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[mystic palm]

The switch deactives the cams

[rocky plover]

ye that's what i meant

[subtle inlet]

yea, at least for the last room ! i ran out of ammo on an attempt, was fine for the two first floors. wish i knew lol

[rocky plover]

the re-wiring made it be able to use the cams myself

[mystic palm]

If u use the switch in electrical it deactives the cams

[long fable]

It’s pretty sad they made the mission so hard it takes running the grenade launcher to complete it

[subtle inlet]

I mean M32 been pretty much meta for any hard S for a while, ANA is very fun and manageable on lethal

[rocky plover]

yes i know, then after a while they were up again

[quaint torrent]

Man what is this new dlc I spawn in on the pier map and within 5 seconds I’m dead

[mystic palm]

How much time until they function again?

[rocky plover]

didn't really keep a time limit so idk

idk if the enemies flipped the switch again or if its on a timer lol

[long fable]

I generally just try to get a b and prefer running more lethal than non lethal for the more realistic experience only play the hard difficulty to satisfy my autism

[waxen echo]

Why does it lag almost everytime I shoot or get shot at

[subtle inlet]

computer specs / drivers* prolly ? haven't heard about fps issues on consoles

[tacit gull]

What directx version are you on

[subtle inlet]

the AIs had a line saying something like "it should cover our track for some time" but I don't think it's on a timer, unlike the jammer where* you clearly informed you have a tiny window

[rocky plover]

ah i see

[cedar mulch]

So, what do you think? Do you reckon VOID will bring back the gear-shifting and jogging mechanics?

[rocky plover]

12

[tacit gull]

gear shifting?

i dont think they're gonna bring back sprinting, no

i dunno what you mean by gear shifting

[cedar mulch]

Mouse wheel speed adjustment

[tacit gull]

Oh well huntr i think said they dont think anyone uses the in between speeds

so probably not

[cedar mulch]

It’s hard to say. After all, they’ve already given the MLO flashbangs. Who knows, they might well issue grenades in the future.

[clear crag]

this dlc has me in a schizo spiral of theories because of the two endings

[long fable]

I need frags so I can clear rooms on the last mission without having to use m32

Of boiling point

[cedar mulch]

Even if jogging isn’t brought back, I reckon VOID will introduce different walking speeds in future. For example, brisk walking and slow walking.

……

[tacit gull]

I'd rather they introduce doors that dont fucking suck first

[cedar mulch]

OMG

[cedar mulch]

VOID didn’t even let MLO show their full potential this time. They’re bound to have grenades, but they didn’t use them.

[tacit gull]

I think they only get flashbangs specifically because there isnt a sprint

The flashbanging behaviour was originally supposed to be on sins

They just never added it in time

[clear crag]

both of the endings you can get are plausible for judge with the reoccuring theme being the green gloved man, which has me thinking so far that the next dlc ( if there is another after this ) will more than likely have the city in a bigger state of dissarray, from what ive collected nothing we did in this DLC promoted civic restoration and honestly would only result in further civil unrest.
i wont go on a rant but these are just my thoughts

[long fable]

Honestly out of everything I wish they would add a more flushed out stealth mechanic so the ai aren’t just automatically tracking you through the walls

[cedar mulch]

The ‘Sprint’ ability should be reinstated. After lasting for five seconds, it will enter a longer cooldown period. This design is intended to limit players’ use of the ability by consuming stamina.

[tacit gull]

nah bro you get the stress system

[clear crag]

if you arent sprinting through the halls and constantly letting shots off you can actually stealth rather well

the biggest issue you'll ever encounter is when the ai has spidersense and 360's your nods clean off

[bitter mason]

shakes fist

[tacit gull]

what you dont know is that the protesters outside the pd are protesting void for not having better ai

[bitter mason]

Thats me, i started that protest

[clear crag]

the maps on this dlc arent really centered towards a stealthy element either way so you could honestly expect a better chance at sneaking on maps like sotf or the elephant

[bitter mason]

The dlcs are the most shooting gallery levels yet

[long fable]

Yeah that’s the part I’m mainly wanting changed if you go into commander mode you can watch them track you through the map

[bitter mason]

I dont understand with bank why they put the weapon caches around but most of the riot suspects spawn strapped to hell anyways

[long fable]

I don’t enjoy creeping around a corner and getting domed right away when they instantly know your there

[clear crag]

i like how in the base game you have the feeling that the city is for sure in a state of chaos, but its mostly under control

in DLC1 its getting worse due to the hurricane but its not past a certain standpoint where it'd be better to use lethal force at every turn

in DLC2 its on the teetering edge where your better off just shooting first and asking later but non-lethal is still possible

and in this DLC3 its to the point where bullets will answer questions better than a beanbag will

my only complaint for the dlcs would probably be the fact we get 3 maps a piece ( which isnt too big of an issue since they're only 10 bucks. )

[vale sparrow]

tips on clearing the last floor except the courtroom since I haven’t activated it yet, or shall I activate it and go upstairs clearing all of it? I have the swat ai too btw

[long fable]

I was told to just use the m32 and there’s a resupply on 3rd floor

[tacit gull]

If you're playing on hard then they'll hold pixel peeks with perfect reaction time

[vale sparrow]

where

[long fable]

I’m unaware of it not home so haven’t gotten to try it out

[long fable]

I wish they made them have the same reaction time as a human to actually give us a chance

[tacit gull]

hard is overtuned to shit

[coral tapir]

Greased Palms on hard 💔

[rocky plover]

ikr last map is the new 3 letter triad type shit lol

[coral tapir]

Literal superhuman sight.

[tacit gull]

actually just unplayable without a flash launcher you can spam everywhere

[hollow veldt]

anyone know what all the keycards on a new america actually do?

[long fable]

Shuts off a security or opens the security doors

Have to find a terminal

[hollow veldt]

i havent even seen security doors tbh, maybe i havent got far enough?

[long fable]

3rd floor they’re metal and can’t breach them unless you do that but haven’t tried c2 or battering ram on them

[hollow veldt]

interesting

[idle thunder]

Why does SWAT AI not react to being shot at?

I tell them to stack up and cover my six, but they get wiped out in seconds

[faint patio]

Since there's a new update for RON, does mods require update?

[hollow veldt]

yeah, thats just basic game stuff lol

[faint patio]

oh ok

[hollow veldt]

quite a few are updated already tho

[faint patio]

nowonder my game crashed

[bitter mason]

They stupid af
They either wait too long to return fire, return fire too slowly or simply turn their backs on a threat a good chunk of the time

[bright relic]

So there 2 different paths now after the DLC how do we choose the paths?

[hollow veldt]

you mean the endings for the last map?

[bright relic]

Is it in game choice base or can we pick to go rouge or stay swat

[bright relic]

Yeaaaa

[hollow veldt]

you either ||s rank the level for one or detonate the explosives yourself at the end||

[sudden trench]

From Old Port with John Wick AI to this update now with military AI
Im acually impressed

[bright relic]

I need to S rank it rn I want to see judges wall

[hollow veldt]

make sure you do it in singleplayer btw, the ending cutscenes unfortunately dont work in multiplayer

[lost vector]

in the random prisoner in the basement just gone now?

[quick tapir]

unfortunately yeah

no more torture lol

[lost vector]

no more war crime time....

should of moved him into the courtyard fr fr

they make him more annoying to get to in 1.0 then just delete him now why void WHY

[quick tapir]

yeah its so sad i went to test the new guns on him and he wasn't there

[gray heath]

Did they use Gen AI for anything in the new maps? I only played through them once so far but I haven't found anything made with AI I think that's cool I would like to know if I missed something or not though

Also I don't want to start arguments about Gen AI all I'm looking for is a simple answer

[hybrid hazel]

im so in love with the 2011 #🎬ron-clips-and-media message

[wind gyro]

a new america has some new ai functions

oh that ai nvm

they only used ai for placeholder images that are there for a long time

[viral sonnet]

How do i toggle the use of magnifiers on my sight?

[wind gyro]

scroll

[hybrid hazel]

Would that change anything?

[hybrid hazel]

its not like they or anyone else for that matter is gonna release a patch note and giving red outlines for every asset that has some kind of Gen AI used on it

[gray heath]

Dude fuck off I said I wanted a simple answer and didn't want to start arguing over how "it matters" or "it doesn't matter" and you just ignored my plea anyway. People like you are the reason why I left this server the first time.

And I don't want to put up with this shit again

[hybrid hazel]

most triggered man alive

username checks out

oh no he answered my question in a different way than i wanted - impossible - people must write how i tell them to

[marble timber]

So I beat All Gods Burn and it was a complete clusterfuck

That main lobby immediately became a giant gunfight and 3 civilians died, one of my men died, and all but 2 of the shooters died

Then we went up to the second floor, I sent my boys in to clear, one got shot in the head and died, another civilian died, all the terrorists died

Then I went down to the basement and went fatal, just started killing enemies

[thin pilot]

m

[marble timber]

I got a E for 5 dead civilians and 2 dead squadmates

[blazing raft]

Gang i did 3 tries today of last mission of boiling point, a new America, I get everyone but no matter what I do buildings blow up what am I doing wrong

[hybrid hazel]

its a dead man detonator, activate the signal jammer, secure the last room and then secure the detonator. If you just leave it on the ground and the jammer signal runs out it triggers because - dead man detonator

[blazing raft]

Like ok on one try I didn't activate signal Jammer and I understand but the other 2 it was active and I shot and killed the dude with bomb trigger while under jammer effect and it still exploded am I supposed to only get him alive? With stuns or sum? Cause he is shooting at me with a magnum revolver and it also deals quite the damage so ofc I will have to return fire

[blazing raft]

Yeah but it blowed up anyways, so did I run out of time or was it bugged?

[hybrid hazel]

you didnt secure the detonator after he dropped it

it needs to be secured before the jammer runs out of time

[blazing raft]

So in case I have to clear top kill everyone except him then activate jammer, slime him and secure detonator?

[wary plover]

Honestly? I wouldn't want to be Judge

[blazing raft]

Yeah but while I fight i killed him and the second he died it triggered

[wary plover]

He is fucked by life at every turn

[blazing raft]

While there was the jammer

[hybrid hazel]

nah just activate the jammer, secure him any way you want and then secure the detonator thats on the ground

he drops it either way - if he dies or if he surrenders

and if there is no jammer then it explodes

[blazing raft]

I played every Ron mission as my swat character in multiplayer private lobby, peak experience

Every difficulty almost

Got somewhat higher grades everytime unless I lock in for S rank

[wary plover]

I meant lore wise

[blazing raft]

Yeah no I understand I just threw in a fun fact

[wary plover]

Judge been fucked by USIA for the past 20 years

[blazing raft]

Like immagine u expect a whole swat team and they send only one dude...

Doom Slayer vibe

[granite wave]

Exactly

[marble timber]

For "A New America" would you guys recommend long or short range munitions

[blazing raft]

Last mission got me moving like John Wick

[wary plover]

So how do I do programmed psychosis?

[blazing raft]

I started predicting breaches and ambushing em

[blazing raft]

Idk about trophies only did 1 new one

[wary plover]

OK so only requirement is that you finish it alone

On hard difficulty, so no bots

[marble timber]

?

[blazing raft]

Doesn't seem too difficult except for high difficulty

Idk if they plant traps on hard or no

[white finch]

this game pisses me off

[blazing raft]

I played it solo Normal and Casual

[past lily]

anything that brings the suspects down

[granite wave]

Honestly carrier of the vine is one of the most overrated missions in the game. It was hard at first but as you do it more it is just the same cycle of events. Almost every time someone is in the same place, what are your thoughts @blazing raft

[wary plover]

ANA traps are different

Instead of blowing up they alert the enemy of you coming

[past lily]

in doorways it's gas

[marble timber]

This is rather unhelpful

[marble timber]

Is it a close quarters mission?

[wary plover]

Should I just bring a lot of ammo?

[past lily]

yes since it's indoors

[blazing raft]

Bro its one of the easiest once u understand map, The suspects on that map have the lowest Morale in the game basically, they will almost comply instantly whatever u do and they don't stand a chance against all items, plus 0 armor so they die instantly and only have medium weapons so neither bad or good

I got S rank alone on hard on that map, one of my first solo S ranks

One time 3 of em simultaneously surrendered just with compliance yells

[whole crag]

can you use the elevator at a new america mission?

[granite wave]

Exactly but every time I load into a public match it’s always them playing career of the vine

[blazing raft]

No they're jammed, "Ofc the elevator is broken, the elevator is always broken"

[whole crag]

Alr

[crude rune]

i found the dad from the trailer

[wary plover]

Why no one has done a guide on Programmed Psychosis?

[marble timber]

Yes

[wary plover]

Armor? Nvg?

[floral peak]

i think its too early for now, there very few ppl who actually did it

and some of them used mods tho

[heavy prairie]

Bro I almost beat a new America and I try to cut the wires on the bomb thing or whatever on the flower guy in the court room and he moves and I accidentally clicked on the detonater😭

[wary plover]

I saw a tip to bring nods

[floral peak]

NVGs help here, you can see the motion detectors

[marble timber]

For what? In general a lot of ammo of either type is advised, it can't hurt to have NVG, gas and a gas mask is always good

[floral peak]

also rewire the CCTV at start, youll be able to see cameras on T

[wary plover]

What weapon has 30 rounds and low recoil?

[floral peak]

30 rounds is usually all of ARs

and some SMGs

[marble timber]

Low recoil? SMGs. 30 rounds? ARs.

[floral peak]

i honestly prefer new 6.5 rifle

[wary plover]

It doesn't have 30 rounds

[hollow veldt]

anyone got any tips for taking on the third floor of a new america having trouble with that floor quite a bit

[bleak pelican]

Man I feel like the less lethal guns shouldn’t be a primary I feel like they should be a tactical

[floral peak]

with precise shots i can take out 6-8 suspects in one mag

[ebon iron]

G36

[bleak pelican]

I want a less lethal a primary and a secondary,to me having them as a tactical would be a lot better

[floral peak]

Shield is not good option for this mission, they quickly aim at arms/legs

[wary plover]

How many suspects spawn on ANA on Hard?

[floral peak]

23-25

[wary plover]

Can you kill the HVT with jammer on?

[floral peak]

main shitshow is 21th floor

[marble timber]

I've lately become a very big fan of the gas grenades in this game

[hollow veldt]

thats what im struggling with atm, havent cleared it successfully yet any tips?

[floral peak]

he will detonate as soon as you start clearing courtroom, but there small time frame

[floral peak]

im struggling there too, but i recommend going from east side staircase

[wary plover]

So I need a flashbang launcher or a 9 banger

[floral peak]

and avoid room that leads to 22th floor

[wary plover]

Wait, if he detonates, won't he kill his own men?

[hollow veldt]

big open room with the big staircase in the center? yeah that rooms so fucked

[floral peak]

yeah, i would call it run killer

[wary plover]

There are 2 bombs, 1 on him and 1 on the other building

[floral peak]

Main thing is you need to go very slowly

You rush - instakilled

[marble timber]

I don't think he cares about that

[hollow veldt]

how much more of the mission is there after floor 21? i havent even gotten past that floor yet

[white finch]

these suspects' behavior is fucking ridiculous like i would understand this behavior and weapons access from suspects with organized crime like sins of the father not with these generic thugs

[floral peak]

one guy told me there "ammo refill" before final courtroom on top floor

[floral peak]

one more floor with VIP suspect

[wary plover]

Jammer? Yeah it has ammo

[floral peak]

oh really?

[crude rune]

i’ve killed everyone at the carnival

[white finch]

these fuckers have AKMs, automated shotguns, machine pistols

[floral peak]

suspects on ANA are really strong, almost everyone with FALs

except few with M16s

[crude rune]

if the dad ain’t leaving. no one is

[wary plover]

Hmm, what if you bring your own FAL?

[floral peak]

we dont have FAL

[wary plover]

FAL 1 taps

[wary plover]

We do, its a short variant

[thin pilot]

anyone trying to game share me ready or not ?

[crude rune]

what is the strongest load-out lethal

[floral peak]

oh yeah, OSW-58

[reef spade]

When are the developers planning to fix the bug where the suspect doesn't react to anything? Even a taser doesn't help anymore. Because of this, I can't get through email because either one of the suspects or the FISA agent doesn't react to anything.

[mortal geode]

does anyone know how does the jammer objective get failed?

[reef spade]

It was such an easy S rank on hard difficulty until this bug happened.

[reef spade]

What exactly do you mean?

[mortal geode]

i was playing with randoms and when someone wanted to do something with jammer it failed and jammer screen was glitchy

[thin pilot]

anyone tryna gameshare?

[mortal geode]

does shooting it make it fail or what?

[reef spade]

I don't think I quite understood, do you mean that the task of detaining a specific target during a mission failed?

[wind gyro]

its disabled for ron

[thin pilot]

fr?

noooooo

[wind gyro]

yes, on steam and consoles

[mortal geode]

no, the task of activating (or deactivating idk) jammer was failed

[reef spade]

What's the task? What's this map?

[mortal geode]

map "A new america"

for task name i would need to get to the jammer room

[reef spade]

Oh, sorry, I haven't bought the new DLC yet because I don't have the money. I would have helped you if I knew what exactly you were talking about. Wait, is this the part where the neighboring skyscraper explodes? Are you trying to figure out how to prevent that? Or am I wrong?

[mortal geode]

yes

[reef spade]

Honestly, I don't remember exactly, but after activating some thing on the map, you have a 2-minute timer to find a suspect in a room whose bomb you need to defuse, like the belt suspects have on the Relapse map, for example, it can be defusal

[mortal geode]

yea i know but we just get to the jammers room and it was like that

no one activated jammer

[wary plover]

Spoiler: ||Green gloves man is canon but not how you think. He appears in Judge's Home scene by watching him from the street||

||But who is he? Above MLO and USIA||

[ashen panther]

Hey I’m trying to get the targeted manipulation achievement by blowing up the detonator myself but I’ve done it twice and it didn’t give me it? I arrest everyone and set it off and didn’t get anything

[wind gyro]

@sly cosmos the community manager and void employees talk in general and other channels very often. especially answering #1050535723087958156 if they need more information

[sly cosmos]

Thanks @wind gyro i’m just getting back into it so I apologize. I’m sure there’s a lot I missed.

[wind gyro]

[bitter mason]

done a new america on S rank but theres like one civvie left and there is literally nowhere they can be
search and secure not working

[rocky plover]

plenty of hiding spots but if you've got bring order to chaos done, they should come out of hiding and seek you

[wary plover]

If all bad guys are cuffed they should come to you

[bitter mason]

they aint

everything but rescue all civs is done, I've searched every room, search and secure managed to get one civ I was missing but it wanst the last

[timber valley]

is there any way to check mid game if there are any dead suspects?

[rocky plover]

you sure you didn;t miss a locked door somewhere? if its locked i dont think they can run towards you

[timber valley]

im pretty sure someone died but i dont want to restart

[bitter mason]

you'd have to retrace your steps and find the body

[rich cobalt]

judge lives like a bum.

i love him so much.

[timber valley]

thing is i saw the popup indicating the suspect reported and it only gave me 5 points, meaning he was dead

im now where it happened and i dont see anything

[bitter mason]

bruh I found him in the bathroom I checked like 5 times just stood there. Not surrendered, door open and he just didnt come seek me out

civs never like doing that but the last suspect always love to rush you down because void has their priorties in a twist

[rocky plover]

lol

[rich cobalt]

begging for an MLO triggerman bodypillow soon.

[rocky plover]

well congrats on S, im stuck on A+ so far on that one xD

[rich cobalt]

my judge bodypillow needs his degrader.

[ruby cove]

just finished the game and unlocked something called duality does anyone know what it is?

[rocky plover]

tattoo

should also get the flair nite watch with it

both for doing S last map

then there is devil tattoo and broken handcuffs for alternate ending to last mission

[night shore]

i wish there was like. any helmet that looked decent with the artemis vest

[floral peak]

tattoo

VOID better prepared something for Programmed Psychosis achievement

would be funny if there no reward

[rocky plover]

prob just the achievement only lol

[hardy cloak]

a new america is gonna make me lobotmize myself

[signal oyster]

I'm awake now

[signal oyster]

Accurate

[floral peak]

Y’all should say sorry to Greased Palms right now, since A new America came out

[rocky plover]

and 3 letter triad xd

[hardy cloak]

greased palms was the new america at one point

[night shore]

3 letter triad easy

[hardy cloak]

is this ragebait

[pulsar sapphire]

I’m stuck on greeased 🫩

[night shore]

not even ragebait

[signal oyster]

Greased Palm's was so annoying until I played A New America

[night shore]

are we talking S rank or just completing it

[signal oyster]

S rank

[rocky plover]

S on hard

[floral peak]

Don’t even try Programmed Psychosis achievement

[night shore]

ok thats different

[hardy cloak]

im on my like 50th attempt with a new america

[night shore]

i lowkey just shoot everything that moves on that map

[hardy cloak]

i dont wanan do casual but i might have to at this point

[signal oyster]

I tried 20 before raging and going to sleep

[floral peak]

I swear if they instakilled much less I would probably be done with it

[rocky plover]

ye that works since there is only 1 civvie and hes cuffed already XD

[bitter mason]

I play with gunfighter so I get way more slots than vanilla. that being said flash launcher is op as hell

[night shore]

i wish they added a riot helmet or something with this update

[floral peak]

Even without mods launcher is a beast

[bitter mason]

yea

[night shore]

the vest is neat its just theres no helmet option that looks decent with it

[rocky plover]

ye im playing with launcher on vanilla rn its op

[hardy cloak]

when the explosives mod gets updated im gonna blow everything up on new america

[floral peak]

We all

[bitter mason]

A new america also has an ammo box on the top floor that refils ammo and grenades so theres no reason not to take it

[hardy cloak]

wait fr?

[bitter mason]

yep near the stairs

[floral peak]

I maybe should do all hard S before attempting Programmed Psychosis

[rocky plover]

is it always same spawn? didnt encounter it yet

[hardy cloak]

btw is the activate detonater thing real

[floral peak]

Yes

[bitter mason]

facing towards the court room from the top of the stairs its on the right behind you

[signal oyster]

Impeccable strat.
I use this on the "missions that want to make me rip my fucking eyeballs out"

[rocky plover]

thats what im trying, only last map left

[rocky plover]

oh ok thanks

[floral peak]

I will definitely run Nutritionist + Armorer

[hardy cloak]

i was gonna s rank everything on hard but elephant is kinda anoyying because of the bomb timer

[floral peak]

The bombs don’t make much problem

[rocky plover]

bomb timer isnt rly the issue

[hardy cloak]

it like 4 minutes vro

[floral peak]

The issue is to find the suspects

[rocky plover]

more the active shooter timer than bomb timer

[mortal geode]

dont you have like 30 minutes or something like that?

[floral peak]

It’s like 10 minutes

[hardy cloak]

not on hard???

[signal oyster]

I thought 20

[floral peak]

On relapse, not elephant

[rocky plover]

30 (20 on hard) is for hospital

[charred olive]

Talking out your butt

[mortal geode]

oh ok thx for informing

[floral peak]

Still too much for hospital, even on hard

[rocky plover]

true

[wind gyro]

im speaking the truth

[charred olive]

Game shared it to my friend works perfectly fine

[floral peak]

Imma eat and then run the Hard S

[charred olive]

And he got all dlcs

[floral peak]

Should be fast

[wind gyro]

well maybe they added it on console, steam is still disabled

[torpid oak]

What actually does happen if the bombs go off? Do you just immediately lose the mission? Is there like an explosion?

[crisp aurora]

is the s rank ending for new america single player or coop

[rocky plover]

ye explosion and lose

[rocky plover]

quick play or commander mode for the cutscenes

[night shore]

the 2011 is lowkey my new favorite pistol

[hardy cloak]

the animations are so tuff

[night shore]

it sounds and looks dope

[hardy cloak]

i die sometimes because of the long animations though

[night shore]

trying to decide what rifle to use now though

the m4 with the carry handle is tuff but my god do the iron sights suck ass

[hardy cloak]

use the 300 blackout pdw trust

[night shore]

the rtwc sounds so powerful

[sacred fossil]

Why doesn't FSR work in the game?

[hardy cloak]

how do you do all gods burn without the ai killing civs

[mortal geode]

normally

[night shore]

the new gun animations are so punchy dude

i love them

[somber wolf]

Had anyone found mr nibbles yet?

[latent crescent]

spam grenade launcher

[bright galleon]

They should add a black 509 ngl

[hardy cloak]

i c2 the door and have the ai throw in 9 bangs and they still kill civvies

[split smelt]

Is the dlc free?

[mortal geode]

is grass blue?

[split smelt]

Or should I buy Alpha pack

[hardy cloak]

ragebait

[split smelt]

Making fun of those who are unaware brings only karma

[hardy cloak]

why the hell would the dlc be free

[split smelt]

They made the other dlc free

[hardy cloak]

this is genuine ragebait

[rocky plover]

the other "dlc" was more of a console update

[split smelt]

That makes sense, so is it worth it to just buy the alpha pack or just boiling point itself

[hardy cloak]

how is console gameplay btw

[coral tapir]

What is this "other DLC" called?

[split smelt]

The Los Sens story

[coral tapir]

Oh.

[rocky plover]

the LSS update

[coral tapir]

I see.

[rocky plover]

what does alpha pack give you? home invasion, dark waters and boiling point?

[split smelt]

Oh I didn’t know that one

[rocky plover]

idk im asking, im on pc and bought them individually

[split smelt]

Let me check

[rocky plover]

idk how the packs are on console

[night shore]

how did i just figure out how to do a quick reload

[split smelt]

Yeah I get everything

[night shore]

been playing this game for damn near 6 months and just found ts

[split smelt]

It’s common to forget in battle

[rocky plover]

then if you can afford it and dont own any of the dlc's i suggest to get that

[split smelt]

I’ll buy it and run it up with my buddies once they’ve installed. Thank you for the help

[rocky plover]

they all have 3 maps per dlc, except LSS which is more of an update rather than a dlc

[signal oyster]

Just went on ready or not and saw the worst "Officer Williams has been killed. You will need to replace him."
NOOOOO

[hollow veldt]

be aware that theres singleplayer only story cutscenes for the final mission in boiling point

[wind storm]

God, what a good game this is, I have already bought all the DLC and if this is my way of helping so that this game continues to maintain updates I will always do it!!

[iron willow]

Sometimes I wonder why the non lethal grenades in this game aren't as strong as SWAT4's. Like I'd happily have half or even a third of the available grenades if it meant having the for example SWAT4 flashes which literally throw around boxes in a massive room with how powerful they are.

[signal oyster]

What mp5 do you guys recommend? I use the SD6

[twin dock]

Am I blind or has the IR laser disappeared

[split smelt]

So I cant see the cutscene unless I’m in single player?

[hollow veldt]

yes

[signal oyster]

It's on rifles and pistols

[rocky plover]

neither, mpx better :P, but if i had to pick mp5, probably A3 or SD6

[signal oyster]

Alr thx

[twilit bloom]

mp5a2 no attachements, no sight

[rocky plover]

A3 most likely cos of laser + flashlight

sd6 only has flashlight

[signal oyster]

Alr

[twin dock]

Cant find it on any? Only options are the pointer, PEQ-15 and new mault laser

[rocky plover]

plus the integrally suppressed weapons still count as "loud" in terms of stress mechanics -__- so ye MP5A3

[signal oyster]

Peq-15 has nvg and normal laser on it

[twin dock]

Ah okay, cheers

[rocky plover]

they all have Vis laser and IR laser on those 3 mentioned btw

[signal oyster]

Any good sidearms? The one I've been using is just the 509

[rocky plover]

the only difference is 2 are red laser and mault is green

[hardy cloak]

how is there like no recoil on the new dmr

[fickle minnow]

Because it’s the best gun in the game

[rocky plover]

the 2 new pistols are the best 9mm now
mkv and 5-7 also good for higher armors

[iron willow]

I like the P226 because I like it. But realistically you don't need a sidearm

[signal oyster]

I don't have the DLCs yet
I have base game and dark waters

[iron willow]

Especially if you are playing non lethal. And on lethal just semi auto you never run out of ammo

[rocky plover]

its good, but wouldnt say best gun, because its still not close to 7.62x51 dmg, its closer to .300blackout

[signal oyster]

I always do
I run into rooms and get shot 20 times trying to reload my primary

[rocky plover]

arent guns free for everyone

dlc ownership is for cosmetics and maps

[iron willow]

Why are you reloading your primary when entering a room, and how are you running out of ammo

[signal oyster]

Full auto

[iron willow]

Why are you running full auto

[coral tapir]

The name "A New America" kinda implies this is going to be the final DLC / update of some sort.

[hardy cloak]

if i clear everything beside the finial room on boiling point will the bomber dude explode himself or does he just stay there

[iron willow]

I can clear Relapse with like, 2-3 mags.

[fickle minnow]

I find it to only needs maybe one extra round in the chest than like the FAL would need. Usually 1-2 rounds center mass puts a target down which is say is basically the same as 7.62x51

[iron willow]

just because of semi auto

[fickle minnow]

7.62x51 is a more consistent 1 shot kill I’ll admit that though

[signal oyster]

Because I don't trust suspects to drop their guns

[rocky plover]

true but by that reasoning, 5.56 or .300 would be the same in terms of amount of shots

[iron willow]

You do realise they die with 2-3 shots, right.

[manic swallow]

the city hall guys must have super sense bro

[signal oyster]

Not the ones in all gods burn

[rocky plover]

the downside with the new battle rifle is the ammo sucks againts limbs

both AP and JHP

[iron willow]

Then aim for the head

[rocky plover]

but it has very low recoil compared to the other battle rifles, so it has a strong point as well

[iron willow]

Considering you don't care about rank (I assume)

[hollow veldt]

should i run beanbag or grenade launchers on swat ai? whats more effective

[rocky plover]

flash launchers deffo

[iron willow]

I give them pepperballs

[signal oyster]

Not at all
After I s rank I shoot the place up

[iron willow]

Then why the fuck are you full autoing when you can one tap them

[hollow veldt]

beanbags are way better than pepperball, infinitely more consistent

[iron willow]

Swat AI can shoot them in the head, killing them

[signal oyster]

Why not?

[hollow veldt]

ah, thats not good lol

[iron willow]

Then I don't know why you are complaining about running out of ammo

[wary plover]

so Hard enemies on ANA are fucking cracked

[split smelt]

A New America has actually made me lose my sanity

[wary plover]

one killed me from full health and heavy armor in 3 bullets

[signal oyster]

I'm not? I'm saying I want a good sidearms for when I do run out of ammo

[rocky plover]

they dont since the previous update (not this one the one before it)

[iron willow]

Really?

[rocky plover]

ye was fixed/changed

[iron willow]

Oh that's actually really good

I'll give them beanbags then

[split smelt]

Have you finished the dlc and saw the cutscene?

[coral tapir]

Standard ANA is legit Hard diff ATP.

[stoic thistle]

Dawg, the guys in the court room always kill one of my guys, every single time.

[coral tapir]

Also, is the enemy that is capable of breaching and throwing flash the newly added "CQB" type?

[split smelt]

Yeah they only do CQB

[rocky plover]

only saw prison cutscene so far, didnt see the apartment cutscene yet

[split smelt]

Do you think that was Gerard? the prisoner I mean

[rocky plover]

stuck on A+ for now, other 2 done on hard S

[rain gale]

anyone got s tier on the full dlc yet? anything worthwile getting?

[floral peak]

Honestly, when they breach just wait until they open the door and just blast them, they really vulnerable while setting up

[rocky plover]

the one you're controlling when moving in the cell?

[split smelt]

Ready or not you are a beautiful team for adding fingerless gloves

[split smelt]

Yea that guy

[coral tapir]

Yeah them doing commands we can do makes them vulnerable more than frightening, at least for now in my current experience.

[floral peak]

Absolutely not, we playing as judge in prison

[coral tapir]

I'm legit playing and talking to my friend who is obsessed with the thing rn lmao.

[split smelt]

What???

[rocky plover]

i think its judge

[wary plover]

I got my ass handed to me on ANA

[floral peak]

We get in prison after we blow up whole building

[split smelt]

That’s not the canonical ending right?

[floral peak]

There no canonical ending because we don’t know which one is canon

[rocky plover]

depends how you look at it i guess XD

[split smelt]

Do you get that scene from doing the bad ending?

[azure salmon]

is it just me or does it tak ea ridiculous amount of rounds to kill the guys in a new america even with 7.62 ap

[floral peak]

Yes

[split smelt]

Well looks like my canonical judge got fucking arrested 😭😭

[floral peak]

Yes red

[split smelt]

I use the G36C it’s perfect for CQB

[floral peak]

I use new RTWC

[split smelt]

You’re a mad man

[fickle minnow]

Try FMJ the AP aspect of 7.62 doesn’t really matter as is has good penetration either way to my knowledge, the FMJ will cause more damage to the suspects

[floral peak]

It’s beautiful

[azure salmon]

ok I'll try , thanks

I mean regardless of if I'm using 5.56 or 7.62 they still take a million rounds and they dome me while moving 50 mph sideways

[signal oyster]

Mp9 is so useful

[azure salmon]

it's hella annoying, even worse trying to s rank it

I tried the p90 the other day because I figured 5.7 had good ap capabilities too but it took like 15 rounds to get one dude down

[signal oyster]

P90 is good

[turbid monolith]

It’s nasty the type of resistance they have to 5.56

[signal oyster]

If you can use it right

[young belfry]

Low-key just found out Dave Fennoy plays a couple characters in the game and as a Telltale's the walking dead fan I could recognize his voice anywhere

[karmic shale]

that's the thing I don't understand tho
like the ammo doesn't work how the ammo realistically should

it's soo weirdd 😭

[azure salmon]

a new america is just hella frustrating bruh I haven't been able to complete it past the very first time

[upper halo]

Judge is part of MLO in the bad ending

[woven acorn]

The p90 in Ron is so unrealistic

[turbid monolith]

MP7 is god

[karmic shale]

is ur pfp an orange

[rocky plover]

ye i prefer mp7 over p90 tbh

[woven acorn]

P90 irl has better penetration btw

[upper halo]

so does that mean Judge will be a terrorist in the next DLC

[signal oyster]

Makes sense

[karmic shale]

crazy work

[young belfry]

The BR that fires 6.5 creedmoor is so penetrative that I can easily take down a heavy armored target

[sonic harbor]

FUCK YEAHH I BEATED NEW AMERICA

[hollow veldt]

is it just me or is swat ai stupider now?

[signal oyster]

WHAT IS THIS CORRELATING TO

[karmic shale]

is that name even allowed qwq

[upper halo]

would be fun to play from the terrorist POV

[azure salmon]

I'll try that later. I remember trying it and it sucked, but it might have to do with the fact that they're running aroundat 50mph and me just missing

[young belfry]

Perchance

[signal oyster]

Play cs

[karmic shale]

uhmm

[upper halo]

that’s PVP though

[karmic shale]

cooool qwq

[mortal geode]

play with bots

[young belfry]

I'm playing on console so idk if the balancing is the same between the two

[signal oyster]

Then do it irl if you want the full experience

[woven acorn]

Any one else notice that AI just tank bullets like I shot someone with no armor with the AK ap rounds and flinched twice

[karmic shale]

smol orange

[young belfry]

The very same one that doomed an entire faction

[karmic shale]

yaaasss queen

[turbid monolith]

Sounds spoiled, you should throw it away

[young belfry]

OMFG ikr, like it's either they fold when a round whizzes past them or they can tank a direct impact from a 12 gauge

[karmic shale]

it's crippled :(

[young belfry]

And also has a very mid series of books surrounding it

[karmic shale]

didn't the books come first

or is there a whole other set i don't know about

[young belfry]

No I'm talking about the Clementine books specifically

[hollow veldt]

whomst knows

[karmic shale]

i didn't know those existed lmao

[young belfry]

They're ok at best. I would recommend pirating them if you're gonna read em

[signal oyster]

F90 such a W gun

[lean heart]

I’ve been stuck on relapse for the past few months got so close but died, waited for a soft finish with my ai team and they got stuck on a door, would’ve figured they’d fix the ai path finding before adding new content

[karmic shale]

i only read books about cats yaya

[woven acorn]

I hope they buff P90 And fix the AI tanking shots I did a Bug report but they just removed it

[young belfry]

That's fair.

[iron willow]

@karmic shalehey dude sick pfp

[young belfry]

With relapse you should take your time, try to prioritize stealth cause it's low-key a hard mission

Stealth, a thing I suck at, was the only way I could finish it

[lean heart]

Ngl I don’t really understand how stealth works in this game

[young belfry]

Neither do I. It seems really luck based

[iron willow]

it does not it seems

[fathom niche]

Yeah they also don’t kill civilians as usual

[hollow veldt]

good rule of thumb is to peek doors and walk through them rather than full open, it makes less sound

[upper halo]

stealth doesn’t exist in this game

[fathom niche]

I did relapse stealth

[young belfry]

I usually go loud, so I tend to blow doors off their hinges

[signal oyster]

I killed 3 civis and died to a door trap

[karmic shale]

thankk youu my friend picked it out for meee

[young belfry]

Literally me cause I accidentally went gung ho into a mission not realizing I was accidentally on the highest difficulty

[lean heart]

I’ve found that when my ai die it’s because they decide to pull out their shield whilst getting shot instead of just using primary

[iron willow]

Do you play on hard or? Becuase in my near 100 hours I've NEVER killed a civvie accidentally

[fathom niche]

I can do all the maps stealth besides the boiling point ones but it just requires not an AI team

[signal oyster]

I play hard

[karmic shale]

if you play with that integrally suppressed MP5 it's pretty quiet

[iron willow]

Yeah that explains a lot of your problems tbh

[fathom niche]

The ai team sucks with stealth

[signal oyster]

But their deaths weren't an accident

[lean heart]

Still can’t believe the ai can’t soft complete this mission by themselves

[turbid monolith]

337 civilian casualties

[young belfry]

I wish you could do missions solo, cause that would be so fun.

[karmic shale]

"accidentally" 💔

[fathom niche]

You can in multiplayer mode

[upper halo]

if you get into a firefight it alerts the other enemies though

[young belfry]

Oh shit I gotta do that.

[upper halo]

which sucks

[fathom niche]

Just go into a lobby by yourself

[iron willow]

I mean yeah, I go for highest rank even when lethal so I don't really kill civvies no matter how annoying

[signal oyster]

My career stats show I have 312 civilian casualties

[lean heart]

New battle rifle is good tho

[karmic shale]

right but you cant expect to stay quiet if one person sees you and it alerts everyone lol

[young belfry]

I have 15 as of last time I checked

[willow grove]

Anyone know how to do this damn mission (A New America)

[lean heart]

Don’t suppose they fixed gas since the new dlc is gas themed?

[iron willow]

My only civvie casualties are Elephant and Mirage at Sea

[fathom niche]

I do

[signal oyster]

Why don't you kill them?
They get in the way too easy

[upper halo]

that should be fixed, there should be a time limit from when you get spotted to alerting all enemies in the area

[willow grove]

what do you play on?

[mortal geode]

find jammer and dont kill VIP

[karmic shale]

arrest/kill all the suspects n do the other objectives yaya

[iron willow]

Probably because we aren't edgelords and we care about ranks

[fathom niche]

PC

[karmic shale]

there is, it's from when you're seen to when they start shooting

[fathom niche]

Oh you mean difficulty or what

[young belfry]

My teammates mental state. I don't wanna lose the people I spent forever working with

[strange mirage]

in the description of the boiling point dlc on steam it says this: Cosmetics available upon fully completing Boiling Point missions: - 2 more Tattoos - 2 more Cosmetic Items, does anyone know what these are and how to get them

[hard jackal]

Hey out of curiosity when y'all join a lobby is it as foggy as silent hill

[young belfry]

Yeah, new DLC

[night shore]

i got like 600+

[mortal geode]

sometimes

[willow grove]

Im on xbx, you down to help someone out?

[sharp idol]

Is it just me, or is the mirror gun displaying a lower FPS than before the new update

[signal oyster]

I do too yet after s ranking every mission I don't care about it anymore

[hard jackal]

Ok it's a lot more clear on my screen but I'm host

[prisma tusk]

Yeah that's a bug lol

[hard jackal]

Thanks guys

[turbid monolith]

Yall gotta stop hotboxing the void studio

[iron willow]

At that point why even play the game after S ranking lol, if you are just gonna kill everything, play Rainbow Six or Insurgency

[fathom niche]

#🎨ron-screenshots-and-art My career stats

[turbid monolith]

Rainbow Six after 2020 is mad mid

[iron willow]

You still have Vegas and Vegas 2

[fathom niche]

I use steam to play ready or not

[signal oyster]

Rainbow six siege is bad, in many ways. And insurgency is unrealistic

[willow grove]

ah hell nvm

[iron willow]

I wasn't refering to Siege, and Insurgency is unrealistic, really. And RoN is?

[signal oyster]

Every game is. So what's your point?

[turbid monolith]

Talking about siege, it used to be so good

[iron willow]

I gotta play Vegas 2

[fathom niche]

I have 30 civi casualties

But 519 suspects casualties

[iron willow]

Then why are you saying "unrealistic" as if it's a point?

[signal oyster]

Because you keep telling me what to do when I have my rights to play whatever I want

[willow grove]

Got any suggestions of what gear I should use?

[fathom niche]

For what? A new America?

[shadow flicker]

Isnt there a scope where you csn zoom in and put like another bigger scope in Front for big distance?

[willow grove]

ye

[azure salmon]

running the shield and it seems the .50 1911 is really effecitve against them lol

[fathom niche]

Shotgun and a lot of 9 bangs

[willow grove]

So no arrest for MLO dudes?

[fathom niche]

Also a shield

[iron willow]

What is the difference between 9 bangs and flashbangs?

[willow grove]

bangs 9X

[fathom niche]

No cuz they’ll always shoot at you unless you get to the very top

[iron willow]

is that better?

[willow grove]

Ah alr

[willow grove]

I can’t really tell a difference to be honest

[fathom niche]

Either the flower dude and one other guy in the room with the detonator

[willow grove]

what shotgun????

[azure salmon]

are shotguns any good? I feel like the last time I tried them they did absolutely nohting

[fathom niche]

9 bangs are louder than flashes and also they bang 9 times. Causes more chaos too

[fathom niche]

For a new America yes

[fathom niche]

Any

[azure salmon]

buckshot or slug

[fathom niche]

Except the bb shotgun

[coral tapir]

Honestly Slug Shotgun is very effective, speaking from playing Iron Man mode and hard diff experience. (separate sessions for these of course, the latter is played with friend but still potent)

[iron willow]

Don't they have armour plates in a ANA?

[fathom niche]

They do

[iron willow]

So slugs, right?

[willow grove]

was literally about to ask that

[fathom niche]

That’s why you go for shot gun headshots

[azure salmon]

it's hard to headshot them because they're always moving around at the speed of light

[fathom niche]

Shotguns in A New America are better than AR

[coral tapir]

@azure salmon Anyways mb I didn't check enough context. 🙏

[fathom niche]

I mean they are terrorists

[azure salmon]

you're good lol

[iron willow]

a.k.a speedsofters

[willow grove]

What abt armor?

[fathom niche]

Steel and heavy

[azure salmon]

isn't steel awful if you're playing w teammates

[tawdry ocean]

yea

[willow grove]

Pistol?

[coral tapir]

Speaking of armor types, is Kevlar any good or is it absolutely useless VS the rest?

[fathom niche]

If you are playing online

[azure salmon]

I just got instantly one tapped

[tawdry ocean]

steel as a rule of thumb ain’t the greatest to use due to metal on metal can cause a ricochet ceramic is the best

[fathom niche]

In quick play or commander it doesn’t effect movement speed for some reason or it has very little effect

[azure salmon]

I hate this mission bruh

[tawdry ocean]

what mission you playing?

[willow grove]

Sameee

[azure salmon]

ANA

it has the most annoying ai ever, even on standard

[fathom niche]

Either of the new ones

[tawdry ocean]

just completed that last night after rage quitting a few times

[willow grove]

AP amo?

[fathom niche]

Bro it’s almost impossible with AI

[azure salmon]

I mean the enemy ai, even with teammates it's still hard as hell

[fathom niche]

Always AP ammo

[azure salmon]

it feels like they took the swat ai and then cranked up the skill by ten fold

[willow grove]

1 or 2 mags

[fathom niche]

2

[azure salmon]

so now they sprint around while shooting you accurately (and you can barely shoot back because of the suppression effect)

[hardy cloak]

i need help rq

[tawdry ocean]

i’m doing an hardcore iron man mode tryna S tier everything lemme tell you i ain’t looking forward to that one

[frigid mulch]

i telled my AI teammate to close a door
then he closes it and he opens it again
i got killed

[hardy cloak]

on new america i cleared everything beside the finial room and i cant find the jammer thing anywhere

[willow grove]

Should I do this loadout w the AI or just their standard kit

[azure salmon]

it's on the second floor, there's only 3 locations it can be

[fathom niche]

I did completely A new America but I got the rating I got was a B, but it was on standard difficulty

[hardy cloak]

what are the locations

[fathom niche]

Yes

[willow grove]

Top floor left side on a big table

[willow grove]

How much AMO for the shotgun

[floral peak]

am i lucky or they just doesnt shoot civs on No Good Deed

[fathom niche]

As much as you can carry

[fathom niche]

They do

[tawdry ocean]

btw my recommendation would be don’t go to top floor and clear everything else and once all clear activate the 2 minute timer you get from the jammer and clear top floor

[fathom niche]

They just don’t do it as often in NGD

[floral peak]

on all my runs there they didnt shoot a single civ

[fathom niche]

They did kill one when I played a few minutes ago

[willow grove]

well, that’s a little hard cause there’s only 11 slots with heavy armor so and w a ton of 9s

[floral peak]

i even Hard S it first try

[willow grove]

BRUH WHAT

[fathom niche]

NGD?

Or ANA

[floral peak]

no good deed

[fathom niche]

Ah

[azure salmon]

s ranking the bank map was hell but I've not been able to s rank ANA yet

[fathom niche]

Yeah that’s probably the easiest one to S on Hard for the new DLC

[mortal geode]

its random places

[hardy cloak]

still cant find it

[floral peak]

try to get Nutritionist + Armorer in commander mode

[hardy cloak]

what if i just clear the finial room without activiating it

[floral peak]

will make much easier

[azure salmon]

oh Iv'e been doing it with my friends lol

[frigid mulch]

guys, any tips on S ranking valley of the dolls

[floral peak]

He will detonate as soon as you enter

[fathom niche]

Well just take as much as you can carry and give the 9 bangs to the AI

[hardy cloak]

damn

[willow grove]

Matt are 49 bangers good enough because I don’t have any more slots cause only 11

[willow grove]

Ah alr

[fathom niche]

Give the 9 bangs to the ai

[hardy cloak]

you said its on the FINIAL floor on the top left?

[willow grove]

or right

[hardy cloak]

im tryna explode it myself ngl i wanna get this cutscene

[willow grove]

Big round table

Matt gas mask or?

[fathom niche]

When I did complete it on standard and got a B rating, I mostly just shot anyone immediately besides civilians and used 9 bangs a lot. But that’s also probably because I have a 1000 slot mod

[willow grove]

Bruh lucky

[fathom niche]

Ballistic mask

[hardy cloak]

is the table like on the floor or is it past a door

[fathom niche]

There’s no gas in ANA

They do throw flash bangs tho

[hardy cloak]

theres gas in a new america???

[fathom niche]

No

[hardy cloak]

i literally have got gassed two times already

[willow grove]

There is gas in ANA (trip wire)

[hardy cloak]

yea

[fathom niche]

Well that’s the only one

[hardy cloak]

vro i still dont see this table

[fathom niche]

So just take anti flash goggles

[willow grove]

Then you out of luck

[hardy cloak]

fah

wait can it be inside of the judges office

[fathom niche]

Let me show you my loadout for A new America rq

One sec lemme record a mini video

[willow grove]

Alr you do AI also?

[fathom niche]

Yeah I had ai when I completed the mission before

[floral peak]

aaand All Gods Burn first try Hard S too

[fathom niche]

Same loadout just a lot more 9 bangs

[vague surge]

can I play this fucking game without having to wait 30mins for my epic game to connect

[willow grove]

Alr

[stoic thistle]

You know, I think A New America would be better if the suspects were dug in by default and charged down the stairs when the below floor is taken by swat.

[hardy cloak]

i have to clear the finial room with 1 ai, what do i do

[fathom niche]

@willow grove you dont need night vision btw i just have that on my guy cuz i frequently use in on different missions

did you watch the small video of it

[willow grove]

Alr do you know if I could just use the steam ready or not on Xbox through the Microsoft edge?

Cause my buddy played BemNG on Microsoft edge on Xbox

[south zinc]

Guys, I know you can unlock that cuff watch, but what is the other accessory mentioned in the DLC description?

[fathom niche]

does that work?

[willow grove]

that’s the thing I don’t know

[fathom niche]

Lemme check

[willow grove]

And I don’t wanna waste the hundred plus dollars on steam if it doesn’t work

but if it does amazing, I can finally use mods. I would just have to figure out how to use mods which I mean surely it can’t be that difficult.

[glass nest]

How do you disarm the suspect?

[fathom niche]

ok steam does work on microsoft edge

[willow grove]

OK, then I probably could do it then

[fathom niche]

I recommend using nexus mods

[willow grove]

i’m assuming I would have to pay?

[fathom niche]

for nexus?

[willow grove]

Ye

[fathom niche]

the mods are free on nexus

[willow grove]

Oh ok

Is that where I can get the 1000 slots mod?

[fathom niche]

but you just have to use the most recent and recently updated mods for RoN cuz updates like this break the mods

[fathom niche]

thats where i got my slot mod yes

its different on pc idk how it is on Xbox

hold up a second

oh you cant install and use mods through microsoft edge for xbox

idk im just reading off google lol

[willow grove]

fah

well so much for that

[fathom niche]

Ok yeah they dont work on ready or not through cloud gaming

[hardy cloak]

where are the ai at in ana

disarmed the bomb and i still cant find the last few

[willow grove]

This is why I dis void

[fathom niche]

i mean i you can still complete ana without mods, mods just make it a bit easier

[willow grove]

Well, I’m forced to do that anyways cause I’m on Xbox

[fathom niche]

Mostly ANA is just shooting people

Just aim your shots

[willow grove]

yeah, that’s the thing I suck at aiming in this game

[pine pollen]

Maybe this is a dumb question, but how do you un-magnify the new optic?

[floral peak]

Scroll up/down

[willow grove]

@fathom niche What do I do for AI?

[willow grove]

Amo etc?

[fathom niche]

wdym?

Oh just give them like two or three buckshots in their shotguns and the rest of the slots to 9 bangs

no ammo in pistols since they rarely use them

[willow grove]

what abt pistol amo

alr

Shield for all? and me

[glass heart]

doesnt the ai have infinite ammo

[warm forum]

ive been searching the america level for the last 30 minutes for last civs and i still cant find them

[glass heart]

when i give them only one mag they never run out of ammunition

[willow grove]

I wish

[fathom niche]

no

if you mean ai thats not the other officers than yes

[glass heart]

i mean swat teammates

im pretty sure they do have infinite ammo but not infinite throwables

[fathom niche]

yeah no they dont unlimited ammo

[willow grove]

Matt ^^

[fathom niche]

only you cuz if they have shield they will only use their pistols mostly

also when you equip the shield dont shoot the enemies just hide behind it until they have to reload

[willow grove]

Alr then what

[fathom niche]

then shoot them with the shotgun

when they are reloading

[willow grove]

Sh alr

[fathom niche]

actually i could probably help you cuz ron has cross play

[willow grove]

Yeah, I was hoping you would be able to do that

[fathom niche]

the only issue is that ill have to play in safe mode

[willow grove]

meaning?

[fathom niche]

meaning my mods will be turned off

but thats fine i can play without mods

[willow grove]

Alr thats good for me

When?

[fathom niche]

wdym?

[willow grove]

When do you want to

[fathom niche]

i could do it now if you want

[willow grove]

Alr want me to call you or? cuz I cant do no comms

[fathom niche]

yeah we can go in a vc

[willow grove]

alr

[coarse sail]

so I just finished elephant I'm about to do rust belt does anybody have any tips

[young belfry]

I have over 1k suspect casualties

[young belfry]

Shoot to kill

Bro that mission is what I imagine being a Vietnam tunnel rat would be like just with a bigger area to maneuver around

[warm forum]

bro i cant, Ive been searching for this last civ in the america mission for an hour now what do i do?

[fickle minnow]

Find him

[warm forum]

ive searched every room bro

[fickle minnow]

Have you been yelling?

[warm forum]

yes

[fickle minnow]

Hm

Idk man

[night shore]

does the bank mission have gas

i see

[fickle minnow]

I didn’t encounter any gas on the bank mission

But I have only played through it once to be fair

[warm forum]

he was in the wall bro

[ionic gale]

THE MLO ARE ARE USING FLASHBANGS
AHHHHH

[warm forum]

the last civ was in a wall

[ionic gale]

A New America genuinely makes Hide and Seek look like a fucking stroll in the park

[heavy finch]

I swapped off the gas mask on my 3rd run through and I was fine so believe there's no gas

[night shore]

dude wait what

you can change your loadout during premission ????

[sonic harbor]

man hide and seek was easy way worse was 3 letter triad or releapse

[heavy finch]

Yup, part of the update

[ionic gale]

Yeah, it’s something I’ve always kind of wanted in the game

[proven blade]

So is 10mm and 9mm peashooter? I dump 5 bursts into a guy and only then does he die

[dreamy glacier]

im doing an ironman run rn and i have the worst rng as for my officers trait like wtf i dont have a single negotiator or pacificator

[ionic gale]

Are you facing off against enemies with body armor because if that’s the case then yeah of course it’s going to not be great

[heavy finch]

You can also do it if u die, so you can spectate or change ur loadout

[ionic gale]

At the very least, the enemy should be staggered or something from having an entire magazine dumped & bruising their chest

[proven blade]

SS on sins of the father, and even when they don't its a struggle

[floral peak]

A New America makes Greased Palms cry

[dreamy glacier]

btw any tips for hide and seek for S rank ?

[ionic gale]

Greased palms is like chilling on a peaceful island in the Bahamas, sipping a piña colada while watching the sunset compared to A New America

[granite elk]

Honestly so real

[heavy finch]

Especially since in a new America they're somewhat equal gear wise

[frigid mulch]

anyone has any tips for s ranking valley of the dolls?

[night shore]

dude all gods burn is hard

i cant tell whos a suspect and whos not

i just domed a civ for looking at me funny

[oak tangle]

i spent whole day trying to beat a new america on hard. tbh it felt like jumping on a giant pole with my butthole

[vapid stone]

They do but you have to shoot em

[night shore]

i see

[proven blade]

it cant be THAT bad

[vapid stone]

Also, I play in ps5, but in my gun I have 2 types of ammo, how I change beetween them?

[frigid mulch]

anyone

[oak tangle]

it's not bad, it's fucking hard

[proven blade]

it cant be THAT hard

[oak tangle]

but all gods burn on hard is bad on hard coz fucking gen z shooting their makarov like fucking revolver ocelot

[night shore]

i keep accidentally doming civs

on an unrelated note the rtwc is my new favorite gun

[oak tangle]

insane reaction time and accuracy for random protesters

[night shore]

arent they black sentinnel or something

[frigid pewter]

Wow

[oak tangle]

idk, they look and behave like halfbrain students

i'm talking about main lobby stuff

[fickle minnow]

Flash launcher, or gas maybe if it’s fixed now.

[oak tangle]

not the vault guys

[night shore]

i see

[frigid pewter]

Does anyone have any ideas?

[worthy venture]

I’m pretty sure it’s just the normal American flag. It’s common to see black and gray American flags

[thorn kernel]

Use the flash launcher on M23. Let our bot use bean bag. Clear the right side first then go way back to left and outside. Check the tower then go inside

[frigid pewter]

But it’s next to a colored one and has less stripes

[worthy venture]

Can you send a screenshot?

[frigid pewter]

Sure i will in a bit

[thick thorn]

How do i switch on my mission to show my standard grade and not my hard grade? On a mission i got S standard but it only shows B on hard

[sand hull]

i need more people to play this game with seriously, my friends do not want to play as tactically as i do

[gentle hemlock]

DUDE exactly

[night shore]

i fw tactical gameplay but sometimes i also just want to run and gun

[sand hull]

you get what i’m saying? like i want to do ACTUAL CQB

[sand hull]

don’t get me wrong, love to run and gun sometimes, but i do love playing tactically too

[gentle hemlock]

DUDE I FEEL YOU. Most of my friends just do idiot stuff or shoot each other and give me zero comms

[gentle hemlock]

I play run and gun sometimes

[thorn kernel]

Is it normal that suspect can run to us in the kissing distance and blast the shotgun through shield while we become helpless? What to do to survive it

[pine pollen]

Reminds me of suspects with knives

[thorn kernel]

Seems like enemy don't have minimum distance for weapon ready

[pine pollen]

Yep, happened to me. They got automatically banned from my lobby because of too many friendly fire

[gentle hemlock]

You can get banned for friendly fire 😭

[iron willow]

#🎨ron-screenshots-and-art message

For the civilian casualties thing btw

[gentle hemlock]

Oh my goodness lmao

[pine pollen]

Yeah, I had to manually unban them through notepad

[gentle hemlock]

Oh yo that's crazy 😭😭

[night shore]

what is with these fucking suspects in the lobby of the bank

[lyric lion]

Hey I just managed to solve a new America with a B rank in commander but didn’t get the cutscene, does anyone know why?

[night shore]

im getting 360 noscoped by these shitheads

[fringe fjord]

you get a cutscene by either: ||detonating the bombs yourself after bringing order to chaos, or s-ranking it||

[lyric lion]

S RANK???

Bruh I’ll never make it

Thank you tho 🥲

[proven blade]

in campaign career mode after completing bring order to chaos how do I tell trailers to come in and help find all hostages?

[fringe fjord]

you cant

press middle mouse button and use search & secure

[proven blade]

isn't trailers function supposed to be Automatic?

[floral peak]

What if you just complete it not on S rank and don’t detonate bomb, is there something different?

[coral tapir]

Wtf did a 7.62 just incapacitate in a headshot???? Didn't record but are enemies in ANA THAT durable?

[floral peak]

They don’t care

[fringe fjord]

nope

[lyric lion]

It just takes you back to the station after completing

[floral peak]

Oh, I see

[jolly verge]

Trailers do not find anyone, they just carry out dead, incap or cuffed suspects/civilians

[coral tapir]

You don't need S Rank for the ending to proc, right?

[lyric lion]

[floral peak]

S rank/activate detonator

[jolly verge]

They have standart health, you headshot through something

[lyric lion]

I really want the handcuff cosmetic tho so in I go again

[coral tapir]

Like, shooting EXACTLY at their face?

Yesterday happening but with 9mm I was only a little surprised but then a 7.62x51?

[jolly verge]

Does not matter, it's all about damage after pen

Clear headshot with 7.62x51 kills every single suspect in game

[night shore]

dude why are there so many civs on this mission

[fringe fjord]

because its funny

😎

[night shore]

i cant even get past the bank lobby

i guess its different because im playing solo without ai

[coral tapir]

Speaking of that mission, standing on the ramp on the left entrance and then using Slug M1014 clearing out the bad was actually so cool lmao.

[proven blade]

which one

[night shore]

all gods burn

[proven blade]

i tried playing community college and 2 times, separate mission replay, in beginning of game, suspect Ai as soon as he got a tiny Pixel gap visually from 50+ meters saw Me he shot at me with aimbot accuraccy

[twin dock]

Does anyone know the specifics for the im too old for this trophy?

[proven blade]

this is more of like call of duty not swat game

because Suspects open fire at you! instantly no reaction time or anything like that, they shoot at you at any given opportunity

Why does 7 mags on the flashbang launcher only mean 3?

[proven blade]

good question lol

[pine pollen]

Any advice for the new maps? The suspects execute civs randomly, even when unprovoked.

[proven blade]

because like, do they really expect me to only use 13 flashbangs when you usually need 2-3 to neutralize someone?

[proven blade]

Just hurry up honestly, thats best strategy, devs left that to be intentional feature

[night shore]

shoot and kill anything that moves or looks at you funny

[pine pollen]

That sucks, the maps are big, not to mention you move too slow to cover the whole area

[proven blade]

okay so actually the flashbang launcher actually fucking blows so im just gonna use beanbag for me, ai can keep it

[pine pollen]

Aaand a civ just died because of the gas trap. Damn.

[sage edge]

Guys why did ready or not swipe all of my saved data including settings except for mission grades

[copper silo]

uninstalled?

[sage edge]

I didnt uninstall it

it was all there yesterday

[proven blade]

Well they are trying the new thing making maps bigger and bigger it seems like, but problem is player has limited ammo and limited grenades because they don't know how much ammo does player have lmao, game is pain its making it not SWAT experience but its torture if u try to follow rules its trying to be realistic hardcore n stuff but its not really enjoyable at that point

[copper silo]

odd

[proven blade]

Mirage on the Sea Hard S might be worse than childbirth

[pine pollen]

If you're lucky you can get Sah'id right in front of the spawn LOL

[proven blade]

does that prevent execution

[pine pollen]

Yeah, he orders the goons to kill off civs

There's even an achievement for it

[proven blade]

whats the meta spawn

[pine pollen]

I usually choose either the upper deck or boat landing because of the entrance threshold.

I found him mostly in the lowest level hall with multiple cabins across it

[proven blade]

is that the one at boat landing or the one below it

[runic prism]

Guys a question, do the attachements such as the combat grip improve the SWAT AI's performance?

[night shore]

the 2011 is the best pistol in the gam

just cleared out like 90% of the bank using only it

[white eagle]

Do you have to be in Commander mode to get the secret ending in “A New American”?

[rocky plover]

ye or quick play

[white eagle]

Ty

[night shore]

whats the secret ending

[proven blade]

so just not mp

[crude prism]

Nah, only the veteran trait will make them more accurate

[rocky plover]

1 of the hidden achievements basically

[runic prism]

ok thanks man

[pine pollen]

Aft deck, right at the front of the spawn is a double door, he usually spawns there or the upper floor

[proven blade]

k

[night shore]

should i try doing the bank with just the 2011 pistol

ts rifle aint shit

[inner jewel]

There are 2 endings in A New America that could be "secret", one requires the player to fail by || using the jammer and then still interacting with the switch to blow up the bombs|| and the other requires the player to || S-Rank the mission ||. 1 cosmetic and 1 tattoo is unlocked per ending, but be aware because you have to interact with some stuff in the ending area so you actually get said items

Just completing the mission normally doesn't trigger any sort of cutscene or ending