#👮ron-discussion
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Fuck these suspects and their fucking guns.
Do not fuck the suspects guns
I have an i9 Nvidia build and I can not fix the screen tearing at all without going borderlessless full-screen and enabling gsync, which I don't like to do
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Lawl
I've got to ask, what happened to my 50 frames that went missing between updates?
The update defaulted settings to borderless windowed mode. Do you get some frames back if you switch it back to full screen, assuming you haven't already?
Hold up
Lemme go and see. That may be my issue, and by god I swear if it is I'mma be mad.
Hahaha, it happens to all of us eventually xD
Nope. It seems to be maxed at 75 since I had it before the update, and that is annoying.
Or, better yet, may just be the framerate the game is running at, which, why?
THERE WE GO. It was the fact I didn't have the FSR3 Ultra Performance on.
Pog
any tips on helping your fellow officers in commander mode clear a room without needing to pull out their lethal side arm?
was just working on clearing mindjot with non lethals and when clearing the main data room that is quite open. Came across 3-4 shooters at once and two of my officers went lethal after running out of non-lethal ammo.
So. The thugs that wear their backpacks on their chest. I presume that's considered light armour?
nope
Oh that's just flavour then?
It's does nothing on them
Well it's nice flavour on them at least. Very much something I could see guys like that doing if they just need something that might help them.
maybe beanbags? it more likely is flavor texting that is where their ammo bag is kept
beanbags ignore armor, backpack is just visual
I think they just have the backpacks on their chest to stuff their things quicker
I suspect closer to armour, even if stats don't reflect it. The idea being if something in their bag just happens to catch or deflect a bullet enough to save them. Easily what I'd see some thug doing if he was suddenly stuck in a police cordon and desperately thinks he can fight his way out of a prison cell.
any updates on a fix to the game deleting saves?
Nah cuz you prolly deleted those yourself
Clean save = delete save
I want the classic Glock irons to be called the “Glock Bucket Sights” 
I like buckets
The front sight is a ball and the post sight is the bucket
U gotta put the ball in the bucket 
Judging by your name, I can prob tell 
There should be a religion around buckets
I actually call the Classic Glock sights the bucket sights tho
there was one in europe
Not the bucket i mean
there where several wars over it too
I wouldn't understand one of your kind to understand what bucket i mean
It takes one to know one
You talking about that period where the pope and the Holy Roman emperor was having a pissing match on who rlly held the power?
You say that if it is was one period
anyway someone can make a new version or send a similar mod of ragdolls return
https://www.nexusmods.com/readyornot/mods/2171?tab=videos
ron death animations are so wacky
No its like uh
Barbarossa, Friedrich II Staufer, bunch of others too
Popes back then were really pety
Especially with Heinrich, conquers jerusalem and pope still refuses to lift his church ban because he started the campaign a bit later than promised
Charlemagne was and still is a famous example of that power dynamic
But to be honest charlemagne is a boring topic
The most fun part about charlemagne is arguing with frenchies what nationality he had
Charlemagne appointed the Pope but the Popes were the ones who crowned the emperor of Rome so uh a bit of problems there
Ah 
So I heard 
In my honest opinion the best time be french is during the height of the Roman empire
Because you'd be a funny italian
nah two towns worshiped the same water bucket and fought several small wars over who kept it
Do you think void has plans to bring back PVP or it’s it just scrapped?, also are the guns from PVP going to be brought to the single player/CO-OP mode
I really hope they at least put some of the weapons in single player, like the Uzi
That war never happened
Uzi is a criminal gun
technically lawmaker and dorms have PVP spawns, but the pvp mode itself hasnt been touched since it was added to the files in the 1.0 update so theres potential, but i doubt it

What the actual fuck? I just told my guys to launch and clear a room, and they fucking storm in.
OK, I just S class to all the levels in the new DLC and I have to say this new DLC is amazing. Genuinely super fun and worth it.
yeah clear is to storm in
Narcos is an absolute pain in the ass though, but it’s a Fun challenge
Except they forgot the “launch” part of “launch and clear”
Do they plan on adding female officers or nah?
highly unlikely
Rather unfortunate
maybe another dlc which has a timeskip of 4 more years and now involves protests
manpower stretched etc etc
skill issue, this randomass person did it easily --> @stone bay
How far back did you go to find that?
Tbh so is the “arrest five suspects” objective.
thats the biggest time kill imo
So we got 2 on Twisted Nerve, a bunch of drugs but here we gotta arrest 5 for 8 pills?
not very far, someone sent the message link to me
@fossil hamlet get in here coward
???
hes also always crying about this achievement
I’ve arrested more than five suspects and no completion. I might just start executing motherfuckers at this point.
Hell yeah
were they alive lmao
incap doesnt count
They surrendered, mostly with help from a stinger.
How do you have a cat on your pfp
avatar decoration
How
hm, my issue is tracking down the civi that dip
you can buy those in the discord shop
Hell no
i think theres also some free ones tied to discord quest bs
like there was a crown avatar decoration if you stream fortnite for 15min or smth like that
no it keeps wiping my save files
SWAT have a history of using the UZI
yo does anyone know where the soft objective, find evidence of drugs is on dorms?
the mighty bong
??
sometimes i forget how cracked every damn ai is in this game. i just got oneshot from the entire length of spider and because my resolution scale is turned down i couldnt even see anyhthing but the dudes muzzle flash
meldonin might be the hardest achievement oh my god
5:45 on my best run even with stab vest+g36c
Unfortunately, it repy hardly on luck. Sometimes civilians just hide and make no noise. I got lucky and did it in 3:10 with out soft objective, so it is possible.
You can order ai team mates to search for them, and they'll b-line right to them
SWAT AI can apparently full-auto the VKS
ah thats why
Unless, you they are hiding in a corner and they did not gave up.
Will there ever be lumen support for ready or not? (I know theres a mod for it but it causes light artifacts and makes the shooting range 𝓮𝓿𝓲𝓵)
I want to give a big thanks to @long dome they managed to get me onto the right method of making it so the steam cloud wouldnt delete my save data.. Void need to fix this asap with steam following in suit.. XD
What achievement is Campaign only?
Probably just the permadeath one
how do i ge reshade to work again?
Top floor in the makeshift church with the funky paintings on the walls
Stuff on the altar thingie
found it but thanks
Plot twist: you're the illegal immigrant now
I can yell for compliance with a breach shotgun that does butt fuck all but can't with ram?
why
ok i figured it out, it's this mod, it also adds the drum mag but all of the drum variants kinda suck aiming wise https://www.nexusmods.com/readyornot/mods/4258?tab=files&file_id=14170
Breach shotgun is still a firearm. What are you gonna do with a ram? Lunge at me if I don't comply?
does have betterlasers as well
Ram ur guts
yikes bot attack
yeah i figured out it was a mod
I did I think 4:03, just throw a lot of flashes and never stop, be in move all the time
the new dlc maps can only be played in practice yeah? or am i making that up
Practice and multiplayer
right, thanks brotha
I mean really you should be able to yell with anything in your hands
I dont think what you're holding affects surrender chance at all since its all based on the suspects morale
Why does Rust Belt have to be so damn big? I went back in to see if I could resolve it, but said fuck it after I got turned around for the fifth time.
I was playing the new Mansion from the DLC and no one was at the panic room. And when I went upstairs, the room with the projector was empty. Anyone else experienced this?
guys, if I want to unlock the achievement: The hermit, can I send my officers to therapy?
why is the gas station door glass bullet proof 💀
Because the economic downturn led to an increase in crime, thus leading the glass to be bulletproofed.
yeah but the cashier glass isnt bullet proof...
Interesting. I never noticed.
It's random; the active panic room can either be the second or third floor ones depending on RNG
i searched the whole house 3 times and didnt find the panic room then i looked at them ap and found it
everything else but the front glass isnt bullet proof
dont you love it when your game keeps crashing for no reason :/
I think rust belt is quite reasonably sized, mainly compared to other maps
rust belt probably one of my favourite levels. Just wish the real meat of the music kicked in earlier
I think I've had suspects shoot me through those doors....
I mean, it’s not Relapse by any means but the tunnel system is kind of nuts.
It’s not big, it’s complex
the metal you can shoot through but not the glass
yeah. I actually thought it was pretty straight forward. Quite a linear map if you approach it in a certain way. a few branching paths but they all lead to the same place. I do wish the side tunnels were darker however also
Is Judge from New York in the briefings it sounds like he has an accent that is non-Californian or at least from a different part of California
I dont think its judge doing the briefings
So maybe it’s the chief of police, the guy with the mustache?
It’s interesting you bring that up, because the radio transmissions on Twisted Nerve definitely sound more like NYPD dispatch than LAPD.
Its just some random unnamed guys, the voice is different on different missions
Consistency in RoN lmao... wouldn't mfers yell before smashing a door in? I guess the ram requires a mouth gag to use 🤣
Los Seunos Police department?
More like
Los Seunos Freak Department
What is Ready or not was called Freaky or not and it was the exact same game but the suspects and D platoon got Freaky
Suspects refuse to negotiate... bring out the gimps.
do you think D platoon explore each others bodies?....
Perchance
King owns Judges plate carrier.
Iykyk

The CS gas isn’t thick as smoke anymore. I’m amazed.
Its geniunly so fucking annoying that the actual gameplay is maybe 15m per map and looking for the last civ or suspect is like 20m usually
This^
I am on an S solo run on carries of the vine and have been circling the entire map for 30 minutes now, this is so fun, glad I paid 70$ for this game
Tbh there should be a feature where you can ask your teammates for spare mags.
is there like a dev console that can be used to highlight entities?
I am not willing to lose my ironman save to this shit
Ron is 100gb again now? We've gone full circle?
Is it? I thought it was like 60gb
No? it's still around 56GB
I saw the update taking 45GB of space so I assumed so, my bad if it is not
If you are updating ron from UE4->5 then it's better and faster to delete then reinstall the game
I see, is U5 optional or you must update to stay in the latest version of the game
Nope not optional
Latest version is in UE5, the devs have been saying about porting the game to UE5 for a few months now
keep in mind it defaults to dx12 now too, you can change that in the launch options dx11 might run better on older systems if dx12 is too laggy
Thank you thank you
The ordinary response to an order for compliance should not be gunfire.
Never C2 an unlocked door!
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I have never before seen an Civilian killing a whole swat team
Well done!
SA-58
ok
The sexiest gun as well
Why the fuck does Judge not have a voiceline for breaching charges? That’s just inconsiderate to the rest of D-Platoon.
Old clip or downpatch?
Isnt the clacker noise warning enough?
what pistols do u guys use?
I run the Five Seven usually or the USP 45
berreta
I like the aesthetic for the 5-7 and USP more but the Berreta will always be my baby
you should be able to skip the mission result screen
That part
I’ve been running the 509 since it dropped. The 17(?) rounds come in handy.
5-7 mag is 20 rounds lol
sidearms in this game is mostly flavor unless you are cringe and shield spam
I tried 509 seems good. I do like the sights on it.
either 5.7 USG or M45
Pretty much. 1911 is eh here but still decent to use.
The new gun. I normally only use it when I run the killhouse.
if arn180 remains to be so dominant in the meta rn its barrel length is hardly longer than pistol
wym LVAR is the same length more or less
the new PDW is shorter
even g36 barrel is short too so sidearms are whatever but if you run shield 5-7 without optics and a laser sight is strong just bc of mag size and bullets
lvar and the new pdw has hot garbage recoil compared to running arn180 which has hardly any recoil and can carry .300 jhp
G36 is a laser but it's criminal to not have the fucking handle on it.
i think g36 is a safe option but if we min max then only like 3 maps in the game right now its worth taking g36; the rest of the maps suspects are all vulnerable to .300 jhp
has always been like that since the ammo rework; .300 jhp just absolutely dominate the weapon meta
commander mode patch in patch 2 gonna be nice but a man over here just wants a balaclava or two fr (not sure if this is addressed yet since i havent been on in a minute)
7.62x51 enters the chat
w 7.62 nato sometimes being good for 1 tap but thats like 6 maps and all easy map
Does the new PDW have Daniel Defense licensing on it's lower? Can't tell
I'd only swap for sins/relapse
but 7.62 nato only delivery platform is fal, and if you are even pushing it and go full auto then fal is dog for that purpose, and both its jhp and ap rounds are horrible against limb
Why would you full auto lmaooo
if you are good and you know you arent gonna spray your whole mag if you press your mouse why not you can do controlled burst
there are weapons in this game w good enough accuracy and low enough recoil to do bursts in 5 and you can control them to almost group around each other
Why not just 1 or 2 shot? The recoil isn't bad...
which brings back how arn180 is meta bc .300 jhp kills when it hits limb perfectly fine
1 or 2 shot works when the situation is not stressful and you actually get to shoot the suspects; people who play this game when the ai have aimbots and wh knew full auto is good so you can actually wallbang them back when it matters
now the vanilla ai is nerfed to dirt and you have to mod ai difficulty to even have any challenge so yeah; you can run 9mm into the current ai and win your gunfights
all the min max is suddenly out of the window when they nerf the ai to the ground
bro the last few civs were all in bathroom. bruhhhh
you realize smg still has that funny issue where if your arms are hurt the recoil goes extreme horizontal r
but yes smg are fun and vector technically is the most insane weapon in the game provided you stay full auto
Yeah idk I don't agree with all that. To each of their own. I still never used full auto during the cracked AI but what do I know.
god how did they make vector have 1666 rpm
if they didnt make it so you can carry more mags vector would prolly see more play but vector is only insane until you run out of ammo
BTW its more than 6 maps that don't have health modifiers :/
P90 goated imo, 50rd mags with better armor pen than 9mm
That shit full auto is fun^
in my experience the AI will still shoot you the milisecond they spot you. And the shitty effect it plays everytime you get shot makes it really hard to tell where its coming from and to return fire
hey chat what launch option should i pick so it saves my cosmetic items?
anyone else become deaf inside the port hokan warehouse?
finally unlocked the developers ruined watch, that was a pain
i love the SA58
a pistol in the trench coat, VOID is sponsored by Flux to promote their kit and if you seen Flux's recent ad you'll know why flux want to put it in primary
for not so lethal missions
could see it used in something like ends of earth
but i'd also rather would have a real mp for that xd
if you use anything over beanbag shotgun in ends of the earth you're a monster
ohhhh i defently am
She's a beast. The love of my life
old clip
Has anyone been using my Damage Rebuff mod after my latest update?
I just had a civ tank a 9mm round to the chest.
SA definitely has the best firing sound
beefest thang in the game fr
Frfrs it's music to my ears
wish every other gun sounded like it
reminds me of one of the earlier trailers for the game where the guns sounded so loud and beefy like being recorded through a camera
tried lawmakers on a MP server and the enemies were so tough
I emptied a whole glock mag onto a guy and he just kept moving
is that mods or are they also that tough vanilla?
I feel theres somethign up with pistols or general hit detection
I've played runs where I've seemingly magdumped guys just for non of them to connect.
Might be a mod tho if its some random pub game
The dude in the compliance room in the station basement
My damage rebuff mod makes pistols more effective
I ordinarily aim for the head, but good to know.
I raise the chance of incapacitation in one shot if it doesn't kill a non-armored suspect
Which one of your ai mods do you usually run? 
Use a shotgun to put down suspects?
In case you don't shoot a suspect directly in the heart? Most people are, unfortunately, alive after a first shot if it brings them to the ground and it's usually bleed out or short-term damage that causes someone to perish
My mod simulates it
A cop took a round in the chest by a .45 in one of their body cams while wearing light body armor
He went limp
You are correct, but most people's adrenaline cannot withstand 7 or half a pistol mag to the chest
So there needs to be variation, which the base game is missing my friend
I mean it's easy because your body armor in game soaks up rounds unrealistically
Symmetrical durability makes things a smidge more fair
-also yeah, it certainly shouldn't take that many shots to take down a target even ingame. I think last time I froze the AI and check, it took 4 center of mass shots to drop non-vested suspects
My only concern is tanking shots to simulate a longer firefight feels gimmicky is all
Did they discuss any next goals on the AMA for after the DLC? no speculations please
Forcing a player into cover during a fight feels more immersive
That's what damage rebuff aims to do
The AMA wasn't a Dev one, we talked to some SWAT and Police officers about their job and RON
alright ^^ thanks for the answer Kaminsky
That's a cool AMA I should check out the rebroadcast if there is one
It should be up on Youtube today. :>
you can do that but irl the entire police department is gonna be sieging some place not 5 dudes roleplaying cops w a gun; plus every damage rebuff in this game is straight hot garbage bc the balancing is skewed in the vison of the person who made it
Do you guys thought about a Patreon Account for people who want to steadily invest into Ready Or Not's Development. Tbh i want to support the game further if one time the money runs out
Please also be aware of the words 'as realistic as playable', to change the way the player and the AI fight would require a complete redesign of a lot of the games fundamental mechanics
also no, but you can support us when our Merch finally drops. :)
good thing.
I understand Kaminsky, which is why mods are only simulated changes and you guys have one of the best AI systems I've seen in a long time. The evolution has been a journey
Keep up the good work
I just checked out your mod. Sounds great from the patch notes!
hi
Good morning
does anybody know how much is the supporter edition?
The Supporter Edition is no longer available to purchase.
You had to be one of the lucky few who wanted to purchase it in early access
Kaminsky, do you feel like that there will be people who will be confused on if supporter edition players get all the DLC’s for free? Because I feel like that’s too legitimate problem that may come up in the future future?
I think they should bring SE back
Nope
Sadly, I don’t know if that would be the case
Most likely not
It is a special edition for dedicated supporters of this game and if everybody had it well then it would lose its magic
Also aside from first DLC that came through there’s not much that you can get with the Supporter edition aside from a few (reskinned) guns and the coveted HRT customization options
I kinda do almost regret, not buying that addition, but I didn’t have enough money for it anyways
There was a non-zero amount of confusion with the release of the first DLC, a little bit of which was perpetuated by me because I didn't exactly recall what the steam page had said, but both of the Discords should have been caught up to speed with the release of HI
Are anymore hit reaction animation variations planned? Personally I'm of the belief it would help the AI feel a little tacky. Curious to what the consensus is here!
Ah alr
None
Unless you use mods, you can only use one of the five helmet options in the vanilla game
Uh I think sniper or not once that gets updated or I think gunfighter even gets it although I’m not sure
You can search around mods in nexus
That’s what I primarily use for modeling and you have lots of more options on there than mod.io
Yeah, I’m pretty sure gunfighter has debility to do that although I haven’t used it so don’t take my word on it 
You need to wait for a lot of high profile mods to Update to this new patch.
About a week ago
welp
They still havent fixed the revolver bug lmao
admitting to pirating the game, in the games Discord
guys, if I want to get the hanged man achievement, can my officers use normal weapons?
Yes
Yes
thanks then it will be easy
What counts as neutralizing the suspect? Im tryna get the achievement "hidden and dangerous" and wanna know if tasering a suspect just to get past them (without restraining or yelling for compliance) would work
Like why doesnt my revolver shoot, it shows zero ammo in its mag when i hold R but the game shows it has ammo in the in game model
Can I give them orders?
What’s the best method to S rank mail room map using pepper ball or beanbag
Yes, but they can’t use grenades or equipment
if you playing commander then pepper ball, 2 negotiators and 1 pacifier
and whole lotta gas
you can create gas by shooting pepperballs, better take more mags for it
I like beanbag more tbh, pepperball is better yes but beanbag just feels better
Greased Palms literally proves how broken the AI is
sometimes the NPC's just don't react to pepper spray/balls, they ALWAYS react to beanbags
they spray all the capacities if they see you through a crackhole
taser 🤝
real challenge of the map isn't the map itself, it's not panicking when people shoot at you and actually remembering to return fire
the way I play greased palms: i let them shoot all their ammo at my shield till they are empty
the map is an absolute hell to see anything in with all the boxes and shit, you kind of just go into panic mode when you're being fired by 3 dudes at once and froget to aim properly before mag dumping
they be just standing aiming with their empty gun at you
I used to use shields too, Then I got good and went back to the AR
does anyone know why this fuckin game crashes randomly for no reason cuz its actually afuckin pisstake lad
i arrest some prick and it kills itself
What're your specs?
Happy Monday, Update today or by Friday?
Got killed by a suspect on School Map who used his buddy as bait for arrest

HAH
W-what?
NVG has f worded my fps, so im going thru it
Yeah, it seems like that. Unreal engine 5 is probably messing up peoples rigs.
The word you are looking for is Frappe
maybe, i woudlnt know
Just had girard on lethal obsession try to fake his death right infront of me, gas and tased and he desides to just drop to the floor. Idk what he was thinking
Either because of the game is not optimized or maybe the recommended specs needs to probably be updated because it’s too big boy for most peoples rigs 
Maybe if he faked spontanous lung cancer you would let him go
Which one of you you guys have kind of high end stuff but still have trouble running the game
and then I accidentally kicked a door open when trying to peak it. First time that has happened to me in my near 400 hours 
I feel like it’s almost a mixture of both, the game now requiring more hardware and or unroll engine just being not very optimized properly 
Last patch worked great for perfomance. This patch I run like shit. Had to tweak some stuff to get it manageable..
What could be the possibility of the problems?
I feel like that’s a lot of things, but it’s either people’s PC rigs can’t run it much better anymore or it’s just unreal engine 5 being unoptimized or something like that I don’t know
I’m not a tech guru so I can’t tell you the definitive answer
Ill tell you one thing, the hotfix definitely made my cpu a bit happier playing this game
Hmmmmm. how do you access the DLC?
I was able to play 120+ fps with little to no drops. Now it drops lowest to 30 after this recent patch...
Go to your properties, check list it when you go to the DLC tab and it should probably install
I’m guessing you bought it and/or your supporter so you have it for free 
Oh,
It’s still kind of baffles me because we don’t know the exact problem or at least like it’s so much stuff at the same time
Dog idk I looked at a wall on dorms and dropped to 40. That didn't happen on launch of the DLC
I need to test my computer to see if it’s asked to
Just purchased! Looking forward to playing for the first time tonight!
I haven’t even played this new update or DLC yet
I bought it last week 
Have fun
Ahh this suucks, I got it on the 23 of this month. I wanna play it so bad, I have tried everything so farr
I hope to play when possibly the two patches come out so I won’t experience your guys problems before the patches on hand
Does this game have an in-game benchmark or should I look up recommended settings based on my rig?
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for single player you have two options
commander mode and practice
Commander is a sort of career mode, you can manage your squad and such. But it can be a bit tedious when it comes to restarting a level since you have to keep jumping between the station hub and the level
practice is really just a "classic" mode, you get a set squad and can freely restart at any time. Progression and unlocks are the same between the two modes
Considering the slew of performance problems, people have been reporting, maybe check your rig and adjust your settings accordingly
Oh wait, you’re a brand new player 
Ok thanks! I've played SWAT 3 and 4 over the years so it sounds similar to its Career system
I thought that you bought the DLC lol & already was playing this game 
you’re about to play another silly swat game, but in high definition this time 
Nope no DLC yet but may pick it up later
There’s a ton of guides on YouTube and there’s obviously the people here in the discord which we’ve been playing for a while now 
yeah
Commander mode imo feels a litttle underbaked so I just played through on practice. But commander is good if you want it to be a bit more hardcore and punishing
As for settings just mess about with them in game and see what runs the best. Game is a bit of an enigma when it comes to performance lol
Ok good to know! Thank you!
Yeah, I’m wanting commander mode to be a little bit more done in the oven before I start actually playing it
Its a sound concept but it just seem teadious and annoying mainly when it comes to restarting
It clearly wants you to do things in a single try which is just bleh
Yeah, the unreal engine five change has caused people to have poo poo caca performance so adjust your setting accordingly
Ah ok I'll be sure to play around with the settings then
well the performance to me is probably better than it was on UE4. Still not great by any means but my pc isnt a beast
its just more consistent and doesnt stutter nearly as much if at all
Yeah, I know that the game doesn’t run well usually, I haven’t experienced first hand before , but it sounds like it hasn’t been this bad before 
I’m pretty sure that void probably had play testers that had pretty good rigs to run it well and they had PCs that ran it well
I feel like that they should probably play test the game on lower end hardware to see if it would run better as another layer for testing
G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4
Intel Core i5-7600K LGA 1151
Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1080
Those are my specs. It's above recommended. Not expecting to max but hopefully it handles the game well
I have played this game pre 1.1 & my experience has been pretty all right too
Aside from the game, I’m pretty sure that most of my problems were just the fact I was running so many fucking mods 
Ya I've been looking into the AI mods in particular as I've heard mixed results on enemy AI
1.1 apparently has made the AI somewhat better but it’s still definitely not perfect
Its better currently, but not by that much
main issue I have with enemy ai is they're just too trigger happy and one dimensional
They only really fire in full auto and mag dump if semi auto, they have pretty insane tracking through walls. theres certain spots in levels that suspects can see through that they shouldnt (though this is something void is working on fixing if the "fix" didnt get added this update)
Also, by the way, mods are completely bricked until modders update their stiff from 1.0 to 1.1
hesitations exist but are very unremarkable. At the end of the hesitation they will pretty much always try to shoot you rather than run away, and it doesnt act as that hesitate surrender you get in swat 4
Damn, the suspects are really fucking persistent imo
Hmmmm okay interesting. I'll have to test it out then
Oh really? That's a shame
You hate the LSPD that much that you have like the undesirable urge to basically shoot every damn law enforcement officer you see 
I’m just trying to do my job here 
yeah, its why I said its like swat 4 but way more shooty
often can play more like a spec ops shooter than a swat one
but thats not to say its impossible to get surrenders out of people
it just always requires a grenade or less lethal option
catching suspects off guard doesnt seem to have much impact and their reactions are very much just shoot on sight
do you guys know how to equip the balacava on my character? i have the supporter edition
It is a actual character itself, not a customization option
where would i chance that?
Echo
and since you cannot play as anybody else, but judge in any of the single player modes it is only in multiplayer
I don’t work at void so I don’t freaking understand why they did that
so is it in commander mode? or practice?
No,
yeah this is all so confusing lmao
I hope that it’s just a placeholder 
Yeah, from what I heard the suspect ai is a little bit better but they made the officers like the IQ of a boiling pot of chicken noodle
Well do you guys know a mod that gives us balacavas that doesn't break the game after the new update?
A bunch of mods have been bricked due to the new engine change
yeah :c
you need to wait for a lot of of those mods to get updated to this new update
ok ty
The balaclavas are new head options
you can only change your character head in multiplayer
there are mods to replace the judge head with one of the masked ones already so you can use one of those
https://www.nexusmods.com/readyornot/mods/4222
Biggest and best change with the DLC
Suspects no longer investigate when they've reached a certain stress threshold. This should prevent suspects from running into rooms full of SWAT.
The operators don't look CAG enough, 0/10 game.
Guys can i die if i want to unlock The Hermit?
Complete Ready or Not in Ironman mode without losing a single officer.
No. You die in Ironman mode, your save gets deleted.
You would lose your entire save in Iron Man, so that that’s not advised
spenser looks like the logitech guy
Sins of the father begs to differ
had five suspects charge at me one at a time down the same hallway
plus the final suspect STILL charges at the player no matter what
It's possible that my game is bugged because my save is still there
the difference is that suspects you have not made contact with won't all sprint around when they "stress out" aka hear gunshots/yelling/etc
it won't stop suspects engaged in gunfights/already made contact
Is this like when last suspect is left they'd usually beeline to your position?
That dude is trying to avenge his brothers 
they still do that
that seems to be just programed in
its a terrible mechanic
like the stress system in general really
Well I mean either way that portion still hasn't changed lol. They still do it the same as the before the engine transition
does higher stress = more likely to run away or shoot swat
they should run over to surrender instead of laser you
no
higher stress is less hesitation mainly
I believe it also has an effect on compliance making suspects less compliant
interesting ok
Still waiting for suspects to act like actual humans not the terminator.
Mods
morale and stress are two separate things (most maps start with high morale and low stress)
morale high = less willing to surrender/more aggressive actions
morale low = more likely to surrender/hesitate/flee
stress high = alerted and prepared for swat/willing to grab civilians/self-delete
stress low = idle stances and patrolling/surprised upon contact
funny, im going the terminator way as a game mode terrorist hunt
Im not 100% sure how morale is done in this game
I know how it works in SWAT 4 but for this game it seems slightly different
Feel like the suspect AI is fine now
i asked in the mods channel but ill ask here cuz what the hell.. anyone know a way to make the ai rush the swat more often?
Facts though. Last patch was way too easy. You could kill 4 dudes in front of another suspect and he'd just stare at you.
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i also am trying to find a way to make it so knifers dont autosurrender when u point a gun at them
It is, actually
The suspects AI is far more manageable while still remaining challenging at times
but its still just kinda lame and one dimensional and theres a few hiccups still
It is, actually
i believe your actually was outactuallyded
How long will it take for the the entire game’s AI to actually become good?
how long would it take?
2 weeks
There is no good AI in video games
Ofc, I know that it’s not exactly a true tactical simulator of police
Suspects when 5 swat officers with rifles pointed directly to their head and chest and they still try to shoot back. I get it should happen but really almost every time?
But honestly, I wonder if the game actually went that direction
, and I’m like talking about if all of the tactical shooter games had a baby
I had a suspect point their gun at me for a second then surrender. Terrible animations still
Like it was complete tactical and if the game was that well then I’m pretty sure that almost nobody would play because it would be a very difficult game to master and put time into
If this Discord had its way vanilla RoN would be piss easy
YES! i want it every time in my meth mod
Most hilarious and origonal joke ever made btw
no joke dude! im trying to make an incredibly aggressive AI mod
From a gaming perspective, it'd get really boring if all suspects just surrendered on sight when approached by you and your team
in my opinion, they would need almost an entire rewrite (unless they could finagle a group system in)
RoN AI works 100% independent from eachother, any coordination is entirely 'faked'
there needs to be a ton of scripted events that can randomly occur, group systems so that the AI work together, and bonus modifiers on rooms to mix up individual runs
This server would like it because they're awful at the game
So basically
Yeah so make it interesting. SWAT 4 worked and the suspects surrender pretty regularly.
i want to enter club, and have like 30 RPK guys come running at me down the hallway. but f me, i cant get the AI to deliver that
Would you guys play the game if it was Tarkov levels of realism, almost?
heck ya!
RoN AI works 100% independent from eachother, any coordination is entirely 'faked'
Sounds like FEAR lmao
any tips for ironman?
I wouldn't put tarkov and realism together in one sentence lmao
this is something people ALWAYS say in this debate
no one wants suspects to 100% of the time give up straight away. But theres far more suspects need to do than just instantly open fire, or hesitate for a while and open fire.
Bruh
The gameplay of looking at a suspect hesitate for about 30 seconds, know he will basically never drop it isn't fun at all for me.
yeah but I sure am glad I grabbed the AI document written by the FEAR AI director before it got blackholed by sites no longer hosted
(I think you can way-back machine it still)
Did it seriously get taken down smh
My only complaint with surrendering is the AI blatantly telegraphing that they're about to pull a gun out their ass. Wish it was quicker or something.
I wonder if at some point if the game does decide to be so realistic that it becomes like incredibly difficult and it would required to put like Tarkov levels of time into it
and theres the difference between" low level suspect" and "high level suspects"
Theres a very slight difference between the suspects on early levels and late game levels. They all bascically are just as aggressive and lacking self preservation
Players would complain about it
Like I don’t think the game should be that fucking arcades, but it also should not be so damn realistic to the point that people that are not good at tattoo shooters, which would drop it because it’s so difficult
You have people wanting it to be a tactical simulator of real police shit but you also have the other side of the spectrum with people wanting it to be Arcady almost to the point of it becoming call of booty
d u m b
I think the ai is heading towards a nice spot rn. Since the update/dlc I've noticed that they have been running away more
The slow drop animation from swat 4 would massively help. RoN AI doesn't build any tension. The game becomes more of a wait to shoot instead of a deliberate game of trying to guess what suspects will do and watching their movements.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rcuyHrNI3Cg
even this video here shows better ai than most of ron
the fake surrenders in RON hardly happen now, but they always result in a suspect trying to kill you
this clip they surrender for a second and then try to run away, and only fight when they get shot
Yessss
More suspect animations like that. Quit yeeting guns through a fucking ceiling lol.
whenever I play they only run after unloading their guns in my direction
I love that lol
Ready or Not sucks and the devs should off themselves tbh

🔥
That simple animation does so much
somethign RoN is very much lacking
Ur fucking weird
I gotta respect the dedication to the bit ngl
You have one side of the spectrum with people wanting the game to be super casual to the point that doesn’t feel like a tactical shooter anymore
which bit I switch it up every week jeez
You also want the hard-core tactical shooter people who have like 1000 hours in Tarkov and hasn’t slept for like five days with monster in their energy wanting it to be super sweaty tactical
rip ATACMS, he was so young
You just can’t please both sides of the spectrum since they want different things 
people either want the game to play like rainbow six vegas, or SWAT 4
RoN lacks a lot.
It should play like SWAT 3 actually but that's too controversial around here
Both actually when it makes sense.
if only there was a difficulty slider or literally anyway to modify the game experience without mods 

I honestly think it already plays a bit like swat 3, with how crazy the suspects are 
RoN must be the Dark Souls of tactical shooters sorry
anybody got S on elephant after the update?
Only if like, people have been asking that since beta. 
There always gonna be people who are going to be unhappy about a game
SWAT 3 suspects aren't that mobile
"nnooeoeoeoeeo!!!!! I had to play against the hard AI so everyone else does tooo!!!! game too easyyy!!"
not that mobile but very aggressive
I played SWAT 4 and the tension feels a lot more than Ron
Idk about aggressive they're mostly just very accurate lol
Like when a suspect starts to drop his gun I’m actually looking at every molecule of his body to see if he would drop it or if I have put him down 
This was unironically a point people made during the EA launch lmao
aggressive in the sense that they almost always open fire, they dont really try to escape and will probably end up getting shot
Yeah tbf they were competing with Rainbow Six so they took a lot of cues from that game
Down to how fast paced the missions were
DLC 1 is definitely moving in the right direction with more chatter from the bots
MELDONIN achievement is a nightmare to finish, not even the ironman mode is not that hard, AI cops get mid life crises every time there are in a fight and forget to turn on the susps, they bagging up the guns and leave there owners free its driving me crazy ngl
yeah swat 3 was very fast
Also RoN follows in its footsteps of having suspects killed before the flashbang even goes off 
RoN's AI is predictable and that is the cardinal sin for this type of game.
Yeah, that’s another thing that I like swat 4 for
SWAT 4 was also wait to shoot tho
Not very dynamic though
If you’re talking about the AI having personality and shit like that
neither is the chatter from old games that are way more scripted 
It was more interesting because they would actually commonly surrender.
Surrender? What's that?
RoN moment
That's a good thing because SWAT 4 SWAT AI are absolutely awful at firefights
Yeah, the people of us Los Sueños don’t know that word
did you say, die in a gunfight at 22?
Ahhh ok I was confused
eezstreet just repurposed the suspect cover system for SWAT 4 so that the team AI could take cover... kind of
The suspects of RoN have zero care in the world about their life. You could be yelling at them for years and they'll still be waiting to blow your head off.
I forgot that in SWAT 4 suspects actually sometimes surrendered on sight
Something is wrong with ya'lls version of the game. I don't have ANY of these problems.
Swat 4 kept you on your toes. RoN keeps you down your sights.
You're not allowed to say that around here
Every copy of RoN is personalized
Suspect AI gives me resistance 1 in every 10 times
Tbf I usually shoot suspects even when they're not shooting because the ROE in this game is overly generous 
there is literally some dude in the modding discord who's game has the shadows turned so dark that it's impossible to see and fog is locked to 7meters in front of his face
Wtf
He playing a horror game
insert X Files theme here
How does one achieve that 💀
UE5 moment
Here's his and then my screenshots I took to compare lmao #🎨ron-screenshots-and-art message
SWAT 4 Radio Cuba song: 10000/10, “would break my ROE to this song” - Officer Fields
Does he have the Lumen mod installed
I want that lol
Whatever he did to curse it I need that shit
said it was vanilla, but like, could be lying/wrong ig
I have no idea if the native bounce lighting is like that
Swat 4's suspects worked like this:
Morale value ranges from 0.0 to 2.0, the value changes depending on the suspect and the level. Earlier levels suspects will have a lower morale value, later levels suspects have a higher ammount
Lower value means more likely to surrender, higher value less likely
When you yell at a civ or suspect the game does a random compliance check. If it succeeds they surrender. If not they will not comply and either flee or attack you. The compliance check WILL NOT re-roll untill the morale value has changed.
Morale can be lowered by many different stimuli like flashbangs, being shot, running out of ammo/guns etc
some stimuli has a permanent morale decrease like being shot and running out of ammo
while others are temporary like being stunned by a grenade or less lethal and will revert back to the previous value when the stun ends
ready or not's morale and compliance calculation is a bit different and idk how it works entirely
has 'Elephant' become impossible to succeed? no matter how fast I try to clear it a terrorist executes a random civi no where near where I am
It shouldnt be impossible but its probably quite hard
suspects will start shooting civvies on that level
no matter how much I try to split my squads and go alone myself I tried for like 4 times...
It's possible, you have to rush it though
That makes sense in an active shooter scenario,
That... doesn't make any sense
I dont think you need to save every civvie to get to the next level
I am going for S rank
For some reason, elephant doesn’t feel like an active shooter scenario, it just feels like barricaded suspects, but “ I’ma start blasting in ____ amount of time”
Make use of grenade launcher as well, 4 suspects, 2 on each wings, you have around 3 minutes before they start executing civis
ah good luck lol
it will be possible you just have to be very fast and lucky
RoN's is basically the same as this, except a few differences I can tell at a glance
RoN morale (starts high, and can) gradually increases when the suspects perform actions like fighting back, grouping up, having LOS to friendlies
there are no permanent decreases in morale, but certain states like "out of ammo" cause 100% surrenders when yelled at
Unless I'm reading what you said wrong
Yeah, of course the suspect is going to surrender if they have no more juice
You have five police officers aiming automatic rifles at you with much more ammo than than you
Meanwhile, suspect gets bean bagged 3 times in a row, surrounded by 5 dudes, still not giving up that gun lmao

He never said the system worked well
Never implied he did
I hate RNG. All suspects should be tightly scripted instead
no
Turn RoN into a puzzle game
This will kill replayability
That's right we're going back to Police Quest: SWAT
Uh excuse me, Police Quest: SWAT is very replayable
He means as in new experiences, in every run kind of
OK, I should probably type this correctly
Best SWAT simulator
the only way I can see me getting S rank is if I get an actual human with me and split off. prefrerably a squad of 4 or 5
RON can have RNG since it would mean a different experience every run
the friendly AI is just brainless sometimes....
But if you don’t do it correctly , it becomes pretty much that… RNG meaning you can’t guarantee everybody to survive
Feel like their accuracy got toned down
Yeah, I heard that they now have the IQ of a IKEA stool
More reliable than your average pub player 
The best thing RON can do for re-playability in my opinion is something like six days in fallujah where they have dynamically generating maps each time with different objectives

interesting
There was some bugs with 1.0 that had suspects GAIN morale from things that should decrease it because of some typos in the config. I wonder if those were fixed
Also I get the feeling yelling has a morale decrease I cant remember if i saw that in the config.
Because often times you can just keep spamming F until someone surrenders. Or maybe its just bugged
I feel like that could work, but the game is not advertised as that so like 
cause theres things like non-compliant civvies giving up when you get a step closer to them and things like that
Also unrelated, but I’m now thinking about something
though some of that seems slightly fixed this update mainly with dorms
Might be nice but you don't really need that for replayability. Six Days is kind of a one in a kind game for that
you CAN yell down a suspect, but it takes like 20 yells (-0.05, need to go roughly from 1.0 to 0.0), and that's only if they're also NOT gaining morale at all
hmmm
I thinks the morale should get a slight rework
True they should give the SWAT AI morale too 
animation and voice line inconsitensy doesnt help also
The maps get stale after how many attempts. if they can get something easier for players to make maps and maybe workshop support they won't need to worry about replayability
I think something like that is probably in commander mode with the officer system, but don’t quote me on that
like the one I said before where a suspect pointed their gun at my squad a second before surrendering
and then theres suspects that rush you and unload all of their shots then give up as soon as you dome them
Officer mental health doesn't really do anything in missions as far as I can tell
That was actually a bug in 1.0 I think
where you're AI teammates could surrender
Oh my gosh
Works fine in SWAT 4, maybe VOID should just design better maps
I’m realizing something 
I say that because 90% of custom maps in SWAT 4 suck
I think Void is trying to have an actual story mode with their maps I guess
Well sort of but they like to hide it because you have to actively search for the briefings lmao
SWAT 4 didn’t really have a true story in the game where the older games in the series had a story mode
If suspects were a bit more varied I could see it being more fun
they still hardly hide around the map
every level has very similar suspects
like why do the kids on ends of the earth willingly lay down their lives rather than hiding in closets and under beds and such
True, they should let granny grab a shotgun once in a while
about to try pistol only achievement, too tired for S tier
Yeah base game swat 4 was just seperate cases with no real overacing story
its DLC had a bit of a story to it
RoN's story is just underdeveloped and also in the wrong order
How it should be tbh; works better as a police procedural
I mean the game would be very different if it went to swat 4 way in story mode
yeah I liked the unrelated cases in swat 4
having the different story lines in RoN is nice but they arent developed at all
I mean there isnt any unique voice lines for evidence reports on any of the maps except the last one
No story mode, missions would have their own little self-contained plots, and honestly I wonder how that would go in this game
clearly unfinished and rushed to 1.0
The characters are also like not that really deep
I mean you could easily change up some of the existing levels stories
wouldnt even need to redo all of the levels just seperate them into different things
Judge is like my favorite RON character because he’s the only swat officer that it is implied to be a integral part of this game’s plot
He has a few theories of what his past could be in other stuff like that
Wait is extra v* olive oil really censored lmao
Actually I kinda like the Home Invasion missions for this because they're mostly independent missions that don't really tie to any bigger storylines (AFAIK)
I like SWAT 4’s characters
is the date for the second patch of the DLC known?
Sure, they’re not fucking Stephen King levels of character, creation, and they are definitely not the most deepest of characters but at least they had personality
I think void made a big oopsie with the commander mode. Missed out on really fleshing out eli king swan and Prescott the same way the gang in swat 4 are
Some point in August, I think.
early august or unknown?
I remember once killing the whole squad on swat 4 and feeling really bad cause I liked them
didnt feel the same way shooting the squad in RoN
though you cant even TK them now
Jackson, Fields, Reynolds & Girard can be the godfather to my children I love them that much 
Unknown
you're in my spot
thx
Sure, the 2005 AI makes them dumber than wet concrete most times, but at least they have some character
boss you're in my way....
Eli, King, Swan & Prescott aren’t like that
I thought their AI was decent for the most part
but they can muck up a bit
Tbf even generic goons can be okay if you have good voice acting to back it up (like SWAT 3's voice acting) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rj3W6yXS1lM
I wouldn’t have this problem if that wasn’t the point of the characters, but I think void has shown that they want these characters to have personality just like the SWAT 4 crew
I do love swat 3's voice acting
also those radio beeps and boops are oddly satisfying
I mean, I would still be upset if the ready or not crew did not have any voice lines and we’re kind of just lap dogs for your commands
But void has shown that they want these characters to almost be at that level or maybe even surpass personality of the swat 4 gang
one thing that made swat 4's gang so much more lively is they would talk with each other.
all of the comments the squad make in RoN are one way.
Yee
are the subtitles accurate on english?
In A Bomb:
(I forgot which officer): Yk I took a girl here once on a date
Jackson: must’ve been a blind date
This may be considered unimportant stuff or really little issues, but to me it just gives the game much more personality and this is one of the reasons why I like SWAT 4 a lots
more or less
there was an issue on launch that they werent accurate because of auto generating them
most should be ironed out a bit
havent seen any issues yet
💯
i remember that issue but the game (at least in spanish) is terribly translated
damn
one half is still on english and the other half is translated but has a lot of issues, doesn't make sense sometimes
even in fully english the subtitules are bad sometimes, but now rarely
I imagine they just went full scale auto genertion for the subtitles for all languages
i guess so, it is noticeable
because they are mostly literal translations
actually a funny oopsie I remember
for ends of the earth the briefing specifically mentions the mother having cancer
but theres a voice line for King or whatever voice type he has when you walk into her room which is
"Must be cancer.." Despite the fact everyone should already know that cause it was in the friggin briefing

OK when I heard that that did get a chuckle out of me, but in all the wrong ways
bro missed the briefing...
He was in the WC that time
hes gonna get chewed out for that one frfr
Also, speaking of that, I wonder what would happen if you used CS gas in that room
nothing
Hey
she can take it
infact she isnt even bedbound like again the breifing states
she can run around at full speed like shes still young and healthy
You mean Mrs Tran?
she also has no voice lines at all so shes completely mute :)
yep
Lung cancer doesn't exactly makes you bed bound
and for whatever reason Anh Tran has his names on the subtitles when ever other person apart from your squad is labeled "Unknown" to prevent meta gaming
they are tanking every pistol shot bruh, i need rpg for Narcos suspects, that achievement is hard
the briefing literally says she is tho
This may be a huge nitpick for me, but
Ohh, guess gameplay wise she would be hard to be coded to lay in bed
I find that dumb to be honest
I mean not really
theres already the kids like in gas and meth that are stuck in that one spot
Would just be thing to report like them
and all of the wounded civvies
you can shoot them and they die
would just be the same for missus tran
that sh is HARD Dude
What was Tran sons' idea? Kill cops and stay behind bars for life?
which pistol is should use for narcos achievement, ngl they're john wicks
Five Seven with AP
well theres another thing
the briefing also mentions she called the police which is why we are hitting the place
but the phone call in the briefing isnt the mother, its some dude, the dad claims he called the police in the level but he was definitely not the guy on the phone recording, and one of the brothers has a voice line accusaing one of the other brothers for "saying shit one the phone" which implies he was ratting on his brothers. But if he was why does he fight the entry team like any other suspect
guys i have this problem where all the VO files i use just get reset and have them normal again the next start, why is it like this?
Forced into it? It's implied one of the brothers called
I dont buy that for a second
literally no reason for him to go along with fighting the swat team
the tran bros should even be as aggressive as they are. Leave the more dangerous suspects to the random cartel goons in the house. Have the brothers hide more frequently
Alr gonna try rn, but shii, it's hard frl. Might gotta play more Ready or Not, since i haven't played this sh in months.
Btw can u use ur AI for nades etc? Cuz with Way out west achievement it was possible
No nades or launchers
keep in mind the five seven will often hit downwards when mag dumping without waiting between shots
😍 i love suspects that can get a headshot on you with an automatic weapon the second they raise their sight
😍
yeah im starting to rage now, how tf..
and my game crashed after i died, W ready or not.
W computer
#🎨ron-screenshots-and-art W ready or not
which maps?
Damn developer removed compatibility with controllers only keyboard works
@lyric gorge so you wanna play ?
Yeah for sure give me two mins
alright, ill be in EU 4
Okay cool
how the hell do i put on the balaclava
@static slate eu 4 is full wanna join a different one ?
people join me sorry
Oh okay no problem
apparently its accessible in multiplayer customize options
its not even ive tried - anybody found out how to fix it?
I think the one level that hurts you is Neon Tomb
Pain that you are too late, hatred for the suspects
All those young people snuffed the life out of them
ok i just done it
ok ive installed some mods through mod io via ingame , i installed some weapons skins but they dont show for some reason
like weapon replacement for m4a1
go to multiplayer, change character to Echo
they didnt even say that theyre new characters in the game but thank you, i thought it was just cosmetics u could put onto any of them.
balaclavas are only usable in multiplayer since they're a seperate character head
thats cool bro i wasn't too sure either i had just seen others mention it while lurking lol
thought id load n check it
from what ive heard the mod.io is kinda booty cheeks, better with nexus and doing it manually
- I don’t use the in game mod menu cus bad
- Make sure you didn’t forget to take your launch option off Safe Mode
its off safe mode
they did
in the changelog for the DLC update
"Added 3 new extra officer heads utilizing balaclavas, each named "Echo.” Note: currently only available in multiplayer"
also the mod is functional even if i install it via paks gives corrupt data error
can anyone help me out
link to the mod?
The mod is outdated
can somebody link me up to date mods
Bruh go to nexus and filter by Updated
Anything last updated before the dlc launch, don’t use
hello is anyone else having issue when you boot it up, a warning pops up saying "corrupt files detected"?
thank you!
#🎨ron-screenshots-and-art i did it..
That’s what I’m here for when it isn’t jeering
Omg
The M1 carbine could be a PDW but it’s not considered a PDW in modern gun design
Many people would not consider a PDW today because of how it’s not compact rlly, you could consider it a a full-size rifle almost
But other than that, it checks all of the boxes
.Used by irregular troops
.Made for self defense (it was used by regular soldiers tho)
It was given in replacement of a pistol and a rifle
Due to some other characteristics though it’s not really considered a PDW in gun design today, but it does seem like it was back in the day, even if it term was never used
Compared to the garand? It's easily a pdw lol
It's all relevant to what was available at the time
🤪 Teammate pathing is actually dog water wth
Always has been 
Yeah, military doctrine, and stuff like that changes over the years and it’s pretty interesting
my game is lagging for some reason i got rtx 3060 is there like a graphic improvements they did in this update
The entire engine was changed from unreal engine 4 to 5
Narcos is... sumin else
is good
Its good
Is the manul download or mod manager download better for RON
but hard
manual(imo)
Honestly, way harder than ides of march
yea its hard too, but prob my fave map
👍 ok
I love how you can't just "wedge all the doors" in the new maps. Narcos especially need to be on 360 security
same
provides extra challenge
imagine needing wedges
This tbh
I really love how the update made the suspects talk more when arrested, love the darkness of it and the sense of urgency to find the detective. Also love how the suspects will taint the police. But also 💀 mfs with body armor and fully automatic weapons who can shoot you down an alley and through windows (that AI wont shoot through) is actual hell on earth
The AI is god awful still. I always end up just soloing it if I'm not in a lobby
yeah a bunch of them carry ars with like 50-100 round drum mags lol
im trippin or civs starting to run now?
on narcos, 1 civ was left for me, every suspect was arrested, one next to the green house, spent like 10 minutes for last civilian, boom randomly she appeared next to the suspect between green house
The ironic thing about this game is that john wick soloing is actually easy. Playing as a team using actual team movement and tactics is hard
i think they are running more, i noticed that too kinda
Time wasteful n boring, imo.. i mean it can be fun for someone, but nah, me? either multiplayer solo (NO AI) or practice solo.
"Yo left switch, mirror this door"
meanwhile solo
"kicks every door, goes crazy"
I think the duality of the player base is the biggest challenge for devs lol
Bro if the civs are running now from spot to spot, it's ggs, more time to spent for em mfs
To be honest, one of the sides of the fanbase just needs to get burned
I want to see RoN become a methodical tactical SWAT sim. If you dont slice the pie in every door way, you should risk failure on the spot
Maybe not failure on the spot, but death on the spot lol
Can't wait for a final boss suspect with Ultra big armor and machine gun.
Yeah thats what I mean, haha
But IG death is failure
Ive been playing SWAT 3 this past week, and you die in 2 to 3 bullets
u prob running around fully naked.
Ron does feel somewhat bullet spongey
😍 its okay the john wick insta headshot full auto across the map ai make sure u get 1 tapped
Im VERY new to the SWAT series, so... maybe I'm not doing the loadouts correctly! Im at the surface to air missile level in the construction yard
Ngl if this is good idea or nah but, what about custom character?
Custom beard etc, y'all know what im talking about.
Never played any swat or police game in my entire life, just ron in 2022 lol
Ooooh lol. It might seem dated for most, but I'm the kind of nerd that is so brain fried that I can adapt to it almost immediately
how is 3 compared to 4? i liked 4 a lot
You disarm a nuke in 3
damn im sold lol
But something just snapped, i can't feel RoN vibe anymore like previously. Not focused just walking around aiming n shooting.
I was hyped when i was playing RoN before this DLC, rn it's just meh, nice good maps lmao
Probably because i haven't played this game in months. Got only 77hours on it.
Sounds like something above SWAT's pay grade lol
"Only"
i just download ready or not 100 slots mod it works but now cant find it on nexus
what
don t use 100 with multi. no one will join u. 25 max
I only played the first 3 levels of 4, but 3 has a little bit of a story going on, a lot less weapons to choose from, and a much more complex way of controling your element imo. Your snace cam is also more like a mirror on a stick. The ROE is also more relaxed
100 slots is crazy
tf 100 slots, are u going on a world war 3 or some?
ah nice
The default amount of slots is more than enough tbh
tf you need 100 slots for are you Batman
I agree. Though I do wish my taser could be a pistol slot item
casually chilling with 30AR mags, 30 pistol mags 40 Nades
100 pepperball mags
nah 100 grenades, ez.
i wonder how tf im gonna dorms 5mins objective achievement
if narcos took me 45+ mins
theres a steam guide w/ optimal routes, what equipment to take, etc
There is a zip file with all the community maps that could be found/recovered on the modern internet, and some of them are really neat. One is inspired by the North Hollywood shootout/bank robbery and uses police radio calls in the cut scene. Another actually dates itself by having you recuse President Geroge Buse Jr on Air Force one lol. It takes place in California
just for that achievment specifically
weiird cant find the mod
if anyone wanna help with that, dm pweasee
shit sign me up
here you go
Bro is actually cheating
If you ever get the game, This mod makes it playable on modern systems. Just follow the instructions to get a stable frame rate
https://www.swat3lastresort.info/
thx
Hey guys, you think there´s any chance they´re gonna add the stock P320 without the raider-frame?
It´s a cool pistol, I like it a lot
idk, just get a mod for that xd
i would think so
doubt it
They wanted to make it you could take off the conversion kit, but couldn't get that working from my understanding
I would like another 7.62x51 weapon that isnt the SA58 though
SCAR-H/G3A3 plz
Mosin when
😊 Narcos beat cop achievement is killing me
lmao, took me 45mins
😍 im on hour two
i haven't played all maps properly, i don't know all the layers, that's what made it lil harder for me
what pistol are you using
does revolver count for achievemtn?
i was using five seven, before that, i tried glock, magnum
yeah it should, its a sidearm
now im worried about 5 mins dorms
use a ton of cs gas
fiveseven >
gas every room
might go with AI team, non-lethal primary wpn only
Since the entire engine was changed from unreal engine 4 to 5 it’s like installing the game all over again
ah
Lawmaker "Hidden and Dangerous" is basically s tier? right?
does it take up anymore storage?
aight fuck dorms then, lawmaker im coming.
im gonna come
doesnt using non-lethal count as neutralizing?
Negative
no, neutralize as in kill
ahhhh
if u use shotgun beanbag to the head, it's neutralizing..
yes because you just launched a 3 pound bag of beans at someones left temple from a shotgun
Completed my first mission in practice. Took awhile but I did it! Need to play with settings as it was fine unless I entered a new room and FPS tanked for a bit. Defaulted to Epic settings so that might be the issue
what do you think is gonna happen
newww playerss
YUPE
There’s a lot of stuff that is in the game to consider
good shit
A lot of us have been playing for a while so if you got any questions and other things, we are usually here 
One thing that everybody is going to ultimately find is the loadout which I’m guessing using the default load out the game gives you?
Ya I only had time for a quick session so I just did default everything. Once I get the game running well I'll play around with the different equipment
beanbag rounds weigh less than a pound, just FYI
Do you want to know the basics with the loadout system?
Maybe later but thank you!
Ah alr
Hyperbole is wonderful
I'm aware they're like a couple ounces max
👍
I can't see the points that show up for things, like, I can't see the + points that get given when arresting or killing someone, anyone know how to fix this?
The PDW trials of 2001 was crazy
The MP7 & P90 was grabbing at each other’s throat for NATO approval 
The P90 did win the trials, although the Germans vetoed the adoption of the P90 and it took until I think 2021 for the 5.7x28mm to be adopted by NATO
There’s still two very cool weapons but honestly, I think I like the form factor of the MP7 more
no, it’s not my undying love for H&K (kinda)
The P90 is also a good one and it has that 50 round magazine that they have
The 5.7 is just a superior round to 4.6x30
23 MB a second took an unbelievable ammount of tries to A+. Not S, A+
Start from the top, use gas and the beanbag shotgun. Becomes easy after that
Wth? i completed narcos with lethal pistol no launchers or anything and i didnt get the achievememt?
A+ means I can incap/kill a couple
Yee
The only problem is that Heckler & Koch doesn’t ship to the US
Let bots carry lethal?
If you want S, equip them with pepperball cause they'll headshot with the bean bag
I want the MP7 to come here but they’re too busy accidentally getting their weapons in the hands of cartels 
PSA moment
I don’t know why the hell HK keeps fucking butchering their guns for civilian export
Not even just the US like I’m pretty sure other countries as well 
first try failed s tier, ai died...
i like how they somehow gets pistol ammo, when u set everything on non lethal primar wpn
The SL8 does look kool tho
That opinion may get me jumped, but I like the look of that G36 
Is there any notable settings that affect fps more than others? Trying to mitigate the frame drops I've been experiencing
I am not happy smoke launcher has only 4 shells
Tacti-Bren
I want a nambu with a laser and a tokarev with an rmr cut
Bruhhh im doing the watts college mission and got all objectives except for civillians
Can't find em ;-;
fps drop goesss craaaaazyyyy
i love itt when one npc decides to be hulk and killes an whole squad of swat guys wich all allmost emptying their guns in him
Wdym force, tf, didn't even do anything #🎨ron-screenshots-and-art
Is the DLC only accessible in multiplayer?
also in practice
@quasi gate your ai mod for ludicrous difficulty keeps freezing
Freezing?
like a hard freeze
locks up the game i have to sign out of windows
just letting you know
Huh, I have not experienced that bug yet myself
it was on gas station
Can you please share your PC specs, so I can review it?
excuse me but I do have a quick question, I heard that all the achievement in the dlc can be obtained on multiplayer, is that true ?
Ryzen 5 7600X and rtx 4060ti 8GB
cool anauthorized leathel force bro was mag dumbing an ak at me
and are you playing solo, multiplayer full squad, or with more than 5 people?
multiplayer with 4 or 5
Okay, thanks for the report. Remember that you can file bugs on my Nexus Mods page or in my Discord Community Server. Thank you!
ok
which setting u need on EPIC to get DOF in replay?
Is there something I'm doing wrong While playing missions for Rank S? I'm only using non-lethal weapons and I do every single objective, But at the end it shows me like I'm missing around 10 points and I keep getting A+
Take a picture of it next time, but are you pressing Y to leave or auto leaving
got one, But I can't post pictures here
I never leave by pressing Y, I'm making sure to secure every soft objective, every single gun, civilian etc...
Well wich mission you have that issue ?
Every single one I attempt tbh. But Recently I couldn't do that on Twisted nerve and the gas station mission (the first one, forgot it's name)
well the only reasonable reason I can think of is either you hit a civ or a hostage while they are secured that give that -50, but beyond that I don't know what could be the cause
what non lethal gun you using ?
nvm i found the issue, sometimes one of the suspects won't surrender and I have to shoot them to incapitate them... And that's what lost me some points
@shy tulip
I am not sure what you mean by DOF in replay
deph of field
ohh alr so that what it's all about well atleast that cool you know what was the issue