👮ron-discussion

[bronze crypt]

But I get the argument

[chilly thorn]

The Hide and Seek S rank when 1.0 first dropped was hell

[glass heart]

i wonder why deadchecks (shots to the head really) sound different depdending on if they are still alive or not

its a really weird quirk

[chilly thorn]

RoN needs to bring back the swat 4 mechanic where depending on the difficulty the mission wont count as passed if you dont get a certain rank

[bronze crypt]

Hear hear

[chilly thorn]

Like if you get less than a C on the map you shouldn't be able to progress through to the next one on hard mode lol

[bronze crypt]

Never noticed that

Should not produce a different sound

[glass heart]

yeah if they are dead its like the bullet phases through them

you just hear the floor being shot

[chilly thorn]

sometimes suspects will make breathing sounds when you shoot them in the head

[bronze crypt]

In fact it shouldn’t make a sound at all apart from the impact of the projectile striking a soft target (or hard if it hits armour)

[glass heart]

if they are alive you hear a pop sound

[glass heart]

thsi actually pisses me off

how hard is it to cut off voicelines for headshots

[bronze crypt]

I blow their heads wide open and they still cry

[glass heart]

oh and also the silly bleeding animations

[chilly thorn]

its only with AP on pistols from my knowledge

[glass heart]

no bro, you are not clutching your throat still after being shot another 20 times

[glass heart]

its on every weapon

at least when deadchecking

im not sure for first round headshots

[bronze crypt]

I would show you old anims but very few videos are still out there

[chilly thorn]

thats because of the bug where incap lines wont get interupted by the suspects dying in the new patch

[reef anvil]

looks inside
turned off dismemberment post mortem

[glass heart]

bruh lmao

[bronze crypt]

I think they no longer have collisions after they die

For the rounds at least

[chilly thorn]

They do actually it was adam update that had broken collisions

[glass heart]

make sense, wouldnt want dead ppl blocking doorways

[chilly thorn]

the update that added all the death animations

[reef anvil]

you can't dismember bodies after they die.

[glass heart]

thats not what hes talking about

[bronze crypt]

You can with the mods I have

And yes, that’s besides the argument

[glass heart]

bullets just phase through them in vanilla at least

[bronze crypt]

^

[glass heart]

its kind of immersion breaking but so are 2602062 other things about this game

[chilly thorn]

They leave a bullet whole so I wouldn't say they phase through them

[glass heart]

you dont hear the round impacting

[bronze crypt]

Sometimes I see the round impact on the surface beneath them for some reason

[glass heart]

and you barely see the bullet hole once you shoot them again on the ground

ive shot an entire mag into someones head and no visual change

[bronze crypt]

That’s because of the update

[glass heart]

i know it is

[chilly thorn]

penetration

[bronze crypt]

Just use booms bloody ballistics

[glass heart]

but even disregarding updates the gore system needs work

serious work too

[chilly thorn]

Thats because of UE5, it broke the deformation for bullet holes

[bronze crypt]

But if you are lying on the floor and I fire a round in your head, it won’t be the ground beneath you responding to the impact, but your head. There would be red mist, not dust

[chilly thorn]

Have the devs acknowledged it, No. of course they haven't because nobody talks about it.

BRING BACK THE DEFORMATION!!!

[bronze crypt]

Because of “censorship” as it cuts back on graphic content

[chilly thorn]

Ue5 update was home invasion.

[bronze crypt]

It’s not a mistake

[chilly thorn]

If it wasn't a mistake they would have mentioned it

[glass heart]

also the cubemaps on some maps are still fucked

the blood looks like liquid mercury

how do you fuck these things up, honestly

[bronze crypt]

They did reduce the visuals so it’s to be expected

Eventually it will recover (hopefully)

[chilly thorn]

Reduce the visuals what do you mean?

You mean the blood effects, thats confirmed to be broken I believe.

[bronze crypt]

No

The game looks objectively “worse”, it was taken down a notch in terms of visual fidelity

[glass heart]

didnt they also say cs gas was broken but later went back on it saying it was intentional actually

[chilly thorn]

They fixed that a bit ago

[bronze crypt]

See side by side videos

[bronze crypt]

No, they did not

It is intentional

Because consoles have to run good too

[chilly thorn]

It literally looks the exact fucking same for me on PC

[bronze crypt]

There are differences

[chilly thorn]

In fact I think the game looks better now lol, they fixed a lot of the lighting bugs on dark maps

Only complaint I have is that some of the shadows are still a little fuzzy buts always been like that

[bronze crypt]

Check DM

[low tulip]

hi everyone. I keep running into a problem. All of my teammates or in crisis state. I gave them all break by not playing for 1 year and came back and they were all still in a state of crisis. The game hasn't given me any SBAGS so how do I reduce thier stress levels?

[reef anvil]

send them to therapy or do the cooler method, give them all non lethal, speedrun 4U gas station or thank you come again

[glass heart]

this reads like a post for laughs but time doesnt play a factor in stress level reduction

only the amount of deaths per mission and missions completed while off the team do

they recover via therapy and being allowed off the team for a while

[tardy light]

https://www.nexusmods.com/readyornot/mods/3278 Noone got time for stress

[bronze sequoia]

The Pepper Pistol still absolutely fuckin sucks, are we ever getting a fix for it?

I put a full mag into a guy and had to switch to my taser because it did piss all to him

[chilly thorn]

Idk what you expected it to be lol

[bronze sequoia]

Useful
Why add it if a whole mag literally does nothing? It's a waste of a slot

[chilly thorn]

3 shots will stagger anyone in any armor so thats nice and it being a pepperball means it means suspects can't fake surrender

so I would say its pretty useful

Its also just sastifying to use more than the taser because it doesn't have fucked animations

[bronze sequoia]

The rifle actually stuns them like it's a grenade so it does more than just "stagger"
Also what's wrong with the taser? Looks fine to me'

[chilly thorn]

The taser animations look weird to me

more of a personal preference thing though

I like the swat 4 animations where they cartoonishly stand up and shake

[torpid onyx]

i mean 6 pepperballs is nothing

the trpl is useless just use a pepperball long gun or beanbag shotgun

[errant bane]

only useful in like the most urgent of emergencies

(whenever i run out of GL ammo)

[low tulip]

Do they not automatically fet sent to therapy?

[low tulip]

The only way I've been able to reduce stress lelvels to by having an SBAGS member. without it they all remain in the red. Sounds like I'll have to play around with the game a little more to sort it out

[chilly thorn]

man I hope the old port ost comes back in some-way-shape-or form

like can't they just slap it on another map

[torpid onyx]

the only way to reduce stress is by arresting a significant amount of people alive or sending them to therapy

and you need to manually select which characters go to therapy and then for them to progress in therapy you need to complete 2/3 missions depending on whether they were stressed or crisis

[reef anvil]

Just do 4U gas station 4 times

On non lethal

Brings officers back to normal efficiency

Saves therapy

[timber fjord]

Anyone know if custom maps are fixed?

[marsh lark]

Yes, some are.

[timber fjord]

oh alright

imma search for some on nexus mods

Ty sir moderator

[marsh lark]

No problem, I would recommend finding maps after the LSS#3 patch, you could try LSS#2 patch but I am not entirely sure how the third patch affected map mods

[onyx swift]

Finally got the Developer’s Ruined Watch

With all A+ (some from friendly fire before the recent Flashbang fix, some from rare Suspect crossfire) and S Ranks on the Ironman Run

I almost had an officer die on Hide and Seek because he lagged behind in open fire

Makes me wish that the AI fixes came sooner

[onyx swift]

This, arrest Suspects whenever possible to keep the stress at bay (or go Non-Lethal to skip all that, barring Elephant)

[onyx swift]

It’s good for Non-Lethal runs with AI

Beforehand, your Team AI could sometimes get ammo for their secondary randomly (if they run out of Primary) and go blasting

Immediately invalidating your S Rank if they got a Suspect incapped

So giving them the Pepperball Pistol makes it not a worry

And it’s the only secondary you can use with a Shield, that’s Non-Lethal (well, Less than Lethal)

[timber fjord]

Do you happen to know in what folder do i need to put the map, and if the map should be a pak. file?

[marsh lark]

It needs to be a pak file, and it goes here. E:\steam\steamapps\common\Ready Or Not\ReadyOrNot\Content\Paks

though initial disk directory may differ due to you having the game on a different drive

[timber fjord]

Tyy

[bold sky]

how much damage does beanbag to the head do per shot

[marsh lark]

cannot find it on the sheet, simply put a headshot should incapacitate a suspect/civilian

Anywho, you can try to find it yourself on the sheet.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1d89lpFDA9lo_v13iBlnhtuA6DvuUnKfPaeo0d4RBGJ4/edit?gid=1100904397#gid=1100904397

[bold sky]

i mean i cant find it on that sheet which is why i asked

[toxic harness]

wtf youre a mod?

[bold sky]

civ has no health they incap to like anything but beefier suspect on hard mode might withstand one or two shot

[bronze crypt]

What’s this?

[marsh lark]

Yeah

[toxic harness]

Zamn

[marsh lark]

It is a sheet maintained by our fellow sheet man

and as the name suggets it provides you with some tips, mechanics of the game and values for various things such as suspect HP, stress, morale etc.

As well as ammunition penetration value and damage.

And some map information

[marsh lark]

Since yesterday

[bronze crypt]

^^

[clever veldt]

It’d be nice if void would actually do something with the game instead of releasing these goofy ass ads

[toxic harness]

I mean it's crazy to learn that we killed 1 billion people

[languid creek]

Without a community manager they don’t even have someone to pretend they’re listening 🥀

3 maps confirmed for 2026 is all the additional content we have promised right now.

We’ll have S ranked them or done them on hard, played them every way within 2-3 weeks max, then we’ll be right back to where we are

😴

Release a great game on console and then do nothing with it, a bit of a fumble tbh. I’m sure most of the people that bought it have moved on to other games now. I only load it up occasionally for the satisfaction of room clearing bad guys

[toxic harness]

I would say the same as I already moved to COD to do camos and Hotline Miami for another CBQ type game

[reef anvil]

3 maps are paid dlc

[languid creek]

I have the mission pass thing which gets me that one as well. Think it was $20 for the DLCs we have + that one

[reef anvil]

The game needs more mechanics and more features taken from Swat 4.

Also please for the love of fucking god, buff C2

[languid creek]

I completely forgot about hotline Miami I saw it years ago I think I’ll have to play that. There’s a bundle on Xbox right now for the first and second game for $20

[toxic harness]

It's free on PSN for both games on both versions

[languid creek]

We’ve been crying about C2 since the console release and it still sucks

[reef anvil]

We need more discombobulation

Also Ai needs another fine tune

And more behaviour patterns

And just generally more shit to do.

SWAT AI so dumb, the mods gave them half their brain

[marsh lark]

AI overhaul is probably bound to happen again.

It always lacks in some direction

[tacit gull]

I dunno about overhaul, ai's been getting duct taped all over from experience

[languid creek]

Actually turns out it wasn’t the game I was thinking of. Party Hard has a similar vibe you might be interested in.

[toxic harness]

I'll check it out. Does it involve killing Russians while wearing masks from a terrorist organization and is the music also peak?!

[fervent gale]

Does NoCrack impede advancements?

[languid creek]

It’s so similar to hotline Miami that I got the two confused

“In Party Hard, you play as someone who is really tired of the neighbors having loud parties. Instead of calling the police, you decide it’s a better idea to kill everyone – using your faithful knife and the environment. The tactical strategy follows a series of killings at parties through-ought the USA.”

Can’t vouch for the music it’s been awhile but I’m definitely gonna replay it tonight

Art is definitely better imo

[valid raven]

I feel like if you used C4 you’d blow up the entire building

[torpid onyx]

me trying to find the context for this

cos c4 is unrelated to the game (we use c2)

[onyx swift]

What's wrong with C2?

[bronze crypt]

In breaching scenarios you would use breaching tape / linear charge or lock poppers

C2 is overkill and would not be used due to collateral

[bold sky]

from a game and not police cosplaying stand point c2 in this game is pointless now but also no clue how they can buff it

its so underwhelming compared to just creating a gap w breaching shotgun at range then just peek thru it

[bronze crypt]

Even from the police perspective

We need more breaching methods

Like halligans

[bold sky]

breaching in this game is pointless bc theres no real fortification behavior

they can stand like a few feet away from the door when you swing it and they would do that without actively utilizing cover half the time or just not pre emptively spraying the door once its busted

[bronze crypt]

Before they used to run to cover while suppressing you

[bold sky]

thats not any sort of barricade behavior, that basic behavior exist since alpha

threats behind doors can be various but again bc its not a real threat in this game theres no need for breaching

i mean its useful if you want to get rid of tripwires i guess but even in that case breaching shotgun does it infinitely better

breaching shotgun ends up having a solid place in this game meta as a range deployable to create holes in doors to peek thru is the ultimate irony

[solemn patio]

Imagine a knife that you can mount as a bayonet

I want to stab a bunch of people with a pokey stick

[balmy nymph]

heyopeeps, is it me or the game is crashing quite much ?

[marsh lark]

Never had the experience with crashing despite having mods

[void jasper]

Mirrorgun is probably the most underrated

I use it for just about every mission except for one maybe two at most

[valid raven]

Intimidation

[tropic siren]

i mean there IS the occasional chance you nail a suspect with a flying door

[bronze crypt]

Except that specific behaviour has been reduced, neutered even

[bronze crypt]

And this is not the point of breaching anyway

[tropic siren]

correct.

[bronze crypt]

If you wanted to eliminate threats in a closed environment you would simply level it with artillery or air strikes

Or you would put fucking M112 dem blocks

[prime schooner]

I haven’t played the game in ages, but did they fix the issue where sometimes you weren’t able to shoot for a second or two? I think it’s a controller related issue only

[void jasper]

C2 is useful for getting the jump on rooms from two different angles, and it can be used to incapacitate a room of ppl and yeh, the intimidation factor is big, if it doesn’t kill em they’ll surrender
Plus the magician trophy is fun to get with it

[marsh lark]

Honestly never heard of it.

You would need to be a little more specific

[bronze crypt]

you can use lock poppers, tube charges, demo tapes, so many possibilities that does not rely on c2 + c2 is big, bulky and sometimes difficult to handle

[void jasper]

Haven’t seen that, and I’m playing pretty regularly
Not that there isn’t any bugs but that’s not a problem
Just don’t get caught reloading lol

[void jasper]

Yeh, I’m just talking about the video game

[bronze crypt]

Me too

[void jasper]

But hey maybe they will add some of that

Demo tapes?

Cmon

[bronze crypt]

Yes

[void jasper]

As in, adhesive tape that is explosive?
Does it come in a roll?

[bronze crypt]

I believe you have seen the image

[void jasper]

But hey c2 is adhesive, so maybe….

[bronze crypt]

This guy doesn’t believe that breaching tape exists

[void jasper]

Aww

Here’s comes the bullying complaint

[tiny sorrel]

we should be allowed to put C2 on a suspect and throw them into a room

[void jasper]

Trepang 2 lol

[tiny sorrel]

trepang 2 looks so peak if only I had money 💔

[bronze crypt]

https://youtu.be/AVjvrGVotzo?si=I2wrZF_FeGnjeM-d

https://youtube.com/shorts/uux9P8Ay76Y?si=4fhLuMemyCN_4R2D

[void jasper]

It’s fun I have it, still go back to it every so often

Smh

[bronze crypt]

https://youtube.com/shorts/ggoN87KNyhA?si=Qd47CkZV3qLeS2bx

[void jasper]

Fucking YouTube lol

Give it a break chi chi

[bronze crypt]

I love you <3

[void jasper]

Or write a letter to void so they give you ur blow up duct tape

[bronze crypt]

Let’s make out

[void jasper]

First he’s a tactical bro
Then he’s a bottom

[bronze crypt]

They are not mutually exclusive

[void jasper]

Apparently not

[tiny sorrel]

what if we could put c2 on a suspects dih?

[bronze crypt]

Suspihh

[void jasper]

So ANYWAY
I think the mirrorgun is highly underrated and being able to see who/what is inside a room, behind a closed door or around corners is a great great tool for clearing rooms/buildings

I think the one a only map I don’t use it for is elephant
Bc of the time limit and knowing that there aren’t any booby traps means I’ll bring a battering ram probly

[marsh lark]

Mirror gun is a cheat tool

Traps are on elephant hard

[onyx swift]

Break the Cycle

[onyx swift]

It is so worth it, you won’t regret it at all

I wouldn’t mind a Subject 106 kind of outfit, even if RoN has a way different flow to Trepang2 lol

[onyx swift]

Mirrorgun is also why I like C2, if a Suspect is right behind a door, or walking around, BLOW THAT THING

[void jasper]

Mods are cheat tools
Mirrorgun is how the game is meant to be played

[void jasper]

EXACTLY

[onyx swift]

C2 imo is actually underrated

[void jasper]

I knew someone would get it

[onyx swift]

It can clobber Suspects like crazy, and still keep your S Rank

Even if the game says they’re Incapped on the floor, they will get back up later

[void jasper]

Yep

They play dead sometimes

[marsh lark]

Mods are not cheat tools. Realistically mirror gun would not be able to be used on outer doors because it would be super bad if your front door had a space between it and the frame

[void jasper]

There is an achievement for catching it

[onyx swift]

I’ve had various times where C2 was so clutch in cleaning a room out, due to how many Suspects were right behind a door

[void jasper]

Uhhh realistically it would be the best

[onyx swift]

Then they all fall like dominos after the door flattens them

[marsh lark]

C2 is extremely situational

[onyx swift]

If there’s a Suspect in view (with a Mirrorgun), or it sounds like they’re behind the door, perfect situation

[spare depot]

Currently mid way through the game. Should I replay everything but on hard mode.

[unborn echo]

nah

[void jasper]

👍🏼

[onyx swift]

If you want to, just be careful of the differences

Suspects are way worse to deal with on Hard

[spare depot]

Any recommendations about it?

Hard mode.

[onyx swift]

Arrest Suspects ASAP

[unborn echo]

playing on hard is just subjecting yourself to torture, especially without any player teammate

[onyx swift]

They will get up in short time if left unattended (speaking from experience)

Try to assume that each encounter is also your last

I’ve had Suspects aimbot me on a very slight and well-angled lean peak, died in maybe 4 shots at best

And remain as quiet and stealthy as possible

[void jasper]

Use grenades and lots of em
If you even think there’s something behind a corner/door/stairwell
toss a grenade first

[onyx swift]

You do not want all the Suspects to start charging and grouping up for you

It happens on Hard a lot, if you go in Loud for everything

[void jasper]

Don’t give em an inch

[onyx swift]

Suspects also are deadlier in groups, Hard makes them way less responsive to compliance cries and considering surrender

Assume first that if there’s two or more nearby, they won’t surrender

it’s a low chance

(Still yell for compliance, but don’t let yourself get domed by two or more Suspects immediately)

[void jasper]

Very true
On hard one of em usually tries something as soon as u turn ur back

[onyx swift]

And use your Tools like C2 for cases like that in Rooms

A downed, stunned, or uncapped Suspect is one that can’t normally shoot you

Crowd Control is important

Same with using any means you can to avoid exposure

[void jasper]

And remember not to get died
For the love of god don’t do that

[onyx swift]

Flashbangs, Stingers, Launchers, C2, etc

Anything that you can use while remaining in cover

[vocal sphinx]

if i have my flashlight on can suspects see it? dumb question but was wondering for more 'stealth' gameplay

[onyx swift]

Iirc yes

[void jasper]

Yep

Laser too

[vocal sphinx]

like does stealth actually exist in the game can you take suspects down supressed/arrest quietly and other suspects wont know unless its loud?

[unborn echo]

nope, not laser

[onyx swift]

Oh, I thought they didn’t respond to Lasers?

[onyx swift]

only to a certain extent

[void jasper]

Laser is not as noticeable if pointed away

[vocal sphinx]

as in?

[void jasper]

Enemies WILL notice it

[onyx swift]

Near the start of a mission, yeah maybe but afterwards not really

Noise is indeed a mechanic by itself, but usually useless due to the Suspects’ hearing range

But you can still do things like Bashing a Civ to get them down quietly

[unborn echo]

by conventional mean, you cant do stealth in this game, stealth simply just dont exist, however, you can do semi-stealth runs in commander mode, having 2 officers with intimidator equipped, 2 officers with pacifier, and using taser only

[onyx swift]

That way, you aren’t stuck yelling as much and giving away your position

Suppressors also don’t do much on their own, unless the map is super big

But they’re useful if your entire team runs them

If you hear a loud gunshot, that’s an enemy

If you hear a suppressed gunshot, it’s a teammate

[void jasper]

😎👍🏼

[unborn echo]

suppressed guns and whats not have the same noise detection range im pretty sure, only difference is stress gain, having a suppressor halve the stress gain for suspects

[onyx swift]

I think Mindjot employees can have suppressed SMGs though

So be careful on Sinuous Trail

[onyx swift]

oh good to also know, on the stress aspect

[unborn echo]

suppressors dont make your guns completely dead silent in this game but they're not entirely useless either, less stressed suspects means they are more prone to hesitating upon seeing you, and not setting up ambushes, as long as you dont fire in full auto, you'd be better off with a suppressor than a muzzle brake

[spare depot]

Which mission on hard mode is expected to be the most annoying.

[onyx swift]

Greased Palms

[spare depot]

Irritating, stressful, most despised.

[onyx swift]

It’s a community staple

[spare depot]

Isnt that the Post factory?

[onyx swift]

Even before Hard was added

[unborn echo]

all of them, if i have to be completely honest, ANY gunfight could be your last if you're not careful, but in terms of map layouts? definitely greased palms

hide and seek is also largely open area map, but atleast you can actually see the suspects, unlike greased palms

[onyx swift]

I know Hard is fully doable (I’ve done some missions with S on it too), but man do I hate how artificial it is at times

I still remember getting shot and killed within maybe 4 seconds of loading in, for A Lethal Obsession on Hard

[unborn echo]

some as in thank you come again, 23mb per second and lethal obsession?

[onyx swift]

lol you know for sure

[balmy nymph]

when playing in hard difficulty, is gas nades nerfed or they just have almost no AoE ?

[unborn echo]

gerald knows how to shoot thats for sure

[onyx swift]

CS has been universally bad after LSS, when I tried it

[balmy nymph]

what's LSS ?

[unborn echo]

yeah gas is even worse in hard diff, same coverage in all mode, but gas stun every 2 sec in normal and casual, but only stun every 4 sec on hard, which makes it entirely irrelevent unless you plan on using it as a temporary smoke screen

[unborn echo]

los suenos story

[onyx swift]

Loss Sueños Stories (recent biggest update)

Added difficulties and other things

[balmy nymph]

oh thx its been a while since i don't play xD

and ye i noticed gas sucks now, sad :c

[unborn echo]

yep, devs gutted it

[balmy nymph]

but, the new hard difficulty is AWESOME

there are suspects everywhere

[balmy nymph]

it's a messy hell

[unborn echo]

im glad you enjoy it

i dont though

[balmy nymph]

the 2 DLC's

are they worth to buy for more PvE stuff ?

[balmy nymph]

whyyy, the game was too easy with like 3-7 ish

[unborn echo]

if you REALLY wanna, i honestly dont think they're a must have nor necessary, you can also play them through other hosts

[vocal sphinx]

there was a mod that made voicelines more immersive with shouting and real police codes but i cant find it - anyone got a link or know the title?

[onyx swift]

There’s more than that on most missions lol + Hard does stuff like making Suspects able to aimbot you while dashing sideways

[unborn echo]

thats true tbh after playing the game for a while normal/standard difficulty becomes too easy, but hard is TOO hard if you get what i mean

[onyx swift]

And even with the tankiest Armor you could use, it’s easy to die in 5ish shots

There’s just no good balance between the two either

[unborn echo]

its not realism hard or challenging hard, its hard for the sake of being hard, you will MOST likely be dying to bulls all the time, like suspect 360 no scoping you, or shooting at you through 1 pixel gap

[onyx swift]

Difficulty is subjective, and I’d say Standard is easy for myself too

But then Hard is like “can I not be killed after peeking for 0.2s at the beginning”

[unborn echo]

its pretty good if you want a challange, just dont expect fun out of it gameplay wise

[onyx swift]

I once died to a Suspect that shot without facing my direction

[balmy nymph]

nahhh practice makes perfect.

I just dislike that suspects are kinda god in how much they are stunned and they kinda never surrender. So basically hard is a kill mode (or for really sweats xD)

[balmy nymph]

but like, are there new maps or not that many ?

[unborn echo]

that too, suspects are VERY much less likely going to surrender in hard, unless you are close to them

[unborn echo]

3 inividual maps for each dlcs

[balmy nymph]

like the game was at start xD

[unborn echo]

as a casual gamer i find hard very stupid

[onyx swift]

Hard is the one time that I am usually open to using Lethal, especially before Beanbag was fixed since the LSS update

[onyx swift]

As someone who’s also gotten some S Ranks on Hard so far

I agree

It’s a challenge, but it’s not fun to get beamed

Nor die in 3 shots, even if that is realistic in some cases

[balmy nymph]

eyyyy that sounds cool

[unborn echo]

now that we talk about it, i'd say that i find 3 letter triad, a mission from dark water dlc, pretty challenging all things considered, even in casual

3 letter triad is pretty fun to play with friends or some random folks, but playing with swat ais is a bit boring imo

[onyx swift]

3 Letter Triad is insane, if you stay in the main areas instead of flanking/using corridors

Big spaces makes for great Flashbang clears, at least

[balmy nymph]

i usually play without the bots

i tell them to breach and hold, and then i clear

[unborn echo]

10 gazillion dead corners

[balmy nymph]

i wish we had the option like in SWAT 4

to just breach and use flash, no clear

[onyx swift]

Non-Lethal on Hard (barring Launchers, but even then Suspects have been resistant to them a few times) becomes such a slog

[balmy nymph]

or just flash no clear

'cause the "use" command is horrible rn

[unborn echo]

"home invasion" dlc is a bit boring imo, i cant even lie, i thought we would be able to raid conventional houses, not an abandoned building filled with methheads, or a big villa of a rich CEO

[latent crescent]

hard is not hard gng

[latent crescent]

m32a1 flash launcher and that is the easiest S rank u’ll get

[sleek token]

Chat

[onyx swift]

Dorms on Hard is like “I hope you have Flashbangs” because all the Suspects pop out like crazy

[sleek token]

I bought the soundtrack instead of the game

[latent crescent]

this is why the primary flash launcher is the meta

[latent crescent]

reasonable but i turn down the music

[unborn echo]

how did that even happen

[onyx swift]

ok now do it without the OP weapon conveniently released during the difficulties release

[latent crescent]

its an immersion killer

[sleek token]

I didnt mean too

[latent crescent]

music wont be playing when im raiding a house

[latent crescent]

hell no

[onyx swift]

Beanbag before a recent fix on Hard would no-reg sometimes

[sleek token]

I dont know im a tard

[latent crescent]

beanbag shotgun does nothing

[unborn echo]

the only immersive music, in which you cant even turn off, is the one in neon tomb

[onyx swift]

mhm that’s what I thought

[latent crescent]

2.5 seconds before they’re perfectly fine, thats just dumb

[latent crescent]

yeah which im perfectly fine with

[unborn echo]

i also play with music off, idk but its a mood killer for me

[sleek token]

Anyway I dont think im going to pay 44 pound im good

[latent crescent]

its just for super casuals

the people who play just to feel like john wick

[unborn echo]

mr wick

[latent crescent]

not for larpers or immersion junkies

[balmy nymph]

just sprayed a suspect with pepper spray

[latent crescent]

it adds to the tension but its such a killer

[balmy nymph]

my guy walked like 3 meeters, grabed a hostage and executed it

well that was something

[onyx swift]

Tbf, the music usually isn’t there unless there’s a lot of action

[latent crescent]

its a waste of great music really

[onyx swift]

true

Some like the one for Sins of the Father, or Hide and Seek are great if you trigger them

[balmy nymph]

perpper spray is useless when suspects have bandanas on their mouth ? WTFFFF

[onyx swift]

the world’s only pepper spray user

[balmy nymph]

eyyyy i like the PSSSSS sound

[latent crescent]

beanbag shotgun better

[onyx swift]

Beanbag Shotgun my beloved

[latent crescent]

technically a launcher

[onyx swift]

At least when it doesn’t no-reg like 5 times in a row on Hard

[latent crescent]

i just lethal hard bro

S rank hard is such a waste of time no achievement no nothing

then again the launcher actually just makes it a cake walk so imma do that

so i can get two achievements in one

[onyx swift]

You also need to be wary of crossfire with so many Suspects + Hostages

[balmy nymph]

but pepper spray is not a main gun

[onyx swift]

Some Hard runs had Hostages taken so quickly, you’re going to want Stingers or Flashbangs

[latent crescent]

easy fix flash everyone u see no mercy

[latent crescent]

pepperball launcher is complete dogshit in this game

[balmy nymph]

no, i mean the other, the little can

[latent crescent]

taser better

[balmy nymph]

ye but, why is pepper spray so bad :c

[latent crescent]

because game made it bad

[unborn echo]

does not do anything aside from applying debuff to suspects accuracy

in which, at that range, you're still going to get shot anyway

[onyx swift]

yeah

Taser at least can stun

[balmy nymph]

omg wtf xD

[onyx swift]

And often cause a surrender

[balmy nymph]

u go blind with that thing, not a debuff to accuracy xD

hhahaahaha

[unborn echo]

yeah, pepper spray wont even make suspects surrender or anything like that, it just applies a debuff to suspects, and thats about it

[balmy nymph]

😔 what a let down

[unborn echo]

worst part is that it wont even last for hours on end like real life! just a few second of debuff!

[balmy nymph]

i mean technically it should hit us too

[tropic siren]

Ive never actually tried this, but can you breach doors with regular shotguns?

[balmy nymph]

i think u can't. It's not the same ammo

not the muzzle

[tropic siren]

huh. always thought it wouldnt make much of a difference.

[balmy nymph]

it's pretty hard to breach doors. There's a technique breachers are taught

there's a documentary about it, it's pretty cool

[bronze crypt]

You can

[void jasper]

…

[unborn echo]

you cant

you can still destroy wooden doors with a bunch of shots, but on any other doors its impossible

[bronze crypt]

Wooden doors take one shot for me

Hm

[unborn echo]

with regular shotguns, not breach

[bronze crypt]

I am not a moron

I know

[void jasper]

…

[unborn echo]

then clearly you dont know what you're talkinga bout

[bronze crypt]

Literally just did that 10 seconds ago

Could be a mod I have installed

I will have to check

[unborn echo]

just tested it in game, it is in fact, not possible with a single shot to break wooden doors with 12 gauge buckshot or slug from regular shotguns, it takes 5 on an untouched door

5 for both

[bronze crypt]

Read what I wrote above please

If you can, that is

[unborn echo]

i am backing up my earlier statement

[bronze crypt]

There was no need to since I wasn’t countering it, I simply introduced the possibility of it being changed by mods

Anyway

[glass heart]

you can shoot open wooden doors with every weapon

ofcourse breaching shotguns are most reliable, after them regular shotguns, after them everything else

its METAL doors that require a breaching shotgun

[bronze crypt]

They were referring to it in one shot + other doors

[unborn echo]

either way im clarifying my earlier statement, whats you being in this conversation has anything to do with that

[bronze crypt]

Sure

[void jasper]

…

Bust out that youtube vid that’ll show im

😎🔥
Couldn’t help myself:)

[bronze crypt]

crazy

[balmy nymph]

when u pick up a wedge, can u use it again or ño ?

[void jasper]

Sinuous trail on hard is a fun level, not to big not too small

[void jasper]

Yep

[void jasper]

Sins of the father is a fun level for door wedges, and moving them as you go adds to the fun

Like c2, one pack will give us two wedges and you can use em/retrieve em

[balmy nymph]

i always have my bots carrying 1 each

[void jasper]

Yeh I do that too

[unborn echo]

a small fact if you dont know already each loadout slot taken by wedges actually give you 2 uses each

[void jasper]

We just said that smh

[unborn echo]

[void jasper]

This is funny

[void jasper]

I think the tool l use least is the lockpick gun

Lockpick is available by default it’s just slower

[unborn echo]

wow, an actual lockpick gun enjoyer other than me?

oh nvm, you said the LEAST

i read it as the most for some reason

[balmy nymph]

i use it all the time .-.

i wish C2 was like 4 uses per slot tho xD

[void jasper]

I like how different armor grades have different number of slots,
It’s like inventory management in other games
I gotta plan out how to use 13 slots in light armor

I’m using steel armor on hard and I think I see a difference between it and the ceramic

[latent crescent]

no

[latent crescent]

its a good tool

[void jasper]

Like the game says, once it breaks the protection goes way down

[latent crescent]

but like, battering ram

[balmy nymph]

but somebody said yes

[latent crescent]

they’re lying

[balmy nymph]

who should i trust

[void jasper]

You can don’t worry

[latent crescent]

not true

[balmy nymph]

[void jasper]

There’s one way to find out, right?

Just do it

[balmy nymph]

i got tilted and closed the game

ill check tomorrow c:

i was about to finish a match

and there was a suspect, camping a door, i shot, and he shot.

We both died tho

[void jasper]

I think the trade off with steel armor is the blurred screen last longer making it hard to fire back but the upside is it lasts longer, so the insta kill is delayed for a few skirmishes

[balmy nymph]

i only use steel

blurry thingy on the sides = meme

thing is, i clear all rooms on my own or i go first if not on my own.

So i'm usually pretty beaten up at the end

but it's more fun

btw

can we do this ? #📩feedback-reports-channel message

or we can't ?

[wind gyro]

wdym can we do this

[chilly thorn]

I could see it being added, It could probably be useful since gas takes time to fill the room

[pliant frost]

Breaching shotgun or ram

[balmy nymph]

how

you can't tell them to deploy flash and not go in

[chilly thorn]

I really want an option to have swat ai not fire or yell at suspects

I hate when i command them to flashbang a door and they just fucking shoot the guy because they are peaking in

[balmy nymph]

ye, they stand too close to the door xD

maybe a peak and flash option

[wind gyro]

wdym how

[chilly thorn]

Can we get a command to hold your fire lol

[wind gyro]

im asking you what do you mean by can we do this

[balmy nymph]

oh, read the thingy then xD

click on the blue text

[void jasper]

Use “clear with leader” it’s close enough

[balmy nymph]

it will take u to the message i mean

[chilly thorn]

also has anyone noticed that when you tell a swat person to deploy a throwable outside of a stack up the grenade is in like low fps

[balmy nymph]

no, i have to use the gadget

[wind gyro]

i saw it

[balmy nymph]

i only carry ammo and taser

[void jasper]

Which one

[chilly thorn]

Gas is my favorite grenade because funny sounds

[balmy nymph]

with the leader thingy i need to use the nades

[void jasper]

I gotcha

[chilly thorn]

Can they just remove flashbang traps they do completely nothing to you lol

[balmy nymph]

me doesnt want to use the nades, i want the bots to. And yet, don't push

[balmy nymph]

they reduce points. Technically if it wasn't a flash, mission over

[wind gyro]

just leave all the suggestions in #📩feedback-reports-channel

this isnt a place where they will read them

[chilly thorn]

sometimes bots decide to throw the grenade in the worst possible area ever or they just fucking phase through the map T~T

[void jasper]

I usually bring three grenades
Usually stingers

[balmy nymph]

yes, true. But still, it's better than me sacrificing 6 mags

[chilly thorn]

I mean I only really need 2 mags to complete a mission lol

[balmy nymph]

i like the flash noise c: but i know stinger is better

[chilly thorn]

most my points go into gas grenades and wedge

[balmy nymph]

i go ful auto, gun blazing, it's more fun than 2 taping

[chilly thorn]

if im running an SMG I usually take 4 mags since some of them are a bullet hose on full auto

[balmy nymph]

i use the smg with 40 ammo not sure the name

[chilly thorn]

P90?

[balmy nymph]

i only use that smg or the one with 50

[balmy nymph]

that has 50

[chilly thorn]

which has 40 the uhhhh god what was it called

[balmy nymph]

dunno

[chilly thorn]

the one with the big stick mag?

[wind gyro]

the p90 is a pea shooter

[balmy nymph]

yes

[balmy nymph]

i like full auto gameplay

[chilly thorn]

you could call any gun a pea shooter since all weapons in this game 2 shot basically dude

[void jasper]

More often than not I stick to semi auto

[balmy nymph]

sad to hear that

[chilly thorn]

Semi Auto on Rifles and Full auto on smgs is my strat

[balmy nymph]

it's so cool to BRRRRRRR into a guy that just aimed at u

[wind gyro]

the p90 in body shoots like airsoft bullets

[void jasper]

I always try to pick my shots

[chilly thorn]

I can put somebody down in 2 shots to the arm with it

[balmy nymph]

wat

[wind gyro]

ur p90 is different

[chilly thorn]

Yeah just gotta hit the right spots and not the hands

[wind gyro]

im shooting the body

[chilly thorn]

upper shoulder is basically an instant kill for most weapons

[wind gyro]

im just grabbing the thing that one shots in body and going full auto with it

[balmy nymph]

i sometimes accidently hit headshots 'cause the recoil xD

still profit tho

[chilly thorn]

I keep accidently shooting people in the neck 💔

like im sorry bro your death was supposed to be quick

[balmy nymph]

it wasnt

[chilly thorn]

never aim for like the lower torso it never does like anything for me

always upper body or the bleedy spots

[balmy nymph]

i love the new screams devs added when suspects get shot and not killed xD

since i use hollow, they kinda never die

i wish they faked more deaths tho

[chilly thorn]

Those have been in the game for a while

the VA is pretty good

most the time lol

[void jasper]

…

The other night I was playing without my headphones, just turning up the volume cause I like the sfx
My wife was laughing at the stuff ppl say in the game
When I yell for compliance: “get ur fuckin hands up!”
Gangbanger says: “blow me!”

… cracked her up

[chilly thorn]

I love some of the suspect dialouge

"WE ARE GOING TO CUT OFF YOUR FUCKING BALLS!"

[void jasper]

I like to think void interactive held a casting audition for all of it lol
Guy walks into audition and says “Hi! I’m here from Brixley Talent Service, im auditioning for…ah, ‘pissed of gangbanger #3. Ahem.”
…”WE GONNA CUT CHU FUCKING BALLLS OFF AHHHH.”
…annnnd, scene.

[chilly thorn]

How awkward must it been for the voice actors too record those fucking moaning sounds for the bleeding lol

[void jasper]

Yes lol

“I’m auditioning for….um, ‘Dying methhead #1, ahem”

Bleeegghh. Ughhhhg blehblelhblehugu… (fart noise)

[chilly thorn]

"we need you to drink a bunch of water and just start gurgling into the mic for 30 seconds please"

[void jasper]

“More feeling…”

Director says

[chilly thorn]

Director looks at you directly in the eyes and just says "Moan Louder"

[void jasper]

lol

[chilly thorn]

Zack Bower is just looking at you like fletcher from whiplash

[void jasper]

“Im not believing ur a dying methhead”

[chilly thorn]

They even got incap voicelines for judge that don't even play in game, The devs just wanted the sounds for the fuck of it I guess lol

[void jasper]

“I ain’t goin back ta jail”

[chilly thorn]

what did they tell the methhoue dudes with the raspy fucked up voices lol

"Come in on a day when your sick please"

[void jasper]

No those are actors, so dedicated to their craft,
That they went out and scored meth before the audition just to make it sound good

lol

[chilly thorn]

The actors actually died to record the death voicelines! Rest In Peace!

[void jasper]

Honor them, yes…..

Dying crackhead #1, and his cousin, Dying methhead #1
We will remember you

[chilly thorn]

Don't forget Very Loud Russian Screamer Man #2

[void jasper]

Yes of course I apologize,

Russian Screaming Man #2….
we will remember you…

[wraith lance]

On Hide and Seek ?

[void jasper]

My top favs are
Sinuous trail on hard
Ides of march
Greased palms
Sins of the father

[chilly thorn]

In terms of waht?

[void jasper]

Honorable mention to:
Relapse
Leviathan

[wraith lance]

Like : voice acting ?

[void jasper]

In terms of favorites

[chilly thorn]

Greased palms is one of your favorite maps.

Honestly fuck yeah I respect it

[void jasper]

Level stuff not the voice acting lol

[chilly thorn]

in terms of fun?

[void jasper]

Greased palms has replay value

[chilly thorn]

greased palms is better then relapse because its not boring as fuck

[wraith lance]

Yeaaaaah, Relapse really got your nerves

[void jasper]

Relapse is one of the biggest maps that’s why I like it

[chilly thorn]

Relapse just sucks lol

even the music is boring

[void jasper]

I like that it has two buildings with multiple floors

[chilly thorn]

I like the fact that relapse is kinda scary just from being a hospital but thats about it

[void jasper]

lol

I hate hospitals too

Remember, the bad guys dress in scrubs too

[wraith lance]

But no enough people to cover it

5 peps dangit
For such an environement, it's like 10 guys minimum

[chilly thorn]

They have seperate models than civvies, making it only work on like the first two playthroughs (not to mention their pistols are literally visible on their hip)

[chilly thorn]

I honestly think it was the opposite the map needs more suspects.

[wraith lance]

More suspects ? Jee' they're already 20 of them inside

[chilly thorn]

They are all so seperated

you'll get like 3 suspects per floor

[wraith lance]

Which makes almist 9 suspects in the first building
And like 8 for the second

[fallen zealot]

Anyone know when there acc gonna fix the trophy bugs?

[wraith lance]

ACC ?

[void jasper]

Which ones

[fallen zealot]

House to home and getting your sea legs on console

[void jasper]

I’m curious bc I don’t always pay attention to which trophy’s I get most I get on accident

On console?

Damn

[spare depot]

They set off their own traps yet still survives.....

[void jasper]

I like using c2 on doors I know are trapped
I usually move away a blow it as im pushing into another area

Maybe there’s a faster way to command both teams
Like if the L1 and R1 were separated for red/blue
and the item menus could be moved to another
I’m on controller on console so my options are just that

[void jasper]

Or maybe a hold down option for door kicking

Or a quick toss for grenades, instead of needing to arm them up, then throwing em

Hope the devs are taking notes right now im givin em thousands of hours in quality control on a platter:))))

…

[near viper]

will they ever fix sleeper agent 🙁

[bleak girder]

cops vs robbers gmode?

5v5

[bronze crypt]

😭

[wind gyro]

just go play cs atp

[bronze crypt]

Crazyy

[wind gyro]

AND cs is free

but none the less any pvp would be cool to see if done well

[latent crescent]

i got fool me once and fool me twice by accident

piss easy achievements

[latent crescent]

can u have traps on double doors?

[bronze crypt]

I think so, possibly

[marsh lark]

No

Traps can never be present on double doors

At least I never had that happen and I remember reading on RoN sheet that there can't be

[bronze crypt]

I eat my words then

[vague locust]

are there double doors that only open one of the doors? no doubt a trap on those

[karmic birch]

if switching to gas and having a shield gets me S rank first try im going to crash out

[sterile hill]

does anyone wanna smash this meldonin achieve

[bronze sequoia]

I was getting shot by a guy who’s gun wasn’t even pointing at me, it was pointing down and to my left, anyone else have this happen?

[torpid onyx]

yes it's a frequent issue

they especially like to do it when running at full sprint

sometimes they shoot you without even having their gun at the ready

[tardy light]

This ai modded or not is dog shit

I just had blue team stack on the door above at the church of vines to clear basement with red team from the door outside, as im clearing i see blue team cassualy walking down the stairs to secure a knife and walk back to the door theyre supposed to be stacked on

Mind you red team was standing on the evidence

[karmic birch]

dont forget the ai not helping you while being shot at when theyre right next to you aswell

[native rune]

The problem with ai mods is that they can’t address the core of what makes the team ai problematic, all mods can do is make the squad mates overclocked and take less damage, but they will still perform anything through their same failed logic and mechanics

[cloud tree]

Why are they taking so long to fix the game

[errant bane]

ain’t played in a while but slugs don’t penetrate the armor on elephant/secret service guys right

[sullen crane]

When going for the dev watch are you supposed to beat the level on a certain grade?

[jolly verge]

Elephant all suspects wear level 4 armor, some on Sins of the Father and Leviathan, on Neon Tomb and Lawmaker only 1 suspect have it

[jolly verge]

Nope, just no KIA and no resigns

[sullen crane]

Oh no wonder I didn’t get it

I was so confused

[bronze crypt]

Interesting, I did not know that

[errant bane]

ight im just gonna blow limbs off with buckshot then

[pine pollen]

Is this game still as brutal and as vulgar as it used to be?

[bronze crypt]

Imo it didn’t change that much so yeah

And you can always use mods

[pine pollen]

People say if I install mods, I can't play with my friends on console tho

[bronze crypt]

That is true

Well you can play without

[pine pollen]

And it sucks seeing people mad about the censorship on this game, especially in Steam

Every single community post is filled with demands of VOID to address the issue.

[bronze crypt]

I get that

[fickle pasture]

They should address the issue of the damn bullets stuck in mid air that ruins the damn “immersion” of this game

[pine pollen]

Wait what, aren't bullets hitscan?

[fickle pasture]

Hitscan my ahh they are stuck in midair for me and other players the bullet casing since I’m on console and you pc guys get to live like royalty with your mods and good graphics us console players suffer💔💔

Atleast fix the bugs in-game if they don’t wanna add any new content they edged me with that new post yesterday had my dumbass thinking they were going to cook

[bronze crypt]

A👍💪

[torpid onyx]

the bullets that you shoot at people are hitscan, the casings which eject from the gun arnt and get stuck frozen in the air frequently

i also cant remember if I hear the clinks of casings hitting the floor any more or not because of the fact the casings are bugged

[bronze crypt]

Really? I thought they were simulated

[torpid onyx]

simulated?

[bronze crypt]

Not “simulated”, but I did not think they were using hitscan

I do not have the proper terminology but I’m sure you can grasp the concept

[torpid onyx]

projectiles

[bronze crypt]

Wow, big difference

[torpid onyx]

I'm pretty sure some stuff like beanbags or pepperballs are projectiles but standard bullets are hitscan

[bronze crypt]

That makes sense

I’m asking about the projectiles because I could have sworn they advertised a decently thorough ballistics system at some point but it might be my memory playing tricks on me

[torpid onyx]

well the game does have certain types of armour and the bullets respond differant to the armour that they hit and the penetration system is there and bullets actually come out of the muzzle of your gun not where your character is pointed etc

it's better then some games

[bronze crypt]

That for sure

[faint creek]

Dark water or home invasion ?

[unborn echo]

home water

[bronze crypt]

Dark water has cooler levels

Though home invasion has the lawmaker map which is nice

[faint creek]

Okay

I liked Twisted nerve and the hospital what would You think is better ?

[unborn echo]

dark water is definitely better, tho i still dont understand why would a local swat team be allowed to raid an oil rig

[bronze crypt]

That is beyond everyone

Well actually..

If I may get into a bit of lore here

[unborn echo]

the hospital, its more fun as a level

[timber urchin]

I'm getting a vr soon and thought how cool it would be if ron had vr

[bronze crypt]

There isn’t actually much lore

Hmm, this is tough

I can’t really justify it

[faint creek]

I mean if I liked those missions What would fit me best between the 2 dlc

[bronze crypt]

The coast guard would be deployed via a DSF unit, but even then they would probably use NAVSPEC people

[bronze crypt]

Probably home invasion then?

Hard to tell

[unborn echo]

there is a bit of lore, coast guard collaborated with lspd, thus why we get to raid something on the sea

[bronze crypt]

That I do know but I doubt that would happen IRL

[faint creek]

Whats the difference ? Between the 2 ? I don’t really like super large areas without big immersion

[bronze crypt]

I initially wanted to talk about the USIA contact but then I realised that’s 3 Letter Triad, not Leviathan

[karmic birch]

the most unique mission has to be the yacht i think

[bronze crypt]

Go for Dark Water imo

[faint creek]

Why

[bronze crypt]

It’s more unique

And engaging on the rig is a very interesting experience

[karmic birch]

watch a playthrough of all the dlc and see which one speaks to you

[unborn echo]

then i'd say home invasion

dark water is overall cooler

but the maps are so infinitely bigger and more complex

[faint creek]

Is there maps with great immersion ? Like twisted nerve ? In the two dlc

[karmic birch]

rust belt, neon tomb,hide n seek and elephant

[faint creek]

Rust belt is great

I am actually doing the only revolver quest with a friend

[unborn echo]

all map are good on their own tbh

[bronze crypt]

you have to hand it to void, all maps are good

so immersion is not lost

[unborn echo]

just play the one with your favorie theme

[bronze crypt]

^

[faint creek]

Yeah -but for me- twisted nerve is the goat of immersion, it really feel like a swat intervention

[bronze crypt]

play the one that you like the most

[faint creek]

I wzs talking about dlc

[bronze crypt]

just look at pictures and if you find something that floats your boat, pick it

[faint creek]

I Will

[unborn echo]

same thing, they are all good for their designed theme

[marsh lark]

Because SWAT received the COAST training

And you are talking about the D squad which by the records has 0 civilian cassaulty missions even on active shooter scenarios

At that point if you truly have an ace in the team, then why not use them on the highest priorities.

[bronze crypt]

i mean, they did receive that trainig but why wait for SWAT when you can deploy DSF or NAVSPEC elements if you can

SWAT could work as a support element, sure, but even that is a stretch

then again, given that D platoon went against SMU guys that outnumbered them 1:3, an oil rig operation is nothing but a walk in the park

lore-wise it could be a test for Judge by USIA people

[marsh lark]

I think the premise is that D platoon simply has the best record out of all specialized tactical departments even the federal ones

and considering their equipment is kind of unlimited if you look at their weaponry

It just looks like their squad has like the most budget in the whole department 💀

[bronze crypt]

i mean supporter edition had HRT shit so it could be that some people there have ties with HRT (or FISA's special unit or whatever it's called in game)

[marsh lark]

But honestly. While RoN is set in LAPD SWAT style, it would kind of be shame if they did not show anything besides the city. The game is supposed to show the horrors of what SWAT officers have to deal with, and I am pretty sure that also means federal ones or other SRT's around the country, hence the missions

[bronze crypt]

ah 100%

totally

[marsh lark]

I am not sure how exactly SWAT teams in the US deal with terrorists

[bronze crypt]

well they dont really have terrorists

[marsh lark]

Terrorist cells.

[bronze crypt]

active shooters, but LE (SWAT) responds often

[bronze crypt]

HRT/CIRG

in that case

and maybe DHS support too

[marsh lark]

My country's SWAT team is considered para military, so they are responsible for any and all SWAT calls. Be it a bunch of people with knives, guns, or full on terrorist organizations

[bronze crypt]

i mean, they could probably deploy CAG since i believe it has jurisdiction to operate on domestic soil if such events are to occur

[bronze crypt]

where are you from, if i may ask?

[marsh lark]

Czech Republic

[bronze crypt]

ah, very nice

[twilit mulch]

or when it comes to busting into schools thinking the frightened students and professors are paid actors part of an exercise

[bronze crypt]

what

[twilit mulch]

yup, Czech police tactical unit did that last week 😂

[marsh lark]

We do have more tactical units

[twilit mulch]

https://english.radio.cz/police-drill-varnsdorf-ends-embarrassment-after-officers-raid-wrong-school-8866187

[marsh lark]

Nevertheless I am going to look into that

[bronze crypt]

oh my god haha

[marsh lark]

They had a training there, but they accidently had the wrong school, I suppose they were not far away from each other hence why that happened

But eh, we're getting slightly off topic

[unborn echo]

its more so that why would they do that, aside from you know, for lore convenience, coast guards exist for a reason

[marsh lark]

Well, I did put some other reasons under there.

[fallen zealot]

Fair there’s a trophy in the dlc list which you get for doing all the trophies in that list but it just doesn’t pop

[fallen zealot]

Yhyh for me ps5

[remote tiger]

Dear RoN Development Team:

PLEASE ADD THE M16A1-A2 PLEAAAAAAAAAAAASE.

[marsh lark]

I know a lot of people have already pointed that out, and various bug reports were made about the trophies not working properly. Generally the only advice someone can give you is to do whatever the trophy requires again. Preferably from the top to bottom

[fallen zealot]

I already did that and it still didn’t pop and other people did it and didn’t work for them either

[marsh lark]

I am pretty sure that it is on their to-do list eventually. But trophies or achievements are not the highest priority when it comes to things. As you can see there are sometimes weird crashes, evidence bugging out, suspects being unable to be arrested unless being looked at from a specific angle. Also AI being in a weird position, though mainly that goes for SWAT AI.

And the graphical issues.

Not saying that it will never get fixed, but the issues I have listed will definitely be more prioritized than an achievement not working properly.

The weird part is that for some people it works, for some it doesn't.

[slim verge]

How to make bushes and windows transparent? Cuz npc see us thru it while we dont

[marsh lark]

You can't. Probably by doing something in the .ini file for the game, but that will screw your whole graphics over. In any case you can see through windows and you may see through bushes. Though my advice is that if you cannot see properly, you should choose another entry point

[covert thicket]

may i just say how awfull the steam announcement page of RON is? i literally have 80% of the people spamming in there blocked

[latent crescent]

there are some police forces that can deal with water

for example the metropolitan police has a specialised force for the river thames, so im guessing its similar to that

[bronze crypt]

That’s true, but I would argue it’s a slightly different case

[void jasper]

Anyone doing anything cool for Halloween?🎃

[marsh lark]

nah, not really

[void jasper]

Yeh my brother in law lives in Florida a lot of the local cops have patrol boats

[latent crescent]

yeah

[bronze crypt]

Make sense for the area but that’s not quite a maritime unit

[latent crescent]

battlefield hardline moment

[void jasper]

Maybe Ron will make a boat map lol

[latent crescent]

raiding a cruise ship hijacked by pirates

[bronze crypt]

Maybe RoN will make anything, anything atp

[bronze crypt]

That would be nice

[latent crescent]

anything BUT a damn embassy map bro

[void jasper]

You got a video to back that up ?

Jk 🙂

I still think a street riot map would be good, like a union protest that escalates into violence and the cops call in swat to help put down the rioters
More points for nonlethal arrests and it could spice things up by having the protesters arm themselves after a certain time limit, like if they broke into a nearby pawnshop and grabbed the weapons

[bronze crypt]

That would work really well

[void jasper]

I’m gonna email that to void maybe they’ll give me a job

[marsh lark]

You know what deals with protests?

The big ass trucks with high powered hoses on top

Or the trucks with extreme high pitched noises

[bronze crypt]

Unless you have armed agitators

[void jasper]

Yeh maybe they’ll give you points for non lethal

[bronze crypt]

In which case SWAT would be deployed

Could fit within the lore

[void jasper]

…

Cool

[fickle pasture]

Damn why did it get removed🤣

[marsh lark]

Take a guess

[fickle pasture]

So your the reason why there’s no new content on console💔

[marsh lark]

Keep inapropriate comments to yourself

[fickle pasture]

Bro I’m begging you release something🙏🏿🙏🏿🙏🏿

[marsh lark]

When something will be close to being released, there will be a proper announcement made about it

[fickle pasture]

How long will it take you guys to fix the bullet casing in mid air issue?

Or any like maps or content bro anything pls it can’t be that time consuming

[void jasper]

lol
That one ain’t going anywhere

[jolly verge]

They already fixed that on dev build

[fickle pasture]

Not on console gng you pc dudes live like royalty while us console players are the peasants of the kingdom😭💔

[marsh lark]

dev build

[jolly verge]

It's console exlusive bug

It's already fixed, but they did not release it yet

[void jasper]

Peasants??!?

[fickle pasture]

We don’t have any more like you guys and we censored gng

Mods*

[void jasper]

PEASANTS??!!?

…then again, I have been wearing the same shorts and tshirt for the last three days

[marsh lark]

Mods will not be available for console because there is nothing void can do. The engine chosen was not for consoles in mind.

Unreal Engine simply does not allow it

[fickle pasture]

Then atleast add some cosmetics bro come on now you leaving us hanging edging me with that new vid you guys put out yesterday

[marsh lark]

The vid yesterday is simply statistics from what players managed to do this year

data

[fickle pasture]

That comment on insta with the fridge meme had me laughing my ahh off

[marsh lark]

Console and PC share versions. So any content added will be for both platforms

[fickle pasture]

Ok could you give me a yes or no Answer will any new content come out in the next few weeks??

Just a yes or no

[marsh lark]

I am a moderator, I am not a developer

[edgy salmon]

I am releasing the new content right now dont worry

What do you want

new guns or maps

[marsh lark]

However a DLC is supposed to be planned for Q1 of 2026

[fickle pasture]

Bro leave me alone I’m just curious😂

[void jasper]

lol

[edgy salmon]

Jokes aside I reccomend asking the community manager such questions

They will know better

[fickle pasture]

Who may that be?

[void jasper]

Smh

[edgy salmon]

Last one got banned and fired I dont know if there has been a new one

[void jasper]

lol

[fickle pasture]

I just joined the damn discord today bro😂

[jolly verge]

None atm

[void jasper]

Don’t tell him that

[marsh lark]

We currently do not have a community manager due to whatever happened before.

[fickle pasture]

Ok I’ll be the new manger

[void jasper]

Ok

WHEN IS THE NEW DLC COMING??!??

[edgy salmon]

When new update

[void jasper]

Pleeeeeease

[edgy salmon]

sadge

[fickle pasture]

Noooooo

Is that why you guys aren’t releasing any content

[marsh lark]

No

Content is planned, there is just no clear communication right now as we were used to since community manager is made for that

[void jasper]

But you’re the moderator ur supposed to know

Yeh you’ll end up like the last guy

[fickle pasture]

I just joined the server today😂

[void jasper]

Yeh no shit

[reef anvil]

maybe in hindsight I shouldn't of been room clearing with modded in frag grenades lmao

[void jasper]

This guy sounds familiar

[edgy salmon]

Thats the right way of doing it

[reef anvil]

I have tossed 2 frags into 2 rooms full of civvies. my Swat team proceeded to make me have a date with god

[edgy salmon]

entry team to toc we did a little oopsie over

[reef anvil]

the room had enemy combatants (the pristine placed gun not destroyed by the grenade)

[edgy salmon]

Spetnaz rp is strong with this one

[fickle pasture]

Put those frags up the hole I just want content😞😞😞😞

[reef anvil]

spetznax? nah bro, this is the USMC. We clown in this mf

[fickle pasture]

I’ve seen guys try spetznatz outfits on console they had me cracking

We haven’t got much🥲

[reef anvil]

might do FSB and USMC joint shit again if the USMC mod still works

[edgy salmon]

CTSFO mod is pretty good as well

[fickle pasture]

Try making one on console🤣

Then you’ll know what it’s like to sufferrrr

[edgy salmon]

Yeah I know I played the game yesterday without mods so I could play coop and holyy there is so little options

[fickle pasture]

Yeah you guys live like royalty we are peasants

[edgy salmon]

If you have dlcs you get a bit more options at least

[fickle pasture]

Can’t believe there’s still no manger😭 I thought the news was old

[fickle pasture]

I do but the outfits are not the best maybe the Atlas shirt and helmets that’s it

[edgy salmon]

Fallout 4 has mods on console so its not impossible

I mean mod manager

[fickle pasture]

Yeah but the moderator who was on here squashed the hopes of it coming

Like how I got turned into squash by the damn Yemeni in neon tomb

[edgy salmon]

Ik they are a pain if you miss a single shoot

If you miss the head and hit their bomb vest

[fickle pasture]

They fight the best out of all the suspects

The cartel sicarios come in second

That mission in home invasion had me thinking of deleting the game

But I pushed through 19 try’s later

[edgy salmon]

Cartels are using modified m4s and shit they are armed better than normal cops 😭

[fickle pasture]

Real

Hope they can add some FISA content or HRT to console

I really like them

[void jasper]

Yeah and in the game it’s worse lol

😎

I’m liking the map Leviathan more and more, it’s got multiple levels and I love how enemies can shoot through floors grates if they spot you from above or below

[bronze crypt]

FISA and HRT is the same thing

[bronze crypt]

what was really challenging (in a good way) is that AI seems to work well on the rig, so confrontations and gunfights are really fun

[torpid onyx]

leviathan is fuckin annoying

[bronze crypt]

it was cool

[void jasper]

Jeez lol

He ain’t THAT bad
he’s funny sometimes at least

I think I played it more than ides of march already, way way more than that one but the game is still saying ides of march is my favorite in the stats

Maybe bc it doesn’t count it if I die and don’t complete the objectives?

[reef anvil]

Map is x favourite
In reality spamming replay because I keep fucking dying

[void jasper]

Yeh I must have restarted it hundreds of times, I spectate my team after dying cause the music gets good RIIIIGHT after I get killed

[fickle pasture]

Ideals of March?!

That ain’t shit

Try hide and seek solo s tier

Finished it today with no ammo in both guns

Took the soul out of me

Just so I can reacquire the fisa lb vest

[chilly thorn]

They made the music fit the situation much more in one of the patches

they even made a new song for ides of march

[latent crescent]

did elephant hard S rank solo (not true solo, had ai swat collect evidence in the end)

ezzzzz

[toxic harness]

I did a true solo S rank on Elephant on a college PS5

Beanbag Shotgun + True Solo

I feel useless with a beanbag shotgun when I can do lethal runs just fine

[uncut widget]

Liar spotted. Evidence right now!!!

[toxic harness]

If so, I would expose the logo of my college. I value my privacy more than anything

[toxic harness]

nvm was able to censor it fine. Dms.

[latent crescent]

true solo is just collect the shit urself

[toxic harness]

Did you see?

Or is he incapacitated

[hearty mirage]

Does matchmaking not work except for worldwide?

[jade sparrow]

My AI officer just died on Spider cause he decided to push the big room in the middle where all the suspects are, when my order was actually to close the door to that room............

[latent crescent]

skill issue get better gng

[severe shell]

does an officers years in force even change anything?

[floral peak]

No i think

[bold sky]

its so hilarious that every time someone ask to grind s its just maid simulator

no wonder why this game attracts all sort of weebs

[marsh lark]

what

[bold sky]

dont what me this game if you play it according to the rule is just cleaning the trash dropped by anything you kill

[unborn echo]

S rank was never a requirement to play the game btw

[bold sky]

not even kill actually i would play less lethal a bit more if it doesnt drop maidwork

[unborn echo]

you can vote to end the mission without collecting everything btw

[bold sky]

? i mean sure but considering how it exist as an incentive theres obviously gonna be people asking to do it and im not gonna spoil their fun

people who grind s are like 10 hours in getting used to the game

im not gonna tell them holy crap this sucks when they obviously are enjoying it

[unborn echo]

i still dont get what your point is? let others who BOUGHT the game enjoy how they want to?