👮ron-discussion

[humble mauve]

traps are on 2-3 maps

idk why you would bother disabling them

[frail quartz]

There's these two suspects on brisa cove who are just exchanging fire at eachother for some reason

Must be some personal grudges or something

I can literally hear one of the guys grunting in pain from being hit

lmao I think I just heard him collapse

[gleaming fable]

meanwhile me and the homies cranked up the trap count to 20+ because were speedrunning the maps too quickly.

[median shadow]

im gonna try doing an all pump shotgun run and see if anything changes

i got a feeling the bot fire rate on the shotguns is the same regardless of which one they have

[stone bay]

Why can you not use primary shotguns as breachers?

[median shadow]

because its a game

[stable kernel]

Also because buck or birdshot pellets will bounce off the door, and possibly injure someone. Frangible rounds in the breaching shotgun mostly disintegrate on impact, transferring more force and are safer generally.

[median shadow]

IRL you fire a slug at a 90 degree angle to the hinges of the door you want to destroy, then kick the door in

RON is more like explosive shotgun slugs

https://youtu.be/RoIRomTZieI

[median shadow]

hmm

i could be wrong but i think if you kill civilians with c2 explosive at some point the game auto-kill you instead

somehow i killed myself with c2 but i should have been more than far enough away

[jolly verge]

C2 should kill you only if you on the other side of door

[stone bay]

r the oceanic servers messed up

[prime wing]

there are no servers, the game is peer to peer

[stone bay]

someone and me (in the same region) have played before a few monthsa go, trying to again, exact same mods, even no mods, they join and instantly get booted

[prime wing]

probably there arent that many in your region but yeah #🔎looking-for-players helps

[stone bay]

no, someone is joining me, a steam friend

friends only server

[prime wing]

oh

remember to turn off checksum

[stone bay]

is it just me or after i installed the game i lost all my clothes that i unlocked a long time ago

i still have my saves but all the clothes that i unlocked b4 are locked now

[modern steeple]

What is it the sbags do?

i forgot

[static epoch]

when i pressed alt f4 on ready or not when i came back i lost everything

[lost inlet]

less stress gained after mission

[modern steeple]

Ty

[waxen grove]

Any updates yet?

[tacit gull]

No

[teal nexus]

I try not to use C2 for the reason that it puts civilians on the other side of the door in danger, I try to just use the shotgun

[modern steeple]

"Mirrorgun enters chat"

[teal nexus]

Nah I don’t trust my teammate like that, and plus if a suspect opens the door it can be a pain in the ass cause he takes a second to get up and I’m still shooting as he is

[modern steeple]

True but you can also just use it yourself unless youre using smth better already

[west shuttle]

Can you replenish ammo?

[modern steeple]

like mid game?

[west shuttle]

Yes

[modern steeple]

Not that im aware, pretty sure they dont expect a player to use all the mags when your not shooting to kill :0

[west shuttle]

You're supposed to shoot not to kill? O:

[modern steeple]

yeah :0

More points :0

[west shuttle]

After third warning:
Civilians, stay clear. THIS IS A WAR ZONE NOW

[modern steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/1917-explosion-running-war-movie-gif-18770469

pov: valley of the dolls

[stone bay]

yea RoN isn't really supposed to be call of duty

[modern steeple]

[tacit gull]

Currently you should shoot to kill, as incaps give the exact same score as kills

[wooden arrow]

wdym i cant 360 no scope the suspect :(

[twilit rampart]

2027

[lost inlet]

its the opposite, you suppose to to play like real life cops while the bot act like cod players instead of you play like cod while the bot pretend to be human

[stone bay]

how did i die after getting shot 4 times with maximum armor

i went on lethal obsession, i peak 1 guy, get shot once on both arms

then another guy peaks me, hits me twice and i just die

[lost inlet]

you used kevlar?

[stone bay]

full steel, helmet and mask

Interesting

[lost inlet]

you have armorer?

[stone bay]

no

all my officers keep quitting

how am i supposed to complete iron mode like this, this is just insane

[lost inlet]

k my theory is that the first guy hit you in both the arms while also destroy your helmet and the second guy come in and claim the kill

[sudden marsh]

Its because the AI is shit its not that complicated to say
nor dive into

[stone bay]

no i still had the helmet after the first firefight

did the second guy just double tap my head i guess?

[lost inlet]

damage the helmet to 1 shot left

[lost inlet]

they can triple taps you in the head, what did you expect

[stone bay]

someone else said you couldn't get 1 tapped with a helmet still on

[stone bay]

idk to have a tiny bit of a fighting chance i guess

[lost inlet]

and void want us to play like real life cops while the bot behave more derange than cod players themself

[stone bay]

i brought breach shotgun instead of the ballistic shield to open doors and this was my reward

[sudden marsh]

The AI can triple tap you from far away with no sights

[lost inlet]

most of time i just unlock, peek then swing, if breach then breach with C2

swat bot with shields are OP from what i heard

[stone bay]

like i understand that this game is a hardcore simulator but jesus christ, if you run max armor you should not be getting killed instantly

Depends where they shoot you and what with

[lost inlet]

thats why you yell and shoots immediately, they never surrender on their own

[lost inlet]

there a fine line between fun and just straight up frustation

[stone bay]

i do, but he was hidden, he swung the corner and murked me b4 i could react and shoot

[lost inlet]

what gun you using btw

?

[stone bay]

i was using the semi shotgun on that

[lost inlet]

fcking earthquake in discord

[stone bay]

usually i carry a rifle

[lost inlet]

m4 or b13?

[stone bay]

if small map semi auto shotgun, if large map rifle

beneli

[lost inlet]

slug or buckshot?

[stone bay]

what?

buckshot.. there are slugs?

[lost inlet]

ye

you dont know?

[stone bay]

no i didn't

[lost inlet]

lol

[stone bay]

look the gun isn't the problem, i die before i can use it

[lost inlet]

ye true

[stone bay]

i tend to run shotguns more than rifles though

[lost inlet]

well at least now you know shotguns have slug

[stone bay]

yeah

i don't think i'm ever gonna use those though

will buckshot not incapacitate someone if they're wearing armor?

it's like getting sucker punched my mike tyson in his prime

[lost inlet]

buckshot one shot everything as long you hit in the unarmored part, slug one shot in torso only and effective againts tier 3 ceramic

[stone bay]

ai has armor types?

[lost inlet]

ye

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1d89lpFDA9lo_v13iBlnhtuA6DvuUnKfPaeo0d4RBGJ4/edit#gid=695296307

more info about game

[stone bay]

so are slugs just better?

[wooden arrow]

Well if you aim for the limbs buckshot better

also less of a chance you will miss

[wooden arrow]

Usually if you see a suspect wearing a bulletproof vest than yeah they can take more shots than normal

[stone bay]

yeah i mean

kevlar, ceramic, steel

[wooden arrow]

oh, well technically none they either don’t or have a bulletproof vest

You’ll just have a harder time taking them out unless you have AP

[stone bay]

also i meant for torso shots

if youre just gon shoot the torso slugs are better?

[wooden arrow]

Oh yeah

cause those bulletproof vests just eat buckshot

[stone bay]

so hitting a vest with buckshot doesn't do anything? that's ridiculous

[wooden arrow]

no it does a bit of damage

[stone bay]

his ribs are ash!

you are not walking after that

[wooden arrow]

You just got to shoot them a bunch of times is all

Usually 2-4 shots with buckshot

[stone bay]

christ

[wooden arrow]

Just aim for the legs if you are gonna use buckshot

[stone bay]

doctors in the 1800s be like:

[lost inlet]

void doesnt think so

[lost inlet]

or the head, used to do that all the time

[wooden arrow]

true but you prob could miss if they are moving around a lot

you get double the chance of hitting something if you aim for the legs

[lost inlet]

shotguns are hitscan tho so not a big problem at least for me

[wooden arrow]

yeah but you have you also have a bigger radius

[proven blade]

if you die, does it ruin the hermit achievement? or is it only officers

[wooden arrow]

either

[proven blade]

shit

[wooden arrow]

cause if you die on iroman mode you get your save file deleted

[proven blade]

i hope me alt f4ing ruined it

[wooden arrow]

oh yeah it does lmao

[proven blade]

oh good

[wooden arrow]

yeah it doesnt count until you reach the little score counting at the end of the mission

[proven blade]

oh great

[wooden arrow]

so you can just alt f4 and just restart it

[proven blade]

yeah im doing that rn

brixley talent time is so shit

[wooden arrow]

real

[median shadow]

it doesn't kill them as far as I know, i just downs them, which doesn't count as a kill

[teal nexus]

I think you mean a concussive force knocks them out

[wooden arrow]

theyll get back up so it wont count as a incapacitated or dead

[teal nexus]

But yeah maybe, but I just noticed it hurts them enough to where they don’t move so I just avoid it to avoid any loss of points

[median shadow]

i think it depends how close to the door they are

i've knocked out AV's wife in the closet many times

[wooden arrow]

oh i think thats civs only then

cause suspects they always get back up no matter how close they are to the c2

[stone bay]

time for that lethal obsession again

i sure hope i don't get drilled in the skull or my hands again

WHAT THE FUCK?!

What are these fucking guys made out of!??!?!

i went in with a shield and every single time i tried to move towards him he shot me in the hand and it caused bleeding

through the walls

[lost inlet]

left hand or right hand?

[stone bay]

right

i think that's right

[ionic cedar]

insane aim

[stone bay]

im just gonna quit trying iron mode i think

it's not worth it

untill they add full body steel armor this is not going to be fair

[lost inlet]

save your sanity not worth it

[lost inlet]

they just need to added shoulder and thigh plates and heavy armor should be more viable

[stone bay]

what's the point of a shield if i'm gonna get 17 complex fractures in my arm from gunshot wounds

[lost inlet]

balance

but then again, shield is extremely OP in this game, it can stop rifle rounds and never break so the downside is that your limbs are expose is a fair tradeoff

[stone bay]

well it does become useless after your visor gets wrecked

so while it's unbreakable it has limited use

[lost inlet]

swat bot dont care if the shield visor is cracked, they can still shoot accurately with their five seven

[stone bay]

well yeah AI does AI things but the game should probably be balanced around players not bots

[lost inlet]

void see players kill suspects instead of arresting them, get angry, make suspect actively fighting players instead of simulating irl suspect to "punish" players

[median shadow]

SWAT AI is RNG a lot of the times, usually in the player's favor though

[lost inlet]

when work then they work as intended, if fail then they gonna fail miserably

[median shadow]

lol

true

[stone bay]

some situations make suspects into john wick

if a suspects gets line of sight with you, no matter how ridiculously stupid or unspottable that LoS is, he will lock onto you and shoot for like 5 seconds straight with solid accuracy

so a guy exposes like half his head from a window 20 meters away and suddenly you're getting wrecked through a wall

[median shadow]

i wish i knew what the stat differences where between the shotguns that load slower versus the ones that load faster that are supposed to make using the slower re-loading shotgun more beneficial, im sure its something, i just dont know what it is

[stone bay]

honestly i don't know

every shotgun i've used wrecks people in 1 shot. i don't think pumps have an advantage

[median shadow]

its not the pump versus none-pump, i mean the 870 and m1014 have super fast reloading of each shell and the B1301 and Supernova both reload really slowly, shell by shell

[stone bay]

oh

yeah i think that's just an artistic choice

[median shadow]

it's an odd one if that's all it is

particularly since the 1301 has better ergonomics and a feeding ramp which makes it faster to reload than the benelli m4 does

[stone bay]

i agree that 870 and beneli have very cool reloads and i wish all shotguns reloaded like that cuz i love it

also i'm sad that the 870 doesn't look as cool when you're holding it vs on the menu

[median shadow]

i like both, i just suspected there was a difference in how the guns show that were meant to balance that out

[lost inlet]

its the loading style, m4 and 870 load while 8 shells in your hand so you just need to put it in instead of b1301 and nova where you have to reach individual shell from the pouch to load into the gun

[median shadow]

yeah but i would figure that if they're going to make the reloading twice as long there is something that balances that out

[stoic hornet]

Hey, does anybody here know how to use the replay mode?

[lost inlet]

b1301 and nova hold 9 shells while m4 and 870 hold 8

and also better recoil control

[stoic hornet]

I don’t know how to use the replay mode and I would really like if somebody helped

[tacit gull]

What do you need?

[median shadow]

yeah i thought that about the recoil control

which again for the Benelli m4 and berretta 1301 should be reversed i think

[stoic hornet]

Instructions on how to get to the replay mode and how to save replays and stuff

[tacit gull]

There's an option to save replays in the settings, that's all you need

You need to turn it on every time you boot up the game i think

[stone bay]

what other thing can improve my survivability?

i always just run shield. Should i mirrorgun>?

[eternal relic]

heavy armor

[stone bay]

yeah i already run that

meant equipment

[eternal relic]

Gas is very useful for survivability

[fleet talon]

Level 4 plates, and a good easy to control weapon with good AP like BRN-180

The rest is up to aim and situational awareness skill

[stone bay]

ive always used a ballistic shield

[fleet talon]

It's not bad but feel like that takes alot of the fun out lol

[stone bay]

the launchers are only for non lethal

[median shadow]

are we talking SP or MP?

[stone bay]

sp

[median shadow]

because in SP you can literally make the bots do all the work for you

[stone bay]

they get themselves killed

[median shadow]

with heavy steel armor with full coverage?

[stone bay]

yeah

[median shadow]

what map

[stone bay]

any

they're not reliable

yea sometimes the bots waaay over extend and are out in texas alone

[median shadow]

have you tried having them do C2+plus gas in each door?

[stone bay]

no

bots don't even arrest suspects or follow commands

I tell them to move and they stand around doing nothing, i tell them to arrest and they dont

sometimes bots will start going off into connected rooms after clearing one

I had a bot walk off into the tunnels in Twisted Nerve after I told them to clear the garage

[median shadow]

the bots can be fucked up and need you to tell them to follow you before issuing another command

its annoying but im used to it

[open harness]

You guys have an explaination for the character UI at the bottom left of the screen, I don’t know whether Im near dead or just having a bullet in my arm

[stone bay]

you are always near dead 😛

[open harness]

that’s one hell of a mindset fit for this game

[stone bay]

When something goes red, it means you're hit there
When something goes dark red/brown, it means it's a broken limb
The outline of your character is your overall health. White is full, with darker reds being close to death

If you helmet gets shot you, you can see that it's removed from your character

also, if you hear medical beeping after getting shot it means you better watch yourself because you're near death

and you are always 2 bullets away from dying in this game no matter what you do

[open harness]

Ah, I see. Thanks for the info, now I feel somewhat more confident knowing I can tank another bullet

If you get shot repeatively in one part, death comes way faster, right?

[jolly verge]

nope

it's just become darker and then will be broken

really matter only for legs, since stopping bleed fully remove recoil debuff from arms

[stone bay]

Oh yeah never kick a door down with an injured lleg

[median shadow]

it gets worse?

bc that would be hillarious

[stone bay]

it gets worse

I've broken my leg on a door twice and you also lose health

[jolly verge]

you don't lose health if you kick with red leg

[stone bay]

i've had my outline go from red to brown and my leg from red to brown

and i broke the leg since i kicked once and then i couldn't again

[jolly verge]

it's leg health, not global one

[stone bay]

well at the least you definitely can break a leg on a door

[median shadow]

i wish the health icon was like Deus Ex 1 with greed to red

[jolly verge]

you can kick with red leg if you have kicker in team, but only till it's not broken

[stone bay]

there's really no reason to kick a door anyway

just lockpick everything and then open from a distance

[jolly verge]

kick might just update your real health, since outline will show health before hit, not after

[stone bay]

bro i stg why can't i pull out my sidearm when i'm reloading

this is so stupid, i reload my shotgun and a guy rounds the corner and i'm stuck with my thumb up my ass forced to just let him shoot me

[native rune]

People have been suggesting staged reload implementation for some time

Iirc insurgency sandstorm did that pretty well

[stone bay]

just let me cancel the reload i don't need staged reload or anything fancy

the whole point of a sidearm is exactly this situation

a second pair of pants for when your main pair is down

[median shadow]

i thought the clunkiness of the reloading and item switching was on purpose for the sake of encouraging players to stick together, simialr to Killing Floor 1

i could just be reading into that

[native rune]

If it was intentional we probably would’ve gotten a whole devblog schpealing about it

Not to say we havent, I’m not versed in the old testaments

[stone bay]

its just stupid

[prime wing]

Sounds about right

[stone bay]

no it doesnt

[prime wing]

Cancel reload its not an essential part of an fps, but its so prevalent that people get use to it

[stone bay]

what part about being forced to reload your weapon while getting shot in the chest sounds about right

you open both your hands and reach for the sidearm in that situation

[prime wing]

Encourages you to think twice about where and when you reload

[stone bay]

It's unreasonable to expect players to wedge a door everytime they wanna reload

suspects constantly push you, this game is unpredictable

you're never 100% safe, and getting killed while you're stuck being defenseless for no good reason feels unfair

because it kinda is

[native rune]

Neither is any kind of tactical competence.

[crude prism]

me reload canceling to save 0.4 seconds on a 1.2 second reload in KF2 so I can gunslinger (but cooler)

[native rune]

In most fps you can just fuck around and do whatever, in games where you can’t, you need different tools

[sharp geyser]

me dying to save 30 seconds on a 3s reload on Squad 44

[native rune]

Ron does supply different tools as such, leaning, the wand, teammates covering, and it emphasizes the importance of all those things. Standing there reloading 8 shells like a moron while getting plinked by a makarov is just pathetic and awkward, calling it for educational purposes is to me disingenuous

[crude prism]

I wonder how many people don't know you can reload cancel shotguns (which should still be improved because it cancels after like 1-2 more shells)

[sharp geyser]

But the reloads on RoN feels pretty fast already, thought it was pretty common to wedge important doors but I guess not

[prime wing]

I can just shoot

[crude prism]

Reloads in RoN ARE lightning fast, the exception is shotguns and maybe like... the taser (?)

[native rune]

We wouldn’t wanna improve that though, it would take away from the lesson

[crude prism]

oh and the 40mms

[prime wing]

Its not that difficult to have an ai cover you or a friend if you are reloading, wether the ai covers you or not thats a whole separate issue with the teammates having brain damage.

Gun swap however could be faster

[stone bay]

i fundamentally disagree

[native rune]

Ah yes we can rely on this other feature that is also unreliable and awkward, the ai teammates! How foolish of me

[stone bay]

but i get where you're coming from

[native rune]

I’d send that gif of the two dudes having an epiphany at a laptop if I could.

[umbral oar]

drake lil yachty tech gif

so when are they adding slide canceling

[open harness]

when there’s a cross over between RoN and Blue Archive

[sharp geyser]

Ye the reload for the rifles specifically feels really really fast, everything else feels normal'ish

[median shadow]

i haven't died much to reloading, thats been the least of my problems

[umbral oar]

george brixley plays that game

[acoustic ridge]

rifle and smgs reload are very fast, even empty reloads are fast, shotgun reloads take a comical amount of time to reload

[sharp geyser]

I want some of the stuff that judge is having

[crude prism]

dying to running out of ammo is skill issue

[tepid whale]

Ceramic plates tank headshots as judge homie is def doing steroids meant for a horse

[sharp geyser]

never died to reloading but I've died because a methed up guy ran towards the door I was mirroring and slammed the door on my face

[tepid whale]

the one time i forgot the mirror and was on the house that the guys boobytrapped and so i just booted the downstairs open and BOOM

[sharp geyser]

That's why I revoke their right of having doors

[tepid whale]

OH FUCK PLEASE LET ME THROW STUFF THRU WINDOWS I SHOT OUT

That makes zero sense that i can shoot thru it at enemies but my flash bounces off and they push because "outside got flashed"

[stone bay]

There’s a bag of cash in one of the upper bedrooms.

[tacit gull]

fis 🐟

[formal steeple]

I can't tell you guys how great it feels to mod maps for this game

I'm happy so many of you like them

[formal steeple]

👍 For Reference: https://mod.io/g/readyornot/u/limerick https://mod.io/u/limerick/

[shrewd oriole]

Void after releasing 1.0 resisting the erge to instantly talk about dlcs before fixing the game

[sudden marsh]

they spotlight crap we dont care about while the game is in a bad state
it shows where their mind as at right now.

[frail quartz]

I don't really mind as long as they're working on the fixes alongside it

[sudden marsh]

theres 0 guarantee they are actually doing what they said,
and 0 guarantee itll come out as expected or it being quality
so its a 50/50 chance, so i guess we gotta wait

[frail quartz]

I feel like you're going off a lot of assumptions here

[sudden marsh]

theres 0 assumptions besides how VOID has been during development

so far much disappointments

[frail quartz]

Yeah, I agree that 1.0 was extremely rushed and severely damaged my trust, but that doesn't make me see them as being completely incompetent

[sudden marsh]

lack of shader caching, meanwhile each update adding more and more complex shaders
seems incompetent to me

[frail quartz]

I'd say it's fair to be skeptical but saying that the chances of them being able to turn the game around are zero feels kind of far-fetched

[sudden marsh]

maybe, i just hope im wrong at the end of the day but then again VOID just caught us off guard so bad with how 1.0 was.

the devs need to start exhibiting some honesty tho and not charge full prices for games that are buggy.
regardless if a patch was in the works.

[fossil vine]

whats your guys favorite gun and why?

[stone bay]

I’m partial to the SA-58, primarily because 7.62x51 AP will kill anything in at least two shots.

[silk junco]

gun because bullet

[fossil vine]

really? im having alot of fun with shotgun slugs

[tacit gull]

The G36 or the MK18 are my favorites currently, they're both super reliable with the g36 having literally 0 recoil and it downs people with 2 shots to the chestt

[turbid ocean]

im sure this has been asked before but, how do i fix "connection to the host has been lost," it only happens when a specific friend joins
it like kicks me out
its weird

[tacit gull]

Is he using any mods?

[turbid ocean]

he has like 2

i have a few other ones

[tacit gull]

What do they do? does anybody else get kicked when he joins?

[turbid ocean]

nope just me

[safe cliff]

ping

thats been happening to me (tx) and 3 friends (2 tx 1 ca) the ca guy cant join but the tx dudes can

[turbid ocean]

two of us are from canada the other is in the states idk if that correlates

[tacit gull]

I've played with people on the other side of the planet but haven't been kicked though

[safe cliff]

it might just happen when theres a handful of mods involved

[turbid ocean]

idk its weird

ive been fiddling with my mods

[safe cliff]

i just spam rehost/swap hosts with other people and it eventually works

[sharp geyser]

From the vanilla game prob the MK18, tho I have a modded Q Honey Badger since it's hands down my favorite gun

also the SA-58 because it feels nice to slam someone's head with a 7.62 NATO

[turbid ocean]

i dont got the patient for that ill just give up

[prime wing]

sa58 enjoyer himself

[sharp geyser]

SA-58 is nuts for a solo playthrough

[frail quartz]

LVAR since I love the MCX platform and the short integrated silencer + .300 blackout is just 👌

[white epoch]

is there a way that I can purchase the Supporter edition

[prime wing]

not anymore no

[white epoch]

dammit

i want that PC19

[prime wing]

you are not missing anything really

[white epoch]

i want the rifle and sidearm

i think that they look cool

[acoustic ridge]

arwc looks cool and doesnt have too much recoil

[stone bay]

are suspects designed to push you when you toss a nade

[silk junco]

the model is so old

[prime wing]

i know it mods your game, but a modded glock is probably gonna look 20 times better

for free

[stone bay]

which ones?

[frail quartz]

They're talking about the BCM and PC19 guns that come with the supporter edition

[pearl shuttle]

Yeah and you're better off using the HRT MK4 on the Nexus if you want to larp as the feds

[stone bay]

pc19 is actually cool

it has much more character than the regular glock

[pearl shuttle]

tbh i just thought it was "we have the sai glock at home"

[stone bay]

the regular glock is so.. boring

[pearl shuttle]

Glocks are boring

[stone bay]

yeah, fair. I'm more of a sig guy

glocks can look nice though

it's just the default look that's just incredibly bland and unappealing

[pearl shuttle]

They should add a Hi-Point

[stone bay]

vomit

it should act like armor for your pistol arm when using a shield

[frail quartz]

There's definitely a lot sexier looking guns out there, but I think Glocks are also beautiful in their simplicity

[stone bay]

they are yeah

[frail quartz]

Nah, Zip .22

[stone bay]

it's weird to me because glock is incredibly affordable, reliable, robust, and widespread, but everytime i look at it i'm like "...that's it?"

[mental fable]

Guys, is it true that Void got hacked last month ?

[stone bay]

I just had to issue a move and sting order three times before my AI got the fucking hint.

[median shadow]

what does armor coverage do exactly/

like if I choose front only, does that give me 100% of armor protection in the front, while front-back-sides gives me 25%-25%-25% ?

why would i choose less coverage?

[tacit gull]

I think so

[shadow osprey]

i think less coverage/different armor type affect running speed, due to weight

[tacit gull]

It just decides where you have plates, if you dont have coverage in one side it's automatically filled with kevlar

There's no point to not running all sides unless you're running steel or you like using light armor

[stable kernel]

Light armor only allows front and back at most, heavy allows all three. But if you are running steel you suffer from movement acceleration penalty for every plate (front, back, and side) you use.

No reason to ever run steel IMO, unless you are using a mod to increase your health by a lot. If you are, then the reduced damage through steel might give you survivability better than breaking plates from ceramic.

[stone bay]

maybe the nutritionist can keep you from shidding your pants

I should try ceramic, i've only used steel

thing is i've had instances where i straight up tank like a magazine of ammo into my chest with steel

[hollow rampart]

Hello there. I have the biggest question about Ready or Not. You see, I want to play the game on my Steam Deck on the go, but I am having the hardest time trying to figure things out. I know for a fact that there's not official Steam layout for the deck so I am left with having to come up with my own controls to play the game, but doing so has made this even more difficult! Is there like a well suited layout here or is there one in the works I could try out for.l the game?

[stone bay]

this runs on the steam deck?

[hollow rampart]

It does but the controls are alot.

[stone bay]

damn.

[hollow rampart]

I'm just hoping for a good Steam Deck layout or maybe hope for an official Ready or not layout for the players can use.

[stable kernel]

I think you'll just have to wait until the game gets official developer support for steamdeck. Or perhaps when they decide to add controller support it might get better as well.

There is mostly implemented controller bindings in the files, but I think they just gave up on it at some point when they realized there are too many keybinds.

[stone bay]

there are a bunch of controls you don't really need to play this game that you can unbind

You don't need:
Pulling out cuffs
dedicated grenade button
dedicated utility button (taser, c2, wedge)
stance mode (it's useful, but not necessary)
crouching
weapon down stance(makes you move faster)
teammates cameras

[pearl shuttle]

Ceramic is also currently bugged, making it the best armor in the game

[stone bay]

actually is crouching necessary to disabling traps

that might be a thing

[pearl shuttle]

Not in my experience

[stone bay]

so yeah there's like 7-8 things you don't need

hope this helped?

[earnest phoenix]

33% change to jam, 33% chance to explode in your hands and 33% chance to actually shoot and tickle the suspect

[tropic kettle]

please add a open mic

[shadow osprey]

i do use
crouch: less noise, taking cover peeking corners
low ready: move faster, take cover faster
teammates cam: we play tactically, we check them to be aware of where our teammates are.
dedicated tools: prepare for door wedging before i even approach the door. Too many times got door kicked in the face, because wedging with mouse pointing takes too long.

[open harness]

Do the suspects be alarmed if we peek the door and then open it

[shadow osprey]

peek door: no
push door open with your shoulder: no
push door wide open with Open Door action: yes they hear this

[open harness]

Also, aren't some attachments just outright superior than others with the amount of stats

[shadow osprey]

kicking door is a guarantee that they will shoot thu door also.

[open harness]

ah I see, I thought if we peeked and then opened, the suspects wouldn't be notified

[shadow osprey]

provided you're walking/crouching. They will hear running.

[safe veldt]

how do i change my ingame name?

[stone bay]

Is it just me, or do the radio dispatchers you hear on Twisted Nerve have noticeable New York accents despite this supposedly being an even more fucked up variant of California?

[sharp fox]

i shot a civ because she was reaching when i was aiming my pistol at her, now i lost points 😔

[open harness]

what not to do: reach for your phone when there's a SA 58 pointing at you

[stone bay]

Or for anything at all. That’s an excellent way to catch a bullet in the brain.

[sharp fox]

the person i shot was blonde so that might explain things

[silk sail]

[sleek ridge]

If you guys want to join an active new group for ready or not DM me so I could invite you to the server I am looking for High Command members who know what their doing

[autumn willow]

No

[sharp geyser]

bro's not even here anymore

[lost inlet]

[autumn willow]

Anyone who advertises then immediately leaves smell like a garbage truck

[stone bay]

No but you don't need to press 4 to wedge

Just look at the door

That's what I meant

[strong sonnet]

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[stone bay]

I just went insane on mindjot

John wick type shit

[stone bay]

Letting your guard down is a great way to get dead in this game.

[sharp geyser]

I'm gonna do solo Mindjot in a sec

on iron man mode

[stone bay]

i just did that

I took out half the map with a shield

[median shadow]

trying RON with self+bots no armor ... so far is hillarious

[crude prism]

pain simulator

[acoustic ridge]

revolver only no armor no ai no utility no long tactical would be fun

[late idol]

I finally got my iron man done without losing anyone, but the watch didn't unlock for me. Is there anything I can do?

The achievements worked fine

got both The World and The Hermit

[sharp geyser]

I've done both but haven't unlocked the watch as well

[late idol]

sadge

i want to flex with pixels in police game

[acoustic ridge]

at that point just use cosmetic unlocker mod since you actually did it i dont think its cheating

[late idol]

how does that work?

[sharp geyser]

it's a mod that unlocks all the cosmetic items

[late idol]

and will that only unlock it while running the mod?

or unlock them once and they stay unlocked

[sharp geyser]

they stay unlocked for the save that you've loaded with the mod active

[late idol]

but not multiplayer?

[sharp geyser]

not sure, never played multiplayer

[late idol]

oh ok

[stone bay]

it's a lil sad how there's 3 300blk rifles and all the 556 ones are just.. lesser

[sudden marsh]

it does for multiplayer, both parties need the mod

atleast in co-op

in multiplayer it might be the same case, more or less

i think mods do load in MP

[median shadow]

not that bad actually

[stone bay]

why is it called cs gas

also does it damage you

oh shit

it does i just killed myself with gas e

[jolly verge]

yes, 0.2 damage per 1 second

[sudden marsh]

cuz its from counter strike

[stone bay]

initials of the inventors

[tacit gull]

counter strike gas

[velvet kettle]

Anyone seen a suspect trigger their own trap?

[stable kernel]

They can, but they have to walk very close to the wire. It doesn't happen very often.

If it's a frag trap they won't die, just be staggered instead.

[acoustic ridge]

why do the bombers on neon club never surrender, i have tried s ranking and with 5 people yelling for compliance+beanbags vks taser and melee still doesnt surrender

[muted star]

Wonder why a guy how wants to blow himself up doesn't want to surrender

[median shadow]

i have super mixed feeling about this

[stable kernel]

There is a bug where S-vest suspects will sometimes not surrender if a swat member is too close. You and your team need to be farther away, preferably backing up while they are still stunned.

[acoustic ridge]

that explains it, every time ive had that issue we all have been surrounding them

[crude prism]

they can accidentally trigger them randomly across the map from you for no reason

otherwise you could have people dying 1000% out of your control

[median shadow]

yeah i get that, which would sometimes be super annoying, but other times it would just be hillarious

[tacit gull]

I wish there was a compromise where dumbass shit like that can happen but you can still finish a mission seriously with a fair score

[median shadow]

if the enemies got knocked out but with the ability to get up again, like with C2, that would be a decent in-between

[muted star]

Ye good idea

[tacit gull]

Still, they're running into frag grenades, that would still be goofy

[frail quartz]

Realistically, if I set up a grenade trap on the other side of a door, I'm going to remember which one I put it behind with my life and avoid it like the plague

Surely the fear of not wanting to turn into a red smudge on the ground would surpass over any adrenaline you could be feeling, right?

Although I guess I've never set up a Rube Goldberg machine to set off a grenade and I've only been shot at by SWAT once or twice before, I wouldn't be very experienced with the subject

[median shadow]

from the Ukraine war footage Ive seen, grenades can definitely fuck you up without killing you, so maybe knocking enemies down is actually legit

[frail quartz]

I feel like a good compromise would be:
If an npc activates the trap; only incapacitate anyone in the blast range.
If a player activates the trap; it behaves as normal

[median shadow]

incapacitates and kills are counted as the same thing though

[frail quartz]

Ah crap, I forgot

[median shadow]

yeah, its silly

[frail quartz]

It's not counted as the same with civilians, is it?

[median shadow]

arrested civilian is +35 points, an incapacitated civilians is +5, like a suspect, so there is a difference

[frail quartz]

I haven't really accidentally incapacitated one since then, but this one time when I accidentally incapacitated a civilian pre-1.0, I got points off for unauthorized use of force, but no penalty for a civilian killed

[frail quartz]

I know, I'm talking about the "CIVILIAN KILLED" penalty

Does it still give you that even if they're incapacitated?

[charred meteor]

pluh

[velvet kettle]

Yo who these random guys carring bodies back to the truck?

[median shadow]

nope

[velvet kettle]

Disappeared as soon as they dropped the body

[tacit gull]

They're trailers, they come in after you finish the mission to take people to the bearcat

[velvet kettle]

interesting, does it stop the bleed out timer?

[tacit gull]

No, that's too fast

And they only come in after the entire mission is over

[crude prism]

Imo the game needs more of this safety-netting until the devs can make real solutions.

You shouldn't be penalized for things that are dumb and out of your control.

IE: suspects shooting each other in the back of the head because the AI doesn't "see" the other AI

[median shadow]

yeah, arguably it shouldn't even happen in the first place, but whatever

[crude prism]

The bots should just go back to not triggering tripwires

they theoretically should know where traps are, so could open doors and step over appropriately (just make it so they dont trigger lul)

[tacit gull]

I think they should be able to trigger tripwires but it should make sense why it happens, the game needs more chaos as right now it's incredibly formulaic

[crude prism]

Yeah, that's a MUCH bigger problem with how the entire AI systems are built around AI acting independently

[sharp geyser]

they should just write their locations down

[crude prism]

The game needs to be mixed with "events" that could be placed around maps randomly to add to the challenge/chaos

[frail quartz]

1.0 helped, but I still think there's a lot of aspects of the game that are still too predictable

There's still the problem of 50% of the map going unused for suspect spawning/concealment

[tacit gull]

A few setpieces that can randomly happen on each level would be nice, but i think organic interactions need to be expanded aswell

[crude prism]

Organic hostage taking still doesn't work right and is like top 5 most visible issues right now based on posts made LULW

[tacit gull]

Everything is broken about it, from SWAT AI completely ignoring human shields to civilains not dying when executed to them getting stuck once the suspect dies

[frail quartz]

Do you guys think making the spawn locations of certain VIPs like Brixley and Voll less predictable would make apprehending them too difficult orr?

Because at the moment I can just kind of go "Oh, we're approaching the place Voll usually spawns, beter pull out my taser"

[tacit gull]

I think suspects and especially VIPs spawning in the same place everytime is LETHAL to replayability

[crude prism]

I'm pretty sure that VIP spawns were standardized for Voll + Brixley only on 1.0

Qadamah has wildly varying spawns

So does Gerard

[frail quartz]

Nah, I played Valley of Dolls a lot pre-1.0 and Voll spawned in either the kitchen or the theater room 99% of the time

[crude prism]

He used to be in the basement + roam outside a lot too. But yes still biased to inside

[tacit gull]

The best way for levels to remain fresh especially with the current systems we have in place is having suspects in completely unexpected places

[frail quartz]

I don't recall ever seeing Voll outside of those areas but maybe RNGesus decided to make things easy for me

[crude prism]

Adams (FISA dude) is also a pretty random-heavy spawner

Office, outback, packing lines, side office, all of it

[frail quartz]

Exactly, there's so many side rooms, nooks, and crannies that go completely unutilized

[tacit gull]

Once you get so acquainted with the game that you can tell what is coming up next corner the game stops being fun and exciting

[crude prism]

I wish that suspects were better at prohibiting player movements when alerted.

Either by effectively executing ambushes, or by being able to block points of entry to delay progress

[frail quartz]

I think this problem is most prevalent on Brisa Cove where the map designers added in so many bathrooms, closets, and other small areas only for suspects to not spawn in them at all

[tacit gull]

It needs to keep you in this constant loop of being a "new player" with dynamic and emergent gameplay

[crude prism]

Imo the hard suspect nerf still needs to be walked back. Not all the way, but really needs to be bumped back up

(also outstanding bugs that make the player more than 2x tankier than they're supposed to be compared to 1.0)

[tacit gull]

I'd rather they focus on making suspects interesting again than making them aim better

[crude prism]

Short term and long term changes my friend

[tacit gull]

When playing with some ai mods i noticed i would eat bullets like nothing, it genuienly feels like we have too much health now

[crude prism]

Game is currently too easy
Too easy = minimum engagement needed by players to succeed, players don't engage with game mechanics because you can just run around and shoot everyone down

[crude prism]

when u can currently take 33 rifle hits without taking damage as long as you bring an armorer along

certified balanceTM

[tacit gull]

Too bad i don't touch commander anymore

[tropic kettle]

wait so there hasnt been an update since 2022?

[crude prism]

what

[tropic kettle]

im asking

[tacit gull]

There have been patches

But no major update

[crude prism]

Since 2022? Big ass updates

[tropic kettle]

but nno major updates?

oh

[tacit gull]

oh wait no

[crude prism]

2022?

[tropic kettle]

#dev-updates ?????????

[tacit gull]

There have been updates since 2022, yes

[tropic kettle]

Ali — 10/14/2022 11:51 PM
Ridgelines' Gerard Rat-Like Flanking Maneuvers. Crawling through vents and traversing through wall gaps. Be careful

oct 2022..

[crude prism]

dev updates are just behind the scenes teaser things

mostly they fold these into the steam news articles now

dev-updates still being here is just for history it seems like

go to #announcements

[crude prism]

but why not? they finally made (some of) the traits actually work

[prime wing]

give us the schizo trait

[tacit gull]

Ahem, the AI is too dumb for my taste, it leads to frustration i'd rather not have

I still haven't technically finished a commander mode save nor a full practice mode run with the AI

[crude prism]

fair

[tacit gull]

The way i play where i actually try to take people in alive is also soul sucking due to me dying because tasers go through people and grenades can just decide to be ineffective

[frail quartz]

Yeah, I've had a few too many suspects have an immunity to flashbangs recently

[tacit gull]

And it's not even like intentional immunity, i'd be fine with it if it was

[frail quartz]

I mean, even if it was intentional, it isn't very fun to have suspects hail bullets at you while your vision is still obscured by the thick smoke cloud

[tacit gull]

If you're talking about CS gas then that itself should be transparent, i think someone with a gas mask shrugging off gas is perfectly reasonable

[frail quartz]

I'm referring to flashbangs

[frail quartz]

It's especially inconvenient when you're playing with an ai mod that that returns the brisa cove suspects to their pre-1.0 state that snipe you in 0.5 seconds

A lot of my problems could be fixed by just switching to the built in easier version of the mod but my pride is too powerful to play with anything labeled as a below-average difficulty 😤

[shy tulip]

Literal skill issue

[frail quartz]

It probably is 😔

[crude prism]

certified grenades blocked by a piece of paper on the floor moment

[prime wing]

ghost grenades

the latest in advanced warfare

[tacit gull]

Well that's just how it is with VFX, i don't think there's a reasonable way to make smoke from flashes or debris from gunshots affect AI consistently

[prime wing]

I love throwing a flashbang and it going through a concrete wall

[shy tulip]

(Not without tanking your CPU)

[tacit gull]

why aren't the real police using this???

[acoustic ridge]

i hate how cs gas makes me not be able to see the hostiles, but they can see me

[upbeat shore]

Budget reasons.

[prime wing]

Pray that there are no babies in the other side

if there are, too bad

[shy tulip]

Too soon

[tacit gull]

I guess other departments are defunded like los suenos and they can't invest in wormhole technology 😔

[upbeat shore]

Shame really.

[frail quartz]

Would it be possible as a bandaid solution maybe to have an accuracy debuff to any suspects firing at players detected to be within hitbox of the gas cloud?

[tacit gull]

Just make it phase through the baby

[frail quartz]

We're all getting paid leave!! 🎉

[crude prism]

The real solution is the give grenades multiple area of effect zones, that 100% ignore obstacles/cover/clutter/etc

[shy tulip]

ignores wall

[crude prism]

yes

[frail quartz]

Would that also make it ignore your gasmask?

[tacit gull]

Or atleast have a hybrid system that determines effectiveness both on AoE and LOS

[crude prism]

when the flashbang has no bang currently, only a flash

[upbeat shore]

So.. Zeus is actually a SWAT officer

[prime wing]

everybody be asking about flashing this and flashing that, but nobody banging 😞 ☝️

[frail quartz]

Do SWAT wear ear protection like soldiers do?

[shy tulip]

I wish I enabled replay for my brisa cove game early. hit some fuckin sick shots with flashbangs

Yeeted that bitch over the piano and straight into a suspects face

[prime wing]

They should. By default.

[crude prism]

you're at LEAST wearing earplugs if it's a jump-out scenario, but you're realistically wearing actual earpro/radio combos most of the time

[tacit gull]

We're on RONcord of course nobody's banging

[prime wing]

Judge "The Flasher" Beaumont

[crude prism]

Hey Judge how did you get that nickname?

[prime wing]

Dont judge him too hard

[tacit gull]

Let's just say Judge is on more than one list

[prime wing]

whats worst, offender list or mk ultra subject list

[shy tulip]

They're the same list

[tacit gull]

both girard and judge are on both

fact

[prime wing]

https://tenor.com/view/morgan-freeman-true-hes-right-you-know-hes-right-you-know-meme-gif-27526609

[tacit gull]

Write this into the lore

[prime wing]

Gerard really went out with a banger

[tacit gull]

Is that what they meant when they said suspects are gonna be able to use flashes????

[prime wing]

https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/-NnIa_B4DJj9R-9CTXPVJKI0qT7y2lZt9RUyBtzw74k/https/staticdelivery.nexusmods.com/mods/4205/images/3968/3968-1713890935-1049688625.jpeg?format=webp&width=1629&height=916

[frail quartz]

Taxpayer dollars well spent

[prime wing]

The Zoomer

[shy tulip]

in b4 RoN damage system update

RoN will now factor in how much damage you do and if you do more than $1k damage you get an F automatically

Including bullet holes and damage from flashes

[humble mauve]

like the ghostbusters game (the good one)

[shy tulip]

There was a ghost busters game?

[humble mauve]

yeah ghostbusters the video game

[tacit gull]

the movie: the videogame

[tacit gull]

Also i've seen this, this is the worst thing ever

Bro actually has RON hud in real life

[prime wing]

Wearing that in public is basically asking to get robbed

[tacit gull]

What are they gonna do? Remove your eyes?

[frail quartz]

I'm the one with the MK18 MOD0 here

(Oh shit but what if the robber has an MK18 MOD1...)

[prime wing]

Run if you see a kia pulling up

[graceful pebble]

nahh just pull out the nokia

[prime wing]

Big brain

Holy shit

[graceful pebble]

ty

i try to use it at least once a day

[tropic kettle]

how do i install mods into ready or not through nexus?

[shy tulip]

#❓modding-faq-archive

[tropic kettle]

ok, i have a question tho, can i put all the mod files in a folder and drop them in?

or do i need each individual file

like seperatly @shy tulip

[shy tulip]

You can put the raw paks in a mods folder and put it in the paks folder and it will work. But you cannot put the rars you download in and expect them to work, the game will not read them

[tropic kettle]

i mean, i installed gunfighter, and theres like 10 zips

can i put all the zips in one folder and drag and drop like that

or do the files need to be seperate

[shy tulip]

Gunfighter has different parts, you only need to download the all in one if you want to use it all

I would say create a mods folder and put all the mods in that one folder. I don't know if the game is gonna work right if you put different mods in different folders.

[tropic kettle]

it wont let me download at once

can i screen share in a vc?

@shy tulip

[shy tulip]

The all in one is one download. Gunfighter has the core all in one mod and then the individual parts of the mod incase you want one thing but not the others.

Read the descriptions on each file install

[tropic kettle]

its just updates

[tropic kettle]

im using nexus

@shy tulip can you join us 4

nvm

[shy tulip]

I cannot

And the image above is Nexusmods

[soft narwhal]

i loved this game

so good

[stone bay]

wow you can actually talk suspects out of shooting you

all you have to do is just shout at them 15 times

[drifting sand]

I wish the flashlights actually stunned suspects; that and having a separate flashlight that's not gun mounted.

[median shadow]

im beginning to think that as far as the weapons are concerned, 5.56 is for armored enemies, while 300 blk is for unarmoured enemies

unarmoured enemies tend to be in larger groups, while armoured enemies are less numerous

maybe even SMGs would be better for unarmoured enemies that 300 blk

normally it doesn't matter that much, but on zero armor playthroughs, each shot counts in a way it usually doesn't as much

[drifting sand]

That's really going to take looking at the stats on what the rounds actually do in game.

IRL I'd say the opposite would be true. .300bl would be a round that defeats armour quite easily but doesn't do much damage past that on account of the smaller bullet; something I'd load with hollow points because the added power behind the round would make up for the armour pen issues that may arise from the hollow point.

[stone bay]

what's the point of 556 if you get the same amount of 300blk

take the bigger round and laugh

[stone bay]

prersonally the .300blk just feels underwhelming, probably has something to do with it being subsonic ammo

[lost inlet]

you mean in game or irl?

[stone bay]

in game

I'm pretty sure in game there's no option for super sonic ammo

[lost inlet]

nope only jhp and ap

[stone bay]

what I mean is for the .300blk those are both sub sonic

other calibers those are both super sonic

[lost inlet]

dont know much about subsonic, only known mp5sd with subsonic rounds achieved being true quiet gun

[stone stump]

wdym smaller bullet? .300 BLK has 7.62 in diameter

another thing is that 300 BLK (in the game) isn't really subsonic

[drifting sand]

The bullet or the cartridge?

[stone stump]

bullet

[inland wolf]

its a 7.62 bullet with a 5.56 casing iirc

[stone bay]

You guys have any idea what the new guns will be on the upcoming DLC ?

[rapid tusk]

yup, it goes terrible against socom f90

[stone bay]

yea the F90 is probably my favorite

[rapid tusk]

literally grab socom f90 and you are both assault and marksman capable of beating the shit out of any armored and unarmored suspect

i once managed to go like that, a dude appeared on stairs and just got instant headshot

[stone bay]

[rapid tusk]

onetapped him into doa state

due to being scared to death

and that was a marksman loadout initially

with ballistic mask and heavy full ceramic

i dont to aim to drop

i need to aim to not kill

while still targeting vitals

[open harness]

Most optimal setup for the F90?

[earnest phoenix]

if youre going to shoot anyone theres no real reason to targeting non vital areas instead of just shooting to kill

just gives the suspect a chance to shoot back and theres no point difference between incap and dead

[rapid tusk]

there is the thing

you get more points for incap

and they count toward arrests in missions where you need a guy or few alive

such as ides of march where you need three arrests

neon tomb where you need a leader arrested

carrier of the vine with two arrest warrants

23 megabytes a second

[drifting sand]

Huh

I thought it was the opposite.

Which does now beg the question; what's the niche for it?

[rapid tusk]

how

just how it is possible

[stone bay]

it doesn't use a 5.56 casing

[earnest phoenix]

you get 5 points for reporting an incap and dead suspect and 35 for alive

[rapid tusk]

still feels better in terms of morale

[inland wolf]

it was necked up wasnt it

[rapid tusk]

and i like listening to them crying like a bunch of babies every time

instead of just dying in seconds

[inland wolf]

to me it looks like it is cut down and then expanded to fit the 7.62 bullet

[sharp fox]

why do these silly suspects cry out in pain after i execute them
immersion ruined!!!!

[rapid tusk]

whats that thing with gamma one experiment btw

just a conspiracy theory placeholder mcguffin?

[lost inlet]

FSR sight, SFMB muzzle brake, Combat grip, flashlight

[lost inlet]

thats why you bring buckshot and aim for the head, cant scream if you have no head

[rapid tusk]

yeah i like m1014 for that

makes me feel bad after half of the encounters

[sharp geyser]

Just grab a SA-58 and offer blood to the blood god

[rapid tusk]

ive got m1014 for that and magnum 357

[sharp fox]

so the shooters in elephant CAN actually yell out and pretend to be civilians

did not know this until now

[teal nexus]

I hope most of RoN players don’t become real cops because yall some real mean people

[stone bay]

what happned

[teal nexus]

Shi like this lmao

[fervent terrace]

do you know if the dlc will be free to beta players?

[lost inlet]

dlc only free for ppl already brought Supporter edition

[fervent terrace]

ok

[tacit scaffold]

“Whens my patrol car being patched”

[thorn summit]

i unsubbed to all mods and my game still says im modded, i know sometimes loading into safe and then quitting and loading regular fixes it sometimes but this time i just dont know

[tacit gull]

You need to manually delete them from the game folder

[thorn summit]

can i just delete the entire mod.io folder then verify game files?

[tacit gull]

You can just delete it

No need to verify i don't think, it should be auto generated on start up

[thorn summit]

aight thanks

[open harness]

I dont see the FSR sight in the loadout

[lost inlet]

the one give you the biggest sight window

wait, i think its the SRS sight not the FSR sry

[open harness]

There's a SRS ye

[median shadow]

i wish i understood why the bot's inventory system is as fucked up as it is

just flat out not having access to grenades in their inventory that are supposed to be there

or each team only being able to use their grenade launchers once

[steep juniper]

Why can't i download a mod, It says "subscription failed"

[molten wren]

I mean the CIA hit squad is always there

[median shadow]

Don't worry, we'll be trained to just C2 all the doors and CS Gas all the rooms

RON teaches future polie officer how to responsibley use explosives and chemical weapons

[fair tide]

I'm just gonna ask straight up bc I'm kinda nervous and I want to be sure I'm in a safe space bc I've had so many bad expierences with me wanting to play a game with people in these sort of servers where they were just so mean and toxic to me and I really don't want to surround myself with those types of people. Is this server safe for trans people. This isn't a political thing. I just genuinely feel uncomfortable when people just intentionally misgender me (I'm fine with accidental but not intentional) and just called me slurs and I want to be sure that I'm safe to express myself here. I obviously have a personality outside of that. But I just want to be sure I'm safe here. I just want to make sure I don't run into the same problem like I have been in other lfg servers.

[median shadow]

I don't think anybody cares

[fair tide]

That's good. Thank you. I know it's stupid for me to ask but I really don't want to relive that again.

[median shadow]

But no you're not in a safe space, they don't exist, anymore than a gun-free zone does

this kind of brings me back to why this game needs a server browser

it should be possible to find a regular server that is regularly populated and just frequent that server on a regular basis

I hate how games have been trending in the direction of taking away that level of player control, sure COD does it, but that should have stayed a unique thing to COD

Maybe don't give people ammo

[fair tide]

True yh let me delete this

[sharp geyser]

Kinda like BF4

you can filter by region, map, gamemode, etc and you can see your recent servers

[median shadow]

there is that, but when I was young a server you played on regularily was sort of a community or group you belonged to

[sharp geyser]

yep clan servers mostly

[median shadow]

something like that

in general, a player who comes to a server you host is a contributer in their own way of providing part of the population, which makes their presence a contribution in itself to be appreciated

as opposed to simply being there because a system randomly selected him for that and will also redirected him elsewhere just as quickly

[sharp fox]

i mean you should be fine here

if someone is a meany weany to you just tell a mod

[amber dock]

^

[covert tulip]

When update

[cosmic kettle]

Hey I've got a question about the lore but it's kind of a spoiler, so can I ask a question ||like this, please ?||

[covert tulip]

Sure

[cosmic kettle]

SPOILERS !!!
||At the very end of the game, after the Port mission, the last zone of the police station is now unlocked : The (new) Listening Room and the Memorial. But in the new listening room, there's a gap in it where we can see some old recording things (sorry if my english isn't correct, I'm french), but what do they represent ? Are they mentionned in the lore at any given points ? Why is it here ? Why at the end of the game only we discover them ?||

Sorry for my bad english, I'm still learning the language

If needed, I can join an image (with the spoiler tag) in #🎨ron-screenshots-and-art

[sudden marsh]

Spring maybe

[median shadow]

I kinda gave up hope of the game ever being finished before I stop playing it

I have no idea what the timeline is supposed to be for this game to be finished and polished and just things about it like the AI constantly needing to be reset in terms of getting them to do what they're supposed to doesn't give me a lot of confidence

[proven blade]

The dialogue doesn’t match the voice lines

Voiceline: “Threat is down!”

Dialogue: “Threat us down!“

[acoustic ridge]

judge's chemlight subtitle sometimes has a space between chem and light, and also sometimes the first letter isnt capitalized
this is game breaking pls fix

[proven blade]

It’s the developers I think

[silk junco]

its the voice to text thing they used

[proven blade]

Maybe someone got lazy and didn’t write the dialogue correctly

[silk junco]

they used voice to text

[proven blade]

I’m sorry they use WHAT

WHY

[silk junco]

easier? idk

[crude prism]

(not excusing, best guess)

Because 1.0 added like 30,000 voiclines or something stupid

[proven blade]

Well yeah but also kinda lazy and ends up with errors

[proven blade]

What

[umbral oar]

something stupid like i love you

[proven blade]

Are you saying by like all 20 officers

[crude prism]

there's an absurd amount of voicelines, and the subtitle system was seemingly added late in dev

1600 per officer btw

[proven blade]

How

It’s just arresting voice lines

Commanding voice lines

Misc voice lines

How is all of that 16 hundre

[crude prism]

"The VO file for each character includes 12 CSV files for language subtitles
158 folders * 12 CSV files + 1 csv in the main directory

1897 csv files out of 41957 total files
So just over 40k voicelines"

-quote me a few months ago

[proven blade]

That’s torture

Having to perform 1600 voice lines

And imagine you are like that uh hammer guy

I’ve never heard anyone use his vl before

[crude prism]

it does seem like a lot are map specific, but there is quiet and loud versions of each

which is why it seems so bloated too

[sharp geyser]

"entry team to TOC. OFFICER DOWN"

[crude prism]

entry team to TOC. officer eepy

[balmy kelp]

VO mods dont work fsr, anytime i replace them, i load up the game and they go back to the base voice lines

[tacit gull]

They work if they're not outdated

And you're not using mod.io

[balmy kelp]

outdated since?

[tacit gull]

1.0

[balmy kelp]

damnit

alright ty

is there any way to stop them from being automatically replaced?

[tacit gull]

Automatically replaced?

[balmy kelp]

when i load the game become normal from the ones i put in there and when i check vo files again theyre back to base game

[tacit gull]

I don't think that can happen, are you sure?

[balmy kelp]

for example i replaced the swat with israel voices mod and I definitely replaced them within the files before loading the game, but i load the game, go to the firing range and yell and theyre base game so i check the files again and theyre back to base game

i can try again and see if it happens again

hmm that seems to be my mistake now its just not playing any audio clip when i yell thats my bad

is there any reason in particular that they dont work?

[tacit gull]

1.0 uses a different file format for the VO files

So if you really want it to work you need to convert the files

[balmy kelp]

so its not possible to fix unless updated/converted?

[shy tulip]

Yes, that is the responsibility of the mod author to do

[median shadow]

are far as game lore goes, i think just due to the content not all being out yet (upcoming new maps) that I don't think its possible to know the whole story yet

1.0 release is not a final release, which is fine

[formal steeple]

Pff, i'm the most stubborn A-Hole i know rn... ONLY 10 NPCs will spawn in a Custom Map, i had Civilian Count @ 7 and Suspect count @ 12 ... Just reduced Civ to 3 and Max Sus to 12, much better gameplay, the Sus will rotate from the extra 2, 3 civs show up.

[silk junco]

good for you..?

[formal steeple]

yeah but good to know too

thanks for technically breaking the rules with Disrespect on my account, thank you for that

Honestly i could've sowrn more suspects spawned, i think i had 15 in venice

[umbral oar]

what was your map called again?

i might start trying modded maps

[formal steeple]

Billion Dollar Yacht, just updated it with Giant Tuna and Tropical Fish near Spawn in the water... Plenty of Suspects and enough Civs (3)

The SW4T (SWAT 4 Remakes) are definitely worth it

Private Airport is a remake from R6 3 and it's genuine

[umbral oar]

thanks

[formal steeple]

np m8

[shy tulip]

The million dollar penthouse

[median shadow]

still working on no SWAT armor run, almost done hide-and-seek

[formal steeple]

Yeah it's a play on "Billionaire's Yacht" From Splinter Cell Blacklist DLC ... I don't know if i can pull it off, but once the Yacht has indoor rooms like a Casino, flashy Luxe' stuff like that i can put traps on Custom Doors.

doors take trial and error

[median shadow]

it feels like even if I die, as long as I'm taking in at least a couple of arrests with the flash bang grenade launcher, their moral still goes up even if the mission is a failure

[formal steeple]

I haven't gone Full Ham with the CS Gas Launcher in over a year

it's pretty funny when none of the other guys have masks and it's just a coughing round-up

[shy tulip]

Temu gas filter

[formal steeple]

like arresting hippies at Lolapalooza

[shy tulip]

Probably, and honestly it doesn't sound like a bad mechanic. It encourages arrests, and you're not playing ironman mode as is

[crude prism]

the natural morale loss you get for failing a mission is really small, as long as only you die, it's pretty much nil

arrest like 1-2 guys, die, positive morale lul

[median shadow]

lol yeah, its interesting

[modest bear]

How do I talk to my squad mates? Also, if all of them die do I just lose and have to restart my save?

[median shadow]

did you do the tutorial?

you can give them command and that's all the talking

and squad mates are just bots, if they die, they're replaced

[modest bear]

"be sure to talk to your squadmates" was in the tutorial when dealing with squad mental state

[median shadow]

lol what?

assuming that's true, thats hillarious

[shy tulip]

That's most likely just fluff or mentioning how the swat can talk about certain things around maps

[jolly verge]

If that means squad mates stress then you either send them to therapy or out them from roster for passive stress loss per mission

[median shadow]

yeah, thats all it is

are first I thought it was something like each character was an important part of the SP campaign and them being gone would be a huge deal

like RPGs I've played

[shy tulip]

Stop playing with explosives

[sharp geyser]

glad that I found out since the very beginning that they'd be expendable

[median shadow]

not only are they expendable, you can't get ride of them at all

even if you have none in your roster, they'll still spawn 4 AI SWAT

[sharp geyser]

ye it's annoying because if you want to play solo you have to install a mod to remove team AI

[modest bear]

what are the "soft objectives"

[shy tulip]

They're optional objectives on the map that you can find for points, but are not required to leave the map

Such as the veteran on gas station

[modest bear]

so they're different from "find all pieces of evidence" or "call in every civvie"

[shy tulip]

Yes

Bagging guns are pretty much soft objectives as well

[modest bear]

how long does therapy take an npc out of action for?

[shy tulip]

I think 3 missions or so

You can alternatively replay missions and play to arrest, it is up to you

[jolly verge]

depend on stress officer has

maximum is 3 missions

[median shadow]

on the other hand I can always just leave them at spawn

or give them no armour and pump action shotguns and watch them die

they're pretty close to helpless with zero armor, can't imagine how much worse they'd be with pump shotguns too, although ive done a all-shotgun run befor

maybe ill do a run with them only having bean bag shotguns but with heavy armor lol

[modest bear]

what piece of evidence is put in the evidence locker once you complete 4U?

[acoustic ridge]

just dont give them ammo+no armor
they will die instantly

[sharp geyser]

they still somehow get ammo even if you give none

[formal steeple]

Ghost Recon: Your Dead Teammates Lol sorry

[formal steeple]

this^

[median shadow]

again i don't know if its that big of a deal, give them zero armor coverage and they're helpless as babies

[modest bear]

How do I get an official score without launching in "Safe Mode"?

I don't have any mods installed, but I used to before the update

[stable kernel]

#❓modding-faq-archive for mod uninstallation instructions. Unsubscribing from mods does not actually remove them, which is likely the issue you are having.

[tender heath]

Do we know if the devs plan on updating the game any further?

or are they beginning on a new project?

[sudden marsh]

they are updating the game (hopefully)
just taking so long

[tacit gull]

They released a roadmap with atleast 2 more updates on the horizon

[tender heath]

I think it could be cool if they added... the ability to have AI teammates in MP

[tacit gull]

There's a mod that adds that already

[sudden marsh]

it would be cool, but probably won't happen for a while since the games got bigger issues

[tender heath]

Like maybe if you play a multiplayer game and only have 2 people? you can control an NPC each

[tender heath]

Yea I get that, got any link for the roamap

[tacit gull]

#announcements message

It's very barebones

[tender heath]

I think the idea of DLC is nice but I hope they add more than levels, like I mean more guns that can be used (because currently most of the rifles are just AR-Platform rifle #48 and I know they still all look cool but wouldnt mind a bit more variety)

Though also I get the devs are probably more trying to target the demographic of people who want a realistic police sim instead of people that want to do CQB tactical shooting with the general atmosphere and idea of being a swat officer

[frail quartz]

They're including 2 new weapons with the update too

[tender heath]

WOOHOO

do we know which?

[frail quartz]

Nope

[tender heath]

Is there a way to use the blue training glock in a mission?

[frail quartz]

There's mods that add it, but otherwise it's just a normal glock

[tender heath]

yea i know but i just want it cuz its blue

[humble mauve]

don't forget it is a newsletter week (I think)

[umbral oar]

i thought those training guns aint do damage so i lit up my teammates in the tutorial

[reef horizon]

anyone good in mod? I'm in pain #🔧modding-chat message

[karmic cipher]

Sup bois, anyone can tell me what is the new item "a treat for fans" (yep, I didnt play in a long time)

Or is it just some april fools 😂

[sharp fox]

what

i hate zeppelin

anyway i managed to die by my own c2 when breaching a door

[stable kernel]

If you died on the side that c2 was on, then door was frag grenade trapped.

The c2 alone does no or so little damage on the side it was placed.

[median shadow]

finished no armor run for SWAT... that was brutal lol

[shrewd oriole]

Add balaclava or add paid dlcs, we apparently are getting dlc first

[humble mauve]

said who

[shrewd oriole]

John void

[gleaming fable]

[drifting burrow]

my biggest pet peeve in this game is the rolled sleeves for the black shirt that your officer wears, like i know theres a non-rolled sleeves shirt thats black but you cant select it

the only option is the dark green one

[tacit gull]

There was a mod made for that, it even works with legacy uniform mods

[patent vortex]

guys 2 months without update ... after 350 hours i start to be boring 🙂

[lost inlet]

thats why mods exist

[patent vortex]

yes but i cant immerge myself in the mods and map ,sry but they are shtt maps no really good developpement like the maps of the devs, no really polished maps, no rdm spawn, not really beautifull graphs , no layering of textures, and the working audio (reverb , space modelling) are not here too , i cant
mb for mod i just take the language set lol , french or other , german lol

i just play on two maps and sometimes 2 other, i play the branch of "pedos" (srry i dnt know if i can say) valley of the dolls , the one of multiple floor map and the only with 4 floors, the mindjot data center map , the ai of the gards is crazy , and the spider sometimes , and 23mb, i love test the ai how they react at some situation

i found something weird and glitchy in the map of Voll (valley of dolls), when you pop a cs gas grenade at the 1st window on the left of the entrance door , at the end of the main corridor. the guards of the levels below , come to the main entrance in run style and surrender instantly

[balmy reef]

will running certain cosmetic mods (like https://www.nexusmods.com/readyornot/mods/1550/) prevent me from joining checksum-enabled lobbies?

[tacit gull]

Any modification prevents you from joining lobbies with checksum

[balmy reef]

hhhngghhh.

[tacit gull]

However if you have customisation that's added on top that also wont show on any server that doesn't have the mod

[sharp fox]

i was doing the gas station mission so

[jolly verge]

On what side of the door you was, on c2 one or behind it? Was it in multiplayer or practice/commander?

[sharp fox]

practice, on the c2 side

[jolly verge]

what door exactly you tried to breach?

[strong sonnet]

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[sudden marsh]

Thats the trade off when you buy from
Clueless indie devs

[tender heath]

Are there any firearms that you unlock?

[tender heath]

is that supposed to be an insult?

[urban walrus]

All weapons are unlocked from the start

[tender heath]

sadge

[sudden marsh]

Only 2 void

[tender heath]

bro your a prick, these devs worked hard to make a good game and your just shitting onit

[sudden marsh]

Dont care much, ill gladly take that title.
They should get their priorities in check in this terrible state the game is in

Long time without updates and issues still remain, and it isnt gonna make anyone happy

[tender heath]

what an absolute prick

[sudden marsh]

Just have some understanding of pros and cons, not my fault youre upset about it

Are you even aware of the issues? Or just ignoring them

[tender heath]

I am aware of issues but I dont feel like any of them are so glaring they make the game unplayable to the point they need to be urgently fixed

Like sure they can be a pain but i come across them intermittently

The most intrusive issue ive found is the ragdoll physics when you incapacitate a subject and then restrain them

The only really annoying bug ive noticed (that has happened once is 2 npcs spawning on a box in the 23 Megabytes mission making it so they wouldnt put there hands up so we had to shoot a civ

[tender heath]

I just dont understand why you feel the necessity to be so insufferable about it when these developers are seemingly working hard

[river tide]

ready or not devs made a great game

[tender heath]

Agreed