Dragoon Modifier

[nova mulch]

Melbu slapped a base game fully decked out miranda for... 7700 on what I assume is a physical attack, and 9.5k for a magical attack

.... well

If I wish to pull the shenanigans I was going to... I'm basically gonna need to restart the game xD

I could reload an earlier save, yes

but my way has hours more entertainment

[iron bone]

? why you can fly off the moon.

[nova mulch]

I never had that option in the Dramod menu?

and I can go back to older saves

[iron bone]

go to the big tv screen map with the moon

and open dramod menu

[nova mulch]

OH

well

I'm still doing it my way

[hidden wraith]

@iron bone Soooo... After fiddling around, these are the issues i've noticed

Other than zero character sound during human additions (Dragoon additions worked fine), NO HEALING ITEMS CAN BE USED IN BATTLE, the items disappear from the menu (Wasn't able to test angels prayer cause nothing killed my guys where i'm at), but after combat they are present, note not sure if bug or dumb luck but running away from combat seems reliable again. Icons also changed for custom stuff to swords.

Dragoon and item spells seem to work fine, and only tested two repeat items which are still present

[iron bone]

I think the usage location is wrong somewhere I will take a look.

[sweet wyvern]

I fixed an issue on main where they didn't show up if you were at full health

@iron bone

[hidden wraith]

Want me to let something hit me to see if it pops up?

[sweet wyvern]

Sure

[hidden wraith]

Ight 1sec launching

Notice Dart isn't full, and no healing breezes or such still

[sweet wyvern]

This is likely already fixed, but Zy needs to update to the latest code

[hidden wraith]

I wonder if that will fix the no sound during additions?

[iron bone]

Something is wrong with the unpacker (again)

[sweet wyvern]

Oh?

[iron bone]

Both of us unpacked and we are missing addition audio files.

[hidden wraith]

Lemme know next round of file testing

Using my run as the guinea pig 😂

[hollow ridge]

How do you fight the Ultimate bosses in Kadessa again?

[high pebble]

Dont you go to their chambers?

[hollow ridge]

How do you activate the Ultimate bosses you defeated?

Never mind I see a menu

[hollow ridge]

Hey I just fought Commander Ultimate Boss and got 0 exp and 0 gold. ???????????

@nova mulch Did you get exp or gold from the Ultimate Boss?

Also it says, "The expensive new equips can be found in the Black Castle by the Green and White Flame Researchers.
You can exit the Black Castle using the New Serdio Party entrance." How do you even enter the castle to get those equips?

[nova mulch]

zone 1 ultimate bosses gave 700 gold, zone 2 gave 1k gold and 3k exp

[nova mulch]

forbidden land is where it shows up

[hollow ridge]

What zones are what?

Starting from where you teleport in.

[nova mulch]

yes

[hollow ridge]

Which zone is 1- whatever?

[nova mulch]

zone 1 is where you teleport in and has the first 3 bosses

zone 2 is the next one, with 5 bosses

[hollow ridge]

Weird because I beat Commander in the first zone where I teleport in, and it gave me no exp or gold

[nova mulch]

I got money for him, did you use the next ultimate boss button or the ultimate boss button?

[hollow ridge]

ultimate boss

[nova mulch]

try using next

[hollow ridge]

I see

[nova mulch]

cause thats the one I used for all of them

[hollow ridge]

Ah ok I assume the normal Ultimate Boss button is if you want to fight them for fun for no exp or gold because there's a Ultimate Boss number setting in the gameplay options

Ok thanks 👍

[hidden wraith]

Want me to see if i have the same issues as before with that file?

And I assume just drag and drop?

[sweet wyvern]

Yes, from the git logs it looked like he merged in my fixes

[hidden wraith]

Ight will test now one sec to repalce files, want me to delete anything first?

[sweet wyvern]

Nah

[hidden wraith]

Testing now then

Audio file still missing during human additions, BUT healing items popped back up

Testing the repeat items and dragoon forms now

Repeat items i tested were still available after the fight, in battle items are stacked, but not in main menu after combat

Dragoon additions were working properly sound and mechanically, healing items healed properly

So as far as I can see atm just human addition audio bug left

Wait just for shits and giggles i'mma test shana's light attack to see if that works lol, i remem zy said he'd remove it but i gotta try never know 😄

Had to try

😂

[sweet wyvern]

@iron bone no addition sounds is an issue on your fork

Works on main

[sweet wyvern]

Can confirm, is a light attack

[iron bone]

what broke hmmmmmmmm

it only broke after i reunpacked so hmm

[raven edge]

Does anyone have an issue with the game not remembering your gameplay options? The item limit and dragoon menu options keep getting reset to default. Is that something to do with Hell mode? I'm playing RB3 Beta v1.3

[rough tree]

Oh, i broke Lavtiz returning lmfao

Adding Lavitz back just results in a Lavitz removed message

[sweet wyvern]

Yes, hell mode resets several of the options

@iron bone you really gotta use the option lock I added for you

[iron bone]

I haven't really touched base dramod in a month.

Also not my fault no one reads the posts.

😛

And I think I just finished my two day adventure I'll get to doing some coding.

[iron bone]

I just reunpacked and I have sound again. I have no clue.

Oh it's a problem with DraMod itself not the SC branch uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh wtf.

oh it's the new addition sfx code ,_,

JAVA HAS OPTIONAL PARAMETERS NOW???

[sweet wyvern]

Huh? You can overload methods to pass defaults but you've always been able to do that

[iron bone]

im still stuck in jdk 8 land.

[sweet wyvern]

I'm pretty sure method overloads have been a thing for as long as java has been a thing

[iron bone]

overloads yes, when was "..." introduced

AdditionHitProperties10 didn't cause an error for me when I didn't have the AdditionSound parameter

it doesn't have two class constructors which is what you would normally do in old Java.

[sweet wyvern]

Ah varaidics

Those were added in java 5 😛

[hidden wraith]

Yall having fun i see 😂 😂

Lemme know when to test next round 😉

[iron bone]

the more you know.

i just checked my java book where i learned java (which was java 6 at the time apparently) did not have that
i also checked my yoohoo days source code, never used it

[sweet wyvern]

Heheh shit

It's just syntactic sugar for arrays but it's pretty nice

[iron bone]

i can see the commit for locked entries on main but it wasn't present when i merged branches.

ok now it's there. intellij's searches through index i guess?

i already see a problem where is the unlock

[sweet wyvern]

There is none, do you need to unlock?

[iron bone]

uh. in old dramod you can swap freely between difficulties but uh i think i might lock hell mode down to make life easier where you can only swap between two hell modes.

so maybe not.

well if you reload into a non hell mode save? idk just reload SC 😛

[sweet wyvern]

You can go back to the title and load a different campaign with different mods, but mods and registries are fully rebooted

[iron bone]

not what i wanted but it is done

yeah i will lock hell mode down to only hell modes then. eZ.

[sweet wyvern]

Running from the IDE will show that

Since it uses the main classloader

Each mod has its own classloader so once you're running it as a normal mode it'll show your mod name

[iron bone]

👁️ 🇨

[oak timber]

Hey guys, so started Hell mode beta and was wondering how to add party memebers, additions and equipment? Was gonna go for a new game plus kinda thing? Is it possible? Xx

[iron bone]

All those features will come with the full version. Hell Mode itself is already somewhat a new game+.

[oak timber]

Ahh ok nws thank you ^_^. Xx

[oak timber]

So I've encountered an issue, it might be already known but after each battle and reload/ rebooting, it seems to reset the item count back to 32. Is there a fix for this or just need to manually rechange it afterwards?
Sorry for all the questions and being a bit dumb xD. Xx

Also, just as an FYI for everyone.
I figured out that if you start a new game on Hell Mode beta. Save. Then copy the whole save folder, I.E "new_campaign" to normal devbuld, you can then use the debug menu to change all the bits you want, add members, items etc, then copy that folder back to Hell Mode build and it'll work with Hell Mode enabled.
Only just testing this so not sure if/ what bugs this may cause. Shall update as I go. Xx

[hidden wraith]

That sounds curious, haven't tried that 😯

[oak timber]

Yeah, honestly I was purely curious if this would work. Seems to be running fine, as mentioned above, the only bug seems to be the item cap resetting after battles, reloading/ rebooting but unsure if that's the Hell Mode build or the save swapping which is why I was asking about that. XD. Xx

[sweet wyvern]

Hell mode locks a lot of your options

[oak timber]

Ah ok cool. Nws, thank you! Xx

[fallen kettle]

Grand Jewel was such an amazing fight!

[iron bone]

Good to hear since it was recently revamped

Now I just need someone to try Lloyd with his... reblance.

[hidden wraith]

Yessss break him, make us suffer 😈

[iron bone]

I will probably just change his normal boss script. I have another idea for the ultimate boss version.

[grizzled night]

XD

[nova mulch]

I’m gonna have a hell of a time soloing lloyd now, arent I Zy

[iron bone]

I mean I was just thinking of changing the move with talisman to work 50% of the time.

and the ultimate boss version will do something even worse.

[tired orbit]

check for talisman at the start of battle, if exists, load faust

[nova mulch]

Evil

[nova mulch]

Oh, this is fine then

[iron bone]

load a special faust...

faust with psyche bomb x

[tired orbit]

faust that will cast a slightly bigger faust

[iron bone]

where is my masterpiece

the faust pentagram

[nova mulch]

Its faust, all the way down

oh god, a boss fight where when you kill the boss, he special summons Faust

and then when you kill that faust, he special summon's faust

[hidden wraith]

Soooooo any chance the audio issue for human additions on the recent update being fixed? >.> Paused playing cause it lowkey ruins immersion lol

[minor shuttle]

Confirmed. This fixed addition audio for me

[hidden wraith]

Woohoo! Ty

[minor shuttle]

Unsure if this has been mentioned. May or may not be DraMod related. Doubling of text in item description

[iron bone]

it's dramod

thank you will fix it later

[hidden wraith]

Is that only in combat, or menu as well as shops?

[minor shuttle]

One other. Have noticed some damage numbers are replicated above with a darker coloured damage number. 90% of the time it's same number (14 damage, above it 14 in a darkerr yellow) Unsure if it's intentional. I havent been able to get a screen grab. I think the problem only occured after I messed around with game speed.

[minor shuttle]

Combat only Zerakue. It's not game breaking or anything.

[hidden wraith]

tyty, not able to test at this second so checking 🙂

[sweet wyvern]

Sup Deningrad, been a while since I've seen you around

[minor shuttle]

Yo!
Yeah! Recently changed jobs so guess who now has time on his hands XD

[sweet wyvern]

Very nice

I'll be done working on my house pretty soon so I'll have a lot more free time coming up to start streaming and whatnot again

[minor shuttle]

Sounds amazing! You'll have to tell me about the alterations you've made!
I've just started working on my house myself! 🙂

[sweet wyvern]

Nice what have you been doing?

[minor shuttle]

I'll tell you in DM

[minor shuttle]

Leaving this one here for Zy

[nova mulch]

Miranda isnt even top 4

[sweet wyvern]

Who's miranda

[hidden wraith]

Is the highlighted yellow mean just physical defense?

And is siphon overflow passive always active? Example, if i use dragoon addition with rose, it says it counts towards it, then cancel dragoon form after 1 attack, what does the siphon do exactly?

[iron bone]

https://tenor.com/9f2T.gif

[iron bone]

Yes just physical defense.

[hidden wraith]

Sweet

Can you go into a little detail on exactly how her siphon works?

[iron bone]

It should say all magic attacks*. The ultimate weapon allows the physical attack to count towards siphon.

Siphon when the bar reaches max allows you to use Siphon overflow which then allows the next attack to add Rose's Max HP to base damage of the attack before any multipliers. This will only apply to the first enemy that is hit in a multi target attack.

[hidden wraith]

Ahhhh so does it scale with her healing ability?

[iron bone]

uhhhhhhh

no it does not

[hidden wraith]

Since it sounds like it increases the BASE value before dmg modifier, wasn't sure if the base value being increased would also juice the heals

Or as i like to call them, healies for feelies 😉

[iron bone]

rose's additional healing is applied before the damage changes

[hidden wraith]

Ahhhh

See THIS is the fun of minmaxing testing LOL

[hidden wraith]

@iron bone is enrage supposed to be off? Just went to test the update on a new save and noticed it off

These are the settings from my current playthrougu

Looks like Elemental bomb was also turned off

Audio is working here, also have the double text speech ONLY on vanilla items

Heals working normally minus double text

Repeat items fine

[iron bone]

hell mode locking only happens at the start of battle

[minor shuttle]

Ok, it's clearly a feature im not understanding... What is the Brown/Yellow number above the normal damage numbers represent. I can't find anything about it in the Readme

[minor shuttle]

"The numbers Mason, what do they mean?!"

Item stack size isn't locked @iron bone
You can have 50 potions and 50 Angels Prayers and the game sees it as 2 items if you raise the item stack count.

[iron bone]

112 damage, 66 damage to shield
112 - 66 damage to real HP

uh

im going to disable item stacks or change it so it counts towards total items

@sweet wyvern item stacks not counting towards total items bug or feature

[minor shuttle]

Figured you might want to stop that one!

Also... Elemental arrows are... hard to get/expensive for what they do/the power you get out of it. We have enough inventory at 32 to justify carrying normal items for bosses.

I get about double the damage of Shanas normal attack when exploiting weaknesses and multi at 240%. It's somewhat cheaper and just as efficient in damage to dragoon up, fire, pop out, and recharge the dragoon turn

[iron bone]

they aren't supposed to be used 100% of the time

[minor shuttle]

I understand that... but that means i'll be saving it for bosses... which I wont use them for because real items are incredibly more effective making these elemental arrows slightly... slightly... useful if you run out of real attack items. So they just sit there... unused... yet need to be grinded at certain areas to get.

I love the idea... it's just unlike everyone elses special mechanics, it doesnt seem to actually have any use. If i want to conserve items i wont use them... if i need something dead i use something else

[untold zealot]

I never use the arrows

[minor shuttle]

If they arent supposed to be super powerful then they need to be abundant... if they arent abundant then they need to be powerful... they are neither powerful nor abundant

[untold zealot]

Can't farm them / not necessarily good to use

[iron bone]

There is an apporpriate time to use them.

[minor shuttle]

I'm listening... because I promise I wont be running back to villude to "Prep" for Lenus when i can run out with 6 Burn Out's and Dart with an Amulet.

I really like the idea of Elemental Arrows... I just don't know how to use it

[iron bone]

🤷‍♂️

how many arrows did you get in Volcano Villude

I don't think Volcano Villude has triple monster configurations so that is another problem of the low drop rate.

[minor shuttle]

Even if I got 99 of them, i'd still be using burnouts over the arrows due to them not doing enough. Thats the concern, not enough of them to use them all the time, not powerful enough to use them instead of items... they just... collect dust

Concept is 10/10 though...

If you were to make them repeatable/dropped from bosses or purchasable and slightly more potent than a normal attack if element is exploited... then you have Shana gaining tools to keep her basic attack weak... but still relevant... as the game goes on...

If you make them more powerful, leave them rare, then players can then grind them as an alternatove to attack items, allowing them to circumvent the item cap

[iron bone]

I'd have to do math again if I were to increase it again

it's at 80% when you are not using the ultimate weapon

[minor shuttle]

I'd actually suggest the opposite...Shana atm is doing about 55 for me. Elem arrow hits for 120 if its correct element for extra damage... Scale it "Down" to 70, give her Fire from beating Fire bird... permamnent... give her Wind from Feyrbrand, Water from Regole... She still wont hit as hard as the rest of the team... but it gives her something unique, makes her basic attack a reason other than just sp and keeps her "Growing" as the game progresses.

[iron bone]

🧐

I rather not make it unlimited. I'll add the other part of the elemental arrows I left out.

[minor shuttle]

Ooooh... sounds juicy... Details or saving it for a suprise?

Something unrelated to Elem Arrows. The hand in 10 stardust achievement triggers when they are collected, not handed in

[untold zealot]

I had gotten 2 arrow drops by end of disc 1
Disc 2 got 1 drop
Haven't done 3 or 4 yet

[iron bone]

that's still way too low

[untold zealot]

What if you get 1 arrow per 100 sp gain. Arrow type depends on last mobs element that was hit.

If people want to farm they can go out of their way to just like with levels or additions. Or sliding scale where 1st-3rd arrows are 100 sp each in a battle, next 3 arrows in the same battle is 250 sp...etc.

But not sure if that makes it useful to get same element

Or u choose which element some way

Or u get em after and not during battle

[minor shuttle]

Simplest answer would be exactly as it is currently but instead of costing fire arrows it costs the magic and lasts booned to her for the battle... 1x Burnout gives her lesser burnout for the fight...

Or until knockout.

Don't need to change the math... or the drop rates or anything else... just... make the arrows last the full fight but cost the actual item... done...

That way we an "Buy" the arrows

I grinded for them for 2 hours and got 12 Fire Arrows...

I went through Dragon Nest naturally and gained none.

That two hours gives me 12 attacks of "Less than Lavitz Rod typhoon damage" and only when used against specific enemies weak to it.

Alternatively... I bought ten pellets, plus other things for the amount of Gold I earned for that grinding.

[iron bone]

Are you going over "32" total items because of the item stacks bug?

[minor shuttle]

Nope... I ran into Fey/Greham with 10 Pellets, 4 Sun Rhaps, 6 HPots, 5 Angels Prayers, 3 Burn Outs, 1 Spark Net, 1 Healing Breeze, 1 Mag Sig Stone, 1 free item slot.

Shana used 6 Pellets the whole fight... I used 4 Potions and 1 Sun Rhaps all up...

Even if I had earth arrows... Shana never had a turn to use the arrows because she was tossing items. After Feybrand went down I didn't even use pellets. I'd just regular attack and then dragoon up to get the damage on her normal D-Atttack.

I literally never had a turn where I would have used the arrows... I had just... other more effective options...

[sweet wyvern]

Intended behavior

[iron bone]

Tis getting a config then so I can make it count for hell mode.

[sweet wyvern]

It's for mods to add items that can stack in the inventory without counting towards the limit

Like small things that would be extremely annoying if your inv was full of them

[iron bone]

the inventory is the difficulty option for hell mode 😆

i thought item stacks was just so you can do healing potion (11)

[sweet wyvern]

I know, just lock the option for adjusting retail stack size

[minor shuttle]

Zychronix... a quick and easy fix is to just lock the item stack count to 1

@sweet wyvern What that guy said XD

[iron bone]

me clearly not looking at the item stack code while i was merging it

ok that's done

i will push an update when i am done with the shana's monstrosity..

[minor shuttle]

Hahaha... I am sorry for opening up that can of worms...

[iron bone]

no i think this is like 5 people now saying the arrows are boring

this is what they were originally going to do. iykyk

[minor shuttle]

I'm sorry but thats wrong... It isn't boring at all.

The elemental arrows are a hell of a lot of fun... they are just shiny trinkets on the shelf in their current form because they dont get used

[hidden wraith]

Does this include an alternative fix to her Blind your screen attack? lol

Also note her dealing 2 dmg to special mobs

[minor shuttle]

Ooparts is currently feeling the pain of that right now... 2 Bandits shoes and a ring later... mmm mmm yummy

[hidden wraith]

Yuuuup! Lmao

[minor shuttle]

Rock up to Freugel like... "Sup Bro" Got blinged shoes, Blinged rings, Blinged Dragon Helm... Mmmmmmmmmmmmm.... Hell Mode... But I am the boss...

[hidden wraith]

Wait how far have you gotten in hell mode?

[minor shuttle]

Hellana 2nd visit. Just grinding off Haschels additions on ooparts before I enter

[hidden wraith]

If you wanna see some funny stuff, hold 40k cash in reserve 😉

[minor shuttle]

Mmm... That's... A bit of dosh to grind... When will I need it for?

[hidden wraith]

There is a very special vendor not in the base game that unlocks after you beat Doel

[minor shuttle]

Understood... By my count that means I need 54k all up including my Dragon Helm... That's...

Counts...

90 OOPARTS

[hidden wraith]

Bare in mind, the ultimate bosses give a good chunk of gold, but this allows you to access some very fun toys way earlier than intended

Without spoilering too much

[minor shuttle]

cracks fingers... Boots up Judge Judy Re-runs
"COME JUDITH SHINEDLIN... WE PAST JUDGEMENT TODAY!!!"

[hidden wraith]

Also if you're gonna farm the 00parts, my fastest strat was use haschel with shana for it, give shana all the speed items and accuracy boosters, cause she deals 2 dmg per hit unlike anyone else but i think she needs to be above lv 11 or 13 for it to work?

[minor shuttle]

I'm consistent.
Haschels with Bandits shoes and Ring. Dart with Shoes, Shana with a ring... Everyone with Acc boosters and tossing Mag Sig Stone out

[hidden wraith]

yup

[nova mulch]

the 8 currently out dong give nearly enough for the time investment to be worth using to grind money, unless he has released later zones now, then ignore me

[hidden wraith]

How's your solo run goin?

[nova mulch]

Note, I did not say the ultimate bosses were not worth killing, just they arent worth the time for a money grind

[hidden wraith]

Fair lol

[nova mulch]

I've got work to do on it, to figure out the Faust and Melbu fights, because other than those, I've done everything

[hidden wraith]

Niiice

[nova mulch]

those two bosses stand head and shoulders above the rest

though notably, ||Zieg|| is a cheeky dick waffle

[hidden wraith]

LMAO

Wait isn't ||Zieg darts dad?|| Been a long time since i did disc 4

[nova mulch]

than you for telling me I should spoiler tag that

[hidden wraith]

How do i spoiler tag?

[nova mulch]

Solo, the only person I had who could fight him, was Dart... and Dart only dealt about 1k damage

|| yes twice, on both sides of text

[hidden wraith]

Oooo

The more you know lol

[nova mulch]

but yea, he took FOREVER to kill, and dart had to do it because uh... the counter attack he would launch occasionally dealt 5.5k to him after final boost, and he could then follow up with another 3.5k hit

instantly

[hidden wraith]

Sheeeesh

[minor shuttle]

Gnib and Zerakue...

I reallllllllly like the Divine Dragoon...

How does it roll with Darts Burn Stacks?

[nova mulch]

plus he has about 160k hp?

[hidden wraith]

I haven't gotten that far yet, thinking of trying a new campaign after all the recent updates lol

[nova mulch]

I'll let you know when I consider dart a valid Solo character to use vs Melbu

[minor shuttle]

I'm very tempted to gamestate the DDgooner into the playthrough im doing.

[nova mulch]

right now my top contender is checks notes Kongol

[hidden wraith]

Kongal SMASH

[nova mulch]

unless ring of reversal got nerfed, then its checks notes again ... Albert? Wait this cant be right

scratches out name vigorously there we go, Lavitz

[minor shuttle]

NB: Spirit potions don't count toward D'lvl Exp

[hidden wraith]

Spirit potions DO count, least i used the crap outta them to power level shanna to 7 dragoon disc 1

[minor shuttle]

They werent... tested again... didn't work... restarted SChains... now works...

Huh...

Chalk that one up to user error friends o7

[hidden wraith]

All good dude 🙂

[minor shuttle]

Soon

[hidden wraith]

Sheesh you flying through it man

[nova mulch]

it doesnt take long with Shana, OO parts, and charm potions

[minor shuttle]

Charm Potions?
Please tell me they guarantee an Ooparts encounter because...

[hidden wraith]

I actually... never used charm potiions

[minor shuttle]

These little shits!!!

Driving me nuts!!!

[hidden wraith]

Shit i'd rather those any day over the damn crystal golem

[minor shuttle]

Stay right of the Green junction towards Kazas and the Crystal Golem spawn rate is LOW

[hidden wraith]

(Lowkey expecting Zy to introduce a secret maxed out crystal golem in the ultimate boss catalog just to troll me lmaooo)

[minor shuttle]

Haven't encountered one except when I step left of the Kazas Junction

ymmv

[hidden wraith]

I'll have to try that

[minor shuttle]

It's all BLOODY PLAGUE RATS!!!

Another 10 down

The next 20k is tomorrow's problem... I need sleepytimes

Night! Thanks for the chats!

[hidden wraith]

Have a good one dude!

[iron bone]

*If two of the elements are the same while in Elemental Cooldown those elements will be increased by XX% and the other element will be decreased by XX%, causing no Elemental Exhaustion. The Elemental Cooldown elements will replace the Elemental Field and it will activate again.

[hidden wraith]

Question after skimming the read me, alot of it is variances of using xyz elements, different effects if 2, or all 3 to make the field

In hell mode won't most people use all three of the same weakness for elemental weakness targetting? So odds of the first two fields being used are greatly lower

I do like how she can give bonuses to stuff like burn stacks... that can be an entirely different role for her

[iron bone]

The first two should reset the field without going into cooldown

[hidden wraith]

I'll have to reread it

Wait will shana keep the 50SP on spell usage, in addition to this, or is this replacing that effect?

[iron bone]

everything here is addition

[hidden wraith]

https://tenor.com/view/jk-cute-photos-gif-3689630985498042422

REALLLLYYYY Love that 50 sp feature most of all LOL lets her dragoon form stay active a few extra turns

[night pilot]

The mod throws an error when loading the dramod test v5 file. 🥹

[iron bone]

can you screenshot the terminal or send the error.log file?
did you install dramod v5 test over the dramod existing dramod v1.3?

[night pilot]

I even did a clean install, once I added the mod, the game crashed.

[sweet wyvern]

Are you trying to use it with regular SC? It needs Zychronix's custom build for now

[night pilot]

What is that configuration? I just entered the didcord today for work reasons, so I didn't see if there was any configuration.🥹

[sweet wyvern]

@iron bone where do you keep the download for your build

[iron bone]

You need my custom build of severed chains.

Checked the pinned posts

How the heck do you see pinned posts on mobile

https://github.com/Legend-of-Dragoon-Modding/sc-dragoon-modifier/releases/tag/v2.0-HellMode-Beta-1

Delete any folder you currently have and just use this version for now.

And keep it in a separated folder from main severed chains.

[rough tree]

PP

[minor shuttle]

PP indeed

[minor shuttle]

Zy cooking in his lab...

[minor shuttle]

Rose didn't heal on Dgn-Addition but did gain Siphon overflow.

I am assuming it's supposed to be magic that she heals on?

[hidden wraith]

Correct

[minor shuttle]

I'm heading into Kazas now with my 40k in reserve

[hidden wraith]

When you beat doel, return back there and go to the room with green and white dragon flames

Youll see a new vendor

[minor shuttle]

Understood! o7

[nova mulch]

I’ve explained a few times, but Charm potions prevent non-boss flagged enemies from attacking you, 00 Parts is not boss flagged and thus cant attack, unlike other special enemies, 00 parts doesnt have a run away action, he has two attacks, one of which carries a run away action as part of it, since charm potion prevents him from attacking the character it is used on, if all active party members have a charm potion used on them, 00 parts is forced to sit there

And since charm potions are used on the player, not the enemy, they wear off after 3 of that character’s turn, NOT 3 enemy turns, making it so you have several chances to attack per character under the effect of a charm potion, rather than the very short duration of the magic sig stone

The strat gets stronger if you only use Miranda or Shana, with a long bow

Since they become very reliable with just that, and can use the talisman to prevent instant death

[hidden wraith]

That is actually quite handy to know, thank you Gnib!

[minor shuttle]

Gnib! Very insightful! Thank you!

Also... I have 40k to spend...

Ring of reversal looks hilarious for Kongol...

Ring of Healing for early Mage Ring for Meru... That 7% MP per turn... Juicy...

But Lloyds Boots? Winged Boots? And The One Ring... Please tell me they have some very funny extra stuff to them other than just being strong stats

[hidden wraith]

Question

Didn't someone say i can load up dramod, start a game, save, exit game, copy save file to normal severed chains, add whoever I want to my party, save, transfer save file back to dramod, reload again, and I can start dramod with a full party at level 1?

Does anyone know if this will brick the game when it comes time for those companions to normally join?

[sweet wyvern]

No issues with bricking

But doesn't DraMod have an option to add all party members?

[hidden wraith]

Not sure about all

I only remember shana and lavitz add options

Oh also Zy you said lavitz also gets half speed from items like kongal right?

[hidden wraith]

These are the only settings im seeing if I try to press L3 or R3

[iron bone]

Just saving your game will fix achievements

Dramod menu can open in main menu i don't have a way yet of detecting if that is open or not

[hidden wraith]

How do I add additional team members such as kongal from the start? Loaded up OG severed chains to try and test it but couldn't find a menu for it

That way I can transfer the save to hell mode

[minor shuttle]

Zerakue... If you don't mind being Over Leveled, you can load a Map that has a party change and they will be added. For example, using the Game state editor to load the map before Melbu, the Cutscene with Lloyd plays, the party gets rebuilt, and you get given Divine Dragoon and Dragon Buster, then you can load back to your old map with everyone in the party.

Otherwise, F12s Game editor can also allow you to edit values and add them in

[hidden wraith]

The game state editor is something i'm unfamiliar with, when you are free can you show me how it works by chance?

Being overleveled wouldn't be my ideal situation, i'd wanna enforce my own restrictions such as no shop purchases other than maybe 1 per disk kinda deal, especially so if i'm gaining a character prematurely

[minor shuttle]

Hang tight, I'll jump online. Give me five. Just keep in mind this is not something I've done to mess with party before so I may be leading you on a goose chase

[hidden wraith]

All good man! It's 7:37 here atm, at 8 i have some clan raids in a game, should be free again at around 8:25 ish

[minor shuttle]

All good, this will take 2 minutes to show you how the Editor works. Then you can play around with it in your own time

[hidden wraith]

Oooo sounds good! Wasn't sure if it would be a multi hour thing depending on how indepth lol

[minor shuttle]

Accept friend invite. We can call and i'll screen share it

[minor shuttle]

Have fun Zerakue with your shenanigans

[hidden wraith]

Thank you dude for going over how to get the debugger to add party members, super helpful! Gonna spend a good chunk of hours messing with this 😂

[minor shuttle]

Note: When you get to Hoax, the battles between Dart/Lavitz get reset consistently. I think you may have to use the debugger between each fight without opeening the menu between fights to check if you've done it right. So it may be easier to just brute force through those three fights with Dart and Lav

[hidden wraith]

Sounds good! Ironically that fight with the ninja was my hardest of all the hell mode

[hidden wraith]

@iron bone Question, Bandit ring is 20 movespeed points yet Albert is at 53, gaining 13, and adding bandit shoes on top he is now at 67, but menu shoes 80

PLEASE HELP EXPLAINNNN

[minor shuttle]

Can confirm... I saw it myself... Albert and Kongol be slow as heccin hecc

[iron bone]

67%

[hidden wraith]

Is that planned to be changed?

[iron bone]

Of the speed item

[hidden wraith]

Tinkering with editor to have fun with numbers 😄

[iron bone]

No his balancing is tied to the speed reduction.

[hidden wraith]

Alright fair, Thank you!

[nova mulch]

I mean, given how powerful Lavitz/Albert is, him getting a speed reduction is fair

[shrewd cypress]

new tags are available for modding threads: SC version supported, special instructions, fork, and so on. I have added the Devbuild/3.0 and Special Instructions tag to this pre-existing thread (along with combat difficulty tags).

[unborn flame]

does this mod make Kongol viable

ik he was buffed in hard mode to make him much stronger but he was still too slow and frail to magic to rlly bother using

[full bolt]

Yes he's good now

He is still slow but hit like a truck, his dragoon special is a beast

And his counter stance is really nice

[unborn flame]

COUNTER STANCE???

PLEASE TELL ME HE GOES BARE HANDED AND PUNCHES PEOPLE

sidenote i wish status items and other stuff like pandemonium worked in boss battles

[full bolt]

It puts his speed to 0 but everytime he get hit he has a free turn (3 turns before the counter stance fades off I believe)

[unborn flame]

awww...still awesome tho good work

[full bolt]

So in normal encounter it's pretty strong with the pandemonium

[unborn flame]

normal encounters aren't hard enough to warrent pandemonium use unless you're guard spamming b4 a boss fight tho...

[iron bone]

it's powerful inside of boss battles just not for kongol himself

it's getting a slight buff next patch

[sweet wyvern]

Are you playing hell mode?

[unborn flame]

i haven't played hell mode yet

is pandemonium useable in boss battles in hell mode?

[sweet wyvern]

I'm referring to you saying normal encounters aren't hard enough 🤣

[iron bone]

vampire kiwi intensifies

[hidden wraith]

Three words bro

FUCK. CRYSTAL. GOLEM.

Game overed me more than any boss on hellmode

Mainly cause when grinding additions without cheating caugh caugh You need to deal over 240 dmg per turn of the crystal golem else you end up not doing enough and a fight can easily last over half an hour

Since the additions in hell mode are back loaded, they do less than half dmg if you fail to finish a perfect human addition, so losing half your dmg HURTS when that wanker can heal for days

[full bolt]

The old one that was stronger than Fruegel 1 and could 1 hit KO Lavitz when it was in red 💀

[hidden wraith]

I wanna seeeee

[unborn flame]

....oh

[unborn flame]

wdym perfect human addition?

[full bolt]

They mean completing it

[unborn flame]

oh well thats easy

i thought they meant like getting the perfect white square for each hit of the addition, now THAT would be tough

cant wait to olay hell mode when its finished there seem to be so many sick changes. Truly epic how much love this game is getting 🥹

[full bolt]

Yeah, hell mode is so fun (yet some times really frustrating but it's a part of the journey)

[oak timber]

Ok so an update on using hell mode game and editing by transferring to normal SC and back again.
All work, haven't encountered any glitches, however if you edited party members in, each time a member swaps out (like say for instance, you have Meru in your part in disk 1, after the Hero Comp) you then have to save and retransffer over to normal SC to add her back in, then transfer back to HM. Xx

[hidden wraith]

Game debugger let's you add her back in each time without needing to do that, only issue is cannot easily modify her without remembering what items you had until you get her natively

[sweet wyvern]

You need to adjust each char's party flags in order to make them stay

[hidden wraith]

What're party flags?

[sweet wyvern]

Gamestate editor

Select the char in the dropdown, and select party flags for the field to change

[rough tree]

@hidden wraith Hi, I bugged Lavitz out 🙁

[hidden wraith]

Uh oh how so lol

[rough tree]

@hidden wraith I'm live now, when i try to add him back, it says Lavitz removed, and I cannot access gamestate editor

[hollow ridge]

Quick question. I beat all 4 old dragoons, but it's still saying that I haven't got the achievement yet.

I've beaten Zieg as well and still nothing @sweet wyvern

[rough tree]

Oops, I thought Zereake was Zychronix in streamer mode lmfao

[hidden wraith]

Mybad on any confusion dude 😅

[calm trail]

In Hell Mode, why are there extra numbers next to a targets hap? Is this a shield typ ething?

[hidden wraith]

Some are shields on certain bosses, others are mechanics on dart such as hits burn stacks, or lavits wind stacks

[calm trail]

So regular mobs got shield I noticed when my damage was split on soldiers

[weary lark]

hi good afternoon, im looking if is possible to play the SC on hell mode with the gamestate editor enable

[hidden wraith]

Yup

[weary lark]

how i can do that, because when i play with the dragoon modifier active the gamestate editor didnt show up

[hidden wraith]

Just pressing f12 works for me

Which version are you on?

[weary lark]

yeah thats work but if yopu press debug on the top and then gamestate ediot it didnt show up

dev build 3.0 and dragoon modifier 1.3

[minor shuttle]

You may be using the wrong build.

Severed Chains 3.0 has been split into multiple builds.
Zychronix has his own Severed Chain download that you install that has Hell Mode in it. Until the mod is complete, Hell Mode will be using this seperate build

https://github.com/Legend-of-Dragoon-Modding/sc-dragoon-modifier/releases

Keep in mind the Gamestate opens in it's own popup window and will only pop up when there is a game state to actually edit. e.g - wont appear on main title screen

[iron bone]

I'll fix Lavitz issue tomorrow

[iron bone]

Can you send me your save

[iron bone]

gamestate editor is disabled in dramod (for now)

[hidden wraith]

Weird, how come im able to access it?

See it on the side of screen and a lv 2 rose

Admittedly mostly using this file for warping around the map for funnies lol...

[iron bone]

dramod test version doesn't have it

[hidden wraith]

Can I send you my entire file?

Or do you want the save to test?

Sorry not trying to cause any issues

Just trying to make sure im on the most up to date version, if something isn't working correctly then WHY is what im curious on

@iron bone

[iron bone]

huh there is no issue i reenabled it for the test version with item stacks

[hidden wraith]

Oooo curious

Actually very interesting

With that in mind, do you want me to tinker test various things outside of just janky HEY DOES XYZ WORK? 😅 😂

[iron bone]

the only bug is dramod not locking item stacks to 1 it seems which i already fixed.

[hidden wraith]

"Cough cough" other than shanas light attack lol

[hidden wraith]

Hmmmm wonder if it's possible to do hellmode without grinding much on starter additions?

[unborn flame]

wait does this mean you can only have 1 of each item???

[full bolt]

@austere oak you're not supposed to equip elemental arrows to Shana but to use them in battle

I believe you can press down when you're on the attack button and it will show the elemental arrows menu

[minor shuttle]

No... Item stacks are how many items can you have before it needs to take up a second slot. Meaning if Item stack is set to 10... and you have 8 potions, the 8 potions only count as one inventory slot. Setting item stack to 1 means every potion will take up its own item slot. 32 potions = 32 items in inventory

[unborn flame]

isnt that how it works in the vanilla game tho

[minor shuttle]

Correct, but severed chains allows you to increase the item stack. This is a function added for mods and things to make use of.

Hell Mode is supposed to be a difficulty mod, so to prevent people circumventing the inventory limit, Zychronix has forced that function to be locked

[unborn flame]

ah ok i see

ngl i didnt even know the item stack mod was a thing 😭

[minor shuttle]

It's in base SC. Unless you play around with it, you won't really find/notice it

[austere oak]

Ohhhh now i see. Thank you :D

[full bolt]

Maybe it's up that you have to press

I didn't play since a few weeks so I'm not sure 😅

[trail jetty]

Hi everyone, I just played through the whole game on severed chains and loved the QoL stuff and the experience in general. Now I'm starting a new campaign with DM hell mode. I see the spreadsheets with the numbers on additions, magic, items, etc. but is there just a text list of mechanics changes somewhere? Thanks in advance 🙏

[nova mulch]

I soloed and avoided the grind

[nova mulch]

the basic changes should all be in the readme

[trail jetty]

Ah, my bad; I just loaded it onto my Steam Deck and didn't even think to check the file. Thanks for pointing me in the right direction!

[full bolt]

Some information can also be found in the pinned message here

[hollow ridge]

Can either of you two help me on how to get this achievement? It's destroying my OCD right now. 😭 😭 @iron bone @sweet wyvern

Largest damage I've ever dealt

[nova mulch]

Dang

Too bad he's dark elemental instead of water, could have been so much more

[iron bone]

you don't need to tag monoxide here. can you send me your save file?

[full bolt]

They could use a strong water item to make them be water element

[hollow ridge]

Yeah Berserker is always the one to attack when you want to see big damage

[hollow ridge]

My apologies. Give me a sec.

[hollow ridge]

sent the other one just in case

[nova mulch]

I assume that was with power up and power down

[hollow ridge]

Power up, Power Down, while doing Final Burst twice to the other Berserker and the Piggy in the middle so I can gain 3 burn stacks from both. So I used 6 burn stacks dragon attack with both Power items and Firebrand as well and Ring of Power increasing my attack by 60.

I was hoping it would do more than 200k though R.I.P

[nova mulch]

isnt the flame dragon a single target attack for more burn stacks?

[hollow ridge]

No it attacks all

[nova mulch]

Ah

I am used to Meru's which IS single target

[hollow ridge]

Trust me it would be cool to see max burn stacks that would 300k+ easily

If the game allows that because the last Severed Chains broke the 9999 cap from the base game to 50k and now this Severed Chains broke the 50k cap into who knows what

[nova mulch]

Yea... I will settle for Meru hitting end game enemies for 40k+ : P

[sweet wyvern]

SC cap is 999999999

[nova mulch]

just shy of 1 billion, got it

[hollow ridge]

Yeah killing Magician Faust was a pain but I used Ring of Reversal to make Kongol tank some Magic attacks and used Perfect Shield and Magic Shield for Albert and Dart to wail at him for free for 3 turns

[nova mulch]

Hey, this just means if we ever get level 99 again, we have a new bag of stats and tricks to try and hit that with

[austere oak]

is it possible to buy elemental arrows?

[minor shuttle]

No.
But for 40'000G you can buy a weapon for Shana that gives her unlimited of each arrow

[hollow ridge]

Actually you can at the Serdian shop on the Moon. But like Deningrad said, it's best just to buy that weapon

[minor shuttle]

Wasn't aware of that! Thanks for the correction @hollow ridge
Are you enjoying Hell Mode? I'm going to do a Randomized Character Run soon

[hollow ridge]

Taking a break. Only thing left is to defeat Melbu

But before I beat Melbu, I'm going to touch some grass first

[austere oak]

where can i buy the weapon?

[minor shuttle]

In the Black Castle of Kazas in the room with the mad scientists that gave you the purple flame oil.
There are a lot of equips sold by an NPC added in there.
Most will break the game with how strong they are.

Fair warning, getting the Elemental Arrow Equip for Shana will break a lot of the game over your knee

[hollow ridge]

Black Castle. Entrance is the bridge. Only Exit is the New Serdio Party(original entrance to the Black Castle)

There's a third researcher that sells those weapons you have to talk to

He's in the same room with the original two researchers. Can't miss him

[hollow ridge]

Interesting. Only Weapon I didn't buy. Might get it to see how the game breaks lol

[minor shuttle]

The weapon itself boosts Shana's MAT
Which in turn takes her already busted damage output and throws it through the roof

[hollow ridge]

Interesting. Might test that out later.

I use Dart, Albert and Kongol and just powerhoused through every boss and killed every boss including Virage 3's body. Only one I could have beaten but was barely dying to was Zieg

But Meru with Ring of Power and Magic Hammer is insane against him. Ramming Blue Sea Dragon's up his ass was satisfying to watch lol

[minor shuttle]

Different parties certainly handle things differently.

Albert and Kongol is a very brute force party.

If you want to have a bit of fun, throw a Healing Ring and a magic hat on Meru and enjoy being able to abuse her Dragoon magic.

[hollow ridge]

That's exactly my brother's account lol

He uses Dart, Albert, Meru

[minor shuttle]

I'm a fan of Haschel with Speed equips.

His Lightning Charge build up will build in human form and with speed equips, he gets enough turns to make use of it

[austere oak]

I made it to the two researchers that gave me the purple flame oil but can't seem to find a thrid researcher. Does the third researcher appears after defeating Doel?

[full bolt]

Yes

[austere oak]

Thanks

[iron bone]

Yes, on the moon you can buy the arrows.

[hidden wraith]

Hey Zy this weekend if you're free, just out of pure curiosity can you show how you mod the game a little? I know almost nothing about actually modding a game outside of opening game files in note pad and editing values there, so was curious 🙂

[iron bone]

that's what dramod will allow you to do with full release

[hidden wraith]

Ooo sweeeeeeet, alright thank you!

[wraith tusk]

when will be the full release?

[minor shuttle]

This is not easy to answer.
I can't speak to the operation of @iron bone 's mind...
But what I can say is I have personally utilized Dra Mod for many many years when it was a ram Value editor for the epsxe emulator, long before Severed Chains was even a thing...
And Zy is still making improvements and adding things.
Don't wait for a release... enjoy it... then when you are done... enjoy it again...

Zychronix cooks... and in the many years this has been going... he has just found a way to keep making a diamond shine brighter.

tldr: don't wait for a release, play it now. Chances are Zychronix will start on an improvement after the next release anyway

[austere oak]

what does The One Ring do?

[iron bone]

1

+1 the stats, set hp to 1, 80% avoid

[hidden wraith]

Does the 80% avoid stack with others to reach 100?

[iron bone]

no

[rough tree]

I never knew Weak Shields were repeat items, omg

[hidden wraith]

Wait WHAT

[rough tree]

I use them and they keep coming back, these could be useful

[hidden wraith]

I gotta test that

If it is repeat, Holy crap

[iron bone]

They arent supposed to be repeats. The next update will fix that.

[rough tree]

Aww, understandable

[sweet wyvern]

Dreams crushed

[minor shuttle]

Any thoughts on bringing back "Rows"?
I remember the ol' epsxe had it going

[unborn flame]

+1 meaning a flat +1 to the stats or something else?

what I mean to say, for example if Dart's attack is 70 would it become 71?

[iron bone]

yes all body stats get +1 and a-/m-avoid is set to 80

[sleek brook]

Hi, I have a question. Been playing the new hell mode and the Inventory Size keeps resetting to 32. Is this something that's a bug, or just built into the hell mode?

[iron bone]

It's locked in hell mode

You will gain inventory slots by doing the ultimate boss content which you can find in the readme.

[sleek brook]

alright, thanks for letting me know. I read some of the readme, but I was getting lost with it because I was tired and just moved on to see what the play was like

[harsh locust]

I started a campaign with enrage on, but it was too hard. I kept dying constantly to non-boss mobs. When I turn it off, enrage just keeps turning itself back on. Do I need to start a brand new campaign with it off from the beginning?

[minor shuttle]

It's locked as on in Hell Mode

[minor shuttle]

@iron bone @untold zealot

Fun little side effect i've found...

Ink's Irongoon "Stock" settings for stats overide "SOME" but not all values in Dra Mod Hard mode.

The first Hellana soldiers were definitely not Hell Mode but were harder than retail... Dragoons have standard retail percentages on their stats.

I havent documented anything else with certainty but it is definitly creating funny results

Dart was taking 43 from a spark net while lavitz took 39 despite dart's MDF value being 1 point higher...

[iron bone]

Hell Mode+ is the default for new Hell Mode. You can drop down to Hard+Hell Mode in the next beta update but Enrage will still be active.

[untold zealot]

did you replace the char and enemy csvs in irongoon with the ones from dramod?

all but the addition unlock csvs are compatible

[hidden wraith]

How's the oven baking going on Shanas rework?

[rough tree]

8000 Gold on Attack Horn and Defense Horn @iron bone

[iron bone]

I think that's right?

[rough tree]

It used to be 4000

They provide 30 plus DF and MDF

The elemental weapons are also 3000, it used to be 1500

[rough tree]

The new equipment is sus too, are they doubled by mistake?

[iron bone]

are normal shop items doubled? if they are not these are the correct prices.

[rough tree]

I'm heading to Denigrad and Wingly Forest to check

I fixed horns but the others I was wondering, these seem fine

Now I'm just wondering about the 4000 gold boots

The item shops at all locations are good

[iron bone]

The shop prices were not doubled I shipped them with the correct prices.

[tired orbit]

why is your game shining like sun

[sweet wyvern]

FYI item prices in LOD are the sell price, buy price is 2x

[iron bone]

Yes I am aware, DraMod uses sell price in sheets.

Because that is what retail used.

[rough tree]

HDR sometimes messes up the color

[hidden wraith]

Wait does it actually? Was looking at getting a new monitor too 🙁

[rough tree]

For recording/snapshotting HDR content/screens yes

[hidden wraith]

Ahhhh so normal gameplay is fine then?

[rough tree]

Yea, it’s not representative of what it looks like on the HDR screen. The colors are a lot better

[hidden wraith]

Ooo alright good to know, Thank you!

[drowsy vortex]

Does anyone know what would cause less sp gain? Double slash is giving 18 sp instead of 35 sp. Using battle rewards and dragoon modifier mods. I cannot see any options in settings that affect sp gains.

[iron bone]

Hell Mode has 50% SP gain.

[drowsy vortex]

Okay, is there a way to disable that? Or do I have to get rid of the entire mod and start over?

[iron bone]

It's part of the difficulty.

[hidden wraith]

Are all additions scaled to 50%?

[iron bone]

Not anymore. Some are 75%.

[hidden wraith]

And if so, what about the dmg modifer cause the read me says some stuff adjusted

[drowsy vortex]

Also noticed that when I click off the mod when starting a new game the sp is still adjusted to 50%

[iron bone]

Uh maybe the events are still triggering? I would have to look into that.

[rough tree]

Ain’t it part of the addition edit csv?

[iron bone]

Well DraMod loads everything before you can even turn off DraMod. With Hell Mode only existing that is half of the problem.

[drowsy vortex]

Is hell mode only the only version of the mod that will work with severed chains?

Also playing on steam deck if that helps.

[iron bone]

Hell Mode is the only difficulty for DraMod Beta and will only work with the custom build of Severed Chains I have provided.

[drowsy vortex]

Thanks for clearing that up for me.

[covert plume]

Does the 1.10 version work with the 3.0 dev build? Installed the Zip in the mods folder and its not showing up.

[sweet wyvern]

At the moment you need to use Zychronix's custom build of SC

[rough tree]

I think Shana/Miranda's arrow swap is bugged when using a wind arrow against Grand Jewel, the damage is massive when using one @iron bone

[naive sail]

Am I losing my mind? I downloaded the "recommended" version to try this, found out it doesnt work so i downloaded 2.1 and 2.1 doesn't have a mod folder to put this in? I am half asleep but something isn't adding up lmao

Unless I am misunderstanding this and that the hard mode that isnt hell mode needs the new build? in which case, I thought about that and downloaded from the github but that one is missing the launch bat file

[iron bone]

if you are trying out hard mode just create the "mods" folder. i forgot to put it in the dramod v1.10.5 zip

[naive sail]

I mean i do intend on trying hard mode, I just wanted to play a normal difficulty with the changes if that was possible. It seemed like it was definitely doable but I may have misread

Currently at work though so I can't give a whole lot more info atm lol

[iron bone]

If you want to play normal difficulty pick up the normal severed chains rb3 dev build.

[sweet wyvern]

Which changes?

[naive sail]

If I was reading everything correctly, Dramod had difficulties attached to it.

Downloading this from the github was missing the launch bat file and a few other things from what I can tell because I tried getting it to run multiple ways and it would not run whatsoever. I don't have the exact wording on why since I am still at work

So I was looking for all of the extra stuff added for Dramod but just on the retail difficulty lol

It says you can drag and drop into the mod folder but game still doesnt pick up the mod. I also went and grabbed 2.1 which i believe was the most recent depreciated version but it was also missing things as well from what I could tell.

[naive sail]

Also this is where I was mentioning that it didn't have a launcher because I assumed this was the custom offshoot to support it in the first place

Disclaimer - I work 14 hour shifts so I am half asleep 90% of the time so it's entirely possible I'm just dumb and missed something lmfao

[iron bone]

95% of the extra stuff in dramod only turns on when you don't select a normal difficulty.

the only version being worked on at the moment is the custom version for hell mode and when that is done the rest will be available

[sweet wyvern]

@naive sail as Zychronix said, most of the special dramod features are only available in hard/hell mode. There is an old version of dramod available for SC 2.1 that has hard mode. The current beta test for SC 3.0 only has hell mode and hard mode will be added later. For the 2.1 version, you just drop the mod into the mods folder. For the 3.0 beta test, you need a special build of SC because there are features it needs that aren't in the main build yet

[naive sail]

I am home now and I see y'all helping out. Appreciate y'all. I completely missed the bit about the hell mode thing being in beta. 🤣

[haughty current]

I am in Hellmode and having an issue were I cannot open GameState Editor - every other debug menu - just not that one, anyhelp?

[iron bone]

Gamestate and combat(?) are blocked in hell mode

[severe dust]

what lvl do i get lavitz additions? its changed?

lvl 9 still no rod typhoon?

[severe dust]

How do I know Siphon Overflow is active?

[iron bone]

1/5/10/16

[iron bone]

you get a second blue bar when you select the option in the secondary menu

[hidden wraith]

Ty, that is good to know 🙂 Was curious too when he posted the message lol

[iron bone]

i will create a dramod visual guide because non of y'all want to read my essay

[hidden wraith]

Challenge accepted, send the essay 😄

[severe dust]

i was in the readme but it wasnt very clear to me tbh.

my fault 🙁

Does Rose get hard blade at a different level? I noticed that she started with More & More immediately.

[iron bone]

1/8/17 for Rose

[severe dust]

thank you so much

[severe dust]

Imin Lohan with Dabas. How do I get "Diiig" to work?

[iron bone]

uh.. i think it should still work with the new save format...?

you have to play on the pocketstation emulator and you can transfer the save over to SC

[supple verge]

How do we add the level 1 party in hellmode? The readme says its in the dramod menu but I am not seeing it. I only have 4 options

Level sync, remove second slot, remove third slot, swap all dragoons

[iron bone]

It is not present in the test version

[severe dust]

hell mode on severed chains is some of the coolest stuff ive ever seen. this is awesome

[severe dust]

Just got Albert. How do I change him for Lavitz?

Someone pllease help me @iron bone

[full bolt]

Use swap Lavitz and he'll be back on the team

But Albert will still be here

[severe dust]

did that, didnt work 🙁

like am i the only person this isnt working for?

dude i need lavitz, it isnt working

[rough tree]

Does it keep saying Lavitz removed? If so, I have the same problem, Zychronix said it'll be fixed in the next update

[severe dust]

yes it does

[severe dust]

Albert Gust of Wind Dance is killing my buzz 🙁

[rough tree]

Lavitz dying kills everyone’s buzz

[ebon mica]

hi there, I have an issue with shops at the very start of disk 2

it doesn't show any items and says no items in shop

switched to hell mode and it shows the same

[iron bone]

what do you mean switched to hell mode? there is only hell mode unless you are on... SC 2.1 + old dramod?
is there any errors in the console window when you go to the shop?

[ebon mica]

I'll show next time logs

[severe dust]

when do i get lavitz/alberts flower storm in dragoon?

[full bolt]

DLvl 6 I think

[severe dust]

Oh wow. Okay

Doel didn't stand a chance 😎

[severe dust]

I think I may be overleveled. Is normal to be level 17/18 after Doel?

[severe dust]

@iron bone am i unable to add lavitz on the hell mode?

i had mentioned it before but didnt know if it was bugged or intended that i cant add him back

[iron bone]

i think it's glitched in the latest version because the game uses different flags to remove lavitz/shana at different times

it will be fixed in the new version eventually™

[severe dust]

okay! thanks so much!

[sleek rover]

Good evening! I've just joined this community before. For starters, I'm just gonna ask if I need this modifier if I decided to play the original Japanese version with, for example, English subtitles. Because that version looked mostly pleasantly harder so far. It's been a long time since I last played the PAL version of this game. Many opponents I felt should have been much tougher were a cakewalk in this version, unfortunately.

There's "Japanese Undubbed", I believe. But I couldn't catch the guy playing saying whether it's the Japanese difficulty balancing, or not.

[severe dust]

As far as I'm aware... the japanese version is harder than the NA/PAL version, but easier than Dragoon Modifier's Hard mode. (NA->Japan->Hard->>Hard + Hell Bosses-->>>Hell)...

unsure if you can play it with the japanese version.

[iron bone]

If you want to play the undub patch on emulator the emulator version of dramod will work

But you need na copy and jp version for the patcher if i remember correctly

[sleek rover]

Yes, a guy on YouTube has made a side-by-side comparison between the Japanese and US version. Definitely harder, but hard to read.

If Hell Mode doesn't just require endlessly more grinding for stat boosts, I might consider it. I have to think, because I still have my old PS1 PAL version here across 4 CD's. I just remember many hyped-up opponents being too easy to beat.

[sleek rover]

Yeah, I read up on it by now. It looks like it doesn't change the difficulty to the Japanese default.

By the way, is Dart still inconsistent to swap out? Because that might also feel rough to me after being exposed to Final Fantasy X recently.

[iron bone]

the latest emulator version of dramod doesn't have issues swapping out dart

oh.. i didn't provide JP difficulty on old dramod 💀

[ebon mica]

that was ISO defect))))))))))

[iron bone]

ah good because i had no clue lol. many people have been going to the feltz shop and it worked fine.

[severe dust]

I'm lvl 24 avg before Lenus/Regole and dying. am i a skill issue? btw, i dont have angel scarves. and my party is rose/albert/haschel. all have final additions.

[iron bone]

skill issue

[severe dust]

thanks

needed to make sure

am on the severed chains beta posted in october

[iron bone]

oof october

i can't even boot dramod from source atm i need to finish merging to main

[severe dust]

@iron bone May I ask? You don't have to say publicly, but what is your 'intended' level/progression/gear for people to be at for lenus/regole

[iron bone]

literally whatever level the boss gives you

[severe dust]

the SC hell mode is interesting, because i feel overleveled, but also dont have alberts 50% dmg reduc dragoon ability, so its weird i n that way

oh you dont intend for grinding?

[iron bone]

no in SC dramod hell mode there will be three additional game modes so i didn't intend for you to grind

[severe dust]

3 additional game modes? what does that mean? im genuinely curious

[iron bone]

well ultimate boss is the main one the other two will be out later because they take some npc scripting that i need to learn how to do

i was level 22 for lenus/regole

[severe dust]

so like... you intended zero 00parts grinding before Doel? no dragon helm/bandit shoe? nothing?

[iron bone]

nothing

[severe dust]

interesting

easier than the 'dragoon modifier' emulator mod then?

[iron bone]

the bosses in this version have the enrage shields so the fights are a little longer but most players are higher level. i reblanced disc 3 off feedback and parts of disc 4.

you missed double punch

[severe dust]

im blind

fault

😭

[iron bone]

speaking of disc 3 i have decided to yeet lloyd's boss script for the story version

[severe dust]

i always quit on disc 3 cuz rose falls off a cliff

but i plan to finish this time

beaten the game 2-3x but have gotten to disc 3 and quit atleast like 8-10 times

[iron bone]

rose's ability is busted

[severe dust]

siphon overflow?

[iron bone]

yes

[severe dust]

its clutched in bosses yeah

i am stubborn in my unoptimal party and i think that is one of my big issues

i plan to like, never switch out rose

and switching out lavbert hurts too

[iron bone]

just use kongol

some people have stuck to one party for all of hell mode just fine

[severe dust]

never used kongol once my whole life 😭

but maybe i can try

[iron bone]

my favourite party is kongol+shana+1

[severe dust]

Okay... idk how regole is a skill issue now, when his aoe attack at red hp one shots the whole party from full lol..

[iron bone]

🙂

[severe dust]

😄

[full bolt]

Dart special + heat blade is broken in this fight if you have issues

[rough tree]

@iron bone Were the elemental weapons supposed to be 1500 like in previous versions, or is it now 3000?

[rough tree]

Also, Miranda disappeared and I can do 2 damage against 00PARTS with Shana lmfao

[iron bone]

3000

[rough tree]

Ah ok, appreciate the clarification, I nerfed the price for the horns down to 4000 from 8000 as I assumed that was a bug

[iron bone]

nope 8000

[rough tree]

Oh really? Damn

[severe dust]

Is level sync cheating?

[ebon mica]

how to change difficulty manually?

without mods

any hotkeys in game?

[iron bone]

no

[iron bone]

only hell mode is available at the moment

[hidden wraith]

Is it still only 8 extra bosses?

[sleek rover]

Wait, does that mean Hell Mode is actually finished and not in Beta anymore? I get that some or most of the stuff you've done is in a Beta phase, but one finished bug- and crash-free difficult playthrough of the original game sounds worth playing again.

[rough tree]

It’s still a beta, Zychronix still needs feedback and bug reports to make sure everything is functioning properly, it is playable but may not be representative of the final version

[severe dust]

Anyone have suggestions for gear against grand jewel?

I had Sapphire Pin on rose, but it seemed to not proc almost at all. Only on the earth attack? All he does is magic.

[rough tree]

A few things

Don’t use Rose lol, she gets shattered by the light attacks

Have Lavitz/Albert with his elemental weapon and keep specialing with quadruple physical damage

Having Shana/Miranda is recommended due to her resistance of light attacks

Otherwise, magical defence and physical attack is top priority

Spiritual ring can be pretty good, physical ring is very good as well, , angel robe and holy ankh as well for 40% revive, if you use both one however it’s capped to 60%

[hidden wraith]

Did not know about that cap 😮

[rough tree]

Yes, 80% revive is broken on vanilla lmfao

[hidden wraith]

maaaaaybe LOL

[rough tree]

I preferably have just 30% on both equipment so that 80% chance on two members reviving wasn’t a thing, but hell mode is capped on just 1 character

[severe dust]

im just wondering if the sapph pin is bugged?

and you say specialing? is dragon block staff different here?

[rough tree]

Hell Mode forces you to keep elemental weaknesses/strengths in mind, otherwise you’ll end up going to level 50 or something so rose doesn’t die from those attacks

Haven’t noticed, I haven’t used it in a long time in favour of the defensive equipment

[severe dust]

rose 29 d6 with dragon helm.... gotta use my girl. can slap silver stone on.

ez just put silver stone on her right?

and also really really really important question, you said to special. does Dragon Block Staff not screw you the way it did before?

[rough tree]

No, dragon block staff now does 20% dragoon power reduction, no longer 2000%

[severe dust]

interesting, so you can pretty much just dragoon as much as you want and not worry about it

i got him to half hp doing the 100sp strat of vanilla. i can prob just kill it then

[rough tree]

She’ll still be heavily impacted from the rest of the spells, so I wish you good luck haha

[severe dust]

she has almost as much mag def as meru currently

the way i lvled geared her

[rough tree]

Also, keep in mind you can force it to use dragon block staff by transforming and staying dragoon for one turn, stops him from damaging

[severe dust]

maybe i make it work :DDDD

i had to watch ur stream to beat lenus/regole. i was using rose/albert/haschel. went for rose/meru/dart once i saw how different ur team was

i watched about the entire hour that u fought that boss lol

[rough tree]

lol, I know everything about these battles, so it was almost a breeze through them until Kaumy and Grand Jewel

[severe dust]

hey, you DID die on lenus/regole once!

[rough tree]

Grand Jewel is slightly more difficult if you know what you’re doing, however divine dragon is going to kick your ass

[severe dust]

i usually quit at divine dragon tbh

hope its different this time

[rough tree]

Yea, my strategy wasn’t correct, as soon as I changed some stuff up, I was able to clear

[severe dust]

you certainly did (:

[rough tree]

Ohhh no, I grinded up one level and I still haven’t beaten it yet

[severe dust]

what lvl are u?

i havent level synced maybe i should tbh

mainly just dumped all my attention into rose and haschel

[rough tree]

https://tenor.com/view/koth-dale-gribble-king-of-the-hill-hank-hill-fighting-gif-8217698652869600966

Hank is Divine Dragon

[rough tree]

Don’t remember, you’ll have to check stream, off work break now

[sweet wyvern]

true

[severe dust]

whats appropriate time to put Kamuy to sleep?

[severe dust]

rose/albert/meru ez grand jewel win

[rough tree]

Oh, I was level 26 when I beat Grand Jewel lol

[severe dust]

youre a god at this hell mode stuff

[hidden wraith]

How'd you replace dart?

[sweet wyvern]

Go into the SC options and enable unlock party

[hidden wraith]

ty

[sweet wyvern]

You're welcome

[severe dust]

around what time in hell mode would you do ultimate bosses like fruegel? also, how do I do them?

never gotten this far.

[iron bone]

start of disc 4 then by the time you get to the moon you warp back down and finish the final 5

[severe dust]

in terms of hell mode, disc 4 is the longest disc, youd say?

[bitter rampart]

How hard is hell mode

[severe dust]

definitely a huge boost i ndifficulty compared to normal. also much different game with buffs/nerfs to certain characters. (and gear too i think?)

[iron bone]

After seeing that people aren't like omega grinding through the discs

I've decided to move all additional content to disc 4.

So disc 4 will be the longest with a new level cap.

[severe dust]

@iron bone hey, how do i do ultimate bosses?

like i see the option, but no idea how to activate.

omg hes already typing!!

[iron bone]

go back to forbidden land and open the dramod menu and select next ultimate boss

[severe dust]

thanks daddy

[hidden wraith]

Any ball park on the release update for that one? And I assume current save will be compatible ?

[iron bone]

i mean i just setup a bunch of upscales and i was about to leave my computer lol

[severe dust]

how do i use queen fury after rouge to get to lidiera? and/or furni disc 3?

[iron bone]

uh... for the new save stuff i will create a converter from the dramod save file when it loads and it will just sit in your main SC save.

so you won't have the secondary save file anymore

[hidden wraith]

Curious

[iron bone]

yeah you just go back to a port and the ship is waiting there for you

[severe dust]

huh?

disc 4 btw

[iron bone]

oh

are you still in rogue

and have not completed aglis?

[severe dust]

was prompted to go to magical city aglis, but i want to go to forbidden land

cant, then?

[severe dust]

nope

[iron bone]

complete aglis first when you get coolon the boat is waiting for you

[severe dust]

okay ty

[iron bone]

but at that point xd

[severe dust]

what do you mean 😭

[iron bone]

well i finished a disc 4 version phantom ship

but i just have you go there thorugh dra menu instead of randomly running into the ship on the world map

that would have been cool

[severe dust]

i am used to dra menu versus the more polished SC

[iron bone]

the dra menu will be in the main menu next update xd

[severe dust]

😭

[iron bone]

it is getting yoted

it's horrible

[hidden wraith]

Will the game state editor be unlocked again? Funny as heck to tele places you're not meant to and get clapped for a quarter million damage lol

[iron bone]

it was just a quick thing for beta

[iron bone]

only on full release

[hidden wraith]

Ahhh kk

[iron bone]

i have more balance changes i need to know people aren't editing gamestate for haha

[hidden wraith]

Ahhh fair fair

[iron bone]

things like story lloyd who gets his OHKO removed for something special in the next update.

[hidden wraith]

What about options that allow you to access an item a bit early for a build, but in return have some severe penalties?

[iron bone]

i am moving the black castle stuff to disc 4 to match it's intended use with ultimate boss and changing all special enemies to something different.

if i punish people for grinding we are going to have a ff13 progression style lock 😆

[hidden wraith]

🤣

[iron bone]

the lohan items are there if you really need it for some reason

[hidden wraith]

I do really like how you can add new npc's

[iron bone]

im trying to add master tasman to deningrad

[hidden wraith]

tasman?

[iron bone]

yeah

[hidden wraith]

Drawing a blank on that

[iron bone]

addition tutorial person from seles

[hidden wraith]

Ooooo

[ebon mica]

nuh, this hell mode a bit insane

just passed through Lenus and that grind make me sick

Dart's lvl 20

[iron bone]

lenus 1 isn't even the hard one anymore

[severe dust]

lenus regole will make u sick i think

im stuck on last kraken now just want to get out of aglis

[unborn flame]

How do the elemental arrows work for Shana/Miranda in this mod?

[iron bone]

they go into your inventory then you press up to access the secondary battle menu and they will be used up like ammo

[unborn flame]

oh thats sick! is if like flat damage or does it activate like a single target spell

[severe dust]

im getting so filtered by last kraken 😔

[severe dust]

oh my god, did it

[severe dust]

Rose had to put down the pen for last kraken 😔 thats a first

i think shes cooked

[iron bone]

i am not sure but aren't the cleone's or w/e light magic?

[severe dust]

water

their attacks are water-ele based as well, all magic

when he is low he casts powerful aoe water/thunder

i wouldve used haschel but the fight seemed to magic based for his thunder ele to be worth it imo

his water would oneshot my haschel and it seems 50/50 whether he aoe's water or thunder

[iron bone]

ah yes we have water dragon with water whirlpool and light rays
then we have magic clones with water rays and self destruct

[severe dust]

yes they water ray/self destruct, and when they are active the kraken aoes water/thunder to the party

[iron bone]

now is the self destruct fire element or something else

[severe dust]

idk it one shots anyone in my party

if it one shots dart with dragon helm + phys ring i assume its water

[iron bone]

there is an enemy guide on it that wulves made

[severe dust]

where can i find those?

idk he seemed more random than any boss so far i think, like he could summon cleones and/or one shot my party at any point in time, atleast below 60% (he has 66666 hp so below 39999). prob more frustrating than lenus/regole because i felt like i could atleast somewhat predict what they'd do

[iron bone]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Wy4S8o8ok7STUrXe03rio228gmRqjNYuEq9VPsF5GR8/edit?tab=t.0#heading=h.bzyw2p8mqcbk

I will verify some of the boss data in here when I go through the scripts themselves for Ultimate Boss.

[severe dust]

cleones stats are insane then

[severe dust]

@iron bone im in forbidden land and not understanding why it wont work?

nevermind ignore

[severe dust]

Defeated Commander. Fruegel 1 has no shown rewards in the ReadMe. Does he give XP?

[severe dust]

damn just beat him, why do some of these bosses have no rewards 😔

[iron bone]

use next ultimate boss, the selected ultimate boss is glitched

[severe dust]

36 inventory slots.... delicious

[severe dust]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfOaVvCA3GY @iron bone dude this is beautiful!!

[iron bone]

eventually™

[severe dust]

@iron bone is there recommended level and/or time to do the dragoons in vellweb? did first 3 ult bosses and polter armor so far

[iron bone]

50

oh wait no i changed it 40

[severe dust]

okay, ill go zenebatos then

after last kraken, did commander, fruegel, urobolos, polter (:

[sullen yew]

Zychronix
Can you give us link for the HD texture some in this video please 🥹

[sullen yew]

Please

[full bolt]

It's not yet public I believe

[rough tree]

Dunno if this is a severed chains issue but when a character uses a item, Healing HP MP items are severely reduced

[rough tree]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UOfFFkMrnZA

Not sure if it's related to Dragon Block Staff or not

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_QCTofZa-k

[full bolt]

Exactly the same issue I had

With Shana/??? also

https://youtu.be/f6AMWfJaqXE?si=cTKlQ6DyEchkX3p-&t=284

I had this issue on almost every boss fight where Shana was, starting from Doel

[iron bone]

oh no it's still there

[sweet wyvern]

Is that a dramod issue @iron bone?

[iron bone]

yes

i have no clue how that happens

[sweet wyvern]

Okay

[serene inlet]

i feel a bit silly for asking but I cant seem to add everyone at level 1. im right at the first moment you can control dart but im only seeing level sync, remove second/third slot, and swap all dragoons

[iron bone]

it's not available in the beta version of hell mode

[serene inlet]

aha that would be why. thanks!

[serene inlet]

if I wanted to implement a level 1 party in the hell mode how would I go about that?

[iron bone]

Don't think you can because i disabled gamestate editor

[serene inlet]

well damn. i was really looking forward to a playthrough with your difficulty mod and a shana rose meru team.

[unborn flame]

are there plans to make status items work vs bosses?

[iron bone]

some ultimate bosses will have status effects

ultimate fruegel has some status effects

[wraith tusk]

Why gamestate editor is disabled now?

[rough tree]

So you don’t cheat and outdo me

[serene inlet]

damn these mantis' in the prairies are tough.

is the fmvs for running water and such a dramod or severed chains thing?

[iron bone]

are you talking about the animated overlays on the water?

[sullen yew]

I finish chapter 1 with only dart in Hell mod 😁

[sullen yew]

https://youtu.be/lIfxJO-tnGY?si=Iw8qujHIMNKiAnGO

[unborn flame]

i miss this game...hows progress looking?

[iron bone]

it's going somewhere

[serene inlet]

yep the river in the prairie map and the water in the urobololus cave

also the readme seems to be out of date or im not using the beta correctly. the health values are too high and the commander didnt drop a Sabre

[fiery vault]

Question about editing tables on equipment (equip stats csv) I've updated text box descriptions on certain items, and that reflects in game accurately. I've tried renaming items (i.e. Bandit's Shoes > Dragoon Greaves) saved the table like normal, but in-game item is still called Bandit's Shoes. Is renaming equipment not possible?

[serene inlet]

had to farm up an extra level but that's urobololus down

[sweet wyvern]

That's part of the original game

[iron bone]

yes readme is out of date, use next ultimate boss button the other one is glitched

[iron bone]

did you change the registry id? you should be able to rename items as long as you don't change the registry id

[serene inlet]

thats rose tinted glasses for you.

[serene inlet]

pebcac my mistake i gotta get to flanvel for the ultimate boss rush. pardon me

[iron bone]

there is only 8 for now and with what someone has been cooking up i will probably nuke some things

[final agate]

yellow is damage, but whats the orange color represent?

[iron bone]

every boss gets a shield at certain hp intervals

if you use dramod's version of the HP bar you will see it

[serene inlet]

im trying to fool around a bit with modding. how do i connect to or download a maven repository?

[iron bone]

are you on windows, do you have any programming experience?

[serene inlet]

yes i am, no i do not. I only programmed in R for my degree. i can read java well enough but my experience falls short after.

I believe ive got gradle, intellij, and the jdk set up right but when i try to run the dramod repo it fails to compile classes. also no rush i know it's the holidays

[sweet wyvern]

You need to clone SC and run the gradle task publishToMavenLocal

Note you need to use Zychronix's branch of SC

[serene inlet]

ill give that a shot and see what i can do.

[fiery vault]

I left the registry the same, in case I wanted to add items to certain shops later. In-game name of item still remained the same

[iron bone]

OH

I didn't put in the ez recompile for hell mode beta. It will be in the full release.

Every time DraMod is starts it will update the LANG files. This is not in the beta release.

[fiery vault]

So, for now, no renaming items.
No worries, not a major deal, lol. Thanks.

[fiery vault]

Another question. In regards to the Angel Robe+Holy Ankh combo, the tables show 40 revive and 40 status chance per item, meaning the understood 80% chance to revive automatically. I put all four values to 50 to test if you'd be immortal. After a few deaths, I still got a game over.

Are the true values not able to be adjusted, or is there maybe a limit to the number of revives in one battle?

[iron bone]

Hell mode auto adjusts revive change to cap at 60%

It's why I don't recommend people editing hard and hell mode datasets because it has so much of my specific things in it. You'll be able to make your own like in the older versions.

[fiery vault]

So it's hard-coded now for this build of hell mode, or permanently for hell mode?

[iron bone]

Permanent

[fiery vault]

Gotcha. Cool beans.
I was going to try it out for Shana, make her immortal for lore reasons, lol.

[dim sapphire]

Hey, played your mod before, but old version on emu, might aswell try the beta

but I am not sure whats the correct version, i found a beta 1, and a beta 1.3, is 1.3 the newest?

@iron bone just 1.3, and all good? You said that some minor versions like 1.3.x only release on this dc, but i couldn't find any, found you posting some test files, and fixing some user problems manually though...

[iron bone]

just version 1.3, i am working on 1.4 currently

[dim sapphire]

Guess I just had to learn what "smart app control" is, and nuked it. anyone else having this pop up with the mod? Or did you already nuke the security stuff before? Its some weird option that can never be reactivated other than doing a complete windows reinstall

[iron bone]

You downloaded the zip file from the github page and ran launch.bat (I am assuming you are on windows)

[dim sapphire]

yeah, thats what I did, to late now anyway, I deactivated that nonsense XD

[iron bone]

i think you've installed something weird previously before downloading dramod for severed chains

[dim sapphire]

I can assure you I did not, this is a normal windows function that pretty much just says "No" if you want to open a downloaded exe of bat from an untrusted source. I doubt windows knows about this app, even less so this beta. But don't worry about it, I mainly wrote this to inform you it might happen to others who wanna install this.

[serene inlet]

bit of a softlock in the valley of distored gravity. some rocks un render and make back tracking impossible. a jump on ! appears but the rock is unrendered and does not move.

[untold zealot]

got a video so we can investigate?

[sweet wyvern]

Did you save there?

[serene inlet]

yep. give me a second to get a screen recording

[serene inlet]

yep

[sweet wyvern]

That's why

You'll need to warp out using the debugger

I wouldn't use save anywhere in VoCG at all, too many janky scripts

[serene inlet]

yerp thats a good idea. hadnt even thought of it.

[hidden wraith]

In theory, could one add custom areas to the map using alternate scripts? Just a curious thought

[sweet wyvern]

You can add new maps to Severed Chains but it does take more than scripts

[cursive grail]

Hi all, sorry for the dumb question, but where can I find the read me file that explains all the additional abilities like siphon overflow? I opened the read me file that was in the zip with the hell mode beta but I don't think that is the right one. I think I'm just looking in the wrong place lol. Thank you in advance!

[iron bone]

#1197976055923888218 message

[cursive grail]

Thank you so much! Also thank you for all the work you have done on this. Ive been following your youtube for years and have just gotten around to playing your mod.

[serene inlet]

how do you play around bosses getting their turn ahead of the tracker? specifically lenus' fight in fletz castle. feels like if i hit a damage gate she gets her turn, then does a physical attack and a magic attack in one action

[full bolt]

Do you transform into dragoon?

If yes, that's the issue, Lenus has a special thing where she kinda go berserk if you have dragoons on your side, better keep yourself from transforming until you're ready to quickly burst and finish her

[serene inlet]

yeah i was opening with a special. Interesting. ill give that a try. i bought some angel scarfs and it feels like they dont do anything. ill have to test it to see if my intuition is wrong

[serene inlet]

worked like a charm thanks a bunch! i did not know lenus went so hard against dragoons.

[full bolt]

Yeah and only the 1st one, the 2nd fight does not have this mechanic

[serene inlet]

yeah im seeing that. odd. i guess the second one she has a dragon so shes chilling

[modest dawn]

Hi, there is no turbo for this, right? Dying over and over with the hell mode and having to sit through dialogues is quite painful

I keep dying to the first boss because the magic just destroys me and... uhh.. yeah