👮ron-discussion

[jolly verge]

slug deal 250 up to 25m

[noble pasture]

It does?

[jolly verge]

yeap, to torso

[uncut garden]

So that may explain why sometimes I instantly down someone with 357 and sometimes they just tank the 1st one

[vivid crescent]

Yeah Helmets should matter for that

There are cases IRL of people surviving rifle headshots but obviously it's a super rare lucky situation

And anyone actually hit in the head without a helmet should probably get incap at least usually

[uncut garden]

Actually It's not like we have any enemies with actual combat helmet in the game currently isn't it ?

Except that dude with a welding mask

[vivid crescent]

From what I've seen (new to this game somewhat) it does seem like the single player "storyline" isn't complete so I presume we're going to get that in DLC

[uncut garden]

Fully geared enemies used to be a thing tho

[vivid crescent]

After all, MLO haven't appeared yet

[jolly verge]

suspects on data center do have helmets equiped in their loadout, but they not working

[vivid crescent]

SWAT 4 had you facing heavily armored suspects in the hospital level

The totally-not-NK Assassins

As well as the Research Center

Ironically partially what makes the expansion's finale not as hard is I think most of the mafia guy aren't wearing armor.

[uncut garden]

I doubt that Helmet would actually stop any rifle rounds tbh
Even The Russian Titanium helmet gets penetrated through by rifle round

[noble pasture]

NK can't afford assassins

[vivid crescent]

If I recall they can stop regular rifles but only if fired at extreme distances and luck

And obviously this is one shot and it's already considered a miracle

That said RON already sorta uses the opposite of most tactical shooters for armor. (assuming "best case" scenario rather than worst.)

So maybe having helmets at least stop pistol rounds once or twice would be nice

Obviously still dying faster than if aiming for the vest.

[jolly verge]

this helmet in game have level 3 armor, so maximum what it's would stop is 5.56 JHP if it's was working right now

[noble pasture]

Tehnically, FMJ 9mm would mess up a helmet

[vivid crescent]

Yeah but RON also depicts vests as consistently stopping rifle rounds somewhat

[noble pasture]

Like getting hit on the head with a bat

[vivid crescent]

so like I said it's going for a bit of a "Best case" situation.

You at least take longer to drop than Rainbow Six/SWAT

So I think enemy helmets shouldn't be super effective but at least consistently stop one-taps

with the second shot almost certainly finishing them off

[winged shuttle]

I know it's something odd but anyone else kinda wish they gave the MP5s a aimpoint comp m2 or is it just me

[vivid crescent]

With Battle Rifles/Snipers (if they get added) still having one-shot capability

[uncut garden]

M14 or G3 would be nice

[vivid crescent]

through the helmet

[vivid crescent]

We literally have an M14 in the police station

[uncut garden]

Me Copium for AK102 and AK103 to be readded

[vivid crescent]

Let me use it pls

Also a SWAT guy had an MPL in an early trailer and I want it

[winged shuttle]

and they had it in trailers

even if my memory serves me correct the old carriers of the vine the suspects had M14s or M1As

[vivid crescent]

Yeah they did

They were MLO (RIP)

[uncut garden]

So many cool guns from suspects
And they're about to give us 2 pistols and another AR-15 platform for whatever reasons

[vivid crescent]

We already have a few "odd" guns so I hope they make all suspect guns available sometime

They should definitely be usable for MLO in PVP when it comes back

Eventally, I'm not expecting it anytime soon

[winged shuttle]

and the mk17 that's just there on the gun wall

[vivid crescent]

and the Calico

[winged shuttle]

there's also a Walther P99 that i wish i could use

[uncut garden]

I also want that AR-15 from Ides of March Suspect

M249 too

[winged shuttle]

and i want the sight that's on their AR-15s

[uncut garden]

How about letting us use Flash light and Laser at da same time

[winged shuttle]

that would be nice

[crude prism]

visually yeah, but suspects have never had functional helmets in any version of the game

[vivid crescent]

So uh

wtf do I do if a Ineed to get in a room with one door

and it's booby trapped

I can't just explode it from a distance because there's a hostage next to it

It's the Music Producer guy in the Veteran sniper mission

[stone bay]

peek the door, cut the wires

[vivid crescent]

Doesn't trying to peek a door set it off

[stone bay]

No, only if you try and open it all the way

[vivid crescent]

NGL I feel they should have tutorialized booby traps

[stone bay]

💯

[vivid crescent]

I thouhgt you had to go around them

Still better than SWAT Target Liberty's door traps

They're only in one mission but the only way to get past them is to use a C2 Charge, you have 3 by default (one for each team member.) and there's 5 of them

The only "upside" is that a trap only does around a quarter of your health and health regenerates.

so you can technically tank them/order your team to open the door to tank them. (Your health does regenerate less and less like Mafia 2 though.)

[vivid crescent]

I wonder if they'll ever go full SWAT 2 and add a MLO campaign/ability to play as them

In a campaign/single mission mode

SWAT 2 in a move I am amazed didn't have controversy had a full-on terrorist campaign

[tacit gull]

Oh yeah that was unhinged, i saw it on youtube since i didn't actually play the game

[vivid crescent]

It's really funny since you literally get away scotfree at the end so it's not even that much of a "Crime doesn't pay" thing

[tacit gull]

It was actually ridiculously in depth for what seems like a side thing

[vivid crescent]

Yeah it's decently in-depth

The biggest issue with Terrorist mode is less anything on the player's end and more the fact SWAT AI is bad

AI Terrorists in the SWAT campaign can place traps (they even like to troll and place them behind doors) and throw grenades

AI SWAT know how to yell at you to surrender and shoot

You can literally buy gas masks to counter tear gas but I've never seen AI swat use it in my like 4 full runs of that mode

So it's kinda easy to deal with SWAT outside of their snipers by just camping

[tacit gull]

I was thinking of playing swat 2 just because of how niche it is, is there any other game like it?

[vivid crescent]

Not really

Doorkickers is kinda like it but it's lacks ROE

I know Doorkickers 2 made you Special Forces and that's kinda what the first one feels like more than a police sim

Like if an officer kills someone in SWAT 2, they take a mission off (2 if unjustified) as the shooting is investigated

It's honestly not too hard outside of a handful of specific missions as AI isn't too advanced/some gear is op (Tear Gas Launcher makes every mission until the AI all start wearing gas masks easy)

Still a shame no one copied it

Closest thing to isometric SWAT is SWAT Target Liberty for the PSP and that's an action-y SWAT 4 spin-off instead of a proper RTS sadly

[tacit gull]

I've seen that aswell, super strange

Basically SWAT 4 if it was stripped of most features and shoved into a mobile game

[mellow wagon]

Is the game crashing a lot of others too? me and my buddies are unable to join each other cause it keeps crashing when we start a match

[azure lily]

Fun fact:
I might loose my brain cells again because of valley of the dolls

[shy tulip]

Skillt issue

[shy tulip]

No, not really from reports I've seen. it depends what you guys are trying to do.

If you are playing modded maps, people who do not have the map will be kicked out loading in.

[mellow wagon]

What if we ticked the option of like, having mods but it doesn't affect others?

Do the modded maps still count?

[shy tulip]

They will still get kicked out when you try to play that map, as in everyone has readied up and loading into the bearcat

[mellow wagon]

But we're simply trying to play regular maps

[shy tulip]

Try everyone launching the game in safemode then playing

[mellow wagon]

Oh alright, will do

Thank you mate

[noble pasture]

Aparentely RoN lore is bonkers

D Platoon's old leader stopped a terrorist attack where suspects wanted to detonate a fucking nuke

A nuke

[shy tulip]

SWAT 3 reference moment

and people say RoN is unrealistic

[noble pasture]

Its a Swat 3 reference?

[shy tulip]

Yes

I haven't played it but apparently the last mission of SWAT 3 is disarming a literal nuclear weapon

[noble pasture]

Does that mean SWAT 4 shares universe with RoN?

[shy tulip]

only in non-legal fan theories

[noble pasture]

So RoN's D platoon in 2024 is basically next gen officers for Swat 3's Squad?

A good 19 years have gone by

Only Judge would be old enough to remember the events of Swat 3

[vivid crescent]

Where motorcycle helmets

[vivid crescent]

At least no mtx

So still fun

[noble pasture]

Then what does "Swat '99" refer to?

Swat gear from 1999?

[vivid crescent]

Swat in the year 1999

Presumably

[noble pasture]

Also didnt a mass shooting put Swat on the map?

Back in the 50's or 60's

[shy tulip]

You're thinking of the Hollywood bank shooting

where the guys were kitted up mfs

[noble pasture]

No, it was a veteran who went ham with a garand

[shy tulip]

hmmm

Not sure

we've had a few instances of something like that

[noble pasture]

Shot from a tower at the public

Swat being new showed up in surplus military gear

Didnt even have their own uniform

Found it

1966 Austin Shooting

[gaunt gale]

It's a very, very good callback

[vivid crescent]

Can we get our motorcycle sci-fi hud helmets and double barreled M4A1s now

[shy tulip]

I remember the name Austin shooting but not the specifics

[vivid crescent]

from SWAT 3

[shy tulip]

I don't think SWAT really took off in mass use though until the Hollywood shooting

[noble pasture]

Hmm you are right

Swat was founded in 1967, so they didnt exist in 1966

[gaunt gale]

Oh my god no

Please no full auto gilboas

[noble pasture]

Fully semi automatic double barrel M4A1

[vivid crescent]

Sadly the second barrel doesn't shoot bullets

It's a weird futuristic press of a button conversion to beanbag rounds

Also weird because it's the only "advanced" weapon in SWAT 3

The other is your Helmet, the reason it's this weird fighter pilot/motorcycle thing is apparently it's got your headsup display inside it

[noble pasture]

Future!

screams at chrome plated wall

[vivid crescent]

But yeah I find it funny how SWAT 3 is technically futuristic but incredibly barely

Outside of the nuclear disarmament plot

I still find it really funny how in the finale

||You can potentially get a medal for shooting the sec of defense since he went rogue to steal the terrorists nuke so America would be the only nuclear superpower||

[stone bay]

Idk if there is a better channel to ask this but if there is pls tell me.
I haven't beaten a lot of maps on singleplayer, so would I have to beat them to be able to play those maps on multiplayer?

[noble pasture]

Multiplayer has all the maps

[stone bay]

Alright ty

[vivid crescent]

I hope we get a SWAT 4 like custom mode soon

[noble pasture]

But certain achievements demand you play single player

[vivid crescent]

I wanna play Sullivan's Slope with more than 3 bad guys

[stone bay]

Well that sucks

Rip getting all achievements easy ig lol

[noble pasture]

Took me 2 days and half to beat the campaign

Deathless

[stone bay]

If I actually played the game I'd probably be a lot further than I am, but instead I just spend my time in the gun range messing around

[noble pasture]

Hardest achievement might be beating all maps on S rank

[stone bay]

I thought it would be the ironman one. I've S ranked a few maps pretty easily so far

[noble pasture]

I did the ironman one

Basically you want to clear everything as safe as possible

If you or a team mate dies you can alt f4

It nulifies the mission

[stone bay]

Oh well that makes it a lot easier

I forgot that people are always gonna find the easiest way to do it

lol

[noble pasture]

Also if officers get stressed, give them pepper ball guns and send them to gas station

[shy tulip]

Talk about criminal rehab

[stone bay]

Can't you just put them in therapy?

[noble pasture]

Easy S rank

[noble pasture]

Too slow

[stone bay]

Idk how therapy works, I still haven't tried commander

[noble pasture]

Basically if an officer is stressed or in a crisis, you can send up to 3 to therapy

At worst it will take 3 missions to heal a crisis Officer

[stone bay]

I thought it was on a timer, not how many missions you do

[noble pasture]

But it takes 2 Gas S ranks to heal a Crisis Officer

Its on missions

[stone bay]

Gas station is fun to play through imo so I have no problem playing it hundreds of times

[noble pasture]

If you get it down 4 minutes

[stone bay]

It usually takes me like 10...

I'm just bad ._.

[shy tulip]

Don't think of it like that, consider yourself better than players that just kill everything and then wonder why their team quits and they can't pass missions

[stone bay]

Wait some people kill everything? Including civies?

[shy tulip]

yes

[stone bay]

Damn

[shy tulip]

@prime wing do you have the gif

I know I have it but its deep into tenor

[stone bay]

Do a lot of people do that?

[noble pasture]

https://tenor.com/view/ready-or-not-ron-curious-can-rolling-gif-17721407850655272027

[stone bay]

Can

[noble pasture]

Can

[plush knoll]

Why

[prime wing]

need to pin it somewhere

[noble pasture]

Can swat ai flip on nvg?

[shy tulip]

Yes, when you do

Same applies to flashlight/laser

[dreamy garden]

are they releasing the dlc soon

[viral bone]

did anyone get Home Invasion achievement unlocked recently

[dreamy garden]

ok yeah I was just going to mention this

[tight dock]

i was just going to ask

[dreamy garden]

someone made a big oopsie

[tight dock]

the one has 3 houses on it so probably 3 new missions

[viral bone]

yaay update soon

we all stayin' awake for this glorious moment

except Amerikans, they are up 😄

[magic sedge]

lol yeah thats what i just posted in media

[viral bone]

So could we hope for an update tonight/today

[tardy spade]

how can i get more FPS but still have my game looking good ?

[viral bone]

better hardware ?

[magic sedge]

yeah lol

if there are anything itd increase fps by like

two

[dreamy garden]

oh most definitely not

[dreamy garden]

lossless scaling? Idk if that was a fake thing or if it really works

[whole garnet]

Must.Season.The.Suspect, pepper spray GO

[native rune]

Ummm, can someone please explain to me why I just got achievements for passing the home invasion dlc levels?

[shy tulip]

It is a known issue

[native rune]

Cool, now I definitely don’t have to buy it

[shy tulip]

There's still I think like 6 more that you still don't have unlocked

[gaunt gale]

[native rune]

Cool, now no one will get the wrong idea and think I bought it

[gaunt gale]

So just as a confirmation:
For anyone that has gotten both the 'After the Storm' and 'From home to home' achievements, it's a known issues and they're going to be removed and re-applied properly and won't unlock until you fufill the conditions to unlock them properly.

[stable kernel]

My achievements

[native rune]

It’s actually called from House to home

[prime wing]

https://tenor.com/view/when-your-friend-is-allergic-to-peppers-gif-6575201917101460579

[gaunt gale]

https://tenor.com/view/case-caseoh-your-banned-you'e-banned-get-out-gif-7698576230662898937

[timid quest]

Are you Ready, or Not, Void?

[magic sedge]

aLright fine. Bullpup M4

[vale mason]

Anyone else just get all the achievements for the unreleased dlc?

[shy tulip]

read the pins in the general chat

[vale mason]

No

[shy tulip]

Yes

[prime wing]

fair

[shrewd portal]

Is there a way to turn on the helmet flashlight?

[shy tulip]

Don't think so

pretty confident no

[balmy shale]

will the new DLC be free or do I have to buy it?

[silk junco]

only the host has to own it for people to play it but yes it will cost money

[shy tulip]

It will be free for Supporter edition owners, everyone else will have to buy it

[balmy shale]

how much?

[shy tulip]

The price has not been announced yet

[silk junco]

nobody knows

[fallen plume]

Why all the fuss about the release date? I meanis odd to add it to a steam page while not announcing a release date or price

[prime wing]

probably the best case scenario as they cannot/have failed to adhere public roadmaps. Seems to work best when dates are kept internally

[shy tulip]

Basically better to tease and get hype built up through showing off some stuff than set a deadline for yourself if you know you can't 100% keep it

[fallen plume]

that's fair still wonder why they keep the price a secret. I don't mind I got the supporters edition, but still...

[shy tulip]

Idk, usually the kind of thing you announce towards the release day comin up

[fallen plume]

Interesting

[prime wing]

its not gonna be more than 25 dollars. It cant and shouldnt be

thats for sure

15 max

best case scenario, 10 dollar dlc

[fallen plume]

A good price point for sure

[stone bay]

I'm so used to all games being overpriced, I'm expecting $30ish even if its unlikely

[prime wing]

there would be backlash

unfortunately

also the math wouldnt make sense

[fallen plume]

I mean the game is $49 I don't think they put that price for a DLC with 3 missions.
Maybe another DLC would be on that price point

This game has a long road ahead

[stone bay]

Let's hope they don't start making every single update a dlc

[fallen plume]

Hope so haha

[prime wing]

the update improvements and changes are still free for all maps. The new maps and cosmetics are the things behind the paywall

[fallen plume]

Although if the content are missions it's their right to put behind a paywall

[stone bay]

New missions 100% those belong in dlcs

[prime wing]

if new features are not available to everyone, like tarkov did, it would suck

[shy tulip]

Edge moment

[prime wing]

halligan bar behind dlc

[hollow citrus]

Damn, that dlc is actually soon now isn't it

Still no info what's that 4th weapon that's not really a weapon gonna be

[shy tulip]

Zack has confirmed there won't be a 4th weapon. The intention was for the pistol kit to let you take it off and use just the* pistol, but it didn't end up happenin

[hollow citrus]

Ah dayumn, well that's unlucky

[prime wing]

ah yes zack, the animation dev

[hollow citrus]

I hope new animations, gas improvements and ai improvements are still in the deal. Let's see what Ali cooked that time

[chrome grove]

where the fuck is this last fuckkkkkkking crackhead

search and secure doesnt work

i looked through every floor of every building

had the ai clear it too
i looked thru the tunnels twice

[hollow citrus]

Last time I played he was hiding under the bed

[chrome grove]

the master bedroom?

[hollow citrus]

Wish AI would do that more ngl

[chrome grove]

im missing both a malevolent and a benevolent crackhead

i already found one under the bed

why cant the evil crackhead be evil

[hollow citrus]

yea could be any bed and also could be in closets

[chrome grove]

also is search and secure supposed to have my teammates stand still with RESTRAIN on their action viewer thing

instead of searchnig and securing

[hollow citrus]

Don't think so, could be bugged. Sometimes you need to come up and restrain yourself so AI will move on

[chrome grove]

he wasnt looking at a suspect tho

plus it happens multiple missions on multiple maps with them standing staring at the abyss

[hollow citrus]

Yeah I know that haha, PTSD hits hard.

[chrome grove]

yea
im probably gonna try another run tomorro

[dreamy garden]

its possible to get 3 other ones

void doesnt care enough to fix their game anyways

[frail pier]

I read this thinking the DLC dropped, rushed to steam page and seen it still says coming soon....

I'm gonna fucking riot

[gaunt gale]

[frail pier]

Meldonin... Is this a tarkov refrence or just mispell?

if IRL should be meldonium

[gaunt gale]

For what now?

[frail pier]

Achievements

It's called "Meldonin: Complete all objectives on dorms in 2 minutes"

[gaunt gale]

I think it may be, to be honest

[prime wing]

tarkov reference....

https://tenor.com/view/brother-ew-ew-what-is-that-whats-that-brother-gif-14318384540422820315

[undone rampart]

hoy folks.
Quick question: Were the superman suspects fixed since last year? Like the ones immune to flashbangs in confined spaces and accurately tracking the player through walls and shooting the player?

[twin python]

yes

[gleaming fable]

kinda fixed yeah.

[umbral oar]

well they still kinda track but their bullets do absolutely no damage through walls

[shrewd portal]

Does anybody know any workarounds/mods for AI using the CS gas launchers, they seem to only be able to launch once

[radiant kite]

Why can a bunch of drug addicts on the gas station shoot thru the front door at me but I can’t shoot them either AP full auto idk if it’s a bug or apart of the game

[jolly verge]

it's using bulletproof glass, the only thing you can pen is metal frames

[radiant kite]

Yea but they shouldn’t be able to shoot me them😭

[jolly verge]

they deal only about 0.01 damage from wallbanging after nerf anyway

[drifting sand]

The issue is the one sided detection, preternatural accuracy and reflexes, and ESP tracking.

The damage they do is entirely secondary.

[azure lily]

Man

I loose brain cells playing valley of the dolls. Like fr it's like the suspects teleport

[sharp fox]

famous last words "i aint gonna die here"

[covert aurora]

proceeds to get headshotted

[noble pasture]

Devs: We made good swat AI
Also Swat Ai: clears an angle with his back

What the fuck is going on in SWAT AI code?

A guy cleared an angle on port alone and got full auto'ed in the back

Cause he walked backwards

What the fuck is this?

[azure lily]

Time to loose some brain cells guys

[frail pier]

Your brain cells were tight before?

[azure lily]

No I keep losing them on valley of the dolls

You can get shot at from the air.

[frail pier]

Yeah with all this pollution even the air is dangerous.

[azure lily]

Mhm.

Wait

Fuck I forgot how to change units

[frail pier]

Like Celsius to Fahrenheit?

[azure lily]

No

Members of the swat team.

[frail pier]

Like change your guys loadout?

[azure lily]

Change them with another guy

[frail pier]

Ohhh commander shit

Should be from the tablet

[azure lily]

YES

Idk I just clicked a bunch of buttons and I changed them

[frail pier]

Open the tablet full screen and if you have any officers available you can swap them out.

[azure lily]

Thx. Sometimes when I shoot a suspect they surrender for some reason. And it's a lethal weapon

Is it a bug or sm?

[frail pier]

Nah they're valuing their life and roleplay correctly

Don't get used to it though. Doesn't happen too often.

[noble pasture]

the dlc is coming

[plush knoll]

True

[noble pasture]

they have added dlc achievements

[frail pier]

[noble pasture]

no, its actually coming soon, they have snuck in the achievements for it

[frail pier]

Yes I noticed last night

Ez

It probably only has a few suspects.

[noble pasture]

Thats what we thought of Streamer too

[frail pier]

Same deal 54 seconds lel

[noble pasture]

I think at the very least 10 suspects

[frail pier]

Ez

[covert aurora]

[noble pasture]

If it has traps speedruners are fucked

Gotta pray to rnjesus

[frail pier]

That or breach shotgun a door hoping no civs are there. But if it's a suspect means don't gotta waste a bullet.

I doubt that map will have traps.

[covert aurora]

you may never know

always keep your head on a swivel

[frail pier]

It'll just be like a Brisa cove run

The games honestly really simple to run. There's not much too it and not much tech. You have animation cancelling and that's it really until someone finds something wack to use.

[covert aurora]

new ron player: ok i now have to do this brisa cove level lets go!
loads in
new player: ok here we go! opens first door into hallway explodes immidately

then again....

you kinda learn that leason from sullivans slope

[frail pier]

Everytime I play with someone I always stay in the back. Mfers out here full swinging on that map still

[plush knoll]

Playing with new members and forgetting to tell them about traps 😦

[frail pier]

NGL done that so many times

[plush knoll]

I had two friends hitting separate doors on Brisa… both trapped both didn’t check…

[frail pier]

It's like hazing for that level. You gotta have it happen at least once.

[covert aurora]

sooo me and another friend brought another friend into sullivans slope and brisa cove.... didn't tell him about traps

our response when he exploded: Welcome to ready or not. we were all laughing our asses off

[plush knoll]

Honestly- I still check doors on maps that I know don’t have traps.

[covert aurora]

same

[plush knoll]

Waste of time but can’t break the habit lol

[covert aurora]

you learn your lesson is the point

[plush knoll]

My friend and I normally run duo, we like to challenge (or punish) ourselves by running some crap smg (shot placement matters) other times it’s shotgun and SA58 if we don’t want survivors lol.

[covert aurora]

i play with a few friends, and we do all the levels in order, and i will pretend i am a newbie cop/underfunded PD so like for gas station i would run a MP5, some cheap pistol with like two mags of JHP primary and 1 mag of pistol JHP with a stabvest and no plates.

[plush knoll]

That’s punishment aha !

[covert aurora]

and as we advance through maps i get "access" to "better gear"

[plush knoll]

We tried that on Clemente hotel and got unalived.

[covert aurora]

oof

its fun i will be honest, i will even RP it out in discord

[plush knoll]

Most of those suspects use mcx lvar tho

[covert aurora]

yeah

I call myself "the newbie S.T.A.R.S officer" (cause i run a S.T.A.R.S uniform mod)

[plush knoll]

Sometimes I feel like John wick. Sometimes I’m his dog.

[covert aurora]

lol

[plush knoll]

I have an OD green HRT mod but it doesn’t work need to fix that but my go to is FISA uniform. My other friends look like they got their kit from the good will.

[vivid crescent]

Rebecca Chambers is that u?

[plush knoll]

Their uniforms consist of
Od green helmet
Tan carrier
Black pants
Multicam shirt

[azure lily]

I'm the happiest man alive. I beat valley of the dolls B ranked.

[covert aurora]

HA! i'm not chemist/team medic

[noble pasture]

is Hanged man bugged?

I beat Hoken with only a taser

[jolly verge]

nope, what else you used?

you can beat it without taser btw

and flashbangs

[noble pasture]

I couldn't have used it anything else, had only taser ammo

hmm, did some arrests cause the Swat AI refused to do so

[jolly verge]

that not the case, you can arrest, did you use multitool or something similar?

[noble pasture]

are arrests allowed?

[jolly verge]

yes

[noble pasture]

nope, I tell AI to shotgun and clear

[jolly verge]

you can't shotgun doors

[noble pasture]

the AI can?

[jolly verge]

only kicks allowed

[noble pasture]

what?

[jolly verge]

even for ai swat

[noble pasture]

why?

[jolly verge]

well, idk

[noble pasture]

can Swat AI use guns?

[jolly verge]

that how it's works, you dont even need taser and flashbang to get it

[jolly verge]

yeap

[noble pasture]

can I use guns?

[jolly verge]

you cant

[noble pasture]

what about AI using the wand?

[jolly verge]

nothing from tactical is allowed

you can use shield on your back

but that it

[rotund patrol]

You can command bots to use anything i guess?

[noble pasture]

can AI use a shield?

[jolly verge]

im not sure about it, if you use shield in hand you wont get it

only on your back

[noble pasture]

god fucking damn it, why hide those requirements?

[rotund patrol]

In my run I just try not to switch to other tools. only taser

[jolly verge]

you can switch them, just dont use them

[noble pasture]

even using my Ironman run squad without a shield might be impossible to clear this without everyone being injured

[covert aurora]

taser taser taser!

[slim fern]

George M

[jolly verge]

if you still have negotiators it's really easy run

[noble pasture]

did a port Hoken run and only got injured by last suspect

almost no damage taken

[covert aurora]

well done!

[noble pasture]

aparentely not, achievement told me to go fuck myself

[jolly verge]

what achievement? The hermit?

[noble pasture]

the Hanged Man

[jolly verge]

ah

[noble pasture]

I did hermit 3 days ago

I am using the Ironman run squad as they got 2 trained Negotiators ready

[jolly verge]

veteran is also good on this map

tighter spread cone for swat ai on long distance

[noble pasture]

tired of failing the run twice, gave Swat AI SA-58

all brakes are off

[jolly verge]

giving them shotguns with buckshot also good idea

[noble pasture]

Why shotguns?

[jolly verge]

Buckshot ammo is really good on any distance, for up to 25m you need hit only 4 pellets and for 151m - 5 pellets to incap suspect with regular 320 health pool + high dismember chance even with 1 pellet

[covert thicket]

just got a achievment randomly

[jolly verge]

from dlc?

[covert thicket]

yes completing all levels with S

[vivid crescent]

Yeah known bug

they're working on it.

[covert thicket]

ah thanks

i was about to sleep and then suddenly blub and i woke up and now im awake

[noble pasture]

Give it to 1 AI?

[jolly verge]

to all of them

[noble pasture]

4 shotguns!?

[jolly verge]

yeah, why not

[frail pier]

Give em fals

Everything dies. Just kite them around the level till you're done... ez

[earnest phoenix]

has there been no update since march

[noble pasture]

since 28th of February yes

we expect one soon since achievements been added last night

[shy tulip]

The last update was a bug fix in march

[noble pasture]

beat Hanged Man @jolly verge

[jolly verge]

cool

[noble pasture]

took me only 4 attempts

Some dlc achievements are weird

"Arrest all civilians without neutralizing a suspect"

[frail quartz]

"Arrest all civilians without neutralizing a suspect" My brother in christ, that is literally just S rank

[noble pasture]

"Beat a mission using only pistols, no grenades, no launchers"

[frail pier]

That's for the new map isn't it?

Oh I thought it was for lawmaker

[noble pasture]

For arrests one? Yeah its lawmaker

[frail pier]

Gotcha yeh

[noble pasture]

I like the name, "Beat Cop" for pistols only challenge

Probably cant bring bots

Or can you?

[frail pier]

Wouldn't it not work because arresting would be counted as neutralizing? Idk seems like a pointless way to word doing an S run.

[noble pasture]

No, neutralized means you kill or incap

Arrested has different meaning

[frail pier]

Yeah no still seems like a weird way to word an S run.

[noble pasture]

Or you can lethal run but run into the civies first

[frail pier]

Again if that's the case they could've just said "Achieve S Rank on lawmaker" instead of wording it that way.

We'll see when the dlc drops. Just kinda weird to word it that way.

[noble pasture]

We do have S rank achievement separately for dlc maps

[tawdry lagoon]

steam depot got updated like 15 mins ago

[noble pasture]

Its coming

[frail pier]

WHAT DID IT SAY

BRB checking

Because before that it was updated 4 hours ago and that was like 6 hours ago I checked.

[tawdry lagoon]

Nightly 3

[frail pier]

Idk what that branch is

The one I seen was staging2 that was changed.

[tawdry lagoon]

yeah this is nightly branch

hopefully this means update in the next 24h

[frail pier]

Yeah what's that

[noble pasture]

Void Interactive! Release the update and my life is yours!

[tawdry lagoon]

I got no idea, staging is kinda self explanatory, maybe nightly is like a pre release checkup to see if everything is okay the night before going live?

[noble pasture]

Please make the dlc cheap

10 USD is acceptable

[frail pier]

30 year mortgage is cheap wdym

[rugged fern]

I NEED TO SHOOT BAD GUYS PLEASE RELEASE THE UPDATE ILL GIVE U HEAD

[covert aurora]

whoa!

[noble pasture]

Dew it

[frail pier]

The second they release the DLC is when I quit posting stupid shit here and you'll probably never hear from me till they tease another DLC

[tawdry lagoon]

https://tenor.com/view/capybara-let-him-cook-gif-11999534059191155013

[covert aurora]

drags Hustler to the sepulchre

[tawdry lagoon]

epic embed fail

[rugged fern]

PLEASE DUDE LET ME SHOOT BAD GUYS ILL GIVE YOU MY PROTEIN BAR WINK WINK

[tawdry lagoon]

bro we're getting peltors and balaclavas

gonna play tactical barbie

[frail pier]

I'm about to go play blues clues until this shit drops.

[covert aurora]

not tactical enough.... wheres my tactical banana or tactical rock?

[tawdry lagoon]

tactical socks!

[covert aurora]

😮

[tawdry lagoon]

GBRS Group double layered gore tex socks produced in America, starting from 49$ per pair

[prime wing]

A yes. Company that fires employees due to allegedly stealing just for the product to be delivered hours later

[tawdry lagoon]

I've heard someone call them Goobers Group

bunch of shills :3

[prime wing]

I would have tried waiting a couple of hours

Before involving the police on something was still unclear

[nova gust]

need ddm4 pdw

[covert aurora]

it's coming this update

[nova gust]

i hope hte update comes soon

been running the bcm, but the ddm4 is more my style

[covert aurora]

fair enough

[nova gust]

also, flashlight or reg laser?

[frail pier]

Laser.

[covert aurora]

i run flash personally

[nova gust]

ive been using both, tho i always run nvgs

[tawdry lagoon]

that involves being rational

you're setting the bar too high

[frail pier]

I bet they didn't even offer him his job back.

Not that he should go back but still

[nova gust]

do you think theyll update the 4x and 12x scopes to be adjustable to 1x?

[tawdry lagoon]

Uhh they probably sued him or something

[frail pier]

Wtf?

[tawdry lagoon]

Idk, seems like the kinda move they'd make

[frail pier]

I heard about this but didn't look too far into it.

[covert aurora]

very doubtful unfortuently

[nova gust]

oof, i was kinda liking running the 4x for longer engagements, but need that 1x for close range fights

[prime wing]

Apparently there was some miscommunication. I have to read through it again, but jumping to conclusions that quickly is insane

[frail pier]

Yeah no definitely still fucked on their part.

[tawdry lagoon]

"Shipping manager accidentally dropped off a BCM lower with FedEx instead of UPS. Two weeks later, they have him arrested for theft, only for FedEx to return the package that very same day. They fire him anyway."

apparently the final reason is the weed pen :D

[frail pier]

Okay last part checks out but the steps to find that out are just still fucked. They got lucky there on their behalf ngl but doesn't excuse the jumping to conclusions.

[noble pasture]

Did Brisa Cove S rank first try

They stood no chance

Brisa Cove is the mission where they try to assassinate a governor

[limber steppe]

senator fremont when his life is threatened for the 3413466425th time this week

[noble pasture]

Any tip to do Greased Palms S rank?

[shy tulip]

Take the outside and side areas first before you try to tackle the main warehouse

if you're lucky jack will be outside and you won't have to worry about him getting kill by mistake

[noble pasture]

On Sinous Trail I got killed cause my SWAT AI turned into babies and the enemy into the soviets at stalingrad

With a gas nade thrown

[buoyant fern]

I shot a suspect on The Spider with a single shot to the face and the bullet went through a wall and killed a homeless person. My fellow SWAT Team members then proceed to mag dump me in unison. Lmao 🤣

[noble pasture]

literally last fucking suspect just killed me

[chrome grove]

this crackhead just took a canister of cs gas, 25 pepperballs and being bashed in the head and kept shooting

[buoyant fern]

Model T800 Crackhead

[shy tulip]

No begging for the game

[weary furnace]

DLC releases on July 23rd

[winged shuttle]

Average LS local experience

[celest stone]

Now lets watch the chat implode

[shy tulip]

OH NO

he didn't even give us a heads up

[celest stone]

hahaha

[winter nymph]

[chrome grove]

goated

[noble pasture]

god fucking damn it

[earnest furnace]

💰

[noble pasture]

its during my trip away

cant play the dlc until end of the month

[plucky moth]

so the dlc will be just cosmetics only yes?

[rustic robin]

Oh

Oops it dropped

[plucky moth]

just the page still need to wait around one more week

[rustic robin]

I hope all these new guns are free

[winged shuttle]

nope, 3 maps and i think we might be getting new gear

[plucky moth]

guns are free

[acoustic ridge]

10 bucks is pretty cheap, atleast it isnt like 40 dollars

[proven blade]

how many maps

[mystic edge]

Query:
Will the DLC maps be able to be hosted in MP by the host, or does everyone have to own the DLC
Does anyone know yet

[outer fulcrum]

long with the DLC release, we're rolling out a game patch, and adding three new weapons to the base game at no additional cost

from vid description

[plucky moth]

so map + cosmestic pack on this one, got it

[night pasture]

The host needs it

[mystic edge]

obviously the host needs it

[rustic robin]

10 bucks aint bad

[plucky moth]

ofc it is

[rustic robin]

Void boutta have a pay day on june 23rd

[noble pasture]

I think we pay only for the maps

the guns are free

[proven sail]

home invasion? payday counterfeit heist reference

[night pasture]

im slow... but just the host needs it and people that haven't bought it can still play if that makes good sense....

[rotund grove]

Should be a free update to the stagnant game lol

[mystic edge]

yep

[noble pasture]

everything is free but the maps

[tender rapids]

YOU.

[noble pasture]

you pay 3.33 per map

[night pasture]

YOU

[proven sail]

everything is free except for the game

[tender rapids]

I know you.

[outer fulcrum]

10 bucks seems aight

for it being the base price

[night pasture]

uh huh pal

[noble pasture]

can devs confirm that we will be able to use bots for the specific challenges?

like beating a map using pistols only

[rustic robin]

Im excited for the new guns most

[noble pasture]

its 2 pistols and a SBR

[rustic robin]

We will see when the patch notes drop

Hopefully suspect AI gets tweaked too

[noble pasture]

1 of the pistols is odd

[shy tulip]

I assume it applies the same to the other achievements, it applies to you and only you

Cause you can't tell them to swap to pistols only

[celest plinth]

HOME INVASION LETS FUCKING GOOOO

[noble pasture]

I am most excited about the Balaclavas coming back to swat

[bright tangle]

I am not buying yo dumbass dlc fix your game

[stone bay]

$10 DLC LETS FUCKING GOOOO!

[rapid basin]

Chris Kyle sniping looters mission?

[rustic robin]

Is there a way to bench the AI for a match? I wanna do a map solo

[queen cloud]

They probably will have a hotfix coming with the DLC

[winged shuttle]

The Flux MP17 or the FN 509

[elder void]

Ooooh shiit! I have SOMETHING to look forward to in My Life now!!!

[noble pasture]

the one with a mag in front of the trigger

[rustic robin]

Fr

[rotund grove]

good to see some DIvison 2 enemies looting places

[elder void]

My Life has Meaning again!!!!

[rapid basin]

weren’t you a mod here?

[near basin]

do you guys know when ron is going to go on sale next

[winged shuttle]

The MP17, probably might have an animation where that mag is actually used as the last mag but i have my doubts slightly there

[dry wigeon]

how to i get rid of MOD IO maps? ive unsubbed from them and they are still there

[noble pasture]

rush every room with assault rifles?

[delicate snow]

Imagine giving void more money 💀

[plain osprey]

Yuh

[stone bay]

Delete the mod.io subfolder within the paks folder.

[shy tulip]

#❓modding-faq-archive

[noble pasture]

I am excited to see the new maps

[willow jetty]

easy to imagine what transpired only moments ago

[mental fable]

Man these people can't stop whining over the 1.0 update

[frail quartz]

Yeah when are they gonna let me put pride flags on Swan, smh 😒

[spare pollen]

Not sure if this is posted anywhere, but for a group to play on the new maps, does everyone need the DLC or just the host? I know some games have it where you only need a host. IDK what method this game uses.

[noble pasture]

so update drops on 23rd and I come back on 26th, 3 days later

[frail quartz]

Just the host

[noble pasture]

just the host

[willow jetty]

It's a shame, the game is great underneath some of the surface issues. I've bought it for probably ten of my friends at this point, having a blast.

[burnt saddle]

9$ is a fair price

[hollow citrus]

ABOUT TIME YOU RELEASED THE DATE

[misty island]

10 euro for DLC? Did someone brought some sanity to VOID?

[hollow citrus]

i been waiting half of fucking year finally

[mental fable]

I just returned to RoN yesterday and started having a blast again

[hollow citrus]

jesus fucking christ, they finally cooked

[coral zinc]

Anyone aware of any supporter edition perks?

[paper glen]

So apart from this map is there anything else in the update? Like the unreal engine 5 conversion?

[misty island]

Yes. Skins and first DLC for free.

[burnt saddle]

I believe they wrote something on their website about it. Might be outdated.

[nova gust]

Cant wait to use the ddm4 pdw

[night pasture]

UE5 yes

[coral zinc]

Cools thanks

[spare pollen]

What about the weapons?

[nova gust]

We get the first dlc for free

[noble pasture]

Game trying not to explode when everyone wants UE5

[paper glen]

So its coming on the 23th? Wow that's quick

[night pasture]

Free

[spare pollen]

oh cool

[misty island]

Oh, and a shitty rifle too, I forgot. If you wantt to know more, DM me, I will send pictures.

[burnt saddle]

I thought it will be like 30 $

[misty island]

Same

[bitter remnant]

new dlc out, wheres my G3A3 thats on the wall in the loadout changing room next to the shooting range

[noble pasture]

I hope to whoever owns Void Interactive to have fixed performance issues with this update or I will be forced to play on low

[spare pollen]

I saw the post said free but IDK if it was "lore free" like they upgraded the armory for allthe police or the players lol

[balmy hill]

I hope they also fix the ai too

[misty island]

What about big fixes?

[rustic robin]

As a pistol only enjoyer I hope the new pistols are hype, I really wanted a staccato P but this would work too.

[noble pasture]

need to wait for the actual patch notes

[misty island]

I am waiting for bug fix announcement.

[wispy ember]

bro they finally used that ost from "no room for civility"

[misty island]

Hope the will fix the angle aim big with pistols.

[wispy ember]

not just a cut version

[short venture]

gaming

[grand pier]

Will an entire squad need to own the upcoming dlc for everyone to play it or just one person?

[feral sequoia]

I don't see a difference in the trailer at all

[night pasture]

just the host

[nova gust]

Just lobby host needs to own dlc to play the maps

[rustic robin]

Ya that is pretty annoying, I only noticed it a few weeks ago when I was using a laser whilst ADS'ing.

[grand pier]

Schweet, thank you

[frail quartz]

The DLC will come with free patch to the base game

[rustic robin]

The one guy with the DLC will be that one guy with the pack of gum in class

[bitter remnant]

ayo let me get a mint too

[feral sequoia]

I'm ready for the power trip kickers hosting dlc lobbies

[rustic robin]

REAL

[smoky junco]

Oh the dlc costs just 9,99. Thats fair

[rustic robin]

Thats a fair price

[night pasture]

it's mainly backend stuff i think

[bitter remnant]

how much in good ol british pounds

[lethal void]

9.99 too propably

[night pasture]

visuals prob weren't pushed too far because of wanting better fps and shit

[rustic robin]

Prolly 10 pound too, It's 10 in USD and Euro so probably some for Sterlings.

[random forge]

10 quid lad

[misty island]

And it is old af

[bitter remnant]

dammit

[random forge]

i checked dw

[bitter remnant]

normally if its in gbp they do like 8 or 9 quid if its a 10 dollar dlc

[rustic robin]

How longs it been around

[misty island]

I know, but I want to know, what bugs will be fixes and is te even worth it to wait.

[random forge]

well £9.99 so uno

[misty island]

More than a year, definitely. I will try to find an original bug report by MMMMM, because we discussed it.

[winged shuttle]

I was wondering about that so it's 9.99 nearly everywhere then

[silver palm]

Balaclavas in image previews? Is this the peak

Turns out they modded their own game

[bitter remnant]

lmfao that would be interesting

[misty island]

Nah, it is lost to time.

[native rune]

Void loves showing balaclavas when they’re not even in the game so

[mental fable]

It'll be added soon

[lethal void]

Not only you mate, I hope it will be optimilization fixes, cuz I'm tired with jumping FPS between 100 to 30 in 3 seconds without a reason

[boreal egret]

new bc since the DLC is ready they should just... release it

[rustic robin]

Finally

[bitter remnant]

WHERES THE FUN IN THAT!

[shy tulip]

The update will include the transition to UE5 which has better optimization, along with precaching

[chilly forge]

☠️☠️

[native rune]

Where have I heard that before

[rustic robin]

The more hype they generate the more $$$

[boreal egret]

uhhhhhhhhh, where is not the fun in that?!?!

[latent patrol]

Is this also including fixes and the new sound reflection from guns they demoed earlier?

[silver palm]

3 years and it might happen...

[native rune]

A free update is rolling out with the dlc but as far as fixes go we have no idea what might actually be fixed

[night pasture]

Yes

[frail quartz]

Probably

[delicate snow]

a fool and their money now parted

[stone bay]

So only paid things are gonna be maps, and the guns are free?

[night pasture]

Yes

[native rune]

As far as I’m aware yes

[frail quartz]

Alongside some bugfixes and base improvements, yes

[stone bay]

Thats amazing tbh

[frail quartz]

(Also they're finally adding a balaclava to the base game)

[native rune]

And you can still play the maps as long as you join a session where the host owns them

[silver palm]

Hold on keep your helmet on I don't wanna be disappointed

[frail quartz]

Kaminsky just confirmed in in the general chat though

[silver palm]

Wait what

[willow jetty]

ten dollars, how will I ever financially recover???

[frail quartz]

#💬general-discussion message

[covert aurora]

i can also confirm that calavas are a thing

[noble pasture]

my SWAT AI killed a suspect

[fringe vault]

Dev confirmed balaclavas are a thing yes

[raven cove]

hi, looking to get back into the game, does it have controller support yet or are there any good and recommended configs? i had my own but it was wiped 😞

[noble pasture]

cause that fucking idiot didnt surrender and little visibility

[rustic robin]

Wooooooooooooooo

[silver palm]

We're so back 🗣️ 🔥

[noble pasture]

how am I even supposed to S rank greased palms? Its impossible without 1000 attempts

[fringe vault]

what’s cool is that for the maps, only the host is required to have the dlc so if your friend has it you can play it for free according to the devs in general

[silver palm]

I'm gonna pay for the DLC anyway

[fringe vault]

If you have supporter it’s free alongside all other future dlcs

[noble pasture]

I need more tips for greased palms outher than to isolate the where house

[silver palm]

I'm not but I'll do it nonetheless

[slate bear]

where, house?

[willow jetty]

Beanbag shotty and wedges
Flashbangs
Riot shield
Take it very slow

[noble pasture]

What is the shield even for?

[frail quartz]

Try to shoot into the main conveyer room from the garage doors and command suspects to move towards you before going in and clearing it

[feral sequoia]

Why bother with the conversion if it has nothing to do with gameplay or visuals?

[night pasture]

Performance

[willow jetty]

Peeking corners with lean, remember that you can lean further while in stance

[uncut garden]

Is the DLC update coming with UE5 ?

[night pasture]

And modding and overall ease of use for the devs

[fringe vault]

equipping it on your AI and having them breach and go first is the Strat since you have a less likely chance of getting fucked

[frail quartz]

It's to improve preformance, loading times, and generally make development easier

[feral sequoia]

I'm hoping for the best but I'll be the judge of that since ue5 games have generally ran really bad for me, we shall see

[fringe vault]

devs said that the game will transition to UE5 yes in update and DLC

[noble pasture]

Well AI will use their pistols

[native rune]

Yes

[uncut garden]

Noice

[willow jetty]

You can't really use AI to S rank that map, you basically have to make them sit back and take point yourself every time

[rustic robin]

seems like this update will be the update that makes ready or not truly finished

[noble pasture]

Might give them the bean bag shotgun

Suspects on this map seem resistant to pepper guns

[frail quartz]

I feel like we still have a bit of ways to go, but I'm sure it'll be a big improvement

[willow jetty]

Good call, but careful giving it to more than 2 or 3 because they will put too many beanbags and kill a guy sometimes

pretty much use them to cover your rear while you shield peek corners

[noble pasture]

I got an idea, take shield but only to push dangerous angles

[civic otter]

Will we have the joy of the ai shooting us through walls and floors in the new dlc or has that actually been prioritised after years in this update?

[noble pasture]

Can crouch walk while spamming yells

[rustic robin]

Agreed. I hope an AI revamp is included with a hotfix or shortly after Home Invasion drops.

[willow jetty]

Making noise to bring them to you is also a great strategy

[noble pasture]

I got 2 negotiators

[uncut garden]

OMG NPC with lip sync

[vocal night]

you can see some wallbang shenanigans in the gameplay trailer seems to be the same

[frail quartz]

I remember when people were freaking out when they announced this, it's nice to see someone appreciate it for a change

[civic otter]

The ai revamp would not be a hotfix... A hotfix is reserved for emergency issues such as crashes.

The AI thing is an ongoing bug for years, a feature that is needed to be resolved to make the game not be crap

[placid cypress]

I mean it sucks ass but tbf it is realistic

[civic otter]

There is a balance between realism and fun... If we want full realism why not shoot yourself in the face and only get one game?

[shy tulip]

They are receiving a new hit detection system to make it harder for them to shoot through hard to see spots, but they (probably) will still continue to shoot you once they get a good lock and you hide behind cover. Can't make the game too easy

[rustic robin]

The wall-bangs in ready or not are pretty odd and inconsistant imo

[willow jetty]

Yep, active shooters definitely shoot towards sounds and last known positions (suppressing fire)

[civic otter]

Thanks

[shy tulip]

I think it's basically it'll be if they can't see % of your body they won't shoot, but I'm not too technical on that

[rustic robin]

Exactly.

[shy tulip]

One of the old dev logs talks about it

[civic otter]

Yes there is a difference between suppression and an AI seeing you from 30 meters through a 1mm gap on a cardboard box

[vocal night]

i hope this wont be abusable by the player

[placid cypress]

Ofc

A good fix would be some sort of update on how ai detects sound

Cus still im not sure if being quiet actually affects anything

[buoyant light]

i did it yesterday in 2 tries. Just beanbag, CS gas and stinger gl for long range, mostly outside. Take it slow, slow peeking corners seems to work for me, remember to press F, usually suspects will answer back and reveal their location.

[noble pasture]

They also turn it into Fallujah fast

[placid cypress]

If you dont mind ”cheesing it” you could try using the mod that gets rid of the unauthroized use of force mechanic

[rustic robin]

Would be hard to implement, AI mag dumping you through the wall for making a singular footstep would be a whole another issue.

[buoyant light]

how would u get unauthroized use of force with a bean bag?

[placid cypress]

Since sometimes it can be really weird and you get point deductions for shooting someone who is obviously a threat

[rustic robin]

Because beanbags hurt

[buoyant light]

they only die if u hit them in the head with beans

[placid cypress]

Ofcourse not like that
Like im guessing you cant hear someone walking on the other side of your wall

[noble pasture]

If you accidentally headshot them

[buoyant light]

wdym fallujah? i dont see marines xd

[fringe vault]

well if they are cuffed and secured and if your shoot them or accidentally headshot them

[rustic robin]

Beanbags still do damage to people IRL, it would be an UoF violation to shoot someone without valid reasoning, beanbags have enough power to tear flesh off and blast fingers off.

[noble pasture]

Shooting from every crack in the warehouse

[lean plank]

Does anyone know what part of the DLC release will be free?

[noble pasture]

Swat AI taking 3 business days to throw a cs nade they pulled out the glock and shot a suspect dead

[rustic robin]

#💬general-discussion message

[fringe vault]

Guns and balaclavas, transition to the new UE5 system

only thing not free are the DLC maps and customization options

[lean plank]

Got it, ty guys

[buoyant light]

try and take as the last part or u can try my route. if u want.
Clear the entrance post office, and dont enter the warehouse. Go back outside to the right and clear the building which usually has a suspect and a civ. Then enter the warehouse through the door right next to the building, and go around the right at the edge of the accessable part of the map, and then go outside on the truck side and clean the outside. Then do inside last

[fringe vault]

anything else like core mechanics included are free, also only host needs the dlc so if you have a friend with the dlc you can play it for free

[noble pasture]

Hmm, will they also put out optimisation updates?

[fringe vault]

They said UE5 should make the engine smoother and improve graphics

[buoyant light]

play solo

[noble pasture]

Use a shield to bait suspects into shooting me?

[buoyant light]

nope

[buoyant light]

m203 with Stinger for long range

or wait its not an m203, ehh whatever that GL is called

[rustic robin]

M320

[buoyant light]

yes

[covert aurora]

how about a P320! 😄

[buoyant light]

I use the 320 xcarry as a duty gun, its amazing

[chilly forum]

guys we’re getting o’block in ron

[primal kelp]

Hi guys, quick question: do we know when AI detection changes would go live? I'm asking about changes announced in Vol. 73 briefing.

[buoyant light]

23rd

[frail quartz]

I'm still waiting patiently for a glock 17

[rustic robin]

Good gun

[covert aurora]

LEO? if so.... o7 for your service, stay safe always! 🙂

[covert aurora]

i like the design of the 320

[buoyant light]

Danish Armed Forces, not american :D

[rustic robin]

Probably not anytime soon since they didn't announce it in home invasion and patch notes take months for VOID to cook, best option is to get a reskin mod.

[covert aurora]

ah! my bad! still! o7 for your service may not be from denmark but you still get a o7

[rustic robin]

o7

[primal kelp]

Thank you so much <3. It is confirmed, right? Cause 23rd is a DLC date.

[covert aurora]

yes thats 100% comfirmed

[gleaming fable]

headcam text finally got a facelift.

we are so back.

[mossy hatch]

Anyone else somehow already get the achievement for the DLC that's not out yet? #🎨ron-screenshots-and-art message

[native rune]

Known bug

[trim raft]

Wait is the DLC just going to be three maps then? Will they have all the gamemodes or some variations of the map? (ala Twisted Nerve Raid vs Barricaded Suspects)

[mossy hatch]

gotcha

[wet tinsel]

So is the dlc just one map and 3 guns?

[native rune]

Did you watch the video

[trim raft]

It seems like it's at least three from the description

[plain osprey]

3 maps, the guns are free

[wet tinsel]

Oh neat, ty

[trim raft]

But the announcement is kind of poorly worded tbh, too meta and in universe so it's not entirely clear whether it's three new locations in the game world with a few maps for each or actually three maps

[frail quartz]

One day our beloved MPX will recieve justice

[plain osprey]

Our? Fuck that shi, you're alone on this one my man

[frail quartz]

This MPX slander will be not tolerated, you'd be shot if we could actually control the recoil 😤

[plain osprey]

😭

[frail quartz]

30 rounds in the ceiling should be good enough of a message, shouldn't it?

[covert aurora]

i was pinged and saw something about the MCX, what about it now?

😕

[frail quartz]

wait

I think I replied to the wrong message

[plain osprey]

Checks out, I hate the MPX

[gleaming fable]

headcam finally in the right position. thx void, very cool of you.

[frail quartz]

Yeah you sent a message about the MPX needing some changes, didn't you?

[covert aurora]

negative

[rustic robin]

MPX is meh

[covert aurora]

i said nothing about the MPX i was talking about the P320 earlier

[plain osprey]

The voices in his head are getting louder

[frail quartz]

Yeah I guess the schizophrenia is getting worse

[plain osprey]

😔

[covert aurora]

you sure you haven't been doing the ARG secretly with us and getting lost within the rabbit holes of it

[frail quartz]

Nah I forgot that existed tbh

[covert aurora]

lol

think alot of people did.... but oh wells

[rustic robin]

Am I the only one that enjoys starting a multiplayer lobby going in solo and shooting every single civ in the head with a shotgun

[frail quartz]

Nah, there's a concerning amount of people who likes that

[plush knoll]

I unalived a suspect trying to “S” Brisa Cove. He caught that bag to the dome. Perma sleep.

[half cosmos]

UE5 releases along with Home Invasion correct?

[jolly verge]

yes

[plain osprey]

Yuh

[random sentinel]

@gaunt gale can we preload the dlc in advance or is it only downloadable on the release date?

[gaunt gale]

Now that I don't know

Very likely not, I'm afraid

[random sentinel]

Ah I see

[burnt chasm]

What's the size of the update

[solid yarrow]

uneducated guess probably 10-15gb

[stable kernel]

Likely a full redownload, since they have to provide us with the new UE5 updated assets

[burnt chasm]

Nahh gonna wait another 12 hours with my shit wifi just for an update 💀

[solid yarrow]

like all assets, or just the ones used in the new maps etc?

[stable kernel]

The entire game is being converted to UE5, so all assets

[solid yarrow]

oh wow

[jolly verge]

We will for sure reinstall whole game again

[noble pasture]

Yes, which scares me performance wise

[solid yarrow]

was thinking the exact same hahaha

[misty island]

What is your green role?

[versed trail]

Guys im not quite sure. When dlc releases then there will be also update that transitions game to ue5?

[fringe vault]

Yes

[noble pasture]

UE5 always fucked over performance in every game I own that has done the upgrade

[versed trail]

lets hope void will cook with this one

[burnt chasm]

Which means the entire model convert it into nanite?

[jolly verge]

there will be no nanite or something performance costing on ue5, so performance should be the same + we gonna get pso pre-compilation

[solid yarrow]

with the game already being kinda unoptimized :(

[frail quartz]

They said the game isn't in the state to use most of the big fancy features of UE5

[burnt chasm]

Just hope its not going to be another bugfest of a launch

[noble pasture]

Every game I own shat itself performance wise once UE5 came

[jolly verge]

can you name one of them?

[buoyant light]

EFT

[noble pasture]

Starship Troopers: Extermination @jolly verge

[burnt chasm]

Just thinking of the bugged cracked out of ai fucking gives me a migraine

[noble pasture]

Launched as UE4 and upgraded to UE5 this year

Somehow graphics look the same

[jolly verge]

It's using Nanite and Virtual Shadow Maps, so no wonder performance is worse compare to ue4

[noble pasture]

What are those?

[jolly verge]

You better google it or check videos explaining it

[silk isle]

i suggest everyone already shitting on the DLC and patch to shut the fuck up and wait for it to actually release before your shit opinions

[solid yarrow]

its a discussion for a reason

[silk isle]

discuss trailer and content why bother discussing performance when we have no clue what its gonna be like on release

[opaque moth]

dlc looks FIRE

[wheat egret]

anyone know what the server locations are?

[native rune]

Newsflash 80% of the stuff talked about here is about stuff that isn’t out yet, that’s the entire point, void has a habit of taking ages to release anything so if you’ve been here for the last two years talking about ‘what’s next’ is a big part of it.

[opaque moth]

"the more things change, the more they stay the same.."

[jolly verge]

what server?

[wheat egret]

game servers

[jolly verge]

there is no servers

[plain osprey]

The game is p2p

So it uses steam servers. You're basically the server

[silk isle]

i dont care how long shit takes i care about quality. you people are the reason everything releases rushed and broken nowadays

[wheat egret]

oh. the host is random or whoever invites the party?

[opaque moth]

uhhh.. like in game..? the server farm mission??

[plain osprey]

Whoever starts the session

[wheat egret]

got it thanks

[native rune]

I’m well aware but if we’re going to follow the “shut up till it’s out” logic then there wouldn’t be much to talk about

[wheat egret]

nvm got it thanks

[opaque moth]

i saw that they revamped the helmet cam, that's good news i think

[woven palm]

Hey question! Will the home invasion map be a dlc that will have to be purchased? Or is it just a free update?

[shy tulip]

The maps are part of the paid dlc

[stable kernel]

Maps and some cosmetics are paid, but the game update itself is free. If the host of the lobby owns the DLC, others can play the maps without paying.

[plain osprey]

Weapons are free

[jolly verge]

Weapons are free

[stable kernel]

I was unaware, thank you

[frail quartz]

#💬general-discussion message This should help

[prime wing]

Kill this man

Make him feel dizzy

[umbral oar]

We worked so hard for this lip sync ❤️❤️

[pliant void]

I thought they said they weren't going to release until they had done the Unreal 5 upgrade so they didn't have to do it twice? So what's going on now?

[fringe vault]

they are releasing the UE5 transition with this DLC

[pliant void]

Oh ok I didn't see them mention that, awesome if so.

[fringe vault]

In #💬general-discussion check pins and u can see a little comment explaining the dlc

[shy tulip]

https://tenor.com/view/i-did-all-that-curtis-payne-house-of-payne-good-will-nothing-s9e6-gif-25470431

[ruby umbra]

I love the approach to DLC here. Made it both affordable, and not restricting the equipment. Only the maps, which can still be played in multiplayer of the host had them.

[mild latch]

It's smart business, too. Not that other game companies would be have the sense to realize it. They'd rather shoot themselves in the foot cause they can't see past their greed.

[boreal egret]

I have this issue in RON that when i turn my frames drop and then level back out to 60, can anyone help?

[uneven lintel]

Might be lighting, I have had that issue before, if there is lots of lighting behind you it lags when you turn to it. I would turn down graphics.

[boreal egret]

I have a 4070 so it could be graphicly intense

[jolly verge]

pc specs?

[boreal egret]

one sec

I7-900F 3.0 ghz

my memory seems to be intense tho...

[silver palm]

23rd couldn't come out any sooner

[jolly verge]

you playing on dx12?

[boreal egret]

it seems that if i restart RON it will work

[uneven lintel]

Hm

[hazy spear]

ron is just bad fps

[boreal egret]

yes

[uneven lintel]

Its gotten better

[jolly verge]

stutters happen like every 1-2 seconds?

[silver palm]

Do you play at 1080p?

[hazy spear]

never consistent for me personally

i even played at 360p 25% resolution and still stutter

[jolly verge]

most of stutters related to shader compiling, nothing to do with graphics settings