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fervent terrace
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Top tier

limber escarp
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you're lame

narrow geode
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Said no one

vocal osprey
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they getting updates?

fervent terrace
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Sometimes new dlcs

fallow osprey
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I like both DLC's

vocal osprey
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why are the reviews rated mixed for home invasion??

narrow geode
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Because its lame

stone bay
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i dont even see any problems

vocal osprey
fervent terrace
twilit mulch
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+1

vocal osprey
narrow geode
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Second one better

stone bay
civic sail
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first one better

narrow geode
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Lies

fervent terrace
fervent terrace
narrow geode
fervent terrace
civic sail
vocal osprey
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ty

fervent terrace
vocal osprey
alpine void
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well Home invasion has some really fun moments and and dark watter has the best ambience in the whole game

fervent terrace
fervent terrace
alpine void
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which one since i spoke about both dlc

opaque zealot
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three letter triad is the one map thats a pain atfirst but grows on you as you replay it

fervent terrace
civic sail
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I like home invasions because it's less counter terrorism

alpine void
alpine void
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at first i thought i was gonna get lost but then i realized the map isnt as complicated as it looks

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my least favourite map is greased palms

fervent terrace
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Narcos has a better theme and concept you are literally clearing an entire neighborhood

alpine void
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yep and they can see u but u cant see them plus the AI alwasy kills the FISA agent

alpine void
fervent terrace
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I really like the sr-16 its such an awesome gun

alpine void
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i am afraid i dont really memorise guns too much

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oh that one its fun but i like some hard hitting guns or the one used by seals

royal iris
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Have the Devs said anything about letting us rebind RShift and Left mouse

Anyone heard anything about being able to rebind Left mouse and Right shift I've have had to switch to a controler for this game

alpine void
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huh?

royal iris
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My left mouse won't rebind

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Nor will Right Shift

alpine void
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do u mean left click and what do u want on those

royal iris
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Hard coded they say

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LEft mouse move forward Shift fire gun

civic sail
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what

alpine void
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what do u mean by left mouse second why is right shift fire?

royal iris
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Muscle memory I'm 54 playing FOS that since 486 sx Domm Demo

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FPS

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Doom Demo

alpine void
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i am still half confused and i am not sure why u wouldnt want to change to using a mouse like modern games since its easier and requires less brain power and is more intuitive

royal iris
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Muscle memory Reflex

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To many years gone by doing FPS that way

alpine void
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look muscle memory can be changed it would also be helpful for you since it will line up with how ppl use a keyboard for anything

royal iris
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I mean I made LvL 50 in GZW doing things that way

alpine void
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there are just some many buttons and things to fo it would be a pain to not play how it was set up

royal iris
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And GZW AI is insane

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I'll just switch to a controler

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Well please do let me know if ya here anything

alpine void
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i will i am more just confused that u want to play like that

sterile dagger
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if you were around for doom and quake's heyday you'd get it

sterile dagger
royal iris
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Right handed

sterile dagger
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interesting, it was always rmb for forward, lmb for fire, w for jump for anyone I knew growing up

royal iris
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I heard it is a technical issue that keeps full rebind from happening

sterile dagger
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I got curious and tried rebinding it your way, lmb works for forward but there is definitely some shenanigans with lmb for fire in ready or not

royal iris
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Right mouse is jump for me

limber escarp
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what

royal iris
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Yea fire while moving forward

sterile dagger
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yep

royal iris
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? Is back

sterile dagger
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did you use mouse back in doom btw?

royal iris
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< strafe left

sterile dagger
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doom was always keyboard only for me

royal iris
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strafe right

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;ads

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We're all different

sterile dagger
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indeed. and back in the day there was no consensus solution like we have today

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I eventually capitulated and re-programmed myself to w for forward

royal iris
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I got my original key binds off the back of the Doom Demo box

sterile dagger
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shit quake did not even have mouselooking enabled by default

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still remember pulling up the console and entering +mlook every time we played quake in school

royal iris
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I started PC gaming with a 486sx

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Before the mathco processor

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LoL

sterile dagger
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yeah 486 were just about going out of fashion for the fancy new pentiums when I was getting into it

royal iris
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7 Cites of Gold was my 1st game

short ice
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man ready or not european community is really something isn't it, i just joined a random lobby and i got kicked for simply saying "hello" through the mic lmfao

wispy aurora
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Does anyone know how to fix the voice bug? I chose a difference voice for my character but I can only hear it when I'm the host of the match. Every time I enter a match with another person as host I hear the standard voice. It's kinda frustrating

limber escarp
wispy aurora
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Yeah, shame

forest fiber
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Good day guys I need some help please. I have played the game for about 6 hours previously had to step away for some time and a month later when I tried to open up the game it is completely busted. I have tried opening with DX12 and DX 11, safe mode uninstalled an reinstalled cleared saved files I believe and still the issue continues. (Note I do not have any mods installed i never even tried)

So what is happening is this. I open the game see the first to title screens and as soon as my cursor changes from the default white to the red ingame cursor the game locks up I can hear the audio but there is no responses what so ever I don't see the characters on screen only very faintly can I see The DLC icons in the top right otherwise its black screen. Any help would be appreciated as I would love to continue playing.

limber escarp
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Sometimes re-installing doesnt fully fix it, some files are still backed up by default

forest fiber
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Already verified as well will check drivers also but believe they are up to date

limber escarp
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NVIDIA releases updates all the time and sometimes you just have to check it manually unfortunately

coarse osprey
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you can also try reverting to an older nvidia driver if the newest one doesn't help resolve the issue

limber escarp
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^

coarse osprey
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most likely a clean reinstall will fix this

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can also take a risk of going to the registry and pretty much make the PC forget RoN was even installed so it would be a real reinstall, but I suggest avoiding it

forest fiber
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running an AMD card Just checked everything is updated

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I am still quite inexperienced so probably would have avoided as well thanks smidog

coarse osprey
forest fiber
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Radeon RX series if I am not mistaken

coarse osprey
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can try running the game as an admin (right click on the exe, properties, run as an admin) and compatibility to some other OS

forest fiber
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I have tried running with comp to windows 7 and 8 nothing unfortunately as well as admin, I am at my wits end and really enjoyed it

sterile dagger
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reverting to older gpu drivers or reinstalling are your best bets for sure

coarse osprey
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only reverting the drivers can be a good option now

forest fiber
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Thanks a lot guys I'll have a go at it again

mint falcon
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is there a new achievement for doing all the missions on hard?

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no? i'll do it anyway, ironman + hard

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  • only using a minigun
mint falcon
formal valley
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how many bombs spawn in elephant usually and where to look for them?

viral lark
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I have my in game frame limit set to 60 and my nvidia frame limit set to 60 as well yet I am capped at 30 fps in game any fixes?

civic sail
frosty crow
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Is twisted nerve fixed yet?

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i wanna finish out my S ranks

amber dock
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Nope

frosty crow
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Bruh

sterile dagger
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is an F grade considered a passing grade for ironman achievement purposes?

frosty crow
sterile dagger
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doesn't appear so, and also next mission unlocked so I guess I'm good?

sterile dagger
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elephant went sideways

frosty crow
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elephant always go sideways

calm cloak
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Is the Patrol Officer uniforms out on Mod.io?

frosty crow
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BRO i just watched one of the fake doctors on relapse shoot himself

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I did not know they did that on that map what the hell

frosty crow
calm cloak
serene perch
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is the update supposed to be 60gb? cause the update said it was 3gb now its 60 šŸ’€

twilit mulch
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3,8 GB

serene perch
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apparently its patching 60gb nvm its not 60gb lol

faint lynx
stone bay
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what was the patching even about? i had to wait 30 mins just so i could get back to s ranking

compact garden
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any extra tips on Hide and Seek mission to get S rank?

stone bay
civic sail
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yeah nothing too interesting

compact garden
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chat.. i did it, S rank on Hide and Seek

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now its time for my 12 attempt on the hospital may lord h ave mercy on my soul

uneven hazel
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Are there any missions where battle rifles are actually worth using?

jolly verge
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Battle rifles? You mean 7.62x51 guns?

uneven hazel
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Yeah like the M14 and such.

jolly verge
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On any map where suspects have default health, so it's can oneshot them

uneven hazel
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Most combat so far seems to be largely CQC so I'm not sure where long range scoped rifles will come into play.

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(I've only gotten through Elephant so far so maybe that will change?)

jolly verge
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The only map where optic might be useful is port hokan

tired jungle
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If only the zoom worked

golden umbra
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does finishing missions on multiplayer mark the mission on singleplayer as completed too or you get different ratings based on singleplayer or multiplayer?

wispy ember
vague isle
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FINALLY COMPLETED ELEPHANT

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JESUS I GOT AN F LOL

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Worth it anyway since like tf where is the shooters at

uneven hazel
vague isle
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kinda hard if the bombs are ticking

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my perfectionist self keeps on checking every corner that i just checked

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also is it just me, or do i click suspects ( with guns )

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if they dont comply

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like they back away

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like 9/10 theyll attack like i learned my lesson the hard way

uneven hazel
vague isle
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kinda sucks if the civs run

uneven hazel
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Then you just walk around the building securing all the civvies.

vague isle
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i did that

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the next thing i know the shooter walked in midway when i was cuffing

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team did nothing

uneven hazel
vague isle
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Aight, but im not doing that wretched mission again

uneven hazel
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On elephant you should just ignore civvies until after you have "restore order to chaos" complete.

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There are four shooters.

vague isle
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Four?

uneven hazel
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Yes, four.

vague isle
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i thought it was three, since i couldnt find the last one.

uneven hazel
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No it's four.

vague isle
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Yikes, no wonder why i kept on failing it :/

uneven hazel
vague isle
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so run and gun?

uneven hazel
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Yeah. Don't waste time handcuffing civvies. You can take care of them later.

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When you find a bomb, just remember where it is and come back to it later.

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The bombs have a few set locations they can spawn and there always two of them. You can find maps or steam guides that show the bomb locations.

vague isle
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Question, can the civs stop surrendering and just run?

uneven hazel
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ie for me last time I played the bombs were in the IT room and the lunch room.

vague isle
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like most civs do if left unattended?

uneven hazel
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Either way they shouldn't be a problem on Elephant.

vague isle
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Aight.

uneven hazel
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There is a set amount of time before the shooters start killing civvies.

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So just be quick and neutralize them before they start doing that.

vague isle
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How long?

uneven hazel
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I'm not sure

vague isle
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From what i can tell, since bombs detonate in 11 mins..

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theyll start clicking civs around 6 mins max from what i can tell

jolly verge
vague isle
uneven hazel
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Yeah, that's why you can't waste any time on that level.

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You need to be MOVING.

vague isle
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Sad, i spent 2 minutes on the 1st level searching bombs

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took down 2 during my search

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the other 2 went exploring ( killing cuffed civs )

uneven hazel
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Yeah as I said, you can worry about bombs after you've neutralized the threats.

vague isle
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I underestimated the time of 11 minutes

uneven hazel
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The bombs beep pretty loud and as I said there are maps that show you where they can be.

vague isle
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Question, in rust belt is there a underground section?

uneven hazel
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Most of the mission is underground.

vague isle
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Well good thing i secured the civs first

uneven hazel
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There only like two or three gunmen on the surface.

vague isle
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NOOOO

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THE GUN I WAS TRYNA SECURE NOCLIPPED

uneven hazel
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The guy in the house is kind of a threat tho because he often has a shotgun and the civvies near him are kinda stupid so they might get caught in crossfire even if you don't do anything.

vague isle
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what house?

uneven hazel
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The big house in the back of the map

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That's where the tunnel entrance is.

vague isle
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the guy with the shotgun?

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hes nothing but swiss cheese now.

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Guy couldnt react before he saw one shotgun, and 4 battle ars.

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god rust belt is a maze

main dove
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Am I the only one having issues on every single map today of the AI teammates getting in eachothers way and getting locked in an intense staring contest in every hallway?

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I haven't been able to get a run above B today on the elephant because the absolute bonobo apes keep getting stuck behind tables or in corners

alpine void
thorny perch
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yeah

vague isle
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ik

uneven hazel
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I'm getting this glitch where this suspect is on his knees with his hands up, but he's in this weird limbo state where I can't cuff him, but I also can't tazer him or anything.

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Anyone know how to fix this?

wraith basin
uneven hazel
stone bay
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I just got an update what the hell changed

mossy bloom
stone bay
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why reply 😭

mossy bloom
stone bay
stone bay
stone bay
tacit gull
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The game just tracks your activity on it now

stone bay
tacit gull
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Yes

neon pagoda
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I couldnt get into a game, kept crashing

Just did a clean install and trying to load in and its still crashing.

I have i913900k and 4090, I could play on Epic settings with High res reshader with no problem. I set all settings to low and still cant launch. Any ideas?

compact garden
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lets do this, S rank on hospital. attempt: I dont fucking know

covert furnace
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I know that feeling

uneven hazel
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What do I do if a suspect simply REFUSES to comply?

stone bay
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shoot him 30 times in the chest

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works for me

uneven hazel
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My guys have dumped like four tazers into him and he is still just standing there

alpine void
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its b

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i never wait for the cult ppl in carriers of the vine i always hit them

compact garden
uneven hazel
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I was using bro as a punching bag and he still didn't budge

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I ended up just having to give him a couple sleeping pills.

short pond
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Does anyone have any tips on S Ranking Carriers of the Vine? I've been trying for ages but my AI always seems to get themselves killed by the end of the mission.

civic sail
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Gas

short pond
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I usually run CS Gas, Bangs and Stingers alongside beanbag shotguns so I've got a bit of everything in the squad, is there a specific order I should clear the map that makes it safer?

civic sail
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Tons and tons of gas

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Just gas no bangs or stingers

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All gas no brakes and a beanie shotgun is how I get my S ranks, I'm not too good at the game so gas makes it significantly easier for me

short pond
short pond
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Too scared for commander mode lol.

civic sail
jolly verge
civic sail
short pond
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Ohh ok, thank you :).

civic sail
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No problem

livid arrow
uncut geode
languid shadow
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how do you prevent civilians from randomly getting killed throughout the mission elephant

amber dock
languid shadow
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So the system is punishing me for not arresting the suspects

amber dock
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Incap you can too

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It’s a active shooter that’s the whole point

languid shadow
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Then just randomly theres a civilian getting killed like

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-200 points

amber dock
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Yeah that’s intentional

languid shadow
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ah man

errant parcel
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wait wrong chat mb

tribal zealot
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How can i make sure my bots don't spawn with lethal ammo? I took away all their sidearm magazines but they spawn with a fresh mag no matter what I do

gray heath
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give them non-lethal weapons, duh

tribal zealot
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yeah i did but you don't have a non lethal sidearm

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and took away their lethal mags

alpine void
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then u need to make sure it was saved in the customisation menu and u need to make sure all of them have been edited

sterile dagger
neat pagoda
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How do you change the difficulty?

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Just curios

hazy shuttle
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šŸ‘

neat pagoda
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I dont play this that often

lone cloud
neat pagoda
tiny swift
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Why cant I access the home invasion DLC when i have completed all base game missions?

alpine void
tiny swift
tiny swift
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do i really have to replay the whole campaign with no mods to get to the DLC in career mode?

narrow geode
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If you want to play dlc missions in commander mode
You need to complete port on commander mode

tiny swift
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oh boy

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better get to work

narrow geode
tiny swift
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hospital time :3

limpid cypress
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good luck

calm cloak
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I blew someone’s head of with a slug earlier today at the Elephant map…

limpid cypress
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was it a suspect?

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gah should I run flashlight or canted laser on vine

edgy linden
wraith basin
limpid cypress
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aight

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might as well go canted

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ill just have an extra pistol mag for super dark places

calm cloak
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I think he was on of the campus officers running around

limpid cypress
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how many suspects are there wtf

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this feels like a game of cod

tiny swift
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There we go S ranked port hokan, DLC here I come

limpid cypress
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damnn

tiny swift
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Surprised it worked out that well

polar night
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Me and my girlfriend were attempting to pepper spray only Greased Palms, went well up until we got to Jack. Idk how he tracks so good with no vision lol

solid sphinx
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Hey guys. Did the new update add anything other than the helicopter camera?

glacial drift
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anybody have a link to the 20 in the 80s song that plays on Mirage at Sea? lovely tune

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its the one that plays on the top deck party area

opal basin
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but no, it added 3 new guns and 3 new maps

limpid cypress
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Hospital time wish me luck

harsh vigil
shrewd nimbus
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tried that and it didnt work

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maybe i have to unzip it into the .pak file instead of just moving it?

shrewd nimbus
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tried that, did not work again

left stump
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Oh poop

limpid cypress
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oh rq, when the ai say "opening on the left/right" does that mean thats where they are going, or are they just warning thats theres an opening

limpid cypress
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oh man

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port hokan

slate comet
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Curently loosing 25-30 years of my lifespan but its all worth it for that sexy hawian shirt

chrome tide
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when do you think the next update is

chrome tide
slate comet
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IK dude and it dosent help im living of dolar tree energy drinks and beef jerky

chrome tide
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haha real man we all have those moments

slate comet
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Amen I have rocked the t shirt and jeans fsr my whole time after valey of the dolls

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Throw in some gpnvgs and a wand

edgy linden
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Tacticool

slate comet
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Exactly Ik a bunch of dudes from my county's swat and they be using like a Ruger 5.56 and like a Glock 17 gen 3

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Like personly even in game i shouldn't be trusted with 40 grand nvgs

cloud stirrup
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When attempting to load direct 11 or 12 it says something along the lines of corrupt data found or sm shit, but when selecting clean/no mods, it loads fine?

stable kernel
cloud stirrup
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Oh thanks! Thought I cleared all my mods and it was a different issue mb

limpid cypress
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port hokan beat

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that took me 50minutes

spring knoll
cloud stirrup
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Is the reddot bugged?

narrow geode
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?

cloud stirrup
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Maybe im missing sm but i could not see the red dot for the red dot sight, the reticle was only visible when shaking my gun violently

jolly verge
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Disable DLSS/FSR and set resolution scale to 100%

cloud stirrup
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thanks! i was wondering if it was like a cheap sight and sm related to me sitting in the glaring sun

covert furnace
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when does it give you big shell specialist? when you finish the mission or after you get the second headshot

jolly verge
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Right after kill

covert furnace
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thanks, my sense of distance must be bad, i killed two of them across the whole distance of the outside lanes, and figured that was more than enough distance, guess not, ive heard the big stairs give plenty, might try that

jolly verge
covert furnace
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very helpful, thank you

raw python
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Hi. With the most recent update (Feb 2025) officers no longer drop their weapon as securable evidence when they go down in multiplayer. Is this an intended change or a bug?

Cheers.

wind orchid
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I havent had this issue, maybe turn highlighted weapons on?
sometimes the guns glitch away from where they would originally drop

raw python
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I have it on, and it's been happening consistently for me and my friend

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If I die they can't see my weapon and vice versa.

wind orchid
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I havent found anything about that glitch online so it might be new. I personally havent seen that before. Maybe open a ticket about the issue if you can record the glitch when it happens

raw python
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I shall make a report then!

upbeat shore
lost inlet
boreal plover
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LLOOOLLL

iron lance
cloud stirrup
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Anything with a pak number over 23 in your paks folder is a mod, toc mods unless named ogg i think, and anything in the mod.io folder

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unsure if reshade affects it too but I deleted that

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Just make sure when adding mods you backup your files so its easier to revert back to a clean game

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If that doesn’t work check modding faq, usually has something that i miss lol

iron lance
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will do ty

oblique garden
bronze latch
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Anybody who knows if its autherized use of force to c2 a door with an armed suspect on the other side? Sometimes theyll be hugging the door and opening it gets really awquard lol

buoyant cliff
buoyant cliff
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if they arent too close you should be good to c2 it and it will incap/fake death

tired cosmos
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or just fire through the door if possible

buoyant cliff
tired cosmos
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fair enough

tacit gull
bronze latch
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Yeah alright thanks. Also do anybody have challenging ways to replay the game besides going for S ranks? Any mods spiking the dificulty or something like that?

tired cosmos
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im pretty sure astrals AI has different difficulty levels, though im not sure how hard they actually are

bronze latch
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Would like s rank runs if it didnt mean the whole squad has to bring with them nerf blasters

narrow geode
modern gyro
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Used to get 90 fps on this game bro how am I getting 380 now šŸ’”

bronze latch
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Hahaha yeah but im looking for challenging in a fun way

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Not in a greased palms way

modern gyro
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did they insanely optimize this game or sum

bronze latch
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Why the heartbrake emoji lol

alpine void
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no the optimisation became worse

modern gyro
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I dont really get it hten 😭

alpine void
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more ppl be struggling now
i used to get 40 to 60 i now get 22 to 30`

white cape
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i hope the developers will make huge non AI optimization

lime escarp
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Is there a way to make the bots actually follow my command? I tell them to bang and clear but they just move and clear

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When I die and spectate them they’re banging and clearing with no problem

alpine void
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maybe it was a one time thing?

lime escarp
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Nope it’s happening multiple times

oblique garden
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Very hyped for difficulties

lime escarp
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Is there a mod that makes the squad better?

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Honestly I wish there was a lone wolf mode

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I know it defeats the purpose of the game but the bots are killing me

alpine void
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just order them to stay in the beginning of match

lime escarp
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Ive done that. Here’s an example I’m playing the gas station solo with them holding outside. I’m going through the level and I come back to the main entrance and the bots are carrying civilians out

alpine void
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i have never had them move or not use tacticals so this is out of my helping range

cursive minnow
lime escarp
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No worries I’ll figure it out thanks. I got the game a few days ago so maybe I hit a button or something. I didn’t know about the trailer thing thanks for letting me know

cursive minnow
lime escarp
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Cool thanks

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I’m going to wait to install any mods since I’m still learning the game

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I’ve played a few multiplayer games and that was fun and a little chaotic lol

white cape
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is there a optimization mod ?

cursive minnow
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I recommend you make backups of anything it ask you to replace or modify before doing so.

white cape
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thank you

umbral kestrel
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is there a way to stop myself being black? im not being racist or anything but when i point my pistol, i see my black skin, and it just kinda ruins the immersive experience realism cuz im white irl

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idk ik that sounds crazy but im js wondering lol

cursive minnow
umbral kestrel
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i do the single player with the AI people

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wait so u can play with like reallife ppl online??

cursive minnow
umbral kestrel
cursive minnow
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Idk perhaps a bug I've never heard of skin color changing bug though.

tacit gull
#

bro is stuck in wolfenstein 3d ages

quartz island
#

Who trynna nb on rn

bronze latch
#

can you not get the steam s rank achievements with mods running?

amber dock
#

Should work no matter what

bronze latch
#

ait ty

supple scaffold
#

hey
How to stop civilian deaths on Elephant?

tacit gull
#

Just go as fast as you can

narrow geode
#

You have 2 minutes

tacit gull
#

Suspects are on a timer

amber dock
#

Oh lord dude got the mod role

muted star
#

why u greer

tacit gull
amber dock
#

Guess I can't bully him anymore

tacit gull
#

my power is infinite now

#

i'm more stylish with the lime role

rugged dagger
#

Hello, I'm faced with a difficult decision. I have to choose between Dark Waters DLC and the Home Invasion DLC, which one is cooler, please help me

narrow geode
#

Second dlc is better

rugged dagger
#

home invasion??

narrow geode
#

No

rugged dagger
#

Dark water

narrow geode
#

Yes

rugged dagger
#

ok

stable kernel
tacit gull
#

man

#

that would have been so funny

stable kernel
#

Ah right jmods don’t get it in ronchat

#

You get it in gen chat though

tacit gull
#

discord blueballing me

amber dock
#

HAH mods don't get perms

tacit gull
#

shut up bluename JudgeDredd

stable kernel
#

Bluey

supple scaffold
narrow geode
#

There are 4 suspects

#

And you have 2 minutes

amber dock
stable kernel
#

Try again gratr

tacit gull
#

okay, this is epic

amber dock
narrow geode
#

šŸ¦€

limpid cypress
#

It’s fine I’ll go buy dark water rn if it’s still on sale

tacit gull
#

Home Invasion isn't bad

#

But dark waters really stands out

limpid cypress
#

It seemed like a really big stretch based off the store page

#

Like Moreso then most of the missions

tacit gull
#

From a real life perspective dark waters and just ready or not as a whole makes about 0 sense, no suspension of disbelief is really gonna convince you otherwise, but from a design and gameplay perspective dark waters just blows the rest of the game out of the water

limpid cypress
#

What makes it so good, or would that spoil it

tacit gull
#

Dark waters adds some nice mechanics that are supposed to make it to the rest of the game, the levels are grandiose and have very distinct themes and overall they have mostly good layouts and ideas in them

#

One map is a repeat of the maps in the original games but slightly better (it's the same gimmick from the worst map in the game imo)

prisma tusk
#

All that + you can honk the horn on the floaty map yea

stable kernel
#

Peak

#

Versus the boring lore dialogue button next to it

tacit gull
#

Bro sounds like he's bored out of his mind

#

he needs some youtube shorts in his life

brave wing
#

When do we get more disturbing missions in ready or not

prisma tusk
#

Have you played all the levels?

soft narwhal
limpid cypress
brave wing
#

i know valley of dolls the spider sinuous trail and 23 megabytes and leviathan are dark but we can get something darker

limpid cypress
#

h-have you played them?

tacit gull
#

Some of them are already bordering on goofy, what did you have in mind, though?

limpid cypress
#

I mean you cant really even get any darker

#

you also didnt mention three other dark ones

brave wing
#

Gratr i am afraid to say my ideas incase i would get the hammer

limpid cypress
#

Have you played the game

brave wing
#

Yes

stone bay
#

why isnt elephant in that list of dark missions

limpid cypress
#

and youve beat it?

limpid cypress
stone bay
#

elephant is a real contender for heaviest mission to play through

brave wing
#

Yes i have beaten the missions and there are alot of good mission idea just by looking in the real world with all the shit that is going on

twilit mulch
#

not heavier than Neon Tomb, Doll House or Port Hokan

#

even Relapse is darker than Elephant

limpid cypress
#

port hokan was horrifying

stone bay
#

dude ready or not made me shed a tear in my first hour of playing

twilit mulch
#

Ready or Not made me Judge Dredd irl

stone bay
#

cause i was playing a mission, i forgot the name but it was one where u go to some house in the woods with traps everywhere

limpid cypress
#

lethal obsession

stone bay
#

i was very new so i get my whole team to open a door to inside and they opened it, all 4 of my team blew up and died

stone bay
#

i shed a tear šŸ˜”

brave wing
#

Rebember officers these are dark waters

stone bay
#

they opened the door and a second later they all on the floor and its dead silent 😭

civic sail
#

is beat cop like way out west where you can only use your pistol?

twilit mulch
#

yes

#

only for Narcos mission

civic sail
#

no tools or anything

twilit mulch
#

exactly

civic sail
#

cool

brave wing
#

That should have been the tagline for the dark waters dlc

tacit gull
#

TOC, theese women seem to be playing Hide & Seek...

brave wing
#

Ready or not here we come

tacit gull
#

^ voice line that was unironically in the alphas of the game

humble mauve
#

you look like the guys from the movies

tacit gull
#

something something mexican something something

limpid cypress
#

I just got jumpscared so bad

stable kernel
#

You might know her

brave wing
#

Sicario?

fathom laurel
#

just got a suspect that completely refused to surrender on non lethal. three beanbag rounds and a taser and this guy is just still going at it

brave wing
#

Yeesh was the suspect on anything?

fathom laurel
#

it was on the spider, I think they have some armor there but aren't on drugs

#

even with armor withstanding that was crazy

tacit gull
#

Definetly not intended

brave wing
#

Makes me think of what happened in north hollywood

civic sail
tacit gull
#

gatr

oblique garden
stable kernel
#

We need a new version

tacit gull
#

I'm already getting the star treatment i see JudgeDredd

edgy linden
#

I can't wait to host Terminator ai lobby later and see ppl rage quit in solo hosting

limpid cypress
#

smgs are so fun but they suck so bad

tacit gull
#

They work well enough most of the time

limpid cypress
#

that last bit is the bad part

#

maybe its just me running it full auto but damn its so fun

tacit gull
#

Full auto is why smgs exist

#

the SPC 9 is fucking awesome at running out of ammo

limpid cypress
#

last time I ran it, the p90 on full auto was just unfair

humble mauve
#

on 1.0 made the mistake of giving the AI the spc

#

every time I saw them they had their pistol out cause they had no more ammo

limpid cypress
#

how fast does it fire

humble mauve
#

isnt it about 1200 rpm

#

something crazy high

tacit gull
limpid cypress
tacit gull
#

We need more weapons with ridiculous rpm

#

we got the socom which is just

limpid cypress
#

gau 8 avenger

#

air strikes in RoN would be sick

humble mauve
#

pvp glock 18

tacit gull
#

but i want my famas and i want it now

edgy linden
#

What if we gave suspects a 50 cal sniper and they could do full damage through most walls and objects?

tacit gull
#

So just 1.0 AI?

civic sail
limpid cypress
#

what???? I thought it was a sims ripoff

wraith basin
lapis kettle
#

sniper rifles when

covert furnace
#

November Echo Victor Alpha Hotel!!!

lapis kettle
#

sad missed opportunity because it would be really cool tho not verry usefull on most maps

opal basin
#

also wtf gator is a mod now

limpid cypress
#

wtf is wrong with gatr as a mod

mortal wind
#

Do stingers have a longer stun duration? I've rarely ever used them im not sure what their advantage is

edgy linden
covert furnace
jolly verge
lost inlet
#

Stinger > flashbang most of the times.

mint swan
#

Does anyone know any content creators who post videos clearing out maps with like a 2-3 man squad (playing tactically obviously)

alpine void
#

i saw one not too long ago but i cant remember the the name but i do remember that they had a south african SAPs member in the team and i think that was in the title as well so u can try look for that but it was maybe 3 to 4 members

jovial kernel
#

So whats this 60GB upcoming update I see on Steam

narrow geode
urban walrus
lime escarp
#

That lethal obsession level is hard I can’t get past it

narrow geode
#

There are only 3 suspects

#

If you're playing with AI teammates
Just tell them to clear the rooms

#

And
Check every door for traps

lime escarp
#

Really seemed like more than 3. The traps are whats killing me I got almost through the level and I didn’t check the door and trap went off

neat pagoda
#

the best thing that can be done

lime escarp
#

It’s just a pain in the ass level lol

neat pagoda
#

Ikr

lime escarp
#

I can only imagine the fresh hell that comes after that level lol

#

Do any of you play any user created maps?

alpine void
#

Greased palms is the only map I hate

lime escarp
#

Don’t know that one

#

I’m sure at some point I’ll get to it

neat pagoda
alpine void
#

post office

neat pagoda
wary fractal
#

anyone up for the post office map?

narrow geode
real bison
spark peak
#

Why it keep saying corrupt data found, please verify your installation, i downloaded mods through in game mods workshop

jolly verge
spark peak
#

ty

neat pagoda
real bison
#

Its okay there's 18 levels in this game excluding dlc

warped barn
#

how can i get better guns?

jolly verge
#

🤨

unborn pelican
bitter mason
#

All guns are unlocked by default all guns are good mostly
Just equip what looks cool

ember dove
#

Hey uhh just asking

#

I thought "Bring order to chaos meant all suspect and traps taken care of, or not? "

tacit gull
#

Only all suspects

ember dove
#

I thought it was, and got prankes by a damn trap

tacit gull
#

Traps are no longer scored (thank fuck)

ember dove
#

Goddamn XD

alpine void
#

moving up the ladder now gratr

rigid depot
civic sail
#

Because he's a bad guy

rigid depot
#

Like bro last time i did greased palms i had to take his compatibility with life because he was being aggressive

rigid depot
civic sail
#

Yes in the RoN universe FISA is extremely corrupt

#

I usually just incapacitate the dickhead he's not very strong, still get the arrest objective and still get to shoot him

magic comet
#

That Fisa dude is horrible

#

I think he got killed like 5 times or something when we tried to get the S there ...

#

Funny to read, that the FISA is corrupt, I was already wondering why they got a whole container full of naked women....

tacit gull
#

That's not FISA's lmao

#

but they're not subtle about it at all

neat pagoda
#

Oof.

#

Spelling mistake

hexed leaf
stone bay
wary fractal
stone bay
bitter mason
hushed anvil
#

hey when did spider get an update? last time i played it was all private security guys like in valley. Much prefer this version of the map with the gang members, so much easier than a dozen guys with kevlar and automatics

torpid hawk
#

Why does my game crash on DX12?

#

Well it black-screens on startup when I launch DX12, when I launch DX11 it loads well.

cursive minnow
hexed leaf
hushed anvil
jolly verge
hushed anvil
#

ahh ok

nimble patio
#

yo

#

i just had a hacker in my server since when are there hacks for this game bro wtf

jolly verge
#

What kind of hacks?

nimble patio
#

he was like walking fast, shooting at light speed, automatically making EVERYONE handcuffed and surrender

#

he was walking through walls

#

and no matter how much he got shot

#

he never died

#

devs might have to upload an anti cheat

#

😭

twilit mulch
#

šŸ¤¦ā€ā™‚ļø

jolly verge
#

For what? If it's your server just kick/block him

nimble patio
#

its something new lmao this isint really a game worth cheating in imo

twilit mulch
#

neither is it worth wasting resources developing an "anti-cheat" system instead of improving other aspects of the game, creating new maps etc.

nimble patio
#

good point

opal basin
nimble patio
#

fun

opal basin
#

I do it with my friends in the hq training area

bitter coral
#

To anyone at Void, I know you probably won't see this, but please, can you add a mode similiar to SWAT 4's where the players are able to make their own scenarios on each map by selecting the suspect model, number, how many civilians there are and the guns used by the suspect? or maybe even just a randomized version of each map with casual objectives? LikeT-hunt style? I think it would add more replayability to the game :)

nimble patio
#

@frosty whale @steel crypt btw just launch the game in safe mode

#

so no mods

tepid nebula
#

Hey, I think I found some bug in game, where can I report it?

jolly verge
#

What bug exactly?

tepid nebula
#

It's in main story I think it's a port map, when you go inside a corridor made of containers, my teammate stop following me even when I use 'fall in command

It's look like they stuck or something

jolly verge
#

Known issue

tacit gull
tepid nebula
#

Ok, thank

velvet steeple
#

It would leave it with a ton more replay-ability

alpine void
#

i think they just do that it happens to me all the time

bitter coral
#

Wish they had a suggestion channel

granite peak
#

are the mods outdated i haven’t played since the update

prime wing
#

As always, yes

cursive minnow
prime wing
#

^

#

The latest patch shouldnt have broken anything related to mods as far as we know

#

it was mostly backend changes involving telemetry

granite peak
#

thanks guys šŸ‘

bronze crescent
#

how many shots can enmies take against a shotgun with a bullet vest?

tacit gull
#

It depends on what level vest it is

cloud stirrup
#

am i fucking stupid??? ive been running around the mindjot map, one with all the servers, and i cant find the last suspect

limpid cypress
#

Roof?

cloud stirrup
#

this map has always given me problems 😭

#

i swear ive checked every 15 times

narrow geode
#

Check outside
Maybe

cloud stirrup
#

he was outside 😐

#

he was crouched hiding in a corner but never shot me when i walked past him 5 TIMES

limpid cypress
#

Did he surrender

cloud stirrup
#

I mag dumped him

violet swift
velvet sierra
#

how do u guys find the last suspects on a map? i am convinced i have searched every corner on the neon tomb yet it still says bring order to chaos and rescue all civilians

jaunty plover
#

bleh i decided to give 3 letter triad another try for S tier, and EVERY time i am doing well i get one of the bugs where suspects become unarrestable

velvet sierra
#

u think thats what is going on? because im not going crazy i have genuinely searched every room in every corner over and over again

#

im even firing in the air hoping a suspect or civilian responds but no one does

frosty crow
#

Just sprinting in with white girl music blaring is the most fun ive had in a while.

frosty crow
upbeat yacht
#

im finna crash out

#

just got done with valley

#

you tell me the one right after is elephant?

frosty crow
upbeat yacht
#

i dont want to fucking run around at mach 2 trying to eliminate every threat in 5 seconds

covert furnace
upbeat yacht
#

normal, this is my first playthrough

frosty crow
upbeat yacht
#

yep

frosty crow
#

want some help? ill hop on

upbeat yacht
#

i mean i played the game before 1.0

#

ive had it for a while

bitter coral
frosty crow
#

im trying to due Way our West without AI and im getting very aggitated that a dude in a t shirt can take 3 357 to the chest and walk it off

upbeat yacht
#

ikr

#

one time a guy in a suit took like 2 223 rem rounds to the head and shot me for fun

frosty crow
#

Looking through the achievements i saw hidden and dangerous and decided to never attemp it or ill go insane

weary hamlet
#

anyone know what could be wrong with the seraglio achievement?

#

i rushed to arrest sahid multiple times and have completed the whole mission as well, it doesnt give me it

twilit mulch
#

doesn't register as a completed mission or?

frosty crow
twilit mulch
#

in any case, you need to arrest Sah'id before he can issue the order to execute hostages AND complete the mission without losing any hostages

weary hamlet
#

did it like twice on upper

weary hamlet
#

at least i think so cause i didnt fail the civvie objective

twilit mulch
#

right, that means he gave the order despite you managing to save all civilians. Need to be quicker

weary hamlet
#

im guessing theres no way to tell when he gives the order

twilit mulch
#

not really, other than getting minus points for losing civilians which means u're way too late. Spawn on sun deck and get the guy asap

weary hamlet
#

alr thanks

limpid cypress
#

Wait, they don’t kill civies if you arrest him?

twilit mulch
#

they don't no

#

if you restrain him within approximately two minutes, u've saved the civilians

limpid cypress
#

Oh that’s nice

#

Imma replay that mission prolly

#

I kinda wanna cook with a battle rifle

upbeat yacht
#

huh

#

i thought elephant was gonna be harder than that

#

i was expecting as much resistance as valley

#

just gotta not bring in an LMG and run around quick and i can get it done easy

frosty crow
#

Does using a mirror gun block the way out west achievement?

civic sail
#

ye

frosty crow
#

god i hate this achievement

#

no nvgs no nothing still wont get it to pass

#

cant figure out what im doing wrong

opaque zealot
#

i think you cant have anything equipped on your helmet either

frosty crow
jolly verge
topaz crow
#

On the gun challenge missions i only bring pistol and kick all the doors or have my teammates kick them if my legs break

boreal maple
#

Hey, I have a question!

I finished all the main RoN levels in Ironman mode, getting the achievement for having no officer deaths too. However, despite this, the "Developer's ruined watch" remains locked?
It specifies that you must complete the game in permadeath mode (Ironman mode, which I have done) without losing any officers (which I have done on this save, giving me an achievement for it).

#

is this bugged or am I missing something?

arctic temple
lofty prism
#

if i get asked to move over one more time i’m losing it

boreal maple
# jolly verge One of your officer resigned

many did indeed, I had multiple missions going from 4 content officers to 4 in crisis, usually having 3 pulled into therapy while the last quits, no way around that, ideas?

#

its interesting that the achievement only cares about deaths while the watch cares about resignations

jolly verge
#

You just need arrest few suspects to offset stress

boreal maple
#

myself? usually the squad does that, and most suspects are taken alive

jolly verge
#

Does not matter who arrest

#

If suspect killed/incapacitated officers will gain stress

boreal maple
#

oh, incapacitated gains stress 😬

jolly verge
#

Yeap

boreal maple
#

i usually, uh, incapacitate everybody

#

i let the other guys clean up after i shoot things 🤦

jolly verge
#

2 Negotiators and you should not have any problems

boreal maple
#

is the SBAGS trait at all useful?

#

(it claims to reduce stress)

jolly verge
#

It's reduces stress from killing, but effect is really minor with one guy

#

2 Negotiators, 1 Armorer and 1 Pacifier should be fine, 50% chance to surrender from yell and 25% from any stun effect like grenades

tired jungle
#

I don't really use negotiators because i carry so many stuns anyway

main blade
#

@tired jungle

#

INDIGO CHAN SENPAI!!!!

tired jungle
main blade
#

Sup

misty surge
#

anyone know how to slip that grenade in through that tiny crevice of the peeked door

#

i have skill issues

narrow geode
#

?
Aim for the gap between the door and the wall

copper silo
#

slightly walk into the door to open further šŸ¤”

smoky kernel
#

Use tappy so you can increment the door open more?

narrow geode
#

Blow up the door

#

Now you can throw the grenade better

copper silo
#

or use a launcher

random sail
#

is the game whort it

unborn pelican
#

But you should wait for a discount

#

The next one isn't that far

plucky flare
vast yarrow
#

Can I stop my AI pulling out their pistols in a non-lethal run? It's making it difficult to S-rank longer missions.

smoky kernel
#

No ammo no problems?

vast yarrow
opaque hound
#

Has there been a theory about the leftmost D-Platoon member in the A Lethal Obsession "All Eyes On Me" evidence?

random sail
twilit mulch
random sail
#

what.

tacit gull
civic sail
twilit mulch
#

not much of a Serbian if he doesn't recognize those symbols

opaque hound
tacit gull
#

It could also be paz, but i've never gotten a good look at his hairline under the helmet

civic sail
#

I'm soooooo smart

twilit mulch
#

u're Canadian, of course you're smart

opaque hound
slate tulip
#

.

stable kernel
#

Can we get a balding tierlist of all the playable officers

amber dock
#

Judge is firstJudgeDredd

narrow geode
copper flint
#

Ready or Not

bronze latch
#

Man i really hope they add a camo spray alternative for all of the weapons in the future. Get tired from only having standart black rifles. I get that its more military than law enforcement but the game has diamond watches and hawaii polo shirts so who cares really

frosty crow
bronze latch
#

find me a camo spray g36 mod and ill use it

cursive minnow
#

I mean you don't really need to join that server for mods unless you want to be kept up to date on the latest you can just go to Nexus for them.

cursive minnow
bronze latch
#

hahaha yeah. hopefully they add that as a part of the base game at some point šŸ¤ž

dapper hornet
#

Whats the 3GB update about?

narrow geode
eager holly
#

anyway to play older builds of ready ornot?

#

i miss the old hotel and old cherrsya farm

tacit gull
#

Somebody already remade old hotel and cheryessa on nexus

cursive minnow
#

Yea there's mods for them.

tacit gull
left stump
dapper hornet
#

Dang. Thought it was something new.

#

I want Street Cop uniforms. :c

left stump
alpine python
#

Will Ron get ported to console

hybrid hazel
#

Gas Station true solo A+ in 3.21 aint too bad right?

civic sail
chilly thorn
left stump
alpine python
celest ingot
scarlet flax
#

Shooting everyone in 3:21 is easy but grabbing civies and guns is impressive imo.

wicked shore
#

which drivers will be better for RON right now??

fathom laurel
#

probably the one that gets you there the fastest, so you can S rank elephant

eager walrus
tacit gull
civic sail
#

fuck I hate civilians what kind of wuss dies to an arm shot

magic osprey
#

Iam trying to get 100% of achievments and I need tips on how to get "The fool" achievment i've trying to get it for like 3 hours now

smoky kernel
#

Voll and the lady in the bathroom will punch you to death

#

Or the lady that normally spawns in the bathroom closet dont yell at her or smack her and she will kill you eventually getting the achievment

magic osprey
#

alright i will try that

edgy linden
#

with randoms too.

scarlet flax
#

Yeah but he was talking about true solo

#

5 Man is pretty easy.

stark horizon
#

am I doing something wrong or why do I have half my normal fps on the oil rig map?

#

Im on 50 fps there

scarlet flax
#

50 fps in this game is pretty good

amber dock
#

With how the game runs I'd say that's normal

scarlet flax
#

Yuuuuuuuuuuuuup

#

Shoulda played OG Ends of the Earth when the attic made you run at 10 fps

stark horizon
scarlet flax
#

I mean it's the only map in the ocean and it's raining the entire time so like,

#

lots of weather effects = gpu no likešŸ¤

stark horizon
#

can I somehow decrease the quality of water then?

scarlet flax
#

Prolly not specifically water

tame osprey
#

Any chance we can get the ATAK-R 1-12X and SDR 1-4X scopes to allow switching to the 1x magnification implied by the name instead of being stuck on the high magnification?

scarlet flax
#

Perhaps in dlc 3

tame osprey
#

I really hate the irons on the SDR 1-4X. The height over bore on them is massive.

#

I'm trying to run a M14 in a designated marksman rifle setup.

amber dock
#

Just use the aim pro

scarlet flax
#

Honestly I can't play with scopes in this game period. I need a 1x red dot of some kind for the clearer/bigger sight picture.

amber dock
#

I always use small sights, the only gun I use 12x scope is the Sa 58

#

All other guns I use aim pro or red dot

tame osprey
amber dock
#

if youre really lazy then just cant gun and do it like that

#

It's click adventure

scarlet flax
tame osprey
#

Which is the reason the IR laser exist for use with NODs

amber dock
scarlet flax
#

Yeah I wouldn't sneak around with it but it's optimal in super close quarters because you can actually see what you're doing.

amber dock
#

Like if I die from someone I won't say 'damn laser alerted them' I'll just blame my skill issue

bold sky
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elcan specter ftw what it just gives 20% recoil reduction

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no other sight just straight gives recoil reduction and canted aiming is so broken in this game who cares what the sight image looks like 95% of the time

scarlet flax
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That pretty true actually. Normally I run a flashlight instead because it feels more useful. Laser like I said, is only good for careful shots while canted because you can see what you're actually pointing at.

tame osprey
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Why do I get unauthorized use of deadly force when we corner a guy, are all yelling at him to drop the gun, and he doesn't drop the gun so I put a 7.62 in his skull?

full shore
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You get UUOF unless the suspect brings their gun up to aim at you

scarlet flax
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Bro you shot homie in the face for deciding to comply. His gun wasn’t pointed at you and he was coming to terms with jail time and then you wasted him.

Easiest point loss of my life.

scarlet flax
tame osprey
frail pier
scarlet flax
tame osprey
edgy linden
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Funny anime mod

remote turtle
civic sail
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???

scarlet flax
scarlet flax
remote turtle
tame osprey
subtle shoal
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What is on the Beauty and Ferocity tattoo

edgy linden
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I want a ready or not mod that makes me not ready.

limber escarp
edgy linden
hazy shuttle
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Test

cedar parrot
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have you people checked out the black powder red earth mod?

worn dew
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Hey guys. I'm new here. Never use Discord before. Need time to get used to it.

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I already have 760hrs in this game since 0.9.0

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As far as I know, I'm not dumb, knowing a little about CQB tactics.

worn dew
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lmao Sometimes I don't have enough time to judge, I would. Especially when I'm bleeding and a civ opens the door in front of me

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In Volly Valley, some civs would take out their phones to take photos of me, if I can't see their hands clearly, I will take the shot.

edgy linden
worn dew
worn dew
edgy linden
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Especially in the context of going through multiple gunman already

worn dew
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Yeah

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Score is dead thing. What's the difference between S, A+ and A

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My mission is to bring order to chaos.

edgy linden
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S is basically 'i used less lethal and gas/grenades' to achieve a perfect score

worn dew
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If someone give up their right being rescued or cooperating with us, I don't care. Taser will come to them

worn dew
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Like me. lol

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I trust my teammate like I trust my gun.

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What you guys feel about "Elephant"

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Priority: Acitive shooters >Bombs > Civilians

edgy linden
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Very useful for active shooter missions in particular

scarlet flax
worn dew
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Sorry I can't let them run toward EXIT if I can't guarantee the safe route.

scarlet flax
worn dew
worn dew
edgy linden
worn dew
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I know that mod. It's great.

scarlet flax
worn dew
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I don't need to collect the weapons on the floor for scores

scarlet flax
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I mean if you’re just going to shoot bad guys for the sake of shooting bad guys you should get the old meat grinder AI mod and play Gas Station or Server. Familiar maps with like 60 suspects.

worn dew
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Sometimes you need to collect them, because you can't block all the ways here. There may be other suspects picking them up and using.

worn dew
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I'm not just shooting the bad guy.

scarlet flax
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But you’re not playing for scores either?

worn dew
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Like I said: Score is dead thing.

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I prefer better performance.

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From brief reading, map planning, weapon selecting to ending conclusion.

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I made some plots for my team. Adding stories.

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Make them feel real.

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We mourn for the teammates KIA during the opreation.

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When they are chatting in the police station,

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about dinner, family, games or other things

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I send alarm out, in 20 seconds, every one gather in the brief room

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And there we go

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Some maps can be connected, if they fail to find the critical evidence, leading to Bad End.

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They find it, then I'll give them fuerther missions. And we enjoy the tinnie when opreation is finished.