Yeah the new bunny ears are whack compared to OG , but some like them
#Roadmap Check: May
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vestal flax
do you have any way to quantify this beyond anecdotally?
ivory holly
well the data is with jagex, the question u should be asking is why aren’t they releasing it after content creators called it out ? if proteans weren’t as broken and harmful, they would have just showed the data
u can legit estimate how many protean items are generated in the game,
and the estimate is 10,000,000 proteans per day, if there are 100k users logging on per day to use their daily keys ( 1 key for f2p and 2 keys for p2p)
not counting the keys from challenges or people buying more.
note: estimation from chatgbt
10mil proteans a day is what in exp? how many herbs,planks,raw fish,essence, wood, leather/gems, divine energy, smithing bars, hunting supplies and so on, is being effected daily by this ?
agile cairn
Fixing the xp problem caused by proteans is 15 years too late. Removing them won’t solve anything without other solutions like a prestige system or expanding the level or xp cap
But as it’s already been said that solving the common loot problem/inflation and the xp one you mentioned is not mutually exclusive
This fix is coming and is necessary
novel mirage
It isn't about what they do, it is about the principle of going against what was promised and the intention of what holiday drops were about. How does not dropping previous cosmetics impact people having fun? How is asking Jagex to keep to their promises and the spirit of what was originally intended with these drops toxic or gatekeeping?
shrewd quarry
Things change over time. The devs that made that promise 15 years ago sold the company and you can’t expect the devs nowadays keep a promise (that is gatekeeping in nature) that they never made
agile cairn
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The value of player retention and engagement matters more than old alleged promise
It is gatekeeping because you’re trying to prevent a change. It’s toxic because the logic behind it is to prevent others from having fun because of alleged “merit” to earn the item
Which these items were extremely meritless
And I would like to emphasize this is only for untradeable
novel mirage
How is it preventing others from having fun? Seems to me you are gaslighting here, plain and simple. When you are arguing against the idea that players "earned" these cosmetic rewards and should be the ones entitled to them, you say they are just pixels and dimish their value as well as the value of the content players had to do to get them. When you talk about how they should be available for everyone, suddenly not providing these pixels are preventing so many people from "having fun". I'll leave others to judge who is the toxic one here. I would also refrain from making personal attacks or judgements on people's character or intentions just because they disagree that you should have all the cosmetics in the game.
shrewd quarry
tbh it is you in this situation
lifeguarde has been respectful in their argument but you aren't really interested in actually having a conversation about the topic. you are mainly interested in shutting down anyone that disagrees with you. if your entire value is just showing off old cosmetics from 2 decades ago and making sure that others can't enjoy them, you should reevaluate things
novel mirage
Excuse me? I'm not the one accusing someone of gatekeeping and being toxic here. I have very clearly stated this is an issue with keeping with the spirit of how these items were intended when they were released. I am entitled to express my opinion on that without being accused of other ulterior motives. FYI I don't even have bunny ears or Scythe, doesn't mean I can't hold this opinon? I don't appreciate you making an assumption that my value is about showing these items off.
shrewd quarry
you are being accused of it because you are doing it
simple as that
if you are acting like a gatekeeper and being toxic about it
people will call you a gatekeeper and toxic
steady depot
fwiw I'm pretty sure the intent on release was 'let's have a fun event and give our players a silly reward' without thinking deeply about discontinuation as a consequence
shrewd quarry
mhm
steady depot
the issue at the time was tradeability
dusky marlin
Aren't they (slightly) different from the new bunny ears?
shrewd quarry
they are
agile cairn
They’re different. The obvious change is the higher resolution and its consistency with current graphics
They’re different from the pink bunny ear cosmetic
Which had a flop to them
rose blaze
Flop, you mean the TH one? That's not releveant to the discussion (it's an entirely dfferent one).