irl-trucking

[elder roost]

This is the way. Get it rite first time

Elaborate

Feel free to DM

[pseudo bone]

Trying to keep the companys workmanship up 😎

[elder roost]

Rather work slow safe and right then fast dangerous and wrong.. take it from an owner OP

[pseudo bone]

that's hes own fault and thing to do? No??

[elder roost]

The wat😂

[pseudo bone]

lazy 💩

[elder roost]

Always the old dogs...

[pseudo bone]

reasonable crashout, i'd to the same 🫡

[elder roost]

Oh yea gotcha 32m

What did he even expect you to do

29??

30+30 pallet?

Agreed

That should work out to way more than 29?
29 axle to axle?

We do body to body in Sweden😅

Cant be right

Must be 29 first to last axle

[pseudo bone]

one of my biggest crashouts was few years back before i even had my drivers licenses B, C and CE... i was (on-the-job training) shits at school , the bus driver came to ask me for the wiper blades, I told him where they were and I got them for him.. then and he also asked if I could install them and I said I had more important things to do than change the wipers... then the f@t fk went upstairs to tell the manager and he came to tell me to go change the wipers now, and the car I was working on was supposed to leave in 15 minutes and I had the entire engine room dismantled on the floo, I can say that tools flew and few CURSE WORDS and got the first warning 😂

[formal minnow]

[formal minnow]

I got 2 warnings in one meeting

[elder roost]

This things 24.6..

[formal minnow]

[elder roost]

Now way trailer Dolly trailer only works out to 29??

[formal minnow]

I eas getting one and suddenly it was 2

[pseudo bone]

long story short, I don't miss those times. Now its fun because i do the same to then older guys at the companys repair shop as the youngest truckdriver😂 😂 😂 😂 they must hate me so much but i don't care

[formal minnow]

[elder roost]

Funny guy

[pseudo bone]

but like how dumb and armless you have to be if you cannot change own wipers LIKE GOD DAMN

[formal minnow]

Do they not literally just slide off

[elder roost]

Thats amazing.

[formal minnow]

Once u hit a certain angle

[pseudo bone]

yeah

[elder roost]

I mean would'nt wanna take it between the trees but still

[formal minnow]

Lol

[elder roost]

Drawbar must add atleast 1.5

[formal minnow]

Dolly maybe 1,5 yeah

[lean oracle]

i mean my work if im connecting trailer i drop suspension go under if coworker there theyll maybe give signals so i dont needda get out to like look to raise suspension n shit, same way goes the other way, some dont aka they dont get help either

[elder roost]

Mine adds 2.5.. but its a side tipper😅

[lean oracle]

plenty old guys be stubborn

plenty who aint

[formal minnow]

Truck sodetip trailer via ass?

[elder roost]

Nope

[elder roost]

Nooo

Tip to side only both truck and trailer

Look at the hinges

[elder roost]

Google flisbil

[formal minnow]

I like this one charter for us if hes doing trailer doors if i come into dock he opens my liftgate

[elder roost]

Exept i also have doors in the ass

[formal minnow]

No

[lean oracle]

yep, i mean my office dependin on just comes out of their own to help ya know, but the favors returned, but also sometimes cause we have it be cramped sometimes if theres a few 40ft chassis next to each other but too close cant raise legs

so coworker comes n ask hey can u spot me as there be a truck hooked to the one next to it for instance, so reverse spot him , hook the red pull out n well just together get it hooked

[elder roost]

Your loss

[lean oracle]

but some other time we meet up at random at site im signing in and theyll unhook your container for instance]

same here

[formal minnow]

My company coworkers cry when u block the row tractor units park

[lean oracle]

we all work alone and are self sufficient but there is a diff between asking and telling someone to complain

[pseudo bone]

Everything expect driving gravel trucks sounds so complicated to my ears.. i love driving my dear casette truck

[formal minnow]

Yet they take their tractor u nits when those spots arent full and block spaces rigids park

[elder roost]

Why would'nt they...

[formal minnow]

Im all the way down the side of building now as someone parked a 40 ft container where our spot is

[lean oracle]

nothing complicated, if im in just shunts i dont disconnect for weeks on ends

[formal minnow]

Because 9/10 times u park there cuz every orher spots full

[lean oracle]

might unhook to clean, all i do is change the layout for containers n tighten 4bolts

[pseudo bone]

you'll be welcome to company where i am 🫣

ohh shiet, that far away.. i've seen some Mäkeläs truck here in Vantaa etc

[formal minnow]

Vantaa sucks

[pseudo bone]

i mean (if) you start driving gravel truck / casette maybe better to move closer to Helsinki.. many in Oulu have brought trucks to closer in the hope of work

[pseudo bone]

Seems fine place.. all thought always just driving Kehä 3 fast as possible to get out of there

[void crag]

Using a mobile phone while driving on a public road is really dangerous. We do not encourage dangerous driving in our community. Please be careful when sharing similar pictures as this goes against our #discord-rules.
2.3. Channel descriptions constitute as part of the Discord rules.
Thank you for understanding.

[pseudo bone]

Photo was 99% taken with gopro in headband

might be better to call visit to Specsavers

[formal minnow]

People are genuinely using gopros and it still gets deleted

10/10

@jade tangle please make the noobs below u aware

So we can keep posting stuff

[fleet basin]

🤓

Yep

[formal minnow]

Everything is gopro

[fleet basin]

"using a mobile phone while driving on a puplic road if deemed unsafe" who says wot is safe and wot is not

And how you can prove some road is either private or puplic

[frozen trout]

The rules are big joke, how does it affect in anyones life if you take quick photo and send it later

[frozen trout]

They cant, they just delete it and keep silence after we try to defend our self

Because they dont have anything to prove

[fleet basin]

🤡

[frozen trout]

Exactly

[fleet basin]

Kinda sad

[jade tangle]

Feel free to create a feedback ticket at https://truckersmp.com/feedback/create towards Community Moderation Management if you believe they took the wrong action.
If you're really this pressed about an image being deleted you should really rethink your priorities in life.

[lean oracle]

am i glad all my pics are taken on the terminals, all are private roads, no rules apply

their signs are a suggestion

[frozen trout]

Helps a lot, surely

[jade tangle]

@ivory patrol you are also receiving a verbal warning for the following:
2.5. provoking

You may want to stop with that emote

[frozen trout]

Bloke be pushing

@ivory patrol

That nistipata boutta win this conversation

[lean oracle]

i do gotta say, the pictures are taken when we know its safe, sometimes when driving and it is not causing a danger, yet wreckless driving in #general gets ignored for 13and a half hrs and is "fine"

[jade tangle]

I have personally not seen that

[lean oracle]

well check modmail then

mods ignore that basicallyt when its in their screen

yet professional drivers whove taken plenty of test to see if theyre even fit to drive and got cleared medically and all get judged for taking a picture

as if we dont know how or what is safe and when

[jade tangle]

I don't make the rules

[frozen trout]

But you can be flexible

[formal minnow]

Well the fact if enough of ur pics get deleted

[lean oracle]

can confirm

[formal minnow]

Even if its a gopro or whatever used tk tske it

[lean oracle]

i am driving and scrolling trough the onboard checking things

or write my cmr

[formal minnow]

To the point you get a mute or ban its stupid yes

Time type faster slowman

Ill see whats left of this chat tomorrow imma go sleep 4 am alarm

[frozen trout]

You dont make them, but you can be the one who can be flexible with them, im pretty certain it doesn't effect your position as in community moderation leader at all, also the pictures what usually are taken here, are from Straight road, or similar and the weather is safe, so even if it wasn't in accordance with the rules, it's not that unsafe that you have to delete it.

[jade tangle]

I'm already flexible enough

If I was any more flexible, I'd be taking no action ever at all

[frozen trout]

Are you

Well i dont see it that way but i'll take it

Respect your opinion

But now, im out of this conversation

[lean oracle]

better than the 20min f driving and get adblue error go to mechanics

then again it got me a day off as no other trucks available

xd

[polar mica]

meeeeeeep

Noo, sadly not
Just some Truck spotting for now. But I‘m planning to make my truck license soon

[jade tangle]

In that case I have sadly had to remove the video

also smh

[polar mica]

oh i‘m sorry, didn‘t see the description on mobile

[jade tangle]

No worries

[pseudo bone]

Hes working. Discord moderator

[fickle ingot]

Well Scandinavia, but not in Balkans

Especialy in Romania

In Romania, how much the trailer can fit, that much you can go with, [ but you need to be carefull with the I.S.C.T.R ]

[regal smelt]

Rip gearbox

[pseudo bone]

Always breaking stuff

[formal minnow]

fix ur broken light pls

(i say this while my headlights been out for 2 weeks)

[daring sail]

easy fix

[formal minnow]

Well

maybe idk

problem for winter

soon itll be bright outside at 5 am

they burn out so quick cuz they are on constantly as soon as i turn on lights

as i cant just do drls with marlers etc

[queen brook]

@summer valve no fun

[deft sleet]

sail boat fuel... so wind?

LOL

[queen brook]

I had an fully loaded container too from Lahti to Vantaa

Jokes on you

Only trailer for rautakesko

13.1m so it was really tight

Had to raivopinkata

Yea, couldnt strap one down because then I cant open the side 😂

Heres hoping

[queen brook]

Midway coffee pause

3 more places to deliver

[lapis vector]

Clean Volvo.

[radiant turtle]

real

[queen brook]

@summer valve No more manual labour

[fickle ingot]

[lean oracle]

but u still gotta get out check if ur under it right and fold the legs back in n secure the box

[queen brook]

I am pretty clearly under it since I moved it away from the dock no?

[lean oracle]

yes, but i meant as u said its easy no more manual labor, but u still gotta do some.. just less than when loading

[lean oracle]

geez drop ur air suspension some on the trailer, lol

[fickle ingot]

Na it s alr i think xD

[fleet basin]

Winter

[queen brook]

Turku?

[fleet basin]

Vehmaa near Turku

[formal minnow]

[regal smelt]

Seagul

[fleet basin]

Night farm deliveries 😍

[rugged cape]

Sand truck couldn't have came any later 😂

[fleet basin]

😂

[copper aurora]

Will u ever buy scania?

[queen brook]

I dont have the funds

[copper aurora]

Wym

[lean oracle]

trucks are expensive

[pseudo bone]

This year’s first road department orders, ”carpet strokes” with clayish gravel, the amount of ”vittu, perkele and saatana’s”

The worst part started on the left side

[formal minnow]

accurate driver speaking moments

[copper aurora]

Sell tho volvo

[lean oracle]

u do realize that he works for a company

he doesnt own it

[pseudo bone]

the amount of power and electrical lines farther up that road where i left with trailers load..... it was chaotic.. i just couldn't tip the load like a blanket

[formal minnow]

They didnt bother to get the electrical company out to temporary lift them?

so u can atleast somewhat tip normal

[pseudo bone]

the road department guys they don't give a living 💩 about the enviroment. They just said I shouldn't run those cables down like the last driver did last year.

[regal comet]

what u worried for

the trees

?

[pseudo bone]

nah 😂

[regal comet]

i refuse delivery if there is so much as a branch sticking out on the road

[pseudo bone]

Well...

[regal comet]

well what

[pseudo bone]

well climb to the tree like a monkey, and take the branch out

as i wanted to take them powerlines out with my truck, but i didn't

[regal comet]

i told a farmer that he had a tree where the branches were sticking too much out on the road

he cut the whole tree down

[copper aurora]

I did not now that sry

[copper aurora]

Nice

[formal minnow]

fix ur light

[daring sail]

says u

[formal minnow]

yes

[daring sail]

go fix ur own light

[formal minnow]

no

my light dont affect the looks

his does

[queen brook]

Jacknife and shieet

[formal minnow]

Ew

No loading ramp?

[queen brook]

Nop

[wicked lodge]

Wrecker callout i had a few years ago. Black ice is not to be played with 😅

[formal minnow]

looks like he got the good end of it

not too bad

[regal comet]

rescued by a merc

[wicked lodge]

tbf i kinda hated the merc but it was the only non-flatbed heavy wrecker we had at the time

[queen brook]

@summer valve another day another tetris

[formal minnow]

thats no tetris

this wasnt that bad only like 5 pallets stacked

[queen brook]

Neither is that, you dont seem to have many 5m long plank bundles there

[formal minnow]

i dont have a pic anymore where i was filled to the brim with like 8 pallets unstacked

[queen brook]

Or 26m of stuff squeezed into 14m

[formal minnow]

this had some big boxes infront

i rarely get super long stuff

only on load for return usually

[queen brook]

I managed to fit everyrhing in the trailer gobless, 22m was counted but I stacked way more than that

[formal minnow]

no way thats 22m

100% your planners are like mine and measure those micro pallets as .4 loadmeter

once had 8 loadmeters

and it was like 20 of those and it just fit in like 3 europallets in space lol

[queen brook]

Theres 4 high in the front, tile pallets for the first 5m

Quite heavy that

[formal minnow]

Oh im sure

[stiff lodge]

is trucking hard

i need all the advice to start trucking

[queen brook]

Washe

[fleet basin]

[queen brook]

No

Last shift today before long free time off

[upper copper]

Loading old railroad tracks going to a scrap yard, cut up and melted to something different

[frail grove]

This week the first new Volvo went into service 👏🏻

[summer valve]

@queen brook

[regal comet]

retire that old volvo already

[summer valve]

Nah, it still works great. It's only 10 years old

[regal comet]

only

[summer valve]

Ye. It's a Volvo, not a Scania. It's still good for another 2-3 years

[magic magnet]

Clean!🔥

[ivory patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/scania-v8-trucker-drifting-gif-22976049

[upper copper]

Thx

[elder roost]

Took delivery of mine in January 😉

[daring sail]

Nice

[elder roost]

Ive argued with tsoi before.. hes a self proclaimed ubertrucker

Maybe if he was so great hes running his own company? Oh wait

[frail grove]

Nice

[elder roost]

In hindsight i wouldve went with a K motor instead of a TC..

[frail grove]

fair enough

[ivory patrol]

yeah he doesnt know what hes talking about

[elder roost]

His limited experience must be law? Or not

[ivory patrol]

You saying he has some kinda experience at all

[elder roost]

Ill glady invite @regal comet to compare company books.
Oh wait hes barely even an employee

[elder roost]

The fuel saving saving might be there.. Ive never owned a diesel before.. but the way it delivers power is odd to me coming from only driving LNG and K trucks..

Ks make power at any Rpm. LNG makes for great too range.. the TC feels half dead at any Rpm.. it might partially be because the new truck spends most of its time at 64 tones loaded with loose material while the old ones averaged around 40.. its hard to compare apples to oranges

Scania 660 delivery is the best Ive experienced tho. Wish it was economically reasonable to run a V8

[formal minnow]

it is

if you take diesel from other trucks

[regal comet]

yea dude I run a fortune 500 company on wallstreet

[elder roost]

😅😂😂😂

[elder roost]

Buddy

"i run a fortune 500"
"I refuse delivery hurr durr"
Reality check. Noone who drives a truck is making anywhere near millions (plural) annually.
I turnt around 350k euros last year with one truck working my nuts off. Only took about 70k as salary and margin payout. Got the new rig in January and my first employee February.

[regal comet]

who are you talking to

[elder roost]

You dimwit

[regal comet]

ok

[elder roost]

@ivory patrol ^^ 26 meters and 67 tonnes between the trees🥰

[queen brook]

wow u crazy man!!

[elder roost]

Loaded loam with an excavator at the break. Because they flipped their wheeloader and i was the only one willing to take a chance. 1.4k euros for about 5 hours of work😅🥰

[regal comet]

you want a medal?

[elder roost]

Wanna try my job?

Drive too fast and the sway will bash the rooflid in the trees. "Branches boo hoo"

Caught in 720P

[regal comet]

we do completely different things yet you are somehow trying to make an comparison

[elder roost]

You run a fortune 500 apparently 😂

[ivory patrol]

Moms spaghetti

[regal comet]

yea bro it’s listed on the stock exchange

investor meeting in Beijing next week

[elder roost]

Well then name of company?

Ding ding, no trucking company is on the F500

[regal comet]

mine is dude

[elder roost]

You do realise all F500 logistics companys are Logistics. Not trucking?

[regal comet]

just say you are jealous it’s okay

[queen brook]

damn, how are the stocks looking?

Are we going to the moon

Might pop in to invest

[elder roost]

Not slightly.. im living my best life with the best wife

[queen brook]

2 weeks in and this place already gives me ptsd

[elder roost]

Context please😘

[ivory patrol]

He goes there

[regal comet]

i will give you some insider info for a mcd giftcard and 5$

[elder roost]

They braindead?

[queen brook]

No we load ourselves

but the loads are ridicilous

40 something cubic meters of pallets, plank stacks etc

Its a job and a half to get it all to fit

[elder roost]

Do be like that some times

[ivory patrol]

Its nice when the load is big ah

[elder roost]

And it must fit!!
Try a Bauhaus load sometime😂

[queen brook]

The "I pray you will stay up"

[elder roost]

That dont look too bad

Get you tho.. sucks some times

[queen brook]

I dont have a pic of yesterdays load but that was a struggle

[ivory patrol]

Aint that hard bruh

[elder roost]

Yeee

[summer valve]

[elder roost]

😉🙃🙃

Get on my level

[ivory patrol]

Stop

[summer valve]

4.5 hours to load. Gotta love Pennala

[elder roost]

You dont like it?😂

[elder roost]

Hardware store bullshit?

[ivory patrol]

Gringe

[elder roost]

How its done💪

[queen brook]

yes

Yesterday I had a good 18m just in the truck box alone

Dont even want to imagine how much was in the trailer

[queen brook]

You use straps? Cringe

[elder roost]

😂 truth

Only sprap drywall and lumber

[queen brook]

Cant be bothered since the doors need to open

and strapping them to the floor is just a hassle

But I do like them easy

[elder roost]

I run sidetipper.. can only strap to the floor.. but must move out of the dock and open the side to do it..

[summer valve]

Chains would be optimal

[queen brook]

I had a good 2.5m tall tower of nippus yesterday

I named it the "Pennalan Pisa"

It did stay upright, somehow

[elder roost]

Chains are for machinery and the bedroom😉😅

[queen brook]

Cello, lumber and ET Listat all stacked together, one shower door on top

It was a sight to behold

[elder roost]

Typical hardware store bullshit 😂

[queen brook]

One small problem though, the place it was going to is a pump truck or whatever u call them unloading

[summer valve]

I had a huge pallet full of laatta once. Couldn't even lift it without the rear wheels lifting up

[queen brook]

so I had to get the forklift out and struggle for a good 30 minutes

Yeah they stack laatta and laminaatti pallets there... Always have to take them off

The shit forklifts cant lift

Although unloading 2 or even 3 tons with a pallet jack is not my cup of tea

since it has rubber wheels

[elder roost]

Ever unloaded with a rototilt excavator? Takes forever.. one pallet at a time

*i also suck at excavators

[deft sleet]

Imagine having to make up such stories to get truck clout. Absolute clown.

[ivory patrol]

Hes far away from god tier kulmapöytä

[deft sleet]

I had to google that. It's a desk?

[formal minnow]

Nah

I had a machine a while ago didnt strap it

Was more annoyed it wasnt charged so it was some fun getting it in via the rear as i didnt feel like opening the curtains

[formal minnow]

U never even send stuff here and calling people clown

U obv dont know the stupid form of humor and sarcasm we use here

[regal comet]

want a job in my company?

I need someone cleaning gold coated toilets

[ivory patrol]

Stupid indeed

[queen brook]

Working on a holy day is a sin

[formal minnow]

its not a holliday tho

[cobalt onyx]

For some it is tho

[rigid jolt]

Luckily I have someone picking up my load today, so I can relax at home.

[frozen trout]

Nice Aero

[ivory patrol]

It is

[elder roost]

Looks oldschool in some awesome way

[elder roost]

Who sells those lowbars?

[pseudo bone]

i had 3trips from "Helsinki" to "Forssa" (bit oily + asbest concrete) wheel loader driver laughed that he's not the only poor to work on Holydays, overall great day to cause disapproval

There was no need to get out of the truck, a rag was placed on the bottom of the both beds and tied up like a gift wrap 🎁 At the unloading end, the goods came down nicely in a lump. 🤗 🫡

[formal minnow]

So u didnt break it for once

[pseudo bone]

naah not yet, maybe monday will tell me the truth

Nostalgia photos, my dad took this photo end of 1980's

[queen brook]

RST Steel

[pseudo bone]

Good evening dear truckers

[queen brook]

Not bad for an inex virgin, 31m. 102 pallets and 4 trolleys, 56980kg

[pseudo bone]

1,5weeks ago i had to scratch my head twice in Espoo

[elder roost]

What did you do???

[pseudo bone]

Trailers, tailboard didn't close on last tip

i had to shovel a bit

[elder roost]

Relatable.. I had the side open on the E20 a few weeks back.. 5.5 tonnes of woodships on the road...

Locking cylinder internal leak..

[pseudo bone]

im always too lazy to go take a look, if closed or not then sometimes i go manually close it

or when connecting trailer back on

[elder roost]

Yup.. i once had the rooflid close a bit crooked.. was just gonna lift the lid and relid.. pushed the wrong button and opened the side 300m form the loading site😅

Only took like 20 min to clean up and reload tho

[pseudo bone]

last summer this took more than 20minutes to clean up, i was so over with this hobby, i said many cursewords that's all i can say

[elder roost]

Sometimes i wonder if i shouldve started some other business.. but this shits fun even when shit hits the fan honestly. Not the most profitable not safest job but atleast its fun.

[formal minnow]

lmao

[formal minnow]

This makes u become alcoholic in sauna

[pseudo bone]

yeah, that's true i´d never change any minute out of this job...

[elder roost]

Yup, and in hindsight the worst days are the most memorable

[pseudo bone]

i just said to cb-radio like "ohh that's how you do it"

[elder roost]

My friend today😅

[formal minnow]

wtf

[elder roost]

Somehow the outer drive was still tight and in good order

[pseudo bone]

my question is how? HOW he didn't feel that more earlier

[elder roost]

He did

[pseudo bone]

he did, but didn't

[elder roost]

They said screw it and drive it to the shop

[formal minnow]

so @elder roost your owner operator right

[elder roost]

Yup

[formal minnow]

how did u start all of a sudden

cuz u were employed before this right

[elder roost]

Loan against farmland

[formal minnow]

Do u not need certain licenses etc

to become a company owner

[elder roost]

Not a lot, my "trafiktillstånd" is through Alltransport so i dont have to have my own

[formal minnow]

here u must have niwo

wich is transport permit must go to school

[elder roost]

So i still drive for the same agency as before just my own truck

[formal minnow]

then u must go to school aswell or have done certain things trough school

to be classed as allowed

to have company

to be financially responsible

and some bs

[rapid warren]

In Austria its quite easy to start a business. I could make one in not even 6 hours of total time. But thats limited to 3.5t only. To drive > 3.5t I have to make a "test" more or less. Lets say, 2 weeks later I could drive trucks on my own. But get a 100k€ Truck 🤣

[elder roost]

No mandatory school here but a test to take👍

[rapid warren]

[formal minnow]

must be nice

i geuss ifi have the money to start ill move to finland or something 100%

[rapid warren]

I wont do that though... cuz of many reasons

[formal minnow]

not as much bs needed

[elder roost]

Same here.. less bullshit to run your own company than to be an employee honestly

[formal minnow]

to start a company

id still be working for a employer for atleast a year tho

so i get some proper experience in the country without fkin up my own stuff

[elder roost]

Any plans on how to finance the startup?

Because without the land id be clueless

[formal minnow]

cash

[elder roost]

How much cash do you have??

[formal minnow]

bit more risky but

right now under 10

but lets say id move in 2? years id have 20/40k

[elder roost]

20-40l gets you nowhere...

[pseudo bone]

20/40€*

[formal minnow]

then work for an employer for a year or so

so id have even more

[elder roost]

Im almost 400k in debt for this

• about 200k cash

[pseudo bone]

was it worth it tho?

[elder roost]

So far yes

[pseudo bone]

How many
sleepless nights?

[elder roost]

The money was saved up in my farms "company account" so it would only be half as much in my pocket 🙃

[elder roost]

Too many😅

[thick cedar]

yall are so lucky in sweden about the payment

[elder roost]

Elaborate?

[thick cedar]

in poland it’s rare to even find guy who will pay for free days

[pseudo bone]

i wouldn't say lucky?

[thick cedar]

in poland ur supposed to have 3 cards and a magnes

[pseudo bone]

i see many Polish trucks in Finland

[thick cedar]

Yeah we go thru baltics to Finland

[pseudo bone]

have fun having magnets and 3 drivercards in Finland

[elder roost]

And here.. under cutting out prices.. imagine complaining bout the home market and then coming here and ruining ours😂

[thick cedar]

in poland main routes are: england, sweden, spain and sometimes benelux

[pseudo bone]

its just sad to see the condition of those Polish trucks, id say 90% if would go through inspection customs everyone would send back home 🙈

[thick cedar]

Not really

it’s not like that anymore

maybe in early 2010’s it was like that

[elder roost]

The margins aint great here either... Some days you turn a loss.. it is what it is.

[elder roost]

They sure would'nt pass here..

[thick cedar]

Now we have our tuned trucks or just normal trucks without any tune but still in good condition

[pseudo bone]

by the looks of yesterday in Vantaa going Kehä 3 there was one Iveco Stralis looked like its seen the world war 1 and 2

[elder roost]

Tunes are for tards..

[formal minnow]

and how long estimate

to make the 600k back

and be full on profit

[formal minnow]

#irl-media

[elder roost]

Hard to say.. depends on how much of a salary ill take, and the logistics climate. But between 2.5-3.5 years probably

[formal minnow]

Thats not bad

im geussing your taking minimum salary right now

to pay it back asap

[pseudo bone]

our company pays those kasett truck pretty fast back, this year we've got 6 new trucks

[formal minnow]

just cover ur basics + save a bit

[formal minnow]

yeah but if u have more trucks its easier

cuz as soon as one truck is paid off

the profit of that truck can be used to pay off other trucks

to expand the company

[thick cedar]

that’s what most truck companies are doing

[elder roost]

Will get the loan below 150k while on minimum salary. Then ill reloan my house and pay it off completely and take a large salary and pay off the house

[pseudo bone]

we have worklands from father to son

[queen brook]

A transport company ideally needs 4 trucks if u want to run employees, one to pay the trucks, one to pay the fuel, one to pay the wages and one to make you money

[formal minnow]

as im geussing ur house loan will be at an better %

[queen brook]

Such is life

[formal minnow]

So just grind for 2 years to lower the loan hard

and refinance house to pay off truck

[elder roost]

Yes, and some tax advantages this way

[pseudo bone]

our company has 30kasett trucks and 122 Buses

[formal minnow]

do u park ur truck at ur house @elder roost

cuz if u do

[elder roost]

No by my tractor workshop about 1km from here

[formal minnow]

ah

cuz if u did u can probably do some funny tax things

to make taxes lower

by renting parking at ur house basicly etc

[elder roost]

Would'nt make a difference

[formal minnow]

But 600k for that setup thats not bad

[pseudo bone]

is partial daily allowance a thing there

[elder roost]

Nope. You cant "rent" things to a company you own here i Sweden

[formal minnow]

im geussing if u wanna start for urself u need a 25.25 m combo atleast as its impossible to make profit otherwise to pay off

[pseudo bone]

our kasett's cost like closer to 900k per truck

[elder roost]

Well.. im in Sweden.. its a standard 24.. but Flexo tipper+terberg attacher...

[formal minnow]

Yeah but thats cuz u guys have the fancy trailers

wich move the box into the truck

and thats not cheap

[formal minnow]

Terberg attacher?

[pseudo bone]

its not so fancy after all 🙂

[formal minnow]

what makes ur setup different

vs normal eu setups

[elder roost]

Forklift in the back..

[formal minnow]

ah

[rapid warren]

I'd try to start with a cheaper way - 100k for truck and trailer, pay off that, once you got enough money you can upgrade both truck and trailer 😄

[elder roost]

And it tipps to the side..

[formal minnow]

on back of truck

or on trailer

[elder roost]

Google Eksjö Flexo and youll understand

[rapid warren]

but... imma not gonna start my own company. not looking to kill myself 🤣

[elder roost]

Both^

[elder roost]

And trailer

[formal minnow]

right

yeah those trailers are nice

palletised stuff u move then mainly i geuss

[elder roost]

Nope

[formal minnow]

or can u tip aswell

[elder roost]

Tipper

[pseudo bone]

good old Moffets right? @elder roost

[formal minnow]

So im assuming your roof and side open seperately

[elder roost]

Mostly Loam and woodships. Monday pallets

[formal minnow]

as it looks like u dont have an curtain

[elder roost]

First roof then side yea

[formal minnow]

quite cool

very very rare to see such an combo in mainland europe

[elder roost]

In the pic^^ just the roof is off

[formal minnow]

so i geuss your roof opens

and "flips" to hang on the right side

óf the truck?

vs being a actual open door type thing

[elder roost]

Yup

[formal minnow]

Cool

[elder roost]

Roof goes on the side and side on the roof

[elder roost]

This thing is also very Scandinavian.. the trailer bed goes in the truck bed @formal minnow

[formal minnow]

yes

i know those

[pseudo bone]

Finn's have build that thing back in the days

[formal minnow]

honestly wondering why they dont just have a full size tipper on the trailer

vs that moving thing

[pseudo bone]

then Swedes created SLP

[elder roost]

Because full size in construction sites???

[pseudo bone]

that combination is so many times better than those regular tippers

[formal minnow]

how

cuz none of u guys can reverse with trailer?

[elder roost]

You should see where we bring our trucks and trailers😂

[pseudo bone]

Naaaahhh, i'll always reverse to under the bucket if possible

[lapis vector]

Everybody gangsta, until someone brings hct.

[pseudo bone]

last month i had worksite with reversing almost 1,5 kilometers before getting load

[pseudo bone]

welll those combinations never leave pavement

[lapis vector]

Damn, that gonna take while.

[elder roost]

It happens, its fun as long as it aint to often..

[lapis vector]

Jep.

[formal minnow]

doubt

[elder roost]

Actually one of my friends drives a 34m side tipper for Foria.. that thing leaves pavement.. but it might be the only one in the country..

[pseudo bone]

this was one hell of worksite, everywhere possible to turn those shits around was pile of dirt or gravel

[formal minnow]

put plow on front

[lapis vector]

Clean af.

[elder roost]

Rigid+Dolly+Link+Trailer

[pseudo bone]

my dear scania when it was new in 2023 Summer

[frozen trout]

Looks awesome

[pseudo bone]

now that haves almost 200,000km on board

[formal minnow]

by now its brand new again

with all the shit u broke and got replaced

[elder roost]

Im only att 40k so far😅

[formal minnow]

already?

or did u buy it lightly used

[elder roost]

January deliverd

[pseudo bone]

well yeah few month's back gearbox and cardan shaft exploded and few other things by that :D:D:D:

[elder roost]

Nope brand spanking

[formal minnow]

hard work then

im geussing u have one load / unload per day

if ur hitting that mileage already

[elder roost]

Maxed out card every week😅

[formal minnow]

lol

[elder roost]

Nope about 6 stops per day

But unloading takes minutes😂

[formal minnow]

yea

[pseudo bone]

i've broken down 2cardan shaft and few cardan holding bearings within 100k :DDD

[formal minnow]

drive up hit remote weigh again and fk off

[elder roost]

She spends a lot of time in low range i hear😂

[pseudo bone]

this winter those worksites with 0 speed to pretty steep hill with 76tons full weight i can just imagine the pain 😄 😄

[elder roost]

Im only legal up to 64😅

[pseudo bone]

i just like the paint how its more brighter than our other Scanias... im different in good way

[elder roost]

Kinda legal 72

[pseudo bone]

Hehee

[elder roost]

Big chill

[pseudo bone]

this Truck has max load of 21,5tons and trailer 27,5 before this Scania i had 4axle Scania with 19tons and trailer was 5 axle with 31.2 tons

[elder roost]

Yea 15+28.5 for me

[pseudo bone]

i fkn hated that 31,2 trailers bed, it was so rough to the subframe, always had to be scared to tip that shit

[elder roost]

Chillin

[elder roost]

Also mintuu

[pseudo bone]

minttuviiiiinaa

MINTTU liquor

[elder roost]

Sorry😂

[pseudo bone]

my last scania was built exactly like this one

Truck had 2nd and 4th axle with lift trailer 2nd and 3rd and 5th axles

[elder roost]

I only went for the taglift on the truck..

I barely spend any time empty so its fine

[pseudo bone]

my scania was 3axle after factory 4th one was added afterwards

[elder roost]

Also "Norway" boggie and 24 ton drive axle

Can lift fully loaded

[pseudo bone]

but now im happy with my dear 5axle truck and 4axle trailer much much better combination

much more stable to tip than with the bigger trailers box

[elder roost]

Yea.. we got stupid laws for weight. You dont gain much by going to 4 or 5 axles on the trick

[pseudo bone]

iwish we could run 5axle trucks with 5axle trailers with like 86tons combined

maybe in the other life 😄

i mean like we can run them but with only 76tons total so not worth it

[elder roost]

Im forced to watch Disney shit...

[lean oracle]

300% tough no?

[lean oracle]

[frozen trout]

Maleficent ?

[pseudo bone]

i dont even remember those % things with holidays

something like that i believe

[lean oracle]

Yeah national holidays is like 3x or sum so 300%

[pseudo bone]

im just happy to drive Scania i should pay my boss to get such a pleasure

[lean oracle]

Easy money for same amount of work

[elder roost]

Im too tall for Scania.. i sit like shid

Volvo aint perfect but it works

[lean oracle]

Hoe talk are u

[elder roost]

Also globetrotter cab with the standard FH bed gives more space to move back the seat

[pseudo bone]

i think ill remember the day the rest of my life when i drove the shittiest and slowest 540 FMX Volvo with them eco emission class things, it was so embarrasing it felt like going with a cow to horseraces, drove the whole day with powermode on and still didn't move the trailer at all... i was so pissed off

[lean oracle]

Most at work have not got power button

Mine does

Same load same weight I smoke them

[pseudo bone]

After i got the Scania back it felt like driving rocket, was tailgateing everyone accidentally

I probably got some kind of rash from that junk.

[elder roost]

Understandble.. the old gen Volvos felt completely gutless compared to Scania equal offering..

[pseudo bone]

hopefully they blow up it before its too late

it sounds so illegal to even drive 76tons with 540 motors should be punished with prisontime for the rest of life

[lean oracle]

Tautliners Here with Scania and they’ll have 660 hp for no reason 😂

[pseudo bone]

fuel consumption was absolutely terrible, almost double the Scania (not even close but felt like it)

[lean oracle]

Saw a 760hp while back

Max combination of 50 tons lol

[pseudo bone]

our newer Volvos have 780 and Scanias 770 mine is 660 but its good for me

[regal comet]

too much

[pseudo bone]

probably never getting those new Aeros because of the extra 30cm lenght, then it has to be subtracted from somewhere

[regal comet]

660 to drive on a pancake

🥞

[pseudo bone]

not really with those totalweights

[blissful locust]

arent they allowed to be longer because of the aero cabin or is that nonsense

[lean oracle]

No? Aerodynamic things added to truck for fuel efficiency and shit does not influence that it gotta thus have shorter trailer

Least here

Or things for driver comfort

[regal comet]

no

[pseudo bone]

They need to subtract that extra 30cm out of the trailer then..

the lenght is taken out of the nose so yeah

[lean oracle]

I mean they don’t have to here

Hence plenty of trucks with tautliner vs 16.5 m be like 16.87 for instance

Cuz bigger cab for driver comfort for instance

[pseudo bone]

ohh, i believe that's a reasonable thing here in Finland

everything is so written in stone

[formal minnow]

phat

[regal comet]

is that a guy?

[pseudo bone]

i mean @queen brook could give some experience with those new Aero's and that extra nose lenght.. i believe you need to subtract it out of the trailer then, im not sure with those HCT ones

[pseudo bone]

that's rude to say..

[regal comet]

what i’m just curious dude

[formal minnow]

bruh

[queen brook]

This is my 1st time driving one my guy

[formal minnow]

most of europe daf xg and volvo aero are exempt

as in + 25 cm max allowed on length

as thats what the aero adds

[pseudo bone]

ohh my bad my guy

newbie

[elder roost]

Yes..

[frozen trout]

yea, hope you have matches between eyelids

[elder roost]

Wot?

[frozen trout]

To keep you awake

https://tenor.com/view/tom-and-jerry-insomnia-hungover-no-sleep-sleepy-eyes-gif-15225691

[elder roost]

I wish

[formal minnow]

Hot

[queen brook]

Quite cold actually, just +10

[lucid birch]

How was your friday guys?

U can see the oil underneath the cab 😂

The oil pump for the 5th axle steerable wheel and the alignment system if u want to tip but ur truck is leaning to the left or the right. Had a few holes in it.

And it directly attached to the engine so it kept spitting oil out while driving

Luckily no oil on public roads

And the problem will be solved after easter. 🙈

[copper aurora]

[bright narwhal]

I'm not a fan of the green color, but I think I've changed my mind

[jaunty idol]

[jade swan]

are most guys and girls here in europe? dont see many conventional trucks in here often.

[formal minnow]

yes

[elder roost]

Yup, and most prefer women

[jade swan]

Haha, no idea why that's gotta matter here.

[elder roost]

The gay part not much, but the furry

[hexed jewel]

Issue with a furry?

[jade swan]

Seems like it. But idk.

[elder roost]

Dont get me wrong, i got some kinks to. I just dont flaunt them on the net..

[jade swan]

Being a furry isn't a kink.. it's safe for work art as well. Seriously

[hexed jewel]

I mean, it can be a kink to some. But for my sake I can me more me as a furry

[jade swan]

Correct.

[regal comet]

makes it look like a truck from bring

missing the beaten up curtainsider

[regal comet]

u are taking the piss

[jade swan]

What

[elder roost]

For once we agree

[elder roost]

Bang on😂 make it twice

[glossy horizon]

I like more of a dark green but this ain't half bad.

[ivory patrol]

Nice Käärijä truck

[copper aurora]

Like why do u want be a furry

[elder roost]

Not what i said

[copper aurora]

[summer valve]

You coming to Pennala tomorrow?

[queen brook]

Yea

Evening though

[summer valve]

At around what time?

[queen brook]

22-23

Depends

[summer valve]

Damnit. I'll leave at around 21.30

[queen brook]

I might be there that early too, depends on what they make me do before

If its a full nyytti to Lahti then yea

Buuut most likely its parcel + inex combo so it will be late

[lunar bolt]

Me when EV bus

[queen brook]

@summer valve damn, wont make it to Pennala, will be at least 21:50-22:10

[summer valve]

[queen brook]

Lahti Schenker type of beat, unloading parcel container

[queen brook]

Now leaving the terminal, will take 30min to get there

Our aero is already there, damn

[summer valve]

I'm already omw to Tampere in my own shift

[formal minnow]

must be fun to keep clean

[terse fog]

that is so sick

[queen brook]

Ah, dunno who that was then but brother was really slow

Trying to make bad but only prime comes out

[summer valve]

It was one of our new drivers

[queen brook]

Rautakesko really isnt that beginner friendly tbh

But I guess you learn 😄

Took me 2h to load today

[summer valve]

I was there teaching him from 18.30 till 21.30. Had my own shift I have to do so he got to load the rest on his own.

[queen brook]

Did you teach him to put pallets under nippus? He was struggling with that a bit

Poor guy was trying to push those cello listat in

[summer valve]

I did indeed teach that

[queen brook]

No problem we were all new at one point but damn he was blocking the docks so we had to soveltaa

[summer valve]

He called me at 23.35 that he was ready

[queen brook]

Oof, 5 hours 😅

Did he have a lot of stuff?

[summer valve]

~18 meters

[queen brook]

Yea that is quite a lot

Had 24m today, still 2m left 😎

Raivopinkkaus my beloved

[regal smelt]

Koleka Problem

[summer valve]

I was stacking pallets so he could drive them into the trailer. At one point I noticed that I hadn't seen him for a while. Let's just say, forklifts ain't his strong suit

[queen brook]

Neither are they mine, I hate loading with forklifts

Much rather use a pässi but not really possible in Pennala

[summer valve]

Pässi with higher loading possibility would be ideal tbh

[queen brook]

Sometimes we have lattiakuorma, I had one 2 weeks ago

Didnt use pässi though

7m of stuff, easy nighr

All pallets

Still stacked for the lols so it would be faster to unload, Merituuli K rauta has an forklift that can take all 3 pallets at once, unless they are laatta or laminaatti

[queen brook]

@summer valve im surprised it stayed

[lean oracle]

Damn that’s a shit spot, wasn’t an exit or smth nearby to slowly roll to?

[raven gate]

monkey on the back

[ivory patrol]

Feels good to drive johtotähti at work also

[regal comet]

merc

a merc with mirrorcam

https://tenor.com/view/sopranos-the-tony-soprano-heart-gif-21996314

[ivory patrol]

Who doesnt have camera mirrors in 2025

[regal comet]

intellectuals

[ivory patrol]

Eww

[summer valve]

@queen brook rautis tonight?

[queen brook]

Yep

Going to be plenty early

Almost Lahti already

[lean oracle]

my work even with new trucks will not order mirrorless trucks

[summer valve]

Have fun

[queen brook]

Is the new guy there?

[summer valve]

Yup

[queen brook]

Oh no....

3 of our trucks coming and only 2 docks to use then

[summer valve]

25m of stuff so get ready to wait. I was there for 2 hours, he managed to load 3 lavametriä of stuff in that time

[copper aurora]

Yo if u dont mind me asking

How much money do u make a year

I also wanna be a trucker thats why iam asking

[copper aurora]

How much money do u make per year

If u dont mind me asking

[summer valve]

I made 46k€ last year from trucking

[copper aurora]

After taxes?

[misty moss]

That's what, €17 an hour 39 hours a week?

@summer valve

Or 19😳

[summer valve]

Before taxes

[summer valve]

Base pay for me is 16.82€/hour. Then there's all sorts of extras that come on top of that

Last year the base pay was lower tho

[misty moss]

Ah that makes sense, it's similar here in Ireland

Bus drivers are nearly making more per year than truck drivers🤣

[summer valve]

I would have made more but I had to spend 1 month in military trainings

[copper aurora]

So what avout after taxes

[summer valve]

~36k€

[copper aurora]

Okie thanks

[summer valve]

@queen brook is the new guy still there

[queen brook]

Yes

Im done though, 21m of stuff

One dock challenge because of him

[copper aurora]

How much do u make per year?

[queen brook]

Depends really, with Jylhä I made 54000€ yearly

Dunno yet about finland only

@summer valve hes struggling

[summer valve]

Lmao

[formal minnow]

Honestly surprised ur only .82 above me

Seeing finland is a way pricier country to live in

And im on lowest grade

[queen brook]

It really isnt...

[formal minnow]

I mean

It is

33€ for a box kf sandels?

[queen brook]

If you base it off alcohol prices sure

[formal minnow]

[summer valve]

And even then, it doesn't even increase the costs of living

[copper aurora]

After taxes or before taxes?

[formal minnow]

Right

Well alcohol was kinda the only thing i really bought when i was there

[frozen trout]

before i think

[copper aurora]

[queen brook]

After

Daily allowance does a lot

Or well did

Not taxable so moooneeey

1300€ per week was pretty much the average

[copper aurora]

Thats alot per week

And thanks for telling guys

[lean oracle]

U drive these?

[finite schooner]

Some of em i did ya

[formal minnow]

Shouldntve fit

But it did

Fk going two times

Shouldve let my coworker load kt then

Whos so far away

Hes 7 docks further at the neighbour company same buulding

[fleet basin]

[queen brook]

Jobtime

Finally washed and stayed clean for more than 2 hours

[ivory patrol]

Maybe its that you drive pankinvärinen auto

[lean oracle]

But it won’t make it past 3

[formal minnow]

Till tomorrow and its grey again

[solar cave]

Please be mindful of our rules, random real life truck pictures please use #irl-media , also using mobile phone while driving is not allowed!
2.3. Channel descriptions constitute as part of the Discord rules.
Thank you.

[ivory patrol]

Where did you see mobile phone device

[elder roost]

Made crazy money that day👍

[formal minnow]

Always good when u make extra money

For not much extra work

[formal minnow]

[summer valve]

Two American trucks have passed me within a single shift

Don't have a pic of the earlier one due to it being pitch black

[frozen trout]

Maybe some kind of american truck/car meet somewhere ?

[soft remnant]

for american truck fans i came across this 😉

[formal minnow]

#irl-media

[lean oracle]

This isn’t a truck nor is it even a truck engine

[ivory patrol]

its a truck

[lean oracle]

No

[ivory patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/you-dont-know-that-kenneth-parcel-30rock-you-have-no-idea-what-is-that-you-are-not-familiar-with-it-gif-21967048

[cobalt onyx]

Sounds like a scam

[lean oracle]

ye

what u got

[lean oracle]

least theyre in the right channel

[formal minnow]

definetly not noo

alright lemme pay u in google gift cards

[cobalt onyx]

That's what every scammer says

[lean oracle]

then again ,so does someone legit with low prices

[cobalt onyx]

Haven't experienced one yet

[lean oracle]

L

so far ur all words and not proof

[lean oracle]

so your a scammer

[cobalt onyx]

Called it

[lean oracle]

What’d I’d miss

[ivory patrol]

Sounds like jytisee very nice

[pseudo bone]

jytisee jytisee

[ivory patrol]

My favorite is vesipatonkis 4 nyrkkii persees

[formal minnow]

seat massager

[pseudo bone]

oh yes

feels pretty awesome on lower back

[formal minnow]

im sure

[ivory patrol]

I had small box in my audi too

Try slum chemist

[pseudo bone]

i have 2x2500w rms excursion subwoofers

[ivory patrol]

2x12 is the thing

Minimum

[lucid birch]

cool zoom on the gopro

can you teach me how the zoom works

i also got the same gopro

[pseudo bone]

yeah ofcourse you just need to edit the zoom with some sort of editing application, and wooolah

[rapid warren]

Is that your truck? 😄

[regal comet]

vbg is superior

[jade tangle]

Heya,
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[lean oracle]

mhm so. ucan work

[pseudo bone]

ofcourse not

[pseudo bone]

TAV is the way to go

[paper fjord]

Filmed with phone mount to arm

[formal minnow]

thats private property anyways

[paper fjord]

yeah i know

[ivory patrol]

Yeah but some admins like to powertrip sometimes

[formal minnow]

its stupid

[ivory patrol]

Sad but true

[frozen trout]

@cobalt onyx

[cobalt onyx]

Imagien reacting to your own message 🤡

[formal minnow]

imagine clown reacting to mine

[cobalt onyx]

Imagine you not making statements that are clown based

[formal minnow]

So agreeing with someone because admins delete messages that are on private roads

thus phone useage is allowed

is clown behaviour?

[cobalt onyx]

Not knowing despite being here for so long as you have, that it's being deleted for a reason and if someone disagress with that reason they can make a feedback ticket to CMM, is what I could consider clown behaviour. Plus if it weren't deleted lots of other would start posting random pictures which might not be aligned with what this channel is supposed to be used for.

[frozen trout]

That was the point sackface, React to your name with clown face

[formal minnow]

only stuff that should be deleted is people just posting random truck pics / pretending its their trucks

unless it fits with whats being talked about

[cobalt onyx]

That's your opinion, which obviously isn't always the same as those who moderate this Discord server

[formal minnow]

perhaps

but they shouldnt warn and delete stuff nonstop

when its clearly private property

[ivory patrol]

I just said it lol

[ivory patrol]

They just see "oH tHe TruCk Is MoVinG"

[lucid birch]

So technically i can film while im driving on public roads when the streets are blocked off for construction work

Its still public roads but its blocked off

So it counts as “private roads”

[formal minnow]

id say yes

but u know how they all act here lol

@jade tangle answer our questions

[lucid birch]

Swen to be honest most of the time its you

Looking to go over the edge

Even in a server with almost no rules u are on the list on almost getting banned

[formal minnow]

ur just not on my level of humor

[lucid birch]

U have no humor

Its straight racism

[formal minnow]

false

[ivory patrol]

Some people have different humor :)

[regal comet]

you don’t have a tacho card?

[queen brook]

Another day another Posti with a brand new trailer

Not even taped yet

[pseudo bone]

after week, looks like those old Transpoint trailers and leg containers with rotten doors and bed, doors won't close on bit bumpy ground and what ever fun

[lean oracle]

dont scratch it

[summer valve]

Scratch like this?

[lean oracle]

tf u do

[summer valve]

Nothing. Wasn't even at work when that happened

[lean oracle]

sure sure, thats what id say

how tf tough, tf they hit rest is intact

did something fell on it and then just went joink

[summer valve]

The driver hit an lamp pole

[lean oracle]

owh hahahaha

mr got fired and lost license

[summer valve]

Surprisingly he's still not fired. Probably will get next week once boss comes back from holiday

[lean oracle]

xd

i mean hes suspended without pay for sure?

[summer valve]

Hourly pay so no work, no pay

[lean oracle]

0hr contract?\

cuz if its a 40hr contract if they dont suspend him but say stay home theyll needda pay xd

[summer valve]

Idk his contract