👮ron-discussion

[jolly verge]

slugs have big damage falloff, so it's better use buckshot

[copper cypress]

Oh~

[ebon lark]

Rule of thumb is that buckshot is for unarmored targets, slugs for armored. But it's very easily to kill people with buckshot even if they have a vest, so I think slugs are pretty redundant

[copper cypress]

But that should be limited to hits on the arms/legs or head XD

[ebon lark]

Well, you are shooting a spread of projectiles...

You can shoot people in the vests and if they don't go down from it, they'll most likely comply after the shot

[copper cypress]

Does a bean bag shotgun operate with buckshot or slug?

[ebon lark]

Technically a slug

[copper cypress]

It's so sad

[ebon lark]

It's a small bag filled with buckshot. In-game, it acts like a slug except it cannot penetrate armor or skin like a normal slug would. And obviously, the pain forces people to comply within 1-2 hits. Just don't aim at the head, because a bag filled with lead will still pulverize a skull

[copper cypress]

Does it also have less damage or stopping power due to distance?

[jolly verge]

it's always deal 5 damage

[ebon lark]

It might be. I don't remember ever shooting a suspect with a bean bag and not get a reaction from him due to the distance. I've sniped a vet across the hallways on Ides of March with no problems.

[misty island]

SWAT AI does not have any movement penalty. Also you can give them steels plates and will move fast.

[stone stump]

steel isn't the best option for swat ai because of the bullet splashing off of them

and ceramic is bugged and op since some hotfix so not much point in using steel anyway

[ebon lark]

How is ceramic bugged ?

[misty island]

Hm-m... strange. Maybe you have mods?

[jolly verge]

lmg and rifles deal only 0.57 durability damage to ceramic instead of just 1

[stone stump]

yeah, so... it's not the ceramic that's bugged, but the rifles and lmgs that deal half the durability to them (which makes ceramic twice as effective)

[misty island]

And rifles' damage is also reduced?

[ebon lark]

So it still shattered to repeated hits compared to steel. I'd still run steel on maps with a lot of suspects, especially with mods. I don't like the idea of having my body armor break completely towards the end of the level

[jolly verge]

nope, damage is reducing by max damage cap, which is 70, and then reduced by armor itself

smgs and pistols like p90 and five-seven still have same 1 durability damage, so they are more dangerous then rifles and lmgs from suspects

[stone stump]

not exactly. ceramic is still way more survivable

and ceramic still protects you even if it's broken, though you get a slight disadvantage of only 40% damage reduction (compared to 70% of steel)

[jolly verge]

steel is better if you lucky and get bleeding under 50% health, especially with armorer trait

[glacial fjord]

it is

late response but my bad i recomend an ai mod

the ai in this game is good and both ridiculous at the same time

[misty island]

I meant, rifles' damage to ceramic armour.

[misty island]

Steel has 80%, hasn't it?

[stone stump]

no

[jolly verge]

yeah, rifles and lmgs

steel is 70, with armorer it's 75%

21 > 17.5 damage taken

[ebon lark]

I am already. I can do it, I already got the hang of the big compound and the basement, I was just blowing off some steam after shelving it for today

[glacial fjord]

probably best this game can get on your nerves sometimes

[sleek tiger]

First mission ever

Shot 2 civillians and killed 1

am i doing well?

[copper cypress]

Good job!

Russian style lol

[leaden holly]

TFW you're going for an S run and you're almost done but you then accidentally shoot a civilian

An NPC that won't get down and just stay in place and I instinctively just fired... for some reason

[elfin gyro]

hey im struggling with the hospital mission. how do i get through it?

[glad python]

The main thing about hospital is to understand the map layout

[elfin gyro]

Soooooo many dooors

rip the men who had to deal with the bathrooms

[glad python]

luckily you have access to pretty good map, so you can take it slow understand where room is and where it leads

[elfin gyro]

lmfao

[glad python]

My recommendation is to go though the back emergency entrance

[elfin gyro]

But when i draw a line on the map the line goes away after i put the tablet up and back out

[glad python]

Map has 5ish sections and if you begin in the back entrance it goes :
1St floor back entrance > 3rd floor > 3rd floor across the sky bridge > second floor > first floor main entrence

what region you in ? @elfin gyro

[elfin gyro]

usa/cst?

[glad python]

well Im gonna have hell of a ping but If you want I can join in bout 4 hours

help you through it

[elfin gyro]

nah your fine. im trying to solor the game. (me and the 4 bots)

but il use the map more

i usually jsut look past it lol, and go in blind

[glad python]

Well if you change your mind @ me

[elfin gyro]

100%

[misty island]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3190461026

[elfin gyro]

W

❤️

[sleek tiger]

I was searching the bathrooms on the 1st mission right and I shot a civilian because I didn't see it and thought it was a criminal 😭

[grim hound]

Guys, do you recommend 'Ready or Not AI Improvement Remastered' by cooltrashbag123? I found that the AI in some map is die hard suspects. Maybe this mod can help?

[rose jolt]

Is this game coming to console?

[sudden marsh]

there are no actual plans yet

[mossy ridge]

Do you guys think they will ever add variable optics? Not just a canted option. Like we already have an elcan but it's only 4x and backup irons.

[rose jolt]

Oh okay thank you

[lofty vortex]

No mods

[misty island]

Then you got VOID'ed. Try again.

[sharp fox]

make it so that when im shooting at a suspect my ai teammates DONT walk into my line of fire

[lofty vortex]

Are there any other specific requirements to get the achievement?

[stone stump]

and what are you trying to do?

[lofty vortex]

The hanged man

I kid you not

[stone bay]

ello!

[lofty vortex]

I’ve completed the mission at least 10 times perfectly, bashing, tasing, and flashing people

And it just won’t pop

[stone stump]

have you used anything other than flashbangs, taser and whatever the last thing was?

[lofty vortex]

Nope, I never pull anything but my taser and flash

[stone stump]

what about the swat ai?

[lofty vortex]

They’re allowed to use guns according to every forum and YouTube vid I’ve looked up for it, so they kill everyone

[stone stump]

[lofty vortex]

Ikr

Literally nothing works and I have no idea, I got most of the other achievements done without issue of them popping

But for some reason, this one is either bugged or I’m messing up in a way that I can’t comprehend

[stone stump]

certified ron moment

[misty island]

You can not use anything, except flashbangs, taser and bash. SWAT AI can only shoot, but do not let them do more that that. Use only "Open and clear". No wedges or other equipment by you or SWAT AI. No shield in you hands. As soon as you spawn, switch to taser and only then start moving.

[misty island]

Oh

How do you throw your flashes? With G or select 3 and then throw? You can nost use "G".

@lofty vortex Read last three messages.

[lofty vortex]

Am I able to direct them to fall in, or go and clear, the default Z commands?

[lofty vortex]

G yeah

I’m not able to use G?

[misty island]

No

[misty island]

Fall in, open and clear, move in.

@lofty vortex ping me please, if that was the problem. Or if it was not.

[lofty vortex]

Sure thing, I’ll attempt it again later today

[misty island]

Do kot forget to do it in practice or command mode!

[lofty vortex]

o7

[lofty vortex]

I did it using 3, achievement didn’t pop

[misty island]

Did you use G?

[lofty vortex]

Nope

[misty island]

Then, tbo, I do not know...

Verify the game. Do you know how to?

[lofty vortex]

Yup, trying that rn

[misty island]

I mean, I do not really know. Can you possible record your walkthrough and post it in #🎨ron-screenshots-and-art ? I will review it.

[lofty vortex]

Sure thing, though I’ll do it in a bit

[sleek tiger]

Bro I can't find the last few enemies on the 3rd mission

[halcyon otter]

have you tied everyone up

even the dead ones

[sleek tiger]

I believe so yeah

Nvm i found the last suspect. It was a probably wondering around

[sleek tiger]

@halcyon otter

[halcyon otter]

cool

[sleek tiger]

Got a B rank

[halcyon otter]

nic eone

[opaque birch]

what did you miss vro ?

to get a b

[sleek tiger]

vro?

[opaque birch]

yes vro?

[sleek tiger]

What is vro?

[opaque birch]

its like bro but its cooler like yk (i have a lobotomy)

[sleek tiger]

I used "Uncessesary force" The dude pointed a gun at me even AFTER i told him to put his hands up etc. And for the other one Friendly fire that one is bullcrap

[copper cypress]

Will SWAT Ai still focus on the torso even if the suspect uses civilians as shields?

[stable kernel]

Yes, SWAT AI has no regard for hostage life

[opaque birch]

based swat ai

[copper cypress]

Well, it looks like I was right to let them get the pepper ball launcher. Just now in the fourth level, a suspect used a civilian as a shield lol

[stable kernel]

You may still get unauthorized force from them shooting the hostage with nonlethal, iirc

[copper cypress]

It is better than directly killing or incapacitating the hostage🤣

[mortal marlin]

what the hell is with canted aim, i love canted aim because of the visability but god i cannot hit my shots with it.

[frank relic]

Guys, I have a question, is it normal for a suspect to hit you with a gun (not shoot you) while you have a heavy vest and steel plates to kill you in one hit?

[frank relic]

Use a laser

[mortal marlin]

I might have too, shame to sacrafice my light though

[opaque birch]

no

[frank relic]

Bruh

[opaque birch]

what the fuck lmao

[frank relic]

I just lost my ironman save like that 💀

[mortal marlin]

It would be cool to have dual rails on weapons so i could have a laser and a flashlight

[frank relic]

Yea

Also R870 should have both a flashlight and a laser as it has a built in light and you can just add the laser

[mortal marlin]

and my damn sig sauer mod wont work so now im sad lol

[frank relic]

For me a lot of mods didn't work :/

[opaque birch]

dont use mod io

[mortal marlin]

Yeah i think the 1.0 update broke a lot of things

[opaque birch]

install manually w nexus

[frank relic]

I did

It still didn't work tho

[opaque birch]

dayum they outdated then

[mortal marlin]

Sadly the sig sauer mod isnt on nexus...

[opaque birch]

check the last updated date

[frank relic]

Maybe I am doing smth wrong....

[opaque birch]

no they oudtdaded

[mortal marlin]

It is most likely outdated tbh

a lot of stuff hasnt been updated since 1.0

and 1.0 made a lot of changes

[frank relic]

No, I mean maybe I am putting the mods to the wrong folder or smth, cause I have a one that was updated to 1.0 but it still didn't work

[opaque birch]

did you extract and put the pak in the paks folder

[frank relic]

I went to the Ready or not folder, then ReadyOrNot > Content > Paks and I put it into that folder

[opaque birch]

did you put the actual pak in or the folder the pak was in

[frank relic]

oh... I just realised..... that there is a mod folder....

[opaque birch]

no just put it in the paks folder and its fine

[frank relic]

I did and it still didn't work

[mortal marlin]

Yeah dont touch the Mod.io folder

[opaque birch]

a

[frank relic]

And it was just a file, not a pak

[opaque birch]

open the folder and the pak is in there

[frank relic]

Uhhh

[frank relic]

I downloaded it and there is a normal file.... Just a normal file without anything else

[opaque birch]

open it

is there nothing in the file lmao

[frank relic]

Wait, lemme dm you the link and you check it yourself, it just downloaded a file

[sleek tiger]

i got that when a suspect pointed a gun at me

bullcrap i tell you

[opaque birch]

he needs to shoot first for it not to be unauthorized

[sleek tiger]

bruhhhhhhhhhhhh

[stable kernel]

Not true

[ionic gale]

hey guys

[sleek tiger]

ello :3

[opaque birch]

hello vro

[ionic gale]

how are u all?

Im planning to hop on ron

[opaque birch]

im goated

[ionic gale]

my damn mic no werk ;-;

[fiery flame]

i feel like there is a glitch with my gamethat does not show the armor health, i tried this out by wearing a light vest and somehow my torso always gets hit but the armor still stays white

[jolly verge]

Which plates you have, steel?

[fiery flame]

i choose kevlar for the test so that bullets would hurt the rmor more

[jolly verge]

kevlar don't have durability, steel too

you get red torso because it's not fully reduce damage like ceramic do

[fiery flame]

alr thanks

[jolly verge]

kevlar 50% steel 70% and ceramic 100%, when ceramic is broken it's 40%

[sleek tiger]

I finally beat "The spider" alone with bots

FINALLY

I just died because I didn't see a mine and open kicked the door

[fiery flame]

armor durability still not showing

with ceramic

[jolly verge]

what do you mean it's not showing durability?

[fiery flame]

still white after it getting shot

i hear the sound for armor getting shot, but i does not change durabilty and after a while i start taking torso damage

[jolly verge]

it's will still be white, it's will disappear only when all your plates will be destroyed

take only front plate and you will see

[crude prism]

Outdated paperdoll moment

Going on about 18 months now

[fiery flame]

i use a shield as free back protection so thats why plates not destroying

[lofty vortex]

@misty island i got the achievement, i think the reason it didnt work the whole time was for a dumb reason i neglected to bring up

I and one of my ai teamtes was using a shield

i took it off and beat it and the achievement popped

[sleek tiger]

What achivement?

[misty island]

Hanged man

[lofty vortex]

really dumb of me but thank you so much for all the help,,really means a lot to me

[misty island]

The AI was using it during "open and clear"

That what was the problem

Oh, well

[woven python]

will more maps come to this game?
or is the story finished?

[sleek tiger]

Can anyoen help me finnish the mission thats after "The spider"?

ayone*

anyone*

[misty island]

https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198054876434/

[sleek tiger]

added

[misty island]

Fucj, sorry

[sleek tiger]

?

[misty island]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3190461026

That is what I wanted to send

[stone bay]

i just ran ides of march 3 officers died and i got trashed

[shy tulip]

What did you learn

[stone bay]

dont go into rooms without flashing them even if theres not a dude right there and second dont run into rooms without checking for a trap

we learn common sense daily

[turbid grove]

guys does Rizz work on Suspects (Joking)

[vale cobalt]

Traps are the biggest threat when u don't check rooms

[stone bay]

yeah i walked into a bathroom and got blown up

[vale cobalt]

Its always like "there's no way there is a trap here"

[turbid grove]

Yeah Traps are Anoying asf

[stone bay]

if rizz is "MOVE ON THE GROUND" is rizz than yeah id say so

[vale cobalt]

PUT UR HANDS UP

[shy tulip]

I remember when I was playing through Ides, every round no trap would spawn at the front door when I checked. So I assumed that they had removed it.

Then the one time I didn't check, I blew up.

[opaque birch]

We Will Add Skibidi Rizz To The Next Update

-John "Ready Or Not" Void

[sleek tiger]

I'm on Sullivan's Slope and that were the frist time i ever incounterd a mine and i didn't know hwo it looked. So i just open kicked the door and died

[turbid grove]

Infinite Brainrot

[stone bay]

ive been on this mission for like two hours like nothing aganist the game but i really want to claw my eyes out on some of these deaths

[vale cobalt]

I get so bored checking for traps some times and just die 3 times in a row

Forced learning

[stone bay]

i just kick open doors because its fun

[vale cobalt]

Fr

[turbid grove]

Bro my Legs just Break just by the Fifth Kick

[stone bay]

your legs break when you kick doors????

[turbid grove]

Yeah?

[stone bay]

thats how they keep breaking.,.

[turbid grove]

If you kick then to much

them*

[stone bay]

i keep smashing my legs and wondering why there broken

[turbid grove]

yeah Your Legs Break if you Kick to much☠️

[stone bay]

i really do have to find someone to play with though oml

[opaque birch]

Skibidi toilet rizzing up pibby in ohio then mr beast shows up with Andrew tate and sneako and they have a W gyat but then kai cenat drinks the smurf cat grimace shake and he gets fanum taxed with L rizz

[stone bay]

yeah im deleting this app

[turbid grove]

☠️ Thats so much Brainrot that my Brother would die☠️

[opaque birch]

skibidi rizzing a toilet up in ohio then i 1 2 buckle my shoe but then smurf cat shows up with the grimace shake and he rizzes my mom up with joe bartolozzi and he has a huge GYAT like hes a citizen of ohio and then andrew tate shows up and catches me respecting women and he says thats not very sigma but then sneako rizzes up kai cenat but he rizzes him up like ohio so kai cenat thinks thats not very fanum tax and drinks the grimace shake and dies

this is ron discussion because the recent ron leaks show that void is planning on adding a map placed in ohio

[stone bay]

do you like have a google doc filled with this

alr im starting a mission so

[vale cobalt]

Fluent in brain rot

[naive marten]

To my surprise, VOID actually fixed the twisted nerve crash (after months)

[turbid grove]

So True thats just some 1graders in Germany

[opaque birch]

no i browse yt shorts

[turbid grove]

thats even worse

[opaque birch]

would you even say its fanum tax?

[velvet sierra]

is there any way i can just like play for fun like in a sand box? without a campaign

[stone bay]

mods probably

[turbid grove]

yes with mods and Practice

[velvet sierra]

alr thanks

[opaque birch]

friends only server to play alone or you play practice for the experience with bots

[turbid grove]

just download the Missions Menu

[opaque birch]

a friends only server gives you access to all the missions

[turbid grove]

it will unlock all Missions

[opaque birch]

but you play alone w no bots

[velvet sierra]

also how would skin mods work now? with like so many different customisation options on vanilla

[turbid grove]

you must just click Missions Menu

[velvet sierra]

is there a specific customisation that would give u the modded skin?

[opaque birch]

weapon skin mods work fine depending on if its 1.0 updated or not

[turbid grove]

i recomend the Ballistics unlock everything

it unlocks every Vest and Shirt Etc.

[velvet sierra]

alr, btw can i add you? cause i just came back to the game after like a year and dont know how to use mods and play like i did pre 1.0

[turbid grove]

sure ig

[limpid crest]

Anybody know where the soft objectives are on carriers of the vine

[opaque birch]

look them up

[limpid crest]

i did, theres nothing that helps

[shy tulip]

There's the artroom ||on the right side of the map, if you were just leaving spawn. Raisken likes to spawn there.||

I forgor the rest

[turbid grove]

no i recomend asking a Vetaren Player (Expierienced Player who played it.)

idk tbh

I never played it

[limpid crest]

Turns out my friend found it and I didn't realize

[turbid grove]

i wished the Police Station wasnt Locked

like you dint need to do the Missions or it was Optianol through the Settings menu

bcs its cool and all but its just so Tyring doing 4 Hours of work just to get a Wing of the Station Done

[vale cobalt]

Game was more enjoyable for me when the suspects were doubled

Still playing slow but being able to shoot and kill was more army sim than police

[worthy wharf]

My god, any recommendations for valley of the dolls non lethal?
I can't get consistent results no matter which route I pick, AI is very dumb on this one and I cannot do it by myself considering the amount of angles and open space (in other words skill issue)

[brittle spoke]

thoughts on using gas .. never used it realy thinking maybe try it on ides of march

[worthy wharf]

Also didn't use it, depends on how you're playing, from what I researched it works worse on big rooms but is more consistent

[brittle spoke]

ok ... realy how i play im fine this map just aressting 3 suspects this map is a pain

just cant seem to get past mind jot iron man but this gonna be the time lol

[gloomy isle]

I’ve managed to do Valley of the Dolls S rank using gas grenades and no other grenades

[lofty vortex]

you use bean bag or pepper?

[gloomy isle]

I’ve found flashbangs to be better overall, though

Never used stingers. They might be good

[brittle spoke]

same never tried the stingers

[worthy wharf]

Ides of march wasn't a problem for me that much even for S

Try to get the middle room secure first and remember to wedge the doors
Order AI to look out for traps
And go from the last apartament (so there's only one apartament either on your left or right)

[worthy wharf]

pepper, bean bags can incap easily

[gloomy isle]

My S ranks are always me bean bag, AI all pepper plus flashbangs

[lofty vortex]

i reccomend pepper for AI but beanbag foryourself, unless you headshot them, they wont die from beanbag

[worthy wharf]

It's not about weapons and more about the best route to take so the AI understands what I'm trying to do more lol

[brittle spoke]

ok thanks krula and yea im door wedging fool

[lofty vortex]

and its an instant stun which makes it so useful

[gloomy isle]

Bean bag is better for the player for 2 reasons. 1 efficient ammo usage. Only 1-2 beanbags are enough to stun enemies. 2, it can instantly stun and STOP suspects

[brittle spoke]

plus few officers have the extended stun and surrender perks unlocked .. doing better stress wise with the team this try

[gloomy isle]

Pepper requires multiple shots and suspects often still keep stumbling away

To use enough pepper to stop them will quickly deplete your ammo reserves

[lofty vortex]

in that case, i think for my run i took the first floor through the main door, cleared out all the rooms. then went down stairs from the room across the indoor gym and sent ai in to clear the indoor stairs down to the kitchen

[gloomy isle]

Great for small suspect maps, bad for big ones

[lofty vortex]

after that the rest of the map is a peace of cake but youre gonna have to get lucky that your ment dont die at that part

[gloomy isle]

That said, the pacifist trait can make the pepper gun much more viable

[brittle spoke]

havnt tried valley of the dolls yet .. since i started and tried iron mode i been stuck paying this way lol i like the challenge yea sucks starting over but the added concept u cant die gots me right now

[worthy wharf]

by first you mean the top? or from the bottom

[gloomy isle]

During Iron man mode, some maps I would do exclusively lethal. Actually, it was rarer for me to do non-lethal

[brittle spoke]

did u complete it tho all missions

[lofty vortex]

the top, like when you first spawn the first door you see

i suppose that is the top floor lol

[gloomy isle]

I completed ironman. I have the watch

[brittle spoke]

niiiice dude

[gloomy isle]

Didn’t even risk it with paramedic

[brittle spoke]

low key i will hard quit if i lose an officer i want the watch

[gloomy isle]

The traits I went with were armorer, nutritionist, and 2 veterans

[brittle spoke]

what u meen paramedic i never tried an officer with that perk whats it even do

yea i like those perks u mentioned best

[gloomy isle]

Not sure how paramedic works, tbh. I never experimented with it

[jolly verge]

Save your dead officer and change his status to hospitalized instead of kia

[brittle spoke]

oh ok

isnt all that bad maybe next officer spot ill hire one

[jolly verge]

Default chance for officer to die after mission is 50%

[worthy wharf]

oh okay
Yeah the top isn't bad, but the AI doesn't understand that there's a gym on the left at the end, so they can get shot easily after going through the door

also they like sticking to windows and shooting someone all the way by the pool downstairs lol

the open hallway on the second floor is also hard for them as they like to stop in the middle and shoot around to everyone downstairs instead of cleaning the rooms

not to even mention they are just bugged af by the pool, when you order them to sweep the bottom floor of the house they like to go around the door that you point them to, go through another door alone
aaaaall the way through the house just to get to the door

[brittle spoke]

aspid i like ur pfp lol thats different .. is cool cause blends with discord good lol

[worthy wharf]

It's so inconsistent that I end up just Alt+F4 after failing bcs otherwise I'd have no officers left

[brittle spoke]

aight headed in on ides of march ill report back

[worthy wharf]

does it work for dead ones? I'm pretty sure it's for incap ones only

[worthy wharf]

good luck o7

[brittle spoke]

thank u sir

[lofty vortex]

for the gym and those stairs, you can honestly enter it yourself

[jolly verge]

Should work only for dead

[lofty vortex]

because they usually just spawn 1 per room in that area, take out the guy on or by the stairs first, and the one at the gym is in a very open area so you can obliterate him

[jolly verge]

1 save per paramedic in team

[worthy wharf]

true, yet the other areas are very problematic for me

[lofty vortex]

yeah thats fair, honestly i just ran it like 20 times and eventually just got lucky cause it is a rough map

[gaunt badger]

Yo

how do you kill civilians without getting demolished by ur own squad

[worthy wharf]

kill your squad faster than they can kill you B)

[jolly verge]

Play multiplayer solo lobby instead

There will be no swat ai

[gaunt badger]

oh alr

thx

[worthy wharf]

Good luck to me then lmao
I'll report from psych ward in a week or so

[vale cobalt]

Can't kill u for 2 tapping suspects

[brittle spoke]

oh quick question does it stack say have two officers with pacifier perks

[jolly verge]

Yes

But 1 is pretty much enough

[brittle spoke]

ok cool ill just keep one resting and rotate em

[jolly verge]

You can also take negotiator

[vale cobalt]

Mine never make it through how do u keep them "content"

[jolly verge]

So your have chance make suspect surrender after first yell

[brittle spoke]

im doing very well with my team this run benus i dont know how to answer that ... ive done good scores and they all leave stressed lol but this run so far nobody has gone past anxious

[vale cobalt]

1 man team anyway

Headshots after headshot

[sleek tiger]

I like how the player character doesn't have feelings but then the AI does???

[brittle spoke]

dont have a negotiator unlocked yet

[vale cobalt]

Guess it's personal? U decide if Ur in a crisis

[brittle spoke]

oh the player feelins r real ... lol i play stressed everytime lmao

[vale cobalt]

Go to therapy to allow u to play again

[worthy wharf]

you as a player do, if you kill someone you should feel ashamed!

[sleek tiger]

No I play video games for a reason you know

[brittle spoke]

tthe more beer i drink more relaxed lmao

[vale cobalt]

The suspects are either terrorists or trafficsrs no?

[worthy wharf]

lmao true

[sleek tiger]

I'm kinda sad that I can't just kick in a door whenever I want to anymore I HAVE TO CHECK FOR MINES

[brittle spoke]

i feel ya .. i run mirror now but still keep one AI with it for traps just faster to disarm that way

[worthy wharf]

yet that doesn't excuse or explain slaughtering civs... eh, it's just fun

[worthy wharf]

you have 4 teammates to do that for you
they might go flying tho

[vale cobalt]

True true haha

[sleek tiger]

I play with AI :(

I have no one to play with >:(

[brittle spoke]

ok ok i gots a misson to do .. just nervous ides of march is hard .. not much room for error

[vale cobalt]

Resort was the most difficult for me tbh

[worthy wharf]

that's what I'm saying, even better, they won't get mad!

[sleek tiger]

So I just doom em?

[sleek tiger]

I wanna see...

[vale cobalt]

Tbh worst part of ideas of march for me was just finding the 2nd outside building 😭😭

[brittle spoke]

id play with u melle but i libe in the middle of no where on sat wifi not fast enouph for online play

[sleek tiger]

I was saying that you could stream it

But as you said you can't even play multiplayer

[brittle spoke]

oh i cant is too blurry when i stream .. ive tried

most the time i go to my friend on saturday and playy online but he sick '

[sleek tiger]

Is march a map?

[worthy wharf]

there's an outside area???

[misty island]

@wanton bear
#📩feedback-reports-channel message
Proof please. I hhave never seen them do it and have a prrof.

[brittle spoke]

yea was gonna ask what outside area lol this an OG map i dont recal there ever being one'

[vale cobalt]

Na like the building

Round back

[wanton bear]

you dont realy see it but they are more aware of you when you have a laseror flashlight

they dont just panick then shoot at you they will almost instantly shoot at you

[brittle spoke]

i do miss the original modes tho i got this game right when it came out lol .. played the OG night club gosh they cleaned it up so much not piles of bodies everywhere

[sleek tiger]

I like how on the first mission they pull up to a gas station robbery with effin AK-47's, M16's and shotguns

[brittle spoke]

however i do like the dealership now better only tried em a few online not yet single player

[vale cobalt]

Was a tad unrealistic the amount of bodies wasn't it

[misty island]

#📩feedback-reports-channel message
Yeah, that guy definitely acknowledged the lasers...

[misty island]

Nah, suspect AI is not that smart. They do not react to laser and flashlight ever.

[worthy wharf]

I wouldn't say so, clubs have often too many people in them, so many that you can't even go past them

[wanton bear]

i said they are more aware of you

[brittle spoke]

still think we need a casino level .. there r casinos near LA so dont see why not

like morongo casino only 90 minutes fro LA be cool .. just dont make it an indian casino so nobody gets pissed

[worthy wharf]

devs are probably still thinking who'd be the target, there's too many crimes going on in casinos at the same time lol

[brittle spoke]

ohhh just had an idea that be cool

[sleek tiger]

You got theft there got idk assault going on over there

[worthy wharf]

I've seen a vid about a casino near a military base in Australia
that's an interesting idea for a mission

taking in some corrupt army/gov guys in the casino in the middle of nowhere

[brittle spoke]

in hollywood they have some crazy escape rooms like the size of warehouses that be neat

[worthy wharf]

lazer tag mission

[brittle spoke]

heck yea

[worthy wharf]

don't forget counting cards!!!!

[brittle spoke]

so yea mission at like a family fun center .. indoor mini golf cut through main lobby and a laser tag part on the other side

hostage situation .. gang related would tie in LA legit ... i live by LA so it would fit with this

ok got a few beers in now im ready lol

[worthy wharf]

drunk officer is a less nervous officer

[brittle spoke]

sad but true lol

ill report back thanks for the advice krula much appreciated man

[worthy wharf]

np

[copper cedar]

Chaps. Ive not played online yet (no Ron friends). Is it the same missions as story mode or different? Are they randomly generated?

[worthy wharf]

same ones, I'm pretty sure 1:1

there are some preset spawnpoints for enemies and they spawn there +/- randomly, but you can still predict that, same as solo

I think

[copper cedar]

Still some variety for me though i guess. Im at the postal sorting office mission. About 8 deep i think

[worthy wharf]

yup, no run is 100% the same and doing it with real people makes it a lot different as you can easily split

[sleek tiger]

I'd play with you but it's really late for me rn

CET timezone

[copper cedar]

Same i may be on tomorrow

[sleek tiger]

Me too

If you're on tell me when we can play

[fiery flame]

i know i did a good job as a cop when i hear some person say "run"

[worthy wharf]

wait wait hold on
to get Medal of Valor (getting all S rank) I don't have to do all in commander mode?

Thank god!

[stable kernel]

It must be done in practice or commander, since most achievements do not work in multiplayer.

[worthy wharf]

damn it

I'll never do valley of the dolls I swear

[fiery flame]

i know i do a good job when i come in with all 11 of my ammo slots and come out with no ammo left

[worthy wharf]

how

[fiery flame]

closed caskets for everyone

[worthy wharf]

wouldn't call that a good job but at least it's fun!

[fiery flame]

nobody is left out on the occasion

[fiery flame]

but doesnt F stand for fantastic?

[frail quartz]

Being cop isn't about protecting, it's about asserting your authority over the inferiors 😎

[fiery flame]

how is Judge still on the job after what i do to "Thank you, come again"

[frail quartz]

You have a lot to learn about the law enforcement system

[turbid grove]

in real words from me. KILL THEM ALL.

[frail quartz]

||(Expect imminent promotion)||

[turbid grove]

Nah Jit is Sus af ☠️

dont tell me you Killed every Civ.

[fiery flame]

"You are now an elite employee"

[fiery flame]

just me

[frail quartz]

They were reaching

[turbid grove]

Good Point

[fiery flame]

the voices where telling me to

trust

[frail quartz]

Don't pin the blame on TOC now

[turbid grove]

i just kill them for no Reason at all and then blame the Suspects so i can Execute them

[fiery flame]

TOC, im telling you he was looking at me funny

postal 2 is the name of the game

[tropic hazel]

Been having problems after stopping bleeding, my character becomes glitched and I have the heavy heartbeat like im in the bleeding state and my screen is blurry

[fiery flame]

day 1 of waiting for automatic shotgun update

[worthy wharf]

Man I wish, but I want to S rank it

[vernal bane]

Are you playing w/ AI?

[brittle spoke]

Jeez now I can play .. lol still haven't done ides of March

[fiery flame]

-Streamers mom "I need a drink"
walks toward toilet

[gaunt flame]

Is RoN coming to console when 1.1 releases or is that some time later?

[brittle spoke]

Omfg I died on ides of March .. I know better then that didn't check for a trap fml start over

So dumb 😂 my bad

[frail quartz]

HOW are you guys getting traps on ides of march!!!!

I even played it with my ai mod disabled and I still didn't encounter any

[brittle spoke]

I didn't see any at all was a bathroom was tripping out on the civi in there cause he was following the mirror and I didn't even see it

Gosh dang it 😅

Start over again .. my team was solid to but I'll take my time I deserve that one 😜

Why I'm hooked on iron mode 😅 gosh I'm so pissed at myself I'm just over doing 213 lol other maps before ides I don't care there fun 213 in just creepy

[gaunt flame]

Anyone???

[brittle spoke]

I have no idea

[humble mauve]

There’s no official word on console releases, but likely if they are to come they would be later

[brittle spoke]

Be cool cause my co worker on console and be nice to cross play

Ok I'ma calm tf down set up a new game and try again .. I'm soad at myself right now lol

Opened the door and heard that click noise and my brain went oh fuck

I even looked under the door with the mirror gosh damnit .. didn't see the trap cause I didn't look .. that's like RoN 101 bs there

[opaque birch]

just peek the door

[brittle spoke]

Wait so if u peek the door they won't go off

[opaque birch]

yes

[brittle spoke]

I'm such an idiot lol

[left onyx]

where do you buy the dlc for the game ?

[hexed granite]

day X of waiting for that shotgun trap they teased

[brittle spoke]

Also how the heck y'all arrest 3 suspects ides of March I tried flash bangs and c2 but no go they ain't surrendering

[opaque birch]

it aint out yet vro

[hexed granite]

taser or beanbag

[opaque birch]

gaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaas them

[left onyx]

okay i thought id seen someone mention dlc1 or something but i didnt see anything on the store page

[brittle spoke]

Ok I was thinking running gas that map I've never tried gas before and I be playing this since it came out

[opaque birch]

gaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaas them

[hexed granite]

its optimal because its a closed space, and gas can go through walls

[brittle spoke]

I'm gonna be more versatile this iron run

[opaque birch]

GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAS THEM

[brittle spoke]

Ok ok I'll try it .. I'll get back to the map np I got the first few maps down but I'll take my time yet cause want my team solid .. notice that's helping a good rotation and unlocking the perks

I need another beer damnit .. I'm so mad .. I die at mind jot not ides of March lol 😆

[opaque birch]

ok

[sharp fox]

maybe you should gas them

[brittle spoke]

Ima try gas first few mission as I've never tried it before

[twilit rampart]

Does anyone know good maps for this game?

I'm bored of having to replay missions over and over again

[opaque birch]

no

i dont know anything

[stone bay]

I wish this game had a server browser

[opaque birch]

ong but its p2p

[stone stump]

not really, but either way it's very much doable

[stone bay]

Don't know if anyone would agree with me, but I kinda like the original carriers of the vine more than the 1.0 version

[stone stump]

it's already a thing in "in game menu", because steam can tell what servers are running

[opaque birch]

they need to let me set my own cap for the max ping it looks for servers in

180 is deadass too low i dont find games within that

[stone bay]

Yeah, and no matter the ping I get kicked after one mission

[stone stump]

not really happening, because other players might not want to play with high ping players

[opaque birch]

thats their own skill issue

cuz im goated at 200 ping deadass

i cant tell the difference between regular 30 ping and 200 ping

[stone stump]

saying that when we're talking about ron is crazy

[opaque birch]

im just goated yk

[visual crescent]

got an s but forgot to turned on the replay 😩

devs please fix the replay tick and make it remember the last settings. too tired to enable it over and over

[mild fox]

Any of you play Roblox here just curious

[opaque birch]

get out

[sudden marsh]

no its ready or not.

[opaque birch]

get out my server vro

[mild fox]

😔😔

[sudden marsh]

mods crush his skull

[mild fox]

What’s Roblox never heard of it

I only know RON

[past warren]

Wait… this isn’t the skibidi fanclub server!??

[vapid stump]

bro...

[silk junco]

vro..

[leaden holly]

Got S rank up until ides of march now

[frail quartz]

Why do the doors break so consistently? It's like every other mission there's this one door that neither me nor my ai teammates can close and it makes controling the map and shielding ourselves extremely difficult

[stable kernel]

If its a wooden door they can be damaged and unusable. Otherwise I don't know what you are talking about.

[frail quartz]

There's these random times where a door that a suspect walks through will become unmovable unless I force my entire team to stack onto it and order them to close it once they're all in position, ordering them to close it before that just causes them to freeze in place while looking in the direction of the door

[stone stump]

doesn't look like it's a door problem

more like "thorougly tested" swat ai gets stuck

[stone bay]

Hey, im confused about many things in this game

1. Why are there no stats for anything? How am i supposed to understand how things work without being able to know anything about em
2. What is the difference between stingers and flashbangs
3. How does the armor system work exactly? Like, what's the difference between heavy armor with front and back coverage vs Light armor with from and back coverage?

also, why do i sometimes get an unathorized use of force when shooting a guy with a gun, do i need to wait for them to shoot at me or raise their gun or something?

also why the hell is an incapacitated suspect the same amount of points as a dead suspect

Shooting a guy twice because you're going to die is not the same as magdumping them

[shy tulip]

1. They're not really needed, at most I'd say you should know the caliber and mag count. RoN isn't a game where each gun is wholely unique, they're more or less the same across calibers.

2. Stingers are physical projectiles and have a pretty long range, they're pretty effective, but can also hit your team and blow open doors. Flashbangs are well, flashbangs, but they can also be blocked easier.

3. I don't remember the exacts besides slots and the options you can use. I think heavy has full coverage, while light only has front/back, unless I misremember.

4. Yes, you need to wait for them to pose a threat. You can't walk in and surprise dome a guy unless they're already aggro.

[tacit gull]

Stingers can no longer blow open doors from my experience

[shy tulip]

This must be a lie

[stone bay]

okay but on 3) i'm asking a specific thing

when picking armor you can choose front, front and back or full coverage

this is an option for light and heavy armor

[jolly verge]

Light vest can have only front-back plates, no side plates

[shy tulip]

^

[jolly verge]

heavy one can have all of them

[tacit gull]

I'm pretty sure heavy just allows for full coverage, despite the UI being broken and telling you you can have full coverage on light armor

[stone bay]

so why would you ever choose front and back with heavy armor

[vernal bane]

@stone bay https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1d89lpFDA9lo_v13iBlnhtuA6DvuUnKfPaeo0d4RBGJ4/htmlview

[stone stump]

RoE is pretty simple:

• shooting civilians is bad, unless it's a less than lethal weapon (then it's fine)
• half of the time it doesn't work, so you don't get penalized
• if suspect isn't a threat (isn't aiming the weapon at anyone, or isn't running towards someone with a bomb vest), you will get penalized, but only sometimes
• if you shoot a suspect shortly after a justified use of weapon, you won't get penalized, even if the threat is already over (it's there so you don't get accidentally penalized)
• with less than lethal weapon it's pretty much wild west unless they're already surrendered
• did i say that it doesn't work majority of the time?
• you don't need to yell before shooting

[shy tulip]

Up to you, I dunno if it impacts your acceleration or de-acceleration like when deciding plates.

[vernal bane]

It does

More plates = higher penalty

[jolly verge]

heavy with only front-back still gonna have side plates, but with kevlar

[shy tulip]

I can't imagine it's a huge impact

[stone bay]

also does heavy armor do anything for your arms

[jolly verge]

nope

[stone stump]

no

[stone bay]

I exclusively run heavy with steel and full coverage

[vernal bane]

2 vs 5 plates, 10% vs 25%

[tacit gull]

The only time you should really watch for ROE is when suspects play a very specific animation where they're "hesitating" that's basically the only thing that truly triggers it outside of blatant executions

[stone bay]

then why tf does the model show arm armor

[jolly verge]

it's just indicate that you have heavy vest

not the light one

[stone bay]

alright i suppose

[tacit gull]

The armors are purely cosmetic, you can't have plates on your arms anymore

[stone stump]

the arm pads would be kevlar anyway, so pretty useless

[stone bay]

my limbs keep getting shredded every time

[tacit gull]

And honestly there's not much point to side plates as you rarely get shot from side angles

[stone stump]

yeah, because they are in front of your chest, center mass

[stone bay]

also is there a way to get a suspect to surrender without crippling them with non lethal

[jolly verge]

side plates count as 1, so max is 3

[stone stump]

*but note that unless you're using steel and want extra mobility, it's better to have it

[tacit gull]

Also i just tested this in the shoothouse, stingers don't swing doors either closed or open

[shy tulip]

This is so sad

[tacit gull]

It seems to have been removed with 1.0

[jolly verge]

yelling a lot until the morale drop enough to surrender

[tacit gull]

^ probably not going to happen

[stone stump]

stingers are definitely more problematic and can bite your ass if not careful

[stone bay]

check media for a relevant clip

[tacit gull]

Oh yeah, you could try walking up to them

[stone stump]

or throw a flashbang under them to speed things up

[tacit gull]

as for some god forsaken reason they have a higher chance to surrender if you're closer to them

[shy tulip]

You should get into the habit of expecting suspects to surrender when you force them to, or to surrender when you first shout. I especially wouldn't expect domestic terrorists to surrender to shouts n a shot

You can however get them to surrender if you shoot their armor, I just don't think the SA58 is the gun you'd want for that.

[jolly verge]

can't really tell but yelling work only when suspect see you and will complie only when they morale is low enough

[stone bay]

i mean, really?
You get shot in the stomach and are defenseless for a few seconds, with the person who shot you still aiming at you

You don't surrender

You get shot in the stomach again, so you know the swat guy is still ready to murder you if you try something

You don't surrender again

You die

[tacit gull]

Keep in mind that if you were to attempt the armor stun tango there's a chance you're gonna eat an unauthorised use of force penalty, undoing all your hard work, since the animation states are bugged and there's a chance a suspect is surrendering while they're actually playing the stun animation

[stone bay]

This doesn't seem reasonable to me

[stone stump]

nothing is reasonable in ron

[tacit gull]

The game doesn't make much sense, it's blatantly unfinished and the design is not all there

[stone stump]

devs tried making it more attractive to cod kids i guess

[stone bay]

The only consistent ish way to make them surrender is to use non lethal on them as far as i can tell

[stone stump]

which is stupid for a game claiming to be realistic and "consulted with specialists"

[tacit gull]

Yes, either you get non lethal or you're free to tap the entire level in the head as long as they have a gun

[stone bay]

If you shoot them twice in the chest they don't surrender, you have to tase or stinger them for some reason

[tacit gull]

Or if you're suicidal you can try the taser which has a broken projectile that might pass through enemies

[stone bay]

taser has worked great for me to be honest i think it's amazing

[jolly verge]

two shots is just -0.25 morale, which might be not enough if he have too high

[stone bay]

1 slot is 6 potential arrests

and you get a second chance to hit them with each mag

[jolly verge]

if you need consistend surrender from lethal you need either take spc with 1666rpm and shoot around them or just hit enough time to drop they morale

[stone stump]

they don't even flinch most of the time, so it's pretty clear why they won't surrender

[stone bay]

oh also does armor piercing and jhp do anything

i always took AP because i didnt want to kill anyone

not that it works

[tacit gull]

JHP deals extra damage to flesh however it gets stopped by armor easily

[stone bay]

wait more shots lower morale even if they're from an smg or something?

[stone stump]

or one shot them with a beanbang, which is apparently more convincing than 762x51 to the chest

[jolly verge]

it's does, check spreadsheet that Voidspace link you, it's contain pretty much everything about game stats

[stone bay]

i want rubber bullets or something on the guns

[tacit gull]

In theory yes, but in practice it almost never matters because the target is probably gonna die before it drops to where it needs to

[stone bay]

so i can actually equip the COOL guns and not the nerf super soakers

[stone stump]

rubber bullets aren't used anymore

[vernal bane]

.

[jolly verge]

any caliber is -0.125 morale damage if you hit them

[stone bay]

does shooting next to them do anything

i shot the wall next to a crackhead 3 times with a pistol while holding up a shield and he was like "aight" and charged me

and then he died from lead poisoning

[stone stump]

it shouldn't, because it's a stupid thing to do

[stone bay]

shouting 7 times didnt work

warning shots idk

[stone stump]

as a police officer you're responsible for every round you shot

[shy tulip]

You're probably pissing them off more, because I believe gunfire makes them more stressed and makes them more likely to attack

[stone bay]

okay

[shy tulip]

Not to mention alerting the entire map

[vernal bane]

"Warning shots" only serve for incentive for them to shoot you back faster, i.e they start shooting earlier

[jolly verge]

if you hit their suppress cone around them it's deal 0.025 morale damage

[stone stump]

not to mention hitting anyone by accident who might be behind the suspect

[stone bay]

You're not a police officer in this game, you're a navy seal that goes around executing suicidal terrorists

[shy tulip]

The dog 3 houses down

[tacit gull]

The dog on gas

[stone stump]

no.

[stone bay]

pretty clearly yes

I have 2 S ranks and i'm never doing that again

[tacit gull]

Pretty much what the design (or lack thereof) of the game railroads you into, yes

[vernal bane]

I don't think an active Navy Seal would be working for the LSPD

[shy tulip]

Seems a bit below their paygrade tbh

Big pay cut

[tacit gull]

Isn't Judge like a supersoldier or something in lore?

[vernal bane]

I can see an ex-Navy Seal maybe

But definitely not an active one

[stone bay]

im joking, i meant that this is what it feels like

[stone stump]

but still you're a swat operator, even if you're fighting against suicidal suspects

which is something to keep in mind before doing two taps or "warning shoots"

or ignoring RoE

[tacit gull]

what RoE?

[stone bay]

guy has gun, bottom text

i would love to play it cautiously and save lives but i have to abandon all the cool primary weapons for beanbag shotguns or painball guns, which is not cool

Instead of clearing rooms with a tacticool smg i need to do it with a taser

[shy tulip]

You could also use the pepper, taser, or any of your deployables in addition to the rest of your kit. Stuff like the breaching weps do have morale effects, but everything has a global push n pull

[stone stump]

smgs stopped being tacticool like 20 years ago

[stone bay]

like why give me all these guns if you're not gonna let me USE THEM

[stone stump]

what? you're free to use them

[tacit gull]

(don't use the pepper it's essentially a joke tool now)

[stone bay]

not if you want an S rank or you want your officers to not have a mental breakdown

[shy tulip]

I mean you can play an entire level killing everyone, you just can't expect to "win" all of the levels or continue without dealing with your consequences (especially commander)

[daring flame]

there's nothin like the rush of huntin people down and killin em

i mean my hearts beatin, my hearts beatin

[stone stump]

both of these things are a joke and don't fit the game AT ALL

[shy tulip]

Well S is a challenge for a reason, and you can just not kill everyone or do that and replay an easier mission to recoop their sanity

[shy tulip]

(Gamers when they want a realistic game, minus the fact that police don't want to kill people most of the time)

[stone stump]

the problem is you're expected to in this game, it's inevitable

[tacit gull]

What? No shit people don't want to kill people most of the time, i don't want to kill people in the game either but you're given a choice like 1% of the time

Cheesing every corner with the taser is not fun, replaying old missions to recoup officer health is not fun nor immersive

[stone stump]

so the swat that's hired in los suenos should be mostly capable of handling killing someone (so probably ex-millitary)

[shy tulip]

You literally have every other option to take people alive, and even on certain maps you can just take a weapon like a shotgun and hit them in the armor to get them to surrender.

Was fun doing that on Brisa specifically

[stone stump]

using joke guns against suspects with automatic rifles isn't exactly responsible

using shotguns to make suspects surrender is... ehh

[stone bay]

yeah no sane person would primary a taser or beanbag shotgun against ars or aks

[tacit gull]

Except every other option there is is putting you and your team at risk because of their quirks, using a lethal weapon is the only thing that really works most of the time, as the grenades are quirky, pepper spray is worthless, the taser can pass through people and shooting people in the armor can net you the bug i discussed earlier

[stone bay]

also how is the breaching shotgun for combat

[tacit gull]

Bad

[stone bay]

how bad

[shy tulip]

Never had an issue with taser, from what I've heard it's a desync issue or something like that, but I play SP so I can't confirm.

It's a breaching shotgun, I think that kinda answers it

[stone bay]

i mean slugs are slugs

[jolly verge]

it's deal only 10 damage and 20 in the head

[vernal bane]

At most it can make a suspect surrender, but highly, highly unlikely

[shy tulip]

It's not a slug, it's more like a specific round made to blast the door and not blast anything behind it

[tacit gull]

In multiplayer it's unusable because of desync however even in singleplayer it has issues with hitreg

[shy tulip]

Yeah not gonna be able to relate to that one, the taser is probably the best LTL in the game if it wasn't for the beanbag being just a bit better due to the range on certain maps

[stone bay]

ive had occasional issues with the taser

not often though, and i thought that was just the taser not working because it warns you that "every suspect reacts differently"

[vernal bane]

Taser range crazy

[stone stump]

i can't stand the way you equip taser

[tacit gull]

That's not a thing, currently no suspect is invincible to tasers

[stone bay]

unequipping and equipping is too slow

anywaythat's about it i guess

oh another thing, why would anyone ever use smgs

[tacit gull]

#📩feedback-reports-channel message maybe not the best example since its on players but it's there

[stone stump]

also... using tasers against armed suspects is cheesing anyway

[tacit gull]

There was also someone else that posted a video of the taser just going through holes in hitboxes

[stone bay]

is it though

[tacit gull]

Yes, especially since the armor doesn't protect them from it

So you don't need to aim for limbs or head with it

[stone bay]

that's just a skill issue, my taser has depleted uranium tips

i paid extra

[tacit gull]

we need GMP to develop the window piercing taser prongs

[stone bay]

YES omg

[stone stump]

"Ready or Not is a realistic tactical first person shooter" my ass

[stone bay]

i was in this stupid situation where i was getting shot through glass while trying to not kill anyone

and i was like "huh."
Can't taser em, can't frag em, can't launcher them, because the glass is in the goddamn way

[tacit gull]

Oh yeah that's real fun

It's even more fun when the glass breaks but the hitbox blocks you anyway

[stone bay]

some glass doesn't even break

also the fact that bullets don't pierce some objects

[tacit gull]

Atleast that's understandable why it wouldn't go through

[stone stump]

bulletproof glass on gas station map fr

one way too^

[tacit gull]

Good thing you didn't play when your bullets didn't go through objects but suspect's bullets traveled through quantum entanglement every time they saw a wall

[stone bay]

a guy with a gun hiding behind a ccouch, i lit up that couch directly infront of where he was hiding with half a mag of rifle ammo and he just pops back up unfazed

[stone stump]

i would just wait until they do that cover blind fire anim

it's easy to hit them then

[stone bay]

also the stupid barrel simulation where the bullet doesn't go where you actually aim on the crosshair and it takes me like 15 bullets to headshot a guy who is pixel peaking me behind a car

[tacit gull]

"blind" fire by exposing your entire bald head when doing so

[stone stump]

what crosshair?

[stone bay]

srs

it was on the car map and he was behind like 4 cars with half of his head exposed just laying into me with gunfire

[stone stump]

skill issue ngl

[stone bay]

And i literally couldn't headshot him even though i was clicking on his head

i had to shoot like above his head

[tacit gull]

What gun?

I know some guns had misaligned sights when they first came out, i'm unsure if they fixed that

[stone bay]

the big osw gun with the box mags

[tacit gull]

Ah, then i dunno about that

[stone bay]

i like big rounds

[stone stump]

sa58 is cringe

[stone bay]

it makes a big boom, it has a cool animation, and it has a big boolet

[urban walrus]

CQB FAL

[tacit gull]

where's the sawn off FAL variant

[stone bay]

I pretty much use this, the 5.56 H&K one, and both 300 blk

[stone stump]

where's automatic AR-style shotgun

[stone bay]

i wish the smgs were more viable

[stone stump]

the worst 5.56 in the game

[tacit gull]

They're perfectly usable either way, even on high armored suspects

[stone bay]

but it has no recoil!

i like it

[tacit gull]

bro hasn't used the g36

[stone stump]

it has the highest recoil smh

[stone bay]

yeah the g36 is what i mean

[stone stump]

i assumed geckler and aoch

HK416

[tacit gull]

well i assumed the same LMAO

[stone bay]

i thought the g36 was hk

[tacit gull]

It is, but the 416 usually has HK written next to it whenever mentioned

[stone bay]

i wanna use spc but the recoil sucks and why take 30 9mm bullets if you can take 30 300 BLK bullets

[tacit gull]

funny

[stone stump]

they can't by design

[tacit gull]

when are they adding the american 180 to the game

[stone bay]

idk you could give us more mags to make up for less ammo

[tacit gull]

You know what? That's actually a really smart idea

[stone bay]

same goes for all the 1911s, who would be insane enough to take 7 bullets instead of 15 or 20 with the 57

[tacit gull]

SMGs could be used as economy guns for your loadout

[stone stump]

the slot system doesn't have much sense anyway tbh

[tacit gull]

Instead of taking 6 rifle mags you take 3 smg mag sets* and you end up with the same amount of bullets, but more room for grenades

[stone stump]

not that i'm expecting ground branch like "have as much as you can fit on your vest", but...

[tacit gull]

I would have liked the old weight/bulk system aswell but the slots is what we have rn

[stone stump]

no idea ron had weight system

[tacit gull]

aswell as the weapon points system

[tacit gull]

You can see it in the old menu prototypes

[stone bay]

the equipment economy is very bizzare in this game imo

[tacit gull]

It's just not thought out really

[stone bay]

like, why take 1 stinger when i can take a taser that can surrender 6x as many

[tacit gull]

I'm unsure if they fixed it, but you might only be able to take 1 taser

[stone bay]

i can take 2

[tacit gull]

Yeah but does it give you the extra ammo?

[stone bay]

yuh

[stone stump]

"realistic" game, but yet the equipment system had to be balanced... where logic

[tacit gull]

It's still a game, i'm fine with them balancing stuff out somehow (even though they didn't)

[stone stump]

there's no balance in this game if you can choose any gun, armor or whatnot you want

if the balance is really needed, couldn't it at least be consistent?

[tacit gull]

Nothing in the game is consistent

Like at all

[stone stump]

that too

but you either do it properly or don't bother at all, let it be

[tacit gull]

Everything is broken in its own way, balance included

[stone stump]

you can't have flashlight + visible and ir laser combo because balancing (or laziness/lack of time)

but you can wear heavy armor with full steel coverage to a simple gas station incident

with full night vision gear

[tacit gull]

Also there is a tiny sliver of an attempt made to balance the game even though it's laughable, it's still there and it just makes me wish to see it pushed all the way through and concocted into a tight gameplay experience

[stone stump]

i guess the current slot system is all we deserve

[tacit gull]

I think limiting player equipment is great, but it needs to be done with a purpose

[stone stump]

because implementing a more correct system would take a while

ground branch did it well, you have all the choice you want and you can clearly tell why you can't have more

but it takes a while to set up....

[stone bay]

im about to post something very funni is media which idk if it's known

[tacit gull]

The thing with ground branch is that unless you're LARPing you will NEVER not have enough space on your rig for anything you might ever need

[stone stump]

if you were to do that in ron it would kinda imply that heavy armor would have more space

[stone stump]

sure, at the end of the day you would still have unlimited budget

that's why i kinda expected commander mode to have some kind of budget management

[tacit gull]

And even with a machinegun i still think you can fill every slot with mags for it and still be under the bulk requirement (maybe not, but you can definetly get close to that)

[tacit gull]

Commander mode definetly needs to either get expanded or taken out and shot

[stone stump]

that would be ideal, but seeing how the current very bare bones attempt had most of its features literally not even working

im not sure if that's ever going to work

[stone bay]

check media

[stone bay]

this is possible in game

[stone stump]

mouse sensitivity seems excessively high

[stone bay]

did you see the ending

[tacit gull]

Honestly VOID do seem willing to go and redo some mechanics, so i'm still hopeful they undo the shitshow that thisn game currently is

[umbral oar]

im hosting a friend lobby but going in solo and its using judge’s voice instead of the one i chose

[tacit gull]

As long as you're solo i think it'll make you judge no matter what

[umbral oar]

swear ive had it work once

[stone stump]

you should play as the goat every chance you get

[tacit gull]

where's george m playable character though

[stone bay]

i guess it's known that you can shoot at the people on the station

i thought i discovered it

you can also nade them

[stone stump]

it's bold to assume you were the first to try to shoot anyone at the station

[stone bay]

not the first to try, but the first to realise that with the shield you could

[stone stump]

they had one job

but still chose spaghetti code

[stone bay]

the therapist probably hates my guts in this game

i've forced i think 24 officers to retire

i'm not gonna stop anytime soon

[tacit gull]

"have you tried not shooting people?"

[stone bay]

i'm defunding the police from the inside (this is not meant as political commentary i just thought it was a funny)

most of the officers you are in charge of have been in the force for like 7-11 years but leave after 2 bad missions

[tacit gull]

The unpaid actor #252 grunt police officer isn't built different like judge is

[stone bay]

anyway thank you for all the answers to the questions

[tacit gull]

No problem, they're perfectly logical questions for a game that lacks a lot of logic

[stone stump]

lacks so much logic there's no logic at all

it's all randomly generated

[copper cypress]

Is there any mod that can eliminate the hostages in the level?

[stone bay]

Bro people get so pissed off at people using mods on Public Lobbies

"Sniper or Not & Gunfighter are for losers"

W or L take ?

all i know is that ai is cringe

i wish i could use a 4x scope but 1. the sensitivity is messed up with those since it doesn't scale with the zoom

and 2. LAAAG

[knotty tree]

If i download a new map (mod) do i have to get it do i have it?

[shy tulip]

I don't understand the question

[stone bay]

Yuki_ResponseProcesses101.exe Is not working

Repeat the question please

[earnest phoenix]

you could try using https://ron.recursiveprojects.cloud/AI_Mod and set MaxCivilians to 0

[leaden holly]

If I see "Your connect to host was lost", it's because I was kicked or was the connection actually lost?

[copper cypress]

Ok, thanks

[knotty tree]

What is ironman mode`?

[sleek tiger]

i think 1 shot = death?

[misty island]

Your death = deleted save.

[misty island]

Just like Mincraft Hardocre.

[misty island]

Only if you are using SA-58.

[sleek tiger]

@misty island You down to play?

[misty island]

Nah, I am stuDYING.

[sleek tiger]

okay

hope it goes well!

[misty island]

So do I...so do I...

[sleek tiger]

@main imp

we can talk here

[main imp]

I'm form Singapore

[sleek tiger]

Sweden here

[main imp]

ah nice

there's folks in EU 10 I may try it with them.

[sleek tiger]

well uhm.....

What mission your on?

[main imp]

idk

um I did one random coop with a friend thats it

[stone bay]

I'm tryna get all the achievements, how tf do you get the "the devil" one

nvm

[woven flume]

Quick question, how do i switch around the agents in my roster?

[stone bay]

like, wdym, like to change their loadouts?

or do you mean in the tablet thing

@woven flume

[woven flume]

Tablet

I know how to change the loadouts

Where you can see their stress levels and perks n stuff

[stone bay]

click on one of the 4 guys in the top row, the click the guy you want to change him with on the bottom row

[woven flume]

OHHH

thanks

[stone bay]

yw

[copper cypress]

Will using a suppressor make it less likely to alert suspects who are further away?

For example, the sound effect range is reduced from the entire map to half the map.

What I've heard is that it's easier to distinguish enemies or teammates with a suppressor @@

[leaden holly]

I feel like sound in this game is kind of inconsistent, I could be walking loudly as I approach a door with four AIs with thundering footsteps and I use mirror gun, and the enemy NPC inside is just chilling

[woven flume]

the npcs are kinda dumb

i have like 2 overhaul mods tho so they dont shoot me through walls anymore

[sleek tiger]

You think?

[jolly verge]

nothing to do with range, suppressors only reduce stress gain for suspects by 50% (from 0.1 to 0.05 stress per shot on 20m distance)

[copper cypress]

Oh~

[stone bay]

what's stress

[sharp fox]

stress is stress

its a real pain in the ass in commander mode

[stone bay]

oh that type of stress

wait no he said "stress gain by suspects"

[stark pendant]

im trying to get the golden watch

if an officer resigns does it count as a loss of an officer?

i hope not..

[jolly verge]

yes it does

[sleek tiger]

i think so

[stark pendant]

bro

[sleek tiger]

I hate how often they resign

like bro it ain't that deep

[stark pendant]

HE ONLY JUST GOT TO CRISIS AND RESIGNED

HE WASNT AT CRISIS BEFORE I STARTED THE MISSION

I WAS ALREADY BY ENDS OF THE EARTH BRO

MAN

dont fucking tell me i have to restart all over again

[sleek tiger]

i think you have to

idk though

[stark pendant]

i hate this

this is plain unfair

[tacit gull]

Whenever you make any noise on the level suspects are more likely to attack you, that's all that suspect stress is

[stone bay]

so gunshots, grenades flashbangs

[sleek tiger]

flashbangs are so good

[stone bay]

are they?

i always use stingers because they work in more situations and need less precision

[turbid grove]

CS gas is better

way more effective

only problem is they need to long

[sleek tiger]

"They need to long"?

[long elbow]

are you able to skip missions?? i cant do the neon tomb cause theres just 10 guys in one room camping

[gaunt turtle]

nah, can't man

[long elbow]

dam

[gaunt turtle]

OKAY I REALLY FUCKING HATE THE FACT THAT THE TEAMMATE AI WILL PULL OUT THEIR UNLOADED PISTOLS
im trying to S rank Valley of the Dolls and they keep pulling out their unloaded 5.7s instead of using their TPLs

[cold island]

Zamn I’m downloading the game rn, heard the AI in commander mode was wonky from a video months ago, is it still like that?

[gaunt turtle]

it's getting good, but im just having the problem with them pulling their unloaded pistols. they're a little dumb but can still save you.

[sleek tiger]

When your done want to play?

[gaunt turtle]

WELL MY S RANK WAS GOING GOOD UNTIL I GOT STUCK IN A GODDAMN WALL

dones with this game for a weeeeek

[misty island]

Yes for the watch, no for the achievement.

[misty island]

Better luck and management next time.

[misty island]

Do not rely on SWAT AI on S runs, unless you are doing it Commander mode with pacifist trait.

[gaunt turtle]

thank you so much for letting me know. i got an A so i still unlocked a lotta stuff so im happy about that but will do.

[misty island]

Use SWAT mainly for carrying extra grenades and wedges.

[gaunt turtle]

👍

[opaque birch]

ngl do not rely on swat ai at all. mfs be dumb asf 😭

[gaunt turtle]

copy that

[gaunt turtle]

"breach the door"
"move across the map? ight bet"

[opaque birch]

"stack up"
"stay in my position for the rest of the mission? you got it"

[misty island]

They are pretty good, if you give them SA-58.

[opaque birch]

sa58 will turn a dogshit player into one tap machine in seconds

sa58 the s tierest of s tier guns

[raven schooner]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ZV8rtuJc8w&t=534s

spoilers for the evidence, but holy shit that last one made my head explode

[thin chasm]

this specifically has been driving me insane oh my god

i have to spam a command because otherwise they’ll just either ignore it or fuck off for whatever reason

[thorn summit]

shotguns for AI yes or no?

[shy tulip]

AI shoot boom gun
Boom gun make suspect arm evaporate

[turbid grove]

yeah they need to long to activate Normaly one of my Team Mates just gets killed cause of this

guys where is the M### Storage in the 3rd Mission and the M### Labs`?

[thorn summit]

whats the best gun for ai's when trying to get the iced out watch

or should they vary

[turbid grove]

i just eqiup my Squad with Assault Rifles. They are defidintly the Best

(with Mods)

[thorn summit]

[turbid grove]

wdym?

for Your Squad or Suspects?

[thorn summit]

my ai squad

[opaque birch]

which one

if its not the sa58 youre wrong

[thorn summit]

[turbid grove]

ARN 18,MK 18,MCX and some other gun that i forgot the name

[turbid grove]

I never tried the SA58 i think

[opaque birch]

arn18 is based but no sa58 you are wrong

[thorn summit]

but the sa58 can kill a man in 1 shot

[turbid grove]

How is it?

[opaque birch]

no it incaps in one shot

it purely depends where you hit

[turbid grove]

Damm

im surely Eqiuping one of my Squad mates with this Thx!

[thorn summit]

does it not have a high chance of making them bleed out?

[turbid grove]

Who cares if they Bleed out their Fault should not have been Criminals.

[opaque birch]

suspects dont bleed out bro

[turbid grove]

I just did Elephant and killed every Suspect...

[opaque birch]

where the fuck did you get that from

[thorn summit]

i made it up

[jolly verge]

only on hitting arms/legs

[opaque birch]

[jolly verge]

and only above elbow/knee

[frail quartz]

It does, but on maps where suspects have a health multiplier like gas station and ides of march, it becomes a regular two-shot again

[thorn summit]

is mp7 good? its what i normally run and just mag dump civilians out of pure spite

[opaque birch]

mp7 is GARBAGE use the sa58 only

sa58 is good and cool it is based

[frail quartz]

With full auto, yes, it's decent, just not very ammo/life conservative.