#👮ron-discussion
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OHO THEY DID A TURN AROUND ON US THEYRE ACTUALLY ON MY SIDE
Very nice very nice
That's what pvp would be like, I've seen so many ppl running the same mod that makes them go very fast like sanic
And without an invasive and updated consistently anti cheat, ppl would just cheat
Can we get winter camo instead
idk why people assume pvp means comp or something
a simple tdm mode does not take anything away from pve development
Yes it does
no it doesnt
It takes away people from pve public lobbies theres another anything
what
I SAID IT TAKES PLAYERS AWAY FROM PVE PUBLIC LOBBIES THATS A PART OF ANYTHING
no i said what because thats such a ridiculous point lol
if someone wants to play pve they will play pve
you only need 5 people to fill a lobby in this game
so thats a non issue
If someone wants to play PVP they can go play cod like the dumbass they are
werent you complaining about public pve lobbies earlier too?
It's a police tactical shooter
or yesterday
Yes but like I said, you said anything
so is swat 4 (this game is inspired by swat 4)
Yes I know and swat 4 shouldn't have PVP that's dumb
okay
Glad you see it my way
you have objectively bad takes
That's a matter of opinion
okay lol
If they add pvp, it won't be anything like cod.
ok? 
lol
yeah and if we get the sdk it would be very cool 
That's more of a when, I hope lol
Hey guys, I'm trying to compile a list of modded maps that still work properly with the SWAT AI in single player, a fair few are broken with SWAT AI not following commands properly etc. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Sanctum's Deceit and Hell Comes To The Hills are a couple that I can confirm for sure that are working. There are some more but I can't remember offhand.
Where if there was an invincible war of ready or not
Ye
Not broken anymore, too late though since the mods on it are outdated
Man, fuck all this PvP talk, I just wanna be able to pair a flashlight and a PEQ on my rifle
I want that not to happen so bad 
I just wanna grill for God sake
Well damn it im going back to nexus then
who needs a laser 🤔
void is never releasing the sdk so this is never happening 
I don't want mods for it, I want THEM to do it
I want it in the game
They're already working on it
but is it ready............?
No
gratr giving straight answers with no hesitation
is this game playable just fine without vc, just using the textbox?
why does ts keep forcing me back into the same lobby
imo it should be
Not really no
Communication is key slime 💯💯💯
whats the point of even trying to communicate when 80% of the playerbase are americans that dont understand foreigner accent
What do you expect from an American made game?
Then don't talk damn
theyr irish... 💔
use voice chat
no
you have been kicked
i love ready ron multiplayer
Also you can use #🔎looking-for-players
to be honest games to me are more fun when youre just texting
Thank fuck I have friends to play with 
friends? what does that mean
didnt ask for it but, i was looking for the channel but couldnt find it so thanks i guess
Or not?
is there any mod where i can spawn npcs just to slaughter them, sort of like a sandbox?
what is the least owned achievement
Sleeper Agent and therefore Getting Your Sea Legs
it's not that difficult as it is time consuming
true
one is meant to disarm the suspects and gather them as close as possible to each other or more precisely well within 15 seconds of walking distance from each other
also how dif is the dark waters dlc im planning on buying it i just recently started tho
took me around 40 minutes solo with bots
being biased towards liking RoN too much I might not be the best to answer but it's great.
It's action packed, thrilling and the first mission - Mirage at Sea - is an active shooter mission. Far from Elephant but still requires hunting down of the main suspect to prevent hostages being taken out
I wouldn't say dark waters is more difficult than the base game
it's very much in line with the original missions
i hate the second mission of the home invasion dlc so many houses that i raided bro
it is my first tactical shooter tho so ig it figures
Most people think narcos is the best map in the dlc 
Lawmaker ftw
its a good map ngl its just so annoying all of the houses
i like RoN a lot too its so good and i heavily disagree with the steep learning curve part especially if you play with friends
hear, hear
RON doesn't really have that though, it's pretty straightforward
Most confusion i think comes from bad QOL
Whats QOL
quality of life
referring to all those small bugs that bring the game down a little
GLITAH!!
once in the server mission yk where the child p is stored or whatever i saw feet at a desk but not the body i was so confused i thought it was a bug i go inside just to see a body inside of the desk with only the feet visible
that's darkness worthy of Ready or Not, very fitting for that mission 😂
also during that mission my friend killed 1 civ almost killed 3 other civs and shot me
i wasnt even being kinda like a threat i was just walking together with him with him behind me and he shot me accidentally
yikes, that calls for some CQC/B training
if you think hel even do cqb training with me is crazy he plays too much cs2 and those type of games so it figures ngl
time for new friends 😉
their loss
Real imagine playing rocket league over this
I can't
all of them, got all achievements
yeah thats crazy how
dedication. First 50 hours I just enjoyed the game, then I decided to get all achievements. After that I had no life anymore
280 hours later, I'm still not bored of the game
is their any updates planned for the game?
aye, that's been talked about several times. Apparently nothing that will come out soon
wanna play with me i wanna see how massive the skill dif is
whenever you can
alas, it's too late for me right now. If you're from Europe, feel free to add me and we'll play sometime
yeah im from europe 1+
lovely
i was confused about how you were so good at this game until i saw you joined discord in 2017
yeah that clears it up
😂
the earliest join date i saw was like marc h 2019
I'll have to introduce you to some friends of mine then, u might fit right in
awh man
Wdym?
what country r you from your name looks russian
a mixture of those who are recent on Discord and those who've been using it for a very long time
aye, made that nickname with just that in mind many years ago. I'm from Serbia. We could take this convo to DMs so we don't flood the channel
i think that 2020 is a old dc member ngl
sure
can i restrain people for way out west
I'm unsure, if you have AI get them to do it
im doing it solo
ill probably just get ai because the specefications are really confusing
can my ai use normal guns
I think so
also are my ai able to use gases or stingers
for way out west
are ai just able to use anything available for the achievment
pretty sure yeah
didnt give it to me?
did everything right according to everything ive seen and i didnt get the achievment
Did you equip anything but the revolver?
not a single shot was fired by my ai and i didnt restrain anybody
nope, had it out the entire time
i had my famas equipped at the start of the mission but thats just because its whats default to my character
That shouldn't be an issue, but mods probably don't help
unmodded
famas isn't unmodded
No lockpick or mirror gun?
the aug
i only had the revolver equipped the entire time
all 11 ammunitions went into revolver ammo
Then i dunno, some people have issues getting the achievement for some reason
all the other achievments worked idk this one seems finnecky
like every source ive seen about it says something different about what you can and cant use
Ready or Not
no lockpicking, no utility items, no shields (for you AND bots), and getting over 70% score?
what else can bots not use?
my bots barely did anything except bag the people i killed
def got over 70 percent too, i had a shield equipped but i didnt pull it out
oh, one of my bots pulled out a shield
everything for bots is allowed minus shields, no shields for anyone
thatd be it thanks
can i have a shield and just not equip it for back protection\
why can my bots used fully automatic assault rifles but not a shield lol
yeah, just don't pull it out
because Void is funne
If Void thinks Judge has it rough
Look at the SWAT lead in Bangladesh
That guy had nothing but terrorist attacks
Imagine if entire RoN campaign we fought only the hand
Finally got around to buying the DLC, Dorms was pretty fun, now on to the next
Funny swat game people hello
anyone have any tips for three letter triad?
its the last one I need and I have been stuggling
sorry the sleeper agent achivnement on three letter triad
considering getting some people so we could recreate that one ready or not promo art
Which one?
the most iconic if you do know what i mean, the one with 5 swat members lined up
By the way, question about Judge, do we think he 'gets around' so to speak even though he has kids, is married, 'The Elysian' text messages where they said 'Fuck You' and he got the response of 'No thanks maybe later' had me thinking a lot of things regarding Judge on that response he got alone
YES
I GOT MY FIRST S IN THE FIRST MISSION
NO CASUALTIES AND ALL SUSPECTS AND CIVVIES ARE ALIVE
I mean I ended up losing one of the guys due to a straggler on 23 megabytes per second
but a loss made up for in success!
yo i saw thers a couple ppl in here is anone playingthat i can join rn?
I don't got ALL the levels out yet so..
I only got the Store, the Apartment Block..
fire, i,m not much further and barely know how to play the game
not one of my other friends has a pc that can handle it
would u be down to play?
Did you do the training
yes
I'll do the drug house raid then get back to you
how does one NOT get the -50 unauthorised use of force? Do I just press F once and if they still have weapons I can just unload?
If their gun lowered or they are hesitating you cant shoot
OH FUCK YES
I got the Drug Houses on S rank
first try- only took me 25 minutes since I had to run through it with a fine-toothed comb
Whats the best assault rifle
I like using the hk416 but I wanna know if there is better
lock pick gun
That depends on person preference there's not really a whole lot of difference between a lot of them
lies
omg I finally got the Way Out West achievement after like six tries
I am now a certified cowboy
Im stuck on the post office level
416 is the worst 5.56 rifle because of high recoil, try g36c, sr-16, f90, mcx, for .300 use arn18 and for 7.62x51 ga51 and g3a3
Am I weird for liking the SLR47?
idk why but I just really enjoy the way the gun feels.
It seems to be a little more reliable at taking down armored enemies without being as big and bulky as a full-sized 7.62x51 rifle
It's fine, but you stuck with suppressor only as recoil reduction option
Is there any reason to choose the ASR brake over the SFMB brake?
Why is it even in the game then lol
Holy crap I just tried the G36 for the first time and this gun is great. Why haven't I tried this thing sooner?
Idk, same thing with combat, angled and side grip on rifles, they do nothing on them
I mean those are at least starkly different cosmetic choices
Playing this game traumatized me so so much
Now I piss blood when I think about night clubs
How many body shots for mcx max armor
And whats the best grip for recoil
no attachments best
Always 2 with 5.56 and correct ammo
Vertical or th only
What about 300blk
Same thing, only 7.62x51 can one shot on maps with no extra health
Anything but 5.56, you have to often swap ammo type, unless you dont care about stagger chance and limbs damage, in this case you can just stick with AP ammo
Any other rifle caliber is fine with JHP type on every mission except elephant, sins and leviathan
So i should use 5.56 with ap
Is the Sr-16 anygood
It's 5.56, but it's has lowest recoil after g36c
Which muzzle break is better
Always SFMB
Aright
Thank you
Bout to raid Volls mansion
I heard that level is pretty disturbing
does scores mean anything other than grades?
no
damn
wait yes I forgot it unlocks stuff in the evidence locker
That's basically just the grades
score doesn't really mean anything past getting S, if you want to get more score on a level you just have to get lucky with having more suspects on the map
if you use semi auto it's fine. Been using it throughout my entire playthrough of the game
where did ping slider go, did developers eat it? I keep receiving "failed to find server with acceptible ping" I used to pull slider up 200. what will I do now?
Do school walls and doors have a buffering effect on ammunition above 7.62x39 AP?
?
My character was attacked by a suspect in the elephant level with a gun with 7.62x39 ammunition. The bullet penetrated and hit me, and it felt like there was no buffer…
it's a bullet?
I mean
Bullets can go through walls
^
I know, I mean does the damage decrease after breaking through the wall?
it's a bullet why would it
I dont think it does
All right :(((
This may mean that there is no cover in RON, only walls that block the view...
dude it's a wooden door do you not understand density
some cover big stop bullet, other cover no stop bullet
depends on what its made of
I don't know what the walls and doors in the elephant level are made of😂
Yes, a lot
For suspects only tho
For SWAT, no?
I did not test it, maybe swat ai also deal much less damage through the walls
🤔
wood and dry wall dawg
same stuff as my house
Well, it's probably not surprising at all if there's no buffering damage lol
are either of the compliance tools (pepper spray and taser) actually any good
last i used a taser i hit an guy 4 times and they wouldn't go down
and i tried using pepper spray on a non compliant civ and i had to punch them to get them to go down
Pepper spray is useless, taser is good
is there any way to get AI units to use either the battering ram or 40 mm launchers?
both of them have felt very useless when i was using them
you can swap their loadouts in the loadout screen
in the top left there's a drop down menu
I meant how to I get them to employ them on a mission
I can't see an option in breach for the ram or in deploy for the 40 mm
When youre telling them to breach a room, there are options that tell you what you want them to use
There’s like the
[breach option], [stunning device], clear
ok, so the ram was just me being silly
I still can't see where to find the 40mm though
need to use the "launcher" dialogue
where is it? can't see it in deploy
breach... -> with x... -> launcher and clear
not sure if you can hard deploy an ai launcher
ah, thanks, I see it now
I was hoping to be able to deploy it without ordering a breach
so my friend and i did mindjot with some rather questionable weapons (raider and mp5/10mm) and i headshot a guy with the raider but it's just incap???
how did bro survive a 9x19 ap to the skull
not everyone who get shot in the head dies there have been cases where ppl survive with poles in theor heads and such
If you was too far away or hit through something damage would be too low to kill with 9mm
i did shoot through two panels of glass that probably done it
Yeap
Does anyone have any mods that add new guns with lots of customization options for the gun
Taser is actually fucking OP. But you can’t use it to hit people with armor. Only normal clothing is penned by taser. Most of the time if taser shot hits suspect, suspect is out. Prime S rank tool.
Also useful when using gas, because a lot of enemies on certain levels will cough their way through the gas and get away. When this happens, tase them so they can’t retreat, then they’re forced to suck in the gas and give up.
Taser ignores armor
That would suggest homie above simply missed 4 times in a row
Yeap or he playing multiplayer, where if you not a host taser would be completely broken
Client taser doesn’t work?
I have a friend who plays client and specifically uses taser and never misses.
Doesn’t know to shoot a normal gun though.
It's doesn't line up where you actually aim with it
Been broken for years
No idea, but that what it looks like, left is a host and right is a client #🎬ron-clips-and-media message
anyone can help me how to customize the character face? I searched on youtube, but the option doesn't show up for me
affirm
In multiplayer only
Thank you man
It’s not like a Skyrim editor though. They’re all preset faces for the officers in the game.
How much better is this game than Bodycam? Please don't be bias and give me a neutral answer.
well essentially the only similarity between the two is they involve shooting. Bodycam is a PvP focused FPS from the bodycam style perspective while RoN is a PvE focused tactical shooter. In order to determine which is "better" is entirely subjective to which style of game you prefer (fast paced pvp vs slower pve tactical shooter)
infinitely better because there are no microtransactions, it isnt an asset flip, and theres no cheaters 
clear
if you really want to have an awful pov theres body cam mods for ron as well
true
(i am very neutral btw)
thanks
Fair enough. I mean that also eliminates the hope of someone joining the server to actually play... And the admins of that game are nasty.
sleep
I got refunded because there's no players literally and the ones that are around. Are favored by the disc admins. So i've been considering buying this game for a while. And just wanted so feedback to see comparison and from peoples personal experience of the game.
ron is surprisingly active for a tactical shooter the fact that it still peaks over 10k/day players is crazy to me
the only downside ofc is no pvp as blue mentioned so they are different in that sense
well u can do a very basic PVP downstairs but that doesnt really count
me wallbanging my friends constantly because i have nametags on (its not cheating)
ron hack v hack
add if u flash someone/gas someone or stinger someone they cant react u
they definitely reacted to the taser, just didn't go down after it was over
And yes i did hear about the micro transaction and how the devs have flipped on the consumer. Supposedly you used to earn game rewards within game just by playing. Well now that over with now you gotta pay for everything. And i heard a lot of game users were upset about that. Because when they did that update basically the players progress was erased and they lost completely everything from day one. That's just what i heard i'm not sure. I bought the game and play 25 min in a match and won. And i was confused with the system i wasn't sure if it was bots or real people. I tried to join other servers and literally each server had about 1-3 people most i seen was 5 and i concluded that that game was a lost cause. And got refunded. I really enjoyed the game but no one to play with so lobbies are slow or take forever to load. So i now i started to look at RoN and considering pulling the trigger with the DLC.
i mean it makes the most sense to buy the base game then grab the dlc if you think it's good
Fair enough.
not me i knew i would love it
tbh 40$ bucks ain't too bad and i have a feeling i'll keep this one. Been watching videos on youtube for a while now. And the game looks good and its mechanics.
it's definitely quite fun
if u are uncertain about just get the base and play for an hour and a half u should be able to finish maybe 2 to 3 missions and u can get a feel if u want it and get the DLC
the good part about ron is it can be enjoyed single player so its not dependent on people playing it. coop is peer to peer as well, so no worrying about servers shutting down in the future. if you do public lobbies though chances are youll get goofballs (whether or not you mind that is up to you) however you do have the ability to kick and block people from joining as host (block also prevents you from joining a lobby with said person in it).
that being said, whenever i play with friends we often open the lobby for randoms and we get lots of decent people
nice thing of tactical shooters is that like 80% of the payer base are great ppl
Sounds dandy to me
it's really unfortunate that i personally don't find the singleplayer enjoyable but it's made up for by the multiplayer being very fun
line
except when steam is down 
steam never dies
Except when it does
i mean yeah out of my 250 hours id say 90% of that is from coop with friends
i love tuesday maintenance
Can confirm. Just joined this DC a few days ago and already got nice support and fun training multiplayer sessions
Well, these past few days i been buying a bunch of tactical games. To try something different... So far i have gotten Arma Reforger, Squads, War Of Rights, About to purchase RoN, and i'm also eyeing Six Days In Fallujah and Gates Of Hell
six days is great but it has a few issue rn (mostly with enemy spawns/clipping thru walls from time to time, etc lol), theyre supposed to be addressing them in april though.
I seen that on youtube which is a bummer. But the game is a play through of real life events and that to me is fascinating.. LOL
yeah the documentary style to it is super cool and the proc gen maps are pretty replayable
wait for unrecord
Are you trolling? Cause none of that is true. Plus game is only up to 5 players so 1-3 in a lobby kinda makes sense.
Steam dies for like 3 seconds at a time
hes talking about bodycam, and all of that is true
1 minute 47 seconds s tier good ongas station map in ready or not?
i tried getting lower then that but the game keeps bugging out
Pretty good, with perfect RNG i bet you could get 1:25 or 1:20
After that it just becomes a problem of not being able to walk fast enough
no
Nexus always
Are shotguns a fad?
Any way to make kicking doors more consistent
I picked it to stun enemies but they just die or ignore it
My officer in perfect health taking 3-4 kicks really takes away the element of surprise
Don't have injured legs
?
beanbag is less lethal
If you always wanna be sure it's one kick, lockpick before kicking
Metal doors needs more kicks then wooden
I mean normal shotgun
Buck shot incaps in 4 pellets lmao
Don't think you're just going to injure someone if you shoot center mass
Unless they have body armor
even body armor, getting shot center mass by a shotgun indoors is gonna be a rough ride for you for life
They all die
I'm knee deep in suspects blood
They didn't teach that in the academy
breach shotgun best
Once again the best option it seems is peak and swing
Ohhhhh. I don’t know how I missed that when I was reading the conversation.
Way Out West achievement is definitely broken. Did "Rust belt" 3 times with empty bean bag and 357 mag, did not use melee arrested only civilians, used no mirrorgun shield or even lockpick. Only opening door shooting with 357 and reporting. 3 times and no achievement.
I believe I’ve seen people complain about this before. I haven’t tried it myself so I don’t know the parameters exactly but I’ve seen people say that achievement is very picky about the actions you take.
Maybe reporting counts against the achievement and only AI officers can do that?
Beanbag is less lethal. Headshot with beanbag shotgun = die.
i prefer the taser cause of this
immune
You used something that not allowed or did not get at least C grade
Irl they are even more lethal than in game lool
I feel like after so many shots it should make suspects unconscious.
Or even dead
How many bombs are on Elephant, and how long do you usually have to defuse before it goes off?
2 and you have 10 minutes
why is valley of the dolls s rank so difficult? the guards just keep shooting the civillians or themselves, these guys do not watch their line of fire at all
Consider the following: Neither do most RoN players
That’s why we have the new “lose points on friendly fire” thing lol
Not the mod spitting truth.
I struggled with Elephant, they kept executing hostages when they heard fires being shot
I can’t get passed Sinuous Trail for S Rank duos. Also haven’t tried in a very long time 🤷♂️
Does anybody know why my fallen officer watch’s textures are broken, where the watch face is supposed to be it’s just checkers
Right
no fucking way... finally got S rank on valley of the dolls (or so I thought). 29/30 evidence
walked around the entire map for 50 minutes and I didn't find anything, nor did search and secure
rip
that was like the smoothest run I've ever had too. no injuries on any officer somehow
and it all screwed up probably because some evidence bugged out somewhere
If it helps, you can go into settings and turn on highlighting for weapons
Does 5.56 or .300blk guns do more damage?
.300 deal more damage, but both need 2 body shots to incap suspects
Alright
only on one mission 5.56 AP need 3 body shot
Because when I look at guns being ranked I see MCX lower
Byy it I want it damage terms
*But I want it in damage terms
5.56 < .300blk/7.62x39 < 7.62x51
Rust belt, you can use any guns since none of them have body armors nor extra health.
I saw somebody mention Valley Of The Dolls. That just reminded me of a previous run where a maid wound up standing right in front of one of the kid-toucher's guards right as he noticed me. That day, I learned that hostages can die just by being oblivious.
You have 2 mins to find those guys because they start shooting and about 10 for the bombs
It's in the same % off as the last winter sale.
You just need to wait more if you want to buy it at even lower price.
https://steamdb.info/app/1144200/
Ok thanks
Anyway to figure out where I might have left some people? 
I swear I've just been going in circles on the hospital mission
Did you let your team search and secure?
Yeah we arrested and killed everyone my only guess is that I missed a room somewhere
Or the game is bugged 
Oh ok
Could be
It sucks when there's a civi somewhere in cuffed in some corner
Did you check all bathrooms?
Ground floor are 2 an first floor where the bomb is
is there a gun that doesnt kill so i can shoot important people if they shoot at me?
Yes there is the bean bag shotgun f.e.
You can incapacitate them
It still counts
I find it easier to equip every one with non lethal weapons so that no one is accidentally shot
But both ways work
Alr, thanks
So i bought the game and played it and it is amazing and the overall experience way better than the bodycam game @lone cloud very please with this purchase
I swear when you could change your voice there was one named Coughlin but i cannot remember
can i skip missions in RON
in campaign no but you still continue with low grade
not if you’re doing commander, you can play whichever missions you want in quickplay or multiplayer though
^^^
i haven’t gotten past this mission at all and i doubt i ever will
which mission?
it’s just killing my motivation to play.
i don’t know the names but it’s the fourth mission. with the meth labs
twisted nerve?
yes
I'd recommend going with ngv and then taking it really slowly, occassionally a shotgun works wonders in that map but struggles in the caves, send your friendly's in first, clear under beds for enemies also
twisted nerve is one i used to struggle on, ambience definitely makes it nerve wrecking
i can take out the enemies easy. i just hate having to find stuff in random places. “locate the meth storage” was near impossible since there wasn’t even any youtube videos that were updated
you just need to clear the building fully, if you hold tab you can see the map layout in the tablet
last time i cleared everyone and done every challenge but the meth storage. over an hour wasted since i can’t save progress
theres a meth storage, money you can report, and a minor that are all soft evidence
yeah i did all that cept the storage
yeah
couldn’t find it at all
meth storage and money are on the 2nd floor of the main house across from each other
right next to the kids room
i’ll try it again in a couple minutes
it's in like a freezer room with those freezer tarp thingy's covering it
liked plastic striped curtain
i feel like if you pay attention to the enviornment it's pretty obvious what the meth storage is
yep
idk man i done atleast 5 laps of the whole map. couldn’t find it for anything
there's like dozens of baggies lined up on shelves
I think you just didn't notice it was there
cause it's in a bathroom with curtains as a door
twisted nerve is definitely a weird difficulty spike tbf
for me it was the ambience that made it worse
the map is pretty huge compared to 4u and crypto miner
yeah, it used to be so hard with ai's wall banging you but they fixed it
used to be bigger
there was a laundromat and street
its not too bad now, i do it as a 10 minute or so run through and use it to warm up sometimes
I love the hotel mission forgot the name
sins of the father?
yeah
thats my least favorite LOL
sins of the father is definitely not great imo
only one i struggled with lowkey
wait no, it's the other one
the aesthetic makes the layout confusing
Ides of march
I missed the alpha hotel used be a cool map
ahh thats apartments lol
i don't think i can be convinced to play greased palms at all
i love ides, also one of the quicker ones
greased palms is so easy imo, with a good route and a taser i can do it in 17 or so minutes
me and my friend cleared it after like 9 attempts and collectively agreed this was the worst map in the game
yeah I love the characters, prosthetic legs, custom ar's, cool aesthetics
definitely!! such cool details in ides
oh i just meant the layout of ides
layout definitely makes it hard
sins of the father is the only mission i struggle w/
Layout makes it hard, I think the only time I struggle is long range shots cause of the suppressive fire outside the warehouse where the trucks and vans are
rule of thumb for me is go in a spiral around such a layout until you get to the middle
carriers of the vine, neon tomb, relapse and port hokan were all easier than greased palms
all very easy imo
Greased palms made me wanna die
i struggled with greased palms using a beanbag the first time i went through
like legit greased palms took us the most attempts by far
i think the next most was valley of the dolls
S on greased palms took me 3 tries, we struggled to arrest the fisa adams fella
3 tries after playing the map like 2000 times 🤣
valley of the dolls is one of my favorites just because of how annoying it is
Cod skins be like
I walked out into the garden and I got headshot by a women ontop of the tower structure
no im thinking of the carriers of the vine mb
mindjot data center also took a few tries and our lethal attempts never make it past b rank
how the fuck do you play that map without getting shot low to high or vice versa 
definitely not a fun one when it comes to those server rooms
the spider imo one of the easiest
i don't think i've ever gotten hit from the server room into the 2nd floor but it's still annoying having to deal with it
yeah spider is really not that hard
i love doing true solo on the spider, its so fun and quick
the actual safe injection clinic is so small you can probably fill it all with cs gas simultaneously if you tried really hard
honestly i dont know how people use cs gas and flashes
they just slow me down and feel unnecessary
better than ego peaking a corner and getting randomly dropped by john wick ai
i dont even peak my corners LOL
Greased palms gotta be my least favorite cause of how much of a maze it can be, it took me like 30 minutes to find the last civ and he was in the far right corner halfway glitched in a mail truck
I've found that the "search and secure" function is pretty helpful
Ah
basically, after you cuff every suspect (unsure if you need to grab all guns), you can get your AI to sweep up all civillians on the map
UNLESS, you've left wedges around
then the AI often just fails to work
I've been struggling with s rank on relapse, my ai keep bugging and and getting blown away by suspects that they're staring at
it's strange that I suddenly have to babysit my ai
I'm astounded that I'm strugglign more with relapse than 3 letter triad S rank
with relapse just have them fall in, most of the time youll have to do most the work as the ai are iffy on it imo
it seems to feel that way, I'm just not big on the idea of having myself be the bullet sponge for every single suspect
I'm sure I'll get it eventually, relapse and port are the only two non-dlc missions I'm missing s rank on
I'm so close!
i play it like that, or true solo (although true solo is ass on relapse because you cant search and secure afterwards if you miss anything) and the only place you really have to be careful for is the sky bridge
port is SUPER easy to S rank
good
worst mission so far has been greased palms followed by carriers of the vine then sins of the father
sins of the father is literally the worst mission imo
While I'd agree it's tough, I found that there was more than enough of them that were flashable on entry or C2 prone that I didn't actually have to get in firefights with many of them
i dont use flash or c2 at all
vs something like greased palms packing area/fisa area or carriers of the vine garden/chainlink fence areas where you just get cheese grated
AI sees you but you don't see them a lot
my loadout is literally 3 beanbag ammo, a lockpick gun, and the rest is tasers
oh hell nah
hell yes brother
why the tazer
i love tasers
I would love to hear why
tasers ignore armour
I've found them to be inconsistent, but I'm hoping you'll tell me why I suck with them
Never had a taser fail, and I’ve only seen it caused by desync on multiplayer
yeah, multiplayer its not a good choice if you arent the host
afff i messed mine up when i do port cause i always wanna do everything myself rather than rely on ai
i always lockpick everything myself and whatnot so i failed the achievement
do tasers garuntee a surrender on landing?
They do the most morale damage(?) when they do (last I checked which was long ago)
pretty sure this is still true, not guaranteed but MUCH faster than the beanbag
plus you can double tap if you whiff I'd assume
I’ve decided to tase people more than once because it seems like they aren’t going to give up, but they might if I just was super dedicated to waiting and seeing
also, its so quiet and the ai are much more subdued when using taser vs beanbag in terms of their stress as they arent half as aggressive most of the time
The taser does have a range also, its range is more forgiving than in real life but it’s a limit nonetheless. Outside the range nothing will happen
How many meters would you say?
20m
20!
alright, I'll have to give them a go then
I've gotta wonder if the port achievement is like way out west
where you can jsut command a firing squad and do nothing
I found out after hours of failed attempts
it is
interesting
I thought c2 had the most morale damage
personally i find it harder to use the ai,, theyre just SO slow it gets agonisingly boring
I've been doing s ranks to train
for my "hermit" run
it feels insane to run a mission with 7.62x51 after grinding with beanbag shotgun
I wish incapacitation had lower morale damage
hermit was easy with taser and some good team traits, its not too hard honestly if you just do S ranks for everything
as far as I'm aware, you can also just repeat the first mission for morale
Just get a moral officer
Yes, but it's easier just arrest few suspects to offset stress gain
2 Negotiators would be much better #🎬ron-clips-and-media message
negotiators are only good early game as it only counts for the first shot and not those drawn out gun fights
imo intimidator is better
That's a lot of luck
You confusing it with intimidator
intimidator is being seen, negotiator is compliance at the first yell?
insane...
Yes, negotiator forces suspect to surrender, even if he actively shooting at you, while intimidator increase hesitation chance if suspect not alerted yet
that's true I guess
I've died 3 times on my campaign run
twice on valley of the dolls (for being stupid), and once on sins of the father (also for being stupid)
I'm pretty confident I could do the hermit if I don't rush/play sloppy
it doesnt force them to comply its only first yell unless they changed it—2 negotiators make it a 50% chance on first yell
intimidator is swat ai and player being seen damages suspect and ai morale w/the effect stacking twice if you have 2, giving it a 100%
it's the cheese grater room by the party, they shoot through the blinds
I've learned that you can use alt to peak out the windows from the top floor and kill security gaurds at the party
Don't you get unauthorised use of force for that
and then just enter the cheese grater room from the interior
It's does force them surrender from first yell for each suspect and it's always been like this, so with 2 negotiators half of the map will surrender or more if you lucky
Intimidator has nothing to do with morale damage
yep, but if I'm doing hermit I don't care
it's that or risk getting nearly blown away
it's a -50 points
the following suspects are alert and don't incurr more point loss i think
one tap to incap with 7.62x51
ive never heard this,, every guide and officer trait explanation always says that it affects suspect and civ morale
I died 5 times on sin trail and for the 6th time I tried the game crashed 💔
can’t play RON. getting an error on startup💔 typical
And that what in game description says, but it's actually wrong, this what 2x intimidators do #🎬ron-clips-and-media message
this looks like low morale to me ??
Nope, they are in hesitate loop, nothing to do with morale at all
Why does my PC overheat more after the Build 71134 update
More demand or just overall more dirt in your rig
awesome
I finished the game in Ironman mode but didn't get the achievement*
Replay port hokan and get at least C grade
danm, i get e
a civ lit run in front of my when a suspect is shot me
and both die
Damn, listening to the TOC femboy ||after reporting the women in the container|| breaks my heart.
bad mod... 💔
what’s the point of melee? i tried doing this to a guy rushing to me with a knife but it didn’f appear to be working
its for whacking people who dont comply
Yep
Damn, why are there some enemies that have assault rifles without any kind of plate carrier or equipment to store the magazines and reload?
I understand the enemies with pistols and shotguns, but there are some that have ak or AR15 without any kind of space to reload and still do it
They keep it in their pockets
They keep it in their underwear
Maan it's always annoying when I'm playing a map with a hvt and they're also an armed suspect
Listen I don't care if you're a fed if you shoot me with that thing you're gonna be full of .300 blackout
just incapacitate
Do yall use canted sights? Or aiming down usually I find myself using canted a lot more often in CQB just me or?
one tap with 7.62x51 to the chest
Canted is supposed to be used in cqb yes
you get the full 500 points for incap suspects
You get more of your screen to work with and any of the side rail mounts are good enough for landing shots on target
I don't have the trigger discipline to fire 1 or 2 shots
Skill issue on my end
if you use a gun that normally only needs 1 shot, it'll be easy
if you're using a tiny caliber, it's much more annoying
big calibers remove guesswork
I will literally triple tap people with 7.62 too
Oh well.
Question: I equipped laser sights on my primary but I don't see the actual red dot on screen. Is there a toggle key for it? I do see the red laser trails from my teammates (non-AI).
wait, 7.62x51?
Yes
I don't know what other 7.62xwhatever calibers are in the game if any
There is, and there is also two types of lasers.
IR and VIS.
There's x39 on the SLR 47
I really only use 7.62x51 or 5.56x45
IR will only be visisble with NVGs.
Do you use lasers with it too?
Yeah I'm not using IR. Was told precisely that.
Then check your settings, there's a keybind to toggle it.
I don't really run lasers tbh
Flashlight is good enough for people in your face
Bright inner ring = shoot there
Oh I run both lol
Flashlight is more fun 🔦
actually i do run a laser on my pistol in case i bring a shield
Anyone know if the hostage killings are random or times in Elephant? If timed then how long do I have before I lose someone?
2 minutes is the max I believe
Oh crap
2 minutes and random time between 10-20 seconds
So basically unless you speedrun it you can't guarantee saving all civilians?
You can save them all just gotta be fast af
Time to wear stab armour i guess
I mean you can finish the map with heavy armor too
Stab vest does fuck all for movement
Oh wow a lil acceleration buff that's barely noticeable
Ain’t wrong there
Ah
I always use heavy cause movement in Ron is slow no matter what
Fair, either way I'm gonna need that since the amount of times I'm gonna get jumpscared and shredded to bits via lead is gonna be insane
4 security guards in ONE CORNER
HOW
Full ceramic heavy man. It's hard to die with that
s rank elephant is some element of rng
in my case for s ranking there was a lot more rng
i apprehended a suspect in the library but as i was cuffing him the last suspect appeared around a corner and started blasting my ass
somehow i lived to give him a few beanbags and arrest him too
I mean like random suspect, out of nowhere
Then that is rare
I belive on Neon tomb last terrorist can also do that but haven't seen any clips of it in a very long time
It happened in the hospital
Only main suspects have that behavior at least on those maps to my knowledge
well that guy wasnt one
then idk
They can still end their own lives on neon and hospital and elephant as far as I know, but it is much rarer than before
Pepperidge farm remembers when Brixley did it almost immediately when seeing a player
Back when he had a white shirt

oh alr, too bad I only got the bodycam footage tho
from my friend
cuz my dumb ass had shadow play turned off
Happens to the best of us
You can still play the old versions silly
Steam still lets you download the versions you have access to
How do you think I extracted so many models for homeland
check NExus mods
Me with a 1tb drive full of just ron builds 
Some of the old ones with 2 copies of each pak is crazy
Not sure if that was a steam issue or if it was originally like that
Why was RoN 90gbs at one point
good ol 90GB ron and everyone asked why it's so big
The Adam version I was using had two copies of each pak, so a lot of files were duplicated so file size was very redundant
But yeah, more maps, less filsixe optimization
Like I said might be a steam depot issue
I don’t recall the original version when it was new
What was Adam? April 2023?
Oh you mean the _0_P files?
Yeah
Using fmodel shows that a lot of files exist from both paks per pak
Odd
It may just be a steam depot issue
I had the first home invasion build act goofy. Had missing objectives then reinstalled it and worked fine.
Idk tho
HI, what are the conditions for hanged man?
im only using taser and blashbangs, but using my ai that has everything (guns, c2, utilities)
do i need a score higher than a c?
whats the best loadout in your opinion?
Yes
Man asked in two channels
yep
Light armour, sr16, 3 rifle mags, 10 flash bangs
Wait why is there no bank heist map
I can't arrest gerard scott alive
we don't know:((
Now I want a bank heist map
How do I find the last people?
I’ve been on this mission for an hour and can’t find them. I’m thinking about refunding as I didn’t know the game was this slow paced that it takes over an hour for one mission.
Order your Team search and secure
finally got S rank on valley of the dolls. took me like 30 minutes to find the last civillian... the map clearing isnt hard but holy shit there is so much side stuff
How do I do that?
Controller or mouse/keyboard?
Keyboard
You klick your middle mouse Button, for the commands, point on the floor and then it should be the last command? 8 I think? I am not in game atm
It's called search and secure
Yeah mhn then you seem to miss a soft objective
Im down to find the civilians and suspects
I can’t find them after checking every room multiple times
you can only search and secure when ALL of the suspects are neutralized. if you want to check this, hold "tab" and then look whether Bring Order to Chaos is complete
So I’m just gonna have to reset then
so if you want to find all the people... just walk around the map and find them
Sometimes I need to try a few times to get the search and secure option as well
Yeah I’ve walked the whole map like 7 times now
And it takes a while
I started about an hour and a half ago
Probably some dude in a hidden corner. I had that as well... So annoying
I’m prolly just gonna get off for the day as this has already given me enough of a headache
Yeah better just start again.
This happens too often
I had it only a couple of times but sometimes I just didn't saw them because they where on their knees behind a crate or something 😂
Usually my team found them eventually because I told them. To search the area
I can’t even find the last suspect/s
Maybe it bugged out
A break usually is not a bad idea! Helps me sometimes to accomplish the mission next time
anyone got tips for the sins of father map(?) the hotel where you can access it from the roof. If I'm not caught by a trap, I'm caught by an enemy I had no idea about. I have been wedging doors and using gas in the rooms. I feel like its just very dark and open. Lots of hallways too
Send one team forward and the other one cover you
Like, have red team breach while blue team falls in behind me covering me?
During valley of the dolls, ik you're supposed to secure the guys computer, but it also shows that I can secure that burning pile of items out on his balcony, but whenever I secure that, I can't secure the laptop. Did I maybe secure the wrong thing?
Yeah!
And I like always throwing stuff in the rooms because likely there's one armed guy in there
What do you mean throwing stuff? Flash and gas?
Yeah whatever you use
But yeah the hotel is hard, I am still stuck on a D there as well
Ahh ok, see I ended up getting to this lobby area. One guy on the stairs, one guy with a hostage deep left. I threw a gas towards the guy with the hostage since the one on the stairs already put his hands up. Cleared the room, and I was about to wedge the double doors, an armed guy turns the corner. Managed to neutralize him and wedge the door. Then I went to restrain the guy with the hostage and got shot in the back from god knows where
I hope this isnt another greased palms type mission for me lol
Yeeeah they seems to be everywhere
Try to send your teams covering all entrances or corners before you try to cuff someone or wedge doors
Thing is there are sometimes like 5 doors and the enemies just bearge through
yeahh, i kind of wish i could command individual members. have delta hold a corner, while i have bravo pie a deadspace or something. and have alpha and charlie do whatever i need them to do
yeah the enemies seem a lot harder on this map
Can't you point at them and make them move to over there?
i know i can use my scroll wheel to select blue, red, or gold but im not sure about anything else
Try to point at a team member and use the scroll wheel. And then I think you can made them move or hold I think
I just witnessed one of my ai officers kill a hostage
I'll try it when I'm back on. Decided to hop on something else since I just got done with rust belt after having a little trouble with it
Yeah
I should go to sleep because I have a long day at work tomorrow but I am not tiiiired
Oh no
This isn't the first time it's happened either
They never go for headshots when a hostage has been taken
Yeaaah
I try but I did shot a hostage as well one time
Yeah it's not my favorite map... I don't know how I manage it to get it done at least once
It's so cathartic when you see the phrase "+500 (Bring Order To Chaos)" pop up
Now on to Three Letter Triad
Honest I've really loved these DLCs, I do hope we see either more content or a sequel down the line
In my experience they also have to be handcuffed
dead or not
I just wish search and secure was the default
Guys in vally of the dolls, I have been searching the map for 30 minutes for the last enemy, because it still says bring order to chaos, yet I haven't found them yet, I went through the same map top to bottom many times, is this a bug?!
Can someone help me? I’ve been on voll house for 2 hours and can’t find the last people
Same thing happening too me rn 💔
I’m gonna have to go to multiplayer or sum to get someone to help me
I’ve been up and down this map so many times
Have you not gone down into the basement?
I already finished the mission nvm
Bro it’s because I didn’t see the basement
Wild. I thought that gate wasn’t something you could go past
lol
I finished the mission
That's why you always check
Crazy stuff
I went in guns blazing into the basement and ended up killing a civilian but it’s okay because I finished the mission lol
I'm starting elephant rn
Isn't that the controversial one
yes
well, most of the missions are but, yknow.
Same bro same
yup! its a hard one to get a good rank on though
Remember, be fast, be efficient, dont' worry about civvies until you've taken out all the shooters
I def can’t let my self kill civs on this one
Thanks for the tip
Alright well it’s my time, boys. I’ll see you after this interesting experience
Damn I got an F on elephant because I didn't go fast enough and 8 hostages died
nvm i redid and got c
yuuup.. gotta go really fast
U got about 3 min till the shooters start executing ppl so good to rush everyone before then
not have*
only secure civs and bring orden to caos
maybe
bruh i cannot find this missing gun
there it is
Finally, S rank on sinuous trail
Wasn't there an elementary school one, or did I confuse it with Elephant?
Yeah, a while ago announced a mod for a map where the shooting did occur in a high school
Jesus
idk what happen to the mod and map
just remenber see a post in the subreddit
and some gameplays
It got released for Home invasion I think but Dark Waters rendered it out of date so now it's hidden on nexusmods don't know if the Author actually has any plans to update it. Map was called Maple Valley Highschool though.
Where do I get more mods? The in game mod browser only has 47 mods available
Those mods should be up to date, the other option is Nexus #❓modding-faq
So there are only 47 mods as of right now?
Even mods I had yesterday aren’t showing anymore
On Modio, yes, on Nexus, many more. You'll have to sort through em yourself to make sure they're up to date
Idk how it went down from 100+ the other day 😭
Old mods that crash your game were causing too many problems, that is why
So they must have just done a clearing
Because even the top mods on there that I see all over YouTube and stuff got taken off.
I’ll figure out nexus or wtv
The Community & Modio team has been working on removing out of date mods (as well as unauthorized uploads and suspicious mods.) The 47 that remain are safe and up to date.
So nexus is risky because they could have harmful mods?
I guess I’ll just stick to my limited selection on modio lol
No, they have their own anti-virus and moderation
Modio just enables Void to have their own moderation
I see
It was at something like 960+ 
Is there an estimate of when the next update will come out?
earliest maybe May or June latest July or Auguest
there's something happening next month
from the cyptic message from: 34 15 54 45
33 35 34 45 23
24 45
13 35 33 15 44
which translates to: "Next Month it comes."
or could refrence something else 🤔
idk where to drop this but one of my guys are stuck on 'restrain' status when theres no one to restain bruh
ron'd
You might have to restart if he is fully stuck. The ai is uuuh. Not quite perfect
last mission spoiler
|| the hell's FISA got to do with women in the container? I smell something fishy ||
silksong. trust.
Yes
Risking their lives for sake of stats
;;
fun fact ||you can order your teammates to open the door||
doesnt do much but hey, you can
give em some 02, would ya
hey does anyone know how to fix a problem ive been having. My primary disappears every time i switch to another item
delete pakchunk1 located in ready or not/readyornot/content/paks
make sure you remove it from the recycle bin as well
then run the game
it should reset the uhh the animations
okay thanks
aight 👍🏻
how do i get to the file location
idk
ok ill figure it out
its gonna work, trust
i found it
huh
ok
any pakchunk named pakchunkxx-Windows is a base game pak
anything not named that is a mod
if you have deleted any of them be sure to verify integrity of game files with steam
yeah i dont ahve any mods
okay thanks
what if i just deleted them all and then verify the files
it would basically be just redownloading the game but yeah that would work
but there would be no need to
did you see his issue
its very hard to solve something like that