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[fiery vortex]

laser-light, you can still see the laser while lights on, pretty neat

two seperate and it's just outgunne dlol

its pushing m1014 as a pretty good choice, arguably best shotgun

weapons that do have a hybrid have an advantaged even if very specific

[cedar mulch]

The Spider is shrouded in mystery; all that is known at present is that they control the Cartel and the Mafia to transport goods on their behalf

[brazen onyx]

How do you guys get the flower man to not detonate the bomb on a new America

[dark egret]

Guys, can I get the "The Hermit" achievement by completing missions at F rank?

[jolly verge]

Yes, except Port Hokan mission

[brazen onyx]

How do you guys get the flower man to not detonate the bomb on a new America

[fiery vortex]

I tend to prefer the XE sight because it has the optional irons which allows you to get a slightly more accurate shot

[fiery vortex]

iirc press room, activate it only when your about to breach the main/bomb man room

try to lock all other sides, you have very limited time. once you do the jammer stuff in press room get the man to surrender. Iirc do not kill or incapacitate him

he needs to be alive?

[brazen onyx]

Is the press room where it starts the countdown of 2 mins

[fiery vortex]

Yes, iirc it has abunch of seats and comes prior to the final stairwell to that top level

[brazen onyx]

I never knew how to activate it

[fiery vortex]

something next to the podium I believe?

not sure, had other people do it for me as I was focused on cleaning up or clearing

[brazen onyx]

Thanks for your help tho I’ll try to find out more

[fiery vortex]

nws, remember multple enemies and lots of cover for them

Always assume they are in the most stupid places even if they should not fit in there, I got killed once because a member hid behind a cabinet (i think thats what it was) that was angled so as to cover him completely and make a very tiny hole, that he somehow hides in

they are fucking ruthless, on the final stairwell another begun sniping me from the stairwell through the window panes and doorway into the courtroom area

[brazen onyx]

Haha yeah this mission is hard but what can you expect from a paramilitary terrorist organisation.

[brazen onyx]

Also I found out how to start the timer, thank you

[fiery vortex]

nah i get that it's more how dedicated that they saw the most small opening and fully go for it

[rocky plover]

The jammer can spawn in 1 of 3 different locations

Also clear everything around the courtroom except the courtroom itself and then use jammer and clear courtroom to avoid wasting time activating jammer and then still have to clear everything in 2-3 mins

[brazen onyx]

So while the jammer is active the flower man can’t detonate, correct?

[balmy patio]

another tip is that you can kill any suspects as you peek in the courtoom, the only thing to keep in mind is to not make LOS with the vip so as long as you do that he wont blow up anything so you could almost clear the entire courtroom by just killing the suspects on the corners of it and then going back down and activating the jammer to finish the last suspect hiding or to disarm the VIP

the VIP will always be on the same spot so you can get pretty aggressive with it

open one of the main doors, clear that corner then close it to disrupt LOS with VIP, then open the other door and clear the other corner, then you can wedge it and clear the side offices from the courtroom and then activate the jammer and deal with the VIP or whatever suspect is hiding

[rocky plover]

Correct but don't kill him or it still explodes automatically

Also after you arrest him, you still need to defuse his vest

Be careful not to press the detonator yourself 😅

[brazen onyx]

Yep

[wooden saddle]

Thanks for watching me complete A New America on A+ on Standard. ^^ @vernal onyx @wide sparrow @kindred dust

[leaden tundra]

Hi, does anyone know how i can change the police station? Im rn in the || riot || even tho i havent played the boiling point missions yet

[bitter mason]

Quick play or commander

[floral peak]

commander, AI here have perks

[bitter mason]

Im asking hunter what he plays

[bitter mason]

You playing commander or quick play?

[floral peak]

its changed to riot because of recent update

[leaden tundra]

Dosnt matter both have the same issue.

[leaden tundra]

Ah man i dont like it like this way to dark

[floral peak]

usually thats happens when new dlc comes out

[leaden tundra]

So theres no way to change it?

[floral peak]

if you in commander and didnt complete Hide and Seek your station will be standart

[leaden tundra]

Oh ok

[fair lichen]

Guys, what to do when I start the game, want to play with friends but cant join them because it writes always - cant join because of mods.. I have no mods installed, tried verify game files, yet nothing works

[floral peak]

Make sure in settings to have modded lobbies turned off for everyone, and try launching in safe mode

Should work

[inner veldt]

Y'all use White Phosphor or normal NVG?

[sand abyss]

Just to make sure what bugs or other affect the hermit trophy

[brazen onyx]

Finally S ranked a new America on hard

[eternal drum]

yes but that's probably a lot of stress for your SWAT team

if its high enough, they will leave

[dark egret]

Can't I just fire them/send them to therapy every mission?

[eternal drum]

therapy is fine. I wouldnt recommend firing them though as it also bumps stress. You can replay missions to quickly pass the therapy time for them to return to duty

[sand abyss]

Gas station is pretty good

[eternal drum]

bc of how easy it is to do it non lethal you can probably lower stress that way instead of therapy

[rocky plover]

Nice, still haven't done it

@floral peak hit me up when you're up

[brazen onyx]

Honestly not that hard to be honest

[rocky plover]

Then I'm bad cos I still haven't done it

Last S that I need for all hard S

[inner veldt]

Yeap... Really have to always listen to the briefing... I thought the briefing is uhh.. Worth to skip, like in CoD.. But damn didn't expect the briefing is super necessary to hear and read in RoN.

[brazen onyx]

M320 flash is your best friend for S

[rocky plover]

Yea that's what I'm using

But either I run out of ammo or I get 1 tapped

[brazen onyx]

only downside is that it can only hold 6 flash bangs.

[brazen onyx]

Save most of them for the court room

[rocky plover]

Yea but what about the rest

Pepperball pistol ain't gonna do shit on them 🤣

And taser has limited range

[dark egret]

Never stress i guess

[heavy pelican]

Hi i am struggling with the oil rig map does anyone have any tips for me

[stoic thistle]

There's a brown colored crate by the stairs that you can resupply with.

3rd floor.

[rocky plover]

Yea ik bout it, problem is running out of ammo before you even reach that

[kindred nacelle]

Hey guys I wanna know, i don't really play much because I play at internet cafe, but. Are the guns recoil any different when you're ADS or Canted sight? not the Additional attachment but canting sight using the laser?

[rocky plover]

You still need to ads while canted so I assume it's the same

[sand abyss]

Slow and steady I guess, and use weapons you don't struggle to handle the recoil off?

Just make sure each room is clear and just have your own internal plan

[heavy pelican]

Ok thanks

[quasi coral]

They are both the same

[floral peak]

Im ready to try now

[rocky plover]

come eu#25

[novel halo]

@hollow finch hey, can you please tell me what mods you used in this pic?
#🎨ron-screenshots-and-art message

[surreal pelican]

Don't ask how faithful I am to give my shield the TRPL

[surreal pelican]

My solution for standard ana S:

Put all faith in AI and let them launcher clear every room and try not to use my primary too much, only when we breach courtroom did I rain Ragnarok

[dire portal]

will this game have steam items for points

like trading cards

profile items

[surreal pelican]

Someday brotha.. someday.. I hope to see the release of steam badges for Ron too

[signal patrol]

What are yall top 3 favorite weapons in the game

And why

[green cave]

i forgot how evil old farm was

[last bolt]

If you could increase the squad size what would it be I feel like 5 is too small

[novel halo]

My top one is the RTWC battle rifle, the gun's got that satisfying kick and it's more lethal than the M4

The second one has got to be the M1014, enough firepower to paint a room red

The third one is the flash grenade launcher (the 6 capacity one), love it because the suspects cannot stand it

[green cave]

I'd want 9, and a kind of SWAT or R6 pre-planning phase. Sure two teams of two is fine, but two teams of four with prescripted routing would be something else.

[novel halo]

I heard about a game that does that

With AI and stuff

[signal patrol]

Those are some amazing weaponss

[novel halo]

Basically you can pre plan routes

[novel halo]

The best of their class

My top 4 would be the five seven tho

[signal patrol]

Indeed

[green cave]

USP 45, HK MP7, and whatever the game calls the SCAR-H. Sucker for european guns.

[last bolt]

G36c very easy gun to use and looks nice

I like the shotgun with the mag strong and fast reload

And I like the 509 just because it's iron Sights

[green cave]

I do live 500 feet from NWSC Crane so I do run the Mk18 for the novelty quite often.

[green cave]

Dude, the 509 is such a nice handgun IRL too. I have no clue why it gets slept on so hard minus being a bit more expensive than the usual suspects.

[novel halo]

The 509 is really peak

9x19 right?

[green cave]

Mhm. Fits so nicely into a Tenicor holster too, basically invisible.

I traded mine for a 510 though.

[last bolt]

Pre-planning phase is kind of already there but 100% for the two teams of four

[floral peak]

11 suspects on first floor on ANA

[green cave]

Best part about it is that the sights come suppressor height by stock. I manufacture suppressors for a living. I didn't have to change anything on my carry pistol to use it at work.

[novel halo]

The most slept on gun imo

[green cave]

The modern CZ pistols are pretty slept on too. I really liked the P-10 when I had it. I have monstrous hands, just wide, but the grip is pretty much the best i've felt.

Really hope we get one in RON

[signal patrol]

My favorite top 3 guns are:
MCX: The gun looks amazing, there is so much customisation and really good for CQB and lrb
SPC9: The gun looks so amazing aswell, customisation is nice, high fire rate and good for CQB
DM4PDW: Looks so good, its versitile, has amazing handeling and is perfect for CQB

[novel halo]

Totally forgot about the MCX 😭

[rocky plover]

jesus christ, 11 suspects on just the first floor of ANA

[signal patrol]

My honorable mention: S2011-P

[novel halo]

personally I like it that way

[signal patrol]

Wait what how

[novel halo]

Idk mate

[rocky plover]

yea the harder floors will be easier

[novel halo]

Indeed

[rocky plover]

problem is its not really ideal when doing it for S rank, because arresting them all at once is hectic even with arrest cancel

[signal patrol]

Trying New guns is really good for replayability

[novel halo]

Ehhh, the first floor is just CQB, so when all the suspects are close by it's easier to get all of them

[novel halo]

Yup, I tried the MP5A2 yesterday and let me just say that it's kinda nice

Also tried the other shotguns, specifically pump action

Supernova is the best one

[rocky plover]

well all the map is cqb tbh, but they were all in the hallway which was hard to get all at once, between moving them to you, reloading, and arrest cancelling

[signal patrol]

Playing with the same guns is just boring

[rocky plover]

best pump action is 590m tbh cos of the reload

[crystal tundra]

i just cant stop using the mp7

its my comfort zone

[rocky plover]

best smg

[novel halo]

Except for that damn courtroom

[signal patrol]

But I kept playing with the same guns for 6 months because the sound design is amazing

How is this game even made by an indie team

[novel halo]

Actually guys, how do you like your guns?

[rocky plover]

i'd still consider it cqb, it's the obstacles in the way and the sightlines that's annoying

[novel halo]

Unsilenced, irons, etc

[novel halo]

yeppers

[crystal tundra]

i never use dotsights on my pistols

i think its gaudy personally

[novel halo]

Might relate, but only in some cases

[crystal tundra]

its fine if its your "main" gun

i just dont like em

[novel halo]

I usually refer to my pistols as a last resort if my primary runs out, so I don't really kit them out because I'm not planning on using them for a long time

However since I'm playing on gunfighter now, I get at least 3 pistol mags in case both of my arms go down

[crystal tundra]

also, the USP comes with a silencer by default as far as im concerned

[rocky plover]

not by default but it's pretty much the only option it has (2 suppressors)

can still use it unsuppressed though

[crystal tundra]

id love a usp match like brake tho

or any brake for that matter

[signal patrol]

Do suspects actually hear the silenced guns?

[rocky plover]

ye same range as unsuppressed, but less stress gain

[signal patrol]

Thats so realistic

And it helps to know which team is firing

[crystal tundra]

even 300 blackout supressed?

[signal patrol]

Your team or the suspects

[rocky plover]

yea

[rocky plover]

sadly ye, gunfighter changes them to subsonic rounds because they're called FMJ instead of AP, and OTM instead of JHP, but regarding the sound/range I'm not sure it changes anything, it changes the damage curve however

[pseudo hull]

held an angle for like an entire minute the second i swap to a flashbang he immediately swings it oh i love this game

[last bolt]

It goes from 60 to 45 meters when you have a silencer

[signal patrol]

So its good for big maps

[rocky plover]

no lol its both 20m

for both loud and suppressed

except A new america which is 50m

[signal patrol]

Okay good, I think its refreshing for shooter games

[pseudo hull]

wat

[rocky plover]

yea

[rocky plover]

🤷

[last bolt]

That's what I was told it was 60 for a regular gunshot and 45 for suppressed

[rocky plover]

ah mis-information then cos it's 20m for any gun/attachment

[last bolt]

Fair enough

[pseudo hull]

i just watched my team set up for a clear and then just stopped doing it

why does this happen

[rocky plover]

no idea, probably path finding

[last bolt]

@rocky plover ah it was outdated information from 2023/2024

[rocky plover]

ah i see

[terse python]

do we know anything about an update schedule for bug fixes? And anything about known issues that the devs are currently working on?

[final ember]

Hard mode is even worse now I swear
Missions I used to beat in hard now kick my ass

recent updates did something to it

[pseudo hull]

its pretty cool that you can shoot traps and kill people

[agile pagoda]

Why in multiplayer no one speaks

And lowkey it’s just full of hackers

[pseudo hull]

what

[agile pagoda]

Idk some modder was just team killing everyone in one shot

[wooden lintel]

Modded gun?

[inner jewel]

Ive genuinely never experienced that

What kinda multiplayer lobbies are you joining lmao

[tribal swift]

So what is the difference between Steel and Ceramic?

[inner jewel]

Steel always has 86.5% damage reduction and ceramic has 100% until it breaks, and when it breaks it drops to 40% if i recall correctly
Corrected values, thanks LonelyCF

[tribal swift]

Sweet thx

[tribal swift]

Is there a difference between high and low ready? Is there a change in movement speed?

[inner jewel]

As far as i know no

[jolly verge]

And 50m on ANA

[jolly verge]

Both low/high ready increase movement speed by 20%

[tribal swift]

ok thx

[idle mauve]

has anyone actually gotten “My Eyes, It Burns!”

[lost inlet]

Steel gives 86.5% damage reduction and ceramic gives 100% till it breaks then it gives 40%.

[inner jewel]

Yeah that

[novel halo]

did you get taken down for links or uh

[hollow finch]

Nah didnt finish 1 sec

[novel halo]

👍

[exotic slate]

for "Way Out West" do my AI need only the 357?

[hollow finch]

Helmet, shirt and gloves are vanilla.

i have though swapped the helmet to the Team Wendy Exfil by DeltaTwoSeven
https://www.nexusmods.com/readyornot/mods/7156

Gun: BCM AR-15 by ExsaitX
https://www.nexusmods.com/readyornot/mods/6276

NVG: Night vision expansion by ChanMK2
https://www.nexusmods.com/readyornot/mods/5926

Vest: Crye JPC 2.0 by Ballistic
https://www.nexusmods.com/readyornot/mods/5948

Belt+pants+boots: Hound wolf Lobo by REticentl
https://www.nexusmods.com/readyornot/mods/7364

[novel halo]

Thank you man, really appreciate it

[inner veldt]

Do you guys shoot the lady or arrest her? The one from mission 3, where you found her in the bedroom of the little girl who is out cold.

I arrest her, and feel like I should've just shot her there

[hollow finch]

shes just a random suspect who happened to spawn there. i dont look into it more than that

[rocky rover]

just finish rust belt. damn. 2 dead in my teams. I guess I can consider myself lucky

I sarted with surrendering 2 armed guys in the outside, but a head was visible behin a car. I feared a third armed man so I didn't rush

the 2 guys waked up and fire everywhere, the third guy was actually a civ.... missed a clean arrest for thoses ones

then a room in the tunnel, the one guy surrenders quickly under the flash bang (yeah!!) but 4 boys suddently appears and opened fire

by miracle the guy on knees survived the thunder of bullets

the rest is history: get shooted, shooted back, reaching the final big room, no chaos stopped there, roaming back the tunnels totally lost in order to find the last guy alive

luckily thoses muchachos had big mouth cant avoid to talk to themselves!

and the real hero was my GA51. sniper shoot, and eventually panic shoot

[inner jewel]

Now s-rank it

[rocky rover]

hell yeah. but a night sleep before!

pretty sure never achieved rust belt in S

[crystal tundra]

rust belt has the best wrist item imho

[inner jewel]

Which item does rust belt give again

[crystal tundra]

rosary beads

[inner jewel]

I remember having them equipped in a few loadouts/presets or wtv its called

[rocky rover]

it is called "show the world how nerd u are" 😁

[fiery vortex]

just shot a civvvvvv I thought he was about to pull a gun on my brooooo

[rocky plover]

@jolly verge ye mentioned it to him earlier

[rocky plover]

yes, but no idea what made it trigger, as i had tried all sorts of things

and it activated after i had restarted and was doing something completely unrelated

[crystal tundra]

@placid kindle looks like a polygraph chart rather than an eeg tbqh

[placid kindle]

thanks mate

[crystal tundra]

also an eeg has like 7 or 8 different factors, while this one only has 4

im fairly certain polygraphs always have 4

[gleaming storm]

what guns have ths sight that U can flip over?

[rocky rover]

hope you put more trust in an eeg, non regarding its number of lines, than in the most complicated polygraph you can imagine

just good to free gulties ones

I have in mind blood pressure, heart rate and a measure of humidity in the surface of skin. So I miss one

[crystal tundra]

im not trying to say anything about the validity of a polygraph test, im only saying it made me think of a polygraph test instantly rather than an eeg

[rocky rover]

oh yeah, no bad meaning from me please be sure!

[rocky plover]

@crude prism I just had 22 suspects on A New America on Hard, isn't it supposed to be 24 minimum

[crystal tundra]

it does look really unusual, polygraph tests usually have intersecting graphs

[placid kindle]

hmmm

thanks,mind discussing this in TSA channel?

Its releated to the arg

[crystal tundra]

might be that judge is just built REALLY different

or this is some alternate technology

[placid kindle]

thats cus he is

He was lit a modern MKultra

[crystal tundra]

your bodies perspiration should still be the same

[rocky rover]

for what I can rememeber, actual eeg request one neutral for the current, then you can add any probe you need, scattered all around the crane

[placid kindle]

plus shit ass amounts of tramua sooo

[rocky rover]

so "wire-1" area of your brain recorded at the same time

[placid kindle]

thanks m8

[rocky rover]

not sure the subject of the day, but thanks for thanking me! ❤️

[crystal tundra]

imma check the chart ingame in a few and ill get back to you

[placid kindle]

aight

its in capts offic

[rocky rover]

I would love to. if the graph displays more than ONE unit (like miilvolts), it is not an eeg

polygraph WILL have several units

[crystal tundra]

looks like theres some handwritten stuff on it too

might give us a better clue

[rocky rover]

not distinctive or you can actually read it.

this is a way to focus on brain wavelenght determination (alpha beta etc...)

and in a polygraph, the expert is supposed to coordinate it with answer and "diagnostic"

[crystal tundra]

lol it literally says eeg on the confidential document im a dumbass

[verbal jacinth]

Does anyone have any tips for new America?

[rich whale]

Just learn CQB bro. Using stun grenades are pretty useless cuz they all mostly wear goggles. So you gotta fight them head on.

[rocky plover]

they're immune to gas (MLO) not stun grenades........

[surreal pelican]

Which is more lethal and cooler?

Rogue Secret Service Agents or the MLO

[rich whale]

Eh

[surreal pelican]

Curious, are MLO immune to toxic gas canister too?

[rich whale]

Chad crackheads in twisted nerve ✌️

[split relic]

Should i buy ron on console? it looks really fun

[rocky plover]

no, don't think so at least

only ones on no good deeds are

[rich whale]

I don't even know how controller gameplay looks. All controls barely fit in keyboard.

[surreal pelican]

Wtf the rioters are immune to toxic gas?

[rocky plover]

what rioters?

you mixed up no good deeds with all gods burn

[surreal pelican]

This is what trying to do p.p. does to a person

[rocky plover]

lol

[surreal pelican]

Now I'm just enjoying standard... base missions... ahhhh...

With the 870 cqb......

so relaxing.......

[rocky plover]

ikr XD

[surreal pelican]

no need to worry about counter breach if you fuck up........

ahhhh..........,......

[surreal pelican]

youre right, semi auto shotties run dry faster than pump

[rocky plover]

only if you panic fire though

[surreal pelican]

out of so many missions I did, ana takes the place of the amount of "oh shit" moments occur

[rocky plover]

makes sense

[surreal pelican]

that's where the cover fire occurs; and what happens with semi?

yuhup

[surreal pelican]

if anything;

flashlight op

[jolly verge]

22 on standart only

You sure it was hard?

[rocky plover]

I just had 22 on hard though that's what I mean

[pseudo hull]

do civilians get secured if you tell them to go to an exit

[rocky plover]

yeah im sure

[surreal pelican]

yes they fixed the move to exit command

[rocky plover]

i even had 23 twice

[rocky plover]

75% of the time yes

[surreal pelican]

I had like 4 of the secret service agents rush out to see what's the flashlight only to die

[rocky plover]

yeah works most of the time

[surreal pelican]

And my pointman king, saved the staircase breach on SotF with the shield

The shield ate the full auto;

But somehow they become shit with it on hard mode

[jolly verge]

This is for Hard difficulty, but this is from the first update so idk

[pseudo hull]

its kind of weird that missions autocomplete even if you dont secure weapon caches

[pseudo hull]

what if you put the min suspects to like 60

will there be 60 of them

[jolly verge]

There is a cap you can't go above iirc

[surreal pelican]

Reporting it as soft objective only... but I still like to secure cache

Certain maps

[pseudo hull]

can that mess up s rank

[jagged coyote]

where can i see it

[rocky plover]

that's weird, only this time I had 22 on hard though, usually always 24/25/26, and had twice 23

[jolly verge]

I will ask MMMM for a new files then to see through

[surreal pelican]

You got blessed by void

[rocky plover]

he told me it might have to do with the vip dude to how it's coded in game when I asked about 23 suspects cos he wrote 24 minimum (cos it becomes 23+1vip) but idk about this time when i had 22, seems weird

[jolly verge]

How many suspects does Casual show tho? Always 19?

[rocky plover]

not sure, never touched casual to be completely honest

[jolly verge]

That what I told him too , but they might did something again

[rocky plover]

yea could be, or i broke the game from all the restarts 🤣

[sonic sleet]

Yk I seriously question the point of wearing armor or a helmet on hard on new America when you’re still a one tap either way

[grim seal]

well with full cover steel u get more chances to bleed which helps a lot if you keep getting lit up, so technically you can stay alive forever as long as you limit your contacts

[sonic sleet]

Yes and no. Half the mfs on that map if they even shoot you once you’re insta killed

[grim seal]

oh yeah they have fals dont they

[jagged coyote]

where can i see/edit it

[rocky plover]

ye and the worst thing is their firerate is increased absurdly on hard mode, that's why it feels like you got 1 tapped

[grim seal]

theres a spreadsheet that has min/max suspect counts but not civs

[rocky plover]

aspid has one with civs too

[sonic sleet]

If you don’t immediately spam shoot them on new America and they even get a chance to up their gun you’re fucked

And you better hope you see them first lmao

[rocky plover]

yea

[sonic sleet]

And w the flash launcher you never have enough flashes lmao

[rocky plover]

worst part is when they run away and hard camp while still tracking you and aiming at you lol

[sonic sleet]

Yup. And the fact some of them take 20 fucking flashes to go down

[rocky plover]

yea i like to skip most of what i can and get to the ammo crate quickly, and only clear whatever i encounter, then that way i can refill everytime i need to

gotta be careful not to be ambushed from behind as well though so wedges will help

[floral peak]

Imo risky since all your wedges get removed

[rocky plover]

just be mindful that whenever you refill ammo, wedges placed are removed

[floral peak]

So all suspect can roam into anywhere

[sonic sleet]

They also said they fixed the sprinting animation w the enemies when they’re complying and they def haven’t lmao

[rocky plover]

yea but at least you can spam the launcher in pre determined areas

and wouldnt have to worry about ammo that much

[sonic sleet]

True

[rocky plover]

but ye still risky due to the wedges get removed

so i'd say if you're gonna do it, treat the areas you had cleared as being still not cleared when you go back to them

[sonic sleet]

Another issue is the fucking ai teammates when they move and clear, they totally ignore the closed doors and then get the door kicked on them and get bodied lmao

[floral peak]

If only we could turn off all fire alarms without cutting the cameras

[rocky plover]

ikr....

[rocky plover]

yea, i've been having better outcomes completely solo rather than with AI on hard mode

[pseudo hull]

i swear the teams also give themself orders

[rocky plover]

the cameras come back after 3 minutes though, im not sure about fire alarms

[pseudo hull]

its so weird

[sonic sleet]

It’s just so nice having them to cuff and secure and also having the additional flash support

[pseudo hull]

did not know that

wonder if they'll fix it

[rocky plover]

i hate when during a clear command, 1 of the AI goes solo, wherever he decides to lol and does his own thing

[rocky plover]

i think it's kinda intended tbh XD but who knows .....

[pseudo hull]

it doesnt make any sense so its most likely a bug

maybe they dont want people wedging every door on the map

[rocky plover]

imagine if the whole ammo refill thing isn't even intended to begin with hahahha

[pseudo hull]

imagine just c2ing every door

[rocky plover]

ye that's what i think as well

[sonic sleet]

Yk I did a multiplayer run one time where one person ran a shield a stab vest and 15 sets of wedges to fix that issue lmao

[rocky plover]

damn 30 wedges lmao

[sonic sleet]

It would’ve worked great if I had actual teammates w more then one brain cell

[rocky plover]

[grim seal]

dont know about cameras but the alarms do stay off if ur talking about rewiring the city

[sonic sleet]

And I just can’t trust the ai w that lmao

I have it S tiered on standard but hard is just annoying asf

[floral peak]

me and metal got to 18/24 once

we died at last courtroom

[grim seal]

also can someone explain to me exactly why buckshot is better than slugs? i know that the pellets are easier to aim with but like they both bleed arteries in the end dont they?

in fact slugs also travel farther, can wallbang and even pen higher armor so i dont get it

[floral peak]

tear off limbs

[polar light]

Does anyone actually play non lethal?

[floral peak]

very easily

[floral peak]

Literally my play style

[grim seal]

is dismemberment that important if slugs can cause arterial bleeding that will kill in a few more seconds anyway?

[polar light]

Much better to just slime them than negotiate with terrorists

[floral peak]

S ranks

[sonic sleet]

I have everything Hard S tiered except new America which I have standard S tier on

[grim seal]

its kinda mandatory for commando and s ranks

[polar light]

Well not with lethal mod

[floral peak]

Dismemberment kills instantly, bleeding not

[polar light]

But for vanilla gameplay yes its required

[floral peak]

And buckshots have pretty good range

[sonic sleet]

Yeah see us console folks have to struggle and do it legit lmao

[grim seal]

sorry what i mean is like is killing them instantly that much better than just waiting a few seconds? because both are fatal

and unlike buckshot which relies on the number of pellets to proc a 50% chance, slugs will always proc bleed 100%

[floral peak]

Because while they bleeding they can fight back

[grim seal]

ah that does make sense

[sonic sleet]

I always get so close and then an AI dies or I get one tapped cross map

[floral peak]

Hit me up if needed, we can do any S rank, on any difficulty

[floral peak]

Yeah thats painful

especially floor 22

with its bullshit hallways

you can get shot from almost anywhere on floor 22

just as soon as you enter it

[sonic sleet]

Imo the second floor is the hardest (20th) after that, the staircase is the next hardest spot

[surreal pelican]

1 tap wonder

[floral peak]

you mean first floor?

[grim seal]

im testing both rn and yeah youre definitely right, thank you

[floral peak]

yo wsp kateo

[surreal pelican]

What's good brotha

[sonic sleet]

I mean technically it’s the second bc it’s up the stairs from where you spawn and you have the occasional suspects on spawn floor. And imo I’ve always had better luck w buckshot over slug

[floral peak]

we almost did Hard S ANA with metal yesterday

[surreal pelican]

I'll send u a steam friend request too

[surreal pelican]

Goddamn, what happened?

[floral peak]

we died in floor 22 courtroom

[surreal pelican]

how many ai was there

[floral peak]

we got 18/24

[surreal pelican]

in the courtroom

[floral peak]

and we locked up one in toilets

so 5

[surreal pelican]

Dude the courtroom is mental; you still need to account for potential side breaches (the holding room doors at the side)

[sonic sleet]

Another thing that pisses me off is when you clear everything including court room and there’s one random ass John wick somewhere and you go hunt him and he one taps you or a teammate or ai lol

[floral peak]

Wanna do it with us? we starting very soon

[floral peak]

So true

[wooden saddle]

Test
#🎨ron-screenshots-and-art message

Haven't noticed the word 'snuggle' on that board before.

[sonic sleet]

Or when the door to courtroom is open when you go upstairs and they trigger bomb right off the bat

[surreal pelican]

Nah, got off for tonight and I kinda gave up on hard s ana in the meantime

[floral peak]

alr then

[wooden saddle]

I've completed it so far 3x on A or A+.
Only once my whole team (incl. me) has made it out alive.

[sonic sleet]

I hopped off for a week cause I just had a baby but I’m finally back on while they’re all sleeping to try and get it done lmao

[surreal pelican]

The PTSD on ana you just cannot forget ; I went blaze of glory in courtroom

[surreal pelican]

Congratulations brotha 👏🎉

[floral peak]

Wish goodluck to me and metal, here starts our next session of Hard S ana attempts

[sonic sleet]

Thanks

[wooden saddle]

If it helps, what I do is give it a three flashbang blows with flashbang launcher. One left, one right, one in the middle.
Then my team also enters and clears with a few more flashbangs.

[surreal pelican]

My best was ana S rank standard,

Lethal best was 2 man made it out alive but 1 idiot cive died

[surreal pelican]

I offer you brothers my prayers and seals....

[sonic sleet]

Yeah I got ana standard S but fucking hard is rough

[floral peak]

Dont worry, we will do it eventually, and then help you

[wooden saddle]

Weelp, I only play standard. It's what I've got to give.

[surreal pelican]

Thx homie

For now I'm just having fun again on standard

[sonic sleet]

Once I get it done I’m never doing it again lmao

[fiery remnant]

Just brought the game trying to complete the regular campaign how TF does anyone do greased palms?

[sonic sleet]

It sucks lmao

But ANA is now officially the worst map which takes a lot bc greased palms used to suck ass

[fiery remnant]

Any tips for Greased Palms?

[rich whale]

Why would ANA suck map design wise compared to mail post map?

[deep patio]

skill issue ?

[glass heart]

abuse free lean, use lots of wedges, isolate the main warehouse, do not go past the truck in the loading area and take an LPVO/ ELCAN

and just shoot anyone with a gun thats not adams on sight

be that with less lethal or lethal munitions

[sonic sleet]

ANA makes greased palms feel like a walk on the beach now lol. Best bet, clear first building, clear left outside, enter through back bays clear left to right side, upstairs, then go to the last building. And ANA map wise isn’t bad, they just put the AI on crack lmao

[sonic sleet]

When 99% of the community is hating on how cracked the enemies are, not sure it’s a skill issue.

[fiery remnant]

So go front then right then to the truck Depot bit?

[glass heart]

i usually clear the right side out building and surrounding alleys, wedge main warehouse door in that direction, move back to main office, clear that, wedge everything that leads to warehouse, move outside, wedge off main warehouse, and clear outside until hitting the truck

[deep patio]

Yeah the enemies are crazy good, but that's very different from Greased Palms where it's a sightlines nightmare

MLO ops are defo stupidly good but at least i know where the hell they shoot from

[glass heart]

i use the truck as cover for thinning their numbers as much as possible

[sonic sleet]

Forgot to say if you go w my route, make sure to wedge the two doors that go into main warehouse and the side door on the left that goes into main as well

[glass heart]

then i move into the main warehouse

[sonic sleet]

True, except the staircase and windows on the side rooms of that floor on ana, there’s some crazy sightlines there too that you can’t hit back w a flash launcher

[chilly thorn]

Difference between AnA and Greased Palms is AnA is well designed

AnA is a skillcheck

If you dont play slow and methodical and take suspects alive you will fail

[deep patio]

Fair enough that's a bad sightline sure, BUT Greased palms is JUST bad sightlines
ANA demands discipline, Greased Palms is a dice roll where anything but a Nat 20 means getting shot from a random place that you can't shoot back from

[sonic sleet]

Other than the fact you’re an instant one tap regardless of armor/helmets. That’s my biggest pet peeve abt ana

[chilly thorn]

You get Instant one tap by literally everything in this game

[deep patio]

I really wouldn't blame that on ANA specifically, that's just BS that's in the game

[chilly thorn]

its even worse since in actual combat Greased Palms suspects are some of the least accurate in the game, Its pure dumb bad luck.

[sonic sleet]

Feel like it’s worse since the update tbh.

[chilly thorn]

I do think Luck should play a part in this update but Not as much as Greased palms

but I think random oneshots are fair, Its what makes me avoid combat the most.

[sonic sleet]

I feel like since the update they cranked the AI on crack on every map tbh

[chilly thorn]

They are actually weaker then they were last time, your in complete placebo

apart from the MLO

[rich whale]

AI just aims for your arms and legs more now rather than the vest.

[sonic sleet]

Which in turn means more damage done to you, and harder overall

Bc you have no coverage on arms and legs

[chilly thorn]

You do have cover in the form of taking physical cover

[sonic sleet]

True that, but also something you had before too lol.

[inner veldt]

I feel bad for not S or A rank lethal obsession in first or 2nd try...And lost two guys and died three time ;-;, jesus christ that prick use a god damn Assault rifle and cant surrender unless being slap with 40mm grenade flash on his face

Any tips for Ides of March ??

Im thinking to run the heavy armor again

[wooden lintel]

Wedges, c2 and nades

[inner veldt]

Still traumatized from Lethal Obsession

[inner jewel]

Anyone else having shit luck with multiplayer? Every other lobby I join is either players that AFK and then leave, closing the lobby with it, or I get kicked by administrators for no reason whatsoever while setting my loadout

[final ember]

thats one of the easiest if you dont kick down every door you see

[rich whale]

How tho, you dont have hostages to worry about and only handful of suspects

[final ember]

^

[fiery remnant]

What about clearing the actual wearhouse that's where I'm struggling tbf

I'm going lethal with LPVO but I just get clarted from 50 light years away

[final ember]

tbf, the suspect AI is extra cracked to make up for the low numbers and lack of hostages
but it's over before you know it

[rich whale]

1 advice, master CQB

Thats just it

[final ember]

yea no I'm saying it's still easy to do

[inner veldt]

I use the front door. no trip wire death, more like i died from the main target got me killed. The two guys lost ?? because of the main target.

I just joined the game 3 days ago, didnt play much yet.

[glass heart]

i take the front half first, going upstairs, clearing it, then going back down

[inner veldt]

After the two death i use the cellar afterward.

[glass heart]

then i have one team hold long (left side) and clear right with the other

[inner veldt]

Sorry for being such a sucker officer ;-;. Im still getting used with the stuff in the game.

[final ember]

...why didnt you go there from the beginning

it's easier to move up

[rich whale]

Thats barely answers how you died tho.

[inner veldt]

I thought i can still complete with same approach

[final ember]

always go from the basement, it sometimes has like 2/3 suspects in it
and it's better for systematic clearing in general

[final ember]

it answers that he got his ass shot to pieces by one of them

happens, especially on this map

[rich whale]

Like died to direct confrontation or got flanked?

[final ember]

they're extra lethal, ideally you should use flash, stinger and whatever

[inner veldt]

First attempt, i use the front door. We go in, normal, then the gas mask guy got me, i sorta get panicked because i didnt expect the full auto.

2nd attempt, same door, go in, gas mask guy down, got killed by the main target.

3rd attempt, both targets down, one guy died in the process, main door still. D rank.

4th attempt, cellar entry, all good. Gas mask apprehended and during cuff the main target jumps out and killed me.

5th attempt, Cellar again, this time main target got one of my men again.

6th attempt, using the flash launcher, succeed, S rank, no casualty.

[final ember]

good question
on this map though, you dont eve need to get flanked to get lit up

lol

[inner veldt]

This is the summary of what happened.

[inner veldt]

Next one is march of ides, got any advice ??? So same thing wont happen.

[glass heart]

go around the main area counterclockwise using wedges as you go

[pearl egret]

are wedges single use?

[glass heart]

no you can retrieve and re-use them

[final ember]

well, I can tell you that it also has door traps, although not as frequently

[final ember]

should go back to your inv when you remove them

also you get 2 for 1 supply point

[glass heart]

you clear the laundry room right away tho, then once you reach your holding element (go around with one team, hold with another, then move center) you start removing wedges and clearing rooms

there are 4 apartments, connected in sets of 2

1201 with 1202 and 1203 with 1204

if you wedge properly you dont need to worry about anything beyond your apartment of choice

[final ember]

honestly even wedging every apartment can be a pain because suspects like to straggle around in hallways

then some other knobheads come looking

[inner veldt]

I didnt really use the wedge even though i have it on. Im mostly just camera, breach and flash or stinger, enter and gun blaze the enemy.

And i dont put up any strategy, i just briefing, gear up and then head out.

[glass heart]

if you do proper clearance you dont need to worry about tangos in the halls

you just deal with them as appropriate and move on with wedging

[lavish ember]

Yoooo anyone tryna play

[final ember]

you can only hope that they dont come out of the apartments after all that ruckus

[inner veldt]

So....must definitely plan and then gear up and head out yeah ?

[final ember]

I pass on wedging everything and just clear the rooms one by one

[glass heart]

you have a containment element in case that happens

[inner veldt]

Dont just briefing, gear, head out ?

[glass heart]

i wedge everything behind me, my containment element prevents flanking, my frontal security prevents attacks from the front, and my wedges provide rear security

this has gotten me through dozens of completions of this map

[cerulean sandal]

Yo what do yall think is the best pistol. Personally I like the g18-c

[glass heart]

it helps to know the map beforehand as much as you can

[final ember]

just get a bunch of wedges if you're afraid of suspects coming from everyhwere

[glass heart]

clearance gets a lot easier when you know all of them by heart

always get lots of wedges

i have 20 wedges on my team minimum

[fiery remnant]

Tbf if anyone wants to carry me please hit me up I'm sick of trying to use this ai :3

[final ember]

against armor? Five-Seven with AP rounds
against soft targets? USP45 with JHP rounds

[glass heart]

the mkv and its not close either

[cerulean sandal]

I usually cary one of each ammunition

I love the g18-C because of its high mag cap

[inner veldt]

Sorry if my gameplay quality is this bad till i got two guy killed in a really easy map. (lethal Obsession)

But im open to any advices i can get to get better

[cerulean sandal]

Use freelean to maximize ur cover

[wooden lintel]

mirror gun and slowly walking close to the doors

[inner veldt]

How does freelean work ??? I tapped that button in shoot range and tutor but seems like didnt do much

[cerulean sandal]

You use the movment button to adjust your lean helping you get better cover,clear stairs and get enemies that are akwardly placed

[inner veldt]

I see

[pearl egret]

how do i get this fisa guy to get arrested in greased palms

ive tried meleeing him and blasting him with stingers

[wooden lintel]

blast him with the shotgun, in the face

[pearl egret]

istg im just gonna shoot him

one of my guys is dead

[cerulean sandal]

Try using the flashbang launcher jf not try to incapacitate him

[final ember]

are you going S rank? because if not...
what the game doesnt tell you is that you can still arrest important suspects with bullets. shoot them twice in the chest and they're incapacitated but not dead

[pearl egret]

thanks

[wooden lintel]

lol that depends on the gun, some modded guns (if you use it) one shoots them

[cerulean sandal]

Yo guys what is the gun that deals the most damage?(for valley of the dolls)

[wooden lintel]

qjb201

[final ember]

well yeah but I'm talking vanilla guns

[wooden lintel]

yeah

[final ember]

any weapon that uses the 7,62x51mm
look at the weapon in the loadout menu and it'll tell you what ammo it uses

shotguns are good too

[wooden lintel]

but i believe if you shoot him in the heart with high calliber gun you can actually kill him, not sure tho

[cerulean sandal]

Thanks

[hollow finch]

RoN doesnt have vital areas like that. its chest&stomach, limbs and head as the only separators

[wooden lintel]

sometimes they take 3 shoots from shotgun, sometimes 1

[final ember]

nope, the game has no hitbox for vital organs
you can sever an artery, though
you notice when they start bleeding like a faucet from one wound and they hyperventilate

[wooden lintel]

alright then

i'm playing mostly modded guns, modded gore etc, so with lmg i can shoot their limb off with one bullet

[final ember]

sounds kinda boring ngl

[wooden lintel]

800 hours in the game

[final ember]

one bullet? damn 😭

[final ember]

same
but now I understand you

[wooden lintel]

i want fun lol

[cursive minnow]

There's those that enjoy carnage and those that enjoy slow & tactical.

[final ember]

id use mods if they would get actually updated

[wooden lintel]

today i got postal dude TOC voice mod, wish i could get it earlier, it's damn hilarious

[wooden lintel]

i like both

[final ember]

what you trying to get your petition signed from suspects?

[wooden lintel]

lol

i killed civi and he said this "great, our S rank is totally fucked"

[pearl egret]

is the easternmost part of the warehouse inaccessible?

in greased palms

[cursive minnow]

There’s a good bit that’s still working and updated now. There’s a starter pack list here, but it’s not currently available, you can join the modding discord to view it. #🔧modding-chat message

[wooden lintel]

lots of mods got updated'

[hollow finch]

especially customization mods mostly work even unupdated

[final ember]

Nexusmods is a damn graveyard

maybe im just looking in the wrong places

[hollow finch]

what?

[final ember]

dead mods all over

[hollow finch]

there are like 4-5 pages of updated stuff within a few weeks of DLC release

[hollow finch]

sort by recently update/recently released

[final ember]

didnt check the boiling point DLC
I guess ill have a look

[hollow finch]

ofc theres gonna be more ood mods than up to date ones

[final ember]

just got annoyed at the amount of ''oh that looks nic-..oh nvm its old''

like damn

[inner veldt]

March Ides, S first try, and nobody needs to be kill shot by the team, thank god.

[pearl egret]

fucking finally i got everyone in greased palms

jesus christ

[warm gate]

Trust me after that hell of overstimulating nightmare everything else is pretty easy

[pearl egret]

all of my limbs were injured lol

and one of my guys was dead

[warm gate]

He shall be remembered

[wooden lintel]

a new america says hello

[desert island]

is jhp 762 still better than ap 762

[mystic palm]

Does negotiator affects the first suspect or the first yell u do?

[regal tundra]

yes except for lvl 4 plates

[regal tundra]

first compliance yell from either you or ai team

works on every suspect but only the first yell that they hear

[mystic palm]

Ok

[regal tundra]

with two negotiators you get 50% chance as well

[amber hearth]

Judge shouts “please get down” so much

[opaque vector]

how do you unlock judges appartment cutscene?

[ebon isle]

trying to s rank relapse and i would just like to personally thank whoever turned the "terrorists" aka uspsa grand masters up to fucking 11 to where they are mag dumbing me through walls., calling out my position from 3 rooms over when i havent made a sound, and tanking 4 bean bag rounds to the center body and still willing to fight as they are also being pelted with pepper balls. would also like to thank the acadamy for sending me 4 noodle arm officer doofys that cant break the 1 round a second rule that we have at the range or throw a flash bang farther than 5 feet.

[regal tundra]

s rank a new america on either commander mode or quickplay. wont work in multiplayer

[signal patrol]

Is the music from the new DLC made by the same composer?

Because it sounds like it is

HE DID

[desert island]

relapse is easy

no long distance shots

and no bs clutter

[thick dome]

oh ga51, how is love thee

[sleek dome]

Monaghan: "POLICE I WANNA SEE THOSE HANDS!"

[amber hearth]

Sounds like plz

[sonic sleet]

I stg I lose brain cells playing w people off Xbox LFG posts

[regal tundra]

just got "my eyes, it burns" on steam

its not bugged but its definitely buggy

or perhaps, just unclear in terms of when the 5 second timer starts, what is considered proper gas damage, and when a suspect counts as incapped/killed

[rocky plover]

So 22 can happen on hard then? Since 23 is minimum (22+VIP)

But I also had 26 happen (26+VIP) so how does that even work

If 25 is listed as the max

[floral peak]

Max is 26

[rocky plover]

Same no idea how it unlocked as I had tried multiple times but then it unlocked when I wasn't even trying and I had just restarted the match lol, either it was delayed to activate or something else is wrong with the description of the achievement.

[rocky plover]

Ye I swear we had 26 on our runs (26+VIP)

[floral peak]

Yeah I remember

Next time screenshot it

[rocky plover]

Every time I try to screenshot it acts up cos of the double monitor but il try

[rocky plover]

I'm gonna sleep in a bit, work early tomorrow, what time you're available again to retry?

[floral peak]

Anytime tomorrow

[spark haven]

Finally sleeper agent achievement done

[rocky plover]

Alright I got work till 4pm your time then got an appointment so maybe after 5pm your time

[spark haven]

Solo as well

[regal tundra]

im not convinced that the VIP isn't included in the count

when i did programmed psychosis i counted VERY carefully, flower man was number 24

and the end screen showed 24

[rocky plover]

You could be right, I'm not totally certain tbh but it's weird if 23 is minimum on hard and I had 22

I only had it once however usually always 24/25/26

[regal tundra]

I didnt have a delay on unlocking unlike some others, which is weird. But i did neutralize 5 total suspects. So i think its probably an issue with when the gas damage is actually considered to be inflicted, or maybe something to do with when an incapped suspect is counted. i seemed to get the achievement after a guy bled out, but the timing is so fast its hard to say

22 is crazy Lol

10 suspects on top floor tho

6 on first, 6 on second, 10 on top

[rocky plover]

Yea no idea tbh a guy said he got it after he quit to main menu

[regal tundra]

that's RoN luck

[rocky plover]

Maximum I had was 11 on the first floor lmao

Shit was crazy

[regal tundra]

thats when you know you need to lock in for psychosis

all my best runs had 8-10 on the first floor

[rocky plover]

Yeah lol

Hard S left on that map then everything is fucking done

[regal tundra]

Lol good luck

hope you guys use the flash launcher at least

[rocky plover]

Thanks gonna need it been trying for days

Yea we are

[regal tundra]

those 4 second stuns make it so brutal tho

top floor especially must be a nightmare if its packed

[rocky plover]

Yea so is ammo economy 😅

[regal tundra]

true

[rocky plover]

Until we get to the ammo box

[regal tundra]

which at that point you probably have 19 guys down anyway

[rocky plover]

Yea outside of courtroom is the hardest part, spiral staircase area top floor

[regal tundra]

the run killer room

[rocky plover]

Ikr...

[regal tundra]

sometimes in my experience the guys up there rush downstairs and start firing off

Like, blindly firing. not sure whats proccing that behavior

actually both my best runs took advantage of that, they left only one man up guarding the courtroom doors

[rocky plover]

They like to go the other side of spiral staircase and ambush me from behind while I'm still trying to peek near the metal detector

[regal tundra]

Oh god i hate when that happens

[rocky plover]

So annoying

[spark haven]

Sleeper agent and S ranked it as well even though it's been S ranked LOL

[rocky plover]

Nice!

[regal tundra]

did you end up arresting guys or just kill them

[spark haven]

Arresting

After like 150 runs trying to kill

[rocky plover]

Yea I did it the killing way and it took around 30 restarts lol

[spark haven]

Even though arresting method still took like 3 hours as they kept bugging out and wouldn't move when I told them

[rocky plover]

Was getting to 12 or so kills and running out of suspects

[regal tundra]

yeah, that was my experience with the rush/kill method

just too hard to cross the map in time

[spark haven]

And I see the DLC achievements are still bugged on Xbox I think

[rocky plover]

Depends how many spawn near the package as well

[spark haven]

Getting your sea legs and from house to home. Rest of my achievements are main game stuff like ironman mode, don't lose a officer, get all customizations, all unique traits. Rest are the BP DLC

[fallow agate]

Im so tempted to let city hall blow up because this new america mission is killing me

[spark haven]

Same LOL tried it like 5 times and even normal AI get killed from like the first guy they see

Let alone trying that mission solo on hard

[fervent dove]

dude i keep trying to s rank neon tomb but i continue to get blown up or one shotted at the LAST few seconds

[cedar walrus]

I got to the last room of A New America. I had at least a minute and 45 seconds. I had my team stack up and stinger in the room. When the door opens, sting goes in, shots go off... and one random bullet hits me and I die

[fallow agate]

Whats the best way to get suspects to not kill civs? Doing the yacht mission rn and they just start killing them after like 3-5 minutes

[hollow finch]

find the VIP suspect

[cedar walrus]

Speed, and CS. My opinion is to gas the fuck out of it

[hollow finch]

if hes dead/arrested they will never kill civs

[cedar walrus]

My option works if you cant find him. Just put CS in each room as you go

[hollow finch]

if you target his spawns off rip you can get him within 1-2 minutes pretty consistently

[spark haven]

Find the VIP as was said and they don't start killing. That mission was pretty easy s rank for me. But I also used the M32 Flash

[fallow agate]

Is he the guy wearing the king outfit (idk what its called)

[mystic palm]

Why sometimes MLO are affected by flashbans but 1 time when they were breaching my team they werent affected???🤔

[hollow finch]

Sahid yeah. i think its called a Thawb, and the headwear is a Keffiyeh

[worn bridge]

Anybody have any more ANA tips? I got screwed over because a suspect ran down the stairs of the 3rd floor and one tapped me in the back so I need a new strategy

[fallow agate]

I noticed this to. It's kinda bullshit

Like I understand gas cause they wear masks but the RNG flashbangs are ridiculous

[spark haven]

Thought they fixed those old DLC achievements but guess not RIP

[deep stratus]

Servers down? Crashed twice

[hollow finch]

not that i know. you wouldnt crash because of that either

[fiery vortex]

They executed the flower man. We're so fucking going into federal torture black sites

[sonic sleet]

Yeah it’s hit or miss. Sometimes they eat a whole rotary of flashes and sometimes they go down instantly. Hard telling. And they never fixed the sprinting animation during compliance that they claimed the fixed

[placid kindle]

anywyas

[proven pilot]

so what do you all think - will VOID add in Checkin' In with the new DLC?

[placid kindle]

yeah void be dogshit when it comes to what players want

[tacit gull]

no

[proven pilot]

yeah
we want our drone, we want our ladder, we want out sniper ❗

[placid kindle]

the sniper and drone is actually a good concept

(mm swat 4 days)

[tacit gull]

both the sniper and drone are essentially obsolete with the helicopter

[proven pilot]

ladder is a bit iffy tbf tho, kind of not many reasons to being it along

[placid kindle]

i think
sniper in a heli on the dlc missions would be sickk

[wary talon]

Noobs

[proven pilot]

but what about a place where you couldn't bring a chopper?

[placid kindle]

laddy is useless

[latent iris]

Does anyone think a .50 Beowulf would be something?

[proven pilot]

legit

[proven pilot]

not in a SWAT team

maybe in idk Alaska

[tacit gull]

then the drone would probably not be able to go there either

and the ladder has no place in the current game maps, there's absolutely nowhere to climb up to

[wary talon]

Noobs

[proven pilot]

ok

[fiery vortex]

ik it's because I hit body armor but MLO are built different. 2-3 buckshot (with spread choke centre mass) on their neck and they tanked it. Played the flashbang animation. THEY WALKED IT OFF WHILE BLEEIDNG OUT AND SHOT ME TO DEATH

[proven pilot]

they fight to the last man, absolutely bonkers

and fighting a blacksite full of those fuckers?
nightmare

[fiery vortex]

yeah buy like damn their neck SHOULD NOT EXIST THAT WAS 16 PELLETS OF 12 GAUGE

HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU BREATHING and than WALK IT OFF TO SHOOT ME without dying, going to injure another teammate

[placid kindle]

A there high
B there a cult
C there judge but not swat insted there former swat

[fiery vortex]

yeah just, damn these fuckers are dedicated to hating

[proven pilot]

so judge can tank a neck shot?

never knew LSPD SWAT was built like that

[tired jungle]

I think you just.. missed

[proven pilot]

why does the MLO call us D Platoon like a bunch of contrarians anyways

[fiery vortex]

no I physically cannot have missed

He reacted, I was right next to him

He genuinely is just him

[proven pilot]

nah he said he was bleeding, as in blood pooling to the floor like with JHP

[fiery vortex]

MLO, do not fuck around

[proven pilot]

and ive been killed by a guy bleeding out before

[tired jungle]

Yeah i meant.. the majority of the pellets could've just missed. a couple hitting would cause bleeding, otherwise the limb would just come off

[wary talon]

noobs

[proven pilot]

what did you beat ana s rank

dude is Duffi a bot?

[fiery vortex]

no no it was spread choke he reacted I know it hit because I was in "you are physically too close to miss"

[wary talon]

No

[fiery vortex]

Mlo are GENUINELY him

[proven pilot]

then why you callin us noobs over and over

[tired jungle]

The choke still doesn't make it a single projectile

[wary talon]

high graphic noobs

[proven pilot]

uhhhh nice graphics card then?

[tired jungle]

Like being too close to miss is kinda like.. not a thing.

[wary talon]

noobs I use a Nividai Geforce 256

[fiery vortex]

yeah, it makes it more damn likely tho that because I hit him that alot of pellets did

[tired jungle]

Mf in denial

[proven pilot]

ohhhhh im glad it works for you noobs

[fallow agate]

So am I just screwed if the suspects on new america dont get affected by bangs?

Like seriously how am I supposed to know if they worked or not?

[tired jungle]

From the audio cue...?

Flashbangs have a much larger aoe than 9 bangs

[dusty gale]

Have they fixed the achievements issue ?

[proven pilot]

with eyes? no idts

[dark patrol]

My buddy is pisses me off rather than carry a flash on new murcia he's carrying a taser

Like wtf is even the point of carrying the taser

[proven pilot]

right who tf boutta surrender on ana

[dark patrol]

He's like well we have to arrest the bomber so I think it can be useful there

There is 4 mofos in that room with him it won't be

[proven pilot]

yeah, a flashbang works best bc the triggerman is a massive coward and everyone else gets a lead makeover

[molten wasp]

What's funny about when I completed ANA on hard and got S rank, Kickstart my heart was playing

[proven pilot]

its just the power of Motley Crue

[molten wasp]

IT WAS STARTING MY HEART I WAS PANICKING

[dark patrol]

Also who picks the lock locking gun it saves so little time

[molten wasp]

I do, It's faster and quieter

[wooden lintel]

it's just faster

[stoic thistle]

How do the suspects hear locks being picked anyway?

[valid raven]

is it just me or does every law-enforcement in the US seam to have a SWAT team

[wooden lintel]

they dont

[valid raven]

Even the post office does

[wooden lintel]

you just need to walk slowly to the door

[stoic thistle]

Look, if you mess with the mailman, you deserve whatever comes to you.

[valid raven]

it seems like it’s mostly mail fraud and mail truck robbery

Although i’ve never heard of male trucks being robbed

and most of the time the people committing mail fraud are just people trying to steal money and they aren’t heavily, armed, and violent

I don’t imagine they get deployed often

Apparently, it’s actually the oldest law enforcement agency

[wooden lintel]

how about school? most of the time people committing school shooting are just people trying to kill people, bruh

[proven pilot]

thats different. nobody picks locks at a school shooting

[wooden lintel]

picks locks? bro what?

[molten wasp]

If you pick lock It with a multi tool rather than a pick lock gun, they'll investigate the noise

[wintry barn]

In trying to S a new america going in hard mode, one player (in MP) full heavy armor, shield to tank back damage, full grenade launcher but its still impossible to do it

It will take a lot of practice to do this mission

Its impossible when you try to arrest someone the single bullet they have time to shoot before getting stunned, leaves you in red screen xddd

[grand patrol]

The AI text accent is very heavy in the latest DLCs voice lines lmao

[pseudo hull]

is peeking a door meant to be silent or can people hear it

like suspects

[fallow agate]

So is the MLO hand in hand with the CIA in this game? Like I know the MLO is a cult but it goes much deeper than that.

[stoic thistle]

They were created by the fictional version of the CIA but it's unknown if they're taking orders from them.

[fallow agate]

Ohh interesting. Im guessing they both tie into the sepulchre ARG correct?

[jolly verge]

Peeking the door does not make any noise

[stoic thistle]

I don't know.

Are you familiar with the whole incorruptible law enforcement theory?

[fallow agate]

I am not

[stoic thistle]

Basically, the USIA tried to make police officers who would always obey orders and would never be corrupted. They were doing this in order to create and authoritarian police state in America. The MLO were the failed first and second trial versions.

[fallow agate]

Ohhhh. Is that why Gerard and the MLO always call Judge a puppet?

[stoic thistle]

Yeah.

[regal tundra]

peeking should be silent although they can still see you through the peeked gap if they are standing in a way that puts their LOS directly at it

pressing "open door" at any point even during a peek is not silent but I believe the AI only "hear" it and become suspicious if they actually have LOS on the door

[stoic thistle]

I personally think that the theory is a bit up in the air because the green gloves guy says that there is no greater plan for America.

[fallow agate]

I mean no matter which theory is right, the USIA is definitely sketchy as hell

But the MLO is just as evil. Both are bad sides of the same coin

[stoic thistle]

Killing people for no reason is quite bad.

[fallen fog]

I’m willing to trade the multi attachment system for tattoos on both arms

“It’s pointless cause you can’t see your right arm”

[cursive minnow]

@dusk oar S requires no suspect or civilian deaths.

[fallen fog]

Whoooooooooooo caresssszzzz

[dusk oar]

ok i see thank you

[hardy tendon]

There’s multiple tattoos that occupy both arms. Idjit

[fallen fog]

Ik there’s like one or two

I need to unlock em all

[pearl egret]

can you breach trapped doors with a shotgun?

or will it explode

[fallen fog]

I think it’ll just explode🤔

[hardy tendon]

Yeah u can but you have to stand back. Same for c2

[regal tundra]

talked to a few people between discord and steam and I think we have a pretty consistent method for getting "my eyes, it burns" now

feel free to DM if anyone wants to try it. would be interested to see if this achievement works for everyone now

[celest edge]

Does the trickster have a clipping issue for anyone else?

[solemn quest]

If you shoot the bottom right, it won't blow up and you can disarm it.

[hardy tendon]

Not true

[solemn quest]

I've done it

Or at least you have to shoot the side with the hinge

[hardy tendon]

The explosive energy of the shotgun sets off traps

[solemn quest]

In my experience it doesn't

Unless they changed it

[fervent dove]

what’s the easiest way to s rank neon tomb? i’ve legit been trying for hours

[regal tundra]

flash launcher, wedge the dance floor, clear bottom floor first, go upstairs through the pool area, clear one side of the top floor then the other, then move down into the dancefloor and bathrooms

and some luck

[crystal tundra]

also go fast, let your ai mates zip em up

[grave shale]

Yo what's up with the new protests outside the police station?

[fervent dove]

maybe this is where i’ve been messing up cause i take my time and mirror doors

[stoic thistle]

||Local humanitarian got killed by terrorists, proved to be the last straw for people in Los Suenos.||

[crystal tundra]

they start capping civs pretty quick

also make sure you disarm the bombvests

[fervent dove]

kinda like elephant?

[crystal tundra]

yeah its a race against time

honestly one of the tougher ones to srank in basegame

[regal tundra]

as far as i know there's no execution timer on neon tomb

wheres like elephant, mirage at sea etc have a 2-3 min timer

[wintry barn]

Guys im doing a new america on single player MP but there is allways evidence missing and i loose my mind going around the whole map but i never find the las weapon evidence or whatever it is

I restarted 3 times after doing all objectives but i never find the last piece of evidence

Idk if weapons dissapear or what is happening

[cedar walrus]

Do it with AI and if you really wanna run it solo, have them hold at the start. When you clear the OBJ, you get the search and secure command

Thats what I usually do if im in the mode for solo

What you cant find, they will

[scarlet wing]

i just got the platinum trophy on ps5

[halcyon mountain]

Maybe they’re tired of their government protecting pedophiles??

[dusky nacelle]

I swear hide and Seek is damn near impossible on hard

[wintry barn]

Doing cancel arrest makes suspects not pick guns again if i leave them alone the rest of the mission? I never knew it

[wintry barn]

For me almost every mission is near impossible in hard mode

[dusky nacelle]

Im on the last one

lowest grade was a B thankfully and that was for 4 missions

[wintry barn]

A great america?

Thats mission is demonic man

[dusky nacelle]

no for the normal campaign

[wintry barn]

Oh

[dusky nacelle]

I can't afford the DLC's T-T

[wintry barn]

Its like 10 bucks

The dlc

[dusky nacelle]

Ready or Not was gifted to me

[wintry barn]

Oh

[dusky nacelle]

lmao

[wintry barn]

I had S on every single mission but with the hard mode uptaded, thats extremely hard

[somber wolf]

Proof?

[wintry barn]

My best tip is shoot to kill unless you catch a supect from the back. If not, shoot to kill is not worth to even try to make them surrender on hard mode

[wintry barn]

It was when the Home invasion was released. I left the game many months and i came back on the boiling point one, when i saw how hard mode was updated, i went nuts

Also im lazy but definetly if i lock in, i make the S rank again. The real problem is in hard mode 😭

[dusky nacelle]

I only made it half way through hard mode with S runs lmao

[stuck jay]

Fav dlc chat?

Or mission?

[wintry barn]

Problem is that you have to yell 1.000 times and spam almost all the beam ammo. Because AI enemy is not realistic and has problems with real ROE wich makes the S ranks almost imposible in hard mode because enemies dont surrender even when 5 people point at them from 4 meters, so its unrealistic and should be fixed

[dusky nacelle]

I did it with pepper guns

Bean bag shotguns for smaller maps/missions though

but Greased Palms?!?...

[stuck jay]

How do u even get a S rank I did everything correctly and still can’t get one.

What do I need to do for one

[dusky nacelle]

You can't incapacitate anyone period.

everyone has to be detained alive

[wintry barn]

Bean shotgun is the best, but for bots, give them AR peperball because if they go for headshot with that shotgun, i can incapacitate or even kill and you loose your S

Dont give them Shotgun

[stuck jay]

I think I’ll stick to B and A ranks

[deep patio]

wise choice

[dusky nacelle]

I know it is but I'm a little too trained... I always trained to shoot the head so bean bag shotguns were inaffective lmao

[wintry barn]

Actually i saw a guy doing A great america on hard mode, in solo MP with flash grenade launcher and S rank

[jolly verge]

Swat ai can't headshot kill with beanbag

[wintry barn]

1 hour and 22 minutes he took to do it on S

[wintry barn]

If for any reason they hit it, it messes the S rank, with the AR that will never happen

[dusky nacelle]

I just saw that

that's absurd

[jolly verge]

Like I said, they can't do it

[idle burrow]

That being said it is uncommon for that to happen, so I'd do that anyway

[pliant juniper]

Could anyone recommend what gear I should use for No Good Deed on the Boiling point dlc S tier? I’ve been struggling with it.

[vague sleet]

Is there a mod to remove the enemy's ability to see through walls and 0 in on my position exactly when I get a grenade out?

There's bad luck and then there's intended game design. Bringing out my grenades issues a fucking alarm bell to anyone nearby.

[pliant juniper]

#🔧modding-chat

[vague sleet]

Sure why not? I'll (female dog) about it there too!

I'm convinced that Neon Tomb is currently impossible, due to the recent buffs that The Hand received. Sidearms are less effective than nonlethals and they can see through walls, revealing themselves only when I lower my weapon for any other equipment.

[lost inlet]

[vague sleet]

In a word: FFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUU!!!!!!!

I'm trying for a kind of pseudo Iron Man run, where I don't count failures due to actual bugs, but I do restart totally on actual mistakes. Neon Tomb currently appears to be the most difficult mission of the entire game. More difficult than Hide & Seek, Relapse, or Sweaty Palms. This is partially due to the fact that sidearms don't register to center-of-mass shots against The Hand. I'd consider this a bug if they weren't literally wearing military armor.

tl;dr - rage.

[spark haven]

Do they? I ran through S rank on all main maps on normal with AI having 2 shotguns and 2 with pepper ball and I used thr M32 flash. They didn't kill a single person from a headshot.

[agile cargo]

I dropped the game for the lack of support regarding the achievements

I came now to check if they fixed it, but seems that it ain`t gonna happen

[spark haven]

Nope still stuck at 85 and 88% for the old DLC achievements for getting them all. Even spent like 6 hours+ the last few days and got sleeper agent done today

[agile cargo]

I've tried sleeper agent a few times, but didn't lose too much time on it, since I'll still have the bugged achievements to do

[pearl pasture]

Does anyone know why there is achievements for getting all achievements in home invasion and dark waters
(From house to home and Getting your sea legs) but none for boiling point.

[mossy bloom]

for S rank would i want 2 negotiators or 2 pacifists or 1 of each

[pearl pasture]

I just got medal of valor today and I think it doesn't really matter, the thing that carried me was the flash launcher (M23A1)

[lost inlet]

You can bring AP 5.7 for that level.

Or .50 AE.

[mossy bloom]

i did the base game but rn im trying to S rank dlc's and some of them are kinda hard so i just wanted to know so i could min-max my team

[pearl pasture]

then negotiators I think

[vague sleet]

I was thinking about that, for sure. Thanks for the heads up. My biggest concern about bringing hand cannons is that...well, they're practically hand cannons. I have a difficult enough time as is maintaining good accuracy with a shield and a flashlight y'know? At any rate, thanks again for the advice fam.

[mossy bloom]

Ill try using that more then. thanks !

[lost inlet]

You have more time line up your shot with the help of laser since you’re using shield.

Or just use JHP and shoot pretty much anywhere on the suspect.

[warm gate]

They should give us lightish red as a color option for outfits

[lost inlet]

It’s a one shot regardless.

[still pawn]

Just died to a guy on Sinuous Trail after I shot him twice point blank with beanbag shotty and even melee him just for him to unload his mag the next second. What an experience.

[vague sleet]

Yeah, that's a good point.

[vague sleet]

Wouldn't hollow point screw me over though, given that they're rocking military armor?

[vague sleet]

Sinuous trail can be rough. The damn data center is so tight and close quarters that I never bring anything even resembling a longarm.

[lost inlet]

Not for the .50 AE, its damage multipliers are so high, it brute strength the damage reduction and incaps them in one shot anyway.

[vague sleet]

Well hot damn! Alright then. I'll have to give it a shot. Cheers!

[shrewd spire]

im mad as hell why do the boiling point guys have the penetration of a fat 7.62 round but my 7.62 is made of nerf bullet foam

[mental ivy]

armor piercing .357 is good at incapacitation

If there is a certain suspect on a map the game wants you to take alive

[lost inlet]

Actually no, AP is what one shot them on the chest, JHP just one shot on lvl 2 only, 2 shot is needed for lvl 3.

There’s a spreadsheet for how guns works and penetration value for each bullets in the pinned.

[vague sleet]

Oh ok sweet. I'll probably just stick with ap. I don't plan on getting too fancy. I just want results.

[lost inlet]

It only pen lvl2.

[cedar walrus]

I used to do AP in my primary and JHP in my secondary, but I found it better to rock AP in both. It doesnt matter on a headshot, and honestly you shouldn't stop shooting till the suspect goes down

[karmic raven]

Can I just say...fuck Ides of March. I went into the main penthouse room, cleared it with the AI team, and thought I was done with it enough to go to the next room. Nope. As we were leaving the room, these two guys pop up out of absolutely fucking NOWHERE and kills two members of my team and then me before I can turn around and get a shot on him.

I had either A+ ranked or S ranked every mission before that and then I got hit with an F rank because of that. 😭

[glossy thunder]

mine just run half ap and half jhp

[high imp]

So this was my latest experience of leviathan, it felt like A.I was pre-firing doors and running flanks really well, this level does have alot of sneaky gaps though. https://x.com/BiscuTMonkeY/status/2034783732893458892?s=20

[wild pier]

So I don't know how often this gets asked- but it's been a question since day one of the release. I am on steam and bought the digital deluxe edition. Do I need to buy Boiling Point? Because I still don't have it

[atomic locust]

Yes the deluxe stuff doesn’t give you free dlc

For boiling point

[cursive minnow]

From the Ready or Not steam page:

So yes boiling point is included.

But I will ask, are you sure you bought the Digital Deluxe Edition and not the LSPD Bundle? The Deluxe Edition only became available with the release of Boiling Point on March 12th, it didn’t exist prior. What did exist was the LSPD Bundle, which only included the two DLCs before Boiling Point.

[molten wasp]

So It's canon that judge wears a Hawaiian shirt

[wild pier]

Ohhh ok thanks for letting me know that's probably what it was

[dusky nacelle]

idk this made me laugh so hard lmao

[still pawn]

WOOOO finally beat and got an S on Sinuous Trail

[craggy fable]

is the Out West achievment bugged? i just completed rust belt using ONLY the magnum and didnt get the achievement. no night vision, grenades, mirros gun, nothing. im on standard difficulty and alone in a multiplayer lobby with no bots

[gritty lava]

Congratulations

Now do 3 letter triad

He's ready

[green arrow]

Did you use a picklock?

[craggy fable]

Yes

Not the gun but a regular one

[fading tangle]

that explains it

[green arrow]

Yeah

[craggy fable]

What the freak 💔

So I just kick down the doors?

[green arrow]

Yup

[fading tangle]

and if your legs are broken
tell your teammates to kick the door

[craggy fable]

Oki, thank you

[craggy fable]

I’m playing solo with no bots

[fading tangle]

then maybe don't break your completely healthy legs that haven't taken one shot after one kick to a crippled old door

[craggy fable]

I haven’t been, if anything I’ll just go around

[fading tangle]

cannot kick door with broken legs

[wintry inlet]

Guys, I just unlocked 'My Eyes, It Burns' with thanks to @rocky plover and @regal tundra

It is definately not bugged. Will take some screenshots now of best strat. I got it on my 3rd go running Bank Vault map.

[fading tangle]

sometimes i feel like I can kick more doors effectively with legs that have taken shots than completely unharmed legs

[fading tangle]

definitietatilatity*

[rocky plover]

Nice!

@dusk oar almost all suspects incap/dead lol that's why no S