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[stone bay]

like just a drone to pilot around the map to identify suspects

not that weird CoD/R6 shit

[median shadow]

im ignorant of the lore, does the game take place in the 2020s?

[stone bay]

i heard its like late 2020s

just speculation tho

i mean we have streamers, crypto farms, etc. so it has to be relatively modern

[humble mauve]

I have seen one or two

[median shadow]

in the end its a game and the shotgun characteristics of the 1301 and M4 are backward lol, so must be because game-balance

[humble mauve]

Game is in 24-25ish

[stone bay]

irl?

[humble mauve]

yeah

well

[stone bay]

i had no idea those were real

[humble mauve]

the ones I'm thinking of were a bit more...

explosive.

[stone bay]

OH

[humble mauve]

but it has happened

[stone bay]

well true lol

[prime wing]

https://tenor.com/view/texas-gif-24404828

[stone bay]

not sure if thats necessarily a swat tactic quite yet

[humble mauve]

There were drones at some point but drones just did not really fit many of the maps and the gameplay

according to one of the devs

that was a long time ago I forgot who

[prime wing]

gratr

"drones dont serve a purpose in our current game"

[stone bay]

yeah makes sense, ig the maps are pretty close quarters as is

[prime wing]

along those lines

[stone bay]

but we have the mirrorgun which does a similar objective

[humble mauve]

Outside of about 2-3 maps they would basically provide nothing

Outside of the gas/explosive drone usages there have been a great increase in use of drones in LE/SWAT scenarios in recent times

[stone bay]

yeah a family member of mine is a captain for a drone unit

[median shadow]

Ukraine war has shown police departments how disposable FPV drones can be effectively utilized

cool!

then you'll be the first to know when they do it in mass

right now everybody is still experimenting

[stone bay]

he used to be on a swat team too but got too old for it lol

[stone bay]

im sure the departments with lots of funding could probably utilize something like it

[median shadow]

they probably use most FPV drones for recon like you say, because its not like doors can be opened by drones lol

[stone bay]

no need to when most are equipped with infrared

[median shadow]

its a developing area, im sure most departments though would rather pay for a disposable drone that might get damaged over an officer's hopstial bills

[stone bay]

its not even developing, LAPD has like 12 drones

like i said even my county with a swat team of 12 has a ~10,000$ drone

[median shadow]

it would be cool to live in a future where active shooters have drones that fly in and stop it almost as soon as it happens

[shy tulip]

The active shooter has a drone that flies in?

[median shadow]

don't give anybody ideas like that lol

[prime wing]

whats the movie about huh

predicting crime

Tom cruise flick

[stone bay]

Minority Report

[median shadow]

i wish score had an influence on my team's mental stability

rather than just kills versus arrests

[wooden arrow]

Well arresting affects ur score too by a lot

[median shadow]

yeah, but there is like zero motivation to actually do clean up or even real concern about injuring civilians as long as they don't die

[wooden arrow]

You can just ask your squad to search and secure when you take care of all of the suspects and they’ll clean up all the evidence and do arrests

[median shadow]

yeah, but on the other hand I can just press Y to end the game since i've completed the mission

also arrests by search and secure happens very rarely

[wooden arrow]

They only arrest the civilians that put their hands in the air

[median shadow]

meh, ideally id like it that when all that bad guys are dead i can command search and secure and wait for the game to end

[median shadow]

actually what would be really cool for both SP and COOP would be if a team of bots would come in after and do all that

sort of like how the SWAT 3 AI could actually do the whole mission by themselves if the player died

[open harness]

Why do sometimes the evidences are automatically packed up, and most of the time we have to do it manually

[sharp fox]

cause funny RoN

[viral tiger]

Wasn't it a feature that was supposed to do that=

[median shadow]

don't know, you would think they'd like to keep people from getting bored from playing 52-card-pick-up with the hostages

[thorn summit]

what guns the best if i want to use the 4x or 12x for those times when there's an enemy firing shots from across the map, but i also want it to handle decently when canted for regular use

[stable lagoon]

In my experience I believe it is when evidence falls into a spot you can't get to it'll pack itself up. That being said, the detection for lost evidence is... not perfect.

[tacit gull]

None, the scopes are borderline unusable since they don't shoot on target, they make the game run worse and overall look awful

[sudden marsh]

this game just keeps getting fuckin better

[thorn summit]

but the roleplay

[tacit gull]

Get a mod with a g33 magnifier for the holo or something

Or a mod for the scopes, i think there are some that fix them

[fierce rain]

my aí squad is acting so weird i cant even do proper clearing cause they refuse to go upstairs

[median shadow]

yeah, AI in this game is awful when it's not amazing

sometimes its just captivating watching them clear rooms ... other times i watch as they get shot with no reaction or sometimes just get stuck

[sudden marsh]

the AI is just trash, better off getting an AI Mod
VOID claimed they tested the swat AI but they lied to our faces.

[median shadow]

it's a habit for me to always ask them to follow me before I give them any other command because otherwise they'll just ignore it

i don't understand how the command system responsiveness is so bad

[median shadow]

the AI is amazing when it isn't awful --- i think the AI is very dependent on being implimented in the MAP correctly, which means its either great or awful, depending on the map

[sudden marsh]

if the AI can't adapt and perform consistently across different base game maps, then it's just plain bad design.
theres no reason to sugar coat the devs mistakes

[normal light]

i understand i am asking a biased group, but im looking for input. i tried this game through a friend and really enjoyed the first two missions solo. there were some mods for ai adjustments and the game managed to feel tense but kind of easy. i thought it was a great experience anyway. can anyone tell me how much different the experience is vanilla and multiplayer? i checked and saw the daily users was kind of low so im looking for help on my decision to purchase

[sudden marsh]

the game has a nice foundation, but its a huge diamond in the rough.
the performance and optimization are subpar, content updates are slow,
the AI is terrible unless you go out of your way to mod them

and not to mention VOID is terrible at communication

multiplayer with your friend is fun i can admit, though the vanilla solo swat AI is a 50/50 on the shit scale.

some of the people here are biased, so your observation isn't too far off.

[silk junco]

real

[normal light]

biased only in the fact that this group of people likely are here because they enjoy the game. i do not have gamer friends. i am getting old lol. is there good replayability here online or does it tread closely to being a one and done experience

[sudden marsh]

for replayability its a middle ground
80% of the replayability is through installing modded maps or mods once you are done with the entire campaign.

sure you can replay the campaign maps, but i don't think it would be enjoyable replaying the same maps
50 times over without any mods

[median shadow]

its replayable as hell imo

[tacit gull]

I disagree, as by default most encounters play the same and suspect spawns are very predictable once you have enough time in the game

[median shadow]

i find myself trying the same route, but it usually doens't play out the same way

[hollow sparrow]

Hello, I have a question, is launching the game in safe mode basically the same as the other launch options but just disables mods?

[median shadow]

yes

[hollow sparrow]

so if I launch it in safe mode and get a better record on a mission it saves?

[tacit gull]

Mission records save even with mods, it just doesn't display the red message when you finish a mission

[hollow sparrow]

with mods it shows me the record and says in red "Mod detected unofficial score"

[tacit gull]

It still counts

[hollow sparrow]

Alright thanks

[tacit gull]

Unless it explicitly states "Score Not Saved" (maybe in a further update) the score will save and you can get achievements with it

[earnest phoenix]

in what situations does it say score not saved

[tacit gull]

It doesn't anymore, it used to in an old version

[unreal trail]

i love the glock 19 ngl

i can chose to let the suspect live

or turn off the body cam

[slow mesa]

hello everyone did anyone have a working solution to fps drop and stutter on this game like i got an rtx 3060 and R5 5600X and my game is barely playable

[hollow sparrow]

lower graphics and try to launch the game in DX12

[slow mesa]

if you want i can record my game for better understand what im talking about ?

i did that already

its on dx12 by default on steam property option and im running on medium setting to test

[hollow sparrow]

sometimes the game lags when u first run a map. try to speed through the map and then play it

[muted star]

Heard that pasting something like this into your engine.ini helps
[SystemSettings]
r.Streaming.PoolSize=1500
r.Streaming.LimitPoolSizeToVRAM=1
r.Streaming.DefragDynamicBounds=1

[slow mesa]

ill give it a try but its not the first time i try the game and i play on 1080P setting

[slow mesa]

i try that now

[hollow sparrow]

interesting

[slow mesa]

where is the engine.ini is on the game file right?

[muted star]

\AppData\Local\ReadyOrNot\Saved\Config\WindowsNoEditor

[slow mesa]

thx i go eat and will try after

[sudden marsh]

bruh he is on a Ryzen 5, 3060 he doesnt need to lower his graphics, its the games fault and thats a dumb tip.
thats like suggesting a sports car owner remove the racing tires and swap them for bicycle wheels to improve acceleration.
It's counterintuitive and completely misses the point of having high-performance hardware in the first place.

[sudden marsh]

it doesn't, its placebo.

[hollow sparrow]

ik I just dont find another way, I have a similar GPU and my game runs fine, only sometimes it has lag spikes that last for like 5 seconds

[pearl shuttle]

What SWAT AI mods are even available lmao

[stone bay]

I know of at least four

[sudden marsh]

SWAT and Suspects AI Overhaul is my favorite at the moment

[pearl shuttle]

Do any of them fix the issues with the SWAT AI's pathfinding

All I see is buffs to their hearing and vision

[sudden marsh]

i doubt it, probably just some tweaks here and there

[pearl shuttle]

Zero Hour has better teammate AI

We need to review bomb this game

[slow mesa]

so i read ur message ithink i shouldnt do that?

and my game was running perfectly fine until the 1.0

[sudden marsh]

yeah, im on a higher spec PC than yours, and only running dx12 worked fine for me

no engine ini tweaks either, its all placebo

[slow mesa]

so its just the game is optimised like shit and i can't do anything?

[sudden marsh]

pretty much, the games notorious for having optimization/stutter issues

[slow mesa]

bruh

[sudden marsh]

if it helps, cap your fps to like your monitors refresh rate, and use amd anti lag or nvidia low latency

those helped alot

[slow mesa]

nvidia reflex?

[sudden marsh]

no its called low latency mode in the control panel

but i think reflex is the same thing if i recall

[slow mesa]

oh yeah i set it to ultra

[sudden marsh]

dont put it on ultra, just keep it on normal

ultra was causing me some fps issues

[slow mesa]

okay thx u

[shadow heath]

Need to arrest some suspects, which non lethal gun would you say is the best?

[stone bay]

Full auto TAC700

[shadow heath]

I’ll give it a try

[tacit gull]

The taser and beanbag guarantee surrenders on hits, however they might miss for no reason

[shadow heath]

Beanbag sounds challenging but fun

[pearl shuttle]

Don't aim for the head

[vocal night]

beanbag also lets you bring more equipment with you compared to vks

[pearl shuttle]

Blunt force trauma can still kill

[shadow heath]

Thanks for the tips

[umbral oar]

taser and beanbag is pretty consistent but taser just doesn’t work in multiplayer

and if you miss itll suck for you

[shadow heath]

Gotcha, I’m running with ai team. Speaking of which, are there any ways to help mitigate how much stress they get from a mission? Seems like they’re getting anxious after 1-2 missions without them getting shot as I’m taking point on every breach.

[eternal bridge]

I've seen mil-sim groups have their own type of uniforms/decals. How is that possible?

How can I create my own?

[sudden marsh]

the same way people make vest/skin mods for this game, its not a unspoken tip either.
i can't help with modding tho

#🔧modding-chat might help tho

[astral warren]

Headshotting people with the beanbag gun is the reason I use it.

[opaque birch]

Dat defeats the purpose of the beanbag doe Wdf!

[astral warren]

The beanbag is better at killing with headshots than any other gun in the game, it doesn't just have a 3x damage multiplier (or 2x in the case of the AP 7.62x51 round... for... some reason?), it actually sets their health straight to 0 when you hit them in the head.

[stone bay]

It’s damage is like 10,0740

[astral warren]

That is a way of setting a suspect or civilian's health to 0 for sure, lol.

Seems excessive considering suspects don't even have 1,000hp.

[stone bay]

Yeah it’s setup so it has a very small pen value and won’t enter the body…. Unless it’s a headshot

[astral warren]

Idk why this game bothered having such a complex penetration system when they don't even have velocity implemented.

[stone bay]

They do it’s just pretty lackluster rn

[astral warren]

Velocity is not in the game.

[stone bay]

Check out the weapon blueprints

They have “time to target hit”

[astral warren]

But everything except the beanbag shotgun and the pepperballs are hitscan.

so velocity is not in the game

Also SR-15 does the same damage as the G36, despite one having a MUCH longer barrel.

[stone bay]

I’ll have to look when I’m home

[astral warren]

They have everything in the game ready to go, it just isn't turned on.

[stone bay]

Yeah shitty thing is damage is configured from the caliber value not the firearm

[astral warren]

It seems the theme of this game is [ ] READY [X] NOT READY

[stone bay]

So 5.56 out of a SBR does as much as a 20in barrel

[astral warren]

All of the weapons feel exactly the same.

[stone bay]

Yeah a lot of them do

[astral warren]

5.56x45 feels like you're an idiot for not using 300blk, 7.62x39 is LITERALLY 300blk with more recoil and less attachment options, and the SA-58 is pointless because the 1 hit incap potential is offset by the stubby magazine, horrendous recoil, and the fact that many maps have slightly higher suspect health pools which prevent it from 1 hit incaping at all, effectively downgrading it into an even worse version of the SL-47

[stone bay]

You know what’s hilarious is .300 blackout has more penetration than 5.56

People use .300blacjout for home defense specifically for the reason it has less over penetration concerns

[astral warren]

300blk jhp needs a pen nerf for sure. 7.62x39 definitely needs to retain the current pen value to make it worth choosing over 300blk, and maybe calm the fuck down with the recoil a little? I'm a small person, and I've fired a WASR-10, and it was very controllable, even with repeat, follow up rounds, I'm sure a 6'2" 280lbs SWAT officer shouldn't have any problem handling an intermediate cartridge like that.

I more just want velocity to be enabled or finished being implemented so that there's a reason you might not want to try and take shots at a suspect holding a hostage at 25 meters with a MP9. I would also appreciate if there was an element of sight radius playing into weapon accuracy, as pistols have comparable first shot accuracy to rifles, which seems very silly to me. Naturally, most engagements happen at close range, but the trade off for choosing more compact weapons that can be maneuvered in confined spaces more easily should be that if you ARE to encounter a situation outside of about 15 meters or so, you're in a bad position. It would encourage more deliberate loadout choices, and maybe even increase the usage of sidearms, as people rarely use their secondary. For instance, if you were playing on a more open map, such as port, you may opt for a long barreled rifle, like the SR-16, and bring a Five-seveN as a sidearm to deal with the more tight areas of the map without sacrificing your ability to deal with armoured opponents.

[stone bay]

Summed it up pretty well ya

also make smgs valuable instead of objectively worse than all rifles

[astral warren]

Like the only gun you should use atm are 300blk rifles. 5.56 recoil w/7.62x39 damage + the ARN-18 is one of the shortest rifles in the entire game, and the LVAR is the shortest suppressed rifle in the game.

[stone bay]

It’s pretty ridiculous how accurately inaccurate some of the stuff is

all weapons are very accurate

you can shoot a head at 25 meters with any weapon in this game

[astral warren]

SMGs are bad atm because their attachments reduce recoil less than rifles, and the arm damage injury penalty inaccuracy is a flat value, so they have great recoil until you get shot in the arm, which happens often, and then they become worse than rifles while also being weaker.

[stone bay]

they have too much recoil even with working hands

[astral warren]

Agree.

Also 10mm is way too weak with way too much recoil.

[stone bay]

they fire 9mm there is zero reason for them to come close to rifles

yeah they are lighter weight but come on

[astral warren]

It's literally just shitty .45ACP

[stone bay]

I think some of them don’t have enough recoil

[astral warren]

???

MPX lol

That thing feels like CS M249 but it shoots 9mm.

[stone bay]

It’s a ~4 inch barrel

and?

Wdym and

it's a 9mm

the weapon is shouldered

[astral warren]

It's a pistol cartridge, for balance purposes, if it's going to do less damage, it needs to have considerably less recoil than rifles to compensate for the more shots required to incapacitate.

[stone bay]

For balance purposes true

[stone bay]

Shorter barrel still makes it much snappier

no it doesnt

100% it does

do smaller barrerls have more recoil than longer barrels ?

Yes

[astral warren]

A shorter barrel can have more felt recoil, yeah.

[stone bay]

(not including weight as a reason)

why does that happen

I go to the shooting range 3 times a week for the past 2.5 years

Because there’s less time for the bullet to travel

[astral warren]

The gasses have less time to expand in the shorter barrel.

[stone bay]

why does that make the weapon kick harder

[astral warren]

The gasses are hotter and have more expanding to do when they leave the end of it, at which point they expand very rapidly.

[stone bay]

beat me to it

[astral warren]

It's why muzzle brakes work.

[stone bay]

while its not as noticable in rifles its a very big thing in handguns

shoot a glock 43 and then shoot a glock 17L and youll see the difference

like between a 14in barrel and a 16in barrel at least me personally i can barely tell

[astral warren]

Even still, being able to shoulder it makes the felt recoil far easier to deal with compared to a handgun.

[stone bay]

100%

[astral warren]

The SMGs really need a recoil reduction, and the 10mm needs to be given a separate damage curve from .45ACP, that is either MUCH better, or a little bit better, and the recoil can be reduced so it isn't the least controllable gun in the game.

[stone bay]

im trying to figure out how to add in damage curves

[astral warren]

I think the bigger problem is that you want to incap and not kill in this game, and having to make more shots means you might click one too many times more easily, given there are more opportunities to click, perhaps too much. This makes rifles the more attractive choice, as you have less opportunities to click too many times, since you need to click fewer overall.

[stone bay]

also you were right apparently velocity is not implemented even though the text is there to show otherwise

[gleaming fable]

i forgot, do the body armor worn by enemies work or they just props?

[stone bay]

they do work

[astral warren]

Yeah, this game is full of shit, literally and figuratively. It both lies to you about mechanics that aren't in the game, but then contains 95% of the shit to make it work, just without it being hooked up to anything.

[gleaming fable]

cool, thanks

[astral warren]

The model doesn't matter. They can be wearing armour and not have it, or not be wearing it and have armour.

[opaque birch]

Dawg who at void decided that was how it was gonna be bro 😭 Why

[astral warren]

The damage multiplier for headshots being different for the LARGEST ARMOUR PIERCING ROUND AVAILABLE IN THE GAME compared to even 5.7mm, or the beanbag rounds being the most lethal projectile in the game?

[opaque birch]

Beanbags bro

Who tf did that
Fire them

[stone bay]

i wonder what changing bHitScan to false would do 🤔

[shy tulip]

Beanbag headshots are supposed to represent an ROE violation. In real life they're known to cause brain damage if you shoot someone in the head with it, they can kill, they just can't really simulate that in RoN.

[shy tulip]

You unlock RoN 2

[stone bay]

velocity is there for other weapons i dont see why i shouldnt be able to add it into others

[opaque birch]

DLC content

[astral warren]

I think it's not just fleshed out fully, so they haven't implemented it yet, but nothing else is fleshed out fully, either, so idk why they'd omit this feature of all things.

Maybe it broke the damage values with the pen system or something? I feel like they hyperfixated on the pen system, only to recently make flesh the 3rd hardest material in the game, 2nd only to concrete and steel, effectively making all of that work useless, and forgot to keep the velocity system playing nice with it along the way, so they just kind of ditched it since it was too out of date and caused too much convolution in trying to create deliberate damage values.

[stone bay]

no idea. they have penetration distance which is pretty much velocity with hitscan

[astral warren]

If that's the way they want to do it then give shorter barrels inferior pen distance to longer barrels, but then the problem is it's tied to the cartridge, isn't it?

[stone bay]

yeah

[astral warren]

then just use the velocity system you spent all of this time making instead of letting it sit and collect dust

[stone bay]

i mean the values for penetration distance are there in the weapon blueprint, but i think its overwritten by the caliber value? not sure

[astral warren]

Quite frustrating and confusingly, ricochets ARE NOT hitscan.

[stone bay]

they even have spalling in game but not velocity lol

[astral warren]

So they literally HAVE projectile based rounds in the game, they just don't let you use them without doing some cyberpunk bullshit and bouncing it off 3 metal panels.

[stone bay]

yeah beanbag has a projectile speed but so far thats the only one i could find

i want to share something i think of constantly

so imagine you are outside a room that you need to clear and you do not know what is inside

why is it a bad idea to take your phone out, turn on the camera, and slightly stick it out from the doorway (1-2cm) so you can clearly see what is inside without exposing any part of you

hopefully the bad guys dont look at the doorway idk

what if they do

"hey whos there"

worst case your phonee gets destroyed

worst case they empty a mag into the wall and you are now swiss cheese

what are they using 50bmg?

if its drywall or wood anything will go through it

even a .22

you americans with your silly houses

lol true

but lets assume that the cover is bad in the first place right

if they notice a phone, they would have also noticed your head or body rounding the corner

so at that point you're either gonna get shot when you enter or when youre behind the wall

that's just an unwinnable situation

[barren moss]

Old lobby room in my heart forvever.

[stone bay]

i wish i had an airsoft gun i could dryfire with

[opaque birch]

Js get a real gun

[stone bay]

@astral warren lol im adding this into arsenal overhaul. turns out all you have to do to enable the velocity system is set bHitScan to false. the values are like 96,000 by default, it should be the MuzzleVelocityText * 30 = ProjcetileMovementSpeed (velocity)

need to fiddle around with it a bit more but seems pretty simple

[stone bay]

i am not mentally stable

ammo is expensive

i need to go to a range to shoot a real gun

[opaque birch]

Js dont get ammo

[stone bay]

why would i not get an airsoft pistol they are sick

[silk junco]

stinky

[humble mauve]

you can dryfire with real guns

[stone bay]

real guns are very difficult to own

MURICA 🇺🇸 🦅

i had a real gun and i ended up selling it

because the experience of having a gun was horrible

how so

guns are for sport here

so you need to go to the range and pay an admission fee a certain times per year

and inspections every so often

otherwise it gets taken away

and its just a pain

oh interesting

i mean we pay for the ranges here too

but no inpsections or anything like that

you americans are so lucky with your guns

i mean i dont want to get political but just being able to go get a gun is sweet

[opaque birch]

Brazillian gun laws are kinda stupid

We can only have .380 auto or .38 special

No 556 no 9mm no nothin

[stone bay]

huh??

.38 special is more lethal than 9mm lol

[opaque birch]

Our president banned 9x19 this year

[stone bay]

thats weird

[opaque birch]

You can still own it but if you run out you can get fucked

[stone bay]

okay i have been radicalized

died at valley of the dots on iron by some guy hitting a burst of 7 bullets directly inside my head

i am going to violate every ROE imaginable

WHAT

I just got one tapped at full health on the first mission? what the hell is this game?

i was wearing a the ballistic mask

[stone stump]

you can't get one tapped in the game as long as you have a helmet

[opaque birch]

How do you even equip the helmet like i thought i had that shit on by default

[stone stump]

it is, but you can take it off

[stone bay]

suspects are kinda hilariously accurate

like

i didnt know crackheads had 10 years of military training

okay, there's a suspect in the first mission with a 50 round mag or something and he sees me

[stone stump]

they aren't anymore

[stone bay]

he starts shooting, i get prone, he strafes to the left and keeps shooting through the brick wall im hiding behind

and continues successfully hitting me

[stone stump]

but inhuman reaction times and crazy firerate does its job smh

[stone bay]

i feel like a riot shield is a non negotiable requirement

[stone stump]

i would say skill is a requirement

[stone bay]

the enemy has wallhacks and aimbot

[tender frost]

can someone help me real quick

[stone bay]

also why does everyone have brainrot, everything is a skill issue all the time

[stone stump]

are you seriously surprised suspect can deduce you're taking cover behind a wall?

[stone bay]

i am seriously surprised they can land shots on a target they cannot see while strafing and shooting a weapon in full auto

[storm rain]

what armor plates do you wear?

[stone bay]

full steel for obvious reasons

[storm rain]

oh alr

[stone bay]

if only i could armor my limbs

[storm rain]

steel still damages you alot but doesnt break so your steel plates probably killed you

[stone bay]

i would gladly walk around with 2 equipment slots

[sharp fox]

just get the mod fr

[stone bay]

yeah yeah

[storm rain]

i cant be bothered trying to work out nexus mods lmao

[stone bay]

no matter what equipment i take or what i do the user is always at fault

[stone stump]

not that hard if you have a lot of bullets and an automatic weapon

[sharp fox]

understandable

[opaque birch]

How tf can you not figure that out 😹

[storm rain]

i mean like i want a whole new side to RoN where you do traffic stops, responding to calls, etc.

[opaque birch]

That should be a separate game

Nothing to do with ron lol

[storm rain]

yeah i guess

plus it would make the devs alot of money and bring alot more attention to the game

[wispy mural]

Patrolling or Not

[opaque birch]

P90 -> Full auto -> W + Mouse1

literally works every time

[stone bay]

dying tutorial

[opaque birch]

Did you forget the part where you hold mouse 1

[storm rain]

make sure you wear ballistic mask if you always get 1 tapped

[stone bay]

i never use anything other than max protection equipment

[storm rain]

oof

[stone bay]

unless the mission demands night vision

[opaque birch]

Hey man maybe if their bullets go through the wall then so can yours so like turn your gun to silly mode and hold mouse1 on that wall

[stone stump]

i love when game about SWAT (that has barely anything to do with swat as is) adds traffic stops and typical police work

[stone bay]

yeah i do that but they know where i am, and i, the human, do not know their location, because i am a human and not a bot

[storm rain]

yeah but im not sure about the dlc now haha, a whole new game would make sense i guess

[stone stump]

no mission does, actually

[opaque birch]

Hey man you can move your mouse around as well. Hope that helps 🙏

[stone stump]

no, it won't

[opaque birch]

ngl it STILL wont make sense as a new game

[storm rain]

how so?

[opaque birch]

void can NOT afford to work on 2 games at once 😹

Ngl and considering ron it would become boring after you do all the different stuff you have to do once

Moral of the story is ummm go play la noire

[storm rain]

im not sure its just that i want a game that is about doing regular police work and such and is realistic at the same time

[stone stump]

they can't handle one game

[stone stump]

you won't find that in ron

[opaque birch]

That would get boring and would not sell well

Like if you want realistic police work it would be shooting black people followed by getting a cat off a tree

[storm rain]

i knew what i was expecting to get and i love the game just that i wanted to look for something similar aswell

[opaque birch]

And also GMOD Rps

[storm rain]

i guess so lmao

[opaque birch]

Have you thought about GMOD Rps

And fiveM as well

[storm rain]

fivem and gmod rps suck ngl

[opaque birch]

Like idk i think its just like real police work they just let anyone in 😭

[stone stump]

don't you ever mention fivem

[storm rain]

and theres little to no tutorials and + i cant set it up

[opaque birch]

I like playing on FiveM

[storm rain]

i dont wanna end up on some dudes fiveM trolling rp on tiktok so im good

[opaque birch]

Jk my computer cant run it..................................................................................................................................................................................................................

[stone stump]

good

[opaque birch]

Ay man if you cant beat em join em

[stone stump]

"if you can't be good be bad" ahh advice

[storm rain]

also btw idk why but one time i was playing RoN and i wanted to play it again and when i logged in all of my mission progress was wiped

i was only about 3/4 of the way done so i had to restart

[stone stump]

the why is obvious, no one tested the game before full release

[opaque birch]

Bro that is precisely what i am saying

[storm rain]

why did they remove steam workshop too?

[stone stump]

they didn't

it never was a thing

[storm rain]

i swear they did have it during alpha or something

[stone stump]

no

[opaque birch]

No thewy di tnot BRO

[storm rain]

damn

i wish they did since theres barely any mods ingame now\

[opaque birch]

This is the issues you face by refusing to learn how to use nexus

Hold on bro im making a google doc for you goofies 😭

[stone stump]

pressing that slow download button and waiting 10 business days for it to finish

[storm rain]

i set up nexus mods on fallout 4 and i loved the mods just that setting it up took hours

[stone stump]

99% of RoN mods are drag and drop to Paks folder

and that's IT

[opaque birch]

yeah

[storm rain]

so its actually easy now?

[stone stump]

it was since the start

[storm rain]

damn

im gonna try and set up a few mods later then

can i still keep my ingame mods though?

[stone stump]

you shouldn't use the ingame modio at all

[storm rain]

the only good one i have is the one that unlocks all ingame outfits without doing tasks

[stone stump]

better to download these mods manually from mod.io website if they aren't available on nexus

[stone stump]

[stone bay]

100%. I wasn’t willing to risk either my officers sanity or my own for a watch.

[storm rain]

ikr lmao

[shy tulip]

As long as you aren't downloading conflicting mods, you'll be fine.

[storm rain]

alr then thank you

[opaque birch]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/13qlloioNjwC0nHoJAH8WCMyd9g6pyE-gvoEEkzXbRRw/edit?usp=sharing hey bros i finished it

[umbral oar]

Not public

[opaque birch]

check now

[umbral oar]

thanks peter

[opaque birch]

No problem bro

no way i just said mk18 mod 0 and not mod 1 😭 the gun nerds will kill me for this!

[storm rain]

ty peter 🥺

[stone stump]

wdym installing mods that do the same thing doesn't magically fix their conflicts?

[shy tulip]

Zombie mod x realism overhaul

[mellow elbow]

whats up with this gamer

[shy tulip]

Perfect combo

[stone stump]

5 ai overhauls

[mellow elbow]

is this a good game?

[stone stump]

no

[opaque birch]

no dont buy it

[mellow elbow]

ok

[opaque birch]

where do you live

[mellow elbow]

why do you ask

[umbral oar]

this game murdered my family

[opaque birch]

Country not address

[storm rain]

wtf, someone made a mod on RoN that makes your game crash on purpose

[opaque birch]

i just gotta know how much the price is in your region

[mellow elbow]

israel

[opaque birch]

how much does the game cost for you

cuz its worth like 20-30 dollars

so if its that in shekel then its worth it to buy

[storm rain]

damn that much

[mellow elbow]

20-30$ is between 80-120 israeli shekel

nice that you heard about the shekel

[stone stump]

the game is $50 fyi

[storm rain]

i gotta pay $73 for original price

[mellow elbow]

is it on steam or epic games?

[opaque birch]

steam

[storm rain]

its on sale rn

[opaque birch]

that too

[mellow elbow]

till when?

[storm rain]

until around april 22

[mellow elbow]

oh cool

[storm rain]

its part of the steam fps fest sale

and i think its 33% off right now

[proven blade]

can you guys ban watchmenwakeuponyt

[opaque birch]

Yall are more annoying than the guy 🤦‍♂️

Bro the devs cant do anything to him lmao

[stone stump]

why would they ban a legitimate player enjoying the game

no one forces you to play with them

[proven blade]

yeah really enjoying the game

[opaque birch]

Bro i will pray for you bro

[stone stump]

they're doing this for months, so it sure feels like they enjoy it

[opaque birch]

God loves you bro ill pray for you my vro God loves you He is good He is love

[proven blade]

i dont think hes even real

like he just has hours long of videos and just afks

[opaque birch]

Thats fine bro. God still loves you

[stone stump]

what videos

[proven blade]

like he records him saying that stuff

afks in ron, and puts his phone to the mic

[stone stump]

that's the most ignorant way to describe virtual mic i ever heard

[umbral oar]

video? you mean audio???? AHAHAHAHAHAA

[high seal]

Why do I get penalized in Elephant for suspects killing civilians? I went twice with a friend with non lethals and before we could even enter the place they killed 2 civilians making it impossible to get the S rank

Got A+ twice

[shy tulip]

You aren't, you won't get -negative score for killing civilians. You simply won't get the same score as someone who does save everyone else.

Semantics I know, but it is possible, and you have a lot of time right now compared to in the past to stop all shooters.

[high seal]

I don't mean negative score I mean it doesn't give me the score for a S rank when I and my friend didn't kill anyone and we literally went in like call of duty modern warfare III players and both times the AI killed 2 civs

[tough wasp]

if a civ dies then youre not getting the points for saving a civ. its contingent on no deaths and max score

not just no killing from you individually

[vernal bane]

You don't get the same amount of points if you restrain an incapped/death civilian than an alive one

[soft narwhal]

To get S rank, you need to capture the suspects and all evidence and ensure all civvies are alive.

So you need to go full non lethal.

[silk junco]

hi krato

[vernal bane]

You won't get a deduction like unauthorized like -50 but it's an "invisible" deduction on the max points you can get to achieve the score

[high seal]

I did that it's just that the suspects killed 2 civilians before I could stop them or even get in the place

[vernal bane]

Just gotta be faster

[molten wren]

why does the voice lines for the left behind in ides of march feel a little flat compared to the other missions

[high seal]

Bro I had light armor with cermic plates and I moved non stop and they still killed them

They killed the 2 civs 10 seconds after the mission started

[vernal bane]

Just reroll for more lenient AI

[high seal]

That's really lame

[shy tulip]

You leave them alone

I love their voicelines

[shy tulip]

That isn't possible unless you got close to the AI and didn't realize it. They do have some rules about when they can start blasting

[high seal]

That's what happened, we got him and we get all the suspects within a minute and then there's 2 dead civilians far away from where the suspects were

Me and my friend did not let them escape once we saw them so it's not possible they were agro

[vernal bane]

Assume that when you hear a gunshot when you load into the map, that they are either shooting you from door or they shot a civy

Then just fast reset

Out of all the times I ran S on College, if I heard a gunshot in the very beginning I just reset

[stone bay]

for some reason the suspects will not shoot civvies on college for me

[vernal bane]

I wish there was a pattern to it

[high seal]

Same when I played solo but now when I played with a friend there were always 2 dead civilians

[stone bay]

although i was doing it on practice mode

[vernal bane]

I've done it True Solo, Duo, and Full Team and out of all those attempts, the chances of an incapped civy for S% was low

[wispy mural]

I think there's a human trafficking ring in my city, is this a Ready or Not reference?

[frail quartz]

I've honestly gotta agree that the VA quality is a bit questionable. They sound more mildly annoyed than angry when they're shouting

[humble mauve]

the newer VAs are much much better

especially swat

[umbral oar]

liiiiight em up

[frail quartz]

Yeah, I just kind of feel like the left behind could have a lot more emotion in their lines.

Both when they're screaming in rage and sorrowfully being arrested

[shy tulip]

Brisa Cove specifically have some cool interaction lines

[proven blade]

Idk something something fighting in the army

[shy tulip]

I swear I've heard civilians cry out for help just for them to go "Sit tight, this will be over soon"

Something like that

[frail quartz]

They'll also say something along the lines of "Shut up, we're not here for you!"

[humble mauve]

those are on basically every map

if you go sneaky like (especially when using mirror guns) they talk a lot

[shy tulip]

Sneaky? In RoN? You mean I shouldn't C2 the main door?

[humble mauve]

well you don't really need to like stealth around

but if you are just patient and take rooms slowly you can hear them yapping a good amount

[umbral oar]

the lines like “put pressure on it” are so cooo

[sharp fox]

im pretty sure one of the shooters in elephant just pretended to be a student crying out for help

[proven blade]

I just shot everyone who wasn’t surrendering

You can’t trust anyone

[stone bay]

This is the only correct strat

[frail quartz]

"Uhhh, D platoon? The shooters only used assault & battle rifles, can you explain why some of the students' bodies had 5.7 and 12 gauge bullet wounds?..."
"Damn, these weapon modifications criminals use nowadays are crazy, they can just caliber-convert anything."

[thorn summit]

is there a way to know what maps ive s ranked and ones i havnt?

[sudden marsh]

check if you have a tattoo, S Ranked maps give you tattoos

[thorn summit]

aight thanks

also for the 99 swat gear, i swear ive completed every main level?

[stark breach]

just found the missing container on port hogan... im flashbanged now lol

[amber dock]

thank you

[shadow heath]

How many beanbags would you say are usually needed?

[silk junco]

depends how many friends you have over for the minecraft gaming session

id usually recommend 3

[median shadow]

how come sometimes SWAT uses full auto and some times they use single shot, even with the same weapon, is it based off of range?

[lost inlet]

they use full auto cause the gun they using can go full auto while they go semi cause the guns they using can only go semi?

[humble mauve]

They automatically can switch

I know conserving ammo when running low is one thing that can cause it

Don’t know if there are others

[median shadow]

interesting!

[humble mauve]

I hate that it took me 3 hours to get this

[median shadow]

giving bots more ammo didn't seem to change thier fire rate, oh well

[thorn summit]

for the way out west achievment, can i do it multiplayer? and can i use grenades?

[median shadow]

this could just be me, but it doesn't feel like SWAT officers appreciate arresting SOME subjects enough to bother with it

[stark horizon]

when will we get an update fixing bots tracking perfectly through walls

I get being aimbotted when they have eye contact with me but through the wall is a little too much

[thorn summit]

when modding the game, it says your score is 'unofficial' does that actaully affect anything?

[median shadow]

i think it just means you're not actually getting a score that is what it should be

you still get steam acheivements so and cosmetic unlocks so it means nothing really

[stone stump]

it means that your score is unofficial. it's for comparisons only basically

not that you couldn't use a trainer on an unmodded game and get official score anyways...

[median shadow]

it's meaningless

if it effected my AI's happiness rating then I'd care but it means nothing

[silk junco]

this should not be as funny as it is

[sharp fox]

is it normal for my ai to kill both the civilian and suspect when a suspect takes someone hostage

[tacit gull]

I wouldn't say normal, but yes that is what they do

[shy tulip]

Normal by RoN MP lobby standards I'd assume

[proven blade]

Hey sinner,

can I ask why my image perms were taken away?

[shy tulip]

I'm trying to think of a way to make stinker rhyme in the Grinch's song

Yeah can't think of a way, too tired

[severe shell]

yo is there a way to report team killers?

[stone bay]

Is this game could played cross server?

I think Im the only Asian here

[severe shell]

maybe try to find some other asians to play with in #🔎looking-for-players

[stone bay]

Oh right, thanks!

[severe shell]

no problem have fun!

[torpid wasp]

The home invasion dlc is supposed to release in the spring right? Shouldn’t we hear about it soon or is it delayed

[tacit gull]

No delay so far, it should still be coming

[stone stump]

there's no date so there's nothing to delay, yet

[lost inlet]

real

[soft narwhal]

They gave a time window. Spring 2024.

You're telling me that can't be delayed ?

[stone stump]

they haven't said in what hemisphere :P

[soft narwhal]

So semantics then, when all their previous release times have been with what most common Americans follow

They would all of a sudden change it up to follow some other part of the world's seasons

[stone stump]

correct, you can easily deduce from the newsletter they mean the northern hemisphere seasons

[soft narwhal]

You can also deduce this by their previous release times of updates and statements. They've all followed this.

[stone stump]

but they haven't stated that explicitly, so technically, if they release at the end of the year, it will be spring in some places

including those that speak english

[soft narwhal]

So again, you want to argue semantics that goes against what VOID has done in all of their update releases and newsletters.

[stone stump]

no, im just making a "technically..." joke

and void has been historically associated with southern hemisphere, so...

[soft narwhal]

Yes because they'd all of a sudden change their release times just this one time all of a sudden compared to everything else they've done

[stone stump]

they never used seasons to describe release times before tbf

[soft narwhal]

They gave deadlines up until 2022 where they stopped sometime in 2022.

This started again recently in 2023 where one of the owners of VOID said in an interview that 1.0 would release by the end of the year giving themselves a deadline.

It's clear something has shifted where they're going back to announcing and giving some type of deadline

[stone stump]

either way it's a big oversight on their part, by not making this part clear enough (that they meant northern hemisphere seasons)

[soft narwhal]

But of course to you, by the end of year couldve technically been 2040 cause they didn't say what year

[stone stump]

nuh uh

it's pretty clear that by the end of the year in that context they meant 2023

[soft narwhal]

They didn't say what year though

Nowhere in that interview did they specify

[stone stump]

didn't say they did

[soft narwhal]

Now if you're telling me you wanna take context clues and apply them, then yes you are correct.

But somehow context clues doesn't apply to this release window

[stone stump]

because it's a joke

[sudden marsh]

they shouldved delayed 1.0, because we all know how that ended up.

[soft narwhal]

I agree

[stone stump]

a funny way to explain a sudden delay

i even said myself that you can deduce they meant northern hemisphere

[soft narwhal]

Yes, then you followed up with this

[stone stump]

just like you could make a joke about the "by the end of the year". they haven't said what year, but you can tell it's 2023

a joke, all there is to it

[stone stump]

and this too #👮ron-discussion message

the difference here is that in this case they could pull this off (but not that they will)

tldr: don't use seasons in a message targeted to the entire world without specifying the hemisphere

just like you state the timezone

[plain osprey]

[lost inlet]

fat raccoon

[plain osprey]

That's rude.

[lost inlet]

but your pfp is a fat raccoon

[plain osprey]

He's not fat

He just likes to eat

[lost inlet]

so he chubby raccoon

[plain osprey]

[lost inlet]

[prime wing]

Gluttony

[safe veldt]

is this game pvp brother?

[lost inlet]

[stone stump]

hopefully never

[sudden marsh]

if it was it would be a bug fest + zero shader compilation = stutter
will not be good for combat

don't forget the random freezes and crashes

[stone stump]

lack of shader precompilation is really exaggerated

it's not that bad

[sudden marsh]

not really, they load mid gameplay

[stone stump]

same shit happens in fortnite

[stone stump]

only once

[sudden marsh]

CS2, DI2, COD 2019, all have shader precompilation and they even tell you.

[humble mauve]

plus they have explicitly stated its one of the things planned for further optimization so like

[sudden marsh]

thats such a dumb excuse considering voids history

They also talked about the swat ai being play tested a bunch and it still has the same issues

[stone stump]

ron isn't a singleplayer linear(ish) game where lack of precompilation annoys you that much

[sudden marsh]

if you care about fluidity, stutters are an annoyance.
its a basic feature for UE4 titles with complex shaders.

[stone stump]

cool, but not that big of a deal

[sudden marsh]

if you enjoy signing on and dealing with a bunch of stutter, especially after driver updates more power to you.
If the first thing I'm greeted with in a game is stutter due to lack of proper features, every single time I turn it on... I'm good

the process takes way more than 5-10 seconds, I get graphics drivers several times a month.
rather compile it before gameplay and have it be smooth after.

[stone stump]

sounds like radeon skill issue

[sudden marsh]

im not even on radeon lol

[stone stump]

nvidia drivers update worst case scenario two times a month

[shy tulip]

COD warzone moment where you spend more time shader compiling than playing

[unkempt mountain]

when the game detects a mod and displays an unofficial score, does that prevent the game from giving achievements?

[shy tulip]

No

[soft narwhal]

Me when cod won't even start and crashes after shader compilation

Truly better than ron moment

It's done this twice to me. It started doing it in mw2022 them fixed itself, then now when I tried playing the free weekend, it's back again and I can't play it

[sudden marsh]

shader compilation doesn't fix crashes it fixes stutters
no need to sing the praises

[soft narwhal]

I'm not saying shader compilation causes it, I'm saying what happens after they finish in COD. Even when I relaunch and the shaders don't precompile

[humble mauve]

Think that’s just the engine

[soft narwhal]

It even happened to @plain osprey

Where the game would start then just straight up crash every single time

[shy tulip]

I dunno if I'd use Taps PC as a control sample

[plain osprey]

Yeah the game couldn't detect my laptop's GPU for some reason

[sudden marsh]

you were better off overheating using a laptop then crashing

[soft narwhal]

I'm only bringing up that was happening to me also happened to him,

Mw2019 worked perfectly fine for me, except cutscenes stutter like a mess sometimes.

[plain osprey]

I literally had to buy a whole new PC

[prime wing]

Taps pc must be studied

Tarkov, cod

They hate his ass

[plain osprey]

Why tarkov

I only have server issues on tarkov

But yes, CoD hates me

[peak ginkgo]

dont you think they should add the UTAS UTS 15

[prime wing]

Spit yo shit troy

[severe shell]

is there a way to report teamkillers or is it just allowed?

[sudden marsh]

there are no real rules in RoN because VOID can't enforce any so its technically allowed

i think there might be a votekick or someone with permissions of the lobby can kick

[modern steeple]

Am i the only one that got a problem with the VKS? If i take off my laser, then it would still show and if i change to the flashlight then it would be a laser when i go out off the locker :/

And if i take everything off the laser would still be there

[severe shell]

oh i see thanks

[crystal knoll]

this might be a dumb question but is the ads zoom setting realistic

like obviously you can't zoom in with your eyes but couldn't it be realistic for someone who brings the firearm closer to their face when they shoot

[stone stump]

no

[shy tulip]

I don't think it's generally recommended, it's not gonna be in the spot you want it to be to properly shoulder/hold it, and if you fire you might poke your eye out if you're too close.

(I am talking out of my ass)

[sudden marsh]

did u wash beforehand

[stone stump]

no real man does

[drifting burrow]

https://tenor.com/view/ghost-modern-warfare2-stare-meme-2022-gif-27104713

well i was gonna send a ghost staring gif but just rent a gun at the range, its a lot easier to look through the rear sight than the game makes it out to be

[frail quartz]

Whether it's realistic or not, it's hard enough for me to see as is and I am not disabling it anytime soon

I don't know what kind of undiagnosed ADHD I have but my brain cannot register objects for shit

[drifting burrow]

its kinda realistic and unrealistic at the same time. like you wouldn't be able to zoom in with your eyeballs, but you would have the sights a lot closer to your face in general, if you were shouldering and leaning your cheek against the stock. its really just an issue regarding fov with fps games in general

[tacit gull]

I'm guessing it's supposed to be a gamey implementation of tunnel vision, your eyes do hyperfixate on further objects and adjust accordingly

[frail quartz]

I mean, in real life having more peripheral vision doesn't make your central vision less clear like how FOV works in games. I think the ADS zoom isn't meant to be your eyes literally zooming in, it's just meant to simulate how clear your vision would realistically be if you didn't have to sacrifice clarity for more peripheral.

[tacit gull]

^pretty much that yeah

[frail quartz]

But yeah, I'm not really sure how the vision effects work in this game but areas that should be decently lit feel unnaturally dark sometimes. I shouldn't have to turn on my flashlight in order to see clearly in a hallway with most of the lights turned on

[tacit gull]

But iron sights in general (especially closed sights) work way better in real life since your eyes also adjust accordingly, leaving the frame less noticable

[frail quartz]

Yeah, that's kind of why a lot of video games have rear sights/optic frames be unusually thin, it blocks your vision more than it would in real life

[drifting burrow]

its not an easy thing to display, zooming in is a workaround to a sorta complicated issue

[tacit gull]

There are a few games who find ways to make the ironsights actually work, some older games just make the sight transparent while others zoom the camera through the sight, there was this one game that did it perfectly that i cannot remember the name of at all

[drifting burrow]

personally the most realistic depiction ive seen is h3vr, but that's kinda cheating since that's just a vr game

[frail quartz]

Yeah, I think I remember a game that had the rear sights on guns blur and defocus so you mainly only saw the front sight

[tacit gull]

But yeah that's exactly why the MP5 and SCAR have their sights cut off

(don't use the MP5 in insurgency with the ironsight 💀)

also don't use the mk18 or g36 with the ironsight because

well

[drifting burrow]

sometimes ready or not bugs out for me and it doesn't even zoom in while aiming down sights, that's kinda tough to deal with

it goes away when i go back to the police headquarters or another map

[tacit gull]

Iron sight zoom is permanently disabled once you use the tablet

[frail quartz]

VOID moment

[drifting burrow]

oh so thats what was causing it

man

[tacit gull]

good thing i play without it

cause that would piss me the fuck off

[frail quartz]

Do you mind if I borrow your object perception for a lil bit plz?

Or whatever the scientific term is for being able to quickly glance at something and go "Oh hey, there's a bad guy"

[tacit gull]

To be honest i'm lacking on that front aswell sometimes but i manage to get the two shots off before it's too late

[drifting burrow]

also this is technically the most correct approach when you compare it to irl, but it also becomes unrealistic if you actually look at the rear sight on your monitor since that would be in focus instead lol

[tacit gull]

The game doesn't require you to challenge suspects so all you need to do is see if he has an object in his hand and you're good to shoot

[frail quartz]

I guess, but you're going to be spending a whole lot more time focussing on what you're aiming at rather than the sights you're using

[tacit gull]

When it comes to optics though i think i like SQUAD ICO the most currently

[frail quartz]

So a hybrid between reducing the width of the rear sight and blurring it at the same time?

[tacit gull]

I'm kind of unclear on what goes on behind it but visually i think it's top notch

And it serves the gameplay perfectly

I wish RON would have something of the sort for its guns

[drifting burrow]

true yeah some devs just like to leave it unblurred for visual appeal i think, and just let the player look at what they want on the screen with their own eyes. it really just depends on what game its trying to be

[sudden marsh]

ICO isn't bad, its overhated by people in the community.

[drifting burrow]

one thing i hate about squad is the visual blur when you get suppressed

my vision goes from clear to like legally blind during that whole thing

[tacit gull]

Well that's probably the easiest way to get players to not try to return fire without getting out of suppression

[muted star]

I hate PiP scopes in every game

[tacit gull]

(wait untill he finds out about the 2d scopes in arma 3)

[muted star]

Literally waste of fps for nothing

Why they can't do it like Ins Sandstorm

Or COD even

[tacit gull]

Because then you have no peripheral

[muted star]

Still ain't worth it

They did it nicely in Battlebit of all things

[tacit gull]

I'm unsure but i think RON had PIP for every if not most optics in the PVP

[muted star]

If you free look you zoom out while still scoped in

[tacit gull]

I remember seeing the red dot and getting my mind blown from how real it looks

Anyway, there are games that did accurate PIP and mirrors without your pc exploding, RON can't even do the latter currently

I think they look great and it's a nice visual addition

[leaden idol]

hey can some help in training? i cant interact

[muted star]

Most of games can't do that decently

[tacit gull]

Can't interact with what?

[leaden idol]

can i send you a clip private?

[sudden marsh]

arma 3 is on a shit engine thats practically virtualizing a Pentium III 750MHz CPU
you can have a close equivalent a Nasa PC and it would still run bad in MP

[tacit gull]

I'm fully aware

I have no fucking clue how i put up with it for 900 hrs

On top of that i mentioned the scopes look like shit since they're an overlay like the ADS from fucking OFP

[muted star]

Is it better in Reforger?

[sudden marsh]

apparantly its supposed to be due to the new engine, but i haven't played the game nor will i ever will
i have trust issues with arma from now on lol

[sudden marsh]

they were vomit inducing holy christ

[tacit gull]

Reforger is absolutely gorgeous and from what i hear runs fine too

To be honest i think anything would run better than arma 3

[muted star]

Well I'll prob grab it tomorrow

[tacit gull]

I'm still waiting untill its like 15 bucks or something, not picking it up for anything more than that

[sudden marsh]

whats with the mixed reviews on reforger? is it due to bugs or lack of content or something

most of them speak the praises of waiting for arma 4

[tacit gull]

It's essentially a tech demo for arma 4 with both missing features and content

[muted star]

I heard it had really choppy start so that's why

[tacit gull]

But the features it's getting are amazing

It basically got an official implementation of ACE medical and a much improved interaction menu

And recently it's also gotten helicopters

[sudden marsh]

i hope arma 4 is the peak, im not trying to play fog of war with view distance just to get better frames in A3

[tacit gull]

Reforger looks so great that 3kliksphillip made an entire video on the rain puddles that form when it rains and how they interact

[sudden marsh]

i tried flashpoint since my friend gifted it to me for free and he even warned me that
it would probably be a poor experience beforehand

[tacit gull]

Atleast it runs above 20 fps

[sudden marsh]

performance gives it points, but not a pass the baked in mouse controls are god awful

[tacit gull]

Yeah that sensitivity is ridiculous

I'm fine with the aiming deadzone though, i like it

I fucking despise it in arma 2 and 3 since it doesn't go away once you ADS

[sudden marsh]

arma 3 new reviews are hidden on steam by default

and the positive rating is straight up there forever

[vivid brook]

Twisted nerves pissing me off I have done everything twice but apparantly didn’t get all the enemies

[stone stump]

how can you do everything without doing everything?

[vivid brook]

I searched the place atleast 3 times both times there was nobody

[stone stump]

that's ron 1.0 full release for you

[sudden marsh]

did u check the cave in the garage?

all the way in the back of the map

[soft narwhal]

its been like that since the game came out

not just 1.0

ive disliked that aspect of the game since the beginning tbh

kinda turns into walking simulator

[sudden marsh]

were in 1.0 and theres still no solution/counter to the issue

[soft narwhal]

its a gameplay loop/gameplay issue

they'd need to change how the gameplays or build new entirely new systems around it or making maps smaller

[tacit gull]

It's been a gameplay loop/issue since SWAT 4, it's only exacerbated by the size of the maps in RON

[soft narwhal]

when im sure there's other pressing matters such as more optimization and content

[vivid brook]

Yup

[tacit gull]

But that's also my problem with RON, as i feel it fails to innovate over SWAT 4 so far, granted it's still pretty much in alpha but there haven't been any real sweeping changes ever since the game came out in EA in my opinion

[vivid brook]

Is there anyway I can pass this mission 😂

is it just gonna be a endless bug

[tacit gull]

Check under beds or in closets

[sudden marsh]

meanwhile its a technical disaster and its going backwards in innovation

[vivid brook]

After my bed checks I’m gonna replay the mission

[tacit gull]

Yeah, the few places it does try to upstage are basically undone by the fact SWAT 4 was technically sound

[soft narwhal]

if its a suspect they're probably hiding somewhere

same thing with civvie

[vivid brook]

Finna try it again

[frail quartz]

I probably will try SWAT 4 one day and I'm terrified that it's going to completely ruin my perception of this game

[night pasture]

swat 4 is pretty bleh without mods, much like ron

[sudden marsh]

i have more hours on swat 4 than RoN ngl

just use the elite force mod

and for an added bonus the Mega Map Pack makes it better

[gilded bolt]

how can u shoot in the police base

outside of range

[rancid merlin]

Hello

Where can find Ready or Not Soundtrack?

[Edit] - I mean in files, so i can listen to it

[humble mauve]

In the files lots of individual elements are broken down due to the soundtrack in game varying based off of gameplay

The best way to get it is to find either a good manual mix, a raw gameplay recording with just music, wait for the official release of the soundtrack which should be soon, or attempt to manually mix it yourself

[stable kernel]

People have already ripped the ambient and combat tracks for the levels and put them on youtube, look it up. You can download the audio from those videos if you need

[rancid merlin]

oh i thought that Soundtrack was part of Supporter Edition

[tacit gull]

It will be once it's released

[sudden marsh]

they are really compensating supporters for a bad release big time huh

[rancid merlin]

Ah, That's explain alot

I've been sure that if game is in >1.0 then Soundtrack is released

[tacit gull]

Well "1.0" is a bit of a stretch

[sudden marsh]

the game was secretly in 0.8/0.9

it was an excuse just to increase the price

[rancid merlin]

I see...

[stone bay]

Why do I sometimes get a random friendly fire deduction of zero points?

[humble mauve]

supporter ost is approximately 1:30 - 2 Hours with extra bonus tracks

[pearl shuttle]

you dont understand bro they really needed huge maps because that really makes sense for 5 players

[frail quartz]

I think it might have something to do with accidentally flashbagning yourself/other teammates

[stable kernel]

I believe that is your team AI doing it to themselves or you, thus the zero. If you put nonlethals affecting your teammates you definitely lose points.

Regardless, even with the minus zero you can still get S rank, I have done it before

[inland wolf]

has anything been changed recently

regarding performance

[sudden marsh]

not really

no shader precompilation equates to stutter, they optimized the PD a bit but i havent seen anything noticible

[inland wolf]

im unable to load into my friends lobby (same mods)

it just gives me an "unable to connect to host" message

not saying anything further

[zenith bramble]

Has it been mentioned at all if the future holds a possible 9-bang added to Ron

For those who don’t know, it’s a flash grenade that has 9 consecutive flashes or “bangs”

[dreamy garden]

there are plenty of mods that have added it

most notably the sniper or not mod

its great all around if you're bored of normal gameplay

[sharp fox]

dont use frag grenades whatever you do

i keep killing civs on accident with it and my ai keep killing me for it

[inland wolf]

oh and they kill you 99% of the time but never the suspect

[bleak tartan]

this game is awesome

sauce

awesome sauce

[severe shell]

appreciate it

[hollow sparrow]

dont the grenades just stun the people affected by it?

like flashbang but better

[sharp fox]

frag grenades kill people

pretty sure they're designed that way

[random timber]

how many fps ill be able to get with 1050 ti and ryzen 5 2600?

[sudden marsh]

with dx12 atleast a minimium of 60

[random timber]

ok thanks

cuz i wasnt sure should i get RoN or no cuz ppl said 1050 ti isnt good for it

[sudden marsh]

it should get by decently, GTX 960 is the minimium spec requirement

[stone bay]

Speaking of dx12 does it have stability issues? game would crash somewhat often and didn't do it as much after I switched to dx11

[sudden marsh]

yeah it does, DX11 might give more frames but for RoN its generally not said to play on DX11

DX12 worked out for me, but it doesnt hurt to try both

[stone bay]

weird, it crashed more on dx12 for me

[sudden marsh]

DX11 killed my performance which is why i switched to DX12, ofc DX12 is prone to crashing

[stone stump]

fun fact: it's not. it depends on your specific machine

dx12 may not be the "magic fix" for everyone

[sudden marsh]

and i never said it was, thats why i suggested trying both.

and also yes DX12 is more prone to crashing it happens on every game just less chances unless its not optimized for it.

[stone bay]

So anybody know when the first DLC is coming? I want new maps for the game love RoN

[tacit gull]

Just mod the game, there's plenty of high quality maps out there

[sudden marsh]

its not known, but apparantly its coming sometime in spring

[stone bay]

i already have but i want to play with randoms new maps

and its really sad to see that good maps like the one hotel map or others got removed

[stone bay]

i see it coming in winter

[next stone]

so uhh

masks when????

[tacit gull]

Most likely next update

[next stone]

thats a lie and you know it

[tacit gull]

I really don't think so

[stone bay]

ha, I just found a pretty neat exploit

if you have the Sniper or Not mod installed and make a preset using the new weapons and save a preset you can close your game, uninstall the mod, start a new save game and use the preset in what the game thinks is an unmodded save file

[shy tulip]

(Almost as if the weapons it adds are just weapons already in the files)

[inland wolf]

he did

[floral pulsar]

Meow

[stable beacon]

moew

[floral pulsar]

Mew

[stable beacon]

me

[floral pulsar]

M

[stable beacon]

_

[floral pulsar]

Ma-ma-ma my

[stable beacon]

first ever game i got A+ score

im happy

[floral pulsar]

I got a S+

[stable beacon]

rahhhh

[floral pulsar]

I gassed the entire gas

[stable beacon]

ironic

[floral pulsar]

G a s

[stable beacon]

my pc is just good enough to run the game 😭

[floral pulsar]

Womp Womp

I have a 4090

[stable beacon]

thats mean 😦

[stable beacon]

damn bro

[floral pulsar]

An Alienware Ryzen 15

[stable beacon]

i got a 1070

[floral pulsar]

I started playing video games on a windows vista

And dell computing system the same age

Didn’t even have a 1060

[sudden marsh]

me running below spec on minecraft made my entire PC freeze and crash

[floral pulsar]

Same bro

[stable beacon]

tats wild

[floral pulsar]

I was on minimum chunks and still lagging

[hollow hornet]

hi just bought the game, any way to make the ui bigger? its tiny atm

[stone bay]

Oh sure, when the SWAT AI shoot and kill suspects it’s fine, but when I do it TOC comes in with the “ExErCiSe SoMe ReStRaInt”

[stable beacon]

do scores depend how fast u complete a level

[stone bay]

Is it advisable to stack on a door towards, or opposite the same side the handle is on?

[floral pulsar]

yesnt

[floral pulsar]

depends

make sure officers have a way to get away from the door without crossing it

[hollow sparrow]

"The Stinger Grenade is a non lethal grenade that fires several rubber balls at a low velocity meant to injure suspects." did u mean the stinger or like an actual frag grenade u get by mods?

[sharp fox]

Not the stinger, frag grenades in mods.

why am i using grammar i dont know

[hollow sparrow]

Ah my bad

I thought u meant a different grenade

[sharp fox]

all good

[stone stump]

no way we got people flexing with their overpriced alienware pcs before gta 6

[stiff spade]

is anyone elkse having problems with replay mode on 213 park homes

its basciallyt pitch black for me

[tacit gull]

It's a known bug

[stiff spade]

is it just always gonna be like dat

[stone stump]

bugs? yeah

[stark dew]

So, how’s the game optimisation, last time I played it, it was an unoptimised hell

I kinda wanna play the game but performance issues were god awful when I bought the game

[sharp geyser]

game is running fine, played for 12h straight and only noticed some frame drops when restraining people

[stark dew]

Also, did they add back balaclava

[stone bay]

Nope

[stark dew]

Well, Until we meet again!

[sudden marsh]

if you arrest people with long hair it drops frames lol

[sharp geyser]

also on rust belt at the very end of the tunnel I get massive frame drops

[median shadow]

im kinda thinking this game is CP77 territory, where you're probably better off waiting until it's received updates or you've updated your computer

i love the game because of my love for this type of game, it's not really in the state where i would recommend it as a game to someone who isn't specifically enamoured with the idea of SWAT style titles

[sudden marsh]

nah i would only stick to just waiting until it gets an update

im on a high end and its mean no difference if the games poorly optimized

[sharp geyser]

they get stressed if you kill the suspects/civs or if your officers are hurt

no, unless you're trying to get an S rank

[sudden marsh]

yeah, youll have to deal with the stress via sending to therapy or use less lethal

its a big trade off

[sharp geyser]

also, every gun is good, except the GA416 and MPX because they have a weird recoil control

personally I like the SA-58 and a modded Q Honey Badger (was ARWC)

[sudden marsh]

from the tablet

[inland wolf]

is there any way to make the combat music play more frequently

[stone bay]

I have officially fucking had it with TOC reprimanding me for not following the ROE when I’m trying to clear a hospital full of fucking terrorists

[frail quartz]

I mean, is it that hard to shout for compliance before firing?

Although iirc some of the old gamemodes used to have a loosened ROE built into them

Yeah NVM I get what you mean

I feel like the maps where you're serving a warrant should have a normal ROE but the maps that take place during emergencies should have the loosened ROE

[crude prism]

Unauthorized force for shooting down the 12+ active club shooters in the biggest terror attack since the early 2000s

(we should wait until they're done and then go clean up after) /s

[sharp geyser]

peek the door and you should be able to cut the wire or give a optiwand to a bot, make them scan the door and they can spot/disable the trap

or you can just place C2 and blow up the door

[urban tulip]

They need to do away with optiwand

[median shadow]

especially since you can just lean through the doors lol

as in, clip through the door itself to see whats on the other side

[zenith bramble]

Yeah..

[soft abyss]

Any guides or summary on what works best for AI teammates, regarding primary and secondary weapons?

[frail quartz]

"Editor's note: The sound of victims screaming has been removed."

[astral warren]

Optiwand isn't very useful on most doors but can be good for the select few unpickable doors if you want intel w/o making a lot of noise. It's also very good for checking rooms with awkward cover or stairwells.

[sharp geyser]

The wand got me killed a couple of times because a suspect came running and slammed the door on my face

[stone bay]

tbh the only thing I use the optiwand for is checking possibly trapped doors

[sharp geyser]

I used to but eh, I'd rather have stingers instead also I think it's a lot faster to peek the door and disarm the trap

Also it's only useful in 2 maps since the traps at Sins of the father are flashbangs only

[median shadow]

90% of the time if the AI dies it was because the enemy was shooting them and for some reason the AI bugged out and did not shoot back
In theory if you keep them with their default weapons, the pump action shotgun guy should always die first and the SMG guy should always die before either of guys with the powerful .300 blackout rifles would die

in practice it doesn't seem to matter

[frail quartz]

WYM, I check every goddamn door with it

+a whole bunch of corners as well

[drifting burrow]

thanks man i will try this latuh

[soft abyss]

That sounds bad, damn. Sounds like the .300 blackout it is, though.

Anyway trying out the pepper ball guns again and I thought they would be less useless. Cannot even pass the first mission with those. The enemies never drop their guns when sprayed and shouted at. Only non-lethal is beanbag shotgun, it seems.

[gleaming fable]

rip old pepperball gun

it made S runs easier.

[proven blade]

can you get the hermit by as soon as an officer dies, you just alt+f4 and it cant load?

[drifting burrow]

yeah thats what i did

[proven blade]

ok good ill try it tommorow

[drifting burrow]

its easier now imo, this was before the ai change

[proven blade]

mh

and i have tons of mods for ai

[drifting burrow]

i think the alt-f4 method still works though

i do it sometimes if i wanna quit and play something else but dont want my officers to get stressed since i ended the mission halfway through

[proven blade]

they get stressed because you end it early?

[drifting burrow]

yeah its an annoying thing that i genuinely wish wasn't there, like if i wanna quit the singleplayer game then lemme do it dude

[acoustic ridge]

sa58/lvar/arn180+five seven
high damage primary with armor pen capability+ high capacity secondary

[stable beacon]

i cant get past the executive hotel room map with the BOMB TRAPS

RAHHHH

[proven blade]

Just disable them

[stable beacon]

no really??

[proven blade]

Yes really!!

[stable beacon]

i use the snake cam to check and i see nothing then i open the door and i die

[proven blade]

Just get the mod to disable smh

[stable beacon]

mods are boring