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[toxic harness]

I lowkey want a Lugar

[austere rain]

Dang I didn’t even think of that

A collectors wet dream

[chilly thorn]

Entire countries gone to shit tbh, if you think cali is bad try living in fucking new york.

[austere rain]

I visited nyc one time and I’m never going back

[chilly thorn]

even though I live in california I gotta thank god I didn't end up in new york

[toxic harness]

Lmao, but the pizza tho

Hell you may see Spiderman or Randy at a corner

[chilly thorn]

Pizza is better homemade

if your good that is

[toxic harness]

If I do live alone or with a homie, I'll def cook Pizza

[austere rain]

Not with my cooking

[chilly thorn]

Tragic

[toxic harness]

Hella tragic

[austere rain]

I mean does Digiorno count as home cooked?

[chilly thorn]

no

[austere rain]

Well I never tried actually making pizza from scratch, but I don’t think it’s even that difficult

[chilly thorn]

Depends on what type of pizza your making

but its pretty simple each way tbh.

[austere rain]

I remember I made it one time in one of my culinary classes I took way back in middle school, but that was so long I barely remember how I made it

[toxic harness]

I had twice, it was fine and we made it at least good enough

[chilly thorn]

yeah but as I was saying new york is really bad

[torpid onyx]

mp5 platform, mp7 and hk416 platform

[chilly thorn]

BOOORIINNGGG

[torpid onyx]

literally like just hk as a brand I want all of them

[austere rain]

Have some imagination

[torpid onyx]

no

[austere rain]

What about mp40

[torpid onyx]

do you want a "slightly" more imaginative AR like the g36 platform

[chilly thorn]

Mg42, STG-44, and a 08/18 Maxim SMG :3

[wraith gale]

what about the fortnite lever action platform

[austere rain]

What do you get when a g36 and a m4 have a baby? A 416

[torpid onyx]

the hk416 is essentially just 96% AR15

[austere rain]

But it has the operating system of a g36

[chilly thorn]

I only base guns off of looks so... Ump45 > Mp5

thats probably why I love ww1 and ww2 guns so much

they are just neat

[toxic harness]

Too bad wood could morph if under extreme conditions, but they look nice if you balance them

[chilly thorn]

yeah but who gives a shit if its not practical, it looks cool.

[toxic harness]

That's why AK looks the best cuz wood

[chilly thorn]

AK isn't even the best russian rifle

that has to go to the mosin

[austere rain]

this is because back then there was not a "standard" way of doing it, so there was so much uniqueness and variation. Nowadays most guns are just AR and AK copies more or less

[chilly thorn]

I think the best guns came out of the 60s-Early90s era

Looks wise

Like just look at the 44 Automag and tell me that thing isn't fucking sick

[austere rain]

"i dont want no teenage queen, I just want my m14"

[wraith gale]

sniper or not

[chilly thorn]

I've developed the biggest hatred of modernized ak's, I don't care if they are good or whatever they look SO LAME

ugh its so basic

[austere rain]

the coolest looking guns are revolvers in my op, something about them tickles my brain

[chilly thorn]

Revolvers are neat

I like the old break-action revolvers A LOT

visually I don't fucking own one lol

[toxic harness]

Especially when you can spin them. Single Action is 100% doable but Double Action does have a heavy trigger so maybe

[austere rain]

scholfield FTW

[chilly thorn]

Taurus Judge is a cool revolver as well

[toxic harness]

But god dammit I wanna twirl a Deagle and feel like I have the power at the palm of my hands, idc if it's fucking impractical

[chilly thorn]

Automag 44 > Deagle

[austere rain]

deagles are grossly overrated

hollywoods fault in my op

[chilly thorn]

Deagles are fucking sick looking

[austere rain]

the only good thing about them

i gues rule of cool takes over here

[chilly thorn]

Well yeah, but again weapons are only rated based on looks for me

like why the fuck are you buying a 50 AE pistol to be practical as well lol

[toxic harness]

But spinning a deagle is cool

[austere rain]

it is until you accidently pull the trigger and get a 50AE size hole in ur chest

[chilly thorn]

ready or not should add a P320 that kills you when you put it in the holster

[austere rain]

technically we have the p320 raider thingy

[toxic harness]

Raider x P320 exists

[austere rain]

i never fucking use that thing

[toxic harness]

I do from time to time

[chilly thorn]

its pretty fun, but its really bad.

[austere rain]

they should have just given us the pistol variant, because SWAT never uses those chassie abominations

[chilly thorn]

Give us a 90s glock 17

the old ones look so rough I love it

[toxic harness]

It's there cuz of a collab

And it was there before a wingman being killed by one

[chilly thorn]

We need more games with guns used in south america

like brazillian police are fucking crazy with their weapon lol

[toxic harness]

I wanted to use that one gun that has layers upon layers of ballistic glass as they supposed to cover the head and chest

[austere rain]

they use whatsever around

[toxic harness]

Shi looks like a nerf gun with those shield scopes

[austere rain]

i remember kentucky ballistics used one of those

[chilly thorn]

The famae saf is pretty cool looking smg

It looks really flimsy but its kinda neat looking

[austere rain]

never heard of tha one

[chilly thorn]

has that old fasioned vibe I like

Its the SMG from max payne 3

[austere rain]

if ur looking for old fashion smg then old school tommy gun with drum mag is as classic as smg's get

[chilly thorn]

not true

[toxic harness]

Military style or 1920's Style?

[austere rain]

it set the standard ofc there was ones before that

i also like the grease gun

[chilly thorn]

Berretta M1918 is older, thus classicer

[toxic harness]

Greased Palms?!

[austere rain]

literally a tube that spits bullets

[toxic harness]

But cheaper than Tommy

[chilly thorn]

Greased gun is very visually pleasing for some reason

[torpid onyx]

Owens gun betr then grease gun

[toxic harness]

Opinions on top loading mags?

[austere rain]

sterling has similar vibes and is literally THE tube gun

[chilly thorn]

like if I was a pirate I would grab that shit and cut the barrel down take the stock off and walk around with in in a rope holster

[surreal pelican]

I finally finished hard mode

Time to chase after the misc achievements

[austere rain]

bren is awesome

[chilly thorn]

Villa Parosa

[torpid onyx]

goated at limiting feed issues from faulty/muggy mag springs (why the owen gun is goated)

[austere rain]

i dont understand why top loading guns arent more common tho, it helps wiuth feeding bc gravity does most the wordk, and going prone is easier

[chilly thorn]

I mean the brazillian swat still use Madsen

[torpid onyx]

many (well made) rifles nowadays are already reliable enough without top fed mags and it just inhibits the top rail modifiability

[austere rain]

in terms of smg's ive always wanted to shoot the pp

[chilly thorn]

ppsh or bizon they are both pretty cool looking

[torpid onyx]

plus it's more convenient to load a mag in the bottom then the top

[chilly thorn]

although ppsh without the drum mag looks kinda stupid to me

[austere rain]

the drum mag is cool, but it has the sweet brrrrt to it that makes it top notch

[torpid onyx]

and you can drop the mag if need be to "reload faster" in emergencies

[chilly thorn]

and also if you run out of ammo you can throw at the german!

[austere rain]

germans are cool though

[toxic harness]

Until it sucks

[chilly thorn]

Not back in ww2 they werent!

[toxic harness]

German hates shotguns and I agree with them after I play Cod

[austere rain]

they just had a lil too much patriotism

[chilly thorn]

More like they were fucking stupid and were easily swayed by a hateful dictator

[cloud tree]

Can’t even find a lobby for 30 minutes straight

[austere rain]

apparently he was very conviencing

[chilly thorn]

you know sorta reminds me of something going on right now, heh.

[austere rain]

oh boy

[chilly thorn]

oh boy indeed

crazy how we let this shit happen

and this is just the fucking beginning

[austere rain]

no comment

[chilly thorn]

but anyhoo how about that spas 12! that gun is sexy as hell!

[austere rain]

yes very innovative design

suprised not more shotguns have the pump/auto option

[chilly thorn]

Im pretty sure some version of the M1014 have it or something

[austere rain]

that gun has aura

[chilly thorn]

I could see the Spas 12 being a great addition to ready or not, A shotgun that you can switch between pump and semi would be cool (using the normal firemode selector button) and they could even add an extra pump only version for beanbags

[austere rain]

would be a great option for a retro SWAT dlc

[chilly thorn]

True Along side a Car15 or M4a1, a Colt Smg, and a Hi-Power

I would ove that so much

[toxic harness]

I need some Retro maps with more Retro gear

[chilly thorn]

Don't add retro maps that would fuck with the lore

More Retro gear YESSIR

[austere rain]

would it be cool if some guns had a duel mag option, lots of swat guys use thos in irl

[chilly thorn]

That'd be really fucking cool actually

like the commando from black ops 1

[austere rain]

not if they implement correctly, if ur familiar with the lore there is that one Lincoln guy. we could play as him in that retro era

[toxic harness]

What about more controversial maps similar to Elephant and Neon Tomb? Well ofc just to explore the history and how SWAT manage to get things under control

[chilly thorn]

I mainly don't want a black ops 2 situation of bringing a modern gun to the 90s, they would basically have to remake all the gear in the for that to work.

At that point they should just remake swat 4 in its entirety

[toxic harness]

I want St Micheals instead of Relapse

I want Twisted Nerve to be more darker like 1.0 to give us a better reason for NVG or Flashlight

[austere rain]

something like the iranian embassy siege, but in RoN would be cool and fit into the retro era nicely

[chilly thorn]

Relapse sucks, the story sucks its a letdown for the hand, its a music is kinda lame, and its layed out nothing like a real hospital.

[toxic harness]

Hell we can kinda dress up like SAS operators

[toxic harness]

It's supposed to be a recreation of Saint Micheal's mission

Which they actually featured patients in there

[austere rain]

"bravo 6 going dark" ion this bitc

[chilly thorn]

the current Twisted Nerve is actually DARKER then the old one!

[toxic harness]

I agree on the cave but not the houses

Maybe cuz my brightness was up

[austere rain]

a real hospital would be too big for a ron map

[chilly thorn]

It probably was since the only areas that are well lit would be like the couple of rooms with lights and the methlab

[toxic harness]

We can do few floors like Ides of March and Stolen Valor

[chilly thorn]

Then just close off some areas? Do you not know how maps in this game work they do that all the time.

[chilly thorn]

Stolen Valor should have been bigger imo, it was too good I needed more.

[austere rain]

ye i know

[toxic harness]

Most casuals will complain about it. They said Stolen Valor is more difficult 😭

[austere rain]

this map gave me a annuerism

[chilly thorn]

There was a top floor they closed off in stolen valor for no reason for it

[toxic harness]

MLO is in there

[chilly thorn]

which sucks because more rooms was obviously planned if you read the character descriptions

[toxic harness]

I wish we have a whole neighborhood for Narcos

[chilly thorn]

Its actually probably the two rooms of the big dude with the blonde hair and the crackhead with the long hair, they are both said to have rooms but you can't find them on the map.

[toxic harness]

Make it more difficult pls :3

[chilly thorn]

Narcos is already the hardest map in the game lol

[austere rain]

brother i dont feel like searching for a single civilian for 30 minutes

[toxic harness]

I say Leviathan and 3 Letter Triad is more difficult

[toxic harness]

On S Ranks speaking btw

[chilly thorn]

I want more missions like ends of the earth where we really question like "What the fuck are we doing"

[toxic harness]

What about Lethal Obsession?

[austere rain]

i mean cant cut them too much slack, they was selling guns to bad guys

[toxic harness]

And money laundering which they have better methods to use smh

[surreal pelican]

What's that? Swat4 mission?

[austere rain]

apparently one of the brothers had a engineering degree, like you can get rlly good jobs wit that experience

[chilly thorn]

Gerard scott is objectively a bad person, The Tran family are good people mixed up in a bad situation because of the state of los seonos and poverty

[chilly thorn]

Given the nature of LS they most likely couldn't get hired

[toxic harness]

Gerard has a reason. Why? Void had removed his balls!

[toxic harness]

Especially that there's def protests

OH, we def need a protest mission to force non lethal gameplay

[austere rain]

bro was packing too

[toxic harness]

Also I still wish we can have a Crisis Management missions where attracting too much sound can scare the victim and they end up dying

[chilly thorn]

It wouldn't work gameplay wise. but it would be a good questioning your morals type mission.

[toxic harness]

I wanna recreate the

Sir, I need you to shoot a warning shot at the protesters
Sir this a Grenade launcher
Potato Potato, just shoot at them

[chilly thorn]

"judge you need to pepperspray the guy in the frog suit he's a threat to america!"

[toxic harness]

"But sir I have this GA416-"

[austere rain]

remember no russian

[chilly thorn]

I feel like adding a protest mission would lead to lots of undesirable people playing the game as sort of a "protester shooting simulator"

[toxic harness]

What else do SWAT people do besides rescuing people? tf lmao

[austere rain]

better in game then irl

[toxic harness]

Do they not know THEY ARE A FUCKING SWAT? LSPD? POLICE DEPARTMENT AND NOT A FUCKING MILITARY GAME???

[chilly thorn]

lots of people who play this game think its "cool" or "edgy" too kills suspects or shoot civvies

[toxic harness]

I would def speedrun F rank, but still people gotta know that you play as an officer and you are in their perspective

[austere rain]

they really came out in full force after dev brief 87

[toxic harness]

We are SWAT, we are the only hope as other branches are practically corrupt, but we wanted to bring order to chaos

That's our goal, bring order to chaos

We are also trying not to create widows and orphans

[chilly thorn]

Ready or not is WOKE because no gore after killing in the game! (meanwhile ready or not literally being anti-government and anti-capatalism but they are too stupid to know that lol)

[toxic harness]

B-but they removed my child photos in my Ready or Not game!! Negative Review spam should get their attention!

[chilly thorn]

(only removed on console btw)

[austere rain]

lol

[chilly thorn]

I still find it so funny when the whole censorship thing started and I saw videos of people calling the game woke lol

like yeah it has been if you look into the lore and even like play the maps lol

[austere rain]

a word that people throw around too much

[toxic harness]

I seen people complain about it. When I actually play the whole game by myself on Commander, nothing seems bad

I only agree with Valley of the Dolls basement on console edition, otherwise everything else still exist

[chilly thorn]

woke literally just means "Aware of social issues" by definition, so it basically just means not being ignorant I guess.

[austere rain]

yeah procelain doll thing was really dumb

[toxic harness]

But it's their way of saying "fuck censorship"

[chilly thorn]

yeah... yell at the devs who are getting censored instead of the people censoring them.... great strategy.

[toxic harness]

I would be woke then but... I'm just a dude on the internet that occasionally say stupid shit

[austere rain]

i dint buy the game for all that stuff, i mainly bought it to play tacticall barbie with judge

[toxic harness]

50% on actual game
50% on dressing up my operator

Both sides have their pros and cons

George Washington even said "If there are dividing sides, America will be ruined"

Depending on the individual's view

[austere rain]

it was bound to happen

[toxic harness]

George WashingMachine my goat

[stable kernel]

No politics

[chilly thorn]

MY APOLOGIES MR VOID DON'T EXECUTE ME!!

[austere rain]

yes daddy

[toxic harness]

Beanbag this suspect's head

[chilly thorn]

This is just like the USIA suppressing gerard scott...

[toxic harness]

We are literally like Gerard Scott 🙏

[toxic harness]

bro... nah someone throw CS in his room

[chilly thorn]

honestly your message was funnier when it was in all-caps, you should have kept it that way

[toxic harness]

NO POLITICS OR YOU ARE GETTING THIS 9MM

[austere rain]

he wouldnt know funny if it sat on his face

[chilly thorn]

Seeing the waves of text getting deleted and then "NO POLITICS" was a good laugh

[austere rain]

thats how you know hes here

[toxic harness]

My message lived wtf

W mod ❤️‍🩹

[austere rain]

hes always watching

[chilly thorn]

No Politics (one of the most politcal games in the modern day btw)

[toxic harness]

I'm that guy frfr (ignore on the shi I said awhile back)

[toxic harness]

Anyway, but yeah the game is political but server doesn't want political. That lowkey is confusing

[austere rain]

if only our late community manager got that idea💔

[toxic harness]

I know we can just talk about the game's politics and the mods won't bat an eye

[stable kernel]

You are not discussing the events of the game

[toxic harness]

But what if Void wanted to add real thing to Los Sueños?

Just asking

[chilly thorn]

the game is kinda meant to parellel events in real life though and make us question and talk about things going on IRL, They literally enabled this through the game.

[toxic harness]

Especially the release of Elephant, a reference to Columbine Shooting

The line is a bit blurry but sure we can talk about anything else

[chilly thorn]

You can't say "your not discussing the events of the game" when the game is literally meant to be a look into things going on IRL

well kinda

there is still its own story but it has that aspect to it as well

[stable kernel]

Don't even try

[austere rain]

i think its like a different kind of politics, like the game is more based on the horrific action of humans like trafficking, shootings, etc, but what triggerent the mod was like political party banter and stuff

[stable kernel]

You know very well what you said was not about the game

[toxic harness]

Mr Eman got the blicky on him

[unborn echo]

mr eman how many l4 armored suspects are there supposed to be in sins of the father and narcos

[toxic harness]

Elephant has L4 suspects

The others are all L3 lmao

[chilly thorn]

I guess your right but I sort of mean just no politics in general, I completely understand why you deleted my messages.

[unborn echo]

ik all of them are l4

[austere rain]

cant win arguments with mods🥀

[unborn echo]

actually why did you even bring up elephant, whats the correlation

[civic fiber]

we should make a l5 suspect

[toxic harness]

You mentioned L4 suspects, I immediately thought of Elephant cuz they all use L4 armor

[austere rain]

bruh its 2 am for me why am i awake rn

[chilly thorn]

I thought the black sentinal were L5? they have way more health than anyone else in the game, they can tank like 3 buckshots

[toxic harness]

3am but I lowkey wanna yap my ass off before I go to sleep

[unborn echo]

speaking of 2 am why are YOU still awake

[toxic harness]

You are playing on Hard mode?

Or using a wrong caliber?

[chilly thorn]

Its a saturday, I doubt you got much to do so give yourself a break lol

[austere rain]

yes but now my precious sleep schedule is ruined

oh well

[chilly thorn]

Your a bit of a gun nerd right?

This is random but can you tell me how badly a Dragons Breath round would hurt in real life

[toxic harness]

It's fire

Ofc it burns.

[austere rain]

not for long

you would die

very quick assumeing its center mass

[chilly thorn]

Well lets say you got hit in the leg

[austere rain]

the pain would be excruciating

[toxic harness]

Burning sensation would make it even worse

[chilly thorn]

like im assuming it won't light your leg on fire I feel like it would more just burn really fucking bad

Unless hollywood was right about dragons breath

[austere rain]

unless you were wearing flammable clothing

[civic fiber]

shushhh

[toxic harness]

Even if you get amputated, you will feel burning + phantom itch

[chilly thorn]

so basically its just "fuck you forever" bullet

[toxic harness]

Yes, but they're not that practical overall

[civic fiber]

if you shoot gas does it actually catch on fire

[toxic harness]

Good question

[chilly thorn]

Yeah I'd assume that, friendly fire would be horrific and it would be easy to set stuff on fire that you don't want to lol

[austere rain]

*pellets

[civic fiber]

what about the wad?

you fool

[austere rain]

goodness gracious how could i forget about the wad, heaavens debestsy

[chilly thorn]

the game literally looks the same as it did last update?

[civic fiber]

womp womp

[toxic harness]

is this satire?

[austere rain]

womp womp

[toxic harness]

what

[chilly thorn]

wow your so cool, shut the fuck up cornball.

[toxic harness]

You wish you have one

[civic fiber]

ima put some meat in my mouth with this sandwich

[toxic harness]

Banned?

[austere rain]

yay mod saved the day

[chilly thorn]

well that tends to happen

[civic fiber]

is that too freaky…

[toxic harness]

What kind of meat?

[chilly thorn]

W mod moment!1!

[civic fiber]

Turkey

[unborn echo]

where did that other guy go

[toxic harness]

what else?

[austere rain]

shadow realm

[chilly thorn]

he said a slur and got rightfully executed

[toxic harness]

Eman shot a beanbag to his skull

[civic fiber]

uhh idk man i got mustard or maybe some sugar

[toxic harness]

NO! NO SHUT UP KENDRICK

[civic fiber]

you aint ever had a mustard sandwich boy

[austere rain]

he gets S rank

[chilly thorn]

thats kinda badass..

[toxic harness]

B rank lol

[unborn echo]

is eman stalking the chat

[civic fiber]

sandwich but its only mustard in between

[austere rain]

its kinda his job

[toxic harness]

Eman is watching. He is everything, even in my dreams he montiors

[chilly thorn]

do the mods get paid? or they just doing this for the love of the game?

[civic fiber]

in my restless dreams i see that silent hill

[austere rain]

i dont even know if eman sleeps

[toxic harness]

No discord mod gets paid

Otherwise the server would be shit

[unborn echo]

say that again...

[chilly thorn]

Why would you do it then though lol

[fiery vortex]

What do you guys prefer. 5.56 or 7.62 (nato) for lethal runs?

[toxic harness]

Volunteering work exists lmao

[unborn echo]

7.62 all days everyday

[chilly thorn]

like unless void giving me some early update information I wouldn't do shit

[fiery vortex]

One shot incap?

[austere rain]

neither 300 black

[civic fiber]

i hate myself so im gonna put hotsauce on my sandwich

[toxic harness]

That's not even that bad lmao

[unborn echo]

no, it punch bigger holes through suspects body, plus one shot incap too ig

[chilly thorn]

Yeah but I doubt you can put "Ready Or Not Discord Server" on your resume

[civic fiber]

Taco Bell Diablo sauce

[toxic harness]

I seen someone actually putting that on a resume...

[toxic harness]

Dead god...

[unborn echo]

i unironically put hotsauce on my sandwich i like it

[toxic harness]

What kind? Also based

People who don't eat spicy stuff sucks imo

[unborn echo]

maybe not american hotsauce, but yeah i do

[chilly thorn]

not spicy enough. Be a WOman.

[fiery vortex]

I like how arguably main weakness of 7.62 nato in general is how it has less rounds per mag, followed by recoil and gun length (imo it’s longer than most other guns in 5.56)

[toxic harness]

Well duh tell me

[unborn echo]

its called chinsu

[civic fiber]

chat how good is a bottle of hot sauce thats been refrigerated for half a year

[unborn echo]

not good

[fiery vortex]

In your experience, is it worth it to use .300 BLK over the other 3 in assault rifle calibres?

[unborn echo]

actually no it SHOULD be good

[chilly thorn]

sounds tasty, I'd down it in 2 minutes and 17 seconds.

[civic fiber]

glass bottle

[austere rain]

300 black guns are short good armor penetration and high mag capacity, and also the guns athat use it are s tier

[unborn echo]

just check the expirement date

[toxic harness]

I don't refrigerate one of my salsa, still kicks so hard

[civic fiber]

Burmans Hot Sauce

[austere rain]

honestly use whats best for u

[fiery vortex]

I mean if it’s acidic and pretty acidic at that, should still be safe

[civic fiber]

i don’t think it has one

[chilly thorn]

Anyone else smack the glass bottle against their head and than let the liquid pour down onto your mouth to drink it or is that just me !

[austere rain]

im still waiting for void to give me my 50. bmg baret

[fiery vortex]

Nah just undecided between “one shot incapacitation”, versatility of 5.56 and intermediate of .300BLK because 7.62 Soviet is on a gun that is not fun to use

[unborn echo]

i mean, sure, but, why?

[chilly thorn]

JHP 50 BMG

[toxic harness]

If you want S rank, embrace the M32A1, or die trying with a Beanbag where suspects can tank it better than humans

[austere rain]

but suspects, are humans?

[chilly thorn]

I feel like that would just fucking blow you up lo

[civic fiber]

no they aren’t

[unborn echo]

maybe the m32a1 was never overpowered, it evens the playing field

[chilly thorn]

Void add a 22. pistol for fun

[austere rain]

test it on the racist downstairs in the police station

[civic fiber]

ok chat here i go to make my creation at 2:17 AM on a Sunday

[fiery vortex]

Void give us a belt fed smg that we feed via belts on our hand

[fiery vortex]

Not enough armour

[chilly thorn]

void, frag grenades when?

[austere rain]

same timezone twin

[chilly thorn]

Void Can I call in a nuke on the methhouse? if not the game is slop

[fiery vortex]

What if full team, 9 bang flashback in a closet with one suspect

[austere rain]

when is molotov cocktail update

[fiery vortex]

Tomorrow

[unborn echo]

defines "versatility" because seriously, the 7.62x51 IS the most versatile caliber in this game

[toxic harness]

Solo M32A1 on Hide and Seek is just impossible

[chilly thorn]

I feel like 9bangs would be so horrible in real life, that much loud sounds and distorenting effects on a person is bound to cause cardiac arrest or seizures

[toxic harness]

Even a duo is impossible but duable

[fiery vortex]

5.56 in that it is controllable, good armour penetration, guns it is on generally have a good (imo) rate of fire, and have 30 rounds a mag

[civic fiber]

the sandwich had been made…

[toxic harness]

Don't do the crime if you don't want to do time

[toxic harness]

Just eat it already

[chilly thorn]

Don't do the crime if you don't want to Unauthorized Use Of Force -50, Unauthorized Use Of Deadly Force -150

[civic fiber]

here i go in 3… 2… 1…

oh it has a nice kick to it

[torpid onyx]

7.62x39 is near idental to 7.62x35 (300blk) and I mean 300blk JHP is actually usable against l3 plates compared to 5.56 but it just depends on how much power you want plus how much recoil you're able to handle reliably

[unborn echo]

try the ga51, with a muzzle brake, has the recoil of mk18 with the ability to oneshot incap, also, 7.62x51 jhp has FAR better armor pen than 556 jhp, and imo, 20 or 30, you wont need more than 60 bullets to clear the whole map if you place your shots carefully, extra mags are supposed to be for emergency, not the standard

[chilly thorn]

Twin a sandwich should not have "kick"

[civic fiber]

i put two different hot sauces on it

[chilly thorn]

the mixture

[torpid onyx]

also 300blk offers the shortest rifle/"PDW" in the game (dm4)

[chilly thorn]

dm4 is funny because its the only grey gun in the game

[civic fiber]

i LOVE .300 BLK guns in this game

[torpid onyx]

there really isn't many 300blk guns

there's only like the arn180, dm4 and lvar

and the dm4 is the good one

lvar is "fine"

[chilly thorn]

The ARN180 sounds so good unsupressed

[fiery vortex]

Void please give us more .300 BLK and 7.62x39mm rifles

[civic fiber]

ah this sandwich is a little spicy

[chilly thorn]

The Dm4 fucking sucks what you on about

[civic fiber]

we need the Kris Vector

[chilly thorn]

it feels the same to use as the ak just slightly smoother

[chilly thorn]

We need a kriss vector

[civic fiber]

can we get actual good optics for the AK

[chilly thorn]

Can we just remove the AK lol

[fiery vortex]

We literally have a discount 9mm kriss vector

[unborn echo]

rate of fire is literally meaningless if you shoot in single fire also if you really wanna tryhard, staggering should also be taken into consideration, staggering soft stun a suspect, sometimes make them stun in place, sometimes they can still walk but cant shoot back, and 7.62x51, naturally, has alot more staggering chance

[civic fiber]

no its not the same… I NEED TO BEAM 45 ACP

[fiery vortex]

Just give us the AK74 atp

[chilly thorn]

just don't give us a fucking AK they look stupid in the hands of swat, and modernized aks are like so fucking ugly ugh.

[civic fiber]

true

[fiery vortex]

Ak’s look best the more scuffed you are…

[chilly thorn]

I would be fine with an AN-94 but thats not even an AK it just looks like one.

[fiery vortex]

Homeless people therefore would look best with an AK

[civic fiber]

we aren’t even slavic so how can we posses the true power of the AK

[chilly thorn]

Ak's look best with a taped on grip no dust cover and a stock made out of shoe and a candy cane

[fiery vortex]

Honestly true

[fiery vortex]

Nah I mean people wise. The worse or more damaged an AK, the better it performs. Like a damage buff or smth

[unborn echo]

ak hater

[chilly thorn]

Im not an AK hater, Im a modern ak hater, and I hate the idea of american police using an ak

[fiery vortex]

I mean I get what they mean but personally I love the Groza and AK-12

[chilly thorn]

The Ak74u? Fantastic looking gun.

The AKM, is just nice.

but when you get to the AK102 or whatever the fuck I just hate how they look

[civic fiber]

ok please acually tell me the diff between a AK-47 and AKM

[unborn echo]

hell nah

[chilly thorn]

idfk lol, I literally only like guns based on appearence.

like idc if the gun is terrible IRL if it looks cool I like it

[unborn echo]

akm has a higher stock than ak-47 but thats about it

all they did was change the stock and give it a new name

[chilly thorn]

thats pretty cool

I will always just call it an AK47 though

[civic fiber]

i need to move into slavic culture as its my family background but i live in America

[unborn echo]

by your logic all ar15 rifles are m14 just cause

[chilly thorn]

A slight stock difference between an entirely different gun

[civic fiber]

like my family started as far as ive dated, in Poland so dats pretty cool

[fiery vortex]

Dust cover. 1 is stamped other is milled. The other has a different muzzle shape. Iirc only different remaining is just how the metal was done, stamped or milled

[unborn echo]

"an entirely different" that uses the exact same operating system 🤔

[chilly thorn]

oh my god bruh

[civic fiber]

Calm down Dura no need to crash out

[unborn echo]

wdym literally having fun rn

[civic fiber]

interesting

[chilly thorn]

nobody is looking at a M16 and a M14 and calling them "the same gun" If you see an AKM and AK47 and don't know the difference you could easily just call them both AK47s

[unborn echo]

but true, akm has no distinctable feature from the ak47, akm was meant to be an improvement to the ak47, there are changes, just not noticeable

[chilly thorn]

you were just ragebaiting me the whole time...... and I fell for it.....

[fiery vortex]

I want more bullpups in this game :D

[unborn echo]

[civic fiber]

[fiery vortex]

I wonder if there is any .300 BLK bullpups if that is possible

[chilly thorn]

Bullpup 1911

wait...

it already is.

[dusk ravine]

@tough edge

[unborn echo]

you just pinged yourself smartypants

[dusk ravine]

No I didn't.

Crosscheck both accounts

[unborn echo]

there actually is two avi

[unborn echo]

actually no my point stands, its essentially just your alt, so you infact, pinged yourself

[dusk ravine]

I lost access to that account.

So its infact a part of my past.

[unborn echo]

wuh

[dusk ravine]

PL5er?

[unborn echo]

pl5?

[dusk ravine]

PL5

[fiery vortex]

Would a tavor and KS-1 work as new additions to the game in general. What about those attempts at modernising revolvers?

[unborn echo]

yeah whats that

[dusk ravine]

brm5

[unborn echo]

ooh, yeah i used to play it

[teal gulch]

um. What happen if I don’t close the container?

[unborn echo]

nothing

[teal gulch]

oh. I thought Fisa gonna wipe me team off

even TOC confused.

[civic fiber]

Radiohead

[chilly thorn]

You can’t win

[teal gulch]

they gonna wipe even my squad mate?

[chilly thorn]

You just can’t beat the mission till you close it

[teal gulch]

oh I thought they gonna send their men to execute us all

but why did they wanted to hide the human trafficking?

[chilly thorn]

It’s how you want to interpret it

[teal gulch]

what do you mean?

[chilly thorn]

They don’t give us a reason as to why fisa wants us to close the doors or why judge fights back, your meant to make your own conclusion, for now.

[teal gulch]

damn the fisa

[red kayak]

Big DDD

[unborn echo]

hi E

[young mirage]

Sir, I've got a civilian wearing a bomb armor, is there a way to diffuse it?

[torpid onyx]

the only reason 300blk is probably less popular in bullpup form is that 300blk is already very capable in 6-10 inch small form factor carbines and often doesn't benifit an exceptional amount from extra barrel length compared to stuff like 5.56/308 and becaus of that it just isn't worth getting the disadvantages of a bullpup for marginally better performance

[toxic harness]

No

[torpid onyx]

no, you can't interact with civillian bomb vests, they just have a dead man switch that means if the civi dies they blow up so make sure not to kill them or have them caught in crossfire

[young mirage]

No time limit right?

Thought i need to finish the map quickly

[torpid onyx]

civillian bomb vests do not have a timer, just a dead man switch

[young mirage]

You call that...small???

[torpid onyx]

yeah I mean 10 inches is pretty small for me

[young mirage]

🥀 🥀

[craggy fable]

[surreal pelican]

Wait what?

They do? I've never seen the dead man activation activate before

[twilit mulch]

they don't have DMS. If you shoot the vest it'll explode but no DMS

[surreal pelican]

Ah

[surreal pelican]

Stupid question, but what's DMS?

oh nvm

[twilit mulch]

dead man's switch

and there are no stupid questions, only stupid answers

[surreal pelican]

Thank you, so if the civilian with the vest dies, it shouldn't explode unless the vest itself has been shot right?

[torpid onyx]

ah the only time I've seen it go off was when my teammate flagged a civi and shot them then boom so I thought it was cos they killed them

[surreal pelican]

[twilit mulch]

exactly

[surreal pelican]

Thank you

[twilit mulch]

any time 🙂

[surreal pelican]

Relapse is a pain in the ass, can't tell whos who from afar

[torpid onyx]

i have a clean civillian kill record

[twilit mulch]

[surreal pelican]

Was doing well for my hard run until one of the docs with the vest charged and killed my squad lol

[quasi coral]

Holyyy shit

I unloaded half a mag of my MP5 into Gerard Scott

That shit does NOT penetrate

[jolly verge]

Level 3 armor

[severe shell]

does anyone know whether youre still eligible for the Hermit achievement if you alt f4 the game when something goes wrong?

[quasi coral]

Ya fortunately it stunned him for long enough that it eventually put him down

[quasi coral]

That's a positive

But it feels more rewarding if you don't

[severe shell]

real but if a civilian in neon tomb blows me up i do NOT want to do all that again

[quasi coral]

Like, A LOT more

[severe shell]

fair 😂

[quasi coral]

I think you needa really watch your fire 😭

[severe shell]

sometimes they just come storming at you its crazy

[quasi coral]

Actually, I don't blame you for that

[unborn echo]

how many lvl 4 armor is there in sins of the father and narcos (supposedly)

[red kayak]

u play phasmophobia?

[unborn echo]

nop

[red kayak]

ong i bought RoN, and it got bored already 💀

after 3 hours of playtime xD

[unborn echo]

i mean true, aside from just, acting like you're doing cqb irl there isnt much else to ron

[quasi coral]

Some people find it fun and replayable and some people find it a one time experience

[unborn echo]

i find it fun mainly cuz im sick and bored of the fast paced fps out there

ron actually offer something different

[red kayak]

true

i played lots of games, but all of em got boring already ;/

[jolly verge]

About half on Sins of the Father and none on Narcos

[unborn echo]

yeah im talking about what if it isnt bugged how many would there be, or how many unarmored target is there as of rn

[jolly verge]

Like 2-3 dudes with mag drum m4 were wearing level 4 on Narcos before they change it (intended btw)

[unborn echo]

why would they nerf em

[red kayak]

you have a card?

[quasi coral]

Ya I guess it's just you

[red kayak]

i can share 1x a nitro trial for 2 weeks to someone, but it requires a card to activate

[red kayak]

im just not really a gamer

but sometimes i got like 1-2 hours of free time during the day

so i want to play some games, but cant find any good ones xD

[quasi coral]

Maybe try like, Idk man

[unborn echo]

im good was never interested in doing discord nitro

[quasi coral]

Elden Ringy?

[red kayak]

it free

[quasi coral]

Deadass with this storage limit I might as well be sending everything through links

[unborn echo]

i dont trust discord with holding my cc info tbh, also why its not linked

[red kayak]

i kinda like games like phasmophobia, fortnite, cs2, RoN ish

[jolly verge]

That what MMMM told me, can be wrong, but I remember checking their loadout, there was level 4 but it did not work because of one incorrect value

[red kayak]

ah okay fair enough

[quasi coral]

I see, welp, have fun with em

[red kayak]

well i dont have fun with them cuz it got boring already

not fun anymore

[quasi coral]

Then you don't like them

[red kayak]

i do like

[quasi coral]

You should find something else to do(In the nice way)

[red kayak]

but i dont like to play

[red kayak]

i work sleep school gym

there always couple hours left i have nothing to do at night 💀

like im not that typa guy who is behind a screen 24/7

[quasi coral]

Well, I can't help ya, but I hope you find sum that peaks yer interest

[red kayak]

yus thanks

[quasi coral]

I also have like, 1 or 2 hours of gametime everyday, but I still find RoN enjoyable(It's been an year)

[red kayak]

you play with friends or just AI / solo?

[quasi coral]

So it's not really about whether sweat holding you down to your chair or not lol

[quasi coral]

Literally just AI(I play with friends but rarely)

[red kayak]

aughh

[quasi coral]

Maybe it's like Dress to Impress, I just use different loadouts or change my teammates clothes or sum and then play out a mission

[unborn echo]

random queue

[quasi coral]

Honestly, maybe that's why I'm so desperate for the devs to give me more options and variant for customization

[willow solstice]

how tf are people creating cinematics and shit\

[quasi coral]

Random queue trying not to shoot you in the back of your head for deadass no reason

[quasi coral]

Replay mode :D

[willow solstice]

theres a replay mode?

[unborn echo]

yeah

[quasi coral]

Yep, people edit with that

So much cleaner

[surreal pelican]

How many C2 charges do I get with 1 C2 slot?

Do I get 2 per 1 C2 slot like the door wedges? 1 door wedge slot = 2 usable wedges?

[solemn patio]

Suspect eating 12 gauge slugs..

Slugs are so ass sometimes

[surreal pelican]

The hand members deserve buckshot

[solemn patio]

Their damage feels so unreliable

[surreal pelican]

How's buckshot Vs slugs? I never tried the slug variant before

From what I know slugs are like the AP variant

[solemn patio]

I fucking hate slugs

[willow solstice]

my ai just killed a civilian...

[solemn patio]

I feel like a .300 blackout would be better

[stoic thistle]

Yeah, most of the shotguns in this game aren't good against armor.

[solemn patio]

No, I hate slugs because of how weak they are

[surreal pelican]

I got fed up with relapse hard so I just ran shotguns until I failed for the 929309th time lol

[solemn patio]

I “stagger” unarmored women at 9 feet

[surreal pelican]

How much damage do they do compared to buckshot?

[solemn patio]

I dont know but I like blowing peoples arms off with ol buckshot

[jolly verge]

Enough to oneshot any suspect in game up to level 3 armor on standart difficulty

[surreal pelican]

Nice, thank you

[surreal pelican]

Same here

[solemn patio]

Dude carriers of the vine is pissing me off, the women keep shooting through the plants and fences

Their morale is way too fucking high

[unborn echo]

good

[willow solstice]

blud pulled a spetnaz manuver

[solemn patio]

Dude my AI are fucking stupid

Oh yay “you’re in the way chief” MID GUNFIGHT.

Why cant I say the B word :(

MOVE DIPSHIT?? Like??

Do they have Xray vision

These dumbasses just shot the HVT

And killed her (suspects did anyway)

Then I die because every fucking lady has a machine gun in their back pocket

[teal gulch]

sometime I forgot every company has their own body pillow version of a character in game.

[floral gorge]

old version of game was better

[teal gulch]

the uncensored one? I thought we had mod for that?

[stoic thistle]

Yeah, the Swat AI needs improvement.

[solemn patio]

Carriers of the vine feels so overgrown

They see through it perfectly

So I can only use ai swat for the gardens

Sometimes AI do galaxy brain plays

[stoic thistle]

Like not arresting the extremely dangerous criminal who has surrendered, or just allowing themselves to get shot.

[solemn patio]

No like I had an AI use a completely different entrance and kill like 10 suspects by flanking them when I said move and clear.

I think I got the good ai prototype

[simple dirge]

First try at Mirage…with an MP5 SD6, got blasted 🥶

[torpid onyx]

using 9mm against armour 🥀

are mirage level 3 plates?

[torpid onyx]

I would like using 9mm or 45 SMGs more exept they're literally so bad against armour it hinders my gameplay so much

[simple dirge]

Coming back with a GA51 and tons of flashes and stingers. That map looked like a real mess to own tactically…

[valid wadi]

you have to know the suspects to know whatll work on them

[solemn patio]

They arent armoured

[valid wadi]

then that seems like a bug or an issue on your end, slugs are fatal anywhere on the body i believe

[simple dirge]

Sorry for the lame question, very quick: which is the best handy and lethal shotgun? Never used a shotgun and wondering which one would give me that Doom feeling in case I am tired 🙂

[solemn patio]

Buck also staggers for me

But thats more valid

[torpid onyx]

they all shoot the same thing

the m1014 has very heavy-handed recoil compared to the b13 though

[valid wadi]

pump action shotguns are better for accuracy

for fun use the M1014

for a good semi auto use the 1301

[torpid onyx]

the spread really isn't that big an issue though shotguns are good for pretty far ranges anyways

[lost inlet]

five seven AP and b1301 buckshot.

a no brainer combo.

[simple dirge]

Thanks I am gonna berserker mode. Got to pause the game after “very likely” cleared the upper decks in Mirage, now approaching all those fucking stairs going the lower decks. This map is like Aliens….🥲

[warm copper]

Can somebody who did the yacht on hard give me some tipps; me and my friend are struggling real hard rn

[simple dirge]

I imagine

[buoyant cipher]

bro i think its the 3rd mission its so hard

[wraith basin]

I thought it was better if you used HP for pistols, tho. Not sure if AP can penetrate anything anyways.

[lost inlet]

Depends on the armor enemies using and the rounds that you’re using.

[simple dirge]

Tnks for the hint 🙂

[lost inlet]

9mm, .45, .357 and .50 AP can only go through T2 armors. 5.7 and 4.6 AP are the only small rounds can go through T3 armor.

[wraith basin]

Okay then. If I ever used pistol, I tried to aim at the limbs anyways because of the HP I was using

[austere rain]

supernova is a very underrated choice, lowest recoil of all shotguns, accurate to longer distances, and better choice of optics

[simple dirge]

I’ll try! Thanks:)

[valid raven]

TOC is the person that monitors the operation right

how do they know what you’re doing are they wearing like body cams and stuff?

[floral peak]

Ofc we do wear bodycams

[valid raven]

I assume they stream them to TOC

[austere rain]

but how do they know the second a hostage has been taken in a random room?

the only way is if they're in a heli with thermal vision or something

[lost inlet]

That’d also works.

[fiery vortex]

Someone made a RoN anime girl toc voice. I can now hear a woman screaming at me about accidentally killing civs

[torpid onyx]

you can literally watch your own teamates bodycams

[torpid onyx]

that's mainly for 9mm and 45 since those are incapable against armour even with AP (they take like 12+ rounds to kill against l3 armour)

so it's more reliable to take JHP where if you land 2 limb shots they're down

5.7 works with either caliber fine but generally is more consistant in shots to kill with AP although JHP would work better if you are reliable at hitting limbs but it's not as much of a no brainer as 5.7 is like a 5 or 6 shot kill against l3 armour with AP not like 12

[pliant frost]

Breaching shotgun is better than ram?

[torpid onyx]

wait a minute can a door be trapped on BOTH sides

I just had a trap disarmed on my side of the door then opened it cos I was like "oh there can't be traps on both sides" and then BOOM I didn't even walk in just opened the door so I know it wasn't the trap on my side (which was disarmed anyways)

[pliant frost]

Never faced sth like that

[soft thunder]

Are stinger gernades even useful?

I feel like I can get the job done just fine with flashbangs...

[pliant frost]

And I faced excatly something like that lol

I started playing with stingers, but after a few games i switched to flashbangs

Stingers useless imo

Additionally, you can't get friendly fire penalty with flashbangs

[jolly verge]

Same thing as flashbang, just 2m more radius, higher damage and can cause FF penalty

[cedar mulch]

Los Locos boss likely has some kind of background. He has barely made any appearances. There was no word of him from 2026 in DLC1 to 2027 in DLC2.

[austere rain]

am i wierd for preferring iron sights in RoN?

[pliant frost]

How did you achieve that sergeant role

[cedar mulch]

The deal between Los Locos and the Spider Organization may also have been orchestrated by the group behind them.

[cedar mulch]

No, this stems from a pathing error in VOID. All three maps in DLC1 were originally supposed to have Level 4 armor. However, due to an error by VOID, they ended up without it.

VOID's technical capabilities have been steadily declining. They've already lost a core group of personnel, and their official website can't even fill all the positions they're recruiting for.

[soft thunder]

We were gonna have level 4 body armor?

[cedar mulch]

dlc1 suspect

[soft thunder]

oh

[jolly verge]

Well you need like 5 seconds to fix this issue, so it's probably intended , just like they changed level 4 to level 1 on new mission

[cedar mulch]

SWAT team's armor system operates entirely differently from that of suspects.

[cedar mulch]

This is entirely different. The problem with fast food is that they set the unarmored appearance to level four.

VOID If no players complain about fast food, they wouldn't bother at all.

During its alpha phase, VOID was known for its meticulous approach and strong technical capabilities. Now, however, they produce DLC purely for the sake of scamming money.😆 👍

[jolly verge]

They don't bother even when we complain

[cedar mulch]

In reality, even Level 4 armor is meaningless. If you have a rifle, you can just shoot right through it.

The suspect's armor is nothing but paper-thin, unless they decide to adopt the same material-based protection rating system as SWAT.

This game is a joke in so many ways.

[valid raven]

honestly body armor doesn’t protect you 100%

like even if you get shot with body armor on you still get large bruises and broken bones better then it going into your body but it doesn’t stop the force completely and the remaining has to go somewhere

The method depends on the type but ceramic arrmor is the most common

The shattering disapates a lot of the force

[cedar mulch]

VOID doesn't even know how to write a plot anymore. To the point where their official website still lists a "Narrative Writer" position

They're such failures these days. They're good for nothing except making money.

[austere rain]

yes big failures

[marsh lark]

I think I am not the only one when I say that I play it for the tactical aspect of the game. If I wanted a story I would go and play a game that is story driven.

[austere rain]

the RoN lore is fine, nothing groundbreaking shakespear masterpiece but def still a good plot

this makes me believe you dont even know much about the games story

[cedar mulch]

The only thing they should do is bring back everything from the Alpha phase—be it run, snipers, drones, or whatever else.

[marsh lark]

We tryna make R6S out of this or what

[cedar mulch]

I think you've got one thing wrong: Ron's storyline so far is just the same old conspiracy theories rehashed.

[austere rain]

snipers... in a cqb oriented game

if you want COD go play COD

[cedar mulch]

No, this is what VOID originally envisioned the game to be.

[cedar mulch]

This isn't COD either; it's what Void did back then.

[marsh lark]

Ron's plotline is divided in 2 parts for most of the missions. One is the gamma project, the other is the illegal stuff. So you are also half wrong

Tbf envision is more like concept than anything that truly makes it to the game

[cedar mulch]

The existence of run mechanics in the Alpha phase doesn't mean they were used indiscriminately; strictly speaking, the game's quality back then actually surpassed what we have now.

[cedar mulch]

Their early promotional videos explicitly stated these features would be included, but they later removed them. The current DLC contains no new mechanics worth marveling at.

[marsh lark]

"Content is subject to change"

That is the highlight of those videos too

[austere rain]

it sounds like you want RoN to be R6S

most players do not want R6S

[cedar mulch]

Do you know why? They've been trapped alive by their own delusions. I don't know what they've been through to become this way.

[humble mauve]

yes.. the 2020 ron pvp alpha well known for being perfectly flawless with no flaws whatsoever

[stoic thistle]

Dark waters added in the helicopter camera, it's not very useful but it's still new.

[marsh lark]

Run mechanic is hit or miss. It is not needed at all, but could be nice.

[cedar mulch]

Sounds like you can't tell whether I'm talking about PVE or PVP. Old PVP getting removed was deserved, but OLD PVE wasn't.

[acoustic gyro]

You guys see the movies in ready or nots files

[marsh lark]

Not really, I think we both interpreted what you said the same way. The additions you wish are simply what would make this full PVE R6S

just without operators and their specific gadgets

[cedar mulch]

I think they've been running on fumes for ages. After DLC2's major update, they showed their worst side.

The period around DLC2 was great, but after DLC2, it was over.

What exactly have they been up to this year? Taking a vacation?

[marsh lark]

Hard to say when our community manager got fired and no one has been replaced yet

[austere rain]

ok so were gonna ignore the 3 patch updates since console launch

do you think game dev is snap fingers and its there kind of deal?

[cedar mulch]

DLC2 includes three maps, while this year's release features two remade from older maps—not even the old hotel made the cut. The so-called difficulty options are merely data adjustments.

[austere rain]

it was not just a map pack, it came with a bunch of new weapons, (like a non lethal pistol fans were asking for years) a bunch of bug fixes. The only bad thing was the graphical downgrade, which was a bug, and many of the graphical issues have been fixed since

there really is no pleasing you huh?

[marsh lark]

There is no way you said dificulty option is just data adjustment. I guess I must be crazy then, because last time I checked every 3A popular game that has dificulty settings are just adjustments of damage, health, reaction time/speed

[austere rain]

that too, data adjustments is a GROSS simplification

[marsh lark]

As a matter of fact, every game with dificulty setting that is not strictly a tactical/RTS game, even then it might fall under that

[cedar mulch]

The content in DLC2 absolutely crushes this year's updates—their attitude has taken a nosedive, especially when you see the sheer number of new weapons added. And grenade launchers existed before version 1.0; they just brought them back.

[austere rain]

behold, the difference between a paid DLC and a update

[cedar mulch]

This means that last year they released two major updates: DLC1 and DLC2. But what about this year?

[cedar mulch]

You mean they only have one major update this year and are pushing the actual DLC3 to 2026.

[marsh lark]

I am talking about your "data adjustment" argument. What you pointed out is literally what dificulty settings mean in most games. They differ by how hard the enemy AI is to fight against. In some games that have exploration it differs what loot you are gonna get and how much of it are you gonna get.

And even then this is almost redundant because these games use "adaptive dificulty" in exploration. Meaning the more loot you have, the more shit loot you are gonna get. And vice versa

[cedar mulch]

This means they've been sufficiently lazy this year.

If they had two major updates this year, no one would complain, but now it's a step back compared to last year.

[random obsidian]

I hath been summoneth

what are y'all arguing about

[turbid monolith]

More like no pleasing modern gamers suffering from shareholders who will never be pleased

[chilly thorn]

they literally had no armour last I check

[turbid monolith]

Titles like Call of Duty make a $69.99 game EVERY YEAR, so you get fans starved for content in other games, because they simply have no patience lmao

[chilly thorn]

last I checked the only suspects that have armor without visually having anything is the dudes on Sins of The Father

[jolly verge]

They do, but only some with level 1

[chilly thorn]

You could easily conceal a level 1 under a shirt, why is he lying?

Is his hatred for this game so large that he can't see objective fact?

[jolly verge]

Yeah, as well as level 4

[chilly thorn]

most of them fucking go down in like 2 shots from the pistol?

thats some shitty fucking l4 if thats true

[solemn patio]

Me when the suspects instakill me at full health because they’re using their Bullshit Rifles on full asspull mode along with their fucking aimbot

[chilly thorn]

swat 4 reference

[jolly verge]

I mean other levels, not just fast food

[austere rain]

somehow i dont have this issue

[solemn patio]

Why is carriers of the vine so fucking hard

[chilly thorn]

I honestly don't think the current suspect ai is hard enough, they miss like 75% of their shots even at close range.

[solemn patio]

Its the bottom left garden, total deathzone

[austere rain]

bros getting outshot by karens

[solemn patio]

Not with me, suspects always hit 90% of their shots

[solemn patio]

I keep getting m14 suspects sniping me

[austere rain]

then shoot them first, or take cover

[chilly thorn]

Just don't go outside

if you wrap around the corner from the entrance you can easily get to the sniper tower and arrest her

(if she even spawns there that is)

[austere rain]

"arrest"

[chilly thorn]

I mean thats the ideal outcome lol

[stoic thistle]

The AI instantly turn into navy seals when they're the last hostile in the level.

[austere rain]

my 12 GA would beg to differ

[chilly thorn]

I hate it when that happens its such a slap in the face and its usually my fault since I got to cocky

God the cult on carriers is so stupid, like they look so cool but the plotline is so unrealistic its feels wrong.

[stoic thistle]

It's not impossible for such a group to exist.

[solemn patio]

Hard to do that when they see you through small cracks in the walls and windows

[solemn patio]

It would be more subtle tbh

[austere rain]

crazy how how i can see things through windows

[solemn patio]

The grassy area.

[chilly thorn]

the cult feels like a joke.

[solemn patio]

The bottom left garden, all my suspects spawn there usually

[solemn patio]

It feels like a stereotypical cult with crazy ass shit that would not happen

[chilly thorn]

exactly and having them be abused woman and just treating them like crazy people just feels so wrong

[stoic thistle]

The cult started out as a women's shelter right?

[solemn patio]

They probably use substances to deal with the pain, so maybe they’re using like marijuana or mushrooms

Maybe alcohol and shit too

[chilly thorn]

I think the excuse was that elane raskin manipulated all of them?

[solemn patio]

MKUltra maybe?

She could be using drugs to control the members

[chilly thorn]

more like just emotionally manipulated them to become religious fanatics, theres recordings on the map showing that she doesn't really believe in any thing she is saying.

I just wish the cult was more realistic

the cult in swat 4 was amazing

[solemn patio]

I hate the unauthorized use of force when I shoot fleeing suspects who are in the hesitation state

[pliant frost]

that's why no mercy for terrorists is must have if you're not a masochist

[solemn patio]

The cult really seems more like a terror cell

[chilly thorn]

more like if you don't wanna play the game lol

[pliant frost]

what are you talking about

[solemn patio]

Not sure I follow

Suspects who flee have guns and pose a risk to others, it is reasonable to shoot them.

[chilly thorn]

If you don't want to have RoE be a thing why are you playing a game entirely built around that idea

[dense karma]

How to download RoE for free

[solemn patio]

Well think of it this way, mr ali ahmed has a RPD, you’re gonna shoot him if he starts walking away so he doesn’t kill a bunch of people or come back to harm you later.

[pliant frost]

I have twice as much fun playing realistically, picking weapons that fit the operation I'm carrying out, than I do bringing a pepper‑ball toys against over twenty terrorists wearing body armor and armed with live rounds

I literally use RoE, I don't smash through them spamming my LKM

[solemn patio]

This game promotes less lethal not “RoE”

[chilly thorn]

Following RoE isn't using less lethal guns following RoE just means not shooting people when your not supposed to.

[solemn patio]

Yea.

[pliant frost]

Yeah, and that's what I follow

[solemn patio]

I dont shoot surrendering suspects (on purpose anyway)

[chilly thorn]

Then just use the base games roe system?

[pliant frost]

I use live rounds only when they keep shooting at me using live rounds lol, I can't understand you

[chilly thorn]

Yeah and the game doesn't punsih you for that?

[pliant frost]

And I use every possible method to NOT use lethal weapon

[solemn patio]

I get point reductions for shooting a suspect whos walking out the door who’s not listening to my commands.

[chilly thorn]

You don't get point reductions for shooting suspects who are firing at you

[pliant frost]

Lethal is ultimacy

[solemn patio]

No.

I mean the ones with the guns down, who hesitate and decide to try walking out the door

I dont take that shit broski.

And Im not chasing you into the open

[chilly thorn]

Well then just let em run, thats what makes this game intresting, situations like that.

[solemn patio]

Nah I find it more fun kicking suspect ass

[chilly thorn]

Well yeah but i thought you were like, getting mad at the game for punishing that.

[pliant frost]

I know it's just a game, but for God's sake, why is there a mission where five SWAT guys have to handle a huge territory with twenty suspects, like in Greasy Palms? Fighting them with pepper‑ball guns isn't funny at all, bro

Pepper-ball shit

[chilly thorn]

Greased palms has like 12 gangsters

[pliant frost]

yeah but you can understand my way of thinking, right ?

[solemn patio]

It feels like more because of how much cover they get prob

I actually had fun on the club map lowkey

Neon tomb was fun as hell when I didnt get ASS spawns

[chilly thorn]

I don't know, personally I don't find greased palms that hard because its super easy to just beam them down with the shotgun

the maps honestly pretty easy when you use a shotgun

[solemn patio]

I personally brought .308 for the wallbangs

[chilly thorn]

.308 sucks I hate them lol

well they don't suck I just don't like using them because its hard to round corners with them

[solemn patio]

Its only good for armor

[pliant frost]

Following that, flashbang grenade launcher makes every single map easy

[chilly thorn]

Not true at all the flashbang launcher fucking sucks

[solemn patio]

Rotary or single shot?

[chilly thorn]

Rotary I assume, its so unwieldly its insane.

not to mention unless your at long-medium range you are going to distorent yourself

[pliant frost]

M23A1

Rotary one

[solemn patio]

Rotary HE launcher when

[chilly thorn]

Chinalake payday

yeah but I really don't understand how you can say the flashbang launcher makes the game easy

[solemn patio]

M79 sawn off when

[chilly thorn]

I want a tec9 if they do a retro weapons dlc

I know its fucking flimsy as hell but it looks nice you cant lie

[solemn patio]

It looks inbred I love it

I want an AM180

Or a .40 SW 1911

[chilly thorn]

Speaking of guns, the MCX is an amazing smg in this game underrated as hell nobody talks about it

[solemn patio]

MPX*

[chilly thorn]

oh mb

its good though hm?

[solemn patio]

Yeah

Spc has best iron sights

[chilly thorn]

those are the cool hexagon ones right

[solemn patio]

Yep

[thorn egret]

Hear me out
DLC1 was in the city, right
Land based
DLC2 was all about water; Island, boat, oil rig
DLC3 will be in the SKY
Flying aircraft carrier...A blimp...

[solemn patio]

Maybe we play as air marshals in the 3rd one

I want suspect ai to be nerfed so they dont see through shit so much

[chilly thorn]

I think that would be a lil too crazy

[solemn patio]

Pistols only and its in duos

And you need to start 5-10 hijackers

Maybe a grounded plane?

[chilly thorn]

maybe a dlc that takes place during a city wide black out

[solemn patio]

Maybe

I want more dark missions

It feels so tacticool

[chilly thorn]

You could have an Office Building, Grocery Store, and a third map

[solemn patio]

I wish dark waters had a narco sub mission

Where we board and go into a narrow ass sub

[chilly thorn]

I wish the elysian was a little bigger

That map deserves to be massive not fucking hospital

[solemn patio]

I wish relapse was built more realistically

Less weird angles and twisty bits

Hospitals are very straightforward in design

[chilly thorn]

It just feels more like a lump of concrete then a real hospital

[solemn patio]

I love gunfights down long well lit corridors

[stoic thistle]

Eh, the Elysian is already big and there's a bunch of suspects.

[glass heart]

plane hostage rescue

hell, dont call me shirley already exists as a mod

would be a fine addition to the game

[torpid onyx]

mile high club from cod 4

[floral trellis]

relapse s tier is taking a hit on my mental health

[chilly thorn]

Dont call me shirley is actually based off a map made by the devs for testing I believe

[solemn patio]

LOL YES

I loved that, it felt so badass

[torpid onyx]

atleast it's not greased palms

[glass heart]

greased palms loading area is almost as annoying as warehouse

just because the swat ai cant take point without being demented about it

i end up having to issue a fall in command and take point myself

[austere rain]

DLC4 wil be in space

terrorist attack on ISS

[glass heart]

shooting inside a space station, what could possibly go wrong

[austere rain]

im sure nothing will go wrong

[solemn patio]

Real

[chilly thorn]

I want an entire horror based dlc focused on abandoned buildings

[toxic harness]

Similar to Dorms

[glass heart]

we need a serial killer mission

[toxic harness]

Similar to the house mission from Swat 4

[chilly thorn]

Abandoned Hospital imagine the potential

[glass heart]

fairfax residence is lowkey one of the fav missions

[solemn patio]

Maybe we pursue one suspect who has a gun

[glass heart]

even though theres usually only one suspect

that should probably happen before swat gets there

they dont really get into foot chases

[stoic thistle]

Maybe some freaky MLO stuff could be going on.

[wet roost]

hey does anyone have the same expierience of the first ission in the home invasion dlc being so buggy?

[chilly thorn]

The old port basically felt abandoned

[wet roost]

or is it just me

[solemn patio]

Maybe they’re mixing chemicals to create the funky stuff

[austere rain]

Voll is serial killer

he killed a bunch of kids

[glass heart]

yeah but he ordered them to be killed and thats not the reason we are there

in the case of fairfax its a more conventional swat mission

which i would love to see more of

[chilly thorn]

I think lethal obsessions is this game versions of fairfax

[glass heart]

thats fair but it doesnt hit the same in terms of creepiness

[toxic harness]

Yeah but Lethal Obsession is not that subtle compared to Fairfax

[chilly thorn]

Fairfax is not subtle at all

[toxic harness]

Lethal Obsession is more like "tf is this crazy man speaking?"

[toxic harness]

It is since the whole thing is in the basement

[glass heart]

not about the murder spree no, but there are some subtleties in the home especially the living room that highlights the misery the house is in

[chilly thorn]

I thouhgt you meant the plot lol

[stoic thistle]

What if the twist of one level is that there was no threat at all? Like a paranoid guy saw dudes playing airsoft and called the police or something.

[glass heart]

the insects and decaying meat on the counter, the messy state of the home, the echoes of better happier times (anchor on the wall, measuring chart)

[glass heart]

this is what 23mb could have been

but no, we have to kill 10 hoodrats instead lol

dont get me wrong i like the mission

[stoic thistle]

That no one reported for some reason.

[chilly thorn]

23mb sucks

[toxic harness]

In the lore Micheal is also part of this whole spider thing that he got bodyguards

[glass heart]

i dont think hes part of it, hes just a weirdo who has hired these guys to protect his crypto farm

[toxic harness]

And also send photos

[glass heart]

he buys what voll is selling

and propagates it himself

you dont need to be part of a secret criminal organization to do that

[toxic harness]

But he'a a high paying customer and a supporter. He def used those bitcons to cash more money so he can pay more

Hell he was chatting with people in Mindjot who houses those photos and connected to other people

Which it is also why we are targeting Voll cuz the A.V is on one of the servers