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cinder spear
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an internal tool to power moderation of millions of people

tardy smelt
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Good luck! :p

rich flint
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Just what i needed, a crackling sound in the phone line and slow fibre broadband...

small ermine
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πŸ˜‚

north flax
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(Not my clip)

lethal willow
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jeez, that nesting..

small ermine
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O.o

rich flint
ember canyon
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the new update has a lot of bugs

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1 the wheel when it is idle stays on the left

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2 it says steam offline

small ermine
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@royal wharf just a quick friendly note - you may need a media query or two to sort out what's going on with your site on tiny phones πŸ˜›

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If you just did the width thing within a media query for devices over a certain width, that could work quite well.

royal wharf
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I know the issue. Working with people to fix it

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Did try to fix it myself, didn't work

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Bad at coding

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Β―_(ツ)_/Β―

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I want to die

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I really no longer want to exist

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Had enough of everything

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I feel sick everyday of my life. I hate it

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Including my heart and blood pressure issues

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😭

small ermine
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:/

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Just leave it as normal for the main CSS, then do a media query for things larger than a small device ```css
@media(min-width:992px){ //or whatever
.yourclass{
width: 33.3%;
}
}

royal wharf
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Surely the class is everything @small ermine ?

small ermine
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I'd imagine you only need it for the part where the text goes into

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I'll take a look for you if you like 😊

royal wharf
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I have over 400 lines of CSS

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Are you sure?

small ermine
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It's okay πŸ˜›

royal wharf
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πŸ˜•

small ermine
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I could do with a good trawl through CSS πŸ˜‚

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I don't mind 😊

royal wharf
small ermine
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😁

small ermine
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Oooh

royal wharf
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@small ermine Have you ever played TMP? Or ETS2 in general?

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I've never seen you play it

small ermine
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@royal wharf I've played 86 hours (ish), then my laptop stopped working on ETS2 or TMP, so

opal arch
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@small ermine width: 33.3% gg
Better to use flexbox

small ermine
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Yeah but... Yeah πŸ˜‚

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Shh

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It was an example 😜

opal arch
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@small ermine But bad as your website troll

small ermine
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Oi!

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There's actually a new one coming SoonTM

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β„’

opal arch
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So give us news

south prism
small ermine
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πŸ‘Œ

amber oasis
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@ember canyon this isn't a place to report bugs

ember canyon
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no ik i was just saying

small ermine
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Ooooh

opal arch
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Callum S finally woke up

small ermine
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I made a website, and got an application form to submit to my API on another website, then got it to go back to the first website with a sent application stored in the second site

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😊

opal arch
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To break his website even more GWrjkKappaLUL

small ermine
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πŸ˜‚

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No, I just made an API πŸ˜‚

opal arch
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It sounds cool. But is it really needed?

small ermine
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Well, it's helpful

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Basically, a VTC can have their own site, and send applications to us to store on their VTCPanel

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Or so that they can use our API to get them back when they make their own panel

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πŸ˜›

tardy smelt
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What's your site Callum?

small ermine
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I'd tell you but it could be advertising πŸ˜‚

quick glen
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Well, since he asked for it, I wouldnt call it advertising.. AS long as you just drop the link and dont acctually try to make it into advertising πŸ˜›

small ermine
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XD

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TruckersDB, basically a huge list of companies with a lot of other stuff πŸ˜›

tardy smelt
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That's a decent side. You should look into Laravel it would make your stuff way easier to manage

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I'm thinking about building a VTC system once my contract expire from my part time company.

drifting wasp
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I had a friend who had a great idea for a VTC management system

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He got the basics of his system sorted but no design or anything

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Haven’t spoke to him for ages and his site has gone down 😦

small ermine
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Thanks 😊

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What site is that? I'm willing to help πŸ˜‰

drifting wasp
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It’s gone now

small ermine
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Ah okay πŸ˜‚

plucky beacon
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Lmao

small ermine
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I think I fixed my logger problem though πŸ˜›

crystal fable
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Pfffftttt all your people with loggers

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Standardize it

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Setup ETCARS, it does the heavy lifting

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And removes the need for each person to make a plugin

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It's also one of the best tools out there for sim data reporting

small ermine
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I use ETCARS πŸ˜›

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πŸ˜‚

crystal fable
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πŸ˜ƒ

small ermine
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I just need to make sure my logger is working properly πŸ˜›

opal arch
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It does not kappa

small ermine
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It kinda is πŸ˜›

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It will be by the end of the week 😝

crystal fable
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Lol

small ermine
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I haven't yet, because I got it working to go to my API and that was a huge step πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚

near drum
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Hello

lethal willow
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hi

crystal fable
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Pol

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Lol

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The 0.15 build has APIs built in so users sign in with steam then configure their API url and any keys needed

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Then ETCARS will make the request

tranquil mirage
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hi callum ❀

small ermine
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-_- πŸ˜‚

pearl badger
ember canyon
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Hi

crystal fable
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Hello, does anyone know how to contact a developer of TMP to arrange a discussion between myself and the developer and other developers from community projects on a possible co-operation that would benefit everyone?

amber oasis
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Open a feedback ticket

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Explain the proposal in detail, and a CM or PM will forward it to whomever is best suited to make a decision on it

crystal fable
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Even if they don't understand that context of what is being mentioned? I just don't want it to get lost because whoever is looking at it is not literate in software and IT development and gives a generic response

amber oasis
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If you can't explain it well enough that the current CM/PMs can understand it, you should perhaps work on your explanation first πŸ˜›

crystal fable
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Even still

amber oasis
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trust me, if your explanation is that bad, you should work on it, rather than waste the developer's time πŸ˜›

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ie. the ones who work on feedback, know when to route to developers, so your explanation has to be exceptionally dense for it to warrant <generic response>

main spade
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Hey guys!

ember canyon
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Hello.

pearl badger
crystal fable
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Can I ask something? Why is customization from an open source project so crucial to brand everything as their own for virtual companies? We built these open source tools and projects for the community, not for each company to rip it off and make their own without attributing to the original...not to mention we are not there to run support for people whom want to make customizations, our support is for those that are having technical issues with the released versions of our project...why are companies so obsessed with branding everything they use as their own, why don't they start branding steam as their own too then? I'm just really hating this community due to the rediculous fights between vtcs over whom has the best site, software, rpc now even! It's rediculous! So if someone could explain to me what these vtcs think they can gain that they don't already have by copying our open source stuff I'm all ears....

small ermine
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^

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Aside from the fact that most of their "custom" stuff are using exactly the same thing πŸ˜‰

crystal fable
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Exactly

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Then to not give credit/attribution

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It's like wtf

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So what you have a rpc that says your company name

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Everyone has that now

rich flint
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it's frustrating

crystal fable
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Why? Because we made it open source

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For the community

rich flint
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Open Source is not for doing whatever the hell you want with it and make it yours, Open Source is for people to help and contribute back and have the extra customisation to it. Not completely change it for yourself or a VTC

crystal fable
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Finally someone who gets it!

small ermine
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^

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I love how most "professional" VTCs have all this fancy stuff that's apparently their own custom thing, but their website is still Wix and Weebly. That's what I'm trying to avoid

crystal fable
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I'm just so frustrated with people ripping off of the project without contributing if they make their own

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Like, it's open source for people to help with, not just take away

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It just seems a bit rediculous

rich flint
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look at viva

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they have a drivers hub, discord rpc

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but they still use wix

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like whyyyyy

small ermine
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Ewwww

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If you 'make' all this stuff, at least make your website...

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If I'm completely honest, Viva isn't high on my list of VTCs, because they are good, but sometimes I can't help but feel that they want to be the VTC. I've seen a few smaller companies "merge", then disappear

south prism
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Omh

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Viva doesnt use wix

rich flint
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it does

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  1. i know the wix template they use, 2. it says in source
crystal fable
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Their site is hosted on wix(domain, file storage, code, database)

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they actually use laravel

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with a separate api domain for feeding dropdowns and data

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their template is a paid template for laravel

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and yes Viva wants to be the VTC

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unfortunately, they won't earn that title from me

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@small ermine @rich flint

rich flint
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lol

lethal willow
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Why would there be a "generator" meta with "Wix.com Website Builder" if it's Laravel?

crystal fable
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Because their home site is wix

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their "driver hub" is laravel

lethal willow
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Oh, yeah. Just saw

crystal fable
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lol

small ermine
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Just make all of it yourself!!!

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And stop trying to be the vtc

obtuse rapids
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🀦

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ill leave that here ^

rugged copper
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There's nothing wrong with them using Wix for their main site, like it does the job and in my opinion it's probably one of the best looking Wix sites I've seen

obtuse rapids
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I would agree with that, for how backwards wix can be viva have done a stunning job

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you dont have to custom code a site for it to be considered 'professional'

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Wix is also easier to maintain if you need to make changes on the fly like viva do. This is also more user friendly and the users don't have to know Laravel in order to change some stuff. I think for them its a good idea to separate their frontend and backend. At the end of the day its what works for them wesmart

rich flint
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Im surprised VIVA actually managed to get it looking so good and being so functional (Wix Main Site)

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At first before i found out it was on Wix, i thought it was completely custom coded and nothing as close to Wix sites

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I still think it's not even close to a wix site

small ermine
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It doesn't look like a Wix site

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But if they've got everything else they may as well have a custom site

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🀷

main spade
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That's my bot's website

rich flint
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not bad for a bot site

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tbh i need to update my site as it's still got the old lions and not my cat πŸ˜›

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omg i forgot it embeds like that

pearl badger
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shame the viva trucking map doesnt have the whole of italy yet

rich flint
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viva has a map?

pearl badger
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but

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its pretty wierd

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looks like it was stiched from ingame

rich flint
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looks like Krashnz's map

pearl badger
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yh

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everyones seen ets2map

rich flint
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Didn't know that was open source

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not ets2map

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wait a second

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it is vtlog map

floral mist
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iirc vtlog is the vtc krashnz is driving for

rich flint
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Globex is Krashnz's

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VTLog is Fabby's

pearl badger
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but this one actually has italy GWfroggyZoomeyes

rich flint
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VTLog is Tour o Matic

pearl badger
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might

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might make an area tracker

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to provide like adverage speeds in certain areas of the game

quick glen
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Viva does not have italy because we at vtlog didnt give them that πŸ˜›

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They got an old version of our map

pearl badger
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ik

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imo

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ets2map and all of them

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should force cache on the images

quick glen
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vtlogs map has caching via cloudflare

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and your browser should cache them, but we do not have any policies to enfore browser caching

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Some browsers dont even care about the Cache-Control header

pearl badger
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ik

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good old

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user data for people on c-d

rich flint
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lol

pearl badger
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ik

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wait

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only the top really changed GWcfcThonk

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now i need to find out

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how many km

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is one unit ingame

quick glen
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Depends

pearl badger
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just

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1 x or y

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so i can do magic

quick glen
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1 km isnt 1 x / y in game no

pearl badger
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i doubt

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coz

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england is -30000

quick glen
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there is a scale

pearl badger
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most probs

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like 100m

quick glen
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and the scale depends if you are in the UK or in europe

pearl badger
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or something

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no

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ingame coordinates

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not as

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distance

quick glen
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Just go measure it πŸ˜‰

pearl badger
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my game just decided to freeze GWcfcThonk `

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great

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now to restart it

quick glen
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Fun times xD I know I have measured these variables at some point, I just never remember what they were

pearl badger
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And find a straight bit

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drive a km

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and just hopefully get no displacement

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congrats game

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you know i crashed

crystal fable
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I do a pretty decent job of collision detection already

main spade
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@rich flint I am glad you like it

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It's not finished as well!

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❀

rich flint
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lool

small ermine
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πŸ˜‚

pearl badger
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how low can he go quick can he get rate limited

crystal fable
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lol

small ermine
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πŸ˜‚

tidal zodiac
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ETS2Map hasn't been updated yet cause we haven't had time to dig out the capture script again. It's quite a pain to hook it into the game and then we have to tile it all up. It's quite a process. Especial getting it to line up correctly with the current map...

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Also fyi, the UK has a slightly different coordinate system to the rest of Europe. iirc the scale for the UK is slightly larger hence why it's slightly different

small ermine
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O.o

main spade
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Do we...?

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Lol

small ermine
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We always have to be awkward in the UK don't we? πŸ˜‚

pearl badger
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well

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Β―_(ツ)_/Β―

main spade
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Yup lol

amber oasis
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@pearl badger iirc.the data on tracker isn't updated more than once every 5 seconds

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That's at least the rate kat got data from the game servers a couple of years ago

pearl badger
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good enough

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im not pooling it every 5 seconds

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i dont need to update it that much xd

amber oasis
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For all I know, it changed with the rewrite

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I didn't care to learn too much about it

unkempt hamlet
rich flint
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omg we need that in youtube

crystal fable
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^

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lol

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yassss

obtuse rapids
rich flint
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lol

obtuse rapids
rich flint
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just type "awesome" with ur keyboard on YT

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that's best

obtuse rapids
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oh god

royal wharf
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I like it

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πŸ˜„

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The Awesome one

lethal willow
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pretty sick

amber oasis
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that's hardly most overcomplicated hello world

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good contender though

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I've seen a couple of "Enterprise Hello World" and "Micro service Hello world"

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those are pretty complex too πŸ˜›

lean sleet
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Hey πŸ˜ƒ I'm actually searching a Web Dev for a cool ets2 project (a french exclusivity)

Knoweldge on API, SQL... C++, C and C#
HTML, PHP, CSS can be cool

If the work is good, we can paid πŸ˜ƒ

crystal fable
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Sounds right up my ally

ancient lynx
crystal fable
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That's what Rosetta Stone is for lolz

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JK

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I don't know what I want anymore

ember canyon
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@lean sleet i can help you but i speak english, i have a great expertise in the area of web dev

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and python if it helps u wth smth

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with*

lean sleet
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@ember canyon That’s fine πŸ˜ƒ I contact you on private this afternoon

ember canyon
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ok

crystal fable
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horray for internet speeds being doubled for free!

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200/10 πŸ˜ƒ

severe kernel
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Lol me too xD

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Got 200/20 instead of 100/10 for 40€ in austria

livid hemlock
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anyone know phytom?

ember canyon
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@livid hemlock yes

main spade
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Python, yes.

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That's my bot, half in Python, half in JS

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Esinko, did the JS part

lethal willow
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Why would you have 50/50?

fair thunder
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Why not?... πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚

lethal willow
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Because it doesn't make sense?

fair thunder
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Mhm

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I was mainly jk tbh

crystal fable
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I mean because then you could do hosting from home

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I have the proper equipment

pearl badger
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oh boy .-.

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@livid hemlock what ya need with python

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i can help

crystal fable
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WTF

pearl badger
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?

crystal fable
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Why wouldn't you!!!!!!

pearl badger
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coz

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932mbps

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more reliable power and stuff

crystal fable
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That's brilliant speeds

pearl badger
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no

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thats the

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vps speed

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it would be better to offload it

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β–« Technically cheaper
β–« Quieter
β–« More reliable
β–« GWcfcThonk Better data speeds

livid hemlock
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Anyone know how to make debuger run faster on PyCharm

lean sleet
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@ancient lynx Yeah i speak French πŸ˜„

ancient lynx
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eh? wut

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That message was aimed at kirito

lean sleet
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Ohh ok πŸ˜ƒ

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Kirito can help us ?πŸ€”

pearl badger
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@livid hemlock noh

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Just make breakpoints and such

livid hemlock
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did it but still takes for ever

quick glen
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Thats how it is, welcome to development

rich flint
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Anything to do with developing takes forever to get it working right lol

quick glen
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Aspecially debugging, debuggers will only hit breakpoints as fast as you application gets to them

crystal fable
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@lean sleet what do you need help with?

lean sleet
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pm πŸ˜ƒ

main spade
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@pearl badger You're the person who makes that GWfroggyBlobWokeThink

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How did you get it so popular

pearl badger
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i made a bot

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for a thing people want

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and no other bot that did it well was known

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and to this day GWcfcThonk

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it still kinda is

crystal fable
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Express your outrage at the hypocriticism and upvote that thread!

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You can't say that you're only allowing open source to protect us, then let me ask this: Who's protecting us from you!!!!!

pearl badger
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why do people do this

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closed source tools means we cant determine if they are malacious

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@crystal fable

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open means we know what it does

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meaning its safe

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would you like a tool

crystal fable
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But my point is

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how can we trust TMP?

pearl badger
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that when you run it, turns out its a cryptolocker

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Kirito

crystal fable
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they're closed source

pearl badger
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that is different

crystal fable
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why should I have to be open when they get to stay closed

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no it's not

pearl badger
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it is

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one is

crystal fable
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it's called being a hypocrite

pearl badger
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the tools are thirdparty

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two

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tmp doesnt have malacious code

crystal fable
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how do you know

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you haven't seen their source

pearl badger
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How would you know.

crystal fable
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EXACTLY

pearl badger
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you cant say it does

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if you cant tell yourself

crystal fable
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I can

pearl badger
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the difference

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is one can be sued

crystal fable
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because I haven't seen their source

pearl badger
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and one is 3rd party

crystal fable
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they are 3rd party

pearl badger
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compared

crystal fable
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so they can also be sued

pearl badger
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im not

crystal fable
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and should be

pearl badger
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talking about that

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im talking about the tools

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you cant really sue the user

crystal fable
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either case

pearl badger
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and also

crystal fable
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they are hypocrites

pearl badger
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not rly

crystal fable
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they are

pearl badger
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how

crystal fable
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okay I'm only gonna help developers that make their apps open source

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and all my tools are gonna be closed source

pearl badger
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imagine if you made software and noone said they want to use it because its closed

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what would you do

crystal fable
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EXACTLY

pearl badger
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im asking you a question

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what would you do

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make it open source?

crystal fable
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Hell no

pearl badger
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so people can easily modify it

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kirito

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you just

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.-.

crystal fable
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TMP are hypocrites

tardy smelt
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...

pearl badger
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youre being one now

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you just said

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hell no to going open source

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but you said tmp should go open source

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❓

crystal fable
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BECAUSE they only allow open source projects

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to be posted

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publicly

pearl badger
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yes

tardy smelt
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We are doing that to protect our users. If you feel that what we are doing isn't safe no one is forcing you to use our tools.

crystal fable
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if they allowed both

pearl badger
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They decide what they want to allow

crystal fable
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then it wouldn't be an issue

pearl badger
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it would

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for the end user

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because they wont know whats in the tool

crystal fable
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but because they themselves are closed, it's called being a hypocrite

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I don't know what's in TMP

pearl badger
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for all we know it could be a cryptolocker

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Kirito

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the difference is

crystal fable
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it could be a cryptolocker

pearl badger
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one can be malacious

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and one isnt

tardy smelt
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@crystal fable did you read what I just wrote for you

pearl badger
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kirito

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use your head.

crystal fable
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I'll stick to basic logic

pearl badger
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now heres a question

crystal fable
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think what you want

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and I'll think what I want

pearl badger
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why would a mod used by thousands

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be a cryptolocker

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whereas some random person could release a tool

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that could be

crystal fable
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I did

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and I strongly disagree

tardy smelt
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If you're not happy with how the mod work. Just leave we are not forcing you to stay

pearl badger
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no one said you had to use tmp

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if you have a problem

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dont use it

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it might encrypt your files

crystal fable
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I'm not saying I'm not happy

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just saying it's being hypocritical

pearl badger
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that means

tardy smelt
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Why would it be?

pearl badger
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youre not happy

crystal fable
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Because yourselves won't post your code

pearl badger
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hes saying its hipocritical

crystal fable
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but then force everyone else to

pearl badger
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kirito

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would you like to see ets2multiplayermp

crystal fable
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who reviews your code

pearl badger
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by some chineese guy

crystal fable
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to verify it's not malicious

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or collecting my data

pearl badger
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open source = can easily be modified and copied

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kirito

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use your head

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why are you using windows its closed

crystal fable
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That's also the point of open source

tardy smelt
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If we were doing bad thing SCS would have shut us down

pearl badger
#

kirito

crystal fable
#

uhuh

pearl badger
#

are you using windows

crystal fable
#

surrrreeeee

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Only at work these days

pearl badger
#

thats closed and thats collecting your data.

crystal fable
#

My stuff is all linux

pearl badger
#

but you use that.

#

and other programs

#

that are closed

#

so why use them

crystal fable
#

why do you think ETCARS runs linux

pearl badger
#

no specific reason

crystal fable
#

it's supporting the open initiative

pearl badger
#

coz the person who made it uses linux.

crystal fable
#

anyway

#

you obviously are a sheep

pearl badger
#

no

crystal fable
#

and don't care what so ever

pearl badger
#

i have common sence

crystal fable
#

uhuh whatever

pearl badger
#

but you started the conversation GWcfcThonk

crystal fable
#

I'd just like to know who protects us from TMP

pearl badger
#

why do you use discord

#

its closed source

crystal fable
#

as you said TMP could be a cryptolocker

pearl badger
#

it might be stealing your data

#

but kirito

#

its not

tardy smelt
#

Why do you use Windows too? It's closed too

crystal fable
#

how do you know?

#

you haven't seen their source

pearl badger
#

Why are you using discord its closed

#

:<

#

windows isnt open source

#

you mean some random sdks

tardy smelt
#

Why do you use a keybaord? The keyboard company might track your key type πŸ˜‰

pearl badger
#

i mean

#

keyboards could have a keylogger

crystal fable
#

you can't 100% say you know for sure that tmp don't have a cryptlocker

#

or backdoor

pearl badger
#

and

#

why would it.

crystal fable
#

because you haven't inspected their source

#

why wouldn't it?

pearl badger
#

why would it need it.

#

im asking.

tardy smelt
#

Why would you even care? Just don't use it if you are so scared of being infected.

pearl badger
#

Breaking new: tmp launcher encrypts your game if you dont play ats for an hour

tardy smelt
#

So far more than 2M users have trusted us lol

pearl badger
#

-1

old plank
#

@crystal fable Everything has been said. You can stop now.

pearl badger
#

erm

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i said the everything GWcfcThonk

old plank
#

πŸ™Š oops

pearl badger
#

i wasnt continuing but ok GWnanamiLaceShrug

crystal fable
#

K good luck with your community.

pearl badger
north flax
#

@crystal fable When we feature tools on our forum and website, we have a responsibility for that. What measures we take to help users stay secure as well as to help developers have references to create other awesome stuff is our decision. Nothing is forcing you to advertise your tool on our forum.

#

We can not and will not risk malware and similar being featured in that section, especially when considering we have seen examples of malware being spread among users under the guise of being a "better launcher" or similar before.

ember canyon
#

hmm

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^ A far point there mate

amber oasis
#

the malware launcher was mildly amusing, cause the creator was stupid enough to be pointing the RAT to a ddns address that pointed to his home IP blobcatokhand

lethal willow
#

πŸ‘€

royal wharf
#

I love RAT's

#

Had one on my VM so I could mess with a scammer

rich flint
#

πŸ˜‚

royal wharf
#

Its always fun when you have stereo mix when talking to a scammer. coughs Christmas music

rich flint
#

πŸ˜‚

royal wharf
#

@rich flint How is your holiday going so far?

#

πŸ‘€

#

If you ever pop online that is

rich flint
#

Been good

#

:p

royal wharf
#

Ah glad to hear that @rich flint

#

πŸ˜„

amber oasis
royal wharf
#

No, but yet the channel does say Chat πŸ˜‰

fair thunder
#

πŸ˜‚

tidal zodiac
main spade
#

❀

ember canyon
#

hola krash

pearl badger
#

@tidal zodiac europe is in ats GWfroggyZoomeyes

#

Oh im retarded

#

Thats tge server name GWfroggyFacepalm

south prism
#

πŸ˜‚

main spade
#

xD

#

You tried ⭐

unkempt hamlet
unkempt hamlet
main spade
amber oasis
#

About time bootstrap ditches jquery

plucky beacon
#

Mhm

pearl badger
plucky beacon
undone plover
rich flint
#

imma try LineageOS 14.1 for my Nexus 7 2012 Wi-Fi

#

:3

#

i failed first try

#

doing good so far πŸ˜‚

#

well i was successful this time i hope

undone plover
#

no

#

try lineage os 15.1

rich flint
#

15.1?

#

i'll look at it at some point lmao

#

i rather use 14.1 as a lot of things for 15.1 are still in beta stage

undone plover
#

15.1 is android 8.1

#

not sure if your device has that rom tho

rich flint
#

it does, but very buggy and is not recommended unless you know what you're doing

#

which i never know what im doing

#

though my nexus 7 is so much faster with Android 7.1.2 than 5.1.1 But 5.1.1 was the biggest fail of android

#

plus i rather not have android 8 cos with android 7 i have this cute thing

undone plover
#

oh yeah i flashed lineage 14.1 on my sister's galaxy tab 2 and it was really buggy

#

had to wipe everything and flash stable 13.1

#

and yes 5.1.1 is baad

#

good thing im buying a new phone since my phone has no custom roms made

#

and still stuck on 5.1.1

#

btw would recommend the cats easteregg on 14.1/ android 7

rich flint
#

lol

undone plover
#

its quite fun

north flax
#

Current network status: Connected to ferry wifi.
Speedtest.net ping is 440, jitter is 320ms

#

Great :p

fair thunder
#

Ooooooh. Where you travelling to?....

pearl badger
quartz moth
#

Great ping lol

autumn pagoda
tardy smelt
#

Use boostrap

naive anvil
#

Funny, was just watching this movie featuring that character. πŸ˜‰

rich flint
#

Lmao

#

MDBootstrap ftw

main spade
#

Use Wix then copy the html...

rich flint
#

EW

fallow meadow
#

^

ember canyon
#

I hate all this websites that creates u websites and for freelancers is really bad because we lose money

#

(and other factors that we know that we meet on freelancing websites wink wink)

rich flint
#

plus a lot of free or "premium" DIY web building is just ugly, hardly any features and you dont have control with what you want. and us web devs are just losing people

#

i was doing a few websites for people, all of a sudden they said they don't need me cos they already have a site, i check and what is it? Mobirise web builder...

#

people dont realise that web builders are limited and you hardly have control... :/

plucky beacon
#

Not necessarily

#

Depends

lethal willow
#

Then that's for you to tell them why it's bad in your opinion.

undone plover
#

just download templates lol

fallow meadow
#

or make it from scratch GWqlabsFeelsComfyMan

simple coral
#

:lenny:

undone plover
#

or just dont use css kappa

fallow meadow
#

User agent stylesheet best

pulsar jungle
#

Does libcurl multi interface block ets2/ats game thread (i.e. if the game lags while making requests)?

quick glen
#

libcurl multi usually never blocks, except for some certain scenarios. (Name resolves, SOCKS proxy handshakes, file:// and telnet transfers)

#

However, you might find that some surrounding code needed to use multi blocks the thread

#

Just multi-thread it, curl is thread-safe just dont share handles across threads

ember canyon
#

@north flax Can you send me dm?

north flax
#

No, you can say what it's about here.

ember canyon
#

I sent topic in Unofficial Tools

#

Do you have any idea that when it will approve?

north flax
#

When I review it.

scarlet wolf
#

What laravel package did you use for 2FA

lethal willow
north flax
#

@scarlet wolf I can't remember the name. It's not one made for laravel, its a general one, and we implemented the stuff around it ourselves.

north flax
unkempt hamlet
#

Hm... It doesn't look much like a Fluent Design but like a Foundation

rich flint
#

Material Design is still better than Fluent xd

unkempt hamlet
#

I hope they implement Material 2.0 soon

rich flint
#

Ooo

unkempt hamlet
#

I mean, I don't think they works on it

#

I love Material 2.0 with the really cool variety of colour palettes and shapes, but I hate Material Design for Web framework for some reason...

rich flint
#

Material Design style is great, framework itself, meh

#

But MDBootstrap combines the best of both :3

unkempt hamlet
#

tbh I hate MDBootstrap too

#

It is so complicated under the hood and support is pretty nessed up

#

But there is no fully implemented Material Design framework yet...

#

Also they use free-to-use parts in their paid pro version, like Materialize dropdowns

#

Shame

ember canyon
unkempt hamlet
#

Nothing really complicated is going on, so nothing to evaluate tbh

tardy smelt
#

It's just plain HTML with Basic CSS πŸ˜›

rich flint
#

Need a better don't than default html lols

#

font*

tardy smelt
#

Look into Bootstrap and things like that. Also use PHP to add some logic to your code to make it better for uses and Javascript if you just want to do something quick :p

Javascript run on the client computer. So you can do thing base on what the client do right away.

PHP use the server to generate the code from the logic you wrote

opal arch
#

Nah, come on, guys, he just started πŸ˜›

livid hemlock
#

Gmhi

plucky beacon
#

Let’s get roightttt into the newssss

tardy smelt
#

Are you okay @plucky beacon?

plucky beacon
#

Keemstar

#

So like yanno

#

It would be rude not to

plucky beacon
#

But are you okay?

unkempt hamlet
#

πŸ€”

unkempt hamlet
#

Wake up, Github!!!

plucky beacon
#

No u

ember canyon
#

nay thou

past shuttle
#

Bootstrap is really irritating to work with

plucky beacon
#

Mehhh

rich flint
#

it is easy to work with once you get used to it and know the classes you need πŸ˜‰

unkempt hamlet
rich flint
#

lol

#

less than 30 mins till the first maintenance oof

pearl badger
#

when the 40seconds encoding to json turns to 1 second coz you used ujson GWempMoan

#

optimisation many

#

the default python json doesnt like to dump a file with 165,000 values

#

πŸ€”

unkempt hamlet
#

Finally did it

rugged copper
#

πŸŽ‰

rich flint
#

@shy swan m8, ur not part of VT-RPC anymore yet you just kick us from the discord. You left...

#

wait u banned us

#

Lasse...

#

Hypocrite you say we're childish and you pull that stunt

#

I thought u were with us, you're just one of them...

shy swan
#

Exactly. I am TruckersMP Staff wesmart

rich flint
#

Not very good TMP Staff if you act like that

undone plover
#

How so?

unkempt grotto
#

What's suspicious about it πŸ€”

undone plover
#

Yeah

unkempt grotto
#

Nothing kappa

undone plover
#

if you have the backstory kappa

unkempt grotto
undone plover
#

does it have to?

unkempt grotto
#

^

undone plover
#

its only meant to be understood by the ones that have the superior brain power to do so

rich flint
#

LASSE

#

WTF

#

You changed the cPanel password and took my own work!

#

Screw you

#

@shy swan Get here NOW

#

If i rly have to, i can take action against you

#

TMP and Legal.

shy swan
#

Please stop mentioning me. If you are calm feel free to DM me. Thanks

#

btw

#

I will delete the cpanel account in a minute. Do you want the files?

rich flint
#

Yes please

pearl badger
undone plover
#

...

drifting wasp
#

Is this shit relevant here

undone plover
#

yes

#

backseat moderating? troll

tardy smelt
#

What happen in here?

undone plover
#

It's all fixed now

#

Something going on at vtrpc

tardy smelt
#

Still threatening people legally is really bad lol

#

I hope you're having a shit tons of money at least to sue us.

undone plover
#

Not tmp

#

Something between lasse and vtrpc

tardy smelt
#

Yeah I know they banned the whole TMP team.

#

Anyway I don't want those thing to happen anymore. If you're having an issue reach out to me or create a feedback ticket and the appropriate person will look into it.

undone plover
#

Vtlog did

brazen hatch
#

Feedback is nice but how?
You can only make one a time and you guys want everything through feedback, but with that limitation that is simply not possible, especially if you have to wait more than 2 months before it is handeled than is it unusefull system

i'm out because of the same discussion in #dutch with a Game mod

kindred tendon
#

@brazen hatch It shouldn’t take 2 months to deal with a feedback and you can talk about several different issues and keep commenting on the feedback about any other issues you may have until it’s closed

rich flint
#

npm

#

why u doing this to me

#

and discord-rpc is being mean again smh

#

it was working

#

and now error 4000 invalid client id

#

loool

#

smh

tardy smelt
#

This isn’t the channel to talk about that. This is to talk about code stuff

rich flint
#

but it is node.js & npm stuff...

#

and npm 6.2.0 shows the errors like that but there's no risk :3

#

plus this chat isn't all just for code, there's other purposes for this channel too smh

quick glen
#

He might've been talking about the conversation before that πŸ˜‰

rich flint
#

Meh

undone plover
#

Yeh

#

The feedbackthing

plucky beacon
#

Hi J-M bb

tardy smelt
#

Go read 2.01 and maybe that will sync in

rich flint
#

well

#

dammit

undone plover
#

why supac

rich flint
#

cos windows decided to do that name

#

idk why tho

undone plover
#

you did

#

πŸ˜’

pearl badger
#

You can change it

undone plover
#

That breaks things tho

unkempt hamlet
#

supac stands for SupaCool? ))

plucky beacon
#

πŸ€”

rich flint
#

lol no

unkempt hamlet
plucky beacon
#

Ooooh

lethal willow
#

I installed a ligature font today, actually pretty nice to use

unkempt hamlet
#

Fire Code?

lethal willow
#

Yeah

raw notch
#

Exactly the "aspiring dev" rank stands for? Aspiring truckersmp dev?

opal arch
#

No. For everybody who develops something πŸ˜›

#

As I do πŸ˜‡

main spade
#

Look what I got set up today

raw notch
#

@opal arch but someone develop something, is not aspiring, is already a dev haha haha

opal arch
#

Nooo πŸ™ˆ

raw notch
#

Ah πŸ€”

#

confused

opal arch
#

confused, too

#

Nah, just developers here. Check the description of this channel πŸ˜›

raw notch
#

Well, im searching for suggestions to add features to trucky

pearl badger
#

whats trucky

raw notch
pearl badger
#

πŸ€”

#

Congrats on nearly getting 1k guilds on ya bot

#

GWfroggyMonkaThink i remember when i reached 1k

raw notch
#

The app reached 12k+ active devices too :)

scarlet wolf
#

You guys know that the api returns error as a string and not a bool, took me 20 mins to figure out what was messaging me up

tardy smelt
raw notch
#

@tardy smelt πŸ€” it is... Or not?

pearl badger
#

need to redo cdtracker

tardy smelt
#

Not really it look more to be a phone app on the website

rich flint
#

lol well it's not very phone friendly xd

#

πŸ˜›

plucky beacon
#

Just download the app πŸ€” lmao

tardy smelt
#

If there's a web version for desktop why would I download the app? I thought that was the use of a web application picardfacepalm

raw notch
#

@tardy smelt web version is not available to mobile device.. there is the app for that

#

Btw, in your opinion how i could improve the web app?

plucky beacon
#

Smh

#

There’s many advantages to downloading an app. It’s more convenient to hand, rather than opening a browser all the time

opal arch
#

It needs a better design for the website version. It looks like an mobile app on the desktop

#

Kinda hard to read some things on bigger screens (wider page is not good from my POV)

tardy smelt
#

Yeah what Shawn said

#

On my 27’’ screen its way too big

raw notch
#

Let me see, send a screenshot @tardy smelt

opal arch
#

What? It will not make difference if you do not have a screen with the same size

pearl badger
raw notch
#

@opal arch would see how it render on so big screen, i've a 23" and it looks as this

rich flint
#

24" here

raw notch
#

it's quite big imho, on my 23"

opal arch
#

It renders in the same size

rich flint
opal arch
#

And now imagine that on a bigger screen

rich flint
raw notch
#

but because is wide?

opal arch
#

But it should not be like that GWvictoriaNotLikeBlob

rich flint
#

container-fluid :3

opal arch
#

Hard to read anything

raw notch
#

@rich flint screen size?

rich flint
#

24"

raw notch
#

so font size is too small?

opal arch
#

Yep, remove that -fluid GWpingKanyeLUL

rich flint
#

no i was just trying to make it look like a 27"

opal arch
#

No, it is about that empty size

rich flint
opal arch
#

You have small "Calais (City)", 50cm space and then 114

raw notch
#

removing the 100% container, traffic server tabs goes on two rows

opal arch
#

Is it really that big problem?

raw notch
#

well, don't like it πŸ˜„

rich flint
#

just try and center the text

#

xd

opal arch
#

And you wanted to know what you should change GWpingKanyeLUL

#

It is your work to change it GWfroggyWeSmart

#

We told you what is wrong

#

Everything looks much better without that -fluid tbh

rich flint
opal arch
rich flint
#

tho if it was something like that

#

just

#

on one line...

raw notch
#

but vertical tabs is nice, have a sense

rich flint
#

i was thinking like the text shrinks when they're not selected

#

and when they're selected the text gets bigger and highlights with the box

raw notch
#

uhm

#

ok

raw notch
#

i hate that tabs on two rows..

#

@opal arch can you check now if with container resized it works better?

opal arch
#

I am in-game now. 😒

undone plover
#

then go out game

#

πŸ˜‰

tardy smelt
raw notch
#

@tardy smelt your monitor is too big :D but I understand that the containet 100% with that screen size is quite disturbing

opal arch
raw notch
#

@opal arch better?

opal arch
#

Yep!

raw notch
#

what's your language? interface is in english

#

guess you are czech

opal arch
#

Yes. I switched it into English for the screenshot

ember canyon
#

hy ?

#

how coming new update 1.32

#

?

restive hare
#

@ember canyon ?

undone plover
#

comes when its ready and this isn't the channel to ask

pearl badger
#

:I

raw notch
#

@pearl badger what's that?

unkempt grotto
#

I think it’s a C-D tracker he made

pearl badger
#

Yh GWseremePeepoF

raw notch
#

@pearl badger where is it?

rich flint
raw notch
#

oh... but this is awesome

#

@pearl badger do you provide api for that? i can add it to Trucky?

ember canyon
#

waw

pearl badger
#

I can make an api for it uf you want

#

What do you want the api to do

north flax
#

That graph doesn't quite look right on mobile

#

@pearl badger

#

:P

pearl badger
#

Ik :I

#

Blame canvasjs

obtuse temple
#

Hello

pearl badger
#

@north flax is there a list of all the coordinates for all the cities ets2 has or does tmp just do it dynamically

unkempt hamlet
#

wdym?

tardy smelt
#

It might be on Krash API

unkempt hamlet
#

It is just tuned to fit map coordinates, it is relative to map.

raw notch
#

@unkempt hamlet as far i know, these coordinates can be used to resolve user position in tmp (using ets2map api coordinates), i think tmp coordinates are provided directly from telemetry channels

pearl badger
#

:I

#

tho

#

how will it know how big of an area to allow before it recognises they should be recognised as being in the city

raw notch
#

you can classify cities by 3 tier: small medium and big and calculate 3 different area size

lilac patio
#

RIP

#

means i have to recreate it

#

:/

undone plover
#

And why send that here

drifting wasp
#

Why not just get the licenses and host it yourself

main spade
#

Guys!

#

I got a job as a bot developer!

#

:D

plucky beacon
#

Congrats!

fervent axle
#

congrats MrBlob πŸŽ‰

pearl badger
#

wdym

main spade
#

I get paid for making bots for people

#

@fickle wharf's company.

fickle wharf
#

He does πŸ˜›

main spade
#

I haven't got anyone wanting one yet though :(

lilac patio
#

congraz @main spade but for me im doign part time with Dev team mine and get our community bot up and going again but meh i need recode everything now because all code i had last time broken source codes of mine

#

at lest you get payed and for me i get payed for getting people enjoy bot mine

#

and support my community so meh i need get real job as Dev

main spade
#

Aha yeah

#

I develop my own bot in my free time and all the money I get will go into that bot

lilac patio
#

nice

#

i make my own bot do stuff needs do like Music with intergrated Tuns Game APIS

#

then pull out stats of user/players and stuff like mixer/twitch callouts and because i love warframe game but i can inbed warframe API like in secunds

main spade
#

Aha nice

#

That's me

unkempt hamlet
main spade
lilac patio
#

and coding my skills i can do now

tardy smelt
#

You're coding your skills? wondering

lilac patio
#

lel

#

well never seen how i make that Kappa

#

even YT side was pain bum because my friend never finished his Project i was gonna use and him stoped using YT bots

#

so im goning plan to recode all them be part of my community aka EXPG community bot with Streamers data

main spade
#

Last Commit: 5 months ago...

#

Lol

lilac patio
#

mean mine or other 1?

main spade
#

Yours

lilac patio
#

oh

#

xD

main spade
#

Lol

#

I mean I'm the same lol

lilac patio
#

i havent updated bot that much when him aka my friend stoped make YT bot side

main spade
#

I would show you might github thing but I have it on a private repo

unkempt hamlet
raw notch
#

good old times

opal arch
#

My summer in one image sad

tardy smelt
#

But you got smarter Shawn πŸ˜›

fair thunder
#

xD

unkempt hamlet
pearl badger
#

delete this

unkempt hamlet
#

why?

opal arch
#

Or $this->delete() kappa

pearl badger
#

Or self.delete() because python is superior to javascript

#

or jsut del self GWfroggyBlobThonk

quick glen
#

rm -rf * plz

unkempt hamlet
pearl badger
#

called it

main spade
#

@pearl badger I agree

#

ctx.message.delete()

tardy smelt
#

sudo rm -rf /* is better πŸ˜›

stray raptor
#

RIP System

tardy smelt
#

I thought that was the goal kattroll

cinder spear
#

gotta remember --no-preserve-root

quick glen
#

Nah man

#

Thats what you need

main spade
#

I watched the whole thjng

#

Thin*

#

Thing*

#

It's now 1:15AM

lilac patio
#

well for me im going give up T4LFM radio now at lest i tryed get things going there but now rename radio to EXPGRadio aka Official to my community aka EXPG now

#

so i got lot do get things going now :/

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but i be working on that soon and get people from ETS2 creator public radio if i can or not

pearl badger
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cool