👮ron-discussion

[willow glen]

Which is why having only 2 QA is a problem

[pearl shuttle]

RoN was 100% developed using Blueprints FYI

[spring knoll]

to be frank i like the AI as it is right now, i've had very little problems with em

[brittle sable]

nah how tf do you use ai on blueprints

[crude prism]

Whoever wrote the original ballistic system/gunplay is irrefutably long gone because there are so many outstanding issues that whoever made it should've fixed eons ago

[upbeat wadi]

exactly
and i dont think there's too many devs either

[stone bay]

Whats Blueprints

[pearl shuttle]

Lmao

[spring knoll]

o

[brittle sable]

look it up
unreal blueprints
it looks like an actual pain in the ass

[upbeat wadi]

really? everyone says the spread and accuracy and shit has improved vastly in hotfix 3

[stone bay]

An API or smthn?

[crude prism]

That's for the suspects, nothing has changed for players

[upbeat wadi]

no, for players

[pearl shuttle]

For a guy who speaks very confidently about your knowledge on game dev the fact that you don't know what Blueprints are says a lot lol

[crude prism]

They're just incorrect. The game has never had spread or accuracy for players lmao

[slender adder]

#👮ron-discussion moment tbh

[upbeat wadi]

what do you mean by that

[stone bay]

I dont think i have a knowledge but theres no way a tester wouldnt have noticed the big ass thing blocking spectators view

[upbeat wadi]

at the firing range there definitely IS spread

[crude prism]

All guns fire 100% straight and dead accurate hitscan except for shotguns with buckshot

[stone bay]

Literally one single play through on multiplayer would have spotted that

[pearl shuttle]

Spread and accuracy values affect AI

[crude prism]

You're smoking crack if you think this game has bullet spread like cod

[pearl shuttle]

RoN is good but it should have CSGO-like gunplay

[spring knoll]

i'd frankly rather they focus on visually touching up their maps than stressing out over AI rn cause i think they're in a decent place, haven't really suffered any bs at all as of the latest patch
i think the AI art covered room in carriers of the vine might be the most immersion breaking thing ive ever seen

[frail quartz]

What does that mean?

[upbeat wadi]

that's kinda how it happens in real life too, the thing is your barrell is gonna be in slightly different spots with every shot and that's where the spread comes from

[stone bay]

I think recoil pattern are a rlly cool feature in general and alot of games should use the concept

[pearl shuttle]

CSGO has very noticeable recoil and spray patterns

[upbeat wadi]

this game doesnt fire your bullets out of the middle of your screen like cod

[stone bay]

There definitely should not be running and gunning though

[brittle sable]

i actually disagree but im going to leave that behind for a sec
that wouldnt end up being a top priority thing to get fixed
its likely something that you put down as "hotfix 99 after no one has massive complaints about other stuff in the game"

[upbeat wadi]

they come out the actual barrel of your gun

[pearl shuttle]

Running and gunning is fine if you're rescuing a hostage tbh

[crude prism]

Just because there is height over bore does not mean there is bullet spread or 'accuracy' the fuck

[pearl shuttle]

Feel like this discourse originated from a misunderstanding lmao

[brittle sable]

as most do here
its an interesting discussion tho so we roll with it

[stone bay]

Running and gunning js only viable if your skilled enough to do it without breaking technique

[willow glen]

What was that one video

[upbeat wadi]

fuck's sake fine, more controllable recoil would be the more correct term here i suppose

[brittle sable]

the CAG training one?

[pearl shuttle]

Yeah that's what units that specialize in hostage rescue do

[upbeat wadi]

happy now

[vestal mauve]

white phosphor for Clean House vibes

[stone bay]

For the most part you should be slow and methodical. Even in hostage rescues, there suppressed weapons for a reason

[willow glen]

Where the message was “screw proper stuff like that to an extent if you have a time sensitive issue”

[willow glen]

Yes I think

[inland wolf]

anyone know the criteria for Hanged Man?

[brittle sable]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_wJBVBf2bE

[pearl shuttle]

Hostage rescues tend to be a bit more dynamic since the rescuers have to be pretty quick. The part that takes the longest is the negotiation phase IIRC

[willow glen]

No it had a really sexy title

[brittle sable]

mehhhh
slow and methodical works up to a point
sometimes fast is fast and slow is slow

[pearl shuttle]

Yeah that CAG video is cool but a lot of hostage rescues tend to be over pretty quickly... if they're successful

[stone bay]

I havent played any hostage missions yet

[willow glen]

It was a training vid tho

[stone bay]

Is there a negotiation phase?

[pearl shuttle]

No I'm talking about real life

[brittle sable]

canonically yes
ingame no

[crude prism]

can confirm nothing in the player arsenal changed with patch 3

[stone bay]

Oh

[pearl shuttle]

Closest parallel in this game is Elephant

Since the suspects will start shooting civvies after a set amount of time

[upbeat wadi]

damn that's a dope video right there

[inland wolf]

can i make my swat AI use non lethals for hanged man

[pearl shuttle]

Those role players are slacking tbh

[brittle sable]

lmfao bungers been getting ignored for like 20 minutes

[pearl shuttle]

Based

[inland wolf]

i can complete the game if i do these two achievements

[brittle sable]

yeah you can give the ai less lethal afaik

[inland wolf]

i did half my S Ranks in multiplayer though

[night pasture]

Oh they don’t need non lethal for hang man only you so they can use lethal weapons but not you basically if I remember correctly

So let them clear everything

[inland wolf]

i want to kill two birds with one stone, Hanged man + Port S rank

[night pasture]

Ooo

[inland wolf]

and i can use shield to bash?

[brittle sable]

they probably are slacking at least a little but that dude was fast as fuck it probably would have worked somewhat well

[inland wolf]

or will long tac disqualify me

[night pasture]

Pfff idfk getting those two at the same time will be such a pain

[brittle sable]

i think you can use long tac

[inland wolf]

i have a lot of skills built up from dealing with crack sniffing AI, i think i can handle it

the issue is getting my teammates to not die

[pearl shuttle]

Give them ceramic full coverage with heavy armor and they'll be fine

[inland wolf]

yeah they all have that by default with my non lethal loadout

[willow glen]

I personally cover the idiots in steel

Cause they’re dumb

As all fuck

[inland wolf]

my guys get shot in the limbs more than they do the chest

[willow glen]

But if they have the time to aim pretty effective

[stone bay]

Differenxe is these are delta force they are masters of the footwork

[willow glen]

Survivorship bias moment

[inland wolf]

when my officers die its only because they stop firing

or get hit in said limbs too many times

[stone bay]

You can only go so fast untill you start to break technique and take risks, thats your limit

[pearl shuttle]

Your local county sheriff's office probably does more hostage rescues than the average Delta squadron

[stone bay]

Your joking

[tawdry nymph]

anyone wanna squad up for the hospital ?

[willow glen]

Hence giving them the armour I do

[pearl shuttle]

No

[brittle sable]

#🔎looking-for-players

[tawdry nymph]

ok

[upbeat wadi]

i think hostage situations are usually like this, basically:

everyone stays put til the negotiator arrives;
negotiator chats the bad guys up with the sole intent of wasting their time as much as possible, that's literally what they're trained to do;
meanwhile snipers set up, blueprints are looked up, as much recon as possible is done without letting the bad guys see it, etc;
a plan is formulated, maybe rehearsed once or twice if there's time;
entry team is deployed and the bad guys are dropped or cuffed mid-word as they're telling the negotiator what their favorite burger is at mcdonald's

[pearl shuttle]

Police deal with a lot of hostage situations lol

[stone bay]

Theres no way to really tell since 90% of CAG operations are classified

[brittle sable]

god discussions about this stuff could be 20x better if classified documents didnt exist

[stone bay]

But insurgents and terrorists rlly like taking hostages and doing executions

[upbeat wadi]

another thing they love to do is pretend they're agreeing with the bad guys' demands, then as soon as the hostages are safe and the bad guys are out of their hidey holes, boom

[pearl shuttle]

It's probably very likely that your average police tactical team does more hostage rescues than any JSOC unit does

[willow glen]

No! Bad war thunder player!

[upbeat wadi]

but i guess you'd have to be a pretty stupid terrorist to fall for that

[stone bay]

Maybe in metropolitan areas

[pearl shuttle]

Hostage rescues meaning "some guy is holding up his girlfriend with a glock"

[robust spire]

guys

[brittle sable]

guy

[stone bay]

MAYBE

[robust spire]

how much space does RoN take up?

im getting it tonight

[pearl shuttle]

I don't think Delta's op tempo is that high lol

[upbeat wadi]

more like "some guy is out of control and armed; his girlfriend is in the same house"

[stone bay]

And also this, a hostage situation in the US is not nearly as difficult as a hostage situation in the middle east

[brittle sable]

by my count 60GB but i run mods

[upbeat wadi]

60 gigs

[willow glen]

“And we believe he might harm his girlfriend”

[willow glen]

You see tho

[brittle sable]

ehhhh that might be more of a domestic

[robust spire]

alright thanks

[stone bay]

In the middle east your clearing out an entire compound and saving like 5 dudes in a locked and barricaded basement

[willow glen]

When facing the US military

[upbeat wadi]

i think they just assume that usually

[pearl shuttle]

This one is cool since there's barely any combat in the video lmao https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wf2IQp6Sjko

[willow glen]

You are gonna successfully take hostages a lot less

[upbeat wadi]

not an accomplice means hostage

[willow glen]

Hence less hostage rescue missions

Meanwhile any dude can get drunk or high or just go off the edge and hold up his girlfriend with a gun

[upbeat wadi]

hey not any dude ok

i dont have a gun or a girlfriend

[pearl shuttle]

Obviously if I was taken hostage I'd rather a fed tactical team rescue me than my local county SWAT

Though if that fed team is FISA... hmm

[upbeat wadi]

why? they have the same training

more or less

and a swat team will respond much much faster

[pearl shuttle]

I'd much rather HRT rescue me than my local county SWAT lol

[willow glen]

Might a fed team be of people who had other prior stuff too?

So perhaps more skilled

[pearl shuttle]

^

[willow glen]

Yeah for time I wouldn’t want them to wait unless it was a helluva job

And waiting was an option

[pearl shuttle]

HRT flew from Quantico to Texas during the Colleyville hostage crisis at a synagogue

[willow glen]

Yeah if they’re negotiating why not fly out the feds

[pearl shuttle]

You absolutely do want competent people doing hostage rescue otherwise you get shit like the Manila bus hostage crisis

[willow glen]

I would want that

[prime mural]

Isn't hrt just the best of the federal swat teams?

[upbeat wadi]

Some higher-profile cases include the Waco siege;

yeah sounds like they're not always perfect lmao

[willow glen]

ATF are kinda…

[pearl shuttle]

Tbf it's been years since Waco lol

[willow glen]

Like the FBI does fucked shit like ruby sometimes but that was pure incompetence and yeah it was a while ago

[upbeat wadi]

oh boy ruby ridge was them too

[pearl shuttle]

Hostage Roasting Team

[willow glen]

Yeah but that was kinda just them being shitheads

[pearl shuttle]

To be fair they actually rescue hostages nowadays so they live up to their names

[upbeat wadi]

yeah i can believe that

[willow glen]

Knowingly doing fucky things rather than bad handling

Like approaching a kid in full ghille

[upbeat wadi]

it's just a real scary thought that these guys may have been your best bet in the 90s, and that's what happened when they got called

[willow glen]

Being surprised when he raises a gun or such

And caps him immediately

[willow glen]

Again

If they were called to your hostage rescue

[craggy yew]

my favorite part of any clean up yelling for civs

[upbeat wadi]

GIDDUN ANNAGRUN

[pearl shuttle]

In most cases I think the local FBI field office would deploy their SWAT team if the Feds had to get involved

[cursive sky]

Does anyone know if swat ai will still beanbag suspects in the face

[upbeat wadi]

not on purpose

ive run all beanbag squads, it was ok except i got dropped by like the last methhead in 213 three times in a row

[umbral oar]

they definitely dont

[upbeat wadi]

in bullshit ways too

[cursive sky]

in the past they have beanbagged in the face

but not sure after this new patch

[upbeat wadi]

watch out for their secondary weapon shit though

[umbral oar]

yeah they dont anymore

[upbeat wadi]

that did happen to me

[pearl shuttle]

Wish we could unequip secondaries tbh

[upbeat wadi]

yeah, or if they added some non lethal secondary

[pearl shuttle]

Anyone else stop equipping their squad AI with shields? Feel like they look cooler clearing without one

[white goblet]

ai no helmet issue fixed?

[pearl shuttle]

Game kinda too easy right now tbh

[craggy yew]

fuck Voll he an opp fr fr

[upbeat wadi]

i tried running the shield once, either i couldnt figure out how to do it well or it's just not a very effective piece of equipment

[cursive sky]

im struggling for S for neon tomb

any tips?

[pearl shuttle]

Theoretically it's meant to draw fire to the guy wielding it

In practice it just slows down the entry since the shield dude has to make his way to the front lol

[upbeat wadi]

yeah and it did but the result was i kinda got my ass kicked

[pearl shuttle]

Also I feel like the AI are way better at entering rooms without a shield

Like they actually pie doors and shit

[upbeat wadi]

they're not great at it shield or no shield

[pearl shuttle]

They're pretty good in my experience

They should really stop and engage any threats before moving on though, that kills them half the time

[upbeat wadi]

my hypothesis is they are in some rooms but not in others because their paths and shit havent been touched in 19 years for those

but where it's been redone based on QA and/or player feedback, it works just fine

[pearl shuttle]

Really depends on the level design

They work really well in the SWAT 4 remake custom maps for example

And they're largely just autogenerated lol

[upbeat wadi]

e.g. they were surprisingly good at the tunnel bit on 213, i fully expected them to get slaughtered or just get lost like the dumb bots they are

nope, 3 methheads, all dropped

[pearl shuttle]

Give some of the SWAT 4 maps a try, they shine there

[brittle sable]

yeah they somehow run better than the actual maps

[pearl shuttle]

I swear it's the level design, SWAT 4's map design amplifies the AI's strengths

[upbeat wadi]

but then there's this other room where you got the front door on your left as you enter, a long hallway on your right that ends with another door, a smaller hallway at your 2 oclock with 3 doors, and on the righthand side of the long hallway there's a smashed up wall and a kitchen behind it

they're AWFUL at that room

[pearl shuttle]

Yeah RoN has some poopy level design tbh

[upbeat wadi]

nah the design there is great, it's that these meatheads cant handle it

[brittle sable]

i mean no some of it is nice but RoN doesnt lean into the nice cqb design

[craggy yew]

hey ive only got lost in the mayan tunnels twice

[robust spire]

this game's like payday 2 but if you played as the swat tbh

[upbeat wadi]

im pretty sure there basically was no AI in swat 4, every single room and approach angle was pre scripted

to at least some extent

[pearl shuttle]

Not quite pre-scripted but the entries definitely were pre-defined by the map makers

Which has its strengths... and its faults

[upbeat wadi]

yeah and they had waypoints for sure

[half atlas]

this game is the best

[craggy yew]

Guys how spin on schools with bean bag shotgun?

[pearl shuttle]

SWAT 3 just generated them at runtime because 90s devs were insane

Okay not quite at runtime but they usually generated room clearing plans on the fly

[upbeat wadi]

wait did it just autoblock my message for the wh word?

what is this a nunnery

if i remember right swat 1 and maybe 2 were actual adventure games

never got around to checking out how the hell THAT works

[pearl shuttle]

SWAT 1 was an FMV game

[upbeat wadi]

oh boo

fuck that then, very much

[pearl shuttle]

Played it as a kid. Coolest part was the fully simulated sniping section lol

[upbeat wadi]

and 2?

[pearl shuttle]

Funnily enough, an RTS

[upbeat wadi]

damn they really werent afraid to experiment

wait i just realized

you know the meme about sierra adventure games?

how they love to let you fuck yourself by not doing something specific or doing it in the wrong way etc., and you never even know until you discover that the game is unfinishable now 4 hours later?

well i just realized they did swat 4 too and yeah, oh yeah i can see it now

[pearl shuttle]

That was more of a Visceral Games project, the guys behind Bioshock

[upbeat wadi]

the goddamn hotel bomb mission, that's sierra to a t

[pearl shuttle]

SWAT 3 was the last SWAT game developed by an internal Sierra team

[willow glen]

If they were called to your hostage rescue

[upbeat wadi]

hm
scanned the wiki page, it mentions they did dead space and some battlefield entries

[pearl shuttle]

I meant Irrational Games lol

[upbeat wadi]

okay yeah irrational

[craggy yew]

fellas how many opps are on elephant?

[upbeat wadi]

cant find any info on who the lead designer was

Ethan Gach, writing an early review for Kotaku, called Ready or Not a "tactical horror game" and "an unsettling SWAT fantasy", praising its atmosphere but also criticizing it as tasteless due to insensitivity towards police brutality and jarring tonal shifts between crude humor and dark drama. Gach also unfavorably highlighted apparent references to alt-right memes such as redpill and the use of "Jogger" as a racist euphemism (in reference to Ahmaud Arbery).

ayyyyy lmao fuckin kotaku

their process seems to legit be like, launch the game and go "hmmmm how is THIS one racist"

[brittle sable]

3 or 4?

[craggy yew]

got jumped by half of them first try

shotgun didn't do jack

[upbeat wadi]

Random bystanders have only a few recorded lines they’ll bark at you at the moment, one of which is, “My mom has a Mexican maid, you might know her.”

okay is that one true

[craggy yew]

This is the most stressful s rank

Big ass campus

[glacial kestrel]

Is RoN unstable for anyone else in single player I can’t play dx11 because the frames are everywhere but I can play on dx12 with getting an average of 60fps however when I turn my character the fps just tanks, my gpu is a rx 6600

[craggy yew]

2 minutes to clear an entire campus is hard af

[brittle sable]

i swear you get more than 2 minutes

my first civ kill happened at like 5 minutes in, maybe cause i took out one of the guys before

[craggy yew]

fuck the beanbag shotgun

tf is its range

went from sniping to horrible

Stressful ass challenge

[brittle sable]

theyre wearing plates beanbags not very good

[upbeat wadi]

dx12 works much better for me
this game's engine seems to need some sort of "cache" for... shaders, textures? dunno

basically first time you're in a location, it's gonna stutter like fuck for a while when you move around the map and new stuff is loaded

but once that's over it's smooth sailing

that's how it was for me anyway

[brittle sable]

first 5 seconds of precinct suck ass

then its chill

[inland wolf]

what is the criteria for Hanged man

i completed it fully nonlethal but got a single penalty

(yes i used taser bash and bang)

[craggy yew]

almost had it🙃

coward was in a classroom

[inland wolf]

i have no idea what im doing wrong

[craggy yew]

What’s up?

[ruby bloom]

buger

burger

[tight frigate]

burjer

[acoustic ridge]

theres a civillian somewhere on the spider, already tried search and secure, im pretty sure i have entered all the rooms

[brittle sable]

could be hiding in closets or beds

[craggy yew]

keep spamming F

echolocation

#🎨ron-screenshots-and-art why do you guys think that elephant's box is unique?

[vestal mauve]

Open every door
Spam F
Make your team search and secure

[tawny scroll]

sEarCh tHe aReA

[astral warren]

Can someone explain why 10mm is in the game when its performance is LITERALLY identical to .45 as far as htk is concerned they perform identically in every situation except shooting tier 2 armour or l3a on sullivan's slope?

[tacit gull]

It supposedly represents an officer working on the case that lost a son or daughter in the campus level, however it's on every single box and feels a bit forced

[astral warren]

Just like the game's humour. "Hey guiz, wouldn't it be funny if I put a swear word at the end of the text I wrote for this asset people probably won't look at?"

[brittle sable]

what

[willow glen]

I think they would handle it competently as they’re not making shitty setups

[tacit gull]

.45 with infinitely worse recoil

Kind of a shame they didn't add a bren ten or any other 10mm handgun

[glacial kestrel]

Is there any preloading options, I know sounds can tank performance with some engines

[brittle sable]

why not? they probably decided based on guns, not caliber

[tacit gull]

Have you tried running the game from the binaries folder in the game files? It seems to reduce stutters atleast for me

[bold solstice]

How do I bring out the taser after equipping it into my loadout?

[astral warren]

press 2 while holding secondary or press 4 until you cycle to it.

If you want it more easily accessible if you set all of your short tac equipment to 0 and then add the taser first it should come up as soon as you press 4

[inland wolf]

they said AI not completing mission was fixed,

my entire squad is standing around doing nothing

[astral warren]

Also random idea to make crouch walking actually useful: Make it so that moving while crouched with shift held keeps your head at the level it would be if you were to crouch while still.

[bold solstice]

Thanks!

[astral warren]

yw

[bold solstice]

Yes, I had that too.

[limber jungle]

@tough spire @hexed granite @cursive sky @wintry lotus ty very much

[glossy stirrup]

Is not being ready finally fair?

[tough spire]

Hmmmm?

[limber jungle]

.

[brittle tiger]

this

[wintry lotus]

your welcome for whatever I did

oh ya

[brittle tiger]

tactical horror kinda encapsulates RON

[bold solstice]

Also, is that a bug that sometimes I just can't interact with doors or people because there is no interaction prompt to cuff people or open/close doors?

[wintry lotus]

I've got a few dozen hours solo

[tacit gull]

You can also hold 2 and scroll up to select it

[glossy stirrup]

Did void finally fix the SUSpects?

[bold solstice]

It's silly to the point I have to order my squad to do almost everything even if I'm in the position to do so myself.

[tacit gull]

Not really, they just lowered their accuracy and now their bullets dont magically phase through walls anymore

[glossy stirrup]

Sounds fixed to me

Ive been looking at recent footage and they dont seem tk have terminator reaction time anymore too

[prime mural]

Their accuracy could use some work tbh

[umbral oar]

do you guys think they pull knives less?

[tacit gull]

They have a bigger surrender timer now so yes

They no longer pull again after surrendering for literally 8 seconds

[tawny scroll]

is there RON merch

[upbeat wadi]

the copaganda power fantasy urge to shoot those indecisive assholes when they take too long surrendering

look pal it aint rocket science, drop gun hands up

we got places to be

[umbral oar]

i would rock a carcosa shirt

[misty snow]

Did the patches fix the ai issues? Haven’t tested it yet

[inland wolf]

anyone know if trailers will take unreported sus/civs?

im soft locked from S completion on port and ive been searching for 20 minutes to no avail

[static relic]

AP or JHP on the sa-58

[inland wolf]

bro

ive just wasted 40 minutes of my life doing this stupid mission and not getting the badge

didnt even get an S rank for fuck sake

nvm it counted but

hanged man is so picky

the split millisecond that my AI had his multitool out probably destroyed my run

[robust spire]

does anyone know if this game needs you to unlock customization yourself or no

[upbeat wadi]

see that's exactly why i dropped the S rank autism almost immediately

just say no

[upbeat wadi]

cosmetics yes, weapons/attachments/equipment no

[robust spire]

is there a thing that unlocks the cosmetics or no

[upbeat wadi]

mods yeah

[robust spire]

good

[inland wolf]

kind of cant when its the only thing left for you to do

(i beat half of the S ranks PRE AI update)

sorry all except for port

[upbeat wadi]

oh, godspeed then

[tawny scroll]

imagine we can get S with lethals

[inland wolf]

you can theoretically, its just insanely difficult

no incaps and no deaths

[spring knoll]

i don’t think so?

it always caps at B if you lethal

the point system is wack and i think elephant proves it

it doesn’t even list down civilian incaps but it just denies you your S if a shooter has shot a civ

[inland wolf]

you just shoot them in the toes until they surrender

[spring knoll]

oh

[inland wolf]

S rank is keeping all suspects alive and no penalties

[spring knoll]

well yeah

[inland wolf]

if they incap/die : no S

[spring knoll]

i see what you mean

[robust spire]

im gonna be stuck waiting because this game wont freaking install

[cunning leaf]

4 trillion gb download

[robust spire]

true

[upbeat wadi]

what does oce coop stand for? in the voice chats section

[tough spire]

Oceanic - regional

[upbeat wadi]

oh thanks

why's there seven trillion of those though

oh cause the devs are kiwis

[molten finch]

Devs are Irish I thought

Ireland based I just googled

[slender adder]

based? based on what?

[tough spire]

based in

[dreamy garden]

Is swat not allowed shields on hanged man?

or likeare you penalized for holding your primary out for .3 seconds

I've done it four times with varying things and it's just not giving me the achievement

Never used a tac equip

flash only

No multitool, no normal equipment

same for swat, besides a shield

7x3 cartridges 8 flash

First tried the mission too

[inland wolf]

same

[dreamy garden]

Im pretty sure there is no place that the requirements are stated either

I've even tried copying a loadout from a youtube video guide on it for the hell of it

same result, nothing

[tawny scroll]

🫵🏽🤨 all my fellas

have tyr tactical available on RON

https://www.tyrtactical.com/product-category/plate-carriers-and-vests/

[dreamy garden]

Or are they not allowed to arrest anyone? no securing evidence? no search and secure?

[inland wolf]

im sick and tired of doing the same fucking mission over and over again

for a bullshit achievement that doesnt even specify its criteria

[uncut schooner]

Is it me or are people just sitting afk with a macro to keep their mic active to play religious stuff or YT videos over the mic instead of just playing the game

[brittle sable]

its not just u
theres been tons of discussion about that guy

[uncut schooner]

well its not just 1 guy there have been at least 3 lobbies now with 3 different people doing the same thing

[tawny scroll]

check my yt channel •~•

https://youtu.be/Q3JtXxrmCN0?si=xHZ72HoP2sr89_JF
apparently its now my most viewed non-short vid 😱😱😱

he found me 💀💀💀

[bright valley]

man's on a quest to singlehandedly make the case against freedom of speech

[uncut schooner]

No that’s not my problem my problem is that he’s just not playing the game I was just detailed about the pattern that I noticed the offenders afk in a lobby not playing the game

[bright valley]

i'm talking about the guy doing the afk preaching

not you

[prime wing]

best option to find good lobbies is by connecting with people here

[uncut schooner]

That’s the same guy I ran into there’s another that goes by Ezekiel and some numbers after that but yeah that’s wild I mean respect for him to do what he’s doing but in the same sense let’s just play the game lol he would get his point across in COD better then RoN

[prime wing]

until we get server menus and stuff like that

[inland wolf]

on my 6th attempt now to get Hanged man

all of the information conflicts with each other

im using the most absolute bare bones loadout

nothing works

loadout : #🎨ron-screenshots-and-art message

nothing works

all flash

[tough spire]

Are you doing in practice mode or what

[inland wolf]

yes

is that an issue

[tough spire]

I don't think so

[inland wolf]

you'd have to be a psycho to do it in commander

even a guide from one month ago didnt work

[dreamy garden]

fat chance is, we arent allowed to issue commands to ai

[inland wolf]

as long as the player has only a taser, flashbangs it should give an achievement

but it just doesnt because fuck you!

[dreamy garden]

and no face mask

or nvgs, or any sort of tactical, or a primary, or a secondary

[inland wolf]

if arresting suspects by yourself voids it

i give up on the achievement

[dreamy garden]

And no one can tell because its not listed anywhere!

[tough spire]

Is it like the Way Out West where you can't issue AI commands either?

[inland wolf]

lol i passed that easily

i just made sure they all had no tac

[olive idol]

why does Brian Greer have the 1000 yard stare, jesus christ

[granite hornet]

Yo just a question does the game get repetitive that much that it’s boring ? And what abt the ai

[glossy stirrup]

Man i just realised they removed the cool gas station combat music in 1.0

It also played in the hospital i think

[glossy stirrup]

Once you completed all the missions there really isnt much else to do besides trying for S rank

[inland wolf]

it plays during Ceasars car dealership in commander mode

[glossy stirrup]

There used to be multiple game modes for all the maps but they removed them for "muh narrative reasons" so now its all barricaded suspects

[patent vortex]

the game is not really repetitive, you have a limit of maps but the placement of ai's has multiple versions, and how you take the raid , the reactions are differents
for exemple in "mindjot" if you wedge all door to get out, before rush , they are considerably more agressive by the fact they can not flank

[thorny warren]

i don't understand the descriptions very well for armor composition.
it says steel plates never break but ceramic ones do, so do steel plates provide less protection against individual shots?

because it says ceramic ones will completely block damage

[inland wolf]

yes because they spall, dealing damage to you over time

ceramic will absorb then break

[patent vortex]

ceramic is better , kevlar is for moving , steel shit , is vintage

[thorny warren]

i always thought weight doesn't really matter because it doesn't affect top speed, only agility

also why do my ai teammates take so much longer than me to install door jams i dont understand

[patent vortex]

the animation for them mb

[glossy stirrup]

How did the lspd get the money to move out of their unsafe subway station to an actual police department hq

[bold solstice]

What the hell is a "Friendly Fire: 0" penalty supposed to mean?

[brittle sable]

the actual police department hq is also a refurbished train station

[thorny warren]

i think the number increases if you shoot your teammates

[bold solstice]

It doesn't show every time, which to me suggests it is only shown if you did have a FF incident.

The whole penalty section isn't shown every time, and even if shown, this line doesn't appear always.

[blissful harness]

I just hate the fact my voice turns Judge now if I play solo

I don't wanna have a Judge voice

[spring knoll]

it’s also pretty funny that judge’s voice lines play at the port hokan container regardless of whose voice you’re using atm

[blissful harness]

Do y'all think they should've put extra efforts for each character's special evidence lines instead of "secured"?

[tough spire]

Are there soft objectives on Sins of the Father?

oop nevermind I was just missing a weapon. S complete.

[spring knoll]

yeah

i feel like the port hokan moment is dampened because there’ve been plenty of other heinous discoveries that i feel should’ve prompted unique voice lines

like when you report a money stash why are they going “bagging”? what are you bagging??

[bold solstice]

What's the deal with the doc? After every mission he nags about seeing him despite doing just fine. No losses, only injuries.

[thorny warren]

i've played with noswat and got to S rank too easily on some levels, perhaps it is time to get rid of armor, the helmet and primary weapons

still cant beat carriers of the vine normally though

[granite hornet]

And how much time to complete all missions

[granite hornet]

And what abt mods ?

[glossy stirrup]

Depends on how many suspects spawn and how quickly you can locate evidence and complete objectives

I dont think time has an effect on your mission rating

[unkempt storm]

My pc is rx6600 XT - CORE I5 120400F
Why i have low fps and dropping on low mode ?

[oblique sail]

same gpu and ryzen 5600x, 120 fps on epic, don't know man, it's magic how RON works on various setups

it does drop down to 90 sometimes tho

use DX12 if you aren't already. DX11 is crap besides on linux, where DX12 is crap

[unkempt storm]

ok i will

should i don't use any dx ?

and how i can do that

[oblique sail]

when starting the game, it shows play on DX11 or DX12

or go to properties of the game and change it there

[unkempt storm]

safe mode

[oblique sail]

DX11 is default, DX12 is the one you want

[unkempt storm]

isn't better fps ?

[oblique sail]

no, not safe mode

[unkempt storm]

but it's a normal game why it's dropping like that

even fortnite and cod don't do that

[oblique sail]

optimization, we don't know, it's just...magic how the game works lol

[unkempt storm]

[oblique sail]

it depends on the system, someone with a lower spec might have higher fps than you

someone with a 40XX might have horrible FPS

[unkempt storm]

Yeah true i did play it on my brother pc

1050ti

[dawn laurel]

How do I let my steam friend join a friend's only lobby

[unkempt storm]

was not even dropping with Gtx 1050 ti

[oblique sail]

yeah, but we have the same GPU, and it works fine on mine on max

so i don't know, all pcs are different, and RoN doesn't have the best optimization, it used to be worse even

now it's better

[unkempt storm]

i didn't update my pc for a 5 months , Should i update now ?

windows update

[oblique sail]

you should always update and don't have bloatware installed

windows pretty much is packed with bloatware anyway, but i mean external programs

[unkempt storm]

i used a programe makes my pc dosen't update always

[oblique sail]

IMO; best suggestion, do a clean installation of windows, it will do miracles

not a reinstall, a clean install

[unkempt storm]

@oblique sail
dx12 fixed my problem , ty mate .

[uncut nacelle]

sup

[crimson citrus]

i cant get through twisted nerves💀💀

[sour furnace]

Bro I just joined a public lobby that was empty aside from this mf sitting in the briefing room reading bible verses 💀

[crimson citrus]

spreading the gospel everywhere

[ivory kiln]

skill issue

[upbeat wadi]

ok I did the spider, running around collecting the evidence I missed, and I stumbled upon a voice recorder on a desk, then another one

so basically how many are there, so I don't spend the rest of my evening combing every pixel for logs that aren't there?

nothing whatsoever on google about this, seems like the recordings were added recently

[ivory kiln]

idk

they aren't the most important

[stone stump]

if you're looking for lore in ron you really got lost

[upbeat wadi]

don't wanna miss them anyway

[uncut nacelle]

#🎬ron-clips-and-media biggest bruh moment

[crimson citrus]

🤓

[ivory kiln]

cope

[crimson citrus]

☝️🤓

[uncut nacelle]

[brittle sable]

you know you can change shotgun reload to shell

[uncut nacelle]

smgs enjoyer

played with shotgun just for gore details

[upbeat wadi]

so does anyone remember if there's any audio logs in the spider besides the two I've found?

[brittle sable]

probably check the wiki for that shit
or shaynes analysis if he's done one

[upbeat wadi]

nope nothing at all on google

or steam guides

[ivory kiln]

what a nice game

you get to shoot people

[near spruce]

fr

[upbeat wadi]

i shuddered when i incapped the streamer and he started making inhuman screams

having passed the spider, he deserved that and more

[robust spire]

istg i dont think i just waited like 10 hours just for a game to work

[ivory kiln]

agreed

enemies screaming is nice

[robust spire]

why is this game lagging and why is it freezing when im on the loading screen about to go to the station

[ivory kiln]

especially for the terrorists in the nightclub and hospital

[robust spire]

i was getting hyped i was getting pumped up but then the game froze disaster struck i was panicking and breaking down doors and everything

[ivory kiln]

shit happens

it happenes to me sometimes

in the middle of a shootout

thankfully i don't die

[robust spire]

no but it was freezing while loading

[ivory kiln]

it happens

happens to me too

[robust spire]

and it wouldnt stop freezing i mean it was ICE cold

but eh

i have a bad pc anyway

[stone bay]

Killing = Dopamine

by the way

Arresting = no dopamine

[crude python]

will it ever come out on ps?

[robust spire]

i dont think so

[crude python]

wish it did

[uncut nacelle]

imma start uploading "911 call" around 17:00 gmt +2

[dark hound]

hello I think i found an easteregg i was in the mission carriers of the vine and i shot a weird thing looking like a human and i heard weird sounds is it a n easeregg?

[molten totem]

Yes

[winter orbit]

Me fr

[swift fog]

so me

[spring knoll]

is there a way to slow down my camera movement speed in the replay viewer?

[stone bay]

istg i have been tryna finish forgotten palms on practice mode for over an hour

I am gonna go insane

[short elm]

guys i have an issue that i cannot switch weapons in the weapon selection. im stuck with m4a1 and i tried to click on another weapons and its stays the same... someone can help me with that?

[thorny warren]

goddamn it i had my volume set to a high value and i suddenly got shot at, it was terrifying

its not the first time ready or not scares me more than horror games ever will

[spring knoll]

also the path system seems to just not work either, unless i'm missing something

[foggy zinc]

gunfighter mod conflict, you gotta redownload the updated version

[quick ocean]

Trying to s tier the elephant. Might aswell just toss away my pc

[short elm]

ty dude

[ivory kiln]

it's depressing looking at the evidence in the evidence locker

[robust spire]

man im starting to give up

i dont think this game is optimized for my computer which is gay as hell

[foggy zinc]

specs?

if VRAM <= 4GB then that explains a lot

[robust spire]

intel iris xe, 8gb ram, idk my vram, intel core i5 11th gen, it should be enough to run the game because ive played games like ghost recon wildlands and division 2

and those are pretty similar graphics wise

ima play in safe mode

[foggy zinc]

how tf are you playing div2 anyways, i was in ur same situation (exact same specs on my laptop), the game would always crash on everything but training

if u desperately wanna play then my suggestions is crank everything down, no background apps on, windowed on low resolution

otherwise you're sadely somewhat stuck like i was which is why i got a proper PC

[robust spire]

im never gonna be able to play this game

i dont have the budget for a normal pc and my brother's pc i can only access sometimes so yeah im never gonna be able to finally play this game ever again in my entire life

[white goblet]

Getting more ram will help. It's probably the cheapest way to upgrade

[robust spire]

i paid 30 dollars for this game that's not that cheap i shouldve bought a different game :(

[white goblet]

I got a 32gb pair of ram sticks for ~$80

improved performance for me a ton

before i only had 8gb ram

[robust spire]

yeah but im on a laptop :(

im gonna refund this game tomorrow most likely and ill buy a different game

i only have 44 minutes on it

[foggy zinc]

its not RAM that's the issue its VRAM i believe, this game doesn't use much RAM afaik, but this game is dummy hard/impossible to play with 4GB of VRAM

[robust spire]

yeah im pretty much screwed but ill just return the game and ill get it when i have a better pc

[thorny warren]

only 4 bullets left and i gotta find the last suspect, this is so intense

[brittle sable]

what mission bro how tf you end up with 4 bullets in total

[thorny warren]

carriers of the vine, i just died the moment you said that, and i got an E

i remember someone here saying you get an F when you die, well he was wrong

[robust spire]

man this game seemed so fun but ill never be able to play it

[thorny warren]

i had MP5 with 5 mags and 1 mag with handgun

[robust spire]

sigh

ill shut up now

[thorny warren]

but yeah there were actually 3 suspects i missed lol, 13 out of 16

[thorny warren]

no wait i had 6 mags, but i didn't use suppressive fire at all...

was the MP5 a bad choice?

[foggy zinc]

mp5 is only good up to L2 armour i believe

[thorny warren]

also an important info is that i was playing with the noswat mod, so i was alone

[foggy zinc]

wtf

solo carriers with an MP5?

[thorny warren]

well i wasn't far from doing it

[foggy zinc]

bro must've been on the 213 park homes product

[thorny warren]

what

[foggy zinc]

idk if i answered this fully but if you want a proper SMG for armour pen then P90, Mp7 or UMP 45 are some good options

9mm struggles against literally everything besides L2 i think

[golden schooner]

finally found that last civvie at mindjot after 2 hours of searching....solo

[thorny warren]

i wish i could have machine guns

[foggy zinc]

sniper or not does that i think

[upbeat wadi]

how does therapy work? sent one guy to therapy but it won't let me send another

[winter shadow]

There is a mod for that, I forgot the name

[winter shadow]

Maximum is 4 only

[upbeat wadi]

i sent two guys last turn, they came back, now it only let me send one

[rocky plover]

the others might still be in therapy, it can be 1,2 or 3 "days/missions"

[halcyon briar]

Once the enemies are neutralized you can just command-6 the search and secure and the teams will find all the civilians and evidence, won't complete soft objectives tho

[normal patrol]

I find that ordering your to search and secure blue then red separately works better also when roaming back through maps having only red or blue follow is enough ie 2 guys bagging instead of 4 bc w/4 everyone is too slow/crowded

[uncut nacelle]

#🎬ron-clips-and-media feel free to watch this

[craggy yew]

i really hope in the future there's a hidden post credit cut scene that has d platoon and every notable suspect busting down in the neon nightclub like in saints row 4

[golden schooner]

i did! but my squad just cuffed 2 civvies...after that they just dont respond to search and secure anymore so yeaa

[normal patrol]

idk what the ROE says about explosives but Im not responsible for what happens to the bombs that the terrorists bring into the equation, am I? If those bomb vests go off... killing 20-30% of suspects on the map... thats not on me .. is it? you play with bombs, ya gonna get wet.. so why do I get penalized?

[amber hearth]

Mp0.2 is pretty okay also

P90, mp7 are better but mp0.5 also a solid gun

Wait no its mp0.5

[amber dock]

All S-rank no death Ironman secret ending

“The good ending”

[bold solstice]

How many shots do the M320 launchers have?

[rocky plover]

4

[river bluff]

AI isn't going for hostages anymore when I press "search and secure"

.-.

[ivory kiln]

do you get penalized for shooting uncompilant civvies with beanbags

[grave kite]

search and secure aint even working

[grave kite]

i can try it for you like rn

but pretty sure you get -50

[ivory kiln]

aw man

[grave kite]

also dont be like me dont ram uncheked doors

[ivory kiln]

i know

brisa cove has been much easier since the hotfix

[pearl shuttle]

Any reason I should use any other muzzle attachments besides the suppressor

[winter orbit]

Still don't get how people say this game is too difficult, or the AI is BS, when i'm 2manning carriers of the vine in vietnam era gear with no armour

[ivory kiln]

using suppressors is lame

i want the enemy to know i'm here

[loud whale]

If you want difficult, download some of the remade SWAT 4 levels, enemies have been cranked up to early 1.0 days on those maps, its ridiculous

[grave kite]

yep you do get -50

[ivory kiln]

that's sad

[grave kite]

true

wait no i might be wrong

[ivory kiln]

pepper spray is ok though?

[grave kite]

you actually dont get -50 for shooting them with beanbag i was wrong

[ivory kiln]

oh

[grave kite]

and pepper spray is defo okay then

[ivory kiln]

i don't wanna waste a slot for pepper spray

[grave kite]

fair

[grave kite]

taser better ngl

[ivory kiln]

why don't they put it in secondary

[grave kite]

no idea

but honestly it really depends on map if you should take taser

lets take the spider for example

taser is useful on it

but twisted nerve

better to have an additional wedge or some

[rocky plover]

should be able to use it as secondary when doing non lethal and tactical slot when doing lethal runs so you can have a handgun aswell

[grave kite]

true

[ivory kiln]

they need more less lethal weapons

[grave kite]

also does anyone have an idea how to effectively make suspects comply?

[rocky plover]

or switch the small pepper gun to the secondary loadout

[ivory kiln]

flashbangs work

i also made an idle suspect comply by bashing him

[grave kite]

what if i cant flash

[ivory kiln]

idk

i made few suspects comply by shooting a lot around them

[sharp roost]

Does the update fix the performance issues?

[ivory kiln]

nope just AI

[river bluff]

Ready or not AI trying not to shit itself (impossible diff):

[uncut nacelle]

any tips to stop shitting myself after a gunshot?

[grave kite]

mute the game 🥶

[uncut nacelle]

L

[lone pelican]

for the hermit achievement does incapacitation count as losing an officer

[craggy yew]

does shooting bomb vests with pepperball / bean bags make them go off?

[grave kite]

cant kill an officer with c2

[white goblet]

toilet paper

[grave kite]

pretty sure not even normal rounds do

[lone pelican]

Is that a yes or a no?

[grave kite]

a no

[river bluff]

hotel level is giving me headache to S tier

[odd briar]

Sins of the father no?

[river bluff]

the one where you have to find snipers

I have the game on spanish so idk

[odd briar]

The one where you spawn on the roof is the one I’m thinking of

Just got the game yesterday I haven’t seen all of the levels yet

[river bluff]

ah kay

NOW TRAPS ARE INVISIBLE!?

WTF VOID

[ivory kiln]

at least they're flasbangs

[night pasture]

Good old brisa cove

Save that s rank for last it’s a pain

[river bluff]

I swear

[normal trout]

brisa aint that bad

compared to like post office or relapse

[river bluff]

post office is just big

annoying

[grave kite]

my final boss is sins of the father

[river bluff]

FUUUUUCK

STUPID AI, DOESNT ALLOW ME TO SHOT WITHOUT FF

I am legit going to keep myself safe grinding S tiers

[hardy summit]

yo is this a good channel to ask about bug troubleshooting or is there a better one to go to

[uncut nacelle]

#💻tech-support

[river bluff]

#1050535723087958156 #🐜archived-bug-reports-channel

[hardy summit]

preciate

[stone bay]

Don’t try to S the game on these AI lol just get a group going

[uncut nacelle]

wdym

[grave kite]

public lobbies are mad

[river bluff]

ehrm multiplayer does not have achievements?

or has it?

[stone bay]

I get achievements in multiplayer lol

I think at least

[uncut nacelle]

public co op is just dumb n funny

[grave kite]

cap

[uncut nacelle]

seeing a person running with pistol n dying, "how tf did i died? fuck this g@me"

[grave kite]

but playin 5 people is mad fun cause its fast

[stone bay]

I think the main problem people have on here is having to playing with the under 18 crowd who like to use this a a mass shooter simulator half the time and calling suspects the N word

[craggy yew]

have you guys noticed the walls are way hungier than usual

[stone bay]

That’s all I get with public lobbies 😂

[somber sail]

does the losing no officers include them getting stressed out and quitting count for iron man mode (tryna get diamond watch)

[hardy summit]

i believe so

[river bluff]

OMFG ALL MFS GOT AT ME HEAD ON-

[somber sail]

oh my goddddddd

[normal trout]

that’s exactly why it’s harder than brisa

[somber sail]

brisa is pretty easy now i S tiered it first try

[normal trout]

so did i

[somber sail]

ya

[normal trout]

post office is aids though

[somber sail]

nah its pretty easy just

[normal trout]

too many open spaces

[somber sail]

clear the 2nd floor and thats it

[river bluff]

easy my ass

[somber sail]

its easy now lol try S tiering it

[tawdry nymph]

How do I clear the hospital map

[river bluff]

IM FUCKING DOING IT, RNG SHIT IS FUCKING ME UP

[tawdry nymph]

That one is hard and I kept failing

[hardy summit]

what's your current loadout?

[river bluff]

beanbag

[somber sail]

thats the best you can use

[river bluff]

pure beanbag and 9bang flash

[somber sail]

my boy ur playing modded 💀

thats not even a certified run

[river bluff]

I honestly dont care

[somber sail]

how r u saying its hard when ur running 9bangs 😭

[river bluff]

I just want steam achievements and my own score

[somber sail]

u dont get achievements for modded runs i think

[hardy summit]

^

[river bluff]

I do get them

[hardy summit]

interesting

[somber sail]

interesting

[tawdry nymph]

You do actually

I got my achievements and I’m playing modded

[somber sail]

at that point just put a no AI mode 💀

[river bluff]

THE FUCKING AI JUST DOESNT WANT TO SHOT AT THE ENEMIES-

[hardy summit]

dont rely on ai teammates

[somber sail]

^

[tawdry nymph]

Funny thing the AI just don’t wanna follow me

[somber sail]

you always gotta be the frontman or else ur gonna get clapped

[somber sail]

you gotta tell them to fall in after moving in

[tawdry nymph]

I did

[somber sail]

weird

ima try getting diamond watch today vanilla

[tawdry nymph]

As a matter of fact I did that before moving out of a room and some times they are just stuck there

[somber sail]

the game is infinitely way easier now

[tawdry nymph]

Yeah

[hardy summit]

brisa i personally used like 3-4 beanbag slots, max out the rest with gas nades, then use the flash launcher for super quick peek panic shooting

[somber sail]

its not like easier but you only fail if you do something wrong actually

[hardy summit]

no fr

[somber sail]

unlike last time

[tawdry nymph]

I mean

[somber sail]

which is what was supposed to happen

didnt check a corner? ur fucked.

and im glad the difficulty is that way now.

[tawdry nymph]

Atm I’m just down to gasing all rooms I’m gonna go into as a way to ID if there’s people there

[somber sail]

and the ai arent suicidal maniacs and get intimidated by 4 men with rifles

[hardy summit]

id be clenching up cause id think i was dead in a pre hotfix 3 situation but now i can just walk out of the room and patch up

[somber sail]

ima do S tier after im done with permadeath

[tawdry nymph]

Fk. Gl on that one

[somber sail]

i wanna do S tier iced out 😂

ive already got half S tier levels done so

i did valley of dolls first try after the update LMFAO

[tawdry nymph]

Did the AI is on fight or flight mode

[hardy summit]

i got valley s rank on hotfix 1 i believe

[tawdry nymph]

Like most of the time they just start shootings or give up right away a

[somber sail]

it only fight you if you have less than 2 officers on you

[somber sail]

my hotfix 1 run got ruined by beanbag ai one tapping a guard the last one too, was so pissed

[hardy summit]

hotfix 3 me and my mates got a lot more s ranks though idk im still split on the update

[hardy summit]

noooooo yea that's frustrating lmao

[somber sail]

literally bro the last one i was so tilted, but i was kinda calm cuz... MMA PANTS YOU KNOW

[hardy summit]

hahahah fr

i spent a lot of time on that mission and got lucky soloing it rng-wise and nade launcher spamming

the floral shirt is practically a medal lmao

[somber sail]

DUDE SAME I GOT SO LUCKY ON THE hot fix 1 run

70% of the enemy ai was AT SPAWN

I arrested 14 dudes in the main room

[somber sail]

like the entrance living room

[hardy summit]

hahahaha fr if they don't spawn in the top floor you're gonna have a rough time in the atrium bridge area

[somber sail]

ye now the downstairs living room is super easy lol

since you only get mailed through glass if you ask for it

[hardy summit]

hahahaha real talk man

[somber sail]

the ai feels a bit unique now in valley

especially the crazy kid

[hardy summit]

i havent played much of the new update, idk why but my game keeps crashing

[somber sail]

the retired soldiers act more safely and properly aggressive while the arrogant kid rushes in

[somber sail]

try running it as admin

[hardy summit]

interesting i gotta check that out

bet ill try that out

the ai does seem like they have more character

[somber sail]

ye the kid doesn't give up if you have guns I think

[hardy summit]

ive been seeing more animations that i didn't see before

[somber sail]

same

[slim verge]

so with update we dont need to cuff civilians?

[somber sail]

I haven't seen them pull out a gun cuz they finally are intimidated by the amount of officers

[hardy summit]

the suic bombers on neon tomb don't seem to surrender tho hahaha

[hardy summit]

kinda

[somber sail]

yeah that's pretty on point

[hardy summit]

so there;s an option to tell the civies to run to the entrance

[somber sail]

shit really?

[hardy summit]

make them kneel, command button then move to exit, but you have to look at them once they get there to confirm the report

[somber sail]

they haven't fixed the trailers sadly atleast search and secure command works

the only map trailers work is the first one

[hardy summit]

it's useful but it depends on the situation, you don't want to use that command on elephant

[somber sail]

nor ides

[hardy summit]

hahahah true

[slim verge]

FISAA Office in postmail mission relapse still bugged

sus can shoot u through walls there

while u cant hit him through window

[hardy summit]

oof that's rough

[slim verge]

did devs fixed suecide bambers blowing u through wall tho?

it made me piss i remember

[slim verge]

neon tomb

[hardy summit]

i haven't seen that one personally

[slim verge]

one time i died from explosion and in replay there are was bomber who made it but i didnt even enter nor open door of next room. Neon tomb mission

twisted nerve mission where u go to poisoned child room u cant aim at kid laying at bed, your gun automatically pull of

it gives perfect opportunity to sus shoot u down if he/she hide after bed

[river bluff]

I DIDNT GOT IT FOR "FRIENDLY FIRE"
...

[crystal sierra]

What's all side objectives in Rust belt, if i remember correctly, there is a plane in the end of the map inside the cave + passports in house on start, anything else?

[versed trail]

guys I cant find breach and clear mark on planning. Any help??

[native rune]

A plane lmfao

[craggy yew]

bout to get that 99's drip

[uncut nacelle]

@vale tangle u missed da premiere brah

[upbeat wadi]

man it's a lucky break i dont command a tactical team in real life, i'm way too obscenely stupid for that

so, got to ides of march. id heard about it A LOT in discussions of this game, that's definitely the mission everyone seems to whine about the most

so i knew i was in for a ride, so i spent like 10 minutes poring over my loadout, tried to memorize the map at least roughly before deploying, when we did deploy i was as careful and methodical as i could about moving forward and breaching doors (cause they're all goddamn booby trapped)

eventually got the ✅ BRING ORDER TO CHAOS message, sweet, just gotta find the last civilian or two in those like 3 doors we havent cleared

[river bluff]

OMG FINALLY S RANK
Gas > Flashbangs

[upbeat wadi]

i tell my team to hold so they dont get in the way, find a civilian behind the first door, go up to the next one, BAAAH LOCKED

so i kick it and kick it again and again and then some more cause the door rng wont let me kick the damn thing down

and
you probably guessed it already didnt you

[hardy summit]

💥💥

[upbeat wadi]

bingo

i havent felt this stupid in a long, long time

[hardy summit]

That’s what happened on my first few runs lol

[upbeat wadi]

ill keep your seat warm for you on the short bus

[hardy summit]

Thanks bruh lol

[vale tangle]

of your cinematic?

i just woke up man 💀

but last night i did finally beat the game, all s tiers

[uncut nacelle]

oh sorry for waking u up, want a coffee sweetheart?

[neat hazel]

anyone recieving DX12 crashes?

[vale tangle]

i prefer tea

[uncut nacelle]

gotta be the best sleep of All time

[uncut nacelle]

its in #🎬ron-clips-and-media

[vale tangle]

for real i slept snug as a bug in a rug

[uncut nacelle]

i was worried about rendering issues, shi is bussinn

[uncut nacelle]

What time is it

[vale tangle]

11:00 am 💀

i was out cold

[uncut nacelle]

damn

cold sleep, best sleep

[crystal sierra]

Anyone did S run on Rust belt? What's the all side objectives? I found boat and fake passports, is there something else?

[uncut nacelle]

i think its just boat, passports

[vale tangle]

i did

[uncut nacelle]

as i remember

[vale tangle]

you’re probably missing a weapon somewhere

it happened to my friend and i when we got s, there was like a shotgun under a bunch of map clutter

[crystal sierra]

Nah, i didn't miss any weapon or anything, pretty much only civilians since i didn't cuff any, asking to prevent myself of playing mission again

[vale tangle]

oh okay

[solar crescent]

why not

[vale tangle]

think i should try my hand at doing iron man mode now? @uncut nacelle

[uncut nacelle]

if u did all s tiers sure

[vale tangle]

i saw some dude post that he got 100% achievements calling himself the best player ever so i don’t see why i can’t be too

[crystal sierra]

What's catch with iron-man mode anyways? Solo without bots or... ?

[vale tangle]

i think it’s like permadeath?

could be wrong

[uncut nacelle]

pathetic ass comment, man must love himself too much

[vale tangle]

haven’t died yet 😎

[uncut nacelle]

i got the spider going on in ironman, havent completed it cuz i quit after playing 1.0 before hotfixes

[vale tangle]

now now nothing wrong with a little self love and overconfidence

[uncut nacelle]

i got S tier in gas station im the best player, yall suck.

[vale tangle]

i’m going to stop texting on my phone autocorrect makes me talk like a genuine moron

[thorny warren]

are some assault rifles more powerful than others or are they all the same?

[vale tangle]

yeah

[thorny warren]

same, and some other missions too

[static relic]

h

[uncut nacelle]

"We the best musi... ron players."

[vale tangle]

the 300. bk ones are strangely good against armour, the sa58 being high calibre is like a two shot to kill armour i think?

[versed trail]

sometimes even 1 shot from sa58

[vale tangle]

damn

[uncut nacelle]

wanna be in my "Double Trouble" vid?

[vale tangle]

i hardly use it, it’s more my friends cup of tea

[thorny warren]

so basically mk18 is no different from mk16? and GA416?

[vale tangle]

what does that entail 🤨

[static relic]

I use the slr since it looks kool :/

[thorny warren]

i thought the GA416 had larger caliber because the barrel seemed a bit more thick, but looks like i was wrong

[uncut nacelle]

ron cinematic montage, 2 retarted swats vs degenerate people

[vale tangle]

besides recoil, fire rate, attachment preference, and which one you think looks cool? no difference

[craggy yew]

fuck the FISA all my homies hate the FISA

[vale tangle]

bro that twist on port hokan genuinely shocked me

i wanted to kill those guys

[uncut nacelle]

FISHA sounds better

[craggy yew]

they played us like a damn fiddle

[vale tangle]

like i was not prepared to see any of that when i played the map lol i have never even heard about that being in the game

[pastel solar]

yo

[vale tangle]

yo

[thorny warren]

i didn't realise how good the flashlight was until i started using it

[pastel solar]

if i make the ai swat members just like move to a location at spawn and just stay there the whole time

[vale tangle]

goated better than nvgs

[pastel solar]

would it decrease the strain on my cpu? ive heard the advanced ai of the swat cmpanions really can strain ur cpu

[vale tangle]

yeah

[pastel solar]

oh fr? wait i should rlly try that

[static relic]

Do you guys use suppressors? (just curious)

[vale tangle]

i don’t know that’s an oddly specific test

[pastel solar]

just raiding solo, that could help my fps

[vale tangle]

i assume they’d still be rendered in so i doubt there would be a noticeable cpu performance hit

[vale tangle]

seems like fun

[pastel solar]

yea but like i feel like them not constantly using that ai logic

would maybe make it better, cause they probaly run checks like all the time for hostages or hostiles

[vale tangle]

it depends on what specifically is causing the poor performance from the ai

[pastel solar]

no its just my overall game performance in general on ron

i keep crashing, despite getting like not much fps lag

[vale tangle]

no mods on your game?

[vale tangle]

when would that be?

[static relic]

is the SR-16 good lmfao (funny long gun)

[uncut nacelle]

whenever tbh, just gotta do a run in mission that has a good lightning

[vale tangle]

it's not bad, just don't use it on the small closer maps

[craggy yew]

if i had a nickel for ever RON map with the left behind thats whooping my rank attempts id have 2 nickels which is strange that its happened twice

[vale tangle]

ides of march and sins of the father?

[craggy yew]

yeah

[vale tangle]

yeah

ides isn't that bad imo, sins was a nightmare though

all my attempts on both were when the ai was still fucked pre patch, so I was like going through stages of grief getting back on after every death to replay the maps just to die again

[static relic]

got any good sugestions for primaries?

[vale tangle]

for cqb or what?

[hardy summit]

i love the lvar or mp5 10mm

[static relic]

ye, cqb

[vale tangle]

hold on a sec

[stone bay]

Any shotgun spread choke

Take arms off of suspects and there head!

[static relic]

i know that already, i've always ran shotguns

[vale tangle]

for smgs, can't go wrong with a p90, it has a higher powered round than the other ones and if that wont take down suspects, the fire rate will because your mag is big enough to where full auto is actually somewhat viable

[static relic]

alr, any muzzle attachments?

[vale tangle]

rifles, the arn180, arwc, and f90 are all relatively short barreled

[vale tangle]

p90 has two suppressors, use neither

[vale tangle]

mk18 too

[vale tangle]

put a foregrip and a muzzle on any of those and you'll be fine on recoil

although if your thing is low recoil the g36c has basically none

[stone bay]

I like the Aussie bullpup

[static relic]

the f90 looks cool

[vale tangle]

for most encounters guns I wouldn't recommend are the sa58 (too big of a round for maps with civilians in the background, slr47 it's a stupid ak nuff said, mk16 it has an ugly ar stock and has recoil.

if you want something quiet without a long suppressor making cqp impossible then the lvar is quite good

and when it comes to shotguns, just use the b1301 and the xm1014, the others are pump action and thus slower

for non lethal just use the bean bag gun, if you want a pepper ball launcher do not use the tpl it has 12 shots only

@static relic does that help?

[static relic]

ye

the arn feels really nice to use 🐟

[vale tangle]

yeah it's a good option

bro

[static relic]

this aint the valorant server

[vale tangle]

and if it was this ain't the valorant discussion chat either

[stone bay]

https://tenor.com/view/no-bugs-bunny-nope-gif-4095597578532971838

[vale tangle]

💀

[static relic]

bro's fighting fire with fire

[craggy yew]

Third times the charm

[uncut nacelle]

Mods bring this man to hell and ban him

valorant? come on brah

[static relic]

bring the D platoon 🐟

[vale tangle]

mods drag his corpse through the streets so we can spit on it

[whole palm]

misinput misinputtt