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[native rune]

As well as peeking and Pieing

[frail quartz]

Does it make sense that my ai teammates can close doors without going infront of the doorway? No. Is it useful as hell? Fuck yes!

[native rune]

Honestly just slap in some “what was that chief?” Lines and call the teammates horrible listening ability a feature

[frail quartz]

"I hear you commander, I'm just choosing to ignore you."

[daring flame]

https://tenor.com/view/copium-cat-gif-27161395

[bright valley]

officer trait: congenital hearing loss

[native rune]

Officer trait: stubborn smart-ass

Has to be told what to do multiple times

[bright valley]

lol, i'm imaging the VO for stubborn smart-ass
"Open, Bang, and Clear"
"I've got a better idea!" [runs elsewhere]

[inland wolf]

this fucking mexican just barrel stuffed my swat ai

and instant killed him

[inland wolf]

already in game, part of every officer

[frail quartz]

"Search the room for contracts."
"How about you get off your ass and do it yourself?"

[frail quartz]

The Mexican cartel is not a force to be trifled with

[native rune]

Officer trait Main character syndrome

[bright valley]

"Move!"
"Make me."

[inland wolf]

my Ai had a shield...

[frail quartz]

I said what I said

[inland wolf]

the moment that fuck surrendered i shot him in the head

you dont take one of my officers down and just get to live

[native rune]

Trait schizophrenic: Thinks any random acorn falling is gunfire and will respond with counter fire

[inland wolf]

at an already detained suspect

[bright valley]

[native rune]

Will also take damage from nothing

Evidence planter: will place guns on the floor randomly, providing free score

[frail quartz]

Evidence planter: Instantly negates any penalty for unauthorized use of force

[bright valley]

bahaha, gave orders to engage a stubborn civ with melee, then the civ started fleeing due to hearing gunshots and prescott just chased them down

[native rune]

You can’t escape the ass whooping

[tawny scroll]

🫵🏽 TOC HE FETCHIN THIS FOOS SOUL

[foggy zinc]

what

[magic blade]

can you plz make a resatart button to commander mode. i get it that its more demanding. but i see no reason why i need to wait for loading. get back to the station and reload the same mission again and again

[shut cliff]

It will be included in the $40 DLC
(joke.)

[crystal sierra]

Pretty much because of the officer stress system, there is a chance of some of them being dead, or maybe all forced to go to therapy / resigned

[molten finch]

Its stab proof not bulletproof

Also for those of you trying to get "way out west" bring no equipment for yourself and remove them from your ai, give them mirror guns, carry a shield but dont bring it out and you can use your ai they just cant throw equipment or us equipment at all, took me too long that i almost got sick of hearing big iron

[crystal sierra]

Pretty much, that's only mission where Ai is literary working perfectly tbh, their movement and room clearing in tunnels is flawless

[molten finch]

def not as bad as other places, but running through the tunnels dick out (metaphorically) with nothing but a magnum with big iron playing is such a vibe

[crystal sierra]

Was speaking in general, running with magnum... uh, still didn't do that achivement xD

[molten finch]

Its a tough one, i tried it several times before i realized that my ai using shields was what was killing it

i typically have 1 of each team with shield and one of each team with ram

[crystal sierra]

On my first initial run on 1.0 was running 1 with shield and others with weapons, for S runs, 2 beanbegs + 2 papperguns, pretty much got S on my first try on that mission, currently stuck on relapse xD

[molten finch]

i donthate hospital as much as i do post office

i hate post office

LOATHE even

[umbral sundial]

This ^

[inland wolf]

post office isnt that bad once you get the plan down

[molten finch]

i have a decent plan but fighting in that warehouse section blows chunks (as its supposed to)

[crystal sierra]

For S run, needed like i think it was 2 runs to finish it pretty much, clear store first, put wedge on both doors, clear small house with kitchen next + wedge that single door leading to main production area, go inside, clear rest of the rooms until you get to 2 doors leading to main area, wedge that, and go to the left ( outside towards courtyard ), clear from there, enter inside facility from last entrance outside, that's pretty much it.

[inland wolf]

this crackhead just ignored 5 pepperballs to his face

[molten finch]

you save facility for last? thats crazy. imagine doing all that to just get clapped in the hardest section of the map

[inland wolf]

hardest is FISA office

theres 6 angles to get shot from

[crystal sierra]

I can't agree with that, i know facility layout well, where their spots are and where they can go to hide, outside is big open area, hard to crowd control, especially with AI.

[molten finch]

youre buggin lmao, i send the AI to do FISA office and ive only had them fail me once by shooting a civvie

[bright valley]

The postal service exterior would probably play a little better if the map had a few more thresholds defined.

[crystal sierra]

General stuff what i hate about AI is the general lack of let's say map knowlage overall, i had situation on relapse today where i jammed duble door leading to main corridor, but entered into that same corridor from other door, regardless of it being wedged, they will still go to that door to clear, instant dead cuz they looked into dead end while suspect was on other side, even monitoring under the door doesn't help overall.

[molten finch]

how do i get due process? i just hit 2 suspects and a civilian with a c2 charge ( front Voll) and for some reason i cant ge the achiev

[molten finch]

or backing into an open, uncleared room while staring me dead in the eyes when im basiaclly screaming at them " dont do that! what the fuck are you doing?!"

[crystal sierra]

I learned the hard way not to let them explore warehouse on port hokaan alone unforunently xD no matter what, they will always die if i let them explore alone xD

[molten finch]

ive never really had a problem with the AI dying half as much as i do

[crystal sierra]

Totally opposite for me, i'm always alive while AI is dying like crazy.

On most stupid stuff, like, today on relapse as well, i placed them to C2 and Gas the room, during the process of deploying C2, suspect legit opened the door and one shoted 2 of them, like, no time to react overall.

[molten finch]

you problably know how to use them better than i do

thier mostly useless for me

[crystal sierra]

Was standing there, looking at them dead for like a minute.

[inland wolf]

relapse ai are on super mega crack

[crystal sierra]

Tell me about that, clearing from Main entrance every time, so morgue is first, i'm always like both legs and arms injured before i even get to the second floor.

[molten finch]

Why tf cant i get Due process

why are some of these achievments confusingly hard

ive got the hard ones but wtf

[crystal sierra]

It's bugged for me as well, you are not alone no worries xD

[bright valley]

In some ways I kinda temper my expectations for the AI SWAT because CQB is a pretty challenging puzzle to code a robust AI for.

[molten finch]

Ive hit a suspect 3 times in a fuckign row, when i report him it says "report DOA" then hell sit up

gonna see if i cant cheese it with a hostage like someone said to try

gonna arrest one suspect, restrain them and put them on the inside of a door

[crystal sierra]

It hurts to say, but SDIF defo did better job with AI overall xD Can't wait for them to add AI teammates as well.

[bright valley]

I've definitely noticed a few tactical blunders they consistently make.

[molten finch]

I also hate hwo when we spawn in the AI teammates will say "youre ion my way, need you to move, need you to slide over, ive def tk'd them for doing that a few times when they dont stfu

[crystal sierra]

Most dumb stuff from AI teammates i saw is tbh peeking when door is open, like, i stack them up only, but first one in row will peek the open door and die instantly, like wtf, wait for me to give command.

[normal trout]

seems like you got anger issues

[inland wolf]

imagine you are towards the end of a very long mission,

and then one of your stupid fucking AI walk in backwards to an area full of suspects

and dies

something so easily preventable

[normal trout]

that’s not what i was replying to but ok

[crystal sierra]

Here is something to try, go to container area in port hokkaan, room with laptops, and tell them to clear next room, aka open containter door 🤣

[molten finch]

that sounds like a trat

[crystal sierra]

That room with laptops is bugged overall. for some reason they can't open and clear overall. tried every possible option, C2, RAM, Kick... nothing works, they will just get stuck there and scream to you to move even if you are miles away from them. On my last play on port, i legit was left only 1 room to clear, that was the one, since they couldn't pass, i cleared it myself, imagine what, suspect behind civilian, both dead, completed mission like that, was too pissed to restart.

[molten finch]

https://prnt.sc/QiFutikCGqUP well see if this wors

[inland wolf]

im doing twisted nerve S rank rn

[molten finch]

works

[inland wolf]

there is a methed up lady who is refusing to surrender right now

[molten finch]

https://prnt.sc/Ys_z-b6tvwlv hes immune

[crystal sierra]

I think that the you can't pretty much force that achivement like that, like, they must be in combat ready mode, close to the door.

[molten finch]

hmmm

[crystal sierra]

Pretty much easy map for S tbh, Ai is reacing as it supposed to react, weak opponents overall, i'm dealing with 500 round mag terminators on relapse rn, they can't run out of ammo, and constantly running and gunning.

[inland wolf]

she refused to surrender so i shot her in the fucking leg

she took 10+ beanbags, 50 pepperballs

and like 20 bashes

as well as a flashbang

[molten finch]

WE GOT IT BOYZZ

1 achiev left

[serene inlet]

dont tell me ron isnt based in los santos

[inland wolf]

southern california

[serene inlet]

i mean the cops say lspd, the city looks like ls and its crazy

go to media and youll know what i mean

[inland wolf]

its fucking los angeles

[crystal sierra]

Papperball gun is pretty much weaker option in comparison to beanbeg tbh, when i'm using it, they either don't want to surrender overall, unless you shoot them in the leg with pappergun, yeah, strange but works somehow, but, there is a problem with pappergun as well, S runs especially, let's say you have 2 suspects next to each other, you managed to force 1 to surrender, and started shooting second one, you will get unautorized force penalty for gassing suspect who already surrendered, not the case with beanbag tho.

[inland wolf]

shotgun is inaccurate asf

i love full auto dumping pepperballs into an oblivious suspect

[crystal sierra]

I was saying that today, but some emoticon guy is saying that i'm crazy, he even showed evidence of guns with laser being innacurate, tho, he was right about that one, but still, Beanbag is innacurate af.

[crude prism]

skill issue x2

[molten finch]

Which los Santos is also based off of

Any tips for the hanged man?

[crystal sierra]

And here you go, he reckognized himself xDDDD

[crude prism]

its not actually, the ron gun sway is just toxic af

[inland wolf]

and thats why its inaccurate

[crude prism]

no that's why YOU'RE inaccurate, the gun is perfectly accurate

[crystal sierra]

Innacuarcy on the side, my general issue is the problem with overall weapon model, it's generally bigger then gun itself, i'm miles away from any kind of cover, but my char will anyways pull gun up

[inland wolf]

multiple times i have shot at range

[shadow ether]

Anyone tried an NVG run yet? Is it viable at all?

[inland wolf]

the height over bore is negative sometimes

and you want to tell me its not inaccurate

[crude prism]

what?

[molten finch]

The guns are much more accurate than you are in any case at any level. Even irl, the problem is never gun, SOMETIMES bullets but never gun

[crystal sierra]

Pretty much NVG is only useful at port hookan, nowhere else

[molten finch]

I use nvgs all the time wdym

[molten finch]

Twisted nerve, rust belt

Some parts of hospital

[shadow ether]

I feel like NVG is mostly useful for stealth, and stealth doesn't mesh well with POLICE HANDS UP and unauthorized use of deadly force when you shoot first

[inland wolf]

ive tried to snipe suspects in the head at range

[crystal sierra]

Might be just my monitor overall, 27 inch, IPS monitor so... xD

[inland wolf]

i have to aim DOWN to hit their head

[crude prism]

the beanbag is one of like 4 weapons in the game that fire projectiles instead of hitscan lul

and they're slow + drop

[molten finch]

Because it’s not zerod for that range

[inland wolf]

and the suspect was standing still

[molten finch]

Duh

They’re not expecting you to try and be a sniper with it, it’s probably sighted for 30m while your going to 50+

[inland wolf]

why even bother zeroing them

this is cqc

[molten finch]

Dog you’re str8 up missing the point

EXACTLY, they’re sighted for cqc

Exactly my point, so when you try to touch shit at long range it’s not properly sighted for that target so you have to adjust your shit

[crystal sierra]

From all guns, in the game, i found only, that broken gun consistent tbh. No other gun gives my good accuarcy overall.

[inland wolf]

every other gun ive used has some kind of height over bore

its pretty stupid if you dont tell us what the sights are zeroed at

not once has it shot higher than i aimed

[shadow ether]

That entire talk really gives me a reminder why I love my G3 from sniper or not

[molten finch]

Dawg. So does the scope, now THAT part we can agree on. But it’s still not the games fault you’re attempting shit that the scopes weren’t made for, you wanna be a sniper, get sniper or not

[inland wolf]

it was a red dot...

[molten finch]

you weren’t even using a 4x and you wanna complain about how “it’s not sighted for long range” there’s not even magnification

User error bro

[crystal sierra]

I really just want to get a system where will game suspects who are breathing but down reckognize as an alive ones, aka count to S rank, i'm usually trying to keep them alive like that but, running full non-lethal setup on mission like relapse is pain in ass

[molten finch]

And a lot of it for that matter

[inland wolf]

buddy

do you have S rank on every mission

almost all if not all of them done with VKS

[shadow ether]

I know right? Sure I shot that dude in the lung but he'll be fiiiiine, in a month he can start talking on his crime buddies

[molten finch]

I have 14/15 achiev missing only hanged man, so yea ive put in the work pal

youre over here talking about shit that doesnt matter though

[inland wolf]

user error

[molten finch]

the red dots arent made for long range

theyre sighted in for 20 AT BEST

if you want long range equip the right shit

[inland wolf]

my vks was perfectly able to hit people in the face at those ranges

greased palms outdoor

pretty damn sure i can hit my shots buddy

[molten finch]

dont complain about equipment, it works fine, your brain brokey though

[crystal sierra]

Just wait until you get to the Brisa Cove 😄

[molten finch]

good lord

[crude prism]

assuming the sights in ron are sighted at all

[inland wolf]

i never stated that

[molten finch]

they are id bet my left nut

[crude prism]

✂️

[shadow ether]

Then again I had a lot of A ranks going lethal and dropping them suspects, and S rank is intended to be a pain in the ass you can't and shouldn't pull off as a standard

[molten finch]

regardless im done having a dumbass argument with someone who doesnt comprehend things

im gonna go finish 100%ing the game

[inland wolf]

or maybe

[molten finch]

Tata

[inland wolf]

you are stating misinformation

and assuming my ability without ever seeing me play

[shadow ether]

Did they piss in your morning cereal or what

[inland wolf]

everyone is so quick to point out "skill issue"

when the odds are 9/10 i will outperform you

[vale tangle]

what was the argument?

[inland wolf]

i said beanbag shotgun is inaccurate

[vale tangle]

it has falloff at distance but all you have to do is aim up to counter the effect

[molten finch]

complainign about "height over bore" trying to long shot with a normal red dopt that wasnt made to long shot and having to "aim below his target (head) to hit his shots" which is how thats suppsoed to be

[vale tangle]

i used it in all 18 of my s runs and never had an inaccuracy issue besides that

[inland wolf]

engagement <10 meter with shotgun

aimed directly over center mass

[shadow ether]

I thought the bullet drops with distance, not rises

[inland wolf]

no hit!

[inland wolf]

i was trying to blast a suspect in the head with it outdoors at range

[shadow ether]

Bad idea no matter how you look at it

[molten finch]

its such a long distance though that youll enver see the sightlines that long in the game

[inland wolf]

the greased palms truck lot in question :

[molten finch]

Also this was about the fucking beanbag shotgun i ahd no fucking clue i thought you were talking about rifles

that funny

[vale tangle]

greased palms truck lot never gave me issues in my s runs

[inland wolf]

no its still about bb shot

[shadow ether]

So a CQB shotgun is zeroed for a distance not encountered in the game?

[vale tangle]

only the inside

[inland wolf]

MMMM just said that sights arent zeroed

[molten finch]

refer to my previous statement

[shadow ether]

I can get it why a bullet would go under your aiming line, you're aiming basically in parallel

Why would it go over your aiming line?

[crude prism]

The sights/lasers are aimed "true straight" if it makes sense.

You can shoot at like 200m away and you'll never cross the optic with the bullet

[inland wolf]

zeroed

at zero

[crude prism]

in my head this is the much better solution too lol

imagine the game just auto zeroing your shit depending on optic or something

[shadow ether]

Also trying to beanbag anyone at range in the head is a bad idea
Not only beanbags are inaccurate at that range, if you insist on striking the target in the head with it, it's better to pull your sidearm and put a few rounds center mass

[inland wolf]

and indeed thats what i do now

[shadow ether]

The PD gave me an entire sidearm so I'm gonna use the entire sidearm

Gonna be mag dumping like I heard an acorn

[shadow ether]

Also what is your reasoning for trying to smash their skull in with a remote truncheon? Wouldn't it be more effective to aim for their balls?

[inland wolf]

my teammate died

it is tradition for me to john wick everything once an S rank goes wrong

[shadow ether]

Understandable
Still more rewarding to hit them in the nuts

[bright valley]

used the beanbag to destroy the beanbag

[shadow ether]

That'll make them spill the beans in the precinct

[inland wolf]

where do a group of women on a farm get access to g36s

[shadow ether]

A gun store

[inland wolf]

they arent legal

[vale tangle]

the real question is where did they learn to shoot pump actions so fast

[shadow ether]

Not in this state maybe

[inland wolf]

its commiefornia

[shadow ether]

They had an USIA agent in charge and a lot of free time

[vale tangle]

i don’t think competition shooting practise is standard usia training

[shadow ether]

That implies a standard at all

[brittle tiger]

the ready or not universe is a alternate universe where Heckler and Koch aren't massive assholes to the civilian market

simply put

[shadow ether]

I mean in RoN universe Calico is apparently widespread

[brittle tiger]

and M/45s are still commonspread

[frail quartz]

Los Suenos has a stockpile of G36s since its canonically the lowest recoil rifle in existence

[brittle tiger]

irl the M/45 and Uzis kinda disappeared after the 80s

[frail quartz]

Along with the F90

Nobody likes bullpups except the LSPD though

[brittle tiger]

give Tavors and L85s

[shadow ether]

There's only one bullpup rifle in their stock and that was it

[jaunty jacinth]

does anyone know a guide or video to finding the best graphics settings. my settings used to be fine before the update but now my fps is a lot worse

[shadow ether]

Why no famas

[inland wolf]

FUCKING CHERNESSYA SUSPECTS BRO

[brittle tiger]

we might as well go ham with the guns and ignore the fact that we're supposed to be a "underfunded police department" but somehow owns multiple HK guns like MP7s and 416s and G36s and able to hand out GPNVGs

[frail quartz]

I'd rather us not add Tavors atleast until later for a very particular reason

[inland wolf]

i just got shat on by a suspect

[bright valley]

There's a strange recording at the top of the tower in Carriers of the Vine of a 911 call, I can't remember the specifics.

[inland wolf]

hopefully my AI complete the mission

so i dont have to redo the S rank

[brittle tiger]

Or like how we get 40mm M320s instead of a cheaper option like 37mm Gas Guns

[inland wolf]

we should have m32a1 fr

[brittle tiger]

is the LSPD really underfunded or we spent 80% of the department budget on getting guns and gear

[inland wolf]

quality over quantity, except the quality isnt really that good either...

[brittle tiger]

fr HK be falling off

[shadow ether]

That's where all the money went
And my headcanon for NVGs being there is FISA forgetting where they put them and D platoon not telling them they found them

[inland wolf]

i meant the quality of officers

not the most intelligent beings

[brittle tiger]

My headcanon is that all of D Platoon are former US Army E-4s

and they nicked the GPNVGs and various other stuff off places like other PDs and National Guard armories

[inland wolf]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1199925501532315768/1199964920402419743/GEpx0rlXQAAeYS9.png?ex=65e024eb&is=65cdafeb&hm=72d2acfb791d43103a7cc44906c8199a4505ca4fbabd3c6fec0e1db4e618913b&

[shadow ether]

That implies other PDs, I think D platoon is the only swat in the entire city

[brittle tiger]

well lets just say judge and the gang once ""tactically acquired"" some GPNVGs and HKs off the LAPD or somewhere

cuz fnnuy

[bright valley]

Right, so the caller is a gun store owner reporting a fight in his shop, though the suspects took off in a pickup with the license plate G15661.

[inland wolf]

isnt there one right by spawn

my AI are just clearing random areas now

[shadow ether]

I always thought he's one of your guys

[inland wolf]

instead of arresting the last suspect which they already got to surrender

HES C2ING THE FUCKING BATHROOM DOOR

"finna blow up a bathroom"

[bright valley]

los suenos based department

[shadow ether]

What the fuck for

[inland wolf]

its AI

bruh they are stuck in an infinite loop now

#🎨ron-screenshots-and-art message

they biffed the last suspect of my S rank

[bright valley]

It appears not. Just a crashed police cruiser and a van parked in the garage.

[inland wolf]

let me take a look

you are right

[bright valley]

Oh duh, the briefing opens up with a report of a group of women assaulting a man in a gun store. That's definitely the call.

Kinda feel like I should be able to find the truck then but I haven't.

Very weird since I remember VOID making a big stink about their tech for displaying unique license plates on vehicles.

[crystal sierra]

Ok wtf, i just found dead suspect on relapse, none of my bots have a lethal weapon wtf

[shadow ether]

The truck might be out on other business

[bright valley]

True

[shadow ether]

Friendly fire or the tryhard EWOd out of having to fight you

[serene inlet]

MY LUCK IS SO BAD, I TRIED TO SAY FALL IN BUT I DIDNT REALIZE IT SAID KILL ME OH MY GOD.

[shadow ether]

How is "kill me" a valid command lmao

[serene inlet]

IDEK

i pressed z and i realized it said kill me and my own teamates shot and killed mne

WHO REQUESTS TO BE KILLED

uuuuggghhhh

[shadow ether]

"Yes sir, I unloaded into my squad commander because that was his order"

[inland wolf]

blud executed a civ

[inland wolf]

"Do me a favor" is one of the voice lines

[bright valley]

yeah if you have that command as an option you've already screwed up

[inland wolf]

probably Judge recognizing that he fucked up and its a miscarriage of justice

i just got spooked

[shadow ether]

So he's about to set his teammate up for getting booted off the force too?

[serene inlet]

i got shot a few times so i healed then i tried to get my officers to clear and shoot them for me but they killed me instead

[inland wolf]

"Heroic officer shoots rogue commander"

[serene inlet]

LMAOOO'

[inland wolf]

im glad as long as your right leg is intact you can still kick doors

[shadow ether]

Lol
Judge be like "I'm dead after this anyway, let my boi get a medal out of it at least"

[junior depot]

I could use some help in #🔧modding-chat if anyone is free - just trying to get a G.I. Mini Reflex sight to work. Says it replaces t2

[crystal sierra]

Ofc, cuz 1 suspect was magically dead i got A+ ...

[bright valley]

while the "kill me" command is definitely more of an easter egg than anything, the AI SWAT killing you for blatantly executing friendlies or surrenderers is definitely just a logical extrapolation of a "what-if"

[serene inlet]

is there a way to add a flashlight attachment or turn up brightness cause i cant see shit

[inland wolf]

yes

[crystal sierra]

There is mod on nexus called Gunfighter, try it, there is flashlight mod there as well some more useful stuff

[serene inlet]

THANK GOD

[bright valley]

it's unprecedented in reality for an officer to just lose his mind mid-mission and go on a shooting spree, but if that were to occur, etc.

[serene inlet]

TTSM BRO 🙏🏽🙏🏽

[ruby portal]

i ned tips for beating port

[shadow ether]

MP7 and AP rounds
A lot of them

[crystal sierra]

Go from the right corner of the map, to the left, clear warehouse last.

[ruby portal]

thank you both i been using pepper gun for my team and myself

[inland wolf]

you are insane

if you want to S rank port to beat it

[ruby portal]

i wanted a s

[inland wolf]

unless your goal was to S rank in the first place

uhhh

my loadout consists of half bb shotgun half vks

[ruby portal]

i dont think the s matters i just want to move on

[shadow ether]

Pepper gun is no fun
The game gives you all of these wonderful lethal weapons for a reason

[inland wolf]

ONG!!!!!!!!!!!!

[ruby portal]

i have used them all

[junior depot]

Is port the Post office or no?

[crystal sierra]

In general, when you start mission, and arrest first suspect, you will have 2 ways that leads to front of some cabin, there will be path to the left leading for split way, instead of going towards split, clear that cabin, and go to the nort east of the door, you will see long containter path there, go there, then go right, you will see path forward towards far right corner of the map, clear that office there, then continue clearing outside area until you get to the warehouse, wedge both doors, then go to the tower building, enter into warehouse from there ( after clearing tower ), clear warehouse last, and 1 very important tip: DON'T let your AI teammates explore warehouse by themself, be there with them all the time. You can run shield on one of AIs as well.

[ruby portal]

no

[shadow ether]

No, the port is in the port

[junior depot]

How many missions past Post Office?

[inland wolf]

like 9

[shadow ether]

All of them

[ruby portal]

should i have gas or no

also thank u for the tip i been letting them go into the ware house by their self

[junior depot]

That's quite a few - thought I was close to the finish line but there is lots of game left. I died on Ironman in the school during Elephant

[shadow ether]

A couple of them yeah
The rest goes to MP7 ammo

[ruby portal]

alr thank u all i shall now try to beat this for the 7th time

[shadow ether]

Singleplayer RoN is such a different experience I swear

I am usually playing RoN with my mates, so when I tried twisted nerve in single player I almost had a meltdown from having to babysit the squad

[inland wolf]

i lead by example

and use my AI for cleanup crew really

[crystal sierra]

It's pretty boring if you ask me overall as an expirience, i want random maps overall, i mean, furniture layout and stuff, like door blocked by furniture etc. atm i know where every NPC will spawn so i can react more quickly overall, bomb on relapse for example, always on same place. Game is stale, Look SDIF for example, always diffirent map, fun expirience in general

[shadow ether]

Lmao the real trailers were in the game after all

[inland wolf]

no like

they pick up evidence, do arresting,

they're also my breachers but i do most of the shooting

[shadow ether]

Yeah so basically what trailers should be doing

[ruby portal]

should i run heavy armor?

[shadow ether]

Light with ceramic plates is enough

[crystal sierra]

Light ceramic armor, use either front and back or full one, but nothing else,

[ruby portal]

alr

[molten finch]

https://prnt.sc/4wSx-FcwOcPh feels good man

the grind can finally end for a little while

[inland wolf]

for a long while* (this game will never be updated)

[molten finch]

x

[junior depot]

Nice job mate - I assume that's all S ranks. What other achievements were exceptionally hard?

[molten finch]

surprisingly Way out west was actually kinda hard, main problem was figuring out why i wasnt getting it the first few completions

[inland wolf]

hanged man is the worst

[molten finch]

AI cannot use any equipment either btw so give them mirrorguns

[inland wolf]

give them battering rams

[molten finch]

i first tried hanged man just now it was my last one, it was ez tbh easier than way out west

[inland wolf]

they cant use those at ALL

[molten finch]

no, they cannot use anything esle

[inland wolf]

what was your loadout

[molten finch]

22 flashes and 3 tasers

[junior depot]

Way out west is 100% .357 Magnum yeah?

[inland wolf]

how about for your team

[molten finch]

yessir

[inland wolf]

and what about issuing commands

i saw a lot of information about Hanged man

[molten finch]

sa58 some rounds, nvg and like 10 flash and a few tasers

[inland wolf]

i did it bare bones 😭

[molten finch]

no wedges no c2 no shield no ram

got it first try once i learned that for those achiev you cant let the ai use anything other than guns

also Due process was harder than i anticipated

[inland wolf]

lol so you didnt ask them to bang

[molten finch]

oh i did on haged man because flashes werre allowed to be used

we had 60 flashes bvetween the 5 of us

used proably 20 tbh

they just cant use shields and if you ask ai to clear a room while they have access to shields theyll use it and fuck the run

so give them mirrorguns bc they wont use them unless asked

medal of valor was ez enough to grab

the fool is ez if you know it

[inland wolf]

i wouldve finished this game a week ago but S ranks in multi dont count for achievements

[molten finch]

nothing in multi counts for achiev only cosmetics

ironman was a fun challenge though

the watch was absolutely worth

[inland wolf]

immaculate drip

[inland wolf]

i had to use this : #🎨ron-screenshots-and-art message

[molten finch]

i used all sa58

[inland wolf]

achievement criteria really needs to be specified

[molten finch]

agreed

way out west was confusing until i ran it 5 times

bc i did way out west first i knew how to first try hanged man

[inland wolf]

my friend did it and told me some simple instructions :

no AI long tac, you only use 357

i think they also need 357

[molten finch]

no AI tac at all, they dont need 357s at all, no equipment thrown or used wedges and c2 included, you bring magnum, and literally nothing but bullets

they can bring rifles, handguns, bullets and thats it

you can order them to clear sections without throwables and they can kill some/all and youll get the achiev

so long as they only use guns and nothing else, you can use NVG and armor but i didnt use gunfighter nvgs bc its on the loadout and i didnt want to risk it so i took off my cool gas mask for nvgs for the run

[junior depot]

Do you see the watch in-game, such as when your high-ready or utilizing utility?

[molten finch]

yea you can see it almost 100% of the time (i DO wear hawaain)

[inland wolf]

if you dont wear hawaiian shirt you are a goober

[vocal agate]

you see the watch when using long rifles (shotguns, long ARs, sometimes the shorter ones with the c-clamp wannabe grip)

I just don't like the shader on these watches

they glow in the dark

i really like grandfather's watch

[molten finch]

i worked hard for my ice itd BETTER glow

[vocal agate]

they seemed familiar for some reason, but only after a while i realized it's the same watch American soldiers used in WW2

hence the name

[inland wolf]

i fucking hate these stupid secret service agents

both his head and gun are in a completely different direction

yet he still fires dead at me

[ivory kiln]

relatable

[shadow ether]

With that many diamonds all over it it's about to shine lol

[wheat burrow]

if you have mods can you not unlock anything?

[lethal sparrow]

What pisses me off is that I can get 100+ FPS in one big room and get 30 in a small one.

Its so goofy. Is there a fix?

[foggy zinc]

I don't think there's any problem tied between those two incidents. Might just be a case of FPS stuttering

[lethal sparrow]

I mean my pc can run the game very good

so idk

[gusty temple]

dx11 or dx12?

[inland wolf]

any of you guys subscribed to MilkyToes on OpenHouse

[frail quartz]

Question: what's OpenHouse

[serene inlet]

IN MISSION 3 THERES A WHOLE UNDERGROUND TUNNEL SYSTEM

[frail quartz]

DIG DIG DIG DIG DIG DIG DIG DIG FOLLOW THE INSECT FOLLOW THE INSECT FOLLOW THE INSECT

[serene inlet]

LMAO

so thats why i was struggling w finishing the mission

OH MY FUCKING GOD I HATE MY HARD DRIVE

FOR CONTEXT I HAVE READY OR NOT INSTALLED ON A EXTERNAL HARD DRIVE AND IT JUST DISCONNECTED FOR NO REASON

[serene inlet]

which one? ( #🎨ron-screenshots-and-art )

[dim cairn]

TOC to entry team, can you get me a subway footlong on the way back?

[umbral oar]

do slugs trigger dismemberment

[inland wolf]

if der boolet bigenuf

[molten finch]

lmao

[inland wolf]

entry team to TOC, what do you want on it?

[dim cairn]

TOC to entry team, just fill it with as much ketchup as they allow you to, nothing else.

[inland wolf]

entry team to TOC, what bread?

[gusty temple]

TOC to entry team, brioche or i send it back

[umbral oar]

some deaths looking mad cartoony

[fiery hill]

I just realized the ridgeline map is based on ruby ridge

[bright valley]

entry team to TOC, they're asking if you want it toasted

[upbeat wadi]

im 93% sure lethal obsession was a real op too, cant remember what exactly it's based on though

[woeful horizon]

Blow the train up
Outcome train go boom

[upbeat wadi]

TOC, this is entry team, act on own reconnaisance, proceed with caution

[viscid yarrow]

whats the "meta" primary?

like stat-for-stat whats the best gun

[upbeat wadi]

there's a few very detailed guides on steam, but the short answer you can pick whatever and it'll work out just fine

guns are honestly mostly there for playing around purposes, you dont get massively more or less effective when you change from one gun to another

it's just a cool new toy

[viscid yarrow]

oh alr thx

[bright valley]

The answer can vary a little depending on the armor levels you're going against, but basically any AR in 5.56 or .300 is fine for like the whole game.

Damage per shot is only dependent on what ammo the gun uses, and there are way more guns than ammo types in RoN.

[upbeat wadi]

yeah the only kinda sorta major difference is when they wear armor

for that, pack a rifle, everything else is pretty weak against armor. otherwise, ive been running the mp7 and mp9 since ides of march and it's fine for all missions so far. in fact, you even get more of a chance of getting an arrest instead of a kill with those (they're weaker so you never get one hit kills, and wounded bad guys are usually more cooperative)

oh also your teammates usually kinda negate any gun quirks your weapon may have by prrrrt prrrt kablamming your target as soon a you get maybe one shot off

i only ever really have to fire a gun myself when a bad guy shows up from somewhere none of them are looking at, so it's my sector

[unkempt mountain]

AK and the ARN 18 for ARS
Most powerful while being the shortest
SA58 for straight damage

MP7 and P90 are the king of the smgs
Shotguns (excluding bean bag and pump, they're all lowkey the same)

[bright valley]

SA-58 is situationally good since it can one-shot on some missions, but on the missions where it can't, you'd be better off taking something with a 30 round mag and less recoil.

[modern birch]

what is difference between "practice" and "training"? Not even https://ready-or-not.fandom.com mentions it

[viscid yarrow]

alr thx

[bright valley]

Training is the "here's how to move, here's how to order your bots around" tutorial, Practice is basically the core game without the extra commander mode mechanics tacked on.

[upbeat wadi]

and by the way commander is just the game plus a mechanic that becomes VERY annoying at about the halfway point. i started my game in commander cause i thought it was the single player campaign (and practice was just where you could play the missions you've done already), well yeah dont

xcom this game is not

not even this is the police to be honest

[viscid yarrow]

wait commander isnt the normal campaign

[modern birch]

thanks

[modern birch]

what do you mean?

[unkempt mountain]

xcom is a real time strategy, where each character can have a lot more gameplay uniqueness
ready or not is a tactical shooter, there arent that many stats you can manipulate to make each character feel special

[vestal mauve]

XCOM
real time

[upbeat wadi]

there's a very rudimentary mechanic where your officers "level up" (meaning they unlock their pre-assigned special skill, and they dont change much in my experience), and between missions their morale goes up or down depending on how the mission went (if you kill all suspects it goes down even if it was all justified, if you arrest them it goes up, if you lose an officer it goes down, etc.)

well that last bit is really not very well balanced as of this moment, so when you start getting missions with 20 no-gooders armed with no-joke assault weapons hidden inside the very open and complex layouts of the maps, and that naturally usually involves a lot of justified killings (i mean they SHOOT at YOU, what else are you gonna do sing kumbaya and denounce violence), your whole team gets a morale hit. and you send the really wigged out ones to therapy, hire new cops, and juggle them so that you always have four on hand. if you cant pull that off, you launch one of the easy peasy first missions, non lethal it so no one dies and everyone gets a morale boost, and repeat this until you got a proper squad

in essence it's just practice mode with extra steps, which are there because you get punished for... following ROE? choosing lethal weapons in a game that offers non lethal as an option clearly meant for S rank runs, challenge playthroughs and the like? unclear

so at this stage of development, commander is added tedium in exchange for no satisfaction

[mental fable]

Guys, when one of teammates is shot dead in the career mode, is it like real life when we linger for too long the office will die due to blood loss ?

[viscid yarrow]

what

if a teammate dies in a mission they gone

like forever

sorry it took a day for a reply lmao

[upbeat wadi]

does that actually happen? ive only had them get incapped

[viscid yarrow]

yes they can die

[brittle tiger]

you got a cop with paramedic ability

[viscid yarrow]

straight up just gone

[upbeat wadi]

wow
guess they're tough sons of guns then, hasnt happened once yet (out of like 12 officers down total)

[upbeat wadi]

OH
that'd explain it yeah, thank you

[brittle tiger]

paramedic cops can just send the teamate you were with just to the hospital and not the cemetery

[inland wolf]

brung order to chaos with LDL on greased palms

[upbeat wadi]

yeah

[inland wolf]

i think this one suspect is unreported

[upbeat wadi]

they're still gone for i think 3 missions though

[inland wolf]

and hes glitched inside the wall

omg i got it

[viscid yarrow]

yay

[inland wolf]

whoever designed the mexican gang members

made them incredibly annoying

like they just need to be SHOT

[inland wolf]

im a single mission away from game completion*

wish me luck

[civic idol]

Can we still get the supporter edition

[inland wolf]

no

[civic idol]

Rip

[vale tangle]

I heard some people got it through steam keys or something

[civic idol]

Oof

[kind zinc]

can you adjust the zoom on scopes

[modern birch]

in which mission?

[lost inlet]

Nope

[kind zinc]

whats the point of the 12x then"

[upbeat wadi]

yeah, that big one at the bottom of the list
but dont ask me which button does it, i cant remember for the life of me (something in the general area of O, L, etc.)

[inland wolf]

greased palms

but just their voices and what they say

infuriates me in every way

[kind zinc]

i dont see a control for it in the settings

[tacit gull]

You can press P to change to backup sights on the ELCAN, no adjustable zoom

[mental fable]

They shot and fall to the ground but during the mission debrief, they were incapacitated instead of saying 'killed in line of duty"

[upbeat wadi]

yeah, and even in the mission it'll say "report officer dead" or something if you aim at him to report it (and DEAD next to his name in the bottom right list)

ready or not is not quite there when it comes to quality of life right now, a year from now i think we'll have much less such shit

[inland wolf]

The Hand really likes to commit homicide

woohoo i completed the game

Hermit went from 0.1 to 0.2%

[junior depot]

Greased Palms doesn't seem to have an optimal clearing route

Any advice?

[inland wolf]

i have one that barely works that was developed with a friend

my advice is do FISA last

[true panther]

the center mail sorting area is the most complex and difficult to clear, whatever you can do to sort of corrall that area off and work your way around the perimeter will help pull some suspects out of that area and into places where it is easier to engage them.

[junior depot]

I work around the perimeter but then get killed either in the open warehouse or in the smaller warehouse section with the catwalk above

What gun and sight should I use?

[inland wolf]

lethal?

[junior depot]

Yeah - funner that way

[inland wolf]

G36 and a low optic like SRO or RMR

with JHPs

they dont wear any armor

just be careful of FISA

[junior depot]

Excellent tip

[inland wolf]

you will take them down in 2 hits

[stone bay]

Use lethal weapons but shoot for the pelvis. It incapacitates the suspect so we'll.

Ignore my username.

[inland wolf]

say bye bye to your genitals

[stone bay]

Well feel around your pelvis, that area is very sensitive. Now try getting shot there.

[inland wolf]

makes srnse

[stone bay]

Avoid running with pistols, even if you think you'll win. The suspect AI still has many issues and running with rifles is your best option, incapacitate or kill the suspect as fast as possible. Use the flashbangs, stingers, and wedges.

[hardy plinth]

Is there a "best sidearm" in this game?

They all feel very similar besides mag size and the only one that really feels unique is the magnum

[junior depot]

Try the M45A1 with compensator and SRO dot. Also the USP45 is alot of fun imo

[hardy plinth]

What makes these good?

Is it the stopping power? Accuracy?

[junior depot]

It's the fun aspect - don't worry too much about stats. But yeah, the two I mentioned have good stopping power. The five-seven has a large ammo capacity

[stone bay]

German Firearms are usually the best.

[hardy plinth]

Also why compensator instead of suppressor?

[stone bay]

Consider the FiveSeven, it's a very good sidearm if you want a reliable alternative to a rifle.

[hardy plinth]

How should I use my pistol with the shield?

Should I just wait every time the red dot lines up with the target or do I spam fire

[junior depot]

I would do some testing

[vestal mauve]

are suppressors still bugged WRT recoil?

[junior depot]

The revolver 1 shots most if not all enemies

[hardy plinth]

Even with AP?

I feel like I've had it happen so often an enemy just tanks a bullet or two without care

And I'm only at mission Greased Palms so I haven't encountered many armored enemies

[stone bay]

Use (IR) Laser depending on if you're doing a Night Vision run.

[hardy plinth]

What's the benefit of IR laser?

[earnest phoenix]

enemies cant see it

[stone bay]

A suspect cannot see an IR Laser when it is dark, giving you a stealth benefit. IR Lasers are also easier to be seen by Night Vision Goggles, which gives you a better advantage.

[earnest phoenix]

but im not even sure they react to it?? they play a voiceline when they see a flashlight or a laser but idk if they actually do anything about it

[vale tangle]

does that even have an in game effect? I didn't even think stealth is a thing in game besides using suppressors to reduce stress gain

[hardy plinth]

I thought enemies already couldn't see lasers

[stone bay]

I believe the voiceline you're referring to is the one about the flashlight and regular laser, In my personal experience, I have never encountered a Suspect AI reacting to an IR Laser.

[crude prism]

they don't, supposedly they 'see' flashlights, but in every test I've ever ran, they only make audio calls like "flashlight!" and then continue to ignore you 100%

[stone bay]

I hope these suspect AI's get fixed soon, I can't have them keep shooting my character in his head like this and having to restart the mission.

I want to play the game and have fun.

[shy tulip]

Considering how the AI aim and their accuracy has overall been hurt, I don't think they can take much more nerfing

[willow kraken]

Nah their aim is much better, I'm almost never getting instakilled

[crude prism]

AI is literally the easiest they have ever been

[shy tulip]

^

I remember EA launch, there was no armor system and the only anims suspects had was gun up and gun down. The glory

[willow kraken]

The problem is they prefer combat over self preservation. They need to run away, hide, and take hostages more often

[stone bay]

The suspect AI still needs a ton of work.

[willow kraken]

Ofc this depends on the suspects, the Hand and the Left Behind should still be suicidal

[crude prism]

Agreed, but if you're struggling a lot, YOU need a ton of work

[stone bay]

I'm not here to take insults. I'm very experienced at the game.

[crude prism]

fair enough, hopefully the suspects get the love the SWAT AI did for a year

[stone bay]

I play single-player, I don't like to go back to Head Quarters to restart everytime I die. SWAT Ai is normally used as meat-shields but I actually like to do stuff and that puts me at more risk.

[crude prism]

RoN is 100% best when you've got a good balance of controlling the bots + doing stuff yourself

[stone bay]

Do you put no music in combat?

[shy tulip]

Only Zacks music, as the Gods intended

[stone bay]

I got some great music to recommend, if it was insturmental it'd be way better.

[stone bay]

I mean, I put no music in combat. Only for menu, credits, intro and maybe some diegetic music in some missions (like club music in a nightclub)

Its a lot more atmospheric I think.

[inland wolf]

how do i trigger the combat music

it goes unreasonably hard

[stone bay]

In single-player, the AI's are absolutely terrible and actually need a slight buff. I incapacitated 3 of them and didn't get shot once.

[plucky sage]

"TOC this is entry team, requesting the war drums"

[inland wolf]

ong

i do 80% of the work in singleplayer

[stone bay]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nB5IJ5_nxkc

[stone bay]

So do you have the swat team at the back while you do everything then?

[inland wolf]

they carry some equipment and cleanup after me

[plucky sage]

Overpaid floor moppers

[inland wolf]

but will step in if i find the situation too difficult (ie. 3+ suspects aggrod)

[stone bay]

For me, squadmates are always at my back, but I do take down most suspects.

[inland wolf]

oh for lethal i let them do shit

[stone bay]

[inland wolf]

they dont die nearly as often with lethals

[stone bay]

Helps a lot when you're restraining people, and you have your squadmates cover you.

[inland wolf]

so i let them have fun

[hardy plinth]

Yeah I also have this issue with all AI pretty much reacting the same way

The most unique enemy we have is a literal crackhead

[timber radish]

So I am trying to do the achievement. Do I lose an officer if I fire him or does "losing" an officer only stand for their death?

[shy tulip]

They cannot be fired, die, or leave

from my understanding

[timber radish]

well then, boutta keep on grinding ends of the earth on LTL solo.

[bright valley]

I think it's difficult to place where exactly the ideal balance is with this sort of thing, from a design perspective.

A lot of SWAT team tactics rely on each unit being able to do their jobs without a bunch of micromanagement.

[timber radish]

Swat 4 did it better with individual control of each element from a distance just by watching their cameras which RON lacks

[tacit gull]

Yeah i dont understand why they implemented tablet cam but did nothing with it

[inland wolf]

the roles switch around every time i issue commands

this person throws, this person opens the door

then it all gets thrown out the fucking window

[junior depot]

Valley of the Dolls is my least favorite... what's the best route?

[inland wolf]

avoid living room

[shadow ether]

The main hall downstairs is always a massive killzone, gas it relentlessly and be prepared to shoot like five guys

In fact, a CS throw downstairs mostly buys you time to dart across the bridge and you will still need to shoot everyone in that room

[thorny warren]

is there no difference between the two night vision goggles in the game?

[junior depot]

Is there a speed or acceleration difference between front/back ceramic light Armour vs full?

[thorny warren]

i think that only affects equipment slots but im unsure

[urban walrus]

Just visual

[thorny warren]

oh sorry i thought you were talking about light/heavy armor, but yeah what you said affects agility but not top speed

[thorny warren]

as i thought, well, i guess i'll pick whatever one looks cooler

[jolly verge]

Only amount of plates matter. Each ceramic plate have 5% acceleration penalty, each steel plate 23%

[stone stump]

ceramic has no acceleration penalty tho?

[jolly verge]

It's does have penalty

But too small to notice

[stone stump]

yeah, should've checked that beforehand. i'm pretty sure though it's been 0% for a long time, at least in mmmm's spreadsheet

[jolly verge]

That data from game files, but for some reason only ceramic has no accel modifier like steel/kevlar, still it's change you accel value when you equip it

[bold sky]

the spreadsheet has ceramic armor penalty lol

[shy dagger]

is anyone else not able to create new replays after the recent update? or is it just me?

i can only see replays from before the update

[tacit gull]

You have to enable replays every time you start the game now in the options i think

[shy dagger]

oh, i see

ill try that

oh yea, i think the new update turned off the option. thanks for the help

[hardy plinth]

Is there a possibility for any changes to the police station?

I know right now it's one of the least concerning things about the game

[stone bay]

What scores do you normally get?

[hardy plinth]

but it's just such a slog to get through

[neat wagon]

Damn no one's in the vc??

[loud tinsel]

Is it just me or are the grenades useless (atm), whatever I do it only rarely affects the suspects.

[tacit gull]

They already had a regular menu in the alpha that they got rid of for the police station

[hardy plinth]

I just wish they did it like Vermintide

You have the lobby to walk around to get to the menus, but you can also just open them up anywhere with the hotkey

[bitter mason]

Wow how generous, im sure the <@&925148041126760529> would love to see that!

Oh dam he aint in the server anymore

[tacit gull]

Of course the mods would punish someone with such a kind heart, how awful 😔

[near schooner]

what happend

i wasnt paying attention

[tacit gull]

Lets just say cartman was pulling another one of his schemes

[prime mural]

Idk gas is still op as ever

[loud tinsel]

Agreed, gas by far is very good but even gas sometimes seems to fail. In some cases suspects do not even care that the entire room is filled with gas.

I hope they fix it in the next hotfix because I rather stick with bangs than with gas (except for S runs)

[prime mural]

I've had ppl right outside it's range shoot me thru smoke but most the time, if they're inside they're incapped till they walk out away from me or surrender walking towards me

Id personally say they're more consistent than flashes

[loud tinsel]

Yeah I had that happen to me too but yesterday on Sins of the Father, I gassed a room while a suspect was on the right side of the room and when my ai team breached the room he stood there with his gun raised, not reacting to the gas

it also happend on Valley of the Dolls when I played with a friend

[prime mural]

Was the grenade in range? It's possible they cough, walk away from it, then shoot

But when they're coughing, shouldn't be shooting

[loud tinsel]

yeah it was almost right infront of his feet and he wasn´t coughing

just stood there menacingly with his gun ready to kill

[prime mural]

Hm weird

[loud tinsel]

It´s strange but only happens sometimes when using cs but when I am using bangs and stingers, I unfortunatly encounter 80% of the time that it didn´t cause them to be stunned.

despite being in range to be stunned

[junior depot]

What's everyone's favorite level and gun?

[foggy zinc]

Level is probably Relapse or Port; I can't decide on a favourite gun, it has to be a modded one, but if i had to pick one thing that i could never swap off it'd prbly be the LVAR/LVAW cuz its OP af

[earnest phoenix]

neon tomb and elephant (when modded for the active shooters to actually be active ) and guns are all the same anyway

[muted star]

What mod does that?

[fiery flame]

what would be the dumbest song to play while playing this game

[deft forum]

Can someone tell me why my gunfighter mod isnt working. I have it installed and put it in my paks folder, but i load up the game and there is nothing from the gunfighter mod when im playing.

I got the mod from Nexus

[dreamy garden]

jellyfish jam on nightclub

its on nexus

https://www.nexusmods.com/readyornot/mods/3285?tab=description

[south smelt]

I know this might not be the channel for it but does anyone know some Ron groups that take younger ppl who are mature and have experience ?

[foggy zinc]

i'd say don't worry about that sort of stuff lol, if you know you're mature then don't be afraid to join literally any group

as for experience; if you mean ingame hours it's obviously good to be proficient in this game (i.e. good shot placement, adequate loadouts, movement, callouts/comms, etc.)

[south smelt]

Yeah I mean I was in a group before but It died of and then I took a break so I’m a bit rusty in the game

[verbal idol]

Ok so I don’t know if this is the proper channel for the multiplayer but like…there’s been this guy that’s literally been mic spamming for two weeks and hasn’t left the MP server he just sits there

[south smelt]

And I’m so hesitant bc most groups say 18 or 16+

[foggy zinc]

as long as you're mature and don't do wacky stuff like friendly fire, blocking/trapping teammates in fatal funnels, running and gunning (excessively), you'll be fine

[shadow ether]

I feel like you would have a better experience if you look for a group based on your playstyle, I know groups that take their time and play really methodically, and a squad I'm in prefers to play it by ear, basically improvising and taking huge risks

[verbal idol]

Improvise strategize and execute

[south smelt]

I like both but most unit promos don’t really say much about the playstyle so I’ve been struggling even finding a group to even try

[shadow ether]

I have to add we are playing with Sniper or Not and we all have a bit of a tendency to act wacky, there's usually no reason to grab three M249s but we did it for twisted nerve anyway

Got an F but what a good F it was

[south smelt]

Sounds similar to the old group I was in before

[shadow ether]

To be fair it is an old group I'm in, we've been playing stuff since SEF 7

[south smelt]

Yeah my group was also pretty early in game basically it established 2or 3 days after the beta/early access’s droped

Was a vibe but then it slowly died out and when I tried to find another group I ran into the age problem

[shadow ether]

I was about to ask you if you know what kind of game RoN is, but it appears that you've been looking at it for a while already

[south smelt]

I have it since you could publicly buy it

[shadow ether]

I mean, this game will let you see some shit

[south smelt]

But cool shit 107 hours of cool shit in my case

[vestal mauve]

you see some shit, you cause some shit
some shit just kinda happens

[shadow ether]

Can't say club neon is cool shit but you do you mate

[south smelt]

Sorry I kinda misunderstood what you meant

[verbal idol]

Is it bad I want to have snipers or at least some DMRs in the game so I can actually feel like a marksman?

[south smelt]

I meant like the gameplay and the funny moments and the badass feeling

But without a group it’s not the same for me

[shadow ether]

RoN can be really graphic about violence at times, made even worse if you know what it references

[south smelt]

Yes some things can be really disturbing

[shadow ether]

I highly recommend Sniper or Not mod
I run with a G3 and I'm the happiest about it

||It also moves MP7 and MP9 to sidearm slot to use them with shields||

[verbal idol]

Is it in the official modding page in game or on another mod site

[shadow ether]

It's on nexus

[verbal idol]

Ah my old friend

[verbal idol]

Does it work with the mods I have from mod.io? I have a few map mods I really like from it cause they’re swat 4 recreations

[shadow ether]

It should work fine with map mods

[verbal idol]

Awesome

[timber radish]

Idk what I am doing wrong about the hanged man achievement honestly
Can I have a list of Do's and Dont's?
Or is the achievement finnicky af and bugged?

[blazing eagle]

When getting the ruined watch, is your officers resigning count as losing them?

[muted star]

ye

[blazing eagle]

fuc

[verbal idol]

Bro forgot mental health issues

[summer copper]

mental health who? just thug that shit out

[shadow ether]

Officer resigns straight to shadow realm

[glacial iris]

hello does anyone know if headshots with shotguns in-game still delete enemies heads entirely? now to me it seems their whole heads just change color and stay on. I'm just wondering if it's been changed or if it's a bug

[normal trout]

yeah pretty sure you’re only able to cave their faces in

[glacial iris]

ok thanks for letting me know I missed the patch notes so I wasn't sure when it was changed since I don't play often

[normal trout]

i don’t think it was in the patch notes

[jolly verge]

Yeah they change it a bit https://www.reddit.com/r/ReadyOrNotGame/comments/1amjyuq/new_gore_showcase/

[fading quiver]

i tried to download record or not but i almost got a fucking virus

[junior depot]

Is it possible to not lose officers to stress when doing lethal runs?

Tired of doing non-lethal runs but I still want to beat Ironman mode without losing officers - what is the best way to do that without my officers going into a crisis and leaving due to all the violence?

[stable kernel]

Use some combination of sbags, moral officer, negotiator, and intimidator. That makes the suspects the most likely to surrender just by being yelled at and provide more benefit for your officers' mental state, or if they don't the sbags reduces the damage

[shy tulip]

You don't have to take every suspect alive, you just have to take a good amount, maps with objectives to take them all alive also help

Easily achieveable if you use your taser, pepper, or throw bangs

[stable kernel]

Also they key to taking suspects alive is to slow play the levels using wedges and breaching tools and grenades to get the advantage on them

[junior depot]

I like the gunfights though

Less interested in making them surrender - does Sbags stack if I use more than 1?

[crude prism]

It does, with slightly diminishing returns. -20%, -35%, -40%, -45%

(stress gain per incap/kill)

[junior depot]

2 seems worth it - what should my other 2 be? I'm thinking nutritionist and kicker but I'm 100% open to suggestions

[muted star]

nutritionist should be better

If it works

[crude prism]

Just be aware that based on the current testing we can do (with nutritionist + armorer) it seems that the trait system is broken right now.

Locked trait on new recruit = active trait
Unlocked trait after they earn it = inactive trait

[summer copper]

they gain stress even with incapacitation?

[crude prism]

yeh

[summer copper]

no wonder my team is constantly in therapy man i put 4 bullets in every threat

i got a modded map caution on rust belt? i dont have any mods

[muted star]

it's a bug

[crude prism]

apparently that happens for some reason lmao

[summer copper]

interesting

hope they fix it soon

[thorny warren]

they enjoy it more when they are the ones who clip them?

send in your team instead of yourself sometimes, i think they are jealous

[radiant nest]

on the neon tomb lore it says a terror group in northern Yemen am I fighting the fucking houthis

[junior depot]

What about with kicker? Does that apply as well or once I unlock it for my squad mate, it'll work?

[summer copper]

oh i do constantly

i don't like dying

[onyx axle]

how do you even de-stress them after a mission? I've had it sometimes where they've lost stress and had a little green up arrow, but rarely

I phrased that poorly

[summer copper]

i have no idea, i experimented with doing another mission very morally but it didn't seem to do anything

[onyx axle]

What conditions need to happen in order for them to lose stress, not gain it

[onyx axle]

it just seems very random

[vestal mauve]

arresting perps and not killing them reduces stress

so run a few Gas Station levels with nonlethals to regain it

[summer copper]

that was gonna be my next experiment it makes sense

[onyx axle]

aye that's where I ended up getting the most

gas station my beloved

[vestal mauve]

yeah Gas is super short and the enemies will give up easily

[onyx axle]

and there's also like 4

[vestal mauve]

right

but yeah, you're SWAT not a death squad
it takes a toll on even the most resiliant

[summer copper]

i will run a death squad every time i replay valley of the dolls

[vestal mauve]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5zZc4Wf4HA

live judge reaction

[crude prism]

Same as the others it seems. I just tested it again with an unlocked version of the trait and it doesn't work

[ruby bloom]

mods disabled third party stickers

oh im wromng channel yippee it still works

[stone bay]

my lobby is being raided

[onyx axle]

The subtitles

King just said "I'll beg"

[stone bay]

"IT'S A PIE"

[onyx axle]

King ACTUALLY said "I'll bag it"

[junior depot]

Yeah I can confirm - just ran a kicker unlocked and it worked for every door first time

[crude prism]

I think those are the only three we can test, as the rest revolve around morale/stress on either the SWAT or suspects side

Armorer, Nutritionist, Kicker are the ones we can actually use as reference

[junior depot]

@scarlet copper @acoustic marsh @empty ridge @main nest @heady bridge can we get an official response on traits being broken? @crude prism and I can confirm that when locked it is active and when unlocked it stops working.. and this is a huge bug that breaks the singleplayer aspect of the game.

[summer copper]

literally me executing everyone with a 12 gauge point blank to the face

[crude prism]

They're aware, you don't gotta @ them lul

I know at least hunter is as I brought it up to him in SEcord

[summer copper]

it's like bro i couldn't not shoot these people bro they were gonna kill me and YOURE having a crisis man...

[onyx axle]

is there any downside to using the suppressor

[junior depot]

Was just hoping for an official response on when we can expect a fix

[stone bay]

decreases the range a little

[crude prism]

Just that you're not using a muzzle break instead for better recoil control. There is no change in range/damage/etc

[onyx axle]

👍

[summer copper]

the suppressor slightly decreasing the amount of time it takes for my bullet to connect with a terrorists skull:

[crude prism]

It's definitely a single true/false check somewhere that got flipped, likely during debug testing and never changed back

[junior depot]

Here's to hoping they hotfix it ASAP! fingers crossed

[hushed yew]

man plz somone help my game crashing when i start

i did the updte i cant playyy

[rare gorge]

is there a way to play without bots

[junior depot]

Tell them to hold as soon as you start the mission and leave them there at the spawn

[stone bay]

host a friends only server

[summer copper]

you might get help in #💻tech-support

[rare gorge]

alright ill try what both of you said

[vestal mauve]

Suppressors are still bugged I think

[frail quartz]

Bugged in what sense?

[vestal mauve]

Increase recoil

[crude prism]

Depends on the suppressor

ump45/ump9 suppressor still increases recoil, even though with 1.0 the in-game tooltip was changed so that it says they "reduce recoil" even though during adam it was "increases recoil"

So someone changed the + and - tooltip but not the actual stats lul

[frail quartz]

1.0 moment

[crude prism]

some pistol suppressors do also increase recoil, but I'm pretty sure they all have the correct tooltip info

[smoky skiff]

do you guys know if there is a way to block lobbies?

there is this dude that i keep joining that just talks and talks and doesn't even start

[crude prism]

nope, suffer at the hands of matchmaking completely out of your control!

[smoky skiff]

like it got so bad i had to block him on steam and it's putting me in a server that he's hosting

[viscid yarrow]

are there any soft objectives on the spider (brixley talent time)

[crude prism]

even if he bans you from the lobby, you'll still get put into it when queueing in the future and then autokicked btw

[smoky skiff]

holy hell im going to lose my mind

[hoary spruce]

is there any way to turn off "promoted to leader" message at bottom right?

[viscid yarrow]

itll leave when you get into a mission

[lethal sparrow]

How can I get an A tier on Hide and Seek

[fallow sage]

just take it slow and try to clear it up sector by sector, dont rush the map, it's p big

[lethal sparrow]

Whenever I do it slow, I will continue getting a C

[summer copper]

does time affect score

[fallow sage]

don't think so, my first run was 28mins A

I got an A+ on my second

[summer copper]

i thought so cuz i did everything perfectly on gas station within like 6 minutes and didn't get S

[fallow sage]

you only get an S for nonlethal and no officers + civvies + criminals dead imho

[shadow ether]

Does the caliber matter for noise when using a silencer?

[lethal sparrow]

I swear, I don't do anything wrong. No penalties, all secret and normal intel reported, No one shot

[summer copper]

that would make sense i have been demogorgon'ing the enemies, ill try the beanbag shotgun

[fallow sage]

uhh yes, there's a reason 300 blackout exists

[shadow ether]

Like, does it make sense to use a .45ACP gun because it's subsonic by default?

[crude prism]

caliber does not matter for noise in game

Just whether or not u have a suppressor on

[summer copper]

in game no, irl very much so

[shadow ether]

Okay I am getting conflicting data here

[fallow sage]

ah yeah they don't model noise profiles don't they

that's a shame, would be nice to punish players for bringing loud weapons

[crude prism]

you are encouraged to bring suppressors because they reduce suspect stress gain, which will keep nearby enemies in the unalerted state for longer while you're shooting

[shadow ether]

Screw that noise then, I thought I could try solo stealthing some levels but it appears that silencers are mainly for my own comfort

[fallow sage]

damn i've been using my F90 the wrong way then

[crude prism]

As long as you aren't mag dumping suspects, controlled 2-3 taps with suppressed weapons will NOT alert enemies around you

[summer copper]

which is not hyper realistic because suppressed guns are still fuckin loud

[shadow ether]

I'll need to check how that works

Time to get an F on relapse 🗿

[crude prism]

I mean I think the game would be better with a map-wide alert status most of the time. But it would considerably increase difficulty lul

But that's a whole nother discussion

[smoky cedar]

they have basically the same sound range. the suppressor doesn’t matter because breaching a door is REALLY loud not to mention you yelling your lungs out at civis and suspects

[shadow ether]

I can imagine a few examples where a silencer would work for your stealth because the place itself is kinda loud. I imagine club neon would really benefit from the suspects not knowing SWAT is in the building with them

[smoky cedar]

suppressors only exist for the gun can be shot without needing ear protection gear because if you shoot without one then your ear is gonna blow out

that’s why you always see swat teams (even without radios) using headsets, no matter if they have earpieces

[summer copper]

club neon is one of the exceptions

[crude prism]

Suppressors alone don't make you a stealth master. They're just one extra thing you can use for a 'less loud' playstyle

[smoky cedar]

yeah no you’d need a heavy silencer even if it’s a loud environment. it’s basically like getting flash banged but without being blinded. no matter if they are suppressed, it’s still hella loud

[shadow ether]

What does make you a stealth master?

[crude prism]

never pressing the F key and just lockpicking every door and head-tapping suspects before they can shoot lul

[smoky cedar]

silencers are one thing and suppressors are another.
Suppressors

• just as loud as a normal gun
• allows you to shoot without ear protection

Silencers

• made to be quiet as fuck
• made for close range combat

[crude prism]

thanks for the irl tip, we're talking about bideo games here sir

[smoky cedar]

I use tasers or i shoot them in the leg. It’s a good way of quickly incapacitating them. If they’re killed you don’t get points for that since your teammates like when suspects are alive

[shadow ether]

Most of the game is close range combat 🗿

[smoky cedar]

i was pointing out the difference because someone thought that suppressors are made to be really quiet

and they aren’t. Those are silencers

[crude prism]

i love the AI SWAT getting stressed out* when we shoot at suspects in self-defense lol

[smoky cedar]

no they just think you’re a sick bastard for head tapping them. but it’s better to just quickly finish them off if you head tap them, because your AI teammates have literally no coping mechanism besides 30 years of therapy sessions. god damn why is the therapy cooldown SOOOO long

also when you incapacitate a suspect most of the time, they yell really loud in pain and scream they don’t wanna die. your teammates get anxious/stress/crisis from that and gain a strong fear of incapacitation, being shot, or dying, to the point that some instantly resign after hearing that shit

[shadow ether]

I mean you are the police, you're not supposed to head tap everyone you come across, they're valuable to the detectives at the very least. Though with some missions I would think it should reduce stress to kill suspects, such as in Relapse

[summer copper]

used the kill me command lol

[smoky cedar]

how

[summer copper]

blasted a suspect while he was surrendered and it popped up

[crude prism]

"I'm on your side man!" -suspect while literally shooting me with his rifle

I kill him

'I need therapy now' -my entire SWAT team

[smoky cedar]

No, in relapse and neon tomb your teammates are still scared shitless because they know that what the terrorists have done can’t be reverted. They saw dozens of dead bodies, dismembered hospital workers. Your AI teammates, in their mind, they know killing them wont change anything

[shadow ether]

We are not taking into account that D platoon is living in los suenos
That alone is worthy of therapy after every week on duty

[smoky cedar]

Your teammates, in those missions, don’t care if the terrorists die or not. They know what is done can’t be reverted

I tried arresting everyone and killing everyone and all of them had the same stress level both sides

[shy tulip]

"Please don't shoot"

https://tenor.com/view/running-get-out-of-here-lets-go-hurry-up-keanu-reeves-gif-13730614

[shadow ether]

Them staying content with nonlethal missions is not them staying calm, it's them delaying the inevitable freak out from living in los suenos

[shy tulip]

I've been told by the reds that RoN 1.5 will include swat instantly resigning during tax season as the endgame

[crude prism]

💀

[shadow ether]

"It felt good not to kill someone today, this will help me tough out the family issues and paying rent"

[smoky cedar]

Fr bro i hate how our swat team doesn’t have the ability to sprint. Yes, putting your gun into the low ready position gives you a speed boost, but it’s very minor, almost unnoticeable. Fair point, we’re like 200 pound grown men, but aren’t we trained with agility, speed, and strength? All of that combined should give us the power to move quickly with all that gear on us

[shy tulip]

They made themselves very clear after pvp was removed that they would never be adding sprinting back because it turned into a run and gun

I'm imagining the current easy AI combined with a sprint

[crude prism]

when can I tactical slide and dolphin dive?

[shy tulip]

Explode on belly flop contact

[smoky cedar]

The AI is annoying when they sprint off, because you can’t do anything about it unless you have a pepper ball gun or beanbag shotgun (which has terrible aim mind you) and the taser can hardly reach

[lunar silo]

is wall running ever going to be added

[shy tulip]

When we get Titanfall 3 (never)

[faint cradle]

^me when the first person shooter players want qol features in my first person shooter

[lunar silo]

real

[prime wing]

with sprint I dont think the performance for this game would hold up either

[crude prism]

if you want to see how drastically different the game is with sprint, just try this mod out https://www.nexusmods.com/readyornot/mods/3750

it's very goofy

[drifting burrow]

yeah i dont think it would work very well

even at low ready you're kinda on the edge between jogging/running in the vanilla game

[shy tulip]

I think it works fine. Suspects running away is nice because they can setup in other rooms and potentially alert others. I think if players could just sprint after them, they'd just turn and be forced to shoot you again

Out of position, I mean

I love the moments where the AI are ready for you and even sometimes prefire and miss you

[shadow ether]

Suspects have sprint

Unfortunately suspects don't have a full belt of flippin grenades each

[smoky cedar]

Oh yeah, with the Gunfighter Mod, you can get fragmentation grenades and also flash bangs that blow up 9 times in a row and sometimes wound you. 2 variants of the 9 banger. And then there’s the concussion grenade, deals minor damage and is more effective than a flash bang

[crude prism]

I'm sad that the grenade throwing behavior was never added to the guys on brisa/sins

[smoky cedar]

So in all other missions

Swat guy: GRENADE OUT!
Suspect: Fuck you too -throws it back-

[shadow ether]

That would make it a nightmare because you can't do shit against a grenade in a room

[smoky cedar]

It’d be funny if that was an actual voice line and mechanic honestly

[smoky cedar]

Run away
oh right, the jogging speed is slow as fuck

[summer copper]

☹️ my heart

[crude prism]

In my head, it would be an alternate behavior for the suspects who attach themselves to doors and listen for you.

The current behavior is that they just barge through the door guns blazing if they hear you.

With the grenade behavior, the guys that are waiting at the door for noise would instead peek the door and drop a grenade through before engaging

[smoky cedar]

The most effective way would be them using flash bangs or stingers

Flash bangs work for us most of the time but we have anti flash

[crude prism]

Yeah I'm not recommending they use frag or something, just flashes probably

[smoky cedar]

If they had full on fragmentation grenades, there’s no getting out of that

[smoky cedar]

Stingers would probably be a good choice. Also, on Los Suenos Postal Services and some other maps, they use CS Gas grenades, but none of them use gas masks.

Pretty ironic if you ask me

[crude prism]

as if there isn't exactly 1 suspect in the game that is immune to CS Gas, even though multiple suspects have masks/facecovers, gas masks

game is trolling

[smoky cedar]

Yeah, some members of The Hand utilize gas masks.

They take less damage, it’s not that they’re immune.

[summer copper]

it would be cool if we could lunge, like double tap a direction key and we lunge in that direction. would be helpful for not getting shot

[crude prism]

wish brand gas masks

[smoky cedar]

By the way, they’re illegally manufactured. They can’t perfect them.

They don’t have the modern militarized tools to make a proper gas mask.

Those masks are homemade basically but with a terrorist touch to it

[shadow ether]

I think I saw some suspects with gas masks on twisted nerve

Naturally, since you probably need a gas mask to just walk around the place

[smoky cedar]

Oh yeah since that entire place is full of cocaine

And also crystal meth

[crude prism]

none of them are immune to, or semi-immune to gas, there is exactly 1 suspect type that is, and it's on lethal obsession

even though lethal obsession also has 2 types of guys with gas masks, and only 1 of them is immune lmao

[smoky cedar]

Yes that ghillie suit guy right

[crude prism]

nah it's one of the accomplices

[smoky cedar]

Man i hated him. I always used CS gas instead of flash bangs when i first played that mission and i was like “WHY ARE NONE OF THEM BEING STUNNED” since all of them take minimal damage

And his assistant is immune

To gas

So that was fun dealing with :/

[shy tulip]

Amazon gas filter

[smoky cedar]

Broken air conditioner filter fr

[drifting burrow]

i still dunno if suppressors actually help that much with ai awareness, i remember pre-1.0 update it didn't do anything

[shy tulip]

MMM said something on the forums about them reducing stress gain, they still get stressed, but not as much as loud

[smoky cedar]

They have like 10% less audible range than unsuppressed and that’s basically it

[shy tulip]

(He could be 🧢ing)

[smoky cedar]

Yup. Hardly any difference

[shy tulip]

It's all about the tacticool value'

[crude prism]

they halve the impact on suspect stress (which controls the alert status of suspects before they make contact with SWAT)

[smoky cedar]

I hardly see one with unsuppressed and suppressed

[smoky cedar]

Never heard of that alert status, only the suspect stress affecting suspect morale

[drifting burrow]

i will try it cuz i like suppressors on guns

[crude prism]

if suspects can hear you shooting, they will go from passive to alert in 15 shots from an unsuppressed weapon
1.5 stress needed to alert, at 0.1 per shot

if you have a suppressed weapon and they can hear you shooting, they will go from passive to alert in 30 shots
1.5 stress needed to alert, at 0.05 per shot

the required stress to alert varies by map

explosives, yelling, grenades, kicking doors all increase suspect stress

So suppressors are just one part of the equation

[vestal mauve]

i feel like suspects surrender more when i go stealthy and are more prone to gunfighting when i go loud

[smoky cedar]

Alr peace out ima go shower. And yes the suppressors basically do nothing besides decrease the stress gain by one tenth. Breaching doors. Yelling, etc are still way louder

[crude prism]

by half, from 0.1 to 0.05

[smoky cedar]

Oh

Alr cya i needs shower

[shy tulip]

I kinda get why people don't like new port, but I think I like it over old port

The wide open area just feels nice with the environmental effects and lighting, and I love how the AI can hide in corners

[prime wing]

its an anti cqb level

thats for sure

[shy tulip]

The true Ready or Not™️ level

[prime wing]

as the "last map" it is a bit anti climatic

but i dont think that matters

[summer copper]

mothafuckin newports

[drifting burrow]

i miss the other port map, the one back when you could choose the modes

and the big hotel map that one was cool imo

[smoky cedar]

Wish they re-added the game mode selection system honestly

[drifting burrow]

same

[smoky cedar]

It’d be better to allow us to have a different experience every time

[crude prism]

in-game sliders for difficulty/spawns etc after beating a level the first time would be SICK

Desperately needed

[smoky cedar]

I think there was Barricaded Suspect, Raid, Hostage Situation, Active Shooter, Bomb Threat

5 gamemodes

What was raid game mode even about? + How did Hostage Situation play out, simply extra hostages? I know there’s a thing that lets enemies put pistols to the head of a hostage, as seen in some clips that played GM HS

Also, what are some famous mods I should get?

I have gunfighter^^

[summer copper]

is there a way to replay a mission without affecting officer mental health or dead-ness

[shy tulip]

Play practice mode

[shy tulip]

Raid was just barricaded with no ROE besides don't shoot civs

Hostage mode is like Sins, at least I'm pretty sure Sins counts as a hostage mode. They would start shooting hostages when alerted

[summer copper]

does that make AI easier

[crude prism]

If sins is "hostage mode" I've never had them shoot any of the family/other civs

[shy tulip]

No, it's the same game, but no stress mechanics or permadeath

Or the slot/perk system

[summer copper]

thank you

[shy tulip]

Pretty sure Sins starts off with like "They have hostages and are ready for you"

Something like that

[summer copper]

i just played it, they say "they have hostages and are not afraid to kill them if provoked" (paraphrased)

[smoky cedar]

Oh. By the way, Sins Of The Father is barricaded suspects game mode. They don’t kill anyone except for you, your teammates, and everyone DOA.

[summer copper]

and then don't kill them when provoked

[smoky cedar]

Something along the lines of “TOC to Entry Team, hostage negotiations have failed. You are cleared for entry. Beware, they will kill hostages if provoked.” Something like that

[drifting burrow]

i think the only level i see suspects kill civilians is elephant college level

[smoky cedar]

And also it helps you get a better understanding of where enemy spawns are and where tripwires are more likely. Also, Elephant practice mode has one bomb ALWAYS in the same spot

[summer copper]

really? they didn't do that for me but i think they did it in 23MB/s or one of those early levels

[modern birch]

Holy cow those 911 voice audio files in Elephant mission are crazy 😫 😫

[drifting burrow]

even then they never really die, they just get incapacitated i think

[smoky cedar]

Yeah they kill EVERYONE on sight. Sometimes i have waves of civilians running towards me and my team. I think they just split up and run around in groups. Saw a bunch of people running into different rooms, up and down the stairs, or they died.

[smoky cedar]

They can die.

[summer copper]

what the hell really? where is that