👮ron-discussion

[static slate]

can i get A+ if i kill every suspect ?

if they shoots first ofc

[agile topaz]

im not sure you can if you kill every suspect but should be possible with a few ive A+ while shooting a few but wouldnt bet on it for killing all

[static slate]

yeah okay

[noble pasture]

B, you get a B

A+ means you arrested alive a substantial number

[static slate]

fair

[noble pasture]

Killed/Incapped suspects are worth 5 points. Arrested 35

[static slate]

okay okay

[noble pasture]

Elephant is hard but I did it

16 civilians and 4 suspects

[stone hearth]

they gotta rework the post office map for the love of god

[digital glacier]

I heard from a friend that the game's performance is worse after the UE5 switch; any truth to that? Planning on reinstalling the game and I worry that I'll have problems running it.

[agile topaz]

its really a case by case thing some people run the game great some people run it terribly some people run it terribly because of settings they have on that have been known by everyone else to disable or change since the first dlc update it really just depends theres no definite its good or bad answer really

[digital glacier]

Unfortunate

[stone hearth]

the post office is literally vietnam bro u cant see where ur getting shot from

[static slate]

yeah, thats why im afraid to do the S rank 💀

[stone hearth]

im trying it rn this shit so ass

[shy tulip]

What are your specs

[static slate]

lmao, gl bro or sis

[stone hearth]

brotherista

[static slate]

ur doing it with bots or mp

[digital glacier]

I'm not looking for like specifics, just wondering if the game took a hit to performance for people.

[shy tulip]

For some, yes, from what I've seen mainly older GPU/CPUs. There's also some finicky intel shit, but can't avoid that one sadly

[stone hearth]

if i was doing multiplayer my team would somehow manage to blow the head off of someone in a whole different map

genuinely who designed this map they need to be legally forbidden from ever accessing game development again

[static slate]

oh no embed

[stone hearth]

[static slate]

blablabla grrrrr

[stone hearth]

can we just airstrike the post office

[static slate]

can we just glassed it

[stone hearth]

frrr

they shot through my shield holy shit bro

how are these shitters using anti tank rifles in a raid to the local amazon warehouse

[lone raven]

Does it have a hole?

[stone hearth]

how am i supposed to know i cant even see my nuts with the shield out

[static slate]

smol nuts

[lone raven]

Then how do you know they shot through your shield?

[stone hearth]

[stone hearth]

they gave me a faulty ass shield

[stone hearth]

never try to s rank greased palms, worst mistake of my life

[static slate]

why

[silk junco]

NOT THE BED

[static slate]

ah yeah thats the big ass map

[stone hearth]

im being shot by tank shells and i cant even see where from

they need to imprison the guy who designed the post office

[dapper birch]

guys is there any non lethal pistols in the game ? i wanna get S rank in maps with pistol only

[warm orchid]

Nope.

[shy tulip]

The taser, but it is not in the pistol slot anymore

[static slate]

the taser is kinda shit

[shy tulip]

Skill issue

Best LTL in the game

[proven axle]

In general AI behaviour makes most LTL kind of frustrating.

[acoustic ridge]

you could shoot them in the legs a few times to get then to surrender, better off using taser tho

[dense quest]

I have like 150h and I never even tried to use the taser once 💀

but I also never cared about S ranks

[acoustic ridge]

taser takes too long to equip

it would be so useful if we got a keybind to quickdraw it instead of pressing 2 twice/2 scroll

[steep ridge]

on god

[supple star]

why can I not see any dropped weapons?

[steep ridge]

tried to do it 9 times, my roster is fucked, and i dont want to restart again

i went into quickplay to vent my anger and shot everything that moved

[steep ridge]

he needs to be executed

go around the post office to side? a suspect who didnt render in just domed your entire squad with 100% accuracy and efficiency

[royal nimbus]

do replays save SP mode yet

[toxic palm]

it work yes

[frigid shell]

Finally beat Sins of The Father on S

[amber dock]

Nice job

[rough oriole]

tearing my skin off because of AI rn

[frigid shell]

It took me probably over 100 tries lol

I hear Neon Tomb is harder and I haven’t even tried it yet

[frigid shell]

It’s annoying bc they’re always in your way and they say you’re in their way

[amber dock]

Hai Matthew

[acoustic ridge]

the world if ai just tried to find a way around me instead of sayign youre in my way

[amber dock]

Yo, how have you been?

[amber dock]

Terrible, my Arma 3 map got deleted so I lost all my hard work and coding I did. And by coding I mean like two lines of it lol. But still Sadddddddd

Rip

How are you and the Ron custom map crew?

[rough oriole]

'barrel stuffs for thy but not for me'

they gotta fix barrel stuffs asap lol tired of getting sprayed down by someone point blank when i cant shoot them but they can shoot me for some reason

[amber dock]

It's going good, new template is out and people are porting their maps

I'm porting Fairfax over, progress in #🎨ron-screenshots-and-art

There are some missing assets and broken references, but it's fixable

[amber dock]

very poggggggg

have to be honest, I was expecting worse.

[amber dock]

Porting over to UE5?

Yeah

most of the trouble comes from the blueprints, which I expected

[slim fern]

will there be any guides for creating custom blueprints or is there one out already?

Genuinely curious because unselles had that mod with ghost as a seperate character

[amber dock]

adding customization is possible, unsure where it's documented

[crystal sierra]

Can AI make friendly fire on me with VHS or something like that?

[lone raven]

It looks so dark and gloomy. Need grandma to lighten it up.

[stone hearth]

turning me schizo with how im turning around searching for the guy shooting me 3 rooms away

[amber dock]

she's there, she found the basement

[lone raven]

The same as the first day I saw her. 😍

[steep ridge]

theres a basement in eote or wtv map this is?

[amber dock]

it's my modded map, Fairfax Residence Remake

[lone raven]

Imagine never playing SWAT 4.

[amber dock]

hasn't been updated yet

[steep ridge]

im already mentally deranged as the brisa cove ppl killed 2 of my officers and i hunted them down with 2 injured officers and no shield or m320

and now im suffering in post office (i want to go postal and kill civilians)

[lone raven]

You can put the nekkid Narcos guy in the basement cellar.

[amber dock]

Interesting suggestion

[steep ridge]

ready or not logic is sending a 4man team with no reinforcements whatsoever to arrest 3 ppl and clear an entire post office full of like 24 suspects?

[stone hearth]

i wish we had esp specifically for post office cuz wtf genuinely

[steep ridge]

i got fucking ptsd from post

[stone hearth]

+the entire operation gets called off when the leader dies ❓

[steep ridge]

i spent a min looking at a box outside wondering if thats a guy about to jfk me

[stone hearth]

i once got fucking shot by a guy running full speed and somehow still being accurate enough to dome me

[toxic palm]

john fortnite kenned will always be remembered

g3a3 with HMAA carried me thru that mission

[lone raven]

Plus they're so highly trained, they stare at walls when entering.

[steep ridge]

my ai team decide that its great if two of them split off in the area where the fisa office is and go to the area on the right and die instantly before mag dumping the fisa agent who didnt even pull out his gun yet

and then i ask them to stack up on a door and randomly they go back the way they came to go the other side of the map to stack up for some reason

[stone hearth]

me watching as my swat ai obliterates an already cuffed suspect's head with a max velocity beanbag shot: (s rank dead)

[steep ridge]

i’ve had the most success just forcing my team to stay behind me and not get out of line and shoot everything

[amber dock]

you raise a good idea, I'll definitely look into it.

[steep ridge]

i sympathise with gerard because he’s clearly in his right mind (the people who are watching him are actually the suspects who saw him througj the walls)

[amber dock]

no guarantee if I'll add it though

[lone raven]

Fair enough. It was only a joke anyhow.

[stone hearth]

can you add the ability to punch people (not the stupid ass gun bash)

[amber dock]

I'm not that type of modder, sadly

[lone raven]

I miss the SWAT 4 punch.

[steep ridge]

add the ability to shoot the civvies who punch you (assault) or plant evidence in dead civvies hands

to shoot the puncher civvies and not get penalised*

[stone hearth]

"TOC you don't understand, she was reaching!"
"Judge, she has no arms!"

but fr how am i getting penalized for defending myself

[steep ridge]

i left the headcam and bodycam in the swat truck toc i swaer

and my teammates malfunctioned trust me

[lone raven]

You need to accidentally bump your helmet cam.

[steep ridge]

suspect: “what you gonna do huh?”
buckshot flying towards his skull:

[steep ridge]

the mf punched me

its like getting penalised for shooting a suspect who missed (im sure its not scientifically possible for them to miss but still)

[toxic palm]

toc this is entry team, the suspects have shot out my headcam....

[steep ridge]

you mean entry team to toc*

[toxic palm]

RIPS YOUR HEAD OFF YOUR SHOULDESR RARAAAAAAH

[steep ridge]

toc is the assholes who say ‘follow your roe’

[toxic palm]

"YOURE A DANGER TO THE OPERATION WATCH YOURSELVES"

i hate this bot let ME SWEAR

[lone raven]

BAD WORD? HANDS UP!

[native rune]

Bruh

[toxic palm]

I regret nothing.

[steep ridge]

toc: your endangering this entire operation
me (my 3 teammates died from a civvie who pulled a gun, they can do that btw, and im injured and saw a fucking methhead running at me and obscuring half my line of sight so i fired)

[lone raven]

Do they even explain what our ROE actually is at any point in time? No? Then we're going in full auto

[steep ridge]

full auto is practically necessary in the postal office indoors

[toxic palm]

not really, just use more 7.62 nato

[steep ridge]

a suspect took 2 sa-58 rounds to the skull and one to the chest before making me nearly die and going into cover

[toxic palm]

skill issue ( :) )

[steep ridge]

im not even joking

[steep ridge]

i hope you accidentally dome your teammate and everyone starts shooting at you

[lone raven]

Idea: shoot them more in the head

[steep ridge]

problem: recoil and the pure cocaina columbiana and adderal the suspects smoke because of their inhuman reaction times and accuracy

[toxic palm]

nah id win

[steep ridge]

theory: all the suspects in the game are actually crackheads in disguise and thats why their so OP

[lone raven]

Legit.

[toxic palm]

nah crackheads are really weak irl, theyre prolly on meth or cocaine

[steep ridge]

ain’t crack the same as cocaine

[toxic palm]

crack is like... the trash from cocaine production

[agile topaz]

cocaine that good shit

[toxic palm]

very different effects too

except some side effects like hallucinations are mutual

[ionic gale]

Hei

[warm orchid]

I'd personally ditching the Sa-58. Its one of the worst weapons in the game. The damage and armor pen isn't worth the massive recoil and small magazine. I'd recommend switching to the G36 or F90. If they're wearing armor, bring AP, or shoot for the head or hips.

[agile topaz]

what are the side effects of chugging the melted remains of a .50 bmg

[toxic palm]

skill issue 100%

[steep ridge]

i already main f90 im just desperate for the sweet sweet damage and armor pen

[toxic palm]

you could run slug shotgun

[steep ridge]

postal parking lot in question:

[toxic palm]

i either run sa-58 or xm1014

[ionic gale]

LUL

[toxic palm]

just dont get shot at by being careful and using optics to your advantage, like the hmaa in the g3a3

[ionic gale]

I do like it a lot even if I don’t use the SA58 much

[toxic palm]

also spam stingers like hell

[ionic gale]

And when I do it kicks ass

[steep ridge]

ok but in elephant why do they not tell you that theres bombs but then tells you to hurry up defusing the bombs when your in the mission

[ionic gale]

I’m guessing it’s supposed to be like a weird gimmick or something where do you find bombs or something without the Intel telling you?

Idk

[toxic palm]

because you figure out theres bombs when you get there cause emergency situation, also judge is just le super soldier knows EOD and stuff

[steep ridge]

thats kinda dumb ik limited information but clearly TOS FUCKING KNOWS BECAUSE I DIDNT SEE A SINGLE BOMB AND THEY SOMEHOW KNOW THE EXACT TIME LEFT ON THE BOMBS

[agile topaz]

yeah he knows how to snip some kind of wires

[stone hearth]

me murdering the judge who sentenced me to life in prison for defending myself against a punchy civilian

[toxic palm]

bit silly, prolly just for gameplay

[ionic gale]

Yeah, limited information is a gimmick that is realistic, but obviously if it’s taken too far, it can just be more of a hindrance

[steep ridge]

is realistic but then how does tos know when its 10 mins left or smt

[ionic gale]

Idk

[steep ridge]

sounds like bad police fr only in los suenos

[lone raven]

Cut the red wire

[ionic gale]

Tactical Operations Command is all seeing ig

[lone raven]

A bomb making adding a loud beeping sound to their bomb like

[steep ridge]

so thats what our buddy gerard scott was talking about when he said ‘ALWAYS watching, ALWAYS LISTENING’

he was onto smt ngl

[ionic gale]

Uh yeah

[toxic palm]

i mean yeah, we know judge is special aswell

[ionic gale]

Judge is a kewl character

[steep ridge]

i am the judge jury and executioner because i shot amos voll upon seeing him

[ionic gale]

He’s the only SWAT dude that actually is hinted at for being an important character in whatever story is happening

[toxic palm]

too easy of a way out

[steep ridge]

gerard scott is a yandere girl confirmed (he stalks judge)

[toxic palm]

yandere grandpa

[steep ridge]

i saw a fucking crib in his basement

[ionic gale]

All of the suspects there were mysteriously found with bullet holes in the back of their head

[steep ridge]

also what happens to the overdosing girl in twisted nerve (aka the mission where if you get too close to a window you get shot at instantly)

[ionic gale]

I think one of my dudes gun malfunctioned

[steep ridge]

what happens after tn what happens to the od girl in tn

shes forever in a pink bed next to a needle and [REDACTED]

also ue5 crashers are simply noobs with skill issues

a real sigma uses a 4 year old laptop to run ready or not at epic graphics (me)

[winged hornet]

Presumably given medical attention of some degree and then who knows

[slim fern]

She'll be fine... Physically.

[steep ridge]

if the methies didnt bonk her head to give her memory loss than she’s def gonna be messed up

[agile topaz]

well in the real world medical attention then more than likely put into an orphanage and into the foster care where she'd probably be mistreated or neglected even further

[steep ridge]

also wheres the condom (mods pls dont do it) i dont see it anywhere on her bed

[agile topaz]

what

[steep ridge]

i sure do love america

[slim fern]

EA version

[steep ridge]

theres a condom on her bed somewhere apparently

[slim fern]

early access had it

[steep ridge]

oh

also sierra team is goat pls add back sierra team

[winged hornet]

God bless insert north american country here childcare system

[steep ridge]

good thing im not north american and can die in a communist apartment block in my home country

[acoustic ridge]

ron if you could tell the swat ai to disarm bombs for you

[steep ridge]

ron if you could tell the AI not to kill the guy your supposed to arrest:

[umbral oar]

they’re pretty good at incapping unless you give them a shotgun

almost too good

[sturdy atlas]

can i afford to kill any suspects to get an S or nah

[sharp dirge]

no

[agile topaz]

nope s rank is arresting all of them without unauthorized use of force you can only get a+ max while killing a few suspects

[sturdy atlas]

do jhp rounds have less of a chance of killing a suspect?

[agile topaz]

technically it could but they simply do less damage to armor and more to unarmored suspects so in theory it might have less of a chance of killing armored suspects but its not a good strategy in my opinion

[sharp dirge]

just use beanbag or pepperball

[sturdy atlas]

i need a riot shield for one of my officers, but there isnt any non lethal side arms

[sharp dirge]

i know, it sucks

[acoustic ridge]

if you NEED a shield give them no secondary ammo

[sharp dirge]

but then they're as useless as me on greased palms

[sturdy atlas]

thats what im trying to get asn S on rn

[sharp dirge]

oh

i feel so so bad for you dude

[sturdy atlas]

im going for that achievement but im losing faith

all S

[tawny fox]

Guys is there a problem with mods currently because none of the mods I installed through ingame mod menu are actually working in game

[agile topaz]

mod.io is not working

use nexus mods only use mods that have been updated or released after july 23rd 2024 and check #❓modding-faq-archive if you need a guide to manually install nexus mods to the game

[tawny fox]

Okay got it, thanks

[ionic gale]

I use the Vortex extension to make that shit even easier

Deploying and my mods abs having them in one application instead of having to dig through the game’s files and messing around all the time

[agile topaz]

idk how to use the vortex thing i just stick to the base manual shit because i figured out how to use it

[inland walrus]

normal shotguns should also be able to breach too

[tawny fox]

I used vortex and downloaded the mod which adds masks to every character and got the corrupted file error

[agile topaz]

which mod did you use

like specifically the name

[tawny fox]

Masked swat heads

By ballistic

[agile topaz]

that mod wont work it hasnt been updated since 2023 use this mod instead https://www.nexusmods.com/readyornot/mods/3745

[tawny fox]

Okay got it thanks and does this mean that any mods before 1.0 won't work

[agile topaz]

yes any mods 1.0 (before july 23rd 2024) will not work being the game in the july 23rd dlc update was taken from ue4 to ue5.3 so all mods before that would still be 1.0 mods and corrupt your files and at the least not work or at the worst cause your game to crash

[toxic palm]

I use the ECHO mod for sp

[agile topaz]

yes but the legacy masked heads gives masks to your character and the ai teammates echo doesnt have all of them and some random ai in the station who have old repurposed models lmao

[toxic palm]

Mm mm true

[buoyant fern]

ok so I've tested it multiple times the FPS drops in the current version of the game are most likely caused in part by something related to the bullet casing being moved by players

[toxic palm]

To me folliage has been the biggest issue and sometimes flashbangs

[lone raven]

Big news.

#1050535723087958156

Try get footage with FPS counter?

[short gate]

yo, do coop s ranks count towards unlocks?

or do they have to be singleplayer?

[stone bay]

They count

[sturdy atlas]

2 hours later and im still struggling hard

[sharp dirge]

I've been trying for 3 days i feel your pain dude

[sturdy atlas]

every time its going well either me or one of my officers screws up bad

[sharp dirge]

i know

fisa agent is the worst too

[sturdy atlas]

he needs like half a mag of pepperballs to control

[sharp dirge]

just bring a pistol and shoot him in the head

that's what i do when any suspect pisses me off

[stuck siren]

best gun for ai teammates? besides sa58

[sturdy atlas]

is beanbag the best non lethal for greased palms? or do you think i should stick with the rifle one

[buoyant fern]

yo void wheres this FPS patch this shit is near unplayable

[stone bay]

Shotgun tips?? Buckshot or Slugs? When to use which?

[jolly owl]

They can use any gun and still wipe the floor tbh

[jolly owl]

If your playing quick play or have no teammates that has the Pacifier Trait in Commander mode... Use Beanbag

If you have a teammate that has the Pacifier Trait, use Pepperball.

[frail quartz]

There isn't really anything they specialize in, just give them whatever you'd use yourself

[jolly owl]

Buckshot for places like Neon, Relapse, anything taking place inside a building

Slugs for open places like Greased Palms

[stone bay]

Brake for Buckshot then Choker for Slugs as the muzzle? Or can use any?

[jolly owl]

Unsure on the attachments, but try to experiment which works best

Instinct is telling me to use choker for buckshot and brake for slugs

[royal nimbus]

1301

[royal nimbus]

Buckshot always

[unborn lintel]

nah beanbags always

enemy? civ? who cares, break all their ribs

[vague spire]

Hi guys, i wonder if the game in the current state is worth buying?

[jade apex]

Is there much point to using the battering ram?

[vague spire]

I'm considering buying 2 copies for me and one of my friend

[jade apex]

I think it's worth it! Just a warning though, the game uses some AI imagery and doesn't specify that on the store page

[unborn lintel]

it crashes occasionally but mostly good

[jade apex]

Try out some missions in Commander mode and then get it for your friend if you think theyd like it

[unborn lintel]

my game can't get past the main menu on dx12 but dx11 runs it perfect

[vague spire]

Can mid end devices run the game? I'm just afraid the game gonna fry my laptop.

I am willing to sacrifice the image quality for the sake of performance

[unborn lintel]

my pc isn't great and it runs fine

[jade apex]

What are your specs?

[vague spire]

My gpu is somewhat equivalent to a gtx1050ti and i have a 10th i7cpu

I also have 2x 8gb 3666hmz ram

[unborn lintel]

i have a 1660 and i can run medium-high graphics 60fps for frame of reference

required specs should be on the steam store page

[vague spire]

I heard so many complaints about how poorly optimized the game is, is this true?

[jade apex]

I personally don't know, I got lucky with my rig. I also play on Linux sooooooo

[vague spire]

Thank you.

[jade apex]

I think you should buy it, play the first mission, and then decide whether you need to refund or not

Unfortunately a demo doesn't exist...

[unborn lintel]

^

[jade apex]

NICE

Just saw a guy in my roster run out in the open during an active gunfight...

Cover was right beside him...

[jade apex]

How intense is bullet dropoff?

The AI run into bullets... I've failed Port Hokan too many times

[jolly verge]

you mean damage fall off? depend on caliber

[jade apex]

Sometimes I shoot at a dude from somewhat far away and the bullet seems to not hit or do little damage

This is from a primary weapon, I am surprised the shots don't land more I guess

[jolly verge]

you don't use any sdr or atak optic?

rifles deal full damage up to 60m and 75m for sa58

[blazing yew]

this game got a brightness slider? can't see shit even in broad daylight

[jade apex]

I was using the 12x zoom

On the Austrialian Bullpup rifle whose name I have forgotten

[noble pasture]

F90

[jade apex]

Yeah! I like that gun

[unborn lintel]

it's soooo much fun

hmmmm do i go for S rank or do i use the f90

[floral canopy]

I find sight picture being really stinky rn

[tight knot]

in a lobby if anyone wants to try meth mod ++ hardcore count

[floral canopy]

Zeroing would be a crazy mechanic

[noble pasture]

I believe Suspects need nerfs and Swat AI buffs

The moment swat AI breaches a room they get shot in their backs

Cause they clear rooms with their backs, I am gonna have an aneurysm

Like clockwork, if they enter a room first AI goes left or right, depending where closest wall to lick is

But got my military drip

[pale prawn]

Can we add the Sten gun like in Rainbow Six?

Also FAMAS would be cool

[noble pasture]

Neither gun is in the game

[verbal carbon]

Is there a fast way to switch to the taser?

I have to press 4 three times every time i want to use it

[noble pasture]

press 2 two times

[verbal carbon]

got it,thanks

By the way,do I need to warn suspect before using taser or pepper gun?

[noble pasture]

hold press 2 and scroll up to bring up the taser

[verbal carbon]

I equip everyone with pepper gun and still get unauthorized use of force

[noble pasture]

yell just once if their gun is at waist level. If its up at eye level nope

[verbal carbon]

got it

Getting a S rank is really hard 😦

I just don't get the ROE,hope there could be a manual or something in the game

[zealous bay]

Yesterday I got domed on Dorms by the first and only shot from a hobo, at full health while wearing full ceramic. It was also some ridiculous shot through a pinhole.
Sometimes... sometimes I'm just speechless.

[steady mist]

so if you, or ai team, shoot a suspect or civilian that is already cuffed, that is unauthorized use of force. you can mitigate this by moving already arrested people out of likely lines of fire. it is tedious, but it has helped me get those s ranks.

edit: also, you can shoot around them and they will still cough, but it will not count as unauthorized use of force.

[noble pasture]

tripped a trap on Sins of the Father

my luck was that it was a flasbang trap and not frag trap

[jolly verge]

bomber wont surrender if you too close to him

[acoustic ridge]

sins has flash traps not frags
i had a nice surprise the first time i played sins

[noble pasture]

Also most annoying doors to check for traps

[acoustic ridge]

you can tell swat ai to mirror the door, then a prompt will appear for them to disarm trap

[noble pasture]

Door frame is so fucking thick you cant peek the door open to see the wire. So you need to wand every door

[acoustic ridge]

the ai can dsiarm it regardless, they are built different

[noble pasture]

I checked the cinema door. Except that the wire was too small to be seen by the flashlight check

Got flashed by the trap

[jolly verge]

yes, because they always will try to pull off the wire if someone too close

[bitter mason]

Roe is pretty forgiving. For lethal weapons you will get unauthorised for shooting an unaware suspect or one that is hesitating
For less lethals im pretty sure you only get unauthorised if you use it on someone who has already surrendered

[steep ridge]

SWAT AI mirrors the door
says theres no traps or enemies
open the door
[you died, your save file has been deleted]

thanks ai for telling me theres no nade trap when there is

[verbal carbon]

my pepper gun accidently hit a civilian near the bad guy,and i get a score penalty

Is this intended?

[molten bough]

My luck is hitting frag traps when I think there not on the map

[steep ridge]

my luck is going brisa cove and literally encountering 0 frag traps

they didnt spawn anywhere i even checked the washing machine room

[molten bough]

I haven’t played that map yet is it any good?

[steep ridge]

it has tight hallways and corridors with not much cover

[molten bough]

Is it the map with like the snipers in a room and there is a middle room with people with machine guns?

[steep ridge]

the machine gun ppl spawn anywhere and i assume have very high morale and there are snipers

[molten bough]

Ahh yea then I have played that map it’s a hard one for me I keep forgetting to check the doors for traps

[steep ridge]

just when you mirror look to the left to see if theres a wire or grenade

im pretty sure frag traps spawn with the grenade on the same side as the door knob

[molten bough]

Got it thank you I will remember that for later

[vale lagoon]

I subscribed to a bunch of Ready or Not Steam mods and none of them show, what do I do?

[noble pasture]

Steam mods? Whats next? Sleep with jeans on?

[dense quest]

If you mean the in-game mod thing it's pretty broken, you should download the mods manually from nexus

[lost rover]

https://www.reddit.com/r/ReadyOrNotGame/s/0o4efZEZHM

What do you guys think?

[vale lagoon]

ahhh

[bitter mason]

That mightve done it
Were they arrested or surrendered?

[dense quest]

Make sure you also only download mods that are updated/created after 23rd of july

[vale lagoon]

Ahh okay 🙂

[stone hearth]

are you guys ready or not

[exotic surge]

Is there any way to play without ai teammates?

[molten bough]

Multiplayer private session

[exotic surge]

I see

[stone hearth]

tell them to stand somewhere, move far away, dome one of them and get shredded by the other 3

[noble pasture]

I cant do this anymore

S ranking is still stupid hard even with dev changes. I cant do it vanilla

lost my save at car dealership. 4 fucking missions from being done

devs must have nerfed Alt-F4 trick cause I cant pause the game anymore while dying

Suspect AI gives zero shits about RoE, blasts you first chance it gets and SWAT AI are worse than children

They look at anything but the suspects

Also had to try S ranking maps, SWAT AI has a depression episode after killing 3 suspects

Got killed in car dealership cause SWAT AI forgot to cover me

Also suspects surprisingly resisted CS gas and pepper balls

[crystal sierra]

Is there a way to control AI trough body cam on T ?

[dapper birch]

guys i wanna get S rank in 23 megabites a second . can someone tell me all the illigal evidence locations ? or how many of them are ? like server farms and the CP content on streamers PC

[noble pasture]

1 server, 1 bedside table for Michael and 1 his pc

[crystal sierra]

There is some CDs on the bed or it was some kind of table, don't remember correctly, same room where PC is, like, corner of the room beside vent

[dapper birch]

tnx guys

[dense quest]

No but that lowkey would be a dope feature

Best you can do is queue commands, you can also command them to hold position

[crystal sierra]

I'm losing my shit on like 20th try to get S on Narcos, can't get around bots overall, there is too much long angles, there is pretty much 0 posibility of engaging them right.

[dense quest]

For S runs I think it's often better that you do it solo without the ai

Especially in their current state they die too much and kill civilians

[crystal sierra]

AI is not the issue, ability to kepp them all alive is, map is too much long range heavy, there is also 1000 angles where bots can shoot you trough, like the truck in middle alley and stuff like that. Getting close to shoot with beanbag is almost impossible

[noble pasture]

While they dont lick corners anymore they stare at walls

[crystal sierra]

That too, it's irritating af on Narcos at least now, small houses, like, ffs, clear that small rooms inside house instead of just staring at the door up close

[noble pasture]

I tried everything but the suspect reacts much faster at swat AI than vice versa

[dense quest]

Well yeah that's why it's better without them for S runs so you don't have to worry about keeping them alive

Or use them only to hold down specific angles

[noble pasture]

Wanding only helps so much as suspects can hide behind corners. So you either need wallhacks or clearvoiance to know where to throw bangs

[dense quest]

Gas is much better for S runs but I enjoy flashbangs more

[crystal sierra]

VHS would be perfect for Narcos, but i can't get it work instantly like beanbag, that's the overall problem. Yes, i can engage enemies on long range with that but they will not surrender immidetly, they will shoot for like 2/3 second, as well, one big issue in Narcos is glass, they will dump whole mag on me from inside the house, and i can't shoot back with neither beanbag or VHS.

[noble pasture]

I wanded a room on Ides of March and a suspect was on his ass around a corner in an angle I couldnt see, wounded 2 officers himself alone

[dense quest]

Maybe try running shield so you can run across the windows without taking damage

[crystal sierra]

Love gas but hate to use gas mask overall. Even if i'm using gas, i'm using iwth with launcher, hand granade is kind of slow af

[noble pasture]

Devs should let lethal players get S rank if they didnt violate RoE

[crystal sierra]

On my last try on Narcos suspect was crouching behind some van, facing van it self, no shooting audio, nothing, when i approached him up close, one of my AIs died without anyone shooting at him. xD

[molten bough]

Wait so is s rank doing it with out killing anyone

[dense quest]

Yes

[crystal sierra]

Bingo, everyone must be alive, no friendly fire or such

[molten bough]

Ahhh that’s not quite my style

[noble pasture]

Basically need to be batman but without the gadgets

[dense quest]

S rank is made for ppl looking for an extra challenge

[noble pasture]

Except its not worth it

[dense quest]

I find it super unfun so I never do it

[noble pasture]

You get a tattoo

[dense quest]

I'd rather an extra challenge where there's more suspects or they shoot better etc

[molten bough]

Is it just bragging rights if you get S rank?

[frail pier]

BASICALLY

[dense quest]

Yes and an in-game cosmetic (that you can unlock with a mod anyway)

[molten bough]

Alright

[crystal sierra]

I personally don't care that much, just want an achivement, but again, for maps like Narcos for example now, it's almost impossible.

[frail pier]

No..

It's 2024 game ain't that hard

[dense quest]

There are crazy S nerds in this community that can probably give you more tips

It's definitely not impossible but definitely too hard for me

[noble pasture]

Okay, lost my Ironman run, need to rethink this

Was on mission 15

[crystal sierra]

Try Naros on S, you will get shoot at with LMG from 1000 meters away, your screen will be blurred so you can't even see where tf he is, sun will flash you additionaly, then you will realize that the he is spraying you trough van that you can't penetrate, after all you need him alive.

[frail pier]

Already did

[noble pasture]

I believe No Crack for AI helps S ranking a lot

[dense quest]

But then it's kinda cheating it

[crystal sierra]

Exacly this

[molten bough]

What’s Ironman run?

[crystal sierra]

Solo run, no dying allowed, like hardcore in minecraft

[noble pasture]

you die you lose your save

[molten bough]

Ahhh okay

[molten bough]

Oh rip

[noble pasture]

lost my save in mission 15/18

[molten bough]

That must be annoying

[noble pasture]

will try to recover ground today

[molten bough]

How long does it normally take

[noble pasture]

a full run? 6-7 hours

[molten bough]

Oh that must be suck then

[crystal sierra]

Finish Narcos on S, somehow finally 💀

[verbal carbon]

I don't know why but my"a lethal obsession" mission still tagged as unfinished even after I finished it

Anyone know why? I just has no rank

[abstract folio]

I’ve got a question

[dense quest]

Idk why but the unfinished tag is being weird for me too

Even though I completed missions with all objectives

[verbal carbon]

yeah,quite annoying

I just completed it both in MP and SP still unfinished

[waxen grove]

why do homeless men have l4 armor

[sharp dirge]

they're just built different

[turbid pawn]

you still can't do it? I did it in 1 day first try

I did it with lethal weapons, little CS gas, a good G36, 2 shields in my team then a mirror pistol (try to make a brutal entry at each door so that there is someone to surprise him and make as few kills as possible)

[steep ridge]

let us put c2 on suspects

[acoustic ridge]

let us put c4 on swat ai

[steep ridge]

neon tomb except swat

swat vest bombers vs yemen terrorist vest bombers

[lavish sundial]

i have an issue can someone help?
my ron textures are buggy
everytime i turn off motion blur in settings they start glitching out

[astral warren]

That is a unique problem I have never encountered or heard of others encountering.

Have you tried using safe mode just to rule out any mods potentially causing the problem?

Otherwise I might try finding the config file for the display settings, deleting it, and making the game create a new one, maybe somehow the formatting in the config file got messed up or it's just not applying correctly for one reason or another.

All of that failing, I would try verifying integrity of game files, and then finally if nothing else has worked, a full reinstall. It may also be worth checking to make sure that if you have nvidia control panel it's not messing with that game's settings.

[astral warren]

I'm not the best person for fixing problems here, though, so if you want a second opinion, definitely get one.

[lavish sundial]

thx, ill try everything

[astral warren]

It's just the textures, right? It's not like a permanent motion blur effect is stuck on? It could be broken texture streaming if the textures look super muddy.

[lavish sundial]

yes

[astral warren]

It definitely could be a mod breaking the texture streaming, otherwise verifying integrity of game files will probably fix it.

[lavish sundial]

i dont have mods installed tho

[astral warren]

Have you had them installed before?

[lavish sundial]

yes

its weird tho changing random settings seems to fix the flickering and glitching

[astral warren]

They don't uninstall correctly, sometimes, I had to reinstall my game because I had gunfighter before the update, and it kept trying to equip multiple pieces of head gear, even after uninstalling it through mod.io and manually, which is not possible in vanilla, given the altered equipment point value in gunfighter as well. It would eat like half of my equipment points and keep me from unequipping the extra gear because the vanilla game doesn't support more than 1 piece of headgear being equipped.

Also which settings being changed seemed to help?

[lavish sundial]

turning on motion blur seems to fix it

I fixed it, i turned on vsync, turned off DLSS and still get 180 fps(my monitor hz is 180)

[astral warren]

DLSS can look like ass.

[lavish sundial]

nah it depends on the setting you choose, if you put it on quality theres no diff

[astral warren]

Usually. Even on the quality preset, there can be some artifacting from particularly intense lighting/particle effects. I know in Metro:Exodus it feels like the game was graphically designed to make DLSS seem as awful as possible, lmao.

[lavish sundial]

i have another question

how do I know if a round shot at me hit my body armor not my body part

[astral warren]

It depends on the kind of armour you're using.

[lavish sundial]

heavy, full coverage, ceramic paltes

[astral warren]

Ceramic is interesting, because unlike steel and kevlar, each plate can stop 4 rounds before breaking. After a ceramic plate is broken, it will still reduce damage, but only by 40%. The side plates are considered to be 1, by the way, so 2 rounds to your left side, and 2 rounds to your right side, means your side plate is broken.

[lavish sundial]

how do i know when its broken

[astral warren]

The plate on your paper doll will turn red.

[lavish sundial]

oh so the part on my bodu with armor

[astral warren]

Yeah.

[lavish sundial]

ok ty

[astral warren]

If you want something that can stand up to more shots, but will reduce mobility quite a bit, and won't protect you from all of the damage, steel is a very good option. Steel plates reduce damage taken by 70%, and they CANNOT break, and never loose effectiveness, no matter how many times they're shot. However, a single steel plate has a bigger acceleration debuff than ceramic on the front, back, and sides.

[lavish sundial]

i see

[astral warren]

1 steel plate is pretty okay to play with, but more than that and you begin to feel like you're walking in molasses. Also, keep in mind, any slot you don't fill with armour, automatically gets kevlar, heavy or light carrier.

[lavish sundial]

what about light armor

[astral warren]

Light armour gives more equipment slots, but does not permit side plates. Top speed is the same except for leg injuries, and acceleration is the same, except for armour plates. The carrier doesn't matter.

[lavish sundial]

how many bullets can a helmet withstand, if i remove my helmet am i more vulnerable?

[astral warren]

Your helmet is REALLY good, do not take it off, unless you want to larp as a first responder or smth.

It has a small ricochet chance, but even if it doesn't ricochet, it can very easily save your life from handgun rounds or a single larger round, however the helmet is usually broken after only one or two shots.

Also note that even if the helmet is 99% broken, it will still protect you from the last shot, but the next one will kill you.

[lavish sundial]

do bullets ricochet?

[lost inlet]

1-2 if just helmet, 2-3 if use ballistic mask

[astral warren]

They can off of surfaces, and helmets are programmed to have a ricochet chance.

Idk if the helmet "ricochet" creates a projectile like with how AP rounds can skid off of concrete and steel, but I think it's more just a %chance of avoiding damage on headshot.

Same name different mechanic, effectively.

Also the ballistic mask has a 1/3 chance of causing a ricochet, as opposed to the standard helmet's 1 in 4 chance.

Not a huge increase, but given its increased durability, it's nice to have.

[lavish sundial]

awesome, also i wish i could unequip my secondary also get my ammo back if i accidentally fast reload

[astral warren]

You can pick up fast loaded mags off of the ground, iirc.

Test it with a P90 so you don't loose the mag, lol, they're huge.

[lavish sundial]

awesome

also, did they improve the ai? cuz i now see them mounting to objects to shoot better or even fake surrender or even lean from a wall

[astral warren]

AI is a lot better now, yeah.

[lavish sundial]

the devs need to also release more maps to the story

[astral warren]

I really want them to finish working on the weapons. I consider the SLR-47, chambered in 7.62x39 and 10mm MP5 to be unfinished, because they just use the exact same damage values as .300blk and .45ACP, respectively, however, with much more recoil.

[lavish sundial]

yeah they should also add different ammo to the game not just jhp and ap

also they need to add the feature to not carry a tool (battering ram, mirrorgun) for ppl who wanna do larp, like me

[astral warren]

JHP and AP is plenty enough in my opinion, I think it's more just barrel length being completely irrelevant, damage curves being shared as often as they are, and flesh being the 3rd hardest material in the game that makes the guns feel super samey.

[lavish sundial]

the game has some kinks it needs to work out

for example i really want the devs to add a feature where u can return to the bearcat and refill ammo or supplies

even call a medic, like a radio feature

[astral warren]

That'd be too easy.

Shoot less, get shot less.

[lavish sundial]

true

[bitter mason]

Shots to the player need to be more deadly, but in turn the player needs to be shot less
Most levels will probably end with you full of holes rn

[lavish sundial]

maybe the devs could add a feature where you have limit meds cuz everythime is tart bleeding i can use a tq forever

no limits also if i get shot in my leg i dont tq my arm that doesnt make sense

[astral warren]

The player was already made more vulnerable with this most recent update. The damage cap now comes AFTER the armour reduction amount, so the player ends up seeing more damage.

[astral warren]

how would you know, have you been shot in the leg before? 😤

[bitter mason]

Funny I've still taken tons of hits but yeah
Suspects need to be more varied in their aggression and it has to be far more possible to get through a level without injury if you actually play correctly
So no more magic wall banging

[lavish sundial]

Also we need people using drugs actively so it’s realistic

[astral warren]

For instance, before the DLC: 135 damage > capped to 70 0.3 for steel's armour damage reduction = 21, but now it works like 135 * 0.3 = 40.5, and the damage cap only stops it from exceeding 70 after the armour calculation.

[bitter mason]

I think the methheads just need actual methhead voice lines rather than that generic dude voice

[astral warren]

Ceramic stops all damage when struck, so that may be why you can sustain more hits than you think makes sense.

[astral warren]

"GOD DAMN ZAPPO AGENTS!!"

[bitter mason]

Yeah ceramic all the way lol

[astral warren]

But when it shatters it's worse than kevlar as far as damage reduction is concerned, lmao

[bitter mason]

Yeah usually don't take chest hits too much
Everything goes to the arms and legs lol

[astral warren]

Also stopping a bleed always puts you back to at least half health, so that's why you may seem invulnerable sometimes, especially with a steel plate setup.

I have not experienced suspects tarkoving me as much as of recent.

I only receive leg shots from close range shot gun blasts, or distant handgun shots. Understandably having a 4 inch sight radius can make hitting someone far away in center of mass challenging.

[stark kiln]

So I've been playing through swat 4 for the first time and I'm enjoying the heck out of it.

Been thinking about getting ron, but I hear a lot of naysayers talking about bad suspect ai, that you have to play the game like a tier 1 operator rather than a cop.

My question is; is the game a true successor to swat 4, or nah?

[astral warren]

Well, not only, but most typically.

[astral warren]

Considering there's a 90 pound 4'8" woman that can mag dump an M14 in full auto accurately from 20 meters away, I would say, yeah, I think RoN is a little unreasonable sometimes, just like SWAT 4 may have been.

[stark kiln]

Honestly I think swat 4 has been pretty realistic so far, as far as I can tell

[stark kiln]

But that is very funny

[rigid crypt]

I haven't played in a while did they buff the recoil?

[astral warren]

It's not realistic, but it's funny. It's also funny, but not realistic, that suspects have different health on different levels, meaning 7.62x51 AP will NOT 1 hit incap on gas station, but it WILL on 23 MBs

[astral warren]

They made more of the guns worth using by making the stinkiest of them not bounce/float so much. I don't think they touched the 10mm MP5, though, which is a damn shame, since they're too lazy to make a damage curve for it that isn't .45ACP.

[stark kiln]

😐

[astral warren]

Yeah isn't that fucking stupid?

[stark kiln]

Man that's uh... a choice

[astral warren]

This game basically needs a spreadsheet to play, here, let me get you one: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1d89lpFDA9lo_v13iBlnhtuA6DvuUnKfPaeo0d4RBGJ4
credit to @crude prism for making and updating this regularly.

[bitter mason]

It's not as bad as it was, they're less aimbotty and instant but they have less variety in behaviours than swat 4 and the roe is much more forgiving. You'll usually shoot more suspects than arrest unless you go less lethal unlike swat 4

[astral warren]

That's because RoN suspects still don't surrender when there's 5 armoured men pointing rifles at them most of the time.

Devs just understand that modern criminals are dumber than ever, and think they're John Wick.

[bitter mason]

Just slightly different ways the morale system works I think
And they don't seem to actually run away without shooting at you first
Unlike swat 4 where the game would roll a dice on if a suspect fights you or runs away based on their level specific archetype

Idk how Ron does it specifically but I get the feeling you have to fully drain their morale for a surrender rather than being a chance

[stark kiln]

I think the way swat 4 handles it is more interesting. It's unpredictable, but you can design it in a way that makes sense for each level.

[astral warren]

RoN wants you to startle, and then expose yourself to multiple angles by running up to, and meleeing the suspect, which is apparently more demoralizing than being shot.

[bitter mason]

Ron does have some cool things with the ai that unfortunately don't show up much like hiding under and in things or shooting themselves
They do take human shields a lot now tho

[astral warren]

They want you to do fighting game combos in a fucking tactical shooter and it makes my piss boil. I have a gun, and armour, they have a smaller gun, and no armour. I'm pointing my gun at them, they're not pointing their gun at me. Unless they just actually want to die, they're putting that shit down.

[bitter mason]

Yeah swat 4s suspect ai is near perfect imo
Atleast elite force swat 4

[astral warren]

Some moron was trying to defend having to stinger grenade AND THEN pepper spray someone so they'd surrender.

[stark kiln]

I'm playing vanilla lol

[bitter mason]

Wowa
Elite force is very vanilla+ just with some additions and balance changes
Pretty sure they're fairly similar in some ways tho

[stark kiln]

Gotcha

[stark kiln]

Yeah that's a little overkill lmao

[bitter mason]

But yeah swat 4 does suspect way better. Makes them all feel very human
Ready or Not does suffer from it's suspects being complete irredeemable psychos with their only purposes in life being to kill you a lot of the time

[stark kiln]

Though tbf, I do oftentimes have to use cs or a flash and then follow with a tazer to get suspects to surrender

[astral warren]

If they're T-800s why the fuck are we arresting them? They need to be superheated into plasma and dissipated into the atmosphere.

[astral warren]

That's why RoN is ass.

[bitter mason]

Grenades and less lethals will often get a surrender but they're maditory
You can surprise suspects like in swat 4 or get a surrender without using a less lethal or grenades first

[astral warren]

Surprise in RoN is almost worse because it makes them hesitate and walk away, and make you have to clear sight lines while following them. It's better to just shoot them in the chest immediately after pressing F because the game considers that to be okay for ROE.

[bitter mason]

Yeah tends to happen in swat 4 because of the morale system and it works
Don't get that too much in Ron nowadays I think but can still happen and just ends up feeling more jank than anything

[astral warren]

Game is basically just NPC shooting simulator atm, and probably always will be because VOID eats crayons.

[stark kiln]

Saying that in their own discord is crazyyy haha

[bitter mason]

I'm sure ppl have said worse

[stark kiln]

But anyways, yeah, guess I'll stay away from ron for now, unless they get their shit sorted

[bitter mason]

I'd still recommend giving it a go if u got tha money tbh it is fun
But quite different from swat 4
There are mods that might help but won't really iron out the general jank and readability issues

[stark kiln]

Shame

[bitter mason]

I was put off at first cause every footage I saw when the game was in early access was just people shooting all of the suspects when I wanted something more like swat 4

In a vacuum the game is pretty good but with the added swat 4 experience the issues definitely show

[visual rock]

do achievments work for you guys? we did Way Out West... my mate got it i didnt, also The Fool.. we both got killed by Mrs Volt and also nothing.. but Beat Cop worked flawlessly

[tame willow]

hey yea me and my friend tried get the achievment ¨Way out west¨ and we are abit confused by how the rules work to do it
is it only possible on campain with AI? since u cant put your revolver away at any time?

[livid sluice]

The having to alert your presence never made sense in situations when an active threat is on scene, like legit terrorists or smth like that

[shy tulip]

I always took it as erm, the probably reality of SWAT work. You do not show up on scene first, it's probably been a few hours, I suspect they'd be "aware" but they're not gonna hold their gun for like 5 hours straight without getting cramps

[visual rock]

we did it in 2 man.. my mate got it.... but now that im thinking about it i got -50 for one kill..... so maybe thats the issue

[tame willow]

really? u gotta get an S?

[shy tulip]

You can have the AI play for you, the requirement is just that you use nothing but the revolver

[livid sluice]

Mhm, yeah. Kinda wish the outside of the maps had more than a couple swat trucks

[shy tulip]

No.

[tame willow]

aa okay

[tame willow]

no?

[visual rock]

nah,, we got and C i think and my mate got it i didnt

[shy tulip]

You just have to beat the map normally but with only using the magnum, no bangs, no other equipment, etc

[tame willow]

soo can i still strap civs and look at tablet? since wich means im putting the revolver away

[shy tulip]

I want to say you cannn.. but I might be wrong, I am not sure

There are guides on steam for this that'll be more specific

[tame willow]

aa okay ig ill try find something thats newest bout this

[visual rock]

my mate was using shield and was OK.... i was using r

[tame willow]

damn

[visual rock]

RAM a that might also be why i didnt get it 😄 no clue

[tame willow]

aa lol

ig ill try
equip revolver n shield at start and see how that goes

[shy tulip]

I believe the ram will disqualify you

[supple star]

where is the missing persons container in hide and seek?

[shy tulip]

I don't remember if that one can move, I know the others can

[supple star]

it doesnt move

we have never found it

[shy tulip]

I remember finding it on the ||left side of the main warehouse, outside. Like the exact opposite side of the warehouse where the tower is.||

[supple star]

found it, thx!

[bitter mason]

Enjoy the only unique voiced story part of the game

[scarlet vale]

Anyone else have an issue after the recent updates where your data is corrupted or nah

[bitter mason]

Remove mods

[shy tulip]

#❓modding-faq-archive

[scarlet vale]

I did, I cleaned the game and shi out so hopefully im fine

[stuck siren]

moral officer or sbags? trying to run through missions without having to worry about stress

[bitter mason]

idk about the stats and stuff
but I know ppl cheesed commander by quickly running gas station with less lethals to get an easy morale boost for the squad

[crude prism]

assuming you ARE going to arrest ~some~ suspects/all civilians, you'll get way more value out of 1 morale officer than you would 1 sbags

[graceful tapir]

so true

[static slate]

wtf, suspect fkg one shoting me even tho im full armored, its so annoying

[crude prism]

🦐 issue

[stone hearth]

are you guys ready or not

[lone raven]

Spoilers.

[torpid roost]

Instantly refunding the game. I played for 300 hours and still hadn't got to that part yet. So Joever

[lone raven]

The secret elevator in station.

[torpid roost]

Well I mean come on now, every nows about that. Just like everyone knows that if you complete the game on Ironman, no deaths, all S ranks, while only using taser. You unlock the SWAT 4 operators as characters

[stone hearth]

shit my mistake original gangster

[stone hearth]

greased palms s rank is a genuine violation of human rights

[torpid roost]

Oh definitely, it sucks ass to try and do even normally, let alone when you're trying to shoot someone a mile away using beanbags

[proven axle]

im not

[lone raven]

Spoilers.

[stone hearth]

no i can hit usually but the inside is genuinely vietnam, u have no idea where ur at

[proven axle]

greased palms isnt that bad. one of my favourite maps!

[lone raven]

Charlie in the trees!

[torpid roost]

GODDAMNIT, KAMINSKY THEY KEEP RUINING THE INTENSE LORE OF THE GAME, HEPL

[proven axle]

AI accuracy is bonke4s in this game

doesnt seem to be affected by their movement or rly anything

[stone hearth]

mods, crush his skull.

[proven axle]

AI see you for a split second and full auto your entire body in a cone

[torpid roost]

Mods, put him in the Port Hokan containers

[lone raven]

And shoot through three layers of material when they see a millimetre of your finger at 30 meters.

[stone hearth]

[lone raven]

They're both good and bad at the same time.

[proven axle]

Dude I get shot through walls consistently on like every map

[lone raven]

I like them shooting through walls, but not with the see-through accuracy they have now.

[proven axle]

One of my favourites is:
AI sees you
strafs behind a wall at mach 2
full auto spray through wall

[lone raven]

I like them running and gunning, but not with the instant animations blasting you in the head.

[stone hearth]

mindjot security after getting a 20 year prison sentence/actually getting their head blown off after shooting at cops

[proven axle]

To be fair to mindjot the lore is sad

Read the briefing 🙏

[stone hearth]

i cant im not home

[proven axle]

How much is Amos paying his staff btw lol

[lone raven]

10 VOIDbux

[stone hearth]

3 peanuts

[proven axle]

they will straight up get into a shootout with the police for this guy

[torpid roost]

Ive been kinda half and half on the Ai. Its definitely not nearly as aimbotty as it used to be, but sometimes I wish their aim was more..realistic I guess? I wish it really felt like there was a big difference between suspects and their level of experience with weapons, one that you could feel and tell with each level.

[stone hearth]

its like they had 200 sensitivity before

[proven axle]

It kind of just seems like it's a cone with minimal adjustment for conditions.

Full auto doesnt seem to trend upwards either.

[lone raven]

Legit.

I can't even get on sights while they've raised and hit me twice sometimes.

Gunfighter mod is almost a requirement.

[static slate]

can i make suspect surrender if i shoot them in the legs when they shoot me ?

[lone raven]

Sometimes.

[lone raven]

This game is made for the canted point shooting I think.

[meager epoch]

can somebody give me some tips on how to s rank cause i wanna do my first s ranks

[acoustic ridge]

dont give ai secondary ammo, use wedges and gas, dont headshot people with the beanbag

[meager epoch]

should i give all of my ais bean bag shotguns

[acoustic ridge]

some people say the ai can accidently kill with beanbag but ive never had that problem

(for reference ive done like 10/18 missions giving ai beanbags, they havent killed anyone yet)

[meager epoch]

also is pepperball good for s ranks because ive never used it and idk what its for

[acoustic ridge]

its a sidegrade to beanbag, less reliable but you can spam it around corners, it had aoe

[warm orchid]

It was a bigger problem in previous versions of the game, when the ai would sometimes shoot for the head. The Ai nowdays I think exclusively aims for the stomach or lower chest, so its not a problem anymore.

[lone raven]

Not finding that much. Still head seekers for me.

[shy tulip]

They aim for the chest, what most people don't think about or overlook is that uh, your arms are infront of your chest.

I didn't really think about it until we had an EA build where bullets wouldn't properly penetrate AI arms, their forearm/hand could block like anything and everything and make them really spongey

[lone raven]

That'd be horrible for hostage taking AI.

[acoustic ridge]

swat ai should aim for a sec and headshot a hostage taker with a %chance of sucess
alot more realistic imo than magdumping the human shield AND hostage taker

[warm orchid]

I've had the ai kill suspects before, but not since 1.0. I've done every mission S rank with ai except relapse and gave everyone bean bags. Never had an ai kill someone. Not that it isn't possible though, they just never did it for me.

Before 1.0 though, oh yeah, all the time.

[warm rivet]

j

[stark kiln]

wait they actually just mag dump? lmfao

[umbral oar]

arent the chemlights supposed to blow up when you shoot them

[lone raven]

Why are you shooting them?

[frail quartz]

How else are we supposed to drink what's inside without opening them?

[lone raven]

The green soup.

[jade apex]

I like how the ATF is evil and incompetent enough for them to be unchanged in RoN

Not like the other organizations are good or anything, but they just aren't the ATF

[toxic palm]

Theres only two weapons they should add, purely to appease me, an m16 with the a2 fixed carry handle, but a4 furniture (solid stock, front rails) w a 3x colt scope, and either a cz75 or a pt938/940

I am very normal about these weapons

[full thistle]

A 20" would absolutely be awesome in the game

The longest barrel we have is 16" which is neat but I yearn for the true ballistic performance of 5.56

That being said I doubt it'll happen because good luck even trying to frame a doorway

The most I could probably see is another 16" but in a bigger boolet

[stark kiln]

full barrel M16

A4 variant, burst fire and single fire

A weapon made for war. Badass.

[full thistle]

I honestly have never used anything other than semi in RoN

Then again I've used rifles only for the most part

[shy tulip]

You should try the MP7, there is a certain... satisfaction in just spraying down a suspect with a mag, even if they're dead halfway through

[full thistle]

Civillians are too dumb for me to trust full auto personally

[shy tulip]

the issue with rifles is just recoil + you won't see me hit the ground

[buoyant fern]

Id use Subs if the bullets did the dmg they should

[shy tulip]

Shit happens, I 100% blasted the navy vet on Brisa my last playthrough cause he kicked open the door I was approaching

[full thistle]

I've used some of the AR-9s but nothing much, if I really really hate someone I bring shotguns with slugs

[buoyant fern]

The devs dont seem to understand that a .22 can be just as lethal as a .50bmg if put in the right spot

[full thistle]

One time a suspect decided to surrender then try shooting me point blank and I magdumped out of shock

Both his hands were shot off

[full thistle]

Speaking of that, an american 180 would go insanely hard

Lvl 4 armor? Coolio but I have 277 angry bees that disagree

[stark kiln]

rising storm 2 has a better balistics and wound system than ron from what I'm hearing from you guys

And thats a war game lmao

[lone raven]

Ballistics, never heard of it.

[frail quartz]

Ballistics? What does that guy who makes all the weapon mods have to do with this?

[lone raven]

Ballistics? In my Ready or Not?!

[stark kiln]

...wow, that's way more depressing of an answer than I could have possibly expected lmfao

Yeah I'll be sticking with swat 4 for the forseeable future

[lone raven]

You have height over bore at least.

[stark kiln]

Well... that's one thing I guess. Better than siege lol

[quick jacinth]

the most ready or not has ballistics wise is wall pen with ap and jhp but that's about it

i guess suspect armor is there but that just equates to bringing ap on maps where suspects have armor above 2a or bringing jhp for about 80% of the other maps

[stark kiln]

huh... yeah that makes sense

[shy tulip]

Don't forget the shotgun deciding whether or not it wants to take off a limb

[lone raven]

Key is taking off the limb then trying to zip them.

[fleet talon]

Is it just me or is elephant next to impossible now? A random civ on the other side of the map no matter where I spawn just gets capped and I fail

[jade apex]

That's how I felt, in commander mode it feels impossible to get perfect (A or S)

[fleet talon]

Sucks, too bad it doesn't matter I have the valley of the dolls bug on all my playthroughs

So even if I do get an A on elephant it wouldn't matter because Valley of the dolls is permanently unresolved :/

[jade apex]

Anyways, it would be cool if RoN had simulated noises. I'd like to hear reverberations when in warehouses and sounds get more faint when walls are in the way and such. Maybe these are in the game and I just don't notice it, but if they aren't it would be nice.

[fleet talon]

Can't even access dlc I paid for

[jade apex]

How does that happen?

[fleet talon]

No clue but I have it on all three of my playthroughs

[jade apex]

shit...

I hope I dont have it

[fleet talon]

I don't even understand how it happens

[jade apex]

Welp, I suppose I will find out soonish

[stable kernel]

Unresolved means you did not complete all main and soft objectives. I have yet to see proof this can be bugged

[steady mist]

what bug on valley?

[jade apex]

On the hospital missino one of my members walked across the entire map to get a piece of evidence. I love that AI guy, he saved me so much time

[fleet talon]

I could record it I suppose, I completed them all, checked, found all the evidence and when I complete it, it never grades me and just kicks me back to the the station

[acoustic ridge]

yes, they fully just magdump both the civillian and the suspect
they do not care

then they get all stressed after it (its their fault stupid)

[lone raven]

RON moment

[stark kiln]

sounds like a sentence from a very different game

[thick ibex]

Why go full auto tbh? that's just a lot of recoil and a waste of ammo

[jade apex]

When are we getting lethal grenade options?

[shy tulip]

We technically had one, if you count the rotary launcher one shotting teammates if you shot them with it

[sacred temple]

Try playing in Safe Mode.

[stone bay]

Hello guys
Help pls, anybody knows how to check my results inside the commander mode on each map? Cause I have all maps S-ranked, but i still dont understand why steam achievment Medal of Valor 17/18
I dont want to make 17 maps to S again

Yesterday i made to S Port Hookan and achievment from 16/18 goes to 17/18, bu port hookan is the last map..

[worn girder]

How's the AI on cherryessa so god damn difficult, can hardly make it through the front gate without dying

[stone bay]

use side door 😄

[worn girder]

What side door

[stone bay]

throug kitchen rooms

left side from main gates

[worn girder]

Isn't the kitchen like in the house further in? I go up the stairs and through the gate, I die immediately

[stone bay]

if u mean the first doors, like when u entering the mission, so if u go some forward and wont turn right to the main gates, u will find side doors, thats more safe to enter

[worn girder]

Yeah no there's no main entrance, I go up the little ramp thing at spawn, then up the stairs, then through the gate, where I often die
It's less of a gate and more of a single door

[stone bay]

we may go together if u need help o teammates

[worn girder]

Already playing with friends, but we're just not succeeding

I haven't updated RoN in a while and steam's shouting at me, would that be the cause of the bad AI?

[stone bay]

last update was 2.08 i think, when did u update last time?

[worn girder]

I haven't updated since March of last year

[stone bay]

omg of cause, i dont understand why game still works 😄

[drifting sand]

I mean, front doors are generally a bad idea when breaching.

And general criticisms about the cracked AI notwithstanding; cherryessa isn't the worst of them.

That dishonour belongs to the post office.

[worn girder]

Unfortunately I can't enter any other way, only through the front gate

[drifting sand]

If you really want to go through the front, at least use some of the tools you have; C2 and flash

[stone bay]

yeah, cherrosa before 1.0 was much much difficult

[drifting sand]

For all the wrong reasons IMO; just cramped and confusing.

Still, wouldn't mind seeing a map with more vertical and underground areas

[stone stump]

and your friends haven't updated the game either? really weird

[worn girder]

Yeah no we heard criticisms about 1.0 aand decided to not, steam doesn't like it but we just launch with the exe and it works

[drifting sand]

My brother in christ.

Update your damned game.

[stone bay]

😄

[worn girder]

Ah yeah no I'm just messing around

[covert aurora]

xD

[karmic karma]

glorious adam update shitposting

[worn girder]

Me and a few pals are playing Adam update for fun to just see what it was like back then, shoutout to SteamCMD, but yeah, I have the latest update too

[stone bay]

ah, bro playing old version of cherossa\

[worn girder]

Yep

[drifting sand]

You deserve your misery for that

[worn girder]

lmao

[covert aurora]

lmfao

[drifting sand]

That said.

Go through the tunnels and use gas.

The shield also helps.

[covert aurora]

it was raid

[worn girder]

I waited three hours to download this god damn update so there was misery even before I launched the game

[drifting sand]

Okay.

Just to confirm.

What update are you on and what version of Cherryessa are talking about?

[worn girder]

We were messing around on Adam update, cherryessa raid, we didn't need the help I just thought it'd be funny to mess around and see people's reactions

[drifting sand]

Fine.

If you're still looking for misery; try the Hostel map from the DLC, or the Post Office, whatever strikes your masochistic fancy.

[stone bay]

port hookan with taser btw

[covert aurora]

lol

[worn girder]

Oh we're gonna suffer plenty when we go back, just going on to current version to see if we got any better from misery

[stone bay]

r u with friends doing S-rank ?

[worn girder]

Nah, no S rank, but with friends, yeah

[stone bay]

u dumb in misery and suffering 😄

[worn girder]

Just purely to have fun
We waited like a week for everyone to get on at once to play Adam update together

[stone bay]

try go S

[karmic karma]

cherryessa farm adam update was the REAL mental health system

[sacred temple]

super easy btw. just equip AI with the strongest lethal weapons, pull your taser, and let them solo the mission

[worn girder]

Not a fan of s ranking personally

[stone bay]

scary

[stone bay]

i ll get the achievment after this?

[small sparrow]

Anyone ever had a trap bug where there is no trap on a door but you get exploded by one anyway?

[sacred temple]

Yeah LMAO. As long as you, the player, do what the achivement says (ie. Taser only) and don't command AI to use grenades, they'll do it

[stone bay]

i tried the Narco with shield, and i didint get achievment. It says i should use only pistol

[sacred temple]

Yeah. Shield doesn't count.

Your weapon doesn't even have to be loaded, either. You can have an empty pistol in your hands and as long as you don't use any other weapon, it'll count.

[worn girder]

Yep ^
Any one of those "Complete mission using only x" can be cheesed, even with friends. One person stays behind, the others clear, whoever has the setup for the achievement gets it

[stone bay]

and magnum also, i dropped one chemlight and didnt get anything

[sacred temple]

Yeah. Don't use anything.

Let AI drop chems. Don't tell them to use grenades, though.

[small sparrow]

Fyi, that only applies to you. You can literally send your swat officers in with rifles, shotguns, sub machine guns whatever so long as you instanlty switch to your pistol and only ever use it, you will get it.

You also need at least a C on the mission

[sacred temple]

I just equipped the SR-18s on every officer and then just used .357/Pistol/Taser and hung back, letting them clear everything for me.

EZ.

[stone bay]

ok, got it

but still i have a question about commander mode

[sacred temple]

And, again: no shields, no grenades. Don't deploy anything yourself.

The only achievement I'd say is more or less impossible solo is Meldonin.

[small sparrow]

I didn't know it only applies to you so when I did it with the swat officers I just told them to hold and I did it twice both times I didn't get it because one time I accidently used a stun grenade and the other time I got an E because one of the fuckers took a hostage and the second I peaked through the door he shot the hostage in the head which gave me a -200 civilian

I put myself through hell for nothing, then easily did it with swat officers

[sacred temple]

Yeah, that's hell LMAO

not remotely worth the hassle, just cheese it

[stone bay]

oh i get it, but in solo its unreal
i got it with friends, 2 went 1 floor, 3 -- the second

[small sparrow]

That mission with pistol only is fucking hell. They mostly all have tier 3 even some have tier 4 armor, so even if you use the 5.7 with AP it takes 3 body shots to take down a tier 3 and fucking EIGHT on a tier four to the torso, combine the fact they all spam full auto and the maps weird outdoor layout with open combat with a lot of sight obsturcting objects with the fact the AI can easily see AND shoot through them and yeah, doing it with just a pistol with no swat officers is hell

My tactic was just to aim for the head

[sacred temple]

Narcos? Yeah, just let your AI carry you.

[small sparrow]

Yeah I didn't know this until i looked it up and found that fact on reddit

Like a full hour of pain for nothing

[stone bay]

narcos with pistol was easy, as for me, without officers

[small sparrow]

Yeah sure it was champ

[stone bay]

so anybody knows how to chek results of each map in commander mode?
i had coplete 18 maps, but medal of valor is still 17/18.
i made all to S

[acoustic ridge]

narcos with magnum only solo, same requirements as out west

[stone bay]

should i make this mess again from the first map?

[acoustic ridge]

check your tattoos?, theres also a score thing in bottom right for each mission

[stone bay]

i have all

[acoustic ridge]

go to mission selector, on each mission there should be a little score thing n it

[stone bay]

i have all S in score screen

i can show, but still i want the achievment 😄

[acoustic ridge]

idk, if u actually have all s'd u could just cheese it with a mod like no mercy for achivement

speedrun with extra hp mod and no mercy

[stone bay]

im ready to cry

[acoustic ridge]

install extra hp, and no mercy and just speedrun everything until it works i guess

you can play recklessly with extra hp

[stone bay]

is it counting with mods? cause before 1.0 i played with cosmetcis mods and havent any scores

[lone raven]

🤝

[simple ore]

does running safe mode count out the nexus/pak mods too

[shell fern]

pretty sure it deletes mod folder so I guess yes? I have no actual idea I just think it does that

Or atleast deletes what’s inside it

[sacred temple]

It doesn't.

It just doesn't load its contents.

The actual files remain (and will be active again if you run the game standard).

[plain quartz]

Does the entire lobby need the DLC to play it?

[torpid roost]

Nope! Just whoever is hosting, they can select the new maps for everyone to play on, even people who dont own the dlc.

[lone raven]

Nope! Just whoever is hosting, they can select the new maps for everyone to play on, even people who dont own the dlc.

[torpid roost]

Thanks for @ing him, I was thinking about pinging him for it, since I forgot to with my message

[slim fern]

my team is just standing still and I'm not able to command blue or red. this is ridiculous

NOW THEY JUST TELEPORTED AFTER I THREW A FLASHBANG WTF

[safe veldt]

is pvp coming in this game?

[plain osprey]

yeah but it's not their top priority atm

[acoustic ridge]

used to exist as a mod, idk if its updated

[safe veldt]

well then its false advertising why are they mentioning multiplayer on their steam page when it does not even exist

[plain osprey]

PvP will return in the future

[slim fern]

Co-op play you buffoon

[safe veldt]

Co-op isnt actual multiplayer

[bitter mason]

…
Are you being serious?

[slim fern]

He is

[bitter mason]

Respectfully that is the dumbest thing ive read in a long time

[safe veldt]

If you cant identify the difference between a co-op and a multiplayer game its not my fault how dumb you are

[slim fern]

Multi
Player

Case in point

[bitter mason]

Man
Multiplayer is multiple players
Coop is multiple players lmao

[safe veldt]

thats the dumbest explanation of multiplayer ive heard so far

[late isle]

The misconception of Multiplayer being a PvP arena style thing comes from CoD, with Multiplayer being listed as a separate from Warzone and other modes like Zombies and whatever the co-op thing is called.

[safe veldt]

there we go someone who actually understand gaming

[late isle]

I'm literally saying that's a misconception

[bitter mason]

Lmaooo

[safe veldt]

lol i misread

[slim fern]

He didnt get the memo

[bitter mason]

All of those modes are multiplayer
Theyre just different modes

[late isle]

Well it confirms my theory at least

[stone bay]

Does this conversation go to Tahiti?

[bitter mason]

Multiplayer literally means multiple players
Its in the damn name

[slim fern]

I NEED MORE MONEY

[late isle]

And co-op comes from cooperative multiplayer...if that wasn't obvious

[amber dock]

I thought coop meant single player

[slim fern]

I’ve figured out why my AI team mates were wack: +468,000 files in my temp folder. My computer couldn’t handle it and it spread to the game

[summer plover]

aight i'm losing my mind here, whenever i try to launch outside of safe mode i get a serialisation error message that says corrupt data found, please verify files
I've verified files and there's no issue there, and it launches fine in safe mode

[jolly verge]

#❓modding-faq-archive message

[woven ether]

why is my sight pixelated

[jolly verge]

Disable dlss

[lone raven]

Squint harder.

[dense quest]

Swat ai has become absolutely atrocious

I asked them to flash and clear, they throw a flash and don't enter the room

Search and secure almost never works either

[dense quest]

I just saw this was listed in #❗known-issues-and-fixes

The ai doesn't listen to commands in general anyway

Wait it says shotgun and clear but it happened to me with open and clear 💀

[woven ether]

tysm

[hasty crag]

anyone else why my grade for twisted nerve isnt getting registered in the main menu

in the mission select screen

it still says its unresolved

oh i didnt complete all objectives

[slim fern]

best way at clearing narcos?

[amber dock]

That’s the funny part, you don’t

[slim fern]

Figured as much, After the first house its just hell from all ends

[amber dock]

Exactly, but if you genuinely want advice, luck and tons of CS gas even if you don’t wanna S

[slim fern]

I've also known that doing anything with the breaching shotgun will break the team mates.

[dense quest]

I think shield is good for narcos

you can cross windows with the shield so they don't shoot you through it and also lets you peek the hard open areas without dying and letting you figure out where they're shooting from

[bitter mason]

the windows are pretty cool since you can throw grenades right through them

just be sure not to get spotted

[drifting sand]

I'm just wondering; what's a good situation for rubber ball 'nades?

I get flashbangs, and I get CS (lackluster as its range and duration may be).

But why the not frags?

[bitter mason]

I still dont really know the specifics, Stingers I think do more damage so they are capable of incapping suspects more than flashes. Might have a higher impact on suspect morale too making them more effective than flashes. However theres no way to reduce or resist a stingers effect so you have to stay clear of the blast

quick test, they're abut the same in terms of stun length, 7-8 seconds give or take

they also roll differently.
Stingers roll more

I think stingers might have a slightly bigger range, but not by much it seems
probably the same range

takes about 5 stingballs to incap the civvie in the station

takes a whole lot more to incap him with flashbangs, to the point I've gone over 15 and he is still up

I see you have forgiven car

[sharp dirge]

only cus i can use it to mock you :3

[bitter mason]

You have failed, I am flattered to be compared to car

[sharp dirge]

constant yapping

[bitter mason]

constant hating and whinging

[sharp dirge]

nuh uh

[bitter mason]

yuh huh

[sharp dirge]

nuh uh

[bitter mason]

yuh huh x10000000000 no take backs

[sharp dirge]

😔

you smell no take backs

[bitter mason]

of roses no take backs

[sharp dirge]

i don't know how to counter that

[sharp dirge]

i would shoot that thing if i could

[wraith ocean]

just reached neon tomb in commander mode, I've cleared it before in pre commander mode ron but.. its pissing me off
my shield ai officer uses any excuse to put his shield away usually resulting in him or someone else being shot dead
god i wish the ai only put away their shield if you told them too

oh and being able to assign a designated arrest officer would be great too..

[slim fern]

I'm not mentally prepared to S greased palms

[frail pier]

You could run nothing but pepperball mags and be fine. Mail room will be the only real difficult part.

[slim fern]

My method would have me clearing the outer part first then inching through the front entrance. Its unreliable but I nearly got an S rank doing that

Just gotta keep playing

[frail pier]

Yeah you can do that too. You only need like 2-3 wedges if you don't want them rotating out. Just wedge off that single door in the beginning then wedge off the other door by the exterior building leading into there.

[slim fern]

👍 (I'm gonna die so much on this level)

[dense quest]

It's much more doable now

I had to clear it on pre changed suspect ai and I was new to the game 💀

Took me like 5 tries

And I never dared to S it

Those who S'd it back then are cracked at the game

[sharp dirge]

was easy

[halcyon mountain]

🤣 lots of gas and flashbangs

[steep ridge]

i hate the caves of coyote

so cramped and in some areas so big i hate them so much

[steep panther]

hello

im new here

[steep ridge]

same

[steep panther]

and uhhh

[steep ridge]

oops wrong sticker

[steep panther]

i want to know if there are any inappopriate missions because my religion does not allow (naked people)

does anyone know abt that

[dense quest]

Yes, last mission

[steep panther]

what level is it 1 to 10

[dense quest]

I think that's the only instance of nudity

Idk its number but it's called hide and seek

Also if you have the dlc, narcos has nudity

[steep panther]

as in what type of nudity

[stable kernel]

And sullivans slope as well

[dense quest]

Wait sullivans slope has nudity? I never saw that wtf

[stable kernel]

Gerard puts it on display

[dense quest]

||naked ladies in a container, human trafficking||

[steep ridge]

doesnt neon tomb have some like strippers or wtv

[dense quest]

Yes but not naked

[stable kernel]

Nothing explicitly exposed on neon

[dense quest]

Oh on the projector?

[steep ridge]

no

on his model his balls are out

[dense quest]

Oh LOL how did I never notice

[steep ridge]

did not want to see that while mirroring the door

[dense quest]

I mean I'm glad I didn't 💀

[steep ridge]

if you get anything less than an S on sullivans slope your just dumb asf