tech

[agile ermine]

?

[compact cove]

most 2700x have issues hitting 4.2, meanwhile most 9700k/9900k can easily hit 5ghz

[agile ermine]

???

what are you talking about

[compact cove]

you said ryzen has higher overclocks

[agile ermine]

I was talking about your own example

[compact cove]

then how is 3.9 higher than 4.5?

[agile ermine]

...

im talking about the percentage of improvement

[compact cove]

since i was talking about single core scores

most i managed to get on my 2600 is 4050mhz which is 150mhz over turbo

my husband managed to reach 4700mhz on his 6700k which is 500mhz over turbo

[agile ermine]

max turbo doesn't count, as its not applied on all cores

[compact cove]

🤦

most chips within the last 4-5 years can do all core oc on all cores

[agile ermine]

yeah, and?

[compact cove]

so how is the percentage of improvement higher on ryzen when it can barely go beyond its rated turbo clock?

you see what im trying to say?

[agile ermine]

because you have to take the base clocks, and not the turbo clocks, as its not applied on all cores

yeah, but thats not how it works

[compact cove]

you dont care about turbo clock when you oc....

[agile ermine]

because you also have to think about power draw limitations, thermal limitations... and all the cores might not be equal

[compact cove]

turbo clock is a point of reference as to how much its 'safe' to oc

[wide temple]

Clock speed doesn't matter lol, you can't use that as a comparison

Reason why Intel chips have such high clock speeds is because that's the only way for them to gain higher performance

Either way, I'll be looking forward to the benches, as I'm pretty sure the AMD chips will be better value and will also be better for games as they move to using multiple cores

Also not forgetting that Sony are using AMD for the next generation Playstation, and those improvements can be had on PC games as well due to them using the same architecture

[agile ermine]

ryzen will probably keep their great price/perfs ratio, but only if you use x470 mobos... the new x570 ones are expensive af

[compact cove]

mobo prices already leaked here on a few store websites

strix x570-f is about 40% more expensive than strix x470-f

3800x seems to be around 400 euros (19% vat included)

[agile ermine]

I've got a website that already lists the 5 ryzen coming out on sunday

and x570 mobos aren't expected to cost less than 200€ in France

470€ for the ryzen 7 3800X, 20% VAT included... but the seller usually makes bigger margins than average, so it should cost 450 or 460€

[dire oasis]

Anyway, i wanna get the Energy Star logo, my childhood about waiting this logo for playing cs 1.5 and gta vice city :D Good old days...

[hasty nova]

Guys when I get my cpu, should I buy one of them anti static straps ?

[spiral yew]

yea that would be a good idea

and wear shoes with rubber soles if your on carpet and use a plastic table

[willow rain]

https://twitter.com/Radeon/status/1147248833556099072

Radeon RX (@Radeon)

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[agile ermine]

Thats 50$ off for each card, right?

Interesting...

[hasty nova]

@spiral yew what about a wooden table

[unkempt swan]

It is a shitty line-up, i think everyone knew it from the start

[real gulch]

^^^^^

[unkempt swan]

I mean, almost everyone

[hasty nova]

What do you mean ?

[real gulch]

Ping

Pingu

You bought a second hand CPU directly from intel?

They don’t do that? Nani?

[hasty nova]

I'm confused now

What do you mean shity line up ?

[real gulch]

Bad lineup of GPU’s from AMD

[hasty nova]

Ohhhh

[real gulch]

Bad product line

[unkempt swan]

AMD's Navi

[hasty nova]

I thought you were talking about me

[real gulch]

lol no

[unkempt swan]

Negative

Anyway, i don't advice using second hand GPU with such temps

[hasty nova]

Anyway, my old cpu was a Pentium G4560

No I'm not

Idle, its ok

When it comes to games

[real gulch]

Especially since it was bought 3rd party

[hasty nova]

The cpu temp rockets

To 80- 85

[real gulch]

85 is the limit for intel

They automatically slow down performance after that

It’s intel technology

[hasty nova]

Well, when I get a better cooler that temp should stay down to 60

[real gulch]

Or so you hope

[hasty nova]

Its wierd

Becusse my old cpu never got that hot

Only with this one it reached 80 degrees

[real gulch]

Probably because of performance increase

[hasty nova]

I dont think I did anything wrong with putting thermal paste

[wide temple]

It shouldn't be running that hot at all

Check with CPU-Z to make sure you weren't sold a fake

[agile ermine]

whats the cooler you're actually using pingu?

[real gulch]

He could’ve just optimised it weirdly @wide temple

@gritty fjord You ready for the British GP next week?

[hasty nova]

@agile ermine standard stock CPU cooler

@wide temple how do I know if I've been sold a fake?

[agile ermine]

@hasty nova if you're using the stock intel cooler it explains why you're running at 80°C

intel cooler is garbage

[wide temple]

shouldn't be running that hot on a non-OC processor though

download CPU-Z

[hasty nova]

Yea but the thing is with my old Pentium G4560 I could run GTA V and I would never get those temps or that roar from the cpu cooler I'm hearing with the new cpu

[agile ermine]

because thats a pentium...

[wide temple]

The stock cooler is LOUD, its just that it never had to cool as hard before

What thermal paste did you use?

[hasty nova]

Its called hainziye

[wide temple]

Oh... that looks really cheap

Buy something decent like Thermal Grizzly Kyronaut

[hasty nova]

But that doesn't make any sense that a 2 core cpu runs better than a 4 core i5 ?

[wide temple]

What do you mean by runs better?

[hasty nova]

The temps were much lower

[wide temple]

Think about it logically, the new CPU you have has more processing power, therefore it'll generate more heat

The cooler you have can also only cool to its thermal limit

[hasty nova]

I'm thinking about taking it apart again and re apply the paste

Ok I'm going to open up cpu z

Well...

It's not a fake

Looks like I need a new cpu cooler then

Shame, I really want to get into some games, but if the cpu cooler is on the rev line on the Menu screen of Squad then I dont think it's a good idea to take it into a full game

[wide temple]

I honestly think that it's not the cooler but the thermal paste you're using

You have an non overclockable processor and you're hitting such high temps

Bearing in mind that this is the same cooler Intel shipped with retail units of the CPU you have

Buy some Kyronaut or MX4, its super cheap (less than £5)

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Thermal-Grizzly-Kryonaut-thermal-grease/dp/B011F7W3LU/ref=sr_1_1?crid=25JHUXHXNADP6&keywords=kyronaut&qid=1562421923&s=gateway&sprefix=kyron%2Caps%2C142&sr=8-1
This is what I use. Kyronaut is one of the top tier pastes you can use

[hasty nova]

Do you think it could be thermal paste ?

I mean on idle the temps are fine

[wide temple]

Changing the thermal paste is one of the cheapest things you can try before splurging on a new cooler

[hasty nova]

Only gaming is when it starts to suffer

[wide temple]

It's also handy to have some thermal paste on hand

[hasty nova]

Any shops that sell thermal paste ?

[wide temple]

Uhhh not unless you have any retailers near you that sell computer parts 👀

[hasty nova]

Nah

Oh well looks like amazon

[agile ermine]

for me, cooler is still a part of the problem... temps could easily be lowered, even with a low end after market cooler

[hasty nova]

I'm gonna try and re apply the thermal paste maybe its that i didnt put enough

[agile ermine]

and you can easily find thermal paste on the internet, there a re lots of specialized websites

[hasty nova]

Yea but I want it today

[agile ermine]

maybe... how much did you put?

[hasty nova]

A small rice grain sized drop in the middle

[agile ermine]

that should have been fine...

maybe try to apply a thin layer on all the cpu...

[hasty nova]

Yea I'm gonna try again

See if re application works

How do I clean off thermal paste

[agile ermine]

seems that you need isopropyl alcohol

[hasty nova]

Was that amount good enough or more needed ?

Is this good amount ?

[agile ermine]

wow

I think I understand now why your cpu was overheating

the paste is supposed to spread on all the surface of the cpu

which wasn't the case

[hasty nova]

Ok

I put a little more on this fine

Time

Let's see how it goes

[agile ermine]

wait

did you cleaned the cooler too?

[hasty nova]

Yes

[agile ermine]

maybe try to make a cross on the cpu with the paste

[hasty nova]

Alright power ON

Omg help

I turned the computer on

And the fan went to hyper speed

Ok its calmed down now

[compact cove]

fans always start up at 100% then take a chill pill once the bios (or OS) loads

[hasty nova]

Oh thank god

That's scared the f outta me

I thought I was bout to experience a cpu fan blow up in my own case

Ok

Let's see

[compact cove]

ive never see a pc fan blow up

would be interesting to watch 🤔

puts a Note 7 in the case

[agile ermine]

it can blow up, but you need to seriously overvolt it... which can't happen if it's plugged on the motherboard

[hasty nova]

Bout to load up squad

[compact cove]

remember when all case fans where molex? good gawd

[agile ermine]

and it doesn't blow up in a big explosion, it will only stop spinning and make a bit of smoke

[hasty nova]

crosses fingers

[compact cove]

or the bearings brake and make such an annoyin noise that you change them directly lmao

[hasty nova]

Its wirring up again

😖

[compact cove]

@hasty nova https://i.imgur.com/XvmE6xR.gif

[agile ermine]

😂

[compact cove]

microshaft

[hasty nova]

What was the maximum safe temp ?

[agile ermine]

temps are fine if they stay under 70°C

[compact cove]

for intel 70-80 is max

[hasty nova]

85 !

Again

Wtf

90 !

[compact cove]

what program are you using to see temps?

[hasty nova]

Reeeee

No

No

No

[agile ermine]

so its probably the cooler

[compact cove]

get HWinfo to see actual temps...

[hasty nova]

I wish you could hear this thing roar

[compact cove]

or aida64

[hasty nova]

Ok

[agile ermine]

ew... yeah, but don't accidentally run the aida64 stress test, things could go wrong 😅

[compact cove]

here is where you need to go in Aida64

[hasty nova]

Theres no way I'm gaming today until the new cooler comes in

[wide temple]

The thermal paste you have is absolute crap

The fact that it didn't even spread properly says it all

[compact cove]

motherboard 111? what?!

you might have a broken temp sensor on your mobo....

[agile ermine]

ew

hope so

[compact cove]

fyi, those are not fixable

can you use the snipping tool or the print screen button tho?

[hasty nova]

Hold up let me get better pic

[compact cove]

cant see much since the flash is in the middle of the pic....

[wide temple]

It's probably just AIDA64 reading a sensor value incorrectly, it happens

I've seen some sensors read as -100c before

[hasty nova]

Those temps look good or no ?

[compact cove]

vrm temp on an asrock b450 read 160 C as stable before the bios update

@hasty nova might want to try reinstalling the mobo driver or updating the mobo bios

cpu temps are fine

[hasty nova]

Why ?

[compact cove]

broken mobo temp might also be a driver/bios issue

[hasty nova]

Chassis intrusion detected ?

Hold up

[compact cove]

your case is open

[hasty nova]

No

[compact cove]

disable that feature in the bios next time you go there

its pointless

[hasty nova]

I've only been in the bios once

Idk what I'm doing in there

[compact cove]

oof

[hasty nova]

I just discard changes and leave

To scary man

[compact cove]

then its best to stay away from the bios then

[wide temple]

Chassis Intrusion is something you can safely ignore

[hasty nova]

I want to run squad and capture the temps when it's in the menu

[wide temple]

Use MSI Afterburner with RTSS on

[hasty nova]

That's what I was using befor

What's the RTSS ?

[wide temple]

RivaTuner Statistics Server

[compact cove]

RivaTuner Statistics

[wide temple]

It'a a separate download that works with Afterburner

[hasty nova]

Oh

[compact cove]

was gonna recommend Kombustor too, then i remembered he took a screenie with his phone......

[hasty nova]

Ay listen

I run anything on this pc, the fan roars again

[compact cove]

intel stock fans are only useful on pentiums and i3

[hasty nova]

I've never ever heard a fan roar like that , scared the f outta of me

Yea I'm getting aftermarket fan and a some better paste

That is sure to bring the temp down

[agile ermine]

you don't even need an expensive cooler

[compact cove]

hyper 212 evo is the best performance/money fan you can get

[wide temple]

If you want a decent cheap air cooler, have a look at the Cryorig series

[compact cove]

its like 20 bucks

[hasty nova]

Yea

That's the one I was looking at

[wide temple]

The 212 EVO is an absolute nightmare to install though, bear that in mind

[agile ermine]

be quiet pure rock slim are cheap too, similar to the hyper 212

[compact cove]

or a deepcool gammaxx gte if you want some bling

[hasty nova]

But I dont want to have to take the motherboard out the case

[compact cove]

does your case have a motherboard cutout ?

[hasty nova]

Errrr

🤔

[compact cove]

sec, lemme show you what i mean

[wide temple]

*Case have a cutout

[agile ermine]

can you remove both side panels on your case?

[hasty nova]

I dont think so

[wide temple]

Not motherboard

Most coolers use an x-clamp to support the cooler

[compact cove]

read again Moh, i said it right

[wide temple]

Oh 😅

[hasty nova]

I can only take off the glass front

[wide temple]

What case is it?

[compact cove]

that big mole in the middle, thats a motherboard cutout

so you can mount a cooler backplate without taking the mobo out

[hasty nova]

No

[compact cove]

then you will most likely have to take the mobo out

[compact cove]

most aftermarket coolers use proprietary mounting systems

[hasty nova]

That's the other side

[wide temple]

what am I looking at

[compact cove]

im confused as well

is that the back panel?

[agile ermine]

can't see anything

[compact cove]

yep, that panel can be taken off

[hasty nova]

O.o

How ?

Is thier likens secret button

[compact cove]

should see somethin like this underneath

[hasty nova]

Omg guys !!!

[compact cove]

screws at the back of the case

[hasty nova]

Screams are at the back

Screws*

[compact cove]

screams are at the back indeed xD

[agile ermine]

😂

[hasty nova]

I'm gonna take it off

I wanan see the back

🙂

[compact cove]

thats what she said

[wide temple]

Such a pingu thing to do

[hasty nova]

I took the screws out

But it's not coming off

[agile ermine]

slide it

[compact cove]

slide the panel towards the back

[hasty nova]

Where from

Theres no handle

[compact cove]

put your hand in the middle of it

and push it backwards

[hasty nova]

Theres a handle !!!

At the back omg !

[compact cove]

^ imagine all of this without context, like..... OOF

[agile ermine]

[hasty nova]

YAS

Haha

Open sesame

Omg guys !!

[compact cove]

there you go, mobo cutout

[hasty nova]

I made a mistake

A huge f**** mistake

[agile ermine]

?

[hasty nova]

Look

[compact cove]

and?

[hasty nova]

There should be 4 pins coming out the back

Theres only 3

For the cpu cooler

[compact cove]

if you didnt clamp the cooler down properly

[agile ermine]

yeah, not great... 2 or 4 works, but not 3

[compact cove]

imma die laughing

[hasty nova]

Wtf

Wheres the bloody 4th one

[compact cove]

incomplete cooler

[agile ermine]

look at the back

[compact cove]

^ oof

[hasty nova]

I was so concerned with pushing it down to hard

It didnt even go in

Tf is this intel !!!

[compact cove]

context pls

[agile ermine]

rofl

[hasty nova]

Here we go again

Let me make sure this 4th pin is in

[compact cove]

@wide temple Pingu, 2019

[marble forge]

😂 😂

[hasty nova]

Its stuck in the hole

It's not come all the way out

Help

[marble forge]

You need a paramedic?

[compact cove]

Pingu, did you turn it off first?

[agile ermine]

wrong hole? 😏

[compact cove]

^ oof

unlock the 'screw' thats opposite to that one and then try putting that one in

[wide temple]

[hasty nova]

Its not going in ?

[compact cove]

is the plastic busted?

[hasty nova]

No

Wait

Should I turn the screw

Towards the arrow

[compact cove]

unlock it, push it in, turn it while its in

[hasty nova]

It made the clicking sound

But it hasn't come through the hole

[compact cove]

if its not in the hole you didnt push it hard enough before locking it in

did you unlock the opposite one like i told you?

[hasty nova]

Opposite

Ohhhh

Damn

[compact cove]

X pattern

opposite

[hasty nova]

Ok

Unlocked

[compact cove]

1 2
3 4

[hasty nova]

Now what?

[compact cove]

you screw them in 1 > 4 > 2 > 3

[hasty nova]

But the thermal paste ?

[compact cove]

is it spread across the whole cpu?

[hasty nova]

Yes

[compact cove]

leave it be then

[hasty nova]

I'm scared

Im gonna snap the mobo

[compact cove]

🤦

[hasty nova]

So anti clockwise for pullout ?

And clockwise for put in ?

[compact cove]

i dont remember how the scews look like exacly

but its easy to tell when its unlocked cuz you can pull on it

[compact cove]

anticlockwise to unlock, i think

[hasty nova]

It's still not coming through

[compact cove]

intel stock cooler is shit

this is the one thats not going in, right?

[compact cove]

oof

[hasty nova]

Ok got it !

[unkempt swan]

F for Pingu

[hasty nova]

Its through the hole !

[compact cove]

such context, much wow

[unkempt swan]

Now pull in and out several times

[compact cove]

😹

[unkempt swan]

Don't screw up, man

Classic

[wide temple]

Let's... keep it SFW

[unkempt swan]

[compact cove]

SFP

safe for Pingu

[unkempt swan]

[compact cove]

this thread is now classified as NSFP

[wide temple]

[unkempt swan]

Maybe you are not screwing good ebough and there is not enough contact

[hasty nova]

I'm leaving it until I get the new cooler

The screw didnt in all way

[compact cove]

get your screwdriver ready for a new cooler

[hasty nova]

Yea I sorry

I went toilet

And the door wouldn't open

Stuck in toilet for like 20 mins

Anyway, yes I put the covers back on and I purchased the new cooler with better paste

[agile ermine]

... how?

[compact cove]

do not question Pingu

[wide temple]

He's the person who used the same chopping board to cut vegetables with raw meat

[agile ermine]

guess that let you enough time to get your screwdriver ready...

[mighty vine]

What do you guys reccomend to remove Paste from a cpu?

[compact cove]

if its a 'what you have around' scenario, either a regular paper tissue (dry) or a cotton cloth + medicinal alcohol

[gritty wagon]

Vodka works, too.
Jk, Idon'treallyknowpleasedon'ttryit

[unkempt swan]

isopropyl alcohol

[compact cove]

ive seen watercooling loops with vodka, it wouldnt surprise me

[mighty vine]

Ok but what if it's like hard?

[compact cove]

dont take it out of the socket while youre cleaning it

its pretty safe to apply pressure on the IHS to just 'rub' the paste off

[mighty vine]

Thanks

[hasty nova]

Yea the door.jammed

I went toilet, locked the door with those twist knob things

Went to unlock it but it wouldn't twist

And I left my phone in the other room

So I jumped out the window walked on top of the conservatory, and climbed back through my bedroom window

[mighty vine]

Mib

[pseudo comet]

i have buy for 55€

[wide temple]

https://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/new-dell-g3-15-with-i7-9750h-gtx1650-300-nits-72-ntsc-for-67914-3258709
Someone here was looking for a laptop?

[hasty nova]

New cpu cooler is almost here 😍

I'm delivery number 4 and the courier is doing delivery number 3

[wide temple]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3aEv3EzMyQ

[compact cove]

😹

[wide temple]

tl;dw - Intel is slightly better in some titles (1080p) but everything else is in AMD's favour

also value proposition is in AMD's favour with a cheaper price + lower TDP

I think I know what my next CPU is going to be

[compact cove]

welcome to the 3900X club Moh 😛

[wide temple]

3900X? 😅

That's too expensive for me

[compact cove]

as expensive as a 9900k

[wide temple]

I'm looking at the 3700X

[compact cove]

we were undecided between 3800X and 3900X but it looks like we are going for 3900X

most likely on an asrock x470 taichi ultimate

[wide temple]

I'd consider it but in terms of value it seems a lot more expensive for p/p

i.e. the performance delta isn't that significant when you consider the extra cost

[compact cove]

for gaming even a 3600X will be more than enough

[wide temple]

true, but I want 8c/16t

would be a huge upgrade for me from my measly 4c/4t

[compact cove]

our main rig is a 6700k atm, so 4c/8t

my 'console' is a 2600, 6c/12t

the leap from the 6700k to the 3900X will be insane 😹

[wide temple]

4690K here 😅

[compact cove]

oof, time to upgrade

[wide temple]

She still runs fine, but definitely showing her age when it comes to multi-tasking

Also really pushing it when I'm running everything at 3440x1440 120hz

[compact cove]

so 4-5 chrome tabs? 😛

[wide temple]

You joke but if I have a twitch stream in the background, if often stops responding after a while unless I tab into it

[compact cove]

let me show you how many tabs are currently active on this 6700k

about that many

[wide temple]

I'm no better, except mine are split across 4 windows lol

61 tabs open atm

[compact cove]

we run triple 1080p monitors

thats all on monitor 3 atm

[wide temple]

https://youtu.be/7AbNeht4tAE?t=30

Omg this cat

[compact cove]

havent reached that one yet, Snowflake makes an appearance?

[wide temple]

[agile ermine]

new ryzen performs really good... and it could be even better with some software optimisation

[compact cove]

my 2600 already improved a lot in the last 6 months just from bios updates, im expecting ryzen 3000 to follow the same path

[agile ermine]

but again, it doesn't seems like they can be pushed very high with an overclock

[compact cove]

if a stock 3600 can beat an oc 9700k in multithreaded workloads, well then..... guess whos winning now

[agile ermine]

plus, the 9700k costs nearly double the price of the ryzen...

[compact cove]

@wide temple no idea whos cat is that black cat, but its not Snowflake 😰

[mighty vine]

Guys I have a problem

[wide temple]

Why not say what the problem is when asking

[mighty vine]

When I put my WiFi card into my PCI slot my pc doesn't boot

[forest steppe]

Is it the right way around

??

[mighty vine]

?

Wdym?

[forest steppe]

Is it in correctly

[mighty vine]

Yes

[forest steppe]

Ok that is odd

[mighty vine]

Atm I use my WiFi usb

[wide temple]

Does your motherboard support the PCI version it needs?

[mighty vine]

Yyes

[hasty nova]

I use USB wifi

[mighty vine]

It fits perfectly

[hasty nova]

Hmm

Short circuit ?

Maybe one of the pins is bent ?

[mighty vine]

@hasty nova It is good but my pc probably has a too weak PSU to sustain it

[hasty nova]

Increase it

If you can

Is thier not a way for you to overclock your PSU 🤔 🤔

[mighty vine]

It isn't bent or anything but I went into my BIOS and enabled Plug and Play or whatever it's called and my PC still worked but the card didin't

Or it's fried or broken

Overclocking a PSU smh

It would be good i think

but not at the same time

[hasty nova]

I overclocked my audio so everytime I pressed the ON button, an ear rape version of the windows login played

[mighty vine]

The problem with my USB Wifi is that if I download a large file via Steam lets say. It will download for 1.2 GB good, depends but then It will litterly turn off

@hasty nova The XP windows ?

xD

Is the Red Magic 3 Good

[agile ermine]

the wifi card is probably defective then... when you plug in it, the pc should start properly and the card should automatically be detected...

[wide temple]

Unless the PCI slot is dead.

[agile ermine]

maybe...

did you tried to use another pci-e slot frenzy?

[mighty vine]

No

[agile ermine]

then start by doing that, it could tell you if thats the motherboard or the card that has issues

[austere vortex]

If anyone has a RTX 2080 non max-Q how the frame rate?

Laptop version

[mighty vine]

What phone would you guys recommend

160-500 euros

I was thinking about the Red Magic 3 or the Samsung A60

[halcyon rune]

@mighty vine nonkia lumia 510

[mighty vine]

[halcyon rune]

its good phone tho when it came

[mighty vine]

ik

[hasty nova]

@mighty vine samsung galaxy s8 +

[halcyon rune]

@hasty nova no no not samsung s series because that curved glass brokes easly and apps burn sometimes easly for me happend too many times but i have s8

[spiral yew]

i have had many samsung S series phones

i believe i started with the S4 and now i have the S10

[mighty vine]

@halcyon rune what do you mean the apps burn?

[rapid torrent]

oled

[halcyon rune]

@mighty vine oh i didnt writhe all someaps burn some aps on screen

like snapchat have burned in my screen littlebit i have top of screen little bit yellow

[mighty vine]

A burn in in other words

[pseudo comet]

Hauptsache man lässt sein PC über die nacht laifej damit gta 5 gedownloaded werden kann lul

[exotic shadow]

@pseudo comet: This is primarily an English Discord, but you can head over to #579776826600325130 and react with the emoji flag of the country with the specified language (e.g. :flag_pl: for Polish). You can then access that language's channel.

[wide temple]

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/MVXvgw

😩

Torn between going for a cheaper motherboard vs. having 2 M.2 slots. Also torn between going for the 3600 vs 3700x

[pseudo comet]

uhm wait what

[sinful monolith]

how much cheaper is 3600?

[wide temple]

Significantly

[pastel lodge]

Moh

[agile ermine]

u don't really need 2 M:2 slots, right?

[pastel lodge]

2 m.2 ain't worth

Just buy a full sized ssd

[wide temple]

£190 vs £320

[pastel lodge]

With one m.2

[sinful monolith]

that warning at the bottom though

[agile ermine]

3700X is something like 50 or 60% more expensive than 3600

[wide temple]

Yeah I know, I'll buy it with the BIOS updated (a local retailer offers that service)

[agile ermine]

overclocks better tho

[wide temple]

That's the thing, last time I built a PC, I opted to get the 4690K vs i7 4790K

[pastel lodge]

[wide temple]

Regretted it a few years later when I wanted the extra cores

[pastel lodge]

Why didn't u upgrade it lataer

[wide temple]

It wasn't cost effective to do so

[sinful monolith]

seems to be about 25% perf increase between 3600 and 3700X

[wide temple]

In terms of gaming, the differences are a lot less

For productivity the gains are significant

[agile ermine]

more futureproof too

[sinful monolith]

possibly

[wide temple]

If I do go with building a new PC, I'll be keeping it for 5 years at an absolute minimum

[sinful monolith]

the amount of background processing isn't going to go up by much (I think), but games might become better at utilizing multiple cores with both Intel and AMD pushing for higher core counts for consumer CPUs

[unkempt swan]

Why do you even need 2 m.2 slots? If you planning to get nvme m.2 ssds - they are useless, unless you are transferring A LOT of data daily (photographer etc)

[wide temple]

Mini ITX build

[sinful monolith]

they can improve load times in some games

[wide temple]

If I was going for an ATX build, I wouldn't need to worry about extra M2 slots

[unkempt swan]

Nvme ssds? Yes, 1-2 seconds for the price you add up

[wide temple]

But I'm tired of having an obscenely large and heavy PC taking up so much space (currently have a Fractal R4)

[unkempt swan]

Non-nvme ssd is enough for average user

[sinful monolith]

run 2 nvme SSDs in RAID0 for boot drive

[wide temple]

I can get a 2TB WD Blue for the same price (both M.2 and SATA)

Doesn't make a difference

[sinful monolith]

barely anything about that build screams "average user"

[wide temple]

[unkempt swan]

I am just kidding

[wide temple]

I could keep my existing PC for another year, but honestly, I'm getting tired of it and I'm growing old

[unkempt swan]

[wide temple]

I'd rather have stuff that works properly all the time rather than having to deal with X and Y

[sinful monolith]

I'm kinda feeling the same about my i7-7700K-based build

[wide temple]

wot, yours isn't even that old?

[sinful monolith]

2017

[wide temple]

2014

[sinful monolith]

the one I had before that was 2010

tbh I just want RTX

[wide temple]

Also that build doesn't include an AIO, which I'll need for an ITX...

[unkempt swan]

2080 here :d

[sinful monolith]

got 2080 in my laptop, 1080 Ti in the build I was talking about

I'd lean towards the 3700X though, if you have the money to spare

gives more options later and likely more future-proof

[wide temple]

I plan to keep the 1070, cos I ain't paying £1000 for a top of the line GPU (2080Ti) when the 1080 Ti was almost half the price. You don't even get double the performance of a 1080 Ti so what's the point?

[sinful monolith]

the 10-series is still plenty good enough for most use-cases

[unkempt swan]

Getting 1080ti with transferrable warranty is a fairly good idea

[sinful monolith]

the reasons to upgrade would be better NVENC quality and DXR

the visual quality lands somewhere between x264 fast and medium, which makes it excellent for streaming

[wide temple]

Neither of which I care about tbh lol

[unkempt swan]

There is also an other philosophy: buying beefy CPU and then upper midrage GPU every N years

[sinful monolith]

GPU is a lot easier to upgrade

CPU requires a new mobo too often

[unkempt swan]

True, that's why you go for the best avaliable CPU you can offer

[wide temple]

You're not making this easy for me

[sinful monolith]

how about this?

fanless air cooled

[agile ermine]

desk radiator

[unkempt swan]

BT 4.2?

[wide temple]

The power requirement of the i9 is ridiculous

So I'm stuck between two choices, either go all out and go 3700X, or save a ton of money and go 3600. I can also save some money on a motherboard as I can get a cheaper one with cheaper VRMs and power phases

[unkempt swan]

Depends on the games you play and resolution

[wide temple]

3440x1440, so I'm heavily CPU bottlenecked atm

[spiral yew]

get this instead moh https://www.amazon.com/Samsung-LC49HG90DMNXZA-Curved-49-Inch-Monitor/dp/B072C7TNC5/ref=asc_df_B072C7TNC5/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=309776868400&hvpos=1o1&hvnetw=g&hvrand=7074029670904212041&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9024531&hvtargid=pla-456716051689&psc=1

[wide temple]

Resolution is trash on that

1080 vertical? I'll pass. lol

[spiral yew]

here's the newer one https://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Double-49-Inch-Monitor-LC49RG90SSNXZA/dp/B07L9HCJ2V/ref=dp_ob_title_ce

[wide temple]

Now that's more like it 🤓

[spiral yew]

only $1,500+

[wide temple]

Double what I paid for my current monitor hahah

[spiral yew]

it would epic to play ets2 or ats on that monitor

[wide temple]

damn right, both monitors in view AND you get to see the outside as well

[spiral yew]

and without frame borders

and it only weights 33 lbs

[unkempt swan]

4K? Get 3600 then

[compact cove]

Moh: i want to build an ITX pc
meanwhile me:

[mighty vine]

Lol

[sand valley]

huh

[mighty vine]

?

[wide temple]

ITX in an ATX build?

[sleek star]

not an atx case

the gpu is mounted parallel to the motherboard, you can see the riser above the ram

[mighty vine]

[agile ermine]

you forgot something

[mighty vine]

Perfection

Plug it in?

[agile ermine]

[mighty vine]

What is that

xD

Is it a sff PSU?

[agile ermine]

thats a 2200W psu

for that stupidly power hungry system

[compact cove]

@wide temple Silverstone RVZ03 ARGB

[placid dragon]

What PC requires 2200 watts

What?!

[compact cove]

dual system PCs

workstations with 3-4 Quaddros, that kind of systems

[agile ermine]

maybe more

remember linus tech tips's monster workstation with something like 8 gpus?

[placid dragon]

I mean for like a gaming PC at home

[agile ermine]

a system with 3 gtx 580 like that can easily hit 1000W under heavy load

[placid dragon]

Like a i9 and 2 RTX GPU's don't even use close to that

[agile ermine]

uh

a core i9 and two rtx titan aren't that far from the 1000W mark

[placid dragon]

But far from 2200 watts

[agile ermine]

yeah

[placid dragon]

PSU's that high are almost made to order considering how few would be purchased xD

[pseudo comet]

i can a system build whit 4 Geforce GTX 480 and MSI am3 4way motherboard

[mighty vine]

@agile ermine it doesn't look like a regular PSU. I talk about the shape

[compact cove]

its an EATX power supply

[mighty vine]

Oh that explains it

[mighty vine]

Nice build

Mine

10 GB of RAM

[turbid python]

hmm

[mighty vine]

?

[mighty vine]

What is a good CPU for the AM3+ socket?

[agile ermine]

uh... none?

I mean... AM3+ processors were already outdated when they came out...

[mighty vine]

I now have a AMD Athlon II X3 450

There's gotta be something better out there

And I don't really have the money to buy a new motherboard and a I5 or something

[agile ermine]

the most powerful is the FX-9590

but I think its pretty rare and you need an insane motherboard and cooler to run it

otherwise, you can find some new FX-8370

but they're not even as powerful as a ryzen 3 1200, which isn't a great cpu...

[mighty vine]

Ok thanks

[pseudo comet]

oof my Graficscards

[mighty vine]

Well you got a nice collection

And some duplicates

[orchid flume]

Anyone here owns Lenovo legion laptop?

[pastel lodge]

corsair spec 04 case

anyone now how to open the front door of the case

i need to replace my fan

[spiral yew]

capri look for thumb screws on the sides of the case

[pastel lodge]

i know those are there

on the back

but i still need to see how to open it

because im pretty sure its got a lock too

so ucant just open it and damage the rest of the case without removing the plate

[spiral yew]

the panel should just slide

[pastel lodge]

ik

but the front is locked

since otherwise it would wiggle

[spiral yew]

the front fan or rear fan

does it look like this https://www.corsair.com/medias/sys_master/images/images/h44/h94/9111466246174/-CC-9011109-WW-Gallery-Spec-04-Gray-04.png

[pastel lodge]

its front

i only have a front fan

but yeah

that pic is the rear

[spiral yew]

how does your case only have a front fan and no rear fan

[pastel lodge]

because it only came with that and is handling completely fine

its only ever gone over 60/65 under load like 3 times

[spiral yew]

oh you're trying to replace the front fan?

[pastel lodge]

yes

it seems unbalanced

once fan rpms goes up

it vibrates every so often

when it goes up with rpm a bit to cool

and its loud

[spiral yew]

the front panel should just pop off

[pastel lodge]

i seen pics and its a door

ill see when i found a good fan and ordered it

xd

gotta find a good one thats pretty silent

[spiral yew]

i have a good fan in mine but it's on the expensive side

[pastel lodge]

how much?

[spiral yew]

i think it was like $40 USD

[pastel lodge]

0.o

what kind of fan is that

[spiral yew]

120mm

[pastel lodge]

what brand

[spiral yew]

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00CP6QLY6/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o06_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

it costs less than i thought

[pastel lodge]

thats 140

xD

[spiral yew]

oh well my case accepts 120 and 140

you can find a 120 version

[pastel lodge]

same 120-140 in front

120 everyhwhere else

[spiral yew]

mine can have 140's all over except for the bottom and back

https://www.amazon.com/stores/page/A8A98221-257E-40A9-820F-D3CC0199F885?ingress=2&visitId=b4241766-a874-4222-947a-8a818ec818a9&ref_=bl_dp_s_web_2530014011

i have my case fans programmed to turn off when there is no demand

[pastel lodge]

@spiral yew are be quiet fans any good?

[spiral yew]

never used em

[pastel lodge]

mk

im thinking of getting these https://www.amazon.co.uk/Cooler-Master-MasterAccessory-Compatibility-MFY-B2DC-133PC-R1/dp/B0721MYW66/ref=sr_1_14?crid=3IEGWRCT0RQX&keywords=cooler+master+fan&qid=1562958204&s=gateway&sprefix=cooler+master+fan%2Caps%2C131&sr=8-14

but idk if they come with scres etc

[sand valley]

I reccomend loud 12,000rpm fan for maximum flex

You can bring your friends over tell them to listen to your pc and tell them it is a jet and it will take off

[sand valley]

@pastel lodge Be Quiet fans are well... quiet

My old PC had a Be Quiet case, case fans and CPU cooler - You couldnt really hear it at all, even under load

[pastel lodge]

I got a corsair fan i bought

It makes no noise even under load

[manic depot]

Hey,

My Thrustmaster TX has a very annoying problem when steering precisely. There are small steps and i am not really able to keep the angle of the wheel between those steps.

See GIF: https://gfycat.com/jauntysmoggydromedary

The problem only appears when the wheel is plugged in so i guess it is caused by the FFB engine. I have lubrucated it a bit but theres still no difference.

As of my situation right now i wanted to know if any of you out there also have a TX/T300 or anything similar and also have this problem. I found a replacement unit for the FFB engine but that one costs 60$ and i would like to know your experience and wether the new engine could fix my problem.

The wheel has no warranty anymore.

Thanks for your help!

[pastel lodge]

maybe

like

dont take it apart so u dont loose warranty

[scenic ferry]

Is there any burning smell or anything wrong with the motors?

[manic depot]

Nah the problem is occuring since 5 months at least but i didn't have time to take it apart there

all fine for the rest, i would just be interested in the views of other tx/t300 owners

@scenic ferry

[scenic ferry]

I only really know how the logitech wheels work tbh sorry. Even then, it's limited knowledge

[halcyon rune]

Ok i have faster internet speed than you guys

[spiral yew]

oh my

[halcyon rune]

I literally cant do anything it takes 2 hours to open any websites and cant play 144p videos on youtobe

[mighty vine]

How do you truck then?

[mighty vine]

I have a problem with my wheel

Sometimes it turns by itself and keeps honking

For no reason

I unplug it and wait 5 sec and replug it

but it keeps happening

[pastel lodge]

If it keeps honking press Horn key

If it steers without wheel moving brakkng etc

Press the keyboard button for that

Sometimes it bugs with wheel/controller then that happens sometimes

[mighty vine]

but i can't

it is assigned to the wheel

[scenic ferry]

@mighty vine I have the horn issue sometimes. It's a physical issue where the horn button gets stuck down by a little plastic piece. What wheel is it?

[mighty vine]

thrustmaster universal challenge 5-in-1

or the ferrari challenge

But the turning then?

Also please tag me

[scenic ferry]

Are your drivers upto date? @mighty vine

[mighty vine]

The thing is i can't really find the right drivers

It worked perfectly before

[halcyon rune]

Unplug your eheel and start game and plug it

[mighty vine]

How will that help

[compact cove]

this is stock...

[pastel lodge]

Xd

[wide temple]

I just ordered my RAM today

2x 16GB of Ballistix 3200MHz RAM with Micron E-die, so it should overclock to 3600 touchwood

[mighty vine]

Yeeees

[scenic ferry]

Do you really need that much I still only have 4gb. Maxed out my motherboard

[mighty vine]

I have 10 GB

Of ddr 3

[split cape]

10 gigs? how does that add up? 😄

[mighty vine]

2x 2 gb and 2 x3 gb

[compact cove]

@wide temple

available, 26 GB

[scenic ferry]

Weird combination of RAM XD.

[compact cove]

3gb sticks of ram arent a thing

he prolly has 3x 2gb and 1x 4gb

[mighty vine]

Wanna see

If i get honr

Home*

[compact cove]

im 100% positive there is no single stick of 3gb ram

they go up in powers of 2, so 1>2>4>8>16 etc

[scenic ferry]

Yea, I didn't think they were real but who knows XD. I don't like mixing and matching ram tho

[compact cove]

you can mix and match as long as all the sticks are the same type (ddr3, ddr4 etc), are the same capacity and have the same latency and timings

[mighty vine]

And voltage

[compact cove]

voltage is usually standardized

[marble forge]

They don't need to be the same capacity afaik

[compact cove]

no but its much harder to find matching timings on different capacity sticks

[mighty vine]

I have 3x 2gb and 1x4 gb

Who wantwd to know my motherboard?

[agile ermine]

... how do you get 26gb of ram with two sticks???

[compact cove]

@agile ermine i assume that was for me; its 26gb free (out of 32)

[agile ermine]

aw yea

free ram

im stupid

[compact cove]

😹

[pastel lodge]

@wide temple i just ordered 2 8gb sticks

[mighty vine]

Noice

[pastel lodge]

70euros

cheaper then the 2 4gb sticks i have now lol

ill sell those for like 40 bucks if i can

[scarlet locust]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOgs2Dspbm4

🤔

[pastel lodge]

[spiral yew]

google tried something like that first

https://www.google.com/glass/start/

[wide temple]

@compact cove OwO did you overclock it at all?

[pastel lodge]

is it possible

that my current 2 x4 ram sticks will work with my other sticks too 2x8>

[spiral yew]

if they are the same latency and everything then yea

don't use DDR3 with DDR4 unless you want to destroy your mobo

also if the ram sticks don't snap in the first time make sure you them facing the correct direction

[unkempt swan]

DDR4 and DDR3 are not even compatible - slots keyed differently ]

[pastel lodge]

@spiral yew theyre Both ddr4

2666mhz

I havent gotten Them yet

So i could use 2 different versions basicly

[spiral yew]

well if one has a lower mhz then the other one the pc will use the lower one

sasha people who aren't very computer smart wouldn't know that

[mighty vine]

I knew

xD

[scenic ferry]

This has been in the attic for 10+ years https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/505842166963240969/600036476515778561/IMG_20190714_194158.jpg?width=266&height=473

[mighty vine]

Legend

[scenic ferry]

Got no cables to test it tho. They're going for pretty good money tho

[mighty vine]

sad

[pastel lodge]

@spiral yew ones i have now are 2666 MHz each and so are the new ones

But each one runs 1330 it said on Speccy is that normal?

Idk

[scenic ferry]

Oh rip, someone just bought it... That was way to fast. Guess I priced it wrong

[spiral yew]

yea that's normal capri unless your motherboard/cpu supports XMP profiles

[wide temple]

That's the true clock speed Capri

2666/2 = 1333

[spiral yew]

@pastel lodge you didn't buy 2666 Mhz ram did you?

[pastel lodge]

I did

[spiral yew]

🤦

[pastel lodge]

That's what i got in my system now too

A friend sayed if i get 3000 etc and what not it Will be limited with my cpu

[spiral yew]

2 8GB 1333 equals 2666 mhz

[pastel lodge]

💁

Its what i got in my pc now anyways

So they should work together so i have 24 GB of ram

[spiral yew]

2 8GB 2666Mhz equals 3222 Mhz

[pastel lodge]

So they wont work together i geuss?

[spiral yew]

not sure how well they will work

[pastel lodge]

Ill check when i receive them

[wide temple]

I think you got it wrong Jeep

[pastel lodge]

Ill Just put em in with the others

[wide temple]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/c97hq4/3200mhz_vs_3600mhz_on_ryzen_3000_series/esvgh9w/

This is how you calculate RAM speed latency

[pastel lodge]

Ive got ryzen 5 1400

[spiral yew]

ryzen 5 1400 is your CPU

[pastel lodge]

Yes

Ik

My friend said if i get higher MHz ram with this cpu

That the ram would be limited on its full true power

[wide temple]

That depends on what RAM speeds your motherboard is rated at

First gen Ryzen is picky about memory anyway

[pastel lodge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/307433337126125568/600398125277904916/14878afde3bdac764283452f5b2120ed.png

This is my current stuff in the pc @wide temple

[wide temple]

Your RAM is running at 2666Mhz then

[spiral yew]

but wouldn't it say 8x2?

[pastel lodge]

I dont have those yet

Right now is 2x4

[wide temple]

DDR = double data rate, to calculate the true speed, you have to multiple it by a factor of 2

[pastel lodge]

I should get my new ram saturday

Hopefully it also improves some games with loading stuff etc

[wide temple]

More RAM won't really help with that tbh

[spiral yew]

wait he has win 10 home not pro

if i remember right home has a ram limitation

[wide temple]

Nah

It does have a limit, but no consumer will ever hit that limit

128GB for the Windows 10 Home, 2TB for Pro

[pastel lodge]

Lol

Why would u ever want 2 tb of rwm

Ram

That Will Cost u like 20k?!?!

[wide temple]

Virtual Hosts, servers, all use large swathes of RAM

[pastel lodge]

True

[agile ermine]

you have to find a system that can run that much ram first...

and that uses windows

[pastel lodge]

Ye

I dont think alot of big company servers run Windows

[compact cove]

@wide temple all core oc seems to have a good effect on games but its worse than stock doing anythin else 😐

[compact cove]

also apparently our corsair dom plat sticks are micron E-die

[sinful monolith]

some data modelling workloads take a lot of memory too

most of those use-cases are on cloud workstations and servers though, not on computers anyone is directly sitting at

[wide temple]

Also yeah, you can get LPX e-die sticks too, but they have a specific version number and the version number you get is a lottery

[compact cove]

this 3200 cl16 kit does 3600 cl17

[wide temple]

I bought a 3700X last night for a £20 discount

Also bought a 2TB MX500 from Prime Day heh

[compact cove]

filthy brit

[wide temple]

I'm already getting ripped off ok

[compact cove]

i dont have a gpu in my console now, but at least i can play around with a 3900x

[placid dragon]

So should I upgrade my i7 4790 to a i7 9700K or a Ryzen 3900x?

Also is it recommended to reinstall Windows when you switch CPU manufacturers?

Only thing is the place where I get my PC parts is out of stock of 3900’s

[pastel lodge]

If u can and want to upgrade go for it

[unkempt swan]

@placid dragon what's your gpu?

[scenic ferry]

You'd also need a new motherboard

[unkempt swan]

And new RAM )

[scenic ferry]

Oh yea, ofc. Cos the motherboard would be DDR4 whereas the older I7 use DDR3 right?

[placid dragon]

I know I need the new ram and mobo

@unkempt swan Current GPU is a RTX 2080 Ti

[pastel lodge]

😮

[agile ermine]

Dat bottleneck

You don't need to reinstall windows if you replace your cpu, but you will probably have to uninstall some drivers later

But if you replace your motherboard, you might have to reactivate windows

[placid dragon]

Actually you'd be surprised that there is no bottle neck on the RTX 2080 Ti with the i7 4790 or a very minor one which isn't noticeable

Managed to get the GPU to 97% usage and CPU at 92% usage on Battlefield 5 with the RTX features enabled

[pastel lodge]

[marble crow]

some people say amd is better than intel, what do you all think

[mighty vine]

Amd for the CPU's and Nvidia for the GPU.s

[pastel lodge]

That monitor is back so far

Idk how u can play with mouse and keyboard that close to edge i already get pissed that my desk is 60 cm and i cant put my keyboard back more

[mighty vine]

Same

My wrists need to be on the desk

[spiral yew]

just get a sliding keyboard tray and problem solved

[mighty vine]

Like under the main desk?

That's like 120`

€

[spiral yew]

they're that expensive?

here is the US you can buy one for $50 USD

[mighty vine]

Idk I don't look at desks

But not a small one

Damn you got a whole setup right there

And I can bet a BEEFY pc

What's walmart xD

[spiral yew]

ahhhh lame the bot didn't like my link

[mighty vine]

Im from the netherlands

[spiral yew]

https://i5.walmartimages.com/asr/e841654f-e6ce-4674-8e74-2300b5c1831e_1.0f1585d45990c76531880f72358b8182.jpeg?odnWidth=undefined&odnHeight=undefined&odnBg=ffffff

[mighty vine]

Oh no

It the screw in ones

I would need one of those but it would be better if it was built in

[spiral yew]

those attach to your desk

something like this then? https://images.globalindustrial.com/images/500x500/239196.jpg

[mighty vine]

Depends on the width

I have a Logitech G 510 with a screen

And it's pretty long

[spiral yew]

do you have amazon?

[mighty vine]

Yes but no Prime

[pastel lodge]

If id have a sliding keyboard tray id hit myself on it non-stop because low desk + couldnt use keyboard when doing ats/ets

[sand valley]

@mighty vine beefy pc u said

Good enough?😂

[thorny river]

Yeah

[mighty vine]

I never said beefy pc?

[pastel lodge]

Your wheel isnt centered @sand valley fix this

[sand valley]

Iknow😵 @pastel lodge but otherwise its to close to the side panel

[pastel lodge]

Id move the side panel more

I have this too on my setup with my shifter

It blocks my chair

But unless its 99% good lines with center of monitor

I Just cant drive straight

[sand valley]

@pastel lodge its as far right as it can go

But i can fix it a other way😏 i can move my monitors cuz they on a desk mount 😂

[pastel lodge]

I geuss the drawers are permanently stuck on the desk?

[sand valley]

Yup

@mighty vine

[pastel lodge]

Rip id move monitors then 😂

[sand valley]

Well it works for me😂

If you pay close attention you see that my left monitor is lower than my middle one

It wont mount in a other way

[compact cove]

@pastel lodge if your OCD kicked in for a slightly misaligned wheel, i can show you my monitor setup

[pastel lodge]

Well

Its not oce

Ocd

It Just makes me feel so weird that it makes me unable to go straight

[compact cove]

i also drive with the controls misaligned from the screen im playing on so....

[pastel lodge]

I have to move my screen each time since i decided to put the support pole in my desk wich i tbh dont need its not like alot of weight on it but if u take it out ill cut my Legs probably alot

[compact cove]

note: old pic but config is the same, gaming screen is bottom right

2nd note: all screens are the same size, perception is a b@#$%

@wide temple 3900x is pretty damn hot, 72 C at full (non-AVX) load

[mighty vine]

@sand valley Oh okay and you got a BEEFY pc