shut jackal
Hey everyone! If you saw the last stream we did this week, you would know we are preparing a Combat Data Livestream! Mod Pigeon and Rhubarbs will joining myself and The RSGuy to go over what we've been able to accomplish since the last data stream 5 years go!
We already have an idea of what we want to gather going off the last stream but we'd love to know if there's anything specific you'd like numbers off. Let us know in the comments below 🙂
sweet haven
I'd like to know what percentage of people use revo, ++ and full manual
and how much activity each boss gets
lone totem
I want to know how many new players put perks on their weapons?
thorn veldt
Who has the most pets total in the game. (Boss, skill, follower, companion, basically all the PETS!)
livid gorge
Id like to know how many times I specifically died to the game dc'ing
lone totem
On the f2p side, how often does KBD get killed?
turbid rock
jay im not sure thats possible ..
waxen heart
Need to know the number of players who have completed each specific combat achievement for example " 5000 players completed the durzag solo".
Prettttty please!!!!
ancient anchor
I'd like a ranking of bosses killed (most/least popular), ideally with KCs if possible 😄
quiet dust
Reckon a funny/interesting statistic would be looking at the bosses with the highest and lowest player kill:death ratios
waxen heart
When is the liveatream BTW? Would love to know if my request gets heard 😊😊
quiet linden
I want to know how many times players have died to each boss and put them in rank order.
knotty fable
more real numbers not like last time posting without them
warm isle
Honestly, i'd like to see the percentage of players who are able to do super fast boss kills, like the master and grandmaster timers as an example
feral sluice
If like to know the percentage of people using range, magic, melee, or necromancy. which combat style is most used.
knotty fable
Honestly, i'd like to see the percentage of players who are able to do super fas...
% means nothing need nummbers
turbid rock
is this even easy for jagex to make?
warm isle
Then i would like to see the number of players with master/grandmaster timers at bosses
tame rampart
Master is very doable you just have to learn the rotations
warm isle
Yeah but not everyone can follow a rotation, which is why i think it'll be interesting to see
gusty forum
Hiw many players completet each tier of combat masteries as i can only see mine
And how many players were activ and didnt complete any
lone totem
What has CA done to new players?
Do they start bossing earlier?
wanton bronze
number of players that actively have trim comp vs how many people have ever unlocked it
coral marlin
What are some takeaways of CA's?
Do you see group content being a blocker from people getting CA's and a group finder system would improve that? (Plug Mod Ryans gamejam project here)
Are you able to identify which players are doing "always be casting"?
zealous pumice
the boss which has ended the most HCIM players
coral marlin
Have you seen some of the recent retail wow changes to implement a revo++-like change to their combat system and is there anything you think you could adapt/implement from that?
warm gyro
I want to see the distribution of combat styles, preferably also including the level of the target or other way to show how intense the content being engaged with might be
lone totem
Have you seen some of the recent retail wow changes to implement a revo++-like c...
That's a good question.
halcyon root
Last skilling boss stream it was revealed that Croesus is the second most popular boss. Is that still the case?
waxen heart
Need to know the number of players who have completed each specific combat achie...
This!
Can we actually get name titles for these solo kills BTW like we do for solo vorago? Think that'd be epic and more encouraging
gaunt tree
Maybe which boss mechanic people unexpectedly die to (or surprisingly much)? For example, people dying to Vorago's phase transition
white imp
Can we get info on the zammy enrage change and what’s stopping you implementing
royal mirage
Just listing what comes to me, haven't read all the above:
warm isle
Maybe which boss mechanic people unexpectedly die to (or surprisingly much)? For...
Or the glacor's ice pillars -_-
primal hearth
How many shadowy egg drops in the last year (last 365 days) in ED3?
short ginkgo
I want to know the fastest giant mole kill time (hard mode); and highest kc
devout glade
How many shadowy egg drops in the last year (last 365 days) in ED3?
This, plus other lottery ticket items like lucky dragonkin coin and abomination cape
coarse notch
I want to know the fastest giant mole kill time (hard mode); and highest kc
Its 4.2 seconds same for normal mode
bronze hull
Would like to know how many players 'camp' a certain style at bosses!
Not overall damage dealt with a style cause afking for clues/ achievements would favor necro and magic
mighty dove
How many pineapples are in the game and person with the most
royal mirage
How many pineapples are in the game and person with the most
Do you happen to have a stack of 2147m pineapples...
indigo crown
How many cabbages sold/bought would it take to crash the rs economy?
drowsy sphinx
Specific style breakdown! Ie for a suite of bosses like hm nakatra, zamorak, and yakamaru (or more, tho we don't really need Rasial or pthentraken), what is the exact percentages of kills that involve X style? Ie: 70% necro, 10% each combat triangle style, as a made up number.
safe needle
I would love to see data on what type of healing items are used during boss fights: solid foods vs. non-solid foods vs. healing potions
fierce minnow
average kill times for bosses would be cool
rough hare
I'd love to see the number of people who have done all the combat achievements that give secondary rewards (like titles and pets) exp. 4k's, telos golem pet, etc.
I'd also love to see what the highest kc is for each boss in game.
quiet quail
What are the most picked rotations at Vorago, Araxxi and Barrows: Rise of the Six since you can choose it now?
What are the most picked reaper tasks since that can be chosen as well now?
scenic latch
What are the most picked rotations at Vorago, Araxxi and Barrows: Rise of the Si...
I can tell you the most picked rotation at Vorago is Scopulus 100%
Scops due to easiness, Ceilings due to speed, rest only achievement based. I do a lot of Vorago with a lot of people.
soft verge
spice tusk
An interface between you and your friends to compare boss kills, logs and kill speed
stable wing
I want to see some of the slowest boss kills on record
regal imp
Do people actually use melee at high level bosses
finite elbow
Do people actually use melee at high level bosses
Yes
regal imp
No I mean like, statistically
I phrased it in a funny way but I'm genuinely curious how much the % of melee users is at hm sanctum, high enrage zamorak or idk
cyan laurel
Does this (finally) includes updated list of bosses killed by players and how many players got the pet, and player with most kills in x boss?
🙂
left quest
I'd love to see a list of the (maybe top 10) bosses that have killed hardcore irons / took hardcore iron lives 🙂
shut jackal
These are all awesome far everyone! Thank you! Mod Rhubarbs will be going through and taking notes 😄
cerulean bone
These are all awesome far everyone! Thank you! Mod Rhubarbs will be going throug...
and maybe a little tease for Mod Pigeon's next piece of content with the EZK/FSOA/Masterwork Weapon changes at the end of the month 👀
coral marlin
^^^ I've honestly held back from asking about Mod Pigeons work about fosa passive, et al. But yeah, chomping at the bit for info.
strong matrix
I'd quite like to see some data on drop rates if its possible: what's the driest someone has gone on a drop, biggest spoons, are there any outliers in terms of which logs take the longest to complete etc.
Bonus question: Is there anything that stands out from drop rate/boss log data that could potentially inform the design or implementation of universal BLM for bossing as has been discussed on prior livestreams?
last plover
and maybe a little tease for Mod Pigeon's next piece of content with the EZK/FSO...
With the big silence on ezk/fsoa/masterwork update im thinking its shelved :/
nimble panther
Number of CGIM/GIM deaths (perhaps separately if its remarkably different) on each day of the first week of GIM release, and which NPC was responsible for most CGIM/GIM deaths
magic heart
how many people have which completed boss log crossed with account type, would loce to know the hcim stats
proud elm
kinda surprised no one's asked for the "objective" difficulty indicators as cool things to know
ivory bridge
Number of people who have completed all the different enrage milestones: 500, 1k, 2k, 4k for AG Telos & solo Zammy
warm acorn
Fsoa, ezk and masterwork passives pls 🙂
sweet haven
Number of people who have completed all the different enrage milestones: 500, 1k...
There's a highscores for zamorak solo
when i looked 1 or 2 days ago it was something like 280 at 4k and 560 at 2k
devout ermine
What percentage of players use at least 1 t95 weapon in combat as opposed to players using lower levelled gear (ideally lower than 90)
analog sail
How many uses of enhanced excalibur active per day/per hour
meager solstice
How many days until the update to remove Kalphite King
rough light
I want to know the fastest giant mole kill time (hard mode); and highest kc
Highest KC belongs to The Waterboy (over 32k rn) you can see his posts on Reddit or join him in his HM Mole masses pretty much every day at reset on W88 in the Boss Guild fc
pale shore
How many days until the update to remove Kalphite King
thistbh
lusty robin
With the big silence on ezk/fsoa/masterwork update im thinking its shelved :/
Definitely not shelved (Just finished working on it today) - will have a poke on Monday as I'm finishing up soon to see if we can get some teasers out during the week
ivory bridge
Definitely not shelved (Just finished working on it today) - will have a poke on...
Absolutely 100% love to hear this ❤️ Probably one of the updates I and many people are most excited about. Thank you for the updates sir
native jetty
what's the most used melee rotation and/or what's one of the best melee rotation for dps burst damage
cerulean bone
Definitely not shelved (Just finished working on it today) - will have a poke on...
We would love some teasers!
coral marlin
Definitely not shelved (Just finished working on it today) - will have a poke on...
Best news I've heard all month
untold palm
Definitely not shelved (Just finished working on it today) - will have a poke on...
So its still due by end of the month or is it delayed? Looking forward to some teasers!
feral ivy
How many people have each slayer log? How many have Ultimate Slayer?
wise oracle
How many people still have their Lost grove mushrooms? https://runescape.wiki/w/Lost_grove_mushrooms
Also, how many people have 0 solak kills, 1 solak kills or more then 1 solak kills
wise oracle
Last skilling boss stream it was revealed that Croesus is the second most popula...
And if so, how many different players are actually engaging?
sweet haven
I'd like more detailed information on the croesus thing, like is it that high because of massing, is it kills or players interacting with, since the latter benefits from being a group boss
etc
tropic crater
Updated data for boss pet totals (April 2017 data makes me sad)
Data for most amount of a boss pet drop (how many times has one person received a specific boss pet)
Most and least completed achievements in each tier for Combat Mastery
Data on how many kills in a given timeframe for ROTS, Arraxor, and Rago from before rotation selection and after
Ranking the bosses by engagement
Any data on Abomination and Memory of Nomad like how many kills on an average day, how many unique players attempt each day
Most commonly killed monsters by combat style
stable ermine
wise oracle
How many times did I die in total in this game 😂 ?
Max amount of deaths from a person who died in shattered worlds?
(heres mine)
proud elm
Most deadly mechanic on a per boss basis if that's something you've got data on would be cool
-# (I appreciate that everyone else is after drops, KC etc. and I'm just here asking for info on death)
marble pine
would be interested to see first player/players to complete specific master/gm combat achievements
plucky thunder
^
drowsy sphinx
presumably it'd just be a who's who of the top end scene, geherman (first full master/GM) taking a large amount
graceful pecan
How many people have the reaper's crew achievement?
plucky thunder
Not really since people prioritised different bosses when CAs dropped
last plover
Definitely not shelved (Just finished working on it today) - will have a poke on...
Best info of the year
wanton bronze
Would be good to hear about the wealth brackets again. At one point there was a poll on twitch and I think it showed like 1% of players have 1B+
halcyon root
I wonder if Mod Pigeon plays League like the other combat devs do
plain glen
Will there be a build in dps tracker?
untold palm
Would be great to see a top 10 boss kc for each boss. Also boss kc highscores when ? 😄
indigo crown
I still want to know how many cabbages bought/sold would break the rs economy 🤣
jaunty frost
I'd like to see a ranking of bosses engaged with based on instance time instead of kills for the year. To have a better understanding of what is popular.
earnest tusk
-Top 5 Most Popular Bosses
-Top 5 Least Popular Bosses
-How many players have the Regular, Bronze, Silver, and Gold titles for Arch Glacor, Telos, and Zamorak
-Top 10 highest Araxxi kill counts WITHOUT the base pet drop yet
-Fastest Hardmode Nakatra kill time and the slowest
mighty dove
Thieving pets aquired just before dwarf nerf 😂
sly agate
Thieving pets aquired just before dwarf nerf 😂
Hey that's me!
stray phoenix
I’d love to see distribution of people using each combat style. Like amount of time in % between necro melee range and mage
icy rain
I'm interested in seeing the least completed and most completed achievement in each combat mastery tier
lusty robin
I wonder if Mod Pigeon plays League like the other combat devs do
Not a league player, but I do play Teamfight Tactics
halcyon root
Seems like a cool game too
last plover
Not a league player, but I do play Teamfight Tactics
Hi are we getting some infos about what ezk / fsoa effect is in this week blog or this info will be revealed tuesday ? 😁
wise oracle
I'd like to know the data around free death weeks for the economy.
I myself like to think it has a positive impact, as there are more supplies used, think of food, potions, bombs, runes, arrows, charges.
More unique drops into the game = lowering their value and making them accessible for everyone (debatable)
More participation in pvm, encouraging for learners
bronze hull
Hi are we getting some infos about what ezk / fsoa effect is in this week blog o...
Baited by the RCE 110 craft :d
cerulean bone
Baited by the RCE 110 craft :d
Article being written today and hopefully out later this week according to Azanna on Reddit.
waxen heart
Aod and bm solo titles.
Zammy unortho title.
Pet kc when you got it as a drop and kc currently.
wraith quiver
How does the Necromancy basic attack work? From what I understand it has 0 second cooldown, but it incurs a 1.8 second global cooldown because the Deathguard and Lantern are 1.8s weapon speed. Is this accurate or is the attack hard coded? If not, would a Necromancy weapon with a slower attack speed have a longer internal cooldown?
sonic girder
Anything that gives insight into the size of the "pvm community" especially things that may be unexpected
It was already revealed that 5% of active players have the hybrid zuk cape, so more things like that?
How many people have each tier of War's Blessing, especially t4
Popularity of weapons, like how many own t95s/90s/x
Also insight into how this data drives their decision-making, like how it affected their thoughts going into Amascut or Necromancy
sterile ledge
hi, mate is wondering about most telos kc and most 200 ks
sweet haven
The revolution vs manual data was specifically for players who are killing bosses, what was the split among the general playerbase?
drowsy sphinx
Appreciate the stream, enjoyed a ton of this data. Some mind blowing facts like vorkath getting more kills than Zemouregal - I was sure it was the oppsite!
frosty pumice
@shut jackal why cant we not use ezk and leng together ? They are both lock behind a passive that is good when the item is camp.
Why can ecb and bolg work together if those item don t
drowsy sphinx
Interesting stat to see in a future data stream, if there's any notes being taken for a next time: Full Manual vs Revolution usage breakdown by style. Possibly even broken down by boss like the stats in this stream were. Example (madeup numbers because I don't have the data): Ranged at bosses: 69% revo, 30% manual, 1% legacy. Ranged at HM Nakatra: 85% Manual, 15% revo. And similar stats for the other styles ofc!
cosmic hawk
I put in a year to learning pvm, and a month into zammy alone just to push near 300% enrage. Respectively I feel like nerfing zammy would be saying my time is worth less to you. He is not a boss you can just start the game and go to. This takes a very long time to get to the level to do zammy.
A nerf there would harm my pvm progress by allot and the want to pvm. By the time I learn these other harder bosses will they be nerfed majorly as well. Kinda might as well just afk swing my pick axe and watch TV or something.
rough hare
I put in a year to learning pvm, and a month into zammy alone just to push near ...
I think you need to remember that while it sucks to have things nerfed, zammy is a clear outlier in the amount of commons you get, it's bringing in way too much into the game and never should have been doing that. Yes nerfing it late feels bad, but it needs it to be done, better late than never as they say. Also, hopefully by the time they nerf it you'll manage to get to 500% and you'll have the increase in bow piece drop rate. For some context, some players are bringing in 180m/h in commons alone from zammy at the top end, that's insane. Even pulling 50m/h which is very doable with a simple necro setup, is way more than should be possible in commons.
halcyon root
It's not very impactful on the economy because not a lot of people are skilled enough to do it
rough hare
It's not very impactful on the economy because not a lot of people are skilled e...
I mean having zammy by itself bring in more raw gp into the game than almost anything else (sitting 3rd overall on the chart they shared) even beating out both loot bags and raw cash prises from TH combined seems like a pretty big impact on the economy lol
halcyon root
I wonder what enrage that is from. Could be from low level just like afk Glacor
regal imp
The problem with zamorak is that loot scales super hard
At 500% you're getting almost double the commons of 100%
Over 4x common loot from 100% at 2000%
Good players are also getting better kph
Loot is basically supercharged
Add to that that you're doing a ton of zammy kills if you're grinding enrage
It's a congregation of
halcyon root
It's still relevant that a lot of people don't do it and combat data had some interesting showings. More people have done 0%-100% compared to 100%-500%, so it's not too popular
rough hare
I wonder what enrage that is from. Could be from low level just like afk Glacor
This is a good point
halcyon root
I think one of the points of the update is so that low levels aren't just handed ultra big loot, which I'm not sure how much high enrage Zammy affects
My biggest concern people being encouraged to do Vorkath and Rasial even more after this update. Not ideal meta bosses
regal imp
Hey rasial is also getting nerfed
rough hare
My biggest concern people being encouraged to do Vorkath and Rasial even more af...
Rasial was strictly a nerf, but yeah voki needs changes, just a loot buff isn't helping a poorly designed boss, pushing people to that probably isn't great
regal imp
I feel like vorkath is only so profitable because it's unpopular
halcyon root
Rasial might get a nerf with the new Necro weapons I suppose, so the gear isn't that expensive
cosmic hawk
I think you need to remember that while it sucks to have things nerfed, zammy is...
Your 100% correct some people. Iv been pouring my all into pvm for a year and I don't pull more then 40m a hour. 70% of the player base cannot even do zam much less push enrage. It's not fair you guys learned it early and cashed out. It's not my fault the loot is overwhelming don't punish me for the drop table not being fixed before all of you guys cashed out and moved on. I want thre opportunity to run zammy like you guys. If zammy is nerved I will NEVER run it again out of pure self respect. I poured to much energy into learning this just to be told my effort isn't worth as much as yours was a year ago.
Change the loot instead of taking from my gp a hour. Their changing loot to add starbloom, why nerf when you can just change the loot table and everyone wins.
I understand other bosses like glacor that's broken he's been needing a nerf. But a literal god that takes so so much time to learn and get good at then you still have to push enrage it's challenging content that is enjoyable and I would hate to lose my favorite boss
frosty pumice
Just remove afking boss
It s not normal people can afk glacor
And do 60 000 kill
cosmic hawk
Agreed charm farm needs to be gone lol.
rough hare
i mean it'll still be the best commons of any boss in game even after the nerf lol, and you have to realize if they replaced the alchables with other commons that were worth the same, they would just tank and the loot wwould be nerfed anyway, plus now those same commons that they added would be a nerf to anything else that dropped them or other skilling methods that gained them
rough hare
@cosmic hawk ^
devout ermine
Change the loot instead of taking from my gp a hour. Their changing loot to add...
genuinely impossible. Would affect the gp/hour regardless
and yes, it's unfair that some people were able to take advantage of the drop rates as long as they were, but does that mean it should just never be changed?
if something is unbalanced, balance it
it may be annoying, but it's not like zammy is suddenly going to lose all profitability
these kinds of nerfs are necessary - and long overdue - to keep the game healthy, else inflation will just keep running rampant
I get the frustration, but it's not like they've completely gutted all common loot
