👮ron-discussion

[sudden marsh]

Gamebreaking or not there still issues that have been here for a long ass time

Hardworking? Oh forgive me for asking for a polished experience

Wanna know who else worked hard? Starfield and gollum devs

[tender heath]

Compare it to most other games and it is polished yea (I get this isnt really an excuse if those games are super buggy and i get what your saying but they are working hard) Name all the bugs you're thinking of?

[sudden marsh]

Literally every issue in the game.
Im not gonna write a whole hearted list

[tender heath]

well personally i liked starfield but alright and difference is they didnt have enough time because of dickheads like you

[river tide]

play gta and say they’re bad devs, insane amount of bugs but they still came out with a great game like rdr2

[tender heath]

Ok but what issues because I know of 2.

[tender heath]

uhh that is not really comparable Rockstar games is a multi-billion dollar company.

[river tide]

yes it is

[sudden marsh]

Stupidly dumb swat AI and void said they tested them yet stilll have the same issues

Zero shader precaching and months without it

[river tide]

and it’s not like void interactive is broke

[sudden marsh]

The game did sell well the most simplest solution seems like an impossible one to them

[river tide]

who needs ai reworks when modders do it for them

[tender heath]

I mean no but they dont have the resources and expertise built up over decades like Rockstar

[river tide]

that wasn’t the point

the point was that gta had bugs but they weren’t bad devs

[tender heath]

plus Void is 1 studio probably made up of a couple dozen people compared to rockstar which has hundreds of employees

[river tide]

buddy that’s not what i’m saying 💀

[tender heath]

well yea i agree but that doesnt excuse that either

[sudden marsh]

"Expertise" why bother working on a big spiritual successor project over a popular game and genre, they shouldve known it was gonna be big

[tender heath]

What?

[twilit robin]

was the F90 buffed, Id argue it feels like one of the best rifes in the game now

[tender heath]

I was more talking about the fact how Rockstars devs know how to create that kind of game really well (from decades of experience) and how they have created an entire game engine specialized in third-person open world shooters

[river tide]

so you’re saying ready or not has bad devs?

you just proved your own point wrong

[tender heath]

No im saying Ready or Not devs have not been working on this kind of game in the industry for 20+ years

[stone bay]

what does that matter

[tender heath]

what the fuck do you mean what does it matter

[stone bay]

what does it matter

[tender heath]

If you know what you are doing you can do it better.

[sudden marsh]

20 years or not they can learn in like less than 20

[stone bay]

so?

no one cares how experienced someone is, people only care about results

if a dev team with decades of experience makes a shit game everyone calls it shit

if a new dev team makes a good game people love it

look at diablo 4

and stardew valley

[river tide]

or like we said, gta

[sudden marsh]

VOID also set themselves up by making big ass promises and yet 1.0 came underdelivered

[sudden marsh]

So you're saying VOID are clueless devs? Like i said in my original post

[river tide]

he just contradicted his own point 😂

[stone bay]

gta doesn't really apply in my example because it a good game made by an experienced team
daiblo 4 is a shit game made by an experienced team and stardew valley is a good game made by a single developer

[river tide]

to be fair, it’s like diablo, good team but shit game and shittier updates

gta is a great game but it was nothing like 4, besides the graphics and map sizes, and a few other things, gta 4 was better

[stone bay]

gta was beloved when it came out

[river tide]

true but the updates were so bad

[stone bay]

idk if that's the popular opinion, it's still one of the most bought games

[sudden marsh]

Storymode was left in the gutter with no updates theres so much potiential

[river tide]

one of the most bought games, it’s great but the updates made it die especially on pc with online modders

[river tide]

100%

[stone bay]

it's not dead... at all

right now it's #42 in steams top selling chart

[river tide]

online took a steep down fall mainly on pc i’m referring to

[stone bay]

steam is the pc platform 😂

[river tide]

i’m aware

[stone bay]

so it's clearly not dead on pc

[river tide]

don’t think i’ve ever used steam on xbox

[river tide]

i said it took a downfall not dead

[stone bay]

[river tide]

i said the updates were making it die

[stone bay]

no you said made it die, past tense

[tender heath]

"made it die especially on pc"

[river tide]

the point is that gta barely makes good updates that fix bugs

[stone bay]

again that's apparently not the popular opinion

[river tide]

yes it is it was more popular beforehand

[tender heath]

I dont know I feel like bug fixing is like the one thing they actually do

[river tide]

plus almost everyone in online doesn’t play legit most just mod money

[tender heath]

They dont make great content anymore and they dont remove modders but they do fix bugs

[stone bay]

it's also a 10+ year old game, the lowering in popularity can't be attributed to updates

[sudden marsh]

When was the last good update for gta 5 if were being honest

[tender heath]

Its a loud minority imo

[tender heath]

Cayo Perico

[river tide]

there’s been many bugs in the game since release. can’t think of any top of my head but yk

[river tide]

💀

diamond casino update was great

[tender heath]

I enjoyed Cayo Perico and I know many people have I would say that constitutes a good update

[river tide]

have you done it over 50 times?

[tender heath]

hundreds

of times

[river tide]

sounds like a fun life

[tender heath]

Well not really it was over the period of like 3 weeks

[river tide]

exactly my point

no point of grinding money in it when everyone mods it in

[tender heath]

Why?

I enjoyed grinding it isnt that the point?

[river tide]

because why waste your time when nobody else has to

[river tide]

you did not enjoy doing hundreds of cayo setups

[tender heath]

No but I did enjoy the jokes and random shenanigans me and my friends got upto while doing them, and the fun ways we did the heist many times

[tender heath]

Why get good at a first person shooter when you can buy a cheat menu?

[river tide]

so you click of just fucked around say with a mk1 and had more fun

[stone bay]

lmao go look at the players chart for gta v on steamdb.... it still has 36% active players from it's peak 9 years ago

not dead or dying in the slightest

[river tide]

if more than half the player base is cheating then what’s the point

[tender heath]

Because I enjoyed the journey

[river tide]

only people that play are ogs and most of them have mod menus

[stone bay]

you also have no data to back up that claim, it's pure anecdote

[tender heath]

exactly

[river tide]

go into a public game in online go kill some people

[tender heath]

that too even though its probably true

[stone bay]

lmao that's anecdote

[river tide]

and you’ll get your computer shutdown, crashed, or blue screened

[tender heath]

Loud Minority not a majority of players imo

[river tide]

there’s a modder in every session that’s not overreacting

[tender heath]

Plus most players play private lobbies

[river tide]

what’s fun in that though

[stone bay]

lmao

excuses excuses

[tender heath]

you're style of making arguments is... perplexing

[river tide]

if you’re unable to play public lobbies because you’re scared you’re gonna be crashed by a modder is just sad

[stone bay]

he's just trying to justify his opinion

[tender heath]

yea

[river tide]

go test it go into a public session

[tender heath]

Or maybe you just dont like being disturbed by normal players

[stone bay]

again, anecdote

[tender heath]

thats not a majority of players though

[river tide]

the security flaws in public lobbies too, modders can read out your ip and city

[tender heath]

1 modder in every 18 player session

[stone bay]

I usually only play in a solo lobby or private lobby with friends cuz I don't like randos running around causing mayhem which they can do even without cheats

[river tide]

1/18 is cheating that’s a lot for a game more than 5%

[tender heath]

Oh no people will find out I live in X country, thats basically the same as my address

[stone bay]

also a lot less than the half you claimed

[tender heath]

Yea but less than what your saying

Less than "Most"

[river tide]

are you saying you wouldn’t care if that happened

do you not care if a modder decides to blue screen your computer because you looked at him weirdly?

[tender heath]

Im saying its not that big of a deal, IPs are not exact

[stone bay]

gta v has actually been steadily growing in active players on PC since 2016

[tender heath]

From memory they fixed those huge vulnerabilities, they cannot bluescreen your pc

[river tide]

i’d rather them not know my state and city

[tender heath]

ahh

[river tide]

happened twice to me when i killed a modder

[tender heath]

american got it, explains it all

[river tide]

what’s wrong with being american

are you trying to judge my nationality for losing an argument?

[tender heath]

immediately invalidates all your opinions in my mind personally unless im given a reason to think otherwise

[river tide]

that’s such a good argument

[sudden marsh]

Bringing xenophobia as a comeback? Yikes

[tender heath]

Its not xenophobia lmao

[river tide]

yes it is tf

[tender heath]

its the fact that americans are generally more ignorant

and yea that is an anecdote

[river tide]

you mean the same people who invented a lot of stuff including getting the first man on the moon?

[tender heath]

but its one that i have seen backed up many times

[river tide]

maybe because we have the third biggest population

[sudden marsh]

Its an Ad hominem fallacy tho
Him being american is not even relevant to the argument

[river tide]

and if you go to india and china, im sure you wouldn’t make them look dumb

[tender heath]

HAHA You cant take credit for the moon landing, Yes americans did that but you did not

[river tide]

i never said i did it tf

[tender heath]

Correct

[sudden marsh]

Theres 0 reason to bring it up then

[river tide]

japanese used to be xenophobic to americans then so why is it bad now?

[tender heath]

I normally think about it on a case by case basis however its normally guilty unless proven innocent in my eyes

[river tide]

ah you believe guilty until innocent, legit everything you said means nothing now

mind me asking what country are you from?

[tender heath]

I do not believe Guilty until innocent in every example

[tender heath]

Sadly new zealand, 4th world country we dont even shoot eachother from looking at eachother funny

[river tide]

give an example where you do

[river tide]

what’s wrong with new zealand

besides it being far it’s a great country with huge quality of life

[tender heath]

I dont know maybe in any circumstance where its not a meaningless argument on the internet LMAO

[river tide]

neither of us committed a crime though so what are you talking about

[tender heath]

Government raising cost of living even further than it already is

[river tide]

a lot of countries are doing that

[tender heath]

Natives trying to control the government to release all natives from prison

[river tide]

what country would you say great in your opinion

[tender heath]

and... children admirers getting 6 years in prison even after doing much more than admiring

[tender heath]

Not entirely sure but I know it aint this one

Probably something in scandinavia, they seem like good folk

[river tide]

that’s not a country

[sudden marsh]

Norway or finland

[tender heath]

Thats why i said SOMETHING in scandinavia

Countries are in scandinavia

[river tide]

they aren’t bad but they have their own issues good quality of life though especially norway

[tender heath]

EXACTLY!

Both scandinavian countries

i know that because im not completely geographically ignorant

[river tide]

i would say the greatest countries are the states, germany, uk, france, brazil, south africa, india, and australia

[sudden marsh]

France? Brazil? Some hot takes

[river tide]

france has one the biggest tourist rates in the world for a reason

[sudden marsh]

To visit the effiel tower but its hell ve visited it many times outside paris

[tender heath]

Australia doesnt that have terrible gambling and drug problems, and tons of corruption (I mean every country does but Ive heard AU has a it real bad)

[tender heath]

I want to go to paris but not for the eiffel tower

[river tide]

food there is so unhealthy but so good

[tender heath]

i wanna go to chateau de versailles

and place de la revolution i think its called

[strange nacelle]

The only issue norway has is that it's boring as hell

and we dont go to war i wanna kill

joking. war is not fun

[covert wing]

Any method to buy supporter edition now?

[stone bay]

no

[velvet sierra]

is the gunfighter mod still good in 1.0?

[quick raptor]

I haven't played in a couple of months is the ai still on crack?

[quick meadow]

I would say no

[quick raptor]

well that's nice I might actually get on again

[sudden marsh]

Sorta lol

you still need AI Mods and they beam you from far away

[quick raptor]

do you have any recommendations for the mods?

[sudden marsh]

Swat team and suspect AI overhaul i think its called

[prime wing]

If you dont try for youself how are you going to know?

Going off from what other people have to say and not having an experience of your own is just not an enjoyable experience, at least to see the current state if it has changed or not

It seems like you already dont want to play

I dont know whats the point

[sudden marsh]

Yeah youre better off trying to see if the AI is suitable since most of the issues are gone tho its a diamond in the rough realisticallyy

[raven schooner]

AI feels better than 1.0 for me, been playing with vanilla suspect ai and dying/losing officers alot less

[uncut cliff]

have yall got the dude who is just sitting in the corner and reading the bible and stuff

[sudden marsh]

VOID won't do anything about it don't bother asking sadly

[uncut cliff]

crazy

[median shadow]

i hope they add more achievements to the game, just for the sake of giving the player something to do --- you can never have TOO many

[misty island]

Game is still shit.

[amber dock]

Play it to see

Some people say it's too hard, I've seen people say it's too easy as well.

[prime wing]

Hot take

[amber dock]

truly a hot take

[clear rapids]

AI is pretty easy now but I've been using different TTPs while playing, so I don't know if it's just that I've gotten better or not

Just play the game ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[slender fog]

how do i play mods ive subscribed to via the ingame mod thing

[proven blade]

Fun Fact: If you have the dispatch station unlocked, you can see a vending machine inside. It is intractable and you can select what you would like to drink. It even has its own animations for drinking out of the cup!

[regal saffron]

hard to find room ☹️ it away say failed to find server with acceptable ping

how to fix it

[tropic kettle]

why does the beanbag kill at close distance

i thought the whole point was non leathel?

[stone bay]

Blunt force trauma

[lost inlet]

its less lethal not nonlethal

dev coded headshot with bean bag cause instant kill, even though every pistol in this game cant one shot kill anymore beside the 357 magnum and sometimes rifle

[stone bay]

It can if you aim for the head.

[lost inlet]

every pistol thats not 357 magnum can only incap not kill when shot in the head

[stone bay]

I’ve been getting headshot kills with the USP

[lost inlet]

you have mods change the damage?

[stone bay]

I pack armor piercing rounds, so that may be it.

[lost inlet]

jhp deal more dmg than ap

maybe you double tap them

they only have like 20 hp left after you put 1 round of 45acp inside their head

ap shitty limb multiplier can still kill them

[sacred sonnet]

Hey, is there anyway to increase the brightness for the loadout menu? My dude’s just a silhouette.

[amber dock]

loadout menu moment

[sacred sonnet]

Yea, is there anyway to change it or is it just stuck that way?

[stable kernel]

Not currently

[lost inlet]

its stuck that way

[celest gull]

i have searched greased palms every inch yet still cant find that ONE SUSPECT MAN

[river tide]

did you check that one spot

[celest gull]

bro i check the large open space, check the office both top and bottom and every bathroom

[river tide]

is it the campaign

[celest gull]

i have every door open

[celest gull]

yep

[river tide]

“All teams, do a search and secure”

[celest gull]

how do i do that?

[acoustic ridge]

press middle nouse the 6

[true jungle]

This is the Friday with news, right?

I always forget ☠️

[sudden marsh]

I hope so i wanna see people tear void apart in the comment section

[true jungle]

Me too, I got popcorn this time 🍿

[sudden marsh]

Its at 3:30 est everytime for me so i set my alarm today lop

[limber steppe]

it better not be something like lip syncing again

[sudden marsh]

They usually always spotlight crap we dont care about in this state

And they have bootlickers in the comments thinking VOID are saints and get a pass because "indie devs"

[tacit gull]

Maybe we get another shoe newsletter

[muted star]

Any idea if it's possible to bind ADS zoom to a button?

[stone bay]

yea the keybind is in the settings isn't it?

[muted star]

There is for ADS but not for the zoom

[stone bay]

do you mean the secondary sight?

[muted star]

The ZOOM

in the graphic setting

Is there a way to make it toggle on/off with a bind

Though ini file or something

[stone bay]

no

maybe with something like cheat engine

[lost inlet]

nope

[muted star]

damn

[lost inlet]

it come with ads

[smoky skiff]

what do you guys think is the best swai ai specia/l qualifications

[lost inlet]

perks?

[native rune]

None of them play practice mode

[native rune]

If you hold tab to open the tablet, the ADS zoom is disabled for the rest of the level and it reverts back to how it was originally (no/minimal zoom when ADS)

[river tide]

sbags is pretty good

[velvet sierra]

does this game plan to add more breaching points instead of just doors and gates?

like maybe windows, skylights, balconies, hell even blowing open walls

[hearty olive]

sbags good but stuff that affect morale are my go-to

like breacher, negotiator, pacificer etc

alright but real talk, what tattoos do yall use

[native rune]

Hard to say, windows are hardly even functional in the game, most are impossible to see through, still have collision when broken, and suspects don’t utilize them except for specific ones like postal.

[tacit gull]

They did express interest in more breaching but nothing is certain

[lost inlet]

fan service or the anime one

[hearty olive]

same, it's the best

[lost inlet]

[velvet sierra]

why cant i see my hands on modded maps?

[prime wing]

Depends what map

May be broken

[velvet sierra]

Only started happening post 1.0 and from what I see online this issue has went on since 1.0 was released

Surprised they haven’t put any effort in to fix it yet

[prime wing]

Im asking you what map

[velvet sierra]

Apartment of horrors and metro station

[prime wing]

When were they last updated

If they are not up to date with the current update, then likely they are broken and authors have not updated it

[velvet sierra]

oh alr thanks

[prime wing]

Best way to check is the last updated date

[hearty olive]

happens to me too

[gleaming fable]

man, void really cooked with the games soundtrack.

Ends of the earth ost had me like

[hearty olive]

my favorite is honestly gas station ost

[gleaming fable]

thats nice too.

[amber dock]

Zack is an epic sound designer and musician

rotisserie chicken and watermelons fear him.

and cabbage

[random perch]

what

[wooden glacier]

what

[hearty olive]

fuck them fruits

[umbral oar]

whenever i shot someones limb off i listen for the chicken

[hearty olive]

civilian limbs in ron when you shotgun them

and suspects but that's less cool

[hearty olive]

rules of engagement?! i call that a checklist

[stone bay]

the geneva checklist

[patent path]

I’m trying to S rank all the missions, first went through in commander mode and have 16/18. Now went back and replayed in practice mode, can I get progress towards the “all S model achievement in practice mode or only in campaign mode?

[stone bay]

I believe you can do it in practice mode

[hearty olive]

yeah

hold on ill test it

[hearty olive]

just tested, it does work

[patent path]

Ok thanks. I’ll give the other two I have left a try and hopefully those count as S runs for the achievement

[hearty olive]

they do count

[stark flame]

Hi i got a problem, I have completed all levels in commander mode with no mods but the swat 99 gear is still not unlocked, anyone got a fix?

[native rune]

Get a mod that unlocks the customizables, problem solved

[stark flame]

Yeah but if u get one u can only play on modded servers, and its quite hard to find a lobby in there

[hearty olive]

that is true, but earning it yourself definetly feels better

[stark flame]

that too

[gleaming fable]

i unlocked what i could then used an unlocker.

[stone bay]

Same

[median shadow]

no Armor in RON is lit

gonna try some low difficulty mods + no armor

[median shadow]

cracked but sweet overdose

[gleaming fable]

bro playing hardcore mode

[median shadow]

its not that bad

excessive wedge+c2+CS makes the game a lot easier and they have more inventory slots now

[quasi blade]

I love playing with the crack mod it's great

[sleek topaz]

Looking for a few mods here for : Faster movement speed for room clearing and High ready (I'm not sure if the current one is working)

[frail quartz]

High ready is a vanilla feature now

You can enable it in the gameplay settings

[quasi blade]

Dude I love being rushed by a fuck ton of meth heads with my shotty

I'd like to see a like "zombies mode" sort of mod where there is just a fuck load of suspects that all charge you with knives and you gotta grab the one civvy hidden somewhere

[little hatch]

There are mods that do this exact thing!

[quasi blade]

[little hatch]

Zombies Or Not (on Nexus) is what I use

[gleaming fable]

i too love turning suspects into .rar with the shotgun. iykwim

[quasi blade]

It's just so fun like what the hell

Shooting a dude and just hearing him still screaming in the next room is just

[opal basin]

anyone got tips for post office? im stuck there

not s just regular

[quasi blade]

Don't push the sorting centre, save it for last

[opal basin]

wheres that

the inside mostly looks the same

lol i just died on it

[opal basin]

but like wheres the sorting center

[quasi blade]

The big sorting area

You got the store front, office, loading docks and sorting area

[opal basin]

is it the sort area or the bigger package distribution

sorry im stupid and dont understand too well

[sacred sonnet]

Bugger

[opal basin]

how do people get past greased palms

[clear rapids]

ill solo clear it rn and get back to you on where its difficult

haven't actually done greased before

[celest gull]

i hate greaseed with a passion bro i dont even see the ai but they see me and its always those last 2 suspect

i had to like fire and sent to therapy like 10 team members by now

[clear rapids]

yeah clearing it from the outside seems to be the best way to do it

just envelop the most you can i cleared ~90% with solo, its doable

[celest gull]

yea the outside is very easy its just most enemies camp near the fisa office and there is many cracks so they can just shoot you through it

[clear rapids]

mhm, taking your time is the big thing

[celest gull]

what loadout you used?

[clear rapids]

i run gunfighter but i could probably do without it and just go all ammo

[celest gull]

i had to use like 63flash for them and i still died

[clear rapids]

i use mk16 w/ AP, no flashes

[celest gull]

should i just use ceramic instead of steel tho? and just run armorer

[jolly verge]

ceramic with armorer is the best option right now

[median shadow]

got to Sinious Trail, now my ass is getting kicked

[median shadow]

conquored

[waxen grove]

Hmm times like this that make me wonder if Void has a Community manager …

I hate how they keep painting this picture of “we can ever talk to it or work on the game”

Just shows void didn’t change

Radio silence till the dlc

Then radio silence till dlc 2

Then radio silence till the next time they ask for more moneh

[lost inlet]

[waxen grove]

its not like the community is asking for much. Bug fixes, qol fixes and ai thats not bullshit.

[junior prawn]

Wow they added so much

I’m still gratr

[strong sonnet]

https://www.tiktok.com/@nightg23/video/7362176911927233797

[fair crane]

Why aren’t my ai teammates doing what I say? They’re just standing still and when I command to do something they don’t care

[tacit gull]

The AI is bugged, try asking them to fall in and redo

[fair crane]

Ah ok thank you it worked

[opal basin]

im using the other autoshotty, not the 1014. is that good for greased?

[jolly verge]

sure

[weak mirage]

just played my first actual mission (thanks come again) and im glad to see the game runs smoothly now

[opal basin]

would you reccomend an ar or shotgun for greased palsm

im just so fucking sick of greased already. i just wanna get past it

[jolly verge]

what ever you like, but for greased palms exactly take any ar with JHP ammo or buck on shotguns, suspects on this map don't wear any vests

or sa-58 with any ammo type, it's will tap torso on this map

[hybrid stream]

Just got my "Port S" and I missed it by 60 points in penalties because the ai ff each other with a single stinger on the last door I went through before the last enemy... Perfect example of how great the game is.

[glossy stirrup]

Ive been away for a while playing ready or not IRL is the game fixed yet?

[granite peak]

no but DLC soon 🤑🤑🤑💸

[glossy stirrup]

I thought as much lol

[fierce rain]

just did my first solo clearing am i cool now

[lost inlet]

which map did you clear?

[fierce rain]

modded map cqb training

no mirror no nades only my gun

im gonna try a vanilla map now

[sudden marsh]

lmfao to no ones surprise, it aint fixed

[median shadow]

i wish there was a way to host RON dedicated servers

(along with server browser to find them)

a lot of the optimization issues that cause problem with high AI character mods would be sidelined if you just had a seperate server handle the game logic

[fierce rain]

are my replays not working or can i just not see them? do i have to turn it on when i play match i just want to see my previous round

[jolly verge]

you need to turn in on every time you start the game

[fierce rain]

how does one turn it on

[molten coyote]

is there any mod that allows me to have more team members in single player?

[jolly verge]

options > gameplay > replays

[fierce rain]

thank

[hallow torrent]

you*

[fierce rain]

okay thank

[hallow torrent]

bruh

[lost inlet]

[stone bay]

i just realised all this time i had music volume set to 0%

turned it back to 100% and i feel like a james bond movie now

[hexed granite]

for better or worse, depending on preference

most of the music definitely takes me out of it. hearing the great sound design of the game is pretty much S tier, even for an indie studio

[stone bay]

my only complaint is that outdoor gunshots sound soooo much cooler than indoor

[hexed granite]

whys that?

[tacit gull]

I think they'll get better with that new reverb system

[stone bay]

idk they just sound so much better outdoors

[river tide]

also makes maps like twisted nerve way more scary

[timid wraith]

do less enemys actually hear you if you use subsonic ?

[river tide]

yes by a little

[hexed granite]

yeah. it's always been a running theme that having no music just makes a situation all the more tense

better than "oh music is playing, action is gonna start" or "oh music is stopping, ig im safe"

[median shadow]

am i just imaging it or does JHP have worse enviromental penetration than AP?

[vocal flint]

nah ur right

[river tide]

that would make sense

[median shadow]

okay

so another question, do enemies zero in on the player faster when they have a flashlight for non-IR laser sight?

i know that SWAT bots can just tank CS gas no problem but I'm not sure how much the game ignores or takes into account the existence of attachments

[stable kernel]

Laser does not matter, but enemies can react to a flashlight. I believe it is only voice lines, because they do not turn to face the source. But perhaps it makes them more alert or react faster, or something like that.

[median shadow]

well if it makes them more alert or react faster than that's the most important effect

[stable kernel]

That part is hidden in the scripting, but they do have a detect flashlight and forget flashlight options for the ai config. So I'm sure it does something.

[median shadow]

yeah id be willing to be money that flashlight and laser both set off the flashlight config option

[stable kernel]

The laser does not

[median shadow]

you'd think it would, at least partially

like be equivilent to 50% of the reaction time speed increase that happens when you use a flashlight

[sand girder]

💀 that would be kind of cracked

[untold beacon]

Is there a official game manual that ships with this game or am I stuck sifting through tons of reddit/discord/steam threads and youtube videos to figure out the intricacies of this game?

[acoustic ridge]

50 swat vs gas station

[sudden marsh]

not many games use manuals anymore besides a wiki

and this game is ran off indie devs so they last thing they could care about is a manual

though to be direct this game aint really that intricate

just take it slow, Q E lean, command your team well,
use breaches, wedges and opti-wands to your advantage
and many guns are viable anyways..

use chemlights to mark locations you went through already

[sharp fox]

all you need to know is left click and how to command your ai

[median shadow]

what are you having problems with?

[untold beacon]

I'm not having problems with anything. I suppose the answer is "no". Thanks for the unsolicited advice.

[median shadow]

maybe a youtube video would be helpful?

you can also just always ask if you need anything 🙂

[crude prism]

from all testing it seems it is not working as intended

afaik it's never actually worked

they "react" to lights with callouts but dont actually change behavior, reaction time, anything

[stable kernel]

I figured but I was hoping it did something. Typical VOID moment I suppose.

[sharp fox]

why is gerard scott making the things from stranger things in his basement

[stone bay]

[median shadow]

he's burying his secrets

[valid vapor]

Is that server that just blasts youtube content in the lobby gonna be taken down?

[stone bay]

Probably not

[valid vapor]

oof

[ionic gale]

I hate Gerard and his boyfriends

They’re making a chemical weapon in their moms basement and their bullets hert

That is if I can even get into the room without blowing myself up and turning the floor red

I feel bad for TEMs who have to scrape bits of me off the floor every time I get blown up by a wire

[stone bay]

Why is all of the glass in this game, from a commercial window to a vending machine pane, fucking bulletproof?

[lost inlet]

what you using?

[stone bay]

SA-58 and USP45

[lost inlet]

both jhp?

[stone bay]

Nope, I run AP rounds exclusively.

[lost inlet]

yikes

[stone bay]

I never know how much or what level of armor suspects might be packing, so I play it safe.

[lost inlet]

you new to the game right/

?

[stone bay]

I bought it when it hit 1.0, so sort of.

[lost inlet]

Here some info about the game to let you get the hang of it faster, credits to MMMM (O_O)
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1d89lpFDA9lo_v13iBlnhtuA6DvuUnKfPaeo0d4RBGJ4/edit#gid=695296307

[sharp fox]

think about yourself getting blown up before you open a door

always peek first

also dont think about those silly monsters gerard is making as well

[compact sequoia]

has anyone ever actually struggled to follow the roe? i feel like it's pretty loose for me and i have basically never violated it outside of intentional violation and stray round hitting a civ

[stone stump]

some people did, yeah. no idea how tho, as they would have to shoot a clearly surrendered suspect (and wait some time, because there's a delay between RoE starts to actually work)

[pearl shuttle]

Honestly if you like this game you're a fucking loser and responsible for the poor state of this industry

[lost inlet]

yooo calm down there bud

[pearl shuttle]

Another VOID sycophant smh ^

[lost inlet]

nah ready or not frustrate me way more than me enjoying the game

[patent radish]

every single lobby that I get in is having stutters while I'm walking not fps or anything. idk if its lag even if it is its in every single damn lobby is it something common or do I gotta do something to fix it?

[jolly verge]

Might be gunfighter mod that change steel plates and cause stuttery move, try swap to ceramic

[patent radish]

oh dude thank you so much

I'll try it

WORKED holy thanks @jolly verge

[night badger]

I disabled Server-Side Checksum, I get less connection errors but my average public lobby experience dropped by 50iq points

there's this ZomBiE MoDe trend lately. hosted only by exceptionally stupid people

we need server browser BAD

[somber plover]

fr

[celest gull]

is there now something wrong with the ai or did i just hire the actual the wrong people, they just kicked down the door and two ai left the stack

[hybrid stream]

Often this is from people death checking (shooting a corpse instead of tying it) and not knowing how to use less lethal and melee correctly (correct for the game anyways, but the game's mechanics around those are stupid).

[hybrid stream]

+1

[celest gull]

just got killed by the last suspect again god i love this game so much i might even send myself to therapy

[lost inlet]

gg

[sharp fox]

if you keep breaking roe on accident then get a mod that kinda relaxed the roe a bit so you dont lose all of your points

all because you didnt press F

[true panther]

You can also shout before rounding corners/entering rooms as is SOP for most police forces

[stone bay]

can the devs add a x95 to the game

[sharp fox]

i usually shout randomly so i can hear suspects, then i go in and kill them

[compact sequoia]

nah i don't need that mod, my only real violations would be from stray round and that doesn't happen often anyway

and i always yell because i'm aware of the fact that we're playing as swat, not cia death squad

[sharp fox]

why not play as a cia death squad

[compact sequoia]

because i don't glow in the dark

[sharp fox]

are you sure

[compact sequoia]

i'm very sure, my fellow non-federal agent

[sharp fox]

have you double checked

[compact sequoia]

yes, you cannot see me while you're driving

[sharp fox]

unfortunate to hear

[granite peak]

we not allowed to enjoy the game no more 😭😭🙏🙏

[lost inlet]

iwi x95? we already have f90

[sudden marsh]

you can like it and enjoy, he is being over the top.

but the game has many faults, if he expressed it differently then i would agree.

[sharp fox]

can we turn sneaky snitch into an ron soundtrack

[tacit gull]

you mean it isn't part of the ron ost already??

I think we need to message zack

[sharp fox]

fr

[stone bay]

IDC I WANT TEH iSRAELI X95

!!!
!
!

+Ç

[lost inlet]

https://www.nexusmods.com/readyornot/mods/3779

technically its x95

[stone bay]

oh thx

[blazing eagle]

where do you deactivate mods?

[sharp fox]

look in #❓modding-faq-archive

[stone bay]

how to install it?

[shy tulip]

Launch the game in safemode, otherwise you have to delete it.

[sharp fox]

you’ll find instructions fr

[stone bay]

i just know how to intsall steam ones

[sharp fox]

you download it manually then insert it into the pak files

use #❓modding-faq-archive for instructions

[sharp fox]

[blazing eagle]

modding faq pin doesnt help my question I just want to know where to turn off and on my mods

[blazing eagle]

bruh

[teal nexus]

just got 1 shot by a G19 or smaller

god make it make sense

[sharp fox]

cant trust 9mm guns anymore

[shy tulip]

Shot in the face

[plain osprey]

Bullet hit you in the shoulder, ricocheted of your collarbone hit you in the brain many possibilities here

[sharp fox]

bounced off the vest, hit a wall, hit your helmet and bounced off, bounced off a metal door and into your skull

[plain osprey]

At least 0.01% possible

[teal nexus]

jfk type shit

[frail quartz]

And once it entered your skull, it slowed down enough to where it is no longer able to pierce bone so it just began rapidly ricocheting around the inside of your skull turning your brain into pink mush

[sharp fox]

real

might be a small chance of that happening but its never zero

[shy tulip]

Someone is getting a medical drama made based on them

[crude prism]

bro dont know how the damage system works, it's okay tho, the game doesn't either

[teal nexus]

just died to the last enemy on repulse, the AI is trying to kick down a door i jammed, the jam is winning

[stone bay]

I just shot a dude’s artery out

[sharp fox]

average day in roncord

[ocean igloo]

Where is the all eyes on me evidence piece i cant find it in the locker room

[ionic gale]

I’m gonna tell you all this little story in a green text way

be me

highly trained swat

Glock 19 fired three times onto a suspect in thank you come again

suspect succumbs to his bullet wound and dies while I’m trying to negotiate him to drop his weapon

Yeah, I put three shots into a suspect… on the third, he started bleeding

I kept calling him to put down his gun, but he just got into cover and just bled to death

[frail quartz]

I just finished greased palms and I have to say, it really is as difficult as people make it out to be

[silk junco]

stinky ew ew

[sharp fox]

stinky ew ew

[sharp fox]

now do it again

[frail quartz]

oh you know me 😈

[stable kernel]

Now do it with the 1.0 release ai

That was cancerous

[twilit vault]

Does anyone knows about the information of home defense dlc?

Is there have a new resident house map ?

[bitter field]

Just that it'll have 3 new maps, 2 new weapons and new outfit for preorders

Also Home Invasion btw

[shy tulip]

I think the skin* is for people who buy the DLC, not for SE players

[twilit vault]

Sounds like there will be some small scale map

[shy tulip]

Yeah not too excited for that prospect

[twilit vault]

Unless its trump’s house

[stone bay]

Lol

I’d pay to raid Mar-a-Lago

[twilit vault]

Mar a lago

[bitter field]

Hmm some reason I was under the impression the outfit was only for those who preordered the dlc

Glad its not the case

[twilit vault]

Outfits?trust the nexus’s mod community

[prime wing]

Theres been 0 mentions about it, would be reasonable to expect a home invasion level

But then again, it might be a completely different meaning

[twilit vault]

I don’t think its gonna be a large era

[prime wing]

Ron buts its an alien invasion

[shy tulip]

It will be 3 variations of the police station being raided

Confirmed

[amber dock]

^

[twilit vault]

If that’s an invasion general LA home then it’s wouldn’t be a large scale map .

[prime wing]

The Battle of LS

[shy tulip]

Idk, we'll find out one way or the other. I'm hoping for some medium to larger sized maps

People like ends of earth but I think if the game was 18 ends of earth then no one would be playing

[bitter field]

I'd imagine we'd be getting something similar to sins

with a burglary gone wrong and barricaded with hostages inside

[twilit vault]

Its the family in that map are the Vietnam immigrants?

Or chinese?

[shy tulip]

I think so, didn't care for the map so I don't care

[twilit vault]

…..

[shy tulip]

Just went in, shot some dudes, bagged n tagged and didn't touch it again

Probably have to S rank it later on though

[twilit vault]

Loll

I like it.because I’ve been there

The Santa Monica beach

[shy tulip]

You've been selling guns to pay for your mother/grandmas treatment?

[prime wing]

Vietnamese

[twilit vault]

Santa Monica pier is a great view point

[twilit vault]

Sadly I can’t send any pictures here

[twilit vault]

Got u

#🎬ron-clips-and-media message

[celest gull]

is there a bug in voll house in the basement? i died there two times not a single suspect in sight no gun shot no nothing just died

[olive idol]

still don't understand the D-Team's love for handcuffing down and dead Suspects/Civs when there is no real reason

[river tide]

well irl if you can’t check for a pulse when you don’t have time, you’ll have to assume they’re alive no matter how many bullets are in their head and can’t risk them getting up

[olive idol]

to be fair, if the suspect is rping as a french monarch then there's no need

[acoustic ridge]

with the amount of times we shoot them they should either die or bleed out if they try playing dead for more than a minute

[brave scroll]

tbf irl SOP is usually check for a pulse

check pulse secure weapon move on

[earnest shell]

Is the German Version cut?

Like a non uncut version?I recently changed back to Germany on Steam and soooo many things are censored now wtf.

[quick meadow]

are achievements only obtainable in single player?

[jolly verge]

Yeap, most of them

[quick meadow]

thanks

[earnest shell]

I think all of them are only available in practice and commander mode

[waxen eagle]

should I buy this game at this price or wait for it to go down?

[eager merlin]

wait for it to go down it is NOT worth it rn @waxen eagle

[waxen eagle]

thanks

[eager merlin]

np

[tawny scroll]

question my ron fellas

what is the kaiju helmet based on

[jolly verge]

rapid response or fast ops-core like

[stone bay]

How exactly does the Paramedic trait work? Like, if a teammate goes down will the paramedic revive them during the mission or will they just come back afterwards?

[jolly verge]

Nope, there is no animation or something like this. They way it's work it's just 100% saves one of your officer that die after mission

[native rune]

It increases the chance downed officers will be injured instead of dead when it’s over

[jolly verge]

default chance to die for officers without trait is 50%

[native rune]

As in after they’ve already been “killed” during the mission, the end morale summary will be like “nope actually they’re just wounded”

[stone bay]

alright so if I'm going for The Hermit achievement, the paramedic could save a run?

[jolly verge]

idk, but i would not risk

[stone bay]

I mean is there a way to avoid the risk?

[jolly verge]

apart from given them nutritionist, armorer or just order them to stay at spawn? I don't think so

[west lantern]

MICH TC-2001

[jolly verge]

P90 or mp7 with ap ammo against l3a vests

Armory > slots

[frail quartz]

The MP7 has 10 less rounds per mag, but has slightly less recoil and a much faster reload than the p90, so it's mostly up to preference

[median shadow]

do bullets have damage values or is their damage to the player/enemies calculated in a different kind of way?

[frail quartz]

A few maps have a higher base suspect HP value than others and some pistol caliber rounds have dropoff, but other than that most bullets have a set damage value for different parts of the body depending on their caliber and whether they're AP or JHP.

If you don't mind taking a peek behind the curtain, this spreadsheet has a shitload of information about different game mechanics #👮ron-discussion message

[median shadow]

cool, thanks

[true panther]

with that batch of leaked US SOF footage that came out there was this one clip where operators lit some dude in a room up and then were zipping him up after so zipping up seems SOP for SOF as well

[honest owl]

RON kinda fell off ngl

[brave scroll]

i mean i suppose SOF is different to a regular SWAT team, and i probably shouldve mentioned im going off UK SOP which will surely have some differences to over there in america

[frail quartz]

Even if restraining downed suspects isn't realistic, it would be unnecessary stress to have to constantly watch your back to make sure the suspect you shot doesn't get back up (especially when it's painfully obvious they're faking)

It'd also probably encourage a lot of double-tapping which probably isn't looked upon very fondly in SWAT

At the end of the day it's either you let players restrain downed suspects, or you make playing-dead so extraordinarily rare that it isn't even something players will have to worry about

[stable kernel]

Swat teams irl have very large man counts, and they leave a trail of friendlies behind them for rear cover and keeping restrained persons secure. I assume the same would apply for downed suspects.

[native rune]

RoN was Off for that year post Adam and then 1.0 retrospective could be described as comparatively a fall so I guess that lines up

[frail quartz]

I wouldn't say 1.0 didn't improve the game, it just didn't live up to expectations

[honest owl]

Idk, I guess I just expected more...? I mean what the game is now is arguably less than what we had when we got the game pre-adam... They got rid of gamemodes and that really hurt the replayability for me.

[crude prism]

real and true

alt gamemodes add a lot of gameplay for comparatively little effort

[honest owl]

Def glad I bought the game for 30 dabloons and not what it's currently priced at

[crude prism]

also those old maps that were effectively complete and simply could've stayed as coop/practice only bonus maps

for again, comparatively little effort

[soft narwhal]

the alt gamemodes also changed the maps

im assuming they did away with them so they dont have to maintain several versions of a map

easier for pipeline updates

[crude prism]

oh no we can't pick one version of a legacy map to put in as extra content, better remove them all

[soft narwhal]

idk what you're yapping about

its my assumption as to why they did what they did

since you're in the supporter discord, you could always ask ali or zack maybe they'd know

as to why they were removed

[crude prism]

its easier just to huff and puff about it

im sure theres a reason

it's probably just time, as obviously they were crunching for 1.0

would love to see them return

[median shadow]

it just makes them easier to transport before they throw the body into the ocean

[stoic hornet]

Does anyone else get mad when a suspect shoots you 30 times when they have A TEN ROUND MAG

[uncut fjord]

do they not want to put the ski masks back in the game? and does it feel like there's less customizability then when it was in early access? or am i missing something?

[soft narwhal]

There's way more customization now than there was before

There aren't any playable characters with balaclavas at the moment, but they've said the balavaclavas will come back at some point

[uncut fjord]

is it all not in single player?

[soft narwhal]

all the customization you unlock through completing the missions and getting good ranks on them

Multiplayer counts for unlocks iirc just not achievements

[uncut fjord]

also when i meant customization i didn't mean the head gear and cloths i meant what happened to the mirror where you could change what your character looked like, mb

[soft narwhal]

You can still change your character

Just none of them have a balaclava at the moment

[winged hornet]

It’s in the locker room of the station

[uncut fjord]

really? the mirror didnt work for me?

[pale shale]

A single round on full auto has less recoil than a single round on semi?

I tested it with the G36C, F90, SA-58, MK18, MCX and it seems to be the case.

[soft narwhal]

the mirror itself doesnt work

but you can still change characters by going to the locker rooms or desks by the lockeroom

[frail quartz]

Was the mirror removed in the adam update for preformance or technical issues? I can't remember

[humble mauve]

performance

[frail quartz]

Could it be fixed by placing the mirror into a more "simple" room or do the problems still arise?

[humble mauve]

even if you had reflections disabled in settings there was still a noticeable performance drop compared to it being disabled in engine

because (idk how this all works correct me if I'm wrong) it was just a UE reflection system

[frail quartz]

Question: would it be too extreme to pull a super-mario 64 and just have two versions of the same small room connected by a piece of glass and just have a "fake" player on the other side, or would that just have as many technical issues

This feels like a lot of effort just to be able to look at the third person animations, maybe I have a problem

[teal nexus]

i just finished port hokan

and

what, the fuck... i have never been so invested in RoN lore

[native rune]

Just in time for the game to end

[brisk scaffold]

I just can't anymore dead game no content no updates on a 50$ game qim out

[sharp fox]

i tried wallbanging the women in the container, didnt work ☹️

[stone bay]

slugs are pretty good

i gave them a go and yeah they work alright

[upbeat heath]

bro i swear these civs are dumb as fuck

when im in a shootout the civiliand get the smart idea to run straight into my line of fire and get a hole in the head

[teal nexus]

I got so unreasonably invested, this game just put me on a higher high than fent

[azure nova]

why ads zoom is not working from time to time?

[sharp fox]

is it enabled in your settings?

[azure nova]

yes, it works for sure at the beginning of every mission but sometimes it stops work in the middle and ads is not zoomed till the end

[empty kelp]

Is this game going to be only for computers forever?

[sharp fox]

for now, maybe, in the future, probably not..?

[empty kelp]

Oh thanks for answering

[jolly verge]

Using tablet will stop ads zoom to work

[azure nova]

is it a known issue?

[jolly verge]

yes

[empty kelp]

I want to get the game but my computer is too weak to run it

[shy tulip]

Join the local SWAT team and save up to buy a new one

[gleaming fable]

trap upstairs killing me when im downstairs.

void pls

[onyx axle]

what does the red outline around the model in the bottom left of the screen mean

Not the filled in bits, the outline

[gleaming fable]

your dudes health. the redder it gets, the closer your guy is to meeting jesus.

[onyx axle]

explains why I got immediately one-shotted the moment I opened a door, armour didn't do anything then

[onyx axle]

I thought the game worked on an overall health system based on the damage to different limbs

[tacit gull]

You just have a health pool, the damage to limbs only gives you slight debuffs

[wet kite]

I want to get a cosmetic that wants me to get "A B on Greased Palms". Does this mean I need to get A or B on the mission? If I get anything higher like A+ or S will it count?

[gleaming fable]

if you get higher, youll get the cosmetic

[wet kite]

alright thanks

[crude prism]

Outline is your actual health. It's not a Tarkov-like system where you have health in each limb or anything

[onyx axle]

never played tarkov lol

the health pool seems pretty irrelevant, from what I've experienced you take so many shots then just die. Sometimes you can tank a full mag, sometimes you get shot two or three times and you're having a dirt sandwich

[quasi blade]

It looks cool but from what I've heard is pretty sweaty/full of cheaters

[tacit gull]

It is relevant, you either take shots to armor or you die pretty quick

However currently the HUD is broken and doesn't display the correct amount of health sometimes

[onyx axle]

I must just be getting repeatedly shot in the head then

[crude prism]

headshots do that, but also depends on the armor/vest you're wearing

if you wear light, even at full health, you can be 3 shot at any time

[onyx axle]

I've got light ceramic front/back

weird how it can be between 2 and 30 shots though

[crude prism]

ceramic is currently bugged

significantly stronger than it should be, broken with feb 6th patch

[onyx axle]

I seem to have a natural attraction to the bugged parts of this game

[crude prism]

you know it's good that people can tell something is wrong with 0 external information

[gleaming fable]

i really dont like how enemies still force your character to do low/high ready when theyre near you meanwhile they can still shoot you. lmao

[crude prism]

ah clearly skill issue, bro never learned how to short stock

[lost inlet]

mfw when im backpedaling so i can have space to use my gun and their walking is faster than mine

[umbral oar]

smack em

[lost inlet]

cant smack if they too close

even if i did smacking doesn't make them fully stun, can still run and shoot like normal

just look more goofy while doing so

bruh

[frail quartz]

It'd be neat that if you could shove suspects backwards if they're too close for a normal melee

[river tide]

i mean that would be cool but sounds like it would rarely have any use cases

[lost inlet]

prefer full stun and can be used at any range with any setup

if you need to melee enemy bots then you already desperate

[river tide]

100%

i mean to be fair sometimes when a civ won’t get down you can hit them and they’ll get down no force penalty

[gleaming fable]

wus dat

[jolly verge]

if suspect running at you, making your weapon go up, just do a dropshot with ctrl+alt+s, it's will give you free space to shoot their chin

[gleaming fable]

didnt know thats a thing

[lost inlet]

confirm work all the times?

[gleaming fable]

maybe.

[lost inlet]

at least ik what to do when the bots pull that kind of bs

[jolly verge]

works fine with sr16 and bcm

[gleaming fable]

im totally gonna forget to do that once it happens to me again. lmao

also it doesnt help that the ai mod im running has the suspects have miniguns for fire rates

[jolly verge]

and the shorter the weapon the less you need to up the mouse

[lost inlet]

i dont use sr16 unless i use gunfight, fck bcm even though i never touch it

[river tide]

sa58 is underrated ngl

[teal nexus]

wasnt there a red phosphor option for NVG's? what happened to it?

[tacit gull]

No

[gleaming fable]

i heckin love sa58

big boolet

[river tide]

its soooo nice, its legit one shot and theyre dead so the recoil and ammo problem means nothing

[gleaming fable]

giving myself tinnitus for the sake of immersion.

[river tide]

ong though its awesome

[gleaming fable]

tru

[river tide]

oh and like you kind of said it sounds amaziinnnggg and looks amaziinnnnggg

[stone bay]

bro I have to turn volume up to 85 on headphones using the SA58

[sharp fox]

maybe i should start trying to keep my suspects alive

[gleaming fable]

wheres the fun in that. lmao

[sharp fox]

im imagining headlines just saying “swat raid leaves 15 people dead”

but then again its just a video game so

[native rune]

5 swat officers raid an entire shipyard*

[humble mauve]

erm... it was a joint raid with multiple government agencies

[native rune]

Oh yeah my bad they did like 90% of the work on that map I just had to sit back

[gleaming fable]

more like 30+ on our end because me and the homies run ai mods.

[sharp fox]

erm, i didnt see them, so it doesnt count!!!!!!!!

[uncut fjord]

why cant you just retry the mission in ready or not wont it just be annoying when you play a ton of hours and anytime you die youll have to go back to the lobby?

[shy tulip]

You are playing commander mode, there are consequences to dying that you need to be in HQ to deal with. Play practice mode or COOP if you want restarts

[uncut fjord]

alright thank you a ton

[teal nexus]

i know how you feel, Commander mode is a bunch of hooplah

[lost inlet]

unpopular opinion: SA58 is kinda overrated

[river tide]

no mark 18 is

[lost inlet]

lmao

real actually

i take it back
SA58 is not underrated, its popular as its should be

[sharp fox]

i love taking down suspects with 2 shots using the sa58

[stone bay]

Apart from using the breach shotgun, how else can I trigger a trapped door without getting dead? Is there a minimum distance I can stand back and still have the option to open the door?

[jolly verge]

shooting at grenade through wireframe

and no, you can't open the door with you hands without being dead

unless you have more than 2500 hp

[stone bay]

do slugs or buckshot do higher dmg

[jolly verge]

slugs deal 250 damage and buck 40 per pellet (320 if all of them hits)

[noble pasture]

What to use against unarmored suspects?

[stone bay]

shotgun/ar is like the go to for anybody

[jolly verge]

If you sure that they unarmored then use JHP ammo

[noble pasture]

I want then incaped, not sent to Valhalla

[jaunty edge]

any1 down to play

[noble pasture]

9mm jhp?

[jolly verge]

incap/kill same 5 score, unless it's important target

[jaunty edge]

any1 one wanna play a little?

[jolly verge]

pretty much any rifle AP ammo will incap in 1-3 torso shot

[stone bay]

nonlethal shotgun

[jaunty edge]

😭

[jolly verge]

There is a channel for this https://discord.com/channels/310075021882294272/921526746082336829

[jaunty edge]

nobody's answering there

[noble pasture]

Kill Amos Voll?

[stone bay]

do shots around a civ decrease their morale??

[noble pasture]

Or be a sane officer and pepper spray them

[stone bay]

Of course, just on principle.

[jolly verge]

yes, same for suspects and on some maps they won't take any suppress morale damage at all

[noble pasture]

But make him suffer?

[stone bay]

I find .308 to the knee sends the right message

[sharp fox]

my ai is so stupid

hes standing there getting shot then flops dead

[twin python]

Yeah the AI is blind sometimes

[noble pasture]

Do you guys use shield unironically?

[sharp geyser]

no, I used to give to one of my officers but he refused to keep the shield up 24/7, also it's annoying to see through the tiny glass slit when it's been shot up

[floral pulsar]

Server sigma

[velvet elbow]

idk wehre else to put this but whenever i start to boot the game it just opens a black screen and acts like its loading but doesnt move for more than 12 hours and prolly never will. i have an outdated graphics card for this era but i have loaded the game before ages ago. my drivers are updated and yes, i have verified my steam files. i have system rebooted all of windows, still doesn't work. delete and redownload? doesn't work.

what do i do?

[sudden marsh]

Whats your gpu? Graphics has chnged since then

[granite cape]

anyone having issues loading in? im stuck at 98% for about 10m

[amber dock]

Typically I exit the game and try again in that case

[subtle moon]

What the sigma

[river tide]

just rejoin then

[noble pasture]

started S ranking all the missions while on Hardcore Mode

I am using No Crack for AI to make this doable

AI is realistic

pepper ball or lead, normal people will hesitate when a SWAT squad pulls up

[lost inlet]

No Ai is realistic🗿

[noble pasture]

using the big pepper ball gun

[noble pasture]

base RoN suspect AI can legit kill you in 0.1 seconds

[lost inlet]

ik

[noble pasture]

best human reaction time is 0.2 seconds

[lost inlet]

been there since day 10

[noble pasture]

10 or 1?

[crude prism]

standard RoNcord occurrence

[velvet elbow]

Well my gpu can kinda handle but the game itself isnt loading and i think its cuz my gpu only allows outdated drivers since its so old

[jolly verge]

What card exactly do you have? Did you try add -ngxdisable in game steam launch parameters yet?

[velvet elbow]

Broseph i got a old ass gt 730 nvidia and no i havent tried that how do i?

[jolly verge]

That really bad card, but to add command just open steam, right click on game, properties and add -ngxdisable in launch options box

[velvet elbow]

Thanks? I will try to find that.

Bro i had this issue for like a year u are an absolute g if u work in tech u need a promotion

[stoic whale]

what does full armor mean?

whats the difference of that and front/back armor?

[shy tulip]

It's coverage, your plates go where you put them (front / front + back / full coverage). Apparently everything else will just use kevlar

[stoic whale]

ah ok, so the full coverage is better for your back protection?

[stone stump]

sides

[stoic whale]

oh oh thanks

[shy tulip]

I mean in the sense of a bullet going through your front and not penetrating through you, yeah

[hushed meadow]

Once all the DLC that will be released this year will that be it for RON content?

[stone stump]

do note that full coverage only works with heavy armor and simply changes all armor plates to the material you chose (instead of defaulting to kevlar, as sinner already said above)

[shy tulip]

Depends what is added with the free updates along with the DLCs

[stone stump]

we haven't even got the first dlc yet

[hushed meadow]

I can see it now RON DLC: Extraction Or Not 250$

[stone stump]

but if you were to believe the roadmap, probably that's it

dlc + free parallel bugfix update x2, game update x2 and maybe "hotfixes" after that

[hushed meadow]

I heard void is working on a new game...I wonder what it's gonna be

[tacit gull]

If you're asking long term there should still be some content after this year

(i hope)

The devs expressed interest in making DLC's with different countries

[stone stump]

not a lot of countries are as violent as this certain one, so i wonder which ones will they add

[eager jackal]

Bro how tf do I get rid of tripwires on Lethal Obsession

They just AREN'T VISIBLE

[stoic whale]

i think you open the door slightly and use a wire cutter

i forgot

[eager jackal]

The prompt doesn't appear

[stoic whale]

then id say use the breath shotgun that way it shoots the door open and youll be far away form it when it explodes

[noble pasture]

Is No Crack for AI a good mod for S rank?

[stone stump]

if you don't mind cheating, sure

[noble pasture]

Its not cheating when vanilla AI can wallbang you

[shy tulip]

When they spot you and you hide, sure. I've heard the mod is pretty easy, some would say too easy.

[stone stump]

they only do when they're supposed to

[tacit gull]

If you're gonna do ai mods you should atleast do one that's interesting

[sharp geyser]

wallbang them back

[noble pasture]

Should I mix long pepper ball gun and bean bag shotgun on bots?

[shy tulip]

As long as you wear gas masks yeah, because of that I just prefer to use beanbag

[jolly verge]

You playing commander mode?

[noble pasture]

Ye

[jolly verge]

Give them all vks and take 1 pacifier trait at least, as well as 2 negotiators

[sharp geyser]

the AI can sometimes headshot kill the suspects with the beanbag it's funny

[stone stump]

wasn't that fixed?

[sharp geyser]

saw them kill suspects thrice 2 weeks ago when I S ranked all maps

[tacit gull]

I think it just happens less

[noble pasture]

So long pepper ball gun

[jolly verge]

yeah, you just shoot near legs and suspects will give up

(only with pacifier trait)

[noble pasture]

Is veteran trait good flex pick?

So 1 pacifier, 2 negotiators and a veteran?

[jolly verge]

might be, can't really test it, swat ai accuracy is random in commander mode

armorer or veteran i guess

[noble pasture]

Nutritionist to prevent deaths?

Oh ok

[jolly verge]

no, don't take it, armorer much better

[noble pasture]

I dont know how to balance mags/cs nades

6 pepper mags and 6 nades?

[jolly verge]

you can take m320 with gas, it's will be 4 nades

[noble pasture]

Its not bugged on bots anymore?

[jolly verge]

it's bugged

[sharp geyser]

it depends on the map, if it's something like greased palms you take more mags

[jolly verge]

i mean take for yourself

[noble pasture]

Then give 1 bot a wand?

Unsure if I can trust them, cuffed or downed suspects count as detected

[jolly verge]

then just take wand instead of m320, not a big loss

[noble pasture]

Should I give bots breaching shotgun then?

I think its safer than the ram

With the ram they are exposed a bit

[jolly verge]

probably yes, you can just give them all types of breach tools

[shy tulip]

I think they're exposed either way

At least the ram fully opens the door

[jolly verge]

don't forget to bring ceramic plates if you gonna take armorer

another strat with 2 negotiator is bring shield into mission, you pick suspects with it and yell for compliance, if negotiator proc they will surrender immediately, if not you just fallback and gas this room

2 negotiators is 50% chance that they will surrender from first yell

[shy tulip]

Boring realism mode

[eager jackal]

The wire doesn't appear even with mirror gun

[shy tulip]

Take a picture, you have to be missing somethin

[eager jackal]

One sec

Where do I send it?

[jolly verge]

here https://discord.com/channels/310075021882294272/921528178789474314

and did you check under door?

[eager jackal]

Yep

[jolly verge]

just slightly opened door don't really tell anything

[eager jackal]

I found exactly ONE trap this whole map that I could disarm

[jolly verge]

better record video and upload it in bug repord section if it's happen again

[eager jackal]

I don't have a recording software

[sharp geyser]

both nvidia and AMD have a built-in recording function

[eager jackal]

.. Huh

Well in my search I realized I'm just legally blind

[stone stump]

even windows does

[leaden night]

Has anyone had issues in the basement at the carriers of the vine where you get random boards that go across the hallway that you can walk through?

[gaunt turtle]

i see that a lot too, think it's a rendering thing

boards are for keeping immersion maybe?

[leaden night]

Well basically got assassinated through them when I couldn't even see the enemy so figured I would ask if it's a consistent problem

[winter pendant]

can anyone @me and let me know if stab vest armor coverage and type really does anything?

[river tide]

it does but it’s really just useless, only use it for role play

the effect it gives is a little better than no armor but really not much

[winter pendant]

I mean does it make a difference whether I select full coverage, steel plates, etc

when using stab vest

[stable kernel]

No

[winter pendant]

gotcha...

[river tide]

not really

[stable kernel]

Stab vest has no coverage slots and does not use plates

[winter pendant]

I wish they would hide those dialogs with stab vest selected

thanks

[sudden marsh]

its a LOD Issue

[stone bay]

FYI, there’s a mod on Nexus that adds back the old breaching shotgun. 10/10 would recommend.

[umbral oar]

what’s with the new one?

[fiery glacier]

I have a question that maybe was answered. What happened to the Drone, and Portable Ladders? And if I remember correctly, the sniper mode and pvp are in development, right?

[crude prism]

I don't think drones were EVER in a build that left Voids hands (if they even made them), and ladders were only in a few builds many many years ago during NDA days

Sniper mode never existed.

PvP is still 'planned'

[humble mauve]

all of those (besides pvp) were just found to not fit the gameplay/maps at all

[tacit gull]

There is a video that straight up showcases a drone flight model and they were included in the PVP files, ladders were also a part of the PVP as you could grab them at the start of a mission

[crude prism]

Is it one of the ones from the dude that burned void and leaked a bunch of old shit he had* special access too?

[tacit gull]

If you're talking about the vid it's one from VOID's channel

It's unlisted right now though

You can still access it if you have the link

There's a bunch of old videos in the newsletters if you want to dig through that, some cool stuff in there

[crude prism]

yeah i see one old vid of a drone, still never went into any of the live testing builds or progressed past "concept"

the ladders would probably be "fine" for PvP, but I can imagine the nightmare that would be trying to implement them post-hoc into existing maps

[tacit gull]

My suggestion was always to implement them in predetermined spots in each map

Also the ladders really broke the game in PVP as you could easily jump out of the map lmao

[prime wing]

drone always seemed like a cool tool

[tacit gull]

There is one circling on rust belt

[prime wing]

put some limitations around it like range or battery life

[tacit gull]

But you can't use it

[prime wing]

to balance it out

[crude prism]

suspect 100ms reaction time would like to meet you

[prime wing]

get too close and it alerts suspects

but thats a whole can of worms

[silk junco]

womrs 🤤

[crude prism]

huh