programming

[plucky flicker]

in Java, we have Threads, Runnables and Futures mostly

[unkempt hamlet]

Thanks, I'd rather go Elixir/Erlang

[plucky flicker]

lol

I wanna try some writing with this now but no idea what to make lol

[unkempt hamlet]

That's exactly my progress with Elixir so far

[plucky flicker]

gonna install PhpStorm rn lol

I'm lucky, I get all the JetBrains IDEs for free with the GitHub Student Developer Pack

[unkempt hamlet]

ikr, big deal

[plucky flicker]

they're really nice though

what do you use to write PHP with?

[unkempt hamlet]

PhpStorm

[plucky flicker]

oh nice

righty then, what shall we start with? just an empty project?

does PHP have things like build tools?

[unkempt hamlet]

It is a scripting language, it doesn't need to be built

[plucky flicker]

oh it's a scripting language

what are conventions like for PHP?

[unkempt hamlet]

Here: https://www.php-fig.org/psr/

[plucky flicker]

oh, very similar to Kotlin, nice

do we have things like SOLID in PHP?

actually PHP is a scripting language and it's not object-oriented so the answer to that is likely no

[unkempt hamlet]

Yes, you can use it

[plucky flicker]

actually, DigitalOcean's examples for SOLID are in PHP, so maybe

is it basically the law like it mostly is in OOP?

or is PHP a bit more flexible than that

[unkempt hamlet]

You can do whatever you want, like in every other language

[plucky flicker]

also, is allman really PHP's recommended style?

[unkempt hamlet]

PSR-12

Never heard of allman

[plucky flicker]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indentation_style#Allman_style

that disgusting crap

[unkempt hamlet]

Ah, that one

Well, it is all in PHP-FIG recommendations

"recommendations" is the keyword

[plucky flicker]

does PHP have the concept of immutability btw?

e.g. Java has final, which means that a variable's value can't be changed

[unkempt hamlet]

No, there is only constant variable which is immutable

[plucky flicker]

ah okay

how does instantiation work in PHP?

actually I can google that

[unkempt hamlet]

Indeed

[ember canyon]

anyone else good with node.js

[raw notch]

maybe

[ember canyon]

just curious lol

[unkempt hamlet]

https://dtinth.github.io/comic-mono-font/

[trail vector]

So beautiful 🤮

[unkempt hamlet]

[shadow marsh]

I may will download this font and I may will give it a try 😂 seems to be pretty

[orchid bolt]

any discord.js developers here?

[orchid bolt]

🤢

[arctic mica]

I do a bit ye

[orchid bolt]

i figured it out, thanks

[royal quiver]

Discord.js seems so difficult compared to Discord.py

[orchid bolt]

maybe

but i'm used to d.js

i got used to it

[royal quiver]

I guess people are always going to find their most used language the easiest...

[earnest granite]

Never tried discord.py but I've done discord.js makes no sense

[sterile monolith]

its the other way around for djs users

[fervent garden]

What bot is used in #scs-updates and how does it work?

[unkempt hamlet]

Discord.RSS, https://github.com/synzen/MonitoRSS

[royal quiver]

Does anyone know which developer codes the tmp bots?

[unkempt hamlet]

Wdym "which"?

[royal quiver]

I meant who are the main people involved

I should have phrased the question better, presumably there's a lot of teamwork throughout tmp.

[cinder spear]

going to depend on the bot you're talking about too

and possibly the questions you have

[unkempt hamlet]

Botdottir is developed by ShawnCZek, Krashnz, with contributions from me and other retired developers.

Botranktir is developed by these lovely people: https://github.com/TruckersMP/botranktir/graphs/contributors

3v wink-wink

Other bots are 3rd party

[cinder spear]

🙂

[royal quiver]

OK!

I hadn't heard of Typescript before, but apparently it's just a variant of JS so that makes sense...

[cinder spear]

typescript is awesome for medium-to-large projects

type safety avoids so many easy to miss bugs

[royal quiver]

So it checks all possible inputs? Or is it analysis of the code itself?

[unkempt hamlet]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Type_safety

[cinder spear]

nothing to do with inputs or analysis of the code: just labels and ensuring the labels match

[royal quiver]

Oh, ok

[cinder spear]

so you can say, for example, that the first parameter to a function is an object with the property name that is a string, and then you can just safely assume that in the implementation without checking your callers

function greet(person) {
  if (!person || !person.name) {
    throw new Error("invalid person");
  }
  console.log(`Hello, ${person.name}`);
}

vs.

type Person = {
  name: string;
}

// no additional checking required as long as --strictNullChecks present
function greet(person: Person) {
  console.log(`Hello, ${person.name}`);
}

[royal quiver]

So the main purpose of this is to reduce bugs and speed up development?

[unkempt hamlet]

reduce possible bugs down the line, makes it easier for IDE to highlight and suggest, and makes your code somewhat self documenting

[cinder spear]

especially useful when writing code that might be consumed by other devs or even projects

the types and method names alone cover the usage most of the time without having to read through comments or documentation

referring back to the example above, using typescript you don't need to know or check what person is supposed to be (is it the name as a string, an object with separate first and last names, or an object with just a combined name field? what are the fields called, if they exist?). You just make sure you have a Person and you're good to go.

[sterile monolith]

anyone here got any good c# learning resources?

[cinder spear]

what level?

[sterile monolith]

beginner\

[cinder spear]

https://dotnet.microsoft.com/learn/dotnet/in-browser-tutorial

if you already know another language, https://learnxinyminutes.com/docs/csharp/ might be interesting

there's also links to other learning resources at the end of it

[sterile monolith]

would you recomend jetbrains rider as an IDE

(i have the student license for every single jetbrains IDE)

[cinder spear]

always used visual studio community/professional for .net and haven't felt a need for anything else, but I've heard good things about jetbrains software

[north flax]

Jetbrains Rider is nice, and worth trying. I find it nicer than visual studio

[sterile monolith]

using System;

namespace ConsoleApp1
{
    class Program
    {
        public static void Main(string[] args)
        {
            Console.Write("First Number: ");
            
            int NumberOne = Convert.ToInt32(Console.ReadLine());
            
            Console.WriteLine();
            
            Console.WriteLine("Second NUmber:");

            int NumberTwo = Convert.ToInt32(Console.ReadLine());

            int FinalResult = NumberOne + NumberTwo;

            Console.WriteLine($"{NumberOne} + {NumberTwo} = {FinalResult}");
        }
    }
}

yay i made a calculator

[unkempt hamlet]

oof

[earnest granite]

Lol

[plucky flicker]

fun main() {
    val scanner = Scanner(System.`in`)
    println("First Number: ")
    if (scanner.hasNext()) {
        val firstNumber = scanner.nextInt()
        println("Second Number:")
        if (scanner.hasNext()) {
            val secondNumber = scanner.nextInt()
            println("The sum of the two number is ${firstNumber + secondNumber}")
        }
    }
}
```ez Kotlin calculator

[arctic mica]

"First Bumber"

[unkempt hamlet]

[cinder spear]

you don't need a Main method in .net 5, can get rid of all that boilerplate and unnecessary indentation in program entrypoints

[unkempt hamlet]

Never had a chance to check out .NET 5 yet

[unkempt hamlet]

[sterile monolith]

@cinder spear rider screams at me if i try to remove the boilerplate

cri

[cinder spear]

probably set to an older version of .net

the latest Rider supports top level programs

it's specifically mentioned in the "What's New" section

[unkempt hamlet]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6rkVqgwVuI

[plucky flicker]

[plucky flicker]

ah, always gotta love the sound of sorting algorithms at work lol

[royal quiver]

Anyone good at Discord.py?

[sly moon]

Why isn't snow falling in the game?

[lilac aurora]

Not really related to development, is it?

[sterile monolith]

i updated rider and .net and rider still yells at me

[slim pendant]

[royal quiver]

I'm not on my computer atm, but I'll get back to you with a question!

[orchid bolt]

does someone now how do i execute js file AND passing a variable to that file? from .php file

[cinder spear]

either set an environment variable for it or pass it as an argument in exec or whatever you use to invoke it

https://nodejs.org/docs/latest/api/process.html#process_process_argv
https://nodejs.org/docs/latest/api/process.html#process_process_env

[unkempt hamlet]

Open js file with env from php file? Excuse me?

[cinder spear]

no, passing in variables

kind of curious what the purpose of executing a js file from php is in the first place

[unkempt hamlet]

I mean, he hasn't mentioned any Node.js, so I assume he wants to pass variables to JS file in frontend

[cinder spear]

oh, I guess that's another way to look at it

[unkempt hamlet]

Who even uses PHP and Node.js as a backend at the same project?

[cinder spear]

needs clarification

[unkempt hamlet]

@orchid bolt please clarify

[cinder spear]

sometimes people want to use some js only library

[orchid bolt]

i figured it out other way but i wanted to "inject" kode inside discord bot running on node.js

to add roles after verification

but figured it other way

[cinder spear]

you'd want to use proper IPC methods for that

[orchid bolt]

what

[cinder spear]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inter-process_communication

[orchid bolt]

ooooh sweet

[royal quiver]

@slim pendant I'm not sure why this is happening

it was working correctly and now some standard syntax is causing issues

[cinder spear]

node version?

[royal quiver]

how do I check that?

[cinder spear]

node -v

[slim pendant]

why would you want his node version for a python project?

[cinder spear]

becasue I assume too much

[slim pendant]

can you show me more of your code above

[unkempt hamlet]

Next time give a context

[slim pendant]

syntax is correct, but i guess it comes from something above it

[cinder spear]

it's valid js syntax and a valid js error

[unkempt hamlet]

Well, embed=embed kinda stinks as JS code

[slim pendant]

so is it for python and if somebody asks if somebody is good with discord.py i assume its python not js

[cinder spear]

fair point, but Discord doesn't have threads and the previous context from 2 days ago was lost on me

[slim pendant]

indeed

[cinder spear]

still, my bad to assume

[unkempt hamlet]

We have Replies already, so use it

[slim pendant]

[royal quiver]

I've just fixed it

turns out I forgot some () but the error was detected in the line below

Thank you everyone for your help

[shadow marsh]

Heyho...

I want to try me in C#, it's basically Java, just from MS.

So far so good, which IDE is the best one for it?

[cinder spear]

visual studio community (or professional/enterprise depending on your needs) and jetbrains rider are the go-to ones for it

[shadow marsh]

alright, will take a look onto it - and I just need a basic thing, don't want to do anything big

alright, will take a look onto it - and I just need a basic thing, don't want to do anything big

[cinder spear]

VS community is free so easy enough to get started with

[shadow marsh]

okay ^^ will take a look onto VS Community later the day (it's 30 mins past midnight here)

[royal quiver]

You can get a plugin for Discord Rich Presence too, which is pretty nice!

[shadow marsh]

Well, it's indeed a nice-to-have but gladly not-a-need-to-have 😛

[royal quiver]

It does encourage you to name your projects properly though 😄

[slim pendant]

Hello, im looking for one or more contributor(s) for the project truckersmp.ts (https://github.com/iraizo/truckersmp.ts), due to my personal time i cannot work on it, the offical truckersmp API has already been implemented, only trucky's API is left.

[unkempt hamlet]

I wonder what is the reason to merge TruckersMP and Trucky in one lib

[tardy smelt]

You'll need to update it soon anyway

[royal quiver]

New partners?

[tardy smelt]

You'll see soon™️

[shadow marsh]

Ouuu

I'll see

[raw notch]

[mossy cloud]

Useless PHPStorm plugins 😄

[slim pendant]

adding about 200 lines doesent make sense to make it into a second lib

[slim pendant]

is there going to be an ping or something where i can see when it updates?

[tardy smelt]

It will be on our social media and official website

[shadow marsh]

what will be changed? Because I will implement it soon into my bot so I can know, if I should wait or not

[tardy smelt]

You won't be able to add it to your bot right away. It will be at the end of January

[shadow marsh]

I meant the changes... not that I will add it in a few days and then I have to update it again

You know I hate doublework somehow 😅

[tardy smelt]

It's a new feature. The current thing won't change :p

[shadow marsh]

ahh, okay ^^

thanks for clarifying it look forward to the new things 😛

[tardy smelt]

All I can say is it will be a new feature on the website

[shadow marsh]

[tardy smelt]

Phase 1 is the new feature and Phase 2 will be the feature connected to other system of our site

[shadow marsh]

I guess it's a VTC thing :p

[tardy smelt]

Not at the base

[shadow marsh]

[tardy smelt]

Would probably be a good thing to add to a bot on phase 2

[shadow marsh]

[tardy smelt]

It's something for the community

[shadow marsh]

I will look forward to the new feature ^^

[foggy osprey]

Not useless, it's the best

[shadow marsh]

uhm, where can I find the API and their docs? because https://truckersmp.com/api doesn't work for me

(TruckersMP Api obv)

[arctic mica]

https://stats.truckersmp.com/api

[shadow marsh]

Ahhh ^^ thanks

[slim pendant]

interesting.

[wooden glade]

Hi all. Hope everyone is doing ok? Any web developers here? I'm coding a website, currently a location map showing where in the world my data centers are but I think I missed something and need help. I got the blue dots where I need them but there's a black dot next to them and I can't seem to get rid of the black dot. I've tried everything I can think of

[unkempt hamlet]

What framework do you use for the map?

[wooden glade]

My main website is using bootstrap 4 🙂

[unkempt hamlet]

Are those locations predefined or get requested via API?

[wooden glade]

I've had to manually enter them for the time being in HTML and some CSS

[unkempt hamlet]

Can you show the code by any chance?

[wooden glade]

I'll grab the CSS screenshot now buddy

[unkempt hamlet]

What's in map-dark.svg?

[wooden glade]

It's an empty map

[unkempt hamlet]

So, it is a li standard formatting in Bootstrap, use div or span

[raw notch]

use ul with class "list-unstyled"

and this will remove the dot aside

[unkempt hamlet]

Or that one, I just don't think it is a proper usage for lists

[wooden glade]

Ahh ok, thank you

[raw notch]

it's not really a good usage for maps aswell

use leaflet + custom markers

and will be a lot better

[unkempt hamlet]

I don't think it is meant to be interactive in the same way, so that's overkill

[wooden glade]

Ohh ok

[raw notch]

dont need to be interactive, can block any interaction like dragging or panning

[unkempt hamlet]

Stll, overkill. You can just get away with svg canvas.

[raw notch]

only, leaflet with OSM + custom marker, 10 lines of code

i guess if that map is responsible with absolute position

i think not..

[unkempt hamlet]

It definitely isn't.

[raw notch]

so leaflet is :D

[unkempt hamlet]

Nasty af

[wooden glade]

Sorry, didn't mean to cause an argument haha

[unkempt hamlet]

That's not an argument.

[wooden glade]

Honestly, I'm open to ideas, be nice 🙂 - I've never coded a mapped location thing before so this bit is new to me lol

[raw notch]

imho, with a real map system like OSM and leaflet, position markers is really easy and looks better

[wooden glade]

What's OSM?

[raw notch]

is responsive, markers could be added at runtime or with animations, can open tooltips and so on

[unkempt hamlet]

Yeah, just +1 JS file

[raw notch]

Open Street Map

in 2020 really we are worrying about +1 js file? :D

[unkempt hamlet]

I mean, this exact integration won't benefit from that, so yeah 🙂

Btw, cache partitioning will be among us pretty soon, so it might be worrying.

[raw notch]

add also a css file :D

[unkempt hamlet]

https://developers.google.com/web/updates/2020/10/http-cache-partitioning#as_a_web_developer_are_there_any_action_i_should_take_in_response_to_this_change

[wooden glade]

Current CSS lol

[raw notch]

with gigabits connections now we are worried about some kb more to download

I've personally stopped to use cdnjs or similar, using webpack is all embedded in my js pack

and then there is Cloudflare and is cache

[unkempt hamlet]

In a grand scheme of things, it is really beneficial to not bring unused or useless dependencies to frontend.

imo

[wooden glade]

I'm thinking of putting my website behind CloudFlare but not sure if the free plan includes DDoS protection which I need lol

[unkempt hamlet]

google pagerank intensifies

[raw notch]

it does. but not only

[raw notch]

who says using another js more you are bringing to frontend something you don't need? if it's there, it's why you are using it

[unkempt hamlet]

I mean, it is like using jQuery just for the simple selectors, when you can just use plain JavaScript.

[royal quiver]

Question for J-M: are there currently any plans to add custom roles to the TMP Events system similar to the current VTC system? Eg. The event organisers could be assigned an Event Organiser tag or something, so that people would know where to direct their questions to. Also, is there ever going to be a chat board , or is this already covered by the forum?

[shy swan]

There are no plans for custom roles at the moment.
Yes, there are plans for some kind of communication on the page itself but this is still being planned.

[slim pendant]

https://tailwindcss.com/ is really awesome

[foggy osprey]

yeah, tailwind is honestly one of the best css frameworks i've used

[slim pendant]

yeah, my friend introduced it to me after i used bootstrap in 2020, now its probaly my favorite css framework, i can use it for anything, use postcss to strip any contents i dont need automatically and go ahead

[foggy osprey]

it's something you really need to get used to, since there are no "ready to go" components compared to bootstrap e.g.

but when you get used to it, it's super nice

[slim pendant]

yeah, it takes a "little more skill" but also rewards you with an faster loading site and general better knowledge of css

[rugged copper]

If you want prebuilt Tailwind components then there is Tailwind UI, but it does cost a bit 😄

[slim pendant]

oh damn those look neat, but im pretty sure you can rebuild those in ~10 minutes if you want to

[rugged copper]

Some of them are free and open anyway like the buttons, but some are a bit more complex

Something like this requires a bit more work to build on your own because of the way it scrolls and also handling it on mobile (unfortunately you can't view the scrolling in the preview) https://tailwindui.com/components/application-ui/page-examples/detail-screens#component-ad515de6435ba177e823a5f823a44ff5

[slim pendant]

oh yeah

[foggy osprey]

ye, i bought tailwind ui ~0.5 months ago

totally worth it imo, can save you a lot of time creating components

[mossy cloud]

I want your salary 😂

[foggy osprey]

i mean, if you think about the price, it's 209eur for a lifetime license

not that expensive

[shadow marsh]

I am not used to see Ratcho as RTM - but what is Tailwind? Has it something to do with Webdevelopment?

[foggy osprey]

It's a CSS framework

[shadow marsh]

So Webdevelopment 😄 I am just too stupid for that lol

[foggy osprey]

webdev is easy!

[shadow marsh]

I can't even write a basic HTML Document lol

I just understand Java

nothing more

[foggy osprey]

hm everyone has their own skills i guess, i never understood java lmao

[shadow marsh]

Indeed - I never was able to do something with webdevelopment... Don't understand anything and I often tried it

once I knew how I list some entries from MariaDB with PHP

but nothing more

[foggy osprey]

ever tried something like codecademy? If you're interested in learning webdev, that's a pretty good starting point

[shadow marsh]

I did ^^ and they really have good tutorials, indeed

but I can't work with that... is overcomplicated for me

so I stay with Java and everything'S fine

I will try out soon C# as this is Java but just from Microsoft basically

[foggy osprey]

I'll just stay cozy with Laravel/PHP

been using it for so many years now, never felt the need to learn anything new

[shadow marsh]

Can say the same with Java ^^

Coding with it since 2017

oop... soon I am coding in it 4 years lol

[foggy osprey]

nice, i've been using laravel since about 2016-2017ish as well if i remember correctly

[shadow marsh]

[foggy osprey]

scrolled through the code of my first project not too long ago

it was bad

and it was even used on production for a irl event. my god.

[shadow marsh]

Same for me 😂 I thought which Idiot did that 😂 then figured it out, the author was me I never felt that sad xD

[foggy osprey]

yeah i know that feeling

[tardy smelt]

That look nice

[shadow marsh]

I can feel that xD

[high sorrel]

This may or may not actually be me 😂

[unkempt hamlet]

Happy New Major Release, fellow coders!

[shadow marsh]

it will be me in 1h 55m

[mossy cloud]

😉

Now got the ability to set 'External Events' :3

[royal quiver]

I like the new developer roles. It's nice to have a better insight into who's primary involved in what.

On a side note, is there a way to use the tmp api in python?

[unkempt hamlet]

Well, write your own wrapper or use a JSON lib to decode the endpoint responses.

[royal quiver]

Are there any resources you'd recommend for writing a wrapper in python?

[unkempt hamlet]

I am a PHP/JS guy, so

[royal quiver]

OK then, thanks for your help. I'll look into that tomorrow and ask for help here if I need it! 🙂

[high sorrel]

Looking good 👀 👌

[mossy cloud]

[mossy cloud]

Has anyone used https://github.com/shardick/etcars-node-client before? I'm able to capture the data via

etcars.on('data', function(data) {
    console.log(data);
});

But I'm looking to capture a single job for the tracker, and I'm unsure of what to do

I can see JOB STARTED, but is there a way to 'listen' for that JSON via JS?

[unkempt hamlet]

Well, you check the JSON for that data each time data is fired

[worldly tulip]

@raw notch

[raw notch]

oof

really really old

@mossy cloud i suggest to go with a C++ Telemetry plugin

[mossy cloud]

What's the benefits of that over NodeJS?

I got it working btw thanks

[raw notch]

it depends on what you want to achieve. ETCars is used from open source VTRPC, for example

but things like Trucky logit Trucksbook SpedV are based on telemetry plugins

i mean, a job logger should be a telemetry plugin. distribute nodejs is a pain

seems fair

[mossy cloud]

Using axios to actually post to API

Yeah wish me luck lol

[raw notch]

then you can compile in an exe with nexe

[mossy cloud]

I'll cross that bridge later lol

[rugged copper]

I would say the only thing with using this is that the data could also be easily faked

[mossy cloud]

It's taking data directly from ETCars though?

[raw notch]

Trucksbook uses memory mapped file and people cheat all the time :D

[mossy cloud]

Guess we'll just have to make all tracker jobs manual approval then anyway

[raw notch]

it's not so easy fake that data or do a "man in the middle" attack.. this need a certain type of knowledge

if you are doing a tracker for your vtc, this approach is good enough

[mossy cloud]

It's more a learning experience anyway, it's teaching me a lot ❤️

[raw notch]

yea, i can imagined. don't worry about security at this point

[high sorrel]

I've used that node client for etcars for a logger before, it did the job and it's not absolutely awful but it's definitely not my favourite

Won't be using it for the next one, that's for sure haha

[mossy cloud]

Finally got there ❤️

[mossy cloud]

lol at this point if it did the job thats what I wanna hear xD

[high sorrel]

yeah absolutely lol

[graceful belfry]

Just noticed yall updated your api to send the group hex colour in the api for the https://api.truckersmp.com/v2/player/{id} thank you so much ❤️❤️

#programming message referencing a conversation from the beginning of last year

[mossy cloud]

🎉

[raw notch]

satisfying uh?

[mossy cloud]

indeed 😄

Never used NodeJS before so this is awesome for me ^_^

[ember canyon]

You should try using Typescript! 😁

[hallow peak]

Is there any command to type in the console to restart TruckersMP?

[unkempt hamlet]

No

[graceful belfry]

Alt-F4 should do the trick

[foggy osprey]

@mossy cloud how's it going with ETCars?

[mossy cloud]

Really well thanks 😄

Hard bits are done, it's logging to both discord and database correctly 😄

Just now looking at API Authentication with header keys to make sure users are only submitting jobs for themselves lol

Using https://lumen.laravel.com/ for a mini-framework as I don't want this to bloat the main web app 🙂

[foggy osprey]

Ah, that's nice yeah

I was looking into ETCars as well, so keep me up to date 👀

Interested in hearing if it's worth using

[mossy cloud]

Will do mate

[pulsar jungle]

ETCars is great to use.

I've personally used ETCars since spring 2018.

@mossy cloud You made an excellent choice by using ETCars.

[mossy cloud]

It's going very well, almost ready to release our first version ^-^

[pulsar jungle]

Nice

[ember canyon]

Mariadb as database ?

[mossy cloud]

MySQL :)

[royal quiver]

For the new events system, I received a message that I was already attending an event at that time, however it didn't actually say which event was conflicting. Is this a bug or an upcoming feature or was it because I was on mobile?

[unkempt hamlet]

This is not an appropriate chat for those things, you'd better ask on forum or in Support.

[graceful belfry]

The real question is there or will there be a public api for the events system?

[raw notch]

afaik yes

[mossy cloud]

Does anyone know of any resources for getting a live map? I can save the live data to database without issue, but I'd like to get a live map of VTC drivers

[unkempt hamlet]

What do you mean by "getting a live map"?

[raw notch]

the real problem is not generate the live map but convert the map coordinates to in-game coordinates and viceversa

[mossy cloud]

https://map.vivatrucks.com/ets2.html
https://map.primevtc.com/ets2

These two VTCs seem to share the same map software, not sure what it is 🙂

[raw notch]

they use the VTLog open source map from edoxyz

search for it on github

[mossy cloud]

Ah cheers

[raw notch]

but it's not updated, missing latest dlc

[mossy cloud]

Oh

[raw notch]

to generate the live map, updated, look at ts-map on github

but it's "only" a tile generator

[mossy cloud]

Thanks for everyone's help over the last few days, all working now

[earnest granite]

Wish I could make something like that but I just use VTRPC-CE from Trucky

for my VTC

[raw notch]

forked the vtrpc?

[earnest granite]

I tried VTRPC i think but didn't work out

[mossy cloud]

Well cloned it and made a lot of changes lol

[earnest granite]

That's what I wanna do

but never could too confusing

[raw notch]

vtrpc-ce is more straightforward

[mossy cloud]

I'll take a look

But it does work with the tracker :)

[raw notch]

it's not a tracker, indeed

[mossy cloud]

Yeah ik, just saying I got mine to work as one app which is what we want :P

[earnest granite]

Not really any tutorials on how to customize VTRPC so i can try it

[mossy cloud]

If you just try to find tutorials on everything you won't get better, just try things out, see what works ^-^

[ember canyon]

What is VTRPC?

[royal quiver]

Discord Rich Presence system for ETS2 and TMP. You can find out more here: https://truckyapp.com/vtrpc-community-edition/

[ember canyon]

Thanks!

Im thinking about making a tracker for my own VTC but that will take some time since i dont have much experience with programming...

[royal quiver]

This isn't a tracker.

[ember canyon]

Yeah, Im aware of that

[royal quiver]

It only does the Discord Rich Presence, although you could combine it with VTLog if you wanted something like that.

[ember canyon]

I was just saying 😛

[raw notch]

Vtlog + Trucky Overlay is the virtual trucking swiss knife everyone should have :D

[mossy cloud]

No offence to you but I'd rather have something more complex, but custom :)

But yeah Trucky overlay is great :)

[raw notch]

sure no offence. but not everyone could code. so we just build tools for them ;)

[mossy cloud]

Fair point ^-^

[ember canyon]

I might just start learning cc+

I've learnt d.py

cc+ is on my watchlist

[unkempt hamlet]

c++?

[dapper echo]

[ember canyon]

My bad

c++ is what I meant to say

[slim pendant]

c++ is a scary world

[high sorrel]

Haha

[cinder spear]

made a quick discord rss/atom feed "bot" controlled from a web ui

[foggy osprey]

Nice!

If I can give some small constructive feedback, maybe try to improve the web ui a bit more. Buttons don't have (or have very basic) styling currently, and the input fields look a little bit plain. Maybe try to add a small shadow e.g.
Simple things like that can make it look a whole lot better imo 🙂

[raw notch]

oooh finally after 3 days radio streaming in overlay is integrated with keyboard media controls and update the current song title directly from the Shoutcast metadata

[high sorrel]

Ooooo nicee

[slim pendant]

https://files.httpreq.club/TtTjnBT32f1BoASq got my workspace setup again, time to update the library

[slim pendant]

i will probaly remove the trucky client since its not really that useful

[ember canyon]

does anyone know how to get jnto property are thingy for wifi... so i can have access to almost anything and edit a lot of crap with my wifi?

[royal quiver]

Generally, the IP will be printed on the back or underside of the router, with the admin password (and potentially username).

You should just be able to log in with those details.

[silver hull]

open command prompt and type in "ipconfig /all", now look for the gateway-address.
if you paste the gateway-address into your web browser, you will get to the router login screen

[royal quiver]

does anyone know what devops is?

[raw notch]

kinda..

[royal quiver]

I was thinking developer of operations or something

[raw notch]

is a mythological creature

no..

"operations" are intended in this case as deploy, continuos deployment, continuos integrations and so on

is not really a person in particular, is a technique

[royal quiver]

sounds logical

[unkempt hamlet]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DevOps

[ember canyon]

I just realised how easy it is to make a live map foe my vtc website xD

i went to the github page and found out that all you need to do is put your VTC ID in the link

[royal quiver]

really?

which website is this?

[unkempt hamlet]

Is there any way to run ETS2/ATS in the background without muting the game and pausing all inputs?

[royal quiver]

apparently windowed mode works according to https://steamcommunity.com/app/227300/discussions/0/458607699616811201/

[unkempt hamlet]

Nope.

without muting the game and pausing all inputs

[quick glen]

@royal quiver I'd imagine he's talking about vtlog's online map. I dont know of any other map thats out there with the same functionality.

[royal quiver]

the only thing I could think of would be using a VM

if you passed through your gpu, performance wouldn't be too bad either

[unkempt hamlet]

That's too much

[long bridge]

hey, does anyone got a discord bot that has working code to get all the information off the server info api and send it all in a message. I can get it to work and print out the stuff in the console, but it doesnt work when i want the bot to send it as a message

[shadow marsh]

Do you mean such a message?

[long bridge]

i mean on the TMP servers

[visual walrus]

In game? Doubt it.

[shadow marsh]

You mean the TMP API and printing some Infos in such an Embed?

[royal quiver]

You can type /server in the in-game chat to identify the details about the server, and I'm sure there's probably a way to do it with the api.

[unkempt hamlet]

TruckersMP has no in-game connections with Discord.

[quick glen]

I think they want to pull info about the TMP servers off the API and post it in a message in their discord and not in-game

[unkempt hamlet]

[shadow marsh]

I am currently looking into Trucky API and also TMP API.... when doing a player lookup, both want the TMP ID... so far so good, but how can Trucky use a name to get player?

Like I want to do [p]truckersmp user Maurice Bailey and not [p]truckersmp user 2694641
As both want an Integer and not a String is there any possibility to do a workaround

[unkempt hamlet]

In TruckersMP, there is no public API to search by a player name.

[raw notch]

@shadow marsh magic 😄

[shadow marsh]

[raw notch]

exactly, what you need?

[shadow marsh]

well, I just want to put that in my bot so I also can search by names and not their ID - basically I just want a player and serverlookup

[wooden glade]

Anyone know how to get Atom to show in Discord activity? I've gone through the settings and tried installing an Atom extension for Discord but nothing I tried seems to work lol

[royal quiver]

do you mean a Discord Rich Presence or just a playing Atom?

[royal quiver]

This looks like a simple solution https://atom.io/packages/atom-discord

[wooden glade]

I just want it to be able to come up like it does when someones using phpstorm for example lol even just playing "Atom Editor".

I tried that extension buddy and it doesn't seem to work for me :/

[royal quiver]

Go to Settings / Game Activity and press add a game 😉

If you just want the "playing Atom Editor"

[wooden glade]

I tried that buddy but for some reason it's wanting me to show one file at a time i.e. I don't wanna show files, I just want Atom lol

[shadow marsh]

Add Atom in Discord to your games, so it will show that you are in Atom but not, what you are doing currently

[slim pendant]

why even use atom

[royal quiver]

personal preference

some people prefer a cleaner experience

[slim pendant]

i mean if its all about a cleaner preference theres nvim, vsc

[slim pendant]

true, 300 database queries with 200 switch statements

[shadow marsh]

oh welp.... that is much lol

[slim pendant]

overexaggeration much

[foggy osprey]

Only 300 queries? Noob, i have at least 400 per page load

[mossy cloud]

@foggy osprey You dont need to store every character of the hashed password in a separate table ya know 😂

[foggy osprey]

Hm?

You guys don't do that?

It's secure!

[mossy cloud]

lol

We dont use passwords lol

Just use md5, what could go wrong

Somewhere a developer is having a panic attack rn reading this haha

[earnest granite]

And then I'm just sitting here brain dead

[foggy osprey]

Passwords? For the Phoenix admin panel, there just is a password

It's stored in the js

And being validated with an if input === password

[dusky juniper]

hello i have using a lot of beacons but with out using a save edit did the game moderator has a reason to ban me

?

[shadow marsh]

What has that to do with Development

[dusky juniper]

are you a developper ?

[shadow marsh]

Yes but not here

but still, what has beacons to do with development?

[dusky juniper]

i am talking about here

are you a developper in truckersmp

?

[shadow marsh]

No? I am just a patron like you

but I don't get it what beacons from ETS2 has something to do with DEVELOPMENT....

[dusky juniper]

so you are just a simple user like me i didnt talk to you

[shadow marsh]

Yes I am "just" an user

But still, what has Beacons from the Game to do with programming?

[dusky juniper]

sorry bro thats what you want

[tardy smelt]

https://truckersmp.com/rules#3-save-editing

[ember canyon]

What does save editing beacons have to do with development? xD

[royal quiver]

it uses a text editor, so I guess that's cOdInG

[ember canyon]

xD

In just think the guy's desperate to get unbanned 🤷‍♂️

He just have to respect save editing rules ::

[ember canyon]

yep

[shadow marsh]

I tried today to implement reaction roles by myself in my bot - so far, it's much work, but it's basically working on the first try currently the addrole command is working and the reactadd and reactremove listeners - now I will implement the removerole and togglerole (so just add but not removeable)

[mossy cloud]

Well done 😄

[shadow marsh]

thanks

[ember canyon]

I might give that a shot today aswell

For now I've done a command to give and remove a role

[royal quiver]

If I want to build a command in Python to check whether anyone from a list of tmpIDs is online how would I do that?

[unkempt hamlet]

There is no public API on TruckersMP map

[quartz moth]

@royal quiver You can contact Krashnz on the forums for the map API data afaik 😄

[royal quiver]

Thanks for the suggestion! I've just sent them a message. 😃

[ember canyon]

Im gonna try to make a database with sqlite today

so i have a command which will allow me to input data

lets see how it goes

[raw notch]

Use Trucky API

[mossy cloud]

You're going to have that written on your gravestone 😂

[raw notch]

https://api.truckyapp.com/docs/#api-Trucky_Map-GetV2MapOnlinelistIdsListofplayers

so you wont have to worry about enormous API response from live map, caching and whatever 🙂

with location resolution and server details: https://api.truckyapp.com/v2/map/onlineList?ids=3804964,3567535

[raw notch]

i should write something else... but.. also that is not bad 🙂

[royal quiver]

how do I use the trucky api in python?

[raw notch]

with a normal http get

as you use every rest api

[winged snow]

hi to you say polish

[foggy osprey]

polish

[winged snow]

jestem sorry

[meager spoke]

English only please @winged snow

[slim pendant]

no wrapper made for python yet?

[graceful belfry]

Getting into web development what would be the best framework to start with. I planning on creating API’s later down the road so i want something that would work well

[tardy smelt]

Laravel is a nice framework if you want to get into PHP

[graceful belfry]

Alrighty will give that a look. Any good resources for learning php?

[tardy smelt]

There's a lot of documentation here:
https://laravel.com/

The syntax it self isn't that hard in PHP. If you used other languages you'll get a hang of it pretty fast

[graceful belfry]

Alrighty cool! I am familiar with node js. My main goal is the get my website and discord bot to be able to interact with eachother

[tardy smelt]

I'm sure you can build an API in Node js. I've never used Node JS personally tho

[graceful belfry]

Like being able to type a message on the website then the message is sent via discord bot but yeah i will have to look into it

Thanks again

[tardy smelt]

You should look into websocket

[ember canyon]

where is the best place to learn python coding at home?

for free?

[raw notch]

websockets with socket.io and discordbot with discordjs and commando.
or, you can integrate an express application to your nodejs bot and send API calls from the website directly from the bot.
I personally use websockets for TruckyBot and it's quite easy

[ocean mural]

@graceful belfry You can also have a look over at laracasts. There is a whole series. Called Laravel from scratch (Or fimiliar at least)

[slim pendant]

https://www.npmjs.com/package/express

[graceful belfry]

Thanks for all of the help guys!!

[ember canyon]

what would you recommend to learn python coding?

[graceful belfry]

Having some issues installing laravel, Anytime i run php artisan serve it just tells me the Mcrypt extension is missing, I suspect that my versions of laravel and php are incompatible with each other. I am running the latest version of PHP, having a hard time trying to figure out what version of laravel i am running though

[unkempt hamlet]

You need to install or activate phpXXX-mcrypt extension.

Latest Laravel version is 8.x

[royal quiver]

Youtube tutorials or just get an IDE and read the libraries. Having a clear end goal would really help to motivate you.

[ember canyon]

ive got help with python via visual studio code lemme send a pic

when i do a code and then press “run”

it shows those yellow wordings and useless white wording... in the terminal,..

how can this be fixed?

like i just want to see if the code worked

so i just needed to see “hello” and the 2nd line i only needed to see the code i ran and then “syntaxerror etc etc”

not the name of my files or anything...

[ember canyon]

guys?

[vast nebula]

@ember canyon quotation marks are different in the print

[ember canyon]

no no no

i mean like

wait lemme higlihht

it

this is what i dont need

the higlighted parts

part*

i just want the answer after running it, not what file it is in...

Good morning I have developed a UCP "User Control Panel" Is someone interested and would like to have it? Greetings Mo1993

[ember canyon]

https://easyupload.io/q2v4za README and LICENSE are included.

i need help with the following

[royal quiver]

@ember canyon

[unkempt hamlet]

I mean

[ember canyon]

thx lol

lemme check and see if it works

[royal quiver]

it does help to do the lessons

so you can actually learn something

[ember canyon]

cmon man... im only new at python... i strted it like 2 hours ago:..

oh did i just ping him?

oh crap

im hetting banned

[unkempt hamlet]

I mean, you need to study in order to learn smth

[ember canyon]

... grok learning is what im using to study...

also that code kinda didnt work...

top one is mine

i copied the code from what he gave me

[unkempt hamlet]

Change print() output to meet the requirements

[ember canyon]

this one

wait...

change what?

the ()?

pls dont judge...

like i only started like 2 hours ago

im still learning

i suggest you watch a tutorial to learn the basics first

omg lol

so grok learning is mainly for school

it is hoghly recommend

[royal quiver]

so just do all the tasks

[ember canyon]

and when i was at school i used it for a different language and i learnt it quick

yes sometimes u get stuck like i a@

but after spending a while mucking around with the code

you find what your problem was and say “ahhh u idiot... thats my problem?? lol”

sooo... i looked it up roght

this was the answer

wow

just wow

[quick glen]

@ember canyon You are literally asking for the answers to an educational website. Thats not how you learn at all. If you followed all the steps before that task you would have learnt everything you needed to do that question on your own, thats how these learning sites work.

We in this channel are not teachers, thats why we tell you to go watch a video. None of us are here to teach, and some of us quite frankly get a lot of people asking similar questions and get a bit pissed of at it at times.

The best way to learn any kind of programming language on your own is to use a learning site like you are properly (by completing ALL the previous tasks) and find some educational videos that teach you the basics. If you need a person to actually teach you, then this is not the right place to ask for that. You would need to go to a service where you most likely have to pay for that. There might be some communities around where they do it for free, but thats not here.

We're not here to teach, we are here to chat/discuss programming

[unkempt hamlet]

The answer is literally in the previous steps.

I had to register to confirm this

[ember canyon]

cant see the answer lol

i kept trying to find it

[ember canyon]

sorry 😦

[ember canyon]

i wont ask for anymore hwelp

[quick glen]

You are not supposed to find it, you are supposed to create it yourself out of what you learnt in the previous steps

[ember canyon]

no i ment tried to find the previous step

[quick glen]

Combining the different lessons of the steps into one solution that is the answer

[ember canyon]

allow me to explain it

just hang on for a moment

look at this

what cj showed was

[unkempt hamlet]

TheUnknownNO said it certainly well.

That's how learning process works.

[ember canyon]

yes it shows the answer however

this is the actual answer

bit different from the one cj sent

but its all g

i got it figured out

thx cj

[unkempt hamlet]

It literally combines previous lessons together.

[ember canyon]

...

i know

just...

next time ill read it more carefully

[unkempt hamlet]

Ugh...

[ember canyon]

but than you for your help

sorry for wasting your time

😦

[high sorrel]

Tell you what

It's not the first time I've accidentally missed out two letters in my code

And it certainly won't be the last

😂 😅

[high plank]

I have done that before

Definitely a pain

[graceful belfry]

GG

[wooden glade]

May I suggest maybe putting TMP servers behind cloudflare or something? Would make is extremely difficult for the saddos DDoSing your servers

[raw notch]

you cant. CF supports only http\https reverse proxy, so 80 and 443

[wooden glade]

They do support more than that. I've seen it done

[raw notch]

you cannot proxy different protocols, such as simple TCP/IP, ssh or ftp

[wooden glade]

You can, i've seen numerous companies put game servers behind cloudflare

[raw notch]

because probably they are reachable via port 80

[wooden glade]

Deffo not reachable with port 80, that's too easy for hackers

Big multi billion dollar game companies rely on cloudflare for their servers. You just need to contact them and work with them but it can be done

[raw notch]

"multi bilion dollar" exactly 🙂

[rugged copper]

Cloudflare has a service called Spectrum which might be what you’re suggesting, but it’s not for every day customers I believe https://www.cloudflare.com/products/cloudflare-spectrum

[raw notch]

CF has many many many other paid services, some of them are very expensive, and you need CF Enterprise, and it's starting from 3k$-5k$ monthly, paid service billing apart

[wooden glade]

They also work with businesses and the the gaming community but I think for that you have to reach out to them and discuss it in more detail

[rugged copper]

I mean for spectrum you have to contact sales which automatically means you’ll pay the big bucks 😂

[unkempt hamlet]

Spectrum is EXTREMELY pricey

[wooden glade]

Yes but you have to admit it's worth it to hugely reduce the DDoS attacks

[raw notch]

as all paid CF services

you are talking about a service costing some K$ per month...

[wooden glade]

You can't expect them to run such a service for free. Obviously you gotta pay something, it costs them a ton of money and time to run such a service

[shadow marsh]

Yeah, but where should TruckersMP take this money?

noone in the team has so much money to spend it on that, as they all are working voluntary... that's not a company in here AFAIK

and noone is shitting out money

[rugged copper]

$1 per gigabyte 😂 https://support.cloudflare.com/hc/en-us/articles/360041721872-Billing-for-Spectrum

[wooden glade]

Donations, increased patreon merch, website advert banners etc. People love TMP enough they'll be happy to help support

[raw notch]

other companies, like Kaspersky, offer anti ddos tunnels but you have to control your IP subnet, have particular firewall configurations etc

and a part this, we are talking however about a monthly price of 3-5k$ per month

only to maintain this mechanism alive, then, there are bills during ddos for extra traffic and such

[shadow marsh]

Welp.... how many GB/TB/PB went thru the servers in 2020?

[wooden glade]

Well excuse me for trying to help and offer good practical solutions. Next time i'll stay quiet 😒

[raw notch]

there are dreams and expectations, then there is reality

[ember canyon]

[wooden glade]

Listen man, it's good to discuss things, but clearly by trying to help i've triggered a nerve and now you're being all pissy with me

I'm gonna go. Too early for this. Next I won't bother trying to help

[raw notch]

you are talking with someone has convinced some years ago his CTO to pay roughly 7k$ per month for two combined ddos protection while working at an ecommerce. After 2 weeks of continuos ddos putting offline the whole site and losing more than 7k$ money, it's easy to convince someone 🙂

so simply running costs have to be considered in relation to another economic benefit. It's the old but fashoned cost\opportunity. If someone have to pay k$ to mantain a service alive, means he's getting more of those money from that service

[wooden glade]

I'm not trying to convince anyone. I'm trying to offer the best realistic and most practible solutions to help reduce the attacks.

All i'm trying to do here is help

[raw notch]

ok.. but, it's not a realistic solution 😄

[wooden glade]

My company will be launching next month, one of my services is dedicated servers. I offer an enterprise DDoS solution for an extra £20 a month but that only covers up to 1Tbps DDoS protection

[shadow marsh]

[wooden glade]

Basic protection is only 5Gbps so for a gaming server, i'm not sure if it'd be enough for TMP as I don't know how strong the DDoS atttacks have been as i'm not staff lol

Sorry I meant this month on 31st January. I'm still properly waking up lol

[tidal zodiac]

Just to give you a little idea about numbers, one of our game servers used around 50TB of bandwidth last month

[raw notch]

https://tenor.com/view/nod-nodding-okay-not-bad-into-it-gif-7853043

one

[shadow marsh]

50TB just in one month?

That... that is much lol

[twin forge]

that's the thing, TMP is not profit-oriented so at this rate the only ones losing money are the attackers.

I used to have a (small) TS3 server that would report to the server list and because of that alone was targeted for no specific reason. But my hoster has a free DDoS protection (they recently upgraded it to 2 Tbps, but it was lower back then) that starts rerouting traffic through their filter as soon as they notice the attack (which results in an actual downtime of 1 minute or so). I mean the attacks were probably insignificant compared to what TMP is getting because there was really no reason for the attacks, but nevertheless it was quite nice to see them fail again and again 😄

[wooden glade]

Dang that's a lot of bandwidth

My current servers offer the following bandwidth:

Outbound : 100TB
Inbound Unmetered (basically no bandwidth limits). I'm still in the process of developing the website and still adding the full range of servers to the website but I am more than happy to discuss this further if the TMP team are interested? I'd love to help any way I can.

I'm not trying to promote myself by the way, I'm just trying to help TMP 🙂

[unkempt hamlet]

It is traffic, not bandwidth

[wooden glade]

True but they are built for really high traffic websites

well I say websites could be anything really but mainly websites lol

Same as I say, there's still a lot to be added to the unfinished website yet but I'm more than happy to DM you with a link so you can get a rough idea

[unkempt hamlet]

High traffic value doesn't mean you can actually process it

It is just a value

What will be capped first when DDoSed? CPU or network?

[wooden glade]

I totally hear you buddy but the servers are built for high traffic and high usage on day to day basis. They aren't built for every day things such as a basic website or reselling for example. The servers are monitored 24/7 with multiple systems in place but if the worst came to worst for example it would more likely be the CPU in all honesty but part of the DDoS mitigation we wouldn't let it get to that point, the minute it gets close to throttling, we'd already be in the process of migrating and mitigating the attack

[unkempt hamlet]

As like "high traffic" is not "every day things"

[wooden glade]

Sorry I'm not great at explaining things, that's my fault but basically we have network hardware and cloud hypervisors with a rapid, pretty much instant failover so the traffic really wouldn't be an issue in all honesty

[unkempt hamlet]

That's not an issues when you can pay for it

As for TruckersMP, you cannot just migrate a gameserver to another instance, because we are working on a bare metal iirc.

[wooden glade]

Yeahh, that's understandable and I agree with you. I really do but you would have your own seperate dedicated server. The whole server would be 100% yours. There's no sharing or piggy backing off shared servers.

[unkempt hamlet]

Yeah

[quartz moth]

Cloudflare whilst works well, doesn't always work successfully all the time

[narrow flame]

Which language do you give priority to in web programming? (General)

[unkempt hamlet]

HTML

Duh

[royal quiver]

I use Microsoft Small Basic for web programming

[unkempt hamlet]

Language priority is based on your skill and experience. These days, HTML and CSS are the only basic things in web. JS apps can be replaced by WebAssembly.

For a backend, you have +100500 various languages, frameworks and engines.

[rugged copper]

If TMP used spectrum, they’d be looking at $50k a month just for one server 😂

[unkempt hamlet]

Ouch

[shadow marsh]

that's what a average person earns in a whole year

[ember canyon]

Yeah

[royal quiver]

tmp would need a lot more patrons

or just include shocking amounts of advertising and tracking

[raw notch]

@wooden glade you could give a server for free to TruckersMP in exchange of advertising 🙂

[delicate wyvern]

Who earns that much in a year

[dapper echo]

Depends on the country you live in

[shadow marsh]

Well hunny - my mom earns a bit more than that though - it'S quite average in AT 😄

[raw notch]

i know someone..

[delicate wyvern]

Most people here afaik are in 30-40k

[jovial jetty]

The average salary in the UK is a little over £30k

[high plank]

I would say classify as sector first

Some are at a average of 20k, whereas some jobs are at a average of 70k

[raw notch]

the average of something is always related to similar ones :D

[high plank]

People who live in posh areas like Knightsbridge have money

[delicate wyvern]

Or anywhere south

Houses are so much more expensive down here when compared to up north

[high plank]

So up north, a town with houses that are at a 300k average is good?

[delicate wyvern]

A house for 300k is good

Here you’d get a flat for that

[high plank]

So a 700k detached house is good?

[royal quiver]

Depends on the house

Price does not equal quality

[high plank]

Let me go on Rightmove then

[royal quiver]

Permission granted ☑

[high plank]

Permission ungranted because I’m driving and texting in game

[wooden glade]

I would love to but unable to at this time, I'll be more than happy to once I've started pulling in really good profits 🙂

[unkempt hamlet]

https://developer.x-plane.com/2021/01/have-you-heard-the-good-news-about-elixir/

[north flax]

Time for a new TMP server in Elixir then, with their open source RakNet implementation? 😛

Can't say I haven't been wanting to make a better multithreaded/multi-node server implementation of the TMP server, both before and after I left the team.

It would certainly be an interesting challenge, though I don't think I'd pick Elixir for it

[shadow marsh]

I'm still waiting for a MMO with a server with > 10.000 Slots but that will probably and sadly never happen

[mystic ridge]

10,000 slots sounds like hell. I remember once we tried 5,000 slots and that was an... interesting experience

[jovial jetty]

Is there even a need for that many slots?

[north flax]

I think that with enough slots you can to a greater extent avoid hotspots over time, since people meet more people regardless where they go

I would also be interested in the challenge in general

And better thread usage could lower server costs since they wouldn't rely on single core performance to the same extent

[shadow marsh]

Why does it sounds like hell? I mean, TMP is for sure capable of doing that, and the thing is, only drivers who are following every single rule (street rules and TMP rules of course), it would make fun then - so we aka "good drivers" have a dedicated server, because Sim1 is still EU#2 just with 110km/h Vmax and not 150km/h

[jovial jetty]

Overhauling the amount of slots, would also need an overhaul of Game Mods and a higher capacity for report demos to equate the rise in slot numbers

That explains why it would be like hell ^

[shadow marsh]

Well, I can agree with you on that - imo they should try that

[north flax]

I don't think TMP is capable of running a 10k slot server, no. And making the server multithreaded would be a massive undertaking, and take a lot of time

[shadow marsh]

Yeah, you may be right though 😄

[jovial jetty]

And more people would go to already congested areas, causing more congestion an affect those who have lower end PCs

[shadow marsh]

Also true

[jovial jetty]

I don't see a problem with the current capacity tbh, works for most

[unkempt hamlet]

I am working on a one small project to get used to Elixir, maybe then we'll be able to figure it out.

[tardy smelt]

Hey guys,

We'll be releasing the Event System API endpoint later today.

Once released, I'll be posting here endpoint example that you'll be able to use.

Have a great day!

[jovial jetty]

[foggy osprey]

[royal quiver]

it would be awesome if we could get the server id from the event request

[jovial jetty]

Wait and see

[unkempt hamlet]

https://blog.cloudflare.com/cloudflare-waiting-room/

Pog

https://www.theregister.com/2021/01/22/aws_elastic_fork/

Pog x2

[cinder spear]

idk how else elastic saw that move going

[tardy smelt]

API endpoint for the event system:
https://api.truckersmp.com/v2/events
https://api.truckersmp.com/v2/events/[EVENTID]
https://api.truckersmp.com/v2/vtc/[VTCID]/events
https://api.truckersmp.com/v2/vtc/[VTCID]/events/[EVENTID]

[royal quiver]

can someone pin that?

[raw notch]

starting date is UTC?

[tardy smelt]

Yeah all the time there is in UTC

Let me know if you find any issues

[raw notch]

is correct dlc is always empty and vtc is always 0 and name null?

[tardy smelt]

vtc id will be 0 and name to null when there's no VTC assigned to that event

[raw notch]

is not the user's VTC?

what does it mean "VTC assigned"?

[north flax]

I assume it's up to the person if they make it as a VTC event, or just an event

[tardy smelt]

VTC have a separate page to create event now where they can assign permission and things like that

DLC is a new feature that was added today

Same for VTC

[raw notch]

ok

so it's normal is empty for old eventz

[tardy smelt]

Correct

The changelog:

• Added VTC support to Event System
• Added API support to Event System (For Event and VTC Event)
• Added DLCs requirement for the Event System

[raw notch]

ok thanks

[tardy smelt]

The DLC contains 2 things.

DLC app_id and DLC name

If you have a VTC you can test it out 😛

I expect the VTC to start using the system soon. I've made them aware a week ago of the change

[raw notch]

the whole list is featured + today + now + upcoming?

[tardy smelt]

The main events endpoint should return the same events as you see here:
https://truckersmp.com/events

[raw notch]

i mean, featured is present also in upcoming?

[tardy smelt]

They are separate :

featured => array of events
today => array of events
now => array of events
upcoming => array of events

[raw notch]

so all unique events not repeated

[tardy smelt]

It could repeat

[raw notch]

so "featured is present also in upcoming?" is "yes" 😄

[tardy smelt]

Featured events and Events in next 24h or Now

Yea

Only events featured could be duplicated

[raw notch]

the dlcs have a strange format... array of arrays?

[tardy smelt]

I'll push a fix for it in a few hours.

The output should be the following when the fix is live:

"dlcs":{"463740":"Arizona","684630":"New Mexico","800370":"Oregon","1015160":"Washington","1104880":"Utah","1209470":"Idaho","1209471":"Colorado","1415692":"Wyoming"}

[raw notch]

ok

the response contains 32 events (at least now) and only 12 upcoming

while there are 18 pages

[tardy smelt]

How many events is on the homepage tho 😛

[raw notch]

why not all?

[ember canyon]

Event API

[tardy smelt]

Because otherwise people could just build their own "events" system and list our event on their site

[raw notch]

seriously? 😄

[tardy smelt]

It's the same logic with the VTC endpoint

And nobody complained

[raw notch]

because i'm not interested in vtcs yet 😄

[tardy smelt]

If you can show me what you want to do with it. I could decide if it's worth doing it or not

[raw notch]

mmm... what do you think i should do with that data? 😄

[tardy smelt]

Who knows

[raw notch]

this, but nevermind, nothing useful

[tardy smelt]

If you want to use it on your app and behave the same way it is in your app. I could make something up. I'll output the basic information so you can listen them on your app if you wish.

But only if they get redirected to TMP

[raw notch]

i never thought to steal events from TruckersMP, and yes, would linked directly to the source as always had been back to ets2c support, for example

[jovial jetty]

Will the Event API be added to the API docs for future reference?

[tardy smelt]

Yes, we will do it soon™️ Encrypted

The fix for the dlcs is live now Trucky

Also Trucky here is a VTC example with DLC:
https://truckersmp.com/events/482-pries-march-convoy

[raw notch]

thanks

[foggy osprey]

The VTC option for an event, where can we select that?

Also, is that something that can be added to existing events? Or only for new ones

[tardy smelt]

Only for new. If you have a VTC you'll see a new button called "Event" bellow administration on the left side

[foggy osprey]

Alright, thanks ^^

New API features look promising, looking forward to implementing that soon

As a suggestion, the "edit event" VTC permission description could use some rewording imo 🙂

[tardy smelt]

What would you suggest? The permission give the person who created the event only be able to edit that event

[dapper echo]

I think you shouldn’t use the word he, you should use they/them.

[unkempt hamlet]

"He" as in "User"

But yeah, might be reworded

[lilac aurora]

"Can edit self-created events"

[mossy cloud]

How do I link an existing event to show as the VTC please?

[wooden glade]

Hello, I was wondering if someone might be able to help? I'm currently trying to get Atom to show up in my Discord activity. I've tried installing the Atom Discord plugin but I cannot seem to get it to work properly/show up

[foggy osprey]

I asked the same, can only be on new events sadly

Would've been nice to have tho

[foggy osprey]

This plugin? https://atom.io/packages/atom-discord

[tardy smelt]

@mossy cloud add me on discord

[mossy cloud]

Sent :)

[unkempt hamlet]

https://onurgumus.github.io/2021/01/23/Does-your-code-pass-the-Turkey-test.html

[raw notch]

yes

[mossy cloud]

reads through article, logs onto Cloudflare and geoblocks the country instead 😂

Got our tracker finally working 😄

[royal quiver]

nice one! did you make everything from scratch or is it based on VTLog or something?

[mossy cloud]

Well not everything, so it's using ETCars as a base, then uses NodeJS client which has been then developed/modified extensively

Then I custom made an API server-side so that it sends data from the tracker to the API

Then there's an MySQL Event that removes any drivers from the map/live data where data hasn't been received in over 30 seconds

[high sorrel]

niceeee

[ember canyon]

@mossy cloud Why not use websockets?

[unkempt hamlet]

LOL

[slim pendant]

are the structures documented?

[tardy smelt]

Not yet

[cinder spear]

as usual, frontend looks great, backend is spaghetti, API is presentable and documentation is just tumbleweeds

[high sorrel]

Lol

Sounds accurate

[tardy smelt]

Krash is the one who is doing the API documentation since it's hosted on his thing

[north flax]

Psst: https://vyuldashev.github.io/laravel-openapi/ 😛

[slim pendant]

php tho

[unkempt hamlet]

So? We are using PHP for TruckersMP Website

And Laravel

[slim pendant]

well i didnt know

no commits have been done to the php api for some reason

[unkempt hamlet]

You mean, TMP PHP API?

[slim pendant]

yes

i guess its an mirror

[unkempt hamlet]

https://github.com/TruckersMP/API-Client

[slim pendant]

yes that one

[unkempt hamlet]

Well, there was nothing added to our API lately.

[slim pendant]

but.. 4 endpoints just got added

[unkempt hamlet]

Several days ago

[slim pendant]

yes?

[rugged copper]

It's also open source so anyone is free to open a PR 😉

[cinder spear]

we all know how relying on anyone being free to open PRs works out

[rugged copper]

[slim pendant]

php is sadly not in my stack

[mossy cloud]

PHP isn't bad to use. Just because it's not the 'new flashiest thing' doesn't matter, it works

[slim pendant]

thats.. not what i said

[tardy smelt]

I use PHP 16h a day

[delicate wyvern]

Wrong channel

[unkempt hamlet]

https://scotthelme.co.uk/setting-up-a-quick-and-easy-status-page-with-cloudflare-workers/

[foggy osprey]

Woah, that looks interesting

[quartz moth]

Would you think of trying that out for https://truckersmpstatus.com/ ?

[unkempt hamlet]

We need an incident system though

[royal quiver]

an RSS feed for incidents would be awesome

[unkempt hamlet]

We do have one

[royal quiver]

I must have missed that, is there a place I can subscribe?

[mossy cloud]

https://truckersmpstatus.com/rss

[royal quiver]

Thanks 🙂

[unkempt hamlet]

It was there since day one

[unkempt hamlet]

https://twitter.com/Microsoft/status/1354854252250877953

Microsoft (@Microsoft)

It’s CTRL + C, CTRL + C, CTRL + C, CTRL + C, and then CTRL + V.

Twitter · Jan 28, 2021, 6:10 PM

[cinder spear]

except when it's ctrl+shift+c

[meager spoke]

[cinder spear]

in Windows Terminal

[unkempt hamlet]

Windows Terminal can do Ctrl+C already

But yeah, you can copy in Terminal once only lol

[cinder spear]

but I get paranoid about it

[mystic ridge]

The ironic thing about that tweet is sometimes you do actually have to do that. There's been so many instances where I've hit Ctrl+C and it hasn't copied what I wanted it to, same thing with the right click context menu and clicking Copy. No idea why

[royal quiver]

Operating systems and applications aren't perfect. I've found that in Ps particularly I had issues copying an object as it just kept pasting the previous one. Clearing my clipboard in the Windows settings helped though

[slim pendant]

thats because in old operation systems / applications ctrl + c would be a SIG_KILL thats why the shift bind was invented

[cinder spear]

SIGINT*

[ebon garden]

I do this everytime.

[raw notch]

https://status.truckyapp.com/ works for you?

[shadow marsh]

yes ^^

[quartz moth]

@raw notch I think you spelt your API backend URL incorrectly on the status page

[unkempt hamlet]

Yep

[quartz moth]

https://api.trucykapp.com/docs

trucy

[meager spoke]

trucy

[ebon garden]

[raw notch]

whoops

😄

[unkempt hamlet]

Stonks

[raw notch]

it's correct 😄

the URL is wrong

btw, CF Workers ftw

the funny thing is have fixed it, pushed.. and wrong again 😄

so re-pushed 😄

[quartz moth]

Me when doing anything

[raw notch]

yesterday lost 1 hours and at the end resolved there was a missing "d" in a css class

[high plank]

That’s also me all the time

[mild swallow]

i think everyone will agree:

1. Can't fix this
2. Crisis of confidence
3. Questions career
4. Questions life
5. Oh it was a typo, cool

[unkempt hamlet]

[ember canyon]

Do you like lua ?

Or you think like me that lua is a joke ?

[unkempt hamlet]

Lua has a concrete purpose

[high sorrel]

Everything has its uses I guess

Except for those guys using Brainf**k

[ember canyon]

Lol

Anybody willing to help me make my game a little bit better ? If so, I’ll pay you once the group gets more funds.

[ebon garden]

I could make your game better

I don't want the money tho

[cinder spear]

one of those nights

[shadow marsh]

After debugging my code now for over 4 hours I managed to get it running now. My bot can do reaction roles now 😄 the functions in commands are per se adding roles, removing roles, toggle them to singleuse/reverting it and listing all roles by channel and message-id 😄 Gladly I've done this

[ebon garden]

What language?

[shadow marsh]

Java

[ebon garden]

Nice

[graceful belfry]

Heya currently using plesk on my VPS having lots of annoying issues with it. Is there anything better than plesk?

[unkempt hamlet]

Here: #programming message

[unkempt hamlet]

https://github.blog/2021-02-02-npm-7-is-now-generally-available/