👮ron-discussion

[humble mauve]

ye I saw give me one second

hey @lime raven move to your bug forum

[glossy pollen]

Guysssss

Will more guns be added to the game in the future?

Or ammunition?

[stone bay]

yeah

[stone bay]

maybe?

if you want more gun options there are always mods

[glossy pollen]

By equipment/ammunition I mean more helmets, body armor, and modules for them.

[stone bay]

cosmetics do get released as paid dlcs

again, if i feel like i want some cosmetic, theres a good chance a mod already implemented it

[humble mauve]

so far both dlcs have had sets of cosmetics (roughly 1.5-2 full sets) and have come with additional free cosmetic upgrades (nametags, additional color options, fixes, etc)

[narrow geode]

And still no winter camo

[tranquil shard]

comona nowa, letse gette the workahopa going! WohOOooo !

[stone bay]

maybe next update the los suenos pd is gonna get called to antarctica, not much snow in california

[narrow geode]

Who cares if it doesnt snow
It looks cool

[bitter mason]

D platoon invades russia

[small timber]

What’s yalls favorite sidearm?
I like the 509 but those fins on the back sight are distracting so its gotta be the 92/fs for me tbh

[bitter mason]

Which ever the sig is

[gilded wind]

is there a mod that unlocks all the shirts and pants?

[rich quartz]

Do you guys like easy or not?

[uneven hazel]

I love the Five-Seven because it's basically a pocket-rifle.

[small timber]

True

[tacit gull]

There is a mod that unlocks every customisation in the game

[gilded wind]

whats it called

[tacit gull]

Customisation unlocked i think

There's a bunch of them

Just look for the most recent one

[gilded wind]

alr thanks

[dense rampart]

Hello all
I'm having some trouble. I've been doing levels on lethal, then redoing them on non lethal for the top rank. But I'm on the post office level and can't even beat it lethal. Is there a certain path that I should take? I can do well up until reaching the main, large room with a lot of small gaps but accurate enemies.

[warm kettle]

I made that just trying and trying again

[quartz coyote]

hello people. i have a question, why can't we use guns like the desert eagle or the akm, while npc's can. wouldn't it be a great feature to add all those npc guns as usable guns?.

[dense rampart]

Ah, I thought so. Thanks, I'll keep trying.

[dense rampart]

Police have to follow strict protocols, that's probably why

[warm kettle]

Yeah. Usually split my teams to cover large spaces

[calm cape]

the weapons the police uses are made in country

[quartz coyote]

thats true, would be fun if they added those for like a dlc where your like a private organization like merryweather in gtav for example

[calm cape]

or made by allies

[quartz coyote]

was bout to say lol 🤣

[calm cape]

yeah, so german, austrian, and belgian weapons appear often

[quartz coyote]

yeah thats true

i mean we do have the slr-47 which kinda looks like an ak74u ngl

[small timber]

I will never be able to comprehend my squads mental states, almost flawless game with a few dead suspects and they go from content to stressed but i die to a trap in the first minute and it goes back to content

A+ ranks too stressfull but seeing lead get turned into mushy peas is calming lmao

[jolly verge]

Kills gain stress, arresting alive heal it, nothing complicated about it

[narrow geode]

Using the coffee machine increases stress

[jolly verge]

That why you smoke after that #🎬ron-clips-and-media message

[latent cosmos]

nonlethal they wont be as aggressive and their reaction time will be slower

[dense rampart]

They tend to react instantly regardless as far as I can tell

[latent cosmos]

the ai in RON have stress levels

[wraith basin]

What is this lol

[soft trout]

It is. The sk47 is the only AK weapon platform in the game.

In Alaska they opt to use aks more

Aks can get extremely dirty and still fire reliably since it snows nonstop its more prone tl getting dirty so the AK see it cause up there

[soft trout]

🤔🤔 Maybe because most police forces don't use deagles.? Too lethal? Or something like thst.

[amber dock]

I mean some PD's have weapons that are very questionable on why they are needed

Deagle would if anything be a tone down gun

[clever scarab]

something something complaining about the militarization of police

[shell cliff]

any plan of adding dmr? 🙏

[short tendon]

Is there any reason to give ai breach shotgun over battering ram?

[narrow geode]

No

[short tendon]

is 2 rams and 2 shield good then

[narrow geode]

If you don't seperate your team a lot
2 shields might be too much
Especially on missions where suspects have high level armor and stuff

[short tendon]

what might be better? i use mirror gun for myself

[narrow geode]

Launchers maybe

[tacit gull]

Long tacticals aren't really useful on the AI, a launcher might be good but anything there is usually better used by the player

[small timber]

The m14 and mk17 are the closest things

[tacit gull]

The G3 could be considered one too

[small timber]

And mayve the rifle thats above the pepperball one

SR-16

I hope they bring back the supporter weapons cause the entryman looks so nice

[narrow geode]

B1301 recolor

[small timber]

Ik

[cursive minnow]

Yea I doubt it supporter edition already has a shotgun which is a recolor but if you want the older promo material version of it, somebody made a mod inspired by it: https://www.nexusmods.com/readyornot/mods/1888

No idea if it still works but it is just a replacer so it might.

There's also this one if not: https://www.nexusmods.com/readyornot/mods/5294

[soft trout]

What are reasons to take a taser over pepper spray

[narrow geode]

Second one sucks

Taser sucks too but not as much

[chilly whale]

did the lag get fixed

[narrow geode]

?

[lone cloud]

doesnt elaborate

[lost inlet]

pepper spray sprays orange juice and doesn't do anything.

[tacit gull]

Yeah right now pepper spray just has no function

It essentially just begs suspects to fail the mission for you and civilians always surrender on their own

[void briar]

I also imagine the deag is just far too impractical

Both in terms of firing the gun and supplying ammo for it

If they needed weapons with more stopping power they'd bring rifles

[short tendon]

on most maps my aim gets messed up since i get startled when i dont expect a suspect
can you "learn" their spawns or is it mainly random

[soft trout]

i thought its to get civs to surrender faster

https://youtube.com/shorts/VZsD4bdW5oA?si=CGMXb_DD2gB3pCVR

[soft trout]

so go with taser always?

ty guys\

[trail folio]

do police trailer units still spawn in in multiplayer lobbies?

i havent seen them😭

[wraith basin]

In quickplay only

[covert aurora]

Puru

[wraith basin]

Linch

[covert aurora]

How are you?

[wraith basin]

Fine! Just came from gym actually.

[covert aurora]

Oh fun!

[wraith basin]

Sure was, lol. How about you?

[covert aurora]

I am good, stuck at work

Lol

[wraith basin]

Oh damn, well I hope you will get through easily!

[covert aurora]

It should fine

The spring foward has generally made work go faster

[wraith basin]

Thats good then!

[wraith basin]

Have you been buying some warhammer lately?

[covert aurora]

Here and there. Bought two boxes of scions and two boxes celeistant sacarsants and a chaos lord

Before that two chaos lords in terminator armor. One for a sorc in term.

[wraith basin]

Damn! Have you been able to store those too? I remember, you having like basically all armies or something?

Been playing some Mechanicus again and the OST everytime is so damn good. Noosphere especially.

[covert aurora]

Basicly almost every army expect the god spific legions and both knights and one xenos

[wraith basin]

Thats insane and impressive lol

[covert aurora]

Lol some of my models are at a friends and some are at my so. Need to figure out a perminate storage for them

[wraith basin]

I dont doubt that haha! I can imagine how much space they take...

[covert aurora]

Quite a bit 🤣

[lost inlet]

Yes.

[tacit gull]

They never did, they could only spawn with a mod

[trail folio]

ik they were part of the adam update when it first released

[white hill]

Suspect takes hostage
Shoot suspect in head as he's unloading his pistol towards me and my team
-50 Unauthorized use of force

[amber dock]

Nope they came with 1.0

[trail folio]

thats what i meant😭

[amber dock]

Adam was the update before 1.0 G

It came out like dec 2022

1.0 came out a whole year later

[white hill]

I will always say 1.0 didn't feel like it was even half ready

[tacit gull]

That's because it wasn't, the game is still basically recovering from that update

[amber dock]

Anyone who doesn’t agree with that are same kind of people who buy the cod every year and say it’s amazing

[white hill]

Like right now? It feels pretty good, still needs a lot more features to bring it in line with it's fellow tactical shooters, but damn if it wasn't undercooked on release

[amber dock]

It could’ve been worse, but deffo could’ve been a lot better

[tacit gull]

I'm of the opinion that the game was actually just worse on 1.0 than in EA

[white hill]

Absolutely. Honestly the biggest gripe I have is not being able to mix attachments

Then again I just wanna be able to have the Aimpoint on every gun

Because I love the aimpoint

[amber dock]

If 1.0 was labeled as another EA update it would’ve been less critiqued

[tacit gull]

Oh absolutely, if 1.0 was just the second part of ADAM like it was supposed to i wouldn't have said shit

[amber dock]

Cause 1.0 means the game is supposed to be finished and only have very rare bugs and issues but ovbs that wasn’t the case

[white hill]

What was the reason behind it being 1.0 anyway? Just got way too confident?

[amber dock]

Probs

[white hill]

👆

[tacit gull]

I'm pretty sure 1.0 was a higherup decision that said come hell or high water we're increasing the price on the game at the end of the year

[prime garden]

guys should I get ready or not?

it's on sale and I wanna ask people who played it for advice

[white hill]

Nah, you should eat pickled eggs instead

[tacit gull]

RON is currently the cheapest it's ever been

[white hill]

They're pretty tasty

But in all seriousness, get it and the DLC

[amber dock]

Says the rich man

[radiant crown]

My 250 hours spent would say you might consider

[prime garden]

ok thanks guys

[tacit gull]

i'll buy your supporter edition for 1 cent

[prime garden]

I'ma buy it rq

[amber dock]

Um buy it for yourself cause you need it more then I do

[tacit gull]

no

[amber dock]

Okay then don’t complain that you’re not in NDA

[tacit gull]

no

[amber dock]

Fine

[tacit gull]

[covert aurora]

[mighty ice]

lmao

[covert aurora]

1.0 was amazing it was the best update ever >:) j/k 1.0 could of been better i agree

[prime garden]

game has been successfully purchased

[covert aurora]

Welcome!

[prime garden]

Thanks

I'll play as soon as it's downloaded

[mighty ice]

there’s gotta be more updates in future.

[covert aurora]

I am sure there will be

Something is happening next month what it is idk

[prisma tusk]

not soon, soon™️, but specifically apparently

[amber dock]

If you wanna know the scale of soon check pinned in #💬general-discussion

Wait where is it

[prisma tusk]

#💬general-discussion message

[amber dock]

Anyone got link to Kam’s message about the diff types of soon

Surprised it’s not pinned

[stable kernel]

Wow

Rude

[amber dock]

Oh it is pinned

I’m silly couldn’t see it

[covert aurora]

Its not showing in the pins for some reason

[stable kernel]

No it is

I recall on pc it’s really small for some reason

[amber dock]

Should be under Kams message about FAQ about home invasion

[covert aurora]

Ah its not show on my phone for some reason

[fathom laurel]

is elephant S rank just impossible now solo?

I see these people online saying (1.0) "oh you have three minutes" no you have like two

[cursive minnow]

I wouldn’t say impossible but is pretty heavily reliant on luck and RNG. Overall though if you focus on dealing with the shooters first you can get everything else done fairly quickly.

[fathom laurel]

I scan the entire school except for one room and the shooter is in that room.... it feels so unfair

I wouldn't be against it since it's probably some moral about school shootings but god darn I need this for 100%

[rain bolt]

i recommend you take the north exit and restart until you get one guy at the first door

it will give you a good start

theres usually one in the theater, and library

after you get 3, the last one will usually rush you and then boom S tier

i did it with just one element of my ai team but did most of the heavylifting myself sooo kinda solo basically

[fathom laurel]

OH MY GOD I JUST DID IT

I have to find the bombs now but I know 1/2 so

[rain bolt]

did you check the computer room?

[shy tulip]

Less yap more bomb defusing, time is ticking

[rain bolt]

you got this Mind i believe in you

[fathom laurel]

phewwwww I got it

that was so RNG dependent... the last suspect literally walked up to me and whiffed all shots so I could arrest him

[covert aurora]

Way to go!

[fathom laurel]

of course the minute I complain about it I pull it off, took about 6 hours
edit: officially DONE!!! just collected all the evidence, so happy it's over

[rain bolt]

Hell yeah good job man

[fathom laurel]

anyone know how I could see the evidence for elephant? I got it on S rank, medal of valor and all but there's no evidence in the evidence locker yet

[shy tulip]

I don't remember if it has an inspectable evidence, but there is a box there.

[covert aurora]

Theres some, i think ots a backpack a social media thing and something else

[fathom laurel]

I found some evidence online but I can't actually find it in-game in the locker

[covert aurora]

Try reloading your lobby?

[fathom laurel]

^ will do, unfortunately have to get off for today but I'll do it tomorrow

[hexed prairie]

do ingame mods work?

[shy tulip]

All the in-game mods should be up to date and functional, yes

[rain bolt]

go to the evidence room it is on the left, you'll even see a box with really bad writing that has ||my boy|| and ||fuck this|| written on it

every evidence piece also has a name section that has its mission name or something of reference to the mission on it

and they're color coded too

[calm jacinth]

I keep failing to get S rank on Dorms because apparently I'm missing a soft object to be reported. Any idea what it is and where is it located?

[jolly verge]

Lectern on the second floor

[tacit flicker]

is single player lagging like hell for anyone else

[stray fossil]

stress system terrible

idc how careful i should be with them like within a mission or two the entire AI team is anxious and now i have 3 in therapy with one in crisis out of therapy

[jolly verge]

Simply arrest few suspects alive to offset stress from killing

[stray fossil]

i've barely killed anyone

only the ones that shoot, which hasn't been many

[jolly verge]

Barely?

[stray fossil]

yes not really too many, normally clear with flashes and they'll surrender

at least that's how it's worked for me so far lol

[jolly verge]

1 arrested suspect always offset stress from killed one, sometimes 2 if you lucky

That all because of kills, nothing more

You can also take trait that reduces stress or increases heal from arresting

[stray fossil]

well i mean how can i possibly avoid it when they're all sitting around a corner waiting for us to breach? i mean even aside from the fact that i should be killing less if i haven't been, how are they getting so stressed out when we're killing terrible people

im also a little newer so bare with me im using my very little amount of brain cells that i have left

[jolly verge]

Grenades, less lethals, traits, you have bunch of tools to make them surrender

The most OP one is using 2 negotiators, that will force suspects surrender with 50% chance after first yell

[dark mural]

Guys I gotta ask

what music do you play in the background while doing missions

[narrow geode]

none

[dark mural]

Cause I've been addicted to listening to Gawr Gura singing Take Me Out to the Ballgame for the past few days rn

Thank you Dodgers for allowing Hololive to soothe me as I raid

[dark mural]

https://tenor.com/view/gawr-gura-gura-guralfr-lfrhahaha-gif-18928401

why must you curse me discord

[tacit gull]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/717498714259980378/1349406608136077322/go_my_centurion.gif

[short tendon]

what’s the difference between suspect morale and the other things

[calm jacinth]

let me guess, that altar thing in the middle?

[soft trout]

is there a way to set the red laser to a blue laser?

on gun attachments?

[amber dock]

Nope

Maybe with mods but I’m not super sure if a mod like that exists.

Cast will have to chime in with his mod knowledge

[soft trout]

https://youtube.com/shorts/VZsD4bdW5oA?si=CGMXb_DD2gB3pCVR

i see it in this video

so i think its a mod? then

[mighty ice]

it is a mod

because basic, theres no blue laser. just red. green i think.

[amber dock]

Yeah if you’ve seen it in videos then it’s 100% a mod

There’s only red and IR laser

[mighty ice]

ye

[stone stump]

might be this one https://www.nexusmods.com/readyornot/mods/1356?tab=description

[lost inlet]

and other what?

[short tendon]

other suspect modifiers

[tight granite]

How is there only like 4 English speaking RON milsims?

There's really only one, maybe 2. All of their discords are inactive.

[amber dock]

Because most people running milsims realise that it’s not as fun as they expected

[tight granite]

Nah milsims are fun as hell. I refuse to play public lobbies.

[cursive minnow]

Depends on the milsim if it's the overly serious larper type yea not very fun.

[tight granite]

The sweatier the better unless they're stuck in early GWOT tactics.

[amber dock]

Yeah, if it’s the kind of milsim where you have mandatory attendance and ‘training’ days then it’s like come on man

[cursive minnow]

You can have a good sweat without having to be yelled at by a so called drill sergeant during the training phase and such.

[amber dock]

And requiring serious comms or 3rd party software etc, like if you enjoy it fine. But I don’t wanna make it a chore/job

[tight granite]

Fair. I don't want to get yelled at by someone young enough to be my kid.

[tight granite]

I like training. You can't learn CQB in an hour and a half.

[cursive minnow]

Chill people - Common Interest - Open mindedness - Willingness to listen and try new things. That's the type of milsim for me none of this wannabe navy seal, cag, military, crap.

[tight granite]

I did a 3 day class with a DARC instructor using sims and feel like i barely scratched the surface.

[amber dock]

DONT POINT YOUR WEAPON AT THE TEAM

[tight granite]

I always laugh at that. Flagging will happen. It can't be avoided. Just don't pull the trigger.

[calm cosmos]

Twisted nerve still bugged for evidence?

[cursive minnow]

Yep

[calm cosmos]

:( I love the game so much but I just wanna get full S rank

[cursive minnow]

Well you either get extremely lucky or use a mod to disable the need to pick up the evidence.

[mighty ice]

yeah them wannabe navy seals delta force type shit piss me off lmao, they didnt see 2003-2008 peak iraq war, years later its like they just automatically tell people what to do and im like its a game no need to get shouted at when ur in 20s lmao

people get on to have fun, chill. not to fully sweat thinking they seen action in irl lmfao

[mighty ice]

milsim cringe the serious ones

[tight granite]

They didn't see it, but they refuse to see past it. Every milsim I've been in is still using CQB tactics from 2005.

Which is a credit to newer guys because the updated TTP's haven't reached mass exposure yet.

https://youtu.be/byB-8VJ0Jck?si=w1x2S-IMQdaGknHV

The game even does it. No one uses split stack anymore.

It triggers the 'tism

[tardy condor]

I like men

[white hill]

The irony being the only game that it makes sense for is Six Days

[tardy condor]

Six Days in fallujah?

[white hill]

Yes

[gilded wind]

i need s rank in valley of dols

[white hill]

Don't we all

[tardy condor]

same

[gilded wind]

i meant a+

[tardy condor]

Yall I just need a B on valley of dolls so I can get the t shirt and jeans 💔

[gilded wind]

the compression shirt?

[tardy condor]

no

just the t shirt

[gilded wind]

ah

[mighty ice]

super easy

bean bag shotgun, flash every room job done

[gilded wind]

i dont have the map unlocked 🙏

[short tendon]

why not just gas

[copper silo]

gas has the lowest aoe i think

[narrow geode]

#🎨ron-screenshots-and-art message

[jolly verge]

Yeah, but it's enough to clear rooms, it's also spread around objects, while flashbang and stingers can be blocked with anything

[gilded wind]

whats the loudest gun

[narrow geode]

mirror gun

[unkempt kelp]

where the OCE people at?

[narrow geode]

?

#🔎looking-for-players

[unkempt kelp]

how do i know which server is faster for me @narrow geode

😔

[cursive minnow]

Well game connects peer 2 peer so that depends on the host and how close they are to you but if you're looking for people to play with even in OCE region than #🔎looking-for-players is the best way to do it.

[unkempt kelp]

ohhhh that's interesting

never knew that thanks!

OCE is closest to southeast asia right?

[cursive minnow]

According to google yes it is but for best connection results with another host you'd likely want to try finding someone within your country or as close to it as possible.

[unkempt kelp]

ohhhh right thanks

[night copper]

How do i get more fps? Yes i lowered the settings but still get fps spikes (Im not buying anything)

[cursive minnow]

You can try this: https://www.nexusmods.com/readyornot/mods/5384 outside of that not sure there's much you can do. Just recommend you make back ups of anything it asks you to edit and/or replace.

[night copper]

are you japansese

[gaunt gale]

Naw, they're just a weeb

[austere snow]

100% achievement was a pain in the ass but its done

proud of myself

[sturdy heron]

хто в репо?
разом з дівчатами
R.E.P.O.

[amber dock]

#alt-languages

[sturdy heron]

i dont see ukrainian

[amber dock]

Thought we would have one by now:/

[stable kernel]

People have to make one and have it populated and then apply

[twilit robin]

having a debate with a mate.

Is there an expanded explanation for 23 megabytes. The briefing suggests LSPD are responding to shots fired and the mother reported being killed.

the mother is alive and the mission hints at a “swating” event.

But then there are 12 armed thugs ready to fight the cops?

[amber dock]

It's a illegal bitcoin mining operation and servers also spread CP

Still doesn't really explain the armed thugs but what do I know

[twilit robin]

heheheh I hate cryptobros as much as the next guy but I don’t think it’s a crime unfortunately 🤣🤣

[amber dock]

I'm pretty sure the last part is a very serious crime

[twilit robin]

yeah it’s a bit silly, still probs my favourite mission.

Oh yeah definitely. My interpretation of the story is LSPD just stumbled on the CP starting the abused storyline rather then going in knowing of possible CP

[white hill]

Gotta protect the operation I guess lol

[soft trout]

oooh thank you 🙇

[radiant crown]

Has anyone recently managed to get "Way out west" achievement? I've tried every combination it came to my mind, with AI without, using mirror gun and not, arresting suspects and not, etc. Now I dont know if it's just bug that made getting this impossible, or there are some requirements not mentioned in description.

[amber dock]

No mirror gun

[radiant crown]

It's not a weapon but still, I completed it multiple times without using it, just having on my back, cause cant leave it empty, can I?

[amber dock]

#💬general-discussion message

Try that and getting a C grade

[radiant crown]

If that will work, than damn those descriptions are useless 😄

[amber dock]

yeah I know

Gotta keep trying man:D

[radiant crown]

I've already completed sleeper agent after 50 hours of trying, I do know that 😄

[radiant crown]

F me, first attempt without darn mirror gun and success, even died on last sus and AI just finished. Still got it. No words xD Thanks a lot

[amber dock]

Nice one

[naive cove]

I think my bots are more aggressive

Im using a beanbag shotgun to do S ranks

But like, damn they feel alot harder to fight

[edgy linden]

I just use ready or not here I come very hard settings

And watch ppl drop like flies

[tardy condor]

Guys I'm stuck on neon tomb cus I haven't found the last civvies and enemies, are there any more secretive areas here?!

(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻

[elder nova]

there's a second bathroom on the ground floor accessible to the dance area if you haven't found that

[kind zinc]

why did all my progress on commander mode wipe, the score is still the same I have to redo the campign

[tardy condor]

thanks i found the last enemy

ill let the search and secure thing find the last civvies

[elder nova]

I'm trying to solo clear neon tomb without AI
it's one of my favorite levels because I can't see shit

[tardy condor]

How many levels are left after neon tomb

just completed it now

[elder nova]

like maybe 2-4? Most notably relapse and hide and seek

[tardy condor]

Buy cheap buy twice is next

[cursive minnow]

It's 4 missions after neon tomb.

[tardy condor]

okily

[void briar]

what's the chronological order of all the missions?

i read somewhere that if we follow the actual timeline judge goes thank you come again -> neon tomb -> relapse

reassign this man to a counterterrorism team or something why is swat dealing with this

[cursive minnow]

There's a mod for it on nexus: https://www.nexusmods.com/readyornot/mods/4628 though it only goes up to home invasion DLC.

[elder nova]

holy shit I actually one-man-cleared neon tomb
with an AI mod that makes professional terrorists harder to deal with

[kind zinc]

neon tomb is easy with gas

[elder nova]

I wasn't using gas

the LVAR made quick work of the suspects though
when the last guy ambushed me from behind, I was able to incapacitate him with it before he even hit me (I got really lucky tbh)

[mighty ice]

or 4 players, 6 flashbangs each

[elder nova]

but then it's not a completely solo clear
I opened a friends only multiplayer lobby so that not even friendly AI would spawn
this works for me especially because, without friends, there's no risk that anyone would join me

[white hill]

I honestly don't understand why they WOULDN'T have them in order of date

[shy tulip]

Because you go from gas station STRAIGHT into neon tomb

They are more or less based on difficulty with some exceptions

[stable kernel]

"some"

[shy tulip]

my bad, you go from gas straight into the (arguably) hardest three missions in the game and then finish with spider

[tacit gull]

We will never forget the beaches of ides on 1.0

[stable kernel]

The real skill check is finding all the suspects/civs in twisted nerve to this day

[tacit gull]

That is with the hiding mechanic essentially disabled on a lot of the map

[stable kernel]

George M my beloved

[white hill]

I rember the days of having an entire squad wiped by a single crackhead

[tacit gull]

That stopped being funny once 1.0 dropped

[white hill]

I will fully admit, I do kinda miss the old hotel

[white hill]

Yeah then it was just like "Weren't you fucks supposed to fix this?"

[tacit gull]

But in EA? you couldn't even be mad

the shit the ai pulled was just unhinged

[white hill]

I feel like EA was much more interesting and coherent in terms of worldbuilding, but that's just me

[tacit gull]

sprinting through doors once they become open, pushing their guns through walls, spawning in front of the entry point, disabling the firerate limiter on their pistols

[tacit gull]

RON in general seems to be better as a series of concepts rather than a coherent product

[wraith arrow]

epic thx

[tacit gull]

Once you actually consume the story with all of it's "writing" and ""acting"" you'll realise it's incredibly shallow and meaningless

[wraith arrow]

yo, i have a question, what you think about this font?

https://www.nexusmods.com/readyornot/mods/5625?tab=description

[white hill]

Like I understand coming up with shit and dropping it because the game isn't even "ready" yet. But man, I loved the original ARG stuff

[wraith arrow]

I separate RON into different sections because if you try to have a "straight" line of all the events and happenings, it doesn't work.

different days, different events, happenings and occurrences

[tacit gull]

Yet all of the pieces on their own don't stand on their own feet

[wraith arrow]

so

if you can repair the RON line. what you gonna do?

general question for everbody

[white hill]

What do you mean?

[wraith arrow]

the events, the worldbuilding, the story, gameplay etc

to a greater or lesser extent with the original material, nor by completely changing the lore itself

or the game itself*

[white hill]

Make it like SWAT 3 and 4, it doesn't NEED this elaborate web of pedophiles and cultists

[tacit gull]

Personally i would just scrap everything the game is going for and start from scratch writing a story about the people and officers of LS, rather than this weird pseudo narrative that twists and turns and has like 500 tangents

The best example i can think of is this judge supersoldier bullshit

[wraith arrow]

left behind my goat

[white hill]

I just want a realistic portrayal of life as a SWAT officer

[tacit gull]

In SWAT 4, your character is mysterious simply because you project yourself into his shoes, it doesn't need to go any deeper than that

[white hill]

If more gamified for the sake of, well, gameplay

[tacit gull]

RON goes into it and it falls flat on it's face because it's completely out of left field

[wraith arrow]

Are Left Behind two separate branches? The Rogue Secret Service and those who shot Freemont from the penthouse? Was Left Behind (The Rogue Secret Service's) plan B?

many question

[white hill]

No they're the same guy, the secret service dudes were plants

[wraith arrow]

aaah yeah, the USIA J.U.D.G.E. project

[white hill]

Shoulda gone for SWAT 3, especially in the AI department

[prime wing]

Theres is no sleeper soldier storyline

[tacit gull]

SWAT 3's ai wasn't that great either, but they had lots of interesting interactions

[prime wing]

https://tenor.com/view/1984-gif-19260546

[white hill]

Honestly I've had better luck with them than RON's ai

[wraith arrow]

I just installed the mod to put a swat with crazy lines of dialogue and I'm dying of laughter lol

||Femboy|| TOC x Crazy SWAT

[tacit gull]

Actually SWAT 3's ai have many of the same problems RON does, the entire structure behind it was based on S3

The thing is that the problems are somehow less common in S3, a game from 99

RON doesn't really iterate on it with proper fixes for what OBVIOUSLY didn't work

[wraith arrow]

I was just getting clips out of Valley of the Dolls and a companion AI got stuck in the boxes outside of Voll's office.

bc the door was open in his side and cant close it

[white hill]

Maybe I'm just not remembering the problems, but the only real issue I had with them was them being a bit suicidal

Definitely not as goofy as RON's can be sometimes

[tacit gull]

They also don't have terrible one liners like in RON

[white hill]

I can't remember any of them, but I can sure as fuck remember "AS AN ELEMENT, BREACH BANG AND CLEAR, GO WHEN READY"

[stable kernel]

"My friend's stolen motorcycle must be somewhere here."

[white hill]

Nvm, I remember one, "These handcuffs are biodegradable, so atleast you're lowering your carbon footprint"

Which like, shut up

[tacit gull]

"Fuuuuuuuuuuck"

[wraith basin]

"Drop it or you're gonna get shot!"

[stable kernel]

"I'm not dropping anything" (mid surrender animation)

[wraith basin]

"Put the fucking gun down!"

[amber dock]

‘Single shot to the engine block’

Best line in Ron

[wraith basin]

"a fucking SWAT TEAM?!"

[stable kernel]

"Money... or the right thing?"

[white hill]

"Fuck you!"
Said in a voice that sounds like the dude swallowed lye

[wraith basin]

I love when sometimes you yell for compliance and hear three different guys with same voices yelling "no fucking way!"

[white hill]

The one dude who yells "Please, over here, we need help!" has been in the game since the beginning, that's either some really bad luck or some really good commitment to being so underwhelmed at being taken hostage.

[wraith basin]

I even heard the line from woman in Relapse not long ago "you look like the guys in movies, nice guns!" or something like that.

I thought it would not happen anymore.

[white hill]

I know they'll never do it, but I pray that by some miracle, they remove split stacking

[shy tulip]

only the ogs remember how nice our tattoos used to be

and our Mexican maids

[white hill]

Those were the days

[golden hamlet]

Did they give up on the PvP idea btw, I don't really follow the specifics of the game outside of DLC announcements and stuff

[amber dock]

Not given up on, just not a high priority atm

[golden hamlet]

Aight just curious because the game has been out for like over a year now, wasn't sure

[tacit gull]

"BE A GOOD BOY AND DIE"

[white hill]

Honestly I'd rather not have PvP in a game like this, just doesn't really fit IMO

[golden hamlet]

Yeah I don't care either way since if they don't add it then that just means more work going towards the rest of the game

[white hill]

I just wanna see this game reach it's potential

Like, I do enjoy playing it, but there's stuff like the ROE and just general AI behavior that need ironing out.

[rich cobalt]

"eat my ass, pig!"

[elder nova]

PvP might be fun, except I'll bet everyone that enters would be like 100x better than me in terms of reaction speeds

[rich cobalt]

not really
if they do add PVP, the mechanics will most likely be kept the way how they are- no sprinting or special abilities

itll be slow paced like swat 4's pvp

[tacit gull]

It's alright, you can be the one spamming gas on the entire map and getting kicked for it

[rich cobalt]

you should see how VIP escort goes.

its nothing but pepper spray and CS gas.

[elder nova]

no I mean people will simply react to seeing me faster than I can react, resulting in me failing pushes and dying

[rich cobalt]

no one gets kicked though.

[golden hamlet]

Lol I don't know how many people that play Ready or Not are old enough to remember SWAT 4

[rich cobalt]

happens to everyone if you dont play it religiously, but i doubt anyone with a short attention span will vent their COD energy here

[golden hamlet]

That game was dope

[rich cobalt]

youre in my way, boss..

[golden hamlet]

Makes me wanna get some guys and play it again

[rich cobalt]

wish i was able to but im out of town

gamespy servers are still up for PVP though

youll see a VIP escort (or rarely, barricaded suspects) pop up every night and then

barricaded suspects is your usual TDM with limited lives

VIP escort is..
chaos.

[white hill]

The best part about that tactic, it's actually realistic

Just pump a building full of CS

They'll come out

[shy tulip]

Methinks pvp will probably be more generic than that and probably won't have arrests

It seems like such an annoying mechanic, especially being the one arrested, and sitting the game out

[elder nova]

people hate when real-world military tactics are used against them
it's almost as if they're used because they're efficient and effective
but in any game that isn't a milsim, you can easily make someone rage just by being effective

[rich cobalt]

in SWAT4, arrests arent required, but give you a lot more points

[shy tulip]

I would 100% rage like my CSGO days being beanbagged by someone camping a corner

[rich cobalt]

its also much more demeaning to arrest a player

you can talk so much shit after too

its funny

[white hill]

Honestly the whole point and grading mechanic should only be for objectives, not for how many people you arrest

[rich cobalt]

i meant in pvp..

for barricaded suspects and VIP escort in swat 4

[white hill]

That too

[tacit gull]

I think the arresting mechanic is awesome

[rich cobalt]

in barricaded suspects PVP, its only required that you make the other team lose their lives whether itd be through arrests or incapacitating them

[white hill]

I like the idea of getting the drop on someone and arresting them

[rich cobalt]

in VIP escort, your only objective is to uncuff the VIP (a random player armed with only a pistol) and make them escape, or, hold the VIP hostage for 2 minutes as the suspects and then execute them after that time window

[tacit gull]

Is it competitive? No.
Is it a good mechanic in the combat loop? Maybe
Is it fun? MAYBE
But it's super social and it allows you to bully someone after arresting them

I want PVP to be a party mode rather than a supercompetitive boring shooter that nobody will play after exactly one week

[rich cobalt]

if they do ever implement the same game modes in RoNs PVP, they should make that arrests should give whoever was arrested extended respawn time (in VIP escort), or, remove 2 lives instead of 1 (in barricaded suspects)

[white hill]

The little smack on the back of the head is insult to injury

Especially in PVP

[tacit gull]

Oh in the PVP you get to headbutt

That would be particularly funny without a helmet

[rich cobalt]

in the alpha PVP, being able to disarm and arrest someone from their front was a pretty cool mechanic

loved the mocap animation for it

[tacit gull]

They were a bit ridiculous, but absolutely badass

[rich cobalt]

cant say the same for the voice acting though..

legacy TOC and judge's voice in that alpha..

[tacit gull]

THERE ARE OTHERS HERE

I CAN FEEL THEM

[rich cobalt]

and dont get me started on the suspects and the suspect announcer

READY OR NOT, HERE I COME!!

cant believe he actually said that

[tacit gull]

https://tenor.com/view/me-atrapaste-es-cine-its-cinema-cinema-esto-es-cine-gif-12869046600151364058

[white hill]

Keep it

It's perfect

[rich cobalt]

if they do add pvp, ill lose my shit if they give you the option to say corny shit through the dialogue menu

we need judge to say that in his new voice

[tacit gull]

Insurgency had great shittalk

Most of the voice acting in it was also great

[white hill]

I want to be able to drive stun someone while they're arrested

[rich cobalt]

definitely using high ready for pvp if it is ever released to give the illusion of "sprinting"

will never find a use for it ever in pve but in pvp its a must

[tacit gull]

Honestly sprinting in pvp would work compared to pve

[dense rampart]

"Toc, I'm feeling sick, I need a warm blanky, and a cup of hoy chocy, over."
"Copy entry team. Continue your mission."

[chilly thorn]

Can you do beat cop with riot shield

[scarlet flax]

Sounds like Dauda from GTFO lol

[white hill]

“Lead to TOC, I frew up”
“TOC to entry team, score one for the good guys”

[void briar]

Entry team to TOC, I just cranked a 90 on a suspect

TOC to element, that's an epic victory royale

[jolly verge]

Yes

[mighty ice]

Swat 4 TOC is the best. we need that female back

[soft trout]

How does one effectively use shield? It feels like i get shot even while hiding behind it? am i supposed to crouch or press a button?

[narrow geode]

You can crouch

It doesn't protect that well anyways

[jolly verge]

You can also lean to the ground and then crouch, this gonna fully cover your legs

[soft trout]

how do you lean to the ground?

[jolly verge]

Alt+S

Release S button and then crouch

[soft trout]

🤔

what does the alt + s command do ?

[jolly verge]

Allow you to lean to the sides or get lower

[soft trout]

ahhh thanks

[waxen echo]

Do levels reset after quick restart in quick play?

[jolly verge]

Yes, you have to start mission from the start

[soft trout]

Does the flashlight blind enemies?

[jolly verge]

Nope

Only you

[soft trout]

:X hmmm

is there a levle where i dont ahve to worry about civs and can njust go gun blazing?

[waxen echo]

I meant like enemy/civs/traps positions

what's the word

Randomize?

[jolly verge]

They are randomized, yes

[waxen echo]

[jolly verge]

All levels have civilians. 3 letter triad map have only 1 civi and 20/24 suspects

[soft trout]

ty

[jolly verge]

The only map without civilians is Lethal Obsession, but there only 3 suspects

[soft trout]

can enemies see your lazer?

[jolly verge]

Nope

[waxen echo]

wait WHAT??!!!

[narrow geode]

They can see the flash light
Sometimes

[jolly verge]

Yeah #🎬ron-clips-and-media message

[soft trout]

🤔 Is it possible to "heal"? other than stopping bleeding?

[narrow geode]

no

[jolly verge]

Stopping bleed already heals you back to 50%

Every time

[soft trout]

is it possible to "unload" shotgun rounds to swap from slugs to buckshot?

[jolly verge]

Nah, you better use buckshot or slugs alone

[narrow geode]

Slugs suck

[jolly verge]

Buckshot much better compare to slugs

[soft trout]

yeah i'm getitng that impression :x

thought it'd be smart to swap to slugs for long range fighting or something but, idk it doesnt seem that good

[jolly verge]

Buckshot effective on any distance in this game

While slugs start drop it's damage after 25m

[soft trout]

💀 thats terrible why use them then

[jolly verge]

It's oneshot suspects with body shot, but only up to level 3 armor

[narrow geode]

S rank is also terrible
But people are still going for it

[soft trout]

:X i just found out that theres a move fast button

is walking viable? Or can i just unbind it and use crouch everywhere i go?

[narrow geode]

I mean
You're slow no matter what
So

[soft trout]

🤔 nvm i thought i read that hte low ready lets you move fast i guess not

[jolly verge]

It's does

20% faster

[mighty ice]

kinda moves u fast

gun down sprint

[soft trout]

it feels like the same movespd :x

[narrow geode]

To move even faster you can equip heavy armor full coverage with steel plates

[soft trout]

yes and did you know gullible isn't in the dictionary?

[soft trout]

are you sure? the tooltip says its just for immersion // roleplay

[jolly verge]

Yeah, from 240 units to 288

so 20% faster

[soft trout]

if you run out of ammo during a mission are you cooked?

[jolly verge]

Pretty much yes, unless swat ai is still alive, they have infinity ammo as long as you give them at least 1 pack of ammo

[mighty ice]

facts

[mighty ice]

definitely cooked

[mighty ice]

i carry 7 mags, 6 flash bangs. dont need anything else.

get mirror gun out, if there’s enemies just open flash them, thats it

instead of just opening door then get a john wick just automatically aimbots you to the head and thats it ur dead

[robust yarrow]

Muh limited penetration

[shell cliff]

10mags + breachshotgun is enough 👍

[white hill]

I thought TOC was male in SWAT 4

[mighty ice]

can switch to female toc

[white hill]

Hm, the more you learn

[tacit gull]

That's not a thing?

[prime garden]

guys is there a way to disable push-to-talk?

[cursive minnow]

Nope game is only push to talk.

[cursive minnow]

Yea I just tried looking for this and as far as I can tell there is no such way to do this in the default game and I cannot find any such mentions of a female toc for swat 4 online so probably a mod for it but I couldn't even find any mentions for a female toc in a swat 4 mod either just pops up stuff for ready or not but my guess would be it's a feature in a bigger mod for swat 4.

[gilded wind]

whats the best gun to achieve a+?

[limber ridge]

Can you put on a mask in singleplayer mode?

[cursive minnow]

As in a balaclava? no not without mods.

[limber ridge]

okay, ty!

[limber ridge]

You don't happen to know a mod for that right?

[mighty ice]

https://youtu.be/hV6lYprkW7w?si=KBxHh741SnwfuBVe

this female swat at the start

but there is s mod for it on ron

[cursive minnow]

Yea that’s not TOC though.

[gilded wind]

nvm i didnt read the singleplayer mode mb

[cursive minnow]

Yea there’s the multiplayer characters with balaclavas of course

[gilded wind]

to use mods in multiplayer does the host also need the mod?

[twilit mulch]

for most mods, host is the only one that needs the mod

unless it's a map mod for example

[cursive minnow]

Generally no but depends on the mods.

[gilded wind]

its the customization unlocked mod

[cursive minnow]

That’s client sided so no host doesn’t need it

[gilded wind]

alr thanks

[stone bay]

when is the next dlc coming out?

[narrow geode]

Yesterday

[stone bay]

whoa, whoa buddy

[narrow geode]

🐟

[cursive minnow]

Sometime this year is all we know. Could be anywhere from now to Dec 30th is what was stated previously.

[stone bay]

damn, aight tnx

[azure mural]

Playing Leviathan. Who are these two dickheads in blue shirts who keep running around the map and refusing to be arrested?

[mighty ice]

them guys said fuck swat we running, had me using flash grenades just to get them on the floor

[azure mural]

Lmao they keep screaming “SHOOT ME!”

[mighty ice]

lmao

[azure mural]

Are they civilians or are they with the terrorists?

[mighty ice]

blue shirts civs

[azure mural]

Great so they’re just idiots

[mighty ice]

they running from u you terrified them

they was saying “ we out here “ lmaoo

[jolly verge]

Usual suspects with level 2 armor, but without weapon, they use noncompliant archetype, so it's kinda hard to make them surrender

[rose peak]

someone wants squads

[mighty ice]

ye

some suspects just run and shut doors then decide to kill us after being on the floor hands up, im like why you running from us lmao

[azure mural]

Bro I’m trying to save you from a fucking terrorist attack that could destroy the entire Pacific Ocean why are you screaming at me to shoot you

[ivory scarab]

do flashlights have any effect on suspect morale or accuracy?

[jolly verge]

Deal some morale damage and stun for 8 seconds, just like stinger

[cursive minnow]

The flashlight does?

[ivory scarab]

flashlights stun for 8 seconds?

[jolly verge]

Oh, i read flashbang, not flashlight, my bad

[ivory scarab]

thats what i was guessing xD

[jolly verge]

No, they do not affect suspect morale or accuracy

[ivory scarab]

hmm, ok. thanks

depending on distance, would be interesting if it stunned for like a second or two, especially in a dark room. but might be hard to code, idk

or too op

[mighty ice]

they said fuck that im gone

[void briar]

if you search the map you'll see that there were a few people working on the oil rig that helped set up the attack

[rain bolt]

9mm and blackout is generally good but the most important thing is the bullet type, you always want JHP over AP. I recommend having JHP on your primary and AP on your secondary for emergency situations.

[void briar]

is a+ no kills only incap/arrest?

[rain bolt]

But gun wise however, the MP5 platform is generally good, shotguns are a hard nope, the LVAR is nice, some other pdw's work good and some 5.56 rifles too. you want to completely avoid 7.62 however its always a one shot one kill

[rain bolt]

yes basically

you can get away with arresting 1-2 suspects and killing one in some situations

basically cancelling eachother out

[void briar]

interesting

[jolly verge]

A+ is 95%-99% of max score, you can kill as long as your score is not lower than 95%, as example on gas map with 4 only suspects you will get A+ with all of them killed

[rain bolt]

its crazy when i bought this game i barely touched it for years then all of the sudden im now a nerd in it and im so glad it is this way

[jolly verge]

If there 5 of them you will get A only

[void briar]

i suppose on maps with more suspects the penalty for killing them is a smaller percentage overall compared to the base mission score

[jolly verge]

The more suspects on the map, the more points you can lose for killing them, -30 points for each kill/incap

So on maps with few suspects it's easier to get better grade

[rain bolt]

other day i heard that you could get S by incapping but didnt work

the theory was you get "secret" points for cuffing the incapped suspects

[jolly verge]

With mods only

[rain bolt]

i see

[narrow geode]

I think you get points for securing suspects
Not sure

[jolly verge]

Yeah, 5 only

[narrow geode]

How generous

[jolly verge]

for dead/incap

[rain bolt]

for reporting you mean

[jolly verge]

Yeap

[narrow geode]

You won't have to worry about any of this if you turn off "show points" thing from the settings

[jolly verge]

The game sometimes turns it off anyway, so you gotta press F3

[glossy needle]

Is the fastfood map available anywhere to play? or atleast recreation of it?

[copper silo]

#1304566897718853645 message)

[gilded wind]

hm

[gilded wind]

wdym

[molten nimbus]

Hi, I just want to ask about the Dark Water level. Is LSPD SWAT is suppose to be based off of LAPD SWAT, logically what jurisdiction would LSPD have to deal with a hostage situation on an oil rig even if it’s off the coast of Los Suenos. It seems to be more of a federal jurisdiction and a situation where the military would get involved (i.e: Delta Force or the Seal Team 6 would get called in).

So i think if u guys want to keep it in, for storyline believability, i think there should be some justification for why the task was given to LSPD SWAT & not Delta Force or Seal Team 6.

[rain bolt]

You know how when you're choosing out your grenades n such theres a section for magazines and you can choose between JHP and AP

basically that

and if youre asking what 9mm and blackout is, they're calibers. they're usually mentioned in the weapons description

[void briar]

I mean I would imagine leviathan is more of coast guard duty first of all but the US government at all levels is pretty grossly mismanaged considering all the shit that goes down with FISA

Not really sure if SWAT should even be doing the first 2 dark waters levels

[gilded wind]

ah , thanks

[cursive minnow]

I'm no lore expert but I believe at least the yacht and oil rig missions are joint operation's with C.O.A.S.T. RoN's version of the coastguard.

[void briar]

Probably why we got the heli cam. But they really couldn't have spared the manpower for more boots on the ground?

That's one thing that bothers me. Some missions we've got joint ops or whatever but we're only ever told they're there, or you might see someone standing outside an armored vehicle, but you still gotta kick down all the doors with a squad of 5

[rain bolt]

yw

[spice wren]

we need an update to the ai where if a suspect is being tased they wont execute them

[rain bolt]

we need an update where ai will stay silent and not yell at a suspect thats on the other side of the map

[spice wren]

that to

[void briar]

Every damn time at 4u

[rain bolt]

narcos too that messed me up

[void briar]

I keep thinking we find a suspect outside but they're yelling at the guy behind the counter in the shop or something

[rain bolt]

like i have the best plan formulated then boom one of my teammates starts yelling

[spice wren]

i was mid taser on a suspect and my ai teammate with a shotgun blew the guys chest open

point blank range to

[ivory scarab]

why JHP over AP? i thought most of the enemies had some kind of armor

[amber briar]

Is RoN VOIP always on "PTT" setting? There's no switch to be "open mic" instead? Because I'm playing it with dual sense 5 controller.

Is there way to make this game having open mic VOIP instead?

[rain bolt]

Well with AP you can never be sure. The suspect may have armor sure, but with AP you might end up killing them which count against you getting the A+ score which is what our friend here is trying to achieve

[ivory scarab]

but if they don't have armor, HP will do more damage and more likely kill them, no?

[void briar]

Ap always deals less damage than jhp against penetrable targets

[jolly verge]

Depends on caliber and armor

[rain bolt]

Maps that have "armored" suspects include, not including the DLC maps; Relapse, Neon Tomb, Sinuous Trail, Valley of the dolls, all "The Left Behind" maps

[void briar]

vs chest and head they deal equal damage assuming no significant armor, ap deals like a third of jhp vs limbs

[ivory scarab]

i see

[rain bolt]

well my friend, a quick insight into how bullets work show that HP, aka Hollowpoint rounds expand on impact which causes a punching effect to the suspect while AP, as its name inquires, pierces through the suspect

[void briar]

300 blackout is way too powerful imo

[rain bolt]

this is why suspects who get shot by HP rounds usually end up incapicitated, while with AP, they can easily die

[void briar]

or maybe 5.56 is too weak

[ivory scarab]

well yea, i thought it was that expansion that caused the most damage

[void briar]

?????

[rain bolt]

but again, in the grand scheme of things, the caliber always matters here

[void briar]

dawg ap and jhp deal the same damage

[rain bolt]

it causes more stunt power than damage, but nearly similar values

[void briar]

unless you're hitting armor then jhp takes a while

5.56x45 and .300 blk both are 2 hits to torso

for both ap and jhp

[jolly verge]

Same with 7.62x39

[rain bolt]

to kill or incap

[void briar]

incap

[jolly verge]

and 7.62x51 on maps with extra health

[rain bolt]

7.62x51 is goated

[void briar]

7.62x51 is 1 shot incap (on most maps) but you're quite likely to get a bleedout

especially with jhp

[jolly verge]

Both AP and JHP is 100% will cause bleed on artery hit

and this caliber oneshot only on maps with no extra health

[storm vine]

bro i cannot bring order to chaos on carriers of the vine, i swear ive explored the whole map like 10 times and i cant find anyone else

[rain bolt]

me and the boys when we pull up to the crime scene with battlerifle calibers:

[rain bolt]

prepare for a jumpscare

[storm vine]

there wont be one

i literally left and did the whole thing again

and i still cant find the last suspect(s)

[jolly verge]

Did you check church and basement?

[storm vine]

yes

thoroughly

[ivory scarab]

i had mine bug out once on Sins of the Father as well

[shell cliff]

i just realise theres a special command after u kill ur npc team 💀

[rain bolt]

which only works if you have your team alive afaik

[void briar]

i know this is a USA based swat game but the weapon variety kinda sucks nuts especially among the 5.56x45 rifles

[white hill]

I mean the AR-15 platform IS the most prevalent rifle in law enforcement

[shell cliff]

dont tell me u want famas

[warped copper]

What? Really?

I'll have to try that ig

[white hill]

Anyway, I know it would probably never happen, but fuck I want a rework of the stress system

[void briar]

we have basically the g36, f90, and whatever ar15 you want if you don't want to use the g36 sights or a bullpup

[shell cliff]

equip non-lethal for ur teammate , u use lethal weapon and pew pew

[warped copper]

Wait they fight back?

[narrow geode]

Make sure you're far away from them
If you want to see it

[void briar]

which is effectively a similar amount of weapons in the other rifle calibers

[white hill]

Yes

[jolly verge]

Officers stress?

[white hill]

And that's a good thing

[white hill]

Yeah, I fucking hate the system

[jolly verge]

What wrong with it?

[rain bolt]

i equipped a beanbag shotgun for my team

it did not work, trust me

once they're prompted to come kill you, they do it with extreme accuracy

[white hill]

I understand that officers are people, and they have feelings, but holy shit the members of SWAT that they've got on your team are the biggest pansies ever.

[rain bolt]

imagine the bots on greased palms but on steroids

[narrow geode]

Even if they cant take you down
Suspects will
Because your hp is set to 1

[rain bolt]

whaattt i did not know that

[white hill]

If only they were that accurate when engaging suspects

[narrow geode]

They also become invincible

[rain bolt]

im pretty sure their accuracy depends on the amount of years they spent in the force

[rain bolt]

damn theres no winning

[jolly verge]

If your problem is stress gain from kills you can reduce it by using traits or increase heal from arresting alive, or you can simply edit stress values in config, you dont even need a mod

[void briar]

or you just run like 4u non lethal

so what's the damn point

[jolly verge]

Nah, their accuracy is fixed at 3.2 value and affected by Veteran trait only

[white hill]

That's just it, I can't use traits if they aren't unlocked

[white hill]

EXACTLY

The stress system literally does not need to exist

[narrow geode]

You can play quick play

[jolly verge]

This or just arrest few suspects to offset stress

[wraith basin]

The fact that your officers get upset for killing suspects but not about losing their squadmates is weird.

[rain bolt]

i see

[white hill]

yes, and I do often, but I also want to beat Ironman mode

[jolly verge]

They do gain stress from dead squadmates/player

[tame badger]

How to edit stuff in config

[rain bolt]

guys is the game crashing often for yall?

[white hill]

Not for me no

Though it did crash once yesterday

[rain bolt]

yesterday i mustve crashed like 5 to 6 times tryna play narcos

[tame badger]

Only crashes for me when I had mods that weren’t updated

[rain bolt]

in the end i played around and got it to work then today i couldnt even load into rust belt

[jolly verge]

#🔧modding-chat message

[void briar]

the stress mechanic is sorta just trivial to bypass outside of spending time running 4u until they're green

[wraith basin]

Thats odd. How much they get stress from that? Is it more than killing suspects or..?

[tame badger]

🫡

[void briar]

like yeah there's the % chance one of the 4u suspects becomes him and deletes you or one of your officers

[jolly verge]

Killing/incap suspect is random value between 0.04 - 0.08
Dead ai squadmate - 0.2 stress
Dead player - 0.15 stress

[wraith basin]

Alright then, thanks for correcting too.

[jolly verge]

Do you need config with default values?

[void briar]

did i get automodded

[jolly verge]

Yeah

[void briar]

ok let me rephrase
arresting SELF DESTRUCT vest suspects in neon tomb is hilarious in concept

[tame badger]

You can do that??

[void briar]

i think you can?

[tame badger]

That would be mad hilarious

[warped copper]

Yeah if you tase him

[void briar]

i know that i arrested at least one

or my friend did

[tame badger]

Fun fact, I died twice in rust belt and my team remained Content lmao

[void briar]

imagine being so slow to the draw that an officer is able to slap zip ties on you

[jolly verge]

If you arrested few suspects/civi then this why, it's heals stress by 0.08 for each suspect and 0.03 for each civi

[warped copper]

Also since I'm still new to ron can someone explain what happens after I die solo? Like I see my AI mates will attempt to clear the area but always fail to do so or am I too impatient?

[tame badger]

Also, I head canon to SBAGS trait stands for Shitbags 😂

[void briar]

i've had a friend die early and the ai officers cleared out the rest of the map

[jolly verge]

You have to restart mission, even if swat ai clear map somehow next mission wont unlock

[tame badger]

I thought when you die the mission forces a unresolved

[warped copper]

I see thank you!

[void briar]

pretty sure he had to do it again but you can watch helmet cams from spectator

[tame badger]

Me whenever I die it forces me to the score screen, tells me unresolved and all I can do is click “return to HQ”

[jolly verge]

Stand by assist group support

[tame badger]

Ah, yeah makes sense lmao

Do traits stack? Or it’s better to just have a team with varied traits?

[void briar]

they do

[tame badger]

Sweet

[void briar]

or at least some do

[jolly verge]

Depends

[void briar]

idr which ones

[jolly verge]

Armorer and kicker dont stack, intimidator stack up to 2x only, other up to 4x

[void briar]

imagine armorer stacking

14 hit ceramic plate

oof embeds not allowed

[jolly verge]

Before some update ceramic plates were so OP you were able to tank +30 shots from 7.62x51 AP

[void briar]

suspect attempting to injure the officer in heavy armor + shield

i love that you can turtleback with the shield

[tame badger]

You can what

[void briar]

had a suspect rush me in neon tomb from behind and the shield gave me enough time to turn around and double tap him with the mk17

[tame badger]

lol nice

[jolly verge]

You can equip two shields actually

[tame badger]

👀

[jolly verge]

One in your hands and one on your back

[tame badger]

How

[jolly verge]

You need a mod that adds shield option in tactical

[tame badger]

Ohhhh

[void briar]

we need workshop support

[tame badger]

Idk I like the way modding works

[void briar]

what is the reflex sight that kinda looks like this called?:
___
(___)

excuse my terrible ascii

[opal basin]

Ultradot pan av

[void briar]

yeah that's the kind i'm thinking of

gonna scout for a mod with that sight as an option

[halcyon cove]

Are we discussing about Ron?

[tame badger]

Yes

Are the devs ever gonna add a classic M4 with carry handle for the swat to use

[amber dock]

There used to be one but it got replaced by the MK18

Highly doubt it will come back officially

So mods will have to do

[tame badger]

Sad days

[timid arrow]

My only complaint about this game, and idk if there’s a work around for this, is the AI swat body blocking doorways

[frail pier]

Can RoN add spike strips so I can throw them at suspects

[civic sail]

if thats your only complaint you aint played long enough lmao

[timid arrow]

I only have about 200hrs lol

But for awhile it was all I played in what little free time I had

But now I have plenty of free time at the cost of losing my job ;(

Everything else is usually fixed with mods

[stark birch]

I just started playing today

I'm addicted

[amber dock]

addiction hotline exists

[stark birch]

Family will have to call mulitple interventions to get me off this game

[amber dock]

damn

[stark birch]

Do you have a favorite secondary btw

[amber dock]

M11 or 1911

[stark birch]

I'll have to try them both out

[amber dock]

but people like the 5.7 cause of it's mag size and power it has

[stark birch]

Been sticking with the G19 for a bit now

[amber dock]

But I personally don't use it often

[stark birch]

Sounds good thanks brother

[cursive minnow]

I like the 5.7 because Sam Fisher like's the 5.7

[amber dock]

Damn that is cool

Cast is cool

[grizzled sphinx]

Anyone got advice on how to fix glitched achievements?

[cursive minnow]

Define "glitched"

[grizzled sphinx]

Like doing due process and it not being achieved but I incapacitated 2 suspects and arrested them

That kinda glitched

[cursive minnow]

Should be working fine #💻tech-support message

If you're trying to do it in multiplayer try single player.

[grizzled sphinx]

I did it single player it is same with the rust achievement. I am doing Commander mode and not getting them.

[amber dock]

Try quick play instead

[covert aurora]

M11! Tho i been favoring the 509

[amber dock]

I forgot which gun is the 509

Anyone send a image

[opal basin]

its tan

looks like the m11 but tan and a bit different

[amber dock]

Oh yeah that one

Yeah it's good

[covert aurora]

That one

Tho i have a mod that changes it to black

Hoping one day for void to add a p320

Not the smg one, just a regular P320

[amber dock]

I want a GAU 8

[humble mauve]

1% chance for it to randomly fire and injure the player

[covert aurora]

Lmao

[stable kernel]

Only 1?

[covert aurora]

I'd say 30%

[amber dock]

Americans with gun knowledge

[covert aurora]

Lol

[amber dock]

I just know guns go pew, pew pew and BRRRRRRRRRRTTT

[covert aurora]

Pew pew brrrrrrrrrrt bang bang

[tacit gull]

receiver 2 is down the hall

[soft trout]

Am i missing something? people were saying that if you go low ready you can move faster, i'm not moving faster my friend is keeping up with me

walking normally too

[cursive minnow]

It's only a tiny boost by default.

[soft trout]

the tooltip says its just for immersion and roleplay purposes, I just ran with a friend who was wearing same armor (light) i'm wearing ceramic, shes wearing steel. I did not increase distance at all.

Are we SURE that its a tiny boost or is it just copium?

[shy tulip]

It is a tiny boost. What armor you wear does not change your max speed, only how fast you hit said max speed.

[gritty coyote]

elephant bomb defusal mission in commander is actually bad design

the game doesn't even let you sprint

[amber dock]

I mean the timer is long af so you have plenty of time

[cursive minnow]

It's the active shooters that are the real reason why you need to sprint.

[sacred dagger]

this sounds very familiar.. would anyone be able to identify the specific mod used for the SWAT dudes voice? https://www.youtube.com/shorts/WTIyBNx79As

if possible, it'd be cool if anyone could identify that TOC as well

[white hill]

Nah that’s fine, the problem is YOU getting punished for civilians on the other side of the building being shot. I can’t be in two places at fucking once.

[white hill]

Been using the 509, it’s a fun little pistol

[white hill]

Based Revy pfp

[gritty coyote]

screw this map

I never want to play it again it's so bad

let us sprint if you wanna do a timer

[white hill]

Elephant needs WAY more officers.

Like 20 atleast

[gritty coyote]

like why the hell are you slow walking when you are about to die

worst map in the entire game

[white hill]

Non lethal Valley of The Dolls may genuinely be the worst.

[gritty coyote]

this single map is ruining my entire commander run due to worst RNG for the bomb

bombS

"find that bomb"
go find that for me then

I am so frustrated by this stupid map
how did I pass it the first time and now on replay the bombs are all random

[gritty coyote]

finally the bombs spawn next to each other. will never play this map again.

[pastel adder]

Been meaning to ask for a while on if it’s possible to reload the spare magazine you get on the Raider pistol carbine?

Or is it just a one and done thing

[shy tulip]

I believe it is one and done as an emergency

[soft trout]

how does one repin a grenade?

[shy tulip]

https://tenor.com/view/you-don't-invincible-omni-man-jk-simmons-that's-the-neat-thing-gif-4390372980992221432

[chilly thorn]

Non-Lethal Hide and Seek

[white hill]

[tacit gull]

hide and seek isn't even that bad because the ai cant hit the broadside of a barn on that map

[chilly thorn]

The new ai is a little too easy and too predictable

[tacit gull]

Don't worry, we're gonna get difficulties so the ai can be overtuned in 3 different ways 🙄

[frail pier]

I better see john wick AI

If its just bullet sponge mfers and increased suspects im gonna lose my shit

[cursive minnow]

What if it's both?

[frail pier]

Even worse

Increased suspects and aimbot would be fine but I dont wanna see a mfer get shot 8 times in the chest

[tacit gull]

Suspects on elephant magically get full plate armor

[frail pier]

Also 800hp

[shy tulip]

I declare

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-skill-issue-skill-gif-24485644

[white hill]

Don't worry, it's the CIA gifting them full IBA gear and Daniel Defense ARs

[tacit gull]

How generous

[opal basin]

we already got that

[tame badger]

https://discordapp.com/channels/310075021882294272/921528178789474314/1352867613231022202 @serene swallow I just did it with the AI team and got a F... they executed like 4 civilians lol

[dense rampart]

Really? What areas sucked? I got s in second try. (Not a brag, I suck at this game.)

[white hill]

I’m not too horrible at this game, I just hate the large living area near the back of the map with all the windows.

[dense rampart]

I'm stuck on it too. The bombs have a huge timer, but man they start executing civs after what feels like no time. Maybe it just isn't great with ai teamates? If I could just say "spread out" I'd finally get it 😦

[white hill]

Honestly, the way I do it is don’t even worry about civvies, don’t let them die, but if you see one keep moving, if you see a shooter, yell at him, he’ll probably shoot, so shoot him.

Treat it like triage

1. Shooters
2. bombs
3. civvies

[dense rampart]

I do ignore civs, but even bum rushing COD style, not even stopping to arrest (the ai can do that) with a stinger launcher, I just never find that fourth guy before they pop the shot.

[white hill]

It takes a bit of love from RNGesus

But the main thing is don’t worry about trying to be non lethal

Kill the fuckers and move on.

[dense rampart]

https://tenor.com/view/xqc-gambling-gamble-gambler-gambling-addiction-gif-25801242

[dense rampart]

I don't get S without nonlethal, and if I don't get S I don't get all the cosmetics, and if I don't get all the cosmetics I can't live with myself (just one more achievment, I can stop anytime.)

[white hill]

Honestly I gave up on S rank, it’s just not worth it

That and I have the cosmetics I want

[dense rampart]

fair enough

[white hill]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/666448105633349642/1352392459589517392/image.png?ex=67df2aa0&is=67ddd920&hm=616972c2baadf86add57f244c30ef4f3765ecf60e1fea4be7b7223206ec58488&

Since I can’t post images in here lol

This is my fit, or atleast it was until I realized it was two different shades of multicam