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Help, what are the soft objectives in neon tomb
Bruh i thought greased palms was hard, Hide and Seek with AI is 10x harder
There are none
Arenāt any
You donāt need any evidence to arrest terrorists who just shot up a nightclub, the evidence is the piles of bodies
Same with relapse
Ok
How in fcks name do i beat hide and seek with ai on ironman mode
give them all flash launchers and follow a proven route
Its so rng based where the enemies spawn tho
Give them all shields, they eat the bullets and you kill
Yeah till they drop their shields and try to be superman
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oh yeah sorry my advice was only if your doing S rank idk why i said that
Haha all good
Half the time AI donāt even return fire so shield is best bet
Imma give it a shot in a little bit
does anyone else still see on mission selection saying they got S tier on standard mode even though they S tiered on hard mode?
Try restarting your game
i did
still stays the same, even tho i got the achievment for beating the level on hard
also i came back after the update and my s rank for lawmaker for home invasion dlc is gone randomly
sm bugs
Iām fairly sure that wasnāt a bug
how?
Iām not fully sure but I think mission stuff reset in the update but youād have to ask someone else for confirmation
Is there any way to force civilians to crouch with hands up in Neon tomb or is it some known bug? In 3 runs in a row in hard mode on Ps5 a single npc just stands still no matter what I do, fire flash bangs, grenades, pepper spray or punch, they just stand refusing to get hand cuffed and I'm unable to finish all objectives. I never ran into this in standard.
I believe this is technically a bug but civ's should be going hands up instantly when you bash them. The only time they dont is when they are "hiding"
ugh i finally got the hermit
They're just standing in the open frozen, although they do play a little reaction animation they dont move. Two times I hoped they'd snap out of it and i went on to clear the rest of the objectives. Then when I came back they're still in the same spot. I had my ais surround them and use non lethals on them as well. Quite annoying to end the run again and again due to this in hard mode. Third time I spent about a minute hammering the guy and yelling, even shooting him with a lethal pistol and he didn't care so I just closed the game as I knew it was over š„²
That sounds unusual so yeah its probably a glitch, not sure if its the map or what is causing it though. It really sucks because theres a wide range of bugs currently in the game that just waste literally hours of the players' time. Bugs that ruin runs, bugged achivements, etc
It's the first time I run into this issue, I've cleared all missions on s in standard (before the last patch) and all the missions in hard up to Neon tomb and it seems to be a consistent thing for me in this map. I was curious if others were running into this as well (again I'm on ps5) i guess I'll just skip this map for now and hope it gets fixed after the next patch
sadly thatās how it be sometimes
Whatās all the maps with live traps on standard and hard
Who has real SWAT experince or at least know most of it for the game
This is a bug that I think came up after the latest update.
Several people, including myself, have run into exactly the same problem you encountered.
This bug ruined my HARD S run
anything involving the vets/secret service (also the new apartment map what is it narcos? the one where the one cop is strung up in the weed basement) so lethal obsession, ides, st george hotel
That would be Stolen Valor by that description
yeah u right
when next update š
Ah OK well it's good to know I'm not alone in my suffering š„¹
Ok, for some reason I check for traps on lit every map like an idiot
if you pay attention to when you first load into maps TOC will say if there is traps planted
new meta vpl with 10 mags
Guys so i had 2 veterans on my team and they incapacitated like all the suspects, no civilian deaths, and they were all content. I donāt want to lose this last run so do you think any of them will be too stressed and resign??? Im on the very last mission and i cant have any team losses
Im on hide and seek
Idk if all of that matter when it comes to Hide and Seek
I THINK I DID IT
Nothing happens. I did the last mission, and after it ended I lost one of my officers due to stress, but I still received both trophies
BOYS I GOT THE WATCH
congrats bro š¤š¼š¤š¼
nice job
I had one get incapacitated during neon tomb otherwise iād have āthe hermitā
Next ironman playthru iāll just have 2 veterans, they cleaned shit up in hide and seek quick
My swat AI is stupid and when they get shot they just stand there and stare at one place. I didn't risk it and played the whole Ironman solo
Remember, always yell to alert other of your presence.
for the watch do i have to s rank all maps or js make sure none of my teammates die
Wsp twin
why, what's up?
i want to play with someone with swat tatics and maybe teach me
my dad was in the force, but i don't know his experience personally. he only told me little about his time in the LAPD.
I just downloaded the game looking for a tactical group of people to play this with. -callouts, countdowns, slow paced breaching (the works)
what platform.
I jus got it on steam, but im willing to play with any plat honestly
i'm also PC.
me trhee
i'm no officer in real life, but i've done milsim with former officers (including my dad).
and i've played the original rainbow six games and police quest / swat games religiously.
i have a buddy who said he would be down to play as well if u guys wanna squad up that would be cool, he beat the game n normal. My mom was military and my uncle was a marine I have a pretty good idea of tactics frm rotc and movies and stuff plus the formation and how to approach situations just makes sense to me lol
also ROTC?
i'm a flight sergeant in the civil air patrol auxillary and AFROTC.
Thing is, there is no universal rule how to do CQB, every military force, every police department does it differently.
^^
you either do it well, or you die.
Yeah as some will trap suspects or go aggro with suspects
nnice! so i think collectively there is more than enough exp to get the ball rolling in the right direction
your wits are what matters when it comes to actual CQB.
but in a game, it shouldn't be too troublesome.
You will have some things that are fundamentally similar or same when it comes to callouts such as dynamic or deliberate entries, single or double stacks, deep and close, dead zone. Those things, but any other callouts will probably be up to the SOP when it comes to clearing a building or a room, aka cqb
my game jus downloaded imma g check on the kids brb
and unless you have any floorplans, clearing out the room is a pretty big leap. you don't know whether or not the entrance is against the wall or is in the center of it.
Generally though, you know you are efficient in cqb when you barely do callouts and flow with your team, and the only comms that really happen are when you pie a room, check with mirror wand, call out what entry and what position (double or single), and maybe whether you hook or cross the entry point
Plus be able to learn how to scan a room safely
And when it comes to a pie scan or a mirror wand scan, you can give the center/corner fed room callout
Are the devs aware of the 2 unobtainable trophies in the game right now?
Pretty sure they are.
I don't see it anywhere on the known issues list
in swat3, the wand was an actual search mirror used to check under cars in checkpoints, lol.
you could only check corners with it.
DBD profile picture but not in the DBD server š
which one?
broooo
Theyāre probably talking about āFrom house to homeā and āGetting your sea legsā
Yeah those are hella broken
Yeah sadly those are also the two Iām unable to get so Iām just hoping they know and patch it
Same, I'm not reattempting 3LT
The ones for doing all the DLC trophies. I've done all the DLC trophies but neither are unlocked
Apparently the only known fix is not closing the game and get them all in one session. If you think I'm doing Sleeper Agent and that sniping 30 meters one in a single session you are dreaming
How did you get sleeper agent? Iām looking for advice for that one since Iām stuck on it.
There are issues that are noted, but not every issue gets listed in the #archived-known-issues section. For example the latest issue in there is actually there since the official release of RoN, but that issue is generally the smallest inconvenience you can have considering the only thing you have to do is walk back to spawn if that happens
I followed that one Youtube video on it about arresting everyone. If you know the one I'm talking about except I ignored the part about the caches. I made a train of enemies and had them all stuck there with the ziptie glitch and then just arrested them all. Need to make sure nobody in the train is more than 10 seconds apart in walking distance though
Are you talking about the trophies not unlocking?
oh ok thank you
Yes, not every issue gets listed there because it would be a never ending list to be fair, a lot of the issues that were fixed in LSS#2 patch were not, to my knowledge even listed in #archived-known-issues
If you have 2 negotiators on your team it makes it way easier there is a 50% every enemy will get down upon the first yell. You can literally do an entire mission without firing a shot because you get lucky and everyone just gets down instantly
Well, saying it would be never ending might be an overexaggeration, but you get the point
I'd argue it's much more than an inconvenience. Trophy hunters literally can't get the 100% and not closing the game to restart is a massive hinderence. If officers die you need to farm the one you need back before you can try again and it could take literally dozens of tries to get even one of the 2 stupid RNG based trophies
I was saying the civilians not getting arrested at spawn when you send them there is a minor inconvenience
I guess I can try that when Iām not playing with my friend cause thatās how Iām trying to get the achievement with my friend.
My bad fam
Yeah just make you sure you only have your officers stack up, clear rooms, or hold if they aren't doing any of those things they will start arresting your train which ruins it untill you've got your 15
Still waiting on that casino map void š
Been doing relapse for over an hour and a half now, can't find last suspect, I swear he's out of the map. Search and secure command doesn't work, especially on this map. Tell someone to scan a room, they say there's a suspect. Clear the room, nothing. I've went through the map at least 4 times at this point. Do I have to restart the mission all over again?
Have you checked hiding spots?
Examples?
I am pretty sure that if you shot a suspect and made him bleed, he can die which warrants you to report his status from unconscious to dead to my knowledge
So I gotta search every body to see if I can report them?
I could be wrong, but it is worth a try.
I'll do anything at this point
There's closets in this map?
Will there be new maps created. I got the DLCs and there is only 5 maps between the two
which dlc you got?
There's 6 tho, 3 in every dlc
anyone wanna squad up? im excited for my first run
I got both DLCs and yes there is 3 in each with there be more like the original game
Just got friendly fired by an ai in hide and seek š
Don't run infront of your squad during combat
Didn't, they just turned around and point blanked me
Maybe you killed civilians
Enemy ran by a window
If you kill civilians they just kill you
Didn't make any lethal shots
Next patch when?
I'm confused what the rules with bot ai are in the load out challenges
Will I get the FISA Belt and Plate carrier with the Delux edition or no?
Iām thinking of upgrading on Christmas but idk
Fisa belt?
Yeah, there was another tac belt labeled FISA belt before the latest update
No I have deluxe and pre order and I don't have it
It said locked to the supporter edition
Supporter edition stuff are never gonna be unlocked
You get 6 maps and some cosmetics
Imma have to wait for Christmas bc I canāt afford it rn but Iāll definitely buy it then
Anyone else just get kicked randomly joining into lobbies by the host?
Might be some of the little pc nerds salty about console players
No, but Iāve heard some rumors about console players getting targeted by TK or being kicked in lobbies with PC
Itās kinda funny when Iāve seen countless pc players so far more clueless than some console players Iāve come across
Sometimes Iām doing a mission people are actually taking their time, banging doors, not rushing in Iām like damn letās see if theyāre on mouse and keyboard they clearly have been playing the game for a while, nope itās a ps5 player. Games been out for years and people manage to catch up to the skill level In a month
Some PC players Iāve seen cant aim to save their own lives
They say we have aim assist, I have it turned off honestly because itās pretty badly designed, it is not difficult to aim especially when theyāre using a mouse which is far more accurate and easier, manage to somehow be worse than me with stick drift
Make it make sense š
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Similar situation with helldivers coming to Xbox
anyone know if there will ever be a double rail system š¤
when are they gonna fix the aim down sight with shield
Double rail like, laser + light, or?
Kam was alluding to that coming, so some time between now and the heat death of the universe.
yea like laser and light and oh snap
I can testify it is far easier by miles, it might be their setups and them not reacting fast enough or hard enough against recoil
This is a main reason as to why I run low vertical recoil, so I can be easier on myself and focus more on aiming then stability
It just feels like they donāt even try
I mean, Iāve seen a good amount run 7.62 full auto
So theyāre probably teenagers.
Would be cool if instead of turning the laser on or off, it cycles. So one press is laser, another is light, and third turns it off then it cycles
I feel that laser and light might work, but the light might just drown out the laser unless they make it way more visible
4 states hopefully, I imagine it would just cycle through on controller, but maybe we could get separate keybinds for PC
- off
- light
- laser
- light + laser
And there could be a setting which you can change whether you want all options available or just laser and light etc for the people who complain that itās too complicated
peak
Or click to turn on and off, click and hold then a wheel pop up to indicates which mode you wanna use.
Nothings worse than playing with cod players who don't report or bag anything and just rush through the fucking map
Nothings worse than reporting or bagging everything and not rushing through the map
is it just me or is elephant more annoying than valley of the dolls?
are the pre order weapons coming to standard edition on consoles?
pre-order weapons will be unlocked free for all remaining players come next content update/DLC
your planet is now subjugated by the great devourer (kaminsky)
Any of these player limit expanding mods working?
Can I join somebody game ?
Yes, by looking for public game or joining your friend's lobby
I'm going into The Spider, is it a big map or a small map
Just watched the movie Running Scared
One of the story arcs in it was basically Valley of the Dolls I wonder if VOTD was partially inspired by said scene
Well, specifically the reveal of ||shelves full of DVDs labeled with kids names ||
https://youtu.be/-F1_YxuiQ4Y?si=ypuVrFq3hnNOJC2x he missed a detail in the cellar room actually, where you can find a HUGE pile of menās clothing. So huge that I donāt think the graves are of men, but of cult members who passed
And the one with the shovel might be of Garcia since she is a women
I donāt think they would afford the same treatment to men
Best map/s for CQB? (Non-modded)
maybe it's just me, but even on Standard mode (which supposed to be similar to we had before the console release) suspects are basically running with unproportional speed when engaged IMO. before suspects did shift from your line of fire when engaged, but it looked "natural" and they did it steadily. now they are literally running away as in Matrix movie. did anyone noticed this or I'm crazy?
Why did they change the door kicking animation it looks so bunsš
How to use the voice chat for console
I think it is just you, cause suspects have been doing that shit for years lmao
I played this game for years, but it feels differently after the console update for me
I mean, the console update also broke a ton of shit as well, but suspect sprinting sideways at full speed while magdumping you is shit that's happened since Early Access
yeah, maybe it's total amount of things broken that made me feel like that
is there any way to change the language the AI speaks in?
Anyone ALSO getting the bug where your guys clip into each other when stacking up on an opening/door?
what are some things to do when you get bored in ron
besides get S rank on missions thats just straight unfun
Shoot everything
Play multiplayer
Standard got like a small difficulty bump
You can download mods or spend 30 minutes trying to make your officers look "cag"
why is finding the last civilian on narcos and relapse so hard omds
Because you're not clearing areas properly
Relapse is best for finding civilians because it's split into two buildings
you can clear the entire building, wedge the arch and then just search the second building.
Check bathrooms on relapse, and the lobbies
Fuck you amos
Hey Amos
You know whatās funny Amos?
My bodycam got broken and I have grizzle in my hands
what did I do to deserve this opeopel
I already blocked you legends, leave me alone
I blocked him too
shut up idiot
You were annoying as fuck to everyone and chat and talking shit legends
He called me n word
And now you even said the f slur
@soft narwhal yo mod can we get this guy away, he says f-slurs
Legends said he was gonna fuck me while I sleep tonight and calls me gay
And this guy wonders why he got kicked before
Donāt worry legends, we will get you kicked again if needed
He deletes messages
Too bad everything been screenshoted
Yeah, he also tried getting my IP with grabify
where
Damn
if it was through DM's, send a screenshot through @hollow falcon pls
Dms
I actually think enemy AI isn't the problem (on standard), the problem is that swat AI is inferior to enemy AI in every aspect. Your team guys have less awareness and precision than random crack heads
This legends guy also called Amos an n-word in past and now he says f-word
2 veterans helps with precision
Especially on hard
Legends got muted, womp womp
not nearly enough
then just play with real people
I do a lot
If you guys need, I can help you with anything
the AI is kind of stupid, I agree with that but I don't really see any issue with their aim
I more see issue with them NOT AIMING while getting shot by suspects
They just stay and shout ādrop your weapons!ā While getting shot
āEntry team to TOC, requesting execution authorisationā
Let him cook first
Wait I forgot it's amos voll
do NOT let him cook
Jokes aside, this legends guy is weird asf
He randomly texted me today
āGay ass motherfuckerā he said
the fuck did I do?š„ š
And then this lil bro tried to rick roll me in big 2025
Kind of a W
My issue with guns is they donāt return fire
@plush gust Wdym #šØron-screenshots-and-art
We did the same mission
Score the same thing.
HE GOT AN A+
I have an S
We literally just finished together.
Not sure
Ready Or Not devs I'm begging you to give us the ability to change la zoom on the Elcan and Vortex š
Damn, this game is so bad when it comes to getting Ses.
Does commander mode only show your scores that you earned in commander mode, or multiplayer too?
Itās 2 diff tracking systems
Commander mode has its own tracking of scores etc but quick play and MP is the same
Alr thanks
Is Gerard wearing armor? Cause I shot a whole magazine of JHP and he didn't go down
There is at the very least 1 with L3A, but they all can have L3A, the only way to guarantee that your JHP will go through that is by using a gun which has 7.62x39 JHP or .300 BLK JHP
Moving into college today. Canāt wait to freak out my roommate when I sit around raging at my failed attempts at an S rank run
Will i have to use nvgs on lawmaker?
I don't think so, you can still see things and enemies
Flashlight enogh? I do prefer laser tho
Either way I bring NVGs to every single mission, so this is not really a problem for me
I know, my question was if its too bright for them?
If you are fine with suspects knowing where you are, yeah
Will i use nvgs like whole mission?
There are barely any missions where the game becomes too bright for NVGs
I can take like ir laser
Laser or IR laser does not make a difference, suspect AI does not actually "see" the laser, they see a flashlight though
Oh i see
What entrance do you recommend?
If Iām running ARN should I do 3 mags of AP, 1 JHP or 3 mags of JHP and 1 AP
I always run just AP but idk
I am not sure if there are multiple entry points you can select on the map, there probably are, but I always pick the default one. I generally go to one of the side doors and start clearing from there
You cannot switch between ammo types in some fast ways if I remember correctly, so just bring JHP on missions where there is no L4A, which is like 5 missions in the whole game and grab JHP for the rest unless you actually utilize wall or cover penetration often
Alr Iāll bring 2 of each yk to be safe
I hardly use 1 mag in most missions tho
And I presume 7.62 pens everything with JHP?
No, and there is a difference between 7.62x39 and 7.62x51
What's the difference
The numbers
7.62x51 bigger so hits harder 
Only the trash ak uses 7.62x39
Trash gun
is there a mod for fixing the watered down ai
What does āwatered downā mean in your eyes?
they are fucking stupid is what it means in my eyes
I assume you mean the swat Ai?
and enemies but yeah mostly swat
Enemies you can play hard mode if you want harder ones as for swat Ai there are some mods that at least make them more aware etc etc but thereās only so much mods can do since they only really change values regarding their behaviour. So donāt just expect them to become like gods with a mod
all im expecting is them to return back to before these updates
https://www.nexusmods.com/readyornot/mods/1358 this mod has a file for just swat Ai overhaul that makes them more aware in general
probably fixes enemies walking into their own traps and killin civillians right?
I mean killing civs is in their benefit since it ruins it for you as the player. Some maps have that as intended behaviour
killing themselves as well im assuming is not tho?
As for running into their own traps I personally have never had that happen ever in my runs that Iāve done since traps where added so idk if I play too little or something but never had it happen
Suspects? Thatās also intended behaviour for some high value suspects etc
possible
guys hear me out ready or not should have a pvp mode
CoD
no like a tactical pvp like zero hour where two teams breach a building and have to eliminate eachother
Rainbow six
What? Game fits your description
something like zero hour pvp
Lean, sledgehammer, operative elements
Sorry dawg year 1 rainbow six siege was almost 10 years ago
Once upon a time it was
I know, roblox game Blackhawk or something
Rip siege man
I know this game had PvP but it ādidnāt workā but I really think it could work
I also know the R6 kids would flock and in 5 years the game would be unrecognizable
Apparently they want to bring it at some point, however it would probably take some time, starting from either creating dedicated maps or reusing maps, adding some form of anti cheat into the game and all the mechanics around it would probably take some time. They always tried to prioritize PvE for now
I feel like The Elysian hotel would make for a good PvP map
as long as it would stay a tactical shooter instead of going to futuristic siege shannigans i think a pvp would be fine. But i definitely want them to entirely have PvE ya know actually working and not half broken/riddled with issues
Is there a reason why the prisoner in the training area doesnāt get hit by magnum
Iām tryna do the Wild West achievement so if magnum is bugged then
dont even bother trying to go for it, its bugged massivley. the achievement not the magnum that is
like genuinely its stupidly incosistent, the requirements you need to do change depending on person to person and even than half the times people dont get the achievement when it looked like they shouldve
Idk but magnum wonāt damage the prisoner either
idk maybe its bugged but i dont even use the magnum anyways tbh its a meme gun
If you have or had gunfighter and are missing guns that you should have, go to #š§modding-chat and do what the latest pin says
If you guys like pvp maybe try zero hour 
I had a small room with a suspect and a civvie, of course I managed to shoot through the door and kill the civilian
Im on console and cant figure out for the life of me how to get the helicopter cam on so i can see
I tried LB+Left on D-Pad and it wonāt work
I have beaten ready or not, all achievement for the base game done
What maps are you trying to use it on
The yacht mission
RT when zoomed on tablet until itās there
How long did that take
Lifesaver, ty
I started playing before Release in early access, I had 30 hours, upon completion I have got about 110 hours
Oh that's not bad
I will be making a guide but if anyone would like advice, I'm happy to help, I have not got DLC achievements, I imagine that'll be another 20 or so hours
Ok
Should be able to cycle through the helmet cams or on the main tablet
@gaunt gale when can we expect a Fortnite x ready or not collab?
You are getting executed today once I start up Valley of the Dolls
In which levels do you guys often use TRPL?
Mother fucker
Maybe the real valley of the dolls is the friends we made on the way
What's the best officer traits for Greased Palms?
Whatās the end goal of the map
You just wanna finish it or?
Veterans
Did you know in the hospital mission if you go right then left then right and shoot 3 times nothing happens
This is
This is because
Check your front door Amos
4 men in hawaiian shirts are behind your front door
Hello welcome to my daughters birthday please come have a drink š
Can you make us a tour to all rooms?
Do you have a basement sir
Even bot hates amos š
No bitchh the piexalatedsigns say Jenny party downstairs only
Sir I need to go to the basement
I found some CD with "The Spider Girls" written, whats that
To fix your electric sir, Iām an electrician with swat gear
They never even show a warrant in game
Theyāve been negotiating so they know
Only in Los Suenos
Doesnāt matter
Vally of dolls S rank first try
wooo lets gooooo
Still need an arrest warrant to arrest someone
Fuckk u
Itās presumed they have a warrant
Not how it works in real life
Also they can show the warrant after arresting them..
There was literally evidence that prooves that Amos Voll was in CP ring, Brixley's PC and A.V. Data in mindjot
What evidence
I hope the death pentaly is legal in this state
Iāll die by the fact that voll is innocent
And high priority calls donāt always require warrants btw
Iāll prove anyone wrong
Certain A.V. was the one who was texting to Brixley about kids, hes also the one who provided Bolton Security to him
Im not sure what word i used in that sentece that the auto mod caught me on
Police can enter without warrants with reasonable cause to believe a crime is in progress, about to happen or has just happened
Even if he wasn't a horribly evil child abuser
he still made adult film material
Straight to jail
Okay so texting about kids is illegal? Guess weāre locking up every single parent now. And since when is it illegal to have private security?
And high priority calls where they donāt have time to get a warrant they can enter without
Porn is illegal in los suenos too? Holy
Some random guy texting to some random "Talent Agency" about kids that doesnt even relate to him
There wasnāt a 911 call in the evidence so it wasnāt a high priority call
To me it is
Bro, thereās managers that do that for a living
^
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What crime was in progress at my house
Only if the crime is in visible view from public property

Nope
Bro Iāve seen breaking bad
Reasonable grounds, including sounds, smells visual cues etc
Laws are different in different states
and we dont know the laws of California at the time of the game
Thatās so not true š
Tell us Mr. Voll, why would your Security Agency attack police officers on sight?
Well itās 2025-26
YOU BROKE MY FUCKINGG DOOR DOWN ARE THEY SUPPOSED TO ASSUME YOURE THERE FOR THE PARTT?
and set in an AU where we have had like 5 extra presidents
We are police officers, and security agencies, who built from ex-police officers and veterans, should know that police never come without the reason
alright im gonna say it. fuck Greased Palms why the hell is this shit so tedious
Actually i also broke every window in your house
Los suenos PD is incredibly unreliable and corrupt, itās fair for security to assume they are enemies
ny boyfriend and i can hardly clear it
No problem I sell 1 child fix it no problem
Where it was stated that LSPD is incredible corrupt and unreliable, and even if it is, Security Agency would never attack police officers without a reason
Under these nuts
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It only says that los suenos is in a bad state and crime is it an all time high, not that police are corrupt
Judge is corrupt as fuck in lore are you serious?
Official lore or fan made?
Judge was experimented to be a perfect police officer
Official lore
Ur crazy bro
Heās notoriously corrupt bruh
Where the fuck is Judge corrupt??
Link it
"IM going to LARP as a child abuser"
honestly off ur rocker
How about the fact they raided a house where a young girl was sleeping peacefully in bed and then reported it as a crime?
@gaunt gale is there any plans to add the M4A1 back? i need to rest my autism
Judge is not corrupt in the lore, he is an USIA asset deployed in LSPD SWAT after being medically discharged and becoming a super soldier project of the USIA also known as "Gamma one"
Also tried saying the methheads in twisted nerve are good parents of the child cuz sheās sleeping normally, when before censoring she was convulsing with cocaine in the room, not to mention the used condom next to her bed
Stop spreading false lore
but its true mr epstein
That was old lore. New update made her sleeping
With the used condom next to her bed
well coke and meth are different but yes you are correct
Tryna defend them is crazy icl
He said the dudes in twisted nerve canāt be charged for child emdangerment as she is sleeping perfectly fine
Which is one of the dumbest takes Iāve ever read
- LSPD got information from hit-and-run victim. It turned out to him being runner for the guys that run the neighborhood. He was tortured by the gang before, and then in hospital he gave all information on the houses.
- Near sleeping girls were found syringes, which implies someone supposedly druged a minor
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And a used condom
yes, under the bed
For sauce, check Twisted Nerve briefing and audio
And plus the parents would AT LEAST be taken away from the child due to them being incapable of reliably raising her properly
and for girl, investigate the bedroom
Look at the bedroom pre censor too
Iām fairly sure there was drugs in there, and it was dirtier(?)
Saying that Judge is corrupt is simply impossible, experiments were made to make him perfect policeman
you could see syringes
Peopleās only argument is she appears normal and the room is tidier
People forget about condom under the bed
But people who say she appears normal clearly havenāt seen her before update
She was lit convulsing on the bed due to drugs
First of all. Itās a triangular pixel, not a condom. Secondly, if it was a condom, I applaud parents that teach kids about safe se x
and @pine canyon, ill quote from game briefing: "We've got arrest warrant for Amos Voll and a search warrant as well for evidence of the production of porn material involving minors"
Icl Iām not debating with you
its literally 3rd sentenct in briefing
So farming is a crime now?
Heās just ragebaiting bro
Iām not
i can tell, but here we are
Ok so can you explain your claim of no warrant
He cant
Ik he makes claims without evidence lol
Any cop can say āWe have a warrantā. I wonāt let a cop on my property unless I see the JUDGE SIGNED warrant
Youāll see it in your holding cell
SWAT donāt just carry warrants on their back pocket to show to dudes pointing guns at them LOL
Bolton knew what they protecting, and thats just incriminates Amos even more
āYo before you shoot me just gonna show you, hereās the warrant broā
Bro. Dolls arenāt illegal.
"Heres your warrant Amos"
pepper spray
Can we get a developer to confirm that Amos is innocent
Let me prove these guys wrong
Ask any VOID and theyād laugh at you
Theyāre probably on another vacation
no one would prove Amos innocent, because its impossible
You havenāt explained to me how having dolls is illegal
I can explain how child corn is
Are you dumb?
Idk cuz it was in your house
In the basement pre censor
Just cuz censoring doesnāt mean lore changes lol
He doesnt care about that i guess
Yes it does because what we see is the lore
He loves to deny the truth
No LOL
Bro the whole point of ready or not is that the story is in the background and details of the map. Thereās a huge wall with pictures of dolls and abunch of dolls in barrels with abunch of photographs of dolls. Itās obviously about dolls
Ok amos, explain buried barrels with children clothes and toys
fym doll children
I was burying old dolls to get rid of old trash, Sue me. Actually shoot 17 .308 rounds into my chest while youāre at it
I have a daughter, I was getting rid of her old clothes too
why wouldnt you throw them in trash like every normal person
Are there tapes in VOD that have anything btw
Have you seen the streets of los suenos? You think anyone gives a shit about proper waste management?
It was the weekend and all the trash collection places were closed so I figured just bury them and forget about them
Itās my property and I can dig wherever I want
Fascist pigs
Alr bro elite ragebait we get it
Do you stop an old woman gardening at gun point and say āHANDS UP WHAT ARE YOU BURYINGā
The fact this guy protecting someone like Amos Voll is crazy
You wonāt prove what Iām saying is wrong
You gonna defend the people in hide and seek next?
Where do I start with that one. First of all
they're too old for him lmao
literally
oml
The cargo contained with the women was unlocked they couldāve left any time and I believe they stayed purposely
Also thereās no proof that the drugs and guns were specifically tied to the people arrested on that map
Can you tell me how to open a container from inside
When theyāre dehydrated, and not fed
Doing Ironman mode
I also didnāt see any proof they were auctioning humans. It looked like a regular auction to sell items
1 door is open slightly when u see it in game
im done with this schizo guy
With the human maniquins and hardly dressed women inside
What
Hes too dumb to understand
And masked men on the call
Heās defending the criminals in hide and seek, parents in twisted nerve, and Amos voll
So they were most likely auctioning mannequins if thereās mannequins at the auction. Come on use your critical thinking skills
and women in underwear
What crime does that break exactly?
Human trafficking
Even when you open the door they stay too
I refuse to believe this isn't ragebait
Like what are you on?
Iām not rage baiting. I think the lore doesnāt make them seem criminals if you actually take two seconds and think about it
Dude, theyāre dehydrated, malnourished, tired, they donāt get energy to walk out a whole port, and they probably think itās better to stay with the police LOL
Show me where they say all that
LOOK AT THEM
Bro Iām 130 pounds, just cuz Iām skinny does that mean Iām dehydrated and starving g
Some people are just skinny bro
Amos, have you ever played Buy Cheap Buy Twice?
Also the port is full of armed men š that repeatedly abuse them if they get out of line
It literally says behave or get the hose and there's something called the hose in the auction room which is a whip š
Second amendment?
Yeah, in that mission theyāre deleting a 1000+ IDs of the women
Literal map of where deals are happening and being sold
And voice recording in "Auction room" in Port
DUDE š This is California š
Who has some of the harshest gun laws do you really think fully auto high caliber weapons are gonna be authorized ?
For swearing an oath to the constitution the cops in the game clearly donāt care about honoring it. Good job void for making the game accurate to real life
Yeah Iām convinced our guy didnāt listen to ANY tapes in the missions
@pine canyon what maps can you defend the people of
Just list em all I want a laugh
California is the LARGEST state, with some states around it having less strict laws. Itās probably easy as fuck to smuggle it in. Have you ever been to CA? Thereās aloooooooot of open stretches of land with nothing
IT IS NOT LOL
In game it is
Texas, Alaska
Where the fuck it is stated?
But you didn't deny it being illegal š
We donāt know if thatās canon in this game
Oml
It is still America bro, it never mentions wars

Same arguement can be applied to your claim of California being the biggest
Most except the first and the dlc ones
So you can defend relapse and neon?
Yes
Peak "I use what benefits my opinions and disregard anything that destroys my pov"
dude actual ragebait
Ok how was the mass shootings and bombing of neon and relapse ok?
Dude the only state we know is canon in ready or not is California.
I told you it was ragebait š
Iām not rage baiting. Iāve platinumed the game and have replayed missions over and over, listening to lore and learning
alt F4 is your friend
The dude can ragebait anybody
Sure buddy š and how does that impact the illegality of the weapons seen in game š
Ok please explain your justification for the hands actions
Which missions is the hands. I deleted it after I platinumed a few weeks
I don't think a single person at VOID would have anticipated an individual taking this away from their game š
Or maybe you have been reading it wrong and this is their intention? Yāall are so closed minded
And this guy said he read lore
Now tell us you can justify Leviathan
I did when I was platinuming it. As I said itās been a few weeks
Like it literally deals with the most horrific stuff and dude was like, yuh Amos did nothing wrong š
you did not\
Neon and relapse, the ones with mass piles of bodies and bombs strapped to civilians and hospitals
Iāll show proof in the ready or not pic channel
There is no amount of time that can make you think Relapse and Neon Tomb are morally right š
There
This guy said every mission is ok apart from gas and DLC missions
Let me explain
Like holy stupid take
@pine canyon also once youāre done with explaining neon and relapse, go ahead and justify elephant for me too
So relapse is the hospital map. We can really take this map as a symbol of Israel vs Palestine, either the cops being idf and āsuspectsā being Palestine. America destroyed their home, I forgot which fictional country in game it was but they wrote in on the wall.
Watch him justify Leviathan
You cannot ragebait me š¹ šā¤ļøāš©¹
Wait, but how do you know Israel and Palestine are canon in game?
Because thereās a bomber that says free Palestine
Where?
Relapse
Not even a real line

The ragebait keeps getting worse š
Leviathan is an easy one to explain to
What about elephant
THERE ARE INNOCENT WORKERS HUNG UNDER THE PLATFORM š
Oh this one is gonna be something š
I was thinking of the cultist map my bad. I havenāt played dlc naps yet
alright, justify the UPF, you cant
Dude I gotta go but I wanna stay this is too funny
you see this shit right?
yeah yeah, we know he didnt already
But elephant to me most likely seemed like a shooting drill. You know how some schools do live practice things to simulate ?
you do realize you're feeding a troll?
Dude I sent a screenshot in the pic channel, u want another picture?
its not yours, shush
Anyone elseās loadouts randomly delete all the time?
It literally is š
Amos Voll next gangbang when ?
"I havent played dlc maps yet" By You
10 miles down the road from Los suenos middle school
AH YES
THE SHOOTING DRILL WITH LIVE GUNS?
Oh okay then !
Those were blanks, every time I played the mission I never took damage so I donāt think itās real bullets
No shooting drills have people acting bro itās just an alarm
Thatās false
Yes, what about the bodies in the lecture hall?
UTM with red paint
And the shot officer? And blood across the floors?
@pine canyon Please open your window a bit and take a deep breath before you continue.
Its getting weird.
That was ketchup
Itās not my fault the devs donāt know common sense writing
Heās been tryna justify hide and seek, twisted nerve, elephant, Amos voll, leviathan etc
what are we arguing about š
^ @karmic shale
you were asking him to do so
Basically Amos Voll is rage baiting
Funny coming from you but aight.
Iām not rage baiting.
But his claims make no sense
that's called trolling
He said the women in hide and seek couldāve just ran out
Just mute him like I did
WE OPENED THE DOOR
And the auction was for mannequins
schools don't bring even false weapons into them
THERE WERE 100 MANNEQUINS IN THAT AREA
You guys donāt have the ability to connect the dots š
And the half naked women
Yk, just forget about them
the need for attention seek is diabolical
Why did they stay when the door was opened
āSharing your opinion of a games writing in the games discord is diabolicalā
May aswell just block atp
Galaxy brain take tbh š
confidently incorrect is crazy lmao
Whyād I even download discord
youre not even making sense, stfu
I spend all day talking to people with claims like this
Heās ragebaiting lol
Please explain how Iām not making sense. I did a wedge only S run of the game, im familiar with the story dude
Ik but itās genuinely like half ragebait half idiocy
On god Iām not rage baiting

His name is literally the most hated and evil character in the game lol are you surprised heās trolling
Did you shove the wedges down the suspectsā throats out of muscle memory ?ā¦
you said you did platinum, yet you didnt even play DLCs
TEAM TIME IS RUNNING OUT
i was gonna say the same thing
Donāt need to for ps5 platinum
am i reading this correctly
Imma make my username George Brixley or Marin and say the Tran family are monsters who deserve everything that happened to them and also The Spider did nothing wrong
After the devs changed the lore Iām an advocate for his innocence
check his hard drive š
Dude you seriously donāt, want a picture ?
Ah yes, the "small censoring ruined whole game, literally unplayable" guy
He says that due to censoring everyone is innocent practically
we still have those? shit
Bro I donāt care about the censorship Iām embracing it
If I hate the game so much why would I platinum it?
you need to play DLC to platinum
š
Go back Iāll show more proof
Reddit RoN players when they canāt see naked women : 
how is this fun for people
more like when they cant see naked gerard scott
You can tell where did Amos came from
Go look
Hey cāmon now that broke the entire game !
You literally do not
Any1 know what the best AR is?
you literally do
Go look at the screenshot
I can't believe people see trolling, warn others about the troll, and then start feeding the troll š¤¦āāļø
Gotta love the āAny opinion that disagrees with me is a trollā guy
okay, then why are there achievements for DLCs if you dont have to play them for platinum
literally everyone is saying you're wrong dude hang it up š
why mods cant just ban rage baiters and trolls
Because thereās sub categories of achievements. It literally takes 5 seconds to check this on your own
The DLCs achivements are under sub categories
Any1 know what the best AR is for CQC
Gotta love the "Post anything that most of the people here will disagree with so that I can continue the pointless argument" with someone who apparently does not know how the internet works so they'll keep asking for more and somehow expect to convince the troll that he's wrong
platinum is every achievement is it not
Mk18
Not for sub categories
You are not ready then twin
Why
Yeah that's literally it
All the achievement of the base game
On PS5, you donāt need to earn the DLC trophies to get the Platinum; just the base game is enough
Apparently Iām a troll that should be banned for saying this
He is correct about one thing:
You do not need to purchase the DLCs to earn the Platinum trophy in Ready or Not on PS5. The Platinum trophy is tied exclusively to the base game and its 39 trophies.
Is it the same for Xbox?
idk im on ps5
Cyberpunk pfp??
no platinum on xbox
yes
One of the good things about Console achivements manager then Steam
Why is my opinion of a video game story not valid? I paid for the game, Iāve platinumed it, and have my own opinion and now am being crucified for it š
Cause you do throw in hot takes intentionally.
Is debating not allowed here? Iām being civil, just stating my interpretation of the game
The story would've been told properly and there would be no disagreements but unfortunately it looks like the resources have been used to create more bugs
I simply and nicely asking you just to stop throwing in hot takes intentionally, such as "Elephant is just a drill" and others.
Thank you.
Are any of the missions drills lore wise?
Do you think there are?
I mean I thought elephant was but Iām being corrected
Fantastic.
I appreciate the correction if I was wrong
You are welcome.
I can kinda get your take (kinda) but in the greased palms post office iirc you can find something about the Watt Community College shooting
Idk, all assault rifles are more or less the same with minor differences. Can't really have underrated or overrated ar's in ron when they are the same shit, use what you find cool and comfortable. I'd say that objectively speaking f90 and arn180 are just better than most ar's due to their very low recol
In case the Elephant mission itself isnāt enough to tell you that itās no drill, not to mention the evidence from the mission š
Police practice drills all the time though
what about the bombs
Oh yeah of course they do hence why I said I can get your take, but thereās environmental storytelling in other missions that mention the shooting so it most definitely wasnāt a drill
Yes police also practice with bombs
live bombs. that blow up.
Including in Greased Palms Iām pretty sure
A couple weeks ago there was an explosion at an LA sherif office that weāre practicing with live explosives
Or another map iām not too sure ; but thereās definitely something about donation for the shooting
do we know if they blow up? I haven't tested it but I think that it doesn't matter how long it takes you to complete the mission, they won't blow up
no, they blow up
every time one of my squadmates blocks me from exiting a door i wana blow them away
GET OUT OF THE FKN DOOR WAY!!!
Holy damn, the real Yanagi?
Apparently !
š¤
Watch it, or i'll tira your misu.
che cazzo
there was this guy who bought ron and when he downloaded it, it was the 2024 version LOL
What
Welcome to the server, 4chan user
Are there secret rules to the Fool Me Twice achievement? I've done it 3x now but still haven't unlocked it.
Just clear all floors and then start defusing one bomb and go across the bridge to the second one (they are all on 3rd floor)
Do I have to clear all the rest first? What I've done is cleared up to the 2nd bomb and then gone back and diffused both of them back to back
And also defuse bombs last on relapse cause timer is so long just donāt bother defusing until all suspects been dealt with. Thatās how I did and got it first try
Yeah so I've been totally uninterrupted each time
Finally got way out west which did seem to have extra rules than I thought which is why I'm asking
But it kinda sounds like I'm doing it right so idk
@twilit mulch done with achievement long time ago, just wanted to show to Amos Voll that he ain't the one and special one
any tips for relapse? i take the underground entrance but at one point i always lose a officer right after i cross the bridge thing
Spawn at the other spawn point instead so you clear that other building first rather then taking the bridge building area last. Iāve had more luck with avoiding getting shot at the bridge
You can shoot suspects on the windows before crossing
yes i know but i didn't encounter them on the sky bridge itself
Why are my AIs flashbangs killing people

You have the Mk18
Mr Kaminsky
Can we get a proper ak rifle please
What? Flashbangs don't even deal damage š
0.05 
Apparently from general discussion the shoulder mounted flash launcher is broken and lethal
Make a clip of that if you can
Flashbang 40mm deals only 0.15 damage if exploded in 1m radius of target
I missed the window to get the clip, but I'm sure it'll happen again, they've killed multiple people today alone
Don't use explosives
I told them to clear the room with the flash launcher and 3 dudes died when the flash went off š¤·āāļø
They've been working fine for my s rank run and commander up until now
That would explain some things
Anyone know a good lethal gun/loadout for the sleeper agent achievement? Iāve been trying for a whole week with my friend and we still havenāt gotten it.
I'm shocked
WHY DO I LAG WHEN I PLAY NA WEST BUT DONāT LAG ON NA EAST EVEN THOUGH I LIVE IN THE WEST ?????????????
Why not just play east then
Thatās what I just implied. This game is back to being goofy
i saw suspect do shimmy on Elysian again, oh god
Bro I was trying to find the last suspect and this dude was flying while in a T-pose towards me and I jumped out of my chair š š š
It happened so fast
Game fr said: "no"
Helicopter
You know what would be a cool mission. Judge saving his wife in kids in a kidnapping. Itās implied he has a wife with the wedding band cosmetic and that he has kids with the childrenās bracelet one as well. It would be a very unique mission and add to the story, though it would take away from judges mysterious backstory we know basically nothing of.
Jude is my fav officer
I mean you play as him so canāt see why he wouldnāt be
Itās judge š
Fuck
Silly goose
Always been bad with grammar 
Nah I wish his name was jude. Way more tough than judge
Just a full solo mission?
does anyone know what the soft objectives for port hokan are?
Whatās the hard objectives again?
the usual + locate weapon storage container
or illegal drugs storage container not sure
Auction house too
Maybe if so I would say it would be like lethal obsession. Two very good fighters going at it one on one. Judge looking for his family while the kidnapper sneaks around the house trying to get the drop on you
yeah auction thing i found i think i need the women container
Outside to the left of the warehouse, near the smaller buildings with the fenced windows
DAMN YOU FRIENDLY FIRE
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
š what map
Buy cheep buy twice
I opend the door to the inner double backs stairs thing and there was 5 of the bad guys
LUCKY i have a grenade lau ncher
Unlucky i hit my squad

Il just do it again and do it better
Iām gonna try get all achievements on ready or not once Ive gotten more used to guns
Iām dreading Ironman, hopefully by the time I get there AI will get better
My aim absolutely SUCKS cuz Iām used to arcade-ish gun systems
Ok auto mod THAT OBJECT IS IN THE GAME
What do you want from me???
The hardest part of the game so far is the insta kill stuff
Self blow up vests (I detest i have to censor this word) and Door bombs
jude?
seriously?
Yeah, my accuracy is 4 on general stats š safe to say, guns are unforgiving in this game
I have better pistol accuracy then I do rifle..
Thing I struggle most with is hitting where I want to, I aim chest and then I get shot at and panic and hit less lethal areas š
And I thought my 30 accuracy was horrendous 
Like I aim chest, someone swings and I kill them. Upon further inspection Iāve hit a ton of arm and leg shots but no chest

That's literally harder than hitting the chest š
fr also afaik judge isn't even his real name
Dude I just PANIC and start randomly shooting
its john judge beanmouth or whatever
yea yea
As soon as Iām shot at, if Iām not close and pre aiming I miss so much
correct its just a nickname which we do not know how he got currently. his actual name is David
Iām too used to cod guns and being so forgiving
I'm doing iron man on standard for the hermit and honestly if you have a good loadout it might just work out well enough
Yeah as I say
Gotta practise my gun skills before I try that, AI just donāt return fire soemtikes
so the one thing to keep in mind for iron man mode if youre trying to get that watch is the missions dont have to be S tier complete so go buck wild
Oh no no this game doesn't allow for any mistake at all sometimes š
It'll teach you quick what it expects out of you
Case in point, the traps on Ides of March
C+ right? Cuz that means all hard objectives done
yea
Iām good with traps and everything else, just my aim SUCKS
This is why in multiplayer I opt to be the shield
Yeah as long as your staff stays alive who gives a damn and isn't stressed
Go crazy, kill everyone
And I tend to play a more support role, tossing flashes and picking up guns after people
See you might need to ditch that actually because if you don't get shoved as point, you'll just stay horrible with a rifle
And you need rifle skills
honeslty just use smgs or semi auto rifles usually pretty easy control
Iām good at close quarters, but when people swing me when Iām not prepared I canāt aim for crap
You want to know how I got these scars
And for some reason my pistol accuracy is way better
My rifle is like 10, and my pistol like 40-60
Tell me do you use semi auto on rifles ?
Yes
The only times I use auto is when my squad mate is getting absolutely sprayed at close range
But then what's with holding a rifle š and making you magically horrible š
You play mouse and keyboard or controller btw ?
Controller
Idk maybe cuz I use rifle for longer range more
Donāt you still need a minimum score like better than D or something?
And Iāve been playing a lot of hide and seek recently so maybe thatās decreased it a bit with the range..
yes but as long as you complete all objs you automatically get that score. My point is you can mag dump every suspect on iron man and still get the watch (as long as they arent HVTs you need to arrest) as long as none of your boys die youre gucci
I mean my accuracy also goes to crap with when Iām getting shot my I go practically blind
Ohhh ok nice
use free lean mroe often if you dont
I donāt cuz Iām worried about getting headshotted when I do that
Actually maybe using a 7.62x51mm rifle might just be some help
Because on standard 1-2 shots will get you a dead suspect
Also yeah no rifles are for everything, the pistol is the backup
free lean helps you to not get headshotted, you can free lean in any direction including very low to the ground to take cover
I tend to use SR-16 or ARN-180
Free lean is god tier
I finally started using it after seeing people so it in hard runs but like DAMN is it so much better
I tend to use my pistol a lot cuz the .45 ACP is quite good
the ability to cover down, peak over objects/ low peak corners is a god send
Just get a higher caliber rifle if you like it so much,
7.62 or .300 blackout might just be for you
(I have never used blackout I have no clue how it feels)
I use blackout on the ARN
it has little recoil but honestly it feels the same as 5.56 to me
you should really try the smgs
Iām still dropping people in 2-3 shots like I did with the SR-16
And I tend to just use AP so thereās no difference really
Your situation is so puzzling to me š
Also yeah SMGs might help
Get like a higher caliber like 5.7x28mm if you want some armor piercing I guess
Does PC have more maps than console?
Nope, unless you count mods then technically it does
(If I'm not mistaken)
Ok thank yew
maps are all the same amount besides custom modded maps
Youāre the same as me..
love the USP and SR-16 with same setup
I did try the mk17 on relapse and bro I was aiming at chest and then above his head when I shoot š I just hit a ton of accidental headshots
Are you using an optic ? And from what distance approximately?
shooting is like real life your sight is not a laser beam
bullets come from barrel not your sight keep that in mind if youre going for risky shots on suspects holding hostages
Like Iām at the back of a stack and they just opened the door and heās right there
Holo sight
Yeah your sight is zeroed at a certain distance
Which means that it meets your barrel's fire line at that distance (right?)
I wish you could change the zero icl
That's troubling š
Like I don't get it š
But the recoil made it so I shot this chest then head
Crazy recoil from the 7.62x51
correct
I mean unless you're trying to snipe people on Valley of The Dolls which I totally don't do then I don't see why it'd be an issue
considering most engagements in this game happen within at most 50 meters its not really necessary
It may help on hide and seek a bit
its basically one of the only maps besides the oil rig on dark waters so it would just be very niche. Besdies there isnt really a point considering you cant even have variable zoom scopes/no sniper vantage points on basically all maps
Even on there you can just learn and adapt and be able to understand your rifle
im telling you hayden i think you would have a much easier time rn using an smg
theyre way more forgiving if you are caught off guard becasue you can usually run them in full auto no issues
Full auto SMG?
yes most smgs are very easy to control recoil wise
Yeah it just sounds like you panic too much to be precise and surgical
And SMGs are literally just for that purpose
Pumping lead into anything there
Idk man š I aināt good with full auto
just try out a bunch of guns on the range in the armory and see what you like
Yeah I panic cuz my whole screen goes red from a single bullet which kinda makes it hard to aim with that sway from bleeding
i dont actually like the mp5 at all ngl
Yeah unfortunately that's just a thing you have to deal with
I usually just try my best to aim through it or retreat to cover
Because if you get shot, sometimes you might have been a little too brave
the smgs I use are the mp7, ump, p90, or the SPC 9
Yeah, kinda impossible in the VOD catwalk
dont ever go on the catwalk its a deathtrap
That's cause it's 9x19mm and the enemies have body armor
And 9mm is really bad against armor
Which is why some use the P90 with 5.7x28mm that is better at that
What does the UMP have
two variants, a 9mm or the 45 acp which is my go to for it since it hits like a truck
That catwalk is a death trap, I never go on it, I clear one side then walk all the way around and clear the other side
9mm is only decent against armor if you bring AP rounds with a high capacity smg so you can dump have a mag fast (like the spc 9 or the mp7)
I go on it thinking I can get across and then I get headshotted
It's fine with a shield I've never died on it
Iāve died plenty with the shield
thats generally the go to layout of the map, is you go down that one staircase with the glass wall, wedge it, and than backtrack all the way back and go down the outside stairs to the other floor yeah @spiral tundra
On the catwalk
Cuz whenever I cross with the shield thereās one on the stairs too
dont ever go on the catwalk its a deathtrap always
seriously wedge the one door which has the glass wall and than backtrack all the way back to the outside staircase and go in to the second floor
Alr
Well I donāt think ima be playing it all too much seeing I got the Hawaiian shirt earlier anyway
fair enoguh
The patio was HELL with non lethal a
i cant stand the shorts man, i wish you could take off the tactical leggings underneath lol
Fr, and just make it black or hawaiiian style shorts
A fatal funnel should really be avoided if you can honestly @spiral tundra
Ruins the whole fit
theyre fucking useless. they need to actual implement variable zoom scopes
Or offset, flip off sights
most maps are way too cqb to say have a 12x sight at all times. it drives me nuts that even the labeled variable zoom scopes you cant actually change the zoom
Ngl Iād love to see under shirt armour
(Def not saying this for Hawaiian shirt)
challenge run, hard missions with a 12 x scope on the m14 nothing else
And full auto
Oh hell no š
Youāre just gonna be 12x looking at the ceiling
You're just gonna have to cant the rifle forever š
no canting just pure 12x bliss
OH F*CK OFFš
Also you canāt use ANY tactical, not even wire cutters
If thereās a tripwire too bad
And you gotta play lethal obesssion
On hard
nah too much, can use tacticals but only to help arrest suspects that you have to
Y'all are psychos 
S tiering Greased palmes was enough to make me realize i like pain
Most annoying thing with shields
AI decide they wanna spray the glass so you canāt see anything
Yeah playing this game has made me realize I got issues š
I mean it feels amazing to pass it
I found relapse way harder tbh
crazy
How
Still haven't S tiered Ides of March or Valley of the Dolls
Ngl I dreaded relapse at first
But itās became a fairly easy map to me
Ides and VoD are actually really easy to S tier if you know what youre doing
Greased palms is hard and difficult in an ok way but relapse when I played it was just stupidly hard and frustrating maybe it was just me
I play quite aggressive on ides icl
Itās so close quarters so I can just kill everything straight away
See I had a hard time with Neon Tomb but I literally did Greased Palm and got an A on my first try while I used Non Lethal with my AI
This game is so weird š
greased palmes is hard and difficult because of the ai wall bangs and wall hacks.
relapse is hard because the suspects are very well armed and decently trained.
Neon tomb was my worst enemy
AI run off and explode everyone
I got headshotted across the dance floor and hallway to it by a pistol on standard
nah not crazy. I s tiered neon tomb on my first try deadass
once you know the decent layout path to go and if you have enough wedges its not too much of an issue
I still canāt tell if this was just pure luck or the AI having insane aim as usual
wedges are mandatory to making neon tomb much easier imo
I'm starting to reconsider to play kawayu beach lethally.
oh ends of earth?
The guys there ain't that bad after all