programming

[lilac patio]

https://github.com/ChisdealHD/TalentRecordzBot

https://github.com/ChisdealHD/Multiplatformbot

i only added in is steam bot what not allowed get publicly because got tuns Data of my StewamBOt

like API and stuff

[rich flint]

https://i.imgur.com/PxSKdxj.png

[amber oasis]

they finally added that as a context menu now? noice

[rich flint]

I'm using the 'Slow' insider build

Worst part is... https://i.imgur.com/e4eaG5J.png

[lilac patio]

dont see dat

[rich flint]

I have latest insider build that's why

[lilac patio]

hmm

[rich flint]

Also just notice the colour

Dark

[lilac patio]

i thught i was on latest

[rich flint]

Why what build you on?

https://i.imgur.com/difQoSA.png

[lilac patio]

wut

im still on there even was installing before

[rich flint]

Ahh you got an older build

[lilac patio]

🤦 Pc bugged

wut

[rich flint]

https://i.imgur.com/yHNI4Bs.png

Gotta be an insider first 😉

[rich flint]

that's why

Though the insider build shows an ugly watermark on desktop unless you use the watermark removal tool

I had no choice but to use the insider build as my pc fails with every update until i used the insider build

[lilac patio]

i moved that version over 3 years and in update did say that version you have

but sounds like didnt update self

@rich flint

[rich flint]

hmm

Well you have latest build but not the insider build i have because of your settings, however i don't recommend this build yet as it is very weird with file explorer

[lilac patio]

meh

well gessing with bugs fix there first

plus i just love how much ram i got too 😛

but bad GPU and CPU thow

[rich flint]

16GB right here

https://i.imgur.com/DyaSkr1.png

[lilac patio]

lel

[rich flint]

https://i.imgur.com/rZUQ1lf.png

[rich flint]

sorry but...

[lilac patio]

look man

but much is meh

wait for update get sorted

[rich flint]

https://i.imgur.com/0UolwV0.png

[lilac patio]

xD

well when i get £800

im getitng 1050ti and i5 CPU pc

[rich flint]

i only paid £250 for my card and it was from Amazon

Also https://i.imgur.com/H5WIZyq.png

My other internal HDD isn't connected or showing up 🤔

[lilac patio]

https://www.amazon.co.uk/ADMI-Graphics-1600MHz-Corsair-Bitfenix/dp/B01GTUWUPC/ref=sr_1_1?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1523632463&sr=1-1&keywords=pc&refinements=p_n_feature_browse-bin%3A1481777031%2Cp_n_feature_keywords_four_browse-bin%3A6581886031&th=1

[rich flint]

Crap the sata cable isn't connected to it

[lilac patio]

i was plannign get this

and change my 8gb ram on there with my 16gb ram

[tranquil mirage]

Ew amd

[small ermine]

😂

[rich flint]

well https://i.imgur.com/TkyNvbr.png

Making a project out of existing code does not want to work today

[tranquil mirage]

What's this? 🤔

[small ermine]

xD

Looks like VS

[opal arch]

Like crashing VS ...

[small ermine]

😂

[quick glen]

Oi oi, I feel someone is trying to use meh open-source code?

[small ermine]

👀

Must be 😛

[rich flint]

Yep

It went horribly wrong

just does that everytime

I did VS C++ and Windows Application thing

now it's working

[small ermine]

😂

[pearl badger]

@rich flint what is a cooling fan

[lilac patio]

😄

[crystal fable]

Lol

What is cold?

Been running servers in my room with a broken ac unit

Horray when outside is cooler than inside!

[lilac patio]

xD

well lucky you because my room very hot because running like 2 servers and 1 gaming PC

[crystal fable]

Lol

90F when outside is 80F

[lilac patio]

well i just crack a window open for few minutes and now bloodying cold now xD like omg change mind

[crystal fable]

So does anyone want to TRY the webhooks build of ETCARS?

[glossy dawn]

I'm pretty used to the 27c temp in room from my server, that's in the uk. When it is normally around 17c outside.

Atleast i don't have to pay for heating :/

[left fern]

27°????

how can you sleep in that heat??

[glossy dawn]

I will just say, my windows are never closed lol

[pearl badger]

@left fern 27c is room temperature :L

well

23 - 25 is

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[lilac patio]

lel

well my room easy get hot

all takes get Ps4, 3 PCs running and room be hot in secunds :/

[lethal willow]

My room is always warm. Fridge, TV, 3 monitors and PC

[pearl badger]

https://i.imgur.com/UGFRfF2.png tbh its not that bad....

:I

toasty

[pearl badger]

560

[lilac patio]

yep

but when i get £600 then gonna stright to 1050ti and i5 quard core pc

[crystal fable]

Or get this...

Finished upgrading my rack

Built and then cabled and added 48 port gigabit managed switches

Soo much faster than my managed cisco switch

[lilac patio]

lel

good idea, but i could use my Pc as toaster 😄

because how much heat im getting

[crystal fable]

If I don't have my AC unit running it easily hits 90F

in a matter of an hour-2

[fair thunder]

Noice

[pearl badger]

Any way to remove the black border on users 🤔

on minimap

and just have a solid circle

:L

[small ermine]

Yeah

Choose black as the color😉

[pulsar jungle]

There's still 1% using PHP 5.4 https://seld.be/notes/php-versions-stats-2018-1-edition

[lilac patio]

i normaly use PHP 7.1

for API side

but PHP 5.3 for site side

[unkempt hamlet]

https://github.com/beaufortfrancois/picture-in-picture-chrome-extension

[lilac patio]

hold on

how can i make stats pull out Chrome extections

aka like domain.com/extections/index.html

[lethal willow]

I'm not sure what you mean?

[lilac patio]

somethign like this

https://github.com/beaufortfrancois/picture-in-picture-chrome-extension

but as like external link reader

i gonna look up

but much is i was gonna make API from that

[rich flint]

doesn't work for me

[small ermine]

I hate MailChimp

[fair thunder]

We all do

[small ermine]

I mean, on what planet would you randomly turn an all-lowercase email address into THAT

😩

[fair thunder]

Mhm

It’s full on bs

[small ermine]

It had capitals originally

But I deleted all the contacts

Added them back, and these ones that had capitals STILL HAS CAPITALS!

[fair thunder]

That’s bs. Exactly why I don’t use mail chimp anymore

[lilac patio]

well dont use mailchimp

use other 1 hold on i pull name

https://onesignal.com/ i use this @small ermine

but as chrome aka browser extection

[quick glen]

You do know that typicaly emails do not care about upper/lower case

[small ermine]

Yeah

But it's neat

😂

[rich flint]

But there's no point

[small ermine]

And doesn't complain about converting them to lower case before md5-ing them to get the member id

😛

[rich flint]

Lol i still have an original @googlemail.com email

[small ermine]

XD same

[quick glen]

fun thing about gmail is that it does not even care about periods. So [e-mail] and [e-mail] are the same to it.

[crystal fable]

Yup

[small ermine]

Whaa

Really??

😮

[cinder spear]

Messages sent to @gmail.com and @googlemail.com are the same.

Some countries use @googlemail.com instead, but messages sent to the address will go to the same place.

it's just an alias

you can use whichever you want

[e-mail] and [e-mail] are the same inbox

[small ermine]

👌

[lilac patio]

omg my internet so bloodying bad

lel FTP timed me out

[small ermine]

😂

Does that say 5HOURS??

[shy swan]

That’s why WinSCP is not good. Use FileZilla

[small ermine]

😂

[lilac patio]

xD

[rich flint]

New version, hooray... https://github.com/VirtualTruckerRPC/Virtual-Trucker-Rich-Presence/releases/tag/2.1.2

[small ermine]

🎉

[opal arch]

Working on a bot useful for those little TMP communities 😛

[pearl badger]

i used to have one 🤔

[left fern]

i gave up on WiFi for now... Ethernet works just fine :D

gonna add some basic sensors later on to display on the website

[pearl badger]

?

[sterile sorrel]

best cable management

[crystal fable]

Gg

[sweet hornet]

I've just found that in the app I have to work on

[lethal willow]

bad

[opal arch]

PDO and then that ...

[cinder spear]

doubt that needs to be static either

and pretty much none of those names are good

[sweet hornet]

The names are good, the main problem is the '".$codeP."'"

[cinder spear]

looking at the code, I have no idea what any of them stand for, except $pdo, and even then I can't tell what database connection that's for

$value => what value? all variables have a value

[amber oasis]

"select_clp" is a terrible name as well

and a table called "CODE_PROD" is a pretty terrible field name, CLP_PHYTO table, doesn't say anything about what it contains

step one to better code: descriptive names

The cost of giving those things better names are essentially approaching 0

[pearl badger]

table_that_stores_peoples_identification_numbers

[cinder spear]

or just people

[amber oasis]

tblPpl

90's called and wants their table names back

[small ermine]

😂

[pearl badger]

90's called they want their cvs database back

[unkempt hamlet]

WUT

[small ermine]

😂

just reply back duefgeab duaf jjjk dlfan iadn

😉

[unkempt hamlet]

done))))))

[rich flint]

i got an email like that

i was like

"Thanks for contacting SgtBreadStick support, your ticket is invalid. Please try again"

I haven't had a reply in 2 months

😆

[small ermine]

😂

[north flax]

Still a better support service than Steam support

I have needed to contact steam support once. Luckily, I resolved the issue otherwise, because their system closed my ticket for being too old before they responded

[left fern]

Steam support got back to me within one or two days, that's literally the shortest reaction time I ever had. Interesting that it varies so much

[amber oasis]

I've had support tickets that responded so fast I thought it was a "thank you for contacting support"mail

[lethal willow]

huh?

[pearl badger]

wot

[unkempt hamlet]

👀

[opal arch]

No

[rich flint]

I am very surprised that it is possible to run Windows 10 on a Raspberry Pi 3

The full desktop version too

Though the SD Card drivers slow it down a lot

They said it wouldn't fit on a 16GB SD Card, i cut it close tho...

[crystal fable]

lol

it's interesting that it DOES work

[rich flint]

ikr

[crystal fable]

I thought they abandoned windows 10 for pi

[rich flint]

that was Windows IoT Core 😂

[crystal fable]

but......

[rich flint]

But ye

[crystal fable]

win 10 on a pi

,,,

ew....

[rich flint]

Windows 10 is going to work for Snapdragons which are ARM CPUs but someone has got it to work on a Broadcom ARMv8 CPU. Which is surprising. Though it is a lot slower than you'd think, due to drivers not as efficient and not all drivers are on it, it is very slow (around 15mins to boot Win10 on an average SD card)

But i got a high speed SD Card that should work on RPi nicely

and UEFI works too

I mean, it's experimental and very buggy. But when Windows 10 fully supports RPi it should be a LOT better

i mean the RPi 3B+ is out and faster and better too

it takes around 2-4 hours depending on your computer to set it up for the RPi

omg it's booting and installing

[crystal fable]

good grief

[rich flint]

i actually did something right for once 😂

[crystal fable]

too much time

[rich flint]

i was bored so i tried it

[crystal fable]

I'm thinking of setting up a switch lab to create electronic sounds

[rich flint]

it has taken me less than 2 hours to setup cos i have fast internet and a good(ish) pc

[crystal fable]

run so many network cables between switches that you can get a pc to record all the interference as a sound

[rich flint]

wow it is much faster than the guy doing tutorial

looooooooool

[crystal fable]

it's basically the digital version of holding a microphone next to a speaker

[rich flint]

i hear my phone transmitting to Mobile data or stuff

so i have to move it away from my pc lmao

[crystal fable]

I have all this beautiful equipment but can't do anything with it

b/c my actual internet speeds are not fast enough

[rich flint]

😕

at least you haven't got a Cat2 ethernet cable like me

[crystal fable]

lol

[rich flint]

yes i have cat2

i am getting cat7 very shortly tho :3

[crystal fable]

I live 300ft from a highway that has a backbone fiber line

and they won't trunk off of it

[rich flint]

ouch

i live less than 200 metres from fibre boxes

but the wires to my house are that rly old copper cable

[crystal fable]

it literally has enough bandwidth to support hundreds of thousands of fiber connections

[rich flint]

they still use internet from telegraph poles

woah

[crystal fable]

it's a major backbone line

that runs through the whole country

but nooooooo

[rich flint]

did you contact them about it?

[crystal fable]

yes

they said no

and then tried to tell me that it didn't exist

even though it was on their public map

[rich flint]

lol

[crystal fable]

the person told me 'Good luck with that.' and then laughed histarically

(when I asked for more than 10 up)

[rich flint]

keep calling them

and they will give in

it worked for my family

[crystal fable]

they just doubled our speeds for free ~5 months ago

that and I'm in an apartment complex

so they'd have to run it for everybuilding and every room

which complicates things

[rich flint]

just got a bluescreen, now the next time i boot i should be able to open cmd and stuff

[crystal fable]

but hey, I wouldn't mind a cable running up the side of the building through my wall and into my room

[rich flint]

lol

[crystal fable]

if it means I get 250/250

I'll do it

[rich flint]

oof

i spammed shift+f10 to try and get CMD to show up on rpi

[crystal fable]

even the latest fiber provider is only offering 20 up

https://gyazo.com/5e80956433d192d315afbe9f3c096079

I can get 1 gigabit down

but it only comes with 20 up

wtf

[rich flint]

pff

should be same for both

[crystal fable]

I want 150/150 damn it

[rich flint]

or at least 100Mbps up

[crystal fable]

yh

so as soon as I graduate

and get some cash reserves

[rich flint]

OW

[crystal fable]

I'm building a house

and it's gonna have fiber

[rich flint]

i touched a very hot SD card

woah

[crystal fable]

if I have to pay 30kl for the cable run

and sign a 5-year contract

cause I'm sick of this shit

[rich flint]

ur deffo rich lols

[crystal fable]

no

I'm actually broke

[rich flint]

oh, rip

[crystal fable]

but, I WILL have my technology

if I have to start my own ISP

I will

I'll cut the red tape

[rich flint]

O.o

[crystal fable]

and anyone who tries to sue me

I'll go public

and rally my community

and expose these bastards for what they do

so you want to be an ISP that has better packages? faster speeds? more fairness to the customers?

here's a lawsuit

all the big ISPs basically use phony lawsuits to run every other business into the ground financially in legal fees

so that they can't get up and running

what needs to happen is there need to be injunctions filed against these ISPs to stop them from doing that

so that the newer, cheaper, better, faster, smaller ISPs actually get a chance

[rich flint]

Look at Virgin Media, all of a sudden they can have actual fibre from government while all the other ISPs get rejected by the government

Isn't that suspicious af?

[crystal fable]

meh

it's politics

you have to kiss someone's ass to make something happen

[rich flint]

or just have some backhand talk to the government

[crystal fable]

not even that can help

b/c like I said

all the big ISPs will just file lawsuit after lawsuit

until you spend all your money fighting them

[rich flint]

ye

[crystal fable]

and then have no more money to spend on the equipment, services, tools, maintenance, etc...

hence why there need to be injunctions filed

that stop the ISPs from doing that

like you get 1 lawsuit

end

doesnt matter if there's more you want to file

you only get 1

that way they won't be able to just keep filing and filing and filing

[rich flint]

:/

i am having major speed issues rn

[crystal fable]

I'm not getting AT&T tho

Plus Taxes. For 12mos. 12 mo agmt req'd. Incl 1TB data/mo. $10 chrg for each add'l 50GB (up to $100/mo.)†

[rich flint]

AT&T? They rip you off

[crystal fable]

$10 for each additional 50GB???!!!

Fuck that

They can kiss my hairy ass

[rich flint]

wait extra $10...

i knew they were bad but not that bad omg

[crystal fable]

so 1TB + 500GB = $500 extra

[rich flint]

well

[crystal fable]

NO

there is no well

it's internet

not satellite

it doesn't cost them shit

to allow that data through

[rich flint]

even hyperoptic is cheaper

[crystal fable]

If I went to my city

and found the people that actually own the switch boxes

I could get a hookup for pennies per gb

and bypass the jackass excuse of ISPs

but the equipment needed to run that

is extremely specific and expensive

that's why google fiber failed

[rich flint]

https://i.imgur.com/PcRKe9A.png woah, this is cheap for the speeds. My parents pay £66 for not even 50mbps...

[crystal fable]

because cities wouldn't allow them to bypass the existing isps

[rich flint]

ok i regret saying 50mbps... https://i.imgur.com/BReTuCS.png

[crystal fable]

lol

my speeds are 100/10

[rich flint]

and ur complaining 😐

[crystal fable]

the upload

[rich flint]

i'm not even getting a megabit for flip sakes

[crystal fable]

I'd rather have 25/25

or 25/75

[rich flint]

i'd rather have any speed at all tbf

[crystal fable]

or 50/50

[rich flint]

anything better than now

flipping 0.10mbps

[crystal fable]

https://gyazo.com/c8e6cc82fbbe540ad57ba244c7f5ac19

[rich flint]

no wonder it's taking 30 mins to download 56mb

[crystal fable]

I've had to work under 0.05

[rich flint]

brb imma throw my router out the window...

[crystal fable]

and make apps that send photos attached to emails under that

99% of the emails failed to send

because of the slow speed

[rich flint]

speedtest is failing to run

wtaf

[crystal fable]

lol have fun

did you reboot your router?

[rich flint]

yep

[crystal fable]

https://www.cnet.com/how-to/the-fbi-says-you-should-reboot-your-router-should-you-explainer/

modem?

[rich flint]

link speed is 100mbps

[crystal fable]

that doesn't mean shit

[rich flint]

but actual internet speed is... 0.07mbps

so it isn't my pc

[crystal fable]

link speed is the speed of the adapter

[rich flint]

ye ik

[crystal fable]

i.e. internal

the problem is either the router or modem

[rich flint]

i think my cat2 ethernet is giving out now

[crystal fable]

it also depends on what speeds your parents pay for

[rich flint]

we're meant to get 78mbps down and 20mbps up

[crystal fable]

also cat2 isn't gonna support more than 10/10

[rich flint]

it's been doing 50mbps all day

[crystal fable]

hmmmmmmm

[rich flint]

only 4 wires to ethernet

no 8 wires

just 4

[crystal fable]

windows updates?

[rich flint]

nope

[crystal fable]

could do it

[rich flint]

my insider updates are paused

[crystal fable]

yh but normal updates

[rich flint]

disabled

[crystal fable]

sure they didn't get re-enabled silently?

[rich flint]

i disabled it through services and stuff

it's still disabled

[crystal fable]

hmmm

modem reboot?

[rich flint]

modem?

[crystal fable]

the box the ISP owns

[rich flint]

erm

[crystal fable]

unless you have a modem/router combo

[rich flint]

we don't have a modem

just a router

[crystal fable]

uhhhhhh

where does the line for the internet go to

[rich flint]

we haven't used a modem in... well since before i was born

[crystal fable]

coax

(copper)

where does that line go plug into

[rich flint]

it goes through the wall into an microfilter which splits phone line and ADSL cables, then goes directly to router

[crystal fable]

as ethernet?

or rj-11

[rich flint]

rj-11

we have this

[crystal fable]

omg ewwwww

[rich flint]

which then goes to this

4 ethernet ports and one ADSL port

[crystal fable]

uhhhh

that's really sucky

[rich flint]

that's normal for UK internet and phones...

all of them have that system i think

[crystal fable]

welp can't help you on that

[rich flint]

waaait

you use modems?

[crystal fable]

yh

nearly everyone in the states does

it's a copper(coax) line

[rich flint]

bit old tech isn't it?

[crystal fable]

not really

it goes beyond that microfilter

since the copper line carries internet and tv

[rich flint]

we only use Modems if it's Dial-up

[crystal fable]

yh dial-up is still around in the states

luckily 7/10 it is not

[rich flint]

we have separate cables for internet and tv

[crystal fable]

yh ours is in 1

that copper line is setup for specific frequencies

[rich flint]

that is deffo weird

[crystal fable]

so each tv station uses a 60hz band of frequencies

on that copper line

[rich flint]

we have satellite tv tbh, we used to have cable (Virgin Media)

[crystal fable]

and there's a fixed set of frequencies supported

so 80-90% of the frequency bandwidth goes to tv

the remaining 10-20% is for the internet

[rich flint]

wow i didn't expect US to have that much of a different system...

[crystal fable]

we get faster speeds for the coax by combining upstream and downstream channels(channel bonding)

but ISPs won't combine upstream channels due to the way the signals work

for a modem to reach back to the ISP/switch box, it takes a lot more power

[rich flint]

ahh

[crystal fable]

because it's screaming over a crowd of other boxes

on the same lines

[rich flint]

our wires go underground and then go up one of these poles

which then the wires go to the roof and back down

[crystal fable]

yh so do ours

but ours are 1 line, copper

[rich flint]

we have just 1 wire for phone and broadband

[crystal fable]

usually

the problem is that ISPs don't want to pay to replace it with fiber

[rich flint]

but cable tv here is seperate wires but all underground

[crystal fable]

since it costs ~$500-1000 per foot

[rich flint]

i dont think our wire is copper, we have this silver type wire

[crystal fable]

just for the cable

[rich flint]

oof

[crystal fable]

that doesn't include construction permits

and cost of labor

[rich flint]

it's copper underground but then silver wire from telepgraph pole to house

[crystal fable]

and cost of permits from each city that owns the lines

that's where the real problem is

[rich flint]

i think all our wires underground are fibre but telegraph pole wires are copper

[crystal fable]

the owners in the city don't want competition

because that drives pricing down

[rich flint]

all about money tbh

[crystal fable]

it is

[rich flint]

nevermind customers

[crystal fable]

and it's gay af

[rich flint]

well i'd say worse but it's TMP discord 😂

[crystal fable]

https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2015/11/how-a-group-of-neighbors-created-their-own-internet-service/

basically I want to do that

bypass the assholes completely

[rich flint]

if only i could do that here

but you can't 😂

i can create dial-up service, but that's about it

but even then it's a pain

those people are deffo, ugh i can't think of the word for it

erm

it's like a word for not giving up and sorta like resilience

it'll be in my head at the worst time

always is

Chromium OS (Flint OS) is epic

very good for what it is

[crystal fable]

lol

someone needs to make an OS that can run Mac, Linux and windows binaries

free, open source

#shutdownAppleMicrosoft

[half ermine]

#SteamOS.

[lilac patio]

this doesnt make sense

does anyone find way i can exicute this for example

because i was gonna use IFFTT for TruckersMP and my APIs

but problem is im doing this as alexia skills

and i cant find way pull Json data out

[lethal willow]

@lilac patio What do you mean execute this? You want to pull the data from the URL?

[rich flint]

I did it!

I got Windows 10 to successfully boot on an RPi 3

[small ermine]

😄

🎉

[crystal fable]

slow clap good job TMP

#vt-rpc

[lilac patio]

@lethal willow was just my API bug and i cant push out on Alexa or Cortnana partly

so i gonna leave it few days till i work on it

[rich flint]

😛 https://github.com/VirtualTruckerRPC/Virtual-Trucker-Rich-Presence/releases/tag/2.2.0

New update

[crystal fable]

😋

[rich flint]

It runs over TruckersMP's one too

So no settings and messing around

well it's supposed to

aaand it isn't

fudge

it should go over TMP's. But it doesn't

[small ermine]

TMP supreme

[rich flint]

uh, did truckersmp one seriously overlap the VT-RPC one

[small ermine]

[rich flint]

ffs

because the tmp process started after VT-RPC launched, god dammit

i need to make VT-RPC restart after TMP login screen (SDK dialog closed) but not continuously restart

ugh js is annoying but this is next level

[small ermine]

[pearl badger]

https://i.imgur.com/O1eBKKZ.png @rich flint

[rich flint]

did you download the source code...

[pearl badger]

yes

[rich flint]

🤦

C'mon github

it's probs ur antivirus

cos it has no viruses

https://www.virustotal.com/#/file/768c8a2e846deb3d9f8dcce413b95009cb4c8ce60833d1ce4b339d11ea6c1b04/

[glossy dawn]

yeahyeah

[north flax]

Looks like MS might be acquiring GitHub

[rich flint]

just great

now they're gonna be spying on our github stuff

😐

and then ads

and then all sorts that ms force ya to do

[crystal fable]

L

Gitlab ftw

[amber oasis]

o.O

What MS has aquired in recent years haven't been messed with too much though

that said, I wonder what they'll do with VS TFS and hosted VS TFS then

since Github already have equivilents for that

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-06-03/microsoft-is-said-to-have-agreed-to-acquire-coding-site-github

So we'll know for sure later today, and what the aquisition cost will be

[rich flint]

they messed with minecraft too much tho

[pearl badger]

[sterile sorrel]

Where can i modify the Rich Presence of Truckers MP ? I didnt search, i will search After

[north flax]

You can't, it's a part of the client.

You can disable it in the mp settings

[crystal fable]

You can modify the vt-rpc project

You have to go to discord and select vt-rpc

(nodejs) instead of truckersmp

Then you can use vt-rpc

Otherwise you can make your own discord rpc bot but you'll need to make the assets

[rich flint]

im failing with my macro key rn

[crystal fable]

@amber oasis any updates on the GitHub deal?

[rich flint]

it keeps sending this
https://github.com/NCETUALTruckerRPC/Virtual-Trucker-Rich-Presence

[crystal fable]

Lol

Gg

[rich flint]

https://github.com/VirtualTruckerRPC/Virtual-Trucker-Rich-Presence

delays between characters is a good idea

[crystal fable]

Yeah

Ways

Always

[rich flint]

https://i.imgur.com/o9114iD.png

rip github 2018

[crystal fable]

Oh god

Rip

[rich flint]

https://i.imgur.com/s7mr4hh.png

just shows up

[shy swan]

https://blogs.microsoft.com/blog/2018/06/04/microsoft-github-empowering-developers/

[crystal fable]

I'm setting up a self hosted gitlab

Not gonna touch any of Microsoft's stuff

Rip GitHub

[rich flint]

Microsoft + Github = Adverts, pay to do things all the time, etc...

[shy swan]

= Minecraft

[crystal fable]

Not to mentionvnow we'll pay for repos

[rich flint]

HAHA

[crystal fable]

And commits

And each byte of data

[shy swan]

[rich flint]

https://blog.github.com/2018-06-04-github-microsoft/

[crystal fable]

Like I said I'm moving to gitlab

More like a bald future

[rich flint]

Just wait for MS to get Gitlab too

[crystal fable]

They can't

It's self howted

Hosted

If you host it yourself

[rich flint]

ahh

[crystal fable]

They have zero authority

And it won't force install updates

[rich flint]

https://i.imgur.com/TTXIpZ2.png

[crystal fable]

Yup

With good reason

[rich flint]

https://i.imgur.com/Ot8q10s.png

[crystal fable]

OMG lol yaaasssss

[rich flint]

https://i.imgur.com/oi0qak3.png

Rpi 2

I have RPi 3 but there's not much of a difference with the OS lols

Wow gitlab actually looks rly good

[crystal fable]

Yeah

I've been having ETCARS on iy

It*

[rich flint]

https://i.imgur.com/KLJeOme.png

[crystal fable]

gitlab.com/jammerxd/ETCARS

I can host it myself and it's all the ultimate features

Plus my own domain

So gitlab.menzelstudios.com

[rich flint]

holy crap

why shouldn't i do that with vt-rpc

[north flax]

Gitlab is a bit resource intensive btw. Not the worst, but a bit

[crystal fable]

I know

But I own the server hardware

[north flax]

You can also look at alternatives like gogs, gitea, etc. if you want self hosted.

[rich flint]

I own an RPi...

😂

[crystal fable]

Lol that's not nearly enough

Otherwise I can throw it on to my vps

[rich flint]

RPi 3 Overclocked to 1.2GHz

[crystal fable]

But due to the resource intensiveness

The upload link I have is shitty af

I get 10 up

But I'd cut it in half for my gitlab instance

Or I can host it on my vps

But that requires me to install gitlab

[north flax]

Aww. I decided to mirror my repos to gitlab, as a backup, but their import script failed (probably due to the traffic spike)

[crystal fable]

And last time I did that I couldn't uninstall it without formatting the os

Yeah

Might be something I do when I go home today

Can you link me that script @north flax

[north flax]

It's official on the website

[rich flint]

hmm

i am using win10 rn

[north flax]

They have a github import tool

[crystal fable]

Gitlab?

[rich flint]

and a windows 7 theme appeared for one of my programs

[crystal fable]

Ok cool

[rich flint]

O.o

[crystal fable]

Lol

Also @north flax do you have anyone on a Mac?

[rich flint]

oof, going from windows to linux after such a long time of not using linux is weird

[crystal fable]

Lol

I triple bioy

Boot

[north flax]

Nope

[crystal fable]

Windows 7, windows 10 and Ubuntu(material theme)

Damn

I've got ETCARS built for Mac but don't actually own one that can game

Damn

[north flax]

It amuses me to see gitlab struggle due to load atm :p

[lethal willow]

I remember the big database issue they had a few months ago

[north flax]

Wasn't it a year or so?

Someone accidentally deleted prod. It can happen

[lethal willow]

can't remember exactly, but yeah that's the one

ah yeah, jan 2017

https://about.gitlab.com/2017/02/10/postmortem-of-database-outage-of-january-31/

[small ermine]

0.o

[crystal fable]

Well in either case I've been saying it for 3 years that gitlab was gonna be better

They don't charge for silly things

[small ermine]

Even though someone accidentally deleted stuff

[crystal fable]

Yes

Free private repos for a start

[lethal willow]

That's the only reason I used GitLab tbh

[crystal fable]

But now it's also because it's not owned by microshit

[small ermine]

😂

[amber oasis]

Prior to the db nuke, they had a long string of NFS issues on gitlab.com, when It ruined a TMP build, was the straw that broke the camel's back

hence why TMP has self-hosted gitlab

[crystal fable]

Lol

[rich flint]

gg

[crystal fable]

I want to setup nightly builds for my stuff but too many dependencies

[rich flint]

rip

what about bi-nightly?

every 2 nights or something

[crystal fable]

Any automated build isn't gonna work

[rich flint]

rip

[crystal fable]

I have to be signed in on steam

To download one of em

[rich flint]

ahh

this is gonna be a while... https://i.imgur.com/DzXZ77t.png

[crystal fable]

Steams sdk(steamworks)

Which is how TMP and ETCARS know which steam account and dlc are available, installed, and purchased

[rich flint]

ahh

[crystal fable]

We load steams sdk

[amber oasis]

How can you have too many dependencies?

It's not like gitlab CI has any hard limits on that

[crystal fable]

Need to sign in to download the steamworks sdk

Can't do it without signing in

And can't host the sdk on another site or redistribute it, it's against the developer agreement

Also need boost

Openssl

cURL

[amber oasis]

Nither of which are any issues

[crystal fable]

I've always had issues with cURL and openssl

[amber oasis]

I don't see how any of it would be a blocker

[crystal fable]

How do I sign in to steam then download the sdk automatically

From batch srcipt

Or cli

[amber oasis]

steamworks would be the largest, but you can store that as a private artifact, other than that, I'm sure others have done it before you

Poke Garry Newman, he's worked with Steamworks quite a bit and I know Facepunch does CI

[cinder spear]

if you don't need/use CI, gitea.io

[crystal fable]

I'd love to get an automatic build/compile with all dependencies

The other thing is the compile time flags

[cinder spear]

you can still build CI for it by using webhooks and the API, but it's a bit of effort

[crystal fable]

Can't use the stock packages due to the threading flags

G++ and VS complain

[amber oasis]

none are huge issues

Steamworks is the only one I can see being a minor issue, but even that I'd be able to solve

Worst case, you'd host a teamcity instance and provide the steamworks sdk as a pre-made artifact for example

[crystal fable]

Hmmmmm

[sweet hornet]

One question, do you use a GUI Git tool (if so wich one) ?

[amber oasis]

If you ought to use a gui tool, look at git kraken

Most others hide away things that more often than not is necessary to work with git

[north flax]

I've worked with sourcetree, and that works alright. Haven't used it in a few years though.

[amber oasis]

Last time I looked at sourcetree, it was a train wreck in my eyes

then again, I am a terminal cat

[north flax]

I also prefer the terminal :p

[rich flint]

you haven't seen a train wreck if you haven't seen me with terminals...

😂

[amber oasis]

I'd just give you only the terminal then

if you have no other options, you'll become way better at it

[rich flint]

lols

i still am gonna learn how to do flipping vs studio

[amber oasis]

I'm not joking, artificially limit yourself to only using terminal versions of applications

[sweet hornet]

I am currently using Git kraken but as it has some restrictions in the free version I was thinking of changing

[rich flint]

well i wont be using github anymore so no more github desktop

[amber oasis]

learn vim, or emacs, learn Git, learn man, etc.

[north flax]

If you're a student you can get a full git kraken licence for free

[rich flint]

I'm only 14 tbh

[north flax]

But yeah, use the terminal, best way of learning it :p

[amber oasis]

what limitation is stopping you from using kraken?

o.O

[sweet hornet]

The fact I know I'm limited

[rich flint]

downloading :3

[amber oasis]

errr

[rich flint]

well i would if my internet wasn't being slow

[amber oasis]

If that's the case, math, learn the cli

Anything but the cli will be limiting

[rich flint]

my pc is my limitation 😂

[amber oasis]

Git was made by a cli afficinado

[north flax]

Someone who happens to also have made a couple of other things :p

[amber oasis]

some tiny things

[north flax]

Ye, they're practically not used

[amber oasis]

narcissist too, names stuff after himself

(yes, git is named after himself)

[rich flint]

tfw my netbook hard drive is dying and i have to clone it onto a SD Card and use Windows To Go as a temporary solution until i get a new SSD/HDD for it

Yes i did say Win To Go on SD Card, it's most likely faster than the hard drive that's dying

when i mean dying, i mean just on the brink of probably going kaboom 😂

[crystal fable]

What?

What part of his name is git?

Git goin?

Gitterson?

Gittory?

Anywho @north flax if you get the chance I could use some help with cli

[lethal willow]

what do you need help with specifically?

[crystal fable]

Getting the thing to compile the dependencies before compiling the actual project

And compiling with the correct flags

[lethal willow]

Have you looked at make?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Makefile#Example

[crystal fable]

ETCARS.readthedocs.io should list the dependencies either that or the repo should on ETCARS.menzelstuduos.com

[lethal willow]

ah, you mean like Boost and stuff?

[crystal fable]

Yes

Boost

Openssl

[lethal willow]

Pretty sure you can just install those with apt-get?

depending on distro

[crystal fable]

Nope

The compiler flags

It complains

[lethal willow]

what's the error?

[crystal fable]

Something about multithread

And debug

But I can't change it because of how mine has to be compiled to load correctly

It's one of the little flags

[north flax]

<Response [400]>
{"embeds": ["0"]}

is an exceptionally helpful response...

[crystal fable]

It's the --shared and --fPIC flags

[lethal willow]

We'd need to se the specific error

[crystal fable]

Basically it complains that the packages with apt aren't compiled with the fpic flag

That's all the error really says

@lethal willow

[lethal willow]

what's the apt package you are trying to install?

[amber oasis]

@crystal fable You probably haven't heard of him,his name is Linus

he doesn't have a youtube channel

[crystal fable]

It's not a package

It's when I'm compiling my package

[amber oasis]

also, look at cmake for generating more complex makefiles

[crystal fable]

I did and I did determine it was faster for me to compile on each machine type

Now that all 3 of my dev machines work

And have dependencies compiled

[lethal willow]

We really need to see the exact error. Compiling could fail because a shared library isn't compiled with certain flags

[crystal fable]

(Mac, Linux, and windows

[amber oasis]

You should really dynamically link on linux

[crystal fable]

But how do I know what paths to link to?

Also

That doesn't solve the issue

[amber oasis]

that's not something you should worry about, ld figures that out for you

You haven't shared the full error

[crystal fable]

I'm not at my PC rn

And don't have access

[rich flint]

rip

double rip

[crystal fable]

I'm busy now, I have a job so

I shut down most of my normal hardware

At home while I'm out

[rich flint]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/433251702750052373/453531283717619733/34347175_10155365112381821_4007322130617204736_o.jpg

[amber oasis]

#photos is more suited for random memery

[small ermine]

But it's got some gitbits

😂

[north flax]

Intel, you might want to look at your code, and your .ini file

[rich flint]

is that... Wordpress?

cos it has _wp

[north flax]

Yeah, looks like it. As well as an error in the code, and that it shows the error, when in a prod environment you're not gonna want to show errors

[small ermine]

😂 😂 😂

[crystal fable]

Also

Make seems very complicated

to try to learn

and honestly not worth it for me

[rich flint]

makes sense

sry bad joke

[crystal fable]

@rich flint make is a compiling script system

you run 1 script on all OSs

[rich flint]

[crystal fable]

and it compiles dependencies, etc... based on the OS environment

trouble is it's extremely difficult to setup and learn

[rich flint]

rip

omg defragging takes too long

[crystal fable]

you don't defrag unless it's a mechanical

[rich flint]

wut...

ye i got mechanical

[crystal fable]

you defragging an ssd or mechanical

oofta

[rich flint]

lol im not rich enough for an SSD

[crystal fable]

I probably should defrag

but

you can get a 120GB for $30

[rich flint]

I left my hard drive 22% fragmented :3

oh cmon that's cheap

it'd be like £40 here

which is like $60

[crystal fable]

ehhhh maybe

i can't see it being that much more expensive

[rich flint]

https://i.imgur.com/OqsvqUZ.png

[crystal fable]

and $30 is cheap compared to 1TB for $250

which is prbly like $450

[rich flint]

oof i found a cheaper one https://i.imgur.com/bua74QI.png

[crystal fable]

yeah see

there ya go

actually, that's not terrible

[rich flint]

thing is...

I don't have slots for SSDs in my computer...

i think anyway

[crystal fable]

wdym

ssds are compatible with all SATA

as long as it's a 2.5in form factor

[rich flint]

i meant as in i haven't got anywhere to put an SSD in my PC

[crystal fable]

i mean...not like it needs a tray

no moving parts

so you could literally let it hang

[rich flint]

kinda sounds like when my pc hangs lmfao

[crystal fable]

and most motherboards have 4-6 sata ports

[rich flint]

i have 4 satas

one spare basically

[crystal fable]

there ya go

[rich flint]

i'd need a 500GB SSD

[crystal fable]

and if one of em is used by disk drive

you probably don't need that anymore unless movies and cds

[rich flint]

or somewhere around that mark

i have lots of stuff, only 100GB is games...

[crystal fable]

I have a blueray writer but I don't use it anymore

[rich flint]

I have 2 CD/DVD drivers but i can take one out to get that free slot

https://i.imgur.com/zR64Kq2.png

[crystal fable]

it's gonna be like 460ish GB

[rich flint]

i search SSD's on amazon, 90% are HDDs showing

[crystal fable]

and a 500 will be like 480

[rich flint]

https://i.imgur.com/tOWehhg.png

https://i.imgur.com/eB66xVk.png

ffs https://i.imgur.com/pqnnpFu.png

External HDD https://i.imgur.com/fVlSF1H.png

[pearl badger]

🤔

[tardy smelt]

How does SSD related to developer :p

[cinder spear]

usually doesn't

[rugged copper]

If I'm storing social account information about a user like on the TMP website, is it best to have individual fields i.e. Twitter, Facebook etc or is there a better way?

[north flax]

I'd recommend either having a table, similar to id, user_id, social_media_name, link, or separate columns, for a SQL database.

Second is quicker to set up and program, first one is easier to scale up to add many different kinds of social media in

[rich flint]

adb is being annoying to me

lols

[lethal willow]

adb is annoying

[rich flint]

i'm trying to unlock my bootloader so i can re-install the Default ROM

for the device

and then im gonna see if LineageOS will work on it :3

dammit error: device '(null)' not found

finally it wants to work

omg it's now doing a normal reboot and not bootloader

(╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻

you were saying Nathan

-_-

[lethal willow]

inb4 it gets bricked

[crystal fable]

Lol personally I'd do the first option

Have a table with types

Then you can specify required

Auth accounts

[rich flint]

it wont work so im back to using an iPhone 4 before i get my Mum's old SE

[half ermine]

How can i put an image on the forum without being clickable?

[rich flint]

i don't think you can

i think if you use an embedded one from like imgur it ain't clickable

[half ermine]

I'm using prnt.sc

If i use the image link it won't show the image

if i use the source link it works but its clickable

[rich flint]

that's odd

🤔

[half ermine]

I don't get it

like the banner image is fine

but the bottom is not working

[rich flint]

banner image? bottom image?

[half ermine]

https://forum.truckersmp.com/index.php?/topic/44581-solutions-troubleshoot-performance/

[rich flint]

ahh

if you notice, there is a border around the image

that means it has been uploaded to the forum but still shows a link

try deleting it and just copy the source link without copying image

[half ermine]

already did

used that http://image.prntscr.com/image/O1d0yggvR1ie5uUJrogYMQ.png

[rich flint]

hmm

that's very odd

this is the top image https://i.imgur.com/escgAfP.png

[half ermine]

Could it be size?

[rich flint]

this is bottom https://i.imgur.com/8zfRLdF.png

it's a thumbnail image by looks of it

with custom height and width settings too

[half ermine]

    <img alt="O1d0yggvR1ie5uUJrogYMQ.png" class="ipsImage" height="256" src="http://image.prntscr.com/image/O1d0yggvR1ie5uUJrogYMQ.png" width="1000">
</p>```

Everything is done by the forum

[lethal willow]

I think it's the size. It's changing the size.

[rich flint]

the thank you image has got a class while the other is in p

if you leave the size, or make it smaller size to fit then it might stop the clickable and thumbnail thing

[half ermine]

reducing the size worked

[rich flint]

👌

[rich flint]

Almost full American Truck Simulator support for VT-RPC https://i.imgur.com/FHAYWKa.png ! 😄

https://github.com/VirtualTruckerRPC/Virtual-Trucker-Rich-Presence/releases/tag/2.2.1

[crystal fable]

https://gyazo.com/665497d2dde1b316882fc22bc3909aec

This is someone's terms of service 😱

[cinder spear]

You've learned something all US-based companies do

[tardy smelt]

What are you guys working on?