👮ron-discussion

[shadow ether]

What about fps, most of "the riot" would be the skybox, the soundscape and the environment

[abstract dagger]

Bro do you relize the game isnt optimized for fps still

Eaven if the riot would be the skybox the map would be huge

[shadow ether]

Like, y'know
Club neon technically has like hundreds of people, just most of them are static props merged together

[abstract dagger]

Ohhh

[tough spire]

I always wanted to know how they did crowds in the Hitman games so well.

[abstract dagger]

If were talking like thaf then yeah

[abstract dagger]

Same its like the dead rising thing

They somehow were able to spawn so many hordes of zombies in the game at the same time

And theres still no frame drops

Eaven on a shit pc you could get like 50fps

[shadow ether]

Why would it be huge? You don't need to include the actual riot, just a few lights in the skybox to illuminate a few cleverly placed smoke animations, and the rest is done by the sound
You feel like a riot is next block from you while technically not seeing a piece of it

[abstract dagger]

..

[shadow ether]

NGL I kinda liked the Ides of March for the sense of a bigger thing happening elsewhere at the moment

[abstract dagger]

Wait what about a terrorist attack mission

Like ngl terrorists try to assasinate the president and ambush you mid way of escorting him

And you gotta get the president to the safehouse

Would be preety nice

[shadow ether]

That is way out of LSPD pay grade, that's the feds job at the very least and secret service in particular

[abstract dagger]

But still

Imagine one just like that dude

[shadow ether]

LSPD could be tasked to kick their shit in after a botched attempt at his life, and I think Ides of March is exactly that

[abstract dagger]

It would be sick, right?

[abstract dagger]

Yeah ig that would be cool

But still the idea of you escorting the president to a safehouse after a ambush would be awsome if we rhink outside the box for ideas

[frail quartz]

It wouldn't be very good for gameplay because not everyone will want to protect the president

[stone bay]

Could do a shopping mall

theres so much room for creativity with this game its insane

gotta download some community/mod maps sometime

[abstract dagger]

Yeah since theres no way to optimize it

[stone bay]

Most of the time its generic firearm officers and low teir special units being the first to respond 🤷

[abstract dagger]

Bro this comunity is built of dark humor

[abstract dagger]

We need one where you get scared cause of a acorn💀💀

[crystal sierra]

Only me or they made beanbag utterly unprecise with last update? I can't hit anything with first shot overall

[shadow ether]

Not sure if it's outside the box, seems to me like the mission done in a ton of shooters that doesn't really fit the game's point that you are a cop in a failing city, not a superhero saving the world

What would be cool to me though is being tasked to protect an arms expo or something, and you start from within the security room

[abstract dagger]

Bro "gameplay wise" not "realistic wise"

Gameplay wise out of the box its cool

Realistic wise out of the box not good

[jade obsidian]

Yeah, the game runs great on AMD 6800xt with DX12. No big slow downs, but the Club and hospital are pretty heavy maps.

[abstract dagger]

Try using wine

[strange bay]

Does "officer incapacitated mean he´s dead?"

[shadow ether]

But the gameplay is realistic, and rn the game is really not built for an escort mission and I don't see how it would

I have enough trouble babysitting a squad of "trained officers"

[abstract dagger]

Yes

[earnest phoenix]

no

he will come back after you play a few missions

[strange bay]

all my units are stressed or anxious

[abstract dagger]

Lmao what did they train for how ro breath?

[strange bay]

or in therapy 😄

[abstract dagger]

Bench them

[strange bay]

Well I gotta bring some guys with me

[abstract dagger]

Nuh uhhh

[shadow ether]

No clue but allegedly they are swat officers

[abstract dagger]

Bro theyre not eaven allegedly

They used chatgpt💀💀💀

[shadow ether]

Seriously though, I'm thinking what kind of level would be good during a riot
I suppose most of it should be outdoors to show the burning sky

[frail quartz]

Aren't SWAT and riot police different things?

[shadow ether]

Maybe a junk yard the gunmen escaped to after unloading on rioters?

[frail quartz]

(I'd hope so because I wouldn't want to be associated with the latter)

[shadow ether]

(That's why Judge is not responding to the riot but to a shooting a block down from it)

[celest depot]

I just started the game with my boys, what mods are available for the game

[shadow ether]

Sniper or not

[prime mural]

Run gas station nonlethal a couple times

[celest depot]

What’s that, and where do I find the mods

[shadow ether]

Look up "ready or not nexus", start from there

[celest depot]

Thanks will do!

[shadow ether]

Sniper or not re-adds guns cut from the game and a lot of them are rly good for shits and giggles, and a few of them make a real difference
I'm running a full size G3 and that thing came in clutch on our hospital runs

[celest depot]

We just downloaded and started playing last night so we’ve been trying to get a perfect game on the very first map the gas station I think

[shadow ether]

Also you might wanna get a balaclava until a proper one is introduced

www nexusmods com/readyornot/mods/3150

Sorry for the broken link, the bot gets difficult with links posting

[celest depot]

All good let me take a look

[shadow ether]

That's a mod me and the boys use as a standard, because aint no way Debanco issues face masks to employees because of privacy issues and LSPD won't

With how much suspects are willing to start a shootout with fucking SWAT whenever they see them, I think face masks are a necessity

[celest depot]

Do I have to use a vpn to access it because it’s blocked on my phone

[shadow ether]

That's odd, works fine for me

[celest depot]

I can’t post screenshots so I can’t sure what comes up on my end

Nevermind found the issue lol, I typed in nexus mod instead of nexusmods

[hardy plinth]

wow game still runs like shit for me

[shadow ether]

I play the game on the lowest settings and it runs kinda fine
the hair on everyone looks uggo af tho

[celest depot]

The game ran super fine for me

[shadow ether]

Deagle for sidearm when

If deagle doesn't drop the target outright it should inflict like beanbag state of stun because ain't no way a suspect is shrugging off a 50cal

[near schooner]

why a mf shrug off 356

[balmy sentinel]

If theyre wearing L4 ceramic or steel I can absolutely see it. .50AE wouldnt even bulge those plates.

Its not like .50AE is comparable to even like .300blackout in terms of muzzle energy.

[high beacon]

You can enter the guard booth at the start of the level and prompt a voice line from the computer that's present there. Can't recall the exact words but there's a voicemail briefing on the phone or PC or whatever that says something along the lines of 'be aware, there's been a recent influx of fake police roaming about and attempting to enter the premises'

[fleet talon]

also a single .50 AE round will punch through 2 level 3A plates

[marble juniper]

Do u guys use ap or jhp?

[fleet talon]

depends on map

[tough spire]

JHP for my big guns

[fleet talon]

ap majority of the time

[tough spire]

AP for the littles

[near schooner]

your cooked bro

[near schooner]

if it aint AP then its beanbag/pepper

[tough spire]

The best weapon right now is the taser, anyway

[mossy hatch]

ARWC go brrrrr

[near schooner]

taser is like throwing a spoon at a 8 foot muscular man

[tough spire]

Only if you're terrible at the game

[near schooner]

g36 ontop IMO

[frail quartz]

AP for my LVAR but JHP for my five-seven since it lets it two-shot suspects on map without HP modifiers

[mossy hatch]

gotta admit, idt i've ever used the G36 in RoN

[near schooner]

about that armor penetration

[frail quartz]

JHP 5.7 still penetrates Kevlar first shot like AP 9mm does so I'd consider it a straight upgrade

[near schooner]

i love AP tbh

JHP always felt a lil bit silly

[frail quartz]

I'm still used to trying to avoid killing suspects if I don't have to

I know it doesn't give you extra points anymore, but it's the thought that counts

[stone bay]

AP all day and twice on Sundays

[mossy hatch]

I run 6 mags of AP and 1 of JHP in primary with all my secondary mags being JHP

[tough spire]

Taser is always a one hit surrender, perfectly accurate, always get surrenders in a game where stress management revolves around non-lethal takedowns. It has more than enough range for almost every situation in the game. It frees up your primary slot to bring a single MP7 and mag for shooting out windows. It is objectively the best weapon in the current build.

[mossy hatch]

what is stress managment

[near schooner]

mf if your in gas station, inside of the diner, and a suspect is across the room, you aint doing shit, just get a pepperball already ffs

or the mod that alows you to carry the TZ7000 ( MP5-paintball lookin stuff as a long tactical with pepper ballrounds, 45 per mag )

[tough spire]

The taser can hit any target in gas station and most outside of it. You might just be a bad shot.

[alpine kindle]

hi, could someone tell me how they change their ai officers loadout. Been searching all over and google search answers seem to result negative on my end.

[mossy hatch]

my taser can shoot the wings off a fly at 400m, and then I woke up

[near schooner]

ACROSS

THE FUCKING DINER, INSIDE OF THE ROOM

your at the veterans body, few meters to the right of him

and theres a guy with a glock at the end of the long space that has a bunch of chairs going down it

you arent hitting shit

hes at the blawg a few meters back

[tough spire]

If you're seriously arguing that it's not good because you can't play smart enough to avoid getting hit through all the random glass I can't help you there.

[alpine kindle]

agreed, minimize exposure and seek a different angle of attack if needed

[near schooner]

yk the place where theres the bar-stools that go on for a few meters

lets say your at the start, and the suspect is at the end

your holding a tazer, hes holding a glock like before

your not hitting him, that thing doesnt have the range of god

[tough spire]

You win that exchange because your one shot of taser will beat his many shots of 9mm

[near schooner]

what if you cant hit it

[tough spire]

It can do about double the distance of that, actually.

[alpine kindle]

just throw cs gas in there, problem solved 😅

[near schooner]

no

this is about taser only

[mossy hatch]

"frag out"

[tough spire]

Irrelevant. He's arguing a false information point.

"It can't reach that far" is simply false.

[near schooner]

4.5 meters

is as long as it can reach, that mf is not 4.5 meters infront of you

[tough spire]

Nice fake number.

[near schooner]

actually hold on thats non law enforcement

10.5 meters

[tough spire]

We're talking about in game, not real life.

[near schooner]

okay then

[alpine kindle]

how is distance relevant?

[tough spire]

Do Hanged Man achievement, you can reach out and touch people like 80ft away with that taser.

Probably more

[near schooner]

max 20ft

[tough spire]

Okay bud. Whatever helps you cope.

[marble juniper]

Mcx burst tapping is too good tho. Weapon feels good with angled grip

[near schooner]

okay now i believe you

i just saw that, man what the fuck are they giving these swat teams

fucking zeu's bolt over here

[native rune]

Why are you taking strong stances without any adequate information on how they work

[tough spire]

🌈 Internet Warrior 🌈

[native rune]

This isn’t poker so quit bluffing

[tough spire]

Okay so it's probably not more than 80ft but like I just ran up and zapped a dude outside on the gas station from way the heck away no problem. #🎨ron-screenshots-and-art message

[mossy hatch]

literally just did the same lol, was gonna cut a video but nvm

[tough spire]

If you want to 1-up me with a video I'll gladly take down my screenshot and give you credit

[mossy hatch]

lol aight gimmie a min

[tough spire]

Deleted mine. Send it!

[mossy hatch]

rgr, #🎨ron-screenshots-and-art message

[tough spire]

LOL same dude even

[mossy hatch]

yup lol

[tough spire]

In non-taser related news, I really enjoy the mp7 pistol sights.

[cursive shadow]

hey uh does playing co-op unlock levels

i beat elephant and rust belt last night and was wondering if it would carry over from co-op to practice solos

[shy tulip]

Don't think so

Campaign transfers to practice, practice does not transfer to commander

[cursive shadow]

i meant co-op to practice. not co-op to practice to commander

[shy tulip]

As I said, I don't think so

Especially if you haven't unlocked up to then

[cursive shadow]

ah ok

[rain hazel]

Not completely true

If you have a level unlocked in practice and you beat it in co-op, the next level will also be unlocked in practice

Oh :P they said that

[fading quiver]

what is coyote

[rain hazel]

Essentially if you already had Elephant unlocked then Rust Belt and Sins of the Father should've unlocked for you

[cursive shadow]

ah got it got it. cool thanks. i was up to elephant in practice, beat it, and beat rust belt after that. so i guess they should be unlocked now.
coyote is a human trafficker

[rain hazel]

Yes, they should be

[fading quiver]

it says complete coyote using only revolver

[rain hazel]

Actually I think Coyote are smugglers not traffickers

Important distinction

[amber dock]

^^

[stone bay]

Game runs fine for me...looking forward to more content

[round zephyr]

Question: I'm trying to run the hermit acheivement. Earlier, I fired a couple officers bc I wasn't planning on using their traits. Did I ruin the achievement by doing so?

[vestal mauve]

Yes

[round zephyr]

dammit okay thanks

[waxen grove]

I can see why they put off releasing the road map

[strong hinge]

Flashlight on VKS does not work. Thinks its laser instead

[waxen grove]

As early as spring for dlc 💀

No talk of modding sdk

[strong hinge]

embarrasing bug, wonder when this happened?

[waxen grove]

Ikr.

However game isn’t far off from where it needs to be

Just thought it would be fixed before we even hear about dlc 1

And that also means no more free maps. So much for fast food

We better not get a unfinished map that’s already in the game files as dlc

And us modders will know

Red flag one was the way steam early access and supporter edition was handled

Second was the radio silence all last year

[prime wing]

No one is gonna put that much effort out of spite

[waxen grove]

Third was the state it released in at 1.0 with the price hike

Like it was never worth the early access price in ea but when it was finally worth that they upped the price

Not happening

[prime wing]

You dont know how map creators work

its not something they do out of spite

Ok

[waxen grove]

Modders mod the game because they see protental

Ai modders see the issues with the ai that void wont fix and fix it

[amber dock]

That's piracy

[waxen grove]

Map modders see the brilliant game we have and make fun maps that are often a lot better then stock maps

Yes vanilla is shit

But the core gameplay, the gunplay. Had it not be where it’s at the modders wouldn’t even try

[amber dock]

wrong, I map mod fueled entirely by pure rage

[prime wing]

facts

[tough spire]

Speak for yourself my dude. Quit trying to make your opinion out like it's universal truth.

[waxen grove]

Never said it had replay value

[tough spire]

Oh my bad I didn't realize you didn't know the difference between fact and opinion. Carry on.

[waxen grove]

Look dude. We both agree the game isn’t good but it’s not so bad as you think

[tough spire]

Just stop engaging the troll.

[somber belfry]

lol what happening

[waxen grove]

Some dude is mad

[tough spire]

Same thing that happens daily in here. An entitled gamer spitting histrionics and confusing opinion with objectivity and riling us up.

[somber belfry]

oh lmao

[waxen grove]

As a modder my self I mod because I see where the game could be better. Its so close to being good but so far

I disagree with voids direction but the core gameplay is there for me to keep coming back hoping it gets fixed

Either by modders or by void

[spring knoll]

Gerati has done nothing but complain the entire time they’ve been here just don’t bother with them lol

[tough spire]

It would be great if the chat mods actually enforced the rules on the server.

[amber dock]

Yeah, let's stop

This was going too far

[waxen grove]

Its poorly optimised, Maps are poorly lit, we don’t have working mirrors, PIP mirror gun doesn’t work, mission icons, glitches, seam gaps in walls, Swat Ai which are dumb as rocks, Hostage AI which are too smart for their own good, Hostage ai that have no care for their own lives.
BUT, its gun play is there. The core of the game is solid enough that all the rest of the issues when fixed would leave a game that could comfortably reach the swat 5 title

[crude prism]

💀

[amber dock]

👍

[waxen grove]

Yeah just swing the hammer at this point 💀

[prime wing]

Wrong reply

[lost kernel]

16gbb

[waxen grove]

To change the subject hows suspect ai now.

[prime wing]

What were we talking about

I dont even know

[crude prism]

fortnite battlepass

[terse merlin]

Suspect ai is notably less suicidal and less cracked

[prime wing]

Some of the models in the station do look like nightmares

[tough spire]

I'm a big fan of Man With Burger

[fading quiver]

how do i make my own map

[waxen grove]

Im curious as to what the last patch did to ai . Currently updating to check ai and performance

[crude prism]

AI got tuned from like 11 to 3

also new bugs that make the player stronger lul

[waxen grove]

Oh lovely

Its one thing to have bugs that make the ai stronger

When can I just judge the ai without wild bugs that ever over crack them or crack the players

[reef charm]

did my message just get delted

[crude prism]

the bot probably zapped it for saying suicide

idk what determines if it does, but it does sometimes lul

the answer to your question is yes though, some suspects can self delete

[reef charm]

will that prevent a s class run

[crude prism]

ayup

[reef charm]

fuck me i was almost through

thankyou

[tough spire]

Doin' an S run like "I'm here to save everyone!" and then you hear a random shot on the other side of a door and walk in and the guy's on the floor. 😭

[dim swallow]

I wonder if the Home Invasion DLC would introduce new story arcs or continue the current ones

[spark flame]

guys is it still possible to become a supporter?

[fading quiver]

how do i make judges voicelines german

[junior depot]

Is there something special about elephant that doesnt allow you to pause?

I was half way through, had 1 bomb disarmed and needed to pause but I couldnt and then died

[dim swallow]

Change his voice lines in the VO folder iirc

Although you'd need a set of German voice lines to do so

[fading quiver]

oh my fucking christ thats a shit load of fucking voicelines

ive only heard like 30

why does the game need 300000

[junior depot]

Can I get some gun recommendations? Wanting to mix it up

[reef star]

where can i find ready or not save preset file?

[dim swallow]

Variations ig

So you'd always listen to something new on your first 100 hours

[maiden sierra]

There is a Mod which uses the old German Voice Lines from SWAT4. You can find it on NexusMods when you search for „German“

[tacit scaffold]

No way, ntm person

[dim swallow]

Hi

[tawny scroll]

Playing zombies mode rn

WE AINT GETTING OUT

[prime wing]

and theres 0 support afaik

from steam or void

(not worth)

[spring knoll]

(i did it anyway and got it)

[waxen grove]

nope

carful, outlawed topic in here (i got warned in the past)

[spring knoll]

ah okay

[waxen grove]

yeah they dont want us talking about key sites in here. Sooooo no way to get supporter 😄

i almost pulled the trigger the day before release

kind of glad i didnt

[prime wing]

theres no way to get into the server anymore I think, unless you joined before it was removed

[jaunty pond]

Ok, my friend and I are brand new to the game. We are having a hell of a time joining into a private game. ANY ASSISTANCE would be greatly appreciated. TIA

[junior depot]

Can I get some gun recommendations? Wanting to mix it up

[molten finch]

Lvar bb

[junior depot]

full-auto or single fire? What sights and muzzles? grips? attachments?

[molten finch]

Full auto in bursts, though that takes practice, use AP rounds if you have gunfighter bc the OTM modded ones aren’t as good, combat grip (I have gunfighter so please do your own testing if you don’t use gunfighter) I use the srs but I have a mod for it to replace it I can get that link in a sec) and then I switch between laser pointer and ir laser

Practice using single fire first

[junior depot]

what is gunfighter? a squad trait?

[molten finch]

https://www.nexusmods.com/readyornot/mods/2366

[junior depot]

thanks for the link!

[molten finch]

Gunfighter is a mod that makes minor changes across a lot of the gunplay in Ron

That is the best sight imo, I mix that with a green color reticle mod

[junior depot]

Cheers

[molten finch]

And then I’ll carry a 5.7 because the high cap, typically I’ll use it for breaking windows that I want to see better through

There is also a mod I have that makes the Lvar and the 5.7 black

I can get you all the mods when I get off work

The green reticle is super handy, it’s a lot harder to lose it because the human eye can register more shades of green than any other color, and nothing is so green in the game that you lose it but I found myself losing my red dot in quite a few maps without it

Give that load out a try, super good imo

Though if your going to use full auto you have to burst it in 2-3 rounds

[kind zinc]

is ports bugged? some of the suspects weapons are invisible to some players

ran it like 2 times, happened both times sweeped the map for 30 minutes and we were missing 4- 6 weapons both times

[waxen crater]

yall 2 of my officers just died in ironman mode but somehow theyre still alive in my roster post-mission

breached a door with c2 charge that had a tripwire behind it

[brittle sable]

You probably had a Paramedic on the team, they turn deaths into incapacitates, meaning they stay alive on your roster

[mortal aurora]

u prob got a medic in yo team

[waxen crater]

na he was in therapy

[mortal aurora]

check all their traits

[mortal aurora]

dafaq

[bright valley]

mood

[waxen crater]

yea literally before the mission i swapped him out for a pacifier

cuz bro was stressed

[mortal aurora]

huh

neat

what level are you on

[waxen crater]

just completed ides of march

the hotel one with the military vet dudes

[mortal aurora]

was it hard

[waxen crater]

on a scale of 1-10 id say like a solid 7

cuz i had to constantly check for traps n stuff

[mortal aurora]

they got traps???

dayum

[waxen crater]

yea thats how my 2 officers died

[mortal aurora]

they real hoodlums

[waxen crater]

💀

[mortal aurora]

my iron man run ended when a suspect ran into a trap on the forest map

[waxen crater]

ah the one with the house in the middle of nowhere

[mortal aurora]

yes

ruby ridge

[waxen crater]

ye thats the first map in the sequence that has traps

gg

just died cause didnt reload

[kind zinc]

chance they die

[sharp fox]

dude i kicked a door open so hard my game crashed

💀

[kind zinc]

yea they probably glitched through the floor

lighting is so fucked too

[formal grotto]

did they adjust the eotech zoom

i swear its different

[sturdy gazelle]

What is the max no. of player allowed for a mission?

[kind zinc]

unmoded I think like 6

[formal grotto]

5

isnt it?

[kind zinc]

Ive seen 6 im on unmodded servers

[sturdy gazelle]

Idk Im in multiplayer match w/ 7

[formal grotto]

strange

[sturdy gazelle]

Also the ppl in vineyard are modded ig? They rush out with knifes

[kind zinc]

you cant join modded servers without mods client sided'

[sturdy gazelle]

Idk i only got the gunfighter and ai rework mod, but still able to join that

Maybe the host hv it

[kind zinc]

he probably has the zombie mod

[sturdy gazelle]

Lol ye I asked and he told me it’s zombie mod, rlly crazy with the bloodbath

[tacit gull]

You can, considering you've seen 6 people in a lobby you've definetly joined a modded lobby

[kind zinc]

does that only apply to maps then?

I've definitely seen 6 on unmodded though

[sturdy gazelle]

Also wut does checksum means? I see it on my upper right corner of the screen

[molten finch]

I just watched the clearest view of a suspect eating theior uzi while running hospital

jeeeezus

[fading grotto]

We need more customization options in this game, I'm trying to run around butt naked with an space helmet popping people with a lethal NERF gun

[stone bay]

i fucking hate random lobbies bro, they need to make a server browser so you see what is going on

[fading grotto]

Are people toxic or something?

I wanted to try public games but haven't yet

[stone bay]

Way to toxic

Or just straight up brain dead

[fading grotto]

Oh I really need to try it now lol

[plucky condor]

Anyone got an idea on how to fix your cursor trying to jump off the screen

[fading grotto]

Hit escape

[plucky condor]

When I aim off to any side the cursor eventually start-

[fading grotto]

Oh

[plucky condor]

Wow that worked?

[fading grotto]

When you aim around it goes off the screen?

[stone bay]

Like for example right now i tried to play normally without any mods and just minding my own business... and just because i dont want to play with GunFighter mod the douche bag in the lobby tk'd me and said "Bye slow boy"

[plucky condor]

It starts flickering at the very border of it

[stone bay]

Also, has anyone had crashes since the new Hotfix update ?

[fading grotto]

YESSSS it makes me so mad

I also go from like 120+ fps to 25

[stone bay]

Ready or not just straight up fucking dies on me for no reason and on the logs it has no info of it

[fading grotto]

Yeah I'll load in and start a mission and the game will close, or I am about to S rank a mission and then one of the objectives didn't spawn in or some evidence is stuck in the walls and I can't reach it, It makes me mad but the game is too fun I just get over it

[stone bay]

I mean my game was fine before the update and now i cant even finish a mission without crashing

I want to think it's my PC but other games have no problems

Imma just uninstall and reinstall

See if that gets the fix done

[fading grotto]

Yeah I heard since they added the 1.0 update or whatever it was people have been having issues

That didn't work for me but you can try it

[stone bay]

For me 1.0 was fine

Until for some reason my game crashes constantly

[past gulch]

Yea I got the same problem

[plucky condor]

Okay I hit escape and the cursor stops trying to jump off the screen

The moment I fire it starts doing it again

[spring knoll]

does anyone know which guns are the supporter edition ones

[stone bay]

I have no idea

Never had Supporter Edition :c

I wanted to buy it but it's now gone i think

[molten finch]

I kinda wish i did

[spring knoll]

oh i figured it out

[marble juniper]

Did they change the ai recently? It seems worse

[tacit gull]

They lowered the accuracy on suspects and now their bullets dont pass through walls like paper

[marble juniper]

Like ides of march they just all ran out of the doors into the hall way and the school same as well. I cleared all enemies with the 1minute of the map lol

[stone bay]

They adjusted the AI to be less fucking crazy aimbot

And supposedly adjusted the Stress of suspects

But i feel no difference

And when i do they go bananas

[marble juniper]

Lol fr. They all are crack heads that dont care for their life. Cant use ai mod because i wanna play mod maps haha

[stone bay]

Nah but like right now they should feel more chill

Like not so aggressive

Less accurate and they should comply with commands more

[shadow ether]

I just now thought about it but why is D platoon tasked with bagging evidence in the middle of an entry if they supposedly have trailers
Like, wtf are the trailers even doing

[bold sky]

they are disabled bc rn they either have to be very good at shooting so suspect dont pop them or they suck and you have suspects killing them

like they gonna enter the map so they prolly can be targetted; else they will just be lifeless inanimated objects

[bright valley]

I think the original idea was that you were simply clearing/disabling weapons but the bags just wound up being the most consistent way to visibly express that.

[shadow ether]

What's wrong with them being inanimate objects if right now they are straight up not doing anything while D platoon does their entire work

I hope Judge gets paid for them too

[thorny warren]

noooo, so close to beating the last mission

[thorny warren]

now i brought order to chaos and did all objectives but now i gotta find that last civilian, and for some reason i cant do "search and secure"

now the option showed up after securing some evidences with "search area", but they stopped before finding the civilian, this is annoying as hell

[limber steppe]

search and secure won't find civilians that haven't already surrendered at some point iirc

[thorny warren]

still looking...

[sturdy gazelle]

Is there any mod that allow more ai in mission?

[thorny warren]

i might lose it, i've been roaming around for a while and i just can't find that last civilian

[hardy plinth]

Should you be able to cancel the restraining animation?

[earnest phoenix]

if you die while restraining someone it is unironically a skill issue

[hardy plinth]

Sometimes you just clear a room with like two enemies and you just like to restrain them before checking the next room

[earnest phoenix]

get your ai to cover you

[hardy plinth]

and then someone just randomly comes sprinting through the door shooting you while you're just there like "hold up let me get this first"

I-

I like to play without the AI ☝️ 😎

[thorny warren]

i think the last civilian fell out of the map or something, i went to every possible location

[earnest phoenix]

with every single suspect having full auto guns you wouldnt have time to cancel the animation, pull out your gun, aim and shoot back anyway

[thorny warren]

i really dont wanna restart given the time and effort it took to get this far

[hardy plinth]

@thorny warrenDid you check outside too?

[thorny warren]

i checked everywhere, i brought order to chaos and all other objectives like an hour ago

[brittle sable]

Also under beds and in closets.

[thorny warren]

you can check under beds? also where are closets on that map?

[brittle sable]

Yes, you can check under beds, and if not just get the AI to do it
im not sure if there are closets on port

[thorny warren]

maybe when i closed that container door there was a civilian inside, anyway we'll never know now because i gave up

i wonder who the guy on the laptops is, he reminds me of a movie

[bleak tangle]

https://www.twitch.tv/xbradd1 Live Now, Building a community! Come say HI!

[thorny warren]

you got permission to advertise?

[limber steppe]

which map

[thorny warren]

the last one, "hide and seek"

[limber steppe]

did you find the uhh "room"

[thorny warren]

wym, i went to every single location multiple times on the map

[limber steppe]

check all of the shipping containers carefully

[thorny warren]

yes i found the one with drugs, weapons and i closed the door like fisa told me, and i know i found them all because all objectives were complete except for "rescue all of the civillians"

[limber steppe]

no not that

there's a ||hidden passage in one of them||

[thorny warren]

in the warehouse?

like i alr said i've been everywhere, i'll just do the mission again later

[timid wraith]

what are the best setting for an i5 10400f and an rtx3060?

[thorny warren]

just start from ultra and keep lowering it until its smooth, mine is smooth at ultra but at the same time i only have a 1080p monitor

i dont think the cpu matters a lot in ron tbh

[timid wraith]

Most of the games i play are cpu heavy so thats new

which is bad cus i got a not so good cpu

[thorny warren]

you're welcome

[timid wraith]

why do i get bad fps spikes?

[thorny warren]

idk, check task manager? vram usage etc

[timid wraith]

im playing on 2140p will it be a good increase in fps if i play in 1080?

and its still spiking in fps

[thorny warren]

idk, just lower the settings

and cap it to like 60

[timid wraith]

i no no wanna

[timid wraith]

also for armour whats the balanced option for good protection but also good movement

[thorny warren]

i just use full ceramic, ceramic is actually better than steel because it will actually protect you completely instead of just reducing damage, although it can break

it only affects agility, not top speed

[thorny warren]

OK i did "hide and seek" again, and now i have the same problem... just where is that civilian?

[near schooner]

check behind boxes, inside of containers

if you didnt find the spanish guy, look around spawn

[thorny warren]

ok i'll try to look at the spawn, also i kept all suspects alive this time

[near schooner]

are you S-tiering?

[thorny warren]

nope, 2 of my men are dead

three was potential though

[near schooner]

hm

id recommend shooting your gun too

civilians will scream or say ''help!''

[stone bay]

Are squadmmates permenantly dead in this game?

[near schooner]

story mode yes

lets say you have an officer named alex

if alex dies, alex is gone

[thorny warren]

i think i opened every container you can open

and my team does nothing when i do "search and secure"

[sudden marsh]

so are The devs gonna make dlc before making the core game more enjoyable?
thats how i feel from that roadmap

[thorny warren]

oh my hod it worked, my team found him with "search and secure", he was somewhere in the warehouse...

and i got an A

[slender adder]

the game is pretty enjoyable what are you on

[sudden marsh]

theres bugs that need to be ironed out, the optimization is horrendous with video proof

[thorny warren]

well, i did it, i beat the game, right?

[slender adder]

I thought you guys wanted no crack for AI built into the game

do you have no clue that these can be fixed along with content additions

[thorny warren]

now i gotta do campaign...

[sudden marsh]

they couldve been fixed a while ago

[slender adder]

bro so true

there should be a button that when you press it the project is instantly completed

like a cheat code irl

[sleek hollow]

How am I meant to know when a mod is compatible with 1.0

because my game keeps crashing on open

[thorny warren]

i still wonder who the guy on the discord call on the laptops was, he just didn't wanna talk to me he went offline the moment he saw me

[earnest phoenix]

look at when it was last updated

[sleek hollow]

Most of them were updated in mid 2023

Because basically my game keeps crashing when I open it and I don't know which mod is doing it

[thorny warren]

tbh im satisfied with the ai and the game currently overall

[sudden marsh]

the game has the makings of a great game, but the optimization just ruins it, i run 100 fps but not without stutter, and especially
the amount of CTD'S ive had, and me dipping to 20 fps in the next room over

and them announcing DLC already while theres more issues on the horizon is big yikes

[thorny warren]

my fps only gets terrible when i enter the room with the bomb in "relapse"

[slender adder]

announcing???????? they have been planning it for years

[thorny warren]

i cap it to 60fps and its perfectly fine on ultra

[slender adder]

like the supporter's upgrade straight up tells you that you will get one free expansion

this is just them following their pipeline why are you making shit up

[thorny warren]

i just really wish i could see my best grade on missions without having to load them and die first

[sudden marsh]

making what shit up? its public info.

[slender adder]

you made it up when you said they were announcing them now

[sudden marsh]

they are announcing it now and more DLC in fact, just because they mentioned it once doesn't mean anything

[slender adder]

incredible

[rocky latch]

GG's they made the game too easy

[slender adder]

its over

[rocky latch]

ye i got on for the first time in a while

and noticed im just brainlessly holding w

[slender adder]

yeah I played right after the update dropped

and realized I was face tanking suspects with FALs

[rocky latch]

yep i had a situation where two suspects peaked me and i still killed them bc apparently its meaningless now

[slender adder]

and then I went off to start playing Tarkov and have my balls crushed

[rocky latch]

u dont have balls :/

[slender adder]

not anymore

video game does crazy things to people

[rocky latch]

what do we do now

[slender adder]

play Tarkov

it's pretty okay honestly

[rocky latch]

tarkov can be pretty camp~y though

[slender adder]

camping is a real world tactic

like, the game is bullshit but I get to apply real world tactics sometimes to decent effect like I did with RoN

said real world tactic: desync abuse

[rocky latch]

It feels like the game is playing against you too much

The ambience environment etc

[slender adder]

it is

that's why the game is bullshit

but the risk factor makes it fun

wouldn't be fun if I had nothing to lose

or everything was working with me

[rocky latch]

whats more fun is joining OCE voice chat

the ausies are super funny

[slender adder]

entertaining creatures

amusing, even

[azure karma]

anyone been having a problem with co-op when you host people join but then immediately get disconnected, and happens even when you have no mods running?

[strange bay]

Can officers “die” or do they only get incapacitated?

[azure karma]

they die

[strange bay]

So there’s a difference?

[azure karma]

yes

incapacitated they can recover after a few missions

[bleak tangle]

https://www.twitch.tv/xbradd1 Live now PvP Mod!

[azure karma]

usually 3

[strange bay]

How do they “die?” Is it just Chance?

[azure karma]

headshot or something idk

[silk junco]

stinky

[lost inlet]

Few days ago, i was showing my friend some smg gameplay of ron. He asked where the muzzle brake and the compensator for the smg, i said smg have low to no recoil so the dev decided not to add them. I was showing the recoil pattern of the mpx, he lost all hope to this game

[molten finch]

Ok, so trying to complete way out west and i brought a magnum and nothing but 25 mags for it

why did i not get the achiev even when i completed everythin

My ai didnt use flashes or gas or anything and i never pulled anything but my magnum

[lost inlet]

You use nods?

[molten finch]

As headgear not loadout item, though i did use my ai to clear some rooms which i think was the issue

[stone bay]

Which of the two available muzzle brakes is gassier?

[neon forge]

hi guys quick qn so basically im in my sidearm menu and theres this new pistol called glock 19 simulation what is it

[molten finch]

sim rounds i assume, ltl

[lost inlet]

Yep solo single player with no nods no armor? True only magnum, probably no attachments as well

[molten finch]

idk

[neon forge]

oooooo

[odd briar]

Why is the breaching shotgun not lethal lol

[stark hollow]

they arent irl

i think you'd have to hit them in the head pretty close up

[bitter mason]

breaching shotguns are just weird in this game
you dont even need to shoot the hinges or handle or anything, just the middle of the door will somehow swing it open from any range

[stark hollow]

training rounds

[sharp fox]

please make breaching shotguns lethal 🙏🙏

[odd briar]

If they can breach a door why can’t they breach every vital organ

[sharp fox]

fr

nuh uh

[thorny warren]

i wanna talk about the story because its still pretty unclear

also what is the problem with the suspect's heads on the last mission?

[bitter mason]

they've got masks on

story feels very underdevelopped, the briefings sometimes dont match the actual situation of a level and not in an intentionally misleading way like misinformation or assumptions
all of the actual lore is just hidden in map details

and the levels arent entirely in the right order, such as spider actually taking place after datacentre but in game spider is first

[quasi gate]

I also noticed their campaign didn't have any order of the story lines to tie in the lore

[bitter mason]

theres also plenty of missing dialogue for reporting evidence

[quasi gate]

I mean logically I think you'd need to have evidence to get a warrant to take someone down like Brixley, but at the same time, you'd need to get hard proof that Brixley was involved with the server scheme too by means of interrogation

[bitter mason]

only evidence report with unique dialogue is on the last level

[quasi gate]

When you say last level are saying Valley of the Dolls?

[bitter mason]

no the last level of the game

hide and seek

[thorny warren]

the one where fisa jumps in is the only one i can think of

[bitter mason]

yeah because its the only one

every other evidence report is "Bagging it up"

many of the maps just feel empty outside of the mission zone

no other police presence, its literally only TOC and the entry team for most of the maps

[thorny warren]

i mean its a video game...

[thorny warren]

there are cars though, but yeah its weird there are no officers

[bitter mason]

cars that are driving down roads that realistically would probably be closed

[bitter mason]

sure but for a game that is trying to be a super realistic and immersive swat game, its missing a lot of the actual immersion

you take one look outside of the levels themselves and all immersion is just gone

[thorny warren]

i was talking about the stationary police cars, but yeah there was an actual swat officer who realised that too

[hardy plinth]

Does the game have fake ambient gunshots? I neutralised all threats and there's still these bursts of gunfire to be heard

this is on The Spider

[bitter mason]

even with the stationary plice cars, they're empty, theres no other police holding back civilians and crowds, like the campus map, there is just swat vans at each entry point and a completely empty campus

[bitter mason]

yes

the spider has some ambient gunshots, I imagine implied to be a gang shootout since you're in the hood basically

[hardy plinth]

Is this on every mission or just The Spider to give you the feeling you're in some ghetto?

ooh

[bitter mason]

28 megabytes has some, I assumed it was intended to be coming from the streamers room since he is playing (not) counter strike
but I dont think it is and is some more ambient gunfire

[hardy plinth]

I thought it was the AI trying to wallbang me across the map

[bitter mason]

reasonable lol

[near schooner]

im trying to download a simple shirt for my officers

3 fucking hours 😭

like ziggity zayum thats actually crazy

[stone bay]

It is said that SWAT is a life saving organisation, not a life taking one. What you say?

[strange bay]

Is the only way to get rid of "stress" to bench them, or can I run less lethal rounds?

[frail quartz]

A lot of people like to S rank small maps like the gas station with less lethal weapons to destress their officers

[crystal sierra]

What kind of weapons they have on relapse ffs, i'm wearing full steal armor, they are literary one shotting me every time

[frail quartz]

They're mostly armed with 7.62x39 assault rifles and 7.62x51 battle rifles (the strongest round in the game)

[crystal sierra]

My general problem tbh is general mess with innacuarcy of beanbeg, 90% of the time when i try to rush them with beanbag i get stuck into doorway, aka my char will rise weapon like he is close to the wall when he is not, as well, somehow i always miss shots with beanbag, never accurate overall

[idle summit]

Does the Battering Ram and Breaching Shotgun cause suspects to loose Morale / chance to surrender?

[crystal sierra]

Bigger the explosion / impact, bigger chance to surrender overall, RAM is kind of default to breach and flash, shotgun it at least for me meh since you can't open the door fully with it, C2 is god tier, but while playing with bots, since, Ty God, if you are playing with real people, they will die from explosion while staying close to the doorway, while bots are immune to it.

[crystal sierra]

Tbh, it's always fascinating to me to see always my first guy dying like he is from paper, but, other 3 will wreck shit out of all 5 suspects inside that room without any kind of injury, game is awesome

[ivory kiln]

i'm always the pointman

[ivory kiln]

my guys rarely die most of the time it's me who get gunned down or shot to shit

[tough spire]

This is the most fun way to play on current build

[ivory kiln]

yeh i always want all the glory for myself

[tough spire]

For me it's more that I got so used to hiding behind my bots in previous builds it's nice to take point and be first in more.

[jolly verge]

With current damage system it's doesn't matter what weapon suspect use. Damage to you is always capped to 70, then there are comes damage multipliers for steel and limbs, so the maximum damage you will take with full steel vest is 21, with armorer trait even lower, 17.5

[midnight goblet]

Why does nothing happen when I say search and secure

[muted star]

everything is collected besides the soft objectives

or some door is locked and they can't acces it

[tough spire]

They'll only go back to rooms you've explored. You may have missed some doors

[hardy plinth]

Enemies survive booby traps???

[tough spire]

Shouldn't. Definitely lost Gerard that way.

[open lake]

has anyone noticed the ai isnt strafing sa much as before? am i going crazy

[hardy plinth]

I'm doing A Lethal Obsession

I heard the booby trap explosion and I went to look at the door

the door was still closed, but the enemy's head was clipping through as he got back up

then when I opened the door he shot me

[tough spire]

Interesting. Dunno.

Sounds like bug.

[hardy plinth]

Quite familiar with those by now

[jolly verge]

they hit about half of suspects health

[tough spire]

I mean they should be smarter than to trip their own traps anyway so whatever.

RoN is a fun game tucked away in an absolute shit show of a game. Is what it is.

[versed dune]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[hardy plinth]

That's really what it feels like

I would've excused most of the bugs if it was early access

But as of now there is no way this game deserves to be almost full price

[tough spire]

Pretending this is a 1.0 release was one of the biggest blunders Void could have ever made. Yeah.

They got overeager for holiday sales and instead just got a bunch of angry players.

[versed dune]

1.0 is not polish at all

[hardy plinth]

Game runs like ass still

I have recommended specs but am forced to play on low graphics

[versed dune]

Hopefully 1.1 is better than this.

[hardy plinth]

with not even consistent 60fps

[tough spire]

The real question is:
Will it become polished and the awesome game it has the bones to become?
Or will Void continue to alienate and blunder until the game dies to its own reputation

I'm hopeful for the former, obviously, because I'm still here and supporting the community. But yeesh

[versed dune]

I have to turn off Bounce Light and Per-Object Shadows

and gain like 30FPS

[hardy plinth]

ooh that was still enabled

[terse umbra]

Lmaoooo they’re really going DLC route when the game is still early access 🤣😂😂

[versed dune]

They removed the early access tag for the game on steam

[hardy plinth]

but the game practically feels early access

[versed dune]

yea

[crude prism]

1.0 is a 'released' game in name alone, we all know it. But what we consider doesn't matter, if Void wants to front it as a finished product, they can

[prime wing]

1.0 from december 13 being what a good enough condition for a full release meant for the studio is kinda disappointing, but it is what it is

[versed dune]

Hopefully 1.1 is better

[terse umbra]

Oh yeah I know I was just making fun because this definitely does not feel like a finished product

[clever ridge]

Hello everyone just bought the game

[versed dune]

Yo

[prime wing]

https://tenor.com/view/depression-pain-gif-22760547

[tawny scroll]

🫡

do we have an lmt mrp upper mod???

[foggy zinc]

a what

[hardy plinth]

Do pepperballs explode on impact with any surface or do they bounce?

[tawny scroll]

•~• s p i c y b a w l s

[foggy trench]

hello

[crude prism]

I don't believe pepperballs can ricochet at all. They always pop

[hardy plinth]

oh ok

[foggy trench]

is there any helmet that doesn't clip with the masks?

[hardy plinth]

how far is the range of their cloud usually?

[tawny scroll]

like a few feet idk •~•

i just pop em around suspects and they sting

[hardy plinth]

How many does it usually take? I find myself running low on ammo quickly

[crude prism]

If you hit people, it takes 4 to cause a stun. Besides that, shooting several in close proximity will cause a gas cloud, but the stun is what you need for fast surrenders

[hardy plinth]

oooh ok

because I thought what made this gun good is that you can hit enemies while they're out of line of sight

[crude prism]

the gas will make them move out of position + make it so they can't fight back until they do, but it doesn't hit morale very much

sometimes the gas is enough to get surrenders if you've got multiple SWAT yelling at them

[hardy plinth]

The amount of swat members yelling makes a difference in compliance?

Interesting, I didn't know that

I felt like yelling was kinda useless anyway unless you know you've stunned someone

[jolly verge]

about 5m

[hardy plinth]

Oh wow that's a lot

[crystal sierra]

Well, let's try again, S run on Relapse part 105234523402

[hardy plinth]

Can enemies with bandana's around their mouth resist pepper balls?

This one guy just wouldn't get stunned

Like it didn't bother him at all

[crystal sierra]

Everything on them is purely cosmetics, gas works on enemies with gas mask, sole exception is that safehouse map in forest with traps

[hardy plinth]

Must be another bug then

[crystal sierra]

I don't suggest using papper balls overall on you, only on bots, most of the time if you are trying S run, you will get unautorized force penality, if paper ball gas for example catches suspects who already surrendered and you were shooting other guy next to him, you will get penality for nothing, use beanbag only, altho accuarcy is really bad on that, so, use laser

[hardy plinth]

yeah it's just I've been using beanbag all the time, thought of switching it up

[odd briar]

Ready or not fall damage is real

[crystal sierra]

Try beanbag on close range, you will have shotgun that doesn't even shoot suspects, there is literary 0 but 0% chance to miss the shot on 1m distance on suspects with that no matter if you are moving and shooting or standing still, but guess what, game somehow always misses it

[crude prism]

literal skill issue

there are no hitreg issues in ba-sing-se

[crystal sierra]

Not at all, just terrible game mechanics, game is designed if you have the laser for example, bullet will literary go where laser is, so you can use it as an pointer for shooting without ADSing, For a beanbeg type of ,,shotgun" since it's single bullet fire, basiclly single bullet rifle, pretty much, you should not be able to miss overall. RoN have poor mechanic in terms of leaning for example, where it will completly mess up accuarcy no matter how you shoot, as well, You will get stuck by everything with that beanbag because it appears as an normal size gun but, pretty much model size is bigger then in appears to be, if you are miles away from cover, character will still rise gun above, stuff like that should never happen overall.

[crude prism]

you are aware that the lasers are offset to the barrel right?

[crystal sierra]

In reality yes, but in the game, bullet will go exacly where laser is no matter what, lol.

[crude prism]

no

[foggy zinc]

how it works is that a ray is effectiely cast from the laser and the barrel and provided the two meet at a designated point and onwards the bullet will go exactly where the laser is pointed, this is also how the simulate height-over-bore ingame

[crude prism]

also no

[foggy zinc]

dahek

explain smiley face man

[crude prism]

i can explain i a sec, in a game lol

[jolly verge]

Laser accuracy dont work when you adsing or canted, only hipfiring

[crude prism]

the laser/optic/barrel are always offset the same amount, and never intersect

effectively the lasers/optics are set to "true straight"

when the system is functioning properly, the lasers will be offset an inch or two from the actual point of impact, regardless of range

Unfortunately, there are also calculation errors related to the optics and lasers when you ADS/Canted ADS

see related bug report #1193328545498403027 message

[foggy zinc]

w h a t

im never using lasers or canted aiming again

my day is ruined because of this information

[crude prism]

if you watch the TLE vid I linked there, you're gonna get mad lul

attaching optics just BREAKS the laser alignment

[foggy zinc]

wtf did i just witness

so basically canted aiming should only be done with irons and all laser are useless

besides using IR to communicate with teammates or sumn bgjkwergjkerwgblkwergv

[crude prism]

yeah pretty much

[foggy zinc]

well thanks for the info

i will never be the same now tho

[prime wing]

once you know

its just hard to ignore shit like that

red lasers have been always kind of stupid anyways, but if it serves no use in the game or advantage

then why have it

[foggy zinc]

cuz it looked cool

[versed dune]

Better to have it than not I guess

[knotty ferry]

wait what

[crude prism]

to actively mislead the player of course

[foggy zinc]

spread misinformation

[prime wing]

its like if someone is giving you a piece of candy, which is aight but the not best, and you just notice that it has a razor on it.

Like

Aside from you trying to kill me, why bother

maybe the razor is not the best metaphor

[hardy plinth]

How do I chose a gun? They give you pretty much no information about each weapon

[prime wing]

AHHA

drop da link

[crude prism]

if you really want to know, there's a spreadsheet pinned in this chat

[foggy zinc]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1d89lpFDA9lo_v13iBlnhtuA6DvuUnKfPaeo0d4RBGJ4/edit#gid=1878248973 good source for info sponsored by @crude prism

[crude prism]

besides that, "good luck" lmao

[prime wing]

dont use smgs

i mean you can

[foggy zinc]

don't listen to this guy

smgs are fun but not always viable

[crude prism]

they could be viable too, but Void doesn't like fixing the ballistic system

[prime wing]

it would be fun if smgs gave you a speed boost

[foggy zinc]

2m 9mm damage fall off

[hardy plinth]

What's wrong with smg's?

[vestal mauve]

pistol calibers are shit against body armour

[foggy zinc]

lack of AP potential, and also a massive chance to burn though ammo fast

[hardy plinth]

It seemed to me like they have faster reload and are very compact

[crude prism]

.357 JHP, 7.62x39 JHP, 5.7x28 JHP still have 0% bleeding chance

[hardy plinth]

aah

[crude prism]

The entire suite of SMGs are nearly unusable because of disproportionately higher recoil than rifles

[vestal mauve]

the compactness doesnt really matter when the MK18 can handle indoors just fine unless you're wallhumping like you're playing Doom

[crude prism]

on top of being weak

[foggy zinc]

best smg is the TPL at this point

[crude prism]

quote me whining the other day:

Essentially, SMGs start with lower recoil per shot. But rifles get way more attachments that reduce recoil.

On ARs you can get up to -70% vertical recoil with attachments. That's 70 PERCENT

On SMGs, not a single one can get more than -20% vertical

Example:
Rifle with 5 vertical recoil and even a modest reduction of 50% is 2.5 recoil
Add the debuff of +3 for a total of 8 - 50% for 4

SMG with 3 vertical recoil at -20% for 2.4 recoil
Add the debuff of +3 for a total of 6 - 20% for 4.8
.
Once you start min maxxing for that 70%. A rifle WITH the debuff
8 - 70% = 2.4, lower than the SMG starting value

[foggy zinc]

watdahek

[vestal mauve]

which is insane because if you look at real life footage of the MP5 for instance, its barely moving in your hand

[crude prism]

I would say the #1 issue with SMGs is that the arm-injured debuff is the same for all weapons, but it's a flat increase so it feels WAY worse on SMGs, which is what I'm whining about above

[prime wing]

Yeah but, mah game balance

I dont know whats the root of all the inconsistencies ballistic wise

not sure if its a design or direction issue

not a dev

[crude prism]

whoever made the system hasn't touched in it forever and current people just don't care/don't know how to

[vestal mauve]

i want my TMP fixed

so i can pretend im playing perfect dark again

[prime wing]

i would think hiring people to work on the game means that stuff will get worked on

[crude prism]

thankfully hunter has listened and got a few things fixed recently, but like, I can't be the only person aware of these issues 🙃

[hardy plinth]

I don't really get why you would take the pepperball smg over the assault rifle

the reload is faster but you have way less ammo

[prime wing]

mfs complaining about AI when ballistics have been a shitshow all along 😭

[hardy plinth]

and it's not like you're constantly going around reloading like it's cod

[prime wing]

bean bag shotty is better

[crude prism]

paperdoll shows when your ceramic armor is broken now at least (only if all plates are destroyed)

headshot multipliers are fixed

bleeding health gaining was fixed

SWAT AI helmets are fixed so they don't die instantly anymore

[hardy plinth]

What's another good AR to use besides the MK18?

[vestal mauve]

F90 is my second fav, followed by the LVAR

[hardy plinth]

don't kill him guys

[foggy zinc]

G36 is very stable, you can't go wrong with any of them tbh, besides the SCAR, it kicks way too much and sounds like poo poo

[crude prism]

scar needs to be fixed or straight up removed from the roster

it's so gross

[river bluff]

there's as bad things as good in this fucking game

[vestal mauve]

use the beretta with the G36 for COD4 style

[foggy zinc]

Buffer tube stock

[hardy plinth]

Is the scar the mk16?

[crude prism]

ye

[foggy zinc]

yes

[prime wing]

why 5.56

[hardy plinth]

How is the SLR47?

[foggy zinc]

wdym

SLR is awesome lol

[tough spire]

I heard my love the SCAR mentioned

[prime wing]

SLR is, the baby scar is not

[foggy zinc]

i love it minus the goofy grip my operator goes

[foggy zinc]

we're trashing on the scar

[hardy plinth]

should I go combat or angled grip on it?

[prime wing]

ah ah stock

[tough spire]

What's wrong with it

[crude prism]

I love the REAL mk16 and mk17 hanging on the armory wall, the one we get to use is disgusting

[foggy zinc]

whatever you like most, combat grip is more operator

[hardy plinth]

[foggy zinc]

Too bouncy with the recoil and the gunshot SFXs are pee pee poo poo, the reloads animations are also very clunky and rough

[tough spire]

I run it for the rule of cool since all 5.56 are basically the same.

[crude prism]

bro who coated the scar in copper and then burnt it 🥲

[vestal mauve]

I want the AAC Honey Badger

[foggy zinc]

https://www.nexusmods.com/readyornot/mods/409 i wish it was 300 blk but this exists

[tough spire]

That's basically in it already

[foggy zinc]

if you're thinking the LVAR it isn't the same

speaking of LVAR i despise its goofy concealed suppressor look

[tough spire]

The integrated suppressor?

[foggy zinc]

yes

[tough spire]

Should make it the quietest

[onyx axle]

Why is just looking around such a frame killer?

[vestal mauve]

also the FN509 for real LAPD roleplaying hours

[foggy zinc]

wat

it shouldn't be a frame killer officer

[tough spire]

I was thinking the ARN-180

[onyx axle]

it appears that I judged too quickly and its just my entire game being weirdly shit

80fps with random drops to 7 my beloved

[vale tangle]

yo

[onyx axle]

Sand was never meant to think

[vale tangle]

I was just about to go out lol, maybe later today if I'm back

[hardy plinth]

Is battering ram ever useful?

or is it just funny

[true panther]

for the AI, they breach doors faster with the ram than the shotgun

[vestal mauve]

yes
it opens the door meaning a stacked team can immediately fire

[true panther]

I've also heard it reduces suspect morale while the breach shotgun increases it

[hardy plinth]

I usually play with my one friend so is it still useful there?

[tough spire]

Battering ram is low on the priority list of utility but it is nice to have

[hardy plinth]

Is it also possible those grenade launchers are very inconsistent?

Or even consistent in not working

[thorny warren]

lets go S rank on elephant with noswat, it wasn't that hard

also what is "coyote"? i thought that was a removed mission but there is still an achievement for it

[stone bay]

Hey has anyone else been crashing lately while loading ?

Specially on Multiplayer ?

[bright valley]

Rust Belt

[stone bay]

Cause i just cant play the game at this point

[thorny warren]

ty

so i gotta do it with just a revolver, i can still have armor and other stuff though, i think thats what the achievement says

[tough spire]

To save you some sanity: Your bots can do whatever, you just can't command them. You have to use only revolver no gear.

[thorny warren]

rn im doing the second map with only a revolver, no armor, no helmet and noswat just for fun

[tough spire]

Heck yes. Playin' after my own heart.

[thorny warren]

without gloves i feel like a cowboy

[hardy plinth]

why does hair look like ass for me

[tough spire]

Try a comb

[thorny warren]

or better yet, a plastic bottle and a cork

[hardy plinth]

bro I've been washing every month

how is this my fault

[tough spire]

month 💀

[native rune]

Leave bro alone bathing water is hard to come by in flint Michigan

[thorny warren]

since i got S rank in 6 missions so far i think i can challenge myself a bit

i alr did the first map with only a taser, either yesterday or a few days ago

[remote flame]

Only have two S ranks left to complete all of them... surprisingly college mission is very difficult to get xD cultists was super difficult too

[thorny warren]

i just did the college one and it was pretty easy

[tough spire]

S on Elephant is 90% luck of spawns

[remote flame]

yup, and holyshit theyre talking about spring DLC LOL that better be free for EVERYONE, considering the state of the ai and bugs

[crystal sierra]

That's nothing compared to Relapse S dif. Enemies have mag size of 100, with ARs, literary never run out of bullet to reload, i don't even want to talk about the fact they can literary one shot every each one of your NPC teammates overall, C2 doesn't work on them, nothing does,

[tough spire]

I had no trouble with relapse

You can CS everything = win

[crystal sierra]

No fucking way, i'm literary getting blasted every time i try anything, just now, i had situation where i placed them to C2 + Gas morgue duble door, in that moment, NPC came out of that exact room and immidetly killed 2 of mine with 1 bullet, no time to react overall.

[tough spire]

I can tell you up front there's no good reason to C2 a door unless it is imminently threatened.

[crystal sierra]

Morgue is pretty much hell to clear overall, 2 rooms, usually 2 suspects always inside, even if you try to either Gas or flash them, NPCs will just throw flashes in front of the door, or overall very close, room is big and suspects will pretty much not be affected. 😅

[tough spire]

The Morgue is definitely the worst, but... gas gas gas.

When in doubt - more gas

[crystal sierra]

Yes, gas gas gas and, again, they will not be affected cuz, NPCs literary smoke only the entrance, they open it and smoke doors itself, not the room

[tough spire]

If your AI are throwing short, you throw long with them

[crystal sierra]

Pretty much instant dead when i try that, relapse suspects are a way more precise then Port Hokaan ones tbh.

[tough spire]

Hate to say it but.... Skill issue

[crystal sierra]

Running Full heavy armor + steel, being shreeded every fucking time.

[tough spire]

I only run Light with Ceramic

[native rune]

Steel armor is ass ngl I’d rather eat some rounds here and there and take no damage than constantly getting drained by spall

No reason to ever take Kevlar

[inland wolf]

do flashbangs count as friendly fire?????

my S rank car dealer just got ruined by two counts of apparent FF

[crude prism]

yeah you can ruin runs with flashbang FF

[inland wolf]

bruh

thats stupid as hell

[crude prism]

yep

[foggy zinc]

only light armour user in the entire RON community

[native rune]

I really hate grenade friendly fire rules

[inland wolf]

whatever ill just tell them to wait until i toss the bang

[hardy plinth]

What's FF?

[inland wolf]

friendly fire

[foggy zinc]

friendly fire

[tough spire]

Seriously? It's the best balance

[hardy plinth]

ooh

I've been playing without AI

[inland wolf]

preach 🙏

[hardy plinth]

so doesn't happen to me lol

[inland wolf]

that doesnt count towards achieve then

[tough spire]

Stab vest blows and I want them slots.

[inland wolf]

i have to redo all my S rank runs

[hardy plinth]

Does stab vest do anything against bullets?

[crude prism]

nop

[inland wolf]

not even 9?

[crude prism]

no

[native rune]

Me when the stab vest I brought to the gun fight doesn’t stop bullets :0

[hardy plinth]

I'm gonna assume then there's a mission where there are no guns
and all enemies have knives instead?...

[inland wolf]

how can i trigger combat music @crude prism

[native rune]

Not even close

[inland wolf]

meth house is the closest you'll get to that

and only like 10% have knives

[hardy plinth]

does a ceramic vest do anything against knives?

[crude prism]

bold of you to assume that the stab vest reduces damage from knives or melee at all

(it doesn't)

[hardy plinth]

you're not gonna tell me that...

[native rune]

Void moment

[crude prism]

no armor has any reduction on melee

[hardy plinth]

Oh dear God this game really is worse off than I thought

[inland wolf]

ya new?

[hardy plinth]

Seriously how can you fuck up this badly

[native rune]

First time?

[shy tulip]

Maybe don't get stabbed, that's a good start

Bring nova

[dense quest]

I've never been stabbed in this game

[shy tulip]

^

[dense quest]

does it oneshot you?

[shy tulip]

No it's like a 2-3 hit kinda thing

[inland wolf]

bleed

[shy tulip]

First hit is really disorienting though

[dense quest]

I see

I was punched before by amos' wife

[bright valley]

Stab vest is basically just a stand-in for going all in on storage in exchange for protection. The "No Armor" option is new and pretty much just an RP/challenge thing.

[shy tulip]

I can see the shield guy using it for maxium slots

But then again why would the shield guy need slots if he's just gonna use the shield

I don't think having the shield guy flash probably is the best use of resources

[bright valley]

Pistols have lower ammo capacity, I suppose.

[crude prism]

just have everyone use a compatible ammo type and then the shield guy brings only mags and just drops them for you at the start

[shy tulip]

Idk, I feel like in a good squad you'd never take out the pistol and expose yourself, but I've had to do it plenty of times

[crude prism]

since you can carry over the slot amount once in game

[shy tulip]

https://tenor.com/view/wheatley-slap-portal-gif-15252884

Honestly that's not a bad idea though

But where do they store the extra mags if not on their armor pouches. . .

[bright valley]

Going to bring back up my shitpost of "duffel bag" for tons of slots but no protection and the mobility of full steel lol

[crude prism]

the same plcae u store the extra glocks for evidence planting

[bright valley]

No need, the suspect definitely has an extra glock or three.

[inland wolf]

me wedging every single door so suspects cannot leave the area and eventually starve to death :

[bright valley]

the george m incident

[near schooner]

too real

[tough spire]

#🎨ron-screenshots-and-art message

[inland wolf]

THERES 20 FUCKING SUSPECTS ON CEASARS

[bright valley]

I actually wasn't referring to that but that's hilariously topical.

[onyx axle]

The door locks in this game are really bullet proof, what brand?

[bright valley]

Breaching shotgun begs to differ.

[remote flame]

27 on the last one lol

[inland wolf]

we

really need a way to see all penalties

mid match

im like 90% sure i just flashbanged my team and got an FF penalty

[hardy plinth]

What's the best weapon to use with shield?

[foggy zinc]

Fiveseven 100%

[hardy plinth]

the magnum is nice but the ammo size is low and you lose all ammo in the clip on a tactical reload

[foggy zinc]

highest mag capacity of all pistols and has huge AP potential

magnum is for asserting dominance and preferably without the shield

[hardy plinth]

would be cool if you could use shield and taser

I don't see why not honestly

[earnest quail]

Who want's to start a unit with me, if so? DM me

[inland wolf]

bring back taser secondary 😭

my stupid ass AI keep dying

[native rune]

Mfw everyone was asking for the taser to be moved to the slot section before 1.0

[tough spire]

I like it as a utility slot I just need a damn LTL secondary for shields and bots.

[inland wolf]

they probably kept pulling it out while trying to use their lethal secondary

[bright valley]

IIRC it was more that players were pointing out that it was unrealistic for an officer to forgo their service pistol for a taser.

[hardy plinth]

https://imgur.com/a/zpoL8mO

why does hair look like this

even on medium graphics

[bright valley]

God the AI SWAT really can't understand a single thing about Rust Belt, can they?

[native rune]

They really do be treating every open door threshold as a game of frogger

[bright valley]

"Open and Clear"
"Flank and Clear? You got it."

[native rune]

Open and clear?
Lemme walk backwards and circumnavigate the map real quick

[bright valley]

"Stack Up on these double doors"
"No, just no lol"

[native rune]

Arrest them, cuff em, arrest arrest arrest arrest arr a a are—

[shut cliff]

free money??
and ive seen that issue in games ngl, hair just not rendering properly even when graphics maxed out (RDR2 as an example)

[bright valley]

bruh this guy just solo cleared a completely different room while his partner stayed still by the door, didn't even take a weird indirect route to get into the correct space, literally neither officer entered the space they were ordered to clear.

this is so frustrating lol

[shut cliff]

built diff

[native rune]

Close that door
“Closing it” stands there and does nothing

Clear those stairs
Lemme group up at the top of them and call it a day

[bright valley]

sometimes they use the force to close the door from like 15 feet away. i mean, task successfully completed i guess lmao

[daring flame]

it just works

[native rune]

This lol