 metal side doors before as well

The 22nd floor itself is worse than the actual courtroom though so if you've reached the courtroom that's already a bonus

[final leaf]

Yeah that was the first time ive ever reached the courtroom, previously id either die on the stairs or the huge room beforehand

[rocky plover]

Yea the top of the stairs is the worst part

[final leaf]

i got lucky and all of the suspects in the big room were standing around the stairs so they got flashed

[rocky plover]

Yea it's a truly rng fest

Worst part is when they are deep left and deep right corners and they can see you from far away

Or when you're trying to keep an eye on the middle portion (where the metal detector is) and you get shot from behind (from above you)

[final leaf]

The hallways in the 21st floor as well, how they will just shoot from that window above the door if they're on the spiral stairs

A lot of it really is just like betting and hoping, i cant beat the MLO guys in a shootout unless i know they are there (best i can hope for is taking at least one bullet) but then you have the roamers that will come around the corner as you have your mirror gun out

[hexed oyster]

how many maps does the base game have

[bold crane]

20

[floral peak]

18

And 2 in Stories from Los Suenos

[hexed oyster]

so about 25~30 with the dlcs then?

[remote spear]

uh do i make a bug report if my progress was removed?

[wide scaffold]

Has anyone played balatro here? If so what should i buy balatro or dark waters dlc?

[wide scaffold]

Yes

[shut kraken]

where are the bombs on elephant

[wide scaffold]

The big class room, some chemistry/biology labs, tables in hallways

[final leaf]

Well ive discovered that flashbang launchers with a shitton of ammo has actually been more successful then going lethal

mainly because i dont have to aim as much to stun

[floral peak]

Also cafeteria, big staircases near cafeteria and class rooms

[shut kraken]

Thank you i finally got it

[wide scaffold]

Well the only classrooms are the chemistry and biology ones

[floral peak]

Yeah, usually the ones on 2nd floor classes there are bombs

[night jewel]

Sometimes in Cafeteria and Security room.

[floral peak]

☝️ also there

[night jewel]

What happen to the old American?

[wide scaffold]

Brutal death

[floral peak]

We are better Americans, living in brand New America

We have 0 crime rate

[floral peak]

Universal healthcare

[final leaf]

Oh my fucking god bro the one time i get to the court room cleanly without the trigger man seeing the fucking safe device is in a room ive never seen it in before

[floral peak]

Jammer?

It’s always in one of 3 spots

[night jewel]

Haha me too, I just storm in because I had enough lmao.

[floral peak]

City council, conference room near staircase to floor 22 and room near mayors office

[final leaf]

Legit every other time i find the jammer with no problem but then get fucked getting to the court room and the one time i get to the court room relatively unscathed the jammer is in a completely different spot (room near mayors office)

ive been trying this since yesterday and havent got it there once ffs

[rocky plover]

True but still there's the hassle of needing to arrest them then which sometimes has it's own problems if other suspects decided to push

[timber urchin]

its been ages and its still "authenticating connection to epic games" is multiplayer just broken?

[floral peak]

Nope, it appears to be rare

[timber urchin]

well its been months and its still happening

ive tryed a ton of things

[floral peak]

Idk, works fine for me

[timber urchin]

hm

well its too late for a refund

[floral peak]

Have you checked your modded settings?

Sometimes when joining modded sessions on it’s get weird

[timber urchin]

i diont have any mods nor joined anyone with mods

dont*

[floral peak]

In Settings

There option “join modded sessions” and “allow mods”

[timber urchin]

there both on

[floral peak]

Try turning them off

It could help

[timber urchin]

nothing changed

wait

it worked!
how did i not try this i feel so stupid noww

[floral peak]

Also

If you hosted lobby, sometime ppl couldn’t join you

Especially cross platform

[timber urchin]

so those settings are kinda broken or???

[floral peak]

This help with that too

[timber urchin]

help my pc fans are so loud istg its abt to blow up

[floral peak]

If you planning hosting lobbies for cross platform games, be sure to turn these off so they can join you

[timber urchin]

alr!
mmy mate plays on ps5 so

[rocky plover]

Check #💻tech-support many people have that issue and some have seemed to solve it

[sweet fractal]

i feel ready

[wide scaffold]

No fucking i way i just missed half a mag and the suspect didn't even take any damage

Aaand a suspect just one tapped me

[last dawn]

welcome to ready or not

[final leaf]

Question. Does anyone know if the special qualifications stack? Also is each slot of door wedges only 1 or is it multiple?

[rocky plover]

I didn't understand your first question, but about your second question, wedges and c2 come in pairs for each slot, so 1 slot = 2, 3 slots = 6 etc...

[final leaf]

Cool thanks. For the first question i mean the abilities that each member of your squad gives you, so like the ones that make suspects more likely to surrender, give the entire squad more health etc

Also in other news i finally did new america, i was so close to an S but in classic fashion my AI right before the last room decided not to listen to me and 2 of them died

but im just glad that its over with at a rank above B

[rocky plover]

Ohh, yes some are stackable up to 2x or even 4x while some are not

[hexed oyster]

playing aggressive with shotguns is fun

[ivory geyser]

Which graphic settings makes optic blurry

[rocky plover]

Anti aliasing I think, also avoid upscaling such as dlss or fsr

Also check if resolution scale is 100%

[wide scaffold]

I am genuinely not sure should i buy dark waters or balatro

[lost inlet]

wth is balatro?

[rocky plover]

A game nothing related to RoN lol

[lone portal]

why the fuck did my ai teamate just wisper "do it" in my radio after we secured everything and i was looking for soft objectives, in rust belt

it scared the shit out of me

[stoic thistle]

Judge is schizophrenic.

Or the tunnels are haunted.

[winter pendant]

If they go too long without orders they start yapping

[lone yarrow]

Yall are there ghosts in the game?? I saw people post about it (I just bought the game yesterday and play mainly on PS5, sometimes on PC)
I googled it and it said "Ready or Not does not feature literal, supernatural ghosts or monsters in its core gameplay" Im confused now, is Judge crazy or are there ghosts

[naive marsh]

Guys u remember early access carriers of the vine?

It was nightmare

And had old MLO

Hard but good

[lone portal]

there is one monster or ghost or something in rust belt

deep in the cave lake, you will see from afar two glowing eyes blinking

[uncut cliff]

I just remember getting gunned down like a second after I breached

[lone yarrow]

Oh alright, thank you

[final jacinth]

yeah there were mlo operatives instead of carriers of the vine

[lone portal]

But it doesnt interact with you or anything its just a little easter egg

@lone yarrow

[lone portal]

my favourite early acsses was the hospital, and when you could have chosen a scenario, there were more rooms on the ground floor to clear and i think less floors, i liked that alot

especially the hostage scenario

[solemn patio]

elephant suspects should be slower lowkey

they're using legit roid armor

like they should be able to manage maybe a speed-walk at most

[lone portal]

they are kids with guns and a goal to kill everyone, they should be running, but be way less aware and precise, since the adrenaline rush and no prior training thats just my opinion

if you saw ever bodycam of school shootings, usually the shooter is running and making sure he didnt miss anyone

[solemn patio]

most school shooters arent packing level 4 plates

[lone portal]

you could get a level 3 at this day and age just very expensive

as a civilian

[solemn patio]

im saying i wouldnt think the type to shoot up a school would be packing level 4 plates thats all

[lone portal]

true

they know they are going to die

[solemn patio]

maybe they could introduce a tripping mechanic for when they sprint on heavy armored suspects

[lone portal]

so there would be no point for armour

[solemn patio]

theres still a point for chest rigs tho :)

[lone portal]

chest rigs yes

[solemn patio]

i lowkey want the pmags on some of the heavy vests for the stanaggers

the ars

[lone portal]

i hope the follow up will be more military focused, since like the goverment fell appart maybe like some warlord takes over and we need to do like a coup operation

on his like renovated white house

[solemn patio]

i want an option to change my handguard and stock

maybe my barrel too, imagine barrel length options for more rifles than just the mk18

[solemn patio]

i want a riot control dlc

where we get batons as a tactical

to beat suspects into submission

[lone portal]

Remember

no russian

[solemn patio]

i really want the suspect lmgs

i want to rock the stuff the guys in narcos were with the dual drums

[wooden lintel]

Was that mk18 with dual drums? You can use it, get azzys armoury

Mod

[solemn patio]

im a console peasant

[wooden lintel]

Oh lol

[solemn patio]

imagine a 33 round mag for the g18 or the option to use the g18 mag on the g19

[wooden lintel]

Yeah, some modded guns have ~30 rounds in mag, but yeah it's mod, not in game stuff

[hallow forum]

hi everyone

[jovial compass]

Hello

[modest quartz]

That would be peak

Can we get some ball caps lol

[lone portal]

what are ball caps

[modest quartz]

Hats

[eternal ledge]

We already do

[modest quartz]

Sometimes I like running no helmet

[modest quartz]

Pc?

[eternal ledge]

Yes we have hats

[lone portal]

There is now

[eternal ledge]

No

[lone portal]

since the breaking point update

[eternal ledge]

There’s hats but you need the DLC to get them

[modest quartz]

Well I'll check when I get off work

[lone portal]

ups not breaking boiling point, my ghost recon breakpoint era came out

[modest quartz]

I'm all about character customization

[eternal ledge]

Real

[modest quartz]

Great game when they fixed it

[lone portal]

ghost recon breakpoint is great for customization

I remember me being like 12 milsiming breakpoint with actual marines

[eternal ledge]

Drip over stats

[modest quartz]

Just looking like a straight operator, GR does it well

[hallow forum]

https://tenor.com/view/sons-anarchy-of-gif-19937809

[modest quartz]

Games like that translate well for guys with actual experience is really fun when everyone is in the same page. Same with RoN

[lone portal]

I doubt those dudes had experience

i remember one dude was retired like 40 and one just finished boot

But it was still great playing with them

[modest quartz]

Fair enough

[storm belfry]

@chilly dome what the HELL hit that guy?

He went to whole different map

[sour ledge]

I’m screaming for balaclavas in commander mode, and open colour options for all apparel.
Would be cool to have a distinction between RoE. Say you have blue team Non Lethal, and red team Lethal. Have blue able to engage first. I role teams in different Role and if a suspect raises their weapon the suspect gets beanbagged and 17 holes of .300 blackout in their chest. Be cool to have a hold fire or return fire only option. (Playing on Xbox I’m aware mods exist for master race)

[chilly dome]

Lol idk😭

[storm belfry]

Must've been a SINGLE 6.5 round

Power of Hype

[rocky rover]

feasible and complicated rn, but I love your idea

[sour ledge]

Thanks. I try to play the game realistically so I usually have the full squad lethal. Blue and Red Alphas with shields in Double File and I’m dedicated Non Lethal. Bravos are my breacherszUsually beanbag shotgun.

Bravo breachers and im on beanbag.

Don’t know what happened with my keyboard there 😂😂😂

[rocky rover]

np. I like too have a "realistic" approach. since swat4, no FPS can make me feel such stress in a mission

the self reward after a successfull mission is dope, but the hurt for the ego is also very present when you consider in most of the time (maybe not in hard), you are the only responsible of your deaths

[sour ledge]

I’ve had missions last well over an hour because I do “Stand-off Simulator” 😂

[rocky rover]

lol.usually, after 45min in game, I can feel the stress tiring me as fuck

lke "I feel myself at 92% of my ability, too risky to attempt a mission,let's have a sleep and try tomorrow"

[sour ledge]

I play on hard but I rarely die. It’s usually a civ dying that prevents me from getting a good rank because I refuse to run blindly towards armed suspects

[rocky rover]

patience is really key

[sour ledge]

The ai will kill civs if you take too long though it’s really stupid

Had the guys on the yacht massacre the civs because I was holding the doors for too long. Replayed with SAS rules and got A+

[rocky rover]

have only base game on PS5, so occurs mainly on elephant. what is SAS rules?

a mod?

[zinc lantern]

You need to detain the HVT before he gives the command for suspects to start executing civilians on that mission

[zinc lantern]

I think they’re just talking about how they approached the mission

[rocky rover]

ok. I would love to hear more about it

[naive marsh]

Fr

[naive marsh]

Yeah I don’t understand why it got removed

[sour ledge]

Oh SAS rules is my personal term for when I do two attempts of realistic swat and fail. Then I put on all black kit and don’t shout for compliance, I storm with flash bangs and double tap and do death check headshots.

[rocky rover]

noted. same but I called "damn thoses motherfuckers upset me, now I am upset, they will see"

usually, they don't really see or just my dead body

[sour ledge]

It’s basically “am I playing as swat or counter terror” 😂

Counter terrorism units don’t yell for compliance usually

[rocky rover]

no. they're more on "wall of bullets"

[bitter plaza]

which optic gives me the best visibility, like not blocking my view because most optics i try use always block the suspect im aiming at making it harder to see their actions and canted isnt accurate enough for me

[rocky rover]

canted sights are arsh. dont you like 510C ? large field of view imo

my choice is mainly driven by size of the map I will play, and after by the gun I use

[keen dirge]

Is there a way to play with mods with other people?

[bitter plaza]

too much height over bore ngl

my fav sight is prob the iron sights on the berreta but that isnt very effective against armour

the shotgun iron sights are good too but the shotgun itself is not precise enough and not too much range

[rocky rover]

how will you tell it is an issue for you?

[distant rose]

do the enemies in Hide and Seek wear armour or nah?

[bitter plaza]

harder to hit headshot/throatshots especially if they are taking a hostage

[rocky rover]

check this out bro https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1d89lpFDA9lo_v13iBlnhtuA6DvuUnKfPaeo0d4RBGJ4/edit?gid=700315143#gid=700315143

[distant rose]

ty

[rocky rover]

sorry for the "read that and shut up", but the file is a real wiki. enjoy and share!

[bitter plaza]

also can you be stealthy with subsonic suppressed sub machine guns or any other guns

[distant rose]

nah i don't mind. the doc is more useful than a normal answer.

thanks for it

[rocky rover]

👍 thanks the writter

[distant rose]

ty MMMM (0_0) where ever you are

[sweet fractal]

alr guys would you like to lowkey hear a challenge i got

[wooden lintel]

No

[elfin flame]

I'm kinda curious

[distant rose]

sure y not

[sweet fractal]

Neighbourhood Cop Challenge

Must have a primary with only 1-2 mags of any type however it must only be a Sub-Machine gun or Shotgun or Less Lethal.
Must have a secondary chambered in 9x19 [yes must be 9x19 specifically]

Only armour you can have is a stab vest,and no helmets,and you can have as much secondary ammo as you want.
Only long tactical allowed is a breach shotgun.
flashbangs and stingers aren't allowed.

Feel free to wear anything but a patrol outfit is recommended

[sweet fractal]

you dont need to do this lol this is just for fun and shi

[opaque sky]

Who thinks the Game will get an option to double lay Key Inputs like Ctrl+R or Alt+R or even Ctrl+Alt+R etc like every good Game?

[oak dove]

just played rust belt. I really wish more maps were like this.

not that I dislike the other maps or mechanics, but this map proves the game is flexible enough to be SWAT as well as SEAL simulator.

[rocky rover]

I feel I ever lost into thoses tunnels

[oak dove]

the tunnels are fun and interesting, but I really liked the topside. it's the longest distance I've had to approach anything from yet.

[sweet fractal]

i think i get the likeness on the LVAR

[sweet fractal]

slap on a vertical grip and this thing has the recoil of an mp5

[sweet fractal]

not really but the recoil makes it more controllable

[fossil ember]

Ready or not,
This warrant says NO-KNOCK!

[sweet fractal]

peak🥹

[fossil ember]

Thank you lol

[open raven]

Hi. How to remove vest in tactical gear. I'm on Xbox.

[rocky rover]

when you choose your load out, the upper ooption is armor selection

you can choose between stab vest, light armor or heavy armor

[rustic quartz]

holy shit judge's life is sad

when you get S rank on A New America it takes you to his home

his entire wall is just

filled with suspects and stuff from missions

he says the only thing he likes doing is cleaning his gun and going to the range

he doesnt even have a bed

[rocky rover]

yeeeeah

[rustic quartz]

he just sleeps on a mattress

[warm slate]

Well hes a sleeper agent or something like that is he not?

[rocky rover]

I dont hae a bed but a ps5 and a sound system. and I like ceaning y gun

[rustic quartz]

hes an experiment by the USIA, explained by the guy in the "bad" ending

[elfin flame]

Can't you find some therapy notes saying (among other things) that he "self-identifies as a system waiting for an input"?

[rustic quartz]

something like that

[warm slate]

Yeah so its sad but he doesnt feel it really i think so thats a bit better

[elfin flame]

man is completely broken (both by his past and with the USIA experimentation), which makes him perfect to be rebuilt

[rustic quartz]

i feel like the S rank ending is like

it shows more about his life at home while the prison ending shows more about him

cause the guy in the prison ending basically just explains how hes an experiment

and Judge talks to himself about stuff like "was any of this real"

but in the s rank ending he just talks about how he needs more hobbies 😭

id love to see more of Judge's home though

and the prison ending brings so much more content idea

[elfin flame]

yeah, I feel like Prison ending might be the canon ending, at the very least it sets up nearly perfectly for a potential sequel

[rustic quartz]

right

i feel like for Judge it's a little bit wrong but he could literally be going mentally insane

also for a "underfunded" department they have a lot of shit

[elfin flame]

I feel like most of their funds is pumped directly into their SWAT program, or even stright to D-Platoon

[warm slate]

How do people even get s rank i barely managed to get c rank and that was before I knew about the endings and just failed to stop the explosion (neither did I activate the device)

[elfin flame]

Strategy and luck

[rustic quartz]

you have to disarm the vip suspect by uh

after you arrest him go up to his vest and disarm it

[elfin flame]

I think they just missed the jammer entirely

[rustic quartz]

or that idk

[elfin flame]

unless I misinterpreted

[warm slate]

The most I knew was to activate the jammer and within 2 minutes stop the trigger man but I wanted to like isolate that last room and go back to the jammer activate it and then come back to take them down bfr it exploded but the door of theirs was open and I reckon thats what caused the explosion cus they saw me

And I've been trying near a week to complete that damn objective but everytime I get killed at those stairs tbfr so I can go and get the bad ending n the trophy

[elfin flame]

yeah those stairs are hell imo

in my playthrough I wedge off the central hallways of 2nd and 3rd as much as I can to quarantine off those high-suspect areas so they don't flank

though thinking about it now that might just be making that area worse

[warm slate]

And the ai doesnt even fully go up the stairs cus I want them to like go through for example the left side and me the other (cus im obv built different than my squad)

[elfin flame]

I've had the opposite problem. I tell my guys to clear that stair room, then half my team ended up going up the stairs, then Swan just ran past the Courtroom causing the building to explode

[glass heart]

why would you play ana with swat ai

unless you just like torturing yourself

i only play that with real players

[warm slate]

Maybe we ain't got no friends, friend

[elfin flame]

iirc you can only get the cutscenes for the endings in single-player

i.e. with AI

[glass heart]

you can find people in here

[glass heart]

unfortunate

im not looking forward to having to do that, all my ana runs so far have been with 4 others

[warm slate]

Ye thats a bit of a reason I joined tbh

[elfin flame]

my only successful run was with a buddy, and even then it was rough

[warm slate]

Has anyone even gotten s rank on hard mode?

[floral peak]

All of them, except one

A new america

[rocky rover]

🤏

[warm slate]

On ana I meant sorry

[floral peak]

Oh, well

There is very few ppl who actually did it

its almost as bad as programmed psychosis

[rocky rover]

youtube is full of achievment, guide, and so. did they cheated/lied about the difficultly?

[floral peak]

They might have

but thats on them

My best so far was A+ on Hard ana

i was running duo with my friend

[rocky rover]

I trust u here the map is harsh

[floral peak]

its not the map

[warm slate]

My best is c💔

[floral peak]

its the damn AI

[warm slate]

And the only time I completed it

[floral peak]

AI is too busted

even for RoN

Hard greased palms sends its regards

[warm slate]

Fr I bet not even a real swat commander could get s rank on hard

[floral peak]

Relapse shakes

[rocky rover]

that is the final round.we never have forgiven the dev for putting an easy one as for big ending

[floral peak]

They can do hard missions alright

[warm slate]

Imo relapse is the hardest base game

[floral peak]

idk really

for quite some time Greased Palms was the hardest for me

Relapse is more time consuming

[warm slate]

Atleast in my experience it took me like 7 tries greased palms and like 10 for hide and seek

Relapse definitely took 20

[floral peak]

if we talk about standart diff, i dont even know whats hardest

if about hard diff, GP soloes

[warm slate]

But tbf till then I didnt change my load out I remained w light armor default rifles allat

[rocky rover]

grease palms is actually adifficulty wall in the campaign progression

[floral peak]

honestly i might genuienly switch to stab vest for ANA

[rocky rover]

run and hide?

[floral peak]

i just cant have enough flashes for Hard S

even as duo we still run out a lot

and when it comes to floor 22

We either out of ammo, or on brink of death

usually both

And on floor 22 these mfs are especially cracked

Whoever designed floor 22 i hate him with burning passion

[warm slate]

Bro I legit got 1 tapped from the 3rd floor on the leftist side before entering the door from a guy near the elevators (i had heaviest armor w steel and ballistic helmet)

[floral peak]

literally hardest part of it is to enter past metal detector

[floral peak]

They dont really care

and tbh better switch to light armor

for more slots and faster acceleration

Heavy armor doesnt do much here

[rocky rover]

every one steel armor?

[floral peak]

yeah

Because of the amount of FALs here

[warm slate]

Well now I usually use either sa58osw or lvar single shots and I use like 2 or 3 flashes 4 wedges

[floral peak]

ceramic just pops really quick

[warm slate]

Thats all I need

[rocky rover]

ok for ana. and in general?

[floral peak]

if i go lethal there, either RTWC-6,5 or B1013

[warm slate]

But idk I feel like in this game speed doesnt matter that much

[floral peak]

for big calibers

7,62 snaps it really quick

[rocky rover]

funny like I begin the game with full auto and complete armor, now light armor front only, and semi auto of course

[floral peak]

one of the main objectives is to reach ammo refill

[rocky rover]

it is a game approach changer. ninja or tank. but tank dontlast long in RoN

[sour ledge]

I stormed that map with a flash launcher, 9 bangers and no secondary weapon ammo and S ranked it in 2:21 😁😁😁

[floral peak]

Keep in mind that armor, in case of speed, only influences acceleration

[rocky rover]

??? 🏆

[floral peak]

Top speed is always the same for any type of armor

[lone yarrow]

Ooh, okay

thanks

[sour ledge]

Relapse

[floral peak]

Difficulty?

[rocky rover]

yeah yeah, I was just stunned

[rocky rover]

sure, but acceleration really matters when you're hidding from a corner

[floral peak]

yeah

[warm slate]

Well what's really the difference though? Ive been looking at a couple vids to improve learn cqb and allat but it seems to me it doesnt really matter about speed

[sour ledge]

Standard. I’ve attempted it on Hard but after 9 hours I gave up 😂

[floral peak]

Sounds about right

[sour ledge]

I’m only human 😅

[rocky rover]

that is really a feeling to me. but not coming back to heavy armor as far I can say

[floral peak]

And free lean is king there

[sour ledge]

Reckon if I had VR I could do it on hard just the reaction time sucks with sticks

[warm slate]

I ain't no chicken brother

[warm slate]

FR

[rocky rover]

lol

[rocky rover]

play on console? thought about plug a mouse and keyboard? never get the handy "select your tactical in millisec" with gamepad

[sour ledge]

Yeah I’m on Xbox no mouse and keyboard plus I’ve never been a pc gamer so it’d probably take more time than sticks

Oh, the the team RoE split thing I was on about earlier… works. Kinda…
Blue team non lethal and gets ordered about. Clear etc. Red stays with you. Send blue in, if the shout storm with red as backup they’ll shoot before the lethal guys and red won’t fire because blue/you are in the way

If things go south red will automatically track to where they can fire

[rocky rover]

shield in your teammate gears?

[sour ledge]

Blue alpha shield, bravo beanbag. Pepperballs are useless imo unless you use it yourself and go taptaptaptap with it one shot does nothing. It’s like tasering an alligator you’ll only piss him off 😂

So blue alpha is shield and pepperball shield but bravo will do the subduing with the beanbag

[rocky rover]

agreed about peperballs as first sight. but cool to harass people after they get beanbagged

or randomly aimed

[sour ledge]

You could modify this to be gold leader runs shield and lethal and draws Argo from ai while blue fire but unfortunately you can’t order them to brrrrrrt suspects with pepperballs

[formal shell]

Is the my eyes it burns achievement still bugged? I saw a workaround on reddit, tried it and it's still not on unlocking, so I was just curious.

[rocky rover]

U wont like it but may help
#❗known-issues-and-fixes message

[unkempt granite]

does kill me command only appera on quickplay or smth?

[elfin flame]

A screenshot I found on a Steam guide (Achievement Guide The Devil by Teimo) shows you can also do it in Commander mode, but it likely won't show up in multiplayer as you need bots to fulfill the command.

[unkempt granite]

i tried last night on commander but it didn't show up

[cerulean berry]

how do i fix this? #🎨ron-screenshots-and-art message

[rocky rover]

never did it but read you have to put distance from your teammate before execute a civ

[rocky rover]

The lighting in the station may be dark with only the fogs visible
Try entering the loadout and then exit the loadout after waiting a moment

that is from #❗known-issues-and-fixes ,cant tell if it will help

[unkempt granite]

i leave them at the spawn of thank you come again and shoot the first civ down

[elfin flame]

They have to be cuffed

[rocky rover]

sounds a fair distance, or maybe you were on their sight

[cerulean berry]

it aint goin away sadly

[unkempt granite]

ive also tried cuffing them

[cerulean berry]

hopin it dont show up in missions

[rocky rover]

kill the boss's girl

[onyx swift]

I was gonna say, like bro Relapse in under maybe 8 minutes while rushing is already insane

[elfin flame]

nah, might be easier and faster to just do it in quickplay

[rocky rover]

pc? restarted the game? some weird graphic presets?

[cerulean berry]

ive messed around with graphics

[onyx swift]

On Hard? There’s so many Suspects everywhere, that you’re gonna want to slow down and use Launchers on your team to not run out of ammo by the time you cross the bridge

[cerulean berry]

ill verify files and hope it works ig

[rocky rover]

🤞

[sweet fractal]

ANA has everyone going crazy💔

[cerulean berry]

nvm its fixed when i pop in a mission

[rocky rover]

glad to hear. enjoy ya duty officer

[cerulean berry]

mucho gracias

[fringe oxide]

[formal shell]

Lets go! finally got all the achevements so far

[quick peak]

Is PvP still planned or scrapped?

if its still planned when can we expect it

[rocky rover]

long time no :hasbrownbag from Afrohorse

(hope everything's fine)

[cedar knot]

Does flashing your flashlight at a NPC really do anything?

[rocky plover]

Just makes them suspicious

[sour ledge]

My fastest is 90 seconds on casual 😂

(Bomb diffusing not included)

Order to chaos

[onyx swift]

Did you just Flash every room with a Stab Vest on or something?

[cedar knot]

so uh

[opaque valve]

No. Besides, yeah, making anybody who can see it suspicious. It does nothing when there shooting at you either, you’d think it would blind them but nope, nothing, just a light to see

[cedar knot]

I kinda killed this guy

[glass heart]

no, neither do warning shots

[unkempt granite]

can all the "Do X mission with X gun" achievements be done online?

[glass heart]

if anything they cause you to get shot at faster

[opaque valve]

This

[cedar knot]

https://medal.tv/games/ready-or-not/clips/mwzygaIUwFpOYsuNd?invite=cr-MSxjY28sNDg2MzM3Mzcw

[opaque valve]

It’s horrible through windows. Suspects will see you but you just see a white circle ⚪️

[glass heart]

suspects generally just have perfect vision in all circumstances tho

[opaque valve]

True