👮ron-discussion

[bitter mason]

I've never had a suspect shoot without seeing me first, unless its at a door I kicked
Theres really not a whole lot of excuse for the tracking through the wall because it can get real bad
I moved passed a doorway on one of the sheds on twisted nerve and saw a suspect, he instantly started shooting me and tracked me through the wall, he moved to the side which blocked his LOS of the door way, I moved the opposite way back past the opening and he continued to track me perfectly through the door that was blocking his sight

[onyx swift]

well well well

[last dawn]

they literally shoot back after they unstagger bro might as well finish the job

[onyx swift]

I’ve seen a Suspect shoot me while still turning around before, on Hard

[last dawn]

bro got hiko'd

[bronze thistle]

Hard is the way to go

[onyx swift]

I mean like the bullets literally had to curve out of the barrel to hit me

[bitter mason]

yeah its definitely worse on hard
void doesnt know how to make it actually challenging so they just make everything artificially BS

[onyx swift]

One time I also died in under like 4 seconds of spawning in, on A Lethal Obsession for Hard

Spawned in

Walked a few steps
Died from a Suspect instantly

[last dawn]

clear your corners smh

[onyx swift]

[bitter mason]

clearly you are playing like its cod

you gotta go slow they heard your footsteps

[last dawn]

they got eavesdrop pro

[onyx swift]

Don’t get me wrong, I have a lot of S Ranks on Hard and some even with Beanbag still, but WOW

[loud whale]

Just got the new DLC, fuck me the performance on the first level is atrocious

[signal crow]

Is there a difference between full coverage and only front and back, when using heavy armor? Or is there practically no reason to use only front back on heavy?

[craggy fable]

Agreed

That’s why it’s my least favorite.

The other 2 levels are well optimized tho, at least for me

[bitter mason]

heavy is a bit stronger im pretty sure

[craggy fable]

Pretty sure full is the same as front/back

[bitter mason]

maybe not actually

[loud whale]

Its similar to when the hospital level came out, if you went into a room that had balloons, it'd tank the fps to like 5 until you shot the balloons

[signal crow]

alrr ty

[craggy fable]

Yeah I remember that 💔💔

The games optimization has gotten better tho compared to a long time ago

Besides the new carnival map, it’s terrible 🥀

[loud whale]

Im gonna skip the carnival map, it's a shitshow tbh

[craggy fable]

Agreed

[loud whale]

Also the arrest animations at least for me seem bugged? I go to arrest and the suspect warps to my feet and there's no actual arrest animation, they're automatically tied up

[craggy fable]

What the freak, I’ve never seen that

Does it happen in every map or just a certain map?

[loud whale]

I'll have to try a different map where suspects actually surrender, may have just been carnival

[craggy fable]

Oki

Carnival map is so silly

I’d be surprised if it’s someone’s favorite map. Looks wise sure, but gameplay wise…it kinda sucks

[worldly patio]

#🎨ron-screenshots-and-art

[craggy fable]

What the freak

[loud whale]

Man, that one pre-1.0 version where the AI was actually normal... and actually complied to shouts/non-lethal properly

[modest hare]

Is that the game Done or will there be more updates or DLC Just for to ask

[craggy fable]

Deadahh. Now they are just clueless

It’s very rare that they actually do what you want them to

[junior drift]

Does anyone have the seal of the LSPD? i need it for something

[loud whale]

Game now just plays like Ground Branch but with SWAT

[craggy fable]

Is Ground Branch any good

[prisma tusk]

its alr

[bitter mason]

I enjoy it, the best bit about it is its customisation.

[winged sandal]

@hallow badger is the bandana in your screenshot a mod?

[loud whale]

Customisation is good but with no friendly AI, apart from a very basic campaign map, doing the maps solo just feels lifeless

[craggy fable]

Interesting

[bitter mason]

if it ever goes on sale for cheap I'd say might aswell try it. idk how much it goes on sale tho

[wintry barn]

Omg i finally made the Heat is On achievement

[cedar mulch]

Is there a cartel in Port? I seem to recall a bloke who didn’t look Russian.

[bitter mason]

Theres a few hispanic suspects I think
most of the suspects are russian tho

[cedar mulch]

Yes, but I don’t know why VOID has stuffed so many cartel members into both the car dealership and the port. The Mafia has even vanished from the car dealership.

[bitter mason]

they just changed up the story on the car dealership to have it be ran by the cartel working with the russian mobsters
I do kinda miss them being mostly russian tho

[wintry barn]

Now i need tips for programed psychosis

I run shotgun and many utilities but AI is so broke, i dont even have time to kill the suspects

[gloomy fern]

guys do you know how to add friends in ready or not on steam? I got the game connected to my epic games but the game is running from steam

[cedar mulch]

Taking into account their actual appearances, Los Locos have at least seven maps. That’s far more than any other faction.

[knotty storm]

although you shouldnt stop larping whenever shooting down suspects

dont use helmet

[urban salmon]

i swear psycho runs are easier than normal ones

[fair canyon]

Why's there a teddy bear with a bomb inside of it in the station 😭

[bitter mason]

they are

[visual mortar]

Like the police patch?

[junior drift]

And the mlo patch

[craggy fable]

For Programmed psychosis, does the rank I get matter? Or can I just go in and kill everyone, as long as I complete it

[visual mortar]

Ik I saw that too
Idk why people aren’t like
Mentioning it

[glass heart]

Just complete it

Kill everyone on sight except HVT

[craggy fable]

That’s the trigger man right

[glass heart]

Ye

[craggy fable]

Oki

So I still have to defuse the bomb, but I can kill everyone else?

[glass heart]

Ya

The other suspects dont matter

[craggy fable]

oki

[glass heart]

So blast em :3

[craggy fable]

Will attempt it when I get back home

Am on side quest, then I get breakfast

[glass heart]

Gl with it!

[craggy fable]

Thank you

[visual mortar]

Farty or not

[craggy fable]

Ready or fart

[visual mortar]

Couldn’t find the mlo patch but I sent you the lspd

[cedar mulch]

You know, they must have quite a few models stashed away that they haven’t used.

[bitter mason]

yea
idk if they'll be used in a dlc tho

no clue what the next dlc will be about

[cedar mulch]

I think it’s a spider. Because they haven’t been seen for over two years.

[covert thicket]

i havent been up to date with the RON lore
why are there riots outside the police station?

[hexed escarp]

mk ultra terrorists shot up a pier while in cop uniforms so the whole city is full of anarchists now

part of the new DLC

[covert thicket]

ahhh understood!

[upper halo]

those terrorists are part of the MLO right?

[hardy marlin]

why does no one use the f90 its so good

[rocky plover]

it's one of the best 5.56

[verbal jacinth]

Cuz .300 blackout exists

[hardy marlin]

i think people just have a problem with bullpups cause i dont see anyone using it

[wide verge]

Ive been playing a few missions with the mcx. feels very good. Honestly you can make any 5.56 work for any map

[rocky plover]

mcx is also very good

[wide verge]

I hate bullpups

[hardy marlin]

.300 blackout can struggle with range cause it has a bit more recoil

[wide verge]

.300 blackout is excellent for missions like sins of the father. tight spaces, armored suspects

[hardy marlin]

ive seen people claim the gun is bad in game for being a bullpup, insane hate toward bullpups

[wide verge]

they probably work just as well I just hate it visually and from a design standpoint

[hardy marlin]

that is entirely fair

i like em, a lot of people dont like the ergonomics

which is also fair

and always remember: the p90 is a bullpup

[wide verge]

yeah Ive trained with british troops back in the day and shooting the L85 for a week straight was not fun

[hardy marlin]

well yeah l85 sucks ass

thats not a bullpup issue thats a most of the parts are very cheap

issue

[wide verge]

I just don't see the upside for myself using a bullpup

[hardy marlin]

the have longer barrels while still having a very short profile

but i do get not liking bullpups cause you dont like how they look

[wide verge]

I didn't like the G36 much either but it did the job and was quite versatile

[hardy marlin]

yeah, g36's trunyon is made of plastic, and it tends to melt

[wide verge]

those are the common complaints. some adaptions like switching optics helped a lot

[hardy marlin]

and the trunyon keeps the barrel in place

[craggy fable]

I got my chocolate milk, I think I’m locked in for programmed psychosis (when I get home)

[hard hound]

Yo I was wondering if yall had any solutions or ideas for this problem

I have gone through and S ranked every map

But the medal of valor shows 16/18

And I don’t know which ones it didn’t count

I have all the tattoos

And it shows in menus standard s or hard

[hardy marlin]

do them all again

[wide verge]

strange

[hardy marlin]

also type in whole sentences

[hard hound]

mb

I rlly dont wanna do them all again 🙁

[quaint cave]

Same happened for me on the left behind achievements, all 4 c+ but stuck at 75%, Redone all 4 on c+ and made no difference. Don't waste your time redoing 😆

[pseudo hull]

the hermit has been obtained

[latent patrol]

Do you know if VOID is going to rework the AI team movement?

[wooden tapir]

best sidearm?

[loud whale]

question, the non carnival maps of the new DLC, do they need gas mask or was that just for the carnival? Dont wanna switch back to anti-flash goggles to find out there's gas

[wide verge]

the new 2011 has high map capacity and very low recoil. glock 18 has 24 round mag

[hoary comet]

you need it but way less than on the pier

[wide verge]

there are gas canisters which leak gas if theyre shot on the other maps

[loud whale]

Ah ok cool, thanks

[wide verge]

never used gas mask on bank or a new america and it was fine

[hoary comet]

^

shot placement

[echo fog]

Guys is the new DLC worth the purchase and money?

[smoky cedar]

ANA and bank have pipes but there are no gas grenades or gas backpacks like Pier

[wide verge]

honestly using cs gas yourself is good for the bank tho

[hoary comet]

most worth out of all of them

[wide verge]

yes. 100%

[smoky cedar]

For ANA just bring NVG because of the IR laser sensors

[hoary comet]

there are gas traps depending on your difficulty on a new america iirc

the gas is pretty lackluster though, you can low ready away from it

[craggy fable]

W

[loud whale]

May have found the cause of my performance issues...playing on 1440 instead of 1080p 😂

My 1660 Super ain't ready for that 1440p

[wide scaffold]

Do we know if there's going to be shotgun with a silencer?

[rocky plover]

they're already the best weapons in game lol, would make them even more op

[wide scaffold]

Like atleast one shotgun with a silencer

[rocky plover]

hmm maybe, if they find a way to make it 'balanced' lol

[wide scaffold]

Imagine no country for old men x ready or not with that iconic remington 11-87

[strong fox]

Supressors don't really do much, there'd be no reason to add one to a shotgun

[rocky plover]

true, but it will be op for stress mechanics

[wide scaffold]

I saw someone make a pretty silent shotgun irl

[strong fox]

?? Kicking down a door is as loud as an unsupressed gun, it really doesn't matter. Nothing is "op" for anything other than blowing an arm off

[wide scaffold]

Should be useful for more silent approach

[strong fox]

If youre running a supressor but kicking doors, its counterproductive

[wide scaffold]

Well don't kick doors then?

Like what

[rocky plover]

exactly lol ^

[strong fox]

Point is, suppressing a shotgun doesn't make it "op", this isn't an arcade game

[wide scaffold]

Why not tho?

[rocky plover]

thing is shotguns are already the best thing, so making them being able to take suppressors as well will make it even better - that's what I meant

[wide scaffold]

Do we have slug shotguns in the game?

[wide verge]

Yes

You can choose buckshot or slugs

[rocky plover]

that is only if you know how to work around the stress mechanics, if you don't then it might be useless for you

[wide scaffold]

Aight thanks

[strong fox]

This is just one big circle. Like I said, supressors dont do much. They only decrease your hearing range by 15 meters, but in the small ass maps we have, it literally doesn't matter

You're handicapping yourself with extra barrel lenght

[wide scaffold]

I find it strange that we have supernova shotgun and in r6 it has a suppressor but in ron it doesn't

[rocky plover]

see you even got that wrong as well - classic misinformation

suppressed and unsuppressed is same range, but you're missing out on stress mechanics per shot

[wide scaffold]

Wouldn't it be like useful in bigger maps like elephant or the postal service one?

[cloud rampart]

but the stress mechanics make integrated suppressors useless

bc integrated suppressors do nothing

[rocky plover]

yea, sadly the integrated ones still count as "loud" for stress

idk if it's intended or not

[rocky plover]

it's 20m for both btw, except A New America which is 50m

[strong fox]

Whats ana??

Also, yelling is insanely loud to. Don't tell me you play every mission without yelling

[rocky plover]

ofc it's loud as well even though it has less range, but that wasn't the point really

[balmy patio]

Doesnt friendly fire ignore the damage hard cap

Which is why you get one shot by buckshot

[strong fox]

Toting the supressor as some god tier item is super dumb

[rocky plover]

we never said that xD but anyways you clearly can't read i guess

[strong fox]

You said "op" atleast 4 times

[rocky plover]

to shotguns not suppressors

[strong fox]

And thay supressors made them even more "op"

[rocky plover]

well ofc combined

[rich quartz]

What do you guys think void could do to make s rank you know actually realistic instead of you going in fully non lethal and taking every suspect alive

[rocky plover]

A-B is the realistic score, S is just for challenges etc..

[wintry adder]

how long do you guys think will it take me to achieve " programmed psychosis " on steam

[prisma tusk]

yes

[rocky plover]

😂

[wintry adder]

how long ?

[smoky cedar]

a long time from today

[formal flume]

Good answer!

[rocky plover]

that's up to the individual bruh, can take from 1 try to 100000 tries

[molten prairie]

I’ll settle for a solid C on Hard.

Buckshot first, questions never.

[rocky plover]

ye C is fine as well

[rocky plover]

sounds about right lol

[smoky cedar]

C-B really. SWAT wouldn’t pick up evidence irl

[rocky plover]

yea you all got my point anyways

[vale plume]

It’ll have a new upgrade soon

[urban mural]

Btw I got way out of west achievement yesterday.

[wintry adder]

i think il be fine

[rocky plover]

nice, good luck

[dawn solstice]

I'm still trying to hit b on VOD

[urban mural]

Maybe securing the guns they probably would to avoid others from picking them?

[dawn solstice]

We love VOD its such a good map...

[wintry adder]

thx

[dawn solstice]

It's layout is engraved into my mind

[smoky cedar]

Maybe take the mag out and rack it. I can't imagine anyone tossing it into an evidence bag and then leaving it on the floor though

[wide scaffold]

How do i avoid suspects taking civilians hostage and killing them?

[smoky cedar]

Don't stress the suspects out as much

Higher the stress the more likely they are to kill the civs or themselves

[wide scaffold]

How do i need stress them?

[strong fox]

You dont, unfortunately. If a suspect is near a civvie when they're alerted, you're cooked

[cedar mulch]

Shayne might have stopped doing RON. It’s been a long time.

[wide scaffold]

I'm doing i don't give a fuck about S run so i slime out every suspect i see

[smoky cedar]

I do use of force runs but completely disregard evidence

[rocky plover]

kill the civs yes, but themselves that's dependant on morale and not stress

[smoky cedar]

I am not a ron geek i just play the game so

[urban mural]

You can't avoid a suspect taking a civvie hostage, the only way to save the hostage is to avoid getting too close and don't let your AI teammates deal with it, they don't care about the hostage. Either headshot the hostage taker or toss a flashbang or a stun grenade.

[dawn solstice]

Drop em quick drop em quiet

[wide scaffold]

I tossed a flashbanged and civilian died

[smoky cedar]

What

[grim seal]

i am 99% sure hunger strike is bugged with how bloodthirsty the cartel is for civilian flesh

[smoky cedar]

They shoot everyone up because the owner didnt pay a debt iirc

[wide scaffold]

Yeah im not sure how tf did that happen but it did

[rocky plover]

either shooting them first before they shoot the hostage or use less lethal utility but avoid gas as that will increase their stress

[urban mural]

Turn the subtitles on, you will know if the suspect is hit.

[dawn solstice]

Also if you wanna get easy shot on suspects aim between there head and shoulder most of the time you'll graze there shoulder and make em flinch

At worse then you don't kill the civ and only incap em to

For hostage taker shots

[wide scaffold]

I already have subtitles on that doesn't help

[grim seal]

it took me like 3 hours to get S on hard and i had to give my ai all flash/gas launchers and pray for good rng

[urban mural]

My strategy that worked for me on lethal run, enter through the side parking lot, make 1 queue team c2 the door, use launcher and clear, than place the other team to queue the other door the same make them execute the command and go clean upstairs yourself.

This is one way how I avoided civilian casualties.

[wide scaffold]

Flash/gas launchers are op for S ranks

[grim seal]

idk how u guys manage to command ur ai so well, maybe i just suck but even if i tell them to clear or restrain a guy they just stand there and get shot in the balls

[wide scaffold]

Flash launchers are only good when you give it to ai's since you don't get penalties if they accidentally hit allies

[grim seal]

actual grenade launcher when

[urban mural]

Sometimes they are dumb. The AI teammates got a lot of bugs and issues in their tactics and behaviour.

[wide scaffold]

Isn't using greanade launchers like a warcrime?

Tha shit can't be legal

[grim seal]

dumb is an understatement. my ai are like actual single cellular organisms

[grim seal]

how many ppl do we typically leave alive at voll house

[urban mural]

The AI teammates behaviour makes me be mad at them like when one single guy just decides to go around the map solo. Idk sometimes I see them do it.

[smoky cedar]

Someone needs to make that a mod

[smoky cedar]

However many people are in the map - 1

[urban mural]

I make Voll stand on knees and make sure he goes up for a fight so I can get the chance to shoot him.

I don't make the AI teammates cuff him.

[dawn solstice]

I hate how I have to arrest Voll for the b rank

[urban mural]

S rank and after the other times you blast every security detail.

[dawn solstice]

I keep dieing in basement

Idk why but basement seems to get me a lot

[urban mural]

Use door wedges and pie doors and check corners.

[dawn solstice]

I do do that I just usually am half dead by time I get there

One time I got last suspect and my shotgun missed

At point blank with a slug

[urban mural]

I don't use shotguns much unless is a beanbang for an S rank. I use the SA58 mostly.

[smoky cedar]

Because most of the rooms are center fed and have cover

Hard to clear a room without a grenade when you have this many dead corners in just 1 room

[dawn solstice]

I like a few of the smgs with iron sights

[smoky cedar]

Beanbag is cheeks imo

If you have the launcher then use it

[dawn solstice]

The mp7 I think it is with irons is chefe kiss

[grim seal]

launcher is def better but beanbags are way more ammo efficient i think for huge maps like new america

[tacit gull]

ana has a resupply at the end so that doesn't mean anything lmao

[grim seal]

wait what

[tacit gull]

its like the only map where it might be an issue

but it isnt because you just get all ammo back

[grim seal]

where is it i didnt know FUUUUCK

[rocky plover]

yea true, but you could skip a few rooms/floors and get to the ammo re supply as quick as you can

[tacit gull]

its right next to the elevators at the end

[grim seal]

i didnt know there was a resupply i was suffering for no reason fml

[tacit gull]

prog psychosis is a joke with a g18 and a flash launcher

[rocky plover]

behind the spiral staircase as soon as you're all the way up, right side when facing the courtroom

[grim seal]

ok well i know now at least

i kept running out of ammo and i thougjt i just sucked

[dawn solstice]

I've never had the problem of zero ammo

[grim seal]

i love 7.62 but im sad it can no longer 1 shot any armor on hard like 12 gague

[rocky plover]

i had to clear the bottom spiral staircase area with taser one time, cos i had ran out of launcher ammo lmao but I was solo without AI, that's why

[cedar oasis]

Added another colt pistol devs are fucking idiots, trash am car scar weapons pathetic shi

[grim seal]

yeah u run out of ammo so much faster when ur by urself

[rocky plover]

that was when I had 10 suspects on the first floor

[smoky cedar]

I love my staccato

[urban mural]

If their back is turned 1 bullet in the head.

[rocky plover]

😂

[wintry adder]

Why do i play against Spetznas

[grim seal]

isnt mkv like pretty much a deagle

[urban mural]

A new America? Some of those guys are most likely USIA military unit. Idk tho, in that map the suspects are different where some look like normal thugs and others that are heavily equipped.

[wintry adder]

https://tenor.com/view/thousand-yard-stare-amazing-grace-shell-shock-war-meme-meme-gif-860362854430789581

[smoky cedar]

No they're the MLO, long story short its a group of crackheads who were USIA agents and they got illegally experimented on to make them supersoldiers or whatever, it failed, they rebelled, and now they are terrorists seeking revenge on the government

[dawn solstice]

Judge is theorized to be a MLO plant.

Fun fact

[cedar oasis]

idc i hate that devs adds fucking colt 3-4 times in row again fuck them they would better added Deagle, or any other weapon but not same shit with custom modifiers

[smoky cedar]

He IS, no? He used to be in the USIA iirc

[smoky cedar]

MKV shoots 50 ae just like a deagle no?

[dawn solstice]

I only know the theory of he is perhaps MLO it's not like a guaranteed thing though

[smoky cedar]

Idk much though, if you want more MLO spooky talk go to #🪹the-sepulchre-arg

[urban mural]

Yeah but there are guys with flowers symbol, guys with vest and skull mask, guys with caps and black jacket and some other few guys.

[smoky cedar]

The flower guys are MLO

Every suspect in the attacks are MLO except the guys on the bank they're just protesters

[gentle python]

It's an LAR Grizzly Win Mag Mark V, not a Desert Eagle :)

[grim seal]

hence "pretty much"

[gentle python]

I mean, if pretty much means that a Deagle can be .50AE (like the Grizzly) then yeah ig

[grim seal]

also its easier to say deagle than allat

[gentle python]

But they're different platforms, by different companies

[gentle python]

Yeah fair, my self-diagnosed gun-tism just gets a little annoyed lol

[dawn solstice]

I honestly never notice difference with the pistols in this game

Other than like the revolver and the mk5

[cedar oasis]

So you don't have problem if they add Minigun but it will look like fucking trash piece of shit colt alike?

[gentle python]

G18C lol

[smoky cedar]

They are all just about the same except the 5-7 is better at piercing armor and also has the biggest mag out of all the pistols except the new g18

[gentle python]

Yeah that

[smoky cedar]

What kind of analogy is that dude

[grim seal]

if im president all 9mm pistols will be called glocks and anything shooting 5.56 will be called an ar 15 regardless of who manufactured it

[smoky cedar]

First off void would NEVER add a minigun and also that would just kill the game

[grim seal]

and arizona tea will be 7.99

[cedar oasis]

cuz they are useless against armored suspects

[smoky cedar]

Everyone running around with a fucking minigun in every map is bound to destroy the game

Because then there isn't a challenge

[cedar oasis]

you have that analogy

[gentle python]

Love that for you

[dawn solstice]

Nah rock em with ap rounds you can get through some armor

You just have to be a bit more specific with where you place your shots

[chilly dock]

I hate it when im trying to look for the last suspect and I can't find them anywhere 😠

[cedar oasis]

yeah blud ofc they will just kill you faster than that, but if you about aiming head ofc it will be dead

[chilly dock]

What do I do?

[dawn solstice]

Are you telling me you can't hit three shots with your pistol before they shoot you?

[cedar oasis]

Check every room, close every door, they can't close doors only open them

[chilly dock]

I've done that, is it some kind of bug?

[smoky cedar]

Run around the map yelling your lungs out. Eventually you'll hear them yell back or run at you

[dawn solstice]

Like sure pistols ain't perfect they a lil bad but you can take people down with em if you play em right

[glacial solstice]

Start blastin

[cedar oasis]

Nah u didnt checked everything or didnt reported some suspects

[smoky cedar]

Make a lot of noise

[chilly dock]

Ok thanks

[cedar oasis]

Are u telling me full auto guns are slower than pistols?

[smoky cedar]

Are you telling me you're a slow clicker

In ready or not it absolutely matters who shoots first

[cedar oasis]

Yeah try pistol run on New america and tell me how u succeeded in solo

[smoky cedar]

Full auto has more RPM than a pistol yes but if you light him up first you might live

[dawn solstice]

Yee like I can drop someone with a pistol as quick as I can drop someone with a full auto

[cedar oasis]

or Hide n seek

or Hospital map

[smoky cedar]

When was the incentive ever to use a pistol on a terrorist map

[cedar oasis]

Ofc blud go solo on that maps and try it only pistol

[smoky cedar]

Yeah dude no shit you just listed off terrorist missions and said you can't beat them with only a pistol

[dawn solstice]

Sure I'll go pistol run some maps and have fun with it

[cedar oasis]

And there u are can't use a pistol against them

[smoky cedar]

You can, hardly any of them have head protection

But their weapon is what matters you have a pistol and they have a machine gun

[cedar oasis]

And what did i said ealier?

[smoky cedar]

They are obviously going to finish you off in the first shot especially in close range which is why you should shoot first

[cedar oasis]

about full auto

[smoky cedar]

Hence ^

[smoky cedar]

Actually there's an achievement for that

[cedar oasis]

Its absolutely doesnt matter cuz they can tank 3 shots or full mag just cuz of high difficulty

[smoky cedar]

For using only a melee, taser and flashbangs on hide & seek

[cedar oasis]

And its broken

I killed suspect with F90 and got achievement just mid run

[smoky cedar]

But you didn't do the achievement legitimately did you

How does that even prove anything

[cedar oasis]

Like i do footage of bugs with knowing before when it happens

I just got it for killing suspect thats all

[smoky cedar]

That isn't what I'm asking

[cedar oasis]

This game is fucking bugged blud

[smoky cedar]

The badge asks you to do it with only a melee, flashbang and taser and you used a gun and you were just telling me that it was a glitch

Someone literally JUST got it in #💬general-discussion

[cedar oasis]

They still didnt fixed weapons evidence dissapearance

[smoky cedar]

Then go in #1050535723087958156

[wide scaffold]

Depends, but if we kill all the suspects that's just self defense

[molten wasp]

Finally got S rank on ANA through PC

[wide scaffold]

Is ANA a dlc map?

[rocky plover]

Boiling point dlc - 3rd mission

[wintry adder]

54 tries so far ^^

[rocky plover]

Damn, sounds about right though 😅

Good luck though don't give up!

You'll get it eventually

[carmine spruce]

Ng

Ermmmmmm wtf

[wintry adder]

they talk to much for me a bit

[molten wasp]

yep

[wintry adder]

I wont but man its realy hard on hard mode

[rocky plover]

Yea it's annoying still trying to S rank it on hard, but it's even harder than programmed psychosis

[wintry adder]

did you made it

[rocky plover]

Programmed psychosis yea

[earnest pike]

whats the best way to s rank greased palms

[wintry adder]

damn honor to you

[rocky plover]

Thanks, Took a lot of tries 😂

[wintry adder]

yeah sure

ill try it with only pistol yk not sure wich one thou

[rocky plover]

Lol, thats gonna be hard

Probably MK-V cos some have L4 armor

[wintry adder]

then i better shall not miss

[rocky plover]

Yup they shoot so quickly lol

[wintry adder]

lore accurate king von

[rocky plover]

🤣

[wintry adder]

i feel like flashbangs dont work on these guys like they just stand up

[rocky plover]

Any type of stuns work for a very short time in hard mode - if they even work on the 1st try to begin with

[molten wasp]

Shit that reminds me, I still need to complete Iron man mode on console

[grim seal]

if u beat ironman once why would you do it again

[valid raven]

it feels like some people think that there is no respectful way to depict human trafficking because its a video game and it’s inherently silly

I hate this argument

[idle shard]

SWAT AI needs to be proportionately buffed on Hard mode

doesn't make sense two SWAT officers get smoked by one unarmored gangster

[rocky plover]

Yea, I don't get it sometimes, they can make the suspects intelligent and op, yet the swat AI is clueless and useless most of the time and feels like I have to babysit them

[wide verge]

even on standard swat ai often doesn't spot suspects first and gets the first shot off

[visual mortar]

right

[floral peak]

every day, i pray for VOID to finally buff and fix the SWAT ai

[rocky plover]

True, but at least on standard it's a little bit more tolerable since suspects don't have increased fire rate like on hard mode

[rocky plover]

Ikr they keep dying in 1-2 shots on ANA hard ...

And are completely clueless of situational awareness

[next lynx]

Trying to do the "Hanged man" achievement, anybody want to help?

[inner veldt]

Is it just me or.. Boiling Point, for some reason, felt like as if it's gonna happened irl anytime soon ?

[molten wasp]

Highly doubt It

[inner veldt]

How so? Elaborate. Specially since seeing the situation in the US is getting more heated slowly

[idle shard]

it's bad, but not nearly as unstable as other countries

[molten wasp]

It's getting worse In the UK

[floral peak]

ok, im done and decide that i wont be attempting Programmed Psychosis any time soon

fuck this shit, im not this insane to do it

Its too unfair towards player

[rocky plover]

Yeah it's very annoying

Took me around 60 restarts over the span of days cos I was only trying it around 3 times per day

Didn't wanna lose my sanity

[drifting pivot]

Someone even uses the bincular NVG If its not for using AN PVS7???

[rocky plover]

What setup you trying for it maybe I can help giving you some tips

[floral peak]

nah im not attempting it for good long time

[rocky plover]

You're probably doing everything that I did, it's just that it requires very lucky rng on spawns

[drifting pivot]

I think It Just dont make sense

[floral peak]

if only game actually had a little respect for player

[rocky plover]

It's better attempting it few times a day because every restart it would be worse than the previous run that's what was happening to me

[wide verge]

maybe some do for roleplay, there really is no reason to use anything other than quad nods

[rocky plover]

Then one day got it on first try

[rocky plover]

Yea I understand it's very annoying

[floral peak]

because fuck this bullshit AI

[rocky plover]

Because they pixel peek especially on 22nd floor

[floral peak]

"Oh yeah i see you through walls and wallbang you"

[drifting pivot]

I Just use the normal one when i dont gonna use the NVG and want the loadout to look like specific things

[floral peak]

"oh yeah here an instakill"

[rocky plover]

Yeah

I had to cheese the AI alot and even then it was still rng on spawns

[floral peak]

literally most unfair i felt in video games

[wide verge]

the layout of the 4th floor is brutal with the stairs parting and then you could have anything from 3 angles at the same time

[rocky plover]

Yeah 99% of my runs end there

And the courtroom itself sometimes as well depending how many are camping that shit

[sonic flint]

What are the top 3 best missions to play? This counts all dlc maps too.

[celest pivot]

Honestly do the MLO voice lines remind anyone of the cultist from Trepang2 or is it just me?

[wide verge]

I got lucky on standard, had the flower guy and 3 regular mlo guys pretty much center of the room. a few 9 bangs and I was able to arrest all of them

[drifting pivot]

For me:
Ends of the earth
Neon tomb
[REDACTED] (greased palms)

[wide verge]

my favorites are: Lawmaker, Ends of the Earth and the new Bank mission

[floral peak]

i dont care who the fuck these guys are, NO ONE can be like them

[drifting pivot]

YOU LIKE ENDS OF THEM EARTH TOO????

[wide verge]

hard mode doesn't make any sense

[floral peak]

NO ONE can magically sense ppl through the walls

[wide verge]

yes, simple and realistic

[visual mortar]

some good ears

[drifting pivot]

Yep

"STACK UP AND BLOW THAT DOOR"

[wide verge]

same reason I like Lawmaker. Realistic scenario

[rocky plover]

Standard is doable on it, managed to S rank it as well, but on hard further I got was B (for programmed psychosis)

Can't S rank it on hard no matter what I try

[drifting pivot]

I call greased palms [REDACTED] because of the corrupt FISA

[wide verge]

I'm never going less lethal again after finally getting all cosmetics

[floral peak]

i never going non lethal on ANA after i do Hard S there

[sonic flint]

Top 3 worst maps?

[patent sleet]

Ayo! what could i have missed or is it glitched? Playing duo and trying to get "Im too old for this" achievement and we have been stuck 17/18 for ages.

[wide verge]

my least favorite are: Neon Tomb, Elephant and I don't enjoy Sinous Trail that much

[patent sleet]

And is there like a mod tracker that i could use or just try to get it?

[drifting pivot]

Can i add you as friend?

[hollow finch]

In my experience you have to complete all main objectives to get it even if you get a passing grade. Me and a friend initially failed on Brisa Cove because we didnt make 3 arrests

[wide verge]

you mean here? sure

[drifting pivot]

Yipe

[grim seal]

negotiator or pacifier?

[sonic flint]

Mines like :

Rust Belt, Greased Palms and Carriers of The Vine

[rocky plover]

When we giving it another try? 😂

[patent sleet]

We just tried it once again. Made sure that we did all the main missions and it wasnt it...

[wide verge]

I like Rust Belt a lot. Carriers I do like as well. Greased Palms is ok if I strictly follow the same clear path

[hollow finch]

well it clearly is a main mission because thats what the achievement is

[rocky plover]

You need B or higher for that achievement

So all main objectives and evidence iirc

And soft objectives ?

[patent sleet]

not true?? we made sure that we do all main mission in mission like sinious trail and it stuck on c

[regal tundra]

Yeah, for hard difficulty achievement, all you need to do is complete all primary objectives

even if you end up with a D or C

[patent sleet]

thats what i thought

[drifting pivot]

I call greased palms [REDACTED] because of the corrupt fisa

[rocky plover]

Which is automatically a B or higher I think

[patent sleet]

maybe we just need to play all the missions again and try to get the last one

[regal tundra]

Generally it wil result in a B but its not guaranteed

[drifting pivot]

@wide verge sent the friend request

[wide verge]

got it

[rocky plover]

Hmm could be

[regal tundra]

on a map like Port you have 27 enemies or so, if you kill them all you'll probably get a C

just cuz you're only getting 5 points per enemy

[floral peak]

like it feels like VOID never considered someone play hard on ana

too unfair

suspects that tank 3 flashes and 2 tasers

[rocky plover]

Yea true

[floral peak]

instakills through the walls

[regal tundra]

YOu cant let it get to you

[floral peak]

pinpoint accuracy of suspect ai

[regal tundra]

take a break and try again fresh

[rocky plover]

^

[regal tundra]

give a couple days off even lol

[floral peak]

I did so many breaks

thats what i did recently

and still the same

[regal tundra]

You doing shotgun + free-lean i assume?

[sonic flint]

Anyone wanna hop into a general VC

[rocky plover]

I was doing much better with breaks in between if I just kept trying over and over, every restart would be worse than the previous one

[regal tundra]

turn on closed captioning too, turn off music

[floral peak]

i tried everything

RTWC, SMGs, ARs

[regal tundra]

Also maybe try not deactivating power or opening doors until you're ready for the 4th floor

[rocky plover]

I abused free clean, and mirrorgun so much

[floral peak]

shotgun got me to best run yet

[wide verge]

if you were swat ai Id call you "stressed". Take a break

[rocky plover]

Ye same

[floral peak]

im in crisis

would fit better

[rocky plover]

I second this as well so the metal doors are still closed

[wide verge]

don't resign bro

[floral peak]

This mission is drowning in bullshit

Hard S greased palms never was that unfair

[regal tundra]

I actually think it fucks with the AI too. both times i waited to open the magnetic doors, it seems to have caused the 4th floor AI to rush down to 3rd

[floral peak]

Hard S Relapse was cake walk

[regal tundra]

they only left one guy behind

[wide verge]

I played it twice on hard. 3 swat ai were down in the first encounter of suspects

[rocky plover]

Lol same

[floral peak]

And we have these half brained pieces of shit in SWAT AI

which cant do ANYTHING without supervision

who WILL DO OPPOSITE OF WHAT I TELL THEM TO DO

[rocky plover]

When do you wanna attempt it again together? 😂

Fuck the swat AI

[wide verge]

2 MLO vs 5 swat. result? 3 swat dead

[rocky plover]

Hahaha

[floral peak]

I order blue team to stack up and wait to execute, preparing to enter with red team, ordering to execute and then RED TEAM GOING INTO HALLWAY TO GET TO THE DOOR THAT BLUE TEAM WAS HOLDING

[wide verge]

do mlo guys ever take civs hostage?

[glass heart]

meanwhile mid human players: barely 1-2 dead for all the mlo gone

[floral peak]

Red team dies, blue team goes around to "fall in"

[rocky plover]

Hahahahahhaha this happened to me as well

[glass heart]

honestly the swat ai is not built for any of the challenging missions

theyre only good for easy shit

[floral peak]

They are useless most of the time

[rocky plover]

I also told them to wedge a door and they stared at it and then suspect opened door and killed all of the AI in 1 second

[floral peak]

just to do 3-4 flashes and thats it

[glass heart]

even duo cqb with a good player is miles better than a full team of ai

[wide verge]

swat ai are pack mules

[rocky plover]

It was funny and sad at the same time

[floral peak]

If i had x2 slots, i wouldnt need AI

[rocky plover]

I even tried using them at utility backpacks and they were still a burden

[glass heart]

i like them because they tank damage and kill people okay ish

[rocky plover]

😂

[glass heart]

thats the main reason i use them, their health

[floral peak]

only good about them is perks (COMMANDER ONLY)

[glass heart]

else id shoot everyone myself

[rocky plover]

They die in like 2 shots on ANA hard

[wide verge]

I'm never playing commander mode again after doing ironman the other day

[rocky plover]

In quick play at least

[floral peak]

I have to restart the game every time i fail Hard S with ai

every. single. time

because im NOT doing it in quick play

No perks = no purpose for AI

[wide verge]

thats self induced suffering

[floral peak]

i could be playing alone at this point

[rocky plover]

I had far better outcomes completely solo than with AI tbh

[floral peak]

it gonna take forever to get all the perks back with one failed attempt

[rocky plover]

But I had even better outcomes when we played together

[floral peak]

They NEED to nerf ai on ANA

or at least buff SWAT ai and fix all of the bugs

because i cannot stand it

[rocky plover]

According to them they already 'nerfed' AI on hard but tbh barely saw a difference

[floral peak]

because they didnt

[rocky plover]

Yea +1 to this

[floral peak]

if they do small changes about hard ANA, it wont matter

because of all other bullshit that happens there

Either:

• Nerf their reaction times and accuracy
• Nerf instakill chances
• Make them not being able to see through the walls

[rocky plover]

I hate when they see you for 1 second, and you hide they still fire with perfect accuracy through walls

[floral peak]

at least one of these will improve this

[floral peak]

and no damage fall off when penetrating walls

[rocky plover]

Yeah I think having more firerate on hard for the suspects doesn't make that much sense and needs to be reworked at least

+50% firerate for rifles is too much

[floral peak]

How the fuck their FALs shoot that fast

Simulator my ass

[rocky plover]

🤣

[wide verge]

full auto iron sight FALs

[floral peak]

metal im up to try

but do know im infuriated rn

[wide verge]

good luck guys

[floral peak]

so sorry if anything

[rocky plover]

Ok gimme 1 min and IL hop on

[rocky plover]

Ye no worries I understand 🤣

[floral peak]

im gonna catch real psychosis if i continue to do all this shit

[rocky plover]

I am also a bit sick so my reaction time can be a little dog shit lol

[floral peak]

no amount of reaction matters, they will still be faster

[slow nexus]

same man. I have put in hundreds of attempts atp

[floral peak]

crazy how there 2 mid diff missions, and then the hardest shit in the game in one DLC

i never died during my NGD attempts, and maybe 2-3 during AGB

but this shit

[rocky plover]

Yea same lol

[slow nexus]

I've cleared iron man mode and that was way easier than this achievement tbh lol

[floral peak]

Yes

I did my ironman in S too

it was easier for me to do S bc no stress for AI

(except after elephant)

[slow nexus]

my cortisol is high

yeah elephant was rough

[floral peak]

Foid Foid go away
spike my cortisol other day

[slow nexus]

tahts wild

[floral peak]

metal im in eu 25, waiting

[rocky plover]

just switched on pc, coming

[floral peak]

after im done with Hard S ana, i dont even know what to do

probably gonna have nice time playing my fav games

[rocky plover]

i will enjoy multiplayer on standard XD

[floral peak]

Deadcells, HK

[misty grail]

What weapons are they using in carrying of the vine I keep getting like two shot

[floral peak]

And of course ill continue helping ppl with S/Hard S ranks

[misty grail]

In full heavy armor

[abstract leaf]

Why is hunger strike so hard all of the sudden?

[floral peak]

?

[abstract leaf]

It used to be so much easier

[floral peak]

literally one of the easiest

[regal tundra]

Its cuz they "fixed" the mission so the active shooter timer is 30 seconds now

[floral peak]

oh.

[regal tundra]

after 30 seconds they start killing civs

Prior to BP update it wasnt like that

[floral peak]

i thought it was all along, they added it huh

[misty grail]

I literally was playing this mission just now and got shot in an empty room

[abstract leaf]

Bro why even they do that i thought they were gang members not mass shooters

[regal tundra]

Yeah lol i know, the intent is that there are supposed to be two gangs fighting each other

But that doesnt work so well, so maybe they made the active shooter stipulation to kind of still play into the concept. IDK

[idle shard]

losing just one civilian on that level is automatic E

[glass heart]

might as well not give a shit

i take it slow and deliberate with no regard for civilian life

ofcourse i have done proper clears and gotten A and S on it already

[halcyon snow]

hey hey got an stuck npc what should i do

[north hamlet]

Is the last DLC mission in boiling point harder than Greased Palms?

[unkempt granite]

should i try the pepperball rifle or just stick to the bean bag for hide and seek?

[rustic lotus]

i personally think so

requires ALOT more of planning and stragtetic ness

[signal patrol]

Couching baby VS hydrogen Bomb basically

[rustic lotus]

as someone whos S tiered it tho on normal mode

[north hamlet]

Is there any other missions yall consider harder than greased palms?

[slim saddle]

A New America?

i had more trouble with it than with Greased Palms

[north hamlet]

The final port mission, greased palms, and new America are my toughest 3

[glass heart]

greased palms seems silly when compared to ANA

you fight more dudes, they all have armor, they are immune to gas, and they can triple tap you

also they can counter-breach and they have 3 different kinds of traps

[north hamlet]

Greased palms can actually be not too bad if you run it right with wedges and flash/stinger everything

[glass heart]

true

its problematic for the wrong reasons

(ai sightlines being obnoxious)

[north hamlet]

The packaging area is nasty for sure

[north hamlet]

I read about the counter breaching, have yet to experience this but I’ve been playing the bank mission a lot more tbh still haven’t really dug into ANA

[glass heart]

only the MLO on ana can ever do this

[eternal geyser]

I've S ranked every main storyline map except Port Hokan. I just gave it 3 attempts.... This feels impossible in comparison to the rest

Port hokan is fucking wild

[glass heart]

its not that bad

just spam flashes and take it piece by piece

oh and hope your guys dont die, thats not always within your control

[slim saddle]

ironman core

AI comprehensiveness rng

[eternal geyser]

I get to one of the two bigger open areas outside and my shitheads dont know what to do. There will be 3 enemies surrendering and one running around. I tell my boys to cuff the 3, I'll take care of the one running around. Then i get shot in the back because they never cuffed him

At one point I had about 7 enemies all surrendered in one single area lol. I had to 'attempt' to manually cuff them all and hope no one stands up.

[glass heart]

you can start the cuff animation then pull out

this makes them drop any weapons they have hidden

then you you can secure all of them without any issues

[eternal geyser]

Can they pick anything up off the ground?

BC if not that's a really cool tip

[rocky plover]

yes, but if you cancel arrest animation, then no

they basically never get back up after arrest cancel

[eternal geyser]

Ah. Good to know

[misty grail]

Anyone got any weapon tips for carriers of the vine I can’t beat it

I’m using mk17

[celest pivot]

Flash grenade launcher spam😎

[rocky plover]

arn180 with JHP or shotgun with buckshot, or even the new battle rifle with JHP

[rocky plover]

one of the worst 7.62 too much recoil

[misty grail]

So the g3a3 is better ?

[eternal geyser]

G3 is great

[rocky plover]

g3a3 or ga51

[slim saddle]

beanbag

[rocky plover]

both same recoil profiles

ga51 is shorter though so that is an advantage

[misty grail]

I’m not trying to s rank

I’m just trying to finish it to unlock the next mission

[rocky plover]

the 6.5 creedmore rifle is also good and has way less recoil than any 7.62 rifle

[misty grail]

Yea but I really like fully auto guns

[rocky plover]

and can still 1 shot as long as you use JHP

[rocky plover]

ah i see

arn180 with JHP also slaps

if you want less recoil with still good damage

[misty grail]

I was trying win p90 but I kept getting killed first

[zinc lantern]

The 180 is my go-to in pretty much every mission

300blk is in a nice sweet spot and that rifle rocks

[rocky plover]

yeah 300blkout JHP is very versatile and usable in all maps except 4 maps where there is L4 armor, and the arn180 is the best one among the .300blkout

[rocky plover]

if using p90 you need AP for their L3 plates

[misty grail]

I always use ap

I switched to the ga51

I’m about to try again

[rocky plover]

goodluck

[misty grail]

Thank you I’m just trying to finish the missions to make sure commander mode works for the dlc because I had a guy tell me his dlcs weren’t unlocking

[rocky plover]

have to finish main story missions first i think

[misty grail]

that’s what I’m trying to do

[rocky plover]

ah i see, gl!

[unkempt granite]

i'm really desperate rn, do i use pepperbal pistol + shield for hide and seek 💔

[atomic locust]

Aww why quote

It’s not even bad

It’s a Optimus prime quote

[misty grail]

I turned a corner and didn’t see anyone so I went to the door and I swear I got sniped I went down in two shots

[stone zenith]

Anybody wanna run the new DLC

[pliant juniper]

Are you hosting it? If so I can, although I’m not the best. Will send you a dm.

[stone zenith]

I can host im just looking for people to play with

[pliant juniper]

Okay, sounds good, I’ve sent you a dm.

[stone zenith]

Okay

[pliant juniper]

Just for future though, you should use #🔎looking-for-players instead of this channel.

[stone zenith]

Okay

[harsh ore]

how can i get a sniper in ron?

[celest pivot]

Mods

[harsh ore]

what mod?

[celest pivot]

I heard of one called SNIPER OR NOT REBORN you can check that out and see if it still works

[harsh ore]

alright thanks

ill try it

[junior adder]

does the muzzle flash affects the suspects?

[halcyon snow]

am stuck on a map soft complete cuz i'm missing a thing to report is there anything to do exept search?
i've been on for 40min

[wraith gale]

what map

[halcyon snow]

rust belt

with the huge underground

[regal tundra]

If you're playing with bots you can try giving the "search and secure" order

[halcyon snow]

true solo

i was with someone

he had to leave i pickup his stuff

[regal tundra]

I see, yeah then if you can't find the missing weapon or whatever there's not a lot you can do

[thick dome]

no

[regal tundra]

Sometimes due to physics bugs or whatever, they will fall in impossible to reach places for one player

[halcyon snow]

ye ik but it shgould be highlighted

even if unreachable

[regal tundra]

that map is rough with highlights

[junior adder]

thanks

[wraith gale]

did you tap the boat?

[halcyon snow]

tap or report

[regal tundra]

they can be under sheet metal in the last room, hidden in the shallow water, etc

[wraith gale]

report

[halcyon snow]

yes

ima check again

[regal tundra]

most suspects you should be able to find two guns for, so if theres not two red bags near a guy you can try searching nearby

[wraith gale]

make sure you also report every body

[halcyon snow]

it's soft completed

can go but need to pickup everything

[wraith gale]

check every body for 2 bags and make sure they're actually reported

[halcyon snow]

ok thx

[regal tundra]

also need to report the other player's body, since if they quit they would die in-game

[halcyon snow]

i only got his weapons

[regal tundra]

Might be worth seeing if you can report the body at least

[halcyon snow]

some can get only 1 gun tho

but ye

[pliant juniper]

I’m watching a guy solo A New America right now because I’m ass so I died immediately 😭

[night oasis]

What's the best full auto weapon in y'all's opinion

[urban salmon]

Why is greased palms considered the hard one? neon tomb and ides of march is ways harder for me atleast is it a challenge run thing?

[urban salmon]

mp7

[night oasis]

I struggled my ass off on gp and I did good on the others you listed

[urban salmon]

weird i did greased palms second try and that was because i accidentally shot the fisa agent in the face if i may ask what was hard about it?

[night oasis]

For me the layout

And the sheer amount of enemies

Along with the hostage situations and etc

[urban salmon]

yah thats how i feel about ides it feels like im getting jumped by every corner

[urban salmon]

also i don't think anybody ever took a hostage in my run

[halcyon snow]

ye it was his body, it wasn't on hte map so i get out and i sstill get s bruhhh

[regal tundra]

Nice

[thick dome]

most suspects can take hostage if the suspect gets stressed out enough

[urban salmon]

i thought that was just map dependent

[thick dome]

i dotn know, except for certain maps where its hard coded in. suspects start with different levels of stress in maps, and also have different thresholds. so its more likely on maps prob where they start with higher stress levels, so it takes less for them to get freaked out.

supressed weapons are good for that too because they generate less stress per shot on suspects. but if you mag dumping everyone and they are firing back its gonna get hot

[dusky ingot]

is the deluxe only dlcs and the game? or smth else too

[uncut cliff]

Do the suspects actually use teamwork when fighting you or are they all independent

[empty tusk]

Why do people join my server

And then moan if I wanna run Non-lethal

Like bro leave if u don't wanna run non-lethal

But no they sit there and complain

[wind gyro]

only dlcs and game

[zinc lantern]

Would be neat if there was a filter system added so people can search based on mission goals/ROE

[empty tusk]

Yeah that'd be cool

[molten wasp]

Finally got the ruined watch on console, next up Is PC

[unkempt granite]

hide and seek is going to give me a headache

i was able to do it on standard with no issue but i can't on hard???

i'm getting shot from like 50m away and since it's so dark i can't see from where

[wraith gale]

1. NVGs
2. 7.62 AP
3. Krill issue

[unkempt granite]

i already beat it it's just that i'm, trying to s rank it on hard since yesterday

[wraith gale]

what way are you clearing?

its easier to clear far left and eliminate the warehouse and watch tower first.

for me anyways.

[unkempt granite]

i'm doing that

[molten wasp]

You got this mate

If I can do It, you can do It

[night jewel]

Does Flashlight alert enemy who see it?

[unkempt granite]

i think

[night jewel]

how abt laser?

[unkempt granite]

they don't with that

[molten wasp]

You can use It to bait them

[unkempt granite]

how?

[molten wasp]

Sound que

[unkempt granite]

ohh

just bait them to show where they're at?

[jade leaf]

Yall think judges crack apartment is gonna be the new hub if they do another dlc

[molten wasp]

Yeah If you hear them, bait them, but pay attention to footsteps

[jade leaf]

I just used the alt lean and headtaps the flashlight worked on like 2 guys on a good run

The way I beat it was highkey alot of tiger and 2 c2

Stingers*

I put one c2 on one of the side doors of the court room and it disoriented and knocked out a 2 guys and that was that

[ember sonnet]

Mission briefing in judges bum apartement

[jade leaf]

It would be cool if the mission briefing is just him talking to himself or better yet he has his boys king Prescott Eli and the other one around a coffee table discussing how to destroy fisah or smth

[celest pivot]

Just a single map on a kitchen table😭🙏

[jade leaf]

YESSS

[ember sonnet]

God when are going to crack open FISA

[jade leaf]

Nah I'd imagine the radio screaming about the pd being overrun and judge has to clear it

[jade leaf]

Fisa is NOT touchable usia tho

[ember sonnet]

The armory is just judges closet full of guns

[jade leaf]

I mean the closet of guns = armory

The wall where he draws schizoposts = the debrief table

It makes sense

[hard hound]

guys is there anyway to uncook me

[jade leaf]

They all hide under a blanket on his dirty mattress with a flashlight and discuss their plans

[hard hound]

i accidently launched clean save data

how do I undo

[jade leaf]

Just relaunch i think

If that dont work look up. Tutorial to see your saves on your file if their gone your cooked

I once deleted my iron man save and highkey wanted to die since I was on the hospital, I mean I ended up finishing the deathless Ironman but still I was so over it bruh

Also I had my first expierence with the trailers I saw them carrying dudes off and it was pretty silly

[outer fossil]

ive spent like an hour just making loadouts not even playing missions

[hard hound]

i dont think it worked'

might be time to give up and move to arma

[fluid mortar]

Haha yeah, i made like 30 loadouts before, saved like 4 of them, had to get the perfect one lmao

[hard hound]

you think someone could help me try to recover files ina screen share ina vc?

[velvet verge]

are some of the websites from the posters in game not useable anymore?

tryna do the lossuenos helps one cuz I looked up nourlimit.com from another poster and it told me to go to it

but its unuseable

[hard hound]

Would someone wanna help me re run through some of the harder maps and get As alone with an S on valley of the dolls

I decided I won’t find my deleted save so I’ll just replay every mission

[urban salmon]

doing neon tomb, is heavy worth it? it feels like im dying just as fast as with the default option

[plucky marsh]

Is my eyes it burns bugged?

[crude prism]

schteel it up my homie

[cerulean crescent]

What exacfly is the best armor type anyways?

not like weight class but material wise

[viral pecan]

steel is best pretty sure.

just raw dog it no armor and non lethals only with no teammates hard difficulty obv

[balmy patio]

lowkey is the steel buff from LS stories powercreeping ceramic

i know ceramic was the way back then but god damn 86.5%

unbreakable

practically 100% DR, most hard mode encounters will get the suspect to pop shot you twice or do a 4 round burst in a split second so the ceramic plates just go by

[crude prism]

I mean ceramic used to literally not even block rifle rounds from suspects lol

The game just gave people zero feedback and they don't like being slow

[balmy patio]

I mean yeah i get it, that's why light front steel is meta cuz you can move to cover fast while just being tanky as hell on front

People still use ceramic more than steel to this day honestly

I guess people think you can only go heavy all steel with a shield for the feeling

[viral pecan]

pretty new to the game only got about 22 hours on it any tips? i just finished the hospital map, and i have all dlcs

also any weapons that you recommend? im just using the default loadout

[hard hound]

Cqb arn-180

But any of the ARs are pretty good

Maybe Lvar

[inner veldt]

Just finished watching RoN Boiling Point DLC Mission, damn its so crazy, like seriously. Armored guys with assault rifle with former military background.

[cedar mulch]

[wraith gale]

and IR tripwires

[inner veldt]

And those phone reaching protesters who tried to rob a bank

[wraith gale]

i havent done that mission yet, i just did new america and i died 8 times and have yet to complete it

[inner veldt]

All of that enemy and all they sent is a Swat team, those former military people who armed to the teeth...When they shouldve sent a literal national guard instead of FBI.

[wraith gale]

normal los suenos activities

[hard hound]

Judge is literally him

[inner veldt]

They better double our payment.

[hard hound]

It’s in the conspiracy

[inner veldt]

I swear everytime i heard that name what comes to my mind is Dredd

[hard hound]

💀

Judge Eli and Prescott could solo the war on Ukraine

[cerulean crescent]

The Dredd Pistol would go so hard in this game

Just gotta use it to Sentence Amos

[hard hound]

The real question is do you think MK ultra worked irl and the CIA is just like the USIA

They just be covering it up

[cerulean crescent]

Knowing how LSD works? no

[wraith gale]

LSpD

[cerulean crescent]

Honestly the city at this point is just screwed with how everything is going in boiling point

[little hatch]

hey guys, to get The Heat is On, do you need to get a certain score?

[idle zinc]

I need help with Boiling point last mission

Im losing my mind, solo and randoms

[karmic ocean]

Need 3 players us#12 running any mission

[dusky nacelle]

MKV is fun lmao

[inner veldt]

Do you guys always pick Multiplayer or single mode ?

[dusky nacelle]

Single

[craggy fable]

Multiplayer but friends only lobby so I’m completely solo

[inner veldt]

I wanna try play those DLC maps in MP, but yeah sadly im still new. And seeing boiling point videos, sorta make me terrified on how tough things be

[rocky plover]

This is so true, every time I mentioned steel I get ambushed with stuff like spalling and speed which tbh both aren't a problem after steel got buffed (unless you pick heavy full coverage lol)

(I use light armor front only steel myself)

[regal tundra]

steel was also bugged for about a year

not even bugged tbh

just bad order of operations essentially

[rocky plover]

Well before the steel buff I used to use ceramic

[regal tundra]

yeah but even before the "buff" it didnt work as intended

[rocky plover]

True

[regal tundra]

from 1.0 launch until like, home invasion iirc

[rocky plover]

Yea cos of the damage cap right?

[regal tundra]

Yeah it was applied in the wrong order

[rocky plover]

Yea

[regal tundra]

I feel like the difference barely matters without officer traits at this time anyway

steel technically allows you to survive longer but you have to get shot in the chest

[rocky plover]

Yea it's all rng at the end of the day

[regal tundra]

with armorer tho its like, yeah steel is way better for sure

[rocky plover]

Cos if you just have a steel plate and only get shot to limbs you would survive longer with ceramic

[regal tundra]

right

[rocky plover]

So it's all rng

I just use light armor front only steel and just say fuck it we'll see, at least I'm still somewhere fast and 'should' have good frontal protection

Now if IL get shot to limbs only well tough luck 🤣

But at least there's still the chance to make use of the going back to 50% health too

[rocky plover]

Also depends which calibre you get shot with, like with 7.62 it's almost the same, but with lower calibres then yeah steel makes a massive difference

[regal tundra]

Yeah but ceramic also takes less durability damage from lower calibers too

but its whatever lol, i really dont think it matters that much

[rocky plover]

True

Just don't use Kevlar 😂

Might as well go with stab vest imo 🤣

[keen socket]

Just don't get shot is the best plan

[regal tundra]

i wonder if stab vest with flash launcher would've been viable for programmed psychosis

[rocky plover]

True wish that can happen on hard mode

🤣

[regal tundra]

3 full cylinders + 3 mags of handgun ammo. just stun and execute

[rocky plover]

Probably, cos some already did it with stab vest and beanbag lol

Yea know some that did it that way, personally I used m1014 and shot on sight lol

[regal tundra]

same but with b1301

[rocky plover]

Was already hard enough

[rocky plover]

Good as well, I just hate the slow reload but it has 1 more shot in the tube at least and lower recoil

[regal tundra]

yeah for sure they both are viable

well, "viable"

[rocky plover]

[regal tundra]

need a video of VOID doing it

asap

[rocky plover]

Ikr!!

Same for hard S lol

On that map ffs

[regal tundra]

Lol you're barking up an insane tree going for that

[craggy fable]

id be willing to help you out, or you can look in #🔎looking-for-players

[rocky plover]

It's triggering my OCD

It's the only 1 I have left :/

[regal tundra]

You'd need a team of 4 or 5 players who know the map

[rocky plover]

And I thought 3LT was already hard enough with 28 suspects but this one even though it has slightly less suspects they are far more coordinated

[peak kayak]

I have most the main game trophy's but the ones I have left are bugged💔

[rocky plover]

Yea been trying with another player and at least we're having far better results than with swat AI

Swat AI just get dropped like flies on ANA hard mode lol

[regal tundra]

I remember when you could lose officers and still get S

[craggy fable]

Dang 💔

[rocky plover]

Yea just in multiplayer though

[craggy fable]

I have all the base game achievements besides doing the main levels on hard, I’ll do that later on

[regal tundra]

as long as you reported them

[rocky plover]

Yeah

[peak kayak]

I know I need to do every mission on hard then the kermit trophy ts gonna be sad

I done the hanged man trophy but didn't get it

I hate the tiny little requirements it doesn't tell you

[tranquil marlin]

I have S'ed America and it's still showing a C.

[rocky plover]

Maybe S tiered it on standard and it's showing you the score (C) on hard?

[peak kayak]

Too scared to even attempt the dcls yet

[tranquil marlin]

I thought the same thing but switching to other difficulties only show the C.

[rocky plover]

Yea switching the difficulty won't make a difference the hard score overwrites the standard score

[tranquil marlin]

Alright. Guess I'll try again later.

[rocky plover]

I got it S on standard and B on hard for example and it shows me hard B as the score

So now I wanna do it on hard S 🤣

[rocky plover]

I mean as long as it counted towards the achievement you're all good

[hybrid wren]

RoN would be neat to have sprint

Like in em bodycam footages

[iron willow]

Turns out, Judge's VA also VA'd Kurt Hansen from Cyberpunk 2077

That is pretty cool, actually!

[floral peak]

yeah wouldve been great

also, gm

[rocky plover]

Yea at least I can get to cover slightly safer

Good morning

[floral peak]

im ready for some tries metal

if you up rn

[rocky plover]

Ok give me around 2 mins eating some bread

[floral peak]

alr

[wraith gale]

it does. its called low/high ready

[keen socket]

does it actually alter movement speed?

[rocky plover]

20% iirc

[thorny escarp]

yea

ig you can call it sprinting

[eternal drum]

you might as well rebind it to shift

[thorny escarp]

eh I like having shift as slow walk

I put high ready to side mouse button