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But lore wise all the missions are cool
I still find it a bit funny how D Platoon's second mission chronologically is to respond to a terrorist attack
my game is either bugging or i have crazy bad luck because i keep getting one shot
hard mode experience
VOID ought to release Los Locos DLC.š
Includes PvP and a map editorš©
Play as Los Locos
Where LARPers are made into trained operators
the hardest part about S ranking maps is finding all the civs bruh
man ok valley of the dolls S was kinda easy
@nova forge you lose 360 score for killing all 12 suspects
holy
pure chaos would be awesome
holy, how come?!
a few of them were incapacitated š
Incap/dead gives the same 5 score
i swear ive incapped all suspects and gotten an A+ before
The only difference is that incap does count for HVT objective
but that prob just depends on map
Number of suspects
like i incapped all suspects in thank you, come again and got an A+
The more you kill the more score you lose (30 score per suspect)
I mean you can see amount of score for both dead and incapacitated suspect when reporting/on score screen
4 dead suspects on gas station gives you A+, 5 - just A
How much points do I lose per dead officer?
š 5
At least they're generous

negative 5000 score if one of your teammates dies to a door trap within the first 15 seconds of the mission
I lost where to go on Carriers of the vine, its a little confuse for me.
I did clear 2 houses
There's a little house at the back of the map
Near the grave
theres an underground section of the map
try spamming the shout key to bait civilians/suspects into shouting back at you
Hey so is anyone else dealing with floating shells?
only on consoles, and has already been fixed in a dev build
And will most likely release on next update
Im on xbox so that makes sense
I all ready past this mission 5 minutes ago
oh lol
Now i on mission hospital center
Good luck, youll need it
Well i die cause of bomb
Really, on relapse?
You have like 30 min and theyre always in the same place
Not sure which safe position enter to hospital, underground parking lot or main enterance
The Morgue side one
Which I think is Main Entrance
Thatās a shock to me too
I mean Elephant I get it
On Relapse, I either die to attrition (so many Suspects and by like 80% done Iām wearing down), or to a shootout on the Bridge
Spawn the other side to avoid the bridge contact
So Iāve heard, but itās also so empty there
Such a weird spawn point, but itās nice to have it exist
Its the better of the 2 imo
You are on the HVTs side, you avoid the bridge contact, you take most of the fight (3 floors vs 2) so its better
I wanna get the the world and hermit achievement so what i can do, cant do like for example can i fire a officer? He can resign from stress?
Do anyone have tactic to S rank on 23 MB/s? Im trying but I lost one officer in the last fcking room
The Hermit - no KIA and incaps
Dev watch - no KIA and resigns
anything else is fine
Flash and gas
Its how I got mine. Also got lucky with most of the bad guys being in the other rooms and stairwell, having everyone in Michael's apartment is just unlucky RNG
Alright
Thanks, Im using gas, flashes and stingers but for now I have so many people in MIchael's apartment and its almost impossible to take them all out without using any officer
Stingers have such a limited range I've never seen much use in them. Flashbangs are much better
Throw gas through the hole in the wall in the mom's apartment right into Michael's room
i shotgun breached the main door into the apartment, had one guy throw a cs gas inside, 2 guys with shields push up and take fire while a guy behind beanbags the hell out of every living soul inside
and i sat there and watched like a proud father
Yeah man, they're useless for me. You can take those "stats" and go that way until you fuck all the way off
It does for small handgun calibers
How do I unlock the developer's watch? I got both achievements regarding Ironman, but no watch yet
Compete ironman without officers being killed or resigned
Can i fire an officer?
Yes
It does for any caliber
Without RESIGNING? Idont even have enough officers to swap, they depressed when a fl yenters the room
I did the ironman and got the dev watch but not any trophy
Just arrest few suspects alive, use 2 negotiators
You need at least C grade on Port Hokan
C on all missions?
They dont even get to unlock their traits, every 2 mission they gone
Only last one
Stop kill every suspect and they wont leave
Or replay first mission till you get all traits you need
K
are there more enemies the more players you are?
Nope

does this game work well on 21:9?
Dude every fucking time my load out is getting deleted
I hate this buggy fucking game doing this shit 24/7
save
That or modified the way you don't want it to
This happens when loading existing loadout sets, too.
Do you guys think a A24 Ready or Not movie would be amazing?
be better as a show
Wow, the SWAT AI is broken on Narcos too 
literally not following any commands and standing around half the time + sometimes phased into each other
do you not get achievement progress for im too old for this if you dont get all main objectives? Even if its still C?
Im pretty sure you need at least B grade 
got it on rust belt with c yday
Were you the host?
Idk then, i did not get it with all objectives completed but as soon as I modified score to be at least B it's start counting, tho I test it only few times so might miss some requirement
They should make it so that certain mods don't make your score unofficial
hello i just got ron and i'm playing through the commander mode
what should i be doing and running throughout? not looking for S rank just yet (i know that requires full non-lethal) but i'm curious as to what i should be doing
It doesn't matter if it is
I just rather it saving, like a verification progress or sum
I don't get what you mean tbh
Fair
It's still saving
Wait huh
Unofficial text does nothing
Ohh is it just not in the leaderboard if you get a record time or sum
?
Need a B at min
i mean kinda depends on how you wanna play it
Fuck me I just read some of the lore ahead for future missions
Didnāt know it was that kinda level of deep
I almost donāt want to continue
yup
It just got worse and worse the more I read.
Almost made me wanna rerun the missions I got through so far, and dome everyone involved
Whatever you want really every gun is good (except for the flux raider since itās more of a joke weapon) just use what you want
what about for my squad? or does the same answer apply
Whatever you want, I would recommend giving them their own classes of sort (like gas guy or tank) I would also heavily recommend having one person on your squad with a nonlethal primary for easier arrests
if you just want to get familiar with the game and not fiddle with equipment too much from mission to mission, I'd suggest just grabbing a reasonably short assault rifle and armour piercing ammo, same for your squad
Having all the same weapons on your squad isnāt very good
if im doing an S run i have two with shields, one with a breach shotgun and one with a cs launcher
Sounds good to me just make sure the shielders use the pepper ball pistol
yeah
Rip taser shield
even though i think we all have one mag for it they just tank everything
(that's generally not an optimal setup n.b., but it's one that's unlikely to lead to a situation that gets you killed simply because you brought the wrong stuff for the map)
normally my pepperball guy follows them and just pelts people
Yknow what they should add give shields the ability to knock someone their ass with a bash if close enough
Maybe it would be a bit too cartoony though lol
ive never used the shield myself but theres no melee option with it?
No you canāt bash with it
You can
Iāll believe you Iām too lazy to go check but I doubt it has any changes from normal bash
Iām pretty sure the only unique melee move you can do is taser bash
There is none, bash is used to make civilians comply
It works on suspects too
It's does deal morale damage but that it
I think I once snuck behind one and jabbed them and they immediently surrender and felt super fucking cool lol
Yeah, this is the only when when they are not alerted yet
Iāve actually have flanked people before while they are fighting my friend
It was only once on rust belt though but he definently didnāt notice me
I feel like the alert system in this game could be better as a whole though
Suspects will be like permanently in attack mode after it starts correct?
When suspects stress hits threshold or if you provoke them to shoot you
I know that but isnāt it something dumb like if a suspect starts shooting at you they will never be like out of āfight modeā
Suspects seem to always fight rather then run away which kinda blows
They will enter roaming state after 3 min of no contact with swat
Ah cool I mustāve never noticed
I still feel like the alert thing could be a little cooler like imagine a suspect seeing you and rather then opening fire or yelling atcha they run over and tell their friends or finds better spot.
i fr thought you were talking to your self

pfp of doom
I could be
Also I appreciate you having Se7en Brad Pitt rather then fight club Brad Pitt
i guess one guy with shield, one guy with non lethal nades, one breacher, and one assault guy ig
yea
I hope VOID will grant SWAT the ability to fire from cover, otherwise it's utterly ridiculous.
what about optimal graphics settings? generally i get a solid 70-90 but on some maps like lethal obsession i drop as low as 40-50 when outside
me personally i would place at mid
mid feels very optimal for most of the maps
and the graphics are good enough to detect enemies quite clearly and ur not just shooting pixels on a screen
what armor system do you guys use? right now i'm using heavy ceramic covering front and back though this gives 11 slots, what's the armor system most of you guys use?
You know what would be a cool feature
A ground drone like actual police use
One of the small wealed ones
More large tactical options in general would be nice
i use the same
full body heavy ceramic
oh i use front and back not full body
i heard of the letter that you can access in the evidence safe after Ends of the Earth mission, i havent get there yet but have they fixed the letter so that it doesnt sounds like google translated?
Light steel front only.
light ceramic front+back
Wrong person to reply to.
Steel has like a random chance to fracture and like oneshot you I think
Where did you get that from?
Splintering mechanic it says so in the armor description
Doesnāt exists, it can ricochets and potentially hits other people around you, doesnāt do anything to you.
Then why does it feel so shit T~T
Shit as in?
Too slow or dying too fast?
Then probably you get hit too much, full heavy steel weighs you down a lot.
if you're getting shot enough for it to break, then you fucked up
I usually dont get shot in missions
Light front steel is best since it have protection and mobility when you needed.
If I get shot I usually die instantly since I got hit in the head
Then run anti stab vest. 
Helmet?
Also use free lean more.
You can still get oneshot from a headshot with a helmet on
Sometimes it saves you so I like to take the helmet off so I don't have the chance of survival
Normal lean exposed your head first before your gun has proper view on the target.
No⦠no you donāt.
You either get triple tapped or double on the head.
A shotgun will kill you instantly if it hits on the limb up close or the head from any range
Straight up one shot on the head doesnāt exists as long your helmet is intact.
Unless suspects are literally firing their gun so fast that it makes one sound, It does.
try the mkV with JHP
it can one shot any npc on any difficulty if you hit limbs
yeah but thats like a 50 AE the Npcs magnum appears to be the 357
and I don't think a 357 can blow your whole arm off
Could be. 
Still no.
Your entire head is protected.
I've had it happen before (not saying its a problem I love it)
this really is the best game ever but how have they still not fixed the loading and non fps optimization, game runs great and is great but alt tab during the 5 min level load or main menu load and it crashes and just crashed mid game, up to date drivers 5070ti on ssd, same with when i played on my old pc
The npcs revolver can gib you the same way the shotgun does
If it hits you in a limb and you die you can hear the blood pouring sound from dismemberment
it also is well dismembered on your corpse if your on multiplayer
was about to breach the last door on lawmaker and it crashes š¤
try dx11
Why do civilians keep dying when I do the elephant mission I donāt ever get to them before they die
You sure itās the suspectās revolver and not your teammates shoots your legs with buckshot?
Cause only your shotguns are capable of dismemberment.
As far as i know.
I dont think AI teammates would shoot my corpse lol
the MKV can dismember with hollow points
dive had no problems with 12 on this pc but ill give it a shot anyways š
Nice.
Could be when you die, they have a line of sight on the suspect that have just killed you so they magdump on the killer and the buckshot accidentally hits your arms.
Also enemies that can just instantly one shot you anywhere on the body is incredibly dogshit design.
not really for a game like this
It actually makes it better
My main complaint about builds of the game like dark waters was that you were FAR too tanky
Still horrible game design and also unrealistic.
Just like many things in this game.
If you get shot you are going down dude be fr
Yeah if i get repeatedly hit in the head and purposely standing out in the open then i deserved to die.
Definitely not when they just hear a footstep and instantly knows itās me and magdump.
They did that in adam update, dont seem to that anymore
Yep, quite moronic of void to even think of adding that.
The suspect's armour mechanism should therefore be identical to that of SWAT, and it is evident that suspects will be more challenging to take down.
skill issue lowk
Your acting like getting one shotted hasn't been part of the swat series forever
Moreover, suspect's shotgun was clearly incapable of severing limbs against SWAT personnel.
If void adopts realistic game design principles, I don't believe the game would become easier; it might well prove more challenging.
I have proof if you want to see lol
Why didnāt you send it earlier?
I thought everyone knew that the shotgun could dismember swat
This has nothing to do with evidence; the data sheet clearly indicates that the suspect's shotgun is a weakened version, whereas only the SWAT shotgun is standard.
Totally my fault because the enemies can tells the differences between the sound of the footsteps of a 100kg swat and 100kg teammates through the wall.
Great job.
The suspect's shotgun was much like mindjot's helmet ā little more than a decorative accessory.
worth mentioning has anyone had any luck seeing the police npcs coming in after securing all the hostiles?
I put the proof in, dont say that a swat ai friendlied them since that literally cant happen
like the ones that are supposed to come in for evidence or whatever that was announced a while ago i still havent seen them but ive had people tell me theyre in the game
Those only spawns on practice mode.
damn hopefully in the regular mode soon it seems hella cool
And try leaving evidences around the maps, they should spawns in and collects those.
I'm also rather curious as to why VOID wouldn't dare equip the suspect with a proper shotgun ā is it because they're afraid players won't be able to handle it?
i have accidentally because when telling my guys to secure the area they pathtrace into walls instead of going to the guns or uncuffed people sometimes so i miss evidence regardless haha
they... do have shotguns?
skill issue game knows u cant handle it
the only missed oppurtunity is that suspects saiga 12 is only semi auto
and they can switch it too full like most guns
Cause they can easily solo your entire team if that were the case.
They fucking do⦠since always.
No I said that since hes saying that the suspects shotguns aren't "Proper shotguns" whatever that means
The hard mode are not truly a challenge mode; they ought to adopt a realistic approach.
I just dont get it I buy the dlc's try to play with my buddy who didnt and he gets told cant join a modded session. I even launched in safe mode
the games realisitic enough
Because in the game, the suspect's shotgun variant bears no resemblance whatsoever to the SWAT weapon.
Oh right. Every weapons that the suspect have AP trait, meaning their damages hitting your limbs will always do 30% of the damage that is already being capped.
Pfft-
well neither do any of the guns
Have you disabled checksum?
no?
Did you know that Void should remove the damage cap? That would be more realistic.
They ought to increase the number of SWAT personnel to counterbalance this.
u right the right word isn't realistic, maybe "authentic" is the right word. All I know is that the game is pretty close to swat 4 in terms of its "realism."
You should cause thatās like the first thing you do when itās comes to modding.
Except I'm not run ing mods
No, never with how gun blazing the current suspect are.
What about your friends?
However, Ron had neither snipers nor drones.
And you should disable it anyway cause.
Swat 4 didn't have drones
Console players there do they cant
And I can 100% see why they cut snipers
if you've played swat 4 you would know they were basically pointless
Sad that void has got rid of ronās authenticity just to sells to a wider audience.
ESRB got rid of it and you know it
Theres LOTS of things to hate on RoN about but the censorship wasn't their fault
Going back on their first and most important goal.
They literally didn't have a choice
you want the game to be wiped off the face of the earth by the esrb
like the nudity and needles
They in fact do.
Donāt release game on console.
ESRB applies to pc as well
and + just install the uncensored version like the devs told you to? Lazy
Early access have these features up until void decided to release the game on console.
Which is 1.0.
When the game is ācompletedā.
1.0 was not the release of console
I forgot.
its as simple as the esrb literally didn't care since it was a indie game exclusive to PC
Planning the console release means they needed to rate it again so if they went back on the console the ESRB would still demand the changes for the PC version as well.
This has happened for other pc games as well
The ESRB is a stupid fucking company, blame them.
but without them who will think of the childern
I don't get why ESRB makes it so AO games cant be sold
but if RoN got the AO rating it wouldn't even be allowed on steam
The only reason they didn't get AO before is because it was viewed as artistic nudity but I guess they changed their mind
the ESRB does not dictate sales all they do is rate the game. It is on storefronts to what they allow to be sold but in about 99% of cases they do not carry AO rated games
Correction then their rating makes it so it can't be sold sorry
@jolly verge can suspectās shotgun dismembers your corpse?
Forgot doing this earlier.
But that is entirely on storefronts, however this is also not counting global ratings boards which can have government backing to fully block sales in entire markets
i;e the ACB for Australia
Censorship is so stupid and I just hate seeing people get mad at the censored rather then the censor-ers
I uhhh showed you proof dude
One of your guys is holding a shotgun.
I just wanna confirm.
Also revolver gib your limbs are still utter bullshit.
Swat ai can't friendly fire

They literally can't unless you provoke them to
also you sure that it wasn't modded?
gun's skin or also the gun's stats as well?
The cop with the spas 12 was a reskin of the 870 the gun I was holding was a reskin of the Sr16

I dont see how that affect the suspects weapons ability to blow a limb off but whatever
Ron should be bringing out some .300 BLK rifles next.
It is because the suspect's shotgun was never capable of severing limbs from the outset; this was deliberately programmed by Void. The ammunition they used was a weakened variant.
Geniunely tell me why a cosmetic mod and 2 guns would have a secret mechanic that changes the suspects shotgun
or you just forgot that you have gore mod on.
do gore mods even exist
ah cool I've never seen one but thats the base game gib model you can tell
Why is the single player not letting me go past greased palms even though I got a D in it
did you do all main objās?
pretty sure civilians are basically a side objective masked as a main objective
Hello. Do you thing. Will there be some graphics update - lightning fix in future update?
yes.
I sure hope so but i doubt it
They are using buckshot without dismember chance so nope
and can suspect's revolver do it?
Nah, only players buckshot and slugs have a dismember chance in vanilla
so this is modded?
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Sure thing it's modded
@chilly thorn
also thank you for your services.
there are settings that allow you to skip the penalty listings
I TRY TWISTED NERVE AGAIN AND GET SHOT IN THE HEAD FOR LIKE THE 6TH TIME IN A ROW WHAT ARE THESE CRACK HEADS AIM DUDEEE
crack
i swear the dudes in twisted aim have better aim than ANYONE else in the base game missions š
what setup are you running?
they have godly aim i though and i swear they didnt when i played the game for the first time i didnt ever change the difficulty š
Hard difficulty is the only difficulty šāāļø
FINALLY OH MY GOD
the last dude took like 5 beanbag shots to stop chasing me and drop his knife i was so scared
This happens to me every time i try to s rank carriers of the vine they never wanna drop their gunsš
that didnt happen to me in carriers of the vine lol
i think it only took like 1 or 2 takes but in twisted aim it took me SO long
why do my officers have no survival instincts bro they get shot at and just stand there š
now hes dead
Fr like i tell them to clear the room and they watch a guy open a door and shotgun them in the face
In Neon tombs my guys would just throw themselves to the terrorists
i told them to clear a room and a suspect was spraying us but he just stood there and didnt even try to shoot him š
Lmaooo they always be doing that i always have to give them shields
fr but for me its ides of march
That one wasnt too bad for me but my teammates definitely didnt survive most of my play throughs
Elephant is the most annoying one for me
fr
I hear a lot of people say relapse is really hard but it only took my 2 tries
It gives u so much more time than elephant
its really hard i was literally just replying to this message "or relapse"
šš
I equip half my guys with non lethal on missions where i have to take someone alive
yeahhh because especially when they have a shotgun they just dont care
Whats your favorite mission
uhhhh
thank you come again, ends of the earth, and elephant are my top 3 i think
idk what my favourite is
Mine is probably Port Hokan
i really did not like it the first time i played it because you cash get shot from so many angles
Yeahhh hide and seek is really good
And the ai arenāt smart
I think my favorite is ends of the earth
Yeah
Itās a good one
Which one is that?
I donāt remember
The brothers 3d printing parts to make guns full auto
And their terminally ill mom is in the house , their story is pretty sad its one of the mission where i really want to go non lethal
Oh yeah
Yeah thatās one of the saddest missions
And the map is also really fun to play, and the scenery was awesome being able to see the ferris wheel in the distance and the beach and the storm damage to the pool
i hate that to get s tier i have to not kill the streamer in the second mission and the dad in valley of the dolls
Ughh i shoulda got the dlc when it was on sale
SO REAL
Yeah man itās a really cool one
Yes
Such is the game
I cant wait for more missions to be added even if they're paid dlc
True
Would like to see more content coming
More different type of missions more guns and other stuff
Imagine a plane mission like that one from cod4
Id also wanna see something in a staduim
Yes
Some long range one would be really good
One member could be the sniper (you or a teammate) and you could help and spot hostiles in the map
Bro imagine a carnival and you gotta clear around the rides and thru fun houses and shit
Yeah that would be so cool
Thatād be really cool
So much potential
Letās see what the devs put out

I hope theyre creative
I hope so as well
FUCK i forgot that ides of march has traps
Oomf
wdym one of my friends š
No?
I mean oomf like oomf you got hit in da nudz
ohh

I don't like traps bc im addicted to kicking down doors
idk how dumb that is compared to lockpicking
whys the ads so fast when ur leaning
so you donāt get domed
?
I would kick down more doors if I didn't break my leg trying to kick down the first wooden door I see
Hey is this only my problem or the sound system, which is important in this kind of game, is broken?
What sound device do you use
Surround system, headphones, etc.
Just some cheap speakers, but my problem is that the sounds do not reflect the reality. Sometimes I hear voices, from a certain room, but in reality, they come from the upper floor
Do you think that if I use headphones, the problem will be fixed?
It should fix the problem and it's actually better gameplay wise, but if you just change sound setting in the settings menu to a surround sound system it might potentially fix your problem
It fixed mine and I don't have a surround system in my room
Using headphones will be a much more enjoyable experience however.
Ok, I am gonna try, thanks
Will CS gas ever be fixed or will it stay nerfed to shit?
Depends on the situation
Always at least check for a Trap first, if the map/difficulty is set to have them
And even then, might want to check for Suspects behind the door
it was intended not a bug, so i doubt it tbh
In case they're aiming right at it
they took it a bit too far though imo
It should've never been nerfed while they had the idea to make the Flashbang Primary Launcher
At least CS took a second or two to kick in
Use breaching shotgun to open doors from safe distance.
I like how it was intended to make CS gas unusable.
Well, on rotary grenade launcher CS gas does literally nothing. I hope it is a bug and not intentional.
while I think cs gas needed a bit of a nerf because it was too op compared to flash/stinger, I fully agree with you because the m32a1 made everything look like shit lol
CS Gas also mixed it up vs only running Ballistic Masks, too
Since otherwise, you wouldn't want to engage/move through the cloud
ye i agree with you, im just saying what they said
How was M32A1 buffed? I forgot. I know that it became new meta after some update, but I forgot what changed.
they should have nerfed it slightly not alot
ye now all i run is anti flash + ballistic mask
Exactly, like there's little point to use anything but
And pepper spray is unusable. Make it stun at least. Suspects just ignore it.
I do know that their accuracy decreases, but peper spray has low range and accurancy does not matter.
put all your slots in flash launcher ammo and you got instantaneous surrenders basically with as little risk as possible
I guess VOID like their meal bland beecause they hate pepper.
Literally, what is an accuracy decrease going to do against a Suspect that's right in front of you.
ye pepperspray used to be the most op shit ever, now all it does is decreases their accuracy lol
It makes no sense
Yes, I know. What I mean, why was it bad before some update?
I am doing S rank on hard with my mates and flashbangs are too good.
it wasn't reloadable in early access, just 6 shots and then it finishes and you're out of launcher ammo, now it's reloadable
I am a bit confused.
You say it wasn't reloadable in EA, but then you say you have 6 shots. It has only one "magazine". How could you use 6 shots then?
we're talking about m32a1 not m320, you're confusing the primary launcher with long tactical launcher
Oh damn, yes I confused myself.
Was the M32A1 in EA? I do not remember such thing.
yea it was, just 1 drum with 6 shots, but couldn't be reloadable
Well deserved. And isn't it 5 shots, as one is already loaded?
nah 4 including the 1 already loaded
Roger, thanks!
to which statement you're asking? xD
any strats or pro tips for S ranking twisted nerve? imo it looks tedious
The flash
Clear tunnels first and bring wedges
After tunnel then first house followed by second, clear attic first at second house
ye but which part of the conversation
The uhhhh ammo
Both
ye but I still don't know what you're referring to exactly, what's your question?
The M320 flash has 6 cylinders?

I mean
used to have 6 ammo, now it has 4
hi
Man, this looks like a stupid question out of context
Hello
i just got confused to what you were referring as were talking about more than 1 thing xD
but ye flash variant used to have 6, while stinger and gas had only 4
now they all have 4
xD
Damn
Which do you prefer? Flashbangs or Stingers?
Will they ever fix gas? Idk if it'll be the same like the OG one
What did the stingers do to you brotha š
maybe buff it slightly if they listen to the players, but doubt it will be same as it used to be
nothing just so many disadvantages with them tbh when compared to flash
I have 0 idea if gas grenades act like smokescreen, seen people using them like that
I thought they had bigger radius?
ye they block enemy sightlines
Wtf
that's their only advantage (only for hand thrown stingers though)
This is true for nade variants, not 40mm
oh
Damn
Does this also apply to both M320 and M32A1?
ye but their radius is now different as well
Well.. what about the disadvantages aside from friendly fire penalty?
Pepperballs too
I guess CS still has it's uses
Oh
cs gas is awesome
Kinda, it's useless to make suspects surrender now tho 
i get suspects to surrender with gas
Yea
Flashbang or stinger is just better in any way atm vs gas
well granted i pelt people with beanbags
This is the only reason why they surrender 
Flashes bounce and roll around less, easier to throw cos they are thinner, safer (even though deaths by stinger practically never happy but play it safe),
Won't friend fire, can be used more aggressively for dynamic clearing with goggles especially (with stingers you'd get disoriented yourself)
well sometimes too if you gas them and have multiple officers swarm them they also surrender
idk man i just get people to surrender with gas without needing to shoot sometimes
Rather than these, I'd much prefer the enemies in the next DLC to be able to throw flashbangs, posing a genuine threat to you.š
I doubt they surrender because of gas, I mean they will just run out of gas area faster than stun kicks in #š¬general-discussion message
I didn't realise about the less bounce and rolling
yea, sometimes they keep rolling to areas you don't want them to go, also every bounce increases stress and they bounce more so..
wat is it?
tell me
i forgot where it is, look for it
bruh
i think ill die of old age when waiting for the grading to finish
lol
It's was possible to close it right away, but they remove it
must have a lot of penalties then XD
there is a setting somewhere to skip penalties
no, fail alot, it takes forever to rerun a mission cuz theres no try again button and it takes forever for the grading to finish
Nope
holy fuck do i have to open the game just because you havent explored the settings menu
Yes 
there's the restart button, plus you can quickly press escape and restart before the grading too
eat shit and die
y tho?
i accidentally shot the mom in the ends of the earth in the shoulder with my pistol when taking down the suspects i feel so bad
at least shes alive and conscious :C
Probably because it cause some issues, idk
iirc u can access a letter after that mission, im new so i havent seen it yet, the letter is so terrible because its literally google translated from eng to viet
literally in the first menu
i got killed i deserve it ngl š
What does it have to do with the score screen at the end of the mission 
well, ig with it i get to speed up the rerun mission process then, it still takes forever for the game to load headquarter then load the mission again
In game, not after mission
it disable both

are you using 543548953 mods?
DLC is a mod, opinion rejected š
What both? It's only for a score pop-ups in game, you still have a grade score screen at the end 
no it disables both, it works for me
it skips the score screen and just goes to HQ
trust š
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Ok
with it gone the time ill have to wait to rerun a mission is halved, the loading still takes forever tho
also when are you gonna fix the keybinds saving so that i dont have to re-do all of my keybinds every single launch
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ye, quite annoying that i have to re-do my tmb keybinds every launch
I am not a developer, you're barking at the wrong tree
ready or not is the scariest non horror game istg
how so?
bug report channel is a paper shredder
Not really
just reset them all to default and rebind them once, dont use the delete keybind for the individual or it fucks it up again
your keybinds completely not saving to the cloud is problematic, no?
because it means your data isnt saving properly
I think there has to be some other underlying issue
the underlying issue is that my keybinds are erased every time i launch the game
ye, pressing clear button
safe mode, directX12, directX11, clean mode
i dont have that issue, but the keybinds that uses tmb are always erased for me
fucks it up
Why not put read only on the config file then
i dont press clear button
you did at some point
h o w
when editing the keybinds
is this supposed to be my fault that pressing the clear button completely breaks the entire keybind system
apparently, i think wat he meant is that its avoidable
no, im just telling you what to do to fix the problem
then have fun adjusting the keybinds with every launch
only keybind i have reset every time i start the game is my freelook bind
for me it doesnt exist anymore
it erases keybinds no matter what happens
clear or no clear
mine doesnt with the method i said
did you reinstall game or verify files
and you're not following lol
for me its the compliance and interact bind, i used thumb mouse buttons for that
multiple times yes
my thumb mouse binds have always stayed, for some reason its just my freelook bind but it might just be cause its Lalt
you're giving advice to a problem that im not having, you're giving advice to a problem you had
you're not helping
i had the same problem as you though and it fixed it for me
so it should work for you
we dont have the same problem because you have a solution that doesnt work for me
but you're stubborn
no, it shouldnt, thats not how bug fixes work
and ive already told you it doesnt work
Stop being so insultive towards anyone. He tried, obviously doesn't work, no need to keep bashing him
well idk then, i tried, sorry
i told him "it no work" and hes just repeatedly bitching at me
i dont understand that
no means no
He didn't bitch at you once
so the first house on twisted nerve would be the left house right? one next to tunnels
you never said "i tried what you suggested", just instantly said it doesnt work, etc. etc...
lies
My understanding too
ok mate lol, idk what to tell you, i tried opening your eyes by helping
and it backfired on me i guess
Look man, people are not paid to help you, we both misunderstood what you meant
you didnt try opening my eyes
you asked me if i tried something
i said "yes i did"
and you repeatedly restated for 6 mesasges to tell me to try it again insulting me
you're not paid to misunderstand me either
Okay, knock it off
ok, understood, not gonna argue with you
you're so unhelpful it would be more helpful for you to just ban me from the server
vro š„
Oh I think I got on at the wrong time
Can you just calm down?
i dont even know how old my bug report is, probably 3 weeks
And it won't get fixed until the next major update
i have Lalt on free lean bind, it has never been reseted for a few launches now
yeah i binded it to somethind else just cause i never used free lean
If it's even the game's fault, it could be something else too
while its super cool, i just never had a reason to use it
the problem is that this is a very serious game issue
if the keybinds dont save, what else is going to fail to save? mission completion?
but freelook's not really that important imo unless youre going for a cinematic thing or something
As I said, the issue doesn't have to be the game
I think it is fairly useful when youāre holding a suspect and telling them to comply and need to look around quickly to see where your mates are
Did you reset keybinds to default and then rebind button you need without clearing it?
In this regard
that's what i tried saying, but apparently it didnt work
Weird
ye it worked for like all the other people i had suggested it to

yes ive done that before twice
yea thats what i tried saying but oh well lol
middle mouse unbinds, all number keys unbind
laser key unbinds, grenade key unbinds
the entire numpad unbinds
actually i put it on the toggle one, figured with the amount of extra lean i got from free its worth it to keep it just in case
one time literally the entire interaction tab unbinded and nothing else
yk im gonna try that
try deleting the input.ini file so it generates a new one
ill try that when i get home
then reset to default and never use clear button, just replace/change whatever you like (without using clear function)
the average time i spend rebinding everything is like 15 minutes every launch
ok
the problem still stands that using the clear button at all just breaks keybinds
ye it's tedious having to do it every time
yeah i know, its annoying, just avoid the clear button until hopefully it gets fixed by the devs
im pretty sure i dont have enough keys to relocate all of the binds from default
after you set the binds however you like, quit the game and let the cloud backup sync the files then reopen the game
i might just go into a mission with no grenade key itll be so fun
okk
im gonna get one of those elon musk neuralinks and put it to my RoN game so when it resets my keybinds the neuralink gives me an anyeurism
You can also put the keybinds file on read only which prevents any edits, problem would be that you couldn't chsnge keybinds until you unclicked it
ill try that second
ye leave that for a last resort
the suspects on dorms found a way to attack the SWAT with cybernetic electronic warfare
erasure of keybinds
If the keybinds reset despite putting it on read only, it means that either steam or the game is removing the file upon startup and creating it anew
make that a new mission have suspects that delete a random keybind when they shoot you
unbinds your shoot key
a modder is gonna take that idea and make a new mod lol
unbinds your Forward key 
or itll rebind LMB1 to quick throw
make a new mission where you arrest agent 47
There is a Twisted Nerve mission, make sure to set Hard difficulty 
Yeah, just had a rage quit on that map
It was because of my fellow officers who got stuck
same with me trying to get s tier
i finally did it but god it so so annoying
But Greased Palms, oh my god...
i havent tried to s tier greased palms yet
Thereās maybe like 4-5 active modders left for this game, I highly doubt it
Modding scene is hella dead unfortunately
that's what happens when each update break a lot of mods tbh, even though some of them might fix them to work with the newer version, but some others might move on to a different game
Is there a way to play solo without bots?
host multiplayer friends only
thx
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More than that, but I get what you are trying to say.
Unfortunately this is just the case for any live service game.
Updates will happen, mods will break.
Is the update ready or not 

Itās stuck readying for a Breach due to its pathing being bugged 
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still not over how I watched it happen on Narcos yesterday
Two of my Officers literally were stuck phasing into each other
But they canāt move through me to get to their Breaching position any other time???

Well as for yesterday i finished the game
I will go to buy myself a fucking hokaido, I am gonna make a soup out of it, and if there is no some official update annoucement after I finish cooking, I am gonna eat it tomorrow for lunch instead of today for dinner.
I'm happy i finished the game in like 24h of playtime lmao
W
so in 2 days nvm lol

now im waiting to get money and im buying the alpha pass
What is alpha pass?
Yeah unfortunately. Iāve been modding this game since 1.0 and weāve lost like 90% of the main modders for this game š props to kiwi for sticking around lol
it's to get both dlcs and the new one coming this year
i don't know if it's on steam but it's on xbox
Ok, hope it comes soon
same
Can you get a achievement "Sleeper Agent" with friend or you need to do it solo? I tried with my friend but we cant get it (maybe we are slow xD)
bro twisted nerve is such a frustrating map to S rank because of how much of a maze it is
spent 10 minutes looking for the money cache lol
NAHH twisted nerves is nothing compared to the others
no i know
ive only S ranked like 6 maps but im not planning on doing it for all of them
i figured but i just stick in standard
i could also mod them in but theres no fun in it once you know what ur doing
Yeah
but atm i dont really need too many cosmetics
all the ones i have are the ones i wanted anyways but idk
if i play with friends i know for a fact we're getting a B rating at the highest cause we just mow everyone down but doing S is fun once in a while
lmao fair
i plan to S rank hard all of them
itll be a test of patience and will
even worse im gonna probably try it without mods
Mk so my friend is having a problem where he genuinely can't hear any of us but he can hear us pressing the push to talk button in game
All the soft objectives are right next to each other on the same floor
does it count as arresting suspects if theyre incapacitated or do they have to give up?
Incapacitated counts as arrested
Just zip em
Are there any Paramedic or EMT equivalents to RoN
In what way? Like navigate a map and provide care? ...that actually sounds kinda cool, a little like a more serious viscera cleanup duty where you go in after the chaos...
I finished hide and seek, but game doesnāt count it into the achievement, do I need complete it without mods?
mods do not impact anything
Ok, but still, why it didnāt count it into achievement?
which
can i do the off duty achievement with friends or wont it count
is there any update on the next dlc ? or why its taking so long ?
hey anyone know how to get beat cop? I tried with AI team and I ran shield but I never got it any idea what i did wrong?
Did you get C
i got A but missed a soft ob
Are there any groups that are taking people?
are you sure they don't affect achievements?
They do not.
Mods do not impact anything, really.
The only thing it does is add the unofficial score label at the score screen
Which can be ignored
ohhhh i see sorry that's where i got mixed up
why limit amount of equipment presets
there's a limit?
What rank did you get?
What achievement?
Did you used anything else like lockpick?
it aint taking long thats the normal times void releases them at
That shit gave me like 3 migraines
Neon Tomb is heavy in lore, but the music hurts my eyes and ears while I mag dump insurgents like it's insurgency sand storm
I know right
I wish we had different music for it each time
I wish they let you play different tracks
so it's not just like 2000s edm music blasting
I'll suffer listening to phonk in neon tomb before I rerun that shit
Imagine if you could DJ and just start playing the shitty los suenos rap
Tbh, I liked the 23gb rap music
I like drill and rap, and basically everything but phonk and edm
Imagine if the suspects had a chance to change the club music to like some arab like jihad music
Would be better
They got some fire music taste
āHey cops! Lets change this beat some!ā gets domed
-# splat
Department of Energy gun?
It was cool as hell
Yep! Look it up
I forgot that random US departments just have guns
Murica
o-rah
We need the option to play prolonged regular police patrol type missions
Playing as the first responders and like half way in you get Judge and his team would be crazy
Like imagine that as the new DLC
wandering the streets with a pistol, taser, pepper spray, and a shotgun or MK18 in your patrol car
Be a cooler intro
Suddenly you have to run like hell from a crackhead
Imagine if we had a mission with a sniper positioned outside and we could order them to shoot certain targets
Like an actual full scale assault dlc
Yes.
Imagine the option for 8 man squads
I made a whole book based around that
Basically ATF, National Guard and SWAT getting jumped by the whole city LA riot style
whats the best smg overall? I like to be able to move quickly personally
Imagine an M60 as a long tactical
Or as a primary
Judge sending angry Uncle Sam's Footballs down range
Barrett M82 trust
Imagine running around hipfiring the barrett on elephant
Payday short Barrel too
I want more retro shit lowkey like a colt monitor
LEE ENFIELD??
YESS GIVE ME A BREN WHILE YOUāRE AT IT
shit give me a musket and a Heavy Saber I'll go running in yelling "GIVE EM STEELLLL!"
I lowkey want a thompson, a garand, and wood furniture for the M14 and 870
Maybe field stock options for all the shotguns
Imagine an M2 carbine

Tbh I want a right n proper CAR15
I want a Auto Shotgun
Or a Russian 2g
Hit the suspect with 2g and watch him go flying like a cartoon character
i dont know if a game like that exists, i imaigne it would be very difficult to make authentic paramedic/EMT work very entertaining as a game, because its extremely stressful and can be complicated
and it can be frustrating because sometimes people just... die, even though it seems like you did everything right/everything you could
"just... die," bawomp
Yea
Make it so you get to drive the ambu truck and fuck round with friends
xd lol
the patient had a previously undiscovered and undetectable allergy to one of the 54983534 ingredients in the medicine you just gave him to prevent his eyes from melting into yogurt
(average paramedic experience)
We need an ambulance he's dying!
This guy about to go full speed through the site while his friend struggles to grab the man dying on the floor at 90mph:
Maybe crackhead sedation
it was the 54983533th ingredient š
You have to pin down a crackhead after he wakes up in narnia and inject him with 16 doses of like horse tranquilizers only to find out he has the tolerance of an elephant due to mixing it with his crack
Elephant tranq
my bad gang <3
your patient wakes up despite being sedated with the most powerful anaesthetic on the planet and the first thing he does is call you a slur
You now have to be hospitalized too because the crackhead pulled a knife out his pants and stabbed you
That's why you gotta knock the shit out of him
Make sure he WONT stand up
F rank - crippled patient.
Give him batman level injury that way he won't be able to stab you!
F for Fantastic!
fun fact if the patient even spits on you or gets blood on you its like 2 years worth of paperwork
WHAT
ARE YOU FR
My friends would probably end up having one us with a 12g pointed at the guy while I'm stuck doing the medical stuff and the driver is pulling a 110mph in a school zone
I'm the only doctor in my friend group btw ā¤ļø
Nah youād probably be stuck to like a G26 or smth compact
YOUāRE A DOCTOR??
Nah we about to fit a whole 2g elephant gun
I mean my friend group is literally a samurai, marine and his little brother then a big ass depressed guy
very diverse
only I can do all of the roles required for a mission ever.
Suddenly you dispatch and use a fire axe to kill a raging crackhead who had a gun
That would be fucking bad ass
After giving him narcan
But HOLY PTSD
Till you get shot of course
Meh
āHES GOT A .44 MAGNUM FUCKING RUNN!!!ā
āAUGHHH HE SHOT ME AUHTHTHRNRJ PUT A TOURNIQUET ON MY LEG!!ā
I've do remember playing stuff like super hot and I'd do that kinda shit
Imagine if you could emote on the suspects
Just start hitting the macarena on a pile of corpses
I'd literally beat a man with a plate before taking his weapon and just spearing it at his friend
We need a level with an arsonist
hot pockets (literally)
Maybe the eco group thing that hit heavywell and did the shit in lawmaker as well?
Hmm..
Lowkey want the option to run pistol red dots more on the ARs
will ready or not ever go on sale again?
i dont think the devs are even interested in their own game anymore
Just did buy cheap buy twice full rambo and made a realization
I carry way too much ammo to not use auto
no not that i know of
Better to have and not need than need and not have. I love bangers tho
If we had a 10mm or 40 s&w pistol Id use it, currently I use a M45A1 cause marsoc aesthetic RULES
I like stopping powah
45-70 govt
on average i carry at most 4 mags
unless its for S runs or bigger maps
in a pistol or lever gun, also yes there is a 45-70 revolver
from magnum research.
Me too
I carry 4 mags all the way
i say that and if i use an smg its most likely 5
Hi everyone, you know how to get lower latency when plays with friends? all ouf us are from Colombia (SA)
so this is something i just somehow thought of now but do you weigh more having more stuff on you or just having heavier armor?
cause ive never noticed a difference other than stronger armor makes you heavier
Different armor types do make you slower, yes
Kevlar is the quickest, ceramic, and finally steel is the slowest if I remember correctly
yeah i know that but i just didnt know if there was a weight system with the items you can have on you
like instead of having the max amount of items you can carry, would you be quicker having only half of those items on you
It could just be me but I feel slower with some weapons over others
i see
That Iām actually not certain of, I would guess no but am not sure
its just a random thought that kinda crossed my mind just now
stolas mentioned?


