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I just hipfire it until everything in the room drops :D
Lmao
Usually happens faster than I ran out of ammo in my mag
Damn haha
I like shooting accurately in controlled full auto bursts though lol
That's why I love the mp7, since it pretty much only has vertical recoil which is easy to control
P90 has horrendous horizontal recoil
I think I played with you in multiplayer
Lol
I still just love hk51
One shot one kill
And it isn't bad length wise
Although 762 would suck out of that gun irl
It's very good length wise actually
Its my go to for standard mode, well was
Ye it is
The new rwtc took it's spot now
True lol
Sa58 right?
Yeah
Ye that's slightly longer than the ga51
Close to the mk17 too
But the ga51 has the least recoil from all the 7.62 aswell
There's also full length 21 inch fal in the game files
Apart from g3A3
Although i haven't seen any suspects using it
Tfw short stroke piston 762 rifle has less recoil than ar10
Used to be standard length for fal
Don't get me started on this kind of stuff ššš
Reminded me about the goose gun for some reason lol
Actually i am super wrong
I forgot
It's roller delayed blowback
And it's pretty bad for recoil management
what makes the sr16 preffered over other 5.56 rifles?
Lowest recoil AR
Except g36C
I meant comparing Ron to actual guns
It's made by kac
yeah but its not that much less then the f90, and the f90 is easier to maneuver in cqc
True but the sr16 looks good as well and the f90 gets a lot of hate for being a bullpup lol
people have claimed that the f90 is mechanically worse in game for being a bullpup the hate is insane
Ikr lol they skip to conclusions too fast lol
F90 is modernized aug
bullpups arent even that bad its like a cult
What's an F90?
yuh i know
modernized aug
Ah
Not everyone is fan of long trigger pull
And reloading bullpups kinda suck
Depends
Although short length is worth it
A lot of bullpups nowadays dont have a long trigger pull
Yeah but doesn't f90 has it
Aug and f90 have them because of progressive triggers
Isn't it called ef88 or something
Depends on the version
The one that had a normal saftey diesnt have ine
Yeah im not a fan of progressive triggers
This truly depends on your background
My first ar i shot was an aug a2 so im very used to it
Also remember: mp7, p90, and most pistols are bullpup by technicality
can be debated as one of the best since its pne of the shortest
yo
The Aug just kinda gets a free pass from most people. Even those that dislike bullpups
this map is disgusting
Jack Adams isnt the same FISA agent as the one with TOC in hide and seek if thats what youre implying
this needs to be pinned, this is basically the meta
i completed ANA but completely forgot to turn on the signal jammer be4 arresting the VIP
i goofed up
There's mod that unlocks "hidden" guns, such as ak, saiga shotgun and couple more, but some are without attachments or very limited
Why has it become impossible to join a game on Xbox? I just get booted to the main screen.
Hi, I've been trying to do the S rank on "A new America" to unlock the secret cosmetic and whatever I try my AI team will most of the time die because I didn't babysit them. I'm reaching my boiling point with this mission and just want some advise please
Which one is better for light armor, steel front only or ceramic front and back
It's either full coverage ceramic or front only steel
With front/back steel you lose only 0.19 seconds of acceleration compare to full coverage ceramic
i got the handcuff watch and the devil tattoo without trying for S rank ngl from the ANA
Do bots have unlimited ammo? Or something just did a mission and told the AI to stay in a 1 spot and they probably shot not even a joke like 60 M32 flash at 1 guy across the map. I only gave them like 9 total or something
SWAT AI yes
How come the M11 Compact can't take a suppressor btw?
Is that a gameplay thing or a realism thing? Last I heard Sigs work fine with supppressors, no?
Wish I knew that sooner LOL
From S rank ages ago the post office mission was such a pain, since I had the M32 flash and AI bad 2 beanbag shotguns and 2 had pepperballs. But maybe now the new DLC won't be that hard to S rank
So front/back steel is still viable?
Only if you are being flanked from behind a lot, back protection is useless imo, at least in singleplayer where your teammates just can't hit you accidentally 
Hold them at spawn and solo it
..boiling point?
ive been trying to do "a new america" for likie 2 hours now
everytime every single one of my officers dies and then me
or me before them, they get laserd down and then i get rushed and killed
each run takes me a solid 30 minutes if not longer
Full team of flash grenade launchers
I just got RoN any tips?

Watch out for IR traps in corridors and doors, also bring mirror gun, play slowly. Close doors behind or even wedge them, dont hit the jammer, clear top except court room, send one team to left and another to right, c2 and bang, take the front door, flash and pray
Yes
Main gun is this VPL25 (Holo Sight/Combat Grip/Flashlight) 6 x Pepperball
To get an S rank you have to arrest every suspect
Thx
Get every gun, complete all objectives and secure all civs
M32A1 with only flash ammo, that all you need 
How do I beat greased palms without having my officers resign? Iām on Iron Man mode and Iām so tired of non-lethal.
By not killing every single suspect
Thatās the problem, though they all pissed me off and they donāt drop the gun.
Greased Palms is basically A New America jr
I just wanna bring something that instantly incapacitates them in one shot like 762.
Grenades, taser and traits
Reaching your what... 
Have a Pacifier and Negotiator Officer
Suspects surrender so much easier and prevent Officers from quitting
Only problem is I have zero negotiators
Well there's your problem
Well fire officers and grind them
Wait a minute I can just play a new America over and over again.
Sorry, wait not a new America. Thank you come again.
Iām trying to get the watch from Iron Man so I canāt fire anyone sadly
Iām on console. Will that affect anything?
Nah it works the same. No deaths, no incaps, no resignations
Need a C on port
that'll get you the achievement and the watch
I feel like ANA is a place where its susceptible to get flanked considering the ai there is smarter than any of the ai in any mission
So thanks for suggestion
Also, does anyone else have that glitch where the suspects will just stand there with their guns pointing and all that but they wonāt even move theyāll just kind of stare at you
i genuinely have no clue how to finish a new america
no matter how heavily armored my guys are they just die, launcher flash into room, get beamed anyway
within 10 minutes all 4 of my guys are dead and i cant even push because the ai is mag dumping me through an entire floor
literally went through 4 mags shooting at the ground above me while i was on stairs
i peek for 0.000001 picoseconds and get full autoed to the face
If you have the flash grenade launcher, thatās probably the play
it does okay but most of the time they die anyway
ive been on this for almost 3 hours
Have you tried shields?
yea i have one breacher in red with a shield who always goes first
pushing up the stairs is so hard though, theres just so many angles and they prefire full auto you through the wall so if youre walking in you get shot 4-5 times instantly
im about to just do it solo and hope for the best
6 runs down the drain already
yea towards the end i presume
Dude stingers thatās all Iām gonna say that and nine bangs
yea i might just have to try that
and spam those mfs
i cant imagine what its like on hardcore
irl i wouldnt even wanna push an area like that without a drone
A full team of flash launchers and 9 bangers clears any buildings like itās nothing
alright ill give that a whirl as well
You may have trouble seeing sometimes
Stingers are great for massive areas, especially when you get up to the top floor
Same for the launcher, itād be better if there was a higher ammo cap
Not for the mag itself but for total rounds you can carry
Iām about to run for president at this point honestly so I can equip every police station with frag grenades simply so itās lore accurate and yaāll can use them.
Yes youāre definitely ready
do any of you have an issue with your guysās launcher teammates getting beamed as they lineup the shot? most times i see that happens to me
they just stand there and get shot
I hate how randomly theyāll see you through a window like dude when were you actually paying attention to your surroundings?
yea or youāre slow walking up to a door and they yell āTHEYRE HERE! FALLING BACKā
Like alright sure maybe there was a peephole on the door
No, these guys got x-ray vision Iām telling you
Dude, they will see like a tiny little bit of my black uniform and then theyāll start screaming their lungs out.
Like dude Iāll slip you a $10 if you just shut up bro.
lmao fr
it gets a little ridiculous sometimes
trying to fill auto beam me through a wall before you even see me
iām like āwho tf is shooting in the next roomā and figure itās them trying to shoot me
Oh my God, I can feel my cortisol levels. Lowering having a pacifier actually is good.
I just S ranked lethal obsession on accident
Dude, itās super overpowered your getting people on the ground that you donāt even see
I feel like the dog with the propeller hat and the giant lollipop, it feels wonderful.

Not only my cortisol levels have lowered, but also my cholesterol and I feel alive again.
I feel like a grown ass man covered in combat gear with a beanbag shotgun in a candy store.
also is it just me or does the enemy really like to do perfectly accurate and timed blind fires as soon as i start pieing my corners?
iāve even started turning my flashlight off just incase thatās what they see
Yeah, I know they just do that shit all the time blind fire and then theyāll almost kill you
did the last update auto remove all downloaded paks we had?
i havent played in a year
anyone struggling with new america :(
if you scroll up thats what all my yammerin is lmao
bro but this shit cant be real manššš
its real
A lot of people do
Seems like itās the hardest challenge that was bestowed upon us so far
Why not, tbf, seems like fun
I might get the boiling point dlc with all that feedback from people saying that we finally got a very hard mission
Dude, Iām about ready to quit this Iron Man run. I fucking hate greased palms.
jack adams t-posing on the 2nd floor balcony to assert dominance
Iām just going lethal if this ends the run who gives a shit
I got two dudes on my team that should reduce stress hopefully enough
I cried about it #šØron-screenshots-and-art message
Hunger strike is making me go insane
Very first attempt civilian dies within 2 minutes
relatable
so how do i make these guys NOT execute civilians like holy shit
I was stuck on hunger for weeks
I was stuck on greased palms for weeks
Clear the rear fast
Took me like a day
The thing about greased palms is how open but cluttered the area is
Everyone is in the back of hunger strike usually
You don't know where they can see you or shoot you and you don't know where you can take cover
Just bring a 7.62Ć51 rifle and punch through cover
I do
I just did my second attempt starting from the parking lot and got like 5 suspects/civilians on the groundš
I'm fucking locked in
Buuuut someone ran away and killed a civilian
Where is his nvg that boy is not ready
He's playing a day map
Nvg all day and night
Or he's a baller with the flashlight
The flashlight is too narrow for me to actually see whats going on
Yet i still use it as plan B
Oh my god bro im already so sick of hunger strike i shot fucking everyone
I am NOT ready
How bad would it be if greased palms I just killed everyone?
like seriously, how bad would the stress level be?
prolly like 4 missions worth of therapy
they probably will
Fuck.
you killed everyone already didn't you
Iām just saying
I mean itās not my fault when I shoot them in the fucking chest that they die. Itās their own goddamn fault they should be wearing body armor.
well
what i do when i know im in a clusterfuck of a mission
is i just close the game down completely
works everytime
I have been doing that lol
I've just done it 3 times in the past 10 minutes cuz hunger strike is a pain in my ass
But Iām just about to turn into some sweaty cod kid and just breeze through this.
like seriously I donāt understand 7.62 to the chest five times wonāt kill them but four 5.56 rounds will?
Are we deadass?
"just be ready" brutal
Will HP rounds not kill them instantly?
idk im using the new assault rifle which apprehends suspects with 1 bullet most days
What rifle is it?
I personally use the F90 but what makes the RTWC 8.5 so good?
.
I know Iām just wondering, does it have any other tricks up its sleeve?
it only has semi auto
Also, which oneās better for recoil the ASR or the SFMB?
no idea i aint a gun nerd
neither am I Iām just straight up wondering though
I also donāt understand how dudes will get sprayed with the P90 but still live but if I use the F90 itās all over.
like dude, you might as well classify the F90 as a battle rifle.
I guess that you have to hit them a tiny bit above the stomach to take them out in one shot
Unauthorized use of force, dude he was holding a gun. What the fuck was I supposed to do? Let him shoot me.
Dude should be grateful heās still alive
Whatās a rifle that youād give to children? Iām trying to figure that out, something thatās not too powerful because I donāt want my teammates to kill the suspects by accident.
I'm definitely not the first one to say this/whine about this but i feel like the Beanbag shotgun is just absolutely useless
ive been stuck on The Spider for i think like 4 multiple hour sessions and almost every try it happens that someone needs an entire mag or even more than one mag of that nerf gun to give up and surrender
isnt the shotgun supposed to break ribs and cause a LOT of internal damage?? I think they shouldnt be able to just brush off more than two shots of that like its nothing
I want it to be like barely enough to kill.
Using Beanbag Shotgun is kinda a mixed experience honestly.
are there any alternatives? or atleast a small glimmer of hope towards a buff?
To be honest, it really depends on the map. The shotgun is also kind of buggy too.
Youāll hit shots sometimes, but they wonāt register
i think its not that theyre not registering but rather that the sight isnt all too accurate
Maybe
cough
bless you
Proceeds to whip out a draco
Do you have to get the A New America S rank in Hard mode or in Commander mode for the secret ending with Judge? I got a standard S rank in a solo friends only multiplayer
And didnt get it. Thought that was all you need
Alright, I need to ask this what is FED SRC?
I think you gotta do it in commander
#š¬ron-clips-and-media message Thoughts?
Iām that tired or palms I just donāt give a shit anymore.
clean..?
Idk but all I know is he wasnāt fast enough.
hard mode suspects salivating at door kicks
Real
Ong.
is that islam makhachev
Now how am I going to do palms without stressing out my team? 
ha good one
you dont

yuhhh
which difficulty
Casual.š
Hardcore boiz

hey man you gotta do hard mode iron man solo
im sure this question is asked alot but ive done the requirements for the bad ending on ANA, but I haven't gotten the cutscene or cosmetic, is it a requirement you have to do it solo in a multiplayer lobby/commander mode?
At that point Iām gonna pray thatās what happens to me the next time Iām near a door.
i apologize for interupting your guys convo
I think commander
I got commander and just activated the detonator
Cosmetic?
Yeah you get a single handcuff
Wdym?
yeah i beat it with a friend so that may be why
Does it have to be an S?
nah js the bad ending, the S rank is for a diff cosmetic
pov i have no friends to do the missions with so i always do commander hahahahahaaaha
btw do the rules apply for S ranking the mission as well?
yes
dude if you want we can run missions tg
my feet hurt
i dont play commander mode much js due to the fact that i enjoy being the one who does everything (i dont trust anyone but myself)
im antisociaail
well if you ever change your mind hmu
anyway ty
cs i beat it two times thinking i did smth wrong
not aware it HAS to be commander mode, now i gotta sweat commander mode
Question with palms should I have three of those guys on my team that reduce stress?
Like I genuinely donāt want these guys to all of a sudden retire
wish i could answer, i only play solo š
but in general i think its best to try to arrest in commander mode
taking lives stresses your guys out
i may be wrong tho so dont take my word as law or wtv
Thatās the only problem Iām using 5.56 and these guys are being meanies.
greased palms is like bottom 5 maps if youre inexperienced
Itās not my fault that they walk in front of my bullet and end up having their head explode.
its actually terrible
2nd worst map in the game
whats the worst

ana
SFMB.
ik but I have so many clips of the guys shooting me through walls randomly
trueee
Have to slow walk, and peek doors only
it requires so much map understanding, i have the entire layout memorized
Guys suspect weapons are meant to drop after restraining them right...
yes
So uh this guy is restrained & has a Makarov in his thigh
And I think its stopping me from completing hide & seek
Excecute him.
BRO his gun is on his thigh but outside of his holster
Ima just end the mission without itš
Nope that wasn't it, I got 34/34 on the evidence
I missed a soft objective.
4/5
Noted.
Slightly weaker but more controllable 7.62x51mm.
did you get the auction?
JHP 6.5 can one shot on the body if the enemies has no health modifier on standard.
Yes, and the weapon cache, and the women
the drugs?
Thats probably what I missed, where were theyš
its random between the 3 containers outside
Why did these people just not put their gun down bro?
the one without evidence has a car inside
like dude I literally just clipped your fucking friend.š
They requires convincing.
so are the 9 bangs garbage or what
not for a room with lots of suspects at different depths of a room
i just threw one deep into a room, in stunned the guy right in front of the door i was walking through and didn't even affect the guy in the back
Oohh, I only found the weapons & car, never knew there was 3
Itās bad for wide and open area since its radius is only 5m.
It has a smaller range than a regular flashbang
okay i will take that into consideration lol
i just get annoyed when i throw one right over a group and they just don't care
Stinger is my go to everytime.
does it work on armored suspects? i'm working on programmed psychosis and need any help i can get lol
Extra radius and the explosion sfx sounds great as hell, closest to a hand grenade.
Yes.
i'll have to try it then
because that top floor is a pain (when i even make it there)
Top floor is an ass clench
Grenade can stuns any type of suspects. So far, only gas grenade can be countered by very few suspects on certain maps only.
Void hard mode ai š„
i'm about to join one of these vcs and stream my pain
Proceeds to shoot him with a G19
i'm in US 6 if anybody wants to witness me crash out lol
Yeah
Jk
is the LVAR any good?
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is that a yes
yesvery yes
One of the best rifles in the game
It's recoil is quite jumpy, although it is manageable
Itās pretty meh.
Only good thing about it is that it uses .300blk.
It only has vertical grip for vertical recoil control, internally suppressor doesnāt functions like normal suppressor you can put on other guns and it doesnāt have access to muzzle brake options cause itās internally suppressed.
i donāt use auto fire
Itās the muzzle kick per shot.
Kinda like 416 but slightly more tamed.
im just saying cause recoil isnt a problem for me with single fire
ill try it out when i can
i have a question, if i shoot at someone after he shot me do i get penalized for ROE?
Normally, no.
do you know the turning point where it affects your score at the end
Alright then, nontheless recoil is jumpy which may affect your shots
when heās on the ground
What do you mean?
Real
Like which state you left the suspect in that would affects the score?
im just asking cause i feel like i complete missions perfeclty and i did all tasks but i still get like a B
Cause you incapped the majority of the suspects.
You need to arrest more if you want higher score.
yeah
and the only way to get S is to arrest everyone right
Mhm.
okok
Collect all evidences as well.
Youāll know you will get an S rank if no one dies/incapped and the game auto ended when the last evidence got bagged.
good
is there any reward for getting s rank on every operation besides an achievement
better be some good ass cosmetics
And flexing too, i guess.
playing the game in the most boring way better be worth it
and is it possible to get A+ while using lethal and following ROE?
fr like why would they add all those lethal weapons where if you want to get the best score u cant even use them
yeah
well donāt kill every suspect
cause we have to ābring order to chaosā
sometimes you gotta fight fire with fire
dude idk how my score goes down when i kill a suspect that just almost wiped out my team
stg happens to me too all the time
Yes.
Grenade do the heavy lifting.
Oh my God, dude Iām so sick of this mission and this $70 weapons pack is actually looking pretty good to me right now.
Itās just some guns bro why does it have to be $70?
greed
Because the point of s rank is to be really hard, if you could just kill anyone that shoots at you an s rank would be super easy and common to get.
Youāre on console?
What a great game for a suspect that can take a slug at point blank range, then not die or injured and then insta kill you what a great game š
Damm, youāre looking at the 510 shotgun and MKV right?
And the launchersā¦
And the piglet as well.
Youāre only missing out on the launcher due to how easy it is to spam grenade. You can use the M320 and aim your shot better.
He's just ready man
What map?
End of the earth
I can't I'm on ironman mode and if u kill too many suspects the officers will leave That's why I'm not using buckshot
then dont use guns, especially shotguns 
what is the best less lethal?
You can replay s rank gas station to put your swat bots back to content.
That's the thing u can use slugs because there is a higher chance of a suspect not dying if you shoot them a waist level and even high chest sometimes
depends whoās getting it
i need to make my officers happy again and im gonna try S rank gas station
yeah you have a higher chance of being turned to paste
there's 0 point to shotgun slugs
you will neither take anyone alive with them nor will you kill anyone with them
if itās ai give them something non lethal like the pepperball launchers or like gratr said the M32 flash
avoid giving them the beanbag since theyāll headshot the suspects
Better safe than sorry
Incap and kill are the same for majority of suspect encounter.
The p90 yes but the mp7 isn't a true bullpup even though it looks like it is;
the breach is not behind the trigger and the firing mechanic is still forward mounted
Yea I forgot to add 5.56 JHP for L2 highest as well if you want
Both are good as Aspid Zeus said even front and back steel is a good choice but imo steel front is the best for best protection while still being very fast, just be mindful on your surroundings and have good coverage to avoid getting shot from behind and make sure to you always face the threats directly
Idk if your question got answered already but sfmb has 10% more recoil reduction so sfmb is better
Lucky for you, thereās a google doc pinned that had all of the information about game.
^
i just shot like 20 bullets into one of those crazy women with white dresses and she tanked it and surrendered
Pepperballs? 
no
Lmao
Yo I got a question so i wanna get the handcuffs on a new America can I still get them on casual?
Yeah
doom you using hollow points?
no
theyre better for unarmored ppl
im tryin to get A Rank in A New America and its kicking me and my ai swats ass
im boutta snap
don't twist a nerve
im tryna do carriers of the vine and i keep dying
unless were talkin bout hard mode, carriers of the vine is not difficult
well i suck at the game
Oh no the TWDWAG guy played ready or notšš
Try flash grenade launcher if you have it and heavy armor
this current DLC's final mission is about to be A Lethal Obsession of mine
do u use steel plates on it?
Honestly i still don't know the difference btw platesš
any alternatives to the flash launcher
well from what i heard, ceramic has a 100% protection against most rifle rounds, but can break after getting shot alot, steel plates has 80% protection against all rifle rounds, cant never break but bullet can spall and make you bleed
MP7 that thing is like LMG
Turns suspects into swiss cheese
and with steel plates, if youre health is below 50% (lets say 20% health) you will gain 50% of your health back again
if im not wrong
Which one let's me take the most shots from the MLO guys
id say from personal experience, steel plates
even then youre still gonna get buttfucked by those mk ultra goons
steel plates got buffed beyond shit so they're just the best in any situation whatsoever
The humble speed debuff
beanbag is easiest to use
The flash is kinda fucking irritating and annoying imo
I dont like putting a bunch of visual effects on my screen for something the beanbag can do if you just have good aim.
theyre still the best
you should be playing this game extremely slowly
speed debuff doesnt matter since 90% of the games gunfights occur when your pieing an angle behind cover in the first place
Flash can stun multiple people in a single shot
Yeah but the normal flashbang can also do that
might as well bring a ton of flashbangs
guys is the LVAR good with stopping power and just deleting suspects or is it weak?
Grenade launcher removed the bounce from them, impact fuse is simply awesome
Itās good at dropping suspects

how about with gunfighter mod
Oh yeah, head down to #š§modding-chat , I heard it nerfs .300 guns quite a lot
Ask around down there
not with impact it cant
there's genuienly no point to the beanbag if you have it
I can't really think of a situation where impact would help me unless im playing like hyper aggressive
Flashbangs can go around corners and shit they are just better
no point if you can just aim it around a corner and stun the entire room the second you see a suspect
flashbangs going around corners doesnt really do anything if you dont know exactly where a suspect is
it has the same range, no fuse, no impact damage
if you use it like the beanbag it does the same thing but better
doesn't even need to pump between shots
there's not even the chance you shoot someone in the head by accident
I mean flashbangs just have a raw chance to kill someone I'd say thats way worse
not a thing
I've seen it happen before it can happen
nope
Denialmaxxing
it just doesn't happen, sorry
Denialmaxxing
it was revealed to me in a dream-maxxing 
It was revealed to me in gameplay
chatgpt gameplay
bloodpools dont spawn on faked deaths
flashbangs are the only grenade which doesn't deal damage
at all
and even the other grenades deal so little damage there is 0 chance anybody will ever die from them
That wouldn't make sense since flashbangs would be the most lethal grenade in logic
what logic 
Flashbangs are incredibly lethal in real life
Yeah and they can kill people just like the stingers and gas can
this game is not that deep bro
No less lethal is flawless apart from the pepperballs
pepperballs are also lethal 
both ingame and in real life
the taser has 0 chance to kill bro you are wrong about literally everything
Play the game more and get unlucky as fuck like me
Denial with zero proof
you're the one who started claiming it kills bro the burden of proof is on you š
I've already sent a clip of it doing it before
im not going into the depths of my PC to do it again for the same argument
waste of time to prove something that really doesn't matter
well then you potentially sent a clip of someone faking death
that's as far as it goes
Nah it had a bloodpool with the mouth agaped
if you do any bit of research you'll see that what i said is all true, try flashing a civilian 80 times
he wont die
actually shoot a civilian in the head in commander then flash yourself
you will not die
Im not flashing a civilian 80 times to prove something that 1. Makes logical sense and 2. I've literally seen happen.
then be in denial man, i cant help you
most things in ready or not do not make logical sense, not even game sense
Flashbang deals 0.05 damage
so it is possible but fucking rare as shit
and even then after all of this the flashbang launcher still feels like shit to use imo
I love loud ass sounds and throwing my screen around just to arrest one guy
I personally think the most "Fun" one is the gas launcher but yall meta mfs ain't ready for that conversation lol
Irl taser can very much kill
This isn't irl
And the gas launcher genuienly doesn't do anything throwing regular gas wouldn't in fact it might actually still be worse
I had my team kill me with Flashbangs when going for The Devil achievement
Their entire Loadouts were made for S Ranking, so I gave them all M32A1 Flashbang Launchers and TRPLs
Nothing thatād normally be able to do serious damage
just say your ass
Still got killed in a few Flashbangs from them
cant handle the gimmick
its extremely rare
I recommend not giving the swat ai the launcher they dont know to use it
they cant kill with the bean so just use that with them
nah they can clutch with them
Rarely, they might choose to stand there and not shoot them until a Suspect has already emptied like 8 rounds into the SWAT AI, but otherwise theyāre effective
thatās also true
Come to think of it, remember how Flashbangs and the Launcher could give Friendly Fire penalties to your team before?
It might be super small damage like Azzy mentioned, from how that was possible before
I lost a few Hard S Ranks from that 
you had to search for angles to NOT get friendly fire
I redid them later and got it right, but MAN
i lost a lot
Some of them made me go back to Beanbag lol
Im still trying Hard S ANA
But for the most part it was no problem
actual nightmare
wanna know funny thing
So i doing it in duo with my friend Metal, and we had the run
I already got drive-byād and even wallbanged by a few Suspects on Standard practice reruns while going slow and methodical as per usual
But i died to a single suspect who tanked 5 flashes
i was talking about pepperballs
I watched one Suspect tank 11 Beanbag Shots while standing around/slightly running
He didnāt even FLINCH until I used a Flashbang
@quasi coral I saw that 
No you didn't
But yea beanbag rounds sometimes just don't work, the suspects seem to have iron ribs
I watched a video once, the guy hit a suspect point plank multiple times with the beanbag and he took it
I had a suspect teleport and dome me, even had a few respond to beanbag rounds by ascending into the ceiling 
sometimes one suspect eats whole mag, while a group of suspects gives up from one flash
do you guys use Cs grenades
It can go the other way around too, 1 shot and the guy is down, or a flash point blank and he won't flinch
ouch
With Gas Masks/someone dedicated to it
This has been fixed though, now the problem is my teammates terrible throwing skills
because they lower suspects accuracy, it helps to run across the hallway when needed
Tell me why my guy tosses the 9 bang about a step away from the door
or run towards ammo box when at floor 22
I don't like using them
I miss CS before LSS, but now itās kinda a middle ground
i need more slots, then we will easily complete it
They used to be ridiculously OP, now Suspects can still sometimes run away if far enough from the radius
Yea I feel like CS is solid now, it's extremely useful in the right situations
No reason to complain about it now, right?
(From a guy who hasn't deployed CS once in my life)
ehh with how the M32A1 Flashbang Launcher is allowed to existā¦
Yea slots are unrealistically small, but it makes sense given the canon gear set you wear
Iād make my extra slots use Wedges probably, if we had more
And then it's unrealistically large when you have something like the SHAW on
Dont look into how it used to instakill you randomly when you shot it 
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I'd go with 2 stingers or wedges, like you said
Stingers too, yeah
Canāt go wrong with some C2 in addition
I never get tired of blowing doors to bits
Itās so cinematic if I catch a Suspect or two in the blast too
Always fun to have em, I have one for every guy
Same, I always carry at least 1 (2 total) on me normally
And give 1 to my SWAT AI on some presets
Got some bang for your buck blowing it AHHHH AHHHHH š£ļø š£ļø š„
I would like less getting blasted in the head from 25 meters while holding the nastiest pixel peak known to man
POW
I think the best C2 I ever had, caught 4 Suspects behind the door
Bowling kind of shenanigans
Yep, 1 for me, I'd carry a wedge but I have 5 5.56 mags on me
A STRIKE!
C2 is really useful on ANA, they usually they always play dead after it
Noted
Still haven't touched Boiling Point yet
Entry Team to TOC, I just hit a Suspect Strike 
good luck 
like sometimes we try lure them into breaching, and when they stacked, we just blow the doors and they play dead
which is very convenient
no need to shout at them, and easy cuffing
oh yeah C2ing the Suspect breaches is huge
you can ask Full Metal for more info
he is the goat with who im attempting the Hard S
saw this man detonate the detonator trying to secure it
SHUSH
Go back to your other shenanigans, Ker 
Yea after these developers OPTIMIZE THE GAME TO THE EXTREMES
its ok i nearly did the same when the fucker moved as i was defusing
I mean the performance mods do well, but still
C2 must make your PC explode too 
fuck it
optimize ron to be 5 gigs
We all did that on first attempts ā¤ļøāš©¹
SO ITāS NOT JUST ME
I thought itād be like any other thing as evidence where we have to secure it
clicked on it

Right???
Ker was clowning on me for that before 
Not at all! It's reloading the G18C
We were in Neon Tomb and Kerās like āwhy didnāt you defuse the vestsā (right after the Boiling Point update), and I was saying how that wasnāt possible before
nice addition but flew so under the radar
yeah i found it weird too
why wasnt in base game
would of prevented incidents of stray bullets tanking ranks
question- does the team AI shoot their launchers in firefights or no? since 2 of them died and im not sure if they died since they dont shoot, or they died since they were probably not looking.. (asking since i love launchers but im tryna S rank so idk if i should switch to pepperball)
It is in the game. It just was not utilized
Since the SWAT AI could actually get stuck mid animation in defusing these bombs
oh alright thank you for the information
What do yall say is the best officer trait in the game? I'd say kicker
Removing the need for the ram, freeing a slot for mirror or launcher
Armorer and veteran
hot take: a lot of the hated missions are hated because of ONE thing, not because they are unfun
take valley of the dolls, pretty hated map. BUT ITS FUN AS HELL
open space and 2 taps with full health
i like the maps the only one o dont is a new america
Pacifier
gangalangs.. imma attempt to S rank some maps.. do yall got tips for a non-lethal loadout? running light armor with launchers (might switch to pepperball or somt.. idk..) my squad also got wedges
a mission is "unresolved" for me but i can continue, AND i completed it (with a E rank i think)
Negotiator
#š®ron-discussion message
Pacifier, armorer and nutritionist too, any other trait is useless imo
Dude, kicker is not useless
Only if you have no other traits
Same, yesterday I tried it again solo with stab vest for more slots and I got to 22nd floor but I had only 2 shots left in taser, I had used all my 18 flash ammo, I managed to get 1 with taser at the top of the stairs but the 2nd one killed me, the extra slots were nice for some wedges and taser and tbh I took some shots here and there and didn't die. So I'm not sure if armor is doing anything for protection on that map with their high damage weapons lol and sometimes they shoot so fast you die instantly anyways.
I had 16/24 for context when I died
Yeah and actually being faster made me get to cover quicker and actually saved me more
I'm currently out but will be home very soon
alr
I actually have no idea how I will clear greased palms on my Ironman run
I am only worried about 2 levels, the Amazon warehouse and port Hokan
Which one is port hokan?
Hide and seek
Last one
I cant even remember that mission
how do you clear stairs? I'm on lethal obsession, and with low vis and the need to go slow, I'm not sure how to order my team around. I also don't feel confident clearing a room myself from a center fed staircase, particularly going upstairs.
Which one is lethal obsession again?
stack up
the one with just 3 suspects including gerard scott
Cabin in the woods
What you guys think are we gonna get another patch soon š¤
FIRE IN THE HOLE
Basically
Just throw flashbangs
im 99% sure that a new america is just a test for pvp. Because why the f are they breaching against us??
i just keep only my head above the stairs and quickly check all sides, or just toss a bang of frag up there
Id use a flash launcher, since the detonation is instant, in contrast of flashbang
And flashbang can bounce back to you
Speaking from experience
flash launcher removes your primary
Thats on your 5, right?
Because MLO members are former military, SWAT et cetera
neon tomb is a mission worse than twisted nerve and rust belt combined
Greased palms
we dont talk about that
I know, but I didnt expect them to literally breach against us. I just expected them to be good fighters
They kicked doors in and threw a flash
id rather have to complete greased palms 5 times back to back and each death sends you back to 0 missions completed than play neon tomb with only 10 chemlights
why cant we give up a slot for example 10 or 20 chemlights? I NEED MORE CHEMLIGHTS I CANT REMEMBER WHICH ROOMS I CLEARED
I dont even use chemlights
i mark all doors that lead into 2 other doors so i dont run through the same stuff 3 times
And, you can make your ai mates deploy chemlights. Default: Command menu > 5 > 5
it's the first one with serious booby traps
I've had this game for a while, but I'm suddenly getting way into it. first time play through.
pro tip: order squadmates to drop chemlights
instructions unclear, throw chemlight and clear
deploy - chemlight
Accurate LSPD SWAT reaction
I've died in so many unique ways this morning in spite of actually trying hard to not die
Via: Command menu > 5 > 5
and it's given me an insane amount of respect for this game
Isnāt 5 mirror
I had the game open, command menu 5 5 is default chemlight
regular 5 is things like shield, mirror, ram
Reguler 4 is things like lockpick
is buy cheap, buy twice a good or bad mission?
music goes hard
ok
AI is not that hard
good music: less hesitation to go "if it moves, it needs a mag"
they have strong guns (i think some have G3 or FALs)
Surely AKMs
3 points of interest: car dealership, garage and parking lot
yes
The only mission Iād willingly do this on is ANA
how to delete hunger strike from the games files?
Its 50/50
That place is now full of cartel members, even the Wiki page has been edited.

what
doesnt make sense
its the mafia spot isnt it
Anyone wanna play 13+ tactical and any mission
Literally
Greased Palms with the conveyer area and what else what else
They added some cartel member models after the DLC 3 update. Their tattoos give them away.
Their eye tattoos, arm tattoos and neck tattoos all belong to Los Locos
I just realised there is an achievement for doing a new america solo on hard mode
WTF
lmao
Not even with ai teammates
yea lol, idk what they were thinking when they came up with it lol
they wanted to make 100% way harder for us lol
They're just bullies for that
To be honest, though, I donāt understand why VOID changed the storyline involving the car dealershipļ¼perhaps it was to illustrate Los Locos and the Spider Organisation are closely linked.
#šØron-screenshots-and-art message @sharp lagoon detonator for c2
oh thank you
you're welcome
ive not played for a while so im trying to remb the controls and what stuff is..
ah i see, welcome back!
e y e?
they got eyelid tats
interesting,Blade skull and strange lettering tattoo on his neck are all distinctive features of Cartel.
wat
Can you equip a gas mask? I heard my ai teammates say to put on a gas mask after i triggered a gas trap
no
Oh
yea but not mid mission, in loadout section
Anybody know how FISA plays a role in the whole human trafficking part of Hide and Seek? I just recently completed that optional objective for the first time and im just curious about the lore.
Does it work?
yeah it makes you immune to the gas in boiling point
Great
well yea ofc, it's good against, not just the toxic gas, but also for CS gas, pepperballs, etc...
What I mean is, although VOID doesnāt explicitly state which tattoos belong to Los Locos, we can identify them from the details. The razor blade and skull designs indicate that they are members of Los Locos. As for the āLLPā tattoo on his neck, Iāve seen that in the Rust Belt too.
Great!
At the car dealership, some of the suspects not only spoke Spanish, but their tattoos also matched these characteristics
But it could've been just cosmetic, hence my question
oh i couldnt see the balaclava guys tattoo so i thought it was eyelid tattoos
@crude prism does SWAT bots takes damage from gas damage in the pier mission?
yeah no worries, nothing wrong with asking š
they immune to cs gas and pepperballs but not the toxic gas, so they need gas mask for the toxic gas
ah alright, would be mad funny if they're also immune to the toxic gas.
yea lol
well at least they made gas mask usable for bots again tbh XD, ballistic mask was the meta and a no brainer for them before XD
Can i accomplish the missions alone without the ai ?
yes
Host a closed multiplayer lobby
guys i think i have a problem
i dowloaded some mods and my entire account was cleared if someone have advice what should i do dm me
Anm s rank was the most painful thing Iāve ever done.
Its not mentioned in the game itself but there's a lot of theories on what theyre doing with the women.
The most believable one at least imo is that they're probably hunting down this trafficking ring and they know way more about it than the LSPD and when the FISA agent mentions he's sending a team to take care of it, likely they're gonna use it to track down the people involved in the ring, they're just doing it in a way that is clearly questionable in terms of morality
Alr thanks for the info
4 bots with flash grenade launchers go brrr
itās not even that bc I tend to play maps solo I didnāt even know until about my 5th run of the map about the infrared lasers that tell the ai ur exact location
but itās defo the hardest map in the game by a long shot
I donāt get how the bank and pier can be so easy and then the final dlc map be that frustrating
Isnāt that good?
A breath of fresh air?
Most of the levels can hardly be called challenging
its good when they challenging, but not borderline impossible
Hard S ana
Yeah, but at this point, I have nothing else to do
As I have all achievements (Except programmed psychosis and my eyes it burns), and all other Hard S
And when time came to start doing Hard S on Ana, I was terrified
They are too busted
Be me
in a pub lobby.
struggle with " new america mission"
actually clears everything and succeed in bringing order to chaos
all my teammates are dead. was sole survivor
some missing hostage
found 1 but not the other
gets frustrated host leaves lobby closes. I didn't even get a grade on this mission
Pain
this is why i never play public
Someone needs to make a mod that outlines last hostage/suspect
if im not wrong, if you brought order to chaos (neutralized or restrain all suspect), the civies will come to you
yet that didn't ####ing happen
Matafaka
I played the same map for 5 fuckin hours
I learned to clear 2nd floor like the back of my hand and 3rd floor with some competency
4th was a stretch because ai had to focus on teammates
Sometimes ai bugs out and it doesn't do anything
All that for nothing
I had to check everything myself in greased palms
Like twice
And wasn't able to find civs too
I wanna break down
this sometimes happens too often
have anyone gotten the "the heat is on" achievement yet?
i have finished the mission many times but somehow it just won't give me the achievement
my ai teammates has armor and no i didn't use grenades
i think its bc of AI armor
but i saw a guide that has their AIs armored
i'm gonna lose my mind over this achievement lol
that would be much appreciate
no
then i'll have to to restart my game
ok see if you can join
it just says that you in Ready or Not
you can just add me, and delete after if needed
"unable to join modded session"
Check your settings for modded lobbies
and turn them off
nvm im here
How do I do hard greased palms they take hostages and ruin every run Iām so done
My ai swat cant even throw flashbangs through some doorways
i dont suppose anyone knows if there is a content creator/press pack full of RON's logos and DLC Logos etc? thanks
If they keep taking hostages the best thing to do is to arrest civilians last, dont arrest them until you bring order to chaos
let them roam, but if possible try to get them to surrender with like 1 or 2 commands
or media asset packs
I know if you look around the discord theres some stuff you can find, or use google and a transparent image maker
thanks. ive got as much as i can without having the pack, i know the partners get the media assett, i'll keep searching. would level up my content greatly
i finally got around doing the s rank on AnA
and i gotta say
this gave me less information about the lore than blowing up gotham city
Current bug
They are just tired doing ANA over and over and over again
so whenn did they add where gerald could fucking teleport
why has all my progess just been reset
bread wsg
sup
i cant use gifs i forgor
good evening lads, quick question:
i'm thinking about downgrading the game to before they censored a bunch of maps, like twisted nerve and that one with the container full of naked girls. I think this might be a better first experience for my friend.
BUT, i don't know if they added too much content ever since, since i haven't played in a while.
Do you guys think it would be a better or worse experience?
Get the "Uncensored Or Not" mod and you're good to go on current build
Does anyone know if ''Beat Cop'' achievement works on Multiplayer? been doing it 2 times with 2 officers and it dosn't pop after completion. While doing what the description told us to do
unless you downgrade the game to pre-release i dont think anything past release is better before the patches and dlcs came out
they have generally improved the game
Just bought RoN on pc
Am i in for a good time?
Seems like a yes to me 
i will elaborate no further
Why is game not recording anymore my missions after 7 april? The replay is enabled.
we finna beat a new america with just battering rams
Kill everyone
When is the funeral for your mental stability?
Deploy a 9 bang

theyāre supposed to but most of the time either they donāt or theyāre seemingly unable to catch up to you wandering around looking for them
HELP! On boiling point last mission - Can I clear the 4th floor without the countdown starting - and then hit the JAMMER before going into the final room!?!
Trying to buy as much time as needed
yes thatās the meta
thank goodness
donāt let the flower guy see you donāt go into the court room
on hard only one final floor to go so I want to get it right
and everyones alive xD its a mircale..
guys hi did any of you get the achievement "my eyes it burns" because I couldn't do it maybe it's because I had to disable them instead of killing them but it's still hard because the screen is shaking if anyone did it, please tell me how you did it
also if a civ is already surrendered on the ground but not cuffed, they wont get up to find you nor will they respond to shouts. i spent 10 mins looking for a civ in ANA just to find a guy surrendered in a bathroom stall cause my ai cleared it but didnt cuff the guy
andd I died to a bomb... wow