👮ron-discussion

[thorn summit]

who needs life anyway

[jolly verge]

mp7 with ap is good only if suspect don't wear level 4 armor, anything below is 3 torso hit, and 4 on lethal obsession

[urban zenith]

It is a good smg, on single makes in armoured suspects dance but it wastes a lot of ammo if you don’t place your shots correctly

[sleek tiger]

What dose the stingers even do?

[opaque birch]

nothing use gas

[sudden marsh]

fax, stingers are basicially an excuse to expand the equipment roster

[shy tulip]

Something tells me people would be complaining if the game didn't have em

muh swat 4

[opaque birch]

but muh swat 4

[worthy wharf]

Yes I am! sorry I didn't respond but I had enough for the day and went to sleep lmao

[brittle spoke]

So my main 4 are anxious in commander if I re played gas station would they relax

Doing iron man and on mind jot I always fail here so want my best 4

[stone bay]

valley of the dolls be like arrest the prime suspect, but my 9mm disagreed

For S ranks i equip them with max armor and pepperball rifles and use them to clear rooms untill someone is injured

[brittle spoke]

Haven't made it to valley of the dolls yet

[stone bay]

then i takje over

[brittle spoke]

Hear alot about it

[stone bay]

the prime suspect is a very sussy man

i saw the evidence and i wanted to magdump him with my rifle

yuck

[brittle spoke]

Kicking ass today started on gas station this morning and on mind jot on iron man and no officers dead and team looks solid

4 r anxious cause brisa cove didn't go so well lol but hey we passed

[stone bay]

i want to keep my team around so their perks come online but it's just very boring

[brittle spoke]

None of my team got stressed till brisa my main 4 all perks unlocked but the anxious .. should I still use em in mind jot

I always fail here lol

[stone bay]

idk i usually die alot or revert to menu which stresses them out

cause i like being an edgy lone wolf

[brittle spoke]

I'm on iron man I can't die lol

I refuse to play Norma mode lol

[stone bay]

i was gonna do that

I wanna solo that

just as an insane flex

[brittle spoke]

It's kinda addicting ngl

[stone bay]

is there any way to see my score on missions without going in

[brittle spoke]

That be epic to solo it

Used to not sure now

[stone bay]

i have developed a decent solo method which is just using the shield

Good pistol with 3-4 mags and a shield, use that to kill as many suspects before the glass shatters fully since those are free kills

then switch to rifle

grenades only used when it's safer to do so

and obviously steel plates because they're based

[brittle spoke]

I love the shield but running mirror now after what happened my last iron run

[stone bay]

i have actually never used mirror ever

[brittle spoke]

Same I just started it helps

[stone bay]

hm

ok i'm gonna bring it on twisted nerve S

you are solely responsible for my life

[brittle spoke]

Im good at that map cause done it so many times lol

[stone bay]

my issue so far is that i get lit up and lose too much health over time

[misty island]

You can trry using my guide

[brittle spoke]

What's that

[misty island]

No

[misty island]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3190461026

[brittle spoke]

Ok thanks I'll check it out

[late idol]

Just do you iron man run as careful as you would do an S run, its just a lot easier with lethal weapons.

[misty island]

Free whh, espcially, if you know tthee ggame

[brittle spoke]

So hey my main 4 r anxious can I replay say gas station and rest those 4 would they go back to content

[misty island]

non lethal gas station

[brittle spoke]

My luck I'll die lol 😂

I'm a just use em fuq it .. I'll check out what I shared tho

[misty island]

Use my guide.

[brittle spoke]

Yea I'll check it out thanks man

[misty island]

It requires some skill and knowledge of the game.

[stone bay]

whh?

[brittle spoke]

Oh I've been playing since this shit came out

I kinda miss the old school way

[misty island]

Sorry, my keeyboard is boeken. I meant Wall Hacks.

[terse sandal]

is the eve in carriers of the vine the same eve as gerard yaps on about?

[brittle spoke]

@misty island ur guide is well written man love it

[stone bay]

bro how many suspects are there in twisted nerve, i've used 12 tasers

i only have 2 frags left

im gonna be force to kill people because im out of non lethal

[brittle spoke]

Lmao there tweakers bro tasers ain't gonna do shit

[stone bay]

i've arrested like 10 people

tasers work

[misty island]

Is it? I mean, almost went insiane in the end, so the queality declined

[brittle spoke]

Idk I'm just messing

[misty island]

-.-

[stone bay]

i did it lmao

my last frag got the last suspect

EASY babyyyy tasers are the best thing since sliced bread

gimme that S rank

i got the s rank

[gaunt turtle]

saw the trailers for the first time !!!

[tardy light]

Whats a good mod that adds more ai?

[misty island]

Got dissapointted?

[misty island]

#🔧modding-chat

[gaunt turtle]

just sad i can't see them for longer cause the mission ends too fast a lot of the time : (

[stone bay]

what happens if i use a battering ram on a suspect

[misty island]

He gets damagged.

[stone bay]

yeah i mean, how much

also is the breaching shotgun considered non lethal at all

and how many bullets does it carry

Since it deals low damage i wonder if i can make people surrender with it, similar to taser

[stark pendant]

So I need to restart

Btw tips to avoid them resigning? He was on stressed when we started and he got to crisis when we finished but just as I load into the PD I see he resigned.

Usually they get to crisis and don't resign until another match

So do I just remove him from the team as soon as he hits stressed?

[stone bay]

holy shit it worked!

I got a suspect to surrender after 4 entire shots to the torso with this thing

now i wonder what's the weapon with the lowest damage per bullet

[misty island]

Gas Station with less-lethal.

[misty island]

75ish

Ask @jolly verge

[misty island]

Kind of. It does very little damage.

[misty island]

I do no know, but you can check it in the killhouse.

[stone bay]

killhouse?

oh the bottom thing

[misty island]

Yes and no. As surrendering is tied to morale, breaching shtogun does very little damage to suspect's morale.

[misty island]

Yes.

[stone bay]

i thought all bullet hits did the same morale damage to suspects

[misty island]

if you want the watch. I can advice to use my guide, obviously.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3190461026

[misty island]

TBO, I never had problems with stress. To avoid that, you need to tie suspects down as much as possible.

[misty island]

Breaching shotgun, I think. Ask the guy I ping above.

[misty island]

I do not think so. Again, ask ApudZeus, as he is the nubmer guy.

[stone bay]

how's the breaching shotgun less lethal than beanbags

by the way why is this game so laggy

it stutters insanely badly

[sudden marsh]

are u on dx12?

[stone bay]

idk

[sudden marsh]

well check, my game ran better there after all shaders compiled

[stone bay]

what should i be on

dx12 or 11 or 9 or 69

[sudden marsh]

dx12

[stone bay]

how do i check this btw

[sudden marsh]

right click the game > properties
then under launch options you can see

[stone bay]

ooh right

thanks

[fiery flame]

day 2 of asking for automatic shotgun update

[opaque birch]

sniper or not

[fiery flame]

i dont think it has one

[opaque birch]

yes it does it has the saiga 12

[fiery flame]

its not on the mods page

[opaque birch]

go to nexus mods vro

mod io aint got shit on nexus

[gaunt turtle]

theory: what if the 3 names on the kid's bracelet are Judge's kids????

[opaque birch]

mf added 4 interrogation marks as if hes bringing up some ancient esoteric knowledge only achieved by insane speculation 😭

[fiery flame]

i belive that i downloaded right mod but to which folder do i add it

[vernal bane]

PAKs folder

[fiery flame]

with all of these #🎨ron-screenshots-and-art

[vernal bane]

Yea

[fiery flame]

its taking a little longer to open up menus and it isnt syncing with steam cloud is that normal?

[vernal bane]

Menus thing was normal for me, steam cloud I never encountered an issue w/

[fiery flame]

it works, thank you sir. now i can full auto into the nearest person i see

[brittle spoke]

@misty island thanks again man 😁 I really like ur guide I tried it in practice mode on the early maps and yea I like ur tactics.. I add in a few things I do but overall it's very good man

[stone bay]

going for S rank on sinuous trail

[brittle spoke]

Good luck

How do u switch hands again with a pistol

[stone bay]

switch hands?

also i perished

[brittle spoke]

Yea can't u use it holding left handed or right handed

I recall I just to lazy to lookdd din the controls

[stone bay]

what? no

you mean you just handle it with one hand?

ive never heard of this

[brittle spoke]

No my bad thinking of a different game I looked it up

Be nice tho as I am left handed lol

[stone bay]

ah

[brittle spoke]

Be neat tho but as a setting .. not to switch during the game .. if he left handed u should be able to

But not switching during game .. not like everyone can just switch left or right handed 🤣

[stone bay]

i wish i had cool guns like in game but gun laws suck here

i wanna buy a gas powered airsoft gun

[brittle spoke]

What state u in lol

[stone bay]

a state of suffering and destruction

The question is incorrect

[brittle spoke]

I'm in Cali r laws suck but I have some nice shut guns .. we go out once a month and shoot the the clay targets

I live out in a ranch so we got spots to shoot at the sheriff's have rolled up in us but they don't care we clean up and there is nothing by us and a hill or mini mountain

[stone bay]

america is the only nation

[brittle spoke]

My buddy is a highway patrol lucky bastard allowed to own some guns I can't he has some nice ones

[stone bay]

yeah

i wish i had like a sig or something, a neat small 9mm i can shoot the shit with

[brittle spoke]

Yea honestly feel should be mandatory in life to have a nice 9mm

[stone bay]

The only gun i've... ""owned""... is a shitty old 40

[brittle spoke]

Well that's still cool lol

[stone bay]

yeah i guess it was cool for a bit but it got old fast

My most ridiculous moment with that gun was me hitting a flick like i was in a videogame

[brittle spoke]

Sorry a flick ?

[stone bay]

i shot one target, then i switched my aim to the next target before the gun settled from recoil, but because the trigger was light i accidentally pulled the trigger as i was moving the fuckin gun and i just went BANGBANG and hit both targets perfectly like a cowboy

[brittle spoke]

Nice

Yea from games I just fired Mike from hip view all natural first time .. ain is defense that way not perfect but yes

Gosh I cant type lol .. sorry my hands r cramping up a bit .. ugh in getting old

[stone bay]

i feel weird about guns becauase they're cool but also i have zero trust in myself

that's why i want an airsoft one so i can just shoot cans of soda around the house in my underwear

I've shot 22, 9mm, 40, 45, some rifles

[brittle spoke]

I see as a sport as we like friends and co workers we go and shoot targets and keep score .. I see it as sport .. of course yea self defense

[opaque birch]

airsoft is cool frfr

[stone bay]

yeah target practice is fun

[opaque birch]

i own an airsoft gbb 1911 its really cool

[stone bay]

i have 3 incredibly shitass chinese spring loaded guns

[brittle spoke]

Airsoft is fun liked that more then paintball

[stone bay]

sometimes i clear my house with an airsoft gun when i'm bored

and i die

https://tenor.com/view/simulations-just-like-the-simulations-harrisonfog-battlefront2remaster-discord-gif-16952806

[brittle spoke]

We used to get down on the ranch with airsoft

I ran a shot gun with a legit red dot scope lol

[opaque birch]

playing paintball was fire. one of the dudes i was playing with got mad and shot me in the leg at point blank before the round started 😭 shit hurt

[stone bay]

i want to play airsoft at some point seems really really fun

everyone thinks they're hot stuff with guns so it would be nice to put it to the test

[opaque birch]

man airsoft with randoms would probably just turn into larp really quick

[brittle spoke]

Ok paint ball is fun but sorry they did that bad sportsmanship

[stone bay]

larping is not bad

[brittle spoke]

We have a good spot out here for paintball and airsoft be like 40 on 40 on these makeshift battlefield's

[opaque birch]

WHAT

[brittle spoke]

Think is called SC village they have a lot of old military stuff to on the courses

[opaque birch]

he was being a doodoohead before a round started and he was 20 meters from me so i shot him in the leg and barely hit his foot thats why he got mad lol

like showing us the middle finger n shit

and he was sayin like eye for an eye

im like bro... i took ur finger nail you took my whole ass arm dont come at me with that shit 😭

[brittle spoke]

Lame .. like yea it hurts but ur playing so suck it up u got hit ur out

Yea I'm sorry man that guy was being a punk then

I'ma go play .. mind jot ugh I'm ready .. farthest I've made it iron mode so here goes

Been delaying lol but is go time

[opaque birch]

mindjot worst optimized map in the game

20fps for me at the entrance

[brittle spoke]

Sent u friend request jp 🙂 I'll be lurking in chat later

[opaque birch]

yuhh i accepted

[brittle spoke]

Yo my gaming laptop runs this game ok I average 70 fps .. but yea at start gosh it gets low lol

Not bad tho

[opaque birch]

yeah i got a gaming laptop too it kinda suffers on some parts

[brittle spoke]

Hey don't care what anyone says I like the laptops but I travel for work sometimes so I can take it with lol

[opaque birch]

its good to take it around thats tru

[brittle spoke]

My buddy tho he has a bad as PC but it has it moments this game as well but he running it high graphics

[opaque birch]

this game is really poorly optimized itll have shit moments on any rig ngl

[opal fractal]

Anyone else getting put in random games when trying to join there friend

[stone bay]

holy shit

i managed to unalive myself in the police station

im goated

[balmy locust]

i beg the holy devs that we worship for this game

[balmy locust]

PLEASE

[stone bay]

if you shoot the metal in the gun range you can get a ricochet into your head

[balmy locust]

we need a command where the AI just pops all and every suspect's head they see straight off

[balmy locust]

please say there is some sort of video of this

[stone bay]

omw

[ionic gale]

Help

[ionic gale]

I never had that happen to me ;-;

[stone bay]

bam it's in media

quite funni i think

[lone nexus]

do yall think there are gonna be any new maps coming soon or in general

[vernal bane]

There's a new DLC coming, so I'm assuming there's new map(s)

[cold island]

hello sorry i was asleep that time

anyway sure man but uh i just completed the first mission so i still dont know how to go on about this yet

[stone bay]

man sinuous trail is kinda rough

performance doesn't help either

[cold island]

Anyone have tips for taking down criminals?? I find myself warning them too much before shooting them and getting hurt myself

[balmy locust]

just shoot everyone you see

[stone bay]

yeah i do

[balmy locust]

dont warn them, blast with a shotgun

[cold island]

but don't you get extra points for apprehending them

[balmy locust]

you dont need extra points

[stone bay]

equip beanbag shotgun and deck people in the stomach without warning

[balmy locust]

and blasting is much more fun, next time they wont give you ptsd.

[stone bay]

it is not lethal if you hit them in the stomach, magdump them

dont bother shouting just abuse every suspect and then shout

[cold island]

ok guess i gotta stop with the headshots

[balmy locust]

no continue

no mercy will be given

[stone bay]

well if you want to have fun just play like that

[balmy locust]

no mercy must be given

[cold island]

[stone bay]

But remember that is against our roe to shoot them before they unload half a mag on us

[balmy locust]

fuck roe as long as i dont get mag dumped by my teamates their dying

[stone bay]

it is not against RoE to non lethal them

beanbag is not lethal

Equip your wife beater tank top and literally just embrace decking people in the stomach until they can't breathe

[balmy locust]

https://tenor.com/view/hype-letsgooo-gif-23992999

[stone bay]

On an unrelated note does anyone think that the old carriers of the vine map was better

[balmy locust]

hyping myself up to do a solo run on the gas station map

[stone bay]

i solod it on my first go

[balmy locust]

question, if your teamates are holding and you magdump a civ, do they chase you?

[stone bay]

no

[balmy locust]

thank god

[stone bay]

well they might eventually chase you if you are unhinged and kill like 3

[balmy locust]

i have too much fear of this game to go solo

[stone bay]

gas station is very easy though

[balmy locust]

well shit, now i gotta be careful

[balmy locust]

overcoming fears arent

[stone bay]

it's really not an issue, you can shoot them in the stomach once and they wont die

[balmy locust]

the hotel map is still affecting me

[stone bay]

i've done it on accident

I'm waiting on playing the hospital map

If I fail I lose 20 mins

i can't tell if i want to use heavy or light armor

[balmy locust]

oh wait im a dumbass

ill just do multiplayer, no ai team to run to now

[stone bay]

I still shudder thinking about the swat ai before the update

[balmy locust]

may we have a moment in silence

[stone bay]

You were baby sitting four highly trained and dangerous men

Like they were 5

[balmy locust]

https://tenor.com/view/moment-of-silence-pay-respect-rip-rest-in-peace-bow-gif-15963301

[balmy locust]

imagine this as a sitcom or somthingg

[stone bay]

They didn't even know object permanence yet and were taking down terrorists

[stone bay]

Kindergarten cop but he recruits the kids

[balmy locust]

"JIMMY, WHY THE FUCK ARE YOU TRYING TO SHOOT THROUGH THAT BULLETPROOF WINDOW, YOUR SUPPOSE TO BE SEAL-TEAM SIX WORTHY DANG DAMMNIT."

[stone bay]

They cry in the middle of the mission

And ask for apple juice

[balmy locust]

"JIMMY STACK THE FUCK ON THIS DOOR, NOT CRY IN THE FUCKING CORNER"

"JIMMY IM ON THE FUCKING FLOOR, GET YOUR MEDKIT NOT YOUR LUNCH BAG."

[stone bay]

They can't even walk because the armor is too heavy

That is exaclty what it was like before the update

They didn't do a single thing until you told them to

[balmy locust]

how the fuck do people hyperventilate into a bag

like arent you just running out of oxygen while breathing c02

[stone bay]

Idk

Stress or something

[balmy locust]

wouldnt they pass out from legit blocking oxygen from getting back into the bag while refilling said bag with carbon dixoide

[stone bay]

Can't be anxious if you are unconscious

[balmy locust]

true

[shy tulip]

If CO2 was bad for the brain then the brain wouldn't have your body create it

[stone bay]

Well if you have no oxygen thats bad

okay poop deniers, riddle me this

[stone bay]

Can't convince me it's real no matter what

[balmy locust]

but youve produced shit before

[balmy locust]

i just did cause the ai decided to scare the literal shit out of me cause why not

[frail quartz]

One of the Mindjot employees just told me "Go fuck your mother!" like, I understand you're thankful for us rescuing you and all, but I'd rather congratulate myself in a way that doesn't involve your weird and highly illegal fetishes

If I return to find this message deleted I will not be surprised

[stone bay]

saying that to a heavily armed person who just saved your life takes some balls

[frail quartz]

To be fair, they may or may not be involved in the whole "illegal operations" thing so they might view it as more of an arrest than a rescuing

[stone bay]

Everyone and their dog is a CP dealer in this game

[frail quartz]

Yeah, I just went to the holding cells and three of the employees are in there

There surprisingly isn't actually a single mindjot guard in there either

[gaunt turtle]

speaking of mindjot i really wanna cosplay the guards they look cool imo

[grim hound]

I have new downloaded mod map from nexus. but failed to join in multiplayer. I died before I join so I can only spectate. Is it my device problem or the mod?

[stone bay]

got yet another S rank on sinous

beanbag shotgun really is amazing for this

[visual mortar]

Just be careful not to headshot them too close because they can die from it

[stone bay]

yea

time to do greased palms and absolutely suffer

[gloomy isle]

Don’t headshot them at any range

[stone bay]

center mass stays winning i know

[gloomy isle]

When you get angry and go lethal, headshot as much as you want

Also, shooting limbs with bean bag also works. I’ve shot many a hand peaking past a corner

[stone bay]

unfuckingbelievable

suspect shot through an innocent guy's head just to get to me

causing me to fail the mission

[grim hound]

There's a moment where I went John Wick mode. My body is full red but I didn't die. The moment I got shot I always bleed and due to John Wick mode I'm instinctively take cover instantly. I can also stop the bleeding. Why is that?

[stone bay]

what?

if your body is full red it means you got hit on every limb

[grim hound]

How did I not die and can always stop the bleeding?

[stone bay]

you can always stop the bleeding by holding f

[grim hound]

What happened to my HP tho during that?

[stone bay]

dunno

[muted nymph]

guys i was wondering how many FPS can i get with RX 580 4GB and i7-4790 in the game

[stone bay]

your HP bar is actually your outline, not the fill of the limbs

your arms and legs might be red, but with a white outline it means you're healty

[grim hound]

Ohhh, I can't see it. So I probably still have HP although I got shot everywhere.

My body totally red, including the neck xD

[stone bay]

yeah your body's outline is your total HP meter

also if you're wearing steel and they keep hitting your plates, you can go on for a while

[grim hound]

Is there a way to change it? To yellow, blue or green for example? I can't see it clearly since both are red.

[stone bay]

steel is unbreakable and will never allow your torso to be hurt

im not sure

[stone bay]

i just hit a sick trickshot

[jolly verge]

nothing, you can't hit anyone with it, except players. Bashing deal 0 damage to all bots in game, but player do take damage from it

[stone stump]

of course it will, because steel only reduces the damage

[tacit gull]

It's also heavier than feathers

[stone stump]

what's heavier, 1kg of steel or 1kg of feathers?

[tacit gull]

It's steel, because steel is heavier than feathers

[drifting sand]

So, what's the difference between ceramic and steel plate?

And how does this play with the different levels of armour (light, medium, heavy).?

[stone stump]

and i can't even tell if you're joking smh

[stone stump]

there's no medium armor, it's light or heavy

[stone stump]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1d89lpFDA9lo_v13iBlnhtuA6DvuUnKfPaeo0d4RBGJ4/edit

[drifting sand]

You get what I mean....

What do the levels do vs the plate type?

[stone stump]

check the link above

[tacit gull]

Ceramic stops all danage untill it breaks, steel reduces damage and doesn't break

[stone stump]

ceramic is more balanced and suitable for full front-side-back protection, while steel... is just there, making you move like a turtle

and everytime you get shoot, bullet splashes and hits nearby individuals made of flesh

[drifting sand]

I'm more confused about armour levels than plate type TbH

[stone stump]

armor levels are for the suspects

[drifting sand]

Plate type is fairly well known; what IS confusing is that there's a vest level as well.

So what does light vs heavy armour do? Given they have the same plate.

[stone stump]

more coverage

[tacit gull]

Heavy armor just allows you to have plates on your side, that's it

[drifting sand]

So armour type just affects coverage?

[tacit gull]

Max coverage yes

[stone stump]

heavy protects your sides (light doesn't, even if it says it does) and more torso coverage

light armor has more "gaps"

more info is in that spreadsheet too, in the armor, vests and helmets sheet

[tacit gull]

Honestly i feel like the tutorial should explain armor now that it's cosmetic, in the past it made more sense even if hour arms still weren't covered at all

[stone stump]

bold of you to expect any kind of competency

[lost inlet]

[upbeat heath]

i normally wouldnt use shotguns but yesterday i fell in love with the supernova
it feels like it has higher damage and less visual recoil
and it is very accurate from long range

[grim hound]

Is LVAR the shortest AR?

[sleek tiger]

Bombs are my biggest enemyes

[grim hound]

Also, does steel heavier than ceramic in the game?

[upbeat heath]

as in slowing you down?

[jolly verge]

only in terms of acceleration, max move speed is the same

[grim hound]

yeah. like when I move from cover to cover.

or quick move through hallway

[upbeat heath]

yeah if you use steel it takes a little bit longer for your movement to accelerate

with heavy armor you are a shooting target for like a second

[grim hound]

I need to point A to point B but I have pass stair + lobby so I need to move little bit fast

[stone stump]

suppressed yes, but overall it's ARN-180

[grim hound]

Also, does smoke, uh, what's the word in english. obsecured?? does it obsecured enemy's vision? cmiiw about the wording.

[upbeat heath]

i would recommend to sticking with ceramic
yes you would die faster but you would also get in cover faster if you get ambushed while running thru a hallways

[tacit gull]

Tear gas does not obscure AI vision

[upbeat heath]

i dont think it affects their vision

[tacit gull]

It should be pretty see-through in itself

[upbeat heath]

tear gas is quite literally the same as a smoke grenade used against bots on cs source

[stone stump]

you definitely won't die faster in ceramic, unless you're talking about a skill issue where you're constantly getting hit

[upbeat heath]

fax

i have a skill issue ;-;

[grim hound]

I'm trying to solo clear this wonderful map. Sanctum something.

[stone stump]

...deceit

[tacit gull]

Sanctum's Deceit is incredible, puts most maps to shame

[upbeat heath]

what map was sanctums deceit gain?

[grim hound]

it's a mod map.

[upbeat heath]

was it the night mission

[grim hound]

I mean for real. This is the best map imo. It's close quarter but there's some place mid - long like in the middle area.

ya at night, and raining

would be more challengin if the have bang traps but I guess it's too much considering we have so many doors and the enemis is deadly as well.

[upbeat heath]

I was just about to say something but then i remembered im on my last strike

I dont want an unappealable ban almost instantly after getting unbanned

[grim hound]

why so? we are talking about map right?

[grim hound]

Stinger or Flashbang decrease enemies morale better?

[upbeat heath]

Oh wait nvn

[tacit gull]

It doesn't really matter as if either of them hit the suspects will surrender

[upbeat heath]

I thought that operation neptune spear and sanctums deceit were the same thing

[tacit gull]

But i think stingers have longer range

[grim hound]

if the enemies cover behind desk or something, will they got banged? or stinger can do better?

[tacit gull]

No, i'm pretty sure both need LOS on target

[grim hound]

how effective is 9 bang actually? I tried both but seems like doesn't do much compared to singer or flasher. Maybe I use it wrong.

[tacit gull]

I think the 9 banger is broken, it's from a mod either way

[upbeat heath]

9 bang works as a distraction
Normal and 3 bang are better

[grim hound]

ohhhhh. I thought it's like flash bang but not bang team.

waht is 3 bang?

[undone lion]

a 9 bang but with 3 🙂

rather than a distraction, a 3 bang tends to serve as a normal flashbang though goes off multiple times to increase effectiveness

(I think)

[grim hound]

the faster boom boom boom one? I see I see.

Do we have a probability on how much suspects will come to the source of sound?

[severe wedge]

This game is addictive asf

[cold island]

Is there a way to reduce my flashlights brightness. I feel like it's way too blinding especially in close quarters

Or should I switch to the shorter flashlight I belive was called WS light or smth I forgot

[tawny scroll]

guys has anyone ever used the pvs7s???

just found out about it the other day when equipping the dual nods

[tacit gull]

They're pretty cool if you wanna be vintage, but they're literally the same otherwise

[tawny scroll]

🫵🏽 if we have that and an m16a4 mod, we need like a woodland iba vest mod for either bdrtac vest or lspd heavy vest

[tacit gull]

I feel like some new customisation is coming, considering some pieces we saw in the past are not in the game

[blazing eagle]

They should add the CQCM Mask as a cosmetic item for the ballistic mask

Earn it by beating sins of the father or another map without cosmetics

[tacit gull]

There's a mod for that so far

[blazing eagle]

🤑🤑🤑

[tacit gull]

I dont think you could wear it with a helmet though, i'd rather it was a way to have ballistic facemask without helmet

i'd use the fuck out of it just for the style points

[blazing eagle]

I agree

Hopefully they add a ski mask

[tacit gull]

They want to add balaclavas, and one of the trailers shows surgical masks as facewear aswell

[blazing eagle]

Ski masks seems easy to add since they already have a model or two in the game

[tacit gull]

Masks require separate meshes for each face for each officer

That's how the old facemasks worked and that's probably why they didn't get added to 1.0

[blazing eagle]

I see

[tacit gull]

Someone did make a mod that replaces faces with the legacy mask models

[blazing eagle]

I don’t like downloading mods because it always fucks up my ron whenever an update comes

And then I always have to delete and reinstall my ron

[copper cypress]

Will the Kill Me command be triggered if a ricochet kills an arrested civilian or suspect?

[tacit gull]

Well the game kinda sucks without some of them, so...

Also you can just... delete the mods

[stone stump]

you don't have to, you just chose to

[severe wedge]

I wish the light was bigger. Trying to see in a tunnel was a pain in the ass

[jolly verge]

any damage from you that will incap/kill surrendered suspect/civi will trigger it

[copper cypress]

Well, it seems I can't just use “accidental” as the reason for not triggering it lol

[cold island]

that too fr

[drifting sand]

I wish the flashlights had a momentary flash effect; having a strong light flashed into your eyes tends to stun people more than one would give it credit for.

And I wish we had a more diffused light that was not an attachment.

[leaden holly]

I have given up valley of the dolls S run

AI do the stupidest thing like walking into line of fire and I rely on them to clear rooms

[tacit gull]

There's your issue
AI is incapable of clearing, valley is basically a diceroll if they clear the pool+1st floor without getting demolished

[leaden holly]

Dice roll indeed, and I wish they can actually stay in cover instead of peeking head out to get shot

Because of the stupid enemy AI shooting up into the 3rd floor via the window from the ground floor for some reason

[turbid grove]

☠️ Dint he lose his Balls in one Mission?

[sharp fox]

nah what 💀💀

[analog flint]

wait fr? 💀

[copper cypress]

.300 JHP still has a high kill chance against a suspect wearing Armor 4?

I killed QADAMAH in a firefight with .300 JHP. But I remember just shooting him in the chest ==

[thorn summit]

sa58 tends to kill instantly and now all my dudes are stressed

[copper cypress]

I guess he might just turn out to be wounded, but he dies ?_?

[neat robin]

Me watching my entire team of highly trained professionals have a mental breakdown because i killed a fucking terrorist

[copper cypress]

This means that my .300 JHP is enough to kill the four suspects in the elephant level without using AP?

lmao

[thorn summit]

when in doubt, run the sa58

[copper cypress]

But the chance of ricocheting is too high and is very dangerous to the hostages haha

[neat robin]

I’ve never had a hostage be killed by ricochet

[thorn summit]

hear me out, kill the hostages

then there are no more to ricochet into

[neat robin]

Not like you can get an S rank with guns anyway (the intended way to play)

[thorn summit]

you do s rank for the challenge, not for the moral aspects

[copper cypress]

Yup

[copper cypress]

It sounds like Russian style🤣

[copper cypress]

Only one?

[neat robin]

The SWAT team in this game are the most unstable people ever

[jolly verge]

nope, .300 jhp is 3 pen class, which is not enough to penetrate level 4 armor, you will need 6-7 shots depending on map

[copper cypress]

It sounds like as long as the shooting mode is switched to full auto, it will be fine 🤔

[stone bay]

More unstable than a terroist leader

[neat robin]

Literally

[stone bay]

How dare we shoot a terroist for shooting at us

How dare we not shoot a terroist with pepper balls

Or shoot them with beanbags

[thorn summit]

you know what, why dont we just ask them nicely

[stone bay]

I legit kill one dude who shoots at me and my team all had to go to therapy and is having a midlife crisis at 25

[neat robin]

“Mr terrorist pls stop blowing up civilians”

[stone bay]

Then the next mission, they all die

[neat robin]

id love to meet the supposed advisors helping with this game

[pearl shuttle]

All the advisors were confirmed to have never served in a military or law enforcement capacity

[grim hound]

incapacitet is not S, correct?

[onyx abyss]

https://tenor.com/view/gun-shoot-me-gif-14188290

me looking at the current state of performance

[solid patio]

how to beat greased palms bro

my palms getting greasy clicking on and off the game cause im dying 😔

[limpid berry]

I beat greased palms because of this carefully though strategy called

Shoot everyone

But I dont think I should be giving advice when it took FUCKING 15+ MINUTES TO FIND ONE GODDAMN CIVILIAN

[stone bay]

Greased palms is ridiculous

[crude prism]

greased palms is fun and enjoyable and totally not suffering incarnate

[stone bay]

I completed it by just bringing a shield and using that to take down suspects until i couldn't see shit anymore

Then i used it to cross dangerous areas without dying

Now I'm trying to get an S on it

[crude prism]

ah, suffering +

[waxen grove]

Any new news?

[austere silo]

I just had a case in Ironman mode, where although 2 of my guys got blown up from an IED, at the end of the mission they were alive and content. These 2 guys were both red team and one of them was a Moral Officer. Anyone else had that?

[stone bay]

By the way, to get the watch by beating iron mode, do you need to follow roe at all? Can't you just blast everything

[stone bay]

If you arrest enough suspects officers will stay content even if someone dies

Doesn't seem to matter who dies

An officer dead is the same as a suspect dead

[austere silo]

@stone bay But the dead guys were alive and content... They lived thanks to their moral standards and contentment...

[stone bay]

Oh

Well idk

[jolly verge]

chance for officer to die after mission is 50%

so they alive because it's did not proc

or you have paramedic in roster

[austere silo]

@jolly verge Ooh I did not know that! They seemed very much dead after that explosion but ok... No I did not have a paramedic. I had moral officer, kicker, moral officer, intimidator

[jolly verge]

they always will have dead icon in game and blood pool

but it's not indicate that they are really dead

[austere silo]

Ooh ok, it is only an indication of officer down. Then it is 50% if they are actually dead or not. I get it now, thanks!

[waxen grove]

It’s been what 3 months, with very few bug fixes.
Great to see void back to their old tricks.
Its really inexcusable at this point but I guess void is gonna sell us the dlc in a few months anyways

[austere silo]

Bugs? What bugs? Officer FireStryker, you should see the therapist, I will put you out of the next mission.

[waxen grove]

Yeah feels like that’s voids aprorch

We still have poor performance and lack of any kind of optimisations, no level of polish what so ever, numerous bugs, an ai that just isn’t fun to play against.

Ready or not is just still not ready, I want this game to do well and I really wanna enjoy it but it’s frustrating when everytime I’m reminded of this game it’s the same sorry of void running in ultra quiet.

We still have no sdk so the modders can only go so far into fixing the mess that we got

[blazing eagle]

Troubleshooted through the whole nine yards yes I do have to

[sudden marsh]

and the jaded out fans still live in denial the game is fine

[stone stump]

no.

[solid patio]

Me when trying to get s rank

[solid patio]

Were you doing solo or sumn , or else you could just tell the bots to do your work , either way in my case the suspects play hide and seek with me and always win >:(

[limpid berry]

I just kept spamming F to try to hear something from a civilian but I didn't hear shit since the said civilian already had their hands up and didnt reply

[stone bay]

Much more enjoyable than rust belt

[crude prism]

rust belt certainly is an experience the first few times through until you get the map down

very organically nightmarish for clearing

[stone bay]

I mean i like the surface part I think its a cool cartel part but the cave is where my hate begins

[limpid berry]

It was like saying "Marco" near people and don't hear a single polo

[stone bay]

Pressing F is wallhacks and it's hilarious

[sick sluice]

gentlemen can someone explain to me why i can have ai do the entirety of mindjot and pass the mission but get a mission fail when i die at the last 15 seconds of caesar's dealership

[stone bay]

Instead of a mirrorgun you can just shout at walls and echolocate criminals

What is TOC

[sick sluice]

tactical operations center

[limpid berry]

It's like having a heartbeat sensor in cod

[stone bay]

Do you get anything by completing iron mode

Except the watch

[jolly verge]

apart from watches and achievement - nothing

[stone bay]

Watches?

Is there one watch or many watches for iron

[jolly verge]

one

[stone bay]

Ok

I wanna unlock all the cosmetics for this game but it is painful

[jolly verge]

you can always use unlocker mod

[stone bay]

I mean yeah but what's the point then

I want to earn them

[humble mauve]

it's like using achievement unlockers

it ain't even an achievement at that point

[stone bay]

I don't know what watch i like most

I like grandpas because the color and texture is nice but i don't like the shape of the watchface

I like polar expedition but it's too bulky and fancy

I like the strap of explorer but it appears flimsy

Hi joe

[tame swift]

what kind of bullets should i bring to sins of the father?

[misty island]

Why are there sso many voice linees in the game, that never werre used?.. I mean, VOID is working on it right now, but we already have rready voice lines...

[misty island]

AP or buckshot.

[tame swift]

ok thanks

[misty island]

With buckshot shoot limbs. Do not use slugs.

[sleek tiger]

Is the Mindjot Datacenter map hard?

[austere silo]

@sleek tiger Your entry point matters a lot I would say.. If you have a lot of flashbangs it's not hard, just take it easy

I would suggest to not enter from the roof, it's a bit awkward

[granite peak]

just got a pak checksum mismatch error when i started the game up in safe mode

also had a lobby w zombie mod in safe mode

[umbral oar]

what are you saying

[granite peak]

why am i getting modded servers in safe mode

the checksum error is when u get kicked because u don’t have same mod as host

[umbral oar]

course you can find modded lobbies its just that you have no mods which is the point of safe mode

[granite peak]

i thought ‘no mods’ applied to everyone

[opaque birch]

vro u cant toggle safe mode on other peoples computers... please learn next time 🙏

[granite peak]

i thought it was like a filter if u start w safe mode u only get paired up w other safe mode users

trash game would refund again

[opaque birch]

Refund My Game And I Will Be Mad

• john void

[umbral oar]

john void is like a cosmic deity

[opaque birch]

I Created The World. Of Ready Or Not

-john boid

[sleek tiger]

I finished it with only some deaths. On the beach house map now. Going in non lethal

[opaque birch]

dont use flashbagns use GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[sleek tiger]

One of the Ai's shot one dead RIP 🕊️

[umbral oar]

you should gas the lung cancer patient!

[opaque birch]

GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAS EVERYONE

KILL PEOPLE WITH HEALTH ISSUES IF IT MEANS YOU GET TO GAS SOMEONE

[hot moss]

Little question, what gun y'all use

[umbral oar]

mcx

[soft narwhal]

The M4 iron sights

[hot moss]

Fascinating

[opaque birch]

BAAAAAAAAAAAAASED

wish it was an actual carry handle doe devs give me my carry handle back

[soft narwhal]

I use it for fun, surprisingly the sight pictures are really clear and I can hit targets easily

[acoustic ridge]

mcx/hk416

[fiery hill]

Custom AR

[alpine laurel]

I have most luck with the AK actually.

[raven estuary]

Hey there! Where can I see the grades I achieved on each mission?

[crude prism]

Lol said the Void dev, lmao

See mission scores? What is this brutal expectation?

[raven estuary]

Seems like a fairly basic missing feature for a fully released game

Considering the fact that most of their achievements and unlockables are based on grading

[stable kernel]

The only way to see your top score on a level currently is to complete (success or failure) a level.

[raven estuary]

Yikes...

[lofty raft]

Are there any game resources? IE a whole spreadsheet about ammo damage, game mechanics and whatnot

[jolly verge]

Yeap https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1d89lpFDA9lo_v13iBlnhtuA6DvuUnKfPaeo0d4RBGJ4/edit#gid=1471879539

[lofty raft]

Thank you! 🙏

[granite peak]

nerd

[thorny apex]

I am stuck on 2nd mission, been everywhere but no prompt to end the level.

Wont let me finish but theres no one left

[raven estuary]

You haven't done some objectives. Restraining all suspects and civilians as well as securing all weapon evidence might not be enough.

Hold Tab (default key) to verify what you haven't done yet

[thorny apex]

everyone is restrained, it's either bugged or they put a super secret area in this> #🎨ron-screenshots-and-art message level

[thorny apex]

It says rescue all civs but they already are

[raven estuary]

Someone is probably on their knees but not restrained

There are also soft-objectives for this mission which I am not sure if they count towards being able to finish the mission or not

[thorny apex]

Man they should just have an option to end the level anyway, its weird and annoying

its so gamebreaking, literally everyone is dead or cuffed

[stable kernel]

Do you have order to chaos and restrain all civilians completed?

If not, not everyone is dead/cuffed

[thorny apex]

i dont know i cant see the tab screen big anymore

[stable kernel]

Hold tab

[thorny apex]

but middle one isnt done

"rescue all civilians" isnt done, but they all are

wtff

[stable kernel]

They are not, check every corner in every room, and downstairs in the foyer on the ground floor

[thorny apex]

I shot a civilian and they got shot in the back by my own team

Can you skip a mission? this one must be bugged

[stable kernel]

It is not. Tie up everyone on the ground.

[silk yoke]

Sometimes if you tell a civ to evacuate, they'll go to the level entrance but they won't get restrained. It could be that

If not, idk

[thorny apex]

how do i decrease difficulty? I keep dying on the first bad guy now

[silk yoke]

Don't believe there is a difficulty setting

[thorny apex]

why would there not be a difficulty setting? thats just stupid

[silk yoke]

My usual advice would be to walk more. Enemies hear when you run and when you open doors

Yeah idk why there's no setting

[thorny apex]

what if the game is too hard for people? what if the game is too easy for people?

gonna have to give it a bad review now as its impossible to play.

[silk yoke]

Impossible?

[thorny apex]

it's impossible for me to play they game

unless there is a mod for it?

[alpine laurel]

The mods tend to be to make the AI harder or more 'human'. Probably a skill issue mate. If you came to it from CoD or something you've gotta readjust your mentality.

[thorny apex]

I havent played a shooter game since the days of unreal tournament

well, excluding doom games i guess

[silk yoke]

It's pretty easy to get skill diffed if you're just starting out. The enemy AI are a little cracked, and they'll pre-aim you if you make too much noise. Being quiet is important, and using door jams to lock the enemies in place are both pretty important

[alpine laurel]

Oh arcade shooters. Nah this isn't anything like that. You aren't a meatwall charging in, and you aren't the main character. You're just "officer" and as much an NPC as the rest of them. I can teach a bit if I can get this shitbox to stop crashing on me already...

[silk yoke]

The "immersion" and lack of UI make this harder for new players

I remember that when I started this game, I would get pwned by like every enemy on the map

Map knowledge, careful approaches (ie pie-ing every doorway) allow you to isolate fights, and increase your odds of survival

[thorny apex]

oh theres some kinda trainer mod on nexusmods

thank god

[frail quartz]

I mean, what about the lack of UI makes it harder?

Are you just talking about crosshairs and ammo counters?

[silk yoke]

Yeah that sort of thing

Like the enemies aren't glowing red

[humble mauve]

If you shoot a few times and reload you can reload forever practically never run out of ammo

Try it for yourself, trust

[alpine laurel]

Using a trainer
Doesn't actually train, just lobotomizes enemies.
Son I am disappoint...

[silk yoke]

It's often hard to tell where you're taking fire from. Which is not a bad thing. It's a design choice, and you'll adapt to it over time

[thorny apex]

I am dissapointed at lack of difficulty settings in a 2024 game.

[alpine laurel]

You are the difficulty setting. It's only as hard as you make it. Should you choose to charge in like it's Facing Worlds, you will suffer. Choosing a slower tactical approach with forethought and skill will be the easy route.

[shy tulip]

Difficulty is tied to maps

[thorny apex]

Bruh i litereally cant make the enemies do less damage per shot and thats the issue

they have 4-5 shots in me before I can figure out where they are and by that time visual effects make it hard to see.

[alpine laurel]

Their bullets are the same as yours. You are on the same tech level as they are. The difference is skill. Figuring out where the fire comes from and how to effectively return fire, or get the drop on them first.

[thorny apex]

they shoot as soon as you come up the first stairs so you cannot get the drop on them

[alpine laurel]

If you bumble in like you're wearing filing cabinets for shoes sure.

[shy tulip]

that's a new saying I've never heard

putting that on the list though

[thorny apex]

you can't even see the guy who shoots, until he shoots

[alpine laurel]

He's not invisible. You just don't see him.

[thorny apex]

same thing

[alpine laurel]

That's on you, not the game. Use your special eyes.

[thorny apex]

Special eyes?????

[shy tulip]

Carries point is that the AI when you spawn in don't go and start taking corners to shoot you at, they're unaware until you start going loud. Use that chance to make maximum impact before the AI become aware, start getting stressed, and start getting aggressive

[thorny apex]

Yeah but they still do too much damage

[shy tulip]

Players are extremely tanky, you survive a lot more than they do.

If you walk around a corner and that suspect lights you up and kills you, it's deserved tbh

[alpine laurel]

A bullet is a chunk of copper and lead (sometimes with some steel in it!) moving at up to ~3600 FPS or sometimes more. Yeah it's gonna hurt, and yes you're more durable than they are. Even armoured enemies don't take as much damage as you do.

Don't walk into their fire like a suicidal dodo. Slice the pies, check corners, be ready to fire, never expose yourself unnecessarily.

[thorny apex]

Am i supposed to be able or meant to do anything with THIS: #🎨ron-screenshots-and-art message

[shy tulip]

I think you can throw gas in and that's Milky Toes room

Besides that I just avoid it and throw anything at him the normal way

[thorny apex]

I cant do anything with the hole

[stable kernel]

It's mainly for worldbuilding about the main suspect

[crude prism]

just climb through, ez

[thorny apex]

not possible

[shy tulip]

Thy must lay off the station donuts

But idk I would just throw gas through, it's not gonna be F to interact, just aim and throw it through

[umbral oar]

it only exists to leg people with shotguns through

[thorny apex]

Are you supposed to get through the doors with bars on them?

[shy tulip]

If you can't open the door at all then no

[alpine laurel]

If you can't interact with it, no.

[thorny apex]

ok yep 2nd mission is broken then

[shy tulip]

Streamer is on the smaller size of maps

[thorny apex]

been everywhere, still cant leave

[shy tulip]

I have a sneaking feeling it's not

[alpine laurel]

I feel like you didn't rescue/report someone or there's still a man with a gun waiting for the moment you aren't looking at him. I'm sure he won't have to wait long.

[thorny apex]

i have cleared every room, unless you have to wait for someone to spawn in, it's fricken broken

oh right right

theres a door that wont spawn in until your own teammates kill you

[alpine laurel]

Wha... Are you in some weird alternate version of RoN for the crazy?

[shy tulip]

A what that won't spawn until what

[thorny apex]

a door that wasnt there the four times i walk down the hall, but after my npc teammates kill me it is there and they walk straight up to it

can you just order the teammates to sweep the whole area?

[umbral oar]

bro got the haunted version 🔥

[alpine laurel]

Did you tell them to kill you..?

[shy tulip]

I've never heard of that happening tbh

And yes, but I think the bring order to chaos obj has to be completed first before you can order them to "Search and secure"

[frail quartz]

bro got the 2010's creepypasta version!!!

[thorny apex]

well i shot a cuffed guy

[alpine laurel]

GEE I WONDER WHY THEY SHOT YOU

Maybe it's because you straight up executed someone

[thorny apex]

npcs are shooting me thru concrete walls wtf

[shy tulip]

The SWAT AI become murder hungry if you do bad stuff like kills civs or handcuffed dudes

[thorny apex]

the few times i clear the level its bugged and every other time I get shot without a chance

[shy tulip]

It doesn't really get easier than the second level.

Make sure that you are fully clearing the ||bitcoin farrms, the moms apartment, and the main apartment.||

There is also the downstairs and middle area where civs can spawn

[alpine laurel]

Telling ya mate it's not bugged. You have to be thorough. There's 100% some civilian sitting somewhere or a suspect waiting to shoot at you.

Hah... There you're dealing with nerd thugs and a furry. Wait until you're dealing with full on foreign terrorists and disgruntled combat veterans. They are gonna eat you alive...

[sharp fox]

shoot everyone including the civs

trust me

[misty island]

"Shot with out a chance"
Lack of game knowledge, map knowledge and map controll.
Just, like the old saying "git gud".
Suspect AI atm is quite easy and forgivable.

[frail quartz]

Judging by what they're saying, they've already been doing that

[sharp fox]

dont yell for compliance either 🔥

real

[opaque birch]

read emoji name

[sharp fox]

might as well shoot your AI teammates

[opaque birch]

thats my reaction

[stone bay]

equip beanbag and don't shout for compliance

only shout for compliance for echolocation

[opaque birch]

so based

[stone bay]

if you see a suspect shoot them in the stomach with a bag of lead

[misty island]

@thorny apex ,please, videos and photos of what is broken to the #🎨ron-screenshots-and-art .

[opaque birch]

556 tends to do that i think

[sharp fox]

try and shoot everyone in the head with the beanbag shotgun it will make them surrender immediately

trust

[alpine laurel]

I do love that technique... You shout at them, they shout from the other side of the map and out themselves.

[opaque birch]

"PUT YOUR HANDS UP!"
"hey fuck you swat!"

[sharp fox]

god i love doing that

[misty island]

Nah, suspect AI is know to stick their head inside walls and by doing that seeing you through that, as there are no walls inside textures.

[stone bay]

racks beanbag with malicious intent

[sharp fox]

allows me to find the last suspect so i can execute them

[stone bay]

you have a mirrorgun in your throat

[opaque birch]

suspect ai is just better git gud

totally not cheats he just has a goated gaming chair

[stone bay]

suspect ai is ridiculous for shooting through walls

[sharp fox]

when will void allow me to beat suspects with the battering ram

[stone bay]

I can't even shoot through a couch

[sharp fox]

that would be a great feature

[stone bay]

i want rubber bullets for all guns

give me rubber bullet silenced LVAR

and let me tear ass

[sharp fox]

nah you're only getting pepperballs here

[misty island]

Suspect AI is stupid as fuc, unless they start using exploits,bugs and cheats.

[stone condor]

.

[opaque birch]

on GOD

[misty island]

.

[sharp fox]

.

[opaque birch]

.

[stone bay]

I see no god uphere except from me

[stone condor]

[sharp fox]

❌

[opaque birch]

[opaque birch]

[stone bay]

do JHP bullets have a higher stun chance than AP

[sharp fox]

i forgot
can you kill people with the breaching shotgun

[stone bay]

yes but good luck

[sharp fox]

fun

[silk yoke]

I dont think they have any sort of stun value

[stone bay]

it takes more than 1 mag dumped into the chest

[opaque birch]

if you shoot them too much or if you shoot them in the head

[sharp fox]

what about headshots

[sharp fox]

i see

[stone bay]

you won't be able to because it doesn't have sights or a laser

[silk yoke]

AP does like -66% damage to limbs. That's the big difference

[opaque birch]

what? yes it does

it has sights vro

[stone bay]

uhoh

[opaque birch]

also did you not notice the iron sights it has??

never speak again kitten... or i will punish you

[stone bay]

post proof

[sharp fox]

oh it only incapacitates them
boooo

nvm i killed him

[opaque birch]

what the fuck did you think it would do

[silk yoke]

But yeah AP has wallbangs and beats level 3 armor. JHP has more reliable ttk since it doesn't get screwed when you hit limbs, but has bad wallbangs and is bad against level 3 armor

[opaque birch]

[sharp fox]

i need a lethal breaching shotgun

[stone bay]

about the bullet stun thing, i mean that when you shoot at a guy sometimes they will flinch

[opaque birch]

thats the regular breaching shotgun headass

[sharp fox]

😭

[silk yoke]

I see that a lot with shotguns. With rifles it seems inconsistent

[stone bay]

it is inconsistent but i wander wether JHP has a higher chance because it dumps all the energy into the person

[silk yoke]

On bodyshots, idk

[stone bay]

AP can overpen and leave without fully transfering the bam

[thorny apex]

vruh what the actual f

[silk yoke]

I think jhp has higher bodyshot damage? So if stun/flinch is related to that, then maybe it does have higher stun. But honestly, I just go JHP and double tap the chest, then put in one or two more if it isn't clear whether or not the suspect is falling down

[thorny apex]

Weird bug where i got an extra police officer but then they left and the mission was finishable.... #🎨ron-screenshots-and-art message

[stone bay]

correct JHP has roughly 20% more damage to the torso tissue

[shy tulip]

Trailer units show up at the end of the round to begin to escort civilians and suspects out.

I think when you were walking around, your SWAT team found the final gun that wasn't bagged and bagged it for you, thus auto completing the mission. If you look on the top left, you could've left at any time.

When that pops up, the core objectives are done and you can leave, or if you stay you can bag everything left for more points

Trailers being irl cleanup crews basically

[opaque birch]

jhp is innefective against armor

[silk yoke]

Trailers are pretty buggy and usually don't spawn tho

So yeah it's unusual to see them

[silk yoke]

Yep

[alpine laurel]

I really like the trailers. Real nice touch.

[opaque birch]

NOT RECOMMENDED
i dont like anything about this game!

(currently in game 3k hours logged)

[crude prism]

The longer stun/pain animations are linked to the ammo type and whether you're shooting armor or flesh

No correlation to the damage of the hit

[stone bay]

bro wth i walked in a room and my ai went in and was just fine and i walked in the enemy behind the door shot me down and not my ai 😭

dawg why is sins of the father so hard

[silk yoke]

Does larger ammo = higher chance of stun?

[opaque birch]

then what is the point of running jhp

[silk yoke]

Better limb damage. I think that with AP, if you hit the chest and the arm, you won't down the guy

[crude prism]

significantly more damage against limbs and slightly more damage against unarmored torso (versus AP)

[opaque birch]

thats dumb. thats dumb and stupid i only hit one taps

this is a 556 problem im too 762 to understand

[silk yoke]

So like JHP has more reliable breakpoints, and therefore more reliable ttk

[misty island]

It is not a bug. In practice mode, extra officers will extract civilians from cleared(marked with green flare) rooms.

[crude prism]

I suggest just looking at the spreadsheet, it's not really something that can be cleanly summarized

Because it's not really intuitive and also some ammo types have weird odds that don't make sense

The "Range/Stagger" tab was added recently, clean showcase

[silk yoke]

Huh I'll check it out soon

[stone bay]

OK IM SO DONE

THIS IS THE SECOND TIME

[silk yoke]

Second time what

[stone bay]

A suspect shot another NPC

how am i supposed to get an S WHEN THEY'RE KILLING EACH OTHER

OH MY GOD

[silk yoke]

He he he haw

[stone bay]

stupid ass AI

[silk yoke]

Either you do it multiplayer, or you leave the swat at spawn

Or give them beanbags

[stone bay]

THEY ARE AT SPAWN

[silk yoke]

Oh you mean the suspects killed somebody

[stone bay]

THE SUSPECTS KILLED ANOTHER SUSPECT

i am going to lose my mind

[silk yoke]

Not much to do about that, except try to control the engagements

[crude prism]

certified suspects walking in front of eachother during a gunfight moment

[stone bay]

all of my swat team officers are steel heavy armor with pepperball guns and no bullets

i was also thinking of giving them riot shields but eh

[crude prism]

Are you doing it in commander mode or practice?

You probably want Ceramic either way

[stone bay]

commander

why would i ever pick something that isn't steel

i can tank like half a mag on the chest

how many shots does ceramic take to break

[opaque birch]

with ceramic you can tank a full mag.....

[stone bay]

what

[opaque birch]

just sayin bro.... ceramic outclasses steel in every way....

it is literally broken...

[stone bay]

it takes a mag to break ceramic?

[opaque birch]

devs forgot to code it right.... so its broken asf....

[stone bay]

I assumed it broke after 3-5 bullets

since thats how they usually work

[opaque birch]

no bro... ceramic takes a long ass time to break... unless you get dogpiled...

[stone bay]

jesus christ

[opaque birch]

ceramic is goated bro.....

[crude prism]

Void broke armor damage calculation in the Feb 6th update, suspects with rifles deal only half durability damage to ceramic.

Previously you absorbed 3 hits and took damage on the 4th, now you absorb 7 hits and take damage on the 8th (that's without buffs from Armorer)

(also that's per plate)

[opaque birch]

steel sucks because you move slow asf...

[stone bay]

oh so steel is still straight up better

[opaque birch]

no it isnt lol

[stone bay]

yeah nah

[opaque birch]

steel isnt straight up better you move like a snail

[stone bay]

moving slow is not a downside because this is a slow tactical game

[crude prism]

With Armorer + Ceramic you get up to 11 absorbed hits with no damage taken, per plate

[opaque birch]

yes it is vro... youre supposed to play like cod you little larper

[acoustic ridge]

it is to move out of danger

• its annoying to move slow

[stone bay]

no the hell i'm not

slice corner slowly and shoot first, you win

[opaque birch]

its better to peek corner fast than slowly

[stone bay]

i disrespectfully disagree

that's how you get magdumped imo

[opaque birch]

no it isnt

thats how you catch them off guard

[stone bay]

youre walking into a suspects line of fire, if he knows you're there he will magdump you

[opaque birch]

yes and if you move slow then he has a better chance at mag dumping you

[stone bay]

and you do not know exactly where they are, meaning you will take a while to aim at them

[opaque birch]

if you are peeking a corridor and you cant imagine what the corridor looks like and possible positions for suspects you have a skill issue

[stone bay]

ok we're not going to agree on this, i just do not agree that slow movement is a downside when i play the game slowly and carefully

[opaque birch]

literally first thing i learned going into depth playing cs

[acoustic ridge]

slow movement is always a downside but you can reduce its downside by playing slowly

[stone bay]

i already play slowlyt

[opaque birch]

also if you move slow you will make the same amount of noise as if you move fast so they will know either way unless you shift

[stone bay]

that point goes against you and not me

[opaque birch]

no it doesnt lol

[stone bay]

if moving fast and moving slow both alert them, don't move fast and place yourself in danger, they'll know you're there

[opaque birch]

how will moving fast place me in danger in that situation

if i peek and cant get back in cover quick enough i will die

if i peek and im fast enough to get back into cover i can survive and repeek again to prefire the spots i think the suspects are in

[stone bay]

ok let me just post a clip of me repeaking a guy 3x with steel

[opaque birch]

if you had ceramic itd only take 2 repeeks

[stone bay]

?????????????

[gloomy isle]

Time to add my 2 cents

[stone bay]

Explain that logic to me lol, each peak is one shot, how does peaking faster make you more accurate

[opaque birch]

each peek is not one shot bro

[gloomy isle]

The way suspect detection appears to work, they’ll start shooting at you the moment they see even a fraction of your model

[stone bay]

i am using a beanbag

[opaque birch]

thats your first issue willing to try to s-tier is a showing of mental illness

[stone bay]

a lot of these issues can be fixed with mods 🙂

[gloomy isle]

Depending on the distance between you, the suspect, and corner to be peaked, it may be more advantageous to slow or fast peak

[opaque birch]

get out of here mr i have so much of a skill issue i need to mod the game to play it

[gloomy isle]

If you’re far from the corner and the suspect is close, slow peak is the way to go because you’ll see parts of their body before they see you at all

[stone bay]

..? youre talking about skill issues in a PvE/solo game?

[opaque birch]

you need to STOP S TIERING LEVELS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Before they lock you in a mental hospital

[stone bay]

alright you clearly aren't discussing to change anyone's mind and you just wanna shit on others

are you ok?

[opaque birch]

im talking skill issue in a fps game

[opaque birch]

fake news!

[stone bay]

its a singleplayer fps game... if youre talking about skill issues theres an underlying problem going on with you there bud

[gloomy isle]

If you’re close to the corner and they’re far, fast peak is better because they’ll start shooting you sooner when you slow peak before you can even see them

[stone bay]

i mod the game cause its fun lol

if you slow peak you can usually shoot an arm or leg before their eyes see you

[opaque birch]

hey wait..... i can get behind this

not ai mods tho cuz thats skill issue (unless im making it harder... cuz im a masochist)

[opaque birch]

wait guys it doesnt matter how fast you are it matters how fast your reflexes are

holy shit wait

guys im onto something guys hold on

this game has a suppression mechanic so you can just start shooting as soon as youre gonna round the corner

hold on guys im onto something guys

[gloomy isle]

RIP civilians

[opaque birch]

we dont care about civillians here

[stone bay]

media for proof that steel allows you to repeak

Also, you can duck the other way by leaning opposite, which doesn't require lightweight armor

Also, you can use stance to duck out of the way, which is very fast and also doesn't require lightweight armor

[gloomy isle]

lmao

[opaque birch]

hey wait guys hey wait guys guys guys hear me out hear me out guys

if you hit them then you hit them if you didnt you suppressed the suspects and then you can repeek to finish the job

hold on guys im a genius im 2000iq ok guys hear me out

[stone bay]

comedy gold

[opaque birch]

HEAR ME OUT HEAR ME OUT OK HEAR ME OUT

you all have a skill issue im a 2 gorillion faceit elo pro

[stone bay]

by the way is beanbag shotgun inaccurate

[opaque birch]

idk

[stone bay]

after rewatching that clip that last shot should not have hit

[opaque birch]

it should act like slugs tho

[stone bay]

i shot the wall behind that guy

[opaque birch]

your first shot shouldve hit your second shot should not have hit and neither should your last shot

vro... you are getting cs2'd in ready or not

[stone bay]

what the hell is cs2d

im going to bed this is hurting me

[opaque birch]

in the first few months of cs2 there was a lot of issues with hit registration because the hitbox was coded incorrectly so anytime you feel like you shouldve hit a shot but didnt you get cs2'd

[stone bay]

and yes there are many actions that impact suspect morale, which influence their decisions. things like kicking in doors, grenades, shooting, etc.

[acoustic ridge]

does ram and breaching shotgun impact morale more than kicking?

[stone bay]

louder things impact more

[umbral oar]

free lean is the greatest thing ever

[stone bay]

how good are pepperballs btw

[acoustic ridge]

they can make a gas cloud that stays around for a bit, you need to use gas mask with it
some maps you might want nvgs instead

[stone bay]

yeah but do they work

beanbag will stop them instantly but when i use pepperballs i find it takes many seconds for them to get affected

also how many pepperballs does it take

[acoustic ridge]

it takes a few pepperballs to stun someone, not sure how many but i just shoot them 3-6 times to be sure

[opaque birch]

they kinda mid use beanbag

[stone bay]

aiming for the head with the pepperballs will usually do the trick in 1 shot

they have a 2x multiplier which is pretty high for a non lethal, plus they can spall for an AoE

[opaque birch]

if they aint wearing a mask doe you can shoot in the upper chest/neck and the pepper spreads to their head

[stone bay]

that too^

[opaque birch]

and it does the trick just as well

but i fw the beanbag more

but like really the correct option is saving your sanity and going lethal

[frail quartz]

iirc that one gasmask suspect on Lethal Obsession makes them immune to CS gas but they still react to pepperballs normally

[stone bay]

i just want the accuracy cause this is a big map

beanbags are interesting because it (afaik) is the ONLY projectile to have a force of 10,000 to the head

for reference, 5.56 JHP has a force of 4,500 to the head

[opaque birch]

based devs but like why

[stone bay]

its a very big projectile with a large surface area so it go smakk

cuz they can

shoot head wit beanie bag = night night

what is "force" by the way

[humble mauve]

like star wars

do you mean force as in like use of force?

[opaque birch]

force as in kinetic probably

[stone bay]

impact strength for ragdoll physics

Large amount = near instant ragdoll

[stone bay]

i was walking in a room with my beanbag shotty and a suspect rushed right in front of me and i shot in the head by mistake and he flew so far

bro what the hell is the pepperball launcher

Bingo lol

i dumped an entire mag on a guy over the course of 10 seconds and he runs away

im so tired

Yeah it’s not super effective lol

[opaque birch]

this is why sa58 stays on top

[stone bay]

M14 >

lvar >

idk why everything is black, there are other colors too

lvar knows this

LVAR .50 beowulf >