👮ron-discussion

[somber urchin]

what do you mean?

[quick narwhal]

should i have to shoot about 4-8 times for it to actually make someone go waltuh coughs

[amber dock]

Better range,faster and less risky

[somber urchin]

I don't get the score system I have 0 casualities, all objectives maxed out yet only B tier

[gleaming jackal]

Anyone tryna do Ides of march with me.

[amber dock]

Let me guess you shot all suspects so you got 5 points each for them compared to arresting them alive and getting 35 points for each

[gleaming jackal]

Tryna do it

[fringe fjord]

dont kill everyone

[grizzled pagoda]

Yo guys

If I put a mod on, and S tier a map will it save my grade

[amber dock]

Uh no

[grizzled pagoda]

Fuck

[amber dock]

But it still counts towards achievements etc if that’s your concern

[grizzled pagoda]

oh I see

Wait how does that work

Like, when it says “best grade” it won’t update your score if mods are on? But achievements will work?

[jaunty knoll]

Yeah

[somber urchin]

last mission was anticlimatic, just when we uncovered some shit the game ends

[amber dock]

That's how you build suspense and tension

called a cliff hanger

[gentle void]

So now im bored i go to neon tomb, shoot dem terrorists with less lethal, cuff them, take them to a room and bomb them

am i the only one who does this

[gleaming jackal]

Yes.

[stone bay]

Yup.

[gentle void]

💀

[silk spear]

On the "Relapse"/Hopsital map, is there like any lore on why there is the occasional spawn of a female suspect?

[amber dock]

she's part of the hand

that's it

[silk spear]

Oh so one of those dumb Western women that joins a terrorist organization for the clout?
You know what, that makes all the sense actually.

[somber urchin]

she could be a convert

alright time for a non lethal run for the S tier

Elephant is gonna be so fun (not)

[glass heart]

even if you do everything right you lose out on points by killing/ incapacitating suspects, past b you get a higher score the more suspects you arrest, ofcourse culminating to s rank if you arrest all of them

[sterile raft]

Maybe I’m crazy but since when do random ai swat spawn in to remove hostages

[stone bay]

Those are called trailers, and they’ve been in the gsme for a while.

[sterile raft]

I swear I’ve never noticed them until just now

[narrow geode]

They only appear in quick play and only after you complete everything

[sour shale]

Is it possible to get S with 2 players?

[stone bay]

Probably

Don’t kill and cuff them

[ocean roost]

How can I talk to Doc? He's nagging me a lot after I finish the missions

[wind matrix]

Any news on the console release date

[atomic breach]

I've tried to run in w beanbags and even then im never fast enough to stop the shooters, so thats when I got the Scar and went free game on the 4.

[hard stag]

did anyone have issues with completing "Party Crasher" achievement?
i finished mirage at sea with 8/8 civilians alive and didnt get achievement

[tired shard]

Does anyone have a recommendation on what sidearm I should run for my npc teammates that would give them the best chance at incapacitating suspects without killing them?

Killing them would still be okay, I just would prefer to incapacitate (I know the pepperball pistol is coming out soon but I gotta wait for that)

[pearl ether]

Thanks guys for the Game you're making. It's the best thing I've played in a long time. The atmosphere, gameplay, and sound design. It's clear that there's still a lot to work on, but what a lot of room for creativity and ideas. This SWAT fighter's daily routine game can be improved endlessly. I hope you guys will have all the necessary resources and the main desire to continue working on this fantastic Ready or Not game. Perhaps you are the only developers whose add-ons I buy without reading into what they give. I just want to support you and your work. Thank you so much for such an incredible experience. In the future, I hope your game will only get better and more immersive, immersing gamers in the everyday life of a SWAT fighter.

[scenic fjord]

Wait, the pauldrons of the Heavy Armor provide zero protection?

[sick citrus]

Hola! Saw in a video from an early access build that the maps had various mission types one could chose (bomb difusal, crazed gunman, hostage situation) - is this feature still present or is it a thing of the past?
Seeing there's a healthy modding scene here, wouldn't surprise me if it's added in one way or another 😅

[pseudo plaza]

no game changed a lot

since early access

[tired shard]

Yeah, each "gamemode" is locked to and dependent on the map because the story line is heavily intertwined with each map, so changing the "gamemode" changes the situation and the story so to speak

but yeah would be cool to see them try to reimplement some stuff like that

[sick citrus]

I see. Thanks :)

[tired shard]

I think I heard that this next free dlc they're releasing will include previous removed maps so you never know

[sick citrus]

fingers crossed ^^

[haughty crest]

havent played RON in a whike

should I get on just to kill voll

[zinc spade]

yes, absolutely

[teal cloak]

just lost my first Ironman run on Rust Belt because I got hit by a crazy cross-cave headshot. Was on track to get the no officer deaths achievement too 😄

[stone bay]

100%, but make sure to arrest him first. It feels better.

[paper pawn]

can someone help me my custom weapon slots are just a blank with slot it doesnt even say anything its just blank white slot

[narrow verge]

any update when it comes out on xbox?

[wet moat]

might have some info when Dev Log is released

[round pagoda]

it's not even on pc yet

[haughty crest]

LMAO- watching the new iceberg video posted by Issac Morgan and at 16:28 he says "furries" like they're just as bad as George Brixley its funny

[paper pawn]

i have a question

[haughty crest]

he says "furries are indeed canon" like its one of the biggest reveals ever

[round pagoda]

forbidden

[paper pawn]

bruh

[haughty crest]

no you dont

[paper pawn]

yes i do

[round pagoda]

don't ask

[paper pawn]

its pmoing i am trying everything and it wont work

i will ask

[haughty crest]

what?

[paper pawn]

like ok

[round pagoda]

bro didn't ask

hurry up damn

time's up

[paper pawn]

my custom guns i have arent loading there attachments they are just blank slots

like its just white -_

[paper pawn]

read it u monkey

[paper pawn]

too much words

[sick citrus]

holy shit this game is good

||not late to the party at all||

[round pagoda]

ready or not 2 is better

[sick citrus]

you're better

[round pagoda]

[sick citrus]

is it authorized force to shoot someone through a door that is pointing a gun at the door?=

[cloud hedge]

If they have the gun raised it’s fair game

[sick citrus]

cool ty!

[shell cliff]

shoot and find out

[round pagoda]

also words to live by if you can't tell if someone is a suspect or civilian

[shell cliff]

shoot and find out too 💀

[scenic fjord]

Do civilians still quickdraw phones like suspects do with handguns?

[wet moat]

sometimes (i've noticed it mostly when doing Valley of the Doll when arresting the daughter)

[keen gust]

how do i get the m4a1

[round pagoda]

1 billion dollars

[torpid rain]

i think i brought a man back to life, I blew a door he was behind with c4 and it said report dead suspect but i shot him with beanbag and he came back to life

[thick rivet]

one thing i do not really like about this game is turning a corner and having a female running at you with a shotgun

[stone bay]

anyone have that weapons stat google sheet

[hallow tree]

https://www.nexusmods.com/readyornot/mods/91?tab=posts

WE NEED A PROPER REMAKE OF THIS MOD

THIS SHIT WAS AWESOME

[stone bay]

https://www.nexusmods.com/readyornot/mods/2939

[hallow tree]

NOT the same

i alr have it, its literally just uniforms and armor

no grenades or gun reskins or anything else the old mod had

nor does it have the UIU

plus the new one is literally just a low effort patch reskin

[stone bay]

Ah, that sucks.

[hallow tree]

it really does

thats why we need the old one updated or someone to remake it themselves making it either the same or better!!!!!111

[scenic fjord]

Can you still unlock cosmetics if you have mods on?

Because I saw in gameplay of “Mod Unlocked: Unofficial Score” thing.

[stone bay]

yes

[stone bay]

To my knowledge, that doesn't do anything

[scenic fjord]

Cool. Also do the shoulder pads of the Heavy Armor model not provide protection?

[stone bay]

I don't know

[hallow tree]

no

its a cosmetic thing

i personally think heavy armor looks like shit unless ur running a juggernaut operator

with like an lmg or saiga or smth

otherwise just use a normal plate carrier bc it just simply looks better

(plus ppl who just use the heavy armor vest dont usually know they look like shit and are typically new at the game, so if you dont wanna look like a noob just run a normal plate carrier)

or if you like it anyways dont listen to my silly ass

do whatever tf you want thats just my 2 cents

[scenic fjord]

Does the crotch plate also protect against bullets or just my virginity? /j

[hallow tree]

just your virginity

(unless they have a knife then you can say goodbye to your juevos)

[scenic fjord]

Currently downloading the game (9 hrs. left until sale end.)

I’d probably just run Ceramics Light all throughout. Maybe steel for enemies that hit harder like Neon Tomb or Elephant.

[hallow tree]

well you can run heavy armor, but have a normal looking plate carrier

[wraith basin]

Steel plates are broken at the moment. Use ceramics

[scenic fjord]

Like vanilla or mods?

Got it.

[hallow tree]

#🎬ron-clips-and-media

for example

[crude patrol]

hello, why am i having 70 to 50 fps when im playing with AI swats? how can i fix this?

[shell cliff]

what cpu n gpu u have?

[crude patrol]

ryzen 5 6600 then a 3050

[shell cliff]

that might answer why 🤔 did u plug in ur laptop charger for more fps?

[crude patrol]

yeah

[shell cliff]

u can try using FSR3 for free fps

[crude patrol]

when i play solo my fps are 120 to 90

[crude patrol]

oh wait i didnt know this

im just using dlss lol

[scenic fjord]

Or Lossless Scaling. Got me to run Division 2 on good graphics with a mid-range laptop.

[shell cliff]

DLSS is more to quality , FSR imo is free fps

[crude patrol]

thank you for the information! i will try that once the game finished downloading

[crude patrol]

how do i fix lossless scaling if ever?

[scenic fjord]

No, it's like an app. It uses AI to generate frames for you. Say you have the 2x setting on, every other frame will have an extra frame.

Less punishing to your graphics card and processor.

[shell cliff]

fake frames moment

[crude patrol]

oh my

possible virus?

[shell cliff]

that 7$ app on steam? 💀

[scenic fjord]

Nope. Got Very Positive reviews.

[shell cliff]

technically no its just AI technology to generates frame

[crude patrol]

i thought dlss helps you with fps if you put it on performance mode

[crude patrol]

i will check it out

[shell cliff]

both is upscalling feature 🤷‍♂️ FSR = amd , DLSS = nvidia

[scenic fjord]

I got the Division 2 to run 45-60 FPS on a Ryzen 5 4500U and an integrated graphics card.

[crude patrol]

so which is better

for fps

dlss or fsr

[shell cliff]

ur choice 🤷‍♂️

[scenic fjord]

Por que no los dos? Try both, see for yourself which is healthier for your PC.

[crude patrol]

😔

[shell cliff]

imo i will choose fsr bcus u wont really lose that much quality , if dlss ur quality will turn like small pixels the moment u put it on performance/ultra perf

[crude patrol]

ill try fsr

[scenic fjord]

So should I try and complete all levels to get "a feel of it" before I download mods?

[stone bay]

No, two or three should be more than enough to give you a general sense of gameplay.

[scenic fjord]

Most of what I want to download anyway are just cosmetics and new weapons/textures of them. Maybe Gunfighter because of the 25 slots.

Good thing I didn't wait for the summer sale because come June 2025, there's a 12% tariff on all Steam games in my country.

[tired jungle]

Ron doesn't need upscaling

Also DLAA already helps a lot on performance compared to traditional AA with no loss in quality

[scenic fjord]

Gah damn, used lossless scaling, got 50 FPS but everything still looks grainy for some reason.

[scenic fjord]

Cool, got an A+ on TYCA.

Also how do you get to switch officers?

[cursive minnow]

You mean switch your character? it's a multiplayer only thing.

[shell cliff]

note that not all players have high end device

[scenic fjord]

I mean like officers in Commander Mode. I got two Anxious officers after TYCA, but it seems I can’t send them to therapy or switch out.

[cursive minnow]

I don't really play commander mode but iirc you should just be able to switch them by clicking on the officer you want to switch and then clicking on the officer you want to switch them with. Afaik there shouldn't be at any point where this is restricted as long as you have other officers to swap them out with.

[tired jungle]

Any gpu capable of DLSS is also capable of running ron without it. DLAA does wonders and ron is for the most part a cpu bound game

[shell cliff]

hahaha......man think again ron using UE5

[tired jungle]

Using UE5 doesn't necessarily mean it's graphically demanding you genius

[shell cliff]

take hide n seek map as example and u tell me 🤣

[tired jungle]

Hide n seek just has some rain and the grainy effect adds more perceived detail than what is actually there. Most ron assets aren't very high quality apart from the ones you mostly draw youe attention towards.

Does the game run well to what it's graphics are? Yeah not really no but it's also not demanding.

It's cpu bound for the most part

[tired jungle]

Typical gamer logic of "it's ue5 so it must bring your pc to it's knees"

Gamers usually don't know fuck all about what they are actually talking

The most stupid animal i know is a trucker

But a gamer is a close second

[shell cliff]

sure sure

[shell cliff]

man if ron uses other engine like RAGE or frostbite it aint that hard to run lmao

[tired jungle]

Low quality bait

[shell cliff]

at least i didnt say unity engine (+ Gta6 uses RAGE 🤷‍♂️ if u say that consider low quality 💀 )

[round pagoda]

they should have used source engine

[shell cliff]

use roblox engine 🤣

[scenic fjord]

Is A+’s criteria no cops/civilians dead, all objectives complete but suspect casualties?

[round pagoda]

Won't get A+ if too many suspect causalities

[scenic fjord]

Noted noted.

[normal plover]

Just S rank at this point

More benefits and easier imo

[gilded canopy]

Gonna try some 3 Letter triad speedruns again. May the RNG gods be with me this time

[scenic fjord]

Any way to solve that issue @amber dock ?

Regarding the brightness in some levels?

[amber dock]

Besides trying the solutions that it says in #❗known-issues-and-fixes sadly I don’t know anymore

If new solutions come we will update the channel with the fix

[patent axle]

Why did no one tell me mirage at sea and leviathan were active shooters 🙏 😭

Like 3 civilians in each mission died and i couldnt do anything about it gng 😭

I mean leviathan is reasonable to be an active shooter level i expected that sure..

But mirage though????

[amber dock]

Gotta get rid of the witnesses

[patent axle]

I mean the swat teams already on the boar theyre gonna hear the gunshots

Theyre gonna put 2 and 2 together after they find corpses real quick

[amber dock]

Yeah so might as well kill the witnesses so no one can testify

Ron lore

[patent axle]

I mean maybe that couldve been kidnapping charges but murder just puts you away forever why go through the trouble?

[amber dock]

That’s assuming they get charged

With the hell hole LS is maybe they can go or get way easier sentences

Just Ron lore

[patent axle]

🙏

[urban walrus]

Maybe RAGE but not Frostbite tho

[amber dock]

What game uses frostbite and what’s the issue with it?

Rage for that matter too?

[urban garden]

Devs should make a shoulder holding and tapping feature when the pointman has a shield like for npc swat or other players

[patent axle]

You really think they get paid enough for that?

[urban garden]

idk just a thought maybe for the next dlc

[shell cliff]

battlefields

[urban walrus]

Battlefield bad company and onward, Need for Speed: The run and onward, Dead Space Remake, FIFA 17 and onward, Mirror's Edge, modern Star Wars Battlefront 1 & 2, Anthem, Mass Effect: Andromeda, 2 modern setting Medal of Honor games, etc.

The problem with the engine is that it was too complex to work with mainly because it lack of many tools that other engines have so instead of you started working on the game right away, you have to make tools for things (that already available in other engines) first before actually making the game itself, BioWare got forced to use it by EA and it caused them so many problems.

There was also a post on Twitter from former Battlefield creative director that basically implied that UE5 is easier to work with compared to Frostbite.

[scenic fjord]

Welp, I tried enjoying it. But the bad saturation/contrast really made it unplayable. Such is life for laptop gaming.

[smoky geyser]

Morning people just want to say that I’ve been thinking of making a beginners handbook to RoN. And I would appreciate any help so if your interested with helping do let let know

[grizzled pagoda]

Remember to shoot the enemy and avoid being shot

[patent axle]

saving civilians is optional

[smoky geyser]

Fair point

[grizzled pagoda]

Ooh I got another one

If you blow someone’s arm off with a shotgun, = can’t restrain them = less work

[patent axle]

Id prefer ball shots

No new generation of criminals 👍

[smoky geyser]

This is all going into the Tips and Tricks section definitely

Right now I split up the sections into 7 Chapters Chapter 1: The Basics
Chapter 2: Your Equipment
Chapter 3: The AI
Chapter 4: Your First Mission
Chapter 5: Tips and Tricks
Chapter 6: Mods
Chapter 7: What’s Next?

[patent axle]

Definitly gotta shoot the balls

Cooter if its a woman

Guarentees no next generation of vicous criminals

[light nest]

well i just watched issac morgan's iceberg video and uh

that was a something

[patent axle]

Bro yaps so much but his videos are

Absolute cinema

[light nest]

yea well he also just uploaded an iceberg video

and well, Judge is a sleeper agent apparently

[patent axle]

Bro is part of the cycle 🔥 🔥 🔥 🗣️ 🗣️ 🗣️

[light nest]

"LIES! DECEPTION!"

[patent axle]

GOVERNMENT AGENTS IN THE SUN 🗣️ 🗣️ 🗣️ 🔥 🔥 🔥

[light nest]

HOW MANY MORE LIES HAVE I BEEN TOLD

WHO ELSE CAN I TRUST ANYMORE

[patent axle]

BIRDS ARENT REALLLL 🗣️ 🗣️ 🗣️ 🔥 🔥 🔥

[light nest]

ARE WOMEN REAL

[patent axle]

NO OFC NOT 🔥 🔥 🔥 💯

[light nest]

HOLY SMOKES HOW MANY MORE LIES HAVE I BEEN TOLD BY LOS SUENOS

[patent axle]

ITS NOT LOS SUENOS MAN ITS THE GOVERNMENT PEOPLE LIVING ON JUPITER

THEY SEE ALL, THEY HEAR ALL

[light nest]

GOOD GRIEF

[patent axle]

INFLATION ISNT REAL EITHER ITS ALL A GOVERNMENT CONSPIRACY 🗣️ 🗣️ 🗣️ 🔥 🔥 🔥

TO KEEP THE POOR POOR AND THE RICH RICHER

EAT THE RICH

[light nest]

seriously tho, i bought RoN for the realistic experience of being a SWAT officer

but just hearing about the lore and stuff, i just can't look at it the same way

[patent axle]

Ron lore goes hard 🙏 🔥 🔥 🔥

Not really that diffrent from real life los angeles 🙏 🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥

[light nest]

dude i don't want to be a police officer who is brought under mind control via some experiment the CIA made

I just want it to be a normal police game, not this whole loop of quackers here and there

[patent axle]

I mean there is swat 4 if youre open to 2005 graphics 🤷

[light nest]

which im not

[patent axle]

Kids these days 👴

[light nest]

Back in YOUR day you guys had stupid gameboys shut up

[patent axle]

Cant live without your "dynamic lighting"

Back in MY DAY

We had to do with 5 polygons PER MAP BOY

And it was STILL IMMERSIVE

When the first far cry came out billions rejoiced 🙏

That was the most realistic game of the 2000s 👴

[patent axle]

AND FOR YOUR INFORMATION YOUNG BLOOD THE GAMEBOY WAS THE GREATEST PIECE OF ENGINEERING IN OUR GENERATION

[stone bay]

"of our generation" 💔 🙏 🥀

[patent axle]

GET OUTT

[stone bay]

oldhead

[patent axle]

You kids wouldnt have your phones and nintendo switches and sh*t without the gameboy 🙏

[stone bay]

xbox 360 for the win, fuck your gameboy old man

[patent axle]

Why you little sh*t i outta come over there and smack the sh#t out you 👴 🦯

[stone bay]

oooooooold

[patent axle]

👴

[near tide]

is it just me or do pistols feel like non lethal atp

[patent axle]

Meh, only in the missions where the suspects are robbers or crackheads they are effective

Bulletproof vests stop EVERY pistol round

[near tide]

even then it takes 3 shots to the chest for them to surrender

[near tide]

true though i think 44. can go through some

[patent axle]

"Surrender" aint nobody surrendering after you hit em with a peashooter 💀 🙏

Matter fact the emts probably gonna be dragging YOUR ass out

[near tide]

i dont think a revolver is a pea shooter but ok

[somber urchin]

did Gunfighter mess with the pistol damage? It feels like everything other than a magnum is a BB gun

and I'm talking against unarmored guys

[bold sky]

9mm generally needs 3 shot to kill to chest even on unarmored targets

and .45 pistol delivery platforms are not great with horrible spread rn so you might just miss a ton of shots

[covert thicket]

hey one question are suspects now more likely to surrender if multiple officer hold them at gun point?

[covert thicket]

the people on the later maps all wear the highest armor yes its effectivly a bb gun there

[grizzled breach]

it'll take 3-4 non lethal shots by a handgun for someone to go into shock and meet the ground dead or not

if you hit the head it's lights out, arteries are simple, you bleed out etc

[final ember]

just me or did they reduce the field of view/visibility of Gas Masks even more?

[reef crystal]

Hey friends do we know if they have any plans of adding k9‘s???

I‘m a dog handler and would be stoked to see dogs being implemented

https://tenor.com/view/run-dash-chased-police-dog-dog-gif-16054945

[amber dock]

No

[reef crystal]

sadness

[austere hawk]

Is the C2 achivement bugged because ive killed plenty of guys with C2 but i still dont have it

[amber dock]

It works

You just have to keep trying until it pops

[quasi tree]

Anyone wants to get A+ on Valley of the Dolls?

I can't thé polo shirt do fuckin badly

[valid raven]

Hello

[somber urchin]

after going non lethal gonna do a third playthrough solo without teammates, is it viable?

[narrow geode]

What do you mean

[somber urchin]

are the later maps doable john wick mode

[valid raven]

Anyone else use stingers like frags?

When do you use flash vs stingers

[narrow geode]

I mean
If you're careful enough
Yes

[valid raven]

I know gas fills a room quickly

[narrow geode]

Flash has a smaller radius

[valid raven]

Yes but why would you use it over gas or stingers

[vagrant zephyr]

I think stingers have a bigger range? Just from experience. The issue is, they can actually kill you if you're not careful, and there's no way to protect yourself against it.

Flashbangs safer but gets less results. Stinger riskier but gets more results.

[valid raven]

Stigers are like the less letel verson of frags

[random obsidian]

Why dosen't Judge just pretend that the suspects are members of FISA,is he stupid?

[valid raven]

Plus they can bounce around

[narrow geode]

#🎨ron-screenshots-and-art message

[vagrant zephyr]

pretty much. When tossing stings at the dead prince guy in the yacht mission, i accidentally oofed myself with it lol

[somber urchin]

I like flashbangs just because of their sound.

and it seems way less suspects have eye protection than in SWAT 4

[valid raven]

Is it muti bagngs

Or just a sigle bang

Like the ones that go off more then once

Flash bangs mostly bllind you

Aprly irl the effet is only like 10 secs

[vagrant zephyr]

Im not saying on if either are better, since I lack general experience

[valid raven]

Its vary short lived

[vagrant zephyr]

but i have enough experience to give you the general upsides and downsides

so that you can form your own opinion off of that

[valid raven]

You get in and cuff them before they have a change to recover from the bang

[vagrant zephyr]

single bang

[valid raven]

Do you have to cuff legs as well

[narrow geode]

#💬general-discussion message

[valid raven]

SWAT does that btw

[narrow geode]

No

[valid raven]

they cuff legs too

[vagrant zephyr]

no you dont cuff da legs

[valid raven]

Why do you have to cuff dead bodys tho

[vagrant zephyr]

they may get up

like suspects can fake death if they've been hit, but not enough to actually die

[valid raven]

And I get that SWAT the goal is to detain as meny as posable

[vagrant zephyr]

like back at 1.0, I was running an smg in neon tomb and EVERY suspect I 'killed' were actually faking it

[valid raven]

Not kill but detain

[vagrant zephyr]

it was a very depressing time for my pride

[valid raven]

But be ready to kill if needed

[vagrant zephyr]

that's how the ROE in RON works

[valid raven]

What

[narrow geode]

You don't have to cuff dead suspects
Cuffing them won't give you extra points
You can just report them

[valid raven]

Be ready to kill

But not go out of your way to kill

[vagrant zephyr]

Im not too sure of the new system since the ROE appears different from 1.0, soooooo

you may need to ask someone else about it

[valid raven]

Like morel is a thing

Would a civ refuseing to copmy still be a crime?

[vagrant zephyr]

How much experience do you have in RON? Im asking since it'll help me uh get a general feel of how much i need to explain

[valid raven]

I got this game around when it first came out

[vagrant zephyr]

Oh, well congratulations

[valid raven]

And a lot of players say its not woth trying to get them to give up

[vagrant zephyr]

It's up to how you play, but the suspects do actually surrender now

[valid raven]

As if they wont give up when you yell they never will

[valid raven]

They did before

[vagrant zephyr]

a lot of the criticism of AI probably comes from 1.0 when the ai was cracked, so it's best to start your expectations on a clean slate

[valid raven]

Its incosenct when they do or dont

But thats intended

Is thare a shooting range whare I can test stuff

[vagrant zephyr]

yes...

[valid raven]

Or like a killhouse

[vagrant zephyr]

yeah...

[valid raven]

I know the kill house got removed

[vagrant zephyr]

there's a new killhouse

[valid raven]

For a wile

You know what I mean by a killhous the range used to practive CQC drills right?

[vagrant zephyr]

yeah

it's in the police station

[valid raven]

A lot of the walls of IRL ones can be moved around and replaced vary easlyer

Would be cool if the walls in the kill house moved aorund randomly

[vagrant zephyr]

That's not a feature unfortunately but yeah

it would be a cool idea

[valid raven]

IRl they move them around a lot and dont breif layouts beforehand

[vagrant zephyr]

I can see why they'd do that

[valid raven]

So they have to plan the aprach on the fly

[valid raven]

Why do you think they would do that?

I know I am just makeing convo

[vagrant zephyr]

It would be counterintuitive to build up muscle memory for a killhouse, and therefore nullify any further effects of CQB training

[valid raven]

Its CQC

Oh

CQC is hand to hand training

Like unarmed fighting

[vagrant zephyr]

ah I see

[quasi tree]

There is a gasmask that protects you

[vagrant zephyr]

gas masks protects you against stingers?

[valid raven]

No

[vagrant zephyr]

I wouldn't have guess that, considering that they... only cover the face

[valid raven]

I dont think it does

Also pretty sure the stingers could still hurt your hands and arms and stuff

And apraly they hurt bad

Its basly fast moveing rubber balls

[quasi tree]

I was playing today thé Valley of the Dolls the non leathal way with gasmask and it didnt harm me

Idk

[vagrant zephyr]

like, didnt affect you?

[quasi tree]

Yea

Or i just wasnt paying attention

[vagrant zephyr]

stingers have limited range, are you sure you didn't toss it out of a radius where you'd be affected? Or was it point blank?

[quasi tree]

Like i said idk

[arctic ice]

any tips for a new player? i keep on dying to enemies i can't see

[quasi tree]

What grafics are you playing on?

[arctic ice]

epic

[quasi tree]

Ok

And fov?

[arctic ice]

100

[quasi tree]

Maybe your fov ss too high for you

Try to lower your fov

And could you dm me?

[vagrant zephyr]

can you please describe how you play?

A tip you may not like is to always hold shift and slow walk

not thrilling, not fun, but at least it'll force you to ponder where you're goin

[arctic ice]

usually careful, im pretty blind tho

[vagrant zephyr]

Hm... which map do you struggle at?

[arctic ice]

i got less than 2 hours so im doing ty come again rn, i got wall banged and killed through a door when i peeked outside, i even mirrored the door but didnt see hostiles

game is hard but fun as hell

[vagrant zephyr]

Hm... odd. The ai doesnt wallbang as much for me

I would recommend trying out different guns

see which ones catches your fancy the most

SMG- full auto without noticeable recoil, weak damage, struggles against body armour. The volume of bullets you fire makes up for accuracy or low damage.

Shotguns- Bang, no more suspect. Has deceptive range for buckshot. Stuns armour.

Assault rifles- Versatile. Not much more you could need from it.

Battle rifles- One shot and they're dead. VERY long though, good luck not getting noticed by suspects when going around the corner.

[arctic ice]

i usually use my ai teammates to breach because i am so blind I'll eat half a mag before i can react lol

[arctic ice]

ty

[vagrant zephyr]

do note there's a variety of factors which may explain how a suspect saw you.

Did you have your laser sight or flashlight on? Could they have saw your barrel poking through the door or corner? Did you yell?

[arctic ice]

i saw a civ outside and yelled at em, no reaction so i tried pushing out and got an entire magazine dumped into me

[vagrant zephyr]

could they have flanked you, instead of you being wallbanged?

You can actually command civilians to come closer to you

[arctic ice]

there were no flank routes, swat ai was either covering them or they were wedged

[vagrant zephyr]

Hm... which map was this?

[arctic ice]

thank you come again, the outside area on the left side with something like a van there

[vagrant zephyr]

Oh, odd...

[arctic ice]

i wedged the door at first and cleared the right side before moving there too

[vagrant zephyr]

lemme get the map of gas station out so i can understand better what you meant

If you're struggling with the uh survival aspect

I'd recommend bringing Steel to maximise the damage you can eat

Light and Heavy armour only changes how much of your body is covered, whether this is important is up to you

[arctic ice]

i was wearing heavy ceramic, legs and arms got shot a lot more than torso and head

[vagrant zephyr]

Hm... do you run shield?

[arctic ice]

nope, i was using mirror gun

[vagrant zephyr]

Ok.. hm

was your attachment on?

still trying to think of where the bullets could've come from

[lunar blade]

How does the A, B, C... system work in RoN?

[vagrant zephyr]

It works on point thresholds as far as I'm aware, except S which mandates that every suspect and civilian remain alive, you get all evidence and no officers die

[arctic ice]

it wasn't and the laser was the one that you can only see with nvgs (i put it on because it looks cooler on the gun)

[lunar blade]

Yeah, I know that. It's just weird cause I got all objectives and got a B...

[vagrant zephyr]

When I was new to RON, during 1.0 when suspects were at their most powerful, I brought a shield and wouldnt drop it

I'd recommend bringing the shield until you get used to the suspects. It'll even help if you dont use it, since it protects the back torso

[arctic ice]

i brought a shield once got almost killed even though i was facing them and crouching lol

got blinded too

[vagrant zephyr]

Ah... Were you trying to shoot them?

[vagrant zephyr]

Perhaps you killed too many suspects?

[arctic ice]

prob

[vagrant zephyr]

Ah, yeah. They can target exposed limbs if you use shield

[lunar blade]

I did shoot about 1/3 or 1/2 of the suspects but usually that results in an A.

[vagrant zephyr]

Yeah, maybe that's why

[lunar blade]

Yeah, some suspects really are that dumb to shoot at 5 heavily armed cops while they have their grandpa's old revolver.

[vagrant zephyr]

welcome to mindjot, where you must devote yourself to the cheap Chinese server gods and fire at any SWAT officers whom simply wished to check for CP on your servers

[lunar blade]

I tried to get non lethal shots, like arms, legs and center mass but my accuracy decided to be good today and I got like 3 headshots.

[vagrant zephyr]

LOL

[lunar blade]

Idk if that means I'm good at shooting or I'm terrible.

[vagrant zephyr]

hitting the head three times usually means you've got good aim

[lunar blade]

Yeah but when you're aiming for their thigh, then it means something different.

[vagrant zephyr]

try taser if it really becomes an issue

or SMG, because 9 mm is not putting anyone down

[lunar blade]

Only issue is taser doesn't work long range and I tried to use the beanbag but the "fence" or whatever it is in english was in the way.

Plus I was doing a run where I try to arrest suspects if they give me the opportunity but if they shoot then I respond accordingly

[vagrant zephyr]

By the time the suspect starts shooting, lethal force is usually the most optimal thing to do

[lunar blade]

Yeah.

[vagrant zephyr]

there is a system where if you

kill a suspect, the other suspects are more likely to just shoot on sight

[lunar blade]

Wait so if I shoot a suspect, that means I can shoot more suspects?

[vagrant zephyr]

absolutely

[lunar blade]

Legally.

[vagrant zephyr]

yeah

welcome to the Los Sueno Police Department mentality

[lunar blade]

Hell yeah.

They shoot at us with 9mm pistols and we shoot at them with automatic 5.56 rifles and shotguns.

[vagrant zephyr]

LOL

i was a big fan of the battle rifles like the mk 17

but i recently found out that SMGs are actually great

and started using the mp5 SD a lot

[lunar blade]

I usually run a SMG like the MPX for "less lethal" and ARWC or LVAR for "less less lethal"

[vagrant zephyr]

LOL

I prefer MP5SD because it makes the enemy ai a bit... er interesting

on 23 megabytes a second, I cameragunned the room to the streamer's apartment

and one of the suspects was camping and holding the angle...

facing the bathroom

after I wallbanged another suspect

he was still checking on that bathroom

[lunar blade]

Damn

He really needed to shit huh?

[vagrant zephyr]

he was scared that the cops would enter via plumbing

[lunar blade]

My favorite map is the streamer one, cause it's "most" likely to get a hostage situation going and you can basically breach rooms from 2 sides and absolutely destroy the 2 guys pissing themselves inside a server room.

[vagrant zephyr]

LOL yeah i gotta use c2 more

[lunar blade]

I almost had a completely perfect lethal run on it when suddenly the streamer surrenders and reaches in his pocket for his phone and I shoot him 3 times close range with a revolver cause I thought he was reaching for a gun.

[lunar blade]

it's a blast (no pun intended)

[vagrant zephyr]

faint ba dum ts sounds

[lunar blade]

I had to.

[valid raven]

My game blackstreans any time i try to load anything

[lunar blade]

I did the streamer mission a couple min ago and a dude just runs and takes the brother hostage. I thought there was no chance he'd shoot. I was right, it was my own officer who decided that a shotgun was the best resolution to a hostage situation.

[lunar blade]

Does the game blackscreen and crash or does it blackscreen and then load you in?

[willow swallow]

i never realized how much lore this game has

[vagrant zephyr]

try dx11, you can change launch settings on steam

[willow swallow]

which level would you guys consider the scariest

[smoky geyser]

Lethal Obsession, easy pick for me

[willow swallow]

this is fair

the most unsettling one is easily ,23 megabites, Mindjot, and valley of the dolls if you put the three together and you know the lore behind the levels

[smoky geyser]

True but for me ALO Has that sense that once you understand and read the note you get from S Tier Carriers Of The Vine. And listen to Scott’s recordings of Judge it all clicks and just the realization.

[willow swallow]

idk js personally the whole CP ring with AV and brixley, and all of it put together all fuck me up

[somber urchin]

Which map do you guys consider most disturbing? For me its the elephant because of how unhinged the suspects are

[indigo wolf]

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[smoky geyser]

Very fair. It did off put me when I first discovered it but I’m a sucker for Mind Control shit

[indigo wolf]

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[indigo wolf]

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[smoky geyser]

Hide And Seek

[indigo wolf]

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[willow swallow]

elephant or valley of the dolls

after watching all of issac morgans lore videos my out look on alot of the levels changed completely

NEON is very slightly related to cherryessa

on the bored "big dick rick" with his number is the rick that is mentioned in cherryessa talking about him drugging women in the night club

does anyone know if the DLCS are also apart of the lore?

[amber dock]

Uhhh

no

They all have own storyline

Except for ARG I belive it's all connected

But ron's lore is so confusing I lost track of what's going on since like 2022

[pine drum]

They need to add a fucking stealth order so the AI don't give us away...

[willow swallow]

can we all agree twisted nerve is one of the worst maps??

[pine drum]

No

Well... One part.

[quasi thorn]

What weapons would yall like to see added? I’d like to see the desert tech sabertooth added and maybe bring back the Ak-101?

[willow swallow]

the house is fine its that fuckass tunnel system

[pine drum]

Just take it slow and steady

The part I hate is the bridge between houses.

[quasi thorn]

What do yall think of my ideas for new weapons?

[thick rivet]

a tactical nuke

[quasi thorn]

lol

[proper cairn]

Guys idk what to do uh dx11 or 12

[thick rivet]

0.50 cal barret

[somber urchin]

that and rust belt

[amber dock]

whichever one runs better for you

[proper cairn]

is it dependent on specs

idk ill just try 12

[amber dock]

to a extent yes

[proper cairn]

ah

[edgy linden]

Attack helicopter kill streak

[thick rivet]

that or a minigun would work

supressed minigun

[edgy linden]

Extra tactical wooo

[thick rivet]

whats A.I. mod

[edgy linden]

A mod that involves A.I tweaks

[thick rivet]

aaa

[edgy linden]

🤯

[stone bay]

An LMG for those particularly brutal maps. Looking at you, Carriers.

[pine drum]

But seriously, they need to add an order that prevents AI from shouting at people

[quasi thorn]

I think it could be interesting to add modular rifles like the acr or desert tech sabertooth (which I can see being configured into an lmg role)

[pine drum]

Like can you NOT scream at someone who hasn't noticed us who's too far away?

[quasi thorn]

I’d post the pictures but I can’t yet

@stone bay do you want me to dm you of the rifle/lmg I have in mind?

[amber dock]

@novel iron mods don't affect grade ranks and unlocks and achivements etc

if that's your concern

[pine drum]

Has anyone S ranked hide and seek?

Starting to feel impossible

[amber dock]

It is very much possible

Just takes alot of tries like rest of the 17 maps:D

[edgy linden]

Nah I'd win

[pine drum]

Eh, maybe I need to be aggressive as hell.

[stark prairie]

it's easy

just get a full squad

and have like 1 or 2 people use pepper

[vagrant zephyr]

What’s ya’ll experience with 3 letter triad?

Personally, Me and my friend have given it a few goes, but whenever we run into the Black sentinel squad, the run goes awry.

We’ve given it a good amount of goes and have pretty much chalked it up as ‘just do it with AI swat’

[stone bay]

That map is way too big.

[pine drum]

Beanbag supremacy

[gleaming gorge]

I have a Question, I am gonna try to S rank Valley of The Dolls so I can finally get that Shirt, Should I bring this loadout for my Team
TPL, PC19, Mirror- Self
VPL, G19, Breach-Alpha
TPL, PC19, Shield-Bravo
Beanbag, G19, Ram-Charlie
VPL, .357 Magnum, M320 Gas- Delta

[gleaming gorge]

Man, I should Not Have Shield yet for Non Lethal Runs as we don't have the Pepperball pistol

[pine drum]

Why don't suspects ever surrender after being shot? You'd imagine some lead motivation would get them in line.

[gleaming gorge]

from what I have Read and Seen, suspects are a bit of a mystery on what they do, Beanbags, Pepperball, Stingers, and Flashes Seem to get their Morale down to be Surrender, but I think Normal Gun shots Boost their adrenaline to the point they no longer have morale issues, that is what I think their System is

and why the methheads will not every go down on 213

[bold pagoda]

how do I get my officiers to not auto arrest a civ when I still need to clear out a room? seems like whenever I go close to them, one of my officiers just auto cuffs them

trying to S rank elephant rn

[tacit gull]

All you have is the hold command, otherwise you cannot

[bold pagoda]

ah

[valid raven]

Ok peper ball rifle kind of sucks

[gleaming gorge]

how do you mean?

[valid raven]

it does very little morale damage and against the suspect with high morale it gets you killed

Btw morale is a hidden stat that every on in a level has

It determines if they will surrender

When they are “aware” of the player

Presence does the least yelling is one level up and less lethals and c2 do some as well

C2 does a lot actually

Which makss sence would you not be scared if you heard a loud explosion and saw the door fly across the room?

[gleaming gorge]

I am pretty sure Beanbags, stingers, And Flashbangs are some the highest, problem is beanbag shotgun, you can directly kill the Suspect

[pine drum]

Man, the devs need to fix the AI mapping on Hide and seek

[valid raven]

Gas does a lot

But problem is it lingers for a bit

[gleaming gorge]

I mean, Hide and Seek is supposed to be the Hardest level as it brings all the things together

[valid raven]

So unless you have a mask you will get effected as well

Btw tear gas can kill btw you have to be exposed for a long time

[gleaming gorge]

Half tempted to run Valley of the Dolls to just Get Murdered by the Wife

[valid raven]

It’s pretty much pure capsicum

Tear gas and pepper spray are

Peper spray it’s just mixed with water and dye

[crude prism]

me when I accidentally stand in tear gas for like 13 minutes so it kills me (runs dead)

[valid raven]

Its the same active chemical though

Wich burns your eyes and makes it difficult to breathe

[gleaming gorge]

I wonder, should I try to do the Hermit for the Watch, I think my strategy will be take no Suspects alive, besides HVTs

[pine drum]

Hide and Seek would be a cool map if it wasn't so buggy

[gleaming gorge]

I think it is a good Map to play outside of S rank runs as Taking Suspects alive is hard when they are further than 30m

Same Problem with Greased Palms

[pine drum]

I mean... Beanbag shotgun made it easy enough

But yeah no the AI mapping is kinda trash

[gleaming gorge]

Heck, When 1.0 Was First Released, Ironically, I got Ides of March S ranked on my First Attempted and Hated the Meth one too much, Those methheads are basically immune to Morale issues

[valid raven]

I like how the suspect and civilian position are random

So they can end up anywhere on the level

I have never encountered the whole rifles bunping into walls thing

Because i usely pie a room before entering and don’t run right into the room after breaching

I normally lean around the corner so i can snap behind the wall if i take fire

[gleaming gorge]

I normally run the rabbit, but I think I shouldn't as the AI is kinda Too, Lethal

[valid raven]

And if i am playing with teammates i always tell them i am deploying a less lethal

I have had people run in anyway and get upset they got fash banged or something

[pine drum]

I didn't know that the Federal Park Rangers had a SWAT unit until this game randomly mentioned it.

[valid raven]

They are federal agents

It’s mostly antipoaching stuff

[gleaming gorge]

from the L5 Jacket, from Carriers of The Vine?

[valid raven]

As you can’t really hunt in national parks

And poachers often have a lot of guns so makes sense

If they are willing to fight back they could do a lot of damage

[hallow wharf]

why can enemies wallbang and we cant

[valid raven]

Remember as SWAT we are there to DETAIN as many people as possible but they have a understanding some people just aren’t willing to give up no matter how much “ convincing” you try

[valid raven]

I mean it’s against protocol

[hallow wharf]

i mean mechanically

we cannot shoot through fences and doors that enemies CAN shoot through

[gleaming gorge]

I mean, Most of us use Frangible bullets, ones designed to not Penetrate that much

[valid raven]

What HP

[gleaming gorge]

yeah

[valid raven]

They are designed to stay in the body and not penetrate

Police use them a lot for a reason

[gleaming gorge]

yes, that Is what I said

[valid raven]

Also HP is not a war crime

To use in war i mean

It’s not used because it doesn’t penetrate body armor very well

[gleaming gorge]

But CS gas is A Warcrime though

[valid raven]

Yes, but we’re not using it in anymore. We’re using it for law-enforcement.

Also us is not part of the ICC

So is not subject to its rules although it doesn’t get protections

Doesn’t mean they are part of other laws of war though

[crude prism]

afaik there is like 2 fence/window objects in the game with funky texture issues, where one side is rendered with bulletproof metarial and the other is not, it's not common...
one on port (portable trailer window) and one on valley (bottom floor fences that lead to the basement)

[valid raven]

There is more then one warfare conventions?

[valid raven]

yes, but you should still be able to penetrate soft material if you’re using FMJ

[gleaming gorge]

I find it funny People hate on Police using CS gas and stingers for Less Lethal Crowd Control, but Recommend People Use PepperSpray For Self Defense

[valid raven]

Its not illegal it’s just not effective in war

[crude prism]

no, he's talking about bug/map making error, it's literally a mistake where one side of the texture is flagged as bulletproof and the other side is not

[valid raven]

Oh

[hallow wharf]

the DLC mission where you clear that cartel hood there is a fucking ton

[valid raven]

Do swat ever clear a entirr area

And not just a single bilding?

[hallow wharf]

the DLC i just mentioned, yes

narcos

you clear an entire hood, like six+ houses

[valid raven]

Is that DLC fouced around drug enforcement

I know there’s two DLC

With maps i mean

And the HRT skin

[gleaming gorge]

I mean, While it is a Singular Building, the Hospital maybe an Exception and is An entire area of Land

[valid raven]

I mean, hospital complexes are typically multiple buildings

[crude prism]

do you have any specific spots? should be easy enough to test and submit bug reports

[hallow wharf]

DLC's are 10$ for 3 maps, not really worth buying but I got both

[gleaming gorge]

3 DLCs
Supporter from about 2 or 3 Years ago
Home Invasion, A Hurricane Relief Theme
Dark Waters, VBSS theme

[hallow wharf]

4 if you include sound track

[gleaming gorge]

I have all Three

[gleaming gorge]

Then 5 as Supporters also get an exclusive Soundtrack

[hallow wharf]

supporter shit is all ugly, never bought it

[gleaming gorge]

Ehh, I do like the PC19 over the G19

[crude prism]

bro is missing out on: glock reskin, shotgun reskin, ar-15 style rifle 14 (mid edition)

[hallow wharf]

all ugly

[hallow wharf]

i only use .45 ACP cause im a man

but 9mm is good for beginners

[crude prism]

world wars per hamburger is a good way to rate sidearms

[gleaming gorge]

I use 357 as I am more of a Man, Why would need more than 6 Shots, you compensating for bad Aim?

[pine drum]

Now that I've S Ranked the main game, time to LARP as the coast guard

[hallow wharf]

You use guns? I clear the place battering ram only

Maybe put some hair on your chest cupcake

[gleaming gorge]

I clear with just My Voice, nothing else is needed

[hallow wharf]

You talk to men? Yikes

Little gay

[gleaming gorge]

no, the Carriers of the Vine Cult, so No Men, only Women

[pine drum]

Wait hold on, we need to a Qatar royal in the DLC!?

[hallow wharf]

"Anthro K9 Unit" is crazy work

what a terrifying thing to imagine

[pine drum]

IK, thought it was funny

[crude prism]

mfw the K9 unit stands up on hind legs to chase me

[gleaming gorge]

I wonder, Would they ever give us A Full auto shotgun?

[bold sky]

considering how they literally make the mcx use 556 for the sake of some cringe realism the answer might be no

[crude prism]

mfw rifles can be caliber swapped and Void inserted one of the available calibers on the listed firearm

[gleaming gorge]

Still Prefer the AR180 in 300 Blackout

[crude prism]

goes hard 100%

[iron sparrow]

why do all the cops at the station have empty holsters

[gleaming gorge]

300 blackout Is one of the best rounds for Doorkicking/SWAT activities

[bold sky]

since they going for "realism" i guess it makes sense they dont do 556/.300 option mix for mcx bc irl you prolly dont want either of them close together bc of accidents

[crude prism]

only judge is allowed to have firearms in the station duh

[pine drum]

OK so the LSCRP room in training. Is that for testing LTL?

[bold sky]

also .300 blackout being "best" for swat or doorkicking is a controversial statement ngl

[iron sparrow]

surprised nobody doesn't just raid the fucking station

[gleaming gorge]

What I mean Is it is inherently Subsonic and is pretty good for quick target Pacification

[bold sky]

quick target pacification could be an overstatement; much as i like .300 in this game irl 556 generally gets the job done fine

[crude prism]

if by "testing LTL" you mean:

[bold sky]

.300 being heavier might be circumvented by law enforcement not needing to carry as many rounds but similar argument can be make for how much better 5.56 is being more lightweight

i like .300 personally dont get me wrong but i would rather local law enforcement keep it to 5.56 and not tax me to use .300

[gleaming gorge]

fair enough, but for Special Forces, yeah, they already Spend enough on 'trials' for Weapons, Might as well use the Specialist Weapons they Want

[crude prism]

I'd be curious about the risk of collateral damage with .300blk compared to 5.56

I suspect you might not want the risk of added weight on a projectile, but 5.56 already does a good enough job at causing unwanted collateral, so I wonder if the increase in risk is negligible

[bold sky]

its more the same case w spear rn tbh; lighter ammo makes it less uncomfortable to carry around so in longer missions i reckon its more comfortable to bring 556

plus maybe people prefer the lighter mag of 556 too, i never felt it but i heard of people saying loading .300 in some of their ar platform makes the weight shift towards the front noticable

[crude prism]

add some rocks into the spot for the cleaning kit in your stock, counterweight, simple as

[gleaming gorge]

Here is a Stupid Question, are Stingers Unauthorized Force on Civs?

[crude prism]

I think you're onto something here, we should add the spear into RoN so I can vaporize unarmored gas station robbers with 57,000 PSI hollow points

[bold sky]

people kinda underestimate volume of fire value irl too, ttk irl is a lot different in game so lighter ammo for more of them is generally useful but i guess since you can have identical mag capacity for .300 and 5.56 it is slightly less of an issue

[pine drum]

Oh boy, I sure do love causing an international incident

[grim violet]

if it only reaches local news then why bother am i right

[pine drum]

Well... Sha'id caused it technically

[gleaming gorge]

The SA 58 Demands Blood, and I shall give it that

[pine drum]

I'm more a G3 fan

[gleaming gorge]

GA51 for me, so a G3 as well

[iron sparrow]

hey is the department okay with me littering chemlights and loaded magazines all over the station's front desk

[gleaming gorge]

I want to See how many Chemlights it Takes to Break the Game At that location now

[crude prism]

Only if the stinger kills them.

You won't even get a penalty for knocking them out with like 6 grenades AFTER arresting

[stone bay]

Three Letter Triad is too damn big

[copper flint]

Ready or Not

[pine drum]

Man the JHP rounds do some NASTY things to people

[noble python]

i beat hide and seek but right at the end i blew one woman's head off because she ran into me and got an F rank

kinda hate this mission with friendly AI

[tawny panther]

ready or not is the best game ever

[abstract sand]

Tips for going a full non-lethal on the Vietnamese household?

[haughty geode]

is riot control a good trait for non-lethal?

[iron sparrow]

ready or not player try not to panic fire at everything challenge

[pine drum]

When suspects go from slowly putting down their weapon to throwing their hands up and dropping it, that's a surefire way to get shot by me.

[torpid rain]

i think saiga has a fully automatic mode, source: year old video about a different mod that re adds hidden weapons https://www.nexusmods.com/readyornot/mods/4150

[crude prism]

I don't think it's used anymore, but suspects used to have the full auto saiga and also a dmr in 7.92×57mm Mauser that they spammed super fast

[stable kernel]

Any weapon can be auto for suspects, they just fire at the rate set in the config

Not sure how it worked before 1.0 though

[wraith basin]

suspects usually cant hit broad side of a barn with aks74u

[gleaming gorge]

I find this Interesting, I haven't attempted this Mission since 1.0 Release, but I was Seeing someone Play Ides of March and It feels like the Left Behind have some of the Best Skill but Some of the 'Weakest' Morale

[iron sparrow]

they compensate for it with the entire fucking place being a death trap

need like 80 wedges

[gleaming gorge]

Yeah, Ides and Obsession are two of the Easiest and Hardest maps at the Same Time

Depending on if you take your time and move through it slowly or are an impatient player

everyone Remembers their first time doing Obsession, don't lie, you restarted about 1 minute into the mission because you found out about the traps

[iron sparrow]

had to get the breaching shotgun and c2 because if i had the audacity to try disarming any traps i would get shot at

[gleaming gorge]

well, that was uneventful

[iron sparrow]

?

[gleaming gorge]

tried to Place a gif from Tenor and it was just the link

[iron sparrow]

reaching up is fine for me because you can tell they're not going to aim again

but if i see a suspect move their hands towards their torso or waist when surrendering i am lighting them the fuck up

[gleaming gorge]

I had this happen once on 23mbs, one of the people defending the Crypto Farm was ready for me to cuff then just stabbed me When I got Close enough, Scared me the first time I learned that they can Fake Surrender

[iron sparrow]

yeah if they ain't on their knees i ain't getting close

[gleaming gorge]

they were on their knees and I walked up as I was Afraid of getting Shot From the Streamer's room

[iron sparrow]

dang

i think if you make them turn around it's easier for you to react during fake surrenders though

personally i haven't had the on their knees fake surrender yet

[gleaming gorge]

again, it was when 1.0 released. First time I played after about 6 months of basically seeing nothing

[iron sparrow]

not faulting you just giving my thoughts

[gleaming gorge]

yeah

Any Tips for doing Greased Palms S rank, I hate that Map about as Much as Valley of the Dolls and Hide and Seek

[iron sparrow]

i haven't reached the s ranking levels stage of gameplay yet

firearms are my love

[gleaming gorge]

Ehh, I need to S rank if I want to make any 'Progess' on breaking

that is all I will say

I had the game Spoiled for me, nothing more on that

[pine drum]

Well I often mistake it for reaiming... Not my fault I tell them not to make a sudden move... THEN THEY MAKE A SUDDEN MOVE

[crude prism]

the guy with the M249 on Brisa Cove used to fire at 2400 RPM before the new LMG firerate cap with 1.0 (which locks it to 545 rpm)

reasons Brisa has always been horrific number 10985480

[stable kernel]

He needs more boolets

[round pagoda]

🍑

[warm torrent]

How are the "random" recruitable officers picked? It doesn't feel random at all. Out of the 9 i've gotten so far, 6 have been morale officers and 2 breachers. I feel like it's always like this, you get a lot of the ones you've already got.

[warm torrent]

Okay my new batch of 3 was 3 intimidators. This is stupid.

[torpid rain]

how do i unlock officer traits, i have a kicker officer i brought on 3 successful missions but he still doesnt have his ability unlocked

[warm torrent]

The rank of your missions affects this afaik. If you A+ or S-rank they will get it faster than if you shoot your way trough to an E rank.

But to me it seems a bit random as well, i am thinking if an officer doing more things in a mission will get more xp because they don't seem to level up at the same time.

[torpid rain]

im unfortunately getting s on all levels rn so i dont think that should be an issue

[warm torrent]

In my current playtrough i have played 3 missions, one S, one A+ and one C and 3 out of my 4 officers have unlocked their trait so maybe you are just unlucky.

[simple wren]

anyone have tips for carriers of the vine on commander mode?

the only thing im struggling with is taking in the main suspect alive, she almost always will hide behind one of her followers for some reason, making it almost impossible to make her give up by tasing, pepper spray, gas or less lethal rounds

I thought flashlights increased the change a suspect surrenders if you shine in it in their face, but im not sure

[narrow geode]

That doesn't happen

[bitter mason]

Don't think suspects react to flashlights outside of barking an alert voice line

[tacit gull]

I remember seeing something about them reacting to it only the first time you turn it on

[amber dock]

Flashlights on farm one of the brightest maps is a sin

[bitter mason]

There's some dark areas
Though the lighting is still busted after the ue5 switch I imagine

Rust belt was hit the worst

[split flax]

Feelin' empty as hell rn, so I did make it through the main story for rank S just in a week or less, and that's just first time I'm dealing with one mission for over a day already. For some reason in the last mission of HI DLC, enemies really like to take civs hostages, and even tho I manage to save them I get unauthorized use of force, literally every attempt. Nothing gets in my way except that. Maybe I didn't spent enough time in hostage situations in the game but I would love if someone recommend me tactics to deal with hostage situations

[split flax]

(By HI I mean Home Invasion, and by the last mission - the "Lawmaker")

[tiny mountain]

did you shoot em in body mass or headshot?

[shell cliff]

dont forget CS gas exist 👍

or taser

[split flax]

They seem to surrender easier if you shoot them with pepper in head, or maybe I am just tripping and thinking it does, I just think that if you hit them in body the splash that comes off the pepper spray shot will still count as UUOF because they would get damage

[shell cliff]

UUOF only happen if they surrendered and u still shoot them

[split flax]

I guess I just have to many flashbacks to elephant where they don't hasitate to kill civillians in almost no time
I think that ifthere's about 10 feet between me and the person they would start shooting, or kill the civ, I don't exactly understand what makes them to do so

[split flax]

Well it happens once I guess I hit the hostage with pepper when trying to shoot the guy holding the hostage

I mean I feel like I am not hitting them

But I guess I do

[tiny mountain]

Elephant is an active shooter scenario, you got about 3 minutes till they start killing civilians.

[split flax]

Mhm

[tiny mountain]

flash works best for hostages if you going for S ranks. Once suspect is flashed they let go of hostage.

[shell cliff]

u can shoot at the floor below them (like 5-8shots it create a smoke cloud iirc)

[split flax]

I just panic Ig, I feel like if I let them hold for to much they'll shoot the guy and some kind of neuron activations tells me to act fast, rather than letting AI deal with the thing or throw CS in the room

[split flax]

Does CS work on such?

[split flax]

Oh danke, I guess I'll try it rn for another attempt

[shell cliff]

if u still scared u can do a full treatment = cs gas , pepper ball , taser , flashbang

[wraith basin]

Beanbags

[split flax]

Oh I completely forgor to use Bb sob

[wraith basin]

Honestly best less lethal in the game

[tiny mountain]

too long to take effect. They'll shoot them before it starts working.

[split flax]

mhmm

[quick narwhal]

lore question, one prank call involving the streamer guy ended up uncovering a massive child exploitation ring by voll?

[split flax]

I mean he had childish stuff on his hard drive from what I got

[quick narwhal]

apparently it started as a prank call from what ive read which led to a domino effect of 23 megabytes to spider to sinous trail and then finally valley of the dolls

[quick narwhal]

that prank caller ended up being hero or some sort? kinda wild tho

[bitter mason]

Yep

[split flax]

Exactly

[bitter mason]

All thanks to mindjot being stupid and putting their brand on all if their illegal sales too lmao

[quick narwhal]

time to swat your local hated streamer/s

[bitter mason]

I'll never get over the mindjot watermarks on the images of illegal firearms and drugs in the data centre briefing its so dumb

[quick narwhal]

imagine if the prank caller felt occupied that day and amos still ran free with his operations, the prank caller is a starman

[quick narwhal]

loopholes kek

[split flax]

Got the Lawmaker on first attempt, thanks @tiny mountain @shell cliff

[arctic ice]

how did i read that as "Lawnmaker"

[split flax]

Lawmower then

[arctic ice]

best gun to use with shield?

[round pagoda]

Finger pistols

[quick narwhal]

five seven

ifnernus

[arctic ice]

attachments?

[round pagoda]

why don't you just play the game try everything

see what you like

[wraith basin]

Ever played Dead Space 2 before?

[arctic ice]

because i'm worried i might not be able to use them effectively

i'm relatively new

[round pagoda]

wat

[quick narwhal]

for starters just use any dot and any laser, use the supressor since theres only one option anyways

[tiny mountain]

👏

[arctic ice]

almost got a S

[somber urchin]

are supressors worth it? biggest use I get out of them is knowing which side is shooting but it doesn't seem to alert AI less especially since stealth is not really a thing in the game

[round pagoda]

did you see the stat advantages in the loadout menu

[quick narwhal]

they dont constantly blow out my ears so yes

[arctic ice]

god i hate twisted nerve

[stone bay]

Doesn’t everyone? Fuck those tunnels btw.

[arctic ice]

i knew i should have taken my nvgs

[somber urchin]

gonna try iron man mode :3
inb4 get filtered in greasy palms

if one map needs a rework is this one, it's so open you are entering a massive killzone

[arctic ice]

i spent nearly an hour

carefully breaching every room, mirroring under basically any door

and i get killed by a junkie hiding in a dark spot

[somber urchin]

flashies need a buff

[somber urchin]

same, methhead with a knife at the very end of the mission lmao

[arctic ice]

apparently shooting a suspect not complying and holding a knife is unauthorized use of force

[round pagoda]

i mean, yeah

if the suspect didn't charge at you, you shouldn't have used lethal force

[arctic ice]

no non lethal options on me

[round pagoda]

well that's your problem

don't complain about unauthorized use of force

[narrow geode]

Points doesn't even matter if you're not going for S rank

Also
Can we get winter camo
I want it

[round pagoda]

tf you need winter camo for

[narrow geode]

It looks cool

[round pagoda]

your job is literally 95% indoors

[narrow geode]

Who cares

[arctic ice]

it looks cool

[round pagoda]

los suenos (angeles) clearly gets a lot of snow

[arctic ice]

the rule of cool is a factor

[narrow geode]

Its doesn't matter if it doesn't snow
It looks cool which is all that matters

[round pagoda]

because snow camo in rust belt looks cool

ok

[narrow geode]

Its not like a fitting camo makes suspects less likely to see us

[stone bay]

👆

[round pagoda]

it's also swat, not military

[arctic ice]

it'll make suspects think "oh shit thats cool" instead of shooting you, giving you a brief window to react aswell

[arctic ice]

and?

it looks cool and thats what matters

[round pagoda]

swat will not use snow camo

[narrow geode]

Who cares

[round pagoda]

immersion/realism is also a factor in this game

[narrow geode]

"Realism" players when weapons fall out of the map and suspects get stuck inside walls

[round pagoda]

easier to ignore than police officers decked out in white that doesn't match the setting

[arctic ice]

yk whats easier than that? accepting it looks cool and is therefore a valid pick

[round pagoda]

nah

looks dumb in the setting

[narrow geode]

It looks cool

[round pagoda]

it will look cool elsewhere in a game not about police swat

in a place with snow

because that's what snow camo is for

snow camo looks cool in a snow setting, why would you wear it elsewhere

??>

[narrow geode]

The "fitting" camos doesn't make us invisible anyways
Who cares if it doesnt fit
It looks good

[arctic ice]

because it looks cool everywhere

[round pagoda]

dead wrong

[arctic ice]

*dead right

[round pagoda]

it looks stupid as fuck though

[narrow geode]

Wrong

[arctic ice]

invalid opinion

[round pagoda]

snow camo in a car dealership>

your photos in photo mode will look dumb af

it doesn't match

[arctic ice]

it will also look cool as fuck

[narrow geode]

I dont use that so its fine

[round pagoda]

snow camo on a yacht lmao

[lone oracle]

what is ur issue with snow camouflage

[round pagoda]

nothing, it doesn't belong in this game's setting

[arctic ice]

ok and? it looks fucking epic and thats what matters

[round pagoda]

nah

[narrow geode]

But a shirt with flowers does

[round pagoda]

more plausible than snow camo

[narrow geode]

Wrong

[lone oracle]

😂

its a troll i think

[arctic ice]

man this madlad guy has the worst opinions around

[arctic ice]

prob, snow camo is objectively sick

[lone oracle]

i wear camo clothes does that mean im not a real swat officer??? does that mean i dont look cool????

😟😟😟😟😟

[narrow geode]

Mr Madladchad does not want variety in cosmetics

[lone oracle]

madladchad please diagnose me

[round pagoda]

did i say that

winter camo is not the right way to add variety

[narrow geode]

I mean
It sounds like it

Lies

[lone oracle]

Do u even have mods for the game

[round pagoda]

yes

[arctic ice]

finally found the last fucking dude after 15 mins of searching

[lone oracle]

what map lol

[round pagoda]

what why

[arctic ice]

twisted nerve

[lone oracle]

where was he tunnels or what

[arctic ice]

hiding behind somewhere outside, i was too busy clearing out house to notice him

[lone oracle]

yea finding that last guy is always stressful

especially on maps like twisted nerve wheres theres 40 different places they could be

[arctic ice]

then you should know snow camo looks good

[round pagoda]

that has nothing to do with that response

[arctic ice]

i know, thought i'd add a thing

[quick narwhal]

I finally completed achieved S in every mission including both dlc 🥳

[arctic ice]

nice

[stone bay]

Nice!

[quick narwhal]

now i can go back to gunning civilians

[arctic ice]

XD

how long did it take

[quick narwhal]

about 5 days

[arctic ice]

holy hell

[quick narwhal]

i completed the campaign first by rushing the main ones only then proceeded to complete everything else in quickplay

achieved s using beanbags and pepperguns like everyone does

and tons of flashes and stingers

[noble python]

damn the yatch mission is easy

[noble python]

leviathan too, what the hell

[wraith basin]

maybe you are just too pro xXxgamerz_420xXx

[noble python]

i just go thinking these missions will be way bigger than they actually are

[fringe fjord]

thats a banger name

[wraith basin]

if you are from mw2 lobby, you probably seen it

[arctic ice]

wheres the "69"

[wraith basin]

all the 1337haxxorZxXx69 and whatnot, yes

[patent axle]

Is neon tomb an active shooter?

[warm torrent]

The activest

[amber dock]

No it’s a barricaded suspects

[patent axle]

Nice

Anyway whats up with the doc prisoner down in the training facility? Is he just there to serve as a test dummy? 💀

[limber night]

Pretty much

Been there since early access

If not longer

[patent axle]

Well fair enough given he is a n*zi

[limber night]

Idk his background

[patent axle]

With that fatass 88 on his forehead