#š®ron-discussion
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they are way faster, but gas lasts longer and has a bigger area
suspects can walk out of gas however
Ahh so its more map based im guessing
Flashbangs are consistent, you can't go wrong with them
Stingers are like less-than-lethal frag grenades without the cool explosion
Gas makes sure the room is empty, or at least filled with compliant suspects
Eh, bring which one gets you the best result
Ahh ok.. I'll stick with flashes and stingers for a few missions.. then try switching one of them up for gas
Good to hear
see what works.. Thanks man
just stick with one
you dont want your character ranfomly pulling out whatever he feels like
understood..
cs has the smallest radius of all 3
does it? it's even worse than i thought 
CS works for me so Idc about stats
cs grenade fans when the suspects are in the open and not inside some small room
s-ranking isn't that hard if you're doing multiplayer
I played with mods for so long I forgot how bad vanilla cs is

Is there even a mod that makes cs usable
its crazy how bad cs got nerfed on 1.0
Imagine trying to balance a PVE game in which you should have the advantage smh
left 4 dead
the reason that game is timeless is because the balancing is superb
it also feels great to play
Yeah, but you're against the horde of zombies not guys with guns
doesn't mean the devs shouldn't consider how the game plays
RON has a severe lack of balance and a place for everything in the game
sure we can add 50 guns that perform the same, doesn't mean we should
The "player choice" in the game is: do you run the gun that is good or do you run the guns that are worse?
Do you run the grenade that instantly surrenders suspects or the one that doesn't?
do you run the armor that works or the one that doesn't?
do you run nvgs for free or do you just not
That's mainly why i tell people to use whatever, because figuring out that half of the stuff in the game just has no function makes it feel so much worse
Eyyy, that kind of hate about my baby is unnecessary
Not my fault it's worse than the flux
atleast the flux has 0 recoil
Last time I uses it the mp5/10 wasn't that bad
Just SMGs in general have a lot of horizontal recoil
Cuz Boid cannot into recoil
and your character has noodle arms with every single gun
I pick equipment based on aura as the kids say
Screw optimising loadouts and meta
I want to dress in the 90s drip and use an mp5
So the cellar in Neon tomb says he locked himself in the cellar but where is that?? We never see or find a cellar/ basement level
It might have an enterance from the back of the club
We don't know how the building looks outside the enterance area, chances are the back of the club has a fence or something and the basement is accessible through there.
I'm just using my imagination, idk
Wonder if he ever got found down there
I mean... duh
Also was everything from supporter edition added? That was promised
98% of the items came to supporters at some point
Remaining items never got added
They were some minor stuff tho innit?
Idk if I would call them minor stuff
I just don't remember well lol
Most important stuff got added anyways so
What's the missing stuff then
Just a diff coloured variant of the old HRT outfit
Ranger green I believe it was
Shown on old promo art for SE
Ehhh the old hrt outfit sucked ass anyways
Just curious as to why they never used the crye zip on 2.0 from the assets they got for hrt
where's the entryman 590 
It exists
I have it on a loadout
i dunno about that one
Wait they got rid of the entryman?
Idk which exact variant Desmond is talking about but there is one supporter shotgun variant
Thatās always been in since SE became a thing
Yeah I also recall just one
And apparently a coyote uniform
Thatās the one Iām talking about
Only 2 variants were ever planned to be made
The standard multicam one that we got and the green one that never made it
How do we deal with the game when we either don't find any more civs/hostiles to subdue or when the game straight up bugs out? Restart mission?
If you canāt find last person you havenāt looked hard enough
If game bugs out it depends on what kind of bugs youāre encountering
Right! Am in Neon Tomb and spamming the search room command for dear life š will run more circles
On the other hands the swat AI seems to not want to search more rooms, they don't move when the command is issued. Oh well
Because they donāt have anything to find
aha interesting ty
Basically if youāve already detained or secured everything that youāve found so far they wonāt do anything else if you tell them to search the room
So i was just playing a lethal obsession and i looked under one of the doors with an optiwand that gerard just so happened to be standing behind....
I got an eyeful of something i DID NOT need to see gng š š
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it's a b1301 shotgun in the game, supporter traile and the preorder showed a 590 
Wheres the option to give this man some pants
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So 2% of items never arrived
So I was right
that's more like almost a quarter 
maybe if you want to mention the coyote and camo fbi hrt uniforms
maybe even the first expansion (the game didn't get any)
I count Hi as expansion so that doesnāt count
2% accounts for the other HRT uniform and the shotty
Everything was added at some point
it's a 3 mission dlc
And expands on the game
with like no new mechanics
It expands on the game so much they gave dark waters out too 
I donāt recall expansions doing that
But everyone has own opinions so I canāt argue with that
SWAT 4: The Stetchkov Syndicate adds a new campaign with half the level count of the original, adds punching, holding commands, lightsticks, adds completely new weapons, VOIP, etc.
Maybe a bit much, how about battlefield 2's expansion which adds : 8 maps, 6 new factions, grappling hooks, NVGs, tear gas, etc.
expansions are usually known to bring pretty sweeping changes and that was the plan originally with different departments as per ye olde FAQ
So they lock certain features behind expansions?
Yeah, like dark waters did 
I mean itās being added later to maps
And also I wouldnāt call animations really features since they donāt alter gameplay that much
The main difference with what i mentioned is those features were usually pretty good
in dark waters we have the chopper locked behind playing those levels
The choppers is not really that game changing
Most of the time it just gives you pointless info
The times it is useful is so small that it wouldnāt change the outcome of the mission besides maybe being bit faster score time
yeah it's terrible
all it really needed is to be accessible through the t menu
maybe tell us building sides and levels rather than compass direction, not everyone has that enabled
So it being locked behind paywall like itās a massive feature is kinda not true lol
It is still a feature that's locked behind a paywall, much like the expansions that were originally planned
So realistically, swat can't lock pick yes?
And also realistically it's faster to just shoot the door open
It depends on the door, but SWAT operators aren't trained by default to locksmith
I mean compared to VOIP stuff or whatever you mentioned is very different stuff when it comes to locking stuff behind a paywall
They need to add a proximity check to the game and then push to talk to use comms trying to coordinate in game voice chat while you're clearing a room and having to hold down a button to talk is silly
hey does anyone know if well have to make some sort of account for crossplay when it releases or will it be like a lobby key thing
I don't think we have anything on that yet
But NVG is cool š„¹
hoping its just a lobby key thing would rather not have a whole nerw in game friends list
They need to give us the ability to cut power on maps
Useless mechanic for no benefit besides immersion
Wdym it would give you an advantage over enemies
They would need to rewrite whole AI for it to work tho
Again...
Ehhh just make them less accurate and react slower
Plus they would have to rebuild every single map because of how they're made
No point in cutting off power if Ai will have same vision and reaction in complete darkness
And like raccoon said, they would have to make all maps all over again 2 times due to how they use lighting in the game
Basically useless for nothing besides making it cool
And even if the AI would be rebuild to be compatible with the darkness n shit, upon hearing you they'll know where u are at any time anyways
It's why running a suppressor is also useless
Ai see you as good in darkness as if nothing is there
Thatās why NvGS also are useless on swat Ai
Itās just visual
worrying about whats good bad or useless in a coop swat sim game is crazy work
Well that just sounds like an issue on voids part
Why does all Ai know exactly where you are if they hear you
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It's just how AI is man 
Even ground branch that has option to cut power doesnāt even do anything
The Ai react as good as if daytime
It's not as simple to program AI from scratch
tbf ground branch is a joke of a game
Also valid!
18 years in development baby!
Itās nothing to do with good or bad, itās just borderline useless feature unless you actually make it have a effect on gameplay
god the game is more pathetic than i thought
As much as I dislike ground branch It's still a game made by like one guy and few friends whenever they have free time
This is a bs lie
AI in games was way more simple cuz it wasn't as advanced as it is today, so there's that too
GB team is in the tens now
Oh really?
I think they are same size as void and have been for a long time
Well it was like what I said just few years ago 
and theyre still ass
Whaaat, ain't no way
I mean tbf they have been pushing out updates more and more recently
when the ai isnt lobotomized then ill look at it with more than a passing glance
Nah the AI COULD be better
But I mean yeah it would need a rework
Yeah I didn't disagree here, just said it's not that easy to make ai from scratch then constantly change it lol
Trust me, AI rn is way better than it used to be during Early Access days
As much as I love to shit on void, they at least improved here
ive next to zero complaints with void they are doing phenominal
They could improve on their communication tbh
But I don't have high hopes at all these days
modern dating makes any form of communication seem like a godsend /s
Fr fr
lmao
Is way out west still bugged?
what?
short answer, yes
"This town aint big enough for the both of us" ahh achievement
Bugged in what way?
In the way of me completing the achievement and not getting it
Even though i did 357 ONLY
I got s rank and non of my officers use shields
How you get S rank with 357?
They all kept surrenduring idk 
Doesnāt matter anyway I guess, no shields allowed or anything only 357 and c grade minimum
If it doesnāt pop then you gotta keep trying
Some of them are very notorious for taking few tries to pop
I dont use shieldssss
None of my officers do either
I just gave them all fuckin pepperball m4s and flashbangs
I emptied 3
Not just shoot up into the sky and hit Jesus
Yet you somehow got S rank still?
Kept kneecapping the adamant ones
Uh huh.
And they kept faking deaths
If you really wanna try then give teammates all 357 and only pistol ammo and go like that
Even if it shouldnāt matter
But like I said buggy
"This town aint big enough for the both of us" š“
they'll know because they're part of the game. They always know everything. The way to make good AI is 'negative'. You need to ADD visual and audio impairness, restrictions to movement and fire effectiveness, low accuracy, etc. To humanize AI is to make it *less * capable
you need to code in all the restrictions and limitations. Whatever it is you DON'T code in, will result in 'godlike' behavior from it
the most basic things like movement speed, collision, tracking, and fire after sight can all be implemented by default settings in a lot of engine plugins for AI. The good things though, will need a lot of work
Does anyone know where updates are posted about the soft objectes bug in the dorms and twisted nerves map?
or are these already fixed?
which makes them even more of a joke
Still a issue
Hopefully will be solved with the coming update
Are these posted in #patch-notes ?
But youāll know about it once update comes out
Itās impossible to not know:)
Well, not gonna try those maps again until the fix XD
You can circumvent it atm with mods only
Otherwise yeah gotta wait until itās fixed
why is the fire button for officers grayed out? 
You know elephant isnt actually that bad if you move quickly
Especially given the fact that sprinting IS kinda in the game
ready or not?
sprinting in question is walking in low ready which is 0.01% faster than walking normally
How tf does one S rank Valley
I was fully non lethal, I even got that scumfuck Amos alive and conscious and got all the evidence
Still didnāt get an S rank
Did you get soft objectives?
i just started playing game (in SP) and am i wrong to think that some accessories and such are just better than others?
Like i was looking and it feels like wearing no helmet is worse than normal helmet which is worse than ballistic helmet, is that the case?
Thereās the photos and the basement
All helmets have same protection stats I believe
So wearing a diff helmet is just cosmetic
weird because helmet desc is "simple helmet" while ballistic says "able to stopmost small bullets" and the likes
Itās just filler text
fair enough
Its a little bit faster but yeah
Dont play with random teammates
Shoot anything that wears black
THE COLOUR THE COLOUR
i'm doing solo rn
I mean like the bolton guys secret service brixleys guys and shit
like fr?
Im not joking, most of the suspects in the game wear black or very dark clothing, school shooters, bolton security company, brixley talent time private security, rogue us secret service agents....
and i'm guessing most NOT bad guys don't wear black
Of course there are exceptions but very dark clothing is the norm
Ehhh, most of em yeah
so it's more like don't shoot white clothing, prepare to shoot to black clothing
question, is the SP forgiving in the sense of save, reloading save files and such?
found out the C2 can actually kill the player, i fucked around and found out
Maybe if you stand on the wrong side of the door
ĀÆ_(ć)_/ĀÆ
Never happened to me idk
Idk what you mean but unless you play commander mode iron man. You can die and start back where you left off however many times you want
yeah game says things about teammates dying and such, i'm just wondering if i can redo missions to make sure no one dies and the likes
i'm not looking to get all S ranks and the likes but i'd rather avoid killing half my squad on a stupid mistake
That doesnāt matter yeah like I said unless youāre playing iron man mode or going for the achievements where you canāt lose someone
thx
Does anything interesting happen if suspects find other cuffed suspects?
No
according to the therapist note i gave one of my dudes PTSD by executing every suspect
to avoid killing suspects i should just shoot the leg if they resist right?
if you want to avoid killing suspects maybe shooting them with a gun isn't entirely the best idea
i mean i don't even know what else i can do to them
assuming i'm not extremely close
beanbags provided you don't pepper the fuck out of them or hit their head
flashbangs or stingers make them more likely to surrender too
pepperball guns probably work but people complain about them
Doesnāt our own squad usually wear black tho
Eh well you see uhh..... about that umm.....
I believe so
Well you clearly did something wrong if you didnāt get the S
I shot Amos Voll point blank in the head cause my run got messed up and I didnāt care about getting an S rank anymore and then TOC told my teammates to kill me lol
Probably but I have no idea what it couldāve been that specific run
I even avoided using stingers just so there wouldnāt be accidental friendly fire
Next time send a screenshot of the end screen and I can try and find what you missed
Aiight
The run I did just now didnāt go quite as well. One of my officers got murked and then I decided āfuck itā and started killing lol
Is there an in universe explaination as to who the 4th shooter in elephant is?
We got the 3 mentally unstable amigos, archie, albert, and chase, and then theres just....greg....he joined for the hell of it
Wait a minute
Does your rank go down if an officer gets injured? Not dead, just injured?
No
They can get their balls blown off but as long as theyre standing and holding a gun s rank is still in the door
Ah ok
Fuck I had a really good run going just now but then two security guards just shredded me tf up with gunfire
Wher
Stairs around the outdoor entrance (not the basement stairs, but lower area in the regular house with the glass walls)
Yeah but where? In diddys house?
They were around the corner and just when I thought I got one of em the other pops out as Iām restraining
And yeah itās the diddy mansion level lol
I got just the advice for ya
So you know how most bolton guys are ex military right?
Yea?
Flashbangs,c2, and stingers
Yea I jus didnāt see them coming
What gun you use?
Beanbag shotgun
...well that complicates fuckin things....
Uhhhhh
I was just gonna recommend switching to full auto but like
Okey doke
Iām tryna s-rank so I gotta go non-lethal
Aaaaaand there goes another run cause a mf just shot me through one of those bigass windows lmao
Oh mi amigo i got just the mod for u
Interestingā¦
Iāll have to check it out hehe
Are you soloing it or using the AI?
The AI lol
Which mission?
Valley of the Dolls
Lmaooo
Ohh, I just planned a route and used a TON of gas grenades. Beanbag for farther range of course
Valley of the doll is quite easy when you go down and then go from there
Itās usually the backyard thatās somewhat difficult due to range
My fellow officers, theres no need to torture yourselves trying to take everyone alive
Just get no mercy for terrorists and roleplay a realistic lapd
Im pretty sure they shot more people last year than las vegas metro š š
Cool
Iām gonna try to enter through the lower entrance
Didnāt they used to only allow you to go through the front door
I also like to use a good amount of wedges, makes it so they canāt get behind
Theres one starting point but you can infiltrate through the party enterance yeah
Also wild that one of the missions thatās hardest to S rank is the one where you really really donāt want to let the suspects live lol
Or knock on the front door like a real man im just saying 
Thatās what I usually do

Ahh I mistakenly thought the lower entrance was a new thing
Nah, it's been there forever, right to the main enterance
Go down the stairs, from there you access the lower floors
I couldāve sworn it was blocked off before in previous versions tho I guess I got that wrong
Not gon cap
I would prolly hit daniella voll ngl

Maybe not her ingame model though only the posters and shit
Iād probably hit
Her with hollow point rounds
(If she knows what her husbandās up to, and it seems like she does and has no issue with it)
Oh yeah shes definitley involved in his diddy activities
Kinda wierd though
Like imagine knowing your husband has a fetish for kids and supporting it cuh
Thats crazy š
Fr Fr
Fuck it I give up on trying to s rank this imma just play missions however I want for fun
Ready or Not
theres all kinds of mods out there but not a mod that adds Multicam Tropic lol.......
do yall know what Janey Voll's diary says? I can barely read the cursive
upload a picture and we can try! :)
Looking for a mission reward unlockable. Should be S rank on Valley of the Dolls for a pink polo shirt (very tourist-y). Can't find it anywhere though - could it have been a fever dream?
I dont have image perms
https://imgur.com/ works š just upload and share the link
oh, i thought dark waters had more than 3 missions
and i did everything right on all of them but only A, A and B because this game hates when the player uses lethal force
Damn I had a pretty good run on Valley but somehow all of my assault rifle shots missed Amos and he capped me
is there a way to switch to helmet cam in replay mode
lol I remember
sleeper agent solo is not possible
sleeper agent solo is not possible
sleeper agent solo is not possible
I would rather S-rank post office with no AI with just a taser 5 times perfectly in a row than ever have to attempt getting sleeper agent again
I would rather s-rank every map with my eyes closed
i would rathe do neon tomb with only pepper spray
I would rather do hosptial with nothing but a grenade launcher
whys the fire officer button greyed out? Iāve resorted to sending them to their deaths for replacements lmao
I wish I could send all my officers to death permanently if they block the doorway one more time during sleeper agent
because you can only fire 3 people? whats wrong with you
i have enough money on my ps5 just waiting for the ability to preorder or buy RoN I haven't been able to play since pre 1.0 due to my PC no longer being able to handle it
ready or not game crashing on loading head quaters?
I ain't no expert but these are the steps you ought to take, if the first step doesn't work try the next one:
Restart game
Restart pc
Verify game files
Check if the PC meets the minimum hardware requirements
ty
Nahhh you died to diddy himself? Crazy skill issue given as how he only spawns with an m1911
Should cops have dragon breath for their shotguns?š¤«
No
arent dragon breath illegal to use at first? 
is it possible to shoot a suspect's shoulder to disarm them/force them to surrender?
turns out nope *(at least with a supressed mk18)
Not sure, I usually knee cap them. Seems to do the job at least when it comes to incapacitation.
hey ty!
Bro it seems almost impossible to get the "incap a suspect with c2" achievement, every time i think i got it just right when theres a guy right behind a door they always death fake
In Elephant in the Northern Exit entry point there's double doors on the left from spawn. If you sprint for it and slap C2 on it. There's an enemy right behind it every now and then.
Yeah he fakes his death too
Even if he's riiight behind the door instead of a couple of meters?
Right there behind it
Practically licking the damn thing
Interesting, probably better to try it on a map with enemies that don't have vests. I think I got mine on Thank You, Come Again.
Okey doke 
I am on my Ironman run, 100% complete, all maps above D, none of my officers have died or resigned, one was incapacitated once. I got my the World and gold watch, but no the Hermit. How can I know what I am missing from that achievement?
You need C on port
You said one of your teammates got incapacitated
That also affects it
But yet I got the watch?
Still, the original question was, is there any way to figure out what I am missing or messed up
I don't want to start it all over again 
Do you just have an A+ on port or did you get the A+ on this run?
Also did any officers resign?
None of the officers resign, everyone is alive and got A+ on this run. I have S from port in free game.
then i'm not quite sure what happened
Me neither, this is my fourth time I am trying to get that hermit to pop and willing to give in already 
Resigning does not affect the hermit
Try port again, if that doesn't work you're out of luck i think
Incapacitated teammates does
Also no mods active
even if they don't die?
there is conflicting information in forums and message boards about this
Yes
Killed/incapacitated teammates
No achievement
ah well... here we go once again then
that is extremely dumb
that really takes value out from the paramedic perk
veteran, armorer and nutritionist ftw
and go full blazing, kill everyone
at least got the watch already, don't have to mind that anymore
I genuienly think all of the perks minus the free arrests are meaningless
why would i get more morale on arrests when i can just get more arrests
intimidator + negotiator = entire rooms just give up
fair point
intimidator + negotiator + armorer
because there is always this one fool spraying his ak from the other side of the map
Woah the active shooters in mirage depend on if you arrest sahid before or after he gives them orders to start shooting people? Wicked 
Does he have custom voicelines for that or nah?
no 
Step 1: load into the map
Step 2: pray to god that the shooters dont go to the library
Step 3: if everything else goes to plan, and god awnsered your prayers, then congrats you got s
Also one more thing
To run faster, go into low ready and run, its faster than normal walking
or simply get some teammates to do it with you - easy peasy lemon squeezy
Going in with your team is for 
player teammates, not AI
Still applies
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what's wrong with having friends?
Nothing i just dont have any so i take it out on other people 
If i hurt others the pain goes away right?
also, what kind of "spetsnaz" are you if you're there to rescue hostages? No such thing as hostages for spetsnaz, only ... incapacitated hostiles
Thats me playing airsoft smh š¤¦āāļø
ah, a man of culture
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Oh yeah i got a sweet deal on a full ratnik set on ebay
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This shit is sweet š
repro or?
Yeah ofc
They dont just let civilians have russian army issue obviously but its very realistic
Thank you so much š
I'm pushing new personal bests on Relapse
One day I'll beat it š
Relapse is f*ckedddd
Crazy ass mission
fr
I can't wait to see what they do to relapse when hard mode comes out
It will be hell on earth š š
isnt relapse just shotgun haven
suspect that can be one tap by slug or just hallway buckshot leg
theres prolly not a better map for shotgun than that map now that i think about it the connector between 2 buildings if you enter from default side is the only part where buck isnt great but everywhere is hallway
they said they're adding traps to more maps on hard mode and there's no way that a map about barricaded terrorists who are planning to blow up a hospital won't have traps on it
depends how long it took D-platoon to respond to the scene
Is there any special evidence to secure in the "Spider" mission? I rescued all civilians, apprehended George, brought order to chaos. Am I just missing some suspect weapon evidence or is there any other evidence too?
there are no "item" soft objectives you need to call in
It hasn't auto-ended, that's why I'm asking, its only "Soft" completed
must be evidence on unsecured suspect
Or an unrestrained suspect, can it be that also?
aye
Ok so it was a unsecured suspect weapon
there we go
Funny how there is no special evidence when you could report the camera reels and the suitcase of cash for evidence, not hardcore convicting evidence, but evidence none-the-less
couldn't agree more
Also noticed Spider mission level has random distant gunshots
first I thought it was the suspects in the building taunting you to come in by shooting
aye, that's a cool addition
And its not thunder, that sounds different
yup, it's a dodgy neighbourhood that's why
how do i get beat cop achievement? i completed narcos using only usp and let ai use normal rifles without grenades/lanunchers
and without mirrorgun
Is the gun on brixleys desk in his office supposed to be collected as evidence?
nope
Wierd
Hey, between camera reels and possibly 100k in cash in a suitcase, and a "legal" looking glock, I would let him have the gun šŗšø
Yeah but its california, the communist government wont let citizens exercise their 2nd amendment rights let alone criminals
C grade minimum btw
Yo I'm tryna find a new loadout could someone suggest one
full on FSB gear and equipment with swat 4 russian voice dub mod
best roleplay you'll find out here
When my teammate panics in the Elysian and unloads his G3A3
(Eugh that didn't post the image the way i wanted it to)

we just tried dorms for the millionth time. finishing everything perfectly, except always missing evidence. guns or whatever seem to no appear on the map. this is super annoying :/
try this, if you find suspects with no weapon on them, let them get back up and theyll drop one
Known issue
only way to circumvent it is to use mods atm
we do the whole "one weapon dropped do no cuff them yet", etc spiel, but somehow something was always missing so far.
the knives are bugged too so idk
Me when the ready is not
So has anyone noticed the same creepy humming tone that can be heard in sins of the father is also present in Lawmaker??
Uhhh
Are you talking about the distorted star spangled banner?
Yes I noticed a similar background tune in lawmaker
Where tf would it appear there though?
When the gunshots has died down and itās mostly silent during the background
Oh nvm then
You got the music turned off?
Ah I see lol
GET THE FUCK OUT OF MY WAY
Nuh uh lil broski

Thatās it Iām touching you inappropriately
š”ļø š®āāļø 
GET DOWN ON YOUR KNEES
Wait wrong hands
Uhh
He left handed
#dev-updates message the person that did the test of the voip is the life of the party
Should I get the deluxe ron on xbox so I get the dlcs or are they not worth it?
It's worth it bro
Definitely worth it
I'd say dlc1 maps are ight, dlc 2 maps are kinda a mixed bag as imo the oil rig is the only good map in that pack. Dlc2 also introduces a gimmick that is quite useless in the long run and it's present on every map from that dlc.
As for cosmetics, they're pretty meh, DLC1 are def much better than DLC2 (the vbss gear is ight), cuz at least it doesn't come with clipping issues or boots that are on wrong sides.
Depanding on how much deluxe costs, I would only go for DLC1 as it's more consistent in it's content than DLC2
can i install ready or not and still get tactical missions/gameplay or will i need dlc
or mods?
Wdym?
What's the tactical missions/gameplay? That's the whole shtick of this game lol
The DLCs just add 3 new maps (6 in total) and a couple of cosmetics
i was gonna wait until the same sale but im thinking about just buying it rn anyways. people were telling me ready or not isnt actually tactical and that youtubers were just making the ron look a certain way and that the game is like rainbow six siege. i just dont know what i dont know about the game if that makes sense? but i play zero hour and that game is ok but ready or not looks way cooler and more polished plus i want to play as us swat/police and not bangledash special forces lol.
im just wondering if theres any mods i should install that would make my game better or if i should just see what the vanilla game is like first
or if theres at least any mods for gear or cool swat mods
RoN is not like Siege
But it def feels mode like old R6 games than SWAT4 imo
It is tactical as you have to think a bit while playing, ofc youtubers play the game in a certain way to "sell" the tactical feeling more (which results in cringe tbh)
You cannot just rush in guns blazing (unless you're lucky) and finish the mission like that, you have objectives to do and not completing one can destroy your mission ranking
okay
yeah ofc
also 1 more question
does the dlc bundle include the ready or not base game as well?
like the game itself and the dlcs?
The LSPD bundle includes the game and the 2 DLCās, itās $70, the other bundles under that price do not include the game.
Plus a soundtrack iirc
I love watching the AI clean up once we're done clearing the area
That too
Watching this chat makes me more impatient waiting for ronsole lol
Personally I would only recommend buying the game first then DLCs separetly, so you can return them in case you won't like any of em
are there any good ai or gear mods i should install?
sorry if im asking a lot of questions
just trying to get a good experience out of my money
Yeah, AI mods are smth you should try yourself and see which one you'll like the best tbh
As for gear, plenty. Just make sure it ain't outdated
#šmod-starter-pack has lots of up to date mods
thanks
Kinda feels weird to recommend some mods cuz every mod I've commed so far has 100k+ downloads in total lol
BCM/Colt from Doughnut having the majority of em
yo
which launch option do i choose
Play Ready or Not (DirectX 12)
Play Ready or Not (DirectX 11)
Play Safe Mode (No Mods)
Launch Clean Mods / Save Data
this is for steam launch btw
Does anyone else like to watch the officers carry out the arrested and bodies?
Which ever dx your gpu supports
Safe mode disables mods
And clean mods/save data means removing the mod data you have and any records and unlocks you have.
its different for everybody
Will you guys ever add a left handed option?
why did all my most of my unlocked gear dissapeara after starting a new game and deleting my old save?
deleting your save deletes everythingā¦
no listen
it was already unlocked WITH the new game
and then i restarted my progress and now its not even showing up in the customization locker
for example half my tattoos were already unlocked now none of them are unlocked or they are missing, exact same thing for all the other slots.
Resetting your progress removes everything
bro
Idk how im misunderstanding
u dont understand
Clearly not
listen let me explain better for u
i just installed Ready or Not, these gear and items were ALREADY available and unlocked before i even completed a single mission. then i delete my save and start a new one. most of the gear that was unlocked isnt even in the menu anymore or it is unlocked.
Did you restart your application?
im also just genuinely confused why it completely disappeared
Then I think you legit wiped everything. Idrk anything about the game, but thatās my only answer.
then why would items completley disappear without me even being able to unlock or see them
Were they unlocked or locked? Iām confused now
spelling mistake my bad. they were unlocked and then they became locked or disappeared
Did you change clothing at all? Maybe the clothes you changed into were incompatible with the missing things 
i did
i even reset my char to default
Idk then gang, someone else should be able to answer your question.
hi
if a civilian isn't getting on the floor after flashbangs and stingers, do I need to restart
I think they also have a bomb strapped if that helps
yell for compliance
Its a bug
You're either going to incapacitate or start over
Lethal Obsession is alone making me Alt F4
those motherfuckers 2 shot SWAT in Full Ceramic
what kinda fuck ass coding did they get?
They just know how to kill you better 
what kind of crit bullshit do they get tho? 2 shots?
just spammed CS gas
ten time gold medal marksmen chaining headshots fr fr
my other grape is that the community has decided to listen to the rambling of a schizo
wat
Deng so they saying go for the knees
tripper?! we saw that!
I die after "Order to chaos completed"
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shit fuck
RoN gives us valuable life lessons, doesn't it
no it fucking doesnt

also what fucking grenades kill through walls?
not like you have armoured concrete there
The ones with FMJ shrapnel
certified US plaster construction moment
Any brick wall would stop fragmentation
exactly
any good mod advice ? i already use the sig mcx spear, noveske n4 (glitched bcz of gunfighter mod) and gunfighter
and more attachment
wedge gaming, there's a ton of doors that you'll get flanked through without them
How is the noveske glitched?
my noveske is replacing the LVAR and when i downloaded gunfighter it changed the name back to āLVARā, with visual of the noveske and i canāt attach any custom stuff on it
i have it without flashlight or ir strobe
What mod are you using?
Use Ballistic Noveske tbh, it replaces the ARWC and isn't glitched
i just found it thank you i will replace it
is there a lot of possible cool attachment on it ?
Yes, just install attachment expansion from him as well
found one but a year ago, idk if it need to get updated to work but iāll try
on ends of the earth the tran brothers accidentally shot their own mom
she had a gun shot wound around her liver area, I think she was stabelized
got Greased Palms S rank on first try
Got shot up and got to bleeding like 4 times
My Judge must either have wolverine type healing or most cracked doctors work for the police
nah, he's on the special stuff that most of Los Suenos is on (or he's a sleeper agent for FISA/MLO/USIA)
guys is there a way to activate helmet cam in replay mode
hello guys
can I ask if using a mod that unlocks every customization option will get me banned or in any trouble?
and another one that adds fanmade gear
I just don't wanna risk anything
if it makes you feel better, on my first playthrough I lost almost all of my officer slots cuz I didn't know how to disarm trapped doors
No and no.
I know how to disarm. Problem is they are fewer than 5
thank you very much
So you get blown up behind the door you least expect it
Good for you, I blew up at least 6 times on ides of march
I am trying S rank Ironman
I only had to Alt F4 3 times
2 on Lethal Obsession and once on Ides of March
Even got fucking Greased Palms first try
My Judge will have to retire early on medical charges
I keep getting shot up
Fucking Suspect AI only ever aims for limbs
A guy on Gas Station shot 3 times at me, a bullet landed in a leg each, 3rd landed in my right arm
What Tarkov scav, fuck ass aim is that?
What was that one mod that had the sheriffs patches on the vests?
Check nexus mods
š
Thats where i get my mods anyway but someone reccomended a mod that adds sheriffs patches on the vests
I needs a link boss š
I don't know the mod bro
Has Sheriff variants.
Thank you boss š
Did Valley of The Dolls S rank first try
8 guards funelled in a hallway
I just bean shotgunned them all
I will never s rank that mission, always kill
Death is only an escape for him
Living is worse
Fair
https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTjVXTNcf/ This what we giving him?
Whenever I try to S rank it, my beanbag transforms into B1301 when shooting at Amos.
Got bored with the current maps in the game and kinda wanna write a fanfic in the RoN universe.
beat Rust Belt with every suspect arrested and only 1 suspect incapacitated. A clean A+
JudgexAmosš
Whaaaa
Why does judge always move his weapon when yelling for compliance?
weak arms
does vanilla stab vest already have a belt with zipcuffs on it?
I mean, the 3d model itself
It does for me, lemme check without mods
Might depend on belt you're wearing too
It seems like vanilla stab-proof vest adds a forced belt
Is there any way to remove that forced belt?
Even selecting a belt in customization menu just makes you have 2 belts
idk
I just completed every map at s rank including dlcs, my will to live has significantly gone down
Now do it again
i dont think getting hermit will be that bad, i just hate twisted nerve
what are your guys consensus on preemptive strikes?
like barricaded suspect = M67 Frag type reaction?
easiest achievement, another thing is the hanged man
Whatās the mod that makes it so thereās no weapon sway when ads
I think itās gunfighter that does that?
Do mods disable achievements
No way
So feel free to use mods
That is awesome
Do other players see my cosmetic mods or do they also have to download them too
They wonāt see it unless they have them too
Cosmetic mods are client sided
All right, thanks thatās what I thought
i have an issue where my ron crashes when loading in, im at the homescreen and click continue or host friends game and when it loads it loads to like 98% then my game freezes, it usually runs fine
last terrorist on Neon tomb put his forehead against my bean bag shotgun nulifying the S run
dude tilted his head as he rushed me
i wish my mouse had a 3rd side button i could assign shove to for this very reason
so many runs could've been saved if shove was more accessible
is the game ever gonna get a 5v5 game mode i feel like ive been waiting since 2023 for 5v5
we used to have it in the pre pre alpha days
but way too glitchy and buggy so the devs removed it
revamped the game in solely pve fashion
Finally got Neon Tomb
Game even cheered me up. The tattoo for it is called "Going for gold"
will mods ever come to console in the future
damn so no pvp
Did Google Leak the update date?
that kinda sucks im ngl
I am not saying the date, but not sure if it's real either
console release š
That's what I found
Hey man, can I DM you the stuff and check if it's legit?
I think the release date of Ron on Xbox has leaked
i know you know the release fate
Moderators are community volunteers, not VOID employees
Then can I say the month I think the console will drop?
Not the day
I think it drops in July, maybe August latest
Very low chance it drops in June
Does anyone know what price it will roughly be when it drops on Xbox?
donāt speak misfortune into the universe
50 probably
No
we still have to pay for the full gameeee
the dlc is definitely cheaper than the game
What? Is Void not yet satiated with money?
never
Console players are already unfortunate enough to be console players
but they have made the only good seat gane in this century
ik š
pc is coming soon
That's the issue with monopolies
Void monopolised Swat games
what pc like
I had a stroke reading that
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@gaunt gale Can someone on the VOID team please explain what you need for sleeper agent achievement. I had my friend sit next to me with a stopwatch, and I cleared the whole map (22 suspects) with not even 10 seconds between every kill - no achievement popped up. Is this a known issue where it doesn't pop or are the requirements just not explained well? It is just very frustrating doing such an rng based achievement without knowing whether you are doing it wrong or the games just bugged and it doesn't unlock
The trick is that it says specifically incap or apprehend
You can't kill them.
There's a difference between kill or incapacitate.
I see - people online have videos where it looks like they killed the suspects as well as most people saying you are able to kill. Thanks for the clarification, I know the achievement says incapacitate but perhaps it would be worth adding a note or something somewhere, saying you can't kill specifically? There is a lot of confusion online and I know others including myself have spent an insane amount of hours trying to get it. Thanks for clearing it up though!
@gaunt gale https://youtu.be/IIM9JdvRl74?si=RMKkKUWP6Q9BnJlW it looks like this guy headshots some of the suspects and it pops for him?
The incap system is unfortunately a little fucky sometimes
I have learnt that the hard way after 20 hours of trying š© Thank you for your help though and for your work on such an amazing game!
Ofc not
Remember to pre order to get the three "new" guns as well or otherwise they'll be gone forever!
Guys, what do you thinkāhow likely is it that what was shown in the Xbox Store about July 14 for console is actually true?

It could be true or not, nothing in between
it's a 50/50, so don't get yourself excited
But also wouldn't be the first time xbox/MS leaked smth
chat i just saw something
i cant send images here for some reason but apparently the release date for console isnt until july
courtesy of reddit
U mean this one?
we should have Vietnam War era uniforms/helmets/gear modded into the game fr. Idk itd tickle the parasite in my brain that makes me larp historical stuff :3c
also i feel like itd compliment the m16/car 15 mods that have been going out recently

car15 but bastardize it with rails and mounts
Just play Rising Storm tbh
Give it the Delta Force treatment
u get old rifle but they ALL come with larue accarizer
Someone watched HOP recently
You might want to look at that release date a little bit closer
wait
It's fake
š
What did we learn today class? Don't believe anything you read on reddit or wiki
i knew something was fishy
(there is seemingly a real leak, I edit that photo tho to meme)
Oooohhhhh well forgive me,im the stupid one
Y'know ppl always have to go "actually" whenever someone sends a meme
I'm not gonna post the real leak in here. (for reasons that would probably result in me losing image perms after having them for a week)
Can I have image perms too to post funny gifs
ask kaminsky or sumn
idk who gave to me, just had it one day
personally, I think it was Judge himself
I mean i didn't think it was that serious. People have been in this discord foaming at the mouth for ronsole. Im just trying to help out those that dont have it yet
Lol go touch grass. You literally live in this discord trolling people
Finally someone figured it out
(Just takes one look at my post history)
if you're not trolling, you're not doing the interweb right
everything has to be lightly dusted with irony, deep fried, and just barely engaging enough to draw out responses
Is being negative bout ron n void even trolling or being truthful
so true oomfie

I think Void catches a lot of unnecessary flak, but they are also basically the center of attention for all tacticool at the moment, while still being overwhelmingly indie
it's understandable
Itās crazy how indie games are better than most newer AAA games
Yeah and RoN ain't one of em
I know
Iām talking about indie games as a whole
Tbh only indie being better than current aaa I can think of atm is Clair Obscure
ik but still itd be kinda cool
(alr play rs2 im a little sick of mp getting absolutely railed from across the map)
It's really not tho. A lot of AAA companies rather chase trends instead of making a game that's unique to the slop being mass produced
Cuz like it absolutely cooked the AAA scene and imo set new standards for indie games
((im bad at rs2 only game im like actually good at is ron š))
Nahhh RoN ain't better than current AAA games cuz it's as bad 
I'm gonna get modded for spamming this gif at u 24/7
honestly if RoN isn't the tacticool industry leader right now, it's gotta be ground branch
(now someone use the gif on me)
GB is actually such a weird game. It's been in development for almost 2 decades and the team currently has a pretty nice size
Yet it still plays like a 2010 Unity tactical game from a browser
fr
Except those were more complete than GB is
no but did you consider that there are like FOUR whole weapon positions?
high ready, low ready, point shoot, and aim!
NO OTHER GAME HAS THESE
Oh yeah you can also move attachments around for no fucking gameplay reason
How about you move your dih around some huzzes first
they should add attachment randomization to the AI enemies, that would be cool
spend 12 months doing that, then call it a MAJOR UPDATE
I'm stuck in the loop again. Slopbranch hate loop. I am stunlocked.
Tbh if the only remarkable thing bout GB is the fact u can move attachments ( which is useless ), it tells you a lot about what this game is lol
And the audiacity to raise the price few years ago too š
the more interesting customization is with the gear imo, being able to actually set up a rig/belt setup in a purposeful way
again, not gameplay tho
Yeah, but then you realize everyone runs the same setup cuz any other is just useless
18 year dev time
still no rudimentary armor systems
not even something as lazy as designating certain bones with damage reduction
GB is definitely a game of all times
THE game of all time
GB console release when
It's literally a glorified demo you have to pay for cuz you're a stupid tacticool games cock sucker (I bought the game)
Someone needs to make an M60 mod because the LAPD actually has two in their armory
For someone like me, it's one of the big reasons why I don't bother with Arma and the like. So much stuff that's just a pain in the ass to do, that doesn't add anything to my experience
true
we need 60s and 70s larp gear PLEASEEEE
the parasite in my head itches for it
I agree a little. Complicated control schemes can be a turn off.
But if that's the only thing keeping you from experiencing what arma has to offer, I'd honestly say to try and get over it.
Arma 3 has a buttload of stuff to do in vanilla, more with vanilla workshop scenarios, and a fucking gazillion things to do with mods/modded scenarios.
But unless you're into the whole, "joining randoms for online games thing", stay away from arma 3 if you dont have friends that are gonna join in.
Reforger is kinda hot right now though, so the whole community is friendly and evolving with the new players
Reforger is great
I taught some noobs land nav
Brought a tear to my eye
alright chat, what's your fav gun to use in RoN (I'm a M1014 kinda guy)
Heh, some random criminal as they watch their friend get blown apart by a hail a 7.62Ć51mm
"What the hay...I thought they were supposed to use 5.56......And take people alive......?"
thinking of Amos Voll getting disintegrated by an m60 gives me dopamine
ok but like
what about the uhh George Brixley
But yeah, LAPD SWAT has 2 M60 LMGs in the event that "SWAT is overwhelmed"
Him too
AV is just the head of said operation and like melts kids in his basement after doing the worst things imaginable to children
Brixley just sells them to AV which is still fucking abysmal obviously but he's not the one making the "material"
ngl, is Gerald Scott kinda of a good guy...? Like he killed cops and all but he and the women cult leader seem to be the only ones who know about the MLO project that even Judge doesn't know about
true
Which makes sense for LA. The they're the type of city that could face a major terrorist attack, and they're close enough to the border that if the Mexican cartel war spills over they would need it.
I don't really fancy those huge open world firefights
fair enough
Agreed
as someone who lives in LA, my mom having survived the LA riots etc, those M60s are entirely necessary
as well as the points you brought up
It's seriously insane how well the cartel is armed in Mexico. I know the reason that they don't do it here is because overt violence like that in the U.S wouldn't be tolerated and that we'd take that shit as a declaration of war. But Colorado police had a hard time stopping a bulldozer with armor. How hard of a time do you think the police will have trying to stop an armored Toyota helix with a mounted machinegun?
Only an hour or so once NYPD gets its F16s
Btw you are known for data parsing the game files aren't you? Do you have any knowledge into how the recoil values interact/act exactly from the weapon assets?
That reminds me of this one ad where Texas talks about litter and shows a B-17
Texas Confederate Air force or some shit.
I do not.
You'd be better off hitting up some of the peeps in the Ready or Mod discord, anyone that's made custom weapons/rebalancing mods
there's like 30 different entries that define weapon handling
I tried, didn't get any replies ( I'm trying to fix recoil on some custom weapons, cuz everyone makes them have lasercutter accuracy
Some of it works as intended by me, but there's still stuff missing, there is also the camera shake values which are separate
Anyway, thx for the advice
B1301 or the ARN-180.
I just S on valley of the dolls
GA51 but im trying the GA416 later
yo, let's get this van in the game and lore: https://www.reddit.com/r/ReadyOrNotGame/comments/1l1vqct/saw_this_guy_driving_around_googled_the_back_of/
you nabcakes I AM BETTER THAN ALL OF YOU HAHAHA
Name every suspect

a suspect offed himself on a S rank run
why?
I only hit him with one bean bag and he decided to blow his brains
Valid crash out
Im slightly annoyed at even attaempting to beat greased plams as I get lit up by 5 firing squads at once
Yeah it's a bad map. Just clear around the buildings first then start going inside
I think that that would result in federal swat units receiving new tools or maybe socom gets involved
Wasn't the bulldozer only taken out cuz one of the SWAT guys happened to own a .50 cal
I'm assuming we're talking Marvin and his killdozer
Probably