If you have any questions about the Eclipse of the Heart quest you would like answered on this wednesday's stream, ask them below!
#Eclipse of the Heart Questions for Stream on July 30th
spark lichen
lost sapphire
Who are the voice actors? is it anybody we know? They were great!
mild crystal
i have to ask - and i acknowledge there probably isn't an answer yet, or one that we're allowed to know - is this detail something that you wanted to tell us in this quest without it necessarily being something that will have any sort of relevance or explanation in the future? Like, did you have this idea in mind and know you wanted to tell us but don't know/intend to touch on it in the future (in that we're "done" with Tumeken lore now)?
copied verbatim over from #lore-spoilers (re: ||Tumeken being created by Jas|| HEAVY SPOILER)
violet yarrow
how many of the quest locations were chosen because they had a big enough pool to fit crondis
rustic latch
How do you pronounce Pollnivneach
spark lichen
For how long have you known what Tumeken’s origins would be?
rustic latch
What is the intention with leaving the door open for future continuation of the storyline?
leaden belfry
If it was revealed in 2008 that Sumona was Amascut, why is Nathifa suddenly Amascut too ?
Or is Sumona just using Nathifa as a disguise ?
rustic latch
If ||Icthlarin can be brought back from death, what does that indicate for other gods?||
fiery silo
|| Why is Amascut still acting as a slayer master for us disguised as Sumona? Should she be replaced with someone else? ||
fiery silo
In previous appearances/disguises, Amascut has had red hair. Why is her fur black now?
unique spear
Tumeken mentions fighting a cousin. During the day of those fragments he was at war with the zarosian empire. Is he referring to zaros as a cousin?
Also if just a fragment of him is capable of freezing time and selectively choosing who to freeze and unfreeze is it safe to say Tumeken is a being far more divine in nature than armadyl, saradomin, and zamorak?
If he was referring to zaros as a cousin does that mean he's kin to elder gods also? His body resembled jas too.
Lastly, would it be safe to say Tumeken is absolutely more divine in godhood than armadyl, zamorak, or saradomin are
meager fog
I believe when the Desert series getting picked up again was announced, it was mentioned changes to how the soul altar runecrafting worked would be a reward for the final, am I misremembering or was this cut/delayed/moved?
So now that ||Tumeken has been implied to have been created by Jas similar to Seren and Zaros by Mah||, are we likely (or are there any plans) for that to be clarified/confirmed? It seems like with ||Tumeken and Jas both dead|| there isn't an obvious route for that to be explored further.
cloud gate
Any plans for updating Sumona’s dialogue?
What was the hardest part about creating the quest?
Any interesting or funny bugs you encountered you can share?
Why didn’t you want to let us take Apmeken and Het on a walk around the world? Adresteia and Zemo got to go on world spanning dates with us, seems unfair they couldn’t.
Walk us through the reward process, how did you decide on them? Being able to any emote to give an exp boost is probably my favorite just because I didn’t know RS had the tech to let emotes do stuff like that.
Speaking of rewards the divine light aura you used for Tumeken’s blessing and also to indicate the flowers is really cool, any chance we could get that as loot beam because it be perfect as one.
How long were you planning to kill ||Icthlarin?||
We know the story created now isn’t necessarily the one that was planned in 2017, can you share with us some of the changes that it went through and your thoughts behind why you chose the directions you did?
Any plans to go back and updates some of the old desert quests with the new models?
Can we see the pantheon in future stories or do you think this is sort of the end of their narrative? Monkey’s haven’t had a real follow up on their story in awhile, maybe we could revive that storyline with Apmeken?
Can you explain the nature of the metaphysical tomb? ||It was glossed over a bit and the sarcophagus raises a few questions like is that actually a thing or just some representation of him being dead? Would this tomb look the same for everyone or is it tied in particular to the mind?||
Did we actually fight Amascut or was that like all in our mutual heads? The text called it her “vision” so I’m wondering if it is kind of like the Zaros’s mind space?
The absence of the slayer masters felt a tad odd given everything, any chance we could get some post-quest activity/dialogue for at least Catalox who has been imprisoned for far too long.
I’m still a little unclear on how the soul altar fits in, ||why was Tumeken’s essence in it?||
Amascut’s comment towards necromancy and Icthlarin was interesting, were you implying Icthlarin used to actually be a user of necromancy and something changed after the fact to make him hate it?
Was there always the plan to link the finale back into fort storyline? It was an exciting but kind of surprise to see Moia’s story re-visited so soon if even for only a second.
upbeat walrus
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Will there be any way to beat Amascut solo?
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Will it technically be possible to complete all enrage achievements by just joining team that already pushed to 4k?
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BTW... Can we get not doable achievements removed from the game?
uneven swift
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Miasma keeps being brought up in various ways. In the way, way old lore, when we had miasmic ancient magic spells, the enigmatic Zuriel was mentioned as a premier user of them. Any odds of old Zuriel becoming relevant in some manner, and us gaining more insight into who he was/how he learned to cast miasmic magics?
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Any plans on adding miasma spells back into the game?
sweet ice
Why was Seren able to reform after she was fragmented and Tumeken was not? If he’s implied to the be son of Jas who was the most powerful elder god why was he never able to return as Seren ?
Is the door closed on Tumeken now or is there a possibility he could be reborn and reunite with Elidinis as he deserved?
Why was Tumeken never fleshed out and explored like the other gods were. Like his ascension, origins, life before Elidinis and what he is capable of?
Can we see him again ever in a corporal form and also why did we never see him in the green headed falcon form as depicted in the Archaeology painting?
dry kite
The question is: When do we revisit the shocking revelation in the quest (Erebus and Xau-Tak)? Is it going to be part of the narrative for the next two years or will it be a question that will be answered in 2 years once the next narrative concludes?
slender charm
Is it intentional that the last puzzle in the ||Tomb of Tumeken|| can be solved before removing the Plinth - Blocking?
In regards to Miasma, will we get a Miasma themed Necromancy ability to match the [[Ice Asylum]], [[Blood Tendrils]], [[Smoke Tendrils]], and [[Shadow Tendrils]] [[Codex Ultimatus]] abilities (to match all five of the Zarosian [[funerary urns]])?
uncut trail
God domains will be explored as a concept in future? Think it somthing similar like Jujutsu Kaisen domain expansion. Manifestation of gods innate domain. Tumaken, Elidinis, Icthlarin, Amascut, Crondis, Het etc god domains.
naive swift
- How was Tumeken born? From the egg, created, dreamed into existence, some other way?
- Did Tumeken ||actually die in the quest, spending the rest of his energy, or was he yeeted out of Gielinor?||
hoary plume
Any info on how the council of cat priests is dealing with the aftermath?
hoary plume
- Did Amascut siphon energy from the crater south of Sophanem? Seems unlikely that she wouldn't use such a readily accessible source of power
- Het using the khopesh of Elidinis / Tumeken was a nice touch, are they intended to be unique, or were the more of a prestigious armament handed out to specific individuals?
hoary plume
- While mortal, did Amascut prefer fish or bird, and did that change post ascension?
hoary plume
- What will happen to the avatar of Amascut?
- Are the lesser demons summoned by Eruni & Kikazaru special in some way or mercenaries in a sense?
- lorewise, will corruption linger in the Sophanem slayer dungeon, or has that been cleansed / will that clear out over time?
uncut trail
Graphically updated Strykewyrm and Scabarites will be worked on or its canceled?
hoary plume
- Did Apmeken start training after do no evil to improve her combat? Considering she was specifically called 'not a fighter', i'd expect having her senses stolen, might have granted perspective?
meager fog
How long has it been known what Tumeken's origins are? Was it something decided for the Desert storyline being picked back up or is it an older point that finally got hinted at?
Are the "god cakes" still cannon? On a stream years ago we were told the order in which the gods came to Gielinor in which Tumeken sat around the middle, is this still "canon" with the now known origin of Tumeken?
devout sparrow
Since Apmeken is a Goddess of the Apes, is she also aware of Xau-Tak like Itchlarin? since Tezcasathla (Xau-Tak) is a god worshipped by her fellow home world inhabitants, the Mwanu.
hoary plume
- Did apmeken and Maribo ever party together?
night quartz
Do you have any plans for Tumeken's origin story at this time? Want to know how that course of events came about for sure.
Do you enjoy doing a more cohesive story where events in recent quests are likely to be relevant rather than older quests where things events from one quest impacting the other felt a bit more scattershot?
Was Tumeken right to fear Zaros hunting down Amascut and Icthlarin for their connection to Jas? And why?
spark lichen
What's up with that soul beacon stuff??? (whatever you can say, or you can just laugh at us)
night quartz
The nega-soul beacon (give it a name already) seems pretty important to future events, might it feature in Havenhythe?
devout sparrow
If Tumeken was powerful enough to defy the edicts in his partial form at the end of the quest, does that mean he was stronger than Zaros or Guthix before he split his power among his children?
mild crystal
For how long was it known how the Desert story would end? Do some of the plot points from this quest date back to the narrative being set up in the early 2010s or the 2017 Menaphos quests, or has it mostly been concepted recently with the other 'return to the Desert' stuff?
hoary plume
- Did Oreb base his soul obelisks on those used by Amascut / Elidinis?
- Are the obelisks that spawn in Menaphos controlled by Oreb or Amascut?
- with Tumeken's essence spread through the Kharidian desert, is the desert phoenix related to him in some sense, or is it a standalone animal / part of the Phoenix from Piscatoris?
spark lichen
How has this iteration of working on a quest alongside non-quest content gone? Anything learned for when building out Havenhythe content and quests?
slender charm
Has Zaros or Seren realised that Tumeken ||is their cousin||?
slender charm
In previous appearances/disguises, Amascut has had red hair. Why is her fur blac...
Probably ||Erebus|| related.
unkempt scaffold
Amascut said her father's name and shadow were "lost long ago" is it possible that Zaros stole those pieces or Sliske used them to interface with Jas in the lead up to Endgame?
wispy wigeon
If not friend, why friend shaped?
night quartz
I believe that is called Aggressive mimicry