#šŸ‘®ron-discussion

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vagrant zephyr
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they each have their own tradeoffs

tacit gull
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they are way faster, but gas lasts longer and has a bigger area

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suspects can walk out of gas however

hardy dune
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Ahh so its more map based im guessing

vagrant zephyr
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Flashbangs are consistent, you can't go wrong with them
Stingers are like less-than-lethal frag grenades without the cool explosion
Gas makes sure the room is empty, or at least filled with compliant suspects

hardy dune
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I see.. so each has its own use and its best to carry one of each

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  • a few of each
vagrant zephyr
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Eh, bring which one gets you the best result

hardy dune
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Ahh ok.. I'll stick with flashes and stingers for a few missions.. then try switching one of them up for gas

vagrant zephyr
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Good to hear

hardy dune
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see what works.. Thanks man

tacit gull
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just stick with one

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you dont want your character ranfomly pulling out whatever he feels like

hardy dune
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understood..

narrow geode
tacit gull
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does it? it's even worse than i thought yea

amber dock
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CS works for me so Idc about stats

narrow geode
stone bay
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s-ranking isn't that hard if you're doing multiplayer

limber night
patent axle
tacit gull
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Is there even a mod that makes cs usable

limber night
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Better cs or something

tacit gull
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its crazy how bad cs got nerfed on 1.0

limber night
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Imagine trying to balance a PVE game in which you should have the advantage smh

tacit gull
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left 4 dead

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the reason that game is timeless is because the balancing is superb

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it also feels great to play

limber night
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Yeah, but you're against the horde of zombies not guys with guns

tacit gull
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doesn't mean the devs shouldn't consider how the game plays

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RON has a severe lack of balance and a place for everything in the game

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sure we can add 50 guns that perform the same, doesn't mean we should

limber night
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Or add the same gun but worse

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Looking at you MP5/10

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And UMP9

tacit gull
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The "player choice" in the game is: do you run the gun that is good or do you run the guns that are worse?

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Do you run the grenade that instantly surrenders suspects or the one that doesn't?

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do you run the armor that works or the one that doesn't?

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do you run nvgs for free or do you just not

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That's mainly why i tell people to use whatever, because figuring out that half of the stuff in the game just has no function makes it feel so much worse

forest summit
limber night
tacit gull
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atleast the flux has 0 recoil

forest summit
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Last time I uses it the mp5/10 wasn't that bad

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Just SMGs in general have a lot of horizontal recoil

limber night
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Cuz Boid cannot into recoil

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and your character has noodle arms with every single gun

bitter mason
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I pick equipment based on aura as the kids say

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Screw optimising loadouts and meta
I want to dress in the 90s drip and use an mp5

tiny quail
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i pick mcx just cause it looks cool

rich quartz
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So the cellar in Neon tomb says he locked himself in the cellar but where is that?? We never see or find a cellar/ basement level

limber night
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We don't know how the building looks outside the enterance area, chances are the back of the club has a fence or something and the basement is accessible through there.

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I'm just using my imagination, idk

rich quartz
limber night
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I mean... duh

rich quartz
amber dock
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Remaining items never got added

limber night
amber dock
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Idk if I would call them minor stuff

limber night
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I just don't remember well lol

amber dock
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Most important stuff got added anyways so

limber night
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What's the missing stuff then

amber dock
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Just a diff coloured variant of the old HRT outfit

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Ranger green I believe it was

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Shown on old promo art for SE

limber night
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Ehhh the old hrt outfit sucked ass anyways

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Just curious as to why they never used the crye zip on 2.0 from the assets they got for hrt

tacit gull
amber dock
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I have it on a loadout

tacit gull
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i dunno about that one

amber dock
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Oh you mean that shotgun

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Yeah that’s what I mean with 2% items not added

limber night
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Wait they got rid of the entryman?

amber dock
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Idk which exact variant Desmond is talking about but there is one supporter shotgun variant

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That’s always been in since SE became a thing

limber night
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Yeah I also recall just one

rich quartz
amber dock
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That’s the one I’m talking aboutpolitecat

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Only 2 variants were ever planned to be made

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The standard multicam one that we got and the green one that never made it

sick citrus
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How do we deal with the game when we either don't find any more civs/hostiles to subdue or when the game straight up bugs out? Restart mission?

amber dock
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If game bugs out it depends on what kind of bugs you’re encountering

sick citrus
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Right! Am in Neon Tomb and spamming the search room command for dear life šŸ˜… will run more circles

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On the other hands the swat AI seems to not want to search more rooms, they don't move when the command is issued. Oh well

amber dock
sick citrus
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aha interesting ty

amber dock
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Basically if you’ve already detained or secured everything that you’ve found so far they won’t do anything else if you tell them to search the room

sick citrus
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Neat mechanic

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found em! 🤣 the toilets in the pool area

patent axle
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So i was just playing a lethal obsession and i looked under one of the doors with an optiwand that gerard just so happened to be standing behind....

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I got an eyeful of something i DID NOT need to see gng šŸ™ 😭

twilit mulch
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🄶

tacit gull
patent axle
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Wheres the option to give this man some pants crycat šŸ™

amber dock
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So I was rightJudgeDredd

tacit gull
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that's more like almost a quarter JudgeDredd

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maybe if you want to mention the coyote and camo fbi hrt uniforms

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maybe even the first expansion (the game didn't get any)

amber dock
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2% accounts for the other HRT uniform and the shotty

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Everything was added at some point

tacit gull
amber dock
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And expands on the game

tacit gull
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with like no new mechanics

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It expands on the game so much they gave dark waters out too smidog

amber dock
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But everyone has own opinions so I can’t argue with that

tacit gull
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SWAT 4: The Stetchkov Syndicate adds a new campaign with half the level count of the original, adds punching, holding commands, lightsticks, adds completely new weapons, VOIP, etc.
Maybe a bit much, how about battlefield 2's expansion which adds : 8 maps, 6 new factions, grappling hooks, NVGs, tear gas, etc.

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expansions are usually known to bring pretty sweeping changes and that was the plan originally with different departments as per ye olde FAQ

amber dock
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So they lock certain features behind expansions?

tacit gull
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Yeah, like dark waters did yea

amber dock
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I mean it’s being added later to maps

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And also I wouldn’t call animations really features since they don’t alter gameplay that much

tacit gull
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The main difference with what i mentioned is those features were usually pretty good

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in dark waters we have the chopper locked behind playing those levels

amber dock
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The choppers is not really that game changing

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Most of the time it just gives you pointless info

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The times it is useful is so small that it wouldn’t change the outcome of the mission besides maybe being bit faster score time

tacit gull
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yeah it's terrible

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all it really needed is to be accessible through the t menu

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maybe tell us building sides and levels rather than compass direction, not everyone has that enabled

amber dock
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So it being locked behind paywall like it’s a massive feature is kinda not true lol

tacit gull
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It is still a feature that's locked behind a paywall, much like the expansions that were originally planned

noble pasture
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So realistically, swat can't lock pick yes?

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And also realistically it's faster to just shoot the door open

tacit gull
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It depends on the door, but SWAT operators aren't trained by default to locksmith

noble pasture
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Then a battering ram makes more sense

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Separate the door lock from the door

amber dock
brisk scaffold
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They need to add a proximity check to the game and then push to talk to use comms trying to coordinate in game voice chat while you're clearing a room and having to hold down a button to talk is silly

spark silo
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hey does anyone know if well have to make some sort of account for crossplay when it releases or will it be like a lobby key thing

tacit gull
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I don't think we have anything on that yet

frozen seal
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But NVG is cool 🄹

spark silo
frozen seal
amber dock
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Useless mechanic for no benefit besides immersion

frozen seal
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Wdym it would give you an advantage over enemies

limber night
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Again...

frozen seal
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Ehhh just make them less accurate and react slower

limber night
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Plus they would have to rebuild every single map because of how they're made

amber dock
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No point in cutting off power if Ai will have same vision and reaction in complete darkness

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And like raccoon said, they would have to make all maps all over again 2 times due to how they use lighting in the game

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Basically useless for nothing besides making it cool

limber night
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And even if the AI would be rebuild to be compatible with the darkness n shit, upon hearing you they'll know where u are at any time anyways

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It's why running a suppressor is also useless

amber dock
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Ai see you as good in darkness as if nothing is there

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That’s why NvGS also are useless on swat Ai

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It’s just visual

spark silo
frozen seal
spark silo
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^

amber dock
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Even ground branch that has option to cut power doesn’t even do anything

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The Ai react as good as if daytime

limber night
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It's not as simple to program AI from scratch

spark silo
limber night
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18 years in development baby!

amber dock
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It’s nothing to do with good or bad, it’s just borderline useless feature unless you actually make it have a effect on gameplay

spark silo
limber night
limber night
amber dock
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GB team is in the tens now

limber night
amber dock
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I think they are same size as void and have been for a long time

limber night
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Well it was like what I said just few years ago DepoShrug

spark silo
limber night
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Whaaat, ain't no way

limber night
spark silo
frozen seal
limber night
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Trust me, AI rn is way better than it used to be during Early Access days

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As much as I love to shit on void, they at least improved here

spark silo
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ive next to zero complaints with void they are doing phenominal

limber night
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They could improve on their communication tbh

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But I don't have high hopes at all these days

spark silo
limber night
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Fr fr

spark silo
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lmao

patent axle
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Is way out west still bugged?

limber night
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what?

twilit mulch
patent axle
wraith gale
amber dock
patent axle
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Even though i did 357 ONLY

amber dock
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C grade minimum too

patent axle
amber dock
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How you get S rank with 357?

patent axle
amber dock
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Doesn’t matter anyway I guess, no shields allowed or anything only 357 and c grade minimum

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If it doesn’t pop then you gotta keep trying

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Some of them are very notorious for taking few tries to pop

patent axle
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None of my officers do either

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I just gave them all fuckin pepperball m4s and flashbangs

amber dock
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Then keep trying

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And fire at least one whole mag of the 357

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And incap someone

patent axle
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I emptied 3

amber dock
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Not just shoot up into the sky and hit Jesus

amber dock
patent axle
amber dock
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Uh huh.

patent axle
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And they kept faking deaths

amber dock
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If you really wanna try then give teammates all 357 and only pistol ammo and go like that

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Even if it shouldn’t matter

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But like I said buggy

patent axle
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"This town aint big enough for the both of us" šŸ‘“

icy wraith
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you need to code in all the restrictions and limitations. Whatever it is you DON'T code in, will result in 'godlike' behavior from it

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the most basic things like movement speed, collision, tracking, and fire after sight can all be implemented by default settings in a lot of engine plugins for AI. The good things though, will need a lot of work

wheat sapphire
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Does anyone know where updates are posted about the soft objectes bug in the dorms and twisted nerves map?

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or are these already fixed?

icy wraith
amber dock
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Hopefully will be solved with the coming update

wheat sapphire
amber dock
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But you’ll know about it once update comes out

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It’s impossible to not know:)

wheat sapphire
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Well, not gonna try those maps again until the fix XD

amber dock
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You can circumvent it atm with mods only

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Otherwise yeah gotta wait until it’s fixed

shut echo
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why is the fire button for officers grayed out? cAAAT

patent axle
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You know elephant isnt actually that bad if you move quickly

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Especially given the fact that sprinting IS kinda in the game

untold ridge
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ready or not?

narrow geode
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sprinting in question is walking in low ready which is 0.01% faster than walking normally

buoyant pecan
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How tf does one S rank Valley

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I was fully non lethal, I even got that scumfuck Amos alive and conscious and got all the evidence
Still didn’t get an S rank

amber dock
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Did you get soft objectives?

exotic raven
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i just started playing game (in SP) and am i wrong to think that some accessories and such are just better than others?
Like i was looking and it feels like wearing no helmet is worse than normal helmet which is worse than ballistic helmet, is that the case?

amber dock
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There’s the photos and the basement

amber dock
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So wearing a diff helmet is just cosmetic

exotic raven
exotic raven
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fair enough

patent axle
exotic raven
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anything i should know getting into the game in general?

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as a casual

narrow geode
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Dont play with random teammates

patent axle
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THE COLOUR THE COLOUR

exotic raven
patent axle
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I mean like the bolton guys secret service brixleys guys and shit

exotic raven
patent axle
# exotic raven like fr?

Im not joking, most of the suspects in the game wear black or very dark clothing, school shooters, bolton security company, brixley talent time private security, rogue us secret service agents....

exotic raven
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and i'm guessing most NOT bad guys don't wear black

patent axle
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Of course there are exceptions but very dark clothing is the norm

patent axle
exotic raven
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so it's more like don't shoot white clothing, prepare to shoot to black clothing

patent axle
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I PROMISE ITS NOT RACIST BLAME VOID NOT ME

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šŸ™

exotic raven
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question, is the SP forgiving in the sense of save, reloading save files and such?

arctic ice
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found out the C2 can actually kill the player, i fucked around and found out

patent axle
exotic raven
patent axle
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Never happened to me idk

amber dock
exotic raven
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i'm not looking to get all S ranks and the likes but i'd rather avoid killing half my squad on a stupid mistake

amber dock
exotic raven
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thx

patent axle
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Does anything interesting happen if suspects find other cuffed suspects?

amber dock
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No

arctic ice
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according to the therapist note i gave one of my dudes PTSD by executing every suspect

exotic raven
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to avoid killing suspects i should just shoot the leg if they resist right?

iron sparrow
exotic raven
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i mean i don't even know what else i can do to them

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assuming i'm not extremely close

iron sparrow
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beanbags provided you don't pepper the fuck out of them or hit their head

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flashbangs or stingers make them more likely to surrender too

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pepperball guns probably work but people complain about them

buoyant pecan
patent axle
buoyant pecan
amber dock
buoyant pecan
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I shot Amos Voll point blank in the head cause my run got messed up and I didn’t care about getting an S rank anymore and then TOC told my teammates to kill me lol

buoyant pecan
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I even avoided using stingers just so there wouldn’t be accidental friendly fire

amber dock
buoyant pecan
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Aiight

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The run I did just now didn’t go quite as well. One of my officers got murked and then I decided ā€œfuck itā€ and started killing lol

patent axle
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Is there an in universe explaination as to who the 4th shooter in elephant is?

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We got the 3 mentally unstable amigos, archie, albert, and chase, and then theres just....greg....he joined for the hell of it

buoyant pecan
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Wait a minute
Does your rank go down if an officer gets injured? Not dead, just injured?

patent axle
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They can get their balls blown off but as long as theyre standing and holding a gun s rank is still in the door

buoyant pecan
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Ah ok

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Fuck I had a really good run going just now but then two security guards just shredded me tf up with gunfire

buoyant pecan
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Stairs around the outdoor entrance (not the basement stairs, but lower area in the regular house with the glass walls)

patent axle
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Yeah but where? In diddys house?

buoyant pecan
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They were around the corner and just when I thought I got one of em the other pops out as I’m restraining
And yeah it’s the diddy mansion level lol

patent axle
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So you know how most bolton guys are ex military right?

buoyant pecan
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Yea?

patent axle
buoyant pecan
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Yea I jus didn’t see them coming

patent axle
buoyant pecan
patent axle
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Uhhhhh

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I was just gonna recommend switching to full auto but like

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Okey doke

buoyant pecan
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Aaaaaand there goes another run cause a mf just shot me through one of those bigass windows lmao

patent axle
buoyant pecan
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Interesting…

patent axle
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MAGDUMP TO YOUR HEARTS DELIGHT

buoyant pecan
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I’ll have to check it out hehe

fading spruce
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Are you soloing it or using the AI?

patent axle
buoyant pecan
fading spruce
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Which mission?

buoyant pecan
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Valley of the Dolls

patent axle
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Let me translate that

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"Diddys house"

buoyant pecan
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Lmaooo

fading spruce
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Ohh, I just planned a route and used a TON of gas grenades. Beanbag for farther range of course

limber night
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Valley of the doll is quite easy when you go down and then go from there

fading spruce
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It’s usually the backyard that’s somewhat difficult due to range

patent axle
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My fellow officers, theres no need to torture yourselves trying to take everyone alive

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Just get no mercy for terrorists and roleplay a realistic lapd

limber night
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I use justified kills from it iirc

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But I still arrest a fair share of suspects

patent axle
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Im pretty sure they shot more people last year than las vegas metro šŸ™ šŸ’€

limber night
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Cool

buoyant pecan
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I’m gonna try to enter through the lower entrance

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Didn’t they used to only allow you to go through the front door

fading spruce
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I also like to use a good amount of wedges, makes it so they can’t get behind

patent axle
buoyant pecan
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Also wild that one of the missions that’s hardest to S rank is the one where you really really don’t want to let the suspects live lol

patent axle
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Or knock on the front door like a real man im just saying JudgeDredd

buoyant pecan
patent axle
buoyant pecan
limber night
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Nah, it's been there forever, right to the main enterance

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Go down the stairs, from there you access the lower floors

buoyant pecan
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I could’ve sworn it was blocked off before in previous versions tho I guess I got that wrong

patent axle
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Not gon cap

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I would prolly hit daniella voll ngl

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Maybe not her ingame model though only the posters and shit

buoyant pecan
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I’d probably hit

Her with hollow point rounds

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(If she knows what her husband’s up to, and it seems like she does and has no issue with it)

patent axle
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Kinda wierd though

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Like imagine knowing your husband has a fetish for kids and supporting it cuh

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Thats crazy šŸ™

buoyant pecan
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Fr Fr

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Fuck it I give up on trying to s rank this imma just play missions however I want for fun

copper flint
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Ready or Not

eager holly
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theres all kinds of mods out there but not a mod that adds Multicam Tropic lol.......

frozen seal
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do yall know what Janey Voll's diary says? I can barely read the cursive

sick citrus
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Looking for a mission reward unlockable. Should be S rank on Valley of the Dolls for a pink polo shirt (very tourist-y). Can't find it anywhere though - could it have been a fever dream?

frozen seal
sick citrus
noble python
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oh, i thought dark waters had more than 3 missions

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and i did everything right on all of them but only A, A and B because this game hates when the player uses lethal force

buoyant pecan
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Damn I had a pretty good run on Valley but somehow all of my assault rifle shots missed Amos and he capped me

frozen seal
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is there a way to switch to helmet cam in replay mode

near viper
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sleeper agent solo is not possible

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sleeper agent solo is not possible

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sleeper agent solo is not possible

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I would rather S-rank post office with no AI with just a taser 5 times perfectly in a row than ever have to attempt getting sleeper agent again

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I would rather s-rank every map with my eyes closed

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i would rathe do neon tomb with only pepper spray

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I would rather do hosptial with nothing but a grenade launcher

shut echo
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whys the fire officer button greyed out? I’ve resorted to sending them to their deaths for replacements lmao

near viper
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I wish I could send all my officers to death permanently if they block the doorway one more time during sleeper agent

meager epoch
light nest
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yesterday I managed to S-Rank Sins of the Father

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noice

sweet junco
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i have enough money on my ps5 just waiting for the ability to preorder or buy RoN I haven't been able to play since pre 1.0 due to my PC no longer being able to handle it

upbeat scaffold
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ready or not game crashing on loading head quaters?

forest summit
frozen seal
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ā€œYou’re in my spotā€

fair stirrup
patent axle
dreamy bronze
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Should cops have dragon breath for their shotguns?🤫

limber night
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No

shell cliff
sick citrus
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is it possible to shoot a suspect's shoulder to disarm them/force them to surrender?

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turns out nope *(at least with a supressed mk18)

spiral cipher
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Not sure, I usually knee cap them. Seems to do the job at least when it comes to incapacitation.

sick citrus
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hey ty!

patent axle
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Bro it seems almost impossible to get the "incap a suspect with c2" achievement, every time i think i got it just right when theres a guy right behind a door they always death fake

spiral cipher
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In Elephant in the Northern Exit entry point there's double doors on the left from spawn. If you sprint for it and slap C2 on it. There's an enemy right behind it every now and then.

spiral cipher
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Even if he's riiight behind the door instead of a couple of meters?

patent axle
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Practically licking the damn thing

spiral cipher
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Interesting, probably better to try it on a map with enemies that don't have vests. I think I got mine on Thank You, Come Again.

patent axle
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Okey doke goodcat

nimble robin
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I am on my Ironman run, 100% complete, all maps above D, none of my officers have died or resigned, one was incapacitated once. I got my the World and gold watch, but no the Hermit. How can I know what I am missing from that achievement?

narrow geode
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You need C on port

nimble robin
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A+ on port

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Only got D on school, all others are A or better

narrow geode
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You said one of your teammates got incapacitated
That also affects it

nimble robin
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But yet I got the watch?

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Still, the original question was, is there any way to figure out what I am missing or messed up

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I don't want to start it all over again why_god

tacit gull
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Do you just have an A+ on port or did you get the A+ on this run?

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Also did any officers resign?

nimble robin
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None of the officers resign, everyone is alive and got A+ on this run. I have S from port in free game.

tacit gull
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then i'm not quite sure what happened

nimble robin
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Me neither, this is my fourth time I am trying to get that hermit to pop and willing to give in already ThisIsFine

narrow geode
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Resigning does not affect the hermit

tacit gull
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Try port again, if that doesn't work you're out of luck i think

narrow geode
nimble robin
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Also no mods active

tacit gull
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even if they don't die?

nimble robin
narrow geode
nimble robin
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ah well... here we go once again then

tacit gull
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that is extremely dumb

nimble robin
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that really takes value out from the paramedic perk

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veteran, armorer and nutritionist ftw

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and go full blazing, kill everyone

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at least got the watch already, don't have to mind that anymore

tacit gull
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I genuienly think all of the perks minus the free arrests are meaningless

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why would i get more morale on arrests when i can just get more arrests

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intimidator + negotiator = entire rooms just give up

nimble robin
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fair point

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intimidator + negotiator + armorer

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because there is always this one fool spraying his ak from the other side of the map

patent axle
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Woah the active shooters in mirage depend on if you arrest sahid before or after he gives them orders to start shooting people? Wicked smidog

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Does he have custom voicelines for that or nah?

tacit gull
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no smidog

noble pasture
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How do you even S rank Elephant?

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Lucky enemy spawn?

patent axle
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Also one more thing

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To run faster, go into low ready and run, its faster than normal walking

twilit mulch
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or simply get some teammates to do it with you - easy peasy lemon squeezy

patent axle
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Going in with your team is for cAAAT

twilit mulch
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player teammates, not AI

patent axle
#

Still applies

twilit mulch
#

šŸ¤¦ā€ā™‚ļø

patent axle
twilit mulch
patent axle
#

Imagine needing teammates for an active shooter situation

twilit mulch
#

what's wrong with having friends?

patent axle
#

Nothing i just dont have any so i take it out on other people crycat

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If i hurt others the pain goes away right?

twilit mulch
#

also, what kind of "spetsnaz" are you if you're there to rescue hostages? No such thing as hostages for spetsnaz, only ... incapacitated hostiles

patent axle
twilit mulch
#

ah, a man of culture

patent axle
#

🫔

twilit mulch
#

🫔

patent axle
#

Oh yeah i got a sweet deal on a full ratnik set on ebay

twilit mulch
#

😱

patent axle
#

This shit is sweet šŸ™

twilit mulch
#

repro or?

patent axle
#

Yeah ofc

twilit mulch
#

still awesome

#

may it serve you long and well 🫔

patent axle
#

They dont just let civilians have russian army issue obviously but its very realistic

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Thank you so much šŸ‘

sick citrus
#

I'm pushing new personal bests on Relapse
One day I'll beat it 😭

patent axle
#

Crazy ass mission

sick citrus
#

fr

gray heath
#

I can't wait to see what they do to relapse when hard mode comes out

patent axle
#

It will be hell on earth šŸ™ 😭

bold sky
#

isnt relapse just shotgun haven

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suspect that can be one tap by slug or just hallway buckshot leg

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theres prolly not a better map for shotgun than that map now that i think about it the connector between 2 buildings if you enter from default side is the only part where buck isnt great but everywhere is hallway

gray heath
#

they said they're adding traps to more maps on hard mode and there's no way that a map about barricaded terrorists who are planning to blow up a hospital won't have traps on it

twilit mulch
#

depends how long it took D-platoon to respond to the scene

shell bridge
#

Is there any special evidence to secure in the "Spider" mission? I rescued all civilians, apprehended George, brought order to chaos. Am I just missing some suspect weapon evidence or is there any other evidence too?

twilit mulch
#

there are no "item" soft objectives you need to call in

shell bridge
#

It hasn't auto-ended, that's why I'm asking, its only "Soft" completed

twilit mulch
#

must be evidence on unsecured suspect

shell bridge
#

Or an unrestrained suspect, can it be that also?

twilit mulch
#

aye

shell bridge
#

Ok so it was a unsecured suspect weapon

twilit mulch
#

there we go

shell bridge
#

Funny how there is no special evidence when you could report the camera reels and the suitcase of cash for evidence, not hardcore convicting evidence, but evidence none-the-less

twilit mulch
#

couldn't agree more

shell bridge
#

Also noticed Spider mission level has random distant gunshots

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first I thought it was the suspects in the building taunting you to come in by shooting

twilit mulch
#

aye, that's a cool addition

shell bridge
#

And its not thunder, that sounds different

twilit mulch
#

yup, it's a dodgy neighbourhood that's why

hard stag
#

how do i get beat cop achievement? i completed narcos using only usp and let ai use normal rifles without grenades/lanunchers

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and without mirrorgun

patent axle
shell bridge
#

nope

patent axle
#

Wierd

shell bridge
#

Hey, between camera reels and possibly 100k in cash in a suitcase, and a "legal" looking glock, I would let him have the gun šŸ‡ŗšŸ‡ø

patent axle
#

Yeah but its california, the communist government wont let citizens exercise their 2nd amendment rights let alone criminals

young ore
#

Yo I'm tryna find a new loadout could someone suggest one

dark drift
#

full on FSB gear and equipment with swat 4 russian voice dub mod

#

best roleplay you'll find out here

mild plinth
past gyro
patent axle
lusty wigeon
#

we just tried dorms for the millionth time. finishing everything perfectly, except always missing evidence. guns or whatever seem to no appear on the map. this is super annoying :/

old kernel
#

try this, if you find suspects with no weapon on them, let them get back up and theyll drop one

amber dock
#

only way to circumvent it is to use mods atm

lusty wigeon
old kernel
#

the knives are bugged too so idk

rich quartz
#

Me when the ready is not

#

So has anyone noticed the same creepy humming tone that can be heard in sins of the father is also present in Lawmaker??

patent axle
#

Are you talking about the distorted star spangled banner?

rich quartz
patent axle
rich quartz
patent axle
#

Ah man gunfire is music to my ears

#

Its just such a relaxing sound

rich quartz
#

You got the music turned off?

patent axle
#

No i mean i like gunfire

#

Such beautiful sounds

rich quartz
patent axle
#

Its relaxing

rich quartz
patent axle
rich quartz
patent axle
#

"Uh yes hello police?"

#

šŸ‘®ā€ā™‚ļø pistolleft

rich quartz
vagrant zephyr
#

Wait wrong hands

Uhh

He left handed

patent axle
#

LET ME SEE THOSE BAL- I MEAN HANDS

#

pistolright šŸ‘®ā€ā™‚ļø

rustic robin
hasty canyon
#

Should I get the deluxe ron on xbox so I get the dlcs or are they not worth it?

brisk scaffold
#

It's worth it bro

stark pagoda
#

Definitely worth it

limber night
# hasty canyon Should I get the deluxe ron on xbox so I get the dlcs or are they not worth it?

I'd say dlc1 maps are ight, dlc 2 maps are kinda a mixed bag as imo the oil rig is the only good map in that pack. Dlc2 also introduces a gimmick that is quite useless in the long run and it's present on every map from that dlc.

As for cosmetics, they're pretty meh, DLC1 are def much better than DLC2 (the vbss gear is ight), cuz at least it doesn't come with clipping issues or boots that are on wrong sides.

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Depanding on how much deluxe costs, I would only go for DLC1 as it's more consistent in it's content than DLC2

void hamlet
#

can i install ready or not and still get tactical missions/gameplay or will i need dlc

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or mods?

limber night
#

What's the tactical missions/gameplay? That's the whole shtick of this game lol

#

The DLCs just add 3 new maps (6 in total) and a couple of cosmetics

void hamlet
#

i was gonna wait until the same sale but im thinking about just buying it rn anyways. people were telling me ready or not isnt actually tactical and that youtubers were just making the ron look a certain way and that the game is like rainbow six siege. i just dont know what i dont know about the game if that makes sense? but i play zero hour and that game is ok but ready or not looks way cooler and more polished plus i want to play as us swat/police and not bangledash special forces lol.

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im just wondering if theres any mods i should install that would make my game better or if i should just see what the vanilla game is like first

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or if theres at least any mods for gear or cool swat mods

limber night
#

RoN is not like Siege

#

But it def feels mode like old R6 games than SWAT4 imo

#

It is tactical as you have to think a bit while playing, ofc youtubers play the game in a certain way to "sell" the tactical feeling more (which results in cringe tbh)

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You cannot just rush in guns blazing (unless you're lucky) and finish the mission like that, you have objectives to do and not completing one can destroy your mission ranking

void hamlet
#

also 1 more question

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does the dlc bundle include the ready or not base game as well?

#

like the game itself and the dlcs?

wraith gale
pine drum
#

I love watching the AI clean up once we're done clearing the area

wraith gale
#

Watching this chat makes me more impatient waiting for ronsole lol

limber night
#

Personally I would only recommend buying the game first then DLCs separetly, so you can return them in case you won't like any of em

void hamlet
#

are there any good ai or gear mods i should install?

#

sorry if im asking a lot of questions

#

just trying to get a good experience out of my money

limber night
#

As for gear, plenty. Just make sure it ain't outdated

limber night
#

Kinda feels weird to recommend some mods cuz every mod I've commed so far has 100k+ downloads in total lol

#

BCM/Colt from Doughnut having the majority of em

void hamlet
#

yo

#

which launch option do i choose

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Play Ready or Not (DirectX 12)

Play Ready or Not (DirectX 11)

Play Safe Mode (No Mods)

Launch Clean Mods / Save Data

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this is for steam launch btw

pine drum
#

Does anyone else like to watch the officers carry out the arrested and bodies?

covert aurora
#

Safe mode disables mods

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And clean mods/save data means removing the mod data you have and any records and unlocks you have.

inner kelp
#

Will you guys ever add a left handed option?

void hamlet
#

why did all my most of my unlocked gear dissapeara after starting a new game and deleting my old save?

wraith gale
void hamlet
#

it was already unlocked WITH the new game

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and then i restarted my progress and now its not even showing up in the customization locker

void hamlet
wraith gale
void hamlet
wraith gale
#

Idk how im misunderstanding

void hamlet
#

u dont understand

wraith gale
void hamlet
#

listen let me explain better for u

wraith gale
void hamlet
# wraith gale

i just installed Ready or Not, these gear and items were ALREADY available and unlocked before i even completed a single mission. then i delete my save and start a new one. most of the gear that was unlocked isnt even in the menu anymore or it is unlocked.

wraith gale
void hamlet
#

im also just genuinely confused why it completely disappeared

void hamlet
#

a couple of times

wraith gale
#

Then I think you legit wiped everything. Idrk anything about the game, but that’s my only answer.

void hamlet
wraith gale
void hamlet
patent axle
wraith gale
void hamlet
#

i even reset my char to default

wraith gale
#

Idk then gang, someone else should be able to answer your question.

zinc rapids
#

hi

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if a civilian isn't getting on the floor after flashbangs and stingers, do I need to restart

#

I think they also have a bomb strapped if that helps

hazy token
#

yell for compliance

narrow geode
noble pasture
#

Lethal Obsession is alone making me Alt F4

#

those motherfuckers 2 shot SWAT in Full Ceramic

#

what kinda fuck ass coding did they get?

cursive minnow
#

They just know how to kill you better smidog

noble pasture
#

just spammed CS gas

crude prism
noble pasture
crude prism
#

wat

stone bay
noble pasture
#

Fuuuuck

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I had cleared Ides of March

#

open the last door, it was tripped

twilit mulch
#

tripper?! we saw that!

noble pasture
#

I die after "Order to chaos completed"

twilit mulch
#

🄶

noble pasture
#

shit fuck

twilit mulch
#

RoN gives us valuable life lessons, doesn't it

noble pasture
#

no it fucking doesnt

twilit mulch
noble pasture
#

also what fucking grenades kill through walls?

twilit mulch
#

not like you have armoured concrete there

stone bay
#

The ones with FMJ shrapnel

crude prism
noble pasture
noble pasture
#

Any tips for uhh Sinous Trail?

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I think it's first mission with heavy armor

twilit mulch
dreamy rover
#

any good mod advice ? i already use the sig mcx spear, noveske n4 (glitched bcz of gunfighter mod) and gunfighter

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and more attachment

crude prism
dreamy rover
#

my noveske is replacing the LVAR and when i downloaded gunfighter it changed the name back to ā€œLVARā€, with visual of the noveske and i can’t attach any custom stuff on it

#

i have it without flashlight or ir strobe

limber night
#

Use Ballistic Noveske tbh, it replaces the ARWC and isn't glitched

dreamy rover
#

i just found it thank you i will replace it

dreamy rover
limber night
dreamy rover
#

nice thank you!

#

i need to find a good one that change our team appearance

dreamy rover
#

found one but a year ago, idk if it need to get updated to work but i’ll try

patent axle
#

This is a hashbrown, its a brown made out of hash

noble pasture
#

on ends of the earth the tran brothers accidentally shot their own mom

#

she had a gun shot wound around her liver area, I think she was stabelized

noble pasture
#

got Greased Palms S rank on first try

#

Got shot up and got to bleeding like 4 times

#

My Judge must either have wolverine type healing or most cracked doctors work for the police

wet moat
#

nah, he's on the special stuff that most of Los Suenos is on (or he's a sleeper agent for FISA/MLO/USIA)

frozen seal
#

guys is there a way to activate helmet cam in replay mode

modest berry
#

hello guys

#

can I ask if using a mod that unlocks every customization option will get me banned or in any trouble?

#

and another one that adds fanmade gear

modest berry
#

I just don't wanna risk anything

shut echo
noble pasture
modest berry
noble pasture
#

So you get blown up behind the door you least expect it

shut echo
noble pasture
#

I am trying S rank Ironman

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I only had to Alt F4 3 times

#

2 on Lethal Obsession and once on Ides of March

#

Even got fucking Greased Palms first try

#

My Judge will have to retire early on medical charges

#

I keep getting shot up

#

Fucking Suspect AI only ever aims for limbs

#

A guy on Gas Station shot 3 times at me, a bullet landed in a leg each, 3rd landed in my right arm

#

What Tarkov scav, fuck ass aim is that?

patent axle
#

What was that one mod that had the sheriffs patches on the vests?

patent axle
noble pasture
#

Also we are not sheriffs

patent axle
#

Thats where i get my mods anyway but someone reccomended a mod that adds sheriffs patches on the vests

#

I needs a link boss šŸ™

noble pasture
#

I don't know the mod bro

cursive minnow
#

Has Sheriff variants.

patent axle
plush dome
#

Give us the ronsole

noble pasture
#

Did Valley of The Dolls S rank first try

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8 guards funelled in a hallway

#

I just bean shotgunned them all

plush dome
noble pasture
#

Living is worse

plush dome
#

Fair

noble pasture
#

It's an easy life sentence

#

Pepper in some murder of minors along side the cp

plush dome
noble pasture
#

I found both bombs on elephant

#

none of the suspects until it was too late

wraith basin
noble pasture
blissful harness
#

Got bored with the current maps in the game and kinda wanna write a fanfic in the RoN universe.

noble pasture
#

beat Rust Belt with every suspect arrested and only 1 suspect incapacitated. A clean A+

noble pasture
blissful harness
rich quartz
#

Why does judge always move his weapon when yelling for compliance?

amber dock
#

weak arms

shell bridge
#

does vanilla stab vest already have a belt with zipcuffs on it?

amber dock
#

You have zip cuffs no matter what

#

And unlimited too

#

no matter what

shell bridge
#

I mean, the 3d model itself

amber dock
#

oh

#

I don't think so

shell bridge
#

It does for me, lemme check without mods

amber dock
#

Might depend on belt you're wearing too

shell bridge
#

It seems like vanilla stab-proof vest adds a forced belt

#

Is there any way to remove that forced belt?

#

Even selecting a belt in customization menu just makes you have 2 belts

amber dock
#

idk

torpid rain
#

I just completed every map at s rank including dlcs, my will to live has significantly gone down

torpid rain
#

i dont think getting hermit will be that bad, i just hate twisted nerve

teal lynx
#

what are your guys consensus on preemptive strikes?

#

like barricaded suspect = M67 Frag type reaction?

gentle void
keen gust
#

What’s the mod that makes it so there’s no weapon sway when ads

amber dock
keen gust
#

Do mods disable achievements

amber dock
#

Neither does it for cosmetic unlocks

keen gust
#

No way

amber dock
#

So feel free to use mods

keen gust
#

That is awesome

#

Do other players see my cosmetic mods or do they also have to download them too

amber dock
#

Cosmetic mods are client sided

keen gust
#

All right, thanks that’s what I thought

maiden basalt
#

i have an issue where my ron crashes when loading in, im at the homescreen and click continue or host friends game and when it loads it loads to like 98% then my game freezes, it usually runs fine

noble pasture
#

last terrorist on Neon tomb put his forehead against my bean bag shotgun nulifying the S run

#

dude tilted his head as he rushed me

opaque zealot
#

i wish my mouse had a 3rd side button i could assign shove to for this very reason

#

so many runs could've been saved if shove was more accessible

noble pasture
#

NEON tomb is fucking with me

#

3 alt f4's

#

they push me always when I am alone

upbeat mesa
#

is the game ever gonna get a 5v5 game mode i feel like ive been waiting since 2023 for 5v5

noble pasture
#

but way too glitchy and buggy so the devs removed it

#

revamped the game in solely pve fashion

noble pasture
#

Finally got Neon Tomb

#

Game even cheered me up. The tattoo for it is called "Going for gold"

smoky sand
#

will mods ever come to console in the future

upbeat mesa
noble pasture
#

Did Google Leak the update date?

upbeat mesa
#

that kinda sucks im ngl

noble pasture
#

I am not saying the date, but not sure if it's real either

smoky sand
#

console release šŸ˜”

stable kernel
noble pasture
noble pasture
#

I think the release date of Ron on Xbox has leaked

smoky sand
stable kernel
#

Moderators are community volunteers, not VOID employees

noble pasture
#

Then can I say the month I think the console will drop?

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Not the day

#

I think it drops in July, maybe August latest

#

Very low chance it drops in June

sterile dragon
#

Does anyone know what price it will roughly be when it drops on Xbox?

smoky sand
noble pasture
#

Buuuut consoles get the Dlc free of charge

#

Both of them I believe

stable kernel
#

No

smoky sand
#

the dlc is definitely cheaper than the game

noble pasture
#

What? Is Void not yet satiated with money?

noble pasture
#

Console players are already unfortunate enough to be console players

smoky sand
#

but they have made the only good seat gane in this century

smoky sand
#

pc is coming soon

noble pasture
#

Void monopolised Swat games

smoky sand
noble pasture
smoky sand
#

whats pc like*

noble pasture
#

Uhh

#

Fun

smoky sand
#

šŸ˜”

near viper
#

@gaunt gale Can someone on the VOID team please explain what you need for sleeper agent achievement. I had my friend sit next to me with a stopwatch, and I cleared the whole map (22 suspects) with not even 10 seconds between every kill - no achievement popped up. Is this a known issue where it doesn't pop or are the requirements just not explained well? It is just very frustrating doing such an rng based achievement without knowing whether you are doing it wrong or the games just bugged and it doesn't unlock

gaunt gale
#

You can't kill them.

#

There's a difference between kill or incapacitate.

near viper
#

I see - people online have videos where it looks like they killed the suspects as well as most people saying you are able to kill. Thanks for the clarification, I know the achievement says incapacitate but perhaps it would be worth adding a note or something somewhere, saying you can't kill specifically? There is a lot of confusion online and I know others including myself have spent an insane amount of hours trying to get it. Thanks for clearing it up though!

gaunt gale
#

The incap system is unfortunately a little fucky sometimes

near viper
#

I have learnt that the hard way after 20 hours of trying 😩 Thank you for your help though and for your work on such an amazing game!

limber night
#

Remember to pre order to get the three "new" guns as well or otherwise they'll be gone forever!

swift coral
#

Guys, what do you think—how likely is it that what was shown in the Xbox Store about July 14 for console is actually true?

limber night
#

It could be true or not, nothing in between

#

it's a 50/50, so don't get yourself excited

#

But also wouldn't be the first time xbox/MS leaked smth

stone bay
#

chat i just saw something

#

i cant send images here for some reason but apparently the release date for console isnt until july

#

courtesy of reddit

stone bay
#

yeah

#

im taking it with a grain of salt though

hallow tree
#

we should have Vietnam War era uniforms/helmets/gear modded into the game fr. Idk itd tickle the parasite in my brain that makes me larp historical stuff :3c

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also i feel like itd compliment the m16/car 15 mods that have been going out recently

limber night
crude prism
#

car15 but bastardize it with rails and mounts

limber night
#

Just play Rising Storm tbh

limber night
crude prism
#

u get old rifle but they ALL come with larue accarizer

limber night
#

Someone watched HOP recently

crude prism
#

seeing this makes me feel like AM

desert grove
stone bay
#

wait

desert grove
#

It's fake

limber night
#

šŸ’€

desert grove
#

What did we learn today class? Don't believe anything you read on reddit or wiki

stone bay
#

i knew something was fishy

crude prism
#

(there is seemingly a real leak, I edit that photo tho to meme)

desert grove
limber night
crude prism
#

I'm not gonna post the real leak in here. (for reasons that would probably result in me losing image perms after having them for a week)

limber night
#

Can I have image perms too to post funny gifs

crude prism
#

ask kaminsky or sumn

#

idk who gave to me, just had it one day

#

personally, I think it was Judge himself

limber night
#

Omg RoN Judge?

#

The caggest of them all

desert grove
limber night
desert grove
#

Lol go touch grass. You literally live in this discord trolling people

limber night
#

(Just takes one look at my post history)

crude prism
#

if you're not trolling, you're not doing the interweb right

#

everything has to be lightly dusted with irony, deep fried, and just barely engaging enough to draw out responses

limber night
#

Is being negative bout ron n void even trolling or being truthful

limber night
crude prism
#

I think Void catches a lot of unnecessary flak, but they are also basically the center of attention for all tacticool at the moment, while still being overwhelmingly indie

#

it's understandable

wraith gale
limber night
#

Yeah and RoN ain't one of em

wraith gale
#

I’m talking about indie games as a whole

limber night
#

Tbh only indie being better than current aaa I can think of atm is Clair Obscure

hallow tree
#

(alr play rs2 im a little sick of mp getting absolutely railed from across the map)

desert grove
limber night
hallow tree
crude prism
limber night
#

Nahhh RoN ain't better than current AAA games cuz it's as bad DepoShrug

crude prism
#

I'm gonna get modded for spamming this gif at u 24/7

limber night
#

Lmaoo

#

Sounds good to me tbh

crude prism
#

honestly if RoN isn't the tacticool industry leader right now, it's gotta be ground branch

#

(now someone use the gif on me)

limber night
#

GB is actually such a weird game. It's been in development for almost 2 decades and the team currently has a pretty nice size

#

Yet it still plays like a 2010 Unity tactical game from a browser

crude prism
#

fr

limber night
#

Except those were more complete than GB is

crude prism
#

no but did you consider that there are like FOUR whole weapon positions?

#

high ready, low ready, point shoot, and aim!

NO OTHER GAME HAS THESE

limber night
#

Oh yeah you can also move attachments around for no fucking gameplay reason

#

How about you move your dih around some huzzes first

crude prism
#

they should add attachment randomization to the AI enemies, that would be cool

#

spend 12 months doing that, then call it a MAJOR UPDATE

#

I'm stuck in the loop again. Slopbranch hate loop. I am stunlocked.

limber night
#

Tbh if the only remarkable thing bout GB is the fact u can move attachments ( which is useless ), it tells you a lot about what this game is lol

#

And the audiacity to raise the price few years ago too 😭

crude prism
#

the more interesting customization is with the gear imo, being able to actually set up a rig/belt setup in a purposeful way

#

again, not gameplay tho

limber night
crude prism
#

18 year dev time
still no rudimentary armor systems

not even something as lazy as designating certain bones with damage reduction

limber night
#

GB is definitely a game of all times

crude prism
#

THE game of all time

limber night
#

The game

#

GB is the case of games, unlimited games, but no games

crude prism
#

GB console release when

limber night
#

It's literally a glorified demo you have to pay for cuz you're a stupid tacticool games cock sucker (I bought the game)

lost inlet
crude prism
hallow tree
pine drum
#

Someone needs to make an M60 mod because the LAPD actually has two in their armory

magic hound
hallow tree
#

we need 60s and 70s larp gear PLEASEEEE

#

the parasite in my head itches for it

crude prism
#

But unless you're into the whole, "joining randoms for online games thing", stay away from arma 3 if you dont have friends that are gonna join in.

Reforger is kinda hot right now though, so the whole community is friendly and evolving with the new players

heavy cedar
#

I taught some noobs land nav

#

Brought a tear to my eye

light nest
#

alright chat, what's your fav gun to use in RoN (I'm a M1014 kinda guy)

pine drum
# hallow tree true

Heh, some random criminal as they watch their friend get blown apart by a hail a 7.62Ɨ51mm

light nest
hallow tree
light nest
#

what about the uhh George Brixley

pine drum
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But yeah, LAPD SWAT has 2 M60 LMGs in the event that "SWAT is overwhelmed"

hallow tree
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AV is just the head of said operation and like melts kids in his basement after doing the worst things imaginable to children

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Brixley just sells them to AV which is still fucking abysmal obviously but he's not the one making the "material"

light nest
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ngl, is Gerald Scott kinda of a good guy...? Like he killed cops and all but he and the women cult leader seem to be the only ones who know about the MLO project that even Judge doesn't know about

hallow tree
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true

pine drum
magic hound
crude prism
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fair enough

hallow tree
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as someone who lives in LA, my mom having survived the LA riots etc, those M60s are entirely necessary

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as well as the points you brought up

pine drum
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It's seriously insane how well the cartel is armed in Mexico. I know the reason that they don't do it here is because overt violence like that in the U.S wouldn't be tolerated and that we'd take that shit as a declaration of war. But Colorado police had a hard time stopping a bulldozer with armor. How hard of a time do you think the police will have trying to stop an armored Toyota helix with a mounted machinegun?

shy tulip
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Only an hour or so once NYPD gets its F16s

magic hound
# crude prism fair enough

Btw you are known for data parsing the game files aren't you? Do you have any knowledge into how the recoil values interact/act exactly from the weapon assets?

hallow tree
pine drum
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Texas Confederate Air force or some shit.

crude prism
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there's like 30 different entries that define weapon handling

magic hound
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Some of it works as intended by me, but there's still stuff missing, there is also the camera shake values which are separate

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Anyway, thx for the advice

fringe gate
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I just S on valley of the dolls

tiny quail
severe apex
untold ridge
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you nabcakes I AM BETTER THAN ALL OF YOU HAHAHA

noble pasture
lost inlet
knotty jay
noble pasture
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a suspect offed himself on a S rank run

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why?

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I only hit him with one bean bag and he decided to blow his brains

limber night
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Valid crash out

proud vapor
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Im slightly annoyed at even attaempting to beat greased plams as I get lit up by 5 firing squads at once

limber night
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Yeah it's a bad map. Just clear around the buildings first then start going inside

forest summit
limber night
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Wasn't the bulldozer only taken out cuz one of the SWAT guys happened to own a .50 cal

forest summit
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No

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The dozer got stuck and he killed himself

limber night
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Oh I'm thinking of different event then

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Cuz there was quite a similar one lol

forest summit
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I'm assuming we're talking Marvin and his killdozer

limber night
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Probably