programming

[urban lantern]

So quiet around here.

It'd be a shame if someone..

Sets truck gear in reverse and walks away from keyboard

Beep. Beep. Beep. Beep.

[paper hound]

pov plays with no sound

[urban lantern]

[fervent axle]

It look like programming with no screen switched on

[paper hound]

I'm big pro coding a buggy drivers hub 😄

[cinder kayak]

Advertising my own website on my VTC's Website: https://i.imgur.com/PHatKja.png

https://truckersmp.com/developers/api#operation/get-vtc-id-members

[shadow marsh]

Sooo, I figured out I want to build a real vehicle tracker.
I will realise it with Arduino, GPS and a GSM Module (Obviously), as well as making it more interesting with a 20x4 LCD Display.

The Display will show the current date/time, as well as the GPS/GSM Signal, the current speed and the driven distance since last reset.

Data will be stored on a MySQL DB, connection will be done over a PHP Json RestAPI. (Get Data & Push Data).

On the website part, I want to show on a map, where I was driving, like... a line where I was, since I push data every 5 seconds of my current location and the current speed of driving.

What do you think?

[cinder kayak]

Wouldn't it be easier to track the data using your phone?

[shadow marsh]

Well, I tried it doing so

Buuuut... I failed miserably...

and the code base for the arduino is nearly done just waiting for the sensors to arrive (amazon, hurry up!!!)

[unkempt hamlet]

So, the choice is made already

[shadow marsh]

indeed ^^

but what do you think of the idea overall? so I also can track my working times and so on 🙈

[unkempt hamlet]

If it works, it works

[shadow marsh]

I just need a 3d printer... to make everything tight and put it in my company car

[quick glen]

I've actually done this, although instead of using a rest API to push data I use a raw socket to keep a persistent connection.

I also added a can bus module I've connected to my cars can bus so that I can read data from all the modules in it (and even send commands to some).

I have mine connected to power 24/7, so I have put a lot of work into lowering power consumption and having the entire arduino and its modules power off whilst the car is "asleep" only regularly waking up to report back before sleeping again.

[shadow marsh]

well, since I am not allowed to use the OBD2 port, I have to use the "normal" powering way over a 12v dc to a breadboard 5 & 12 v dc line to power everything up

[quick glen]

Data is stored in a database and I've made an API that an app I've made for my phone uses. Right now I'm working on sending real time events from the car (and the server) which can be used by the mobile app for in app stuff and push notifications

[shadow marsh]

[quick glen]

I dont use the OBD2 port, I'm spliced in on the cars internal can bus. So I am listening in on the communication between modules.. as if I was a module

[shadow marsh]

ahhh

well, I doubt I would be allowed to do that either 🙈

[quick glen]

My entire arduino stack is hidden in the dashboard so you can't tell its there

[quick glen]

Yeah, my benefit is that I own the car and that its old so it it breaks it breaks 😂

[shadow marsh]

I can't modify a rented car 🙈

my company relies on rented cars (soon not anymore) but still, I wouldn't be allowed to change anything

but I might build a second part for my PERSONAL car, where I can do, what I want

[quick glen]

Yeah, bit of a downside but its still a fun project

Lots to learn from it

[shadow marsh]

[quick glen]

Eventually I want to be able to lock/unlock the car from the app, aswell as turn on the diesel heater (It gets really cold during the winter here) for defrosting

[shadow marsh]

not bad... not bad

well, I mainly just want to build a tracker with speed, location and time 🙈

[quick glen]

Now I'm waiting on getting a raspberry pi so I can hook up as a Bluetooth adapter for the radio, but also hook it up to the 4g module the arduino uses to create a hotspot for road trips.

Being hooked up to the can bus I can tell when the buttons on the steering wheel is pressed and use that to integrate next/previous song over Bluetooth 🙈

[shadow marsh]

you've planned much, aye 🙈

[quick glen]

Yeah, I've put a lot of time into it 😂

[shadow marsh]

I can tell 🙈

[fervent axle]

Did you have also a maintenance status when you're going in stackoverflow?

[fervent axle]

nvm it's gone

[cinder kayak]

Nvm I won't answer

Nub

[pulsar jungle]

https://blog.jetbrains.com/phpstorm/2022/08/phpstorm-2022-2-is-now-available/

[mossy cloud]

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMNbMEt1E/?k=1

[tepid vault]

is there an API url for the ETS & ATS traffic?

[violet copper]

https://api.truckyapp.com/docs/#api-Traffic-GetV2Traffic

[tepid vault]

thx

[toxic turtle]

Im lazy, im bored, im without a style or a vision on how my vtc website should look. Who is creative for such a project?

[raw sedge]

go on fiverr

[mossy cloud]

There's no shame in using a website builder if you haven't got the skills / time to build your own 🙂

[toxic turtle]

Am using wordpress already, but im too busy to have the time setting up the website itself to make it look Nice and profesionel again😅

[unkempt hamlet]

https://discord.com/blog/how-discord-supercharges-network-disks-for-extreme-low-latency

[violet tulip]

that's insane

[sour eagle]

Hey, I've been working on Alfie - An open source Discord Bot for TruckersMP stats programmed in Python using interactions.py. The bot uses Discord's interactions such as slash commands, autocomplete & choices. I also think it displays info in an eye catching and unique way. It's still a work in progress but it's now been deployed :) Source code for anyone interested: https://github.com/SamNuttall/TruckersMP-Info-Bot. Feedback appreciated

[shadow marsh]

Awesome work

[quartz moth]

Alfie?

What a great name

[sour eagle]

[ionic cave]

That's my dogs name

[unkempt hamlet]

Working on a little hidden object game to learn Godot engine.
Progress so far:

• Splash screen, main menu and main level
• Programmatically compiled levels from manifest and resources
• Resource offsets for wide levels, driven by mouse position

Plans:

• Generate POIs from resources on the fly (to test if it is any viable)
• Pause screen
• Save states

https://streamable.com/a96g3t

[pure spoke]

Hello lovely people.

I've just launched a new VTC website. Right now this is just plain HTML/CSS on a really awful host.
https://www.F4A.cc

Long term goals are to use Strapi with a VueJS or React front-end. Has anybody used anything similar for their VTC projects before? How did it turn out?

[unkempt hamlet]

Why do you need to have a full AOS lib there when you can just make 3 CSS3 animations?

[pure spoke]

haha because I didn't take just the ones I needed. AOS gives me a lot to play with

[unkempt hamlet]

It is quite overpowered for this landing page, tbh

[pure spoke]

yes it is, do you have a more lightweight anim library you would recommend?

[unkempt hamlet]

I mean, for this exact page, just CSS3 transform and opacity animation will do

They are max. 2 lines each

[pure spoke]

I will have a play with those thanks ❤️

[past shuttle]

Does anyone have any recommendations for job loggers etc?

[unkempt hamlet]

https://www.motionity.app/

[earnest siren]

How come api.truckersmp.com/v2/servers has no more pages? i.e, you can't do ../v2/servers/{server_id} else it'll return a nil. Surely it would be much easier for the user, as they would be able to look up individual servers

[unkempt hamlet]

Why? There is not much info there.

There is no justification for having "pages" for individual servers there.

[winter tulip]

I'm currently learning web development and damn, it's so confusing and overwhelming xd. At first it only was html, then only a few days later came css, again a few days later came php and once again (for the last time) came js. I feel like i haven't even 'mastered' the basics of html, yet i'm still expected to use everything together 😅

[unkempt hamlet]

Well, that's just a tip of this iceberg

[winter tulip]

I only can imagine. I've already heard/seen about stuff like angular or react. But i have to better learn the 'basic' stuff first before i consider learning about those. For example, with html i'm at the point where i always think about when to put something as a div or what's the difference between 'class' and 'id'. With css i'm at the point where i'm trying to figure out how the different position options (static, relative, fixed, etc.) work

[shadow marsh]

Good luck with learning tho!

I gave up webdevelopment long time ago

[winter tulip]

Why did you give up, if i may ask? Because it was too difficult?

[shadow marsh]

Well, because I lost the mood to do so. As well as it was too overwhelming for me to learn all the syntaxes, commands, etc. and all the different resources I would've needed to make a good site.

So I kept coding in Java, since that's the language I know and can work with flawlessly - well, mostly.

[winter tulip]

I can relate. I enjoy coding in java more as well. Which IDE do you use? I'm currently using netbeans

[shadow marsh]

I'm a "eingefleischter" Eclipse IDE user (if you dont know what eingefleischt means, it's german )

[winter tulip]

Same. But i had to switch to netbeans because of database access. And i'm german as well 😄

[shadow marsh]

Well, for DB access i have PMA (since Chrome is running anyway for Ö3) and nice tho

[winter tulip]

Didn't know that was possible with eclipse. I was taught i had to use netbeans for it

[shadow marsh]

Well... I use MariaDB (MySQL) and just use PHPMyAdmin to access the DB - and a mysql adapter for the code internally

[winter tulip]

Are you using linux?

[shadow marsh]

on the remote server, yes

Debian 10 x64

and on my laptop win 11 pro x64

[cinder kayak]

Because he has me for Web-Development now

[shadow marsh]

Which I'm very glad and grateful of

[mossy cloud]

JetBrains is the best IDE imo @winter tulip, but is expensiveeeee if you're not a student

[unkempt hamlet]

JetBrains is a company, not IDE

[mossy cloud]

Well, their suite of IDEs anyway

Depends on the task at hand

[unkempt hamlet]

True

[mossy cloud]

It's like synonymous with going to "hoover" something - It's a brand but you could well be using a dyson lol

[unkempt hamlet]

Xerox

[shadow marsh]

Interesting has any1 tried this of you?

[cinder kayak]

Not yet

[shadow marsh]

[cinder spear]

with anything popular it's always the most efficient way to get help

with unpopular things you might just get "yeah it's terrible, deal with it"

[shadow marsh]

yeah... I do have two or three parts which are terrible in my codebase... but I cannot really change it, as its due to a dependency I use. Weird but I gotta live with that

[sour eagle]

Is it possible to get a TruckersMP user via their Discord ID through the API?

[violet tulip]

no, tmp id or steam id

[sour eagle]

Shame, okay thanks

[unkempt hamlet]

It will be unreliable anyway, because the user can hide their Discord snowflake.

[shadow marsh]

what technically is possible but not really recommended is - you simply make a loop and an integer which increments with every done, save the info in a personal database and in that way you can get the discord-id, however, you would have to do that often, so the data keeps up2date. However, I think TruckersMP would rate-limit that

[unkempt hamlet]

Don't ever do that.

That's highly irresponsible.

[sour eagle]

Yeah.. I've written about why this is bad already as a similar thing could be done for player names. https://gist.github.com/SamNuttall/2530ac8ceccf2f93a8528eff2f820404#creating-a-local-copy

[unkempt hamlet]

While "The search algorithm" paragraph is out of date, the rest of it is a pretty good read

[shadow marsh]

As I said, CJ - it's not recommended

[unkempt hamlet]

It should not ever be in consideration, not just "not recommended"

[shadow marsh]

Well, I don't even plan to do that anyway

[unkempt hamlet]

If API doesn't explicitly allow you to request multiple entities with pagination, don't even think about it

[shadow marsh]

Cuz.. why would I need TMP stuff on a MC Server?

[sour eagle]

Hmm, I don't think it's out of date. At least the example I gave is still true. Searching for me, "SamN", the result appears on the second page. https://truckersmp.com/user/search?search=SamN

[unkempt hamlet]

I mean, you're not the only one with SamN* in the nickname

[sour eagle]

That's true. Though I do think an exact match should be listed first.

[unkempt hamlet]

It is actually sorted by descending ID

It is not that bad that it used to be though

[sour eagle]

Ah okay. And yeah, while it may not be that bad the point I was making in that gist is that if someone searched for a player via a Discord bot, and the name was exact, you'd expect that player to be shown.

[native gazelle]

How can I display traffic info of a particular server in embed?

https://i.imgur.com/NzJUQuS.png

this does'nt work

[unkempt hamlet]

You first need to filter the response for the particular server

[native gazelle]

how?

[unkempt hamlet]

Depends on what exactly your command does

[native gazelle]

the cmd shows traffic info

[unkempt hamlet]

For all servers or just one?

[native gazelle]

1

oh wait I figured it out

thanks btw

[native gazelle]

@unkempt hamlet can I talk to u in dms for a sec?

[unkempt hamlet]

No, but you can ask here

[native gazelle]

I tried filtering and stuff, but it dosent work

can you tell me a way to do that?

[unkempt hamlet]

What do you need to do?

[native gazelle]

Like I want to display players/maxplayers of each server in a single embed

[unkempt hamlet]

JavaScript?

[native gazelle]

yup

[unkempt hamlet]

Learn how objects work.

Then you will be able to grab the data you need in a loop.

[native gazelle]

thats what I don't know, and I am asking it here

[unkempt hamlet]

You can google it, N times quicker than asking here.

[mint hawk]

Arr[0] Arr[1] etc

[native gazelle]

yup, got it. thanks

[native gazelle]

https://i.imgur.com/GQkMdmA.png
Why does this don't work?

[cinder spear]

what do you get back from it if anything? is message from discord.js here and where exactly?

[native gazelle]

I get an error

https://i.imgur.com/sMCSPyT.png

[cinder spear]

looks like something wrong with what you're including in the .send

[native gazelle]

ig the code is correct tho

bc I am sending two messages

and the first one is going normally

but 2nd one gives an error

[cinder spear]

show the one that works?

[native gazelle]

btw new err
https://i.imgur.com/Lxrd9IS.png

[native gazelle]

https://i.imgur.com/mb626Ie.png

[cinder spear]

I meant the code

[native gazelle]

oh ok wait

[cinder spear]

the error is just Discord telling you that you're sending data that isn't formatted in the way they expect

[native gazelle]

https://pastebin.pl/view/6efea736

[cinder spear]

it might be as simple as data.game_time instead in the addField. There's no response object in that API

[native gazelle]

oh yeah correct

theres like no reponse thing

[native gazelle]

one more question

how do I display this like in am or pm thingy?
https://i.imgur.com/S8mkZwX.png

[cinder spear]

you'll have to write a function to convert it

[native gazelle]

<t:21809743>

this?

[cinder spear]

no, in code

[native gazelle]

but like this right?

[cinder spear]

https://truckersmp.com/developers/api#operation/get-game_time the documentation includes the necessary information

[native gazelle]

ok

thx

[mint hawk]

it's actually very confusing making that readable

and it's even more odd because the one site that's managed to make it readable https://map.truckersmp.com/, uses a different api 😂

[unkempt hamlet]

Well, there is only one source of truth

[fathom mist]

Who know LUA coding?

[unkempt hamlet]

Just ask right away, somebody will answer eventually!

[ashen nebula]

Is there an oauth api for truckersmp

Or smth

Working on a trucking logger

[cinder spear]

You can use Steam login and then get the corresponding TruckersMP account from our API

[ashen nebula]

Alright

[ashen nebula]

Thinking about making a node.js wrapper for trucksrsmp's api

[unkempt hamlet]

https://github.com/iraizo/truckersmp.ts

[ashen nebula]

oh nice

[ashen nebula]

the library didn't work for some reason managed to do it via manual fetching though

probably messed smth up

managed to get steam linking to work

[shadow marsh]

looks very good

[ashen nebula]

thanks

vtc part is the most annoying though

to make

Made it open source

[shadow marsh]

I can imagine that 😄

[ashen nebula]

It's on github

[fervent axle]

I admit totally it, so annoying but still challenging so that's pretty cool :p

[ashen nebula]

True

[ashen nebula]

Let's start a debate

Vue vs React

[unkempt hamlet]

Nah, Vue/React vs Svelte

[ashen nebula]

I use Vue for big projects

Svelte for small

[unkempt hamlet]

Angular vs VanillaJS

[ashen nebula]

https://youtu.be/Ap1CzrIBIVw

[cinder spear]

what's wrong with svelte for larger projects?

[mint hawk]

vue, minimal code is the best code

[ashen nebula]

Tried it before and it was hard to overlook my code with svelte

[shadow marsh]

Hello there,

I'm creating a bot for our VTC and I want to ask, how many calls can I do on the news endpoint of the TMP API before I get blocked?

I would say 1 call per Hour, aka 24 calls a day or is that too much?

Kind Regards and TIA^Kit

[cinder kayak]

I'd say: Test it out

[shadow marsh]

dont want to take the risk getting blocked xD

[cinder kayak]

[ashen nebula]

I'd say if you're scared of getting blocked make a cache system to prevent getting blocked

[shadow marsh]

yet still I have to update the cache

[ashen nebula]

For example I use sessions that expire on my own logging book

Like every 24 hours

Once someone logs in it fetches their profile and caches it

Only when you view a vtc profile it fetches it from the api

[cinder spear]

that's fine

[ashen nebula]

But i haven't had any rate limits or smth yet during testing so you should be fine probably

[sour eagle]

A while ago, the unofficial rate limit appears to be maximum of 60 per minute. So, 1 per hour is significantly below that. #programming message

[mint hawk]

they block via ip right?

if u use a vps without static ip's you might be able to get around it

[shadow marsh]

Yeah, guess so

And how, if the bot run on that said server with the static IP?

[sour eagle]

I don't recommend trying to get around an API limit. I think 60/m is plenty.

[cinder spear]

please don't try to get around anything. If you have concerns about your API usage, get in touch

[mint hawk]

Yeah that's more than enough

[unkempt hamlet]

https://github.com/cloudflare/workerd

o o o o

[pulsar jungle]

This looks very pog https://blog.cloudflare.com/turnstile-private-captcha-alternative/

[eager pilot]

This looks amazing.

[pulsar jungle]

It sure does

[violet tulip]

https://developers.cloudflare.com/r2/platform/pricing/

[ember canyon]

.

[fervent axle]

For those devs who know OCR stuff, which package do you use? Do you prefer EasyOCR or Tesseract or something else? Why?

I need your opinion because I'd like to create a software which determine and recognize license plate and ID Card text the most performant and quick as possible

[violet tulip]

i've heard good things about Tesseract

[fervent axle]

I'll try first with EasyOCR to see how is it, test it but thanks for your opinion ^^

[violet tulip]

someone knows how to upgrade Laravel from 8 to 9 without dying under the dependencies hell?

[mossy cloud]

Clone the project into another folder, upgrade in that - Also check breaking changes at https://laravel.com/docs/9.x/upgrade 🙂

Also this service isn't free but will create a PR to upgrade you https://laravelshift.com/

[violet tulip]

yes i know Shift, looking for it yesterday

actually I was thinking to clone a new Laravel 9 project and then install one by one all packages then copy and paste the old app code

[opal arch]

I remember that in the past, somebody here shared a library with TypeScript types for our API.
Well, we now have an official one (which is highly inspired by discord-api-types as it fulfils the same purpose): https://github.com/TruckersMP/API-Types

[cold drum]

How can I get the user profile link using the username? (Javascript / Discord.js)

[violet copper]

User profile link? Like https://discord.com/users/user_id

Which opens their profile in Discord

[cold drum]

tmp/user/123123123

[violet copper]

Ohh tmp lol, I guess that makes more sense heh

[cold drum]

uu

[cinder kayak]

https://truckersmp.com/user/search?search=YourUsername

Then search through the results for the right username again and then fetch the Profile Link from the correct result.

[cold drum]

but I do need to use the api right? there should be an easier way cuz this can get the bot ratelimited

[cinder kayak]

https://truckersmp.com/developers/api#operation/get-player-id

According to the API documentation, you can only fetch a User using the TruckersMP ID or the Steam-ID.

https://i.imgur.com/OaD92D0.png

[cold drum]

I'll notify you if something goes wrong, I'll try this out. It seems like there is the name string, that works too! Thanks

[cinder kayak]

The name String is part of the response. If you give the API a User's TMP or Steam ID, it gives you some information, including the Player's TMP-Name, back.

[tardy smelt]

Make sure you don't scrap the website or you could get your server banned from accessing our site since it's against our TOS.

[cold drum]

wdym "scrap the website"

its a discord bot

[tardy smelt]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_scraping

If you want to get information from our site. Please only use the API.

[cold drum]

ahh. you don't have to worry cuz I don't even know basics of javascript. I only know how to code discord bots via discord.js because it is what it is. so I don't have that much knowledge lol, I'll learn how to use API today.

[royal nova]

Hii Here I have something nice for them.
a website for free CSS templates. https://www.free-css.com/free-css-templates
Love greetings,
Mo1993

[shadow marsh]

And what exactly has that to do with... development?

You apply to a position, when the recruitment is open.

TMP Website.

They will announce it in #announcements as well

[opal blade]

Not really a good reason to be staff tbh

[north flax]

Throwback friday :p
https://aloneonahill.com/blog/if-php-were-british/

[paper hound]

Hey, just wondering is it allowed to proxy the truckersmp api so that I can display information onto a website?

[mossy cloud]

What do you mean by needing to proxy it? You can just make a GET request via the REST API in order to display information

You can access the documentation here: https://truckersmp.com/developers/api

[paper hound]

Just gets the cors error whenever i try without a proxy for it

[opal arch]

You can send requests only to the above documented methods

[brazen mango]

please restart servers its laggy

[azure fox]

[knotty seal]

F

[fathom mist]

Can someone teach me how to do a Radar script in LUA? (For Roblox)

[azure fox]

Chances are, asking to be spoon-fed won't get you anywhere. Your best bet is places like slack overflow, YouTube, or googling the steps. There's probably an abundance of code examples on GitHub as well.

[static cypress]

Currently training an AI to drive on TruckersMP, I have around 1gb of images to test with at the moment, but 15x more is needed before I'm trying it down populous roads.

[cold drum]

1gb ain't nothing if the image size is the default 2mb

[static cypress]

the images are 100x100...

even less now

75x90

it's only the windscreen + it's compressed...

[cold drum]

damn

[static cypress]

I'm training it rn on real driving footage

And also the way I'm doing it allows for use on multiple games with you having to change nothing

Just click start and boom

[static cypress]

And does anyone know if TruckersMP has any plans to implement rules against AI/bot driving

Hopefully not as it doesn't hinder player experience at all

[static cypress]

each photo is 20kb btw

[azure fox]

I don't think they plan to ban AI themselves, but the ruleset still applies to them. The ban-evading rule would probably apply to your account and the account on which the AI drives.

[mint hawk]

Start by declaring variables for the centre position and size of the radar. Then draw the radar background and finally draw the radar dots for each object.

[violet tulip]

aren't they already forbidden?

[static cypress]

Don't think so, it doesn't impose harm or risk to others.

[solemn sable]

Do we have a support for devs?

I am new to the api's and trying to get familiar with it

I am trying to display the servers, but it keeps spinning in circles

[solemn sable]

please reply to my message when you respond to me,I am going to sleep

[azure fox]

What language are u working with?

[solemn sable]

just js, working on doing it in express

[azure fox]

https://www.npmjs.com/package/truckersmp & https://truckersmp-ts.vercel.app/interfaces/_interfaces_servers_.iserver.html or https://github.com/TruckersMP/API-Types should help you. If you want to send the code you're using someone may be able to spot your problem or where you're going wrong :)

[solemn sable]

I will get to that point soon

[solemn sable]

its throwing me a error on the router

can I not seend code?

Players.js

app.js

[azure fox]

what's the error

[cinder spear]

app.use(Main)

the routers already know what paths they handle

[solemn sable]

I did it this way on my Main computer last night and it started

im at work computer rn

[solemn sable]

after changing

[cinder spear]

what version of express are you using?

[solemn sable]

I just did npm i express

[solemn sable]

"express": "^4.18.2",

[cinder spear]

I don't know. Likely something with how you're requiring or exporting the modules

[solemn sable]

im stuck, not sure why it would work on my home computer and not here

[solemn sable]

fixed it, but cant pull up the page for the api servers
Does this look right?

[sour eagle]

When using an Express Router, you need to provide middleware as the error says (router.use). I recommend reading the docs here: https://expressjs.com/en/guide/routing.html
It looks like you don't need a router for your specific needs, and could just use app.get, as shown in the first example

[solemn sable]

so basically take out the routes? doesnt make sense. I got it going anyways, just need to figure out how to display the info

[sour eagle]

A router is designed to handle multiple endpoints whereas it just looks like you're using a router per endpoint hence why I suggested it may be redundant for your needs.
You still need routes, but instead of creating a router each time, you could just use .get on the app constant.

const express = require('express')
const app = express()

app.get('/servers', (req, res) => {
  // handle logic
})

[solemn sable]

This is my first time with apis

I got you

[solemn sable]

I got it down, but I am getting confused on how to even work with the api, its just confusing

I mean your pulling from the json portion and parsing it out then re-jsoning it?

[azure fox]

What are you trying to achieve?

At the moment all I can see is that you're building an API to interact with TMP's API, but don't do anything with the data

[solemn sable]

I am trying to just display data tbh, not trying to build a api. I am just learning how to mess around with apis and get their data tbh

[azure fox]

Oh. Where do you want to display the data?

[solemn sable]

anywhere tbh, im not making it a actual app, just testing and seeing how to work with apis

[azure fox]

Oh. Wouldn't just making HTTP get requests and logging the response be better then?

[solemn sable]

im not sure, im new in general tbh

[azure fox]

JavaScript isn't my forte, but I'd say making HTTP GET requests and then logging the response is a much easier way to experiment with the TMP API than building what's effectively an API of your own just to call TMP's API.

const request = require('request');
request('https://api.truckersmp.com/v1/players', function (error, response, body) {
  console.error('error:', error); // Print the error if one occurred
  console.log('statusCode:', response && response.statusCode); // Print the response status code if a response was received
  console.log('body:', body); // Print the HTML for the Google homepage.
});

code example taken from: https://www.npmjs.com/package/request

[azure fox]

You'll need to install the module request before you can use it.

Do note that package is deprecated

[solemn sable]

got it

[solemn sable]

meaning, is there a new one or what?

[azure fox]

Not sure if there's a new one but there're certainly other packages like it. However, the current package will not be updated.

[azure fox]

Is that what u wanted?

[solemn sable]

for now thanks

what do you mainly use? PhP?

[azure fox]

Occasionally. I mainly use Python and sometimes, js

[solemn sable]

I gotcha

[cinder spear]

node 18+ has fetch natively, no need for a requests package

[violet tulip]

would add, thank god

someone knows how to get all relations from a Laravel Model? I need the relation names, trying with getRelations() but returning always an empty array

oh just found this package adideas/laravel-get-relationship-eloquent-model, did the trick 😄

[mossy cloud]

Do you mean the same as preventing lazy loading? You can use Model::with('relationname') to achieve that

[violet tulip]

no 🙂

i want to have an array with all relations names (without loading them). that package worked 🙂

[mossy cloud]

Ah okay, nice 🙂

[fervent axle]

getRelated() would return something instead of getRelations()? I wonder. Anyway you fixed your problem, I'm kinda late to share some ideas

[violet tulip]

didn't tried actually. but also getRelation($name) returned null. If i got correctly how it works, getRelations() works when they are loaded.
I think the tecnique used from that page is pure Reflection

[cinder spear]

https://devblogs.microsoft.com/typescript/announcing-typescript-5-0-beta/

[mint hawk]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/855007454076207124.gif?size=80&quality=lossless

[gaunt spindle]

Good evening my fellow devs.

[quartz moth]

Anyone used AWS lightsail before? Good, bad?

[cinder spear]

what's the use-case?

it's almost certainly not the best option but it can be just fine

[quartz moth]

Just a small hobby website, so low traffic and doesn't require many resources

[cinder spear]

if it can run on the cheapest one it's probably the best option

unless you can make it entirely serverless and host it on something like railway.app for free

or vercel, or netlify

saves you the trouble of maintaining a server for it

[quartz moth]

Ah ok nice, thanks a lot 3v

[dim lake]

I'm giving a crack at Force Feedback settings and I am trying to wrap up a simple forcefeedback project (could be C#, c++; Windows 10/VS2022...) to first see which effects I can use best in my cheapo wheel. It seems it doesn't support DirectInput as I get an E_NOIMPL from CreateEffect in a c++ project I found on GitHub.

Any directions I could follow to get that working?

[mint hawk]

Isn't DirectInput a deprecated API that Windows 10 no longer supports?

[dim lake]

I don't think it is deprecated, many many hardware supports it. Vut xinput is really the "new standard" an M$ asks to favor this interface in modern programs. But by no means you can oversee DirectInput support to your tool if you want to provide broad compatibility.

Besides, the joywheel I'm fiddling with is 2007, so it knows nothing about XInput.

I might actually need to write the driver to that thing... 😖

[dim lake]

On a different topic, maybe the launcher app don't really need source maps bundled with the webpages (app.asar). Or is that there to help provide launcher bug reports?

[dim lake]

dang it, cant share json files here.
I made a pt-BR.json translation for the launcher, if the devs (or anyone) is interested. It works well, but there's something left to enable before I can save the language (I can switch to the language once I open but the choice doesn't get saved).
I used this in LANGUAGE object for the lang: "Português/Brasil": "pt-BR",.
It is up to date with version 1.3.2 of the launcher.

[violet copper]

Best to open a Feedback ticket on the website to probably Project Management

they likely won't see this here

[dim lake]

they're not looking for that anyway. it was fun and I learned a bit about what's used to make the launcher.
thanks for the directions though! :]

back to my rumble plugin. I even studied KMDF (windows drivers stuff) to see what I can do to make this wheel rumble in the games.... Not worth reversing the simple HID device, my attempt now is to send FFB commands via RawInput, as it seems DirectInput (much less XInput) should work with the poor ol' wheel.

[violet tulip]

GoDaddy DNS are down in many european countries

https://twitter.com/search?q=godaddy dns&src=typed_query&f=live

[supple gyro]

DDOS

?

[violet tulip]

no i dont think so

[restive hare]

Thanks for your efforts, but the translations are provided by our internal Translation team only and we don't accept community contributions at the moment.

[dim lake]

no worries

[dim lake]

I found 64-bit drivers for my rumbly wheel. But they are downright broken (access violation). Went back to scratch and am writing the very driver.... I guess I will just have the basic ConstantForce effect working and will probably still need a plug in as ETS2/ATS now use the fancy force feedback effects. Chewing down spring, damper, groove effects in a puny motor with an unbalanced weight is crazy! :P

And I still have the problem of the open source drivers only working in 32-bit. I'll have to figure out how to hook the 64-bit DLL correctly.

What an adventure!

[dim lake]

not much going on here it seems. I just tested the game with my driver, I can finally have the stick rumble in echoes to the rumbling truck engine! \o/

although I feel something is amiss with the rumbling effect and the truck behavior... I'd expect a jump while turning truck on, and feel more rumbling than it does when I step deep in the gas

but I can definitively feel the truck now!.. the steering settings all "minnied out" as there's no sense in trembles vs steering right or left. heh

[shadow marsh]

I know, it's not much, but I finally made my very first discord radio playing music bot well, it only joins and starts playing the hardcoded radio (should not play anything else) 😄

[dim lake]

and I have my "force rumbleback" SCS Plugin working! Much much much better than game's original force feedback stuff. The original FF settings might work for expensive steering wheels, but old PS2-compatible, vibration-only, are no good with ETS2.

[dim lake]

Is there any public material on how exactly TruckersMP does its injection with the game? What call they grab and perhaps how do they update the address every new release? Or is that their "trade secret"?
I think that will be the only way to implement something to let me rest anywhere. I basically want to be able to rest at rest stops locations that are broken in the game, and I believe the only way would be to inject code to "toggle" the current truck location as a rest spot.

[opal arch]

Those two questions are unrelated. Anyway, the tools we have are a trade secret. But the fact that we hook and call functions is no secret; that is how all these modifications work. If you are interested specifically in TruckersMP, you can take a look at our previous (unfinished) code base from 2013: https://github.com/MRBlueGame95/ETS2MP/tree/master/src/Client/Core/Game

Or you can base your hooks on pattern scan. Like this FMOD plugin does it: https://github.com/dariowouters/ts-fmod-plugin/blob/a999af4/ts-fmod-plugin/dllmain.cpp#L256
FiveM also uses pattern scan: https://github.com/citizenfx/fivem/blob/62cc4c4/code/components/rage-graphics-five/src/RenderHooks.cpp#L74-L92

I would personally recommend pattern scan as that one works better with a fewer amount of hooks; you do not have to port between versions unless there is a breaking change

But that of course depends on the pattern you write

[dim lake]

thanks! I will give pattern scanning a shot

[zealous eagle]

Afternoon! Does anyone use AWS S3 for static website hosting?

[wild holly]

Hi! The Steam helper has stopped working since a few weeks. It throws a

Uncaught (in promise) Error: Cannot read properties of undefined (reading 'games')
    at o (browser-polyfill.min.js:1:9257)

error. Somebody knows an idea about how to fix this?

[lethal willow]

what steam helper

[cinder spear]

probably referring to https://github.com/cjmaxik/truckersmp-steam-helper

[pulsar hill]

Anyone know a good tutorial on how to set up the scs SDK for ETS2 and how do i use it with js/python?

[zealous eagle]

Search for SCS modding wiki, all the information and documentation is available there 🙂

[pulsar hill]

Thanks for the help.

[pulsar hill]

Hey there. I see that the examples given in https://download.eurotrucksimulator2.com/scs_sdk_1_14.zip are in C++. Is there anything that i can do to access the API using python or js?

[zealous eagle]

Not too sure mate, I'm only just starting out with this stuff too 🙂

[pulsar hill]

Ohhhh thanks for the help.

[quick glen]

The SCS SDK is only in C++. If you want to use it in JS or python you need to use a package/project that provides this for you. For example: https://github.com/RenCloud/scs-sdk-plugin which has a pre-made client for C#, but in makes the data available in a memory mapped file that can be accessed from any programming language.

[pulsar hill]

Thanks. I will check that out.

[wild holly]

Yes I was referring to this one. In the meantime it is working again. Probably some temporary issue with some API.

[unkempt hamlet]

If you're referring to TruckersMP Steam Helper, then it works fine to me, cannot reproduce the issue. (I am the creator of said extension)

[wild holly]

If you check I just wrote yesterday that it is working again, probably some API issue

[wild holly]

.

[clear laurel]

anyone know how to make SP interiors into Local mods?

[shadow marsh]

What has that to do with development? That'd fit more in #ets2-modding or #ats-modding (depending for what game you would like to do it)

[winter tulip]

Hey guys. I was using fastapi together with mongodb. However, I have the issue that whenever i try to insert_one entity with the POST request I get the error "Unprocessable entity". Any ideas on what the problem might be?

[winter tulip]

For reference

[mint hawk]

I think you're trying to insert a Pydantic model instance directly into MongoDB, which is not allowed

[winter tulip]

Dou you have any idea for a fix?

[mint hawk]

You need to convert all the Pydantic model instances to regular Python dictionaries.

It's been a while since I've used it but I believe with FastAPI, you can use the function jsonable_encoder

[winter tulip]

I will try that once i get home, thanks!

[mint hawk]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/804133408103596032.webp?size=48&quality=lossless

[ember canyon]

hello

how can i be a moderator?

[shadow marsh]

what has that to do with development?

[ember canyon]

idk

[shadow marsh]

you see.... but you apply, to answer your question

[ember canyon]

just curiosity

[shadow marsh]

https://www.truckersmp.com/recruitment

[ember canyon]

i am banned 3 week ago

and 2 day ago

how much is moderator price?

[shadow marsh]

you don't pay for it nor you get paid

[ember canyon]

wow

[shadow marsh]

and also, if you are banned in less than a year from today, you cant apply.

[ember canyon]

ridicilous

i am banned twice

but i am innocent of both

[cold harbor]

[cold harbor]

This can't change anything.

You must not have been banned in the last 1 year to create an application.

[winter tulip]

That fixed it, thanks!

[mint hawk]

All good :)

[arctic pond]

Developer memes best memes

[shadow marsh]

[mild dagger]

XD

[dim lake]

As a suggestions to TruckersMP, a simplistic way to guess installation path of both games:
https://github.com/avengerx/SCSClutchFixer/blob/v1.0.0/ClutchFixer/Program.cs#L21-L79
https://github.com/avengerx/SCSClutchFixer/blob/v1.0.0/ClutchFixer/SteamVDF.cs

That's in C# but probably not that difficult to be ported to Node.JS (I think the current launcher is in Electron, right?)
To be safe, this could be attempted just as initial values for the installation. If any part fails, just behave as the launcher does currently.

(disregard this if the launcher already guesses paths on install -- it didn't back when I installed it first time a month or so ago)

[violet tulip]

in some way you have fixed the situation when the user has moved the game from Steam?
the old installation path remains in the VDF and overall, the whole game content remain in the old folder 😄

[cinder spear]

The hardest part is actually finding where steam is installed to find the vdf file

Reading from registry in electron is not trivial especially when we have to walk a tight rope with AV false positives due to the inherently sketchy nature of injecting dlls in running processes

[violet tulip]

using edge-js and a .net assembly doesn't work?

i read the registry in Trucky from a .net assembly and never had problems.
the real issue is reading the vdf file in a reliable way

[dim lake]

I don't think so. The game is supposed to be run from one or another steam library, and steam only supports the game in one library path at a time, as far as I know. If the person moved the game out of steam's control, well, steam lost control over it.
As lots of validation in TruckersMP relies on steam, I believe that to be a safe bet for most cases.

[dim lake]

For that I just look up registry key with steam installation path. So if it was installed on a different path, that code should find the VDF.

[violet tulip]

also if you move the game from steam, the old game path remains in the vdf aswell the game content

yes, you will find always the VDF but it's not really reliable as it could contains many library folders and the game could be in both place

[dim lake]

I read the VDF file in a very unreliable way; just like, a best effort attempt. Not proper parsing of the file format.

[violet tulip]

that's why I was asking you eventually find a way to resolve correctly the "real" game path

[dim lake]

I believe steam supports moving the game from a lib to another, but having it in different libs, the person went out of their way to hack through and copy files. Then I'd say for these cases, the user should be tech-savvy enough to type in their path. The code is meant to cover the average user's scenario.

[violet tulip]

it's indeed the non techy messing with the game location 😄

[dim lake]

No, I didn't focus on that -- at all. Just "if you installed the game on steam, moved it from steam, and run it from steam" it should work.
With your experience in trucky, you see many people install the game to paths outside steam?

[violet tulip]

i know relatively for sure that it you move the game from the Steam interface, Steam doesn't remove the old game content and will add a new library path

luckily is not so common people moving games multiple times but we have found a good amount to be noticeable, they have 2-3 installations all over the system 😄

[dim lake]

Ya... now I remember... When I moved Fallout4 a few months ago, I needed to:

• copy the files to a temp dir,
• uninstall the game,
• then install it to the new lib dir
• When it started to download and before it actually downloaded much (or anything), I needed to stop the download
• then copy over the files to that dir it creates
• then resume installation (verify files)

But in the end, the VDF should be safe, as steam updates are supposed to go where it points. So whatever is set up with steam should be the default choice (in my tool the only choice lol)
But again, it should work well on truckersMP which has the setting to manually browse for the folder. :P

[violet tulip]

we found also people running the wrong and outdated version of the game without knowing 😄

[dim lake]

I don't think there will ever be an option to fullfill all scenarios... just the most common or default ones, right?

[violet tulip]

or even running TMP with an installation and the single player (from Steam) from another

[dim lake]

ya, there's not much that can be done to these cases, they went out of their way, out of the box, "to break the system".

[violet tulip]

Trucky installs plugins in the first path found, when we discover multiple installations, we ask to the user to delete the old one, then everything will work magically 😄

[dim lake]

I mean, some tricks could be done to search all drives, task list, or even windows event logs; perhaps game directory for game.log.txt... but still, guy has 2-3 installations in different places, there's absolutely no telling, they have to make up their mind and choose that path for themselves. :P

[violet tulip]

and they have also multiple places for -homedir location 😄

[dim lake]

Well, if that weird approach o'mine adds anything to trucky's path finding, you're welcome to use. I just thought it could make a lot of people's lives easier as it always starts as blank.

About being difficult to query registry from nodejs, I don't know, there are even cmd tools to query registry keys, so it totally could be done without even adding yet another of those dependencies that pulls 1000s other dependencies... :P

[violet tulip]

from .net no issues reading the registry, pretty easy

[dim lake]

Nothing's easy in the end, it's just finding reason to dedicate time to them. One day I will fix that wretched turbo gauge in the game! 😵

[dim lake]

it can get complicated when you can't tell whether the key you want is in local machine, user config, syswow64, etc.... I think it can get pretty tricky no matter where you go.
Was working with my ol' steering wheel drivers a few days ago. One driver version installed keys here, the other installed there... none of them properly cleared keys on uninstall, and the list goes on. 😬

Back to this path issue of ours, suppose somebody has family access to a computer. So one kid has one steam account, with X DLC, another kid another steam account ... they just log off an switch accounts and use different library paths... what would that VDF or steam key contain at all?..
There are more points of breakage than meets the eyes :P

[violet tulip]

when you land on user's PC, actually you can find everything, j saw worst things ever, such absurd setups

from my experience, mostly they have different steam accounts but install paths are the same

[weary citrus]

help

[candid pulsar]

it may be helpful for you to check out this link: https://forum.truckersmp.com/index.php?/topic/43150-fatal-error-or-crashing-each-5-10-minutes/

[toxic hornet]

Hello! Next time please ask in #support or dm @opaque oriole for help instead of asking in this channel again. Thank you!

[dim lake]

I was just checking logitech SDK docs. It's only interface to the LEDs (g29, g923.. g27 maybe?) is only to model after RPM gauge and little liberty to go beyond.
I'm thinking on making a plugin to show fuel instead. I already have PoC in c++ playing a few custom effects. Basically my limitation is, I can only light two opposing leds at a time (that is, I cannot light the first green to the left and not the first green to the right, or either red -- but not the other). Other than that, I can even do fancy animation effects if I access the joystick straight via HID interface.

But the other, actual force feedback effects seems to be better off with Logitech API than using DirectInput directly.

First step would be a fancy custom LEDs functionality, but I might give a full force feedback implementation a try, in a second iteration, as I'm not happy with how the game models some feedback from the wheel.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQsOvMWMGVg
Here's a showcase of the available LED combinations in the wheel I recorded the other day (this was before I wrapped up the c++ code, using the logitech-g29 node module.

I'm wondering if I can do anything more useful than RPM display besides fuel level display. Can, for instance, do a motion effect when refueling if telemetry provides any data when I start refueling.

Probably not possible with telemetry data, but a distance sensor while reversing. Maybe this became a thing with the emergency braking and adaptive cruise control though... that is, if the distance from object/collision became a data passed to telemetry...

[dim lake]

I could never imagine how difficult it would be to get a fuel gauge working from a plug in ...thanks to a bug where total fuel capacity is not informed correctly by telemetry callbacks... 😩

[shadow marsh]

Does anyone in here have an Arduino with Sim800L Module and got it to working making a connection to a webserver via PHP API?

[quick glen]

I've done it with a SIM7600, but I used the https://github.com/vshymanskyy/TinyGSM library. I see they support the SIM800 modules as well. Highly recommend checking it out

[shadow marsh]

Alrighty alrighty - do you also happen to know, how to make a connection to a webserver to "submit" new data to the API (which feeds the database) ?

[quick glen]

TinyGSM comes with a lot of examples, they have an example for a https client where they do all the modem stuff.
In their example they used https://github.com/arduino-libraries/ArduinoHttpClient/tree/master to handle the HTTP client stuff, they too have an example on how to do post requests 🙂

[shadow marsh]

ahhhh, awesome thank you veeeery much! 😄

Building a GPS Car Tracker 😄

hence why ^^

[quick glen]

https://github.com/vshymanskyy/TinyGSM/blob/master/examples/HttpsClient/HttpsClient.ino (Shows the modem stuff, implements a get request)
https://github.com/arduino-libraries/ArduinoHttpClient/blob/master/examples/SimplePost/SimplePost.ino (Connects via wifi, but shows how to do a post request)

[quick glen]

Thats "almost" exactly what I did. I also connected up a can-bus module so I could read telemetry from my car.

Although I chose to use a TCP Socket connection instead of doing HTTP requests to send data as I wanted to stream telemetry data in real time.

[shadow marsh]

well, for me its not only a tracker, also has a LCD screen to show real data locally, too 😄

[quick glen]

Neat! I was experimenting with sending data over the can bus to show stuff directly on the cars built in "text screen". My actual goal with the whole project was to be able to start the diesel heater remotely on cold days.
Ended up buying an EV that already had app stuff and pre-heating before getting that far though 😅

[shadow marsh]

hehe - well, that's surely been a great project with remote-starting the heater 😄

[narrow cove]

I would go for TCP sockets too, mainly because it's faster and you can create your own protocol. Otherwise you don't have too much control because the data exchange is on the SIM side. Decode the data on the server side and send it to whatever application you want. I also recommend you to switch to a better MCU. It's easy to work with Arduino, but for more complex application you might need real time processing. STM32 would be a good start (even with a real time operating system like FreeRTOS).

[shadow marsh]

Good to know

[nimble olive]

https://forum.truckersmp.com/index.php?/topic/112076-update-for-truckersmp-api/#comment-1099605

[wooden silo]

When is someone going to add a Chassis Developments bodied bus into ETS2??

They are super customisable

[shadow marsh]

What has that to do with development?

[wooden silo]

Making stuff for ETS2

[shadow marsh]

Nah, that has nothing to do.

This channel is meant for getting help with a piece of code and/or a project - as well to show off something you've made. Can but must not be related to ETS2/ATS

[cinder spear]

#ets2-modding

[ashen nebula]

Took a look at the blog forum

Being a web developer websockets are pretty fast imo

Wouldn't smth like a clustered websocket server in node.js or Deno in combination with keydb(built ontop of redis) be an idea

Would allow for horizontal scaling too

Easily

[summer steppe]

This wouldn't work for many reasons, main ones being:

1. Node is way slower when compared to a native low-level implementation in C++
2. WebSockets use TCP which isn't exactly known for low latency (and use way more bandwidth than basically anything other than polling)
3. Possibility to scale horizontally is completely useless in this case since the game servers run on a single machine (multiple per machine actually)
4. What has KeyDB/Redis got to do with any of this

[ashen nebula]

Hm

Keydb would allow for easily sharing data across clusters

[summer steppe]

Since there’s no need for persistency everything can just be stored in memory

Plus high performance servers usually have a bunch of ram so that’s not really an issue

[ashen nebula]

By sharing data i mean share player positions across clusters

So you don't have to duplicate every single thing across the workers

[summer steppe]

Again, why would you add a database (which adds latency) to a system that runs on a single machine with no need for persistency? That’s the purpose of RAM.

For web servers with load balancers and the need for persistent state of course you need some sort of DB - this doesn’t apply to single-machine game servers.

[ashen nebula]

True

I usually implement keydb to share my state across workers though

[summer steppe]

In web development, yes.

[ashen nebula]

I've also used it for other things than just web development

[cinder spear]

Blogs rarely update while websockets are used for real-time communication. It doesn’t seem like a good fit

Many of the largest websites in the world run on node so it’s plenty good enough for performance on the web and using low level language is generally just asking for unnecessary trouble

[shadow marsh]

We could do a rewrite for TruckersMP on Java Sockets will surely end up goodn't.

Also then I could join the dev team, since I work on Java since 7 years

[cinder spear]

Garbage collection is a bit too expensive for larger games

[shadow marsh]

I know...

I'm trying to make a small-scaled (aka co-op) mp for OMSI2... not been successful yet.

[cinder spear]

There’s a good interview from Todd Howard about some of the technical challenges in making their game engine made for single player games to work for fallout 76 that’s somewhat similar to the challenges in mp mods

[shadow marsh]

Well, thing is, OMSI2 is super old and the game engine is very fragile.

[opal arch]

Unreal has a garbage collection btw.

[cinder spear]

No wonder star wars ran like garbage

[shadow marsh]

@lilac aurora

[lilac aurora]

[shadow marsh]

System.out.println("Hello Soul!");

[opal arch]

Java in C++

[cinder spear]

preprocessor abuse

[shadow marsh]

Jesus christ

Never gonna ever learn CPP

[opal arch]

https://twitter.com/molecularmusing/status/1659479173834973184

Stefan Reinalter (@molecularmusing)

Since I've been asked this question a few times already (and again today), here goes:

A C++ constexpr is not guaranteed to be evaluated at compile-time, but you can easily force the compiler to do it:

#cpp

Twitter · May 19, 2023, 8:40 AM

Ye, avoid it at all cost

[shadow marsh]

I'll just stay as Java Dev mc plugins and discord bots are my specialty

[cinder kayak]

Both is nub.

PHP please, Sir!

And also please get Git repos for everything so I can download your code

[pulsar jungle]

PHP for the win

[azure stratus]

I really wanna learn PHP, tried to learn it for a full-stack class I took and I just didn't gel with it too well

[violet copper]

Viva uses PHP

[pulsar jungle]

Nice

[narrow cove]

PHP is made in C

[pulsar jungle]

That's true

[graceful belfry]

Hey! Just looking for a little bit of assistance here. I’ve been struggling on getting entries with spaces to insert into my database. All that comes back is a syntax error.

For example my query might look something like this:

INSERT INTO databasename (‘column name’) VALUES (‘random entry’)

That above would return as a syntax error due to the space between random and entry. Is there anyway to fix this

[azure stratus]

Are you stringing your column names? Cause it should just be id, not 'id', for example

You could be looking for a similar error but in the wrong place, SQL traces are like that

Unless this for some reason only persists with spaces, at which point

[graceful belfry]

Im not stringing them lol my bad. I just know that when there is a space in between the entries it errors out

[azure stratus]

Can you DM me the error, or send it here, whichever is easier? I'm curious lol

[graceful belfry]

I can when i get home!

[wise finch]

Don't you know any good motivation to learn PHP and Javascript properly? I'm lazy to do it 😄

[azure stratus]

I felt I learned best by making things all the time - for Javascript, Discord.js taught me a lot of paradigms, but I can't really speak to PHP that much. Just find some ideas you want to fulfill and follow them through to completion in one of the languages.

[next crane]

You can use the following syntax, which is more readable:

INSERT INTO databasename SET
FIELD_0 = field_value_0,
...
FIELD_N = field_value_N

INSERT INTO databasename SET
FIELD_0 = mysql.escape(field_value_0),
...
FIELD_N = mysql.escape(field_value_N)

UPDATE databasename SET
FIELD_0 = mysql.escape(field_value_0),
...
FIELD_N = mysql.escape(field_value_N)
WHERE FIELD_N = mysql.escape(`some case`)

Also, you must shield and secure the data transmitted to the database. It depends on the libraries you use. As a rule, this function is called escape.

It is possible that you are try save data to the database that has not been escaped. So you get an error.

[graceful belfry]

I did get it to work! But I may look into formatting like you suggested for readability!

[next crane]

Maybe, this useful for basics https://www.w3schools.com/sql/sql_intro.asp
But, for me, I think, need learn basic SQL, and + for concrete DB, for your work/project.

[wise finch]

Does someone know how I can post a server emoji to rules using carl bot for example?

[summer steppe]

The syntax for custom emojis on Discord is <:emojiName:emojiId> if that's what you're looking for. Add an a before the first colon (ie <a:emojiName:emojiId>) for animated emojis.

[wise finch]

I guess it has to be on server I want to make it right?

[summer steppe]

iirc the bot user needs to be in the guild the emoji is from. A workaround is using a webhook (https://discord.com/developers/docs/resources/webhook#execute-webhook), using which you can send a message with any emoji regardless of the guild it's from.

[shadow marsh]

That moment, when ChatGPT saves you a ton of googling 😂 didnt knew it was that easy on what I want to do

[azure stratus]

I've been so wary of asking it for help especially since I started my research into its faults with arithmetic - it's given me some pretty laughable code solutions

[shadow marsh]

well, the piece of code it gave me actually worked better than expected.

[foggy osprey]

Try GitHub Copilot :D

You can ask it to suggest code by simply writing a comment containing what you want it to do

[shadow marsh]

As if lol. Gonna try that

Thanks for the tip!

[azure stratus]

Would also second Copilot, but definitely only for personal projects. There's a bit of unknown liability with using Copilot for commerical use or otherwise cause of the data set being a lot of other users' code

[shadow marsh]

Well, I only code for personal use / little communities... nothing to sell or for bread public

[azure stratus]

Oh yeah for sure, definitely leverage it where possible

[azure stratus]

Am I the only one here absolutely perplexed by Entity Relationship Diagrams?

I could probably plan my SQL a lot better, but I swear I get to participation constraints and I get lost

[foggy osprey]

My employer is paying for everyone's Copilot license, and actively encouraging everyone to use it haha

afaik there won't be any real issues, as long as you of course check what the suggested snippet does

[azure stratus]

I'd be skeptical personally - just as I wouldn't generate assignments from chatgpt. Twofold because some of the code it generates is downright awful

[foggy osprey]

The tool is only as effective as the skillfulness of the hands that wields it ^^

Of course you gotta read though and verify what an AI spits out

Whether it works or not, but also if it's efficient or not

I've been using Copilot since the day public beta started, and i love it. But of course you never just use any suggested snippet without looking at it

[azure stratus]

My research focuses on composite logic which hopefully will end up providing some insight into why it sucks sometimes lol

The current state of GPT is that it sucks at nested math in a zero-shot environment, which I'm hoping to extend to things like relative clauses in linguistics and nested queries in things like SQL grammar generation

Otherwise though it's been pretty helpful with fairly basic solutions, I just avoid it for safety in commercial or team environments

[cinder spear]

copilot/chatGPT is to programmers what calculators are to mathematicians... useful tools that still contain flaws and limitations, but very powerful in the right hands

[mint hawk]

Does anyone know if you send a Dream booth fine tuning request through the stable diffusion api for a pre-built model, if the pre-built model itself gets fine tuned? or if you get a new model built on the pre-built model which gets fine tuned?

[mint hawk]

solved

[azure stratus]

New language model dropped

https://arxiv.org/pdf/2306.02707.pdf, looks neat

It may or may not be making my research irrelevant, I'll have to read into it's arithmetic performance

Well it appears it struggles on things like geometry, I guess I'll have to feed it my datasets if/when I get my hands on it

[cinder kayak]

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZGJQb32kt/

@shadow marsh

[shadow marsh]

LMFAO

kinda yeh

[ember canyon]

Any one used a cPanel server to run a Django app ?
What is the best way to host the sqlite3 db for my app so it is secure

[foggy gate]

Store the SQLite database file outside the web root directory to prevent unauthorized access. Place it in a directory that is not accessible through the web server. SQLite is not typically recommended for production environments due to its limitations in terms of scalability. However, if you expect significant traffic or have multiple users accessing the database simultaneously, I recommend moving your database to MySQL or PostgreSQL

[ember canyon]

so if I use a mysql database in the cpanel is it safe since thats an option instead of storing it locally next to the site files?

[ashen lagoon]

am looking for a coustm discord bot for our vtc discord any suggetion

[foggy gate]

Basically, yes. It is already configured for you and all you have to do is only to connect your application to the mysql server. However, you need to secure your application too.

[azure fox]

What will the bot do? How will it be hosted? Are you willing to pay? Asking for a bot without context doesn’t help anyone.

[azure stratus]

https://devblogs.microsoft.com/typescript/announcing-typescript-5-2-beta/

[supple shard]

Anyone used Jquery? Got some super simple code thats being fucky for no reason

const r = { success: true, message: 'Awesome message!' }
        
$('#some-element').attr('class', 'msg-' + (r.succcess ? 'success' : 'error'));

For whatever reason, the ternary is evaluating to false, and thus assigning class="msg-error"

Yet if I console.log out r.success, right there within the parentheses, I get true, so not a scoping issue.

I'm scratching my head wondering "wth"

Is jquery bugged or something?

[azure stratus]

Does it have anything to do with the triple c in success?

Success vs. succcess

[supple shard]

Dunno if I'm blind or just dyslexic but I dont see any triple "c" characters 👀

omg

nvm I see it now

[azure stratus]

[supple shard]

fawken ell

[azure stratus]

Sometimes you just need another pair of eyes

[supple shard]

Cheers mate, you're a legend. So embarrasing for me lol 😳

[cinder kayak]

[azure stratus]

Never embarrassing - I once spent 3 days debugging for the same reason

[supple shard]

happens to the best of us 😔

[cinder kayak]

Lol, almost laughed

[lilac aurora]

That were so fun, that I forgot to laugh

[azure stratus]

My dad owns TMP he'll ban you

[random tapir]

I once spent 6 days debugging because I entered the character length wrong

[azure stratus]

Yep yep been there

Or the numerous times I've used .getElementById and supplied a nonexistent id

[random tapir]

rip

my biggest mistake was declaring a variable of type integer and putting a number with comma ☠️

[cinder kayak]

Imagine making mistakes

[random tapir]

🤨🤨

[azure stratus]

This has to be singlehandedly one of the handiest pieces of code I have

[patent gorge]

Hi

[patent gorge]

My dad😔

[cinder kayak]

Didn’t mean that, but if you say so

[patent gorge]

😔

[foggy osprey]

https://nativephp.com/ so this project released their first alpha version today

It's very..uhh... interesting?

[graceful belfry]

The heck is that

[azure stratus]

Yuck PHP

Having to learn PHP was probably the most interesting use of my time for a semester

I genuinely enjoyed learning Scheme/Lisp and Prolog more than PHP

[foggy osprey]

What version were you taught?

There's a biiiig difference between using old and new standards/features

[foggy osprey]

A "library" that allows you to build Electron applications with PHP, while allowing it to run fully self-sufficient on the end user's machine (e.g. without any remote API/DB) :D

[azure stratus]

Nothing old, probably the newest version

Just reaaaally don't like it

[foggy osprey]

Yaa but in new versions you can still use old practices and features haha. From what I noticed in my time in college (studied software development), my teachers only knew old coding standards and practices, thus teaching students nothing good xd

[azure stratus]

I'm in software dev at my uni as one of my concentrations but we're really limited to one class that touches on PHP, a lot of our other stuff is just systems level stuff

A lot of it is theory too, like I have a pretty good idea of how to break apart file systems, storage, memory management etc. right down to the bare metal but not a lot of time actually implementing stuff

Maybe it's just lack of exposure but I've always defaulted to HTML when and where possible

[foggy osprey]

You should check out a framework instead of writing pure PHP. Makes stuff easier and a lot more fun, since you will then have a solid foundation of common features that you can use

[azure stratus]

Next time I need to I'll probably try it out, I've been throwing my time into Svelte and HTMX as well lately

[foggy osprey]

If you wanna try out a PHP framework, laravel has a really good official bootcamp that they recently released. It takes about a few hours at most, and showcases the most important features https://bootcamp.laravel.com/

It offers Vue and React too in the bootcamp if you're into that kinda stuff

[azure stratus]

React... that's another scary one lmao

[foggy osprey]

[graceful belfry]

Oooo

[azure stratus]

Only part that irks me about that is Electron

[violet copper]

Now if it was Tauri 😏

[foggy osprey]

i would argue that Electron is way more commonly used by (big) companies haha

[violet copper]

Oh for sure more popular

Tauri is gaining popularity due to it's advantages over Electron tho

[azure stratus]

Commonly used, sure, but efficient? Not in the slightest

To that end, ditto on the Tauri comment

Exhibit A: Discord

[cinder spear]

Our launcher is built on Electron 🙂

[azure stratus]

For smaller scale stuff like that I'd think it to be fine

But as projects scale the scales tip a bit

[mint hawk]

my favourite language to code in is english

[violet copper]

Tauri still doesn't have all the features needed yet, Viva are currently waiting for a few on the roadmap before our Tracker is finished in Tauri

Currently test running a new tracker in Electron tho

[cinder spear]

the thing about electron is that the dev experience is really good and the performance is good enough for the vast majority of use-cases

[agile frigate]

Hello, Is there any recruitment for the developer team? What are the conditions, if any, or where can I reach them?

[cinder kayak]

You need to be a Staff Member before you can apply for the Development Role. You can not become Developer from the Player role.

[cinder spear]

We do review open applications via the feedback system occasionally, but it is difficult to accept to a volunteer position that requires a lot of trust without building the trust separately first.

[agile frigate]

related to the department I graduated from and there are areas of interest that I dealt with before in the form of Zbrush, Blender, 3ds max, unity3d C++ C# Python, javascript, etc., I didn't know the requirement to be a team member before. If you look at my resume (if you want), you can see what I've done on linkedin on github.

[cinder kayak]

Well from what I know, you have to be a Staff. It’s possible that it changed

[agile frigate]

Ok thank u for informations 😄

[violet tulip]

hey Devs @ TMP, API responses are cached? if yes, for how long? I've added roles to the company (id 24) but they aren't returned in vtc/{id}/roles endpoint
and i've spotted a bug in the TMP API Client v2, the CompanyRole.order could be null, will open a PR for that

oh finally the cache is gone.. reordering roles, null on Owner role has been changed to 0

[cinder spear]

the API returns cache-control header indicating cache duration

[inland wedge]

Hello guys, is there any developer who can teach ets2 SDK in C#?

[azure fox]

Teach? Probably, not. There’re lots of GitHub repos built on the SDK, though. Exploring some of them might give you a better idea of how things work. Also, some indication of your intended use of the SDK would be useful.

[zinc yoke]

@dire mist hello im sorry for taging you i just wanted to ask do you know a guy named MakkaPakka known as Metaloid?

i remember he like 2 years ago randomly gifted me a dlc and i was so happy and i want to thank him again but i lost contact

[reef crane]

https://tenor.com/view/the-night-garden-makka-pakka-night-garden-makka-pakka-dance-makka-pakka-song-gif-20852711

[zinc yoke]

he was also called AUSSIE SPOOKY

are you sure?

[ember canyon]

thats not something developers should do, just patinelty wait for an answer on your ticket

[uneven nimbus]

Starting software developing soon at college 😅

[wet kite]

Good luck!

[toxic hornet]

It’ll take some time for your ticket to be answered but please do not ask here or in #support and be patient until your ticket gets answered.

[azure stratus]

Good luck!! Message me if you ever need help on the academia side of things, whether it's adjustments or just college life in general

Going into my 3rd year of Software Eng / AI and I can confidently say you'll see some high highs and low lows

[uneven nimbus]

I’ve have pretty much no experience with software developing I didn’t know what path I wanted to take so and with little time left I was forced to make this decision so I hope I will enjoy my study years and if I don’t I’ll change my study the next year. Also thank you 🙏🏻

[azure stratus]

First semester is absolutely pivotal for that - I used to be a pre-law major, and I took a gamble on switching. It's sometimes a great move but just do your research and you'll be fine! If you're interested in software, you'll love it, but it can definitely get difficult if you don't gel with the content

[ember canyon]

i went for computer science

[uneven nimbus]

Didn’t have much time for research but I’m sure it’ll go fine (I hope)

[wet kite]

we're doing similar courses 😄 I'm doing software eng for Ai & Cloud

[azure stratus]

Right on!! AI is more of my research concentration (my current research is in natural language processing & prompt optimization) but software eng still has some neat classes so I went for both additional concentrations

Cloud computing and engineering is a part of our SE concentration but we have no dedicated program for it

The plan is to finish my BSc and then immediately apply to my PhD, be an ultra hip and young prof at 26 years old

[wet kite]

I'll probs go down a similar route tbh. Although I haven't branched out into it yet, it will defo be what I choose to focus no when the time comes around. Which I hope is this year 1st year was general software eng, game dev and mobile dev

[wet kite]

that's gonna be a lot of work! Hopefully it works out for you 🙂

I also haven't decided about a PhD yet but will probably do my masters

[azure stratus]

Oh it's def a fair bit of work, but I've structured my 4th year to be a research year (only 3 courses when a usual load is 10), gotta be able to compete with Masters applicants

We have a really good emerging AI team here, we're working pretty heavily with MIT

[wet kite]

meanwhile over here my Uni is only starting to adopt Ai R&D :/

starting this year they've added an Ai & robotics course which would probably be really good but at the same time probably take a couple years to get it running at it's full potential

atm the main thing they're focused on is AR which in itself is really intriguing

[azure stratus]

We have like 2 active AI courses, a mandatory Intro to AI / Heuristics and Intro to NLP which is also a Masters course

My supervisor and the 3 of us under his direct supervision are really spearheading the effort to adopt it more in the dept

[wet kite]

I'm surprised most places aren't pushing Ai atm especially with the whole boom in Ai development over the past year

it's definitely going to be and almost is, a major part in all large scale tech companies

[azure stratus]

Ultimately whether we like it or not it's still in its infancy. In the same way that a load of banks still use things like fortran and cobol, people need time to fully trust and work their way through a system like AI

The metaphor I was told is that AI is like a completely dark cave, so no matter where you go you're finding something new right now. We need to see more of that cave before we can harvest it as a primary fix-all to all of our tech

[lament yarrow]

Hello everyone! I am a video editor, and a senior modeler, so if you need are in need of a nice and friendly driver, AND developer, DM me!!

[mild adder]

Hello guys, don't know if it has been discussed yet but why would SCS create a different build for the VR versions of the game and not make it asymetric on the main build ? I would imagine the VR stuff would only affect the camera/resolution and UI ?

It bother me so much that VR is not an option when it comes to TMP and I don't really have insights on why they're doing it like this.
(posting in this channel because I want technical insights on the matter)

It's not even like there was some kind of model/animations to sync and broadcast to everyone, it's literaly just camera

[azure stratus]

My best guess would be an attempt at optimization, but I'm clueless when it comes to graphics

[cinder spear]

adding a second camera for a second display output isn't as simple as "only affect the camera"

[floral mist]

if it was oficially supported, SCS needs to do Testing and QC for VR aside the normal Testing/QC. And from the hardware survey (Devs have a special hardware survery overview iirc, unlike the public Steam Hardware Survey) on Steam, SCS may very well know how many gamers have a PC that's capable of running ETS2 in VR with a decent experience and how many of them even have a VR Headset (although numbers may be inaccurate due to the headsets not being connected all the time).
And since we do not have VR support, I assume that the number of players with VR gear is quite low, so low that an official implementation is not worth to support. (Support means also Mail/Ticket support)

[narrow cove]

Hello. Is there any API that provides the full name of the server a playerID is connected to?

[wet kite]

TruckyApp's API should work for ya

https://api.truckyapp.com/docs/#api-Trucky_Map-GetV3MapOnlinePlayeridPlayerid

[twin ermine]

You are admeeeeeeen. You are supposed to be able to see everything

[narrow cove]

How could I've missed that. Thanks

[naive lynx]

scania rjl mod

[shadow marsh]

What has that to do with development?

[quartz moth]

https://laravel.com/docs/10.x/folio just had it's first stable release, quite interesting for simple pages, however I don't really see the appeal in it

[cinder spear]

as a lover of filesystem based routing I really like the look of that

[quartz moth]

I can see why it works for something like NuxtJS where the logic and template are in the same file, but for laravel it just seems like it won't scale well, or work that well if you're trying to query multiple things to hydrate your blade file

[cinder spear]

seems closer to old-style php where you might include common logic from other files in the template file

[quartz moth]

PHP doesn't need to go back in time

[cinder spear]

there's a lot of value in simplicity and hiding complexity does not remove it or the need to understand it

[fiery socket]

🙂

may or may not have been me

[shadow marsh]

He wanted to fix legacy codebase.

Me:

[stuck yoke]

hello there does TMP API provides OAuth with Truckersmp account? cuz i didnt see any reference in api docs

[ember canyon]

unfortunately not

[stuck yoke]

uh

[quartz moth]

You could use steam oauth and then fetch the TruckersMP account via the steam ID, if you wish to have that kind of guaranteed relation

[ember canyon]

forgot to reply

[violet tulip]

hey, maybe someone can help me with regex: i'm trying to extract data from an html field
Let's say i have this <x-(.*) field="(.*)">(.*)<\/x-(.*)> trying to extract from a string like this <x-editable field="name" ondblclick="this.parentNode.removeChild(this)">{{ $borrower->tranche }}</x-editable> using with preg_replace <x-bvi::editor.$1 field="$2" :editMode="true}">$3</x-bvi::editor.$1>
The problem with the current regex is that it doesnt stop at the field attribute value but continue taking also the dblclick part.
Someone can help fixing this?
the final substitution works, actually but i need to run it also with a preg_match_all extracting only the field attribute value
playground on Regex101: https://regex101.com/r/Vuv3rw/1

[cinder spear]

is there a reason you can't use a proper html parser? regex is kind of a hammer for a screw there

[violet tulip]

it's another possibility yes, but i preferred to go with a regular expression (which i've fixed meanwhile, helped from someone else)

[clever stag]

Ouch

[shadow marsh]

And exactly what has anything of that context with development?

[winter barn]

ı dont understand

why not opened the my ban

[shadow marsh]

That. Has. Nothing. To. Do. With. DEVELOPMENT. Appeal it under https://truckersmp.com/appeal

[winter barn]

ok

[ember canyon]

ghostping

[uneven nimbus]

Eh he might develop sadness bc of his ban

[ember canyon]

how to be admin 🔥

[uneven nimbus]

chat gpt

[ember canyon]

https://truckersmp.com/kb/27 🗣️ 💯 🔥

[wet kite]

Currently making a bot which uses the TMP API and I found a limitation with the news post section of it. Using the API I only have access to public news posts (which is to be expected) however I can't access "member only" news posts (which is also to be expected). However, does anyone know of a way I might be able to get around the "member only" barrier?

[quartz moth]

Not really, if the functionality isn't provided via the API, then I guess it isn't officially supported

[azure stratus]

^^, I can't imagine there'd be any logical way to access private data via a public api

[ember canyon]

funny enough its possible to fetch member-only events

(pls dont remove that feature)

[wet kite]

really? o.0

I tried testing it but I can't seem to get it to work

[ember canyon]

https://truckersmp.com/events/17804-dulcis-logistics|-private-convoy#20
https://api.truckersmp.com/v2/events/17804

wat is this

[azure stratus]

Mfw members only API not members only

[wet kite]

that's a bug I reckon bc if you use URL https://api.truckersmp.com/v2/vtc/{id}/events/{event_id} it shows nothing kekw

https://api.truckersmp.com/v2/events/17825
https://api.truckersmp.com/v2/vtc/57695/events/17825

[ember canyon]

useful bug

[wet kite]

agreed

[foggy osprey]

I opensourced (as public archives) some old codebases from PhoenixVTC that I made back in the day (such as the drivershub, etc).. https://github.com/iDiegoNL?tab=repositories&q=phoenix

There's some pretty cool stuff in there, if anyone needs some inspiration for their VTC

[uneven nimbus]

Have quite some trouble understanding how to code with HTML and CSS 😅

[summer gyro]

well i will have a nice look at this

😉

[foggy osprey]

haha np, have fun. Felt like this was a better idea than just letting it go to waste :)

It's not meant to be straight up copy-pasted or used as-is, and there's probably a few issues since the projects haven't been touched in over a year.

[summer gyro]

would be a good thing for rcs that

[foggy osprey]

rcs?

[summer gyro]

yea rcs trucking vtc

[foggy osprey]

ah, i thought you meant https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rich_Communication_Services lmao

[summer gyro]

php is will be complicated for me

[foggy osprey]

feel free to use parts as inspiration if you're thinking "hmm, how should i solve this", but please don't use a whole project as-is :) I will add an open-source license if it gets misused

Edit: the projects are now licensed under GPL-3.0

[summer gyro]

yeah that is understandable

ill have a look at it tho

[ember canyon]

the future is here lads https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BsnCpESUEqM

[ember canyon]

ay lads

[ember canyon]

nooo

why are private events completely hidden on api now

awful update

[cinder kayak]

Maybe because they’re private

[ember canyon]

well what if i want to get private events of my vtc

shouldn't be private for me innit

there are lot more api flaws out there that would be more useful to fix than this

prime example: https://i.proxied.host/u/TxQtP5.png https://i.proxied.host/u/WoGwAK.png

and it's been like that for quite some time

[cinder spear]

are you referring to the array vs object?

[ember canyon]

i am

[cinder spear]

it's a side-effect of PHP where they're the same thing

[ember canyon]

[cinder spear]

[ember canyon]

didnt expect php to be that bad

[tardy smelt]

What's the endpoints?

[violet tulip]

PHP associative Array magic

[ember canyon]

https://api.truckersmp.com/v2/events/17557 and https://api.truckersmp.com/v2/events/16748

[tardy smelt]

I see, it's using the same code so it's just a behavior of PHP like 3v says. If we change it, it might break people code.

[ember canyon]

the private event change also broke some code icl

[tardy smelt]

It was broken initially we just fixed it. It should have never been publicly accessible

[cinder spear]

making resources inaccessible with the existing error format isn't a breaking change, unlike the change of types returned from the api

[ember canyon]

sooner or later it'd have to be fixed

[tardy smelt]

If you guys are interested
https://truckersmp.com/recruitment

[shadow marsh]

As much as I would like to apply, I would be kind of useless

[summer gyro]

I would apply if I could..

[ember canyon]

i was suggested to apply

[summer gyro]

Might as well have a go

[ember canyon]

i have a ban 1 mo ago

[summer gyro]

Ye mine was 7 month ago

So annoying this 12 month thing

[ember canyon]

n my other ban expires on 2nd oct

if not this ban i couldve applied

[summer gyro]

Ohh

🤦‍♀️

[cinder kayak]

Good luck finding new colleagues

[shadow marsh]

Let's say so, if they'd need java devs, then I can apply

[cinder kayak]

[tardy smelt]

Ewwww Java is stinky

[cinder kayak]

Laravel is stinky

[tardy smelt]

Pure Java vs Laravel I would stay with Laravel

[shadow marsh]

Tell that the minecraft devs back then only learned java bc of minecraft and now I even code bots in it and other stuff

But for me Java > any other lang

[cinder kayak]

PHP > any other language

[shadow marsh]

tbf, I wish I could understand the web dev languages like php, js, css, html and so on... would make my life essentially more easy

[cinder kayak]

Well, I wish I'd understand Laravel and JS better, then I may try and transfer to Web-Dev... But since I don't, I'll stick with GM

[shadow marsh]

Well, I learn french - can't learn a whole package of coding languages additionally to that

[cinder kayak]

You could, technically... I wouldn't either

[shadow marsh]

I could, yeah - but I don't want to overload me 😄

[ember canyon]

js >

w bun

[faint loom]

You can not apply because you have been banned in past 12 months.

Cool! The person who got me banned edited the evidence in such a way that the fault was on my side from which she provoked all the time by driving in front of the hood and braking.

And now I can't apply....

[shadow marsh]

Yeaaah, it's always never the actual user's fault ^^

[faint loom]

okay I made a maneuver inattentively causing another driver to fall off the road because I misjudged the distance in the mirrors but the video was cut off and not everything was shown on it....

[shadow marsh]

Knew it ^^

[ember canyon]

I have no experience with PHP would have applied

Have experience with only HTML, CSS, Flask, Django and js

[uneven nimbus]

I have no experience can’t even understand HTML and CSS

[ember canyon]

html css is ew

react w tailwind is nice

[uneven nimbus]

first week of software developer in college so we are still at basics

[ember canyon]

im a self learner

[azure stratus]

Wish I had the time + PHP knowledge, or otherwise I would have applied

It's the only real area I'm lacking

Plus it doesn't help to be working 3 jobs and taking 120% courseload

[fresh scaffold]

Thank god I switched to laravel. What a miracle 🙏

[opal arch]

C++ > any other language

[azure stratus]

Correct language for your necessary implementation > any other language

[mint hawk]

English is the best language to code in

[mossy cloud]

https://tenor.com/view/silence-i-will-kill-you-silence-silence-keel-you-silence-will-keel-you-you-should-be-silent-gif-18625918

Laravel is awesome

[pulsar jungle]

And with Inertiajs and vue added, it gets even better

[fresh scaffold]

^ facts

hey i mean livewire is still amazing

[humble carbon]

100%

[pulsar jungle]

Speaking of Livewire, Filamentphp is a nice addon to Laravel

[mossy cloud]

Ah that looks neat, thanks for pointing it out

[pulsar jungle]

No problem, it's a nice addon to use as an admin panel

[mossy cloud]

I like the look of the tables, I currently use JS DataTables for my hobby projects which I'm looking to replace

[pulsar jungle]

I'm still on v2 of Filament, so can't speak of how it looks on v3
But overall, yeah, they do look nice. It's using Tailwind if I'm not mistaken

[mossy cloud]

Yeah, I'm on V3 myself so I might give it a try sometime and let you know 🙂

[pulsar jungle]

Yes, that would be nice 😄

[violet tulip]

thumbs up for Filament

[foggy osprey]

v3 is awesome :) been using it since the beta, can recommend upgrading

upgrading to Livewire v3 will also give you some nice new features & improvements

[pulsar jungle]

Good to know. Just need to upgrade to Laravel 10 first before I can get around to upgrading Filament, still on v9 atm

[mossy cloud]

Don't rush to upgrade just because, as long as you're on top of security, being on the bleeding edge in production isn't the best way to proceed imo

[pulsar jungle]

Yeah, true

[violet tulip]

use Shift, for how much it costs, worth it

[pulsar jungle]

Yeah, have not used any of their paid ones, but have used a few shifts that were free

[violet tulip]

i've used a couple of time the paid ones, 19 eur for a shift with a comple PR upgrade worth my time 🙂

[pulsar jungle]

Fair enough

[elfin elm]

Do someone created an external button box with Arduino or other boards? I need help pls dm me

[tardy smelt]

What you don't like about DataTables?

[mossy cloud]

I find they can be a pain to be responsive, I know there's an extention for it but they don't always play ball for me

[narrow cove]

If you don't need too complicated things you can use an USB Joystick circuit board. It's plug and play (generic joystick controller) and you get 12 inputs.

[azure stratus]

Gonna learn rust this weekend

Then finally learn Python

Cause I have to for research work

[tardy smelt]

I'm using a Laravel plugin for Datatables and it work pretty good overall. Much cleaner than doing everything manually

https://yajrabox.com/docs/laravel-datatables/10.0

[mossy cloud]

Oh thanks 🙂 I'll check it out

[elfin elm]

Perfect thx

[tame flax]

pls add persian languge

[cinder kayak]

#1140790119918473387

[tame flax]

ican't send msg

[cinder kayak]

Go to #info and follow the steps to verify yourself first

[tame flax]

ok

[weak flax]

I dont get the api, I did this https://api.truckersmp.com/v2/vtc/51115/member/398072

it says 404? but the ids are perfectly fine?

or I mean page not found

but then why is it in the api docs

[mossy cloud]

I've just checked as well, it does seem to be correct

It's not mentioned in the documentation so this is only an educated guess without being told otherwise, but could it be because his VTC history is private?

[weak flax]

no

I did my own ID right now and I am pretty sure it is the api?

[cinder spear]

it uses member id, not the member's user id

you can see the member IDs in the /vtc/{id}/members endpoint

[weak flax]

ohhh

thanks

[ember canyon]

out of interest what are the best courses to learn:

• Linux admin
• Nginix basics, error handling...etc

[mossy cloud]

I would do a free trial of LinkedIn learning, and look there 🙂

It also wouldn't be wrong to buy a cheap VPS and just play around and break stuff 🙂 That way you can self-learn before working on anything important 🙂

[shadow marsh]

Or setting up a local VM based on Linux.

[violet tulip]

or docker, which is even better nowadays, learning nginx on docker is useful

[violet tulip]

fyi, Patreon broke their webhook implementation, since yesterday everyone stopped to receive updates

[opal arch]

I am not even surprised. Their API and webhooks are the worst third-party integration to ever exist.

[violet tulip]

looks like they changed the encoding from utf-8 to Unicode (?????) so every webhook call or verification is failing...

[woeful umbra]

is anyone here good at making skins but for free tho.. i dont have that much money so please dm me if u can make i skin for me

its not a hard skin to make if ur experienced

[shadow marsh]

And exactly what has that to do with development?

[woeful umbra]

oh its development im so sorry

[shadow marsh]

A skin for ETS2/ATS is not development, rather modding.

[ember canyon]

is there a collection of TMP logo SVGs by any chance?

[shut remnant]

how do i get distance between two places?

[shadow marsh]

Elaborate please.

[shut remnant]

sorry, if a starting place and company is given and destination and company is given i need to get the distance between them through roads, if possible ferry distance and price too

[shut remnant]

is this even possible?

[ember canyon]

i don't think so

unless you want to make your own ets2 map navigation, or somehow inject into the game and do stuff there

[shut remnant]

if i do that i wont be able to play in truckersmp?

i mean truckersmp dont support other mods

[ember canyon]

mod won't do that i don't think

it'd be much more complicated

why do you need it?

[shut remnant]

i am trying to make a mobile app that shows every stuff about jobs and thing so i can control those things by mobile phone or tablet

for example to while creating a new job it shows distance, job earning

so for that job earning part is done but the distance 🥲

[ember canyon]

ooh on mobile

you'd have to recreate game's map navigator there

[shut remnant]

okay, where can i look for game's current navigators code or anything like that? i mean just place to look for it? I am little new to these sorry 😓

[ember canyon]

doubt it's source is publicly available

[shut remnant]

okay for just distance i can extract it from truckersmp dispatcher

[scenic bone]

so uh

how do I show my work

can't show images

[ember canyon]

verify yourself #info message

[deft atlas]

#info I think, bottom message

[ember canyon]

bottom message is the image

[deft atlas]

😦

[scenic bone]

I've been trying concepts recently

VtvStudio is not a registered company btw

I also made a high poly car a few months ago

[ember canyon]

[scenic bone]

seems like most people here are web developers

[mossy cloud]

Nice models 🙂

You may all enjoy this 😂 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PivpCKEiQOQ

[scenic bone]

C++ is good for game development, not so sure about others

It's also quite difficult to learn

Template error messages

Exception specifiers

Visual destructors

[languid glade]

With C too

[azure stratus]

Rust >>>

[mystic basin]

Someone able to help me??

I cant launch my truckersmp