Dragoon Modifier

[elfin drum]

i havent gotten a game over....yet

[tired orbit]

@iron bone was there the one ring in hell mode

[iron bone]

Yes

It should be in the black castle shop

[ripe tinsel]

Found the dragoon modifier
Is there a info on what certain settings do. For example
Elemental bomb?/enrage? and ultimate boss?

[next mortar]

There is small questionmark next to these settings, if you hover over it, it should display a tooltip explaining what it does

Elemental bomb just changes the element of an enemy to match the one of the Item you chucked at him had (only works for items that say "powerful"). Enrage just increases enemy damage output when they drop below certain HP thresholds (as if hellmode alone wasn't hard enough). Ultimate Boss one Idk either, Im assuming thats for some of the extra content DraMod adds.

[full bolt]

From the readme :

[ripe tinsel]

Guess I should have read it lol I never payed attention always assumed it was just a how to install

[feral bramble]

Hey! Joined a few days ago, been playing the hell mode RB3 beta and I am loving the more challenging gameplay! To make it quick, I cant find the changes to all the additions. Really just damage and SP amounts, compared to original LoD. Is there any info anywhere on this?

[iron bone]

all the info in the excel sheet i made is outdated

[feral bramble]

i figured, lol. its all good. im in feltz by now anyway. it's just that it seems like additions that give more SP seem to be better than not. just due to the unique character abilities requiring dragoon usage so i was mostly just trying to see which ones have the best SP gain. TY!

[jaunty bobcat]

any idea on when the hard mode for RB3 will be released?

[iron bone]

Time is an illusion.

[jaunty bobcat]

Wait were you supposed to use legend casques in hard mode?

[iron bone]

not until moon

[jaunty bobcat]

So the kanzas is supposed to one shot you?

[iron bone]

many things in dramod hell mod one shot

[jaunty bobcat]

Nah this was hard. I started disc 4 then went back to vellweb lol. beat them eventually but it took days

[iron bone]

Oh those dragoons are for level 50

[jaunty bobcat]

"Eh he's probably bullshitting. I'm not going to the moon for this."

They're beatable, you're just going to get one shot constantly and need miranda instead of meru lol.

[next mortar]

Dude he was 62 health

And I had to use all my magic and revival items

Tried to not use dragoon, but its just not it

[tired orbit]

s...s.s..s...skill..---s.kill issue?!!! /s

[next mortar]

I have no idea how did Ink beat this without Dragoon

Went into it with this

I was 29/32 items, maybe more potions was the answer

Also Ig shouldve grinded the extra level

[iron bone]

Press R3 to level sync your team

[next mortar]

I felt like I'd be cheating by doing that, so I opted out not to. Feels like the extra Dart level will help a bit too. Will prob just use it as a mechanic to even out the exp in case you win boss with dead party members.

That being said, I'm curious about one thing - I keep seeing different numbers everytime I do an addition. Is there just some RNG range where they can hit? The unmodded game had consistent numbers and personally I find it frustrating if a mob runs away with 1 HP remaining cuz rng said screw you

Also some settings in DraMod seems to automatically turn themselves on - or rather at least Enrage. It seems to happen whenever the game is loaded. Not sure whether this is intentional for testing or if it's an oversight, so just reporting that.

[tired orbit]

enrage increases enemy def which reduces your damage as battle goes on

[next mortar]

I forgot about the def increase

I thought its just damage

ugh

[untold zealot]

Was +1 level, max current additions, 19/32 items, x2 poison guards, knight shield.

[next mortar]

Yeah I grinded a bit and got hin on second attempt

+1 level and 2 levels on addition do make crazy difference

Lavitz went from like doing 10 dmg to 30

[untold zealot]

yea big diff with lvls early

[urban haven]

Not sure if its intended. Ultimate boss commander soldiers are susceptible to instant kill status. Didn't even think about it. Headed over there after lloyd and haschel naturally has brass knuckle equipped.

And the commander himself can be poisoned, also an accident on my part. juicy 6400 ticks of damage.

[iron bone]

i allow certain bosses to now have status effects

those mobs already didn't have the status resistance

fruegel 2 i implemented one turn/hit status effects

[urban haven]

are you supposed to get rewards from the EXP screen? commander died to poison so maybe i didnt get kill credit?

my r3 also says 0 ultimate bosses defeated

[iron bone]

you should get the kill credit just by going to battle results screen

[urban haven]

yeah i've done it three times, once without poison kill and im not getting anything for the fight or completion on the r3 menu

[iron bone]

🧐

are you clicking "next ultimate boss"

if you got no rewards it detected you completing the boss

[urban haven]

im clicking "ultimate boss"

but i tried with "next ultimate boss" and both options load me into ultimate commander

to clarify, i didnt complete the fight after using "next ultimate boss"

is that neccessary to get the rewards?

[iron bone]

if you go in normal menu and change your ultimate boss to 2 and click start ultimate boss from dramenu

does it change?

[urban haven]

after "beating" the first one?

[iron bone]

uh it shouldn't work like that

[urban haven]

okay so on the fourth try it worked

the only thing i can think of is that none of the enemies died of a status.

[iron bone]

i'll have to check the battle ended event trigger

it should trigger even with monsters alive when you do crtl+w

[jaunty bobcat]

would you mind if I DMed you?

[iron bone]

uh sure

[hidden wraith]

Question

Reading through the ReadMe files I noticed a bunch of bosses says not in beta but has some of their names, hp, rewards listed

Are these extra boss fights the only thing not included from the 3.0 beta? Example is the current version of the beta completed up to end of the story and just missing final tweaks of additional side bosses?

[iron bone]

the extra ultimate bosses will be available in the phase 2 of the beta

so far there is only 8 out of the (so far) planned 42

these bosses have script changes so it takes longer for me to do.

[iron bone]

is anyone ready for faust spamming psyche bomb 🙂

[fallen kettle]

Hello everyone, first boss to actually give me issues is Lenus 1 in Hell mode.
. 90% of the time she’s casting spells that nearly wipe my team and occasionally attacks 3-4 times in a row. Ive tried Dart Shana and Kongol as well as Dart Shana and Albert (a little more access this time). Is there some trick I’m missing to through this endless stream of AOE spells?

[full bolt]

Are you using dragoons?

She gets free turns if you transform

[fallen kettle]

Yes, most of my team is level 4 dragoon.

!!! Oh, I didn’t realize that

[full bolt]

You should transform only if you need the power to finish her

[fallen kettle]

That will make this much more manageable

[full bolt]

Idk if transforming and exiting the dragoon form on the same turn works or not tho

[next mortar]

Pretty sure she enrages the moment you transform

So if you transform even once, she'll be like that

I think the strat is to take her down to like yellow without Dragoon

Until then, she will pretty much only spam physical attacks which dont do much dmg

After yellow she will start using magic, so its good idea to rush finish her then

I think most optimal will be Dart to maximize the fire dmg boost, but I havent gotten there yet, so Im not sure how will the actual fight play out.

[fallen kettle]

I think this is exactly the info I needed, thank you.

There isn’t an indicator for enrage outside of the icon indicator based on health so I couldn’t figure that out.

[full bolt]

Also, if you use Dart special, you should equip his fire sword to maximize the dmg

I mean you should against her anyway

[next mortar]

Yeah and stack up on some burn outs if you can, I dont really remember the places where u can buy it tho

Honestly Lenus 1 is a filter, Im not looking forward to that fight myself

[full bolt]

She's alright, Lenus 2 is harder 👀

[next mortar]

In the base game, Lenus 2 was easier imo lol

[full bolt]

Yes sure but not in hell mode

[fallen kettle]

I don’t think the fight will be bad now that I’m not enraging her on the first turn 😂

[next mortar]

Back when I was able to play Hard Mode on emulator, it felt like that too, we'll see if I get there on Hell beta

[iron bone]

i should probably release a partial update with the disc 3/4 rebalances at least

i will do that later tonight

i only fixed... 2? bugs so far since good chunk i can't replicate.

but also it would be nice for y'all to use the more updated base SC version.

[fallen kettle]

Hmm, I’ve been duped. Maybe there’s a turn timer? She is not enraged by her health, I have not transformed, and she is now constantly casting spells.

But haven’t lost yet!

[hidden wraith]

If you release that, how do we update without losing current save progress?

[iron bone]

you just drag and drop

[hidden wraith]

Could you elaborate just a smidge please, sorry new to running the game like this

Definitely enjoying the challenge though, first roadblock was the ninja at hoax before kongal lmao, stopped me a good two days to figure out how to get past being two shotted

[fallen kettle]

Oh well, this boss is seemingly impossible 😂 Putting this away for few days.

[hidden wraith]

You got me excited lol

[fallen kettle]

Lmao, as soon as I become a dragoon to burst her when she turns yellow she spams magic and my whole team gets wiped

Even with speed boost item Dart gets one turn

[hidden wraith]

Interesting

My planned team was haschel, Shana, and dart

[fallen kettle]

I was hoping Shana could survive to revive everyone, but the triple magic turns in a row really mess things up 😭

[hidden wraith]

Is there an item in the game like the elude cloak early on but for magic? Gives 20% dodge chance to physically, if you had a magic version shana innately has 5% so she could get up to 25% and rng roll it for survives?

[fallen kettle]

Yes, I have those and may try that next, just feels sort of crappy relying on RNG that much

I forgot the exact name, but I’ve got them

[feral bramble]

im playing through story on 3.0 beta, anyone know why miranda is missing from my party? she isn't in my replace screen and i think has been gone since the divine dragon attacks the crystal palace and she goes to the queen, but never rejoined. she just never came back, i've beaten lloyd now and shes still gone?

shes also still in the dialouge scenes but just not the actual party

[full bolt]

In the dramod menu you should have a "?" button

I think this is the one that put her back on the team

[feral bramble]

in the R3 menu?

[full bolt]

Yes

[feral bramble]

i saw it at one point before the divine dragon fight but its not there anymore?

the swap shana option works so i guess i can just leave her in

[full bolt]

IDK sorry 😅

[feral bramble]

its all good, i searched the server for any info and didn't see anything so i guess i just wanted to make sure the issue was known. i wonder if it can happen in the base game as well?

[iron bone]

who

[chilly smelt]

And so is death

[fallen kettle]

Alright I got frisky and tried again. I put those 20% magic evade items on everyone and survived—barely.

However something curious was happening. Sometimes my healing items would miss and healing breezes would only heal like 100. Are breezes 50% or current HP instead of max? And does magic evade make healing items miss?

[hidden wraith]

Breeze is half hp but entire team

As for magic evasion affecting them im not sure that would require testing

But good to hear the rng risk payed off lol

[full bolt]

Damn you have the same glitch I had

Is it only on Shana?

[full bolt]

If you want to see if this is the same issue I had, mine looked like this https://youtu.be/f6AMWfJaqXE?si=2xdHJK5JxbHwYYNV&t=306

[iron bone]

💀 i need to see if this fix will work and if it doesn't i need more people to test so that we can find a method of duplication...

i've used evasion items fine in my playthrough the cause is unknown

after i wake up let's see how far i get or what i feel like doing and i will release something tomorrow.

[next mortar]

Healing item miss?

Would it just display Miss and not heal you?

[iron bone]

it's a bug and i have no clue how it happens

i just set evasion to 100/200 and it didn't happen so

[fallen kettle]

This battle is the first time it's ever happened to me and I've been using healing items liberally

[feral bramble]

update she is back after everyone leaves the party and then rejoins in ulara

[cedar path]

Just want to point out a quirk in dramod that’s a little vexing. Shana gets the awesome elemental arrow feature, love using it. But you have to grind to get them, and it really seems you intended very minimal grinding in the mod. Just a little inconvenient 😅

[nova mulch]

Lavitz solo has been fun so far, minus the prep for Virage 1 >.>;;

[iron bone]

I believe others have also said drop rate is too low I will raise it for the minor patch I am making right now.

[next mortar]

+1 for that

Especially the fire arrows since theres only one area in which you can farm it

And those Salamanders are beyond annoying on hell mode

[iron bone]

that... is a good point

volcano villude fire arrow increased from 12%->36% drop rate
the rest are 12%->24%.

[iron bone]

wow it's been a month
i may have fixed the healing thing but i am leaving a bunch of debug statements for it
i may have fixed some dragoon spells counting as elemental bomb by putting the item magic attack type check (still hasn't happened to me)
i fixed the halo of balance doubling up on 30% max hp/mp
i fixed the dragoon physical attack bug
i fixed rose triggering siphon gain when using items
i fixed an issue with meru's ice shield
i fixed the "repeatitem" event so that it just reads from the table every time so weak shield is no longer repeatable

Dart's additions were rebalanced.
Lavitz & Albert's additions were rebalanced.
Rose's addition were rebalanced.
Meru addition were rebalanced.
Everyone has lowered addition unlock levels.
Meru's boost ability is removed since she has ice shield now.
All dragoon's elemental infusion physical attack spells have been moved to level 6 except Lavitz/Albert.

Shana's elemental arrows deal more damage without using her Ultimate weapon.
DraMod SC version updated to sep 20 build (i will wait for java 25 testing)

(WIP) Finalizing disc 3/4 boss adjustments
Lavitz/Albert gets a new dragoon spell
fixed protection shield not showing up on the correct character
Kongol casts protection shield when using some Dragoon spells

and i might skip ahead of my plans and add something else since i already got the necessary feedback for hell mode

[nova mulch]

oh no, my boi lavitz about to get nerfed, better finish this run before patching! lol

[iron bone]

everyone got nerfed. the dragoon physical attack had an additional multiplier.

[nova mulch]

... I meant the additions rebalance

also, much as I love the bandit ring, Physical ring Lavitz has carried him through Virage and Firebird, I forsee a trend in the future

[iron bone]

it's just to make him slightly worse than kongol as intended

[nova mulch]

Thats fair

Going to be sad when the lavitz speed item nerf happens... if it hasnt already and just isnt displaying

[iron bone]

was there since first beta release

[nova mulch]

i'm not a smart man

[iron bone]

he will match kongol in magic damage in the next update and be worse for physical while both of them provide different defensive utilities. the main problem is kongol gets stone axe so late while lavitz/albert gets twister glaive so early.

[hidden wraith]

Where do I get the patch update? Or is it not live yet?

You mentioned above disc 3/4 being ironed out, so should I pause after playing disc 2?

[iron bone]

if you can wait a day or two for the update to come out

[hidden wraith]

Sounds good thank you!

[untold zealot]

Lavitz final addition big carry f nerf

[nova mulch]

final addition Lavitz made Virage 1 solo bearable xD

[hidden wraith]

When you say virage 1, mean disk 1 volcano with fire bird location?

[nova mulch]

Yes

[nova mulch]

107 attacks later, Haschel has finished soloing Doel xD

unrelated, Haschel has now attacked 107 times

[nova mulch]

oh

oh no

I'm getting infinite comboed to death

[nova mulch]

I find it fun how the physical ring and therapy ring have carried me so far

using only one person

[hidden wraith]

Therapy ring is clutch as hell

least until you get soul eater lol...

[nova mulch]

I aint about to use a weapon that drains hp

[hidden wraith]

But big bonk stick

[nova mulch]

planning out how to beat the virage in valley of corrupted gravity rn

for now, Dart will be my test dummy

He's in danger

O.O

that was one attack plus therapy ring healing

riiiiiiiiiiiiight

the left hand can insta kill

well then

[hidden wraith]

Oof

What lv are you

[nova mulch]

24

[hidden wraith]

Damn

[nova mulch]

perks of using only one character up until now

pretty sure we arent making it through this time Lavitz, but I want to shrek that hand

you might say this fight is an... arms race

I am going to be a little sad if my solution to this wall has to be the dragon helm, but at the same time... dragon helm

[iron bone]

i think you'll be excited when you get to fueno

[hidden wraith]

Wait did you solo character all the way to where you are so far?

[nova mulch]

I have swapped out who has fought, but yes

[hidden wraith]

Daaaang dude nice! The mod is hard enough with 3 characters i can't imagine doing that yet lmao

[nova mulch]

Lavitz solo's up to the first virage okay, but the fight's hard as fuck, so I got maxed out flower storm for it, and it STILL wasnt a walk in the park

then it was smooth sailing until doel

needed Haschel for that one

[hidden wraith]

Nice, Jiango is the one i'm stressing over cause plan to run shana and well... she is paper to physical lol

[nova mulch]

She is decently fast though

[hidden wraith]

Oh definitely

[nova mulch]

Therapy ring will go a decent way

[hidden wraith]

Is it worth putting it on her? I've only ever used it on dart

[nova mulch]

its 10% healing per turn, so it will buy you a few extra turns here and there

[hidden wraith]

Hmmmm i'll have to give it

[nova mulch]

Hmmmmmmmmmmm, Angel scarf is A thought

[iron bone]

anyone who was complaining about guard going missing was using combat debugger

it sets your dlevel to 5 if you are at 6/7

[nova mulch]

Huh... I learned something new today

00 parts cant flee if he cant attack, meaning charm potions prevent him from running away.

if the whole party uses them

wait WHAT

Shana just hit 00 parts for 2 o.o

[iron bone]

Shana is a girl boss that's why.

[nova mulch]

I never use her, so I never expected to see an interaction like that

[iron bone]

it's her attack boost changing damage

[nova mulch]

Shana, I apologize

and then OO parts immediately pun..... so interesting interaction

shana died, OO parts ran away

game crashed

[iron bone]

crash log?

or did you already open the game again

[nova mulch]

already opening again, I think this is a fringe situation deal

where the entire party is dead, but the enemy ran

[iron bone]

well we patched replacing dart in three party configs

but we haven't patched any issues with less than three.

[nova mulch]

I'm solving the issue the "normal" way, putting an amulet on Shana and calling it a day

sad to see the 150% accuracy go, but I value not crashing

[iron bone]

damn finally lmao.

im finalizing disc 3/4 changes and then new update

[hidden wraith]

Any chance of more optional endgame bosses in the next update? I remember ya saying 8 were current 🤞

[iron bone]

Yep there is a few new additions.

[hidden wraith]

Woohoo! Also my first arrow for shana woot!

[nova mulch]

Hmm, even using Haschel with the dragon helm the virage just hits too hard...

yea, first enrage doing 1400 to Haschel at level 24 xD

time to test Meru xD

though this might hilariously become Shana vs the Virage

so, funny story

This is shaping up to be a shana solo fight

depending on how this goes... I am buying throwable magic items and gonna crush this

Shana, I regret not trusting in you sooner

[nova mulch]

she did it!

LOOOL! watching her jump up and deck it was great!

[hidden wraith]

Niiiiice dude

[nova mulch]

it was definitely a tedious fight

and probably very possible without the dragon helm

since the head was doing 480ish with its laser unblocked

[nova mulch]

Hmmm

[nova mulch]

just a few items

[iron bone]

i knew 6 items worked in the original but technically you can get 7 here

[hidden wraith]

Nice

[nova mulch]

I missed an item, tragedy

[hidden wraith]

What does weak shield do?

[nova mulch]

Think that was a shield on you at the start of the fight like enemies have

bosses I mean

[iron bone]

50% max hp shield for the selected character

[hidden wraith]

Okay I REEEEAALLLYYYY Like the free cast spells in the higher dragoon levels, makes it so i don't need to carry as many items on attack spells

[hearty grotto]

hello its me again and im still getting the same crash as before even after getting dart alone and attacking an enemy then running away this is the screenshot from after that crash

[iron bone]

give me like an hour i am doing something jank for it

[sweet wyvern]

Building geometry offthread isn't already jank? 😆

[iron bone]

i will release the new version without the new bosses

[sweet wyvern]

Why not use a render event

[iron bone]

shh i am making a new method

or... that...

wait both.

[sweet wyvern]

You shouldn't render in a random thread, it won't be synchronized with the render thread

You never know what frame you'll render on

[iron bone]

im just adding a new overload method to add a Y offset.

[hearty grotto]

hey im sorry for bothing so often but i think i mighta learned what the issue could be

it seems to only happen when i have meru equipped with the spirit bottle accessory and she is the first one to act on turn order

[iron bone]

that... makes sense because the render number method didn't initalize a real number.

i will test my new code with that equipped thank you

[hearty grotto]

no problem was gonna test it some more myself

[hidden wraith]

Just curious, what is spirit bottle?

[hearty grotto]

spirit bottle is an accessory you can buy in fletz that gives 80 sp to the person equipped with it on their first turn

[hidden wraith]

Thank you! Definitely sounds interesting

Im still at shrine of Shirley in disk one at 25 hours in 😅 🤣

Lavitz 2nd before last addition giving me a royal pain in the rear of a time to level, trying not to move onto a new area until each character has their highest current addition

[hearty grotto]

@iron bone yo as an update i got it to work on haschel so it might work on anyone going first with it on. think im done testing with it though i just wanted to get meru to dlvl 2 and shes almost there anyways

[iron bone]

good enough for me and on same thread.

[untold zealot]

gear duping by adding lavitz back?

?

[iron bone]

DraMod 2.0 Hell Mode Beta v1.3
Please refer to this pinned post as well for additional info: #1197976055923888218 message

Please report any issue to me in this channel (so I can keep track).
The github works too I guess.

Changes
+Bug now feature, physical damage boost for the character who specials will be 1.5x. On Kongol and Lavitz this is set to 1.2x.
+Bug now feature, Meru gains ice shield while healing.
+All characters now have different addition unlock levels
+Dart's Volcano and Moon Strike have changed
+Lavitz's/Albert's Flower Storm has changed
+Rose's Demon Dance has changed
+Meru's Perky Step has changed
+All elemental infusion attacks have been moved to Dragoon level 6 except Lavitz/Albert
+Lavitz/Albert have a new Dragoon Spell at level 6, Super Gaspless
+The following bosses have changed
Grand Jewel
Divine Dragon
Divine Dragon Cannon
Lloyd
Vector
Selebus
Kubila
Zackwell
+Updated to Severed Chains dev build September 29

Bug Fixes?
+Healing items healing less than the desired amount?

Bug Fixes
+Dragoon Spells counting towards Elemental Bomb
+Halo of Balance
+Rose triggering Siphon outside of items
+Extra damage numbers will no longer crash the game
+Some problems with Meru's Ice Shield
+All items now have the correct repeat item property
+Unique battle mechanic numbers will now display above normal damage/healing numbers

Balance Watchlist
--Additions
+Madness Hero (dmg+)
+Moon Strike (dmg+)
+Rod Typhoon (sp+)
+Gust of Wind Dance (dmg++, sp-)
+Hard Blade (dmg++, sp-)
+Summon 4 Gods (dmg+, sp-)
+5 Ring Shattering (dmg--, sp++)
+Hex Hammer (dmg++)
+Cat's Cradle (dmg+)
+Inferno (sp+)
--Bosses
+Virage 2
+Lloyd
+Last Kraken
+Polter Armor
+Imago (make Imago harder by giving Law City Zenebatos item shop as an option in DraMenu)
--Enemies
+Literally just Vellweb mobs lmao
+Flanvel Tower mobs
--Equips
+Fake Solitary Ring
--Shops
+Kanzas

Please refer to this pinned post as well for additional info on how to play before using DraMod: #1197976055923888218 message
Existing Install: Copy and paste into your existing folder and replace all files.
New Install: Keep this as a separate SC folder for DraMod. Extract all and follow the normal SC install guide (put your NA ISOs in the ISO folder and use the launch script.)

Roadmap Soon™
Minor Beta Versions 1.3.x
Will be updated frequently in Discord only containing new Ultimate Bosses of Zone 3.

Beta 1.4
Will contain all Ultimate Bosses up to Zone 3
Buffs to Black Castle weapons containing "SP+MP" Hybrid Dragoon Spells (three levels, each one time use per battle)
More new equips
The following difficulties will be added to the beta: Retail US, Retail JP, Japan Demo, Hard Mode, Normal + Hard Mode Bosses, Hard + Hell Mode bosses (maybe US Demo also)

Minor Beta Versions 1.4.x
Will be updated frequently in Discord only containing new Ultimate Bosses of Zone 4.
Will have a new feature available by exploring the World Map (exclusive to Hard and Hell modes).
Will have a new feature by returning to Lohan Hero Competition (exclusive to Hard and Hell modes).
Any additional adjustment to Hard Mode.

1.5.0
Finalizing any changes to Hell Mode.
Finalizing any changes to Hard Mode.
Completion of new Lohan and World Map feature.
🤷‍♂️

Dragoon Modifier 2.0 Release for Severed Chains RB3

[iron bone]

always been a thing since original hell mode use it

[untold zealot]

saves from previous betas compatible with this update?

[iron bone]

yep

[iron bone]

Download is in pinned message someone test please.

[hidden wraith]

Will download and try it after work

Just to confirm I basically just copy paste everything in save file, and drop the iso files plus save into the new version and should be able to continue campaign?

[iron bone]

Just copy and paste into your existing folder and replace all.

[hidden wraith]

Alright that sounds simple enough, thank you!

[untold zealot]

worked past kongol

eary mode disc 1 nerf'd 😱

[iron bone]

i am thinking of following japan demo where the master addition is the second best dmg/sp.

[untold zealot]

It would be an interesting thought to make the additions something to be used not because of damage but because of sp / statuses / equipment effects on per addy hit / restore mp...etc.

Japan Demo additions make a lot of sense though for Hellmode.

[hidden wraith]

I guess it really is hell mode considering only 666 files need replacing LOL

Font seems different other than some addition changes

The "press A at X time" indicator is pretty cool, gonna tinker with the timing on it with some of the more janky additions

Guarding heals full 10% of max hp now and no longer the 8% of max hp, was this intentional? Did not see it mentioned on the patch notes

Ability to exit dragoon form on one use also don't see on the transform menu, used to have a dragoon icon to deform after 1 attack

I remember you mentioning dragoon additions were over calculated and doing more damage then intended? Hit about the same for around 300 just now on the gargoyal so not seeing a difference atm

[iron bone]

are you sure dramod hasn't crashed for some reason

actually that will be a base sc problem hmm odd.

[hidden wraith]

I can save and reboot it after this fight, how do i tell if it did crash?

[iron bone]

if someone went wrong look for 'failed to deliver event' in the console

[hidden wraith]

Do you need me to look for something specific on this? It's at the bottom of the page currently

[iron bone]

🧐

figure it out now
have monoxide figure it out when he reviews the pr (he did ask for these options in base sc)
HMM

[hidden wraith]

Still trying to get out of the shrine, failing to escape so gotta brute force kill everything lmao

[iron bone]

uh do we have the escape chances on our wiki last i check they were brutal

[hidden wraith]

it's failed 100% unless i had shana with the boots that raise it by 20%

[iron bone]

but also there is an item that increases escape rate 🙂

oh

rip

[hidden wraith]

Yuuup, also this guy freaking sucks to fight LOL, game overed me more than actual bosses

[urban haven]

Would be interesting to have decisions to make, even after mastering the final addition. Considering the ability to change additions mid fight, this would be a welcomed addition (ha) to try

[hidden wraith]

Alright excuse the spam this is the entire log

After that just repeats the bottom part like 100 times while opening scene played during screenshotting

HOPING this helps?

[hidden wraith]

Uhhh side note, is red eyed dragon supposed to unlock at lv 5 in the mod? i remember hearing it goes to 7 so wanted to make sure it was working correctly...

[feral bramble]

Would anyone know of a reason for sabre not dropping from ultimate boss #1? I didnt get anything else either. Just nothing. I did just switch to the v1.3 beta

[hidden wraith]

So some other testing, red eyed dragon costing 80MP deals 200 dmg as first opening move at 1020% scaling, Final burst costing 30MP dealt 132 in same scenario, addition at yellow health not even on perfect deals 165 dmg, can you elaborate regarding the scaling against crystal golem having an addition at half hp on the opponent deal nearly as much as the opening fight dealing 200 with an 80 MP spell?

Just trying to get an idea of the scaling when the menu says over 1,000% scaling

Edit: Wiki shows it does have higher magic defense but i wouldn't expect 40 points to make THAT much of a difference for 80MP vs an addition not even being perfect WITH teh enrage system affecting it

[iron bone]

what does your dramenu say? try next ultimate boss instead. there also is a bug with poison not counting towards clearing the boss

[iron bone]

yes you get other spells and abilities at level 6/7

im going to work on fixing the ultimate boss stuff now.

[feral bramble]

yeah i did ultimate boss instead of next ultimate boss which is what im assuming the issue was. Also when doung that boss i used: power up, power down, and speed up. and now they are gone from my inventory. I can restore the save so its not an issue though.

[iron bone]

did you set your inventory limit higher than it should have been?

[feral bramble]

nope was set at 32. and i had used some healing items too so i was below 20 items in my inventory after killing it.

[iron bone]

did you trigger the too many items screen? hmm let me try

[feral bramble]

? not sure nothing extra seemed to pop up or anything

bringing my 1.2 save file to 1.3 wouldnt of messed anything up im assuming, right?

[iron bone]

uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

well that's an immediate hotfix. thank you for reporting

[iron bone]

no

[feral bramble]

ye no problem glad to have caught it quick

[hidden wraith]

Just to confirm on the above, is it the repeat items not coming back or the ultimate boss drops that are the immediate fix? Just so i can be cautious on what content is affected

[iron bone]

no the repeat items are broken

[hidden wraith]

kk i'll avoid using those for now, tyty

[iron bone]

place this in your mods folder to fix repeat items

[hidden wraith]

kk ty, that was a fast fix!

[iron bone]

ok i will work on the next 3 ultimate bosses and fix that no reward bug.

the github has been updated so you can update from there too

[hidden wraith]

JUST found the readme showing the new items lmao, never checked the mod folder until dropping the file above in there and it prompted an override i was like waitwut?

[hidden wraith]

Did drake always drop bandits ring? Edit, have a CHANCE i mean

[iron bone]

yes, most bosses do drop things.

[vast adder]

Hi everyone i am playing Lod on retroarch using dragoon modifier but my dragoon lv keeps returning to lv 1 for some reason any idea why

[iron bone]

before you get too far i'd recommend using the severed chains build for hell mode https://github.com/Legend-of-Dragoon-Modding/sc-dragoon-modifier/releases/tag/v2.0-HellMode-Beta-1

in old hell mode dragons will delevel as an anti grind measure.

[vast adder]

Unfortunately i did try severed chains but having a problem with it think my pc is to old to handle it😑

Is there a way i can change that so it won't delevel my dragoon spirts

[iron bone]

graphics issues, what cpu/gpu?

[iron bone]

no that is part of the game

[vast adder]

Think is cpu related as when lavitz joins and you encounter a battle the fps drops to 10 but when fighting alone with just dart everything works perfectly

[iron bone]

ah well good luck, dragoons stop deleveling after the last kraken. each disc boss will also severely drop your level.

[vast adder]

does hard mode do the same

[iron bone]

no

[vast adder]

only hell mode

[iron bone]

only hell mode on emulator will delevel you.

[vast adder]

thank you so much for the help really appreciate it

[hidden wraith]

By chance do you have a catalog for prior versions of the mod? That anti grind and de leveling mechanic sounds fun to test around with. What was the reason it got scrapped? Just curious

[iron bone]

https://legendofdragoonhardmode.wordpress.com/change-log/
i have not touched this website in years though

[hidden wraith]

Thank you! I have the rest of the week off after work today so gonna peek around it

[iron bone]

i removed it sincce the majority of people found it annoying and if they got stuck they couldn't out grind the boss

i am still considering dragoon level caps based on the disc you are on

[hidden wraith]

Ahh

Did it cover addition levels? Example if I had crush dance unlocked on dart, got de leveled, then lost it, and re leveled to relearn it, did it keep current progress?

Noticed this when lavitz lost his 2nd to last addition I was working on with the most recent update it went POOF

[hidden wraith]

I honestly haven't really used the dragoon spells much, additions just deal so much more generally speaking at least in my case

[iron bone]

the unlock levels for all additions have changed

gust of wind dance is now level 16

[hidden wraith]

Ahh that ain't too bad only a couple off

[iron bone]

if anything i will lock dragoons to level 2/4/6 within disc 1/2/3 only in battle without deleveling your dragoons.

[hidden wraith]

As in, if we GOT the xp to reach let's say 3, we are still locked to 2 until disc 2, then instantly jump to 3? Or gotta reearn that xp?

[iron bone]

instant jump

[hidden wraith]

Sweeet

[iron bone]

also i can add in the "zychronix challenge" since i am the lowest level out of all of you who mentioned your levels for t he bosses

which would stop you from over leveling

[hidden wraith]

Is it possible to block the ability to save in the overworld, and manually add save points to Inns? Would drastically change boss planning and item management 😂

[iron bone]

uh yes but why

[hidden wraith]

Reminds me of one of the ollldddd school final fantasy games, basically one of the final areas of the game gives a massive spike in difficulty and no save points with over 2 hours of boss gauntlet fighting

So you die? Major setback

Similar idea here

[iron bone]

y'all can turn off save anywhere yourself 😛

[hidden wraith]

Welp I can tell arena wasn't adjusted 😂 😂 two shotting everyone up to Lloyd

[magic fox]

Hi does 1.3 disable the option to distranforming from dragoon form after plays the current turn ?

[hidden wraith]

Mentioned that one too earlier ^

[iron bone]

So it's you do one turn it shows up then not again?

[hidden wraith]

Doesn't show up period from start of fight once you transform, can go through any character any amount of turns and never once will appear

[magic fox]

Sorry doesnt read everything ^^

[hidden wraith]

You good lol

Want me to upload my save file Zychronix?

[iron bone]

sure

[hidden wraith]

1sec lemme kill this last trash mob, was farming up haschel additions before hellenia 2nd run

I think that's it?

[iron bone]

no one got this on their startup right?

[magic fox]

I didn't get that ^^

[iron bone]

you had 1.2 before yes? go to the mods folder and delete dragoon-modifier-2.0-SNAPSHOT-all.jar and try again

[magic fox]

Another question : I saw in the read me text that you can use the dra mod menu to add everyone at level 1 to the party when you take control of dart but when i start i only got the option to swap in/off all dragoon stones, so the question is : we cant begin a new run with everyone at level 1 ?

[magic fox]

For my part i did do that from the start that's why i had no problem ^^

[hidden wraith]

I don't get that error either, want me to delete the same mod?

[iron bone]

yes

[hidden wraith]

kk once i get out of this fight

Mod is deleted and destransform icon is still missing

Healing also is still restoring 10% vs what was supposed to be 8%

when you defend

[iron bone]

oh.....

i think i found it one second

[hidden wraith]

Oooo shana does 2 to 00Parts

[magic fox]

Another thing : i tried to use Light Arrow with Miranda but instead of targeting the ennemies you can only target the party and after the dragoon magic animation it turns the screen into a white screen ^^

[hidden wraith]

How are the elemental arrows? I'm trying to stock pile them so haven't ever actually used one yet

[magic fox]

My screen after the attack ^^

[hidden wraith]

Side note with Shana's dragoon form, randomly i get +50 SP while INNN dragoon form when using her 0 cost spell, it doesn't always return SP but has enough where i can get 1-3 extra turns even at Dragoon level 4 if i spam just that

Bug or intentional?

[magic fox]

Quite good, i didn't use them very much but i can do huge damage to ennemies who doesnt like magic attacks ^^ There is a very endgame bow who gives you infinite arrow ^^

[hidden wraith]

That has me highly intrigued 😄

Also a less subtle note i noticed, Rose was NOT able to use angel robes when in vanilla playthrough, yet on this mod she can, originally was Meru and Shana only from my testing without any mods and just running severed chains

[magic fox]

Fan Suggestion : instead of farming elemental arrow why do not let Shana/Miranda have unlimited arrows as a unique mecanics who can do use huge physical damage ( at shana/miranda scale so low but higher than base damage ) if you use on a elemental weakness ^^

[hidden wraith]

Only issue there is would have to have different scaling, if it dealt 2x with the current modifier beyond lv 10 can potentially get out of control cause as a base after lv 10 iirc she does 1.6x dmg, so when you account for a 2x modifier from elemental weakness... numbers can get funny

Her current scaling, so at lv 28, with 2x elemental effect, she'd deal over 4x damage

[magic fox]

Oh i see ^^ but Shana/Miranda's mecanic is the mecanic I almost didn't use that's why i though about that ^^

[magic fox]

Quite huge indead ^^

[hidden wraith]

All good, i know her basics are dogwater usually but her dragoon form also does i think it was 365% even at lv 1?

Excuse my gal, she got uhhh cheeks clapped on melee lmao

[iron bone]

extract this to your folder and replace all and detransform should work

[magic fox]

Thanks ^^ that was fast 😉

[hidden wraith]

Wait which folder specifically? or did you mean just extract that zip and replace entire current patches folder?

[iron bone]

replace entire current patches folder

[hidden wraith]

kk one sec ty

Yup detransform works! That was super fast dude nice

My main concern on that was for dragonblock staff healing with shana, and lloyed insta kills later lmfaoooo i was like awww crap ight we going oldschool then

[magic fox]

I check on the wiki her Base Dragoon physical attack was 200% up to 220% at level 5 ^^

[hidden wraith]

Curious, i'll have to tank a gander at it, wiki main thing i've checked were specific addition scaling and unlock levels, or the stardust/2% drop rate items

[magic fox]

Oldschool solution : equip the accesory who prevents insta kills ^^ Lloyd will just try to kill Miranda because he prioritise his insta kill 🤣🤣🤣

[hidden wraith]

Healing looks fixed as well Zychronix, just tested

[hidden wraith]

Brooooooo i didn't even think of that LMAO

[iron bone]

were you also getting the healing items doing less than usual?

[magic fox]

Me neither, I saw that on the wiki a few day earlier 🤣🤣 On normal game anyway i always add enough Healing Breaze to doesnt have to use dragoons ^^

[iron bone]

this is... less effective now.

the ultimate version won't have this issue.

[hidden wraith]

I gotta wait until i get injured enough to test that, i usually try to not use items unless a last resort of risking a game over

[hidden wraith]

I look forward to all the ultimate bosses, especially so on Lloyed 😉

[magic fox]

I trust you on that ^^ Your Ultimate bosses are very fun btw 🙂

[hidden wraith]

I hatechu, WHY IS HE IN OVERWORLD he's game overed me more than any boss LOL

^ Mean that playfully, not actually mad just like wtfffffffff seeing your arch nemesis LOL

So angels prayer did restore half hp, and a healing potion did send him back to full hp, so both were doing their 50% on haschel correctly @iron bone

I don't have the ability to get healing breezes yet from shop or the full restores to test sorry

I remember a comment earlier however about DODGE CHANCE for magic affecting heals, i have not experienced that yet

[magic fox]

Update about that : Endgame Bow who gives unlimited arrow do physical damage and doesnt cast a magic item like the usable version ^^

[hidden wraith]

I lowkey wanna ask so fucking badly where that bow is unlocked mannnnn... just tell me is it miss able or 100% just playing normal?

[magic fox]

Its a bonus weapon made for the mod ^^ Its in black Castle but at an insane price its made for Ultimate Bosses i guess ^^

[hidden wraith]

uh oh, key word insane price has me dreading just buying 2 bandit boots and 1 bandit ring for 13k gold, i have nothing left LOL

[magic fox]

40k gold the weapon ^^ if i remember well ^^

[hidden wraith]

😭

To be fair balance wise if it does actually give infinite arrows... and decent base attack power IMO fair

I'm just more surprised than anything it's available in the 1st disk???

[magic fox]

I dealt 350 damage on Zieg with a water arrow on base form ^^ didn't test on dragoon ^^

[hidden wraith]

Niiiiiiice

[magic fox]

More after the cd1 if you return ^^ I tried to go in the castle at beginning of cd4 but a pnj locked me from exiting but when i return when i came back from moon there was no more pnj to block my exit ^^

[hidden wraith]

Wait whatcha mean on png? I'm confused

Just wanna make sure i don't brick my save after being near 40 hours in

[magic fox]

When you return in Black Castle for bonus weapons, you can enter by the main door but for exit you have to exit by the resistance entrance ^^ At the beginning of CD4 someone was on my way ^^ after the moon i can freely exit by the resistance party entrance ^^

[hidden wraith]

Hmmmm i feel i'll need to make a few save backups just incase

[magic fox]

Advice : Do multiple saves and saves before entering Black Castle when you want to return in it for bonus weapons ^^ I think the pnj who blocked the way was just there for preventing curious people to go buying those weapons too earlier 🙂

[hidden wraith]

^ yuuuup tyty

Wait how'd you find out about that vendor having new gear?

[magic fox]

Stated in the readme files after ultimate bosses details ^^

[hidden wraith]

Ahhh tyty, i'll have to recheck i mainly just checked the character info

Main thing early on that caught my attention was seeing dart at the beginning making weird 1's pop up i was like wtf? This shit gotta do something

[magic fox]

Oh I try to retest the bow and now he cast an magic item ^^ I do the test before changing the patches files so it was an issue ^^ and 1988 damage ( base form ) and 2484 damage (dragoon form ) on zieg with a water arrow ^^

[iron bone]

who? i thought i fixed that for Shana maybe I forgot about the other.

[hidden wraith]

Holy crap

[hidden wraith]

Btw dude you def did a heck of a job on the mod currently, i know still ironing out the kinks but it's def a nice addition over vanilla 😄 Just wanted to pass my 2 cents

[magic fox]

The others works : It was just the case for Miranda ^^

[hidden wraith]

Iirc Miranda is start of disc 3 correct?

[iron bone]

forgotten as per usual i must have missed the additional DEFF id to clear the white screen effect

[magic fox]

3725 with Meru's Field ^^

[hidden wraith]

Whatcha mean on "Meru's" field?

[magic fox]

Special command elemental fields who boost element and weakens opposite element ^^

[hidden wraith]

Ahhhhhh those, still her hitting 4k is surprising 😮

Iirc vanilla when i last played YEARS ago i think even just hitting 1300 with her was a pretty decent freaking blow

[magic fox]

Its a Magic Attack ^^ She hits hard on Magic ^^;

[hidden wraith]

I'll be honest i'm still debating on maining shana over meru, meru was my first OG LoD completion carry, however i feel like shana deserves justice after the shithole of XP highway robbery she gets in disk 1 😅

[magic fox]

I came from vanilla game who became far too easy for me ^^ I used Shana/Miranda as a Healer and use Star Child or the Dragon after i've done healing ^^

[magic fox]

First completion team was so classic for me : Dart, Rose, Albert 🤣🤣

[hidden wraith]

The dragon is honestly SOOOO GOOOOOOD, star children i was iffy on but being able to self res teammates let's me just full send dmg and prioritize inventory items differently

[hidden wraith]

I've always meant to do a full rose clear, my OG team was Meru Dart and Kongal, cause big smash LOL

This time doing haschel dart and shana i think

that 100 movespeed is GOOOOOOD

[magic fox]

My inventory in vanilla : 16 healing breeze 6 angel's prayer 3 sun Rhapsody 3 mind purifier 3 body purifier 1 Moon Serenade/Psyche Bomb X

[magic fox]

Kongol hits like a truck 🤣🤣 But nearly gets one shot by any magic if i remember well ^^

[hidden wraith]

My ratio atm was 4-6 Angels prayers depending on upcoming boss

8-10 healing potions (will upgrade to breeze when available)

4-8 Sun Rhapsody

2 Body purifier and 2 Mind Purifier for emergency if shana goes down

Rest is either repeats or elemental weakness spells

[hidden wraith]

No freakin kidding LOL, Shana, Kongal, Dart, actually goes pretty hard

[magic fox]

Never use repeat spells besides psyche bomb X 🤣🤣

[hidden wraith]

Even power up or speed up? The delay enemy attack/stun i use for unique monsters

[magic fox]

Yup ^^

[hidden wraith]

Mind going into some detail on reasoning?

[magic fox]

Just used Additions or Dragoons addition or spell ^^

[hidden wraith]

Figured the speed one with 100 base speed from haschel would be a banger

Literally "fist" them to death

🤣

[magic fox]

The only character i gave both speed equip are Albert and Kongol because they are sooo slow 😭😭😭

[hidden wraith]

I feel ya except kongal gets 50% penalty to speed items 🙁 only reason not running em and trying haschel

[magic fox]

He got the speed penality in vanilla too ?

[hidden wraith]

I don't recall that, just a simple bandit ring or boots made em do pretty damn good

1sec

Why mod tyhe half penalty in if it was vanilla?

[magic fox]

Yes in the hell mode, i know but in vanilla game i dont think ^^

[hidden wraith]

@iron bone Want me to create seperate save instances so it makes testing a live game easier? Just example like 1-2 maybe even 3 different saves for each disc for different playthrough points... could make it potentially easier to narrow in on issues for example but not limited to Lavitz and Albert, or Shana and Miranda?

[magic fox]

Another fan suggestion : The Bonus Mace for Meru make her a huge mage with auto magic regen ( even in dragoon ) and 2x mp, but dealing 0 with Physical strikes during seven turns is hard ( the only advantage i saw to that is to use Cool Boogie ) , perhaps it will be better to made her do magical damage on her physical strike ( with maybe the drawback to made all her addition deal 100% )

[hidden wraith]

Mentioning cause about to loose lavitz from story

[magic fox]

My heart still hurt of that death 😭😭😭

[hidden wraith]

Honestly lower damage for MP regen sounds very handy....

[hidden wraith]

No kidding Lavitz was in my original playthrough til he uh... Alt F4'd out of my game then kinda went wtf

[magic fox]

I know but my game style is to charge up my character to max sp then special ^^ its very long seven turns with 0 damage 😭

[hidden wraith]

I ge that, lately been trying to go more middle or EXTREME polar opposites on the spectrum (why i mentioned kongal + shana on a team you have both of the highest extremes of each style)

The part that has me curious, is the angel scarf, and dragon shield, both state they LOWER defense of their respective half values, WHAT is the numerical or percentile value that is lowered?

And does that calculate BEFORE OR AFTER the half dmg is applied?

[magic fox]

Fun team but only possible with option to remove dart its the 3 girls in the team 🤣🤣 Huge healing and magic damage low hp and physical defense ^^

[hidden wraith]

Broooooo i wanna play that

[iron bone]

I have a save at every point and used all 8 characters 👀

[hidden wraith]

Ahhh kk, was just offering to help 😉

[magic fox]

He spent years on that ^^ Was playing another version of his mods 3 years ago with a psx emulator and his mode besides ^^ Severed Chains and Dragoon Modifier mod is a much better play option 🙂

[hidden wraith]

Was not aware it's been in the works that long, makes it even better!

[hidden wraith]

How the hell did you get Miranda's hp to 6k?????

[magic fox]

Lvl 60 hp ^^

[magic fox]

Its shana's Page but they share the same stats ^

[magic fox]

He probably spent a decade on this mod.

[rough tree]

Heya @iron bone , found a retail bug in the equipment stats csv, angel robe causes weapon status effects to be increased by 40% when equipped together

Plus I’m thinking permanent status effects on weapons are a bit strong, maybe they should tuned down to 10%? Like Fear and poison

I would edit them myself, but my computer won’t let me for some reason, “try reinstalling” it says, grrr

[hidden wraith]

Can you elaborate slightly? Example Haschel i have the stun chance weapon on, no angel robe, yet he can stun pretty darn often. As for the permanent status I went and tested a few times of stunning stuff then just guarding for a few turns, effects break free and go away

Did not test fear or poison though

[iron bone]

I boosted all the status chances of those weapons. I don't think the status chance on angle robe will also boost the status chance on the weapons but I would have to take a look.

[urban haven]

took me 4 tries to get the rewards from ultimate commander

[feral bramble]

i got it the 2nd time when selecting "next ultimate boss" instead of "ultimate boss" should be garunteed im pretty sure

[iron bone]

i think all the weird minor issues are solved and i will have another update tonight fixing that issue

[grizzled night]

was about to go update it seeing the messages from over the last several days, but guess ill wait for this next one xD

[iron bone]

???

the latest update has more fixes what do you mean

[grizzled night]

oh i misread then, i thought you had said there was going to be another new one tonight, wasnt sure if it was out yet or not since there wasnt a further message about such, my bad 😅

[urban haven]

I did feel like my arrows were always inflicting status on shana. Chalked it up to plague boots and good luck but it makes sense

[rough tree]

The reason it happens is that Angel robe erroneously had status effect chance set to 40% as well as the Angel robe revive chance, for some reason, the coding has other equipment that can boost status aliment affliction for some reason

[iron bone]

i see i must have typod that in somewhere

the emu dramod v4 doesn't have it

[iron bone]

ah no straight from the ROM

angel robe has 40% status chance

[hollow ridge]

Can anyone tell me what Siphon Overflow for Rose, Wind Barrier for Lavitz/Albert and Static Charge for Haschel does?

[hollow ridge]

I assumed it was explained in the readme file but it's not in there and there's no info on the descriptions of those moves

[iron bone]

did i not package the correct readme for the release

@hollow ridge https://github.com/Legend-of-Dragoon-Modding/sc-dragoon-modifier/blob/hellmode/mods/dramod-readme.txt

[hidden wraith]

This?

Obivously diff character didn't scroll down, but says what all the stuff does

[hollow ridge]

I might have put it somewhere else like a moron or something but thanks putting this in a secure folder

[vast adder]

Hi everyone why is it when i edit monster _data my characters attacks drops to 0

[sweet wyvern]

Can you be more specific about what you edited?

[vast adder]

I edited the Monster_data on Dragoon modifier 3.5.5 in the hard mode mods folder for emulator

Using retroarch

[sweet wyvern]

What did you change in it?

[vast adder]

The monster experience

[sweet wyvern]

I'm thinking you may have made a mistake in it and the file is no longer being loaded properly?

[vast adder]

But the thing is the experience gained after battling is correct its only physical attacks don't hit magic attacks land as well as dragoon attacks

[sweet wyvern]

Sorry, I'm not sure then, I'm not very familiar with dramod

[vast adder]

Could it be that the experience is tied to the physical attacks 🤔

I did manage to get severed chains running but now the new issue is when Lavitz joins the party battling slows down but when dart is the only one it runs perfectly

[iron bone]

if it worked normally before on hard/hell mode presets before you changed something then you must have changed the wrong thing.

[vast adder]

@iron bone all i did was change the experience per monster by just doubling it

[iron bone]

dramod replaces everything when battles loads changing the numbers shouldn't affect that

[vast adder]

I think i am going to change one monster at a time and test it

Doesn't matter what monster you change this happens 🤔

[urban haven]

was the gamestate editor disabled in the most recent release?

[untold zealot]

just tested, I also can not open it. nor combat window while in combat.

[south snow]

Hello. I've been a long time lurker in the severed chains project. Finally had some time to download the main devbuild and start it. I then remembered there was a hell mode/hard mode, so figured I'd download that as well haha. Anyways, thank you all for the work that has been put into these. The update graphics are phenomenal. I do have a question on the dragmod. It seems Dragoon is available right at the beginning. Is that intentional?

Collecting SP from beginning etc. As well. Normal? Settings to change this so it's like the main game or am I going to want this on this soon haha

[sweet wyvern]

I can open both with no issues on mainline SC

So it must be an issue with Zy's build

[iron bone]

i mean that looks like you don't have a helmet on..

helmets are how players get their accuracy stats

[iron bone]

disabled

[iron bone]

Hell Mode is designed to have dragoons from the start. I think you can turn that off with the dramod menu...?

[urban haven]

on purpose? was kinda nice being able to fix/verify bugs or change stuff. Speaking of, was the kongol speed up bug fixed?

[iron bone]

nope just fixed it three letter typo

[full bolt]

That also means we can't know their def/mdef and speed?

[iron bone]

DF/MDF is same as US retail for hell mode

i'll add it to the HP bar.

[urban haven]

so when i use miranda's light arrow dragoon spell, i just get a softlock where the camera pans around her once

[iron bone]

that will be removed next patch

shana doesn't have it, i thought i removed it for both when i did it.

[urban haven]

the spell in general is getting removed?

[iron bone]

wait does shana have it

[urban haven]

about to test it

[urban haven]

with miranda, i got the white flash once, and then camera pan softlock twice

shana said she learned light arrow on exp screen so we'll see

ahh she has it but its 50mp instead of 0

and white screen, yeah

white screen gang gang

[south snow]

I don't see where, but that's alright. Sorry, I stepped away from the game for a bit. Thanks for the response! One thing I have noticed is the enrage and elemental bomb keep turning on, when I cycle them off. Really makes the fight difficult with only dart, so far, as if under half health they can kill him in a single shot after enraged. I'm thinking this won't be as big of an issue once 2-3 heroes, but as a single, man it sure makes it so u have to stay above 75% health incase they use magic item.

[iron bone]

Hell Mode will have some options always turned on.

[south snow]

Ok. I imagine once lavitz comes it won't be so bad haha. Taught me to save a bunch already lol

I wasn't sure if that was a bug or not though, with it turning itself back on every battle

[iron bone]

ultimate boss glitch fixed now too

[full bolt]

Thanks for adding their stats!

[grizzled night]

So, been getting a consistent crash on steam deck whenever I put Shana as the only party member

[iron bone]

Is it a specific battle? Can you repeat this crash, close the game, and put the debug.log from the Severed Chains folder in this chat?

[grizzled night]

I don't even get to a battle, just the act of only putting her in the party does it, it will get that for ya in a sec

[iron bone]

Are you trying to do this while the game menu is open?

[grizzled night]

Its while im in the party selection menu, i remove everyone else from the party so its just shana, go to close the menu, and it crashes. try to boot from the crash save, crashes again.

i think this is it?

[iron bone]

send the save too

[grizzled night]

the crash save or the general save from right before doing so with her?

[iron bone]

crash save

[iron bone]

oh-

you can only have a single character party using the first slot.

it's why in dramenu it's has remove second/third slot

the world map reads the character in the first slot only which is why it is crashing.

[grizzled night]

ohhh ok

[iron bone]

@sweet wyvern want me to fix the above issue?

[sweet wyvern]

Log it, I'll fix it tonight

[iron bone]

assigned you the issue

[sweet wyvern]

Thanks

[grizzled night]

Think I saw it posted somewhere here before, but was there a list of where to get each of the arrows for Shana/Miranda?

[iron bone]

Fire Arrow - Volcano Villude
Water Arrow - Undersea Cavern
Water Arrow - Kashua Glacier
Wind Arrow - Nest of Dragon
Wind Arrow - Evergreen Forest
Earth Arrow - Home of Giganto
Earth Arrow - Kadessa
Dark Arrow - Phantom Ship
Dark Arrow - Death City Mayfil
Light Arrow - Moon
Light Arrow - Shrine of Shirley
Thunder Arrow - Vellweb
Thunder Arrow - Flanvel Tower

[grizzled night]

Ty

[urban haven]

whats the difference between the level 6 dragoon attacks and a standard d attack, other than the MP cost?

[iron bone]

elemental infusion

[urban haven]

normal D attacks dont deal elemental based damage?

Also, i think "save anywhere" and "quick text" are being disabled at random since the latest update.

[iron bone]

no they don't but the important thing to the devs is that they look like they did.

[iron bone]

save anywhere has disabled zones to stop you from soft locking yourself in new base SC. i have no clue about quick text.

[vast adder]

Any chance that dragoon modifier has been updated

[unborn flame]

im actually just learning this whaaaaaaaaaat

[iron bone]

after work i will put an update here

[vast adder]

@iron bone thank you so much

[iron bone]

replace this in your main folder for the performance update

@vast adder

[vast adder]

@iron bone thank you so much

battle is still laging

[untold zealot]

beat doel lvl 16
dart, rose, lavitz lvl 3
9 angel prayers, 11 healing fogs
no item magic, saved d/dspecial till 3-turn kill range, had the shield activate at highest hp on doel
max additions on rose and lavitz

was a bit of an rng dps check depending on if doel aoe'd or single targeted at red hp in final two turns
pretty satisfying disc 1 experience
ty Zychronix

[iron bone]

i forgot i renamed it for some reason

[vast adder]

@iron bone i did rename it but the min battling starts fps drops to 10

[vast adder]

Trying it again now

[vast adder]

@iron bone this what happens but on the dev build it runs perfectly

this is the dev build running

[hidden wraith]

What is the average clear time for disk 1 from start for most people?

[iron bone]

that's odd. if you set graphics resolution to 480p does it do the same thing? if anything it should only lag from the extra events which is the single target monster event.

[iron bone]

took me 19 hours

[hidden wraith]

ty, trying to get one of my buddies to try the hell mode lol, i told em i'm over 30 hours but that's cause brute force working on catching shana up from disk one screwing her lmao

[iron bone]

you can add shana back when she goes missing the second time

[hidden wraith]

That is def good to know, shrine of shirley was a massive xp shafting

[iron bone]

i should add it to the dramenu for hoax. you used to be able to in the emulator version.

also you can level sync the entire party for hell mode

[hidden wraith]

I seen that option but trying damn hard not to use it, trying to keep as close to vanilla as possible but ramped difficulty, so stuff like next turn order also not using

[iron bone]

🇧

[hidden wraith]

B? I r confused lol

[iron bone]

sorry 🇧 less*. i did intend to make hell mode shorter because there is two new features alongside expanded ultimate boss that will be present.

[hidden wraith]

Can you elaborate slightly on the shorter hell mode?

[iron bone]

if you do use the options in the dramenu you don't have to grind unless you get stuck somewhere

the bosses all give 50% exp and counts every party member as alive.

[hidden wraith]

That is handy to know, not telling buddy that LOL, this will be his first time playing LoD and yeeting his ass right into hell mode, with the wager each disk he beats i'd buy em a steam game 🤣 I feel pretty confident Hoax ninja gatekeeping him

[iron bone]

💀

too bad hard mode isn't out yet that is more friendly.

but hell mode for a steam game hmm

[hidden wraith]

I think it's a fair price to make him be a masochist for a couple weeks LOL

[iron bone]

im not sure if people will have trouble with new lloyd on disc 3.

i beat it fine though.

[hidden wraith]

That is one of the fights i've been most excited for on hell mode PLEASE tell me it's a challenge 😢

[iron bone]

well i didn't break my rule of changing story bosses "battle ai" so i gave him 100 speed.

divine dragon cannon also has 100 speed i think

[hidden wraith]

🤣

[iron bone]

most of ultimate boss will have their battle ai changed so i've been saving it for that

so you won't be able to cheese ultimate lloyd with talisman

[hidden wraith]

Question on that, do you have a ball park on when ultimate mode bosses will be updated? Hoping a release update occurs before he reaches that point cause i wanna watch em try it lol

[hidden wraith]

What about 1 turn dragoon changing? Should lloyd get a buff or change tactics if people are 1 turn transforming?

[iron bone]

i will probably add it to the turn rotation and make it a normal can't combat move

i haven't got there yet

[hidden wraith]

Ahh fair fair, figured it would be pretty amusing to temporarily lock out detransform menu for that fight or make him do like 2x or 3x damage targetting whoever transformed LOL

[vast adder]

@iron bone does the exact same thing doesn't matter wich resolution you pick it only happens if you have 3 people in your party if its only one then it doesn't happen

[vast adder]

Hi is it possible to make your own mods for sc dev build

[nova mulch]

at 22 hours, I am almost done with the ghost ship

and thats with occasionally standing around : P

[iron bone]

are you using a controller?

oh wait the clip has the buttons on the additions

hmm

this has dramods excessive logging turned off

[nova mulch]

Do I grab the forbidden fruit

[iron bone]

if you are having performance issues

i have the logging on for the weird healing bug to see if that was fixed

[nova mulch]

I suppose the real question is... is my Dramod up to date

[sweet wyvern]

@iron bone I just pushed the major performance enhancements

[iron bone]

LETS GET THAT MERGE

🚄

[nova mulch]

I THINK I have been playing the last Dramod patch, and not the most recent one

clearly, this means I need to start all over again

[iron bone]

damn git is too slow

[hidden wraith]

Uhhhhh why is a guard option showing up for dart dragoon? Just went to test the lv 6 spell

[nova mulch]

ngl Zych, I would have laughed my ass off, if you had said that you were dropping another version right after I started this one

[iron bone]

guard is a part of the dragoon kit now at level 6 🙂

[sweet wyvern]

One user on low end hardware is seeing almost a 70% increase in performance

[hidden wraith]

Ooooo interesting good to know

[iron bone]

im not changing icon positions wait for rb4 😭

[hidden wraith]

I can heal in dragoon form now hell yeah!

[vast adder]

@iron bone will give it a try quickly

[iron bone]

wait for bit i will merge the SC performance changes

[vast adder]

@iron bone thank you so much wil wait for the changes really exited now 😁

[iron bone]

???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

java module
intellij open
visual studio code :)?
didn't change settings to use visual studio code

[sweet wyvern]

Fucking microsoft

[iron bone]

me using texture from PNG
git "there is no conflict with this"

???

[tired orbit]

i ❤️ vscode

[iron bone]

oh gurl i got work to do uh

[iron bone]

i have every script decompiled so my vs code lags opening

[tired orbit]

i also have everything decompiled but no lag idk

[iron bone]

@sweet wyvern did you remove texturefrompng because it wasn't used or a performance thing?

(it's needed for dramod and upscale project)

[sweet wyvern]

I removed it because it was unused, what were you using it for?

[iron bone]

dramod's extra ui and well the background and foreground objects for upscale project.

[tired orbit]

uh

I think all my mods use that 😭

[sweet wyvern]

Explain why you need VramTexture though

And not a regular texture

[iron bone]

because i am dumb and don't know another alternative.

uh for dramod i am building a large texture split by multiple PNG files so i am using the builder.

the turn order display is one texture with 8(16?) pngs attached to it.

    if(!Files.exists(path)) {
      path = Path.of("gfx", "ui", "turnorder", player ? "player" : "monster", "unknown.png");
    }

    final VramTextureSingle texture = (VramTextureSingle)VramTextureLoader.textureFromPng(path);
    this.turnOrderTexture.data(0, 120 * index, 240, 120, texture.getData());
  }```

you were also the one who told me not to use 8 different textures and build it in one 😆

[sweet wyvern]

Okay, you're using it to assemble the texture in memory?

Can you just store it as one file in the filesystem?

[iron bone]

Yes sir.

[sweet wyvern]

That's better for loading anyway

[iron bone]

this part i can't because it's dynamic based on mosnter/party

which is better, building it in vram or loading 8 textures for each BENT

[sweet wyvern]

Probably best to do what you were doing

You can re-add it

[iron bone]

If Icarus was using it I bet Senerio was also using it.

All their mods might have just broke

[sweet wyvern]

@tired orbit what were you using it for?

@visual crane are you using VramTexture?

[tired orbit]

I think I mixed up, were you talking about Texture.png

[sweet wyvern]

Okay

[tired orbit]

wdym okay 😭

[iron bone]

VramTextureSingle texture = (VramTextureSingle)VramTextureLoader.textureFromPng(path);

this one 😛

[tired orbit]

not Texture.png then

[visual crane]

Maybe?

[tired orbit]

alr

[iron bone]

@vast adder and anyone else wanting the performance build. extract and replace to your separated SC folder for dramod

[vast adder]

@iron bone must i use this on dramod version

[iron bone]

Yes

The 1.3 beta should be in another folder

[vast adder]

@iron bone will quickly test it with a fresh copy

@iron bone getting weird glitches

no character moddels and when batteling everything is black

when trying to go to options

Also can't start new game as game instantly crashes

Only loading previous save game works but then you get the black screen glitches

[iron bone]

did you replace everything in that zip

[vast adder]

I did replace everything on a fresh copy

I see someone els also has the same problem

[iron bone]

i just saw playerhelp sounds like a base SC issue and monoxide will take a look when he is not busy

[vast adder]

But i can confirm that the fps was stable when i tried it even though it was missing models 😆

[iron bone]

i am getting the new campaign thhing but not the missing models in battles

[vast adder]

I will quickly show you what i mean one sec

[sweet wyvern]

Just pushed a fix for the crash

[sweet wyvern]

Well that sure is something

Can you look in the console window near the top and see if there are any shader errors?

[vast adder]

sure thing give me one sec

01:09:47.434 [Hardware legend.core.opengl.Shader:168] ERROR: Uniform block lighting not found in shader 9
01:09:47.435 [Hardware legend.core.opengl.Shader:168] ERROR: Uniform block clutAnimation not found in shader 9
01:09:47.438 [Hardware legend.core.opengl.Shader:77] INFO : Compiling shader vs[gfx\shaders\tmd.vsh] gs[gfx\shaders\tmd.gsh] fs[gfx\shaders\tmd.fsh]
01:09:47.442 [Hardware legend.core.opengl.Shader:168] ERROR: Uniform block clutAnimation not found in shader 13
01:09:47.444 [Hardware legend.core.opengl.Shader:77] INFO : Compiling shader vs[gfx\shaders\battle_tmd.vsh] gs[gfx\shaders\tmd.gsh] fs[gfx\shaders\battle_tmd.fsh]
01:09:47.449 [Hardware legend.core.opengl.Shader:168] ERROR: Uniform block clutAnimation not found in shader 17

only those 3 show up

i meant 4 sorry

[sweet wyvern]

@iron bone you need to distribute the new shaders

[iron bone]

I did

[sweet wyvern]

I don't see them in your perf test zip

[iron bone]

???

I will check in 20

[sweet wyvern]

@vast adder extract this into your gfx/shaders folder and overwrite the old ones

[vast adder]

@sweet wyvern thanks will do that now quickly

works perfectly going to test with quick boss battle

[sweet wyvern]

Running smoothly now?

[vast adder]

runs absolutely beautiful no laggin nothing and running at 1080p on my pc😁

[iron bone]

oh they were in my build folder but not the zip

[vast adder]

@iron bone @sweet wyvern thank you guys so much 😁

[sweet wyvern]

You're welcome

[vast adder]

no sleep here i come 😆

[hidden wraith]

Errrr....

Just to check, I dont need to install any of the past 5-6 downloads for an update correct...?

[sweet wyvern]

Doesn't look like it

@iron bone can you try merging main.stacks into your code and see if there are any major issues?

[iron bone]

Do you want just me to test or a few people to test with the dramod update

[sweet wyvern]

Having a few people test would be good to make sure I didn't break any events

[hidden wraith]

Test what specifically? I can make a copy of my files so I dont ruin the save but on disk 1

[sweet wyvern]

Long story short I completely rewrote the inventory handling to support item stacks and durability (for mods, not changing the base game)

So everything that touches items

[hidden wraith]

So basically, just make sure my items work normally?

[sweet wyvern]

Exactly

I also added an option so you can enable item stacking in the base game

[vast adder]

why is it when you increase inventory size it resets to 32 after battling

[sweet wyvern]

A lot of options are locked in hell mode

[sweet wyvern]

Will have to wait til Zy does the merge though which might take a bit, I changed a lot

[hidden wraith]

Sure, dm me if you can the update, just tell me where to drop the file and what to override and I'll do that after I get home

Out for another 4 hours or so playing magic the gathering with the boys, got knocked out so checking discord lol

[sweet wyvern]

Sounds good

[vast adder]

@sweet wyvern so far items works like it should will keep you updated as i progress

[hidden wraith]

I only have one breezing wind btw

Have multiples of all the others to test properly later, gonna try emperor doel when I get back or tomorrow morning

[fallen kettle]

I’m at Lenus 2 now—I apologize for ever saying Lenus 1 was too difficult 🤣

[iron bone]

OPINION OFFICIALLY SWAPPED

I am waiting for Divine Dragon and Lloyd opinion reversals

[fallen kettle]

I do feel like I have more agency of my strategy at this point though. Just requires some tweaking and testing.

[nova mulch]

on my solo run Haschel went to town on Lenus 1

[hidden wraith]

I'm confused, me no see NPC

[nova mulch]

first visit?

cause they appear after beating doel

[hidden wraith]

Ahhhhh alright thank you for clarifying and yup first time with the mod installed lol

[hollow ridge]

Quick question. After unlocking Miranda in Disc 3 I don't see her in my party. Is this a bug of some kind?

[iron bone]

Who?

did you click on the "don't click" option in dramenu?

[hollow ridge]

I don't see a "don't click" option

[iron bone]

you already clicked the don't click option that's why

[hollow ridge]

Interesting. Don't remember doing that. Do I need to undo that?

[iron bone]

you can undo it by using game state editor finding dart, changing it to that character, and setting that character's party flag to 0x3.

[hollow ridge]

Game state editor?

Bear with me I've finally understood most of the mod

But I haven't heard that one yet

How do I access that?

[iron bone]

F12

i renabled it if you have the performance test version

[hollow ridge]

Ah yes I remember this screen I would use it to reposition in case Dart gets stuck

Only time I would ever use it

Ok I'm in Gamestate editor now

[iron bone]

find dart, change it to whoever

the second box beside it change it to party flag

then the text box set it to 0x3

and hit set

[hollow ridge]

When you mean find Dart you mean?

above path index right?

[iron bone]

yeah

[hollow ridge]

Oh I see got it now thank you

Ok and how do you remove characters?

To add is 0x3

To remove is?

[sweet wyvern]

0

[hollow ridge]

Ok thanks

[grizzled night]

finally made it to Lenus pt 2, and was not expecting to get nuked immediately getting into the fight xD

[hidden wraith]

Bro you got me excited 😂

Took an unexpected nap but gonna knock doel out and race there

[grizzled night]

Sorry 🤣 but yeah no, the dragon got a turn right away, wiped out Albert and Kongol, and then Lenus finished off Haschel, all before I even got a turn 💀

[hidden wraith]

🤣 🤣

Team im trying atm is shana and haschel with dart

[grizzled night]

That tsunami move did 1800+ across the board

[hidden wraith]

Sheeeeesh

[grizzled night]

I'm......not sure how I'm getting past this atm xD

[hidden wraith]

Also low key I think dragonhelm so early on breaks shanas balance

Literally all pluses for her and tips exactly what she needs

[grizzled night]

Yeah I probably should have farmed that

That's the +50% HP helm right?

[hidden wraith]

I only did one for her, I've seen teams do all 3

Yeah, but also gives physical protection and magic OFFENSE

[grizzled night]

Oh

[hidden wraith]

Exactly the three things shana likes

[grizzled night]

Yeahhhhh xD

And I can't go back at this point to get it either 💀

[hidden wraith]

Oof

Wait

I wonder how dart will do, I got em almost dragoon level 7 before doel with heat blade

So that 2x element damage wonder how it will work if she's swinging 1800

[grizzled night]

oh no

[grizzled night]

Dart after getting hit by that move

[hidden wraith]

🤣

To be fair, he gonna blow his load too

[grizzled night]

Imma go try it with him real quick

[hidden wraith]

Main thing is the fire attack at lv 6, plus heat blade, plus dragoon field is what im curious on

[grizzled night]

Yeah, I only have him at lvl5 dragoon atm

I've been focusing more on additions lol

[hidden wraith]

Fair

Although do the elemental dragoon attacks at 6 STACK with the elemental swords?

[grizzled night]

I don't think they do (unless you toggle the setting for equips being applied in dragoon?)

[hidden wraith]

Hmm

Testing is required! When I get out of this castle lol

[grizzled night]

Solitary ring is....weird xD

[iron bone]

the elemental infusion should work I hope. i forgot i haven't tested it in ages.

[hidden wraith]

Uhhhh used Shana's light attack at dragoon level 6 and this happened, music still going in background but game broke

These are last game files before i had to ALTF4

[vast adder]

@iron bone

happend when lavitz transformed as a dragoon

[iron bone]

Are you using long or short dragoon animations? Is this error repeatable?

[vast adder]

Long transformations going to see if it happens again now

[sweet wyvern]

I tried on main and didn't repro

[iron bone]

I don't think me adding a new Dragoon Spell would cause that.

[iron bone]

known issue. to be removed most likely or fixed.

[sweet wyvern]

Our line numbers don't match up but I assume it's this line since it's the only one doing division (modulo)

[iron bone]

i tried long and short and it didn't happen but i am on a new branch now

[sweet wyvern]

h either comes from a C container or script

Don't see how it could be the C container part since those files don't change

[iron bone]

🧐

[vast adder]

loaded an early save and tried it again didn't happen now. Happened at the cave guardian boss fight

[sweet wyvern]

That rect is loaded from the deff system

If you shuffled around the indices that would cause it

[vast adder]

what is the map code for the cave with the guardian

[sweet wyvern]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1sP1GV29Ri6SxwuLQjn64Dn1c1cYPRlGOecPczGfqSTo/edit?gid=1245255502#gid=1245255502

[iron bone]

the only deff i touched was the snek's spit attack so if anything would have messed up it would be something there

[sweet wyvern]

Very suspicious that that is the fight she got the crash in eh?

[vast adder]

@sweet wyvern @iron bone

when trying to warp to cave room before boss battle

[tired orbit]

the deff mines giveth and the the deff mines taketh away

[iron bone]

map 52?

[vast adder]

it did work but something else happened it warped me to after the boss fight 🤔

tried to warp to map 51 game crashes

[iron bone]

i can only assume when the game crashes in the middle of the boss fight the story flags are changed

best to load a save before the crash

[vast adder]

just loaded one now will see if it happens again

[sweet wyvern]

@iron bone what did you change in the deff?

[iron bone]

the attack % that's it.

[sweet wyvern]

I wonder if it was a recomp issue

Any suspicious looking tables?

[iron bone]

literally just 0x64 to 0x7D

[sweet wyvern]

Doesn't mean there weren't table entries that didn't get missed by the decompiler heuristics

[iron bone]

wait the script is only changed for the ultimate boss version

so that can't be it

[sweet wyvern]

Are you loading more deffs?

[iron bone]

No

[hollow ridge]

Quick question. I'm trying to use the Queen Fury to get back to Furni and it keeps circling back to Fueno like it's blocking my way back. Do I need to use Gamestate editor for that as well?

[iron bone]

world map analog code is jank use the normal dpad

[hollow ridge]

Interesting. Thanks.

[vast adder]

Just transformed with Lavitz against boss no crash 🤔

Could it be because he was about to die mabye as he had 1 hit left before he was going to die

[tired orbit]

rc 🫠

[sweet wyvern]

@tired orbit I know there is some kind of race condition on game loading but it might just be from the in-game load menu

If you load a game at high game speed it can partially load

Like it can replace your gamestate but not actually bring you to the right map

Stuff like that

[tired orbit]

lavitz deff has no texture animation call

its engine

[sweet wyvern]

Logging isn't good enough for script crashes that don't happen as the result of a script call

This was from the scripted object ticker

But it doesn't tell us which object

I need to improve that

[hidden wraith]

As in only hers removed or all lv 6 spells?

[sweet wyvern]

@iron bone I improved error logging for script ticker/renderer crashes, sync main when you can

[vast adder]

No crash this time everything worked perfectly tried the exact same approach as before but this time it didn't happen

[sweet wyvern]

Isn't game dev great 😛

[vast adder]

Don't understand why it happened maybe it wanted Lavitz to die before Lloyd could get to him 😂

[sweet wyvern]

Hell mode fights took too long and Melbu remade the world

[iron bone]

timed battles in hell mode great idea!

[vast adder]

He was like time to kill that troublesome Lavitz Lloyd is taking to long

[iron bone]

?? hers only

[hidden wraith]

Ahh kk

[sweet wyvern]

Going outside to work on the house, ping me if y'all figure anything out

[nova mulch]

ok, for solo run, ghost commander is definitely going to be the biggest roadblock

and not for the obvious reason of stun locking

well i mean, that TOO

[nova mulch]

Guess I will find out what the fake solitary ring does vs Lenus 2 here in a bit

hmmmmmmm, either this fish is SUPER evasive, or something fishy going on...

super evasive/bad luck, go it

[iron bone]

if there was a second ring slot i would add accuracy rings

next update will have more equip and interesting item options 👀

[sweet wyvern]

I plan to allow mods to add more equip slots in the future

[hidden wraith]

Is there any items being taken out that way i can make sure not to try certain new ones? The bottles in start of disc two definitely are nice surprise (specially the 20 mp one)

Uhhhh I think darts dragoon broke

Dude does like 200-300 against most trash mobs with dragoon additions

Did the fight where I lose my dragoon, he was hitting for over 1200 on Mappi, but 1500 on the two trash mobs with em

Scaling caught me completely off guard lol

Had heat blade equipped and did special for the field, not sure if that would affect but just mentioning

[iron bone]

So FF7 menu to fit that onto the screen ui?

[iron bone]

no

[nova mulch]

Lenus 2 is fun

with solo meru

super easy fight, just tedious

but not like, doel tedious

more like, they are damage sponges, and I would have to fuck up massively to actually lose

can anyone spot the Lenus in this fight?

its concerning how often the dragon is counter attacking

I should probably have looked up if it counters every single attack