General discussion

[karmic oracle]

ok

i do remember someone making an escelator

thanks for thehelp

[calm sage]

np

[tropic kite]

Wait what, <F giving polite responses for once and saying thanks? What happened?

[karmic oracle]

Saying gesundheit reversed my brain damage

[tropic kite]

Bless you

[karmic oracle]

Why does everyone call me by <F

😦

[karmic oracle]

hmmm i want draggability on 2 axis

can you do Is Draggable for x and DraggableY for y

this would be useful for stuff like carpets

and my modf

mod

thansj

[karmic oracle]

ok jkenneth is jus tgoing to ingore my sugestion 😭

Which updated logo is nicer for my mod cntrct?

ok god discord is bad at displaying images now

i feel like the pixel text is less readable but the logo is already a square

[naive kraken]

Hi, is something in the new update broken for code mods? I updated libraries to the newest ones and I'm building solution successfully

[next flume]

im using that mod and i dont get that issue. im on expiremental branch of Sinc, but i wasnt getting an error with it on latest Stable either

[eager plume]

I like the 1st one more

[naive kraken]

hm, strange.. for me and some players this error appears

[gaunt pumice]

the 2nd one feels more personalized and looks natural but you need to make the text bigger so it will look better

if i had to click between the two i would click the 2nd one and its also the one that grabbed my attention first

[karmic oracle]

Hmm ok

I'll try enlarging the pixilated one

[karmic oracle]

And maybe also add curved corners to the smooth logo

[gaunt pumice]

thats what i thought too

[next flume]

Try reinstalling the mod. Or ask in that modders discord

[naive kraken]

haha, I'm a dev of this mod so just curious did Kenneth made some changes to the internal compiler of the code mods since on that errored line is middle of the dictionary

[next flume]

Oh haha. Yea I think he did tho lol

[manic dirge]

Trawis, Did you add a UI to the game? Was that a code mod? If you don't mind me asking how did you do that?

[naive kraken]

Some of it, yes. Buttons and windows. You can see it on github repo for details and references. It depends what exactly you want to do it

[manic dirge]

oh ok thanks

[manic dirge]

I dont Know if you would know but. First ishould ask if its even possible to edit the in game UI rather than creating your own

[karmic oracle]

i think ill use this modified one

(sorry for spamming)

[calm sage]

The drag direction depends on the direction of the furniture, just decrease the angle snap or hold ALT

[calm sage]

I'll check it out now. I added some code recently to strip comments from files, since it caused issues, might have introduced a bug

[calm sage]

Figured it out, it's trying to strip the http:"//" from the string

[naive kraken]

Oh, should i remove it then?

[calm sage]

nah, I'll fix it today

[naive kraken]

Thanks! 😀

[karmic oracle]

I want to be able to make rectangles, not only lines

Because the furniture I want to use it works as a Wallpaper for floors

And placing row by row is still just as tedious as placing individually

[manic dirge]

Would anyone be willing to look at my code? I've got an error to do with the path of a UI but I'm not really sure why. Fair warning I have no idea what I'm doing. I dont want to fill up the general chat with code so the code is in th thread I created

[eager plume]

You can send it here(in a .txt file) so ppl can just look, thats easier for both you and us

[manic dirge]

okay cool i couldnt get it to be a code block anyway

as I said I have no idea what im doing i studied trawis's code and the documentation through intellisense and I almost had a brain aneurism. So thats the best i could do💀

[naive kraken]

@calm sage sorry for ping, but is this issue for me or you will fix it? I updated the game to the newest version, solution of my mod is building successfully with the newest libraries

[eager plume]

ChatGPT's response: There are a few issues with your code:

Missing closing brace: The code snippet you provided is missing the closing brace for the CreatesTehBox class.

Incorrect method signature: In the CreatesTehBox class, the method CreateInputBoxInside is missing the closing parenthesis and opening brace for its body.

Im not saying this is the problem btw, i dont know anything from coding but i do know chatgpt is also marketed as code assistant(in a form)

[calm sage]

Is it your mod on the workshop? It's working fine on my end

[manic dirge]

Appreciate the effort and trying to help. Although kinda myb I forgot to include the last brace in the txt file but its in my code and Im not sure what its talking about the parentheses. Unfortunately my error seems to be with the parent game object path I just don't know why (tbf forgot to mention that to), The other part is something that unfortunately there's no chance that ChatGPT could do because it requires someone with knowledge/experience of the game and modding it like Kenneth or the other code Modder's like trawis. I think you created a separate discussion asking if chatGPT could do mods. And I'm not the most experienced but I can say this, likleyhood is NO, as someone who also made a data mod I don't doubt that as long as you feed it the proper information it could definitely do that.

[manic dirge]

But prob not code mods since it requires documentation from the game which is something ChatGPT does not have

[eager plume]

What type of software should i add in my mod? Im asking bcs i dont have many ideas

[next flume]

I’m thinking stuff like Nvidia Inspector and MSI afterburner? Overclocking software? How about some phone or smartwatch software like health & diet apps?

https://tenor.com/view/explain-plan-theory-crazy-insane-gif-22079506

[eager plume]

sounds good

will try to add them

[eager plume]

When downloading dll mods i got a warning that i use mods that could potentially harm my pc. Realisticly what could they do?

Like could they remove files or download malware or just look around in my pc?

[tropic kite]

DLL mods have the ability to load additional code from an extrernal source

Meaning it can load something that access your pc outside of the game

Load viruses or stuff

Via steam it's different, since the game only allows in game compiled dll's onto steam

So the dev has more control what the mod can do befofe it compiles it into an dll

[eager plume]

can i change the texture of furnitur(in my mod) depending on the time ingame?

[karmic oracle]

like a clock?

[eager plume]

like change the clocks texture every hour

omg F your timing

[karmic oracle]

lmao

nah that would require a code mod

[eager plume]

but yes

[karmic oracle]

my solution is just to write time o' clock

[eager plume]

like a furniture and code mod or just a code mod

[karmic oracle]

both of course

but that would be complicated since you would have to worry about load order

[eager plume]

i was planning on making a “small/simple” furniture mod with diffirent time changing furnituress

[karmic oracle]

yeah unless kenneth spends some time making it work i think it's unlikely :/

[eager plume]

ill ask Kenneth if hes online

[eager plume]

and active in the discord

[karmic oracle]

he will say no

he hates me

[eager plume]

ill ask politly

[eager plume]

not me(i hope)

[karmic oracle]

thats something ive never though of trying 🤔

[eager plume]

i have

and hopefully i still do when im asking it

what other furniture mod could i make?

like small decorative furniture

[next flume]

mouse pad, speakers, plaques

[manic dirge]

anyone know what's going on with the updates for steam? Or is that just me? Everytime I try to push an update to my mod it says it updates but doesn't have change notes and the update 'counter' doesn't go up?

[karmic oracle]

I know that you can't update if you are subscribed to your mod

[manic dirge]

if you ARE subscribed I thought it was the opposite way around? When I unsub I only lets me upload but when Im subbed It lets me upload but not update

[eager plume]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=859735046

that might help

[manic dirge]

That Fixed it, thanks, really did not want to have to re-upload

[eager plume]

np, i saw that guide yesterday and i thought hmm thats usefull, i should keep it in my mind when im updating my mod(s).

which mod is yours?

is it the indie game mod?

is there a tutorial for code modding? Or is there maybe a better wiki?

pls tag me when you respond btw

[eager plume]

on both questions

[next flume]

What fixed it?

[eager plume]

adding the file pubID.txt i think

not sure

[manic dirge]

tis'

[eager plume]

is there any good hardware mod with new production lines?

[manic dirge]

needed the steam ID in a file which for some reason wasn't present

[next flume]

your update broke compatibility with everything lol

[manic dirge]

Fixed

[manic dirge]

Unfortunately, New specializations typically conflict with other mods, But as soon as I get the description box up there shouldn't be a need for that anyway

[next flume]

I think it’s cause you modified current software types?

[next flume]

they're compatible again. is it a full rollback or did the fixes make it in from last update?

[manic dirge]

Yea Its A rollBack But while I wait I'm making another Mod that will include indieGame+ and a ton of other Software

Of course that will likely not be compatible but I will Probably put out a 'lite' version that has less but is compatible

[karmic oracle]

hmm (new mod) (well not a new mod) (but new furniture for the mod i already made) (but the mod isnt released yet)

[manic dirge]

Why

Why did saving my mod file as a dll break everything and treat it like its a text file

and ofc i cant change it back😫

I FIXED IT LFG

[eager plume]

I made a mod with name gens only but the mod is "empty" i dont wanna change software or companies just name generator is that not possible?

[karmic oracle]

idk just have the folders of the other mods and leave them empty

thats what i did with my contract mod

or is it a different issue with name gens?

[karmic oracle]

full mod so far
gonna release it today since it's the 1 year anniversary, even if it's still shit in its current form

[karmic oracle]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2982907880

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2438129763

cntrct got a revampt too ^^

oh and Construction Accessories 4.0 is released

[remote stratus]

add office accessories to the collection cf please my life depends on it

[karmic oracle]

what collection

[remote stratus]

the collection

https://steamcommunity.com/workshop/filedetails/?id=2957308866

[karmic oracle]

bruh ok ill do that tomorrow

i got like 5 exams in 3 weeks so i cant spend too much time on this 😅

[manic dirge]

can you only make one mod at a time? I have another mod and its in the same place as my other mod but the game wont recognize its even there?

[eager plume]

The error says: Mod is empty, but i removed the company and software .tyd because they are not needed for name gens

[manic dirge]

Ahh I'm Pretty sure those are needed

heres what it should look like regardless of what your adding

well the img isnt needed

also company types is needed Im not sure why thats not there

[eager plume]

But wont that delete all the changes from other mods for those software/companies?

[eager plume]

Can i change subsidarie limit with code modding?

[eager plume]

How would i start code modding?

if i have done everything in the wiki

[tropic kite]

Basically find out what functions the game has and use them. Visual studio can help with that, since it unpacks the games .dll files when you include them. If you have no clue what to do, you should make a plan first what you want to mod exactly. A good help is also to download existing code mods and check their code for how they did it. A good example for me was daredlocos event mod.
Also you really should have some experience with coding. We can't really help with usual coding problems.

[eager plume]

I know what i want but where do i find the mods i downloaded from steam? because last time i checked they arent in the mod folder.

[tropic kite]

Steam saves them in a separate folder steamapps-workshop

[eager plume]

thx

and are the games dll files automaticly unpacked? or how does that work?

[tropic kite]

You have to include the dll's in your project in the references

project explorer->references->right click, add reference

[eager plume]

thx

[eager plume]

dont find references anywhere

[manic dirge]

The Wiki Is A bit wishy-washy when it comes to code modding first you need NET4 framework which from whaty I gather Is only available with Visual Studio 2019 (or earlier) The You create a new class library
code --> create new project --> scroll down to C# Class Library (.NET Framework) --> select --> name it
2.
navigate to solution explorer (screen thing on the right) --> References --> add References --> Browse and this part depends if you have steam or not but at first it didnt show up for me so this is what I did
go to This Pc --> local disk --> ProgramFile(86x) --> Steam --> steamApps --> common --> software Inc --> software Inc_Data --> Managed and they should be in there DO NOT USE THE SEARCH FEATURE in file explorer Idk bout you but that breaks it for me and you cant find what your looking for

If you cant see solution explorer select view --> solution explorer

[tropic kite]

Btw depending on the language it won't be called solution explorer, but project explorer

For example in my case im German it is

[eager plume]

I have it in english so it should be dolution explorer right?

[tropic kite]

Yes, which is why they wrote it in English after all 😄

[eager plume]

does it matyter which net.4? like can i download 4.8.1

[eager plume]

Is there a list with all "references"

[manic dirge]

any way to get lower than 0.1 on popularity for data mods?? when i go lower and hike up the random it does not have any effect Im still getting 60ish thou

Im lookin for on avg 20k

[eager plume]

Maybe more competition

[eager plume]

out of nowhere there is a mod called .vs in myu swinc mod folder

[manic dirge]

for some reason eversince the steam update none of the mods are actually showing up properly anymore my one moed just doesnt have a name and i cant update it and hte other is missing features that aI added recently

[next flume]

what steam update

[eager plume]

I think he meant the ui renew of steam

Let me get a link rq

https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/593110/view/3687931965598906184?l=english

I think thats what hr mrans

He means*

[torpid light]

yeah I also can't see my mods in game only the building mods I have made

[eager plume]

Wdym?

[torpid light]

I mean like any mod that I have downloaded from workshop or any other mod like code mods, data mods etc, game doesn't show those mods

[eager plume]

they dont show when creating a new game or?

[torpid light]

it didn't show both when creating a new game, or in the mods menu at main menu. It seems like it is fixed tho Idk if it has anything to do with yesterday's little patch, but everything seems to be working right now

[eager plume]

maybe you didnt download it yet.

Does anyone know how i can change the max amount of subsidiaries i can have with mods?

like whats the “refference”

[calm sage]

you can use the console command TOGGLE_INFINITE_SUBSIDIARIES, but you can't change the limit directly

[eager plume]

Then ill suggest a way to change that(ingame or as mod). The command could be(if possible) SUBSIDIARY_LIMIT with 1 being 1 sub per star 2 being 2 subs per star etc.

The reason i dont want to go unlimited is because i dont wanna have a playtroguh where i have 100%of the market

[karmic oracle]

Or just don't make all of your competitors subsidiaries

[eager plume]

Too tempting

[karmic oracle]

Fair

[manic dirge]

does anybody know the fix for hte mods being blank or not updating to your changes?

[eager plume]

Srry for ping, but is that command only for 1 save or?

Also could you please make a ask the dev channel?

[karmic oracle]

#questions for now I guess

But Kenneth is too busy making the game better with fixing every instance of 24 hour format

Or just ask him something when he's online

[calm sage]

It's per launch, so you need to enable it when you open the game

[karmic oracle]

hmmmmm

the description is a pun

it's meant to say "right" but because it's a paper i put "write"

[icy raptor]

now allow starting in the 1950s 💀

[karmic oracle]

Start in BC with the Stone & Chisel

[manic dirge]

psuedo code and wireframing is the only way 🫡

[karmic oracle]

get an ai to make the models and textures for you 🧠

oh wait i already made the model for that

i just forgot to put it in the game

[manic dirge]

for people who make mods for contracts, Is there a way to edit the ideal price? ideal price in the tyd file doesnt seem to do anything

[karmic oracle]

||i think i'm the only person to make a dedicated contract mod lol|| no it's automatically balanced. the game chooses the value of the contract based on the devtime of each feature

so if you put a devtime of 0.5, you will get like 1000$

0.5 - 1000$
0.8 - 1600$
2.0 - 4000$

i think it's linear

[remote stratus]

i also made a dedicated contract mod, and I put literally 0 effort into anything involving balancing the contracts and it still turned out pretty good

[karmic oracle]

oh shit i forgot about that

im gonna put a link to it when i update the description of cntrct

[remote stratus]

https://discord.com/channels/308552600905580545/1077006599652126802

[eager plume]

Is it me or does the hardware spec just not work on pc os?

For making mods btw

[eager plume]

Anyone wanna help me with modding? I understand the basics of the name gen and .tyd files but i would like ro have a bit deeper knwoledge in it all, and yes i have read the wiki.

Pls tag if u answer btw.

[tropic kite]

You really should ask specific questions of what you want to do. You can mod a lot after all.

[eager plume]

yeah, sorry i wasnt really awake when i sent that message so i didnt really think clearly, let me see what excatly i need help with

why cant i have hardware as a spec(feature?) for PC os?

[eager plume]

for software supported by pc os

[karmic oracle]

yo i was bored so i asked chat gpt to try making a code mod that disables boundaries and building requirements for all furniture
however, it doesnt know what to write at the start of the lines of the disable checks thing and so it assumes what the things are named
any chance that someone knows what the actual names of these things are, or if they exist at all?

i've fed it the FloorMod files, and the entire code modding wiki page, but i dont think it mentions anything about rooms and furniture apart from these two entry points

any help would be appreciated, but i'm not trying to do something serious here since im just goofing around to see how code modding works

i already got text working in the options menu (mostly by copying code from the wiki)

[manic dirge]

Ill help you

[next flume]

I can’t imagine anyone else being bored enough to help with that. Make an actual mod. Time is money.

[karmic oracle]

I already make tons of mods
I just want to get away from those for a while

[karmic oracle]

someone contacted me asking if they could make a chinese localization of my contract mod but i said no and instead they came up with tons of new ideas

so now we have 3 contract mods in total to my knowledge

more variety 😄

[remote stratus]

crap i cant steal these ideas

[karmic oracle]

im bored

imma make some street signs and release it as an addon to construction accessories instead of actually finishing office accessories

[remote stratus]

i wish i could actually be decent at furniture modding, i just can't wrap (haha) my head around texturing the thing

[karmic oracle]

is that a good idea

[karmic oracle]

just make the model with texturing in mind

[remote stratus]

but i don't know how because i am stupid and dumb and stupid

[karmic oracle]

when i was making this digital clock, i was keeping the faces as simple and square as possible so that i could add details to the top of it

[remote stratus]

i can do that sort of ok

[karmic oracle]

i made the normal map with a greyscale heightmap i made in paint and i uploaded it to a normal map creator thing website and the model already looked good without even a decent base texture

[karmic oracle]

no you are not

i spent 2 years being a nuissance to everybody in this discord trying to get furniture modding to work

but one day it finally clicked (mostly with the introduction of the furniture modder thing in beta 1)

just go spend a weekend making stuff

you will nbe hapyp

sht

happy

[ripe copper]

Can someone say to me, how i can debug dll mod?

I'm put dll and pdb files to DLLMods folder, but after game starting and attaching to process by Visual Studio debugger i can't see my dll in modules list.

👉🏻 👈🏻

[pine crow]

Is there a comprehensive modding tutorial for the current version of the game?

For code modding, I should say

[tropic kite]

Comprehensive? No. Only basic of how to set it up on the wiki, but that's it so far.

[pine crow]

Is it alright if I ask some basic questions? I can't get code modding to work

[eager plume]

Just ask and if ppl can help they will try to.

[weak glade]

Hi. Has anyone haveany experience with window/door modding? I'm trying some basic windows, but can't get it to work. Is it even possible?

[eager plume]

@karmic oracle srry for ping but i know you have been trying to do this and laybeu can help

[karmic oracle]

kenneth shared some stuff

i havent found the time to try it myself

[weak glade]

@karmic oracle If you could share the info, that would be great.

[manic dirge]

Potentially a new code mod meta!?!?!? Download Jetbrains dot peek >> select open >> navigate to software inc >> navigate to the softwareinc_data >> managed open assembly-C-Sharp.dll

Idk if that might help but the documentation is pretty unclear so maybe seeing the functions actually put to use will help

[tropic kite]

You can open the dll's in visual studio too, so that is not really new to modders so far 🙂

[manic dirge]

https://tenor.com/view/walter-white-walter-crying-walter-dying-gif-20964719

[gloomy hound]

I woke up this morning and decided I'm going to update all of the OE-O mods with rebrands and stuff.

[tropic kite]

Early morning motivation is great 😁

[gloomy hound]

It'll take a while for me to get it organised lol

but it's something that needs doing

[sand summit]

any way to add particles to furniture ?

[karmic oracle]

only smoke afaik

might be wrong

go into the furniture editor and go click the button in the top right and tell me if there's anything else

[sand summit]

hmm, i was trying to make a campfire but it seems too complex

[eager plume]

How does the particle editor work, like what can u change from these particles

[karmic oracle]

There is no particle editor???

What are you talking about

[eager plume]

I read furniture editor as particke editor, my bad.

[sand summit]

i'm stuck in the materials part of the wiki

how do i add my own mats and textures ?

i know that i need to create a materials.tyd but i don't know how it should be structured

anyone has a template or something ?

[sand summit]

nvm

[karmic oracle]

did you find it?

it's in the materials menu near the top left in the furniture editor

[sand summit]

yup thanks

[sand summit]

[sand summit]

it works

[gaunt pumice]

is it animated

[sand summit]

i wish

[tropic kite]

😯😯😯

[eager plume]

Does it give any light or room boosts?

[sand summit]

yup, both, a little increase in mood and that's it, I thought of adding heating properties to it but no particles = no real campfire so I thought making it electric made more sense

[tropic kite]

You remember those fake fireplace fires you could have on tv? 😄

[karmic oracle]

no i wanted square selection not just dragging in one direction

[sand summit]

yeah lol

[eager plume]

How do i enable the option for expansion packs?

[eager plume]

Is there a visual mod maker?

I dont understand what it says?

[calm sage]

You're missing a variable name

[eager plume]

h i see

the type has to be below the NameGen?

[karmic oracle]

There is a visual mod maker but it's for Alpha 11.6 so before hardware and updates and addons and lots of other stuff

[sand summit]

minimum tris for performance ?

realized i have 10k lol

nvm brought it down to 1k

[karmic oracle]

i usually aim for anything under 100

but tbh there is no point in doing that

just go somewhere 400-600 and youll be fine

[sand summit]

max i could do was 800 💀

[eager plume]

What are you talking about? Fps?

[tropic kite]

Trianlges of a 3D model

[eager plume]

Oh

[karmic oracle]

how do get the light to make a sort of cone kenneth help

[eager plume]

The mod one doesnt even give any light?

[karmic oracle]

It does give out light, maybe I just need to punch up the strength of the light

But it doesn't create that conular light effect thing

[gaunt pumice]

you have to make it yourself in blender

[karmic oracle]

then what material do i apply to the cone?

[remote stratus]

Probably some kind of transmission? Not sure how that would work in game

[sand summit]

it looks so good but idk how to have the viewport shading at export 💀

[karmic oracle]

man idk how to explain since i learned blender through modding for swinc

but the only thing that will work in software inc is the model itself, and the uv mapping

the rest has to be done outside of blender

all other details must be added in the form of textures, be it the main, extra, or the normal

[sand summit]

yeah i asked in the blender discord but no luck

all viewport shading are just that, shaders

and since they are lightning dependant no way for me to replicate it with textures

is this still the current UV ?

[karmic oracle]

yeah but you can create your own textures

i usually just trace on the uv layout

[sand summit]

thanks

[sand summit]

i think i know how to add shading

🗿

[karmic oracle]

gib answer

How to do

[sand summit]

its broken

[karmic oracle]

Ah

[sand summit]

if u want to give it a try, create a geometry and bevel node with a vector math set to dot product like this

then, add a map range and set it to these values

ill just send the whole set up lol

[karmic oracle]

does it only show up in the viewport or is that to make the texture

[sand summit]

it's a material you have to bake it

[karmic oracle]

ah, thats cool
i've never played around with the nodes before 🙂

[sand summit]

don't it's annoying

i mean, kinda

im new to nodes and it's nightmare

[karmic oracle]

damnit i modded all over the game again

[remote stratus]

those round glass tables would be so useful so i can make glass meeting tables where are they in my software inc

[karmic oracle]

they will be in your software inc soon

[karmic oracle]

took longer to set up the snap points than the 3d model itself

hopefully the glass one should be a lot easier

[karmic oracle]

ok these are all the tables so far

2x2 circular table setup takes 9m^2 with 12 seats
while the 1x1 circular table takes 4m^2 with 6 seats

so i guess i accidentally created a new meta

[karmic oracle]

new diagonal ones

this is getting out of hand

[remote stratus]

if you release this mod, you should call it "yes tables"

because the amount of tables in the mod = yes

[karmic oracle]

yes

except no

office accessories

[eager plume]

Other wood types too?

[karmic oracle]

i dont think that would be needed

because you can repaint

or do you mean something else

[eager plume]

The desk color? Or the modular design?

[karmic oracle]

???

[eager plume]

You have a desk(2 wide) and a modular desk

[karmic oracle]

i dont

but i am planning on making a modular version of the brown desk later on

[eager plume]

Its in vannilla?

[karmic oracle]

the dark brown desk? yes

[tropic kite]

Duolingo training setup mod

[karmic oracle]

franz

NO

😭😭

[sand summit]

the streets need these

[karmic oracle]

What is causing the founder to teleport to there??

ive sent the map with the bug report 13034

any help would be appreciated

[calm sage]

Are you asking for help modding an unreleased, unfinished mechanic of the game? The fact that you can mod it is a bug that will be fixed in the next update

[karmic oracle]

Oh, kind of forgot it's not meant to be out until campaign
but i just want to know if this bug has anything to do with interaction points in general or just the bed sleeping one

[calm sage]

I have no idea, I haven't spent very long making it work, it was just a proof of concept, I just forgot to enable the "Only make this available in the dev build" toggle

[karmic oracle]

ah, well that's a shame

i guess i could suggest you to add a double bed in the actual update

[calm sage]

The bed only works for founders, so that'll be a pretty niche use-case

[karmic oracle]

fair

ok i guess i should be move onto other furnitures for the time being

[calm sage]

modding will be available for the bed once the campaign update releases, but it's still very far out

[karmic oracle]

will it work in the meantime between today and 1.7?

[calm sage]

yeah, but that won't be very long

[karmic oracle]

bruh

i was going to ask you something
but i remember you saying that every time i ask it
the chance of you adding it dwindles

[calm sage]

indirectly referencing it counts, I'm de-prioritizing it further right now

[karmic oracle]

NOO 😭

was it actually on a to-do list? lol

[calm sage]

probably somewhere, the to-do list goes on forever

[eager plume]

Kenneth just unreleases every feature @karmic oracle wants

[karmic oracle]

😢

[karmic oracle]

can you share 🥺

[eager plume]

Trello ig

[karmic oracle]

the trello isnt being updated anymore

[calm sage]

Trello will update when 1.7 releases

[karmic oracle]

can you ad-- nevermind

[calm sage]

priority--;

[karmic oracle]

lmao

[eager plume]

There are no priorities?

[karmic oracle]

ok gonna get the beds out in a mod today so i can start a petition for kenneth to keep beds in limbo while campaign is worked on

i would have also wished to petition for moddable [redacted], but i guess that's no longer going to work

[eager plume]

I would sign the petetion as long as it isnt windows doors or any type of furniture.

[karmic oracle]

moddable wi... --do... moddable... moddable mods!

i want to mod my mods

like that

[karmic oracle]

oh goodness

[gaunt pumice]

now make them cuddle

spoon if you will

[sand summit]

sims inc.

[karmic oracle]

update out: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2982907880

[remote stratus]

watch your mod get deleted by kenneth due to adding the beds

[karmic oracle]

KENNETH NOO DOJT DO IT 😭

dont

please

[gaunt pumice]

BROOO HE DELETED IT WTFFFF

NOOOOOOOOOOO

[left summit]

rip office accessories

[sand summit]

ay caramba

[karmic oracle]

lol it's still up

im logged out and i can still see the page

i dont think kenneth cares that much

[remote stratus]

look ma im famous

i never realised you put this in here, how neat

[karmic oracle]

#1 best mod kenneth please i really need this dont remove beds 🥺

[sand summit]

does this look like a legit plant

i'm not feeling it lol

[karmic oracle]

not really no 😅

grab the ends of each leaf and spread them around

might do the trick

[sand summit]

how

like

open them ?

[karmic oracle]

what i would do is just select the vertices then press g and shuffle them around a bit

[sand summit]

like this ?

[karmic oracle]

i guess
thats starting to look like something that's alive!!

[sand summit]

google recognizes it

[sand summit]

after some couple tweaks, i got it

[echo stump]

Hi everyone, I'm just starting out with data modding to see if I can get the hang of it. The wiki is helpful but I keep getting an error and I have no idea why. I'm taking "website" from the example file to test but simply changing the Spec from 2D to System gave me an error "...is using a previously used specialization: System". I thought that was the point? How am I supposed to make my own contracts with different specializations if by not changing this line? Or is there more to it than that? I checked the wiki and it seems to imply it's as simple as swapping out the name but no matter what I try I keep getting this error

[echo stump]

LOL NEVERMIND FIGURED IT OUT

[eager plume]

What was the problem?

[echo stump]

I was repeating specs that were later on in the .tyd file haha although I ran into a new problem. I wanted to make custom contracts for service skills like accounting, HR, and law but I don't think that's possible. Making an "Accounting" spec requirement generates a new development/programming skill called accounting instead. I know support and marketing skills have deal options but I don't see how to make those?

[karmic oracle]

which thumbnail is better for a thin window

these are meant to be viewed as small icons in the build menu, which is why they are at 128p

1 = double
2 = thin

[karmic oracle]

I would do anything to avoid the plans I set out for the next update

[remote stratus]

the second and fourth one looks like they'd be very useful

[karmic oracle]

i never use the leather couch

except that one time i used it

[wild kayak]

is modding this game easy, like as easy as hearts of iron 4 if anyone know what game that is (i made so many mods for that fucking game its laughable and they were all scraps almost 3k hours gone to modding that game, yet didnt release a single mod)

[karmic oracle]

I have sunk many hours into hoi4 😔

But yeah this game is pretty easy to mod

[ripe hare]

Alright lads, question for you guys. Is it possible to add a new line to revenue sheet for measuring different types of revenue?

If not no biggy, I do have some way to separate the revenue somewhat but was just interested in what is possible

[wild kayak]

It is addicting

Wasted a lot of time to that game

[karmic oracle]

most of my runs are literally restoring the megali idea

and sometimes i play the occasional random country in kaiserreich

[wild kayak]

I have 3k hours on it

Yet no achievements

[karmic oracle]

me neither 😄

[tropic kite]

lol, I got them all already

[karmic oracle]

bruh

do you only play as austria hungary in gwr and watch as the person you impersonate gets shot

[tropic kite]

I don't know what you are talking about. My name is Ferdihand.

[wild kayak]

Lol

Get killed

By 18 yr old serb

[karmic oracle]

What happened to angk500??

[echo stump]

Has anyone noticed that when making custom contracts, the game only picks the first few alphabetical ones in the folder and never includes the rest? I made like 20 contracts to test and only the first 4 or 5 alphabetical ones ever show up in game. Anyway to make it more random to include everything? Or is it just unfixable at this point?

[tropic kite]

Serbs

[tropic kite]

How exactly is that implememted? Do you add them with the OG contracts, or are those additional files?

[karmic oracle]

When I was making cntrct, I noticed a similar issue

[calm sage]

Currently it'll pick which contract there's least of, but if there are several it'll default to the order in which they are defined. I'll try reshuffling it before picking a new contract for the next update

[karmic oracle]

thanks

[karmic oracle]

im finally moving forward with the description redesign and i thought of using images for headers instead of plain old text

i know that i somehow fucked it up and ended up with each one at a different font size, but it's just a proof of concept

also for the addons & sister mods part i was thinking of making a mosaic of sorts with a bunch of different embed images that link to their respective workshop pages when clicked

so is this a good idea or should i make some adjustments?

[tropic kite]

Fancy

[karmic oracle]

Franzy

[gaunt pumice]

you have to mix and match the font because the poll was a tie tho

[karmic oracle]

not anymore i can still remove my vote lol

[gaunt pumice]

noooooooo

[karmic oracle]

ill put it back just for simplicity's sake

but i might look into using the uppercase theme for the text headers only

[eager plume]

no

[tropic kite]

no

[karmic oracle]

why

not

[eager plume]

no

[karmic oracle]

no ☹️

[tropic kite]

yes

[eager plume]

yes

[karmic oracle]

😃

[tropic kite]

but no

[karmic oracle]

you know what

i will hold your veteran role hostage

you have 12 hours to give it to me

or else i will take it anyway

[tropic kite]

nah

[karmic oracle]

mods can give role

@mods

plz

[karmic oracle]

going to reply back to here so new people can give me more advice

[remote stratus]

I like this idea

This new little look is nice. You should do this with construction accessories as well

[karmic oracle]

i definitely will

and i also have to rewrite the old cntrct description

it wasn't even updated for 0.30, nevermind the 1.0 update

[echo stump]

I just made a separate mod folder for the new contracts

[echo stump]

Does this mean more contracts will be available each day and they will be randomized to include all contracts available? Or should I just keep my mod to ~5 contracts?

[sand summit]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/896629199291437056.png?size=48

[tropic kite]

Cozy

[sand summit]

yh coming soon to the workshop

spice up outdoors

[karmic oracle]

had this idea for a farming mod (was supposed to come out before construction accessories)
where you would till some grass outside and then place seeds that would provide 1 food for an employee each month kind of like a fridge
and the employees would walk all the way to the fields to eat the food
im pretty sure that it's feasible without any code mod but idk if that's something people would care about. what do u guys think

[karmic oracle]

sugesstion: split the fire and stone into separate obj's, then enable shadows on the stone so it looks more realistic

[karmic oracle]

thats gonna have to come after ctrlcompute (!) though

[calm sage]

Contract amount will stay the same for balancing purposes, it just means different contract types will be picked more evenly

[karmic oracle]

LightAddition 1 PunchHoleThroughWall [ 0; 1 ] InsideWallMeshes Mesh OutsideWallMeshes Mesh

how do you format punchholethroughwall

[calm sage]

it's a bool

[karmic oracle]

is it a boolean

oh

do i put true

[calm sage]

yeah, if you want it to punch a hole in the wall

[karmic oracle]

ok thats what i was aiming for

does it punch out the wall overlapping with the mesh

[calm sage]

it punches it out based on it's width on the wall. You need InsideWallMeshes and OutsideWallMeshes to add back some of the wall above and below

[karmic oracle]

how would that work

[calm sage]

you just create the mesh that should be there. Like this for the window

the game will figure out UVs

[karmic oracle]

just plain meshes? ok

[calm sage]

yeah, one-sided preferably

[karmic oracle]

is there a way to make 2 sided planes???

[calm sage]

oh my bad. They should not be direct mesh references, but references to objects with a meshfilter component that has the mesh, so you just create one mesh, add it to two new gameobjects with the mesh filter components and move and rotate them to each side

[karmic oracle]

can you explain in simpler terms? 😅

also it works

[calm sage]

you need to add new transforms in your tyd file. And then add MeshFilter tables with the new transforms as their parent and "sharedMesh" set to the filename of the mesh you want to use

[karmic oracle]

something like this?

but for this?

[calm sage]

like this, haven't tested if it works btw

[karmic oracle]

ok

and i do that for the outside mesh too?

[calm sage]

yeah, add another transform and another meshfilter, and just make sure the other transform is rotated 180 around the y axis

the position should probably be something like [ 0; 0; 0.1 ] and [ 0; 0; -0.1 ] to align them with the rest of the wall

[karmic oracle]

right because the wall is 0.2 thick

ill test that out in a bit
but while i still have you, could you also help me with figuring out the interactmesh variable? or is that something thats still not finished

[calm sage]

like this

the interact mesh changes the mesh of the furniture when it's being interacted with, to make the bed sheets bulge. Not all furniture types use the interaction stuff

sorry the transforms should be like this

[karmic oracle]

wouldve had all the wall on one side lol

ok, could you help me by showing me how to format that though?

this is what i got
InteractChangeMesh SleepPoint1 InteractChangeMesh SleepPoint2 InteractMesh "Models/Slept-Bed.obj" DefaultMesh "Models/Bed.obj"

[calm sage]

you can only have one InteractChangeMesh

[karmic oracle]

ah

but what do i have to write after that? a mesh, an interaction point, or something else

[calm sage]

nothing

[karmic oracle]

i just leave it blank and the game knows to use the interactmesh when the founder sleeps because of its furniture type?

[calm sage]

leave what blank? Are you using the editor? InteractChangeMesh should be a model object that should have its mesh changed. Whenever an object is interacted with it will change its mesh. It should also work for stuff like coffee machines, etc.

The editor has tooltips to explain it as well

[karmic oracle]

is it there?

ah found it

[calm sage]

how else did you find it?

[karmic oracle]

from setting the base to bed in the furniture editor

[calm sage]

ahh

[karmic oracle]

saving it then randomly found those fields empty in the tyds

is it on the wiki as well?

[calm sage]

nah, it's not documented, it's only for the bed, which isn't in the game yet technically

[karmic oracle]

right

are you still planning on removing it from being base-able? 😦

from setting it as a base

from basing your furniture on it

[calm sage]

yes, until it's officially out, because it's untested and buggy

[karmic oracle]

i like levitating founders

[calm sage]

the animation is placeholder, as I'm sure you've noticed?

[karmic oracle]

yeah i have to remove the single bed anyway when you release the update but it's fun to play with

got it working, thanks

ok thanks a lot for the modding help

i guess i wont have to bother you about moddable windows anymore

though moddable doors are still going to be needed

[sand summit]

tried but it always ended with bugged lighting

[karmic oracle]

thats a shame :/

did you keep shadows off on the fire?

[sand summit]

yeah

[karmic oracle]

hmm

[karmic oracle]

2.1 update out: Armchairs n' stuff

[icy raptor]

no moddable doors

bad

[karmic oracle]

yes moddable windows
good

[karmic oracle]

kenneth help how to

<color=red><b>text</b></color>

does that work

is it another format

or does it not work for modded furniture

because i want to do that with my description

for the warning

[eager plume]

Bro calculated the chances

[karmic oracle]

ok

moddable windows achieved!! 🎉🎇 🥂 🎊

Glaring issues that I will now beg Kenneth to help me with:

1: The boundaries are a bit broken so i cant place windows on the edge
2: The game doesn't show the orange construction box when placing the window like the vanilla ones
3: The game doesn't treat it like a window so this raises a number of issues:
. . . 3.1: Toggling opaque windows in the options menu does not affect them
. . . 3.2: Save game previews do not display the Thin Window like the other windows
. . . 3.3: Selecting them treats them as furniture and not segments
4: They can not be selected from higher floors

[karmic oracle]

please i beg of you help me to fix these 😭😢 🙏 😭🥺 😭😭🙏

dont mind me having fun with

headers lol

ok yes i still need hlep

[tropic kite]

This man needs help

[karmic oracle]

i do need help

just for the windows though

nothing else

im fine myself

but i need windows to help

[sand summit]

how to make extra map

got overload of blender and can't think straight

[karmic oracle]

Kemmeth h4lp we botg are havung troyvle

Thank God for autocorrect

[eager plume]

Why u thanking god for shit u dont use?

[karmic oracle]

because thats the difference between me using and not using autocorrect

[sand summit]

https://tenor.com/view/perro-perrofly-dead-chat-goofy-ahh-goofy-dog-gif-26346139

extra map tutorial cuz im dumb

[karmic oracle]

oh right

actually nvm i never made one

only stole from kemmeth

[sand summit]

lol

[eager plume]

Monkey tricks monkey

[karmic oracle]

why you sayong im a moneky? this is lies

[eager plume]

Nah i got proof

See?

[karmic oracle]

fucking you

stop it

[sand summit]

kenneth me not understand

[karmic oracle]

i assume you already looked at the wiki

so i guess kenneth might be the only one who can help you

but i wont be the one to ping him

get the guy who pings me 20 times a day

[tropic kite]

What is the issue? RGB are the three base colors the image consists of.
Alpha is a visibility/transparancy mask. Black = can't see. Grey = Can see it a bit, White = Can see it fully.

[sand summit]

i just don't know how to make extra maps

im confused thats all

[karmic oracle]

There is also an ExtraMap record, which allows you to control smoothness with the Red channel, Emission strength with the Green channel and finally the Blue channel controls whether to use the color in the main texture as is or map it to the player color. The Blue channel of this texture will allow you to have static colors on parts of your furniture, while still allowing for player coloring. Having an ExtraMap makes the shader ignore the alpha channel of the main texture

Red = Smoothness
Green = Emission
Blue = Keep the colour (for like a logo)

[sand summit]

yeah, i get that but how do i make them, like do i just color stuff red, green and blue ?

💀

[karmic oracle]

yeha

export your uv layout

and paint over it

[karmic oracle]

ctrlcompiute
the mod that might have led to the furniture editor
because i kept on annoying kenneth about modding

[karmic oracle]

coming 2025

also technically in development since 2020

Also I want ideas for computers

What I have so far are:
IBM 5150
Commodore 64
Macintosh (128K & 512K)
Apple Lisa

But I need more ideas for 90s and 00s computers

[eager plume]

Real pc's?

[karmic oracle]

Yes

[eager plume]

Def not AI generated. Certainly! Here's a list of some notable PCs from the 1990s and 2000s:

1990s:

1. Commodore Amiga 500/600/1200: Iconic home computers known for multimedia capabilities and gaming.

2. IBM ThinkPad 700C: A popular laptop series known for its "butterfly" keyboard.

3. Packard Bell Legend 300SX: Affordable home desktop computers that gained popularity in the mid-90s.

4. Gateway 2000 Destination: Early all-in-one multimedia PCs with built-in speakers and CRT displays.

5. Apple Power Macintosh G3: Part of Apple's transition to PowerPC processors, marking a significant era for the company.

6. Dell Dimension XPS T700R: Dell's high-performance desktop series featuring Intel Pentium processors.

7. Compaq Presario 5000: A line of desktop computers with various configurations and features.

2000s:

1. Apple iMac G4: Known for its unique design with a pivoting LCD display on a "floating arm."

2. Sony VAIO PCG-C1: A compact and stylish subnotebook with a built-in digital camera.

3. Dell Inspiron 600m: A popular mid-range laptop series with a focus on portability and performance.

4. HP Pavilion zd8000: A desktop replacement laptop with a large display and multimedia features.

5. Compaq Evo D510: Business-oriented desktop computers with various configurations and expansion options.

6. IBM ThinkCentre M51: Part of IBM's line of business desktops known for their durability and manageability.

7. Gateway 700XL: High-end desktop systems with advanced multimedia capabilities and processing power.

These are just a few examples of the many PCs that were popular during the 1990s and 2000s. Each of these computers has its own unique features and played a role in shaping the technology landscape of their respective decades.

[karmic oracle]

👀 i think the dell computers might actually be good

same with the amigas

thanks chatgpt niels

been a year since i last touched this mod too 😅

[icy raptor]

chatgpt's answer format

[eager plume]

Nah, i always answer those kind of questions in this format

[icy raptor]

lies

[eager plume]

#suggestions ?

[icy raptor]

overcomplicating it

fleshes out games too much

[eager plume]

Nah

I meant format of text

[icy raptor]

you didnt bold it

discrepancy

its clearly more informal

[eager plume]

Okay

[eager plume]

Wdym?

[eager plume]

Not really, could be implemented after the development of the game, just like the dlcs rn

[icy raptor]

where are the options to have good products

theres like 1

and it already exists

[karmic oracle]

LMFAO i only just saw that message

i personally like serbs

since one of them led to the transfer of western thrace to greece

but apart from that

im not too much of a fan

also i need help for my cntrct description require ||how the fuck did i misspell rewrite so bad it became a different word||

[karmic oracle]

i dont know if this is good or not

i might need to run it through chatgpt

but is the first sentence good: The contract mod.

when you first read it, did you read it as "zee contract mod" or "zuh contract mod" ||if i put 'th' it looks weird dont mind the z||

i want it to come across as zee

but idk if i have to make it "The. Contract. Mod." to make that clear

[eager plume]

@karmic oracle how do u make ur logos for the mods?

[karmic oracle]

i put them into the computer

and i get the logos

just use an raster image editing programme with layers like paint.net, photoshop, or gimp

i personally use paint.net, because it's simple and easy
but for finer details i use photoshop

gimp... i -uhh... stay away from

[wild kayak]

why no work??/??//

depth gaming no work

[karmic oracle]

because i think it adds game engines and expanse already does that

[wild kayak]

ah ok

[karmic oracle]

kbyboard

keybaord

boardkey

(stolen from the 90s computer asset)

(will be stealing the monitor from that too)

[sand summit]

cool

[sand summit]

can u make this possible 🙏

[tropic kite]

Ooh, the old curvy keyboards that would be cool 😄

[karmic oracle]

Ahh the computers are the priority since you can't attach the peripherals to the vanilla conputers

[karmic oracle]

monitor half done (i cant find the curved screen model in the assets)

[karmic oracle]

mmm supercomputers

how could i get supercomputers to work?

usually the desk is a few metres away from the main computer

but i cant have the desk and computer be separate or else there wont be the computer power bonus thing

[tropic kite]

Could you not just offset it? Like it being 5 blocks away from the desk itself?

[karmic oracle]

that could work

[tropic kite]

Though every workplace would need it's own supercomputer 😕

[karmic oracle]

not if i make it like 50000$ each or something

[remote stratus]

Make it a server

[tropic kite]

Do you think the bonus can be much higher than it is already? 😄

[karmic oracle]

goes up to 1000%

default is 100

[remote stratus]

Make that 10000% to get that nice game crash

[karmic oracle]

No point in doing that because people could just instantly develop products

[tropic kite]

You missed the 'crash' point 😛

[karmic oracle]

The game won't lpad it

Load

I think

[tropic kite]

See?

😆

[karmic oracle]

Yeah so it won't even crahs

It'll be an error in the console

Or idk

I'll try it tomorrow I guess

[karmic oracle]

But if it doesn't work you have to give me your veteran role

[sand summit]

yooo that so cool

[karmic oracle]

hehe

insanely powerful

with a max skill employee (maybe like 30% higher skill than high salary employees)
i can finish one iteration of an operating system in an hour

lights turn off when the employee isnt there too

[karmic oracle]

textures done

should i make it so burglars can steal it or would that be too cruel

[remote stratus]

if you make it so that it can be burgled make it $5,000,000

[karmic oracle]

i set the price to 800k

but because computer prices change with time it's broken

or something

i think it's just multiplying it by 8 since it's 800% power

yeah its that

[remote stratus]

well in that case if you make it burglable just make it 81% of the price it is now

so 800K * 0.81 = 648,000

[karmic oracle]

i will make it 100000$ so the final price is 800k

[eager plume]

Just have a small onz in the beginning copy the texture, add another release your, increase the size?

[karmic oracle]

??

[eager plume]

Make 1 for the year 1980(ingame), make it smaller than the normal one, make a 2nd bigger than the one from 1980. Make it release in 1990, increase specs. Now it "changes" by time

[karmic oracle]

computers automatically get weaker with each year

there is no need for that

and i dont think i will make any super computers for before 1985

[eager plume]

Wdym? Each year since release or each year since being placed?

[eager plume]

The year was just a suggestion

[karmic oracle]

release of the computer

i already set it to 1985 since that's when the CM-1 it's based off of was unveiled

ok i changed it

[sand summit]

too big to steal in my opinion

[karmic oracle]

Yeah but they also steal the fire alarms

So I think they would just bring their car in an load it in with brute force or someyjin

Soemtjing

Somehont

Something

[eager plume]

Let them steal it, if they can carry 20+ pc from 1980 they can carry a supercomputer

[karmic oracle]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3019965306
yooo

first time i see someone using my mods in a workshop page

beds too lol

[tropic kite]

😄😄😄

[karmic oracle]

Oop and it finally dethroned my mod to take the front spot

It sat there for like a week and a half just racking up downloads

After I posted about the mod here, a few people checked it out, but it was enough to make steam put it on the front page

Also would it be fine if I spammed the workshop with addons

[icy raptor]

nuh uh scummy

just build it in lol 🙂

or actually have like good content in each, categorise them

[karmic oracle]

i know not many people would want a road signs, so thats why i think i should make it into an addon

same with my neoclassic stuff, since most people want to avoid legacy stuff

i guess ill just work on what i want and see what i end up with

[icy raptor]

give me extra bus stops 😄

[karmic oracle]

i never follow my plans so this might as well be useless (ctrlcompute)

^^proven by me working on super computers which were meant for the main release before even finishing any other computer

also give me ideas for more accessories mods
what i have so far are:

🟠 Construction Accessories
🔵 Office Accessories
🟢 Garden Accessories

Realm of uncertainty:

🟡 Household Accessories
🔵 Bathroom Accessories
🟣 Kitchen Accessories
⚪ Lighting Accessories

this also means i will have to move furniture around between mods

like beds from office to household

and fountains from construction to garden or office

[eager plume]

Cant u do it like u do with litlle kids? I can only buy or do this when i have done this and that. Ofc dont make it your number 1 priority but i think a lot of ppl really like your mods, so making more/adding more content, are really enjoyed by the community.

[eager plume]

Bathromm Accessories sound kinda necessary, lighting also sounds fun.

[eager plume]

Pls, i u havent done it yet make it a collection

[karmic oracle]

there is a collection that includes cntrct and neoclassic

[karmic oracle]

aw, thanks
when it comes to modding, i just go with the flow
i often avoid adding certain features even though i really want to see them implemented

^^ like with the nightstand, which shouldve only taken an hour

[eager plume]

For bathroom(idk if its possible) add soap dispenser which lowers the amount of sick ppl by like 10 percent

[karmic oracle]

i don't think that works unfortunately

most, if not all of the features, furniture mods are able to use, are only added to serve vanilla furniture

[eager plume]

Cant u combine it woth a code mod?

[karmic oracle]

can i learn c# in a week? probably not 😄

im sure it's possible with a code mod but i'm not the right person for that

[eager plume]

Things i would like to see(not specificly to F): More types of lights, more bathroom things(special toilets idk), and some more usefull kitchen thingies.

[eager plume]

U probably can, depends on how many hours ofc. I think u can just search "Full C# tutorial" on yt and find one of around 20 hours

[karmic oracle]

i did

it didnt work

[eager plume]

Wdym

[karmic oracle]

i learn better when i either do lessons every day for a year or write it all down

it simply didnt get stuck into my brain

i did do a duolingo for python for about a month

but it was also useless
what i need to do is just try it myself, like what i did with blender

[eager plume]

Try to make the mod, with like 30 min a day on the mod u could probably make it in max a month

[karmic oracle]

i want to try first with a simpler language like python, but that's still after i do the top priority things, which are ctrlcompute and garden accessories

ykw im just gonna start making the logo for garden accessories rq

[eager plume]

If u need any ideas or suggestions feel free to tag or dm me

[karmic oracle]

thanks 😄
im gonna make a post soon about garden (or farming) accessories soon

yeah im sticking with garden

ok see you in like 30 minutes

[eager plume]

If im not asleep yet, yes. Otherwise : Cya

[half pike]

hi , i want translate to my native language ( not available in localizor list ) , i change xml but i think game read .tyd file . how build this file from xml ?

i changed it manually and it shows text but because it not support RTL , it has problem . i think this problem will happened in arabic too .

i fix it manually writing it in reverse and with connected letter. this game not support fully utf8 and RTL language .

https://github.com/danielHero307/Software-Inc-Game---Persian

[karmic oracle]

Kabob!!!

You can ask Kenneth to add Persian to localizor and I think that might handle this issue since Arabic is already on therr

Plus others can assist

[wild kayak]

Is there a mod that let's you put descriptions on your products

I know it won't change any gameplay

It's just something that I want lol

To make the roleplaying aspect more realistic or smthm

[half pike]

@calm sage Hi, sorry for mentioning you, but I have a request. Is it possible to add Persian to the localizer or Give a suggestion for fixing the RTL error in translation?

[karmic oracle]

kenneth do it for the kabob

the all of iran is waiting for you to do this

[calm sage]

I'm sorry, but there's no way I can get Unity or just the UI in general to work with RTL 😕

[karmic oracle]

then how does arabic work with localizor

[calm sage]

dunno, haven't really had time to think about it, so probably not very well

[karmic oracle]

hmm ok

[eager plume]

test

Tf

nuh uh

ovel

Love

Idk

[karmic oracle]

yes

[eager plume]

And what about a rtlo character?

https://youtu.be/nIcRK4V_Zvc?si=AYq2ZCpF2TsdoOVI 0:54

[eager plume]

Doesnt work in discord, but i used it for a .docx file and i named the file “NotWord”(check screenshot)

[echo stump]

ay I posted that lol

[karmic oracle]

got them working again

steve isnt doing too well after being woken up

oop he went back to sleep

[karmic oracle]

still need

[sand summit]

jus like me after 3am 💯

[eager plume]

how do i know if my mod is balanced?

[tropic kite]

You test it

[karmic oracle]

Please consult my #1144731720021712916

[past stag]

thats sick'

[karmic oracle]

can i copy this from expanse's description

or is that paragraph copyrighted as well

im also completely clueless on how to protect my mods

does the steam subscriber agreement already cover the bit that says "dont reupload or copy other peoples' mods" ?

also what is the mit license thing license thing thing

i know theres more than mit but thats the only one that came to mind

[remote stratus]

Just use denuvo

[karmic oracle]

hmm what's that

this is all i have for construction accessories lol

it's a README.txt file

and i forgor to add one to office accessories 💀

[daring solar]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MIT_License

A MIT License would be exactly the opposite of what you want 😄

[daring solar]

as long as you're the copyright owner/creator of the mod and no specific license is added nobody is allowed to copy/edit/reupload your mods

[karmic oracle]

Ok so I dont have to put a license?

[daring solar]

No

[sand summit]

anyone has a founder model to check some measurements ?

[karmic oracle]

like the model used for employees?

idk either ask kenneth for it or go looking for it

also is this even a good idea?

if so does it belong to construction or office accessories

(the crate is already in construction accessories)

^^
i will also make a stackable version

[eager plume]

Maybe something to increase conveyor speed(boxes are on conveyors normally)?

[south lion]

id say construction

[karmic oracle]

I can't do tyat with just a furniture mod

And you can already increase speed by spending more money on the tier 2 and 3 conveyors

[gaunt pumice]

@eager plume have you finished the porn mod yet bro?

[karmic oracle]

he changed his profile picture to fit the theme of his mod

[eager plume]

What do u want in it?

How balanced should it be?

[eager plume]

Nah, that ws bcs a friend of mine told me to change it to something more mature

When uploading images or workshop content, you should adhere to the following guidelines:
Don’t upload inappropriate content. Examples include:
Real or disturbing depictions of violence;
Content that exploits children in any way; and
Sexually explicit content. This does not forbid game content posted in its own game hub.

[eager plume]

Could someone smart explain it to me?

[gaunt pumice]

like being able to make a porn website or application and being able to make pornos

[gaunt pumice]

and it isnt sexually explicit content cuz its just text (that means you cant have nude people in ur mod)

like this mod but for porn https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3032786983

and maybe if you want to do 3d modeling let us manufacture auto blows

[daring solar]

Depends on the day some support guy on Steam has after someone flagged your mod I guess

I wouldn't risk it on my own profile, for sure 😄

But there is always the option to flag it as sexual content

X-rated. Sexual Content.
This content contains depictions of explicit or detailed sexual acts suitable for adults only.

is an option in the workshop for example

[karmic oracle]

hehe i can just upload the localizations as my own

[icy raptor]

disgusting

[eager plume]

If i add Chance in Company Type above 1 does it stop development? witht he software part

The types of products the company will release and how much effort they take(Chance). 1 means they can only work one product of that software type at any given time, 0.25 means they would be able to work on 4 of it at a time. You can define a category for each type, otherwise a random will be chosen from the categories available from the software type. You can also add the record Force True which will make the game force a product out immediately when the game starts, if possible, which is currently used to make sure there is an OS available on day 1. (swinc wiki)

[karmic oracle]

why did i tell chatgpt who i was

(CtrlCompute) (mod)

[sand summit]

💀

[eager plume]

Ill make it, the profit will be low bcs i dont knox how to optimize it, i wont upload it on my main steam acc. If u want i can tag u when its on steam

I will upload it on my main i just realised

I am not spending 22 bucks for 1 mod

Does anyone wanna make the thumbnail for a 18+ mod? I really suck at that

[karmic oracle]

😔

also @keeneht did you delete the legacy modding channel or is it archived and hidden

[karmic oracle]

god damn it man i never have wall space in my elevator rooms

i cant place fire alarms

im just gonna make a roof fire alarm

[slate elk]

Does anyone know what property defines a products current quality in the design phase, or a quality cap ?

[icy raptor]

nuh uh

[karmic oracle]

Then don't get the mod

[slate elk]

Anyone know why (and what controls it) some bugs just cant be fixed ? my team stops working at 137 fixed bugs, but the bugs property is at 143. This only really happens on big items of work. (Testing on contracts)

[eager plume]

Maybe their system or other specializations are not high enough. Did you try releasing the update and starting a new one?

[slate elk]

Maybe, but these are 4 founders with almost max dev skill, and 3 star specs. I need to do some more testing and see if the remaining bugs show up as missed. Wondering if there's a difficulty setting that affects how many you need to fix.

After some testing, if i finish the contract with 137 / 143 bugs, it gets 0 missed bugs, so not sure whats going on.

[dapper marlin]

I think that's like the "Total bug" you'll get once it's released, with the support.
You can only get that much bugs out before release, iirc

[karmic oracle]

that was removed afaik

maybe im wrong

[slate elk]

that would make sense. Gotta see if theres a way to calculate the bugs during beta. There must be something that stops it progressing.

[dapper marlin]

I mean, that would be logic : IRL, only consumers will be able to try the most unexpected, dumb thing that would cause a certain bug that went under the radar throughout 3 years of testing

[slate elk]

yep, but what property decided to stop at this number. it varies slightly between contracts (ive had 137/143, 121/124). Its also a hard stop, as it hits that number (121) all work stops. any help from @calm sage ?

[dapper marlin]

Yeah, seems like 3-5% of total bugs are missing during dev phase, based on these 2 alone

[slate elk]

ill just hardcode a 90% limit for now till i can figure it out.

[dapper marlin]

Even with the trainer that's supposed to "fix all bug" during dev phase, I still have some more once the product is released

[strong canyon]

So is there anything special needed to get mods to work for multiplayer or no?
Also how does it work, does every client need the mods or just the host?

[slate elk]

how do you upload / update a mod to steam. is it just via the in game window ?

[karmic oracle]

yeah

[slate elk]

bit lost on how to upload a thumbnail for my mod ? anyone know how

[sand summit]

in the root folder of your mod, put your thumbnail as thumbnail.png

[slate elk]

thanks, i read to title it the same as the mod but didnt work

[karmic oracle]

Linux is case sensitive and there already were some issues with that with one of noxes mods

So make it Thumbnail.tyd with a capital T

[karmic oracle]

kenneth fix yo' game

(material mats coloured in the shade of green) (not grass) (it's not a bug)

[cosmic prairie]

How do I add mods to the DRM version?

[tropic kite]

I believe there was a website that let you download mods from the steam workshop

You can then add them in the game fold inside a sub folder called furniture, dll or mods? Not sure what the third folder name was for datamods

[karmic oracle]

Furniture for furniture

Mods for data mods

Dll mods for code mlds

[cosmic prairie]

more of the applying mods part of it

[karmic oracle]

Wydm

Wdym

[cosmic prairie]

I need help applying the mods to the game

[karmic oracle]

enabling them in-game or getting them into your software inc folder?

[cosmic prairie]

getting them into the folder

Dont worry anymore i just decided to buy the steam version

atleast the dev got a double paycheck ig

[tropic kite]

It's really just adding the folders in the game's main folder and putting the mods inside, that's it 🙂

But if you decide to pay twice, I guess I won't complain 😄

[karmic oracle]

does kenneth offer refunds for the drm-free version?

[cosmic prairie]

I mean when I tried to use the DRM free version on my main Mac

It didn’t work

So I tried my older one

And works just fine

And I would prefer to have higher fps and whatnot on my main

[cosmic prairie]

Wait I got a question

Is there a mod that adds metal support?

Cuz I’d be running billions of fps if there was

[karmic oracle]

afaik no

[cosmic prairie]

That’s sad

[slate elk]

Does anyone know a good way to communicate code mode updates in game ?

[slate elk]

Is there anyway to make the options tab longer?

[karmic oracle]

Reposting here because I want people to tell me what they think
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1148418724483833957/1156053562539913226/image.png?ex=65139247&is=651240c7&hm=2cbd2f91e9aa74ce49efb043946f17257fda6b323271bd1f492a65bc9cbb469e&

ok this is good enough for a 3.0

Globe (SquawkaZ)
Rubix's Cube
Pen holder (SquawkaZ)
Miniature car
Crayon Drawing (SquawkaZ)
Post-it notes
Fidget spinner
Notepad
Candles
Lava lamp
Table Bamboo
Salt lamp
Hourglass
Ping Pong table
Pool table
Snowglobe (maybe)
Pile of money (maybe)

[tropic kite]

CF is boosting update after update

Mad men