👮ron-discussion

[tiny quail]

watch it crash the entire mod economy

rip gunfighter 😔

[flint aurora]

I'ma ballpark it at August 15th

[tiny quail]

AT MY BIRTHDAY???

[maiden sparrow]

Will PS Plus be required on the console release of RoN to play with others?

[tiny quail]

insane

[flint aurora]

I assume it will be,

As it isn't a free to play title

[tacit gull]

Most likely yes

[flint aurora]

well that's just my guess but happy birthday my man lmao

[maiden sparrow]

Glad I have it on PC then

[mossy bloom]

im also really looking forward to pvp if/when they announce it

[tiny quail]

Yeah honestly ps paywalling paid online games is one of the reason i switched to pc

But hey Ws for the console bros they get to play ron AND play alongside pc players

[flint aurora]

More officers for the precinct, there's LOTS of Chaos to go around,

[stable kernel]

No games

[flint aurora]

(kinda miss the train station home base level from the beta)

[tiny quail]

lspd no longer understaffed les gooooo

[flint aurora]

Still underfunded so like, we getting paid in packing peanuts letsgoooo

[tiny quail]

might have a, not have games

[tiny quail]

beats being paid in nothin am i right

[flint aurora]

Can't wait to dissect the new levels to find out more of that phat USIA conspiracy

[obsidian jolt]

I have been granted a vision, RoN will eventually bring heavy helmets with bulletproof visors to allow us to play as European-style SWAT

[tiny quail]

i still don't get the preorder and get guns thing is the new guns gonna be available for regular buyer later?

[flint aurora]

Lmao truuu

[maiden sparrow]

Indeed hehe

[obsidian jolt]

SWAT teams that use fast-style helmets for entries are actually a tiny minority

[flint aurora]

The way they word it, sounds like no, but PC players just get it either way, sounds like.

[stable kernel]

You know, there is a pretty cool mod map for just this purpose. I think it's called Homeland or something

[obsidian jolt]

Most SWAT around the world use heavier gear

[amber dock]

Homeland a bad map

[flint aurora]

I love going with the AI and running the gear as close to my city's special response team's equipment as possible

[amber dock]

Should try one called boxtest instead

[tiny quail]

"M32A1 Launcher Primary" are they...are they making a grenade launcher a primary?

holy peak

[flint aurora]

https://tenor.com/view/the-russian-badger-fire-a-warning-shot-m32grenade-launcher-m32rotary-grenade-launcher-gif-22095991

SHIT

[obsidian jolt]

I'd love to do the same, but almost every single European SWAT unit uses heavy armor with helmets with bulletproof visors

[tiny quail]

no embed mods ready his not

[ionic gale]

What’s the to deal with DLC?

[flint aurora]

F, looking forward to that update.

The city I base mine off of, Calgary, has a decent loadout, since I been to their police museum so I can see exactly what they use as of 2018

[ionic gale]

I mean, what’s gonna be the deal with DLC?

[soft wave]

Should I buy this game when it comes out on console if I'm terrible at shooter games
like I'm really bad, I couldn't hit water if I fell out of a boat.

[ionic gale]

I think DLC is gonna come to both platforms obviously

[ionic gale]

I mean,

We really don’t know how it’s gonna play out yet

[obsidian jolt]

I want gear like this:

https://i.namu.wiki/i/nCgqSkF-jTEUxFWiJJdR-3sxtprMkzdJEzRyTANpIbBY1twWb50cHhcm3bkHZPYSKlOrPC7JyJUSg4BzTpTK5R1f6Li26dMZY3euca2XE2uWvZHTEYjao21tqbQF4kUKFNEwIa8LLp-dGf9_VTMrUA.webp

[tiny quail]

ok the correctional guy is bald and has tattoos on his head he's reminding me of Prescott is that why i keep shooting him

[amber dock]

it's a free DLC coming to all platforms

[flint aurora]

that looks sick as hell

Like GIGN, badass

[obsidian jolt]

European style SWAT

[ionic gale]

Wait so consoles gonna be getting all of the DLC for free? Or only the ones that have released so far?

[amber dock]

No this coming DLC that was announced today

[flint aurora]

https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2Fp5l8kvnqrfs31.jpg

I try and emulate this kit

@obsidian jolt

[ionic gale]

whu

There’s a new DLC coming out?

I haven’t been in this game loop for a little bit so eh

[amber dock]

Read #announcements

[flint aurora]

Classic M4 Carbine type setup, use the pepper rifle if I wanna LTL run

[obsidian jolt]

Great

[tiny quail]

oh yeah, controllers on ron has aim assist, i mean it wouldn't really help that much when you're being shot at from all sides

[flint aurora]

i put one ram on my team, one shield, one breaching shotgun

well, maybe two breaching shotguns

then I use what I feel like

likely the wand or shield

[obsidian jolt]

I try to make mine look like this with some mods: https://www.francebleu.fr/s3/cruiser-production/2020/09/63c2da35-eaeb-405f-a20a-b26a6f5dfe47/1200x680_maxnewsworldfive056882.jpg

[tiny quail]

gotta love how the mods for this game ranges from adding guns to removing swear words

[obsidian jolt]

I love the armor mods

[flint aurora]

my all time Goated mod is probably the relaxed ROE mod that allows me to return fire without sacrificing my S Rank, as long as I still collect the guns dropped and still arrest the surrendered enemies

[thick reef]

you gotta include ading whole ass maps

[obsidian jolt]

The SWAT or not maps are peak

[flint aurora]

yeah they're sick, I enjoyed early r6 Siege, still felt like a swat game

[flint aurora]

Fairfax residence my beloved

[winged shuttle]

Anyone know if the MK-V is a Desert Eagle or Grizzly?

[obsidian jolt]

Ye man, montagne with his giant shield was the goat. A pity now you have pink operator skins lol

[tiny quail]

oh and adding judge body pillow to the game

[flint aurora]

yeah Monty and Twitch were based

[thick reef]

April 1st 2025

[flint aurora]

I had some big brain moves as twitch back in the day

[buoyant iris]

I am a bit confused, when are we getting this on PC? When the console version is out or what?
#announcements message

[obsidian jolt]

Yeah. Another of my favs is Taronne tenement. Peak creeps

[amber dock]

Think yes

[flint aurora]

same release date

[ionic gale]

:o

[amber dock]

But we'll get more info when we get closer to summer

[ionic gale]

It seems like that they’re adding some old weapons back

[flint aurora]

Fairfax is peak atmosphere fr

[ionic gale]

I’m looking at the new pistol and oh my gosh

[buoyant iris]

Ah the wording is a bit confusing as they said pc would get it and console will get them through preorders.

[ionic gale]

Who gave the LSPD Desert Eagles?

[obsidian jolt]

Yeah man

[ionic gale]

PC users will get it for free

[tiny quail]

If all else fails, a deagle to the face oughta shut em up

[flint aurora]

swat 4 elite force mod remains my favorite game before RON, especially the seamless voice input orders

[obsidian jolt]

Also there was a mod that is now sadly incompatible that fixed all the clipping in the heavy armor

[ionic gale]

think you have a pre-order for a consoles

[flint aurora]

was so nice to use my voice instead of a clunky menu

[obsidian jolt]

What

[ionic gale]

I got that too. It’s pretty nice.

[flint aurora]

So SWAT4 has a complete overhaul mod that combines both campaigns into one and adds so much functionality to the game, it's called Elite Force and it's like THE way to play SWAT4

[obsidian jolt]

This is so peak

[ionic gale]

Yeah, I got the elite force mod as well

It’s basically been the only way I’ve been playing SWAT 4

[flint aurora]

It adds the possibility to set up voice recognition software from Microsoft and implement it into SWAT4 so your boys react to your words as well as the menu

[ionic gale]

Yeah, it has a bunch of fun stuff

A ton of new weapons as well

[flint aurora]

also adds multiplayer functionality too

i gotta reinstall it again fr

alongside my install of Stalker anomaly

[naive pier]

Is there gonna be any censorship cus of console manufacturers?

[ionic gale]

Actually, that’s a great question

[flint aurora]

I hope not, but I would hope it's at least a toggle for PC players if it has to be included

[naive pier]

Really hoping not, like the gritiness of it

[amber dock]

probs notttt, worst case ron simply gets rated 18+

But it's devs call

[maiden sparrow]

Just found out that RoN has been delisted on steam here

[obsidian jolt]

I remember playing so much rainbow six vegas 2

[flint aurora]

i think if it's AO then the consoles won't be allowed to host it

[ionic gale]

That’s not sigma

[obsidian jolt]

The customization was crazy

[ionic gale]

Yeah, I really hope it does not get an adults only rating

[flint aurora]

not pog

[maiden sparrow]

Indeed, good thing I own it already

[ionic gale]

But yeah, that’s actually a interesting question to ask

I hope that they don’t have to censor stuffs

[amber dock]

idk how age ratings work today for console and stuff but I do think something along that line will be the play. Cause I do think VOID will try to keep game same as PC when it comes to it's contens

[ionic gale]

I also wonder if it’s gonna have mod support (probably just integrated itch.io thing)

No

Mod.io*

[naive pier]

I wouldnt be shocked if Microsoft and sony asked to have something like the college mission censored considering their past history

[ionic gale]

Yeah, if they have to remove whole missions from the game to please, Michaelsoft… that’s gay

[flint aurora]

Yeah I would hope they don't tone down the depressing stuff, because the game needs to punch your gut, it's part of the identity of RoN as a nod of respect to all the messed up stuff cops gotta deal with.

[naive pier]

Just recently with some anime game the dev decided to cancel the version last minute cus microsoft decided to tell em to censor it

[flint aurora]

if they censor it, I'll turn off crossplay and mod the original intended experience back in fr

[ionic gale]

I have to wonder if there is mod.io stuff in the console version at least

[flint aurora]

It'll be curious to find out when we get closer to release

[ionic gale]

Fallout 4 is the first game that I think about having good mod support for its console version

[flint aurora]

If anything, I'm glad I have steam set to NOT auto update

[soft wave]

Yeah, it's getting better every year

[soft wave]

space engineers has full mod.io support (few exceptions such as mods with scripts)

[flint aurora]

I find it hilarious how everyone who mods fallout 4 essentially turns it into Stalker

the children yearn for the Zone

[soft wave]

😭 yeah I really don't know why but I try to do anything and I always end up with Stalker

[flint aurora]

I decided to just cut the middle man and started playing Stalker, it's so nice

[soft wave]

What's even funnier is i have stalker but I choose to mod my fallout to imitate it

[flint aurora]

Stalker Anomaly is the most based thing

Like, the apex of what a community of modders can do.

No longer modding the base games, but rather MODDING SO MUCH that they practically remake the whole engine just to run on x64 systems and then develop a whole ass new game

that also works as a base for another endless tidal wave of mods to overhaul that overhaul

[ionic gale]

I’m planning to buy the original trilogy sometime

[flint aurora]

it's based, do it

[ionic gale]

The only game that I’ve been playing from the stalker series is stalker 2

[flint aurora]

play it in release order

[ionic gale]

I have about like 20 hours or so in it right now

[flint aurora]

i just got stalker 2 and it's been fun, got a way to turn off RT and now I have it running at an 80fps average, no frame gen

I'm so glad I updated my cpu to a Ryzen 7

my 5 would have had a seizure with Stalker 2

I actually need to benchmark how my new upgrade runs RoN now that my cpu isn't the bottleneck

[ionic gale]

I only been playing the game on my series X

[tawny scaffold]

will we be able to link our steam progress with console progress? im curious

[flint aurora]

nice nice,

[ionic gale]

That would be very cool if we could

[flint aurora]

I have been exclusively on PC since I got one lol, my PS4 is probably crying with how little I've used it

[obsidian jolt]

Stalker 2 is fine, but honestly I still find GAMMA to be the peak stalker experience

[flint aurora]

I'm so so so glad I got into PC, the upgrade path was so nice, going one piece at a time, eventually having the hardware to make a second pc to sell on the local market for a boost

[flint aurora]

i enjoy gamma but need to do some more edits to make it closer to stalker, as rn is pretty much a survival game wearing the skin of Stalker,

But yeah my gamma save is so nice

[obsidian jolt]

Also same. I decided to get into the PC pipeline a year ago and it has been so great. Went from a 10 year old pc with a gtx650 to a new one with an RTX 4070

[flint aurora]

i love gamma so much, ngl, the performance is crazy,

[obsidian jolt]

My face when I turned on Elden Ring (the first game I got with the new pc) at 2k ultra and it worked perfectly, my jaw dropped

[flint aurora]

I started with an RX 580 2048sp from the golden bins store of Amazon reject stock, found out it works with just a bad hdmi port, and then went from a 3rd gen i5 to am4, eventually working my way to my current rig

[obsidian jolt]

Man, thats so nice

[flint aurora]

i5-3570 + 16gb DDR3 + RX580 2048sp is a goated beginner computer

[obsidian jolt]

I went from playing everything in super low with bad resolution to playing on ultra at 2k

[flint aurora]

Now I'm on an X570 Pro motherboard with a Ryzen 7 5800XT and an RX 7600 with 32gb DDR4

[flint aurora]

1080p 180hz is the goat for me and the games I play

[obsidian jolt]

It is

[flint aurora]

and modern games settings of "low" is like, 2015's ultra, which is hilarious, and good enough for me

so I'm still fine with my 7600, might wanna upgrade to the 9060 xt depending on the performance boost

RDNA 4 looking based

[ionic gale]

Doesn’t it have a large install?

[flint aurora]

roughly 150gb

[ionic gale]

It’s a mod within mod

[flint aurora]

I have 4tb HDD space, 1tb Sata SSD, and a 512gb NVMe ssd

[ionic gale]

It’s an entire mod pack for anomaly, which is a mod in it of itself

[flint aurora]

Like, 518 mods slapped together and made into a comprehensive experience

on top of a modded game engine created from the code accessible from the mainline series

absolutely based when you think about it

I love how Anomaly lets you truly make the stalker experience YOU want

[naive isle]

how do you achieve S rank

[flint aurora]

collect all evidence, no fatalities

all arrests, no incapacitated

[naive isle]

noted

thank you

[flint aurora]

no problem friendo

pepperballs to the rescue

[naive isle]

i use beanbags

why pepperball?

[opal basin]

Because they are 100% non lethal

Beanbags are less lethal not non lethal

[amber dock]

To kill one person with pepperball you need like 1200 mags to kill one person

Think Aspid tested it

[opal basin]

Exactly

[naive isle]

are there any drawbacka to pepperballs compared to beanbags?

[opal basin]

Sure.

Beanbags typically work in one shot

Pepperballs may take tens of shots

Depending on the suspect

[naive isle]

their handling and recoil sure makes that easier

should i run pepperballs over beanbags?

[opal basin]

I prefer pepperballs because they have a higher rate of fire and I believe a small AOE effect

[naive isle]

im still leaning twoards beanbags

[opal basin]

Personal choice but I’d recommend trying out pepperballs for a mission or two to see if you prefer them

I prefer pepperballs

[naive isle]

im still new to the game so im experimening, will give them a go

[opal basin]

Not sure but I’m pretty sure the rifle is better

There’s a rifle and smg pepperball

[naive isle]

i have seen and shot both

[opal basin]

Alright

[naive isle]

the smg seems weaker

[opal basin]

I haven’t used the smg much

[flint aurora]

run your ai team with pepperballs and CS and gas masks so they don't accidentally beanbag someone in the head

[naive isle]

is cs better than flashes

[amber dock]

SMG so small mag that it runs out fast lol

[opal basin]

Yes

Flashes are instant

Cs lasts longer

[amber dock]

and has area of denial effect

[opal basin]

Also cs works better I think

Pretty sure flashes don’t last as long

[amber dock]

basically you can use them to lock down a doorway since suspects can't shoot you

[opal basin]

In terms of the effect on suspects

[opal basin]

That too

[amber dock]

bigger area and lasts longer

[amber dock]

that's what she said

[naive isle]

at first ive ran default loadouts, then only default loadouts for my team. Later then specialised ones. Now i made a standarised loadout and a less than leathal version, as well as for me

then i looked at debrief if i need to capture someone, and if yes i loaded up with less than leathal

or if i deemed that the situation needs ltl

[ionic gale]

I saw the Deluxe Edition of Ready or Not’s console version

You’re gonna be getting the two DLC that we got so far

Home invasion and dark waters

[opal basin]

They have the game

[ionic gale]

Yeah ofc

[opal basin]

I just don’t understand what you mean

[ionic gale]

You get the base game along with the two DLC maps/cosmetics for the first two updates that we got

[opal basin]

I know that but why tell them that

[ionic gale]

bc

idk

just some info

[naive isle]

what?

[ionic gale]

It’s a digital deluxe edition on Xbox

[naive isle]

how is that related to the subject

[ionic gale]

Eh

Oh

[ionic gale]

I didn’t mean to reply to you

[thorn crane]

i wonder if this game is gonna have cross play between steam and ps5

or xbox

[vital canopy]

couldnt do another paid DLC so they went for console

mindblowing

[fresh crow]

Yes, it will, it's already been confirmed.

[thorn crane]

oh damn nice

[vital canopy]

also the weapons exclusive to pre order is straight up insane

[opal basin]

that is insane

no way they'd do that

there will surely be a way to get them without preorder

[crude prism]

inb4 the pistol pepper has an even smaller mag than the TPL, kek kek kek

[vital canopy]

is this sarcastic

[opal basin]

no

[vital canopy]

oh sorry

[opal basin]

i mean not impossible given how greedy void is but still really insane

[vital canopy]

yes unfortunately non preorders will have to wait months probably

or half a year

usually how long void takes to do anything

[opal basin]

ehh dont care too much

i won't be getting it on console

[maiden sparrow]

Anyone know why RoN is delisted on Steam in aus regions? (just curious)

[vital canopy]

true i guess

[opal basin]

nobody knows

[vital canopy]

im just tired of void being "average and nothing more" at their jobs

[maiden sparrow]

Oof

[opal basin]

yeah no way im spending MORE money on this game

unless more dlc comes out

[vital canopy]

i still feel like maps locked behind DLC is disgusting

even though i bought both

toxic relationship

[hollow cedar]

Wdym

[opal basin]

well thats how lots of games do it.... what else would the dlcs give if not maps? call of duty, battlefield, have been doing it for years

[hollow cedar]

Like u bought dlc but can't play the maps?

[opal basin]

dlc maps are perfectly fine

[vital canopy]

I will die on this hill, but i remember void stressing dlc would be cosmetic only years ago

[opal basin]

and they are generous letting non dlc players use it if the lobby owner has it

even if they did promise that they've broken nearly every promise they've made and lots of games have dlc maps

[vital canopy]

generous is crazy

games like insurgency sandstorm just give out maps every update

[opal basin]

yeah and lots of games like cod and bf don't, and they make everyone own them.

in ready or not you only need to own them basically if you only play singleplayer

[vital canopy]

i dont understand how people can just accept this

[opal basin]

what? paid maps?

[ionic gale]

Is DLC maps considered some of the past?

[vital canopy]

What i said before didnt make much sense, let me rewrite. The main game hasn't gotten new content since 1.0, which i think is crazy. All we have gotten is new guns. Are the current base game maps it? Is that really the whole story?

[opal basin]

wdym

[opal basin]

it has gotten new content. not just guns but also a ton of AI improvements and lots of other features.

[ionic gale]

I think there’s something to be said about if DLC maps are in general just something in the past where nowadays lots of the developers (big ones I should specify) or now starting to pump out free content, but

[opal basin]

also this next update is having free maps......

next update is 100% free

[vital canopy]

AI dont feel improved

[ionic gale]

That’s judging an Indie game like ready or not to the standards of call of duty where those developers can just piss away money all they want

[vital canopy]

same maps

[ionic gale]

yah

[opal basin]

did you play at the start of 1.0? read the patch notes

[ionic gale]

He said that it doesn’t feel improved

[opal basin]

oh they are revamps

[opal basin]

it is heavily improved

[ionic gale]

The AI has been a major criticism about this game

[vital canopy]

i have been playing since dec 2021

[opal basin]

i can feel it

you must just not be as discerning idk

its very noticeable

[ionic gale]

I don’t remember the AI myself

I haven’t played the game regularly in a while

[vital canopy]

its definitely a huge improvment from first builds

but still not really playable

they can still lock onto me through walls

and AP and HP can still be sort of broken

[ionic gale]

I will say this

I used to play the game with a lot of mods

That could probably affect the games AI

But I’m not sure

[vital canopy]

for the longest time you had to have AI mods or the game was unplayable

but you can definitely have fun in vanilla now

[opal basin]

i know

[vital canopy]

also its things like, you direct AI squadmates, and sometimes they just walk off

which has been an issue for years

there are so many little things that can really ruin the fun, which are from multiple builds ago, yet they choose to release to ps5 and make even more bugs

[ionic gale]

Yeah it does piss you off

King just wanders about while I’m trying to tell him to stack him against the damn door

[vital canopy]

yes

[ionic gale]

The shield that I give him is really slowing him down apparently

[vital canopy]

or the fact you cant tell them to flash and wait for you to enter

and so many other small bugs/features that should probably be in the game

or fixed

or even some NPC models

hand skin not matching head

you can see inside the void from the back of their neck because the shirt model doesn't fit correctly

[opal basin]

gore head is black despite most characters not being black

[vital canopy]

yeah

if i really took time to find this stuff, im sure i could get a comprehensive list

but its not like void will fix it anyway

[still briar]

Well I hope with the console release comes some polishing. AI overhaul, ragdoll physics and optimization is needed much. If they manage this I look forward to a wider audience.

[vital canopy]

another pet peeve is the development briefings and content showcases

[prisma tusk]

I want those taser ragdolls they teased a while ago 😔

[vital canopy]

people clown them on steam so much, which i think is half deserved half not

they literally once did a whole breifing about a shoe

real insightful on the games development

[ionic gale]

lul

[prisma tusk]

I remember that lmao

They got better after some backlash shortly after that tho iirc

[vital canopy]

yeah

[ionic gale]

Where is the body pillow?

[vital canopy]

i think void has the ability to make the game 100x better than it can be

but they dont take that chance

[opal basin]

100%

also theres just leftover stuff like being able to hold zipties

should have been removed long time ago

[vital canopy]

it could be because of greed, it could be a thousand other reasons

i think ready or not has wasted potential, but its not gone

but there is definitely an experation date

[vital canopy]

yeah

i can see a purpose for being able to hold just the detonators but the handcuffs are kind of useless

also another thing is the same exact conversations playing in the lobby

and once again the story not even being in the correct timeline to the lore

I know many people say the morale system is shallow as well

i remember the first trailers for the EA release portraying it had like interviews with the suspects or at least a cinematic story or something

its really just: lobby > mission > mission complete > walk around to see the new changes in the department > look at suspects in cells > new mission

[still briar]

Gore in RoN is disappointing especially from what they have teasered when Ron was in early stages. I was hoping for something like on the level of RDR2 or TLOU

[ionic gale]

lol with console being cross play

[opal basin]

100% useless. it used to have a use because it was like swat where you needed to hold it out but it is now 100% useless.

[ionic gale]

That means that a whole bunch of people get to finally experience the phenomenon of watchman wakeup

[opal basin]

wdym

[ionic gale]

I just realized that right now

[vital canopy]

the campign mode

the missions are not in order with the official timeline

its tailored to be easier in the beginning and difficult later

[opal basin]

whats the official timeline

is port hokan not the last one?

[vital canopy]

https://ready-or-not.fandom.com/wiki/Mission_Timeline

[opal basin]

l4d2 gore would be sick.

l4d2 has the best gore besides dead island 2

and i haven't played dead island 2 so i'd say l4d2 has the best gore in gaming

although that would be hard to do probably

even just how it is now but with more variety in the models and different skin color head models

[vital canopy]

"For whatever reason, probably difficulty curve reasons, the mission order in game isn't chronological."

[bitter mason]

Ron needs some limb gibs because currently the body part will just vanish

Doesn't need to go any further than limb dismemberment really
Bit of head variations and that'll do

[vital canopy]

there is even a mod on nexus that sets it to the correct timeline, although its outdated

[opal basin]

yeah i mainly just want head variations

[bitter mason]

I never really understand the mission order
Because it's not even in order of difficulty

[opal basin]

it is though

gas is the easiest

the last ones are the hardest

[vital canopy]

in-game it is

[still briar]

Yeah The Last of US 2 represents that very well. Not too over the top. And the blood soaking the clothes is a nice detail

[bitter mason]

Not really
Some are I order but you have missions like ends of the earth just dropped in after ides of March and mindjot

[opal basin]

well it's not exact

it shouldn't be

[vital canopy]

it goes by difficulty and size

[opal basin]

yeah size too

[bitter mason]

Not very well

[opal basin]

i kinda wanna play tlou

[vital canopy]

what do you mean

[bitter mason]

It just feels a bit random at times

[opal basin]

yeah in like 2 missions

[vital canopy]

i mean thats why i am pissed in the first place

[opal basin]

if it was fully difficulty and size based it would feel too gamey

[vital canopy]

the timeline order makes no sense

[opal basin]

i like how there are times where you finish a big level and go into a small one

[bitter mason]

But the order isn't even right timeline wise anyways

[opal basin]

i know that

[vital canopy]

honestly i dont know why they dont use the correct timeline because the hardest missions are still last

[bitter mason]

I just come from the swat 4 school of thought
The level progression is nice
I like a stricter build up of difficult more

[vital canopy]

although neon tomb and relapse back to back is definitely a lot for a new player

[bitter mason]

Originally they wanted to do missions in commander mode differently also
It was gonna be sort of random which missions you could pick they compared it to payday 2s crime net

[ionic gale]

The oil rig just seems silly for only 5 dudes to clear

[opal basin]

it says home invasion is in 2026 but i thought it was 5-10 years after the main game

[ionic gale]

:o

[vital canopy]

big critique by many since the games inception

5 people is stupid

but they always respond "they are underfunded!" or something along those lines

[opal basin]

which is no longer the case

[ionic gale]

After the oil rig, I think DEVGRU got to hire you guys

[bitter mason]

It's not like much of the story is well thought out or present anyways

[opal basin]

it used to be

[bitter mason]

There's tons of inconsistencies and just straight up missing things

[opal basin]

they changed the story, lspd is no longer underfunded

[vital canopy]

the lore is deep and rich, but also very dumb

[ionic gale]

Do you know how much money did LSPD pisses away due to all of our 5.7x28mm addiction?

[vital canopy]

like are we really sending 5 dudes on an oil rig?

[bitter mason]

The sort of hidden lore is deep but a lot of the surface level plots are full of holes or just straight up missing important things in missions

[ionic gale]

The US Government gave dem big bucz

[vital canopy]

especially as americans we love our oil

[opal basin]

in the old description for the SCAR it mentioned that they were only able to buy a few because they were so expensive and it was the only expensive guns they could afford, they completely scrapped this and now most guns are super expensive with gucci gear and everything

[vital canopy]

yes

[vital canopy]

i find it funny how one of the suspects on gas has a pistol that literally hadn't been released publicy ever

[bitter mason]

A big one is the detectives on dealer. There's meant to be two, you can find one dead but the other just never spawns, he even has voice lines in the game files
They bring him back for home invasion and act like you ran into him when you never did

[ionic gale]

Yeah, I was really confused about how the story was gonna go with the DLC maps

[vital canopy]

it was a test build and only a certain number were made\

[opal basin]

yeah lol

i use the mod that makes gas suspects only use glocks

[bitter mason]

Oh yeah some of the weapons for suspects are strange

[vital canopy]

bro bought it at an auction trust

[bitter mason]

So many people running around with the calico

[ionic gale]

Like where the hell did a bunch of women get a Walther MPL?

[woeful egret]

just had a bit of a thought about the ""ban"" in Australia since the console port got announced: spent fkn ages combing thru the ACB website n I can't even find a page for the game listed. while console/physical releases require an in-person review; digital releases only require an online questionnaire to be filled out. Since void would obviously have been planning the console port before the steam page went down part of me wonders if the page being down is moreso due to the game needing a rating applied by the ACB themselves rather than being outright RC

[vital canopy]

i also dont understand why the secret agents dont atleast have lasers or sights on the guns

the only suspect weapon with attachments is the custom ar

[bitter mason]

Void rushing the game out for Christmas and didn't stop to pay attention to the details

[ionic gale]

Suspect weapons in the last update I think got the ability to use attachments

[vital canopy]

personally, this game still isnt ready for 1.0

[prisma tusk]

Yea the DLC maps got it as a sort of interim before it's added to the rest of the maps iirc

[ionic gale]

real

[vital canopy]

any eta on when it will be added to all maps + the squads feature + the ammo box feature?

[bitter mason]

Missing story important characters
Missing dialogue for toc reports
The entire realism first being complete marketing bs
Over exaggerated and caricatureish baddies

[opal basin]

suspects have flashlights now

[vital canopy]

missing a real campaign

[bitter mason]

Yup

Commander mode being complete tat

[prisma tusk]

If I had to take a guess I'd say this upcoming update

but idk

[vital canopy]

awsome

[bitter mason]

Overly tedious for the way this game plays

[vital canopy]

only time will tell

[opal basin]

the over exaggerated bad guys fits with the story being how the crime rate is 300% higher i guess

[near tide]

is the xbox version gonna be compatable with pc

[opal basin]

read the announcement

[bitter mason]

Yeah but like
They are absolutely terribly written and lack any subtlety

[near tide]

whoops missed that

[opal basin]

i kinda like that

it's funny

[vital canopy]

i wish there was more variance with the suspects

[ionic gale]

Wdym

[bitter mason]

I would've liked more of the suspects to have a level of sympathy to their character
But we get pedos and terrorists for most missions

[vital canopy]

i have played so much i can discern what is a suspect and what is a civilian on any map, I know where they spawn, what spawns where

all suspects are suspects

[near tide]

what i think the suspects fit really well

[bitter mason]

The game should have its scumbags
But not every single suspect should be a scumbag

[vital canopy]

only on select maps can they be confused for civilians

[vital canopy]

hard to feel sympathy for people who dont deserve such

i do feel in some maps suspects should blend in a lot more

[ionic gale]

The women cult and the left behind is the best fact in those cases

[bitter mason]

Then even characters that are sympathetic like the brothers on beach house still have the same insanely aggressive ai as everyone else

[vital canopy]

also in terms of core gamplay, having to secure weapons is so painfully inaccurate to real swat forces

[opal basin]

and the beach house

[opal basin]

i play with a mod that removes that

[near tide]

its not, like that the ides of march suspects are angry vet mad at a senator that want him gone and the map with the 3d printers are kids who need money for their mom

[ionic gale]

Oh yeah, that too

[vital canopy]

swat dngaf about picking up weapons

[opal basin]

makes the game so much better

[vital canopy]

its secure civilians, suspects, then intel

[still briar]

I would prefer more suspense over exzessive Combat. Not knowing what happens next. More towards Police Work than Special forces

[vital canopy]

not put every weapons in ziploc bags

[ionic gale]

The cult of women are apparently a bunch of abuse victims who joined the cult to have help and to maybe even hurt their abusers

[bitter mason]

It has a few but like I said they often times still just act like total psychos and the rest of the suspects are completely mad

[ionic gale]

We all know that the left behind was a bunch of fucked over veterans who in Senator Fremont apparently screwed over so that’s why they’re the way they are

[near tide]

yeah

[ionic gale]

And the family in the beach house map are making illegal weapons to help with their mom’s cancer funds

[opal basin]

yeah

[near tide]

all the suspects have a story

[ionic gale]

These three factions are doing crimes, but you can of course sympathize with them at some level

[near tide]

examples?

[vital canopy]

sympathy suspects:
veterans
gas station robbers (barely)
school shooters (barely)

non sympathy suspects:
rest of them

[bitter mason]

I can't help but wish volls weird shrine room would just get removed because it is so comically over the top
Like it goes from this guy is a deplorable creep to oh this guy is also just completely insane I guess lol

[opal basin]

school shooters: not at all

[vital canopy]

mental illness

[ionic gale]

I don’t know much about the school shooters

I would’ve liked to know exactly who they are, but we don’t get any information like that

[opal basin]

every school shooter has mental illness so

[vital canopy]

i think they try to get you to feel remorse with the dad breaking down and writing on the evidence as well

[ionic gale]

Yah

[opal basin]

you can have mental illness without killing people

[vital canopy]

im not saying i feel sympathy the game tries to make you feel sympathetic

[bitter mason]

I can't help but cringe at the dialogue for the school shooters
You arrest them and they just say crap like "alone" "so sad boo hoo" like am i meant to feel bad for these guys

[ionic gale]

Slightly off-topic, but the content of this game may or may not get censored for the console versions

[vital canopy]

with the evidence and such

[opal basin]

does it?

[ionic gale]

I really hope that they do not have to censor anything

[opal basin]

i haven't heard that dialogue

well actually i've never arrested the school shooters

[vital canopy]

wait

[opal basin]

i always just kill them

[ionic gale]

Getting an adult, only rating will completely screw over your game getting out there on consoles at least

[vital canopy]

nevermind they dont i dont think

[bitter mason]

If you manage to arrest them it's some of their random arrested dialogue

[opal basin]

it doesn't have one though

[bitter mason]

You can find it in the game files also

[vital canopy]

yeah no sympathy i got the evidence mixed up

[ionic gale]

I just hope that it doesn’t have one

[opal basin]

why would it

it's the same game as on pc why would the rating increase

[vital canopy]

one of the evidences you can look at after the mission, one of the officers was a father to the victims, so they write all over the evidence

[ionic gale]

All that stuff about censoring games and stuff like that especially for consoles which are a bit more hard-core about what you can cannot show

[vital canopy]

although im not sure if its a father of the shooter or the shot

[ionic gale]

It’s reasonable to believe that it could be censored because of the content of this game

I’m not saying that it is or it’s going to but

[opal basin]

it wouldn't get re-rated though

[near tide]

its still realistic it shows the sad reality of S%x Trafficing of children and Drgs

[ionic gale]

Yeah, it’s an M rated game and I’m glad that the content is still there

[vital canopy]

i feel sympathy for those affected but not by the suspects

[opal basin]

you can say drugs

[bitter mason]

The game doesn't do a good job of making the player want to keep suspects alive outside of for a good score

[near tide]

i wasnt sure what it was moderating

[vital canopy]

yeah a "cant kill this guy!" order is basically what determines who i kill and who I dont

[ionic gale]

I think the left behind, the Vineyard cult and the Asian family of the beach house are the factions that I could sympathize with

[opal basin]

i personally feel really bad killing the security guards on mindjot so i usually try to not kill them

[bitter mason]

I don't even try that hard to spare the left behind because they're still hyper aggressive psychos

[vital canopy]

if my higher ups tell me not to i won't, but everyone else is fair game

[opal basin]

mindjot suspects are the only ones that actually aren't criminals at all

[vital canopy]

well

[opal basin]

mindjot

[near tide]

yeah thats another good example their just hired security who thinks your fake cops

[vital canopy]

might as well be with the stuff on their servers

[humble mauve]

they're just security guards

[ionic gale]

I thought that MindJot dudes exactly knew what they were guarding

[opal basin]

how? they don't own the servers and don't know whats on them

[bitter mason]

Mindjot is so silly bruh
The guards look silly
The damn images of the illegal fire arms and drugs with mindjot water marks is hilariously dumb

[opal basin]

they are 100% innocent

[ionic gale]

I guess it doesn’t make sense that they could just be “wrong place at the wrong time”

[opal basin]

they are acting in self defense

[vital canopy]

i thought it was teased that some of the mindjot employees knew what were on the servers

[ionic gale]

Apparently, in the Lore that the reason why they attack us is because a bunch of dudes apparently tried to read the place faking being police

[hollow cedar]

Whether or not you feel sympathetic is up to you. But a lot of people who commit crimes on a campus are typically students who feel backed into a corner. Commonly bullying victims. That doesn't excuse their actions, but it gives you some insight into why they do what they do

[vital canopy]

well i guess that doesnt mean secruity guards

[bitter mason]

Mindjot guards should just look like regular security dudes with pistols and at most one or two with an smg not airsofters with ARs

Maybe then I'd feel more sympathy for them

[vital canopy]

what

they are doing there job

[opal basin]

yeah i know

[vital canopy]

they know there is sensitive info on those servers, bad or not thats why they are dressed like airsofters and armed like its the revolution

[bitter mason]

It's said in the briefing that some probably know what mindjot is up to and turn a blind eye
And some other thing about a number of guards being kidnapped and murdered for some reason because the game has to be edgy

[opal basin]

i understand that. when i was in school i was in a similar position but i never killed people.

[ionic gale]

Michael is just a ass

[vital canopy]

yeah but the appearence is just what the company requires

[opal basin]

i fucking hated school for the most part

[near tide]

he was just edp

[opal basin]

those zero tolerance policies really sucked

[vital canopy]

if you dont want to feel sympathy why put it on "they look weird"?

[bitter mason]

Even volls security needs variation on some that give up easily because they are literally just there to guard the place while some know about the shady dealings

[ionic gale]

Yah

He’s a furry as well so

[opal basin]

so?

[ionic gale]

Go figure

[near tide]

that was his brother

[vital canopy]

gulp

[opal basin]

go figure what

[ionic gale]

Just something funny

[vital canopy]

i wouldnt continue

[near tide]

i think being a furry was the one ok thing

[cloud hedge]

20 bucks says this doesn’t end well

[vital canopy]

dont want a civilwar breaking out

[opal basin]

yeah lol

[vital canopy]

there are good furries and bad furries, plain and simple

[bitter mason]

Michael is a weeb, streamer, furry, geek, crypto bro ticking all the boxes for fat nerd stereotype

[vital canopy]

its a weird hobby but you just ignore it

[bitter mason]

No subtlety

[vital canopy]

yes

[opal basin]

i'd rank his crimes like this:

1. twitch streamer
2. predator
3. crypto bro

[cloud hedge]

Dude no joke no meme he IS fat in game 🙏

[near tide]

yeah i think that was what he was based iff if he had a discord server open

[vital canopy]

discord moderator

[opal basin]

i mean same amount as normal people

[hollow cedar]

Yup that's why I said you don't have to feel sympathy. However, human behavior follows a normal distribution, and on one extreme exists a group of people who are willing to resort to violence, often impulsively, when pushed.

[opal basin]

i mean i did that

i got suspended for pulling a knife on a kid who bullied me

[vital canopy]

in the end i think celdis is right in the case of the suspects being to bland

[opal basin]

but i never killed anyone

[bright shale]

How's modding gonna work on consoles? Will there be any?

[hollow cedar]

Ah

[vital canopy]

they are all easy to hate aside from like two

[hollow cedar]

But yeah, I get it

[ionic gale]

Could be a fallout 4 thing

[cloud hedge]

Sheesh, how long was his ass doing it?

[bright shale]

I'm hoping so

[near tide]

you can mod gta on xbox so i think people will find a way for ready or not

[ionic gale]

Maybe they get a mod.io integration (😔 )

[vital canopy]

dont get me started

[opal basin]

honestly he didn't deserve it too much but it was near the end so i was mostly fed up with the other people who had been doing it for years

[vital canopy]

waste of resrouces and time

mod.io was not needed

[cloud hedge]

Basically had nothing to lose + dude fuck this guy. Fair

[vital canopy]

what possessed them to not do workshop?

[near tide]

idk

[burnt chasm]

Since when console is the top priority?

[opal basin]

i specifically remember the teacher who saw it bitching about the length of the knife and how it was over 3 inches

was kinda funny

[cloud hedge]

Ooohhhhh naahhhh, clearly the length is more relevant than the fact it’s a knife

[bitter mason]

It's ultimately their presentation and characterisation through voice lines and ai behaviours that need to change to make them better.
Voice lines don't seem to play appropriately depending on the context hesitating suspects still acting super aggressive sometimes even saying they won't give up while giving up
Suspects are generally too aggressive in most cases
Some like Michael probably shouldn't have an army behind them and should be a lot more cowardly

[vital canopy]

when they realized it was an untapped market

[opal basin]

it was just a fucking swiss army knife too lol

nothing fancy

[vital canopy]

real

[burnt chasm]

Void need to step up their consistency with the roadmap

[bitter mason]

A lot of people have been waiting for ron to come to console

[cloud hedge]

Prime society

[vital canopy]

you can tell them all this directly and they still wont do a thing

[opal basin]

ngl console players should just buy a pc

[vital canopy]

thats just the void interactive way

[bitter mason]

I didn't quite expect it to come now but they are very chaotic in what they do it seems

[opal basin]

consoles have been irrelevant for a decade

[vital canopy]

everytime they make a big announcement i know its going to piss me off

[cloud hedge]

Not all of em have the money to throw at a pc

[vital canopy]

I just sigh and click on the news popup in steam

[bitter mason]

I'm just wanting to see what improvements they're bringing and if they're meaningful in any way to bring this game to an actual 1.0 worthy state

But I get the feeling all this time was just them porting to console

[vital canopy]

bugs fixes that will be overshadowed by more bugs because they had to add twice as much content compared to the bug fixes

[cloud hedge]

Fix the fucking reaction time and boom best game ever

[lunar ingot]

atleast they got controllers tho, i like them a lot more than mouse and keyboard for some games

for example rocket league or elden ring

[burnt chasm]

Void your market is shit we dont ask for console yet here you are with some videos with ai slop generic epic voiceover and some what in the actual f ot that art cover in the end

[vital canopy]

could not be truer

[lunar ingot]

element of surprise 🥀

[cloud hedge]

Who’s we?

[bitter mason]

Wish it were that simple but there's a lot more than just reaction times that need to be improved I feel

[opal basin]

pcs have controller support and they are just as easy to set up as a console now with prebuilts, people who bring up the games catalog are stupid, pcs have thousands more games than consoles and 90% of them are exclusives, and most console exclusives are on pc, and you can install other stuff besides just games, and they aren't even that expensive for a decent one nowadays. you can get a servicable prebuilt for like $900, which is only a couple hundred more than a console. AND you don't have to pay extra each month for multiplayer, so consoles are really more expensive in the long run

[cloud hedge]

Yeah people can say skill issue but the wallbangs, crazy fucking accuracy, greased palms, etc, theres still shit to fix

[lunar ingot]

at the cost of an average* pc being like $600 🥀

[vital canopy]

i think its nice to add it to consoles for those who cant afford it, but then making them pay more for guns if they want it on launch is like some ubisoft shit

tripple A scumbag level

[bitter mason]

Again a lot of people asked for consoles
It was a frequently asked question if the game is coming to console

[burnt chasm]

That's entirely stil not the most priority even then there's no sign in the roadmap but hell do roadmap even related now?

[vital canopy]

i think its a good idea but of course void will find a way to execute it poorly

[bitter mason]

Console haven't had a decent single player tac shooter in God knows how long
Big pay check for void

[cloud hedge]

Anyways unrelated played multiplayer for the first time today and a guy had green tinted glasses, some type of secret shit to get or?

[opal basin]

that's super cheap, i think it's even the same price as most consoles now. the PS5 pro is $900 i think. also consoles are more expensive because you have to pay to use multiplayer

[pearl shuttle]

Okay but consoles are $500, checkmate PC gamers

[burnt chasm]

Look at this dude lol

[opal basin]

paying to use multiplayer, checkmate console gamers

[cloud hedge]

Problem?

[bitter mason]

Might be a supporter edition thing idk

[foggy cradle]

they must give console insane aim locks cause this game gonna get shitstormed by console like crazy : D

[burnt chasm]

Yup here we go again with the broken update

[vital canopy]

7.4/10 ragebait decent

[vital canopy]

just like the last 5

cant wait

[burnt chasm]

Broken mods and everything

[cloud hedge]

Aight guys so today on how it’s made we have the MK 78 time inverter

[opal basin]

also just the many benefits of pcs. consoles benefits were never about price, it was about convenience. for the person who doesn't have the time/knowledge to build a pc or maintain one. but now that's as easy as a console.

[burnt chasm]

Gonna need to archive dark water version to play old mods

[vital canopy]

supporter edition was literally just to support the features never even took off

wow cool skins and like 3 dev builds

but you cant complain because it was to support the game not specifically for the dev builds

[burnt chasm]

So that to avoid these sloppy update if its probably 99% chance to happen

[bitter mason]

Its not the devs fault for mods breaking with an update
That's just the nature of modding
Besides they shouldn't break as badly as the ue5 update since that was updating to a completely new engine

[opal basin]

maybe, hopefully they will make it compatible with dark water mods.

[opal basin]

but home invasion mods broke for dark water too

[burnt chasm]

Who hurts you?

[vital canopy]

the steam workshop in question

[opal basin]

all of them even simple retextures

[pearl shuttle]

It's absolutely essential that we have access to more AR15 variants

[opal basin]

there is no workshop

[vital canopy]

thats the PROBLEM

[opal basin]

and i think they actually gave a reason for it

[pearl shuttle]

Steam Workshop sucks

Just use Nexus like a real PC gamer

[opal basin]

what

workshop is great

[cloud hedge]

Nobody? All I said was who’s we because plenty of people DID ask for ron on console

[vital canopy]

i do use nexus and nuh uh steam workshop is good

[burnt chasm]

THIS is what void should work their ass off but NO WE NEED CONSOLE FIRST

[opal basin]

i use nexus and moddb and workshop

workshop is about on par with nexus

[vital canopy]

all valid

[cloud hedge]

Yall weak I use gamebanna

[vital canopy]

banana

[opal basin]

😭

i use gamebanana for like reskins in tf2

only thing its good for

[cloud hedge]

I’m American I don’t like education gamer RAAAHHH 🦅

[vital canopy]

pyrocinical

[pearl shuttle]

So true, that's why people barely used it for OG Skyrim

[opal basin]

if you want real mods use moddb

for reskins use gb

[burnt chasm]

Nah ive got no time, gonna download this at igg games lol

[pearl shuttle]

Game is literally unplayable without more M4s

[vital canopy]

i would rather them add steamworkshop, even if its takes a long time to fix the issues stopping them from doing so

because mod.io is a sorry piece of garbage

[opal basin]

nobody uses mod.io

[vital canopy]

exactly

[opal basin]

everyone just uses nexus

[vital canopy]

yet they still keep it

[opal basin]

idk why

[vital canopy]

just get rid of it at this point

[pearl shuttle]

Consoles

[vital canopy]

make it console exclusive

[opal basin]

yeah they probably keep it for consoles

[vital canopy]

i dont want to have to look at it in the menu and be disgusted anymore

[opal basin]

what if somebody doesn't release their mod on nexus, only mod.io and then the pc player cant use the console guys mods

[burnt chasm]

Game is still looks unfinished yet console marketing at its finest update

[pearl shuttle]

Send them death threats

[vital canopy]

how would you even be able to make mods on console

besides maps\

[opal basin]

wdym

[vital canopy]

or like difficulty sliders

[pearl shuttle]

You just upload them on mod.io lol

Are you not familiar with console modding

[vital canopy]

you use unreal engine to create a map for ready or not right?

[pearl shuttle]

Yes, console people won't make mods lol

That's how console modding has worked for ages

[vital canopy]

ok so it will be like a upload from PC but play on console situation?

[pearl shuttle]

Yep

[vital canopy]

then just use nexus

and mod.io

[pearl shuttle]

How do you expect console users to use Nexus

Oh ok

[vital canopy]

yeah if you care about downloads, upload it to both

[pearl shuttle]

Judging by the like-dislike ratio nobody really cares about whether the game is "unfinished" lol

[foggy cradle]

alrdy pathetic enough that system tells u "unofficial score" if you mod ur game :D .

[hard igloo]

You guys think ready or not will go onto xbox gamepass?

[opal basin]

it's just some words, it means nothing

[foggy cradle]

cause sadly gamers are all brain damaged. we buy early acess and unfinished products for days : /

[opal basin]

just ignore it

[pearl shuttle]

Imagine caring about score tbh

[cloud hedge]

It doesn’t even do anything but ruin recordings 🗿

[opal basin]

how does it ruin recordings even

[cloud hedge]

Idk honestly

[foggy cradle]

Well my dlcs dont have ranks cause it was played with mods so they are "unsolved" :)

[vital canopy]

yet it still saves it as your best score

[opal basin]

not how that works

[vital canopy]

for me i S ranked all the levels with mods

[pearl shuttle]

You guys are keeping track of your scores?

[opal basin]

your game must be broken

[vital canopy]

i s ranked them all with basically cheats then just stopped caring

[cloud hedge]

Just for the swag, got it all today, civs have now become bonus targets

[cloud hedge]

Based.

[opal basin]

i just like to get A+ on all levels once then i don't care

[foggy cradle]

i s ranked them too and got the achievs ofc but the game doesnt recon the rank or its just another dlc feature idk

[rocky helm]

I saw the game's getting a release on consoles? did they fix the AI situation finally?

[opal basin]

your game is broken

[vital canopy]

no why would they

[near tide]

i think if they actually make a gun sdk would make modding for console useful

[pearl shuttle]

No the game is unplayable

[opal basin]

with mods its still supposed to record ranks

[pearl shuttle]

I literally had to make the AI easier to make it past the first mission

[cloud hedge]

Nein

[cloud hedge]

Not the first mission 🙏

[opal basin]

ok so the ai is bad but that's just a skill issue

[vital canopy]

are you missing an arm and an eye 😭

[opal basin]

gas is actually so fucking easy lmao

[rocky helm]

@vital canopy @pearl shuttle @cloud hedge absolutely deadass or memeing?

aint no way

[vital canopy]

deadass AI still pretty buns

[burnt chasm]

What's your point? My point is the game looks unfinished with lack of polished storytelling, still ai with its gunblazing sprinting withou some mods to fix that, and yeah swat ai just buffs their health to coverup their underwhelming 'just run and dont cover' swat tactics

[cloud hedge]

Deadass ai ain’t change

[pearl shuttle]

Nuh uh its unbalanced AI I reduced it to one suspect in Gas

[near tide]

i think its kinda easy

[opal basin]

bro 😭

you cannot be a real person

[cloud hedge]

Aight S rank greased palms first try

[burnt chasm]

But no hell yeah console for the next half year

[pearl shuttle]

K

[vital canopy]

only real ones download max suspect count and play on 15 fps

[pearl shuttle]

I also made it so that suspects can't shoot back

[vital canopy]

no suspects mod

[opal basin]

BRO 😭

[cloud hedge]

Real ones wallbang civs 🔥

[opal basin]

how does it keep getting worse lmfao

[tulip valve]

is there a way to stop the arrest animation?

[opal basin]

you are not this bad

[cloud hedge]

Move backwards

[near tide]

im talking about gas the ai gets more difficult greasy palms is a little more difficult

[pearl shuttle]

I also made my health 9999

[foggy cradle]

@cloud hedge if you push all maps like a dog and dont understand stress lvl of suspect nor the moral dmg system . yep ai is godlike op

[tulip valve]

oh ty

that wouldve saved me 20 minutes of a wasted relapse run

[pearl shuttle]

Nah but fr my hot take is that vanilla AI is too easy tbh

[vital canopy]

never forget your first time flash banging the kids room on the very first build 💔 like throwing a grenade at the baby in modern warfare

[opal basin]

you just switched

[pearl shuttle]

They can't even do full damage to you tbh

[opal basin]

bet you wear no helmet?

[foggy cradle]

who needs helmets they always hit my legs : D

[pearl shuttle]

They aim for everything but the chest and head 😭

[vital canopy]

officer challenge: no helmet, stab vest, pistol only

[cloud hedge]

I know this isn’t cod but perfect wallbangs is something EVERYONE will get fucked by, and the ai having a 100ms reaction time (quicker than the average human, probably impossible with a gun) is flat out bs in a game where one mistake kills you in the next second

[opal basin]

idk why but whenever i take off my helmet i instantly die

[pearl shuttle]

Stab vest is easily the most useless armor option

[opal basin]

i've tried this it was incredibly hard

[pearl shuttle]

Hasn't happened to me since release tbh

[vital canopy]

"i will larp today and go stab vest!" then dies 15 seconds in

[cloud hedge]

Wild

[opal basin]

real

[pearl shuttle]

I don't even use AI mods tbh

[vital canopy]

AI mods just make then more not stupid

[pearl shuttle]

I think Gunfighter is the only thing I'll miss tbh

[near tide]

does it even lower some damage taken

[vital canopy]

smarter but not the john wick level

[foggy cradle]

Like you said the game is not called cod it is a tacitcal swat game :). We dont hold down W and run face first

[pearl shuttle]

Where are you guys getting wallbanged

[vital canopy]

when i have 1000hp mod on i do

terminator ahhh

[cloud hedge]

Yeah agree which is why I like it

[pearl shuttle]

I usually have to shoot through a door to get wallbanged

[vital canopy]

this is true

[burnt chasm]

Vanilla already have 1000hp

[vital canopy]

forgot an extra zero

[foggy cradle]

@vital canopy well just get the no crack mod and run them down also enough. 0,7 reaction and worse aim and its free

[cloud hedge]

No? Like flat out false

[near tide]

yeah the ai reaction time is insane idk how you can easily get past them on later levels

[vital canopy]

i should look at that mod

[pearl shuttle]

Swat have 150 HP, it only feels like you have more because AI damage is capped at like 75%

[burnt chasm]

Wanna proof?

[pearl shuttle]

It's not 1000 HP lmao

[cloud hedge]

Yeah sure what could it be

[foggy cradle]

Yep striaght out false if you dont mod it : )

[cloud hedge]

Me personally past greased palms I used no crack for AI, fuck greased palms all my homies hate greased palms

[near tide]

link imma need this

[near tide]

does it change with diffrent enemy types

[cloud hedge]

Nexus mods: No crack for AI

[near tide]

thanks

[foggy cradle]

No Crack + No Mercy pretty much best Combo for Casuals or ppl who want it more chill

[pearl shuttle]

Get a mod that removes the damage cap if you want something harder

Jug's Gameplay Review is really good for that

[foggy cradle]

Well i just want enemies that hit my armor not my legs xD

[cloud hedge]

Hot take: S ranks should still be earned when going lethal on: elephant; relapse; neon tomb (all decaying city missions basically)

[near tide]

omg yes its so dumb like am i just supposed to let them shoot me

[cloud hedge]

Nah? Def possible just straight aids on neon tomb because the bombers just have immunity to pepperballs and seemingly every non lethal because, funni

[foggy cradle]

But guys we will get a a new pepper pistol this summer so you can choose from 3 guns ! : DD

[pearl shuttle]

Tbf that's the only way to incentivize using non lethals lol

SWAT 4 had the same issue

[near tide]

ive been using the simmunition pistol guns from mods

[foggy cradle]

or taser only

[pearl shuttle]

They forgot to give the proper Glock to the rookie

[brisk wyvern]

what maps were revamped for the update?

[pearl shuttle]

None, they deleted them all actually

[near tide]

dont want to let him hurt himself

[brisk wyvern]

wdym

[cloud hedge]

They deleted ron

[brisk wyvern]

oh

ofc

[hollow cedar]

The point of S tier, in my opinion, is to thematically show just how difficult it is to do everything right. As in, it would be nice to kill nobody, and that's the ideal to strive for, but in real life, that almost never happens. It's hard to be perfect. It's easy to draw criticism and make some mistake

You're supposed to play the game lethal I think. And you're supposed to see how hard it is to do the right thing.

[pearl shuttle]

Woah you're telling me it's supposed to be hard to get the highest ranking woah

[foggy cradle]

Elysium 15 in 15 seconds wants to join the conversation : D

[hollow cedar]

No as in, it's supposed to be borderline impossible when playing the game with lethal, as most swat teams would be doing

They won't bust down doors with less than lethals. If you give them reason they will shoot to kill.

[pearl shuttle]

Well tbf in real life most SWAT call outs don't really result in deaths anyways

[brisk wyvern]

ok but fr what were the maps they revamped

[cloud hedge]

Imo elephant ain’t bad to S rank I just think in active shooter/terrorism scenarios it should still be gotten. Especially considering in elephants briefing they say were going lethal

[hollow cedar]

Yeah but that's what I'm saying. These are high risk scenarios. In such scenarios it'd be nice if everyone could go home but oftentimes that just won't happen.

[pearl shuttle]

Bigger issue is that you're slow AF because muh realism

[hollow cedar]

S tier means a perfect execution and that almost never happens

[burnt chasm]

Probably fast food or hotel or anything that you think of in older builds

[pearl shuttle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zpx-mjyjxCs

[gusty wolf]

@pearl shuttle idk about you but cqb fast isn't safe

[pearl shuttle]

You're supposed to be fast during an active shooter situation

Look at the video above

[foggy cradle]

You just need enough skillpoints in charisma to start a conversation with the terrorists ;D

[gusty wolf]

@pearl shuttle didn't know the context mb lol

[near tide]

just press reply instead of @ing

[opal basin]

i'd think its stuff that got outright removed, hotel turned into sins of the father

[hollow cedar]

The thing is you're only called in when negotiations fail. As in, everything already went to shit.

You can't negotiate with them, because if you could, you wouldn't be there

[burnt chasm]

Yeah hotel is dead idea anyway. Fortunately there's mods by neandhertale that covers my reply above

[opal basin]

yeah hotel is not getting added

[foggy cradle]

Yeps . Loved the way this was communicated CLEARLY in the console trailer

[hollow cedar]

Can't tell if this is satire or not

[near tide]

yeah and you got a think of the timeline twisted nerve went with rust belt

[opal basin]

huh?

[pearl shuttle]

They should add Old Port tbh

[vague locust]

neon tomb is probably the worst map just cause the whole gimmick is low visibility

everything else is pretty reasonable, even the nasty angles on the post office place are pretty easy

[foggy cradle]

play with nightvision it helps as stupid as it sounds

[near tide]

in twisted nerve the tunnels they were making is the same type of tunnels they were making in rust belt

[burnt chasm]

Old port mods are going in development

[vague locust]

ill try that eventually next time i try s ranking it

[cloud hedge]

Well yknow for you suspects are still crack shots

[foggy cradle]

additionally not sure if im crazy but gas mask seems to blur it more than none/balistik

[burnt chasm]

Funny that neon tomb is not even that "low visibility" Cuz since adam update, void literally fucks the lightning with this fog update and ends up decent lit like you see today

[vague locust]

really? shits wack, i can play without flashlight on the final map and still be p aight

but then you got all the mixed lighting and obnoxious railings upstairs especially on the dance floors up top for neon

[vague locust]

should be aight, ive only been headshot twice over like 40 hours without a helmet

[burnt chasm]

Dark map is like twisted nerve

[cloud hedge]

Literally always clear upstairs first same for most other maps with a upstairs that sees downstairs (except votd thats a death sentence)

[vague locust]

my problems not with them looking at first floor, more them having that same visibility BS when you try pushing upstairs

makes me want to turn everything fucking grayscale and disable lighting just so its playable

[burnt chasm]

You need gears like nvg to play the game smoothly without actually going blind of dark

[rocky hinge]

i noticed that ready or not is banned in Australia, if i changed my steam location to somewhere else like UK and buy the game, can i still play the game in Australia with my friends?

[cloud hedge]

That’s just suspect ai being suspect ai

[cloud hedge]

You already asked this in general chat, and were answered in general chat

[rocky hinge]

people in general literally sent me to here??

[cloud hedge]

Refer to the message from S3AN before that

[prisma tusk]

nuuh

[opal basin]

arr matey

[bright shale]

Tbh I'm disappointed the trailer didn't end with "Are you ready...or not?"

[burnt chasm]

We need some generic voiceover like that most epic voiceover from fake mobile trailers

[bright shale]

"You may fall in the line of duty...but you'll be a hero."
Title card
"DOWNLOAD READY OR NOT NOW! IOS AND ANDROID"

[atomic star]

Anyone know if the SWAT AI is getting any kind of upgrade with this update?

They desperately need an overhaul

[north zephyr]

read that title card in James A. Janisse's voice lol

[burnt chasm]

Nah void doesn't know they should prioritize that as their top priority even that is their most anticipated features since 1.0, but f you here's console release

[magic hearth]

https://tenor.com/view/grandpa-abe-exit-confused-bye-bart-gif-7694184

[tulip mortar]

was there ever any timeline put forward to implement the maps form the first map contest?

[near tide]

i know make your game fun before putting it on other platforms not saying it want fun before but its something that hindors fun

[near tide]

real helpful

[pearl shuttle]

Boycott RoN

[old flume]

Guys I bought ready or not on steam yesterday but my laptop can't run it so I use GeForce now cuz I got a good wifi and it runs good and everything on it but I can't get mods so I'm asking if anyone knows a method or something

[near tide]

everyone should just say make ai great again

[magic hearth]

Hey champ are you using the in-game mod.io or Nexus?

[burnt chasm]

I know that everybody wants console but i expect them to do their time management more better on a more game changing features e.g. laser light combo, hooligan bars, drones, fixing and ironing ai to be more smart and not being john wick, and ai swat to be more quick and responsive, hey they told us their inspiration are from swat 3 but they can't do a simple covering and stopping and just go and run trough suspect like its nothing

[old flume]

So the in game mod.io doesn't show up for me

That was strange bc I bought this game like a year ago and it showed up but couldn't do nothing bc ofc my laptop was bad and still is lol

[near tide]

yeah this is said perfectly i stand with this take too the game can be so much better and they choose to just add it to console which is still great that they did that it just seems like the game could do better

[magic hearth]

odd have you ever used Nexus before? there are many mods you can use from there and should be a stop gap solution

[pearl shuttle]

Martin is too busy playing SWAT 3

[magic hearth]

also many Nexus mods are updated for the current version

[burnt chasm]

Voids only cares about marketing, oh also money

[near tide]

lol maybe its starting to seem like that

[old flume]

No I didn't use nexus but the problem is if I launch it with GeForce now it won't load the mods and there isn't a workshop in steam for it

[magic hearth]

Then I'd use Nexus and go for manual installing so you can at least get going with mods, its just drag and drop for most of the mods

if you need help on it more than welcome to let me know

[burnt chasm]

They started like that since the first ever early access back in 2019 gameplay trailer with these mind boggling price tag. That started my suspicion on whether they are a creative indie dev or a corporate money hunger dev

[coral belfry]

So can a hp15 handle this game

[old flume]

Yea that's pretty easy and I can do it just need some help running the game on a 40-50fps (btw it won't even load in if I launch it normally. In GeForce now I get around 60fps smoothly

[near tide]

yeah the price seemed crazy when it was early access and unfinished

[near tide]

HOY SHIT THEY INCREASED IT

[stable kernel]

GFN cannot be modded for this game

[soft wave]

how much is Ron on steam?

[stable kernel]

Since it requires restarting

[near tide]

50 or 60 dollars now

[soft wave]

[near tide]

ik

[soft wave]

Bro I have 9 cents on my card 😭

[near tide]

it doesnt help either that steam takes 30% but still wild

[burnt chasm]

Yup my guess is right 💩

[north zephyr]

got RON back when it was like $20

[magic hearth]

Actually busy playing combat mission instead 😎

[north zephyr]

two weeks after I bought it the price officially went up

[near tide]

at most this game is worth 40 bucks it is very decent

[fallen pelican]

Hello! I purchased RoN early access on PC, does anyone know if that licence will be transferable to PS5?

[cloud hedge]

No

[coral belfry]

Ayo can a HP 15s handle ron

[near tide]

i wish

[stable kernel]

Are you going to keep asking hoping to get a yes answer? It doesn't matter what people say

[pearl shuttle]

wtf traitor

[coral belfry]

I just wanna fucking know tf does it have to do with u

[stable kernel]

You should check the spec requirements on the steam page

[old flume]

In-game mod.io won't show up. Any help?

[near tide]

yeah increased by 10 dollars in 2024

[near tide]

screenshot in clips

[burnt chasm]

I know right judging by how unpolished and lack of storytelling the game is, basically the only game with the plot twist and actual well done storytelling is from hide and seek where judge are intercepted by fisa to close the 'door', and worst its the only level that had those quality. Like that doesn't deserve the 60$ price that, let alone 50$ from the start lol

[old flume]

1m

[magic hearth]

You can't have too much swat 3 you need to detox

[near tide]

yeah thats why that one is my favorate mission but i think its meant to be environmental story telling which i really like

[near tide]

what

[burnt chasm]

But again its not like everything i said that RoN is actually decent in environmental story telling, but RoN is still lacking with voiceover to support the story hence why i picked hide and seek for the topic. I dont know i lost count for a millionth time to say this but void needs to step up their game and actually give the real effort and passion to make the game more better than we expected and not this barebones nothingburger newsletter and devlog.

Edit: Void i know you can read this

[fallen pelican]

I would surrender my PC licence if they gave me a PS5...if that was a thing

[gaunt rampart]

Professional hater 🙏🏽

Thanks void for releasing the game on console!!

[burnt chasm]

This is why the word "consoomer" exist

[gaunt rampart]

yawn