👮ron-discussion

[blissful harness]

Disable Checksum.

[normal hornet]

alr genuinely curious, in the new dlc which i will be buying what has been confirmed as coming with it? i know theres a few guns, but in the trailer i saw balaclavas?

[shy tulip]

If you were the host, you would have to disable checksum for players to join you. if you were joining a host with it off, only you would see it and no one else would care/know

[shy tulip]

The DLC is 3 maps and a cosmetic set. The guns are part of the free update

#💬general-discussion

[night pasture]

The balaclavas are free

[normal hornet]

ty very much appreciated, not very active in this server mb

[blissful harness]

I wonder if the DLC is required for new cosmetics or it could solely be unlocked by playing maps with the host that has it.

Not sure how the pin means by requiring DLC.

[stable kernel]

Kam said he thought the cosmetics were not tied to level completions, but rather owning the dlc

[blissful harness]

Damn, then I really do have to buy the DLC if the cosmetics are good..

[stable kernel]

#💬general-discussion message

[random forge]

how da flip does one get port hokan A

ive been trying but I only get a B, is it a time thing?

[shy tulip]

No, just kill less, arrest more

[jolly verge]

You need arrest suspects alive

[shy tulip]

Just that shrimple

[random forge]

ah i see

exactly how many suspects should i arrest compared to kill

[fast fractal]

I keep getting so close to S ranking hokan but everytime one gun gets glitched or something

[jolly verge]

Almost everyone

[blissful harness]

Ever since I got FISA plate carrier, I've been refusing to take it off.

[random forge]

damn

[jolly verge]

You playing commander mode or practice?

[fast fractal]

Just play like you’re going for an s and it’ll workout

[blissful harness]

Practice is superior with OG crew.

[random forge]

im not on ironman mode

just normal, commander I think

[jolly verge]

But still in commander one?

[random forge]

ye ye

[jolly verge]

there are really op traits which you can use, grind 2 negotiators, that will helps you to make suspect surrender from yelling

[noble halo]

when new update for ron ?

[blissful harness]

Tbh, I can survive in this game just fine, but trying to keep my officers alive is not.
Probably why I ain't getting the gold watch.

[random forge]

hmm, ive been running Breacher, Armourer, negotiator and S.B.A.G.S

[jolly verge]

breacher is really useless, swap it to 2 negotiator and then you can remove sbags as well

[random forge]

aight, I need to get a negotiator first tho

a 2nd negotiator**

[jolly verge]

for 4 trait you can use nutritionist to increase swat ai health or veteran to increase their accuracy

[random forge]

ill probably do what u say and use two negotiators, a veteren and nutritionist

[jolly verge]

Nah, better keep armorer, it's op with ceramic plates

choose between veteran and nutri

[random forge]

icl, i've been using steel

[jolly verge]

steel is bad, use heavy vest with ceramic plates

[random forge]

ah I see

[jolly verge]

before it's get fixed (tomorrow)

[random forge]

lmao, thx man ill use those

I'll let yall know if I get that A on port Hokan

[frank yew]

hey guys, just wanted to know which type of mods are not compatible with multiplayer?

[shy tulip]

All mods are available in multiplayer, some of them just require extra work or require everyone to have them.

[frank yew]

ok thanks 👍

[shrewd jetty]

do locked doors have traps?

can *

[normal hornet]

yes

[blissful harness]

I wonder what is the most used tattoo in this game.
I saw a lot equipping anime one.

[frail pier]

Probably

The elephant tattoo or relapse are my favorites.

[night pasture]

Def not greased palms people HATE that map

[hexed leaf]

'Hatching' is a really cool one IMO

[frail pier]

Do we know what the new tats look like for the DLC?

[blissful harness]

I managed to get through it in one try in practice mode, but half my team died.

[night pasture]

Dealer and probably beating all the levels tattoo my fav

[blissful harness]

Personally I like the anime tattoo and the one from the port.
The one from the port covers the whole arm and extends to the hand, it covers a bit of your hand which I love it.

[night pasture]

Also

[umbral oar]

Is the pong theme part of the ost

[rustic pewter]

was the dlc release extended?

[night pasture]

DLC maps will have tattoos btw :3

[night pasture]

Like delayed? no

[blissful harness]

I hope they're unlocked by level completion and not having ownership of the DLC, cosmetics too.

Personally don't have the money to buy DLC yet.

[rustic pewter]

but wasent it supposed to release like hour ago? I checked and it said today at 20.00 pm

[night pasture]

It releases the 23rd, 2pm in the states depending on time zone

[rustic pewter]

bruh

[frail pier]

1 more day fam

[rustic pewter]

:/

[blissful harness]

24th, 3 AM for me.
Timezone is a bull.

[night pasture]

Tattoo should be for everyone I get the cosmetics tho they gotta make money

[stone salmon]

which timezone?

cant find any info regarding that

[night pasture]

check the store page it has a timer

[stone salmon]

ah ty

[silver palm]

That's a bummer

[stone bay]

Apparently SWAT AI are walking Abrams at this point. Just had all four guys tank an s-vest on neon tomb.

[frail pier]

Depleted uranium plates FTW

[shell zealot]

Hello people, i just wanted to say ill be getting Ready or Not soon for 50euro cuz i just lost bet

[lost inlet]

yikes

[shell zealot]

I mean.. y'all bought it also for 50€ but I lost bet rn

[noble pasture]

I got it before it was 50, get cheesed

[shell zealot]

Fuck me

[noble pasture]

Game is worth the 50 bucks

[frank sparrow]

what was the bet?

[blissful harness]

I don't even recall how much I got the game.

[noble pasture]

You get 18 maps off the bat and 40 guns

[silk junco]

i got it for 120

[frank sparrow]

i did a lifehack and got it for 20

[frank sparrow]

i did wanna buy supporter but I couldnt bring myself to it

[silk junco]

good

[noble pasture]

Are you well?

[silk junco]

it is not worth it at all

[random forge]

I'VE DONE IT LADS

[silk junco]

no im mentally ill currently

[frank sparrow]

I did get my medal of valor and ruined watch this weekend doe!!

[noble pasture]

Raiding meth heads fixes it

[random forge]

A PLUS PORT HOKAN, almost S but I had 1 unauthorised use of force

[frank sparrow]

b r u h

[silk junco]

ive tried

[frank sparrow]

pepperball rifle?

[random forge]

yep

[shell zealot]

If I get 90subs in 3 days I have to buy Ready or Not and I got now 91subs

[random forge]

gave my officers riot shield with the 1911 and no mags so they had to use they're pepperball weapons

plus a shit ton of gas grenades and flashes with heavy ceramic armour

[frank sparrow]

i mean it is worth it, we should run some after i finish work tmr

[frank sparrow]

i am such an idiot, i wish i thought of that when i did my runs

[random forge]

tbf it took me a month or two till I figured it out lol

[shell zealot]

I'll buy it like in.. 1 or 2 days

[frank sparrow]

ngl I can't wait to pull an all nighter getting S on all new dlc missions

@gaunt gale will it be like payday 2 in which you only need the dlc to host the missions? Meaning if I hosted a dlc mission, a friend without it could join?

[silk junco]

it is like that yes

[gaunt gale]

Yes it is.

[primal gate]

Even when I do that sometimes my AI still draw a glock with the slide locked and try shoot, they're not the brightest.

[random forge]

yep

[random forge]

probably ex marine corp

[gaunt gale]

That is confirmed to be fixed.

[random forge]

I think they'd be more suited with crayons

[primal gate]

I'll need to give it a try again soon then, I gave up on a non-lethal run when I first played it through and haven't tried again since.

[winter pendant]

hi kaminsky

[shell zealot]

Only things ik about this game

1. Good looking game
2. You're S.W.A.T

Other than seen 1 short I never seen full gameplay

• I wanna buy it since.. I play Payday and you're there a robber, so I wanna see the POV of police that's rescuing I think

[vivid crescent]

Is there a server browser? I keep getting "game is full" messages

Just got in but it seems like it kept trying to join full games

[sour fulcrum]

i think there are mods which let you browse for servers (might be wrong) the menu mod

[merry kindle]

In game mod menu

[sour fulcrum]

exactly

[merry kindle]

which will be gone for a bit till it gets updated after tomorrow lmao

[sour fulcrum]

hmm sad

[weak wagon]

do we know what time the game is getting updated/dlc release?

[primal gate]

Put about 500 hours into PD2, I love both.

[merry kindle]

On steam page, might be pinned in #💬general-discussion

[shell zealot]

Cute, I only did about 200 but after robbing banks, jewellery stores and buying Payday 3.. I wanna look how the Police's/Swat's pov looks like

[weak wagon]

oh I know the date I was curious of the actual like time time, thank you tho

[shell zealot]

(pls don't spoil, imma get that game in like.. 2 days)

[merry kindle]

steam page should show local time

[primal gate]

I played a tiny bit of 3, cba with it. PD2 I Haven't played much in years though, so a lot of it is completely new to me.

[weak wagon]

ah I see it, tysm

[merry kindle]

np gang

[brisk scaffold]

What time does update drop tomorrow?

[golden sigil]

Do we know how much the dlc is gonna be tomorrow? It'll be my bday tomorrow and wanna get me and a friend the dlc

[night pasture]

10 bucks

[hexed leaf]

$9.99 seemingly

[stable kernel]

According to the steam page it ought to be at <t:1721761200:F> adjusted to your timezone

[golden sigil]

Thanks

[blissful harness]

Man I hope I got the money to buy that DLC.

[umbral oar]

i cant find the timer on the store page

[night pasture]

it is right where the buy now button would be

[umbral oar]

OH

last time i checked it said 24 hours i thought it was some generic thing

[amber dock]

nope the time it says on Steam is auto converted to your region timezone

very nice feature by Valve

[stone stump]

by web browsers giving access to system clock*

[amber dock]

yeah?

[silver palm]

21 hours, sheesh

[umbral oar]

that seems kinda long

[silver palm]

Looks like it's releasing in the evening for me

[stone stump]

well, actually it's not based on system clock, so my bad there

[silver zodiac]

yeah steam tells me 21 hours

[dusky turtle]

DLC and the games not even finished lmaoooo

[grave helm]

how much is the DLC

[silver zodiac]

? game working well DLC releasing in 21 hours

[plain osprey]

10 bucks

[grave helm]

eh

[silver zodiac]

i think it will be 10€

[grave helm]

for 3 maps and some cosmetics?

[jovial torrent]

Will the DLC and update launch at the same time?

[mild latch]

Most popular clips are rather embarrassing to watch, imo.
Nobody tries to arrest, they all think this is a generic murder power fantasy sim

[stone stump]

for the ability to host 3 new maps and some cosmetics*

[shy tulip]

Yes

[jovial torrent]

👍

[gaunt nebula]

Hope they fix the suspect AI along with this DLC 🫠

[stone stump]

because that's how the game plays right now. suspects don't surrender unless you literally "pokeball" them using tacticals such as flashbangs (and even then there's a chance it won't be effective)

[worthy rover]

Will people with the supporters edition get the DLC for free?

[untold cloak]

Happy to see SixtyAteWhisky being featured on RoN

[plain osprey]

yep

[mild latch]

I don't see what's stopping them from throwing one or two, then.
Hell, often when suspects are down, they just shoot them in the head once more.

[analog ibex]

is the DLC a paid DLC or free update?

[untold cloak]

paid im pretty sure

[opaque meadow]

9.99

[shell zealot]

In the short I seen like a hospital or something and he shot 1 guy and then reported him and there was audio I think "Sir" or something "Suspect down." And other guy said "Roger that" or something and then got 1 guy to give up and screamed at him "Get down,hands in the air!"

[analog ibex]

oh only 9.99? thats not bad, it has 2 maps right?

[stone bay]

Three

[onyx sparrow]

Do we know if people who don't have the DLC can join the lobby of someone hosting the new maps?

[ionic gale]

It is sad that the AI does play a part of that

[stable kernel]

The guns, balaclava, and general game wide update are free, with the the maps requiring only the host to own the dlc to play on them

[plain osprey]

#💬general-discussion message

[humble mauve]

Yes, only the host is required to have the DLC in order to play on the maps in multiplayer

[mild latch]

I think I'm just going to uninstall right now and just re-download the whole thing when the DLC drops.

[untold cloak]

are methheads gonna be able to wallbang my entire team in this dlc?

[worthy rover]

Will supporter edition owners get the dlc or is it going to be the same for everyone

[humble mauve]

Supporters will get it free

[modest bear]

man, I've lost so many runs to the fact that tasered suspects aren't able to be arrested

[ionic gale]

Huh? ;-:

[modest bear]

they're literally incapacitated why can't I cuff them

[ionic gale]

Its prob a bug :/

[untold cloak]

Ready or Not has proven to me that non-lethal weapons are such a disadvantage in every way

[ionic gale]

They feel more like a hassle to use more than an actual item to utilize

[untold cloak]

the only time i actually use the taser is IF im already going in to handcuff

[ionic gale]

Also the gunplay is just too satisfying imo LUL

[shell zealot]

Anyone , I just wanna ask, how well is this game optimized?(I don't have the strongest Pc, but I can run Payday3 at Ultra Quality Plus )

[modest bear]

while the target is stunned, is it not logical to handcuff them DURING THE STUN ANIMATION rather than waiting for them to raise their weapon and get a couple of shots off before shouting at them and dying?

[primal gate]

Beanbag shotgun is the way, even then you usually need 2 hits.

[ionic gale]

I don’t know my exact build but my 3060 can run it ok

[untold cloak]

ive been rocking it for a while but more often than not they can still cause at least a heavy bleed before you can stop them

[ionic gale]

I get stutters sometimes but I would infer that mid to high tier PC would be good for the game

I don’t know how well the performance is on lower end rigs, my own build is OK for the games that I play

[modest bear]

same goes for the pepper spray

[shell zealot]

Ok

[modest bear]

while they're reeling from the spray you should be able to arrest them.

[ionic gale]

My main problems is mostly just texture, loading and small stutters

[dawn surge]

It's okay at best, make sure you're running Dx11.

[ionic gale]

I run it in DX12

[dawn surge]

12's too buggy

[untold cloak]

DX 12 stutters way too much when loading things

[stone stump]

no. it's buggy for you

[dawn surge]

lmao, bad timing

[shy tulip]

That will soon™️ be fixed

[dawn surge]

yippee

[ionic gale]

I mean from my very basic knowledge of Direct X:

[untold cloak]

happy to hear it, it runs pretty efficiently otherwise

[shell zealot]

I have I think both DX11 and DX12 (In Payday3, I can choose between DX11 or DX12)

[dawn surge]

I get better overall stats on Dx11

[stone stump]

everyone does

[dawn surge]

I'm running a 3060 and a 16 core cpu don't rember which one

[ionic gale]

DirectX 12 is for when you want prettier visuals and better fps

[shell zealot]

I didn't know chill

[ionic gale]

Direct X 11: is usually for older hardware and it’s for stability

[shell zealot]

Ok

[ionic gale]

Obviously, I could be totally wrong and anybody that is more knowledgeable on this stuffs can correct me

[tranquil swallow]

WHY

[stone stump]

not sure why should i chill?

[mild latch]

Apparently they shouldn't be able to see so easily through the tightest openings

[dawn surge]

common courtesy

[ionic gale]

How should I launch the game?

[stable kernel]

You’ll basically have to redownload all of the current size anyway, perhaps more, for the new content due to the engine change

[ionic gale]

DX11 or DX12?, I’ve been launching it in Direct X 12 for a while now

[minor lion]

Whatever is smoother for ur game

[mild latch]

Every update takes ages to re-arrange files with this game. And I got mods.
Also, 1000mb/s internet, so. Probably faster that way.

[minor lion]

DX12 can be wonky sometimes but its perfect in other games

[shell zealot]

Sounded aggressive

[tranquil swallow]

oh really? so clean install is the way to go

[ionic gale]

next time that I hop on Ima compare to two

[stone stump]

you assumed it's aggressive*

[minor lion]

Anyone here hate the stress system in singleplayer mode or is it just me?

[primal gate]

Yea, it's risky still. Even if you play slow and mirror each door you still run a risk. Valley of Dolls was a nightmare for me trying to non-lethal, even after I found an optimal route.

[ionic gale]

Another factor of poor performance of your game is if you’re also running mods

[dawn surge]

ye ye, it's the whole reason why I still run dx11 on RON only lol

[ionic gale]

I run a fair amount of mods, so that’s obviously going to take a hit on my performance

[stone stump]

it's hard to know when correcting someone is bad. as far as i'm concerned knowing the truth is a win-win. it's not like anyone loses something here by being wrong or right

[dawn surge]

idrc

[tawdry lagoon]

gah damn u right, I really hope some rather simple mods still work tho

[mild latch]

My performances have been fine thus far. We'll see if UE5 screws me over.
Also hoping I don't need mods anymore to fix the AI

[minor lion]

Can u guys kiss and make up, thanks

[tranquil swallow]

you'll have to update those mods too

[ionic gale]

okie

[ionic gale]

I know that the 1.1 update is going to switch the game from unreal engine four to unreal engine five

[stable kernel]

You’ll have to wait for for the mods to be updated first, which requires time to setup the new tools

[tranquil swallow]

i see why it would be easier to just uninstall especially if you have mods

[tawdry lagoon]

also I hope that they fix the mismatched skin color cause idk why judge has lightskin hands or every officer for that matter

[ionic gale]

What will be the big differences with UE5?

[frail owl]

I'm just curious cuz I haven't played in months

[dawn surge]

it'll most likely overhaul most of the game

[stable kernel]

As far as I know it’s not supposed to be visible to the user initially, barring mods breaking and it now supporting shader pre compilation

[dawn surge]

In terms of graphics, etc

[ionic gale]

Ah

[dawn surge]

^^^

[frail owl]

did the devs find a fix for fps drops and stuttering (like a slideshow) even on higher end pcs?

or has is not been fixed after so many months/years still

[ionic gale]

The game will look better and I’m guessing the performance will be better too?

[shy tulip]

Next update adds PSO caching, so yes

[tranquil swallow]

i wish they released the patch notes

[ionic gale]

One thing that I am pretty sure is on everybody’s mind. Is something that we want.

[stable kernel]

Eventually they will add some of the new tech features that will change/enhance visuals

[ionic gale]

I’m just going to say it…

Will the AI be less egregious?, We don’t know yet.

[untold cloak]

im having that time right now on the Hotel map

[ionic gale]

I’m not talking about just the suspects. I’m talking about a majority of the game’s AI

[frail owl]

ive played the game a lot especially pre release and honestly it felt to me more like the police ai were a pain in the ass. the enemies did do some crazy shit sometimes but other than that any level of difficulty i just saw as a challange and didn't feel so hard

[tawdry lagoon]

For comparison I've played Dead by Daylight before UE5 and after UE5 and honestly I can say it looks a tad bit better on the new maps but it had 0 performance loss after the switch, some funny bugs sure but nothing that makes the game unplayable. Hopefully it's at least as smooth as that in RoN :3

[ionic gale]

My main problem along with many others is like the freaking navy seal accuracy, almost every suspect usually has and their aggression

I understand that Andre and his gang on 4U gas station are likely on meth and that could be a reason for why they’re not freaking complying but I have to put them down multiple times

[mild latch]

My number 1 problem with the AI is how you can't stop your guys from cuffing and collecting whenever they feel like it

[modest bear]

my number 1 gripe with AI is how they have wallhacks and will hear you even if you walk

[frail owl]

there is actually a new bug that came after the 1.0 update, in 4u gas station if u go to the left and take the double metal doors your ai will NOT be able to stack up on it instead they just stand in the area outside no matter what u do

[primal gate]

Ides? Key tip, use door wedges.

[tawdry lagoon]

That's actually realism, if they're on meth they have adrenaline running through their brain which means it takes a tad bit more for them to drop. Same thing with real life house raids (military). When the enemy knows you're coming I've seen guys take like 1/3rd of a mag before they drop up close from a 556

[ionic gale]

I understand that the LSPD is not well liked by literally everybody in this city, but there’s no need to freaking fire at my boys constantly

[ionic gale]

Yeah ik, aside from the aggression, which is something that I could push aside. My problem how accurate they are sometimes

[untold cloak]

my favorite part is when suspects still continue to shoot after a flashbang hits them point blank

[ionic gale]

I literally saw a random I was playing with a get shot in the head by a Glock by a terrorist… he flopped

[frail owl]

honestly man... idk what to say about that either way i can't call that being "realistic" or not

[tawdry lagoon]

I'll add onto this that yeah, they are really accurate but the most annoying part is how accurate they are whilst you are moving.

[ionic gale]

Yee lol

[tawdry lagoon]

once they lock onto you it's done

[ionic gale]

I think there needs to be balance ofc

[modest bear]

have they given the enemies limb damage mechanics?

[ionic gale]

Don’t make every suspect so compliant to the point that the game gets boring, but also don’t make them constantly fire you to the point that it turned into a survival shooter on some maps

[ionic gale]

I mean, I’m sure there’s some limb damage mechanics

[sullen parcel]

UE5 RoN gonna go crazy

[ionic gale]

Now, of course, me constantly dying and stuff could be acquitted to me being trash at video games and that’s not necessarily wrong

Also, very small complaint that has nothing to do with the game but my crappy headphones…

[stone stump]

nuh uh, the suspect ai is actually broken

[ionic gale]

My headphones are poo poo, my mic doesn’t work ;-;

which it’s very important for a teamwork game like this

[ionic gale]

I feel like it’s both lmao

[stone stump]

swat ai is broken to counter the broken suspect ai, if that's what you mean

[ionic gale]

Oh yeah sometimes my AI buddies have the collective IQ of 5.4 as well

I get so sad of this AI sometimes I log off and listen to Kendrick to cure my terminal illness of a “skill issue”

[untold cloak]

the ai in general just makes me hate myself

[ionic gale]

Oh damn, I forgot that the DLC launches tomorrow

[untold cloak]

man im trying to do S rank playthrough rn

[ionic gale]

I just don’t like greased palms

It’s a fine map as a concept, but it’s just too big for the 4 man swat team

[untold cloak]

agree

[ionic gale]

Sure it gets fixed in co-op mode when you’re with your buddies, but in commander mode or a single player, maybe having the ability to have the option to play with at least 6 dudes or something would be nice

I know that I am supposed to suspend my disbelief a lot for this game, but meh an entire port would visibly have more officers to assault it

[stone stump]

the scaling alone on that map scares me

[ionic gale]

I instantly get lit up at the area where I start entering the actual package storage

[stone stump]

truck tyres alone are like 4/5 your size lmao

[ionic gale]

It’s scaree

[silk junco]

hi bub

[silver palm]

Greased Palms is one hell of a map not that it really matters but it makes me trip out

[untold cloak]

Its confusing af on first playthrough lol

[ionic gale]

Hey Vivi

[silver palm]

I don't really like it but it's my opinion

[ionic gale]

The first time I completed it in single player mode was unironically, a sort of joke non lethal run

[shrewd jetty]

isnt it more realistic like normal house and search warrant

[ionic gale]

I was the only dude who brought a Powerball gun and I just started unloading pepper balls into every suspect and I was surprisingly getting all arrests

Pepperball… I did not make the suspects comply by throwing scratch tickets at them

My joke non lethal run they got ruined when the last dude got a chest full of 12 gauge by one of my AI mates but I didn’t rlly care lul

Man AutoCorrect does not like me

[modest bear]

I hate how you can't arrest stunned suspects

[ionic gale]

you guys probably see how much I have to freaking edit my texts ;-;

[modest bear]

what is the point of stunning them?

[ionic gale]

You’re supposed to shout for compliance

They hopefully they’re supposed to listen and surrender like everybody else, but I would much rather go to the dude and cuff them there but idk I guess you could’ve equate that to being realistically dangerous

[modest bear]

also what is even the point of holding cuffs

[dapper lotus]

Is the DLC just a new map ?

[stone stump]

at this moment larping only

[silk junco]

3 maps along with a free content update

[shy tulip]

3 maps and a cosmetic, everything else is in the free update

[dapper lotus]

Will there be new weapons ?

[shy tulip]

They're part of the free update

[dapper lotus]

Do we know what they are yet ?

[silk junco]

yes check #🎨ron-screenshots-and-art message

[dapper lotus]

What’s the rifle ? Is it a MK18 or a 417 ?

[silk junco]

its a pdw

[stone stump]

or the announcements, or literal description of the dlc

[dapper lotus]

A SMG ?

[silk junco]

(i do not know what pdw stands for so im sorry)

[stone stump]

personal defense weapon

[ionic gale]

Somebody already asked about this, but why do we have equable handcuffs? ;-;

[silk junco]

only the 3 shown

[shy tulip]

Idk, tacticool shit

I imagine it's a remnant from pvp

[dapper lotus]

What’s that

[ionic gale]

I could yap about that if you want

[dapper lotus]

Please

[stone stump]

short barreled pistol/rifle with good armor piercing capabilities

[gleaming fable]

big updates like these forcing me to play the game as the devs intended (rip mods lmao)

[ionic gale]

A PDW is a weapon that is given to irregular troops usually security or tank drivers or something like that…

They’re basically something that you Would arm somebody with if a full length rifle is too too big, but you want to give them something more than a pistol

[untold cloak]

a medic is a good example

[ionic gale]

I don’t think medics supposed to even carry weapons

[untold cloak]

they are authorized to but can only use in self defense

ie if theyre being shot at

[ionic gale]

That’s also another thing about PDW’s

They usually used for people who are not expected to be in combat, but they would need a weapon to defend themselves if the situation arises

You’re not gonna be charging with a P90 straight into battle and while it could technically be used for it, it’s not really designed for that use

[untold cloak]

in war most medics would only be authorized a pistol
(unless youre facing the russians in ww2 then they could carry whatever)

[ionic gale]

Do you want to know the four types of PDWs?

[ionic gale]

Yee pistols are usually what’s given to them…

Like I said before, PDWs are given to somebody who doesn’t need a full rifle (like an AK 47) but you want to give them something more than a pistols

The definitions get a little bit hazy as many games even the game we’re talking about, Ready or Not lump them with submachine guns, even though they’re technically a separate of weapons you could say

[untold cloak]

i think its funny how if you tell civs to run to the exit, they just cuff themselves politely and sit down when they get there

[ionic gale]

I only seen a few people tell civilians to run to the exit, other than that we always cuff on site

[untold cloak]

i only do it if im positive the way back is safe

[ionic gale]

One more thing before I drop this PDW nonsense… do you guys want me to tell you what the different 4 types are and an example of one?

[untold cloak]

sure

[ionic gale]

Type 1: ground up, these are designed to be PDW and they are not derived from any existing weapon family (Ex: P90 and MP7)

[rustic elm]

i cant hear the AI bots not talk and even myself playing singleplayer ...

[ionic gale]

Type 2: (stocked) machine pistols, pistols that are designed to be automatic weapons, and they usually have a stock to equate them being PDWs (Stechkin APS and a Skorpion Vz 61)

[dusky turtle]

@ionic gale we get it you watch 9 hole reviews

[untold cloak]

9 holes (in george brixley's head)

[ionic gale]

LUL u saw that vid too?

[modest bear]

can we please bring back the "restart mission" button?

whose idea was it to remove the thing? It save you like a minute of waiting in between missions

[stone stump]

its still there btw

[untold cloak]

its always been there wdym

[stone stump]

it's just not in commander mode for obvious reasons

[modest bear]

what are the obvious reasons

[ionic gale]

type 3: mini SMGs, pretty self-explanatory, they are mini versions of full-size SMG’s (the MP5k is a good example)

Type 4: shortened rifle, basically just a shortened rifle (the AK 74U is a very good example)

[modest bear]

they could just apply the stress changes when you click the button

[untold cloak]

in commander your actions taken in mission affect your crew
forgot to read the above message

[ionic gale]

In that nine hole reviews video that FMJ talked about, types can crossover and stuff like that but other than that, my rant about this class weapons is over

[modest bear]

they already have it so if you quit the mission your crew gets stressed, why not just do the same for the restart button lmao

[dapper lotus]

So literally a CQB rifle

[untold cloak]

because you arent supposed to restart in commander

[modest bear]

instead you gotta wait for the results screen to count up, go through a loading screen, traipse all the way from the detectives office, wait 10 seconds to queue up, and then wait 10 more seconds for the level to load

[ionic gale]

Short pistol caliber AR 15s can be in that class of weapons yes

[modest bear]

they gotta make a faster way to attempt stuff more than once

[ionic gale]

It’s a confusing class of weapons to put certain weapons in that circle

[untold cloak]

imma be real ive never even played commander lol, i just play practice and multiplayer

[dapper lotus]

Oh so a rifle chambered with pistols caliber ?

[ionic gale]

Yee

[dapper lotus]

That’s dogshit

Gonna be shooting fucking peas

[untold cloak]

a carbine

[ionic gale]

That new PDW that is coming to the game is basically just a pistol in a fancy ass frame

[dapper lotus]

Might as well give me an airsoft gun

What’s the new pistol tho , I recognise it

[ionic gale]

The FN 509

[dapper lotus]

Think I seen that in insurgency sandstorm

[ionic gale]

It’s a handy little 9mm, I think it looks cool

[dapper lotus]

Good secondary paired with the 416

[untold cloak]

"look at ya, you can fit into handcuffs. Thats pretty cool right!?"

• my swat AI cuffing a suspect

[ionic gale]

Imagine they added more battle rifles?

I mean, I know that they’re practically not used in law-enforcement at all nowadays, but a man can dream

except for sniper teams, but that’s stretch

[untold cloak]

i wish you could have a sniper assist on some maps

[dapper lotus]

Fal

[primal gate]

Would love a HK417.

[dapper lotus]

Wait are you talking about the pistol in that case ? Or the actual rifle

[dapper lotus]

Fr literally a better 416 cuz it’s got a larger caliber

[ionic gale]

Wdym

[dapper lotus]

In the photos of the new weapons there’s two pistols , one standard and another with some stock then a rifle

Is the rifle chambered in pistol rounds or 300 blackout ?

[ionic gale]

That new rifle looks like a honey badger look-alike

It’s .300 BLK I’m sure

[hollow citrus]

It is

[dapper lotus]

Yea I was gonna say but I was talking about that the whole time not that shitty ass pistol 😂😭

[untold cloak]

imagine if RoN had a rampage mode

[elder void]

What's the proper way to remove mods ahead of tomorrow's update?

[dapper lotus]

100 civilians 0 suspects

[untold cloak]

just open the game in safe mode

[ionic gale]

So that honey Badger looking weapon, the FN 509 and that PDW that just has a pistol in a fancy housing are the new weapons

[elder void]

And that will get rid of the mods permanently?

[hollow citrus]

Yup

[ionic gale]

I heard people wanting another Glock, especially in the Instagram comments lol

[hollow citrus]

Nope

[ionic gale]

Imagine a Glock 22 or sum

[modest bear]

I arrested 3 suspects, but my crew went from anxious to stressed. Why is that? They usually get less stressed even if I arrest a single suspect

[untold cloak]

no, but it wont activate them at all until the devs update the mods to be compatible again

i believe to remove them permanently, you gotta remove them one by one on mod.io, then restart the game

[hollow citrus]

Fuck glock, I want cz 75 auto lol

[elder void]

okay, so I also unsubbed, then ran it in safe mode, then set the launcher back to DX11, then I launched the game from the Desktop shortcut and I no longer see "Modded" on the top left corner.

Didnt have to delete anything manually.

[hollow citrus]

Give me cz, bizon and long barreled ak and the game will be perfect

[ionic gale]

[hollow citrus]

If you somehow bypassed mod detection then well shit dude

[tawny scroll]

•—• redi for dlc

[untold cloak]

are you guys 'ready or not"? heheh

[elder void]

My body is Ready

[untold cloak]

D:

[dapper lotus]

Yurt

[hollow citrus]

Boys check
850 hours check
Supporter edition check
Waiting for half a year check
Fuck yeah I think I'm ready

[elder void]

After the dissappointment of Six Days not having squad AI to this day, this DLC should be a damn good distraction.

[hollow citrus]

Six days is going into great idea bad development length bin like many others

[untold cloak]

like tarkov

[hollow citrus]

No tarkov goes in greedy pigs and full of cheaters trash can 🗑️

[untold cloak]

theyve been ban-waving a lot of cheaters recently

[hollow citrus]

Love the game hate the devs and hate doing one question for a week

[modest bear]

who was going to tell me that they added an entirely new person to sullivan's slope

[hollow citrus]

That's pretty much fixing the problem only by half. Nothing stops them from being new account

[untold cloak]

true, tis a shame at how the company treats it

[hollow citrus]

They pretty much made it clear they just want money and that was after such a cool quality armor update what a disappointment

[ionic gale]

I was surprised to

I didn’t know, Gerard was in a brand new polyamorous relationship with two boyfriends instead of one during the 1.0 release

[hollow citrus]

What are you on about

[ionic gale]

I always call Gerard’s accomplice his boyfriend

[hollow citrus]

You mean his friends in the house

[ionic gale]

Wel technically yes

[hollow citrus]

Well shit be hard after your wife passes I guess

[untold cloak]

finally figured out how to shut that goddamn music off in the nightclub

[tawny scroll]

•~• w o w

[neat obsidian]

Do we know what actual time the DLC will be released or is it a random time on the 23rd

[hollow citrus]

Announcements

[modest bear]

how do you carry yourself in missions so that your officers don't get stressed? I arrested gerard ford and incapacitated the other guys but 2 of my officers are in crisis

[neat obsidian]

am i missing something or does it specify timeframe

[stable kernel]

<t:1721764800:F>

[neat obsidian]

sorry

[hollow citrus]

It does, it shows me there for example 23 at 23:00

[primal gate]

Incapacitating impacts morale, because let's be honest, 'incapacitating' is only until their status is confirmed by EMS.

[neat obsidian]

found it just as you messaged damn im blind

[modest bear]

so how do I prevent officers from getting stressed? I arrested suspects!

one of them is my fault since I somehow hit them with friendly fire

idk why the other one is stressed though

[hollow citrus]

Status: unfortunately didn't make it from incapacitation after full mag of 556

[primal gate]

Non-lethal, or take a guy with the right skills, or you have to rotate squad mates.

[prime wing]

they eventually just get stressed i assume.You can get them back in shape by running gas station and doing non lethal runs where you take eveyrone alive.

[primal gate]

Although. you can repeat an easy mission with non-lethal to improve moral.

[primal gate]

I wonder why 😅

[hollow citrus]

Only way is non lethal and have perks for morale, exploit way is to roll gas station non lethal everytime they do

[modest bear]

aight time to run Megabytes until my officers learn how to not be stressed

[untold cloak]

megabytes is a shitshow for me

[primal gate]

Yep that's it, just alt+F4 if someone dies.

[hollow citrus]

Guy has no head
**don't move! **

[modest bear]

if I'm going for cqc nonlethal, should I use the TPL?

beanbag would just kill them

[untold cloak]

beanbag only kills them on headshots

[royal nimbus]

TPL has horrific ammo economy

[blissful harness]

Gonna want a hand in helping taking down the Voll House S rank.
I almost did it alone, but I got one shot by the remaining 4th suspect.

[primal gate]

Last time I suggested non-lethal with my friends "Let's go non lethal" And I beanbag the first guy in the head.

[untold cloak]

@hollow citrus trolled

[royal nimbus]

use the other pepperball gun (it still is hella inefficient but you can carry more pepper in a mag)

[untold cloak]

for non-lethals i equp my ai with pepper guns, but myself use the beanbag gun and go for body shots

[hollow citrus]

Beanbag is awp of ready or not non lethal

[royal nimbus]

i usually go half and half peppers and beanbags

[untold cloak]

my biggest issue is my ai managing their ammo, if they run out they just go to full lethal pistols

[hollow citrus]

Real shit is when you and your boys forget gas masks on non lethal

[royal nimbus]

pepper has a nice little AOE effect but the beanbag really gets suspects to cut the shit

[hollow citrus]

It's immediate and it stuns, it's just good

[untold cloak]

ive continued to fire at suspects with pepper for up to a full mag and they still try to fight lol

[hollow citrus]

I bet cops irl wish it would work the same on armored suspects

[primal gate]

Problem with that is they stumble/stagger and often have a chance to shoot a few rounds, and you run the risk of the cloud of pepper getting you an UUOF.

[untold cloak]

thats okay i execute civs anyway

[hollow citrus]

Gas mask, and barrel love tap

[primal gate]

Gas mask won't help with the problems I suggested.

[hollow citrus]

Tasers are still only worth it if you are a host

[primal gate]

I prefer beanbags because as long as you can aim you're good.

[untold cloak]

how so

[royal nimbus]

the best LTL is just a shield to let the suspect vent their aggression (and bullets)

[hollow citrus]

I'm pretty sure cloud itself doesn't give you unauthorized

[primal gate]

I've had it happen when a bad guy has been near a civvie, like I 100% did not shoot the civilian, but the pepper hurt their little eyes./

[hollow citrus]

They have massive desync if you aren't host, rarely hitting point blank even

[untold cloak]

I see yeah that makes sense

real men use the pepper spray

[primal gate]

I prefer beanbag because you shoot them in the stomach, they stop, if they do not listen to your commands, 1 more beanbag and they give up.

Slower, but more reliable.

[hollow citrus]

I'll test that out I feel like that would be massive bs if it does so. I remember pissing with pepper spray on civis like insane

[primal gate]

If I'm wrong it's due to an AI aiming poorly I guess.

[hollow citrus]

It was so good before they changed it, I think they made it so suspects still can fire at you if peppered

[hollow citrus]

That might be very much the issue, they have aiming cone rather than actual aim

[royal nimbus]

no, they just dont like to give up when peppered
theyll run out of the cloud and by grace of God they'll immediately return to normal

[primal gate]

Yea, must've shot a civvie straight in the face with a pepperball!

[hollow citrus]

Basically they said just tough it out bruv

[untold cloak]

well deserved

[primal gate]

After they ruined my S rank, yes! 🙃

[hollow citrus]

That little artificial bastard

[untold cloak]

basically AI is untrustable if youre trying to do a specific task of some sort lol

[hollow citrus]

Just like... People?
????

?!?!?!

[untold cloak]

how does a trained swat officer just allow him to be killed while arresting a suspect

they will take a mag of gunfire while arresting somoene and just continue with the arrest and die

[hollow citrus]

That's Los Ang... Suenos police for you right here

[untold cloak]

[hollow citrus]

Them funding cuts hit hard on training

[untold cloak]

Los Suenos Finest

[hollow citrus]

Ain't hard to be finest when city is a big junk yard I guess

[untold cloak]

nvm this game is extremely realistic to the california state

[hollow citrus]

See! That's what I call good environmental story telling

Game so realistic crack heads have super powers just like irl

[untold cloak]

crackheads are like john wick

[hollow citrus]

They call him John crackhead, he's not always present but he will get you when you least expect

[untold cloak]

he killed a 4 man entry swat team, with a fucking pencil

[hollow citrus]

just another day of sniffing meth

[untold cloak]

cool update idea, allow me to change chemlight color

[hollow citrus]

Throwable chemlights is real deal

[untold cloak]

well the idea of the chemlight is to mark a clear room

[hollow citrus]

Or maybe, just maybe one day. Yellow nvg color

Full color nvg like in sandstorm is probably overkill

[hollow citrus]

I use it usually only for lighting shit up

[untold cloak]

its very helpful in multiplayer if other people also understand what its for

[hollow citrus]

And honestly they aren't brigh enough imo

[ionic gale]

Hey

[grizzled quest]

Do we know all the new cosmetics? Balaclavas and some new camo are what I saw

[hollow citrus]

If it's gotta mark the room I want it bloom like a fireworks

[rose wadi]

Was there more than what was named on the DLC page?

The ones listed don't seem to have generic names, so Google images shows what they should look like I think

[shy tulip]

The balaclava is not part of the DLC, it is part of the free update

The DLC is just the 3 maps and a cosmetic set which Kaminsky has already revealed

[rose wadi]

Im relativly new to the discord so... I dont know who that is yet, ahah

[untold cloak]

Kaminsky is a dev

[rose wadi]

Ah!

[covert aurora]

Kaminsky is a CM

[untold cloak]

Balaclavas being the feature cosmetic on the game covers, didnt get introduced until after 1.0 smh

CM?

[stable kernel]

Community manager

[untold cloak]

ohhh, so not an actual developer for the game?

[prime wing]

more or less yeah, just someone dedicated to community management

[untold cloak]

i see okay

[shy tulip]

It was in the game in the past when cosmetics were characters, instead of individual pieces. They got removed like halfway into EA though and return now

[restive atlas]

Will the new DLC be coming with a new Police faction?

[covert aurora]

no

[shy tulip]

I was gonna say "what other police faction" but then remembered yeah they could add more feds

[covert aurora]

they very well could

[shy tulip]

plus every major city i've been to is divided up into like 3+ police forces

[covert aurora]

but i don't think they are adding one this time around

we shall see in the future

[restive atlas]

Darn

[ionic gale]

I have a theory

[covert aurora]

oh?

[ionic gale]

I don’t think Los Sueños is a reimagining of LA

The crime in the city is so bad that it’s no longer considered LA in my eyes

It’s Detroit, LS is in Michigan confirmed

[rose wadi]

Well, you can see the iconic bank in the skyline in one map

One sec, lemme find the name of the building

Oh, it's just called "U.S. Bank Tower" lol

But yeah, irl it's located in downtown LA, and can be seen on the stage where you raid the "talent agency"

[covert aurora]

it's more closer is San Diego

[ionic gale]

well it’s Detroit… ✨in spirit✨

[rose wadi]

Hehe

[rose wadi]

I'm a New Yorker, so my California geography is baaaaad

[covert aurora]

all good man

[tender igloo]

Do those that already own the supporter edition get the dlc for free?

[covert aurora]

yes

[rose wadi]

That's the word on the street

[lofty hearth]

dlc time zone pls ?

[humble mauve]

<t:1721764800:f>

auto adjusts to your systems time

[ionic gale]

I’ve been born and raised in this state

(send help)

[rose wadi]

😭

[covert aurora]

i know the feeling expect in the midwest :/

[hasty needle]

i just got the game and im playing the second mission (the pink headphones guy), and i was wondering if theres any way to remove my swat team because they are pissing me off

[near hill]

can anyone else not buy the DLC?

[covert aurora]

how so?

[covert aurora]

it's not released yet tommorow

[hasty needle]

because i just feel like theyre annoying like they keep going infront of me and its too much to keep commanding them id rather solo it

or if i can only bring one guy not all the 4 but i dont think it works like that

[covert aurora]

if you scroll wheel if you wanted you can control 1 spific team like blue or red

and it only brings two officers

[tender igloo]

Ty ty 🫡

[covert aurora]

or if you want you can order them to move to a spific spot and just do the mission

[covert aurora]

np! 🫡

[fickle totem]

I’m pretty sure it’s just “hold”

[covert aurora]

i am sure your right, also love your videos!

[hasty needle]

yes ill do that

[fickle totem]

Thank you my friend!

[hasty needle]

so theres no way to just remove them?

[covert aurora]

no unfortently

[covert aurora]

you are very welcome! 🙂

[ionic gale]

Unless you host a friends only multiplayer game or use mods your stuck with those dudes

[hearty bear]

hopefully modding will remain slightly the same for UE5

[frigid shell]

Does anyone lean in the game? I feel like I’m doing it wrong. Is the point to not be caught when trying to shoot a suspect? Because I usually get caught either way when leaning

[silk junco]

it’s to see around doors without exposing yourself too much

[shy tulip]

You can certainly go the entire game without leaning, or go the entire game leaning. It helps, but in the end there are other things you can do as well

[frigid shell]

I may be doing something wrong. I usually still get caught. Is it that way as soon as you see the suspect you can shoot them? Because I usually am seen either way

[untold cloak]

i use the anchored leaning a lot with alt

[frigid shell]

I’ll try that more

[silk junco]

its not a stealth game

[untold cloak]

you can peak a lot more, while exposing yourself more but you can retreat quickly by letting go of alt

[frigid shell]

I try to keep it stealth a bit because you know what happens when you get shot

[shy tulip]

It's a way to shoot suspects and then retreat behind cover if you need it, but as Vivien said, it's not stealth and you will naturally get hit

The only true stealth is LTLs but even then you will eventually go loud most of the time

[frigid shell]

I see what you mean

Because in Ides of March I try to lean through the hallways outside or inside the rooms and usually still get spotted and then gunned down

I’m trying to get S on all the missions

[untold cloak]

wait until you get to Sins of The Father

its basically ides of the march but a bigger shitshow

[frigid shell]

Oh damn, thanks for the heads up

[untold cloak]

i just spent 2 hours trying to S rank it

my main issues were the suspects have NO problem rushing you with fully auto MP5s and ARs, and your swat AI for some reason breaks on doorways a lot

[sharp perch]

do you guys think 9bangs could be a thing like an unlockable for playing all missions effectively? I think it would be neat for more complex gadgets to be used and rewarded for good gameplay

[shy tulip]

They're in the files, but I think the devs are hesitant to add them because they're just straight up better than flashbangs (or maybe more performance consuming considering they're, 9 flashbangs in 1)

[frigid shell]

And it’s funny how I struggled to beat A Lethal Possession with S even tho there are only three suspects

[untold cloak]

id like to see smoke grenades exist, besides CS gas

[frigid shell]

Prob bc the main one has an AR that can shoot through walls

[hearty bear]

The best weapon are shotgun imo

[frigid shell]

I always use the beanbag shotgun

[untold cloak]

im having big trouble on Neon Tomb because the suspects dont give up very easily

[frigid shell]

Fr do the bombers give up tho?

[ionic gale]

I mean, they are terrorists

[shy tulip]

Yes, but not if you are too close

[untold cloak]

they do after some time, but they definitely try to push their limits

[shy tulip]

hint hint

[ionic gale]

I just brought 7.62x51mm and didn’t even try neon tomb in an S rank

[untold cloak]

used an entire shotgun tube hitting one in the chest with bean bags before he finally gave up

[frigid shell]

Damn. Does the bean bag blow up the bombs tho?

[ionic gale]

I don’t negotiate with those dudes so I just did lethal force because I’m pretty sure all bets are off the table and I have execute authority to kill any combatant that’s not on the force

[untold cloak]

no thankfully

[frigid shell]

Bc realistically a bomber probably wouldn’t surrender

[untold cloak]

im tryna get the valor achievement and all cosmetics, this is the equivalent of CBT

[shy tulip]

That's why you wack them in the pp with a beanbag until they give up

a universal KO

[ionic gale]

;-:

[frigid shell]

The Hand. That’s what those terrorists are called btw

[untold cloak]

I hate the hand, prefer the foot more

[ionic gale]

Realistically I’m pretty sure that during a terrorist attack like neon tomb, I’m pretty sure I have executed authority to kill every terrorist in there as they have shown, they’re willing to kill anybody that moves

[shy tulip]

You're free to, just don't expect the same score as someone who takes the challenge and takes em all alive

[ionic gale]

If they surrender, that makes my job easier

[untold cloak]

that dance floor is a real hot zone too, i usually save it for last

[ionic gale]

If they want to surrender I’ll take them in gladly

[untold cloak]

in my normal runs i like making them surrender and then shooting them

unauthorized use of force isnt gonna stop me from killing terrorists

[ionic gale]

I like neon tomb ig

[untold cloak]

its fun with lethals, not so fun with beanbags and pepper balls

[ionic gale]

Actually brought a SA58 with an LPVO scope

[frigid shell]

I haven’t even got to the mission yet. How hard is it for beginners?

[ionic gale]

They are terrorists that have heavy gear

Be careful of the bomb vests that they will have in once they start charging at you you can either try to hit them with a beanbag or just shoot them dead

[acoustic ridge]

first few missions are pretty easy, there are a few missions with heavily armed and armored suspects that are more difficult

[shy tulip]

Neon has one of (if not the best) armored suspects in the game

[untold cloak]

you just gotta be careful, and pay attention to who you're shooting

[shy tulip]

with big juicy guns that will punch your armor

[frigid shell]

Bc I was doing fine until I got to The Spider, where the suspects have fully automatic weapons

[ionic gale]

I think they have ceramic or steel?

[shy tulip]

idk

I just remember a dev saying they had the best like a year ago

[frigid shell]

I believe in Neon Tomb sometimes civs also have bomb vests

[shy tulip]

Hence why idk if that changed

[ionic gale]

Neon is the only map where I bring big boy calibers like .300 Blackout and 7.62x51mm

[untold cloak]

ngl if i were to be a terrorist id definitely join The Hand

[frigid shell]

Suspects with fully auto weapons are a game changer

[ionic gale]

yeah

[untold cloak]

suspects with fully auto weapons are hard to fight, which is cool

[ionic gale]

Btw if you use an SMG I would recommend using burst or fully automatic

[acoustic ridge]

remember to use your ai swat as meat shields, get them to go in first and clear everything

[untold cloak]

not if youre doing an S tier run

[frigid shell]

As long as they don’t die

But I do let them clear with a throwable

[untold cloak]

SWAT AI needs to be babysat like children. unless youre specifically asking them to clear a room

[ionic gale]

You have to do a complete non lethal run to get S

[frigid shell]

Which is better? Flashbang or CS gas?

[ionic gale]

CS gas lingers & can mess you up if you don’t have a gas mask

[frigid shell]

It’s funny how they always be like “you’re in my way” when in reality they’re the ones in your way

[untold cloak]

flashbangs are a solid option

[ionic gale]

By the way never use the lock pick gun

[acoustic ridge]

swat ai moving in a way to block my path: youre in my way sir

[frigid shell]

I’ve been using it all this time. Why not?

[untold cloak]

wait why? i consistently use it

[ionic gale]

OK I should maybe rephrase it

[frigid shell]

It’s quicker and easier

[untold cloak]

its also silent

[ionic gale]

Yeauh those are some benefits of it

I don’t use a personally, but if anybody wants to use it, go ahead lol

[untold cloak]

though its so much more satisfying to kick open a door

[ionic gale]

I mean, if people are really a stickler about slots, you would not go for the lock gun as it would be a good trade-off aside from magazine or something like that

SMG’s are like the only guns that I use in fully automatic or bursts

[untold cloak]

anyone here actually use C2 effectively?

[ionic gale]

They are supposed to be good with flushing out a person with high volume of fire, and in my experience of using them semi auto, it just doesn’t hit the same with me

I use every other gun in semi automatic other than that

[ionic gale]

What armor do you run?

[frigid shell]

Usually light steel

[ionic gale]

I use heavy armor, usually with ceramic

I don’t use steel all that much because it makes me too slow and I don’t use because I never used it

[untold cloak]

kevlar stab vest

[ionic gale]

Kevlar is good for a very light & mobile build with some sort of protection

[untold cloak]

unfortunately i have never seen someone use kevlar or the stab vest in a serious game

[ionic gale]

I also don’t use stab vests

I think they’re probably good for like maybe the first 2 missions of the game or something

[untold cloak]

if that

[ionic gale]

What guns do you use?

[untold cloak]

usually the 300 blackout rifle

[ionic gale]

I don’t think there’s really a necessarily bad loadout, I like to toy around with a bunch of stuff

[ionic gale]

Im a dude who likes to muck around with a shotgun of slugs

People call it a worse assault rifle, I just like Shotguns

My favorites are the Italian shotguns, B1301, M1014 & Supernova

[primal gate]

Pump action = Bloody good fun!

[ionic gale]

HK416 is my favorite rifle

[primal gate]

Not compatible with S rank, so the brass tells me.

[ionic gale]

It’s really depending on the situation of what gun I would use

[untold cloak]

i like 300 blackout because big boy rounds, can usually get someone to surrender on one shot

[frigid shell]

Tbh idk if speed really matters to me bc I usually try to take it slow

[ionic gale]

For some reason, the supernova is the only gun that’s compatible with a holographic optic

[ionic gale]

Yeah I would would like to tank as much bullets as possible, but without moving like a snail

Also ofc many of you know the old saying

Switching to your pistol is faster than reloading - Gaz 2007

[untold cloak]

i would like to see an optic improvement with this game, a way to view reticles while customizing, changing reticle colors, more reticle options

[ionic gale]

I have utilized that a lot in many games and it has saved my bacon many times

[ionic gale]

That would be kool

[ionic gale]

Also, by the way, be careful with some maps which they may have traps

[frigid shell]

Oh I know, the ones under the doors

[untold cloak]

i just got flanked by a terrorist with an ak, my team behind me. what does my team do? NOTHING

[ionic gale]

Sullivan slope has Gerard and his boyfriend’s cabin in the woods rigged with explosives

[molten wren]

will the UE5 update increase game size?

[ionic gale]

I feel like that your team should probably get investigated for possibly aiding in a terrorist organization for that incident

[untold cloak]

i imagine so

[molten wren]

damn

[ionic gale]

Your teammates are looking a little suspicious ther

[ionic gale]

I have seen many officers, AI and real get blown up by the second door you open in Brisa Cove

There’s usually a trap there that you need to disarm and I seen so many people freaking die at that area with me screaming, no don’t do it don’t open the door. Let me mirror it.

[frigid shell]

Once I told them to clear but they wouldn’t open the door, so I open it, next thing I know, BOOM!!

[ionic gale]

Brisa cove what is the first map that got me pissed off at the game because I remember trying to complete it and I went boom trying to open up a bathroom

[floral bramble]

will i have to go through all my mods to redownload updated versions?

[ionic gale]

I was just finished with the mission ans had to just find civilians and I wanted to punch a hole through my monitor

[frigid shell]

But yeah I always check doors before opening all the way

Is it possible to open it quietly?

[ionic gale]

The thing is that I mirrored it and I checked that it was not rigged

[ionic gale]

You can lock the doors with the lp gun or just with your multitool that you don’t need a gear slot for

[untold cloak]

you looked for grenades on the sides of the doors?

[ionic gale]

You also can peek them

[frigid shell]

I mean opening them because the suspects turn to the door once I open it

[ionic gale]

I swear I did that and I still did not see anything

[ionic gale]

Oh yeah, I mean opening it sorry lul

Yeah, you can lock pick the door and peek the door

[untold cloak]

my greatest tool in this game was figuring out you can move suspects and civilians with commands

[frigid shell]

And then if you open it after peeking, will it make noise?

[jolly verge]

It's wont, you also can push door by walking into it and no one will hear it

[frigid shell]

Alright, I’ll try that from now on

[ionic gale]

Also by the way and I’m pretty sure that you experienced it, but any tear gas will blur your vision red and make you cough if you don’t have a gas mask

[frigid shell]

Right, I always wear gas masks when using those

[untold cloak]

the one guy in your team who brought pepperball gun without saying anything ^

[frigid shell]

Lol, never experienced that. I only played multiplayer once with just my cousin

[untold cloak]

btw is there any way to increase success rate with door breaching?

[jolly owl]

Tried to ask in #leo-ama-questions how would they deal with a terror (Neon and Relapse) situation

Got auto deleted

[untold cloak]

I JUST GOT KILLED BY THE BOMBER FUCK

[jolly verge]

By kicking it?

[untold cloak]

well i meant like get it on first kick

[jolly verge]

only using kicker trait

[untold cloak]

damn

[jolly verge]

or you can mod all doors and set their kick chance to 100%

[jovial frigate]

i cant believe the dlc comes out at 4pm

[ancient cloud]

when is the ue5 update

[prime wing]

along with the update

its in the announcement

[ancient cloud]

the announcement only mentioned about the dlc well the latest one atleast

[shy tulip]

It was confirmed in past letters (and continued to confirm in chat/questions) that the free update includes the ue5 transition

[ancient cloud]

I really need to start shooting more people havent played in a while

gotta complete the hospital level

[ionic gale]

Yo

I was confused on why the G36C no has the carry handle sight

[sharp fox]

you dont deserve it

[ionic gale]

I still luv it

It’s a G36C with Knights Armament aftermarket parts

KAC Handguard and the wonky flip up sights

It grew on me and ngl it looks kewl

[ionic gale]

You want to know sum?

The flip up irons for the G36C

[sharp fox]

gaay

[ionic gale]

The Knights Armament Company discontinued the iron sights a while ago I think for the real gun

You can still get airsoft versions of it, but if you want something like this on your real steel G36? You would have to have a good connection to get something like this since they’re pretty rare

[ionic gale]

I don’t hate the look and this gun is muh fav rifle

[distant tide]

this has probably been asked a bit, but do we know how many mission the dlc is gonna add? im trying to decibe if its worth it

[untold cloak]

3 i believe

[jade apex]

Will I be able to play with my friend while having the rest of my team be bots

[gleaming fable]

once you play with friends, bots are removed

[jade apex]

Two players is small for some missions

[shy tulip]

Not without mods

[jade apex]

Will a feature like that be added?

[shy tulip]

It is something they wanted to look into, but I believe a big part of the challenge was net coding and functionality around multiple players

[gleaming fable]

you can always take that as a challenge to complete it with 2 people.

the only map i think you will have a problem is port hokan. i had problems completing it with 2 people.large map with lots of enemies with long sightlines.
(definitely not skill issue)

[untold cloak]

that map is huuge

[jade apex]

I guess for now me and my friend will try to skill issue less

[rose wadi]

2 players is perfectly doable. My first 30 hours in the game was co-op with just 1 other friend

[gleaming fable]

the 2 of you will do okay with the smaller maps. avoid port hokan for now.

[untold cloak]

might have trouble with greased palms too due to the rather large sightline

[frigid shell]

Btw is it hard to aim with the beanbag shotgun or is it just me? Often times I miss when I could've sworn I hit the suspect

[untold cloak]

im having that problem too, i think its just gun sway

[frigid shell]

I suppose it's hard since it's to get S

[sharp fox]

what i usually do is kill everyone

[sharp fox]

more realistic

[untold cloak]

I swear the bomber is bugged man

i just used all my bean bag ammo and the fucker still isnt surrendering, even with my team laying fire on him with pepperball

[frigid shell]

I mean I’ve seen tutorials on S for neon tomb

Try using the taser. I hear it always causes suspects to surrender

A bit off topic but how come Void Interactive are allowed to call it a taser but in Payday 3, due to copyright, they call him a zapper?

[ionic gale]

Idk :-:

[untold cloak]

ill try, im just getting frustrated as shit because it keeps happening, and i have to restart

[ionic gale]

Payday is a bigger game so the company taser probably wants some of that cash

Idk it’s weird copyright laws and stuff

[frigid shell]

Its funny bc I always thought taser was a word and not a brand name

[ionic gale]

Yeah, me too, and I just realized recently that it was actually a brand x-x

[frigid shell]

In a tutorial it said use the taser against the enemies who never surrender

[frigid shell]

I guess that means tase isn’t a real word either then?

But like I said a while ago, realistically, a bomber probably wouldn’t surrender

I wish it could be an exception for them though to get S if you kill them

[untold cloak]

he makes me wanna blow myself up with his vest

[frigid shell]

And when you guys lean, do you do it holding alt? Is that better?

[ionic gale]

If that was me doing a joke on lethal run I think I would’ve just gave up and shot him in the head with a Glock

[untold cloak]

it gives you more of a peaking angle, also helps with checking under beds

[ionic gale]

I mean, you could key bind it that it would toggle instead of hold

The only button I have on toggle is crouch

[untold cloak]

i wish i could toggle my flashlight

[rose wadi]

You can

[untold cloak]

not what i meant
I meant i wish i could hold the flashlight instead of a toggle

[rose wadi]

D:

[untold cloak]

i hate this 15 second cooldown

[rose wadi]

Ohhh

[ionic gale]

What is the best gun in looks?

[untold cloak]

im a guy that doesnt keep the flashlight on a lot, i just use it momentarily

[ionic gale]

Ignore how actually good it is, what looks kool?

I used to be off put by the G36C with no charging handle but I actually find it kewl

[untold cloak]

i think the mp9

[ionic gale]

Very kewl Swiss gun

I know practically a lot of the gun’s nationality

[untold cloak]

im giving up on neon tomb s rank for now lol

this is actually driving me insane

[ionic gale]

Ah lol

Idk if my gun nerd aura is leaking but I luv these weapons

[sharp grove]

Random question, is there a map for the upstairs part of Sinuous Trail?
Trying to sketch out my S rank attack on it, but wish I had both stories to look at

[ionic gale]

MindJot?

[sharp grove]

Yea

[ionic gale]

Uh I don’t know if there is ;-;

[gleaming fable]

12:01am, June 23

where dlc?

[sharp grove]

Wait, dlc is tmr???

[ionic gale]

Yeah

[gleaming fable]

15 something hours from now according to steam

[ionic gale]

I heard it’s 1:00pm or sim

[jolly owl]

Cute:

For me its on July 24, speaking as a Pinoy

[sharp grove]

Ah yeah. What's the price?

[gleaming fable]

9.99 freedom bucks

[sharp grove]

Ah

I'm using igloo bucks, let me translate quickly

Ah 13.75, decent price

[ionic gale]

I thought it was gonna be moar

[gleaming fable]

3 maps for 10 bucks aint bad i think

[ionic gale]

I kinda wanna be quizzed on the nationally of these firearms in game

Man I thought suspects with gas masks would be immune to gas

[gleaming fable]

spicy air too much for the air filters

[jolly owl]

Wdym? Are you like asking the origin of these firearms?

[ionic gale]

But no apparently they have shit filters & they are not gud

[gleaming fable]

TEMU ASS AIRFILTERS LMAO

[ionic gale]

Yeah

[jolly owl]

Ah:

Most of them are American firearms with a european addition there and there

The AK is of Bulgarian origin, made by Arsenal

F90 is probably Australian

[gleaming fable]

dont you love that guns in this game uses its real name (or something close)

not like cod where it uses some word vomit to come up with gun games. (WTF IS A JOKR? lmaoooooooo)

[ionic gale]

Sig P229 (M11 Compact) is a weird combination of American/German & Swiss

Man Sig Sauer is weird ;-;

[gleaming fable]

sig germany = based
sig usa = cringe

[ionic gale]

Yis

All models of MP5, HK416, USP .45, both UMPs, MP7 & G36 are German

Man Heckler & Koch got a lotta love in this game

[jolly owl]

Its funny that LSPD is undefunded in universe wise

Yet the department can afford 5 HK416s for one element

[rose wadi]

American SWAT did love their H&K

[jolly owl]

God Bless H&K for giving us the best terror-hunting gun of the 21st century though ngl lol

[umbral oar]

first we got Ron now we have Leo

[ionic gale]

FN Herstal from Belgium have the P90 & Five Seven and the new FN 509

the SA 58 is a FN FAL variant BUT it’s not made by FN themselves

It’s a copy of a FN FAL made by the US company DS Arms

[rose wadi]

Funny, I have a rifle made by a DS Industries

[ionic gale]

The MK 18 is ofc an American weapon

SIG Sauer also got some rifles in this game too

[gleaming fable]

the entire city budget went into those. lmao

[ionic gale]

The MCX and that .300 version of it

[gleaming fable]

.300blk guns my beloved

[ionic gale]

They also made the MPX in game

[rose wadi]

I just want me a SPAS-12 that can swap between lethal and non-lethal rounds on the fly ;-;

[ionic gale]

The police department blows all of their money on all the 5.7x28mm ammo we all use

[rose wadi]

pls, be the first game to utilize the semi-auto for lethal rounds, and pump action for less lethal rounds

[jolly owl]

This is why I give my fellow SWAT shitty guns before getting the Tier 1 guns

Guns like ARWC, MK18, MP5A2 and R870 are the ones we use before we get the guns like G36C and 416 after Neon LMAO

[ionic gale]

The Glock is ofc Austrian

[gleaming fable]

ai getting poo guns lmao

[jolly owl]

If it kills, it kills alright lol

Plus its accurate to the underfunding situation

[leaden latch]

Was the Drone in RoN just completely scrapped

[ionic gale]

oh?

[leaden latch]

I thought at a time there was going to be a flight drone used for Recon

[night pasture]

Um yes.

[ionic gale]

I’m guessing it was a very early addition?, Alpha or Beta back in 2019-2020?

[leaden latch]

(Atleast there was a model of it in the armory during pre 1.0)

AND there was a foldable ladder. That would've been a banger.

[gleaming fable]

EE-ONE-D drone lesgo

[ionic gale]

The shotguns are my favorite

[night pasture]

Both are interesting concepts but weren’t really good in practice

[ionic gale]

Italian shottys are the best

Beretta 1301 & both the Benelli Supernova and M1014

They are all my go to boom sticks

[gleaming fable]

THIS IS MY BOOM STICK.gif

[leaden latch]

Yeah, most of the maps they had didn't have much room for recon, and the ladder would've been good but i think they werent able to make windows dynamic or something

The one map I'm kind of sad they scrapped was the Fast Food one (the soundtrack on the map was an absolute banger)

[ionic gale]

Unless we get bigger maps, Snipers won’t get added

[night pasture]

I think the soundtrack for that level will be in the ost the fast food legacy

[leaden latch]

Overwatch on SWAT 4 was cool, but if they were to add it, it should be a bit more dynamic than just a static scope. I feel like maps like the Voll house and Brisa Cove would benefit from a sniper map

Maps with a lot of city facing windows, realistically you could get a sniper to view the rooms

[ionic gale]

Yeah

[gleaming fable]

i dont care much for snipers. what i want to see is more battle rifles.

void pls release a proper M14. thx.

[ionic gale]

Whut about coop?

[night pasture]

I personally just want a DLC with maps that have sniper support just in those maps and add it to the SDK to allow modders to truly explore it.

[peak sapphire]

Coop achievements 🙏

[leaden latch]

I think they could've leaned into the horror aspect a bit more (not that the themes arent horrifying) but like, nothing hits like fairfax did

[ionic gale]

For the sniper concept, how would it fare well in coop?

[ionic gale]

My first time playing Fairfax?

[gleaming fable]

testing if the game has friendly fire is a coop achievement.

[ionic gale]

I will be over exaggerating my feeling for comedic affect

[leaden latch]

Only 1 enemy, no surprise gunfights, just clearing a house that is filled with environmental horror

[ionic gale]

The basement area made me soil myself and I’m not ashamed to admit it (jk)

I bought SWAT 4 on GOG pretty recently

Got the elite force mod and had a good time

[ionic gale]

I like how the AI actually value their lives by surrendering to the 5 law enforcement officers pointing M4’s at them

Ofc there will be gun fights but idk I feel like I’m actually arresting ppl in SWAT 4 aside from this game where I have to put down everyone with a gun bc they are very aggressive

Ik it’s a 2005 game and it can’t be compared to a 2020’ esqe
game but it still holds up like almost 20 years after release

[gleaming fable]

[ionic gale]

Reynolds, Jackson, Girard and Fields are gonna be my best men at my wedding

[rose wadi]

Honestly, I play RoN non-lethal almost exclusively because gunning everyone down feels weird

[peak sapphire]

This^

I like the satisfaction of seeing the S

[ionic gale]

I used the modded Tac 7000 on greased palms

The only time I had fun on that map

I was spraying everything down with CS

Shooting spicy balls at anyone armed was fun

In full auto with a somewhat bottomless magazine

Yall remember the RussianBadger’s vid on the old Alpha PVP mode?

Idk if he will play this game again due to how different the game is nowa

[peak sapphire]

Seems like a fun game to play especially with his friends

[ionic gale]

It was a clone of R6 to an somewhat actual police simulator

Yee, when the PVP mode eventually comes back I wonder if he will cover it again

[opaque moth]

DLC releases TOMORROW 😍

[ionic gale]

Idk if he will cover the current game as is