👮ron-discussion

[silent swift]

I guess realistically thinking about it for a second most body armor can pretty much easily handle 9mm - .45 acp

[stark dew]

To be fair, getting hit by .45 acp in the stomach would be pretty painful

Even with body armor

[silent swift]

Eh i could see them realistically ignoring it in levels like neon tomb, ides of march, and a couple others because they’re heavily armored and experienced

In others though it just doesn’t make sense

[sturdy atlas]

yall

getting an S on hide and seelk is near impossible i swear

[ripe stirrup]

No mercy for terrorists made it easier for me to get A or more on most missions

Only elephant is hard because the shooter keeps killing all the hostages and giving me an E

[stark dew]

Guys

What’s the best secondary?

[silent swift]

For me, the revolver. As long as you’re pretty accurate it’s the only pistol that the suspects can’t shrug off

[loud crescent]

against unarmored or lightly-armored enemies, revolver
against heavily-armored enemies, five-seven

[stone bay]

When you download mods, do you drag the mod into the ready or not files or do you have to do something else?

[cursive minnow]

#❓modding-faq message

[stone bay]

ty!

[stone bay]

Yeah, I did everything and the mods are not working for me 😭

[warped cave]

I'll keep this in mind

[tribal moon]

finding a local public lobby for the last year has been borderline impossible and even when i do find one it's laggy as hell for everyone in it

last time i mentioned this problem a moderator said "that simply isnt an issue so thats impossible"

[stark dew]

Is there a difference between gun down and gun up positions

(By gun up position I refer to the latest clip in #🎬ron-clips-and-media)

[blissful rapids]

hello everyone

im installed some mods from mod io but mods are not working

none of them

[tardy light]

Why is a mispalced flashbang friendly fire

[upbeat shore]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/925225229612089409/1300165108848132116/modio_broken_use_nexus.gif

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/925225229612089409/1300165115806486538/modio_july_23rd_mods.gif

[blissful rapids]

thanks a lot

[upbeat shore]

[blissful rapids]

i have to install same folder direction right? paks folder

[upbeat shore]

#❓modding-faq message

[blissful rapids]

oh okay thanks

[stark dew]

That’s lame

I don’t like nexus mods

So far I really enjoyed thunderstore due to them having a mod manager

r2modman ❤️

[upbeat shore]

Yeah nobody is happy about the situation.
But it is what it is

[stark dew]

I might need help with the game

Every time I try to peek the door (even the slightest bit) NPCs blast me

I guess I should bring more explosives

And maybe a teammate with a cam gun that actually tells me what’s behind the door

[tardy light]

Shoot trough the door

Problem solved

[stark dew]

The civvies tho

[tardy light]

Colleteral

[stark dew]

Icic

[tardy light]

haha

[stark dew]

But that’s not very nice for the score

[tardy light]

c2 and flash

Always bring your own wand

[stark dew]

The grenade launchers will use my grenades as ammo, right

[tardy light]

And im not sure if using the ram stuns them for a sec ive never had return fire with ram and flash

I never use them

[tardy light]

Theyre separete

[stark dew]

And how much grenades do I get for a launcher

[tardy light]

4/5

You can check your mag count by holding R

[stark dew]

This+grenades I can carry normally….. that’s a lot of grenades

[tardy light]

Yes

[stark dew]

Seems like grenade launcher is my to go for public lobbies

[frail pier]

4

[slow radish]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/794646185125609485/869308987072475226/image0-7.gif

wow

[leaden harness]

hey guys, how much replay value would you say the game has?

i'm considering buying the game, it's a chunk of change in my region so wanted to get some feedback

[thorn egret]

Def has a lot of replay value imo, especially with different builds and tryna get all S ranks

And then you have online play, modded maps, etc

[real bison]

Whats your hardware?

[tiny quail]

i would literally replay maps that are near impossible for me to beat solely because of the atmosphere, storytelling and vibes

sins of the father my beloved

[rich quartz]

Okay so question on rain maps does rain actually like accumulate on your clothes at all or?

[amber dock]

What do you mean?

[stark dew]

How’s his hardware related to replayability of the game?

[real bison]

"Its a chunk of change in my region"

If he's got a potato it wont have any value at all to him

[stark dew]

He didn’t ask if he could run it, he asked if the game can be replayed

[rich quartz]

Like with maps that have rain like sins of the father or the spider, does rain like show up in your clothes? Or your clothes or gun appear to be wet

[amber dock]

Uh yeah clothes and stuff get wet yeah

You can see it very clearly if you stand out in the rain for some time

Very satisfying sound might I add

[rich quartz]

Oh I see

[stone bay]

Each member of the SWAT Team is cannonically only 130cm tall

I wish I could send the image here

Sent it in #🎨ron-screenshots-and-art

[cunning fulcrum]

Tased a civvie with a bomb vest 4 times, meeleed 5 times, shot in the foot 2 times, then it still thought it was a good idea to rush towards me while shouting

-50 Unauthorized use of force

[sour relic]

Is this guy can't surrender until you melee him?
#🎨ron-screenshots-and-art message

[amber dock]

He's very resistant sadlt, so keep spamming F and punch him every now and then

[sour relic]

i'm doing a challenge where i won't do anything but shout, this guy however never surrender

he either stuck or can't surrender until you melee

[amber dock]

Yeah that's not doable i think

You have to use some other means with shout

[sour relic]

i have done 4 missions so far and all of them surrender

i did encounter a bug where if they are stuck (can't navigate) then they can't surrender until they start moving to a different location

so far, Streamer map and Crack head map have this issue

i have to chase a suspect across the map for them to auto surrender

[hallow echo]

how can i open team roaster?

[loud crescent]

hold tab

[hallow echo]

hold?

oh thanks

[solar laurel]

can someone help me out im stuck on ides of march

[rocky plover]

You can also just press tab and open it but if you wanna zoom on it then hold it

[rocky plover]

Wedges are your best friend on that map

[solar laurel]

im still on soft complete but ive looked through every single damn room like 3 times over i have all the civs and hostiles cuffed and theres no more other things to be checked or bagged

[rocky plover]

Did you arrest at least 3 suspects?

Part of the objectives

[solar laurel]

isnt that not required for full complete

[rocky plover]

There are no hidden objectives (soft objectives) on that map so getting all main objectives, evidence and securing civvies and suspects should be all

[solar laurel]

im gonna crash out

ive spent like 50 minuites on this map looking for what else i need to do

[rocky plover]

Do you have swat AI with you?

[solar laurel]

yes

[rocky plover]

Try the search and secure command

[solar laurel]

already did it

like 15 times

[rocky plover]

Did you fail any of the main objectives?

[solar laurel]

just the arrest one

[rocky plover]

Might be because of that you have to force end it

[solar laurel]

im goin bean bag this time if i dont get it consider my pc toast

[rocky plover]

You got both sniper rifles right aswell?

And report the 2 dead civilians in the apartments

[solar laurel]

i have everything done on that map but the arresting thing

[rocky plover]

Yeah just confirming

[solar laurel]

im going again cus i hate myself

[rocky plover]

Good luck

Have fun 🙂 don't frustrate yourself haha

[solar laurel]

youve jinxed me

youve jinxed me bad

[rocky plover]

Why? 😂

[solar laurel]

told ya

died to a tripwire

[rocky plover]

Ouch

[tiny mountain]

Is Hidden and Dangerous achievement doable without DLC?

[mystic flame]

does anyone know why when my friend tries to join my lobby it says connection to host lost or something like that

[rocky plover]

when I was hosting for a friend so he can get the last S rank on that map (and in conjuction he gets Hidden & Dangerous aswell) for some reason all the achievements unlocked for him apart from hidden & dangerous...... seems like only the host can get that achievement I guess cos we tried multiple times

[tiny mountain]

~10h to complete all maps
~300h for multiplayer if you find friends to play

[tiny mountain]

Did anyone else tried hosting or only 1 person with DLC?

I know it's bugged rn but I've seen some ppl say they achieved it with different host or after more playthrus

[rocky plover]

it was just me and him and since I only have the dlc and he doesn't I dont think he tried with another host

[tiny mountain]

I see, it's been like 4 months or more with that bug

[rocky plover]

I mean it's been a long time since we tried, and we haven't tried again since so I don't know if it's fixed or not.

[tiny mountain]

it's not, otherwise ppl would have already said it
That being said,I'll try 3 runs with different hosts, maybe it works maybe not

Going for 100% achievements on RoN, Hidden and Dangerous is stopping it for now

[rocky plover]

if you want I can host, but considering it did not work for my friend I doubt it will for you.

[tiny mountain]

which region you on?

[rocky plover]

yeah i understand the frustration when a not so super hard achievement stops you from getting a 100% completion

EU

[tiny mountain]

sounds good, I'll dm ya

[rocky plover]

👍

[bitter mason]

try turning off server checksum in the settings. Otherwise idk

[mystic flame]

ill try

ty it worked

[bitter mason]

👍

[mystic flame]

but the loading screen are gonna make me kms one day

and again it says connection to the host has been lost while we were loading a mission

[tiny quail]

I'm trying to use anything but the mirror gun so i don't look more paranoid than the guy at lethal obsession trying to mirror every door and corners possible

problem is i play solo

[broken cedar]

How can i play modded maps
do i have to play the whole campaign first? and if so, is there a workaround or a save i can download, i lost my progress twice already i dont want to replay it all

[rocky plover]

Crap electricity went out.

[tiny mountain]

#❓modding-faq and #🔧modding-chat explains that
to answer your question, you can play any map (including updated modded maps) immediately, if you host multiplayer game

[tiny mountain]

how do you lose progress btw? You only lose if you choose ironman mode, other modes all save your progress

[tiny mountain]

happens
gg anyway

[rocky plover]

We can try again another time.

If ya want add me on steam

[broken cedar]

well ive had the game before the huge update and know many maps by heart plus i played the whole new campaign through then reset my pc so i know the maps i just want to play modded maps now, lovely game

[real raptor]

Js a quick question. Do anyone know what caused game to freeze/crash when playing sp?

[tiny mountain]

Very hard to determine, ppl crash for a lot of reasons
Firstly I'd check if game crashes in safe mode

[copper cypress]

Does buckshot have a wider damage range than a bean bag?

[jolly verge]

Beanbag always deal 5 damage on any distance and always kill if headshot with it
Buckshot deal 40x8 damage up to 25 meters

[copper cypress]

Oh~ Ok.

[tired jungle]

Buckshot is best used to forcefully change the expression on the suspects face

[noble pasture]

-play first mission
-get A rank
-everyone in the squad is anxious when we didnt tehnically kill anyone
Devs made the game too hard with the stress mechanic

[tired jungle]

Once you start unlocking the perks for your squad, especially ones which affect the stress gain it becomes much easier

[covert aurora]

^ this is true, there's fairly good one that leviates stress the more you arrest suspects

[noble pasture]

It slows down the campaign by a lot to keep grinding Gas Station

[covert aurora]

can't remember the the name of it

[tired jungle]

Last time i played thru the whole campaign on ironman i never had to go back to the grind gas station to manage stress levels

Just get enough arrests and you're good

[noble pasture]

4/4 anxious after 1 mission

[tired jungle]

Yeah, i imagine you got one or none arrested

Your swat team is a bunch of softies

Get used to it

[noble pasture]

Incapped the suspects

[jolly verge]

Anxious stress range is quite large

[noble pasture]

Not even a single dead

[jolly verge]

Incap still count as kill

[noble pasture]

It shouldnt

[tired jungle]

Yeah you are right but it does

[noble pasture]

That coked up kid will live, question them later

[tired jungle]

There is a learning curve

Like i'm not sure you are even supposed to make it thru the entire campaign without problems or fails

When you are playing for the first time and alone

[noble pasture]

I prefer lethal approach

Non lethal is a fantasy

[lost inlet]

fax

[noble pasture]

So you tell me you are doing a police raid on hardened criminals with bean bag shotguns?

[tired jungle]

You can always install a mod which removes the stress system

[crisp forum]

what is up with this game, ive been struggling on sinous trail as a newbie and not because its hard but because it keeps freezing and i have to force quit. anyone have any fixes?

[tired jungle]

Or play without the bots

[noble pasture]

Game now detects mods added manually marking your save

[tired jungle]

The gas station robbers are just a bunch of teen age thugs

[noble pasture]

Still got guns

[jolly verge]

It's does nothing

[tired jungle]

Doesn't matter

[noble pasture]

Lessens the bragging rights

[jolly verge]

and you can remove stress gain without mods

[tired jungle]

Nobody runs the game vanilla

Trust me

[noble pasture]

Okay so gameplan: make 2 loadouts for my guys

Lethal and less lethal

Less lethal for gas station farm

[jolly verge]

or just use grenades

and play with lethal

[noble pasture]

I grenaded a guy, he just emptied down the hallway his gun

[covert aurora]

also incaps do not count as arrests for certain objectives

[glad grove]

Hey guys ! Do you know if there any way to help with the translation of the game ?
In french, RON is ok but some chunks of text are not translated (or just bad translation) and since I'm native, I would love to help for free.

[tired jungle]

Sometimes a piece of rubbish on the floor blocks the AOE

[covert aurora]

I would try getting in touch with Kaminsky the community manager, He might be able to give you an answer

[glad grove]

Ok thanks !

[covert aurora]

Np!

[crisp forum]

is the stress system so bad that even for a first time, i should use mods to negate it?

[tired jungle]

If you find it blocking what you want to do

[crisp forum]

currently on sinous trail

[tired jungle]

Then yes

[crisp forum]

i mean its quite ass, but i thought it was meant to be fair

[tired jungle]

The point of mods is being able to play the game the way you want to. There is no shame in disliking a stupid system like that

[crisp forum]

and i havent really even been able to level up officers to see the passives into action

[jolly verge]

The most op traits right now is negotiator and pacifier if you run with less lethal/gas build

[ocean lichen]

Anyone else just plain not able to pass Voll Health house? I've got A+ on like every other mission but I'm absolutely stuck on this one

[full gale]

Do you have A+ on relapse?

[ocean lichen]

Nah I meant I have an A+ on like all the missions leading up to the health house

Im bouta be stuck on relapse for like a month 😭

[full gale]

Bro I understand you, by the end of the mission, out of 5 operators, I had only 2 survivors and 1 bro who lost his friends, the last victim heroically took the damage on himself, the enemy had RPD

[lone dock]

hey, does officer resigning affect hermit achievement?

[jolly verge]

Nope, only watch cosmetic

[lone dock]

thx

[noble pasture]

How many mags to bring?

I use semi auto but shot placement and recoil management is a bit bad so bigger caliber?

@jolly verge

In my logic a bigger bullet will have higher chances to hit and take down a target

[jolly verge]

Depend on map

7.62x51 wont oneshot on every of them

[ocean lichen]

How many suspects are on elephant?

Is there only one cuz its an active shooter

[jolly verge]

Only 4

[ocean lichen]

Oh alright

[crisp forum]

i run full lethal. arresting is my last resort. if i see an enemy i scream once, if he dosent get down i shoot them

[jolly verge]

You should try 2 negotiator, yell will make suspect surrender with 50% chance

[ocean lichen]

Speaking of screaming u got any good mods that replace the vanilla yelling

I have a good one rn but I wanna switch it up

[crisp forum]

sorry i just started playing the game so im still doing vanilla

just cleared sinous trail. idk why my officers are anxious though, did the mission fine but got a B+

[ocean lichen]

If you have them clear hella rooms on their own I think that increases their stress

Also killing suspects rather than arresting them

[jolly verge]

Killing anyone will increase their stress

if you wont arrest anyone alive they will resign from duty really fast

[crisp forum]

yea ok thats it im downloading mods

[crisp forum]

yo can anyone tell me what morale/stress mods they were talking about?

cant seem to find a specific one, its all a part of ai overhaul mods

[cursive minnow]

Your best bet would be this one: https://www.nexusmods.com/readyornot/mods/3278

[crisp forum]

ok yea got that one

thx

ill probably download his other mods aswell

also dumb question: in order to play mp with other ppl with mods, every person needs to have mod installed?

[crisp forum]

ic

thanks

why is this a sticker

[covert aurora]

its asked frequently

[crisp forum]

yes and would be better for it to be an image so i can save it for later

is the vanila ai a fair exp with the no mercy for terrorists mod or is it better to go harder ai?

[molten dawn]

how come my best rank does not carry over in multiplayer?

my friend and I just got S ranking, mine stayed (i am host) but his did not stay and still says A+ even though he got a S with me.

[full gale]

Ehh, if it weren't for the price of DLS, I would have bought it

[opaque meadow]

I cant believe im going to be playing RoN in real life,
Just got accepted into Armed Police school !

[stark dew]

Are dlc maps good?

[stark dew]

Grats!

[full gale]

Bro, I congratulate you

[noble pasture]

@tired jungle downloaded a mod that disables stress mechanic

[full gale]

I would like to go to the special forces or riot police, current MOK health does not allow

[wraith lance]

Dang ! Wish you all the best !

[opaque meadow]

thank you all im super excited

[crisp forum]

Damn that's actually insane. Stay safe.

[opaque meadow]

truly feels surreal

[clear dome]

I dont play multiplayer, but imho, they are made with multiplayer in mind. In that case they are fine. Had somewhat neutral experience playing them in singleplayer with SWAT AI.

[noble pasture]

Are they gonna release Dark Waters soon?

[covert aurora]

Sometime this month probably

What date we dont know but hopefully soon

We will find out more on the 5th

[noble pasture]

If they dont release it this month (most likely) they will after new year

Since its gonna be winter holiday

[thorn egret]

The sooner the better

[noble pasture]

What about the presidential assassination teaser?

I know dark waters is maritime dlc

[thorn egret]

I think that's a governor assassination

[noble pasture]

Not Ides of March, its an animation where a guy pulls a pistol on a politician

Ready or Not related

[thorn egret]

Yeye I know

I thought that was ALSO a governor thing-

[noble pasture]

It would be so funny if its same governor

Dude would have 3rd attempt on his life

[thorn egret]

Lol, he can't catch a break

[noble pasture]

1st was Ides of March, 2nd was Sins of the Father

[noble pasture]

Help me understand Elephant

[thorn egret]

I forgot Ides of March exists

Sins of the Father feels like a better version of Ides of March imo

[noble pasture]

Were the suspects on pills when they shot up the college?

[thorn egret]

I have no idea

[noble pasture]

A bottle of Anti Depresants is in evidence locker

But we only have half of the suspects ID'ed

2 named and 2 unnamed suspects

[thorn egret]

ready or not is actually all in judge's head that's a hint to that, trust me

[noble pasture]

I refuse the "Its all a dream or illuminate is fucking us" theories

What happened to "corrupt city, fight corruption"

[thorn egret]

Trust me it's all a dream (Those are real theories?)

[noble pasture]

Yes

People cope that it doesnt have some bigger plot

FISA commander isnt some criminal mastermind

[jolly tiger]

best ai overhaul mod? the ai way too overpowered

[noble pasture]

He tells us to lock the girls back up since its an active combat zone

[thorn egret]

They are??

[thorn egret]

I thought it was because, as he said, "You're interfering with a FISA investigation" or somethin

[noble pasture]

Its not some overarching motif, its safer if they stay put than have them run around

[jolly tiger]

they used to be... idk if they updated it. only just re downloaded the game recently and thought about gettin my old mods back

[thorn egret]

Plus if you have subtitles on, when the FISA guy says that, his name turns red

[noble pasture]

Usual civies get zip tied to not run loose

[noble pasture]

Its always red, you dont pull a cod on me

[thorn egret]

Nuh uh

Unknowns are yellow, friendlies are..Blue? Hostiles are red

[tired jungle]

Eh, it's more plausible that they want to track where the container is getting shipped to so they can eventually get whoever is paying for them

[thorn egret]

They got nerfed a while ago

Depends on how long ago you played ig

[noble pasture]

No, we have already spooked the criminals in auction room the girls will get ETM's but after FISA asks them some questions. The victims themselves make good witnesses

[jolly tiger]

Oh that’s good I won’t download the ai mod

[noble pasture]

But its easier than we think, those are imigrants

Their pass ports got taken away

[thorn egret]

Yeah, most AI mods now just make them harder

[noble pasture]

Promised a new life in USA only to be traficked

[noble pasture]

https://youtu.be/vkLQQ68O9zI?si=FFB8Bac-YNZq38Qj

Its red from the get go

[thorn egret]

Red...AS HE SAYS TO CLOSE THE DOOR!!

[noble pasture]

Thats, thats his first line you goober

[jolly tiger]

I really wanna download the SAS mods but they ain’t working since the new update rip

[thorn egret]

So
It's red as he says to do bad thing

As a comment said (of that video)
"Also notice that FISA commander name in subtitles is in red, while teammates and TOC are blue, Civvies/Unknowns are yellow and enemies are red in the subtitles."

[noble pasture]

Players here think that because 1 FISA agent (Adams) was corrupt they are all bad

[noble pasture]

Thats Judge's perception

He more than likely left civilians like this before and they died

[thorn egret]

I mean, that's up to the player to do

We can't really say what Judge himself has actually done

[noble pasture]

No, you have to lock the doors to finish the mission. I do the civies container last

[thorn egret]

Uh
Yeah
And Judge says "What? We're not leaving them like this."

so he's pushing back against orders to shut the doors and lock them

[jolly tiger]

when officers resign what actual difference does that make cus they auto get replaced

[thorn egret]

Uhh

[noble pasture]

You get locked out of some achievements

[thorn egret]

Well you can- Yeah

Plus you may have unlocked certain abilities with them, so losing out on said abilities can be annoying after you do a few missions and unlock them (Of which can be very useful)

[jolly tiger]

pointless lol to me anyway

[noble pasture]

Also I am right about plot line not following the Hide and Seek criminals

We go straight to Hurricane arc

[thorn egret]

Yeah, wish we had some more expansion on that whole thing

Hopefully we get that in DLC 2

[thorn egret]

Also
Loud incorrect buzzer

That's a soft objective

[jolly tiger]

guys is it just me or is swat ai more of a nuisance than a help

[noble pasture]

Wait what happened to Live Rat?

I know they die in Neon Tomb but there is another in Valley of the Dolls

[thorn egret]

Might be like

[noble pasture]

A double Amos hired?

[thorn egret]

Maybe??

I'm almost thinking it's a daft punk kinda thing

[thorn egret]

Idk I've never had a problem with them

[noble pasture]

They only need to wear the head and DJ like the old one

[thorn egret]

I usually give them a shield, breaching shotgun, ram, and gas launcher

Though I also do 1 shield for both red and blue team, then a ram for the both of them as well, if it's a mission I wanna split the two teams up on for a two door breach

[noble pasture]

Shotgun breacher is all you need

[thorn egret]

True

[noble pasture]

Metals doors go down as fast as wooden ones

[thorn egret]

Me watching as my legs shatter from kicking a door one too many times

[tardy light]

Because of a flashbang i lost S rank on carries of vine

[thorn egret]

Elaborate

[noble pasture]

He hit a friendly with a bang while they had gas masks

Counts as friendly fire damage

[thorn egret]

Damn lol

[noble pasture]

Nulifies S ranks

[thorn egret]

That sucks; I have a 20% fail rate with flashes

Going through doors and stuff

[tardy light]

BOUNCED OF THE DOOR POST

[noble pasture]

New RoN timeline is crazy

Gas Station and then Neon Tomb?

D Platoon went from gas station stick up to god damn Terrorist Attack

No official timeline but the one given by Shane Shut Up

[covert aurora]

Its because of the date of when that spific event happens

[thorn egret]

Just another day in Los Suenos

[covert aurora]

Mission    Date
Thank You, Come Again    February 3, 2025
Neon Tomb    April 19, 2025
Relapse    May 8, 2025
Carriers of the Vine    June 1, 2025
A Lethal Obsession    August 20, 2025
Twisted Nerve    September 29, 2025
Ides of March    October 1, 2025
Sins of the Father    October 2, 2025
Rust Belt    October 15, 2025
Elephant    October 17, 2025
Greased Palms    October 25, 2025
Ends of the Earth    December 3, 2025
23 Megabytes A Second    December 8, 2025
Sinuous Trail    December 15, 2025
The Spider    December 21, 2025
Valley of the Dolls    January 5, 2026
Buy Cheap, Buy Twice    February 10, 2026
Hide and Seek    February 18, 2026
Lawmaker    February 19, 2026
Dorms    February 20, 2026
Narcos    February 25, 2026
Mirage at Sea September 15, 2027
Leviathan October 21, 2027
Three Letter Triad November 5, 2027```

If you want the actual chronological order

[warped cave]

dorms and narcos being 5 days a part is crazy

[noble pasture]

Hold up, Valley is in 2026?

[warped cave]

dorms and law maker 😭

[covert aurora]

Mmhm

[thorn egret]

2042 when

[warped cave]

lspd couldn't catch a break, port and law maker then dorms, 5 days later narcos 😭

[noble pasture]

Port blew agent's cover in Narcos

[warped cave]

lore lore lore

[noble pasture]

LSPD crackdown spooked the cartel

Cartel sussed out the undercover cop

And its brutal, they took his fingers, toes, and an eye

[covert aurora]

If your ever in quickplay and you die watch the ai, you can see the date and time in the helmet cam

[warped cave]

thats cool

I've never done quickplay, i do commander

[noble pasture]

Bro is retired, not on good pension either

[covert aurora]

I think its in the helmet cam when in you hit t?

[warped cave]

yeah

bodycam footage when 🙏

okay but that'd be cool asf

[noble pasture]

Zero Hour did it and it sucks

Can't aim the gun

[warped cave]

ron devs can do it better 100%

[thorn egret]

I think he means like

How you can watch the helmet cam of your teammates

?

[noble pasture]

Where is the aim point then?

Up the ass in the corner?

[warped cave]

in multiplayer, if you die it'd be cool to have an option to see your friends bodycam

[thorn egret]

Not aiming

[warped cave]

bodycams you can't see when someones aiming

[covert aurora]

You can, its through their helmet

[warped cave]

only when its at the ready

[warped cave]

i mean a vest camera

[covert aurora]

Gotcha

[warped cave]

would be cool

[thorn egret]

I can see how that'd work, you could have a toggle for it in the settings

[noble pasture]

I need to roll the dice if my team mates are good or not

In multiplayer

[warped cave]

i just play with friends in multiplayer

they're the ones who taught me swat stuff so

[covert aurora]

Roll 1d20 add or minus your luck modifyer

[thorn egret]

90% chance the first time you join a lobby it'll be Watchmenwakeup

[warped cave]

i played one time with random people

they didn't even bother trying to make the suspects surrender

💀

[thorn egret]

good

[warped cave]

you'll get a better score if you don't kill them all i believe

[thorn egret]

Eww, higher score

KILL EM ALLLLLL

ENGULF THEM IN PAIN

[warped cave]

plus in the training, he says "we're not killing machines" or something like that, and in "technical" terms ( 🤓) swat don't result to lethal force immediately.

[warped cave]

he didn't say that in the training, sorry - i was thinking of a teen citizens academy i went to 💀

[warped cave]

bro i hate relapse on s

i give up, i'm getting mods ill just beat it when the new dlc releases

😭

only 16/18 anyway for them, so once the dlc releases i'll beat the dlc, relapse and port

[stone bay]

I'm stuck on sins of father

I always get close to killing all of them, then when im bleeding out they run at me like they know im hurt

[clear dome]

Its up to you how you want to play, but if you are interested, there are mods on Nexus that allow you to get S while doing lethal run. RoE and other factors are the same, its just you dont get reduced points with lethal guns

(Yes, Im that guy who hates that S rank is locked behind non-lethal weapons 😭 )

tho I think you will make it!

[warped cave]

deadass?

would i get the achievement with the mods or no

"medal of valor"

[clear dome]

well, my Home invasion DLC achivement says I got 1S out of Three, and Im playing only lethal,soo...

[clear dome]

I need to learn more myself, I cant be sure, cuz I dont do achievement hunting, but looking at my achievements, I get S counted, even tho I dont do non lethals

[warped cave]

hm

i got the ihps, msv, and combat g4s by ballistic

this isn't my first time modding, so thankfully it worked.

[clear dome]

hey, I went into RoN, I looked at my S missions, and watched Medal of Valor achievement numbers

They stack up as they should be

And I have relapse on S, even tho im SURE that I didnt do it on non lethal

you get S if noone of civs or SWAT dies, and every suspect neutralised/arrested

[warped cave]

gotcha

thank you!

[clear dome]

so yeah, you can mod and get it

no problem

[cursive minnow]

All modding does is make the score unofficial it does not prevent the ability to unlock achievements or unlock cosmetics.

[warped cave]

ohh okay

[clear dome]

yep, thank you, I couldnt explain better myself

[warped cave]

So when uninstalling mods, (its been awhile for me) you just delete the files that are from the mod, and verify your game files, correct?

[cursive minnow]

Verifying is only needed if you installed things like voice replacers or music replacers or just generally anything that required you to replace game files to install if it's just .pak mods removing them from your paks folder is all you have to do.

[warped cave]

oh okay

what are good gloves for the us army outfit

[cursive minnow]

The ones you have on are fine for it, the ironsight gloves would work too or you can get any of these and use them with it if you don't have them already: https://www.nexusmods.com/readyornot/mods/3763 https://www.nexusmods.com/readyornot/mods/3869 https://www.nexusmods.com/readyornot/mods/4516

[warped cave]

thank you!

got the full us army loadout lmao

m17, sig mcx spear, mcx,

[lapis nacelle]

Yooo question, how do I make my firearm "go high ready" I've enabled it in the settings lol but what's the keybind?

[covert aurora]

Spacebar i think?

[lapis nacelle]

Ohhh okkk thank you bro

[covert aurora]

Np

[edgy linden]

If I enter the config file and put in it "skill=true" will I get better at the game?

[shy tulip]

Yes

[thorn egret]

I swear to god I'm gonna make a petition to have Watchmenwakeup banned

[lone cloud]

nobody can get banned from this game since the game has no servers and is entirely peer to peer. the next update will include a way for players to block people they do not want to play with

[ocean lichen]

Bro is it physically possible to stop the gunmen in elephant from executing hostages

I really want to but i prioritize the bombs first

[shy tulip]

(You don't)

And Meh is correct

[thorn egret]

[shy tulip]

Well they could in theory be banned, but they'd have to violate Steams TOS. And that isn't against Steams TOS.

[thorn egret]

this is a democracy

[lone cloud]

i mean banning people from singleplayer/coop games is kind of cringe anyway blocking is a good solution although it will be funny when people start complaining about long queue times or high ping since they blocked everyone in their region

[shy tulip]

https://tenor.com/view/senate-palpatine-star-wars-gif-5129779

[prime wing]

those who know

that one forums user that has like 1k players banned

[shy tulip]

I thought you said "the forums that has like 1k players banned" and I was going to say we're not that bad

[thorn egret]

Man I gotta upgrade my PC motherboard

I'm getting latency spikes like CRAZY

So annoying

[warped cave]

i modded once and won't stop 😭

[thorn egret]

Time to make a generic all black operator

[warped cave]

[stone bay]

The ambience sound in Sins of the Father actually scare me 😭

[warped cave]

😭

[noble pasture]

gotta hit that spot

[noble pasture]

swat AI killed a civilian

good thing that I installed the no stress mod

they have zero trigger deiscipline on human shields

again!

twice in same mission

[crisp forum]

im so fed up of random freezes

does anyone have a fix

like ill do anything to make this shit stop

[bitter mason]

Yep
Pretty terrible oversight on the devs part
Swat ai always aims centre mass and don't care what is between them and their target

[noble pasture]

If it wasnt for the mod that would be game over from second mission

With 2 dead civies

[noble pasture]

just got such a bad gas station suspect spawn it ruined my entire ironman/less lethal run

onl 1 guy was in the dinner, 2 staff rooms and 1 behind glass

I need to restart entire campaign at how bad it was

15 minutes editing every loadout to die in 20 seconds

[stark dew]

Guys

When you get kicked, does it show that you got kicked?

I miss kicked a very fun guy by accident

[amber dock]

Yes

[stark dew]

I feel

Awful

[amber dock]

Well nothing I can do about that

[stark dew]

Does it just say that “you have lost connection with the host”

[icy wraith]

that's why swat, having 2 teams, should have better autonomy for that kind of thing. Disarming bombs is a big one. Leave red team with the bomb and continue searching. It's an OBVIOUS game loop, hard to understand why it's not a thing yet

Team lead shouldn't be the bomb guy

[amber dock]

No it can say you’ve been kicked

[noble pasture]

Also EOD should handle bombs

Not the Entry Team

EOD's method is making it blow up in a field somewhere or if it really has to be defused send a specialist

[icy wraith]

Yes, but i'd accept the simplicity to keep it localized on the team. I don't think the coding hassle would be worthwhile

[noble pasture]

Swat 4 is also guilty of this

I remember 2 or 3 maps feature bombs

[icy wraith]

swat4 and rainbow six 3

[noble pasture]

Good thing is RoN has only one bomb map

[icy wraith]

2

[noble pasture]

Huh?

[icy wraith]

the hospital too

[noble pasture]

Oh right

[amber dock]

This person knows maps

[icy wraith]

also. iirc, you can order the team members to defuse bombs in swat4

it's a non-brainer

[amber dock]

Don’t think you can in Ron yet sadly, they can disarm traps I know

[tardy light]

Is AP more effective against armor than JHP?

[tacit gull]

yes

[tardy light]

Ty

[tacit gull]

I'm pretty sure they could pre-1.0

[amber dock]

Not anymore? Bruh

[tacit gull]

You could also tell them to report stuff for you (why)

[amber dock]

I miss old Prescott lines ‘can you put your hands up please?’🥺

[tacit gull]

what did you just say about prescott

[stark dew]

I don’t like carriers of the vine very much

I just can’t get a B, man

I even try to incapacitate instead of killing using SMGs

[tacit gull]

That's pointless not only because rifles are better at incapping but because incapacitating anyone but the main targets doesnt give you more points

[stark dew]

SMGs are way more forgiving against unarmored targets

[tacit gull]

It takes two shots to incap most people, maybe 1 extra shot if they're armored with rifles

[stark dew]

For SMGs it’s 3 shots against unarmored

Also SMGs are very short and have decently sized mags

I’d say MP7 is a nice weapon for missions such as carriers of the vine due to lack of armored targets

I’ll try P90 next

[tacit gull]

Both the P90 and the MP7 are designed to penetrate armor, so i dunno

[tacit gull]

and... so are the rifles

[stark dew]

I’d say that an MP7 is shorter than rifles

[tacit gull]

have you tried using the MP9 it's an awesome gun

[stark dew]

Nope, I didn’t

[tacit gull]

good

[noble pasture]

can I get tips for a modless ironman run?

[frail pier]

Play the game but don't die.

It's not like it changes anything with AI or difficulty.

[lost inlet]

eww 9mm, worst caliber in the game

[elder void]

Greetings and Happy Monday. It is now the 2nd of December. Is this close enough to winter for the DLC 2 release?

[lost inlet]

more info on Dec 5th

[stone stump]

winter doesn't start until Dec 21st in the northern hemisphere

[gaunt gale]

Now if only the music didn't start until the 21st

[amber dock]

Just wear ear pros

[tired jungle]

For the hermit achievement? Happy trigger finger, don't focus on score. Prioritize survival and if it goes real bad in the first 25% of the map, feel free to bail out if you are late into the levels

[noble pasture]

So disregard RoE?

Shoot anyone with a gun?

[tired jungle]

Well i'm not saying disregard it completely as you will fuck the ai stress levels and worst case scenario not get thru the level

But what i mean is, don't go for risky plays while trying to get an arrest

[noble pasture]

Well if I follow RoE B is worst it can get before penalties

B can be literally kill all suspects

I get it reliably on Border Map

[tired jungle]

Well i mean, killing without them before them raising their gun is unauthorized use of force

Just keep that in mind

[noble pasture]

So for stress levels we can do gas station

[tired jungle]

You can grind it if you want to

[noble pasture]

But need to be on top of things in a normal mission

[tired jungle]

But as general advice i'd say if you think you or the swat team is going to get shot unless you kill the suspect then do it

But it would still be good to get some arrests

[noble pasture]

Get SA-58 AP to fuck up suspects?

[tired jungle]

Well it's personal preference

[noble pasture]

20 round mag is very uncomfortable

But 1-2 shots should incap or kill anyone

[tired jungle]

I would say going for headshots with a full auto mp7 is one of the easiest ways to kill quickly

But you need several mags more

[noble pasture]

Is 5.56 AP good as all rounder?

[rocky plover]

The way I did it was just go full force and didn't care bout the score that much, as Indigo said prioritise the safety of you and your team, I just rotated officers around when they were getting super stressed, didnt even need to grind easy maps tbh.

[tired jungle]

Sure although i do like 300 jhp the most

[noble pasture]

How do I enter a room safely?

Split the element and have them peek first?

If no one engages us from the door make entry

[rocky plover]

I mostly like to use clear with leader cos I don't trust the AI that much

[tired jungle]

Well i mean

You should always use the mirror gun on yourself

[noble pasture]

I have poor aim and my swat AI kills human shields

[tired jungle]

Information allows you to better approach situations effectively and safely

[rocky plover]

I give the mirror gun to the swat AI I prefer using the launchers they are super OP but yea mirror gun can also be good

[noble pasture]

Launchers are bad on swat AI

[rocky plover]

Ye that's why I prefer using them myself

[noble pasture]

If suspect has sight on door it will shoot

[rocky plover]

And give mirror gun to AI

Couldn't go wrong with shield on some of the AI as well

That's what I did and gave them the revolver, they dropped suspects like swiss cheese

As for officer traits I used 1 nutritionist, 1 armorer, 2 veterans

[tired jungle]

Now that makes... Fuck all sense

[rocky plover]

With 2 veterans their aim was very good surprisingly tbh and it worked

[stark dew]

I wonder how are people getting so much “unauthorised use of force”

Or whatever

What are they doing to civvies, jeez

Just chuck a stinger at them and if they don’t behave shoot

[tired jungle]

Civilians are not the only ones that applies to

Some people just shoot suspects on sight because they got surprised or scared

[winter pendant]

Spam f = fewer penalties

[noble pasture]

HK416 for Ironman?

[rocky plover]

I'd choose an easier gun to control just for the sake of it, not saying it's a bad gun, I like it a lot but there are better weapons recoil wise

G36c, f90, mcx, lvar, Sr16 are all solid

[lost inlet]

worst 5.56 gun bruh

[noble pasture]

F90 and Five Seven?

[rocky plover]

Yea sure

[tired jungle]

G36 for SRO

[noble pasture]

G36 has worst reload

[rocky plover]

And slow RoF but still a good gun tbh

[tired jungle]

You should never have to reload under fire

I should like fken

[jolly verge]

It's 2:27 for emergency and 2:50 sec for tactical reload, some other guns have longer reload time

[tired jungle]

Do my own tierlist for ron guns

It will be the law

And if you disagree you are off to lspd jail

Next to fken

Idk

The terrorist leader

Personally i think the 57 sucks

[winter pendant]

Anyone but the psychiatrist

[tired jungle]

Like yeah the armor penetration is good and the 20 round mag is good

But what does it matter if the rounds do absolutely no fucking damage

Even if it does go thru armor

Shoot a mf 7 times and they be still standing

[tacit gull]

The 57 used to be king untill it got converted to bbs

[rocky plover]

Ikr 😂😂

[winter pendant]

I used to use it with shield but in addition to the low damage the recoil was weirdly high. Since switched to the USP

[noble pasture]

USP is 45 no?

[winter pendant]

Mhm

Unlike the 1911's it has enough rounds per mag

[tired jungle]

I would say usp is the best right now

[rocky plover]

And recoil is better too

[tired jungle]

The only caveat it would have to the colt is the size

Bit since it's a game, the usp being fucking huge doesn't matter

[winter pendant]

Right. 1911 would probably be lighter and faster to deploy as a backup, but if it's a game, then whatever

[noble pasture]

1911 was not made as a cqc weapon

[tired jungle]

The colt in the game is not a 1911

It's a meusoc/m45

[winter pendant]

"It's not an ar-15, it's a SOPMOD mk2"

[tired jungle]

The m45a1 does have improvements over the original m1911 tho

Improvements which were specifically to make it a better weapon for cqc

[winter pendant]

"It's not an ar-15, it's a SOPMOD mk2"

[lost inlet]

both shoots 45 ACP, both holds 7 rounds, what's the differences?

[tired jungle]

That's like saying both ar15 and hk416 shoot 5.56 and hold 30 nato round magazines and asking what the difference is

[tepid timber]

it is the same

[rocky plover]

1 jams alot irl 🤣

[winter pendant]

Ingame, not fuckin much

[lost inlet]

really hope boid don't add jam to the game cause i know damm well they'll made the suspect have small to none chance to jam their gun while yours is like 50/50 per bullet

[hexed leaf]

gun jams should not be a thing in this game. Real police officers keep their guns clean

[tired jungle]

The m45a1 improvements are such as, double recoil spring system, lighter triggers, ambidextrous safety, better sights for visibility, improved firing hammer, ergonomic grips, a rail system etc

What makes the ar15 from a rifle to a cqc oriented rifle is literally just shortening the barrel

[winter pendant]

So, a different model and a rail

[lost inlet]

not a huge gun nerd nor an 1911 enjoyer but appreciate the explanation nonetheless

but i prefer keep things in game

[tired jungle]

The original statement was "1911 was not designed as a cqc gun"

Yeah it was not, but it does necessarily require huge changes to fit that role

That is why in the game we have the m45a1 and g36c

[rocky plover]

Of course 🤣

[tired jungle]

The guns these variants are based on are not designed for cqc

Those being the m1911 and g36

[winter pendant]

I guess that's true, it would be really hard to snap shot down the tiny little gutter sights of the og 1911

[tired jungle]

Yeah

[lost inlet]

"Um actually, if you look around the station and inspect it carefully, you'd see that the officers are all very bad at keeping their guns clean so make sense our gun would jam a lot. Why are all the officers are so bad at maintaining their gun? Idk, ready or not's logic."

[tired jungle]

guns jamming would be an ass mechanic from the perspective of fun

it works in tarkov because that game has actual mechanics for maintaining weapons

that ties to the loot and loot tier system

without, it would just be a chore simulator

[lost inlet]

it works in tarkov because the dev don't want the game to be fun, they wanted the game to be frustrating

guess that's why there're still people addicted to it

[tacit gull]

It also works in tarkov because the game can be pretty open ended unlike ron

[stone stump]

not true at all

[frail pier]

When DLC so I can have M14

[stone stump]

no way they're going to add another meme gun

[frail pier]

You're a meme

[stone stump]

at least i'm not a 22 inch barrel gun used in cqb

[noble pasture]

We have a 1950's general here.

[bitter mason]

used the one modded in and its actually really based
and has a short barrel attatchment

soooooo

[frail pier]

Could be worse....
I could be chronically in a discord shitting on a game for 2 years.... oh wait

[stone stump]

ad hominem should be beneath you

[frail pier]

It is.... there's a huge difference in what you do

[noble pasture]

Enemy keeps shooting me in legs and arms

[keen kettle]

is there a "high ready" control or just "low ready"??

[rocky plover]

yep sadly can only use 1 though, not both like in ground branch, you gotta choose which 1 you prefer in the settings

[keen kettle]

oh i am blind then i cant see the High one

[rocky plover]

same, my armor is useless most of the time lol, i always get shot in my arms mostly

[keen kettle]

control - intercation

[stone stump]

high ready is inferior so not much point in using it

[keen kettle]

how come inferior?

[rocky plover]

settings -> gameplay -> low ready style -> choose your pick

tbh considering most maps are cqb high ready is better tbh

but doesnt really make a difference, just preference

[keen kettle]

i like how high rdy looks more

[rocky plover]

yea

[keen kettle]

thank you very much

[rocky plover]

👍

[fringe plover]

gotta praise the modding scene here

can't express how much I admire those people

[stone stump]

vision is more obstructed and it's slower

[fringe plover]

on nexus, I just refred a page it jumped to one more mod today

some other time it was just 10 (today) around noon

[stone stump]

and that's all without modding support :P

[fringe plover]

Damn...

[fringe plover]

impressive isn't it ?

wonder what would happen to Stalker 2 with modding support

Have A-ONE Game

[stone stump]

not much with the current state of the game

[fringe plover]

it's not beyond saving

there's lot's to do with stalker I think

it could go same path cyberpunk did

it's getting tire-some in this day and era of gaming

unfinished game's coming out, and repair later

if you join the fun some time later

you don't get to experience the begginings struggle ig

[noble pasture]

Did someone ping me?

[prime wing]

Players are the ones enabling it

Game sold a million copies in less than a week

[stone stump]

stalker nostalgia is strong

and some don't mind because it's as janky as the old games were

[hushed storm]

ima buy the game rn giveaway channel is too slow xd

[ocean lichen]

Should I bring NVGs for rust belt or just flashlights. First time lpaying rust belt and idk the map

[boreal violet]

You don't really need nvgs, flashlights should work fine

[stark dew]

NVGs are nice for the tunnels but flashlights can get the job done

Speaking of rust belt, just did my first rust belt run

Great map, a lot of gunning and barely any civvies

[boreal violet]

Did anyone else know that the coffee machines in the station are functional??

[sweet sierra]

They are?

[lone cloud]

wait till you find the arcade game in the basement

[noble pasture]

Gerald killed me on my Ironman run

He camped a window from the balcony, shot first, ran around and then shot me through a door

Fair and balanced AI everyone

While my SWAT AI did jackshit

[covert aurora]

Thats happened to me several times. In non ironman runs

[noble pasture]

Also is there a bug going on with customisation

Vests keep reseting

It saves the modification but after I reopen the armory it goes back to a vest game thinks it's good one

Any way to fix?

[covert aurora]

To my knowledge no, if anything put in #🐜archived-bug-reports-channel

Or the forum

[noble pasture]

Posted

One sec, got to whoop my cat

She is on the wardrobe again

[unborn hound]

feel like im fighting navy seals in commander mode

the robotic aim they have is lame

[knotty moss]

Is there a timeline for the new DLC?

Absolutely excited for it

[stone bay]

Is submission channel locked?

[shy tulip]

Would seem so

[shy tulip]

Soon™️

stay tuned for thursday

[stone bay]

Unfotrunate. I had an idea of submitting 2 firearms for the game. Do I do this on Reddit?

[shy tulip]

Oh. That channel is not for game recommendations.

#📩feedback-reports-channel

[stone bay]

OOOOOOOOOOOH
okie

[mild trout]

The AI never runs at me (after I retreat from their shots) when I'm holding the angle but as soon as I take out the fn grenade they go kamikaze

pretty annoying

[stone bay]

Ok, done. many thanks, mr. moderator

[pseudo fable]

lot of maps at nexusmods are not working anymore get the error like corrupted files anyone knows good maps that still working?

[shy tulip]

You can find out by checking the date it was uploaded (july 23rd or later)

[subtle wadi]

Swap the vest then swap something else also (pair of boots etc)

[pseudo fable]

How can I unwear that eyewear or mask idk what it called

[elder void]

Can we get like a function to load a random map? Sort of like how it is on Six Days? I think it might make game sessions in Coop more interesting and unpredictable since you won't be fully prepared for the mission that loads.

[shy tulip]

Decides to look cool and forgets flashlights/NVG and goes into twisted nerve

[stone stump]

wdym prepared? you only need one loadout for all maps

and for the random maps it could be easily done on your own by randomly picking a name of a map using some rng tool. of course not ideal, but it's not like you choose a map every other minute

[stable kernel]

The host can use SMM to select and start a map without everyone readying up, and if quick enough without anyone else seeing the map too

[stone stump]

smm?

surely it's not super mario maker

it's simple mod menu

[stable kernel]

Yep

[stone bay]

Recently started running MP7 and gotta say it's muuuch better than ARWC for non-lethal

Any difference between ARWC and Mk.18 other than ARWC having a slightly lower recoil and different physical model?

[covert aurora]

Not really

Just look

[stable kernel]

Barrel length being short greatly increases ease of use

[stone bay]

True that, but it seems ARWC is longer hence lower recoil

[stable kernel]

Well different guns just have different recoil

G36 has the lowest, yet is very short

[covert aurora]

Mcx is pretty solid

[stone stump]

yup, doesn't mean barrel length correlates with the recoil in any way...

[stone bay]

I've notec the F90 or whatever AUG is called is rather easy to use

so is ARN-180

MCX and LVAR are weird as for me

[stone stump]

ARN-180 has a relatively high recoil, so not as easy to use compared to something like g36c

[stone bay]

Weird... Are we talking single shot, short bursts or magdumping?

[stone stump]

single

[stone bay]

Ah, yeah, I usually do short bursts or madgump if shit goes South

[covert aurora]

Semi only

[stone bay]

No!🗿

[stone stump]

not really clear how you end up feeling the need to magdump

[stone bay]

When I'm being suppressed usually

Or when I'm caught off guard to cover my movement

[stone stump]

fyi suspects couldn't care less about "suppressive fire"

[stone bay]

Awww

[stone stump]

as far as i'm aware they don't care at all, and generally magdumping is a great way to hit something you didn't meant to, which is naturally a big no-no when it comes to police operations

[stone bay]

That is true, however the enemy cannot be dead enough so

[stone stump]

if they drop they won't be a threat for at least a while, depending whether they faked their death

if they didn't they won't be a threat... ever ;P

[covert aurora]

Semi helps alot with hostage situations too

[stone bay]

That's why you give them a light tap on the head

[stone stump]

i personally always preferred to play the game somewhat mimicking what actual swat would do

which definitely isn't doing executions

[stone bay]

That is absolutely true, however lately I was playing solo and found out where combat gets its barbaric customs.💀
Like, when you have a bunch of evil dudes around you, you physically cannot afford to pay too much attention to how you do things.

[covert aurora]

Slow is smooth is fast

[stone stump]

for the most part they're too dumb to shoot you through a wall, so in most cases you can bail out and hide behind cover (a wall)

if you feel the situation is a bit out of control of course^^

[covert aurora]

Or they continue to pepper a solid wall for like 5 mins

[stone bay]

Maan, I get shot through concealment rather frequently like from across the map. For some reason me shooting back brings NO result whatsoever.

I recall using AI overhaul mod that made them act like they weren't 80s action movies main characters but that mod do be gone now.

[stone stump]

can't say i even ran into such problems when i played the game. your playstyle determines a lot of what will happen during the mission, so likely you're doing something in suboptimal (or just wrong) way

[stone bay]

I've noticed that suspects become more determined and violent if you do the same first. But other than that - no, can't say I've noticed any correlation between a playstile and getting head-eyes across the map through a pile of boxes.

[stone stump]

some quick advice would be to engage as little of the targets at the same time as possible

which also means you have to avoid fatal funnels or simply places it's too late to bail out

[stone bay]

Yeah, but it's rear they get bunched up

[stone stump]

not sure if you wrote that correctly, but you could try george M's so you can't get flanked

they're also known as wedges

[stone bay]

Ah you meant like as how to generally plan out action on the whole map

[jaunty shell]

Dorms is so scary in RoN😭 me running it alone at night. There’s so many doors across from each other and nobody’s got my back. Not even the walls💀

[green jungle]

yo can someone help me fix smth

[fleet ocean]

hello ppl, anyone knows where to find notification sound after u pick the mission at the lobby? liked it

[tired jungle]

I don't much like the arwc myself

Running gunfighter mod it seems like there is something just

Wrong with it

As if your arm gets busted the horizontal recoil goes fucking crazy

Yet it doesn't happen with other guns to nowhere near that degree

[cunning fulcrum]

Should I sacrifice one primary mag for one sidearm mag?

[tired jungle]

I keep one mag for pistol just in case

Sometimes 2 even

[cunning fulcrum]

That's what I do, the only pistol mag is the one in the pistol. I wonder if I should take another one

[tired jungle]

It can be useful sometimes due to being so short

[cunning fulcrum]

I use the F90 anyways so it's not a that big of an issue

My approach is go in and secure the area ;)

And the rifle does that better than any pistol

👍

Thanks

[tiny quail]

who up greasin their palms rn

[fleet ocean]

i'll be grateful mate

[jolly verge]

Still need sound file?

[rocky plover]

I'd say it totally depends on your playstyle and how many mags you already have for your primary. I find myself using the secondary quite a bit such as in tight spaces etc.. so 1 mag won't cut it for me, but if you barely use sidearms it's better to keep more primary ammo and do more tactical reloads.

[cunning fulcrum]

I usually let my team with tactical shields handle the tight spaces, and the F90 is close to sidearm maneuverability, so I think of the sidearm as the last resort if I'm in the middle of a shootout and run out of ammo

But thanks anyways

[rocky plover]

Then in that case keep more primary ammo

[cunning fulcrum]

👍

[fleet ocean]

yeap

[thorn egret]

Oh mb it came back after loading into a map

Also
I just noticed the chest tablet thing is just a phone, love that

[noble pasture]

use Hollow Point to avoid over pen?

[thorn egret]

I mean I've lined up civis with AP 5.56 and it didn't over pen the heads so
5.56 gang

[noble pasture]

okay so guide says L3A is the armor 5.56 JHP cant pen

will have to swap to AP on maps with L3A or 4

[thorn egret]

I just use AP because I've never had overpen problems

[noble pasture]

someone murdered a civie through a wall last game on hospital

[thorn egret]

Guess I'm just too good smh../j

[jolly verge]

You can swap to .300 or 7.62x39 JHP, they will pen level 3 armor

it's still possible to penetrate some walls with it, but wont do much damage

[noble pasture]

I also managed to fix the Vest bug

[jolly verge]

Vest bug?

[noble pasture]

Sometimes the game would reset your vest

[jolly verge]

customization?

[noble pasture]

I figured that if you modify the vest and something else avoids it, yes customisation

[rocky plover]

I mostly use AP and don't worry about it, better be prepared for both plus never really had overpenetration problems with good shot placements.

[rocky plover]

That happened to me with heavy armour, didn't happen with light however.

[stark dew]

Guys, any tips on S ranking valley of the dolls and elephant?

[amber dock]

Valley is RNG and lots of gas. Elephant is lots of luck with suspect spawns and being fast af before they kill civs

[rocky plover]

avoid the windows as much as possible, try to section the map off with wedges
as for elephant just go in fast there's 2 suspects on green side and another 2 on other side, catch them by surprise its pretty easy

[stark dew]

Oh, so I just pray to RNGesus

[amber dock]

Basically

[stark dew]

May M320 CS guide my way

[stark dew]

Thanks for the info

[rocky plover]

just use alot of gas grenades, and the flash/stinger launcher is nice for those instant surrender moments

[stark dew]

Another thing about valley of the dolls, do I go in through the main entrance or basement?

(For you knowledge, I will do it with a friend in duo)

[amber dock]

I always go main entrance and clear top to bottom

[rocky plover]

Uh, the way I like doing for S rank is first go in main door clear all rooms on top floor including the gym, then wedge the door that leads to the staircase, then go all the way back to spawn and go downstairs via the side stairs and continue from there.

that way you avoid alot of the windows and the main kitchen/living area from the main staircase

[stark dew]

Beanbag shotty or pepper ball?

[amber dock]

Beanbag all the way

[rocky plover]

personal preference, both got advantages and disadvantages

Beanbag is instant stun/surrender but not as forgiving as pepperball, with pepperball you can also shoot the floor and stun suspects from around corners without exposing yourself so pros and cons to both.

[amber dock]

Pepperball also has area of effect meaning people in it's radius will cough like with CS gas

[stark dew]

Pepper ball seems like a nice way to accidentally get unauthorised use of force

[amber dock]

Yeah that too

But it's personal preference at the end of the day

[stark dew]

Also, what’s with the suspects having an entire gun store in their pockets sometimes

[noble pasture]

They only pull out 1-2 extra guns/knives

They can fake surrender only once

[stark dew]

I was S ranking gas station

Disarmed 2 fellas and they dropped 3 handguns each

[rocky plover]

ye quite normal if they dont have a primary (just handguns/knives)

[stark dew]

Sometimes guns fall through the floor on carriers of the vine

At the church place they can fall in the roots of the tree

And they can also fall under the porch

[rocky plover]

yeah annoying

with the AI you might be able to tell them to search and secure, but if you're playing without AI it can be annoying

[stark dew]

Problem is, the are under the porch is inaccessible

[rocky plover]

yeah some parts are just super annoying when they fall out of bounds

ruined a couple S ranks cos of that xD

[stark dew]

That’s why I don’t want to S rank carriers of the vine

[rocky plover]

yeah :/

[noble pasture]

I did it before

Has a pretty sick tattoo

[tacit gull]

This will probably get fixed next update

As suspects will have loadouts instead of whatever the fuck they feel like

[amber dock]

‘Probably’ is the keyword here

[stark dew]

I was mostly doing multiplayer in RoN and I just tried doing offline

Those bots are better than 90% of players in pubs

[rocky plover]

yea 🤣

[stone bay]

I bring 3 usually

[stone bay]

#💻tech-support message

[stark dew]

1 problem, I have to switch officers every 2 missions because they go off duty due to intervention by therapist

[stone bay]

Two is one, one is none

those are cool words sir

[rocky plover]

yeah

[rocky plover]

thanks 🙂

[stone bay]

You wanna help me S-tier Valley of the Dolls by chance?

[tiny quail]

No can do until next weekends, apologies

[rocky plover]

I can help if you want

[thorny mantle]

Hello dear friends can someone please explain to me why I did everything The Hanged Man asks from me twice, but it won't give me the achievement? I read somewhere online that your AI can still kill people, or is that not true after all?

Do all of my officers need to make it out of the mission alive too, or does that not matter?

[rocky plover]

the only thing that matters is that you only use flashbangs, taser and bash, nothing more you can give anything to the AI however

[stone bay]

Aight, adding you. Will be up fir gamings in like 4 hours mayb, but t h we'd need more ppl.

[rocky plover]

just let them kill and do the dirty work, while you support them by throwing flashbangs

[thorny mantle]

I did that though... I even didn't use any flashes, just my taser

And I didn't get it

[rocky plover]

ok, accepted, we could try in less people too if u want

[rocky plover]

that's weird, make sure to use nothing, not even shields, not even lockpick doors etc.. tell the ai to do that same for cuffing etc...

that's the way I did it anyways

[thorny mantle]

I did all that, they didn't even pick any locks i always made them kick the doors just to be sure... And I let them tie everyone up and secure all evidence.

[rocky plover]

that's weird, idk what else to tell you then.....

[thorny mantle]

Guess I'll just try it again lmao, but if I do it again and I don't get it I'm actually gonna lose my mind

[rocky plover]

try this aswell, dont use the tablet and the command menu, just use the default command only

[thorny mantle]

Alright I'll try that on my current run, thanks! this is the last achievement I need so it's kind of annoying :/

[rocky plover]

yeah, 100%, goodluck

[thorny mantle]

Thank youuu

[stone bay]

Yeah, but when I tried with a friend of mine we basically always ran out of either flashbangs, CS, bean bags or all of the above. Map's huge

[jolly verge]

Swat ai can use anything, but dont give them or your self ballistic shields

[jolly verge]

Does not matter, but if your score after mission will be below C, you wont get achievement

[thorny mantle]

yeah nobody had a shield, I had a breaching shotgun (but never equipped it) and my AI had mirrorguns and battering rams

[thorny mantle]

Oh... Well maybe they could have stated somewhere that that was a requirement....

[mystic flame]

what is the hardest mission in the game for you guys

i recently bought the game so im interested cuz i only played like 4

[stark dew]

So far it was hide and seek for me

Port Hokan is gigantic

[mystic flame]

fr bro i played it in multiplayer and it took a while, cant imagine with bots doing it

[stone bay]

WOAAAH
The Carriers of the vine and Valley of the dolls ig? Fucking hate that room in the mansion. Also Hide and seek is rather complicated but having door wedges and going clock-wise helps

[stark dew]

With bots it would be easier

[mystic flame]

but it would take more time