#Dragoon Modifier
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Ok I have planned up to Ultimate Boss #30
Now time to code the rest of them.
I really want to know how far you can go with Solo
I think somewhere in disc 4 you will get yeeted.
Well, now I have a goal, to see how far I can actually make it
I will say, I have actually had to plan out some bosses pretty well
If people want to place bets on which boss brick walls me, feel free
I did previously brick a run at virage 1 by saving after shana left the party just before the fight
Maybe Divine dragon (since he has been buffed I believe) or the Zenebatos boss fight
WHAT DID KONGOL DO TO DESERVE THIS
I keep forgetting which enemies spam status effects when injured, I almost just died to bewitchment
also, this is a face
Hmmm, I get the feeling, I need a different person to fight Kamuy, given the damage Rose is taking...
I was about to make a huge mistake, and have Kongol fight Kamuy on the rematch
rose vs Kamuy failed, lets try Meru
Kamuy and Polter Armor are meant to be done later in hell mode.
Hey
I am gonna try
and uh... Meru is doing Okay
I have Kamuy down to about 11k right now
and now I cry
I forgor that rose dipped for a bit after that, so I had to swap the stuff to Kongol >w>
sometimes I really hate the escape rate in this game >.>
You duplicitous bastard
Guess I need to grind some money
Holy shit that's an insane price wtf
I could just debug the money in, but then I cant show off how many hours it took
Well these items are not that expensive when ultimate boss will give like 10k gold
When does Albert get Rose storm? I am at emperor doel, and he's hitting for 600-1500hp to dart/Albert/rose when they are in human form. I have them all at D'level 3. I might sub someone out for Herschel... But I was looking in the wiki, and Rose storm isn't listed as Alberts Dragoon magic.... Just the spinning gale which I don't recall ever being there in the original
When can I access ultimate boss mode? Almost at the end of disc 2
next update will be up to 30 which is "zone 4 boss 2"
Also how do I create a solo only run with let's say kongal as my starting main unit without the others joining the party? Am curious cause of the other guy pushing solo lol
my problem is i have to rewrite the script of at least two of them
use gamestate editor for now i turned off solo mode for the beta
Ahh, not sure how to access that ill just wait for an official release to enable it then
Wiki maybe not the best term, but on here:
https://github.com/Legend-of-Dragoon-Modding/sc-dragoon-modifier/blob/hellmode/mods/dramod-readme.txt
not all changes are posted there
Ok thanks. What level is everyone at to take on doel? Base game I think I was usually in the 13-16 level range, 2-3 D'level. I'm level grinding haschel right now to get some of his additions levelled up to see if he will help haha.
Doel had first try done but shana and dart both were dragoon level 6 😅 haschel was my third
If you use elude cloak each time he goes to melee you have a 25% chance to ignore the entire hit, his magic is what hurt so just used shana as a healing bot to brute force it, I was i think 16 or 17 when I did it
Be warned, his shield is a pain in the ass lol
That's a lot of grinding to get to D'level 6 lol.
I uh was working on catching shana up, she got shafted half of disc one
I fought him as solo Haschel, so I forget the sensible level, think I was level 16 last time I fought doel normally?
Haha I have left her behind a bit as well at this point. Maybe should try lol
Normally being what the rest of you schmucks are doing : p
On hell mode solo?
I highly recommend getting the dragon helm for her, nearly fixes all her issues
Yes
Hmm. That sounds impossible haha.
I’m in disk 3
Can you dm me how to use the editor
I wanna try a solo hell mode run too, you got me motivated 😂
I beat Kamuy solo at level 34
Which was, for the record, the first possible instance to fight Kamuy for me
I used the stuff thats currently in dramod 1.3, the remove slot 2 and 3 from the dramod menu
Afterwork are we able to vc so you can walk me through it? Only need to see it once or twice and will be good, just dont wanna risk bricking the game 🤣 so I'll have to create a copy of all the files minus my current save first
That helm is in Lohan right? Wasn't it like over 13k gold?
Yes
But you can easily farm 00 parts for 600 gold a fight
And i mean easily
Oh I forgot about zero parts ... That's on the map screen right?
Yes
Shana hits the 00 parts for 2 damage each, so two hits with her is GG
It's been a couple years since I've played, and I jumped straight into hell mode haha
IF she is leveled enough, yes
Trueee
Oof
Lol yeeted my buddy into it for his first time playing lod
Told em id buy em a steam game if he beats it
Biggest things to worry about solo: status effects
Oh i can definitely believe it, virage insta death mechanic would be hell
I saw it and was like I gotta try lol. And so far it's been a blast.... Up until doel one hits everyone lmao
Confusion and bewitchment too
And stone
And you have two options, pray the status attack misses, or equip an accessory to deal with it
Tonight will be fighting ol ice Princess at end of disc 2, I've heard she's been utter hell and gatekept several people
Sometimes… and accessory to deal with it isnt an option solo stares at ghost commander fight
This one is catastrophic cause that item slot is so important
I’m sad I had to betray my baby, therapy ring
That thing carries
But uh… fake solidarity ring was a godsend
Especially with 70 speed
You have NO idea
I haven't found this yet
What's it do?
“Raises stats when alone” and gives 5%hp regen, 5 mp regen, 10 sp regen, mp and sp when hit, and 10% max hp and mp
The real thing costs 99999
😅
The fake costs 300
Wait
Those stats were for the fake
300? Where do I buy lol
Uh… just after the phantom ship in act 2
Oh also @south snow for shana I am using the angels clothing, 40% chance to revive
This came clutch a few times on doel
That ring singlehandedly let meru clap Lenus 2
Ahh kk
On her first try
🤣
That is a serious, no joke statement
Where do you get that?
I used 0 healing items vs Lenus 2, because meru, who hadnt been used before then, gained dragoon level 3 using the ring while I unlocked her additions, and tben proceeded to slap the shit out of her and her dragon
Go to Lohan, and on the mr dabus dude on the right side of the scaffolding, there is a little chest outside of screen, if you have an ultra wide monitor you can see it, if not it's hidden and you have to spam interact while running off screen lol
Lmaoooo thats awesome
Im worried about dart getting shafted due to his elemental typing
He will be
Dude his additions are hitting for over 1200 in dragoon form, just about to have his final human form addition and dragoon lv 7
A fully defensively speced meru was taking like 450 damage at level 32?
And thats a pretty big lead on what your dart will have
I think I dont hit lv 32 even on vanilla run until long after the Lloyd rematch fight where he uses dragonbuster
I havent been excessively grinding
"Yet" 😉
Ie, I MIGHT be one level up from where solo should be
What made you go meru over someone else?
Well, more now after meru clapped kamuy
Early
Do not recommend that btw
It was TENSE
But I have been swapping who I am using as I go, so its not a “meru only” its literally just one character at a time
Also start of disc 3 you can get a missable amulet and has the same effect as the angel clothing, BUT THEY STACK so you can get 80% chance to revive for free each time you die, freaking stupid
Do note you will have a bit lower stats but basically having an immortal character is too good to pass
Are you level matching them?
Duh, grinding is cringe, cheating is based
🤣 🤣
Joke aside, yes, it saves me a lot of time fighting because dart has like, 20k more exp than meru?
let me answer that for you
no
kongol suffers HEAVILY for his magic defense, even ignoring all the optional bosses, he would still have to deal with all of Melbu's magic
Where's the amulet? I need to take notes lol.... I don't think I've ever seen or had these items lol
speaking of, I have to debug in the regular amulet, mine is just... gone?
Amulet is in the castle at start of disc 3, before divine dragon wrecks it, when you enter the castle it's in a chest in the left side if you keep trying to check left rooms cant miss it
Forgot about melbu
If you checked the game notes for kongals new passive, he gets 200 move speed and healing each time he's hit
Thanks. I might have had that one then haha. Can't back track once get to doel....the NPC at the top of the tunnel system sends you back down. No trip to Lohan or 00parts for me until doel defeated lol
that only ticks if he get hits, its 2% regen on his turn, not healing from being hit
though it DOES give him 20% damage reduction
I MIGHT change my mind after I see the stats of the Solidarity ring
Slap a therapy ring on him with dragon helm, dragon helm makes therapy ring 25% more hp healed cause you get 50% more health
So add on the 2% from his new passive
Between dmg reduction and forcing counter turns it can add up fast
in phase one Zera? yes
No worries, if you wanna see exactly where they are just ping me
once he loses the tentacle arm things... nope
Tentacle arms? Oh my we going 18+ 😂 😂 😂
the most you will get is a turn after every Melbu turn (which is STILL a lot)
but you are talking 12% healing
and HOPING you are not taking more
Yup
which I am playing with enrage turned on, so if Melbu hits for more than 12% at the start... thats game over practically speaking
Never know til you try 😁
now, I am not saying there 100% is no way to do it
because I will certainly do it
if a line exists, I will find it
Thats how I beat Virage 2 (the corrupted gravity Virage)
I used Shana to beat it
a completely unused till that point shana
He actually wasn't too bad, long as you get past the instadeath, he didn't do much damage and if he hit with status Just dragoon to remove
he isnt too bad... if you have 3 party members
Lavitz/Albert cant stand up to the beam and lightning arm, Haschel cant stand up to the beam long term, kongol... Meru didnt have the hp to keep up later in the fight, Rose lacked the HP and defenses... Shana has an interesting amount of defense, mdef, and hp...
Dude merus hp is only reason I haven't tried her in hell mode
With how hard stuff hits im like how tf is she supposed to live
The ol dark souls ref lol
Oh, I should point out, I have turned secondary character EXP gain up to 100%
Is that needed if you're level matching?
Hmm
Welp lunch break over, back to work we go weee
Hmm, Ominous ??? option in the Dramod menu
... I'm stupid, I could just have Shana and Miranda doing this grind
I may be the only person to have ever encountered this... Shana does more damage than miranda
What would yall say is the hardest characters to use in hell mode?
Im not sure but I think I already saw someone talk about this in this channel
its not important info, but it is funny, so if I am not the first, I am the re-iterator
Reason I asked is contemplating giving rose a try
depends on the point in the game
Entire run lol
Meru would have a hard time in the early game, Kongol is fineish until the sandoran elite then gets destroyed
I think... if you get Meru out of the early game she has the easiest time, and I think albert or kongol have the hardest time
Rose I think would have a difficult time all around
Rose i kinda see as an alternative dart but with lower hp and a healing spell
Oh also where is the legend casque and phantom shield? They weren't in stock at Lohan
we threw those in the trash, people were actually using them to make the game easy (I dont actually know where they are, they are the least of my concern, Solidarity ring my beloved < 3)
welp, scarred super virage time (I stopped grinding money, do not have the solidarity ring atm, decided to try and grind the rest of the money from the ultimate bosses... solo >w>)
I should probably just be defending this honestly
grand jewel time!
the dancing lights caught me off guard with their damage
so, level 37 vs the grand jewel, I need to have 1900 hp to SAFELY attack on any given turn, incase turn order decides to be wonky... here's how thats looking right now
And here I thought Kamuy was bad
I forgot that the Grand Jewel healed QwQ
Please grand jewel, I'm divorced, my wife already took the kids, let me kill you in peace QwQ
people meru nerf 
no i buffed her more what do people mean.
Oh no, Meru has been a Godsend, and I think you for it
the only thing that might be more op than meru is ring of reversal kongol.
i should check on that........
Thats... actually a strat I hadnt considered
im 100% sure i will nerf it
I'll cry in my solo corner when you do
in your defense, I am not playing the game "as intended"
hardest part of this fight, is that dancing lights hits like a truck
I am curious how many ultimate bosses I will make it through solo, if any
some of them hit over 10k
I like those odds
In other news, I still havent removed all the healing it did
Finally below the healing value!
Did you dragoon?
what? oh, I only dealt with the jewel, I havent gotten to Divine
I'm dreading that fight a bit
I'm guessing that means I shouldnt dragoon for DD, even for a moment
do tell, what is this magical ring for big bonk man?
Nooo that's when you SHOULD transform FULL SEND
Okay wtf i don't get this
I'm struggling on haschel and darts final additions timing, but lazily using my right pinky finger acing them no issues wtf
Wait question
The +50% SP weapons, does that work for Shana's dramod spell casting bonus?
Cause for example even white silver dragon gained me bonus SP
Awww so 50% regardless alright
Yeah
that's a bug
Noticed it once, let me go try it right quick
Wait i need to find something that can survive eating 1500 lol
Trash mob won't live long enough to check sp
How broken do you consider the MP ring? Gaining 10% per turn, even if let's say you make the buy cost on it like 50k for early on?
Hey! you have 1/10th my money!
TO BE FAIR! Two dragon helms trashed my supply lol, NEEDED 1 for shana to fix her stats, the second went to haschel cause got tired of him being half dead off 1 attack each time
I bought 1
1 is what i intended but well.... hascel low hp won me over >.>
stares in solo
Bright side, not using level matching so i gotta oldschool grind em up 😄
their current stats right before lenus fight
Ignore the hours, take off like a solid 12 from afking doing other stuff
I'm 41 hours in at divine dragon
Nice
spent a few hours grinding money
00 parts i found to be most consistent
yup
I'm so happy, she finally doesn't lose half her health to anything, and can dish out over 600 a turn without mana
Dude that asshole kept targetting her I KID YOU NOT at least two out of every three attacks with the insta death, first time i ran through all my angels revives, and the robes didn't work on it
Talisman
interesting, there was 1 chest i did not go collect, i'll have to run over to see if its that
The ONLY item i'm missing other than the shop legend casque and phantom armor i asked about earlier, is strangely the silver stone (cuts all light attacks in half), i got the other stones, just not the silver one which caught my attention early on
I could have actually used that vs the grand jewel, but fake solitary ring
I know, you mentioning that is what reminded me of it
The ones i been scared to buy cause the descriptions changed, the dragon shield and scarf, which cut each style of dmg in half, now says it also lowers your defense to that respective style but nowhere does it say by how much in the stats menu
So haven't risked any gold on them yet
IFFFF i got one, may be the magic one, even with shana at over 110 magic resist, she still gets clapped by some spells
dragon helm : 3
Divine dragon so tanky
I wasnt paying attention, and got NUKED
O.O
1620 damage
from a fire spell
I recognize I should probably be using dart for this fight
🤣
no water spells, powerful fire spell... yea
the increase in damage from wind spells might be a problem, we'll see
I suppose I CAN dragoon vs Divine dragon and see what happens >.>
huh... 7k damage
QwQ this is a damage race, I want off
If he uses his cannon, the strong fire spell, and cannon all while I am guarding, I might BARELY survive
from full hp
WOOOO
Divine dragon beaten!
Niiiice, on lenus here, did not expect her to slap haschel and shana for near 1500
Thats what Meru is for
Also failing my additions averaging 45 dmg on her 🤬
Yea failed additions hurt a lot
Thats why I just summoned dragons vs the Divine Dragon
Meru had a real MP workout
I'm still lower dragoon level than you xD
Meru is almost dragoon level 6
Niiiice
level 40 now after divine dragon btw
Nice
Hell yeah dude!
I am eating shit right now, went in with SP at 100~ and getting fucked for getting cocky lmao
Please no, I have a solo run to consider QwQ
It still amazes me how well you're doing with that btw. Like thats an insane achievement xD
My hope is by the end of tomorrow, I will have beaten Lloyd, boss fights are getting long
doing full party, or solo
Full party lol
where are you stuck
I was stuck on lenus part 2 for a day or two, but managed to get past her after grinding a bit more dragoon level on dart. Currently in the evergreen woods now. I've never been the best at knowing which gear is best on each character
well, using Dart vs Lenus 2 was already iffy
two decently powerful water magic users in one fight
Special mode of his dragoon is actually what saved me more often than not
and the dragon has a decently high counter attack rate
I found that fight easier focusing down Lenus and then killing the dragon
Other times my team just got insta-wiped by Regolus
That tidal wave attack is insane
Meru should have done decently well at surviving if she wasnt being doubled into constantly
for the record, Meru is who soloed that fight for me
I have to pick the best defensive options, otherwise I lose, Rocket tag is not a game I can play = D
for the forest, instant death protection and bewitchment for regular enemies
specifically the stupid peacock bastards you need bewitchment protection, and the elf fuckos you need instant death protection
Yeah I just focus them out immediately, I remembered their bs from base game xD
Yea...
Hello Denningrad~
Kamuy can be avoided atleast
(and bye rose and meru xD)
but after that is... grand jewel?
Yeah I'm doing them later
Fortunately for Meru, Grand jewel has no fire attacks, it uses wind earth and light elements
unfortunately for Meru, dancing lights is super fucking strong
Shana is probably your best bet to survive that one
sorry
Miranda
Yeah, debating on if I keep the bandit duo gear on Haschel, or the physical evasion gear I've got (gets me up to 45%)
I'd say bandit gear is fine for generic fights, but swap him based on the boss you are fighting, like using the silver stone vs Grand jewel on either him or Meru and give the other a physical ring or something
Ok
I'm just hoping I haven't missed any important gear at this point. I do need to go back at some point and probably get that helm from Lohan
I dont know if you have a dragon helm or not
Nope xD
Yeah, I was not about that gold farm at that time though lol
the gold farm is super easy though, charm potions and talisman on Shana with a longbow
works at any point in the game vs 00 parts
(was sick at the time I was at that stage of the game, so things like that were just a no xD)
Yeah, is there ever another better gold farm in the game or nah? I don't recall
technically yes, but actually no
since 00 parts you can lock down
I actually recommend having only shana or miranda with a talisman on, and an inventory of as many charm potions as you can
equipped with the longbow
Why the charm potions? Doesn't that reduce encounter rate?
if used out of battle, yes
if used in battle, enemies cant attack you for 3 of your turns
...... oh
and 00 parts CANT FLEE unless he uses his instant death attack
I never knew it had an in combat use xD
but he cant attack you if you use a charm potion
so 00 parts is literally stuck there unable to act
Is there an act 1 zone where you can buy charm potions?
yes
its in most every act 1 item shop
I use Lohan cause its slightly faster to get to that item shop
Yeah I still have it
good
I don't really sell weapons that give any sorta buff
you wont guaranteed hit, but it will be VERY frequent
I hoard a lot of gear xD
Also, I need to figure out when dancers shoes are available
you could go the high risk high reward route, and use the wargod talisman or amulet, whatever one it is, for the 20% accuracy buff, but then you risk instant death, which if you are solo, 00 parts crashes your game as it doesnt know what to do when the enemy flees, but you are in a game over state
I dont think shana/miranda can miss with wargod thing + longbow btw
Yeah longbow should be enough
with that MASSIVE 150% accuracy
I have a dream, that one day, Zy will tell us what the stats of the solitary rings are, cause I have figured out some of them, but it says it raises stats, and I dont know if that includes attacks/defenses/speed, or just max hp/mp+ hp/mp/sp regens + on hit restoration for mp and sp
Yeah
I’m at like 53% gold for the solitary ring
I’m holding off for now, gonna see if I cant solo an ultimate boss or two for some extra cash
Good luck xD
I’ve been saying that every bossfight
I almost gave up and grinded for two bosses thus far, and I did probably unnecessarily grind for one, virage 1(volcano) I grinded lavitz to maxed additions, which pushed him to level 13 (I did the grinding back in the cave instead of the volcano) virage 2 I used shana as a hail mary, and she cleaned up shop… slowly, but still. And then there’s Doel. Haschel had a hell of a time in that fight
Yeah I remember seeing your posts about that, wasn't it something like 113 attacks for Haschel?
Yes
Omg I love Miranda's pic for turn order, it's so fitting as she looks so angry xD
Welp got cocky and went into lenus with only 1 dragoon level charge on half my team, spent over an hour fighting tooth and nail against her and had her ALMOST dead in the red before i ran out of items and MP... So now kicking myself in the nuts for not precharging my stuff lmao
I fought the grand jewel for an hour and a half yesterday
windigo is such a breath of fresh air after Divine dragon
I'm def looking forward to it, making sure not to make the same mistake and leveling my addition up and dragoon reserve level, additions were also sub 20/80 charge cause was still working on them lmao
Went back to valley of corrupted gravity, got that talisman i mentioned missing, and just working by the rock fireflies to get my addition up
does anyone have a chart of the addition damage multipliers?
by level, or just maxed?
once I finish this fight I can post everyone maxed except rose and kongol
kongol has 0 uses, so posting him is pointless
Damn i gotta do a playthrough with lavitz his scaling is dumb
You use bandit ring and boots with lavits @nova mulch
?
normal game, yes, hell mode, no
since he gets nerfed speed gain, def just slapping things like therapy ring on
Wait I thought only kongal got the half speed from items?
at one point Zy said lav was getting the speed nerf too
Awwwww rip
Other than meru who'd you say is your favorite for solo run?
fun fact, I never use Albert until I am forced to
Meru Haschel and Lavitz have been the stand out units
with Shana and Dart having important notable appearances
Kongol and Rose have yet to meaningfully contribute (kongol hasnt even seen combat)
Im still flabbergasted on meru despite her low hp and physical defense
a lot of the back half of the game have less threatening physical, and more threatening magical
Yup I remember that on the wiki
But even so a solid 2 back to back physical blows can really do a number
the biggest threat since I started using meru... was divine dragon, followed by Grand Jewel
both of them for their magical damage
to put this in perspective for you Zera, DD dealth 300-450 damage throughout the fight with physical damage
its weakest spell dealt 450-660
🤨
its strongest spell was a fire spell that hit meru for 1620
Damn higher than i thought
its cannon dealth 1180ish?
Lmaooo
Ultimate signature move doing a third less than a spell 😅 😅
Ahhh true forgot element
thinking on it... I might have guarded every cannon shot
but I only remember that one damage number, so that was probably the damage being halved
Hmm
Once i get there I'll do a non guard test
Granted my level one be anywhere near as high as yours
Wont
I was only... 39
Im barely over 20 😂
there are plenty of bosses until then
oh, and I DID kill Kamuy right away, which Zy said was meant for a little later
Meru is a trooper
this does mean, Ring of Reversal Kongol is probably the best unit in the game in counter stance
oh, and grand jewel's powerful light spell dealt 2199 damage to meru btw Zera
If not I'll just deal with the max
unguarded
Wtf
Yea, I cant go back and change that, so there ya go
I was wearing slightly different armor than usual, so her mdef was a BIT lower
Also killing the Super Virage in Kadessa was a pain but I did it
Noice
Bros HP was 64000 plus like an extra 15000 of padded armor
I had to let the scarred super virage kill itself
I don't blame you
I use Dart, Albert and Kongol and it was 2 turns away from using the laser move Turns Remaining 0
I'm playing with 1 character, I dont stand a chance
you all play a DPS race, I am playing a DPS ultra marathon
I think the only boss left that I really dread, is the one in the law city
Fuck, I think I have to make Rose fight Imago
I... also need her to beat the law city zenebatos bosses... fun
Good news, It's lloyd time
better news, I believe in the geneva suggestions
lloyd is... easier than expected so far
so i wonder if he is easier on solo with increased speed
idk i might just edit his script
I think you need to hit him one more time and he'll use his "pillars" attack before dying
He used his pillars attack when he hit 0
Oh
Nice, gg!
Please nerf things after I finish
I'm only looking at boss buffs
Fair enough
and lloyd is hard to balance because you can just talisman him. clearly the increased speed didn't do too much
stay in dragoon on a character with equipped talisman and lloyd becomes a cake walk
Oh, I just exited dragoon form every time I used it
since my talisman just... vanished
?
I never sold it, but I dont have it anymore
also, a reminder for everyone, dont take my run as a measure for anything, I am playing solo, so my levels are higher, causing damage to be... less than expected
Heeeeey Kongol
I might have found a use for you
Kongol vs the ultimate bosses
kongol might max out his additions this fight
... ok, that didnt work
Meru got dumpstered, so hopefully Haschel does better
Hmmmmmmmmm Meru... you arent looking so bad right now
Back to Meru
see if she can beat the first ultimate boss
Okay fire attack dragoon level 6 is busted on lenus
Near 4k dmg at 3800 WTF 😂 😂
Dart is lv 22 ^
Ok, this is MUCH better, Meru vs Commander
oh god, actual practical strategic use of dragoon form is mattering
fight is going a direction other than forwards or backwards
I was concerned when he started throwing spells, then I remembered.... I'm meru
Ultimate boss 1, defeated
even styled on him by winning at full hp
Niiice
I wanna do the ultimate boss fights too lmao but gotta progress
Have you done the 50 stardust dude yet?
Was he disk 4? I feel like it was disk 3 huh
Been a hot minute since I played past divne dragon 😅
the guy himself is in the disk 3 area, but you need the stardust from disk 4 to fight him
Ahhhhh
Oh yea... I can afford any item in the ultimate shop
... I COULD get the Magic hammer
but I dont know if that will do what I want it too....
oh...
OH
my life either just got much easier, or much harder
Ultimate boss 2, more of a thought experiment
that one is interesting
wingly state ran out of mp?
no, it had MP
3 more water dragons to kill freugal
... if I can survive that long
ok, this battle is won, just need to actually get the kill
Not going to lie, I wasnt expecting to actually be able to kill one of these guys, let alone 2
I should beat the third one just fine
.... Ok, I can already tell, no matter what I manage to do elsewhere... ultimate ghost commander will be impossible to solo
stupid max health reduction
Hmmm, when do I wanna spend 3 hours getting the money for the solitary ring...
Also, pain, the cutscene for killing the snake again
in other news, Dlvl 7 Meru = D
hmm, I hit the Sandoran elite for 8008 damage
Hey I have an issue. One of my saves has an "invalid save". Is their a way to recover this save?
@sweet wyvern Is it because there are too many side profiles?
What do you mean by side profiles
There are 3 others
The 3.5 is the main one
That's the important one hopefully that can be recoveredd
I was grinding OOParts for gold
It should log the error that caused it to be unreadable in the console
and the game was freezing ever 2 seconds so I saved it
Where can I go to access that?
The black window that pops up when you run SC
ok for that whole profile Dragoon Modifier was turned off for some reason
I turned it back on and reset it
This is what pops up when I try to load it
I assume this is the invalid save that it logged
Do I need to edit something in that log?
Both of those files you sent are completely blank
There's nothing that can be done for those saves, there's no data in them
Damn that sucks ok then
You should always save in a new slot instead of overwriting your old saves in case something happens
Ok will do
Errrr, I've been overriding save each time... Will manually at end of the day taking a working backup and putting it in a separate folder old school style also work?
You're welcome, sorry we couldn't do anything
Sort of but you should just make new saves, there's no reason to overwrite
Kk
It's still in beta, so I signed up for it. In the words of Dart
Sage words my friend
The frontier is trying to kill me (I finally got off my ass and am in the death frontier)
11k HP WORM
is there by chance a way to get mostly vanilla party stats, with the boss difficulty on this? i havent downloaded it yet. been busy just figured id ask
no not really
Ok, so
I have encountered a problem
Counterstance needs some other end condition than number of turns gained from using it
I'm uh.... I'm stuck
he wont attack Kongol
try ctrl+w
wait... does that just win fights?
huh
Thats the second time I could have used that
right this normal mob has do nothing unless attacked
first area I am using Kongol btw = D
Kongol put in some work vs the last kraken, unfortunately for kongol, I did not have the attention span to deal with that level of problem
he took over 2k damage from the cannon
so instead I use Meru, who has... only water damage...
in more fun news, I hit the level sync exp cap
At the very least, I can say I beat 1 disk 4 boss without grinding = D
the more I think about it, the more I dont think the Zenebatos boss fight is gonna go well
Well, thats a Rose problem, not a me problem
Oh yea... anyone figure out what all the one ring does?
besides raise every stat by 1?
oh. nvm thats in the documentation
I... Almost wanna use that
I can almost afford the solitary ring!
Mmmm solitary ring
no
I took a break from progress to grind gold : 3
I am curious as to how good the crystal gear is, but thats a problem for another time
currently killing ultimate boss 4
I am greeding so hard for this victory
Wooo!
4/8 down solo
Oh... he gave exp
wait... drake only does physical damage... doesnt me
I might have forgotten to use my repeatables vs the sandoran elite >.>
oooooo, this might be bad
Does uh... does ultimate drake's magic shield ever go away?
Yea... pretty sure I am in an unwinnable state because of my magic hammer >.>
You have to hit him 6 times.
....
I uh... I completely restarted the fight and beat him to death with Dart using physical attacks to avoid the barrier >.>
riiiiiiiiiiiiight, Jiango has confusion
it's perfect shield so physical attacks shouldn't have worked unless you hit him 6 times
Soooo madness hero? Hits like 8 times 😂 🤣 jk
I uh... I was wondering why that one physical attack didnt hurt him actually >>;;
Would giving meru the mp regen ring, make it so her ice shield for 15% health regen on guarding equal out like darts soul eater with therapy ring work?
magic hammer works for that too
since that also gives a lot of mp regen
Jiango dead : 3
Where is the hammer from?
ultimate shop, its 40k : D
Hmmm
The ultimate shop is not easy to buy anything from prior to ultimate boss fights
its easy enough
I made way more money way faster with 00 parts and charm potion abuse
I forgot fruegal had power ups
Lol, got dropped off in Seles too
It was at this moment I remembered, I fucked up..... Hi Firebird....
O.O
4k damage from letting all the little orbs live
I've lost to firebird twice with Meru without ever attacking xD
well, dealing damage
and sure, dart PROBABLY first trys this fight
Nice, debating on restarting the hell mode run here to give rose a try lol
Since I ran out of hellmode exclusive stuff, its basically a mad dash to the end for me
IE, I soloed all 8 ultimate bosses
Niiice, how hard would you say they are without spoilering too much vs when you natively ran into them?
You dont really "run into them" you have to go activate them, plus they level cap you for the fights
as for how hard they are... it required some strategy but wasnt TOO bad for the ones currently available
Awwww.. Was hoping they'd surprise bend ya over and REALLY make you need to minmax lol
I'd say so far my hardest boss fight i ever had was that stupid ninja at Hoax disc 1, lavitz getting 2 shot really screwed you for figuring out which clone to attack
I'll rank them in what I found difficulty order to be with my setup, 4th, 1st, 2nd, 8th, 5th, 6th, 7th, 3rd
3rd the hardest? Curious
you... you can look at the shadows
that was hardest to easiest
WAIT WHAAAAAAT!!!!!!
You have GOT to be kidding me
the one with the largest shadow is the real one
That got a hearty laugh out of me
well, atleast you know now
time to fight the polter armor with a level 48 rose >w>
I feel bad for polter armor, I am so used to fighting things with over 100k hp now, that his seems cute in comparison
🤣
yea.... that wasnt exactly a fair fight xD
wow, full hp Meru feels weird after all those ultimate boss fights
Why you break my heart, I HAD SALVATION!!! 😂
Btw do you have a notepad readme showing exactly what passives and stats the ultimate shop gear offer? That way i can plan out a build later... 🙂
^My personal rule is can only buy ONE item, but a few had some very curious descriptions i'd wanna playtest but they all expensive lol
i haven't done the math yet but i think you'll be able to buy 3 completing zone 3 and zone 4 will drop like 10k gold per fight
i have no readme yet
In the patch I am running (1.3) it still works : P
but uh... the ultimate boss sandoran elite doesnt pull that shite, cause its the OTHER Sandoran elite : 3
in other news... get rekt
Wait wtf?
Problem?
How you got so many turns dude LOL
dancer shoes speed up speed down
Speed up wore off
I also had to leave dragoon form because I realized I forgot to power down then power up
power down?
Reduce enemy attack and defense
Also HOW THE HELL DOES MERU HAVE NEAR 500 MP
Dragoon level 7, magic hammer, Solitary ring
Ahhhh the ring and hammer
Mostly the hammer
If I hadnt fucked up the power down power up, he would have died in 3 hits
taking over 30k each hit : D
Problem?
30k...
I know, its a low damage number
I was hitting ultimate Fire bird for 40k with power down and up during his final enrage bonus
Ain't no waaaay
fire bird DOES have a weakness to Water
Yeah but still, you'd have to still hit 20k
Yes
🤔
Maybe the level too? Your solo play has been VERY high compared to a 3 party, i'm going off just 3 party non level matching progress atm
I mean, level matching doesnt even work anymore
🤨
that stopped at 160k exp
interesting, i think the highest even vanilla i ever got was somewhere 32-37 range ish, so wasn't sure how much 160k actually equaled out to
btw Zera...
LMFAO Meru v Meru Love it XD
she snuck in a turn
What's the blue bar under the dragoon one?
Oooo
for an easy visual
I always went off the little needle arrow above their head\
dragoon vs dragoon
brb puppy wants to go out
and yes, I am going to be using water magic vs the water dragoon, I have the magic hammer equipped, I dont have a choice xD
and now to cry as that dealt 6900 damage... this will be the longest dragoon fight by far
I regret not using Haschel for this
Nice 😉
Oh also random question, how hard of a vanilla playthrough would it be to have a rule to never be allowed to buy, equip, or resupply more than ONCE per disk, for each character? And no farming, you RUSH to the next boss ASAP
depends on how cheeky you get
once you get passed... probably fire bird? it should be smooth sailing if you still have enough items in vanilla
I could see that, main thing is being SUPER stingy on your actual items, repeats and resting at ins or rock fire flies would be mandatory
actually, you would probably want to prioritize guard healing, because with a run like this, you would likely need to funnel exp away from certain units
atleast until you hit a certain point
Wait what do you mean by funneling the xp?
in vanilla, people who die in combat dont get a share of the exp, which means that the surviving active party get more exp, and since the people not in the active party get half of what the surviving active party gets...
I'd say after you get Meru, you could afford to have a regular full party going without needing to consider too much
Ahhh, ehhhhh i tried to keep everyone alive, partially cause shana got absolutely bent over in disk 1 she was always several levels under dart
But considering trying rose this time round... that shouldn't be an issue?
Meru definitely CARRIED my first playthrough back in the early 2000s, but knowing more about minmaxing that HP value freakin hurts....
Meru's hp value is fine
🤨
she is so fast and strong in vanilla that nothing really posses a real threat besides like... faust
Ehhh to a degree, she doesn't get speed boots til disk 3, and that's only one chick on your team to get them
she's the best candidate for the speed gear, BECAUSE she is the fastest, speed is weird like that
Kongol can have his word when the back half of the game stops being mostly magically a threat
🤣
Fair! Lmao
I will say the most fun team comp i had was dart with shana and kongal, the complete polar opposites made things always interesting cause ONE member was always getting boned
Meru's level 1 hp is hilarious, and I cant wait to use her from the start of the game on hell mode like that again
Gotta keep me updated on that one!
eventually it will devolve into what this one has become... assuming Zy doesnt buff things too much >>;;
Oh lord do I HOPE he does a balance pass after it goes live 😉
I wouldnt mind balance changes, I just dont want them to be TOO extreme, I've already had to pull out a lot of planning for things
... the girl survived with just enough hp that I have to get another turn of dragoon to kill her >.>
That is the fun part of a overhaul of this nature, it WILL require testing, and balance passes to better refine things for a better overall experience BUTTTT the bright side is since there is a hell mode AND a hard mode, he can save the more extreme side for us masochist 😉
ok, NOW it's Zenebatos time
gl
... after these short messages
boss time
the strict gear requirements for this fight actually do make it decently difficult
well then, did not know I could get counter attacked for MISSING, thats the first time its happened to me
related, did not realize I could miss against her
..... wow, go from hitting every attack, to missing twice in a row, I might actually lose from that... xD
Did not know that was a thing
most enemies that counter I dont think HAVE evasion xD
lloyd with 99% evasion
YESSSSS
that... was a difficult fight
Made more difficult by me being a dumbass and forgetting to give her the dancer shoes >.>
still would have been difficult even with those
i have a request
can someone drop this in their base dramod folder and test to make sure there is no issues
What precisely is to be tested
and then drop this in the mods folder
Needing to know so i can use the current playthrouygh lol
I fuck it FULL SEND 1sec doing it now
items, monster drops, shops, inventory, sorting
Ight both files installed and override the original
whatcha need me to test? can stream if needed
Uhhhh this broke right out the gate, that def don't look right
oh
yeah one second
Wait testing one thing
Didn't see note to drop in mod folder on second one, launching again
requesting someone to test this new build of dramod
items, monster drops, shops, inventory, sorting
Trying now
In VC streaming my screen if you wanna check anything
What is the crash recover save?
y'all need more save slots. when the game crashes it creates a save that may or may not let you continue playing
Interesting, good to know
Remember mentioned always overrode mine lol
Soooo game loaded correctly displaying wise, but the second i attempted to move CRASH
the crash save or your normal save
No idea, this was in the middle of loading my normal save, want me to load that crash recov save?
no load the normal save uh
Ight 1sec will try again
you don't need to use a mic but in vc streaming main monitor
Got two crash recoveries now
Pressing Y seems to cause the crash
Let me try a fight just to make sure Y is the cause
requesting someone to test this new build of dramod
items, monster drops, shops, inventory, sorting
did you try this zip because your menu looks wrong
Yup i dragged and dropped it in
where is the bottom text?
Testing to see if NOT pressing Y or menu, but goinginto a fight causes a crash 1sec
I am now in the dead city
i can't talk my dad is sleeping
uh
one moment.
im updating to latest severed chains give me a moment
Did you cut off the bottom of the screen in your screenshot?
Only took screenshot of the stuff inside the window, 1sec if you mean the game files
There, only thing censored is top which has my IRL name, and left side which has file lists
Drop in mod folder or main folder?
I am a fool, fighting water dragon with water dragoon, when my only way to attack is water magic
well, water dragon spirit
show the terminal
close both reopen
sure
don't delete your main save
send me your save file
what the heck did you do xd your save works fine for me. i will just give you my entire folder.
No idea dude LOL, want me to drag and drop my whole folder?
no no it's fine
you have the icons at the bottom of SC menu now so that is a good sign
did you just say shattered chains 
scroll up on the terminal
sitem:1897 one moment
it's failing on... addition loading?
can you screenshot your mods/ folder?
also i am going to make you do a reunpack. go to the files/ folder and delete file VERSION
it's just files folder
wherever you extracted ramod test to
yes
let it run
uh close both of them and redelete the file version
menu
yeah that is a base sc problem to fix with the dragoon level 6 elemental infusion attacks. the code doesn't detect going into auto physical
uh continue attacking again i thought i heard it fine
no i think everything is working now
just need you to play normally and pay attention to items, buying/selling, discarding, sorting, repeat items returning after battle, getting them from mobs...
i am wondering if the unpack finished
because you had two SCs open
you might need to redo this step again
just the step to delete the version file
i have to go now so have fun 🙂
make sure all the terminal things are closed
no
open the terminal
close it
don't relaunch it
just delete the "version" only this time
yes
open the terminal
I am.. so confused.
Delete the entire "files" folder (will take 10 years) and relaunch the game after
yeah close SC and delete the entire files folder
You seem like you're having fun
it will take some time. i will be on my phone if you need me.
streaming pc trouble shooting lol
Yes
hmm leave it open maybe it is doing something
do you have a gen 5 nvme ssd by chance because that file delete was very fast
hmm that's fine
yes
uh
i think it's dramod
shut down everything
- delete mods/dragoon-modifier-2.0-SNAPSHOT.jar
- delete files/version
- relaunch
- once the unpack is finished and you get to the main screen close game
- reextract the zip i gave you
- relaunch
no not yet
im running the same thing as you
open task manager
ok it's finished unpacking
mine says that too but it seems to have created all of the files.
close the game now and extract the zip
yes
yes
i think you'll still have audio issues. i need to look at why the unpacker is freezing at a certain point
my poor SSD.
i have no clue what you need to test 🫠
the items just need to work
continue playing with this build for now you might crash though 😛
i have to go now
alright thank you!
bye now 🙂
regular faust
😯
it um... it might be time for ring of reversal Kongol
Zy.... why do you hate me specifically (I jest, but I am looking at that 35000 price tag and crying a little)
and another 40k for the axe...
Zera, it takes HOURS to grind that much QwQ
Oh bud, trust me, I KNOWWWW that's why i'm laughing LOL, and part of why i made my self implied rule of only ONE item bought
well excuse me mister "I can have a full party" some of us must suffer for our art!
TO BE FAIR! Not using level sync 😉 But in reality not knocking your run, i wanna try it myself lol
level sync doesnt do as much as ya think honestly
basically has just let me turn off random battles for the most part
Curious
Ring of the reversal is in the nerf list mind you
If i wasnt lazy yall would have ultimate melbu by now
I am on work ""vacation"" now where i only have to do work for maybe 3 hours next week let's see
Zy hates me specifically confirmed
For the record, I am relatively confident I wont be able to beat faust solo
Faust in the Flanvel tower is meant to be fought lvl 60 no?
Probably, which I am most of the way there
I dont see the remaining levels giving me a significant enough boost to make a difference, but I am going to try… though I am going to make a separate save for it
Wanna finish the run I have with grinding having minimal impact on my levels
Ok, good to know, Solo is currently impossible
for two main reasons
well, three really
Hellena prison first visit, Hoax.... and Michael
I'm gonna be here a while as Dart vs Zieg
Posting this here so I dont forget my minimum hp to survive Zieg 9175 hp
oh god I am finally through the second shield
finally in the red hp
Zieg down!
time to round this out with a melbu kill... hopefully
...... oh
I forgot about that
I was gonna say, atleast he takes like, 17 million a hit
Hmmmm
Melbu.... might not be possible
Damn, Melbu hit Miranda for 10k
thought that might have been because dragoon form
ok, I feel confident in saying that you cant solo Melbu
the idea for melbu is your healing spells will heal a lot less, you have more max hp, guard heals less and you can swap out for your entire roster of 8 characters and once they are dead they are dead for the entire battle.
I have a back pocket strat that MIGHT work
but of course these are just old melbu numbers even before ultimate boss equipment so
