#raid block

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halcyon coral
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i like the raid block of 2 minutes but i think when you are raid blocked you shouldnt be able to get a full seal during the raid block timer. i feel as if you are in raid block it should be at most half hp walls on things you seal.. this is a huge turn off to this server. thoughts ?

hallow stone
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Thats just a vanilla thing so we probably wont change that.

sonic osprey
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evan just half hp?

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server is modded might as well make it better for a online

halcyon coral
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all it does is incentivize offlines

hallow stone
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I get it, But for defenders it makes it WAY harder, For smaller groups this is great but for the bigger groups this would be insane to have.

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Every raid would even easier for them.

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Defending will be impossible against groups of 4+

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Especially with how grubby the server is in general because its a random farming ofc

sonic osprey
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i mean not really impossible

halcyon coral
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theres 100 ways to stop bigger groups with building

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build base designs with ping walls

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so you can spam walls

sonic osprey
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turruts, shotguntraps

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and 90% of the server is just offline, no one really does do a online

hallow stone
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This wont change that

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Just very annoying when defending

halcyon coral
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it will make people have more confidence to online

hallow stone
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Yes but it will remove the confidence for defenders

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Theres just so many instances where if you cant properly place a wall you just simply will not win the raid.

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Especially when spamming rockets.

halcyon coral
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i really dont think that discourages

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cause even a half hp wall is still 8 rockets

hallow stone
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I raid more then i defend but even i think it will make it WAY to easy to raid

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it already is insanely easy to raid on the random farming

halcyon coral
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thats still enough of a seal to fix other stuff thats broken behind that wall

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before they get 8 rockets in

hallow stone
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A wall will be low hp and can not be repaired.

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for 99% of servers thats how raidblock works with these systems

halcyon coral
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you can repair for instance on atlas you can repair up to the % of the wall thats placed during raid block

sonic osprey
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what if you make it so if you place a wall, it comes low hp but you are able to repair it to 100%

halcyon coral
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even that works ^

sonic osprey
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still gives the defenders a chance and the raiders

hallow stone
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Well if we do that i will likely make it so there is no block, So the 30s timer after a wall breaks will be gone to

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Otherwise trying to place walls will just be to hard

halcyon coral
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thats fine

hallow stone
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the wood thing that appears i mean with that

halcyon coral
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yea thats fine

hallow stone
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But idk ill see

halcyon coral
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even that works

hallow stone
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For sure wont be coming in the next few weeks though

halcyon coral
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its just a 2 minute raid block is short and a full hqm wall is like a sure shot way to end someones raid

hallow stone
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Personally always hated servers with these systems

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they are just to easy to raid on

sonic osprey
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but the RF servers, no one does a online

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its mostly us when we are on

hallow stone
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This really wont change that

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its random farming

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people raid anything

halcyon coral
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effe i genuinely think it would change it

hallow stone
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It really wouldnt though

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Most people on the random farming absolutely suck

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they wont online

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ever

sonic osprey
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plus it would make you play different instead of just sealing

halcyon coral
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yes they do but they are also turned off to the fact of a full hqm wall seal

hallow stone
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We could literally give them a box of rockets for free to raid a 2x2 online

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and they wont do it

sonic osprey
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true, its something to think about in the next few updates

halcyon coral
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i think yes you will still see alot of offlines thats never gonna change

sonic osprey
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might make raiding different

hallow stone
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Well yeah but these systems would be fine on a server where its hard to get explosives.

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But if you can get rockets from trees...

halcyon coral
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however for the people who actually have the bnuts to online they can or even the new guys getting into it and want to shoot their shot can try

hallow stone
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explosives are just to easy to get, everyone has boxes of rockets.

sonic osprey
hallow stone
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our 10x?

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no

sonic osprey
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no no other

hallow stone
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some others?

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yes

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But those are VERY highly modded servers

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tping, homes, everything that you can think of basically

halcyon coral
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like you said.. they suck... so even if you waas to change it theyd still have to work to get the job done and if they did then job well done

hallow stone
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We always try to avoid these annoying things

sonic osprey
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see we didn't add it due to we are able to shoot rockets instantly and 1 kit gives you ALOT

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but on a server like this it might be worth thinking about it

hallow stone
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And as i mentioned, This is especially insane for bigger groups, If you are 4+ you will never ever ever lose a raid again.

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Online or offline

bitter walrus
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pleae no raidblock

sonic osprey
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ive been solo and won near enough most times

bitter walrus
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sealing is apart of the game

sonic osprey
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just kill them all, and then seal

hallow stone
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Like dont get me wrong, Im all in for more onlines.

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But this will also just get way more people to just quit the server when getting raided because they physically can not defend.

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Most people live in small bases.

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They cant seal an outside wall to then repair walls inside

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They have 1 chance, with 1 wall.

bitter walrus
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if you can't seal correctly, it's unfun

halcyon coral
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i mean if you build a 2x2 on RF like i mean comeon your getting raided..

hallow stone
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I would rather see these systems in vanilla then i would in a random farming / 10x

halcyon coral
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thats just what it is

hallow stone
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its already more then easy enough

halcyon coral
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i gaurantee i could be solo on the server and stop an 8 man from raiding me

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gaurantee it

hallow stone
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When you have a bigger base, Yes.

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But like i said most smaller groups dont.

bitter walrus
halcyon coral
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then take the time to build a base?

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like slapping down a 2x2 is means to an end

hallow stone
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We all know most people dont do that.

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The map is to small and resources are hard to just farm.

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You cant go around to smack a few ores and upgrade your base.

sonic osprey
# hallow stone its already more then easy enough

it is very easy to raid, but to online a massive base you will need a bit of help. that's why if you make it half hp it would be better and give who ever is raiding more of a chance to win. if you are defending you need to play differently and rely on your base to withstand

bitter walrus
hallow stone
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For those this is just VERY bad

sonic osprey
bitter walrus
hallow stone
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And realistically there is like 3-4 big bases on the entire server that these things would be good for.

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And for the rest of the bases it will make raiding to easy

sonic osprey
halcyon coral
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yea but the small groups as you say raiding a 2x2 with the implementations we talked about would still work in the small groups behalf

bitter walrus
halcyon coral
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no 30 second timer to seal

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immediate seal but half hp

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or low hp

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and you repair it up

bitter walrus
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30 sec timer just buffs kits

halcyon coral
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im talking about removing 30 second timer

hallow stone
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I honestly think the only way to balance this at all is to not have the 30s timer AND allow bgrade...

halcyon coral
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they have to currently wait 30 seconds to place a wall

hallow stone
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but thats just insta seal

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So cant do that either

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It just wont be balanced

halcyon coral
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in a 2x2 thats a death sentance

hallow stone
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I know, But this really wont help it like i said. Everyone has boxes of explosives lol

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they can just raid infinitely

bitter walrus
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bring more boom, no need for this

upper bear
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Fr they losers

hallow stone
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#📝changelog message

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To just mention this is purely a test and we will see what players think overall.

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Had to modify the plugin quite a bit to atleast make it somewhat balanced.
by default things will always spawn at 1 hp after upgrading which is no longer the case with this.
i made healing quite fast as we dont want to give raiders a stupid amount of time to grab more boom, regroup or something like that. its purely meant for a system while ACTIVELY raiding.

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@halcyon coral @sonic osprey

worn jacinth
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W

sonic osprey
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ill give it a go on the weekend

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@halcyon coral

sonic osprey
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@halcyon coral

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^

halcyon coral
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Helllllll yea

worn jacinth
sonic osprey
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Yes

worn jacinth
clever hull
clever hull
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Yes

keen jasper
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Thanks for getting this ball on the roll, i like this half health rebuild during raids.. much appreciated!

clever hull
sonic osprey
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its good for onlines tho

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we can actually do a raid without them sealing 100% of the hp

clever hull