👮ron-discussion

[hardy garden]

and this lady isnt affected by a flashbang

[native rune]

Same reason the bulletproof glass on gas station is 80% less bullet proof when a suspect shoots through it

[hardy garden]

this game is bs

[amber dock]

Yep, and using the money they got from their scam to make the scam better and more playable so they can scam more people

[crude prism]

The glass is bulletproof, the doorframe is not

[crude prism]

VOID scam turns into a whole real game because it's more profitable to be good. jej

[native rune]

Believe It or Not

[crude prism]

As it should be with basically any promise from someone who wants to sell you a product

[half crescent]

Hey I'm back to finally read and respond to this on something other than a phone.

Throughout this conversation, you entirely shifted the focus away from the original point.
You made it about majority satisfaction, when it was about notable dissatisfaction.
These are the goalposts you were moving that I mentioned earlier.
Just because the majority is satisfied does not invalidate the notable dissatisfaction...
You also created an unfair dichotomy and misrepresentation of everything that I was saying because you said that because the majority of people do not “expect the moon”** then** ONLY the people that "expect the moon" can be disappointed, excluding people that do not "expect the moon" and are still disappointed.
(Which are in fact the primary people I care about.)
Furthermore, steam reviews do NOT provide due diligence to measure the broad scale of user satisfaction, as another person mentioned, and for reasons that anyone can reasonably infer.
You can say that the majority is satisfied as much as you want (and you have) and I do not contest that.
But I also do not care because that is an extremely lazy topic.

There is no point in further conversation on this topic other than a response. Goodbye!

[halcyon mountain]

True. Hard to tell if it’s a blessing or a curse… games these days are imperfect but looking back all i see is nostalgia and questionable replayability throughout the years. RON is bomb

[frail pier]

Whole lotta word spaghetti

[gaunt gale]

Just RONcord things going on up in here

[frail pier]

The usual you surprised?

[crude prism]

People come into RoN with all kinds of expectations. My goal is not to invalidate the major criticisms, see literally my entire history in this discord attempting to make the game better via feedback/reports/spreadsheets and videos explaining issues, my only point was that with the only available metric we have (steam) the majority of people are satisfied AND the issues that many long-time-fans see just don't reach most of the playerbase. (laser misalignment still broken kekw, 5 months of damage being broken)

People who come in with low/average expectations and are still disappointed I honestly don't care much about. The genre probably isn't for them, comparatively there is nothing on the market that does what RoN does. (also I'm doing it again, which I hate, le-indie-dev)

Bugs suck, Void has a hard time pushing patches to fix front-facing issues, and in hindsight, having every single AI work independently (which makes scripted events seeming impossible) is a real bad decision.

[frail quartz]

Why are we talking so much about the playerbase 'ignoring the issues', isn't that 95% of what we talk about here?

[crude prism]

The only people who come into discord/forums are looking for groups to play or looking to complain

[frail pier]

Playerbase ignoring issues? Yes because the 5k avg people who play per day have fun and usually don't give a shit. People play goof fucked bug filled games and still have fun. Do I myself wanna see shit fixed sure but I'm not letting random stuff like bugs ruin my fun unless it's incredibly game breaking.

[frail quartz]

I'm personally going to wait for more improvements before I commit to playing through the entire campaign, but I did have a great time during the missions I tried

Not to say my ai teammates weren't a pain in the ass

[frail pier]

Why we didn't go to unreal engine 5 before 1.0 release is mind boggling. Unsure about the excuse on that but regardless if you don't like the game don't play it then lol. Crazy idea?

[frail quartz]

If they didn't have the time to release the game with proper polishing then I doubt they'd be able to fit in an engine change during that time as well 🤷‍♂️

[gaunt gale]

For the first part I can say for certain, if the change over to UE5 was going to happen pre 1.0, then we'd be getting 1.0 now instead of a DLC and the engine revamp

[crude prism]

oh nooooooooo, what a horrible thing that would beeeeeeeeeeeeee (the game should probably still be in EA)

[frail pier]

See and even though I still enjoy the game I'd rather it be that way but that's just me. How much is gonna break switching to UE5? Squad did that and it was hell LOL.

[frail pier]

Agreed

[crude prism]

Hey guys do subtitles work yet, or do video settings save yet?

[gaunt gale]

Both should be fully functional

[frail pier]

When we update to UE5 call it "Ready or Not Public Play Test"

[crude prism]

I'm gonna boot the game and replays is gonna be disabled again

still can't disable nvidia reflex either

[frail pier]

Still can't turn on reflex with boost^

Do you have it set to read only in the file manager?

[crude prism]

Let me just go into the config and manually set what I want and then read only, because that's what we need every player to do if they want saved settings

[crude prism]

Nah it's not

[frail pier]

Wild

[frail pier]

I can try to see if it works for me but I quit using that a long time ago.

Half the time it never worked

Stab vests still to this day can equip steel and ceramic (Shouldn't be able to) but just will always default to Kevlar regardless of option.

How to fuck with new players since they won't know.

Or the fact that running only front plate will always put Kevlar on the sides and back. Which is fine but needs to be known and not just datamined...

Goofy shit that's still present lel

[frail quartz]

iirc, the player's default shoes are still a pair that aren't even unlocked at the beginning

[frail pier]

Omfg never noticed

[crude prism]

The default heavy vest model uses a skin that's not even unlockable

[frail pier]

I rock them T I M B S

[crude prism]

and when you change it, it's gone

[frail pier]

[frail quartz]

AND the player's default helmet is miscolored compared to your clothes 😡

[frail pier]

You wear helmets?

[crude prism]

they give me a nice false sense of security (I will be chain headshot in a fraction of a second)

[full lake]

Hello! Tell me, what is the future of the scenary that were cut after release? Are they planning to return them?

[frail quartz]

How else am I supposed to hide my baldspot?

[gaunt gale]

What do you mean scripts?

[full lake]

omg...Sorry "scenary"

Yes, that's exactly what I asked about. Thank you!

[tender jewel]

atleast fix the 0.1 second reaction time of AI, and them not reacting to stinger grenades, or being hit by pepperballs....

[civic viper]

Just seen the teaser for the hurricane, imagine if the new update involved the level during the hurricane, not only having the worry about being attacked from suspects, also worrying about being harmed during the hurricane depending on the circumstances. A long shot, though would be crazy. Could also lead to the introduction of being in the role of the national guard responding to a situation in the future given the national guard being deployed during the natural disasters like hurricanes such a riots, looting or something like that

[hollow citrus]

soon™

RoN dlc edition

[full lake]

Maybe someone can tell me?
It’s alarming, after the story with the BSG company.

[gaunt gale]

For that, I'm not quite sure when or if they'll be coming back.

[full lake]

Damn...=(

This is due to the fact that with the help of mods you can do your own tasks. And this is competition to the official DLC

[full lake]

0_o oh wonderful news! Thanks, I'll check it now. Wow! Thanks a lot! This is the best news since the beginning of the year! Seems to work

[robust spire]

ok, this is last time im joining server. so basically idk why im able to play games with 960 required but whenever i play ready or not it crashes even on lowest settings WITH FSR on

[frail pier]

Gtx 960?

Idk wtf 960 meant in that

[robust spire]

yes, thats minimum for ready or not. ive played games with higher minimums but they work, yet ready or not just crashes cuz my computers crap

[frail pier]

Why you using FSR

Isn't that only for AMD I thought?

[robust spire]

so i can get better performance but it doesnt matter

[frail pier]

Ahh

[robust spire]

cuz the game just crashes when loading into the police stations

[frail pier]

You did the usual verify.

Or nah

[robust spire]

why can i run this on a computer that has almost the exact same specs (just amd version) yet this computer cannot run it with intel version

[robust spire]

also yes.

[frail pier]

That is mighty wild. What error does it give you? And what version are you launching

Dx11 , dx12, safemode?

Tried all of them?

[robust spire]

DX11, it says critical error. im gonna try again today but if it doesnt work i give up, and also dx12 just gives me a fatal error right off the bat

[frail pier]

Safe mode have you tried? Should be same as dx11 though

[robust spire]

i think ive tried. ill post error log today if it crashes once again.

[frail pier]

[robust spire]

goated game btw

[frail pier]

Nah it definitely is. Somethings gotta huff some copium here and there but all is well 🙂

[unkempt epoch]

this game is funny i like it

car-tel banking mod has stripper models like what the hell

strippers in a bank imagine that

[frail pier]

Only so many bills can fit in a thong

[robust spire]

i'm downloading RoN rn

itll be done in like 15 minutes probably

[open moon]

Is there any servers/groups that play RON seriously (RP/Tactical)?

[shy tulip]

#📌unit-promo

[robust spire]

guys my game does not work

no matter what i do

i loaded into the training level, it did not crash but when i load into the police station, it crashes

[faint folio]

You running mods

[robust spire]

nope none

[faint folio]

Verify files?

[robust spire]

yes

[faint folio]

What else have you done so I don't repeat suggestions

[robust spire]

like i said ive loaded into the training level and it did not crash, so it is very weird that it crashes specifically on the police station.

[faint folio]

Graphics settings?

[robust spire]

low and fsr performance turned on

[faint folio]

You meet the minimum right

[robust spire]

no but it does run on the amd version of my specs so idk why its quitting on the intel version

and ive ran games with similar specs before

[faint folio]

Every game is different that's probably the reason why

[sick pine]

man, trying to do a non-lethal run sucks

this guy on twisted nerve just shot himself :/

[winter orbit]

make him unshoot himself

obviously

[sick pine]

i was going to shoot him so he got stunned

but i was a bit too late (0.5 seconds late)

[winter orbit]

reaction times lacking

[sick pine]

yup

[restive vapor]

next time keep your arm aimed at the groin, unless that is what convinced the suspect

[sick pine]

i mean...maybe

[winter orbit]

suspect down bad for swatussy

[green bluff]

Anyone know how to fix a black screen of abyss whenever you launch it 💀

[chrome viper]

That mission in the warehouse is so hard

[earnest sentinel]

anyone know why I keep getting the "failed to connect to host" thing over and over again just tryna play with my friend and ive never had this issue before

[waxen grove]

That’s what infuriates me it feels like you can only ever go dynamic with ARs

[sick pine]

yep

[waxen grove]

Swat was just balanced in a way you were rewarded for stealth and less lethal was always an option except for the obvious shit hit the fan missions

[shy tulip]

You were rewarded in the sense that the AI wouldn't be as likely to 180 makarov you in the face, but otherwise the game is pretty forgiving overall, except for actual S ranks.

Do love getting toe shot and losing S

[waxen grove]

Swat 3 was a little less forgiving

[vague pagoda]

Swat 4 was so easy lol

good maps tho

[shy tulip]

Only reason I haven't completed it is because I want to S-rank it all and can't get past like the 4th mission because the AI will just snap shoot you in the leg, or your teammates legs

[raven estuary]

Does failing one of the main objectives in a mission affect an ironman mode run in any way?

[shy tulip]

Besides losing score and potentially causing your SWAT to get stressed, nothing long term

[raven estuary]

Got it. Cheers!

[radiant kite]

I do gotta ask have they abandoned the idea of adding the ai police officers around the maps to make them feel more alive? I posted this message in the wrong chat so not spam😭

[urban walrus]

You mean ai police officers outside of the playable area of the map?

[radiant kite]

Yea like how on the gas station there’s a police car barricade but no officers the same on the other maps even tho in one of there announcements they said they would be adding them

[urban walrus]

Well, they have the animations for them that they haven't implemented yet so the idea is still there

[radiant kite]

It would be cool to see more police activity on the maps beside just swat like maybe some dead officers or something scattered thru out but hopefully they implement it in the dlc 👏

[shadow flicker]

Maybe even have officers outside to get back to and hand over suspects to complete a mission instead of it just finishing when you've done all the objectives.

[radiant kite]

I have noticed if you tell civilians to run to the exit they will go there and get arrested so there is a form of that already but only for the civs

[shadow flicker]

Alot of things could be added to be fair. Maybe even 1-2 missions where you do a helicopter insertion with UH-60's since SWAT is provided with those. Maybe even Bell 407's or Eurocopter AS350's.

Would be dope to see more diversity.

[radiant kite]

Something like that for the port would be nice but then again there is already the entrance by boat with stealth also some more joint ops missions or ones like a lethal obsession that delve into the backstory of are character

[shadow flicker]

Maybe undercover missions, bomb threats in really crowded area's where you have to find the threat and then act on it, vip escorts/protection etc.

Prison riot controls, evacuations, vehicle interdictions maybe?

[silent osprey]

Or maybe even a scouting phase where you are a regular LSPD officer, and you respond to a call with another one of your buddies, where you can see the events that led to the situation you are plopped into as a SWAT.

Comparable to the payday map, where you see different jobs popping up with different voice logs playing that give you a small background to the job you're abt to take

[shadow flicker]

Due to the game being in the perspective of a SWAT officer, it most likely wouldn't fit into what they're trying to do. Still a good idea in general tho.

Maybe a modded scenario that could provide that?

[silent osprey]

Im not so sure. I wouldnt think of it as more than a play-once scenario for singleplayer. Strictly an option for story reasons.

And it would also depend on the scenario, obviously LSPD officers wouldn't be responding to a situation as shown in rust belt.

It would've fit more on release tho, so in my dreams.

[shadow flicker]

A helicopter insertion would for sure be a really dope thing. Some sort of "neutralize a high-profile criminal or terrorist group conducting a hostage situation inside the building". Of course, you'd wanna make sure that there is a good reason for there being a helicopter so maybe say like "negotiations have failed, and it is believed the syndicate is preparing to execute their demands within the next hour. The building's security systems are heavily fortified, and traditional ground approaches are deemed too risky due to potential traps and heavy resistance". Maybe make it a skyscraper map? Something like the Ziba Tower from Battlefield would be awesome.

Is there some sort of recommendation/idea forum/channel where we could post this sorta stuff or is this just a developer ran game more then a community ran game?

[silent osprey]

Even if they did, the dev team only cares about transfering the engine to unreal 5

And the dlc.

[shadow flicker]

Any idea what the DLC will include?

[eternal vine]

Hide and Seek is the last mission right?

[stone bay]

Correct

[eternal vine]

Will there be new missions soon

This game is so goated

[stone bay]

Not until the DLC drops

[eternal vine]

Can I still get the ironman achivement with mods

[jolly verge]

yes, mods don't affect them

[eternal vine]

Okay, thanks

[vast tinsel]

is there going to be pvp?

[sick pine]

Yes but the devs are still planning how to add it into the game in a way that matches the thing theyre going for

[misty island]

Did we play the same game?

[eternal vine]

Huh?

[misty island]

Game's shit.

[eternal vine]

Well, thats your opinion

[wraith scroll]

Hi guys i bought the game how do i stack up my guys?

[noble pasture]

Any release date on the Home Invasion update?

[noble pasture]

I need to know cause if I play now and the update fucks my mods, I need to be ready

[stone stump]

no one knows

[sick pine]

Have you played the tutorial?

[wraith scroll]

yes i am in it rn

[sick pine]

Oh

Press middle mouse button

And you should be guided thru

You can also change it in the options if you arent as comfortable using scroll wheel (Im not)

[wraith scroll]

it is not working

i press it and nothing is happening

[sick pine]

Hmm

Go into your keybinds

See if its the right keybind

If not you can try pressing Z ig

[vital moat]

i absolutely

hate trying to do s rank

bro i deadass just shot a gun with stinger

RIGHT INTO HIS CHEST

NO REACTION, TURNS AROUND, INSTA SNIPES ME

valley of the dolls sucks ass

[noble pasture]

I got blocked at Greased Palms S rank

[vital moat]

straight up

i have gone through hours trying to beat valley of the dolls in s rank

still havent

[noble pasture]

I suggest you download mods

[vital moat]

fuck no

im gonna suffer instead

[tender jewel]

whats better, beanbag shotgun or tpl smg for postal map?

[jolly verge]

vks with pacifier trait

[tender jewel]

where is VKS in coop?

[wraith scroll]

how can i select what to do from that menu on middle mouse button i dont understand

[tender jewel]

i dont see VKS, MGL in MP

[stone stump]

one of the easiest maps to s rank

[jolly verge]

assault rifles section

[tender jewel]

and rotary grenade launcher?

[jolly verge]

you mean m32a1?

[stone stump]

it's gone

[jolly verge]

you can add it in loadout, just use mods for this

[tender jewel]

not sure. its the same grenade launcher that fires 40mm in quick succession? not the single shot

anyways which is the best scope for short range? holosight or microt2 or m5b or srs

[jolly verge]

any you comfortable with

[wraith scroll]

hiw can i open the mission menu tablet

to see it clearly

[tender jewel]

well i want one thats accurate and not taking up my view

[stone stump]

scope is useless for short range smh

[jolly verge]

hold tab

[wraith scroll]

oh thx

[tender jewel]

by the way is it realistic that OSW AP rounds cant penetrate a thin metal door?

[stone stump]

762x51 you mean? it could be realistic depending on the angle and the bullet velocity

[tender jewel]

did the scar get removed in game? Im new to game

yes that x51mm, i literally shot at perpendicular at a door- point blank range- cuz the suspect was standing right behind it as seen in optiwand
he didnt get affected

[stone stump]

SCAR-L is in the game

[tender jewel]

is the designation different? any SCAR with 7.62x51mm?

[stone stump]

SCAR with 7.62x51 would be called SCAR-H, so no

and it's called MK16 ingame

[tender jewel]

ok thanks

[stone stump]

keep in mind it's pretty awful

compared to guns more suitable for CQB, like ARN180, LVAR or G36C

[gilded spear]

The SCAR-H would be the MK17

[tender jewel]

alr thanks
Are the devs planning to fix/nerf the unrealistic AI? Cuz my friend and I want to stay vanilla, 0.1 sec reaction time and them feeling nothing from stingers are annoying and made us restart alot

[stone stump]

probably not

[river tide]

the ai isn’t unrealistic lmao it’s still super good

[tender jewel]

yeah okay please account for normal human reaction time and input lag

[river tide]

i mean a crack head / trained body guard is going to have a fast reaction time

[stone stump]

fast =/= faster than any human

[river tide]

yeah but it’s not faster than any human

it’s fast but not god speed

[stone stump]

it is

[river tide]

yeah no it isn’t

you can complain all you want but the ai became a lot getter since game launch

and it’s a very good ai

[stone stump]

my condolences for being blind

but im jealous of your sub 250ms reaction times (that's for confirming a threat and stopping it), it's really something special

[river tide]

yeah 250ms isn’t god speed, it’s super fast especially for a normal human but for a trained body guard or meth head, they can have reaction times below 100ms

[stone stump]

are you sure we're talking about humans?

[river tide]

just google it, it says a good reaction time is 100-300 ms

[stone stump]

they can have reaction times below 100ms

so can they or not?

[river tide]

that’s because they train a shit ton, they’re TRAINED BODY GUARDS

it’s not like we train everyday for that stuff

we just hop on the game

[stone stump]

and supposedly their reaction time is faster than trained swat operators that are ex-special forces?

[river tide]

i’ve never seen swat training but i would assume they don’t rely on reaction time

[stone stump]

i would love to see this amazing trained body guard turning around, drawing their weapon into a ready position and shooting you in a span of 100ms

[river tide]

a trained human can have a reaction time of 100 ms

[stone stump]

because that's what the ai does in ron if they're stressed

[stone stump]

and btw, that time is for a singular action

[river tide]

i just got 118 ms

[river tide]

don’t forget if they turn around that fast they’re already expecting you so they’re gonna know exactly where you are

yeah and my reaction time is shit too

i’m not trained for that stuff

[stone stump]

and they have a 360 degree vision, so cool

[fading night]

https://tenor.com/view/summon-meme-water-negromancy-gif-21939289

[river tide]

almost like, they can hear when you kick a door open 🤯

almost like they have ears 🤯

[stone stump]

i don't kick doors open

[river tide]

if you peek a door and walk in that way, shift walk, haven’t pacified any people yet, they won’t notice you behind them

after you get a suspect down, almost like YOURE KNOWN THERE ALREADY 🤯

[stone stump]

let's imagine you're a swat operator in ron, you have the upper hand, you don't stomp like you've eaten an entire mcdonald's, and you take a suspect by surprise. this suspect doesn't have their gun in ready position, they aren't looking directly at you, but they are aware that swat is doing a raid. what happens? the suspect reacts way faster than you, so despite having that upper hand of surprising the suspect, they still get their gun into a ready position, aim at you and take a shoot, all while you were already aiming at them, ready to shoot

solution? never directly engage with UNAWARE suspects because the game can't be bothered to provide you with a fair AI behavior

[shadow flicker]

welcome to the gaming industry

[umbral oar]

wat

[glass tide]

Does weapons replacement for ga416 affect advanced armory?

[sudden marsh]

well the tactical gaming industry, because this industry is not good

[shadow flicker]

90% of FPS games like to do their own thing instead of listening to communities. Step 1 to getting ur community to move somewhere else.

[river tide]

i mean if they’re also shooting at swat they’re probably on some drugs so

[hardy garden]

Why are you defending the horrible ai

[river tide]

because it’s not terrible

the ai is really good

[hardy garden]

Its dogshit

[river tide]

how is it dog shit

[hardy garden]

Why do you think the ai turning around in less than a second and shooting you is good ai

[river tide]

because it’s realistic

with the assumption they’re on meth

which if they’re shooting at swat they probably are

[hardy garden]

So realistic bro…

The realism is captivating!

Oh yeah they can see u through walls too

[restive vapor]

port or postal?

port is just finding everybody from my experience, postal has those long sightlines with a ton of very slim gaps between pieces of concealment that the suspects like to no-scope headshot you from, especially outside, but bringing a ton of door wedges is always a good idea to cut off potential ambushes while you are clearing a different portion

[river tide]

no they don’t

they hear you

[urban walrus]

Not everyone has the same opinion as you. That's one of the reasons why the game is still on Mostly positive and not Mixed or Negative.

[winter orbit]

Game is good
Best tactical game out there

[restive vapor]

but none are as hard to s rank for me as voll, guy just has a habit of getting my whole squad to ND right into his cranium every time

[winter orbit]

deserved

[restive vapor]

even the AI squad, they also will just run past and light 'im up to the point I almost am expecting to hear "Hi everyone Donut here"

[river tide]

agreed

[winter orbit]

o7

[sick pine]

i mean in my very humble opinion it sorta is yeah

its not the average larp game that only focuses on killing bad guys with cool looking equipment and tier 1 stuff

[restive vapor]

best non-vr exclusive especially

[sick pine]

i feel more inmersed in the game than anything else i played...except for insurgency sandstorm ofc xD

[restive vapor]

even moreso than sandstorm imo, cause sandstorm will still have people running with the shorty M82 trying to turn another into balonga mist at point blank

[sick pine]

oh ya absolutely!! ron gives a more realistic view on the law enforcement side than nearly 99% of the games out there

now imagine another game with the same engine thats about special operations black ops, that'd be cool

[sick pine]

specially on that place that got struck by the US and caused a group to go into mainland in neon tomb

[restive vapor]

wasnt that attack motivated by a drone strike tho?

[sick pine]

yeah it was

but honestly a whole separate game about the usia going clandestine on there trying to gather info would be cooool but idk

[stone stump]

so true so true

[chrome viper]

The like mail warehouse

And it’s harder bc it was just me and my friend

[radiant kite]

It would be cool but mainly delving into the background of judge being like a sleeper agent for them because there are so maybe small hints and details thru the map a lethal obsession and in older versions of the game

[sick pine]

oh yeye

[restive vapor]

yup, my preferred method for that is bring a lot of door wedges, start outside, clear the office right at spawn, once you get to the hallway that goes to the loading bay to the left with the main mail room being accessed from the two doors on your right, you wedge those 3, then go back outside, head westward and wedge all the doors going between the inside and outside, go back and do the west after, be careful when doing the west lot with the loading bays because there are long sightlines and quite a few corners where you have to be mindful of.

[rough oriole]

is the upcoming UE5 update supposed to improve performance at all? also is this AI change gonna fix the somewhat unnatural feeling the AI can have?

[chrome viper]

Ohh I’ll try that I guess but I don’t think he wants to play again

[chrome viper]

Wouldn’t that just make the game run worse

[winter orbit]

For like, the 500th time saying it in this channel, UE5 is bringing better optimisation along with better control of the settings - Lowering settings will probably actually help

You could of course look at the devlogs, where this was stated

[sudden marsh]

If they cant optimize UE4 then they arent optimizing UE5 its simple

[quartz echo]

Is there something wrong with servers? P2P

[slender hill]

I got 6 people in a team now mp game ^^

[rugged edge]

[slender hill]

I always played with 5, is this new? 😮

[jolly verge]

in-game menu mod allow up to 16 players

[slender hill]

i dont play with mods now

[jolly verge]

well host have it

[stone bay]

#💻tech-support message anyone know whats causing this?

[slender hill]

My 2nd mission playing without mods doing 6/6 ready ^^

[rough oriole]

well my guess is they never bothered optimizing UE4 among other things because they were planning on updating to 5
i still think the game was 1.0d too early but hopefully its just a decision they had to make and the game doesnt become abandonware

(why fix 4 and redo it making the transfer harder instead of just transferring to 5 and then fixing 5)

[wraith scroll]

how can i aim like i tilt my gun

[rough oriole]

but im not a dev so

[jolly verge]

O key

[wraith scroll]

thanks

[slender hill]

Still 6/6 mission neon nightclub streaming at general (without mic btw)

1 left now back to 'normal'..

I guess it's fixed, 2nd mission now that it's just 5

[uncut garden]

Well this makes sense tho

Just can only hope that It would be more stable after the transition

Some bug fixes here and there...From then, they could completely concentrate the team resources on AI, contents, Stories etc

[slender hill]

back to 6 players haha

streaming live

[dire sentinel]

Anyone know if we are ever actually getting the MLO? Or has that faction been cancelled all together?

[slender hill]

Again team of 6

[amber dock]

Don't think that's ever been confirmed nor denied

PvP hasn't been addressed for a long time

[dim cape]

is there any plans for a server browser to replace the “find public match” button?

[slender hill]

Public match button gets me a lot of times in a already started mission and back to main menu

[dim cape]

That or “connection to host has been lost” 2 seconds after joining

[rough oriole]

im definitely willing to give benefit of doubt to the version change but im still kinda upset about the price hike and 1.0ification when its definitely not 1.0 lol

[stone bay]

💯

[uncut garden]

It is What It is tho
I'm glad that they don't abandon the game after 1,0 and actually try to add content + port it to UE5 which could benefit a lot of people

[stone bay]

💯

I'm also glad Void is learning from their pre-1.0 mistakes and increasing the amount of communication.

[uncut garden]

1.0 Launch Cracked AI on Greased Palm was something else lol

[stone stump]

don't forget about mindjot

[stone bay]

The main atrium on 23 mbps was a death sentence.

[stone stump]

tbf it still is from time to time

[bronze sequoia]

Shouldnt the beanbag shotgun have 8 shots? Correct me if I'm wrong but I'm pretty sure you load 1 in the chamber than 7 in the tube

[sudden marsh]

1.0 was what killed the game for alot of people, before the disaster i saw alot of praise

[shy tulip]

The great skill issue filter

[edgy linden]

Tbh it can be BS but at least now it's actually fair most the time

Mainly cause the A.I can't damage you thru walls as much

And if you're wearing heavy ceramic armor with a ballistic face mask you can get run up on and react late and still survive

[crude prism]

soon this will be reverted

[abstract bough]

so suspects will have increased damage?

[frail pier]

So true holy cow lmaoooo

I miss it...

[shy tulip]

I believe ceramic is bugged, it is stronger than it should be

Fixing it should be a good step to makin the game hard again

[frail pier]

Not really

Ever speedrun with kevlar?

[stone bay]

Honestly ready or not should use workshop if possible

[crude prism]

like sinner said, ceramic is currently bugged, you can take up to 13 hits with no damage where you're only supposed to take 3

[abstract bough]

heavy armor integral ceramic spin like carousel when hear gunshot

[covert aurora]

Add in medium armor

[umbral oar]

would that be like front & back coverage with only one side covered

[light warren]

how do i change my principal microphone on RoN

[hardy garden]

no workshop is ass

[sudden marsh]

how? its no worser than mod.io and nexus

[hardy garden]

nexus is better in literally every way

[sudden marsh]

control panel > hardware and sound > manage audio devices

[sudden marsh]

they cap your speeds unless you pay, now imagine downloading a huge RoN map
workshop doesnt

[hardy garden]

ok i agree

the speed cap is fucking ridiculous

i was downloading a 500 mb mod for swbf2 and took me around an hour

[light warren]

dosnt exist

like what u mean

[sudden marsh]

in windows settings

[light warren]

naa man

the principal mic on RoN, cuz yea i know how to change my p mic in windows to make RoN use it

but i say that with the intention to make devs add that option

how do i change my principal mic on RoN?

[sudden marsh]

the devs probably might add it but its too miniscule to make the effort when u can do it by control panel

[stone bay]

the places in the trailer are 100% gonna be maps in the DLC rght

I js watched it

[umbral oar]

Yes

[stone bay]

ty

[covert aurora]

They showed them off the briefing before last i believe

[stone bay]

I couldn't see a date in the trailer or the newsletter, is there one yet?

[covert aurora]

Tba currently

My guess the end of this month or sometime next month

[stone bay]

have they said the price?

[covert aurora]

TBD/TBA

My guessestmation: 30$?

[sudden marsh]

why end of this month?

i highly doubt it especially since they delayed it

[misty snow]

which gun has the highest rate of fire?

[sudden marsh]

mp7

[misty snow]

aight thanks for telling me

[junior belfry]

is slug bugged?"

cus it says i have buck even tho i dont?

nvm just learned its a visual bug

[covert aurora]

I am guessing it because based on the teaser the higher out come is next month or Sept

[sterile zodiac]

Apparently four messages with colored text in the fucking LFG is an instant "possible spam"

[urban walrus]

The content is basically finished, they are mainly working fixing things and testing the UE 5.3 integration right now. So it is not really far-fetched of a guess.

[urban walrus]

An og MW2 map pack costs $15 for 5 maps and Home invasion DLC has 3 maps so it should be $9 max

[grave helm]

is there a "training grounds" modded map that works?

[covert aurora]

No i agree with you it should be on the cheaper side. Bit with companies nowadays you never know.

[fiery narwhal]

does anyone else have texture flickering in the elephant map and the seashore map

[rich cobalt]

some students have glowing hair

[fiery narwhal]

my map is flickering

[jolly verge]

can you post video?

[rich cobalt]

god the old voice lines in RoN were so ass

they're too goofy to hate though

"READY OR NOT, HERE I COME"

what i do miss is the disarm and arrest animations though, from the pvp

[full lake]

Damn, the menu works, the modes are displayed, but only one of them is working...

[deep rain]

where did you see that stuff?

[noble pasture]

OG SWAT AI are the real homies

Shout out to Eli, Swan, King and that one guy I keep forgetting his name

[winter orbit]

Prescott

[noble pasture]

I call him just Scott

No stress mechanic, no bs, they go in there and hopefully shoot faster than perps

[eternal vine]

What does Mod Detected: Unoffical Scores mean

[noble pasture]

Means your score is invalidated by mods

Devs wanted to make a leaderboard but got pushed back/canned. Unsure

You still get unlocks and achievments

I don't even know how a leaderboard would work, S rank speed run?

[eternal vine]

👌👌

[copper cypress]

What would make you guys use 4.6x30 JHP instead of 5.56x45 JHP?

[random forge]

Ik no one knows exactly, but roughly what are the rumours of how much the dlc is gonna cost so I can know how much roughly to save up for?

[urban walrus]

$9-10 max based on og MW2 map pack which is $15 for 5 maps

[random forge]

Oh, that’s perfect

Im happy it won’t cost me an arm and a leg

[muted star]

I think it will be around 15$

[unique lava]

PRESSSCOOTTT

beta ron where i would slap heavy armor and a ballistic shield and prescott would go guns blazing

[urban walrus]

For 3 maps, I doubt it but still a possibility

[unique lava]

still not clear if the weapons are locked behind the dlc or not

[muted star]

• cosmetics

[random forge]

From what I’ve heard the weapons will be available to all, maps are locked behind dlc

I could be wrong tho

[urban walrus]

Weapons will be free for all

They have stated that multiple times now

[random forge]

Knew I was right

[urban walrus]

Oh yeah, forgot about that, but it's just 1 outfit, so the price can still be between $10-15

[rich cobalt]

youtube still has pre-alpha footage.

the SWAT announcer is the same VA as the current one, minus the filter.

the suspect announcer is some southern guy.

[rich cobalt]

i have a screen recording of one of the officers saying this.

[frail quartz]

Didn't the old TOC lines sound a lot edgier as well?

[river tide]

they’re still in the game files

[rich cobalt]

somewhat yes

the actual player suspect voicelines were edgier

"YOU SEE NOTHING, I SEE EVERYTHING"

it sounds like judge is forcing a duke nukem impression

[native rune]

Stares at a wall
“Heheheheh…”
Moves to another wall
“Heheheheh…”

[frail quartz]

me fr fr

[river tide]

you don’t

@short venture

why’d you delete your message

telling me to unalive myself

[open solar]

anyone know of there's plans to fix the naming inconsistencies in RoN?

[gaunt gale]

He got yote'

[gaunt gale]

What do you mean?

[open solar]

like how items say "Get an S in Meth" when the mission isnt called that anymore? or "Only use a .357 Magnum in Coyote" when it's called Rust Belt now

[rich cobalt]

soon maybe

[gaunt gale]

Maps do technically have multiple names

[open solar]

but neither are meth and neither are coyote anywhere I can find in game

[rich cobalt]

360ing hispanics in greased palms though better stay in the game

[river tide]

@ashen wren why’d you delete your messages

[rich cobalt]

(please fix this i had a dude fucking dome me behind a mail truck)

[open solar]

he's gone

[gaunt gale]

because I banned him

[rich cobalt]

he's banned

[gaunt gale]

He had a warning on record from 2 days ago

[river tide]

oh ok W

[rich cobalt]

[open solar]

I had a guy one tap me through a closed door on the bridge in twisted nerve

[gaunt gale]

Ohhhh, I could have sworn Coyote was still in-game

That should be a very simple fix

[open solar]

<3

confused me a lot as a new player trying to get achievements and items

[gaunt gale]

Must have just got forgotten in the shuffle

[open solar]

no worries, I know how it gets, especially with a huge influx of players and everyone finding issues, a couple name changes are easy to get overlooked

[river tide]

yeah coyote is called rust belt now

[hexed leaf]

the most confusing thing is when modding the AILevelData.ini and there's an Agency_BarricadedSuspects but also an Agency2_BarricadedSuspects. Like which is the one being used in-game?!?!

[past warren]

Rest in peace my alternate game modes on different maps

🥺

[stone bay]

Active shooter on hospital was so fun 😦

[opal holly]

Hey, when i use recorder or not, there is these white outlines on buildings on modded maps that are flashing, anyone know a solution?

[mental pawn]

When you use the atak or whatever it is called and use the map to plan stuff does the ai listen to it and if so then how do I change the blue one to other swat members because I am assuming they listen to only their color?

[shy tulip]

No, they do not listen to the waypoints you give, you can only command them in a match

[unkempt mountain]

anyone got a vid on the old judge voicelines?
i vaguely remember the duke nukem judge but i cant find them anywhere rn

[stone bay]

anyone know whats causing the enemies to sometimes recover from being mag dumped? #🎬ron-clips-and-media message

[prime wing]

is your game modded?

[stone bay]

got mod menu installed

[prime wing]

JHP or AP

nvm

[stone bay]

ingame menu**** not mod menu

[prime wing]

thats just smgs

smgs are bad

[stone bay]

incredibly bad obviously

didnt realize it would take 30 rounds to down 1 guy

does RON have the ammo selection like swat4? wondering if Im just running the wrong ammo for late-game enemies

[shy tulip]

A lot of that sounds like you were hitting their armor

[shy tulip]

You pick between AP and JHP for non-shotguns yes

I think Neon have some of the best armor (suspect wise) in the game to add to that

[stone bay]

Seemed like they were downed though and the way they got back up (no anim) made me wonder if they somehow respawned

[shy tulip]

It's impossible for them to respawn because the AI only spawn when you load in, afterwards they're on the map just wandering around

[stone bay]

But yea thatd make sense

[shy tulip]

From the look if you hit his chest at first and then he ran to the right in the smoke cloud

[hardy garden]

George Lucas Joined my Swat team

[shy tulip]

Hard to say, I don't like most of the scopes because they block vision like that

[stone bay]

He definitely went down for a few seconds as you can see his head & torso pop up before I start mag dumping

[lament widget]

is there anyone willing to do some comissions for clothing? If so dm me

[shy tulip]

Go to the mod discord in the pins of #🔧modding-chat

[stone bay]

Do any deployables count against the way out west achievement? I tried twice and haven't gotten it yet

[amber dock]

to be as safe as possible just finishe the mission only using the 357, but one trick you can use is get your Ai swat mates to clean majority of the map for you

same goes for the Hanged man achivement

[bronze sequoia]

Bro I swear I cant with this game
Mf was trying to shoot me through a metal container so I tried moving up on him to get a better angle and the SECOND I peeked out from my new cover it's like he fucking xray'd me because he just ran out from behind it and popped me in the head

[oak copper]

ok but when dlc?

[mental rivet]

does beanbag have inf ammo? or do you just get a lot of shells per "mag" with the beanbag shotgun

[shy tulip]

You get a lot

[shy tulip]

When ue5 ready

[mental rivet]

how many do u think?

[shy tulip]

I can't even guess

Way more than you need even if your aim sucks

[mental rivet]

yea I've never even went through one mag

so definitely a lot

[wise bluff]

Is it just me or do loadout presets save in a random order for other people?

Wondering if I should try uninstall and reinstall the game.

[umbral oar]

8 per

even tho the tube only holds 7

[prime mural]

Yes. No nades, no gadget. U can have them on you but just never pull it out

U could have the shield on ur back ig if u wanna min max

Iirc bots can have other guns but also no gadgets no nades

[junior belfry]

is it common to have issues with modded maps in multiplayer?

[toxic yacht]

Does anyone have an up to date list of the current team qualifications? I seem to only have like 4 different kinds, repeating

[prime wing]

wdym

[shy tulip]

I assume they mean a full list of traits like medic, armorer, nutri, etc

There's not too many, but there's more than four I believe.

[toxic yacht]

Seems like I only ever get given paramedic, pacifier, moral officer and pacifier

[shy tulip]

SBAGs, medic, armorer, nutri, kicker?, crowd control I think?

Or was crowd control SBAGs

[toxic yacht]

Hmm, I've never seen those ones

SBAGs, armourer, nutri

[shy tulip]

I might be missing one, dunno, I don't have them all memorized

It's basically more health, more armor, better accuracy, chance to revive, one kick doors, better morale damage, longer stuns

I feel like I'm missing one or two

[toxic yacht]

is kicker useful at all if I bring the ram each time?

[shy tulip]

No if you plan on only using the ram to open doors like that

Maybe for your SWAT AI if you want to use kicking to clear

[toxic yacht]

is there a way to keep refreshing the list of available enlistable team mates?

[prime wing]

murder

jk

[toxic yacht]

if I don't like the selections given

[prime wing]

you just have to either fire them or have them killed

[toxic yacht]

so if I run a mission and come back, the list won't change?

[prime wing]

the game sucks at explaining any of this. But basically you have a roster of people when you begin, but you can hire more when 1) you unlock more slots or 2) Youve lost an officer and you have to replace him with a new one

the list wont change

You cannot refresh options afaik

[shy tulip]

Yeah you'd have to fire or lose people, which would lock you out of an achievement

[tawny arrow]

how do you get the game to run at a playable frame rate?

running on a 4070 Super and a 5800X3D and my game freezes every 2 seconds

[jolly verge]

every 2 sec even in main menu?

[shy tulip]

Stuttering happens when the game is loading shaders, it will disappear with time as you play (until next driver update). I think DX11 helps but you get overall less FPS, something like that.

[tawny arrow]

main menu is fine, same with the loading screen in the van

[shy tulip]

I think the 4070 is a nvidia card so you can also go into control panel > 3d settings > enable caching > 10gb

[tawny arrow]

figured

[jolly verge]

then it's just shader compilation process, which cause stutters on dx12

[tawny arrow]

i was on dx11, but yea its shaders then

just odd, most of the time games pre-load them in the main menu/during installation

[jolly verge]

game lack of pso pre-compilation, but it's will be added in next ue5.3 update

[tawny arrow]

how long should caching the shaders usually take?

[shy tulip]

It is on demand, it happens as you play, Zeus is however correct about next update

[tawny arrow]

cool, any eta on that update?

[shy tulip]

Soon™️

[tawny arrow]

[unique lava]

[open solar]

bro this is so infuriating, I'm trying to do Rust Belt solo with only beanbag but these ai run up on me like they want to kiss me and my guy puts the shotgun into high ready and cant shoot while the AI reloads and magdumps into my forehead

[opaque lagoon]

What graphics settings are you playing on?

[fossil forum]

Hi all
I want to know is there a way to rise a difficulty in this game?
Started playing it yesterday after year of not playing and game seems to easy to me compared to what it was last time I played.

[jolly verge]

There are bunch of AI modification, try them https://www.nexusmods.com/readyornot/mods/categories/17/?BH=0

[fossil forum]

Thank you very much, too bad this game doesnt have steam workshop support...

[jolly verge]

what map?

did you search cave?

attic as well?

might just hiding behind some door or in closets

no, in the house, roof section

second house

yeap

there are table with it and stair to attic

to the right after crossing the bridge

[jolly owl]

Ngl just remember that RON encourages muscle memory so:

Try to get the feel for the map layout first before diving in if your new

[noble pasture]

Ump9 or mp5 in 10mm?

Looking for obscure smg's

[wispy cypress]

when this game gonna be updated bruh

[winter orbit]

[wispy cypress]

"soon"

[winter orbit]

Devs should make a timer
Every time somebody whines about the DLC release they add a day to the release date
See if the community can stop bitching long enough to actually get the update

[wispy cypress]

shut up

game is dead dead, 0 lil updates, no new wpn or map for a while

its been like wuh, half a year or more, many updates was on ai n bugs focused

now sht is boring to play, u know every layout, every enemy spawn.

[tacit gull]

The DLC isn't gonna be big enough to fix that, the game is also very much alive

You can download mods if you need more maps, some of them are really good

[opaque lagoon]

This game makes me need real life cigarettes

[wispy cypress]

g36c

AR

ngl taser 24/7 bangs

[misty island]

ARN-180

[gaunt gale]

SA58 is the best gun in the game

[noble pasture]

My ai Team mates were very stressed I put SA58 vs meth heads

JHP executes shirtless people

[stone bay]

💯

[waxen grove]

1.1 is gonna break all mod support

[tacit gull]

When that comes out

But right now they work just fine

[waxen grove]

the mods might work fine but the game sure doesnt

not to mention the mod scene has dried up waiting on the dlc

[gaunt gale]

I mean, incidentally you can blame that on us and the bounty program

[waxen grove]

yeah but better we know then be blindsided by the ue5 port

[gaunt gale]

Yer

[unique lava]

me watching my sa58 round go through a lightly armoured suspect and incapping a handcuffed civillian behind

[gaunt gale]

That's why you should always confirm what's behind your target

[noble pasture]

Did Twisted Nerve but oh my god, AI got on my nerves

Their spaghetti code for AI kept getting stuck on "stack up" command

[amber dock]

I see what you did there

[noble pasture]

So had to do fall in command, sometimes twice

[stone bay]

i mean the devs are quite a bit behind on their DLC schedule

also it aint bitching. Its excited players waiting for new content.

[sick pine]

Yeowch

[frail pier]

That part! Hit em with the math too

[shy tulip]

Man + bullet = dead

[stone bay]

Quick question, are like smg actually good or just a worse version of the ARs

Because I feel that smg are pretty outmatched to the AR's

[shy tulip]

They won't pen like rifles, but they're fun in their own way.

[stone bay]

By "In their own" you mean I can basically go full out without having massive recoil.

[shy tulip]

Pretty much

[stone bay]

Sweet

[jolly verge]

if you choose right smg with right ammo type you won't have problems

[stone bay]

Ohhh wait, I totally forgot that there's ammo type on this game

If I'm not wrong, AP is best for armored suspects, right?

[silk junco]

yes

[azure nova]

which one is the right smg?

[shy tulip]

The laser that is the SPC obviously

[jolly verge]

depends on map you playing

[balmy yacht]

How do I my AI squad to post up on like a stairway or something?

I want Red team to cover me as blue team and I breach a door right next to the stairwell

[wintry fractal]

hey so outta curiosity yall is the ai still bullshittingly hard, should I keep my Nocrackforyou mod on

[noble pasture]

well they dont shoot you on pixel, they still are hard for S ranks

currently AI either results in me or a friendly dying, or I kill the HVT on Spider

[wintry fractal]

yeah I’m just asking if I’m gonna get flicked on the head like I’m playing champion rank siege

[noble pasture]

ah no, but enemy AI still gives zero shits about RoE

[wintry fractal]

so keep my no crack for you mod on

[noble pasture]

yelling for compliance is an active nerf

[wintry fractal]

got it

no crack feels much more appropriate for the game tbh

[noble pasture]

enemy AI while not cracked aim anymore

fights like the Japanese in WW2

Banzai or death

[stone bay]

What does RoE mean btw?

[noble pasture]

Rules of Engagement

Police has to announce their presence, yell for compliance

Suspects only need to full auto in that direction

[stone bay]

So they pretty much don't care for yell for compliance anymore, they'll shoot anyone the second they spot them?

[noble pasture]

might hesitate

but thats rare, people who dug through the files saw that 1.0 suspect AI had their morale increased if you had used flashbangs

[prime wing]

Depends. They can look as if they are going to shoot but if they comply and you kill them, you will be penalized

[stone bay]

Eh? So they don't surrender anymore with flashbangs?

[noble pasture]

its unclear, they surrender for me

[vocal night]

is there a reliable way to identify qadamah?

[shy tulip]

He will have a gun

[stone bay]

If I'm not wrong, he's the one wearing a beanie-

[vocal night]

nobody else wears beanies?

that should work

[stone bay]

IF

I might be super hyper duper wrong, but if my memory doesn't fail me, he's the one with the beanie

[vocal night]

well anyone with a beanie gets to live then

[winter orbit]

He never wears a mask
All the others have some manner of mask on
That is my identifier for him

[restive summit]

Hey just wondering about mods, it seems like I cannot do any action in the "mods" menu included in ready or not

cant subscribe and stuff, anyone has an idea if its me or anything?

[shy tulip]

It depends what it is saying, it may have bugged and you already have that mod installed, it will not say "mod installed", and unsubbing doesn't delete the mod from your files.

[restive summit]

It says "subscription failed" and I cannot upvote or even downvote any mod, also im on an unmodded game, and deleted every modded file

"rating permission failed", "subscription failed" and my collection is empty too

[noble pasture]

So Prescott survived The Spider using a shield and not getting hit

My AI could get a shield and get shot only in their knees

Is it me or suspect AI keeps aiming for limbs?

First gunfight and I have both arms bleeding red

[restive summit]

Bullets can "shatter" your bulletproof vest and send shards, might be that hitting your limbs

I cant remember if there is ricochet in the game too but could be that

[noble pasture]

I run Ceramic

Any bullets that hit armor are stuck there

[restive summit]

damn idk then

[shy tulip]

Your limbs are also infront of your character (arms)

Bullets can go through your limbs and hit your chest, depending on the round

[gloomy crow]

Try the "Artery" mod....

[restive summit]

@shy tulip btw I fixed the issue, just had to logout and log back in for some reason :)

[crude prism]

There is no visual indication on the paperdoll about shots that hit your torso unless you take damage.

Ceramic takes no damage until it breaks (can sometimes be more than 13 shots).

Meanwhile the paperdoll will show the first hit to any limb. Basically just bias from misleading visual information

[carmine zinc]

Anyone having trouble with MP7 mags?

[shy tulip]

What's wrong with em

[carmine zinc]

when I use the MP7 I don't get bullets in mags

[maiden galleon]

Is the RoN soundtrack available on spotify or something?

[night pasture]

later yes but not now

[edgy linden]

When do we get the FLASH LAUNCHER

I missed having itttttt

https://tenor.com/view/crying-cat-sad-cat-me-when-i-dont-get-orod-tickets-gif-13399313231964052110

[shy tulip]

We already have a flash launcher

Just not the rotary

[prime wing]

i think the rotary one just broke the game

[edgy linden]

Gernade launcher primary my beloved

It was an abusive relationship of killing me randomly, but I was okay.

[visual mortar]

check your loadout and ammo

[carmine zinc]

when I do that it doesn't let me add primary ammol, even if I have enough space for mags

[pine sluice]

what shotgun shoots peoples head offs

[stone bay]

all of them

[blissful jungle]

So Im thinking of getting back into the game although I haven't played since before 1.0.

[novel sparrow]

the game has changed A LOT

[acoustic ridge]

is it just me or are suspects unable to shoot accurately when using a civillian as a shield

[shy tulip]

Kinda makes sense

[ocean halo]

I've completed the campaign. I remember seeing somewhere where you can select any map, and choose a mode like hostage rescue, barricaded suspects, ect for each map. But I don't see that, was it removed?

[shy tulip]

Removed

[ocean halo]

Okay, thank you

[jolly verge]

yeap, their accuracy is worse when taking civi as shield

[sharp perch]

hey

does anyoen know why

some achievements just dont unlock, like im halfway through all S rank mission with friends

But i only have the OG achievement from when the game was first accessible on steam

[shy tulip]

MP is not eligible for achievements atm

[raven estuary]

^

[sharp perch]

ah ok

[sharp perch]

will it be a feature eventually?

[jolly verge]

not working achievements in mp is a known issue and supposed to be fixed in next update i guess #❗known-issues-and-fixes message

[glad brook]

Is 23 megabytes a second a swatting gone wrong because from what I see is that the brother isn't being held hostage and isn't that woman next door his mum?

[formal steeple]

I heard RoN went to Unreal Engine 5... True?

[formal steeple]

the gameplay might not include the cinematic style trailers... Only suspects near a civilian or POI will grab a hostage

[glad brook]

Next update

[glad brook]

I don't think you understand what I meant

[formal steeple]

The way the game works isn't what is in the cinematic

[glad brook]

In the briefing it says he killed his mum and has his brother hostage but when you get there the bother isn't tied up and says "what are you doing to my brother" or something like that and there's a woman in the other apartment which looks like she could be the mum and there's no body anywhere

[formal steeple]

Good point i only played it once. i just play it for the challenege, didn't even pay attention to who was in the briefing if i didn't find them but completed the Mission.

[formal steeple]

"We are committed to making our SDK a reality and carrying out the complex work that the project will demand." - VOID (What i was hoping for, Bounties on SDK Tools already being fulfilled)

[glad brook]

Maybe it's unreal 5 rn

[formal steeple]

No the 4.27 Custom Maps i've made still run on this release.

[noble pasture]

Use AP rounds?

[lost inlet]

👍

[covert aurora]

In short yes its basicly a swatting, tho it ends up going from 0 to 100 real quick

[glad brook]

That's all you had to say

[noble pasture]

Is the 4 star officer a chief?

He looks old, white hair and hangs around in a vest

-my bots kill a civie cause they got shit for code
-also my bots: anxious

[upbeat heath]

usually when a cop accidentaly shoots and nearly kills a bystander they might have anxiety

[noble pasture]

Why not code them to go for headshots?

They straight up shoot through human shields

[upbeat heath]

that would delay the next update too much

propably gets coded liek that after the next update

[formal steeple]

Go Practice and use GunFighter Gameplay

[noble pasture]

AI sees someone being held hostage at gun point
"What hostage?"

and colateral both hostage and suspect

[upbeat heath]

artificial intelligence isnt supposed to be so smart

if it was there would be no humans in 5 years

[noble pasture]

Have it recognise the special event "Suspect holds hostage" in code and then aim for the head

Anyway I think I got the pulse on managing stress levels

Anxious: put on the bench to relax
Stressed: therapy
Crisis: therapy

If lucky Anxious can go after 1 mission vacation

Might need 2

[prime mural]

Or just arrest some delinquents at the gas station

[frail quartz]

Ermm, center mass much? ☝️ 🤓

[noble pasture]

Through the Civilian?

[frail quartz]

Oh, are we talking about hostage taking?

[noble pasture]

Yes

AI killed a civie because a suspect took them hostage

It only ever happens when I try a ironman run

[native rune]

You’re equating FPS ai targeting a specific region of a model with the annihilation of the human race within a decade?

[upbeat heath]

i dunno

[gaunt gale]

Hyperbolic association as a descriptor was a mistake

[crude prism]

did u guys know that coding good AI in bideo games is actually just training US military killing drones

[crude prism]

what sort of clueless dissociation would cause someone to create that

[prime wing]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zq6fBkinjZc

[shy tulip]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-thousand-yard-stare-thousand-yard-stare-cat-ptsd-cat-soldier-cat-war-gif-9110270742088459827

[shy tulip]

there are so many levels to this song

[gaunt gale]

Bruh what

[crude prism]

please post this so that the thumbnail shows up

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/-tH2AGuHDoo?feature=share

classic cringe

[raven estuary]

What determines when a bot unlocks a trait? Seems to be related to completed missions but... what determines how many need to be completed?

[shy tulip]

I think it might be random, dunno

How many missions need to be completed, I mean

[glacial solar]

the ai on port hokan is so fucking dumb and annoying

i just got shot through a wall and my officers dont enter a door unless i SPAM the move in and clear command

im loosing it 😭

[crude prism]

Two completed missions, only one officer can unlock a trait at the end of every mission

[raven estuary]

Yeah... I noticed the part where only one officer unlocks a trait each mission

So at the end of the second mission, each officer starts unlocking their trait with each mission completed including the second one

Got that right?

Or is it every two missions?

[crude prism]

They just have to complete two I believe, so it should be 5 missions to unlock for four guys

[shy tulip]

Doesn't the tablet have a little number on the officers profile showing that

[raven estuary]

Got it, cheers!

[stone bay]

Is there any way of fixing swat ai pathfinding

They keep getting stuck on the stairs on sulveins hope and wont go down them no matter the command

even if I go down and ask them to regroup on me they dont

[drifting sand]

Is Ides of March bugged?

Seems like you can only ever start in one location, regardless of the entry point you pick

[native rune]

Yes

[crude prism]

1.0 btw, 8 months after 1.0 btw

[frail pier]

Ahh the C L A S S I C

[prime wing]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/-tH2AGuHDoo?feature=share

@crude prism

[crude prism]

I hope seeing that makes someone turn inside out because man it's so good

[frail pier]

Ahh I thought that was the other version that'll probably get you muted if you posted.

[turbid pawn]

We have a date and a price for the next dlc ?

[stone bay]

[noble pasture]

Ironman recommended loadout?

Not a single officer has permission to die

[turbid pawn]

we have a price ?

[noble pasture]

You know what Soon means?

[turbid pawn]

we have a price ?

[stone bay]

Nope

[turbid pawn]

ok thanks

[noble pasture]

So my problem is I need to keep suspects alive as for my officers to not quit

[frail pier]

Spring/summer 2024 I thought

[noble pasture]

SA58 is off the table

[frail pier]

No its not

Did mine with it

[noble pasture]

It kills suspects, thats bad

[frail pier]

You can either try to not kill anyone or kill everyone on a mission then do gas station non lethal to make your guys fine again instead of therapy

[jolly verge]

you have traits, use them

[frail pier]

That too^

[jolly verge]

the most op is 2 negotiators for 50% surrender chance from yell

[frail pier]

All my runs were non lethal. SA58 Only kills if limb causes arterial bleeding, 2 shot chest or headshot. If you shoot them once in the chest it'll be just an incap and not death.

[jolly verge]

incaping/killing suspects will hurt stress as well

does not matter

[frail pier]

That's why you do gas station non lethal to bring it back to normal

It's faster to do it that way.

[noble pasture]

I killed a meth head with 1 JHP to the chest

[jolly verge]

Arresting 1 suspect alive will offset 1 or 2 killed/incaped suspects, but only if YOU kill them and not your teammate

[frail pier]

Why use JHP?

[jolly verge]

sa58 AP oneshot on 12/18 maps

[noble pasture]

That JHP wasnt even stopping, hit a pole behind him

[frail pier]

What maps does it not one shot?

Because it one shots l4 armor lol

[jolly verge]

any where suspects have at least 200 health

maximum damage from JHP is 180

[frail pier]

Why are we using JHP

[jolly verge]

to not overpen wall and kill civi

it's wont pen only level 4 armor

which is only on 3 maps, i would say 2

[noble pasture]

Even then, a 7.62 hitting you in the armor is equivalent of getting Mike Tyson'ed

At least 1 cracked rib

[jolly verge]

it's does 100% stun any armored suspect in game

[frail pier]

Don't use JHP.... let me pull the spreadsheet out. AP is one shot doesn't matter which suspect it is or armor they're wearing.

[noble pasture]

I have killed a suspect 2 rooms over with AP

[frail pier]

Spamming shots?

[jolly verge]

AP is fine too yes, but you can use JHP on 15/18 maps just fine

[noble pasture]

2 shots

Put down my intended target, then found a dead suspect 30 seconds later

[frail pier]

Lmaoo

I don't ever have that problem. Maybe a couple times but that's it.

[noble pasture]

Also skulls dont make good bullet stoppers

[frail pier]

Usually it's one shot, onto the next guy

[noble pasture]

Even in JHP, shot a guy in the head and accidentally killed a civie behind him

[frail pier]

Watch crossfire idk

[noble pasture]

How would I know a .356 would overpen in JHP?

[frail pier]

Can't post pics in here wtf

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/0/d/1d89lpFDA9lo_v13iBlnhtuA6DvuUnKfPaeo0d4RBGJ4/htmlview#

[jolly verge]

you can post them in media

[stone bay]

#🎨ron-screenshots-and-art

[frail pier]

Well there anyone can view that. But yeh AP will always incap on chest 1st shot. JHP 2 shot because they had L4 on.

[jolly verge]

it's wont always incap on 1 shot

[frail pier]

On chest?

[jolly verge]

AP is 160 damage, only regular suspects will fall incap

who haves 320 health

[frail pier]

Let me grab you this because I believe you're missing a small detail

One sec

[jolly verge]

start gas station with AP and try oneshot any suspect with torso shot

you will need 2 shot to incap

there are 6 maps where AP wont oneshot at torso

[frail pier]

I have the WR run for that map and one shot them all with AP???

[jolly verge]

only JHP can oneshot suspects on gas

just try it out and you will see

[frail pier]

Suspects incap after losing 50% of their total health.

[jolly verge]

yeap

and they have 360

on gas

360-160 = 200

which is not incap

[frail pier]

They have 180 health lol

[jolly verge]

but with JHP it will do the trick

[jolly verge]

incap health, their full health is 360

[frail pier]

Lemme grab clip

Disregard you're correct. I slowed it down and yeh I double tapped the dude instead of single. I thought those first 2 kills were single.

So it's only 3 missions that have that issue.... why on gas station though I don't get.

But everywhere else yeh one shot

[jolly verge]

only on 12/18 maps you can oneshot with AP ammo

on gas station with JHP

[frail pier]

Look at rifle damage on that link I sent

It's only 3 missions

Dudes on gas station don't have armor but we're on meth so makes sense I guess..

[jolly verge]

there are 6 maps with modified suspects health

does not matter if they have armor or not, AP fully ignore all of them

[frail pier]

Which other maps is it then?

[jolly verge]

JHP pen up to L3A, wont pen 4 tho

[frail pier]

Yeh 5 shots or some shit for it

For 20 round mag rather take AP lol

[jolly verge]

gas, ides of march, elephant, sins of the father, relapse and lethal obsession

[frail pier]

Where'd you get this info?

[jolly verge]

from this spreadsheet as well

and from game as well

[frail pier]

But where on that spreadsheet says that?

Because it only listed those 3

As having higher shots to incap

[jolly verge]

map info, rifle/pistol/smg/shotgun dmg tabs

[frail pier]

Why is this so inconsistent

Thank you for opening my eyes to this though.

I dummy

One shot except certain maps because drugs or other goober shit

Quadamah gets one shot though with l4 unless I'm just hitting him in the head everytime?

[jolly verge]

just because of more health, that pretty much the only reason you wont oneshot with 7.62x51

[jolly verge]

yeap, suspects on club have regular 320 health, you good with AP

[frail pier]

Wild inconsistency imo

[jolly verge]

only him wearing L4 on this map

others l3a

[frail pier]

Who's tougher 4 guys on meth with no armor or a dude with l4 plates...

That's what I'm saying lol. More health is just wilddddd

[jolly verge]

another funny thing, you cant kill suspects on maps with health modifier with headshot from 7.62x51
AP, it's only x2 damage

it's will incap

same for you, you will be alive after that

[frail pier]

So I guess that makes a different rifle better on those levels specifically. So that's where the SA58 would fall off

You're gaining an extra 10 rounds with the same amount of rounds to incap. So an extra 5 people you can drop.

Without reloading and not missing compared to 7.62.51

[bright rapids]

Ready or not actually saved me from kms

ama

[jolly verge]

yeap, .300 would be better

[frail pier]

Animation cancel to make it worth to use for speedrunning

They have the longest set up times I swear. Everything except the GA416

But honestly prefer the g36 if I were to switch rifles. It doesn't move even if you're spamming shots.

[noble pasture]

Excuse me, I land a headshot and the suspect will shrug it off?

[frail pier]

It'll incap but not kill

Still learning new shit in this game lol. Even if it doesn't make a bit of fucking sense.

[noble pasture]

Would bullet holes nullify insurance?

I think I lit up like 10 cars of "Car sales map"

[winter orbit]

Act of SWAT

[noble pasture]

So covered by the state?

[winter orbit]

That'd be my guess aye

[noble pasture]

Let's say a suspect dies, do they get processed by the morgue?

[frail pier]

I would think

Cause of death: Blunt force trauma from a bullet

[noble pasture]

My issue is a lot of suspects still resist

[frail pier]

Bruh half the time I see dudes just throwing their gun in the middle of a fight to give up. I rarely see them resist

Honestly wish they would more.

[noble pasture]

For me they resist like the japanese in 1945

[shy tulip]

They'd still have to do the whole processing of the body showing what killed them in the event they had to go to court

[noble pasture]

I ended 3 missions back to back on B rank with no penalties

[noble pasture]

3 5.56 at point blank range because they charged an officer

Why are RoN verse suspects so eager to die?

[stone bay]

Meth

anyone know of a mod to disable the objective completion notifications?

[noble pasture]

Arrested 6 meth addicts on the raid

[stone bay]

paticularly the bring order to the chaos one. bit of a vibe killer knowing that theres no threat left halfway through the mission

[noble pasture]

Ingame option

But doesn't stop you from physically checking you phone ingame

[frail pier]

F3

[frail quartz]

If I lived in Los Suenos, I wouldn't have much will to live either

[winter orbit]

this is real

[river tide]

unlike gta just don’t commit crimes or leave your house

or you can walk outside just don’t go to buildings besides your house and make sure it isn’t a meth house

[native rune]

You could just not check the tablet, especially since it disables sight zoom for the rest of the match if you do

[frail pier]

Does it actually wtf