👮ron-discussion

[north sage]

The mission would be obviously bring order to chaos, rescue all civilians, maybe locate secret weapon or drug cache in one of the cells

[rocky plover]

that's a nice idea ngl

[north sage]

All of the inmates would have Melee weapons, but the map is extremely tight corners. Since there are civilian inmates who aren't causing harm, it makes it a nightmare to know who the fuck is a suspect or not

Plus, this "DLC" could come with not only a new map, but a new shield called NOVA that has anti-stab protection versus ballistic protection and can taser subjects at close range. On top of that, they can make anti stab vests useful for this mission since you're not dealing with suspects with firearms

[rocky plover]

yeah and to make it harder, you would need to find a keycard like in mindjot to open certain doors (even though you don't really need in mindjot but yeah)

[rocky plover]

true

[north sage]

Ooh, that's the best part. The doors in a jail facility don't have door knobs or even card readers for pod doors specifically.

You don't want an inmate to be able to get a hold of a card and be able to open the pod door to escape

[rocky plover]

so you would need a teammate opening doors on command from the control room XD

[north sage]

Usually the control room has to open those doors. Could be a cool mechanic for the map where the players can radio for control to open doors for them

[rocky plover]

yeah

[north sage]

A map specific gimmick

[rocky plover]

yup

[north sage]

They don't have to go all out like that. It'd be cool as fuck, but honestly I just want a prison mission

I served as a corrections officer for a while, and I had a coworker who was on a CERT team

[rocky plover]

that's a nice idea man ngl

[lunar oracle]

how do i get through the boobytrapped doors in lethal obsesssion?

[rocky plover]

disable traps by peeking doors first or blow it with c2 from far away

[lunar oracle]

thanks

[north sage]

Just breaching shotgun that thang

[lunar oracle]

i nudged into the doors, i wedged every door sides one to not allow em to leave, and im ready with gas lol

[rocky plover]

sadly it's a little risky with the breach shotgun now, since the range was reduced to 3.5m so you have to be very close to the door for the shotgun to work

[north sage]

It still works. You'll be safe, just gotta inch a little closer each shot until it opens

[rocky plover]

yeah

[lunar oracle]

so if i peek it its gonna let me disarm?

[rocky plover]

yup cut it

[north sage]

Ive breach shotgunned a door on that map, had it explode in my face and I was far enough away to not take damage

My rule on that map with friends is nobody touches a door

Had too many encounters where someone gets cocky, swings the door and blows themself up

[lunar oracle]

can i check a door for traps with the mirror gun lol

[north sage]

Yes

[rocky plover]

yeah hahah especially at the start of the mission right at the front door

[north sage]

It's a pretty easy map, 2nd easiest to S rank honestly next to 4u gas

Would be 1st easiest to S rank if you didn't have to bother with all the damn traps

[rocky plover]

before it used to have 2 suspects, now it has 3 which makes it a little but more interesting

[latent zephyr]

hi guys,why modio doesnt work?

i mean i cant run the game with any mod

[north sage]

I remember that. It surprised the hell outta me when I arrested 2 suspects and the mission wasn't over

[rocky plover]

ye same haha

[north sage]

Do you get a crash report or anything?

[latent zephyr]

corrupt data found please verify your installation

and i read some thing on reddit and they tell that i have to uninstall every mod and i did it and it work now,but i want to play with some mods,like better blood or custom maps

[north sage]

Download mods straight from the in game mod list or wait until either the game is patched or the mods are patched

Pretty much all you can do for now

[north sage]

https://youtu.be/zaKb9zqcJ5c?t=180
Me when the suspect is stunned but refuses to drop their gun despite 4 officers yelling at him

[latent zephyr]

i downloaded it from the game,i think i have to wait.Thanks

[north sage]

Alrighty

Flashbangs generally do not cause permanent blindness.

The suspects from my S rank run: 😵

[rocky plover]

can relate haha

[north sage]

Anyone know if they made an actual gameplay difference between the regular nods and the quad nods (GPNVGs)?

[lost inlet]

don't think so, the quad nods still remained as cosmetic for dual nods

[wary quiver]

I just got the game and completed the first 3 levels, anything specifically that I should do in terms of settings or mods for single player?

[sullen glade]

Just got 100% on achievements whoop!

[dusty depot]

So uhhh...my AI guys are wallhacking. They straight up headshot one of the cultist ladies through a wall and mag dumped her with the trigger fire rate of quote "Mach-JESUS". Is that normal?

[simple lintel]

I NEED HELP. I was curious about the "Launch Clean Mods / Save Data." so as I played IT REMOVED MY 100% COMMANDER MODE SAVE I DONT KNOW WHAT TO DO!

(rip my '99 kit i miss you.)

[stable kernel]

MFW you press the launch option for cleaning the save, and it cleans your save

[simple lintel]

clean mods / save data I have the brain of a squirrel

I was fooled because it said save data.

[brisk skiff]

[vital dagger]

can someone help, when i load in a game and then mid way in, it freezes but I have no mods all on low settings and a 1050ti

and other people have the same thing

[stable kernel]

https://discord.com/channels/310075021882294272/1275941842378166333 If you are freezing mid mission check this thread

[vital dagger]

thanks mate

[vale hare]

hey yall, i got another question

You know Gerard's photo of D Platoon?

If one of you guys has the time, how would I go about making D Platoon loadouts and outfits for each of my squad members?

[amber dock]

I’m not sure the outfits on the pics are in game

[vale hare]

I know Judge's is

I can sorta make out King's shirt, and the rest is hard to tell

[leaden warren]

modio is just broken, nexus is better anyways

[mystic stream]

yo, im on home invasion right now, the bot officers wont search and secure the area and I have no idea why I cant exfiltrate. Any pointers to where I can search?

I feel like I secured every nook and cranny already

[leaden warren]

which map are you on?

[mystic stream]

dorms

[leaden warren]

best to just go search everywhere 5x... i ran around the map easily 8 times until i found the last suspect on carrier of the vines

[amber dock]

You’re missing the soft objective. It’s on second floor the prayer altar walk up and stand on it

And report it

[mystic stream]

still missing a suspect or some hidden civilian

[leaden warren]

open tab and look at what youre missing

[mystic stream]

the nr.1 hard objective

[leaden warren]

suspects?

[mystic stream]

to bring order in to chaos

[leaden warren]

yeah watch out theres still a suspect somewhere

[mystic stream]

Sneaky fuck

Im definitely betting on the suspect being clipped in tothe middle of kurdistan

the bots refuse to search the level so its probably that

the devs gotta fix stupid shit like this, happened twice on my first palythrough

[rocky grove]

i've heard armorer only benefits ceramic materials. this has gotta be 🧢, right?

[wet forge]

sometimes I question if its the VOID server shitting themselves, my internet shittting itself or my country having internet network of a 3rd world country doing it.

[frail pier]

P2P btw

[marble juniper]

anyone see any difference between ap and jhp?

[frail pier]

Yes depends on gun and map

Gas station with SA58 will one shot while using JHP to center mass

[marble juniper]

i did notice that 58 doesnt one shot with ap ammo

[frail pier]

Yeah only JHP.

Basically my thought process on ammo

If you're going against targets that JHP can incap with the same amount of bullets as AP to center mass just use JHP. Because at that point you're gaining more limb damage.

Obviously L4 with SA58 JHP is not the move

[tawdry crag]

did not expect traps on lawmaker

shat myself hard

[frail pier]

There is none?

[tawdry crag]

left the daughters bedroom and i fuckin detonated

ohh i have a AI overhaul mod installed that may be why

[frail pier]

Most likely

[marble juniper]

pretty sure you could

[prime wing]

if you find community templates

there is no official support for control right now

[prime wing]

no clue. Isnt there a community template on the ron steam page.

i dont think the default template will work

[hollow citrus]

With Xbox emulator and stuff like that, google bro.

[hollow compass]

hide and seek is the last mission or no? i completed it and no more missions came up

[shut walrus]

yes aside from the 3 dlc

[weary quiver]

After all the anger and frustration, I finally got an 'S' rank on Elephant!

[twin schooner]

holy fgucking shit the wristwatches are animated hloly shit

[wet forge]

btw I just fucking realized why on server enemy AI acts way more aggressive and deadly lol

[wispy cypress]

they are the same

[wet forge]

?

[frail pier]

Let em cook

[bitter mason]

Check the keybindings or play the tutorial

[wet forge]

btw does anyone having issues like loadouts changing on their own?

[plush knoll]

Sometimes my vest changes camos.

[wet forge]

yea like that

but with the gas mask

[stone bay]

when im doing the iron man run. does it matter if i kill civs/suspects or does it have to be s ranks?

[amber dock]

Achievements wise then you have to not fail any objectives

[stone bay]

ok but does it have to be s rank or can i kill suspects?

[frail pier]

That's a lie

[amber dock]

But I’m also pretty sure you have to complete all main objectives to progress to the next map

So you can’t cheese iron man by just shooting anything you see that moves

[frail pier]

Yes you can

[stone bay]

can i do it with my freind?

[amber dock]

No what? Ironman mode is solo

[frail pier]

Death = stress. Take the boys to gas station and S Rank that after you do a level on lethal to bring stress down.

[stone bay]

ive done all S rank thats why im looking at ironman now. Me and my friend did S rank together that also why i was wonering if i coul do it with him

[frail pier]

But like you can't kill too much. On higher suspect levels I had fine officers before going in and had them resign after I finished.

[stone bay]

so i can kill suspects and a few civs but i should avid if i can? and i cant do it multyplayer?

[frail pier]

Kill only one civ. That's all you need to fail to soft complete if you wanna speed through it. If you have HVT civs though I wouldn't. But death even counts for suspects. You can be quick but you can't kill literally everything or you risk your officers resigning.

[stone bay]

so it has to be S rank?

[frail pier]

No

[stone bay]

so do all softs, get civs and can kill suspects?

[frail pier]

You don't need soft objectives. Only main.

[stone bay]

oh ok, killing suspects (guys with guns) is alrt?

[amber dock]

I mean the intended way is to try and arrest them alive but yes you can shoot them

[stone bay]

i spend like 25 hrs doing S rank with my friend. if i have to use the sodding bean bag shot gun again ima shoot my self with it

[frail pier]

Smaller suspect count maps yes. Larger ones I'd try to arrest more than half because you can one shot your officers stress and make him resign with too much death. But again do gas station S a couple times after each lethal run.

[stone bay]

also is there a way I can do iroman without the AI polices or should i have them on my team?

[frail pier]

No. You can make them hold at spawn though

[stone bay]

alrt, how do i arrest half tho? bring taser or smth

or if i keep the AI at spawn can i just kill all armed suspects

[jolly verge]

2 negotiators is the way

[frail pier]

This and flashbangs

[jolly verge]

50% chance that suspect will surrender from yelling

[frail pier]

No

[stone bay]

alrt ill only kill a few then. and I cant do it with my in friend no?

[frail pier]

No

[stone bay]

dam ok. Thanks for all the help

[ivory crystal]

any one got a video on how to get mods?

[mystic stream]

is there a clipping issue on dorms? For the 2nd time in a row bots refuse to search the area and there is civie missing. Fucking hell devs, finish your game before making us pay for this. I cant progress if this happens multiple times in a row!

[bitter mason]

the search and secure order is pretty bugged on every map
ur just gonna have to go around civvie hunting unfortunately

[bitter mason]

I dont have a video, but you're best getting mods from Nexus Mods, and dropping the .pak files into

Program Files (x86)>steam>steamapps>common>ready or not>readyornot>content>paks

(Quicker way to get into the Ready or not folder is to right click the game on your steam library, select properties then installed files and click browse. From there go to the paks folder through "readyornot>content")

Be sure the mods are up to date, if they havent been uploaded or updated after 23rd of July they wont work and the game wont launch

[pine pollen]

Can the suspects see our laser pointer?

[bitter mason]

dont think so
They might yell if they see it but I dont think they get actually alerted or anything

[stone bay]

Questionregarding custom maps:

1. Can we use an AI mod when playing custom maps?
2. Can we play multiple custom maps or are we locked with 1 custom map only?

[tacit gull]

1. You can though i'm unsure how much it affects
2. You can have multiple custom maps installed, but from what i've read some custom maps might conflict

[frail pier]

As far as I know it's only flashlights but I never use flashlights lol.

[stone bay]

Thanks man

[bitter mason]

I pretty much always take a flash light and never had a reason to take a laser lol

[frail pier]

I don't ever use ADS so I just aim by laser

sights = view obstruction

[pine pollen]

You can aim using laser by pressing O right?

[frail pier]

I think that's default bind. But yeah canted aim

[floral bramble]

i just use the switch laser illumination mod to use both if needed

[celest plinth]

One of the most nerdy tryhard things I’ve heard in a good while

[frail pier]

Chill out tactical shooter chad

[celest plinth]

Brother. What

[frail pier]

Brother. What

[limber jacinth]

Do ai react to laser sight??? just want to confirm from you guys..

[umbral oar]

No

[mossy agate]

hush hush or the developers might add that as a feature and make the game even more annoying to play 🤫

[frail pier]

It should be that way anyways

[celest plinth]

Bro my team mate couldn’t even see my laser lmao

[frail pier]

Sounds like a him issue

[native rune]

Gotta look down ma sights when the suspects five feet from me

[echo gazelle]

Question i download a mod via mod.io from the game menu how do i play the downloaded mod?

[native rune]

My main advice is don’t use modio. My secondary advice is if you downloaded the mod from the in game menu then it should already be functioning in game.

[tacit gull]

You download it manually from the mod.io site* or nexus

[echo gazelle]

mod io inside the game

[tacit gull]

doesn't work

[echo gazelle]

what do you mean by that?

[tacit gull]

I mean it literally doesn't work

[native rune]

He means that the thing it’s supposed to do, doesn’t do lol

[echo gazelle]

https://tenor.com/view/bruh-cat-gif-5067414931466166810

bruh

[tacit gull]

You have to install mods manually, even when mod.io did work chances are it didn't load the mods properly

[echo gazelle]

ok

[fervent gale]

Port is so big! I just did my 3rd try and already spent well over an hour

[pine pollen]

Game's being weird right now. The scores aren't showing like usual. Anybody having the exact same issue?

[tacit gull]

Like usual as in?

[stone bay]

man its my 3rd attempt to do sinuous trail and everytime i get ran up on by some adrenaline junkie with a shotgun

[full shore]

Yeah it happens

[astral warren]

use ceramic, steel is really really bad right now because VOID broke how damage is calculated to the player

Especially when it comes to shotguns because of how the damage calculation was broken.

[umbral oar]

lowkey remove the damage cap stop babying us

[astral warren]

The damage cap is necessary for armour to work because of how the math is done, and 70 damage, assuming you have no armour, is more than enough to quickly kill the player, given they only have 160hp.

70 damage being the damage which it is capped to, which used to happen before the armour reduction, but now only applies after if the final number is >70, which I don't think it ever is in most practical situations.

Also if you remove the damage cap ceramic will forever be a direct upgrade to steel, which doesn't seem to be what the developers intended, given how god damn slow you accelerate with steel on.

This IS still a video game, as much as VOID and the player base likes to pretend it isn't. That's why they send only 5 guys to deal with a shooting in a nightclub orchestrated by a known terrorist organization, that'd be really fucking stupid in real life, but that level wouldn't even exist in the game otherwise, because commanding 50 men is a little harder to integrate into gameplay than 4.

Many of the missions would be considered suicidal by many police forces, but that's what makes the game fun to play, because the odds are stacked against you in numbers already, so there's no need to make steel so terrible it lets you die in as little as 4 shots, when ceramic will let you survive at least 5 in the same circumstances, all while slowing you much less from a stand still than steel. The player is already less agile, and far more fragile than the suspects, in addition to being outnumbered, having sub second time to kills for the player when they equip the best armour available just feels awful, frankly.

[umbral oar]

🤯

[frail pier]

You still tank an obnoxious amount of damage. But I agree steel is just dumb to use currently.

[wanton marlin]

bro does anybody have any tips for valley of the dolls s rank i cant do this shit 😭

[acoustic ridge]

i like the sub second ttk for players, you need either good tactics or good reaction time, you cant really afford to get caught lacking

[open hinge]

Is it better to play the campaign first or does it not really matter for new players

[olive aurora]

you mean commander mode? i'd say play it.. why not? it's fun

[open hinge]

is that the main mode? or would the main thing everyone plays be the mp

[olive aurora]

i personally don't play multiplayer

i've just started playing this recently, commander mode seems like the best thing to start with

[frail pier]

Wedge, gas, beanbag. Don't take stairwell where poolside has LOS.

[tacit gull]

I'd recommend playing quick play over commander personally

[acoustic ridge]

i started out finishing most of the quickplay/practice mode missions with ai

[open hinge]

kinda dumb but how would one play quick play lol

oh nvm

[acoustic ridge]

iirc click singleplayer, then quickplay
shoukd lod u into station

[open hinge]

im used to qp being associated with mp so I didn't realize it'd be in sp

[acoustic ridge]

quickplay is singleplayer with ai, the multiplayer "quickplay" is public lobbies (they generally just have everyone run in and die)

[tacit gull]

It's either the public lobby runs in and dies across the level or the AI pushes into rooms backwards and dies to a single suspect

Pick your poison, pick commander if you enjoy meaningless perks and loading screens

[stable kernel]

I would recommend seeking out a unit if you intend to play multiplayer a lot #📌unit-promo

A good group is a game changer

[frail pier]

Multiplayer public lobbies are like this:

5% of the time people actually play the game the way its intended.

15% it's dudes running in and dying

80% you keep joining Watchman

[acoustic ridge]

i prefer playing in small groups (2-3 man squad)
more fun and better communication than everyone in a 5 player lobby shouting at eachother

[open hinge]

says invalid invite

[stable kernel]

It's a channel link within the server. Agree to the rules and the bot will give you the officer role

[prime wing]

which server has the invalid invite?

[open hinge]

I already agreed im pretty suire

tactical folks

[prime wing]

will have to let the recruiter know about it

gonna check

odd

links works for me

[stable kernel]

Ah yes I am a member there. We were having a link issue, but it seems to be on Discord's end

Sometimes it works sometimes it doesn't

It's a static custom link so idk what the issue is

[amber dock]

Good evening EMAN

[stable kernel]

Hello

[acoustic ridge]

i just hard completed 23mb even after acicidently killing michaels brother?

how does that work lol

[frail pier]

Did you fail the rescue civs obj?

[stable kernel]

Incap does not fail the objective

I am not legally allowed to disclose how I know this

[frail pier]

Oh I will lol. It's way quicker to incap and restrain than it is to normally restrain

[livid fulcrum]

Don’t mind me. Just putting another hope for female officers on the pile of hopes for female officers. 🫳

[shy tulip]

This is not a suggestions channel #1050529506022137876

[bitter mason]

Pretty sure void said they did want to add female officers...
they uhh never really did I suppose

[prime wing]

they want to, it just wasnt a priority at the game

which makes sense

[amber dock]

Still is not imo with the issues game still has

[prime wing]

its bottom of the barrel

priority

[hot lava]

in neon tomb anyone ever get a voice line when arresting a civilian that sounded like jacksepticeye

[wild slate]

Um weird to ask but I'm new to RoN and I'm Asking myself how to blow up C2, so I place it but idk what to do after that can someone help?

[amber dock]

Once you place it your character will hold a detonator just press left mouse button by default

[prime wing]

be careful if you are holding the remote rn lmao

[cinder fiber]

anyone know why I only have 6 missions to play in the commander mode, yet I get more in quickplay?

[wild slate]

Yea that's the issue when I place it it takes another C2 in the Hand and not have a Detonator

[amber dock]

Because commander mode you have to progress through missions

[cinder fiber]

as in play all of them?

[wild slate]

You gotta do all objectives in all missions to unlock all 18

[amber dock]

No you have to finish the latest one meaning the one at the bottom of the list

[wild slate]

Exactly

[amber dock]

Press 4

[wild slate]

Okey imma try that, not rn cause it's 2a.m for me sooo imma head to sleep gn

[stable kernel]

Pretty sure it’s on 6 or 5 not 4

6 I think has the multi tool and detonator if you have one

[wanton marlin]

any tips for s rank relapse?

specifically the bridge portion

[half edge]

which entrance are you starting on?

[wanton marlin]

underground parking garage

all my mf squadmates will be chilling then everyone gets injured when we cross the bridge

cant do anything cuz these mfs keep shooting from far away windows

n we got straight pea shooters

[jolly cape]

How am I meant to do missions in Commander mode if my team members go into "crisis" mode after one mission lmao

0 civ deaths and like 2 perp deaths

[umbral oar]

which mission

[jolly cape]

the 2nd one at the apartment complex with the streamer

[shy tulip]

bro must've replayed gas over and over killing* everyone

[jolly cape]

Got an A on the mission

[jolly cape]

hahahaha no I'm not even that far in on Commander mode

[shy tulip]

Gas is the very first mission

[jolly cape]

remember, no Russian.

[shy tulip]

But you are going to struggle to keep your team as long as you play to just execute everyone, there aren't any major issues down the line besides just having to constantly rehire SWAT and never have access to their skills.

[jolly cape]

I only played that mission once and got a C

I don't think I even killed anyone that mission tbh

They were all Anxious after that one but then I did the 2nd one and now one is in therapy and 3 of them are in crisis

[shy tulip]

If you got a C, then people indeed were killed

[jolly cape]

Oh actually yeah I think a civ was accidentally killed during that one

Is there a way to restart commander mode?

[wanton marlin]

u gotta make a new save

[jolly cape]

ah okay

oh well. lmfao

[native rune]

You got a C and you’re not sure if anyone was killed

[jolly cape]

[half edge]

I'd recommend going main entrance

The angles on the bridge coming from parking is terrible

If you're set on going underground way, when you get to the bridge just shoot out all the glass. It's nigh impossible to see any baddies in the room otherwise

[wanton marlin]

just got it, thanks for the tip. i ended up going underground and kept a close eye on my teammates since they were the main reason i kept failing

[bronze grove]

Guys i need tips for greased palms, warehouse part is hard af

I already lost one officer because the ai is just cracked

[shadow sedge]

What mission is that again?

[bronze grove]

Postal service

[shadow sedge]

Ohhh

I can help you beat the game

[bronze grove]

Sure

I think i might just use the sa 58 cuz im done playing nice

[shadow sedge]

Hide & seek is worse

[bronze grove]

I dread reaching it

[jolly cape]

hahahaha

[shadow sedge]

Relapse is easy

[bronze grove]

The hospital one ?

[shadow sedge]

Yup

[native gazelle]

what should i do to arrest a suspect with a gun? i dont like running sandbags

[native gazelle]

that mission is painful indeed i found it easiest to go outside first tbh

[stone bay]

how in the actual fuck do i do the greased palms mission

[native gazelle]

postal one?

[stone bay]

very unrealistic for a 5 man SWAT team to clear out a building that big

[stone bay]

yes

[wanton marlin]

throw flashbangs everywhere

[native gazelle]

i just gave up on going for ratings and shot on site try going outside to the trucks first thats what i did

[wanton marlin]

trust

[stone bay]

ive done that, hasn’t helped me any, even tried using gas

[wanton marlin]

o

[native gazelle]

theres a few ramps over the conveyor belts that u can get a few easy kills through the gaps between stairs aswell

[stone bay]

i just get laser beamed every time i go into the main facility

[native gazelle]

and u can also send ai to clear i did that and they merked atleast 6 people

[stone bay]

i mean realistically they’d be sending in at least 20-30 guys to clear that entire building not just 5

[native gazelle]

true but u feel more gangster doing it as a 5 man team

[stone bay]

ive even gone to using a scope and sniping everybody but it just doesnt make sense

[stone bay]

i do not feel gangster when i get gang banged from 4 different angles through boxes and metal sheeting that i cant even see through with full auto fire💀

like at this point just give me a M32A1 grenade launcher

[native gazelle]

i think everyone hates that map

[stone bay]

i can see why

[native gazelle]

trust me and just send ai to clear

[stone bay]

makes me wanna merk every civ and suspect

[native gazelle]

2 of my guys died but i did the mission

no shame in downloading cheats to get it done aswell

[shadow sedge]

@stone bay I can help you beat the game

[stone bay]

theres obviously a way to do it people get S rank on that mission

[shadow sedge]

If you’re available tomorrow

[native gazelle]

people who get s rank on that should just be drafted atp

need to be smoking something to see through all them boxe

[shadow sedge]

Nah

Just look for a suit

[native gazelle]

but actually tho how can i make people surrender without using non lethal cause thats boring

[stone bay]

yea thatd be easy if i didnt get beamed through 4 different rows of boxes and a sheet metal box

[stone bay]

its called incapacitating, non lethal shots

[native gazelle]

oh so just like arm and leg shots?

[stone bay]

i mean body shots can also be non lethal

[shadow sedge]

Nah

[stone bay]

i shot a dude’s scalp off and he survived but that was the only part of him i could see

[shadow sedge]

Use flashbangs

[stone bay]

flashbangs or gas

[shadow sedge]

And keep spamming F and hope that they drop their weapon

[stone bay]

the beanbag shotgun is fun to use as well

[native gazelle]

alright thanks i dont like using beanbag shotgun maybe im js a masochist tho

[stone bay]

i don’t think i’ve had one person keep trying to fight after the beanbag

[stone bay]

sadist is the term you are looking for, masochists like pain on themselves

[native gazelle]

imagine ready or not with a good vr port

[native gazelle]

OH 💀

[stone bay]

and a beanbag shotgun hurts

they break ribs in real life, can also be lethal if its a headshot

[shadow sedge]

Does anyone else here play on NA?

[umbral oar]

Yah

[stone bay]

i do but ive been playing the campaign

[shadow sedge]

Same I started off as a alone nugget

[native gazelle]

honestly tho this game is crazy good doing that first mission i didnt know how to feel

[shadow sedge]

I’ve been looking for a group ever since

[stone bay]

yea i wanna beat the campaign before i do multiplayer

[shadow sedge]

Enjoy campaign btw

[stone bay]

which is why greased palms has me so infuriated, ive been doing it on practice because i don’t want all my guys to get in crisis mode

[shadow sedge]

The game alone is fun

But with friends it’s like even more entertaining it makes ready or not more ready🥶🥶

[native gazelle]

what do the states actually do? i just never gave any notice to it

[stone bay]

wym?

as in an actual swat team?

[native gazelle]

sorry might be mid conversation interpretating it wrong i thought u was on about the mental states of the guys at the end of each mission

[stone bay]

oh that im not entirely sure of i think it makes them more likely to make mistakes or shoot civilians if i had to guess

[native gazelle]

ahh ive shot through hostages to get kills so 🤷‍♂️

[shadow sedge]

Bro what☠️

[jolly cape]

lol was the lethal obsession mission inspired by ruby ridge

[shadow sedge]

Isn’t that the hotel one?

[native gazelle]

nobodys safe when im around

[stone bay]

i just get the head tap its not hard

[jolly cape]

no its the cabin in the middle of the woods

[shadow sedge]

Ohhh the traps were annoying when I just started playing

[native gazelle]

i couldnt hit the broad side of a barn its their fault for getting grabbed imo

[shadow sedge]

Always mirror doors

[stone bay]

actually i never thought of that it seems likely

[native gazelle]

i love the mirror gun

[jolly cape]

it looks like the FBI helo pic of the ruby ridge cabin

[shadow sedge]

Game changer

[stone bay]

lethal obsession is actually such a good mission

[jolly cape]

im about to play it rn

[shadow sedge]

The only issue I have with it

Is how there are only four hostiles or less

[silk junco]

skibidi

[shadow sedge]

Real

[stone bay]

my first lethal obsession run was funny as fuck i had the guys put c2 on a door knowing it was trapped and got them all blown up

[jolly cape]

LMFAO

[native gazelle]

this game is definitely a psyop to add people to watchlists ngl

[shadow sedge]

I opened it without thinking anything would happen

[stone bay]

nawl

[jolly cape]

im prob already on a watchlist anyways for my political beliefs

[shadow sedge]

ever since I‘ve started using the Ais as bait

[stone bay]

yea i didnt think the explosion was gonna be that big

[shadow sedge]

Than I learned that you can disarm the traps

[stone bay]

then the screen shook and 2 of my guys were fucking flatlined

[jolly cape]

hahahahaha

[native gazelle]

I live in the uk so my door will probably be kicked in any minute cause of the riots

[stone bay]

i just put c2 on every door and backed up, had my ppl stay outside

[jolly cape]

Kaboom

[shadow sedge]

the AIs sometimes give away your element of surprise

[stone bay]

yea yall got some wild shit going on there right now honestly kinda scary

[shadow sedge]

even when the door isn’t open they yell “DROP THE ***”

[native gazelle]

i broke a keyboard learning that doors can be trapped

[stone bay]

thats true but i just yeet flash bangs and gas everywhere anyway

[stone bay]

my entire team was standing around this guy who was on the floor bleeding out from gunshot wounds just yelling “ON YOUR KNEES HANDS ON YOUR HEAD PUT THE FUCKING GUN DOWN”

[native gazelle]

someone got 2 years for commenting on facebook when there is people calling themselves the MDL which is mocking a racist english group called EDL which hasnt been about for 10ish years

but im not gonna get political

they were walking the streets with machetes and samurai swords forgot to add

[shadow sedge]

Reasonable🥶

the Dorms mission is fun

[stone bay]

ill get there after i throw these 7 CS gas grenades everywhere and just shoot every suspect on sight during greased palms

wish you could go into the cells and beat up some of these guys

[jolly cape]

oops

i always hs the pdfile in the spider mission lol

[shadow sedge]

Elephant is a bit annoying though

[untold mango]

quick question can you get achievements in multiplayer

[shadow sedge]

I’m not sure

[shy tulip]

Yes, but it may be buggy and only give to the host

[untold mango]

that’s fine I assume that will be patched at some point

hopefully soon lmao

[jolly cape]

would be so sick if there was a drone option for tactical equipment

[stone bay]

it actually would, and if it gave you an option to drop tear gas or a flash

problem with drones is that theyre loud though

[stone slate]

fr

[jolly cape]

yeah thats true

even just for recce purposes

[stone bay]

also would be cool if some of the AI surrended after watching their home boy getting merked by the police

[jolly cape]

WHHRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

[jolly cape]

would be more realistic too lol

[untold mango]

I suppose that would depend on the type of suspect you’re dealing with

[stone bay]

yea itd have to be a rng thing

ive also noticed that some civilians wont surrender if you are by yourself, but if your squad shows up they will

[untold mango]

Yea I’ve noticed that too hence why I pepper spray them and bash them in the face if they don’t

[jolly cape]

i think its so funny when a civ pulls their phone out to start filming you when you're trying to detain them

[stone bay]

they do that? i haven’t seen that yet

i had one guy say “this is police brutality” one time

[untold mango]

tbf not unrealistic at all lol

[jolly cape]

yes its happened to me almost every single mission, at least once.

[stable kernel]

Suspects are capable of doing it too btw, but it’s disabled without a mod

Think about that one

[jolly cape]

lmfao

[untold mango]

they’re just asking for a bullet to the mouth at that point

[stone bay]

i’m still surprised i had a suspect survive a headshot one time that was probably the craziest thing ive seen so far

basically scalped him

[stone bay]

thats hilarious

[bitter mason]

Astral's AI makes it so the FBI guy on greased palms can flash a badge

[untold mango]

I think the craziest interaction I had was on port and the suspect just fell over after I thought I shot him then just punches me on the mouth

[bitter mason]

an animation that seemingly goes unused currently. Never seen it in the vanilla game

[stable kernel]

Yeah that’s a disabled animation anyone can do

[stone bay]

[bitter mason]

we really need that living detective added to dealer. He literally has voice lines, hes in the breifings and theres that badge animation perfect for him but he just doesnt exist

[stone bay]

fuck that fbi guy imma body him when i try that mission again

ive also been wondering can you make blue team breach and clear a room at the same time you make red team do so?

[bitter mason]

yeah

[untold mango]

that’s taught in the tutorial, no?

[bitter mason]

queue commands and order gold to execute

[jolly cape]

yes, use L shift to queue up one team, same with the other and then use z as gold team to command them both to execute in sync

[stone bay]

ahhhh okay okay

[jolly cape]

ya

[stone bay]

maybe i missed it in the tutorial i was too focused on learning controls tbf

[jolly cape]

LMAO i just kicked a door down on the left behind mission and got instantly killed because it was trapped and i didnt check the door

[boreal fossil]

what key do people generally set for "yell for compliance" because i cant stand yelling "PUT YOUR HANDS UP" at an inanimate object

[jolly cape]

mine is just default F

[native rune]

Mine is set to space bar so it’s separate from my interact key

[boreal fossil]

ive got high ready as space bar 🤷

would use left shift but left shift for me is walking

[native rune]

My high ready is toggled with capslock

[shy tulip]

horrific

[forest lichen]

hi

i need some help with my game, graphical issue and i don't know what's causing it

[boreal fossil]

you might wanna explain what it is
#💻tech-support

[forest lichen]

i don't know how to explain it but thanks

[boreal fossil]

does anyone know if its possible to set keybinds that are required to be held?

[umbral oar]

my shout is on m,ouse4

[acoustic ridge]

my spacebar is interact
shift is low ready
f is shout
high ready isnt binded

[jolly cape]

loool no idea but i'll give it a try

[acoustic ridge]

yeah u can

[thorn tangle]

anyone wana play a couple missions?

[bronze grove]

I'll be on in like an hour

Which missions you wanna play ?

[thorn tangle]

i wana try get a higher rank on hide and seek rn

[bronze grove]

Oh

I havent gotten that far in the campaign

I hear it's pretty hard though

[thorn tangle]

yeah

ive got s on almost every level

[pine pollen]

Is the M5B optic based on an Aimpoint product?

[forest lichen]

Aimpoint Comp M5B yes

[undone mica]

Say guys

Whats your normal fps and what card do you use

[true ocean]

bro i hate this game like why do i die in 2 shots in cod its nothing like this

[this is rage bait]

[boreal fossil]

was Carriers of the Vine renamed to something else?

[forest lichen]

same name

[boreal fossil]

I can't seem to find it in the mission selection

[forest lichen]

have you completed Buy Cheap Buy Twice

[boreal fossil]

I'm on quick play so all missions are available

[forest lichen]

uh

[boreal fossil]

or am I wrong and its multiplayer that has all available

[forest lichen]

that's not the case for me even

you still gotta do the missions before to unlock them

yeah it's multiplayer only

[boreal fossil]

ok it is multiplayer that has them all

[stone bay]

anyone got any tips on elephant?

[tacit gull]

walk forward and pray you find the shooters in time

[bronze grove]

I'm so fucking done with the suspects on greased palms

Mfs see a pixel of you and just start blasting

By the time i figure out where shots are coming from im dead

[stone bay]

Once they start shooting slowly back out

8/10 times it works so that u dont get shot

[bronze grove]

I was at the back of the building arresting some civilian, not even a second later i see shots coming at me and i'm instantly dead

Imma use the sa58 fuck these guys

[lean wasp]

Why is it that the last suspect, on stock AI settings, will be the one with godlike aim?

That's where most of my lone wolf deaths happen, from a suspect far away that one taps my head, and it turns out they're the last one

[tacit gull]

Because the last suspect is always programmed to charge you and know where you are before they run into you

It's incredibly obnoxious

[lean wasp]

That's very unrealistic

[tacit gull]

On top of that you have the very cool "stress" system which means every time you make any kind of noise suspects will react faster to seeing you

[lean wasp]

In a real life situation, if the suspect is the last guy, usually they will be so very demoralized that they will tend to surrender, instead of try to die fighting

[lean wasp]

That's, also psychologically wrong. Their tendency to react with more extreme measures under stress, that's understandable. But with faster reaction speeds? I don't think so

[tacit gull]

Idk if its exactly faster reaction speeds i think they just start aiming at doors

Either way, yes

[lean wasp]

I totally understand aiming at doors they think I will come from, as well as pre-fire if they're very stressed

But I don't think you can quick aim and blow my head off from a distance

It seems no AI mod can fix that behavior either.

[tacit gull]

The AI sure doesn't mind doing it

[tacit gull]

I'm unsure, my favorite AI mod is astral's AI, but i don't know if it changes stress values or fixes that last suspect bullshit

[lean wasp]

I used the "One Shot Away" AI mod which I thought was pretty realistic, up until I tried Port Hokan, where the Russian suspects started full auto-ing me from 100 meters and every shot landing

I said "no way in hell can you full auto at 100m and consistently hit while standing. Only doable if proned and you have your gun on a bipod"

[tacit gull]

From personal experience the port russians can't hit the broadside of a barn with the default AI settings across the map

[lean wasp]

Yeah I went back to stock AI to clear it

I've also got full auto'd to death while a suspect was flinching, and the gun was ostensibly pointed to their sides to recover from the flinch

[bronze grove]

Are there any mods that make the ai more tame and have reasonable reaction time ?

[tacit gull]

Yeah, there are some out there

[bronze grove]

This shit is just unbearable at this point

[bronze grove]

Names of the mods ?

[tacit gull]

Well if you just want an easier time there's no crack for ai

[bronze grove]

Aight

[tacit gull]

There's also ready or not here i come AI pack which is very nice

[lean wasp]

No crack was goated pre-5.3

[tacit gull]

And then there's the super tasteful astral's AI

[bronze grove]

Bots on greased palms are annoying as fuck

[tacit gull]

Right now they shouldn't even be that bad

[lean wasp]

Yeah greased palms is another torturous map

Suppressors and taking it really slow wins there because of this weird stress system

[bronze grove]

Reaction time of 0.100 ms plus aimbot is outrageous

[tacit gull]

The reaction time now plus the touched on targeting system make them pretty fair right now

[bronze grove]

These are supposed to be cartel and gang members not fucking seal team six

[tacit gull]

Try the release AI where they could see you through actual pixel wide holes and their bullets were unaffected by cover dealing full damage

[lean wasp]

Meanwhile I just blew a suspect's arm off with 2 .300 BLK FMJ shots. Wild

[bronze grove]

Imma go crazy if i try s rank on this map

[lean wasp]

Funny how Void keeps promising to refine AI, but it rremains unrealistic at the end of the day

This game can only hope to have AI like SWAT 4

[bronze grove]

All of the ai in this game are on meth

[tacit gull]

Honestly ignoring all of the terrible mechanics behind the AI, the values they're assigned alone are baffling and i don't understand why they haven't been touched on

[lean wasp]

You'd think that with Void actually talking to real life SWAT operatives, they'd do some statistics on suspect behavior based on personal accounts with real life situations and gather something that represents reality

Imma try Astral's AI Hardcore and see how it is

[tacit gull]

Enemies with gas masks don't have gas immunity, AI with armor on their model don't have armor assigned and vice versa, they can have armor WITHOUT any on their model, there's ONE suspect in the game that has immunity to gas for whatever reason, etc.

I don't even think this is about consulting, i think theese are very clearly just not looked at AT ALL

[lean wasp]

Yeah it baffles me how I'd shoot a suspect that clearly looks like they don't wear armor and it'd take 3 JHP 5.56 shots to take em down

[tacit gull]

Then you also have maps with hiding spots that go unused because for some reason the AI is told NOT to use any of them

Even though they did in the past and it was really good

[bronze grove]

I lost 2 more officers on greased palms and the rest all have high stress

[tacit gull]

play quickplay

[bronze grove]

If i finish it there i still unlock the next one right ?

[tacit gull]

Yes, commander mode is just terrible

You get progress and achievements and everything

[bronze grove]

Alright

[lean wasp]

Yeah I just open a friends only server and play solo

[tacit gull]

quickplay has this revolutionary feature called the restart button

[bronze grove]

Do officers have stress in quickplay ?

[tacit gull]

No

[bronze grove]

Thank god

[tacit gull]

No stress, no useless perks, no waiting in the mission end screen to see the 2 hour long animations of the text fading in

[bronze grove]

I barely kill one mf and all of them want to retire

[tacit gull]

And you only get one loading screen if you fail

[bronze grove]

Imma ditch commander mode

[tacit gull]

I would only really play it if you wanna do the permadeath achivs

Personally i'm dodging it untill it's completely redone

[bronze grove]

Atleast mistaking a civi for suspect and magdumping them is still fun

Also why do they pull out their phones so aggresively like that

[tacit gull]

so they bait you into shooting them untill you learn the animation

[bronze grove]

Moment i see them reaching for something i just magdump

No questions asked just magdump

[lean wasp]

@tacit gull seems like astral's AI makes suspects flinch in pain when getting a door kicked into them. That's tasteful

[tacit gull]

Did they stop doing that in the base game? I never even noticed

[lean wasp]

Yeah. kicking a door with a suspect behind it means you will get sprayed and die

[tacit gull]

Awesome

[lean wasp]

Does astral mod revamp player health?

[tacit gull]

I'm unsure

It does change suspect weapons though, like a lot

[frail pier]

Ahh I didn't know if it was just stress peaking or that's what it was.

[tacit gull]

Same with civilians, last civvie will seek you out

Instead of actually making it dynamic and cool

[frail pier]

Wait actually? I've seen civs charge at me and seek me out but not the last ones.

Elephant happens often

[tacit gull]

Some charge you normally but the last one will go out of their way to

[frail pier]

Ahh good to know

I'm trying to get sub 5min S on lawmaker. I don't think I had any civs charging at me during that though. Is it only when they're on knees or standing? Do they leave the surrendered state to seek you out?

[tacit gull]

They can only move around when they're on their feet, but they can get out of surrender with a really long animation

Though if they're already surrendered it gets super annoying as they most likely won't get up and they won't shout after you if you ask for compliance

[frail pier]

Ahh I see... I really wish the "Move to the exit" wasn't a small radius to actually call them in.

I've noticed issues too with move to exit and they just don't fucking listen either.

[tacit gull]

Move to exit can just cause you to spend extra time searching for them, not worth it, broken feature

Also super stupid feature since you can't issue it to suspects, so getting surprised by suspects looking like civilians isn't a thing

[frail pier]

I've had them go just fine for the most part. It's only when you gotta command them 10 times to actually go to the exit. But you have to get in the small radius of the exfil spot for the civs to actually be reported.

[frail pier]

True...

[tacit gull]

Nah, normally the civilians should just pathfind to the entry point and get auto arrested and reported aswell

The problem is that they rarely do, they either get stuck on walls, refuse to get arrested at the entry point and become super hostile or they just get stuck on the player

[frail pier]

But it's a radius. I was testing it out earlier. That's why S speedruns you can only do it when they're close enough to the exfil spot so in that radius. If you send a civ on gas station from Cafe you won't get them reported until you go back past the clerk desk in the store part.

[tacit gull]

If that's really the case that's the dumbest thing i've heard about this game yet

Or rather it might be a limitation of how the AI exists outside of player view

[frail pier]

Try it man. It's actually painful because it just causes so much back tracking for it to count. "Officers are outside leave the area" which is a lie if I have to walk all the way back for it to count.

[frail pier]

Could be that

I mean you can have suspects popping in and out on bigger maps. So that actually makes sense. Didn't think about that

[tacit gull]

Still, i don't think it would have been that hard to implement a workaround, if the AI moves out of range and their last action was move to exit then just remove them from the map and count them as reported

[lean wasp]

Using suppressors really make the game substantially easier to play

Doesn't make any sense. You'd think a lot of gunshots going off would stress suspects off and intimidate them, not make them more aggressive

[tacit gull]

welcome to ready or not

[lean wasp]

Yeah I may grab SWAT 4 and enjoy that again if no AI modder can radically revise AI behavior

[tacit gull]

Most likely nobody will without the SDK, it would be a massive undertaking while having limited knowledge of this insane spaghetti AI code

[lean wasp]

Does void have any plan to release an SDK?

[tacit gull]

They want to

[lean wasp]

The devs of Ground Branch develops their game at a much, much slower pace, and they have released an SDK already

[frail pier]

Supposedly

[tacit gull]

no potential date or time period given ever

[frail pier]

[tacit gull]

"Oh it's a good idea to get the game to 1.0 first so we have good foundations for it first"

1.0 comes and goes, game is still a mess and SDK is still in the air

[frail pier]

1.0 sold copies. I'm not too familiar with how much money they made but I think that was more a financial decision. But idk shit about them. That's just a guess.

[lean wasp]

This paradigm of releasing a half-baked game is fuckin annoying

[frail pier]

It's not even surprising anymore. A lot of studios do it.

[lean wasp]

I know. CDPR was the most notorious with CP2077

[tacit gull]

Personally i feel that 1.0 release was an even bigger punch in the mouth than the PVP reveal

[lean wasp]

Then every other studio said "fuck it, that makes money. Let's do it"

[tacit gull]

Looks like i'm still here though so oh well

[frail pier]

I mean look where cyberpunk is now. The game is way better. Still has issues sure but what game doesn't?

[tacit gull]

Cyberpunk only bounced back because of the smart marketing with edgerunners, the release build is basically a pre-alpha compared to what it looks like now

[lean wasp]

Because of Edgerunners, and the extreme backlash they got from their gamer base

If their gamer base wasn't as angry, it probably would have taken a lot longer to polish 2077 out

[tacit gull]

If their playerbase ate it up i don't think they would have polished it at all

[frail pier]

I guess that's a fair statement. Sucks it only went for 1 season though🥲

Really mad how they did Rebecca. Twas actually fucked

[lean wasp]

@tacit gull AI mod didn't fix the last suspect rushing and tapping my head off

[tacit gull]

RIP

[lean wasp]

Guess that's hard-coded behavior

[frail pier]

What its like to chew 5 gum

[shadow sedge]

Does anyone here on NA need help on a mission or wants to play home invasion?

Or just wanna play for fun

[frail pier]

Wanna compete for S Rank Duo leaderboard?

[lean wasp]

Nah I'm gonna Ground Branch. This last suspect having stupid aim and reaction time has sent me over the moon

[shadow sedge]

Sure

[frail pier]

I'll DM

[shadow sedge]

You NA aswell? @frail pier 😔🥺

[frail pier]

Yea

[shadow sedge]

Ok good 🥶

[pine pollen]

90-120, RX 6600

No FSR, but I usually use the balanced preset with 130-180 FPS on 1080P

[mystic stream]

yo, anyone else think that ready or not has a huge lack of content? Especially for a game over 10$?

[amber dock]

[shadow sedge]

Does anyone here play on EU?

[silk junco]

no but a game over 12 dollars is yikes..

[shadow sedge]

@bronze grove is looking for somebody to play greased palms with

[urban walrus]

Well, GB is also under dev way longer than RON (in dev since 2007), like they have already in dev for ~9 years (2016) when RON was just in its conceptual stage.

[lone cloud]

2007? actually?

[urban walrus]

It was annouced in 2007

[amber dock]

Old ass game

[silk junco]

im old? 🥹

[verbal surge]

yes, old ass

[amber dock]

Not you silly, the game ground branch

[silk junco]

wooow ok

[stable kernel]

[amber dock]

I mean you are still old

[amber dock]

EMAN

[lean wasp]

@tacit gull think I might hve found an AI mod that tones down the reaction time at least even for the last suspect to something manageable

Ironically it's called SWAT 4 AI mod

[lone cloud]

crazy

[sturdy atlas]

games buggin

i got friendly fire when the flash i threw wasnt in their sight

[fair dune]

bruh u got into a lobby with 10 people

how does that happen lol i only got a mod to change blood textures

[amber dock]

Other people have diff mods that can enable that

[fading pumice]

How come none of the mod.io stuff I download is showing up?

[jolly cape]

dude the AI on release were insane

[stone bay]

Early ai made john wick look like an amateur

[lone cloud]

dont use mod.io its terrible. use nexus mods

[fading pumice]

Oh okay sweet thanks

[jolly cape]

I think the first mission I ever played on release was the two building meth house one, and I could never make it past the first floor living room because all the AI would rush and clap my entire squad lol

[stone bay]

That was the first mission I played too, then hokan. Ironically I picked the game up at just about the tail end of my drug use and spent literal days just grinding out missions till I could do them alone with fallujah ai..dont do drugs kids you'll waste your life lol

[jolly cape]

drugs are bad mmmmmkay

https://tenor.com/view/drugs-are-bad-drugs-mkay-south-park-gif-4499796

[stone bay]

Too expensive in a few different ways

[jolly cape]

I use jazz cabbage but it's either that or taking a bunch of prescription meds to help me fall asleep at night so

[robust shadow]

Any idea if or when the game will get a console release?

[dapper zephyr]

a new mission isnt getting unlocked even though ive completed all the ones i have

[bronze grove]

Game's got a shitload of keybinds, it's possible to have most of the stuff mapped but it'll be pretty hard

Also this game is essentially just fps dark souls with how hard and challenging it is and since most console players are casuals it might not appeal to them so there isnt much point in a console release

Imo a console release is possible but unlikely

[stark pendant]

to get the gold dev watch i need to be on ironman mode, right?

commander with ironman enabled

[bronze grove]

Idk check the wiki or reddit

[stark pendant]

yh i currently struggle with getting past ides of march going non lethal. i have ballistic mask and full heavy ceramic armor on every1 i always either die, have one officer die or i forget abt the 1 and only trapped door and die to it

[bronze grove]

You on commander mode ?

[stark pendant]

yh

[bronze grove]

Oh

[stark pendant]

why

[bronze grove]

For trapped Doors just check every time before opening

[bronze grove]

Nah it just kind of sucks imo

[stark pendant]

it says complete on permadeath mode which one is that

[bronze grove]

Ironman mode

[stark pendant]

whats the difference even? i never bothered to check the other 2 tbh

[stark pendant]

fuck so my 4 missions progress was pointless.

[robust shadow]

That is like saying PC players are more serious just because they play on PC which is rubbish there are plenty of console players who play the limited number of tactical games we have seriously

[stark pendant]

fr tho i plan on getting S on every mission on permadeath commander mode. not just going for the watch.

[shadow sedge]

NA server user?

[robust shadow]

There are plenty of work arounds for that

[stark pendant]

uh no europe

im plahing offline tho

[shadow sedge]

Holy shit this whole server is EU😭😭😭

[bronze grove]

Fair point

[stark pendant]

consoles arent even worth it ngl

ever since i got a decent laptop ive neglected my ps4 pro completely

i dont even consider it

only upside of console is i can use the controllers to play skate games like skate 3 and session on pc

[bronze grove]

I wasnt really trying to say that PC players are more serious just cause they play on PC though

[robust shadow]

I know I was just saying

[bronze grove]

Idk man sometimes i just play on steam deck wich has like 4 back buttons+ the usual controller layout with 2 trackpads added to the whole thing. I couldnt get everything mapped out so idk how you'd get everything on a ps5 or xbox controller

I have like 4 keybinds missing

There's probably a way though idk

[robust shadow]

There are plenty of games that began as PC games that have been ported over to console look at hell let loose , insurgency sandstorm and arma reforger

[bronze grove]

I Know about those

[sharp fable]

i play for 5 hours just to not clear a single mission and get off

[bronze grove]

maybe it's possible but idk

[bronze grove]

Real lmao

[stone bay]

Is there a way I can play all the missions without having to complete each one?

[vale tangle]

yes

[stone bay]

May you tell me how 👉 👈

[vale tangle]

no

[stone bay]

:(

[vale tangle]

practise mode

[stone bay]

I see no practice mode, is the "training"? because I can't access all of them when I play that

[vale tangle]

have you done the training

[stone bay]

...um

[vale tangle]

have you?

[stone bay]

No 😭 Thank you

[subtle zealot]

Yo i just finished the hide and seek mission and now the police department is ruined what happened

[silk junco]

hurricane

[median shadow]

i feel like i've just discovered i can combo shotgun stagger + taser 😁

[stone bay]

I've done it now but don't see practice anywhere

[vale tangle]

main menu, single player, practise mode

[stone bay]

Still just shows training for me

[vale tangle]

do it again

no just kidding start a commander mode maybe and then see if you have it

[grand meteor]

wait question

if i host am ultiplayer friends only game, do i get that grade in like ny normal continue mode?

or do i have to do it with the fucking bots who star into a flashbang

[stone bay]

I still don't see :( I restarted my game and stuff aswell

[vale tangle]

:(

[stone bay]

So sad I know

[neon lichen]

can some one tell me how to play mods maps?

[lone cloud]

yes, also any cosmetics you unlock in multiplayer are usable in single player as well

[quaint sundial]

So, any updates from the dev team on the command menu features for co-op?

[quaint sundial]

about to ram a door open

teammate opens door from other side, gets rammed, dead

The Fuck. Everybody had a laugh at the sheer absurdity of it, and the timing.

[wanton marlin]

lowkey it would be cool to see a cash system implemented into commander mode. Imagine you have to buy your gear after successful missions instead of having all of your swat teammates be decked out with GPNVGS from the beginning

[molten comet]

how’s the state of the game following the recent patches ?

[quaint sundial]

Significantly improved, but slightly buggy at times

[unkempt mountain]

what is the loudest gun in the game?

[jolly verge]

if you mean range detection then they all same, if just what gun sounds loud - sa58

[forest lichen]

nah we got everything insured so bring whatever you like

we ain't wasting tax payers dollars 🗣️🗣️🔥🔥🇺🇸🇺🇸🦅🦅🛢️🛢️‼️‼️

[dense sluice]

940mx i5 7200u

will this GARBAG shaped as a LAPTOP explode

[gentle spear]

so how do I get the ski mask?

since you can see one in one of the preview pics of the DLC

[trim sinew]

Hey guys, yall know how to unlock the single tube NVGS? I have every mission beat by at least C grade n i still dont see em

[tacit gull]

You need to change your head to one that has a balaclava if you want it, multiplayer only

[tacit gull]

Do you have the rest of the SWAT 99 gear?

[trim sinew]

I have some clothing like the blue vests n pants n stuff

idk which other things are from the 90s

[tacit gull]

Then you should have the single tube NVG's aswell, just equip them in the customisation menu

[trim sinew]

ahhhhh now i seee. The way to select it is so convaluted, thx!

[tacit gull]

Yeah, it's really stupid since GPNVG's are a separate helmet option for whatever reason

[gentle spear]

oh thats kinda

stupid cant lie, but still thank you

[tacit gull]

It's on brand with the rest of the game

[forest lichen]

question, can the home invasion be played for free only in commander mode or is it also available in quick play/practice mode

[tacit gull]

You can play home invasion in commander mode without owning it?

[sour rover]

does paramedic count towards the hermit?

[forest lichen]

you can if you finish the main story

[tacit gull]

If that's true atleast you get something from suffering through that terrible mode

[jolly verge]

incapacitated officers wont fail the hermit only if they fall down before port hokan

[sour rover]

alright thanks

[bitter mason]

You meed to own home invasion to play the maps single player
But you can play them for free if the host of a multiplayer lobby has it

[forest lichen]

@leaden warren #🎨ron-screenshots-and-art message
can i have the mod link for that 416

also why do you have 90 magazines

[leaden warren]

https://www.nexusmods.com/readyornot/mods/3249?tab=files 90 slots this mod
https://www.nexusmods.com/readyornot/mods/4402 HK416D this mod

[graceful oyster]

wtf what have they done to the game and why it is so laggy now

[forest lichen]

unreal engine 5

tbh i don't know why they decided to use ue5, ue4 looked fine to me and it didn't need better hardware

[graceful oyster]

bro wtf from being able to play in constant 144fps now im getting like 90-100 with stutters

this shits ass

[north comet]

Is there any non-lethal sidearm? I cannot find any, maybe a mod at least? I'm goingh through nexus mods but cannot find anything fitting

[tacit gull]

Taser

[tacit gull]

Are you on DX12?

[north comet]

It's additional, not secondary, I still have a pistol. And isn't it like 1shot only?

[tacit gull]

It's also in the secondary slot, it doesn't only have one shot and it's the strongest weapon in the game

[tacit gull]

They switched to UE5 to ease development and gain access to new plugins, the game looks exactly the same as on UE4

[forest lichen]

It doesn't for me

[orchid imp]

anyone know when i screenshare it like flashes between my wallpaper/desktop and the game?

[forest lichen]

Game looked different when they switched, eventhough I had the same specs

[tacit gull]

I dunno about that

[forest lichen]

Most notable part is that the reticles don't glow

It's quite literally a flat dot for me

[tacit gull]

That sounds more like a bug and i'm pretty sure there's been a bunch of changes made to the sights

[forest lichen]

The minimum specs changed right?

[forest lichen]

Doesn't look it's happening to other people, only me

Oh yeah I forgot to tell that I'm running this game on a laptop with an integrated AMD GPU

It looked fine on UE4 but now it's just BAD

Like even the Valley Basement, the red lights don't appear

[tacit gull]

The game undeniably runs worse but i'm not sure that's entirely from UE5

Some people are claiming it's from the AI systems

[forest lichen]

?

[tacit gull]

I don't think they did

[forest lichen]

AI can cause graphical issues?

[tacit gull]

No, those are probably from your GPU melting

[orchid imp]

,

[forest lichen]

Checked it and it says the GPU was fine

Gonna check again after this

[tacit gull]

You're saying you didn't have any graphical errors before the home invasion update?

[forest lichen]

Yea

Ill get some screenshots to compare, lucky I didn't delete the old ones from UE4

[forest lichen]

You got any ways to check?

[tacit gull]

I was kind of joking but there are some overlays that tell you your GPU temperature

You can also check task manager or your AMD driver thingy

[stone bay]

Is that normal i have like RoN january 18 2023 version 💀 🙏

[forest lichen]

time travel anomaly 💀

[fervent gale]

Can dowloading mods lead to needing to delete the safe if something goes wrong?

[tacit gull]

delete the safe?

[fervent gale]

Yeah I've heard someone suggesting that as a fix to mod related issues, to start the game in safe mode, which deletes you mods and game progress right?

[tacit gull]

safe mode just disables all mods, you can delete your save file separately

[fervent gale]

Oh ok, so having issues doesn't frequently result in needing to delete your data?

[tacit gull]

No

[fervent gale]

Alr thx

[fierce jungle]

What’s the diffrent between diffrent runs? Lethal,tactical, s rank etc?

[amber dock]

Lethal= you use guns that can incapacitate people.
Tactical=you use tactics to ensure a smooth operation and victory. You also use tactics to gain an advantage to the suspects and getting all civilians alive.
S rank= you have to use less lethal weaponary and tools to arrest every single person alive on the map.

[fierce jungle]

Any other lingo for these runs or that’s all of em?

[amber dock]

There are plenty of information on tactical phrases/lingu online you can find. But I would say it’s useless for Ron. So don’t put too much effort into learning tactical words

[bronze grove]

Guys how do i nuke greased palms

I have been stuck on it for 3 days at this point

I'm not even mad just baffled

I'll keep on trying till i get it

[native rune]

What I do is methodically pie every door I can before I enter big parts of the map. Like in the main entrance right in front of spawn, after clearing that entrance building you’ll have two doors that open into the same area and one door heading into the outdoor garage, I wedge that door, stack my teams on the initial two, have them open them and I have a look in both.
Doing that helps ensure there’s no immediate threats to deal with when I do decide to actually enter the room.

You can also hover over an individual teammate, tell them to Move and Come back, meaning they’ll just take a quick check where you’ve told them to go, before returning to the initial stacked position. Obviously it’s not very realistic to send someone in as bait, but it will draw the fire of any suspects not visible from the doorway, so you’ll know the room is still hot.

[bronze grove]

Imma apply your advice see how things turn out

I usually die in that big conveyor belt room

Way too open

[native rune]

In general it’s better to be deliberate over dynamic except for maps like elephant

[bronze grove]

Imma wedge and try to keep control over my environment

[fierce jungle]

I don’t mean tactical words I mean like lingo like play styles and stuff that you guys use in looking for players chat

[amber dock]

Everyone has diff playstyles so even if I named them to you it wouldn’t be 100%. Also the key to a good mission is to make fast decisions on the fly so there is no correct answer. Just find a good group and work together to find best style for you guys

[fierce jungle]

Nvm

[topaz linden]

guys like... is greased palms even beatable....

[amber dock]

Yes it is, but it’s tough

[topaz linden]

Have any tips?

[amber dock]

S rank or just wanna finish it?

[topaz linden]

Just wanna finish it

[amber dock]

Clear the outside area with the trucks first because the Ai there is way more unpredictable and will kill you faster. Once you done that you can slowly enter the main area. Use your Ai team as human shields and use CS gas if you really struggle to lock down areas and get a chance to take down the suspects. It is also sadly bit rng so other then what I said not much else you can do then keep trying

[topaz linden]

Tysm I will try this

[tiny mountain]

everything is

[fervent gale]

I found it to be the hardest map aswell, but yeah i got it in the end

[tiny mountain]

you can always wear heavy armour and give your teammates FAL's to clear any map easily

[fervent gale]

I often went to all of the entry points to big areas, to clear as much as possible from the outside

[vale hare]

Hey yall, how would I go about sorting my mods?

[wet forge]

btw M16A2 w 16" Barrel would be a good vintage equipment but I am not so sure about its effectiveness and place in-game

[amber dock]

Considering the diversity of weapons we have in Ron a M16 is like the least weird option

[wet forge]

also would go good with the 90s swat drip

with above the carry handle sight attachments it would be very good vintage equipment

[wet forge]

maybe even one of those old Aimpoint 3000/5000 sights

[lone cloud]

if they just finished all the animations and such for the suspect weapons and gave us the options to use those id be happy

[quaint igloo]

So I'm a newbie and something I realized this game is a a lot more enjoyable when you don't play it like a shooter and I honestly enjoy it over other games because of how you plan things out

[tawny scroll]

just got back to playing ron

just finished lethal obsession with lethals but i got an S o-O eksplaen

[forest lichen]

You're tasked to deescalate situations as a SWAT Officer

You're not a tactical CAG larp tier 1 operator in Nowhere, Afghanistan

Remember SixtyAteWhiskey's motto
Stop the killing. Stop the dying

[quiet quail]

Hehe shotgun go bang bang

[magic fog]

hey, sorry if this has been asked before but i just downloaded 2 mod maps and neither of them is showing up in the mission select, could i be doing something wrong or is it due to a mismatch between the game version and the maps?

[shy tulip]

They could be outdated, if you are installing in-game, they may be in the wrong location (no fault of your own)

[magic fog]

yeah im using the in game mod manager

im trying to get lustful remorse to work

[shy tulip]

check users\public\modio and there will be files in files with the paks in there. You can move them to the right spot #❓modding-faq-archive

[umbral oar]

whatttt 1 c2 slot = 2 c2 ingame

i thought only wedges did that

[magic fog]

is this the right place C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Ready Or Not\ReadyOrNot\Content\Paks\mod.io\3791\mods?

[shy tulip]

I would put the mods in paks, you could even name a folder named "mods" to store them in separately.

You could put them there, but I don't know if you'll have issues since they should be in individual folders. I would just put them in paks or in a folder named mods in paks

The raw .pak by the way, not their folders

[magic fog]

should i do the same with weapon mods?

[shy tulip]

Every mod

This is just to reavoid having to install them again from another source

[hollow citrus]

This game plays in new colors when you make suspects harder with mods. Vanilla is very forgiving honestly and many mistakes can be made before you die.

When I played swat 4 after RoN I realised just how much things left unpunished when I play, the game still has some bs with it comes to certain ways of dying though like insane wall banging and pixel spotting but that's AI being freaky not difficult.

[stable kernel]

RoN's ROE is much more forgiving than SWAT 4 by miles

Especially on the later stages when enemies run away or towards you, and you are not allowed to shoot them while they do so

That plus no environmental hazards and you can't kill people with the taser makes RoN way more forgiving

Plus better accuracy and movement mechanics

[hollow citrus]

Yea running away in swat4 was making some hella chaos for sure, but suspects were also less war machine like and more versatile in their behavior. but when they did want to smoke me it was real threat of death not just me tanking 15 hits

[stable kernel]

Yeah for sure. Although I feel like the St. Michael's suspects are amped up to gun you down faster than suspects in RoN can think about it

And they run away or towards you every time

And the hotel with the bombs, those two I legitamately had trouble due to score

[hollow citrus]

That's interesting, I played against terrorists in red library and those had military gear and stuff but were less aggressive in their behavior than I would imagine.

[stable kernel]

Yeah Red Library is much more tame

[hollow citrus]

I'm guessing I had wrong impression of them

[stable kernel]

Plus no exploding oxygen cannisters

Those are very troll blocking flashes

[hollow citrus]

Oh yeah the environmental dangers are really bangers in swat4.

[stable kernel]

Enough people mald at not finding suspect/civs in RoN, they would lose it at dying or failing from exploding stuff

[hollow citrus]

Also reminds me that RoN still doesn't quite have suspects with gas masks as it used to or with welding masks

[stable kernel]

It has the functionality, as per Ridgeline, but VOID doesn't use it

[hollow citrus]

Everything that makes interactions with AI more versatile shouldn't really be discarded from the game IMO

Knowing you can't flash that guy or gas that guy can make entire approach different

But well I still struggling with versatility due to suspects leaning to shoot on sight 90% of the time still

That's why I make game harder because if the game is going to be only about cleaning corners I might as well make it hard and unforgiving

[stable kernel]

That does damage?

I have never seen that, or seen a stun from it

But I sure do hear it

[hollow citrus]

That's cool

[quaint igloo]

What are some mod suggestions

[forest lichen]

question, do suspects have night vision by default

[umbral oar]

Si

[forest lichen]

like the place being dark and shit doesn't affect their behaviour or aim

[umbral oar]

yah

[forest lichen]

that sucks

[frail pier]

This.

I think that's if you're low health already? I've been right next to it when it exploded and didn't die. But I also didn't get shot to shit.

IIRC it does 100 damage?

[tacit gull]

Those barrels are really strange, do they even have an explosion effect?

[frail pier]

Barely

[tacit gull]

It feels like they just put them in because of the trailer lmao

[frail pier]

It's more like dust going everywhere that's it

We got the great value version from the trailers 😪

And it's the only one on the level that does it

[tacit gull]

It should kick you back into the main lobby like it does in the trailer tbh

like the old ridgeline traps that just kicked you from the game if you triggered them

[frail pier]

Nah gotta have your boys traumatized watching that. Being kicked just voids that

No pun intended

[tacit gull]

the host gets to enjoy it just fine

[warm plover]

Is it true that beanbagging and non-lethal used to be WAY easier before 1.0?

Like, one or two beanbags would be enough to take a suspect down?

[tacit gull]

They still are

[frail pier]

It still does? Very small amounts of times have I had them not surrender from the 1st or second shot.

[tacit gull]

Less lethal used to be worse before home invasion because the projectiles would just dissapear

[frail pier]

It can happen when you hit like 3 or 4 dudes pretty quickly. 3 will surrender but the 4th sometimes won't for a bit.

Pepperball tho GL

[tacit gull]

Pepperball was definetly stronger before 1.0 though

[frail pier]

I'm starting to realize that's more a support weapon. You cannot run solo with it unless you just get lucky. Lawmaker I wasted 13 mags on the 1st suspect for him not not give up.

[tacit gull]

That new peppercloud mechanic is terrible, i can't even tell how you trigger it

I thought "okay, so if i shoot at a door it'll cover it in pepper?"

Nope, doesn't work and suspects can just walk through it lmao

[frail pier]

Sorta but I think changes with gas also affected that.

[warm plover]

Right.

But Beanbags can still actually kill suspects, right? If you aim for the head?

[frail pier]

Yea

[tacit gull]

Yeah, it's hardcoded to instakill them if you hit the head

[frail pier]

Doesn't gas have damage to health?

[tacit gull]

Yeah it does

[frail pier]

So technically pepperball lethal??? If you use enough mags

[warm plover]

I heard that it's considered sinful to use gas during Ends of the Earth.

[frail pier]

They changed gas so it doesn't go through walls anymore lol

[tacit gull]

I have died to a pepperball in the back of the head, so yes

[amber dock]

Unless they’ve changed it, you can’t kill anyone with pepperball

[frail pier]

It's the same as gas. When I invested 13 mags on the dude on lawmaker I had to hit him twice with a breach to kill him. So I'd think it can kill with enough. I'll test this out now

Usually it's like what 6-8 shots to kill with breach?

[leaden warren]

someone fill me in, why did FISA want us to close the container on hide and seek? i dont get the lore behind it